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Mr. DE LA GARZA. I yield to the gen- try’s service following his reserve mili- SAM JOHNSON of Dallas, standing tleman from New Mexico. tary service. right here, Mr. Speaker, said some in- Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, let Mr. Speaker, I thought that the U.S. credible words to me: I never did give me just say that selflessly the gen- Senate might move more swiftly on them what they wanted. tleman from Texas has talked about Friday last and that we might adjourn Then he said, you know, because this somebody else when in effect this may sine die on Friday, the 27th of Septem- is typical of his humility, all human be the last speech that truly one of the ber. Then there would have been no beings are different. He slapped me on giants in the Congress, the gentleman special orders. We would have gone out the back of my hand. He said, some from Texas, will be giving. sine die. My high school Latin tells me people you do that to them and they Mr. Speaker, I will ask unanimous that means done, no further legislative caved. We actually had two officers consent that the gentleman’s speech to action, House and Senate are gone, tra- who were full traitors who collaborated the Congressional Hispanic Caucus be ditional call from the White House to with the enemy their entire captivity part of the RECORD of this proceeding, the leader of the Senate, Mr. TRENT without ever having been tortured. And because what we have is truly one of LOTT, and the man second in line to the we had seven enlisted men. The officers the giants of the Congress in our midst, presidency after the vice presidency, were always held in Hanoi. The en- somebody who will be dearly missed, the Speaker of the U.S. House. But it listed men had survived the medieval not just for the Hispanic people of this did not happen. I thought I had done brutality of the camps in South Viet- country but for all Americans, the dis- the last special order on Thursday nam so they came to Hanoi already ut- tinguished chairman of the Committee night. Then on Friday night, since we terly demoralized from watching 20 or on Agriculture. did not go out sine die, I thought I had 30 of their friends shrivel up and die, This is truly a historic day in that he done the last special order on Friday and they collaborated horribly. comes to the floor to talk about the night. Saturday, we were in and out, All of them should have been court tragedy of Len Bias, a young man with recesses, and I did not get a chance to martialed, but the Secretary of the unlimited potential who succumbed to come to the floor with something that Army, Bo Callaway, said, and he was drugs. Yet he is probably giving the I did not have time for Thursday or very wrong on this, that Army people last speech of his career which is his- Friday that really was the most impor- do not have to recognize the authority toric in that he truly has been one of tant thing I wanted to say and the core of Air Force or Navy commanders in a the giants of this body. of how I wanted to personally close out prison camp. That is totally wrong. The SPEAKER pro tempore. (Mr. the 104th Congress, as I had closed out So he said, these Army enlisted men, WALKER). Is the gentleman propound- the 102d Congress in 1992, with three of getting orders from senior Air Force ing a unanimous-consent request? the most experienced military men in and Navy officers, they did not have to Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, I this Chamber, the only aerial ace from obey them. Once he did that, it put ask unanimous consent that the speech the Signal Corps in World War I, Army now Senator JOHN WARNER, who was of the gentleman from Texas, [Mr. DE Air Corps, Army Air Force, U.S. Air then Secretary of the Navy, in a box. LA GARZA], before the Congressional Force, U.S. Navy, the only ace to ever So he had to let this traitor naval com- Hispanic Caucus be made part of the serve in this House, DUKE CUNNINGHAM mander and this traitorous marine RECORD of this proceeding. came to this floor with me for over a lieutenant colonel go. I am merciful The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there week with DUNCAN HUNTER, Army para- that I do not mention their names. objection to the request of the gen- trooper, ranger from Vietnam, 2 corps They are burned in the front of my tleman from New Mexico? area, and, of course, the greatest hero brain. There was no objection. that we have serving at the current But from that range of collaborator Mr. DE LA GARZA. Mr. Speaker, I time in this House, SAM JOHNSON of traitor to psychological torture to a thank my distinguished colleague for Texas, savagely tortured in Hanoi, slap on the wrist, there were a handful, his kindness and generosity. Kept in solitary confinement longer like Congressman JOHNSON, who were Mr. Speaker, this is 32 years for me. than the United States was in World broken but never broken enough to I close speaking about the youngsters. War II. make them cooperate. They might If I have improved one youngster’s life, World War II was a 6-year war for our break them to bow, and some they my 32 years here would have been very Allies, nations like conquered France could not even break to do that. Three worthwhile, Mr. Speaker. and brave Great Britain hanging on, men they tortured to death, beat them to death over a long period because f desperately, before we were bombed at Pearl Harbor. Great Britain was vir- they would not bow. But SAM JOHNSON FURTHER MESSAGE FROM THE tually alone with exiled forces of other was one of the unique 11 that were put SENATE nations, Belgium, Netherlands and in a small, horrible little camp in A further message from the Senate their colonies, now gone their own way downtown Hanoi, tailored for them, by Ms. McDevitt, one of its clerks, an- around the world. Of course, free called Alcatraz wherever every cell was nounced that the Senate had passed Frenchmen that had made it through separated by a big space or another cell with an amendment in which the con- Dunkirk to England, but Britain was so they could only communicate by currence of the House is requested, a alone but for the United States. coughing or the sweep of a broom. One bill of the House of the following title: The war was less than 4 years in Eu- of the men was left behind there, Air H.R. 4194. An act to reauthorize alternative rope, 3 years and 5 months it took us to Force Captain Stewarts, Ron Stewarts. means of dispute resolution in the Federal drive Hitler to suicide, less than 3 His goodbye to his Nation, to his administrative process, and for other pur- years and 5 months. SAM JOHNSON of friends, and his family was, It has been poses. Dallas was in solitary confinement. an honor serving with you, God bless f The other day I said to him, right you. And he tapped that out with the here in this Chamber, he was standing sweep of a broom, and his remains were BILL CLINTON, SECURITY CLEAR- right here, I was leaning against this returned two decades later. ANCE AND COMMANDER IN desk. I said, SAM, with all the times Now, I tell that story to give the lis- CHIEF they broke you, did you ever go on the teners, the 1,300,000 listeners to C– The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under air in Hanoi, that is an expression for SPAN, the quality of SAM JOHNSON on the Speaker’s announced policy of May taking a torture-extracted propaganda this floor, with naval ace DUKE 12, 1995, the gentleman from California statement and running it on the radio, CUNNINGHAM, Army Officer DUNCAN [Mr. DORNAN] is recognized for 60 min- because I know some heroes, one of HUNTER, and this post Korean war Air utes as the designee of the majority them former squadron commander of Force fighter pilot. And for 4 days we leader. mine that was savagely tortured for tried to get a message out to the Na- Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, good months, finally broken, went on the air tion. And the message was simply that afternoon to my good friend. We are but you could tell the deliberate awk- Bill Clinton, I want to say this slowly certainly going to miss him here. What wardness of their statements, that and deliberately and I defy someone to a great 20 years he brought to his coun- they were beaten into this. contradict me, Bill Clinton could never H12184 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 30, 1996 have gotten the security clearance to money, organizing demonstrations the undergraduate. It was a brand new serve in the U.S. Army, my father’s against his country in a foreign land. program initiated in 1969, and he only service, in the U.S. service, the service That immediately disqualifies him had to do 2 years ROTC and 1 summer of five Presidents in my lifetime, the from any security clearance. A foot- camp instead of what I was doing in U.S. Air Force, the service of Ronald note, one of my pals in pilot training, college, 4 years and 2 summer camps. Reagan when it was the Army Air class 55-H, great pilot, good guy, his So he writes to Yale on December 2, Force. He could never have been ac- parents were born in the Ukraine. They 1969, with all the political letters, Ful- cepted into the FBI, the CIA. He could came to him after he was through pilot bright, Gov. Winthrop Rockefeller, all never have been a Secret Service offi- training. He had finished everything. that political mentioning that helped cer, the ones who will throw their bod- He had waited 7 months, as I had, as a him beat his induction showup date of ies in front of him to catch a bullet. He precadet enlisted man because after July 28, 1969. would never have been accepted in the the Korean war, different country, But he writes to Yale on the 2d, Customs department. He would never there were so many people lined up to draws that lottery number, 319, on the have been accepted in any solitary U.S. fly F–86 Saber jets or Thunderjets or 1st, and writes them the 2d, and then Marine Corps, given in any service that bombers or serve in our Air Force. I he has got this little bit of business to requires a security clearance. had to wait 7 months to start pilot clear up to keep Colonel Holmes How did he get to be Commander in training, after I had passed my test. tamped down and to let him know how Chief over all of these men, of them b 1500 he really euchred him and pulled the putting their lives down for him? Why wool over his eyes. did the fathers of two Medal of Honor Started my test the day Stalin died, And he says—now Ted Koppel read winners, one just died 5 days before I my dad’s birthday, March 5, 1953. this to the Nation on Lincoln’s birth- went down to watch the commissioning So this young man waited all those day, February 12, 1969, with Clinton sit- of a ship named after his hero, Delta months, got through pilot training, ting there, giving him his total, own Force, Special Forces, master ser- graduated with me near the top of his ‘‘Nightline’’ show. He was plummeting geant’s son, Gary Gordon, why did class. We are all waiting around buying in New Hampshire. He had dropped to Gary Gordon’s father refuse to shake our rings, and I remember going to the third in the polls. He only had 18 per- Clinton’s hand? Why did Herb Shughart book store for the headquarters build- cent. And Koppel gives him his own say to him, you are not fit to be the ing at Bryan Air Force Base, College ‘‘Nightline’’ show all by himself. Commander in Chief and, refused to Station, TX, and he was picking up his Why would he do that? Because Char- shake his hand at the White House at ring, and he says, ‘‘Well, I am going to ter FOB, who is down at South Caro- the ceremony where the sons of these wear my ring, but I will never be an of- lina, at Hilton Head, at the Renais- two fathers were posthumously being ficer and I will never get my wings.’’ sance New Year’s Day intellectual awarded the Medal of Honor? Because Why? He says, ‘‘Because my parents gathering; Clinton, as President, has they sensed this. were born in the Ukraine. They are been there 4 years in a row, and of How did he get to be Commander in good people. They came over here. But course Rick—gosh, why would I forget Chief? You can get a top secret clear- the FBI cannot run a thorough back- his last name? It will come to me. The ance, even if your whole life is clouded ground check on them, so I am not producer of Ted Koppel’s ‘‘Nightline’’ by treachery, by getting elected to the going to be—and I was born in Amer- show for the first 14 years was now the U.S. Senate, the U.S. House, being cho- ica, but I am not going to get my wings executive producer of—no longer the sen Vice President on a ticket that or commission.’’ producer of ‘‘Nightline,’’ he was now wins or winning as the President of the I see his picture, and I was the editor the executive producer of Peter Jen- United States. Article II, section 2 of our graduation book, pilot training, nings’ ‘‘Evening News,’’ and he still is. says, simple words, 16 words: The Mr. Speaker. I look at his picture Rick Kaplan, K-A-P-L-A-N, calls up— President of the United States shall be there, and it says second lieutenant. I he is an adviser to Clinton, FOB, friend the Commander in Chief of the mili- will not use his name; maybe he did of Bill’s, and he calls up and leans on tary forces. There is a comma, and not want it known; maybe he worked it Koppel: Do this for Clinton, give him then it says, he is the commander in out years later; I do not know. this show. chief when the militia is called up, mi- But I think about that when I think So while Clinton is sitting there litia meaning what we now call the Na- of Clinton as Commander in Chief, with Koppel, does not do what he would do tional Guard or reserves. his background, organizing demonstra- to a Republican, to a Dole or a Reagan Now, a hero, a survivor of the Bataan tions, calling them the fall offensive, or a Bush; he reads the whole letter Death March tried to warn the Nation. and not realizing that the fall offensive and says it is a remarkable document, I have his letter in front of me. He title came out of Hanoi. and Clinton had to wince through a few wrote to the Nation. He is the recipient As a matter of fact, 4 years and 23 tough periods, but they spun it and of the medal next one down from the days later, guess what I found out this gave them the whole day to explain it Medal of Honor. If there had been more week, Mr. Speaker? That it was not away, the whole half-hour. eyewitnesses to his courage on Bataan Hanoi who named it the fall offensive, And then they went into overtime as and his bravery in the Japanese prison it was the Kremlin, the KGB. I find out though this candidate, running third in camps, he was in the camps about as in documents now that were classified, New Hampshire with 18 percent, in free long as SAM JOHNSON was in solitary they spent more money on the propa- fall, was Margaret Thatcher or Helmut confinement, 31⁄2 years, SAM JOHNSON, ganda war, of which Clinton was a part, Kohl or Bibi Netanyahu. It is unbeliev- of course, served 7. But he wrote a let- than they spent funding 98 percent of able. ter to the Nation on September 7, 1992, the war in Vietnam. Here is the way Clinton starts the 4 years and 23 days ago, and he warned So here first is a touch of Clinton’s letter: the Nation what would happen if Clin- letter, December 3, 1969, to Colonel We did this 4 years ago. America was ton was elected President of the United Holmes. He wrote a letter—he drew his not listening, CUNNINGHAM, HUNTER, States. I have his letter before me, and lottery number, 319, on the 1st of De- JOHNSON, and DORNAN. We did it, Tiger I am going to read it. cember. He wrote to Yale Law School flight. I will try again solo here. But I also have in front of me a letter on the 2d of December, that is all in The text of the letter Bill Clinton written years earlier, 1969, 23 years ear- the letter, kissing off being an army wrote to Col. Eugene Holmes, director lier, by Bill Clinton, supposedly at Ox- lawyer, a JAG, going through ROTC as of the ROTC program at the University ford but had not even signed into his a graduate in law school with the Uni- of Arkansas, December 3, 1969: dormitory, no record that he ever went versity of Arkanas, which he told Colo- I am sorry to be so long in writing. I to class the second year, but drawing nel Holmes he was going to do. That is know I promised to let you hear from the $700 a month, that would be about why he went back to Oxford. me at least once a month, and from $2,000 a month now from the Rhodes Supposedly he was to finish up being now on I will—he never wrote again— scholarship set up by the British Sir a Rhodes scholar, and come back, and but I have had some time to think Cecil Rhodes. He was drawing the then go through law school, go back to about his first letter—first letter, September 30, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H12185 never a second—almost daily since my lightly, but studied it carefully and there whether to attend law school or graduate return from England. I have thought was a time when not many people had more school and how to begin putting what I have about writing about what I want and information about Vietnam at hand than I learned to use. did. But the particulars of my personal life are ought to say—he is still in England; I have written and spoken and marched not nearly as important to me as the prin- that is inaccurate. against the war. One of the national organiz- ciples involved. After I signed the ROTC let- First I want to thank you not just for ers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close ter of intent, I began to wonder whether the saving me from the draft. Colonel friend of mine. After I left Arkansas last compromise I had made with myself was not Holmes feels that is a terrible line, and summer, I went to Washington to work in more objectionable than the draft would he will quote later why. He said there the national headquarters of the Morato- have been, because I had no interest in the are things you do not know. He says I rium, then to England to organize the Amer- ROTC program in itself and all I seemed to have written and spoken and marched icans here for demonstrations Oct. 15 and have done was protect myself from physical Nov. 16. harm. Also, I began to think I had deceived against the war in Vietnam. One of the Interlocked with the war is the draft issue you, not by lies—there were none—but by national organizers of the Vietnam which I had not begun to consider separately failing to tell you all the things I’m writing moratorium is a close friend of mine. until early 1968. For a law seminar at now. I doubt that I had the mental coherence That is now-prominent homosexual Georgetown I wrote a paper on the legal ar- to articulate then. David Mixner who was the one that guments for and against allowing the Selec- At that time, after we had made our agree- talked Clinton into his first dust-up in tive Service System, the classification of se- ment and you had sent my ID deferment to the press, trying to force homosexuals lective conscientious objection for those op- my draft board, the anguish and loss of my posed to participation in a particular war, self-regard really set in. I hardly slept for in the face of our Chairman of the not simply participation in war in any form. weeks and kept going by eating compulsively Joint Chiefs, Colin Powell, and all the From my work I came to believe that the and reading until exhaustion brought sleep. 4 CINCs who are now all retired, and draft system itself was illegitimate. No gov- Finally on Sept. 12, I stayed up all night the current CINCs I know personally, ernment really rooted in limited parliamen- writing a letter to the chairman of my draft and they all tell me that it is a fight tary democracy should have the power to board, saying basically what is in the preced- that is not going to go away if there is make its citizens fight and kill and die in a ing paragraph, thanking him for trying to a second term. war they may oppose, a war which even pos- help in a case where he really couldn’t, and sibly may be wrong, a war which in any case He goes on to say no government stating that I couldn’t do the ROTC after all does not involve immediately the peace and and would he please draft me as soon as pos- really rooted in limited parliamentary freedom of the nation. sible. democracy should have the power to The draft was justified in World War II be- I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it make its citizens fight and kill and die cause the life of the people collectively was on me every day until I got on the plane to in a war they oppose. at stake. Individuals had to fight if the na- return to England. I didn’t mail the letter Now how would that have worked in tion was to survive, for the lives of their because I didn’t see, in the end, how my World War II? countrymen and their way of life. Vietnam is going in the Army and maybe going to Viet- And he said a war which in any case no such case. Nor was Korea an example nam would achieve anything except a feeling where, in my opinion, certain military ac- does not involve the peace and freedom that I had punished myself and gotten what tion was justified, but the draft was not for I deserved. So I came back to England to try of the Nation—well, what peace and the reasons stated above. to make something of this second year of my freedom for the United States is in- Because of my opposition to the draft and Rhodes scholarship. volved in Bosnia? in Haiti? in Somalia? the war I am in great sympathy with those And that is where I am now, writing to you and in Iraq? American interests are not who are not willing to fight, kill and maybe because you have been good to me and have just to defend the continental States or die for their country (i.e. the particular pol- a right to know what I think and feel. I am Hawaii and Alaska, which, by the way, icy of a particular government) right or writing too in the hope that my telling this wrong. Two of my friends at Oxford are con- we do not defend from missile attack, one story will help you to understand more scientious objectors. I wrote a letter of rec- clearly how so many fine people have come single missile attack, 6 missiles. ommendation for one of them to his Mis- to find themselves still loving their country I am going to ask to put Clinton’s sissippi draft board, a letter which I am more but loathing the military to which you and whole letter in the RECORD, Mr. Speak- proud of than anything else I wrote at Oxford other good men have devoted years, lifetimes er, and then I am going to quote twice last year. One of my roommates is a draft re- of the best service you could give. To many more from it. May I do that? sister who is possibly under indictment and of us, it is no longer clear what is service and The letter referred to is as follows: may never be able to go home again. He is what is disservice or if it is clear the conclu- one of the bravest, best men I know. His sion is likely to be illegal. FOR THE RECORD—TEXT OF BILL CLINTON’S country needs men like him more than they Forgive the length of this letter. There was LETTER TO ROTC COLONEL know. That he is considered a criminal is an so much to say. There is still a lot to be said, The text of the letter Bill Clinton wrote to obscenity. but it can wait. Please say hello to Col. Col. Eugene Holmes, director of ROTC pro- The decision not to be a resister and the Jones for me. gram at the University of Arkansas, on Dec. related subsequent decisions were the most Merry Christmas. 3, 1969: difficult of my life. I decided to accept the Sincerely, I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know draft in spite of my beliefs for one reason to BILL CLINTON. I promised to let you hear from me at least maintain my political viability within the Then Clinton writes, I have no inter- once a month and from now on I will, but I system. For years I have worked to prepare est in the ROTC program in itself, and have had to have some time to think about myself for a political life characterized by this first letter. Almost daily since my re- both practical political ability and concern all I seem to have done was to protect turn from England I have thought about for rapid social progress. It is a life I still myself from physical harm. writing, about what I want and ought to say. feel compelled to try to lead. I do not think Yeah, amen, that is right. He called First, I want to thank you, not just for our system of government is by definition it right there. saving me from the draft, but for being so corrupt, however dangerous and inadequate Also, I began to think I have deceived kind and decent to me last summer when I it has been in recent years. (The society may you, not by lies; there were none. was as low as I have ever been. One thing be corrupt, but that is not the same thing, Wrong. But by failing to tell you all which made the bond we struck in good faith and if that is true, we are all finished any- the things I am writing now. I doubt somewhat palatable to me was my high re- way.) gard for you personally. In retrospect it When the draft came, despite political con- that I had the mental coherence to ar- seems that the admiration might not have victions, I was having a hard time facing the ticulate them then. When he was facing been mutual had you known a little more prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting the draft, when he had suppressed his about me, about my political beliefs and ac- against, and that is why I contacted you. induction day of July 28, 1969. tivities. At least you might have thought me ROTC was the one way left in which I could At that time, after we made our more fit for the draft than ROTC. possibly, but not positively, avoid both Viet- agreement, and you had sent my ID Let me try to explain. As you know, I nam and resistance. Going on with my edu- deferment to the draft board, the an- worked for two years in a very minor posi- cation, even coming back to England, played guish and loss of my self-regard really tion on the Senate Foreign Relations Com- no part in my decision to join ROTC. I am set in. I began eating compulsively and mittee. I did it for the experience and the back here and would have been at Arkansas salary but also for the opportunity, however law School because there is nothing else I reading until exhaustion brought sleep. small, of working every day against a war I can do. In fact, I would like to have been While the third high school guy, Mr. opposed and despised with a depth of feeling able to take a year out, perhaps to teach in Speaker, was in uniform, maybe in I had reserved solely for racism in America. a small college or work in some community Vietnam; only God knows then, maybe Before Vietnam, I did not take the matter action project and in the process to decide dying, maybe wounded, maybe a young H12186 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 30, 1996 married man who lost his wife to some- was still a lot to be said, but I can And most Hispanics, like most people one else while he was gone, given the wait. Please say hello to Colonel Jones of African-American heritage, have not mixed up country, the culture that we for me. learned yet that you have got to play had then and still do 30 years later Jones is the one who took the letter with both teams. Hispanics know it from those middle sixties. out of the ROTE file and kept it for better than African-Americans, but But he ate compulsively, and he says, two-and-a-half decades. Colonel Holmes with two great African-Americans I stayed up all night writing a letter to did not release this letter to the press. serving on the Republican side in the the chairman of my draft board. I have Colonel Jones did for his own reasons. House and J.C. WATTS with his elo- spoken to him on the phone, saying ba- Merry Christmas. Sincerely, Bill quent oratory, we are making inroads. sically what is in the preceding para- Clinton. But people know that a district that is graph, all the demonstrations that he So 23 years later, a colonel sets the 54 percent Hispanic is generally a slam led. record straight, Bataan Death March dunk Democrat district. Let me back up. Two of my friends at survivor, and only the Washington So the L.A. Times, no friend of con- Oxford are conscientious objectors. I Times in this city, about the seventh servatives or me, faced spiked. The wrote a letter of recommendation for circulation paper in America, and a Washington Post, of course, did not one of them to his Mississippi draft solid paper that really seeks the truth, want to hear this letter, and they are board, a letter which I am more proud they printed it. inside the beltway here. They did not of than anything else I wrote at Oxford But ABC, of course, after giving Clin- print this letter. last year. ton on Lincoln’s birthday his own per- So as I read it to America, Mr. He did not write anything at Oxford. sonal ‘‘Nightline’’ show, at Speaker, think of all these papers spik- He was one of three people in his class Stephanopoulos’ behest from the War ing this letter, and at the same time I of 32, never got his degree. And, by the Room, in the folded newspaper down a implore you to think, if they had a let- way, that person from Mississippi is block and a half away from the Excel- ter like this against Ronald Reagan in now a homosexual and a waiter in San sior Hotel, the Paula Corbin Jones 1980 or 1984 or a Navy attack carrier Francisco, did not want to be inter- hotel, Stephanopoulos and Carville pilot with 58 combat missions named viewed by anybody in 1992. called ABC and said, ‘‘Spike it.’’ George Bush in 1988 and 1992, if they One of my roommates is a draft re- For people who are not familiar with had it on him in 1992, they would have sister who is possibly under indictment print journalism, spiking a story is front paged it across the country. And and may never be able to go home when you stick a well written story by whatever the New York Times, the again. That is Frank Aller. one of your reporters on one of those L.A. Times, the Washington Post, and He was not his roommate; they were spindles in a newsroom; you spike it. the Wall Street Journal do, all the rest sleeping on the floor at Strobe Talbot’s Today they just erase it off the word of America’s newspapers do starting apartment at 43 Lekner Road near Ox- processor. It was spiked by ABC, of with number four, the Chicago Trib- ford. course. une, a colonel sets the record straight And Frank Aller came home. The I am going to slow down here now. September 7, 1992. FBI said, ‘‘We do not want you any And it was spiked by CBS. Would not b more; President Nixon is downgrading that have made Fred Friendly sick? 1515 the war.’’ And Aller committed suicide, And Edward R. Murrow? Memorandum for Record: Subject: and Clinton says Aller’s picture is on It was spiked by NBC; it was spiked Bill Clinton and the University of Ar- his wall of his bedroom upstairs on the by PBS. Of course, they get Federal kansas ROTC Program. ‘‘There have second floor of the White House. He money. And he was running ahead of been many unanswered questions as to says Aller is one of the bravest best Bush in the polls. It was spiked by even the circumstances surrounding Bill men I know. His country needs men the—well, the Wall Street Journal did Clinton’s involvement with the ROTC like him more than they know. That he not spike it. It never got to them in department at the University of Ar- is considered a criminal is an obscen- time. No; sorry. Jeff Bierbaum spiked kansas.’’ ity. it because he lost his exclusive with I will not stop again, Mr. Speaker, Well, is not it too bad that he killed the Holmes family. So he punished but I want America to know they are himself like another of Clinton’s them because they went to ABC with hearing the words of a Bataan Death friends named Vince Foster? Not a hero this letter, and ABC spiked it, and so March survivor. I spent 41⁄2 hours with in my book to throw yourself back in did he because he did not get it first, him on February 24 last year, where God’s face, committing the eighth and he could have had it exclusively. the son of the gentleman from Arkan- deadly sin of despair unless you have And the New York Times spiked it, and sas, JAY DICKEY, is going through law serious mental problems. That is a of course, my L.A. Times. school there at Fayetteville, at the tough call when you are riding high. I am running against the L.A. Times University of Arkansas law school. And Aller was an Oxford—although for the next 36 days. In my 9 races, you Colonel Holmes was born in Utah with he ditched classes, like Clinton, I re- had 10 because, remember, I had that his brother, Bob. I visited Bob’s grave peat, sleeping on the floor of the num- break in service, Mr. WALKER, so I got on the last day of last month, at the ber two man in the State Department, to finish out my 20 and see if I end up Cambridge Cemetery in England, bled Strobe Talbot, he was smarter. He as honorably as you did; as HERNY to death on his B–17 coming back from could not have gotten into Oxford, so HYDE always said, leaving this place a raid over Hitler’s fortress Europe. he had his whole life in front of him. with a little dignity instead of chang- This is a man who had the son of the And Vince Foster was a Catholic father ing the world. You changed the world gentleman from Arkansas [Mr. DICKEY] of three children, a beautiful wife, at more than a little. and myself with tears running down the top of his game. There better have But when I think about the L.A. our faces. He told us, about a lieuten- been serious mental problems here, or Times, my nine races with lightweight, ant, with his beautiful wife of 60 years he had a lot of explaining to do to flaky opponents, I have got another sitting there, a young lieutenant in Saint Peter, or the mystery deepens one. They build them up into oppo- nothing but a tattered pair of under- there. nents. That draws money to them. pants, smaller than an athletic sup- So here it is. Clinton signs off. To Then I have to raise money. porter, skinny, coming back working many of us, it is no longer clear what And several times I found myself in in the fields all day long, they had is service and what is disservice, or, if the fight for my life, 51 percent, 50.2, moved him down to a camp in it is clear, the conclusion is likely to but a couple of 57’s, 57 and one-half last Mindanao, or one of the other Phil- be illegal. He was thinking he was ille- year, and a 59. Always in the 50’s ippine Islands, or South Luzon, and he gal. though, because I represent a Demo- had a cigarette stuck in the side of this And this is the infamous letter where crat district, 50 percent Democrat; I little shriveled dirty bikini strap, and he says I wanted to keep my political think it has dropped to about 49 now; 39 they found the cigarette. And an ex- options open. Forgive the length of this percent Republican, and 54 percent His- tremely tall Japanese officer, over 6 letter, there was so much to say, there panic. feet, very unusual, says, raise your September 30, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H12187 hands, lieutenant. And he says, when Mr. Speaker, I must pause to remind one of his 2 last days, I am going to ac- your hands come down, you die. One people that Clinton was living at the cede to that. hour goes by, 2 hours go by, 3 hours go home of a war criminal named Robert However, I am entitled to tell every by, and his hands slowly start to come McNamara. Member of Congress and every Amer- down from exhaustion. And the Japa- ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE ican watching that this letter is in the nese officer takes out his namboo pis- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. RECORD 12 times, and some few other tol and shoots this West Pointer be- WALKER). The Chair must ask the gen- Members have put it in, over the last 4 tween the eyes. That is what Colonel tleman from California to suspend for a years, maybe more. I think a lot more. Holmes witnessed. moment at this point. I think I have put it in 15 myself. They Then he hold me about his two The Chair would remind all Members can write to their Congressman, and I friends, Larry and Spike. ‘‘Do not get that it is not in order to engage in per- am saying this, and please, Mr. Speak- on the prison ship. I have got a bad sonalities toward the President. Al- er, please do not write to my poor of- feeling.’’ They said, we have got to get though remarks in debate may include fice, I do not have any more staffers out of here, we will die here. They got criticism of the President’s official ac- than anybody else, write to your own on the prison ship. No Red Cross mark- tions, it is a breach of the order of the Congressman and write for today’s ings. They were bombed by American House to question the personal conduct CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, and ask your aircraft; swimming to the beach, our of the President, whether by actual ac- Congressman to call my office and find aircraft strafed them. Those that made cusation or by mere insinuation. out other dates this was in the RECORD, it to the beach, the Japanese took Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, this let- and then they can see it in its fulsome them off in the jungle and executed ter I have put in the CONGRESSIONAL detail. them. That is the end of Larry and RECORD maybe 12 times over the years. I will do what the CIA and the DIA Spike, real names. I have discussed with the parliamentar- has done to our POW and missing-in- But I remember Colonel Holmes tell- ians whether the term ‘‘draft dodger’’ action families, and that is drive them ing those stories. We spent 3 hours on is a pejorative term or whether it is a to mental pain with what is called re- his Bataan Death March and his cap- historical statement of fact, like drunk dacted documents; you know, where tivity. Anybody who fell to the side of driving, or any combination of words in they black out whole sections, so you the road to get a drink of water, bayo- crime. are left with a page, to whom and from netted in the back, run over delib- I will change this Distinguished Serv- whom, and it is about your son or your erately by trucks and tanks. One man’s ice Cross recipient and Bataan Death husband, lost in Laos, Cambodia, or body, you could not tell it was a Marcher’s words whenever I see the Vietnam. human being after all these Japanese Then you have to beg for years for word ‘‘dodger,’’ and I do not think it trucks had deliberately run over him. documents that are already being given appears in the letter again, I will He saw all of this. That is whose to the Russians in Moscow and their change it to ‘‘evasion,’’ or ‘‘avoid- words I am reading to my country that intelligence people to be debunked and ance,’’ which is less harsh on the ears, I love. I will see if I can go through this destroyed, not debunked, detruthed, or I guess. without interrupting myself again, Mr. given to Hanoi. We have been given se- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Speaker. Words of Colonel Holmes, Dis- cret documents to Hanoi for a decade Chair would remind the gentleman tinguished Service Cross, Silver Star, now that we would not even give to the from California that any allegations of Purple Hearts: parents. ‘‘Prior to this time, 1992, I have not evasion of the draft or such things do Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, will the felt the necessity for discussing the de- involve personality, regardless of the gentleman yield? tails of Clinton. The reason I have not origin of the allegation. Mr. DORNAN. I yield to the gen- done so before is that my poor physical Mr. DORNAN. Would the term ‘‘stu- tleman from New York. health, a consequence of participation dent deferment,’’ thousands of people, Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I just in the Bataan Death March, and the including leaders in both Chambers, want to say to my good friend the gen- have taken student deferments honor- subsequent 31⁄2 years of internment in tleman from California, BOB DORNAN, I Japanese prison camps, has precluded ably when it looked like the war was just have great respect for the gen- me from getting into what I felt was winding down. tleman. unnecessary involvement.’’ He told me I understand in the Second World Many, many years ago after this Con- he felt intense guilt at all of the Gov- War, people would spit out the term gress had passed a resolution saying ernor’s race. He said, ‘‘I have never ‘‘draft dodger,’’ but student deferment that there was nothing else that could been so relieved in my life as when or some other euphemism, for me to be done to bring back even not only Clinton lost the governorship in 1980. I get through this Bataan Death March live missing-in-action, but the re- thought, ‘I will never have to come for- survivor, I will accommodate the par- mains, you and I, I recall back in 1983 ward.’ ’’. liamentarians that far. But I will push or 1984, I was the chairman, if the gen- Then, with each subsequent Gov- it beyond that, and ask for a ruling of tleman remembers, on POW missing- ernor’s race, he said, I never dreamed the Chair and appeal the ruling of the in-action, and you and I and a number he would survive a primary system in Chair, if I cannot do honor to this man of others went to a place called Hanoi this country. Then when the letter who is suffering down in Arkansas and a place called Vietnam. came out, he could not believe he was right now. I recall you and I sitting across the surviving it. And Col. Clint Jones, his The SPEAKER pro tempore. The table from these Communists and beg- number two, released the letter, not Chair simply wishes to remind the gen- ging, almost on our hands and knees, it Col. Holmes. tleman that the rule of the House in- was so embarrassing to sit there and However, present polls, 1992, they volves the use of personalities in de- beg, to try to get somebody by the show there is an imminent danger to bate, that the gentleman is entitled to name of Hon Vick Son, remember him, our country of a draft dodger becoming criticize the President’s official actions he was a foreign minister, to release Commander in Chief of the Armed or his policies. But the Chair reminds the remains that were being Forces of the United States. While it is the gentleman that the breach of order warehoused right there in Hanoi. true, as Mr. Clinton has stated, that is to question the personal conduct of Mr. DORNAN. Blocks away. there were many others who avoided the President, whether it is an actual Mr. SOLOMON. It was such a serving their country in the Vietnam accusation or whether it is an insinu- humiliating experience for me. But ev- war, they are not aspiring to be the ation, engaging in personalities on the eryone should know that that was the President of the United States. The House floor with regard to the Presi- very beginning of getting back some of tremendous implications of the possi- dent or any Member of this body, is not those remains, and over a period of bility of his becoming Commander in within the rules. time, more than 200 have come back. It Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces compels Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, no one is through nobody’s effort but yours me now to comment on the facts con- has been more of an expert on the rules that we were able to get them back cerning Mr. Clinton’s evasion of the of the House than the gentleman in the here. I want to take off my hat to you, draft. Chair. Out of my respect for him on sir. H12188 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 30, 1996 Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, let me my country and my sense of duty to di- ROTC program. I was not saving him recall two things from this trip, to give vulge what actually happened and from serving his country, as he erro- the audience a flavor of how this is make it a matter of record. Bill Clin- neously thanked me for in the opening coming from deep in my heart. I do not ton came to see me in my home in 1969 of his letter from England dated De- want to come out as a blubbering baby, to discuss his desire to enroll in the cember 3, 1969. I was making it possible when I already admitted that Colonel ROTC program at the University of Ar- for what I thought was a Rhodes schol- Holmes made me cry at his dinner kansas.’’ ar to serve in the U.S. military as an table with myself and with the young I must stop again, Mr. Speaker. I officer. law student, the son of the gentleman asked Colonel Holmes February 24 last In retrospect I see that Mr. Clinton from Arkansas [Mr. DICKEY]. year at his home, at his dinner table, had no intention of following through But you recall, when we went to Ha- let me tell you what I would ask you as with his agreement to join the Army waii, to the central investigative lab- a hard-bitten newsman. How would you ROTC program at the University of Ar- oratory, where all the remains were remember this one student? He says, a kansas, or even to attend the Univer- identified, that we went into this room fair question, Congressman. In 10 or 12 sity of Arkansas law school. I had ex- that was almost like the nave of a years of working with ROTC programs plained to him the necessity of enroll- church, it was so quiet. And here on all in my final year of active duty, never ing at the University of Arkansas as a these white sheets set on tables like in all those 12 years, in California, in student in order to be eligible to take cots were the pieced-together remains, San Francisco, at USF, or at Arkansas the ROTC program with the under- like jigsaw puzzles, of our heroes, Ma- for 10 years, did any student ever come graduates. He never enrolled at the rines, Army-Navy pilots, Air Force of- to my home except Bill Clinton, 23- University of Arkansas, but instead en- ficers. year-old Bill Clinton. rolled at Yale University after going Mr. SOLOMON. I will never forget it. Then he called me at my Holiday Inn back to Oxford. Mr. DORNAN. Then they had a table room later that night, at 1:30 that I believe that he purposely—re- of ID cards, and you will recall, I morning. I said, oh, my God, Colonel, I dacted—me, using the possibility—and picked up one. My air officer number apologize for keeping you up. He said, the Colonel does not use obscene lan- changed later, they changed the letters well, you know, Irene, I said Alice ear- guage, obviously, this is a redaction be- in the front. It was 3038271. This is be- lier but his wife’s name was Irene, cause it is a tough verb involving fore they went to Social Security num- Irene told me we might have confused honor—he purposely—blanked—me, bers. you with something. I want you to used the possibility of joining the I picked up this card and I look at know, I never let him in my house. Is ROTC as a ply to work with the draft the Social Security number, I mean his that not interesting? He followed me board to delay his induction—actually Air Force number, and it says, regular from the backyard to the front yard for destroyed his induction—and get a new Air Force, 3038260, 11 numbers off mine. 2 hours while I did my gardening, im- draft classification which he got, 1–D. I look at the name and it is David Alli- ploring me to help him. The December 3 letter written to me son, F–105 pilot, good shoot, on the Interesting historical footnote. Most by Mr. Clinton, and subsequently taken ground, gave a radio call. His remains people in America are hearing that for from the files by Lt. Col. Clint Jones, had never come home. But there is his the first time. Because I have never my executive officer, was placed by me ID card. His military green service- told anybody that. I may have said it into those files so that a record would man’s card was there, the only other on the House floor once. be available in case the applicant redhead in my pilot training class, should ever again petition to enter into b 1530 lined up with me, getting his wings, Al- an ROTC program. The information in lison ahead of Dornan. Clinton came to see me in my home that letter alone would have restricted You remember, the tears went down in July 1969, just a few weeks before his Bill Clinton from ever qualifying to be my face, I said, JERRY, look at this. introduction show-up date, July 28, an officer in any branch of the U.S. This is one of my pals from 15 months 1969, to discuss his desire to enroll in military. of pilot training. Is this all his family the ROTC at the University of Arkan- The words of Jimmy Durante come is going to get now is an ID card, if, in sas. We engaged in an extensive, ap- to mind now: What a revolting develop- fact, they ever sent it to him? They proximately 2-hour interview. At no ment this is. had him a prisoner. We do not have his time during this long conversation Even more significant was his lack remains back, let alone any word of about his desire to join the program of—redacted—in purposely—redacted— what happened to him, and we know did he inform me of his involvement, the military by—redacting—me, both they took him prisoner. participation and actually organizing in concealing his antimilitary activi- Then I asked, can we all say a prayer protests against the United States’s in- ties overseas and his counterfeit inten- here? And it wa like we were in a volvement with our allies in Southeast tions for later military service. These church, praying for all these men. And Asia. He was shrewd enough to realize actions cause me to question both his some of them, all they had was one that had I been aware of his activities, patriotism and his integrity. tooth, trying to match it up with good he would not have been accepted into When I consider the caliber, the brav- military dental records. This has been the ROTC program as a potential offi- ery and the patriotism of the fine a tough, tough end to this Vietnam cer in the U.S. Army. young soldiers whose death I have wit- conflict. The next day I began receiving phone nessed and whose funerals I have at- Let me see if I can get through Colo- calls regarding Bill Clinton’s draft sta- tended—many in Arkansas he described nel Holmes’ letter, redacted. He says, tus. I was informed by the draft board to Tim Dickey and myself—when I re- The account would not have been im- that it was of interest to Senator flected on not only the willingness but perative, had Bill Clinton been com- Fullbright’s office that Bill Clinton, a the eagerness that so many displayed pletely, redacted, with the American Rhodes scholar, not going to class, in their earnest desire to defend and public concerning this matter. But as should be admitted to the ROTC pro- serve their country, it is untenable and Mr. Clinton replied on a news con- gram. I received many such calls. incomprehensible to me that a man ference this evening, September 5, 1992, He told me he received one from the who was not merely unwilling to serve after being asked another particular Governor’s office, Winthrop Rocke- his country but actually protested about his, blank, the draft, almost ev- feller, liberal Republican. against its military overseas should eryone concerned with these incidents The general message conveyed by the every be in the position of Commander are dead, Clinton said. I have no more draft board to me was that Senator in Chief of our Armed Forces. comments to make. They were not all Fullbright’s office was putting pressure I write this declaration not only for dead. I talked to some of them. on them and that they needed my help. the living but for future generations, ‘‘Since I may be the only person liv- The draft board needed this Bataan and for all those who fought and died ing,’’ he is not, ‘‘who can give a first- death march survivor’s help. for our country. If space and time per- hand account of what actually tran- I then made the necessary arrange- mitted, I would include the names of spired, I am obligated by my love for ments to enroll Mr. Clinton into the the ones I knew personally and fought September 30, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H12189 with—Bataan, the kids he sent to Viet- meet with us, so they rejected it. If much in 1944, and he disappeared into nam, those young second lieutenants— they had really had a reporter going the English Channel. and along with them I would mention for a Pulitzer prize and begged to go I looked at that name and thought, my brother Bob. see him, that would have been some- like me, like HUNTER, like JOHNSON, I repeat, I stood at Bob’s grave at thing. like DUKE CUNNINGHAM, when I was a Cambridge. My wife and I thought Now I think it is fitting that in these kid, I thought, if I am ever going to about Bob’s grave as Clinton walked last 2 days that this be in the CONGRES- run for President, I have got to put my right past it with Hillary on the 50th SIONAL RECORD, for the record, as we life on the line for my country. I do not anniversary, beginning the ceremonies say. send three high school kids in my over there on D–Day. On Victory in Eu- And I want to point out that after I place. I have got to do whatever is the rope Day, a few months later, Clinton left Bob Holmes’ grave, the American most dangerous thing to do. was in Moscow. AL GORE went to the Cemetery at Cambridge, which is not And I ended up doing it in peacetime Cambridge cemetery for our air crews. too far from Oxford, both kind of the and ejecting from jet aircraft twice, My brother Bob, who was killed dur- same angle of distance away from Lon- one time ended up 6 miles off the Pa- ing World War II and is buried in Cam- don, Cambridge is northeast, Oxford cific Coast, off Point Magu, no raft, no bridge, England. Bob was 23, the age northwest. I went up to the wall and Mae West, and God has a helicopter Bill Clinton was when he was over in looked at Joe Kennedy’s name on the come out, serendipity, looking at thou- England protesting against his coun- wall of the missing, thousands of men sands of square miles of Pacific Ocean, try. missing whose planes buried them- and sees that precise 2-inch white strip I have agonized over whether or not selves vertically into a forest some- down my helmet and says—two man to submit this statement to the Amer- where in Germany or France coming crew—says to this guy let out of the ican people, but I realize that even home, we still find them, lost in the service 2 weeks later for being over- though I served my country by being in Zuider Zee or out in the deep North weight—at least he had good eyes, but the military for over 32 years, and have Sea or anywhere in the English Chan- he would not jump in—he says, keep just gone through the ordeal of months nel, body washed out to the Atlantic. your eye on that whitecap, now it is of combat under the worst conditions I looked at Joe Kennedy’s name, the going away. And bingo, I am plucked followed by years of imprisonment by oldest son of the father, Joe Kennedy, out of the water, February 23, 15th an- the Japanese, it is not enough. of President John F. Kennedy. Two niversary of flag raising, Iwo Jimo. That is not enough service, Colonel boys were born third and fourth, two God says in 1960, no, DORNAN, you are Holmes says. girls ahead of them: Kathleen, who died at least going to have 36 more years. I am writing these comments to let in a plane crash, Rosemary who is still That was what I thought I had to do everyone know that I love my country alive in a home today. But Joe Ken- in peacetime to be worthy of ever more than I love my own personal se- nedy was the one they picked out to be thinking about being commander in curity and well-being. President in that family of politically chief, and ordering 19 great men to die Is he frightened, living in Arkansas? motivated people, and Joe thought in the alleys of Mogadishu and have Given all the stories we have read over that to be President, he had to do their bodies chopped apart and dragged the last 4 or 5 years, the Mena Airport something dangerous, something dif- through the streets, and all we get stories? ferent. back are torsos, burned at that. I am writing these comments to let— His brother had already had his back Mr. Speaker, where was Clinton when I read that—to let everyone know I broken and suffered with it has whole he sent the Delta Force and those he- really love my country. My personal life, when on his very first mission at roes and Rangers and the 160th Special security and well-being are not impor- night, without even knowing what hit Forces Aviation Regiment, the best tant. I will go to my grave loving these him, a Japanese destroyer cut him in helicopter pilots in the world. The United States of America and the lib- two. And he said to his friend, Lilly, training they go through, and inter- erty for which so many men have Lillian Thall, I will never run for any- views and interviews and flight checks, fought and died. thing. I guess it is up to my brother is more arduous than getting through Because of my poor physical condi- Joe, because I lost my ship on my first West Point, to join that 160th special tion—he is tall and handsome, he looks mission. ops, nighttime Delta Force helicopters like John Wayne, as a matter of fact, But he got the Navy Cross. Two of his up there at Fort Campbell. but he has had a very slight stroke, and 13 men were killed, but he rescued one, He sent those people in to die in the he is a handsome officer, he does not keeping him in his teeth, Kennedys are alleys of Mogadishu from a war crimi- want to go before the press with this all good swimmers, dragging one of his nal’s home on Martha’s Vineyard. Clin- slight tiny little stroke problem—this young enlisted men who was uncon- ton was staying at Robert Strange will be my final statement. Except for scious to Kilimbangara Island, off McNamara’s home, and on a pay phone his 4 hours with me. I will make no fur- Rendova in the west side of the Solo- at a golf course, he said send in that ther comments to any of the media mons. Delta Force, whatever it is, and in they regardinng this issue. And Joe Kennedy said, well, Jack has went, Operation Ranger, and a few So he made his beautiful daughter, been wounded, has a Navy Cross. I have weeks later the fathers of the two who came over that night February 24, got to do something for my country. So Medal of Honor winners refused to 1995, and I met her, Colonel Holmes he takes off, in what the Air Force shake his hand. turned this matter over to his daughter called the Liberator and what the Navy Mr. Speaker, same subject, different and his wife Irene to represent him called the Privateer, because it had one field. Infanticide. I know 15 Repub- with the press. I repeat, there are pic- big single tail instead of two, in a PB– licans voted for this, two of them are tures of him in his den where he looks 2Y Privateer, loaded with explosives, not coming back, and I will always handsomer than John Wayne, so I can and they were going to radio control have this in the back of my mind when understand his reticence to go before direct it right into submarine pens and I deal with these 13 fellow Republicans the press and be torn up bail out over the English Channel and that probably will all be reelected. You know what the Wall Street Jour- be picked up. They all have safe races as far as I can nal did? And ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, ev- And it disappeared off the rudi- see. erybody, Washington Post? They said mentary radar that they had. Senator But this issue of infanticide, how the daughter wrote the letter. After TED KENNEDY’s oldest brother Joe dis- could 15 Republicans, 4 of them claim- sitting there with that man for 4 hours, appeared over the English Channel into ing to be Roman Catholics in their bi- I can tell you Colonel Holmes wrote a mist as the explosives were triggered ographies, vote for a baby being deliv- that letter, not his beautiful, educated by some electrical fault, they assume, ered, 80 percent out of the womb, delib- daughter in her forties or later thir- in midair. Maybe it was shot down by erately breech block, which is stressful ties. No, he wrote the letter. an enterprising Messerschmitt pilot to the mother. The mother is not in But the daughter wrote the letter. that was still coming that far. They any danger, or they would not be hold- There is something wrong, he will not did not come out over the channel ing the baby’s head in the birth canal. H12190 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 30, 1996 And with the baby’s little arms and is it, the baby’s cord is prolapsed, we tion showed the extremism of the abortion legs grasping at life, stab the baby in are into surgery here, we have to take industry in supporting abortion-on-demand the back of the head and remove the the baby C-section from your daughter, throughout all nine months of pregnancy, brains with a suction device, crushing and she had to be anesthetized. Defenders of this procedure claimed it was rare, that it was for the health of women, the cranium. Now women are calling in, does the and that the baby didn’t feel the pain of the Any doctor who does that is a killer, baby have a chance of dying if it is scissors. But in the last two weeks, the a murderer and if he does it over and anesthetized? Because they do not media finally acknowledged that none of this over, he is a serial murderer. A serial want to admit the baby is alive when it is true. The successful effort to kill the par- murderer. Seven or eight Catholic Sen- is held in the birth canal. tial birth abortion ban showed that there is ators voted for it, six of them Irish Back to Dr. Dobson. They claim the no abortion the President and his allies in Americans, I am sick to tell you. And baby doesn’t feel the pain of the scis- the Senate would try to stop. over here 33 Catholics on that side of sors entering the back of its head. But ‘‘The Senators who joined President Clin- ton in actually defending partial birth abor- the row, four over here, but a great in the last 2 weeks, the media finally tion have the blood of innocent children on number of Democrats and a big vote, acknowledged none of that is true, their hands. I, as Thomas Jefferson did, more than two-thirds over here to stop even the Washington Post. The suc- ‘tremble for my country when I reflect that it; fell nine votes short in the Senate cessful effort to kill the partial birth, God is just and that His justice cannot sleep but it was still a big majority, 57 to 40- partial infanticide abortion ban, shows forever.’ ’’ something. that there is no abortion that Clinton And here is my pal that I first had on and his allies will not try to protect. A COLONEL SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT my television show as a young—we The Senators who joined Clinton in Sept. 7, 1992. both had full heads of red hair then— actually defending the partial birth Memorandum for Record: Dr. James Dobson, founder of Focus on abortion have the blood of innocent Subject: Bill Clinton and the University of Arkansas ROTC Program: the Family, moved away from this children on their hands. I, as Thomas There have been many unanswered ques- Beltway and from California to be out Jefferson said, tremble for my country tions as to the circumstances surrounding at Colorado Springs, God’s country, when I reflect that God is just, and Bill Clinton’s involvement with the ROTC here is what he says about the failure that his justice cannot sleep forever. department at the University of Arkansas. to override the Clinton veto of partial Here are the words of Cardinal, and I Prior to this time I have not felt the neces- birth infanticide. am going to mispronounce his name, a sity for discussing the details. The reason I have not done so before is that my poor b 1545 beautiful Spanish name, Bevilacqua, I believe he is from Senator RICK physical health (a consequence of participa- tion in the Bataan Death March and the sub- He dated it from his office here in SANTORUM’s State, Pennsylvania, his sequent 31⁄2 years internment in Japanese Washington. In reaction to today’s fail- words speak as eloquently as Dr. Dob- ure, and I have to redact little of this, POW camps) has precluded me from getting son’s. He says, if late term abortions into what I felt was unnecessary involve- because we cannot comment, well, I are legal, Cardinal Bevilacqua, he ment. However, present polls show that can comment on policy, failure by the speaks, a prince of the church, I truly there is the imminent danger to our country U.S. Senate to override Clinton’s veto fear that infanticide, legal infanticide, of a draft dodger becoming the Commander- of the partial-birth abortion ban, Dr. will not be far behind, said the Arch- in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United James Dobson, President of Focus on bishop of Philadelphia. No nation, no States. While it is true, as Mr. Clinton has the Family, released the following civilization, that loses its moral life, stated, that there are many others who avoided serving their country in the Viet- statement, and every word of this that murders its children, can possibly speaks for me, and I will bet for you, nam War, they are not aspiring to be the survive. President of the United States. JERRY SOLOMON, and the Speaker. That day from the gallery, after he The tremendous implications of the possi- This was a dark day in the entire his- left the gallery, Dr. James Dobson, a bility of his becoming Commander-in-Chief tory of this Nation. Forty Senators child psychiatrist, who I guested regu- of the United States’ Armed Forces compels joined Clinton in turning their backs larly when he was at the University of me now to comment on the facts concerning on the most vulnerable members of the Southern California on my Emmy Mr. Clinton’s evasion of the draft. human family, baby boys and girls, award winning show in 1968 and 1969, in This account would not have been impera- tive had Bill Clinton been completely honest who are literally inches from being between a lot of flights to Vietnam, to completely born. Because the Senate with the American public concerning this see how the conflict against com- matter. But as Mr. Clinton replied on a news abandoned its moral duty to stop such munism was going, he said judgment conference this evening (Sept. 5, 1992) after an evil practice, these children will will come upon this Nation. being asked another particular about his now continue to be murdered in the We have a morality test and an IQ dodging the draft, ‘‘Almost everyone con- most despicable way, a procedure Con- test on November 5, Mr. Speaker. I cerned with these incidents are dead. I have gressman HENRY HYDE so aptly called hope the Nation passes it. no more comments to make.’’ Since I may be revolting, even to the most hardened Mr. Speaker, I include the following the only person living who can give a first- hand account of what actually transpired, I heart. for the RECORD. Dr. Dobson continues: The pro-abor- am obligated by my love for my country and DR. JAMES DOBSON DENOUNCES SENATE FAIL- tion disinformation campaign, lying my sense of duty to divulge what actually URE TO OVERRIDE CLINTON VETO OF PAR- happened and make it a matter of record. campaign actually by the billion dollar TIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN Bill Clinton came to see me in my home in killing industry, murdering industry WASHINGTON—In reaction to today’s fail- 1969 to discuss his desire to enroll in the that was launched against this legisla- ure by the U.S. Senate to override President ROTC program at the University of Arkan- tion, showed the extremism of the Clinton’s veto of the Partial Birth Abortion sas. We engaged in an extensive, approxi- abortion industry in supporting abor- Ban, Dr. James Dobson, president of Focus mately two (2) hour interview. At no time tion on demand throughout all my on the Family, released the following state- during this long conversation about his de- months of pregnancy for any reason or ment: sire to join the program did he inform me of no reason. ‘‘This was a dark day in the entire history his involvement, participation, and actually of the Senate and of this nation. 40 Senators organizing protests against the United Defenders of this procedure claimed joined President Clinton in turning their States involvement in Southeast Asia. He it was rare, that it was only for the backs on the most vulnerable members of was shrewd enough to realize that had I been health of the mother, and that the the human family—baby boys and girls who aware of his activities, he would not have baby did not feel the pain of the scis- are literally inches from being completely been accepted into the ROTC program as a sors; that the anesthesia would kill the born. potential officer in the United States Army. baby, terrifying, by the way all the ‘‘Because the Senate abandoned its moral The next day I began to receive phone calls mothers across this country, like my duty to stop such an evil practice, these chil- regarding Bill Clinton’s draft status. I was oldest daughter has had three C-sec- dren will now continue to be murdered in a informed by the draft board that it was of in- most despicable way—by a procedure Con- terest to Senator Fullbright’s office that Bill tions, cesareans, and had to have anes- gressman Henry Hyde so aptly called ‘revolt- Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, should be admit- thesia. The bells went off. A red light ing, even to the most hardened heart.’ ted to the ROTC program. I received several spun. When I am waiting as the dad ‘‘The pro-abortion disinformation cam- such calls. The general message conveyed by right there by the delivery room, what paign that was launched against this legisla- the draft board to me was that Senator September 30, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H12191 Fullbright’s office was putting pressure on ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER Mr. DORNAN. Well, I gave orders them and that they needed my help. I then PRO TEMPORE that that is not to be cut until another made the necessary arrangements to enroll The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. year. Mr. Clinton into the ROTC program at the Mr. MYERS of Indiana. His mother WALKER). With respect to a possible University of Arkansas. will take care of that. special order which the gentleman I was not ‘‘saving’’ him from serving his Mr. DORNAN. JOHN, keep coming country, as he erroneously thanked me for in sought for tomorrow for 1 hour, the back a lot. Loved serving with you. his letter from England (dated Dec. 3, 1969). gentleman should pursue that request Mr. SOLOMON. If the gentleman will I was making it possible for a Rhodes Schol- with the majority leader through the ar to serve in the military as an officer. yield, JOHN, I am going to say to you Cloakroom. what I said to the honorable Speaker In retrospect I see that Mr. Clinton had no Mr. DORNAN. Again to you, sir, good intention of following through with his sitting up there, BOB WALKER, the pro luck. What an honor serving with you tem Speaker who is going to be leaving agreement to join the ROTC program at Uni- for two decades. versity of Arkansas or to attend the Univer- along with you. But we certainly are sity of Arkansas Law School. I had explained The SPEAKER pro tempore. I thank gong to miss you, my friend, you and to him the necessity of enrolling at the Uni- the gentleman. JIM QUILLEN, who is retiring. I know versity of Arkansas as a student in order to f you are the best of friends, and the two be eligible to take the ROTC program at the of you sat in these two seats right here university. He never enrolled at the Univer- FAREWELL FROM THE HONOR- in front of me. sity of Arkansas, but instead enrolled at ABLE JOHN T. MYERS, MEMBER Mr. MYERS of Indiana. For a good Yale University after attending Oxford. I be- OF CONGRESS many years. lieve that he purposely deceived me, using the possibility of joining the ROTC as a ploy Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Mr. Speaker, Mr. SOLOMON. During every vote to work with the draft board to delay his in- it is with mixed emotions today that I taken for how many years, JOHN? duction and get a new draft classification. take this floor. After 30 years of service Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Thirty. The Dec. 3 letter written to me by Mr. in the House, if seems like only yester- JIMMY served 34. Clinton, and subsequently taken from the day, January 5, 1967, that I sat in that Mr. SOLOMON. I have been here 18 of files by Lt. Col. Clint Jones, my executive of- chair right there, with two little girls those years. I just wanted to tell you, ficer, was placed into the ROTC files so that by my side, Carol Ann, 11, and Lori, 6. when you would come to the Commit- a record would be available in case the appli- We took the oath together. tee on Rules and testify on the many cant should again petition to enter into the It is not a easy task to say good-bye. bills, especially the appropriation bill ROTC program. The information in that let- on energy-water that you would bring ter alone would have restricted Bill Clinton So many times we have heard the ex- pression, parting is such sweet sorrow. before us, you used to do it almost from ever qualifying to be an officer in the being humble, and I just always ad- United States military. Even more signifi- I never knew exactly what that meant. mired you for it, because some of us cant was his lack of veracity in purposely de- I guess I have said it myself many have a tendency to be a little emo- frauding the military by deceiving me, both times. tional and a little excitable. You al- in concealing his anti-military activities Mr. DORNAN. May I destroy the gen- ways had that reserved presence which overseas and his counterfeit intentions for tleman’s rhythm on that sweet sorrow later military service. These actions cause we all just admired so much. for 1 second? me to question both his patriotism and his So I just want to wish you and your integrity. Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Certainly, wonderful wife all the best, and hope When I consider the caliber, the bravery, my friend from California. It is dif- you do come back and lend us your ad- and the patriotism of the fine young soldiers ficult to follow the order of BOB DOR- vice from time to time. whose deaths I have witnessed, and others NAN. Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Thank you whose funerals I have attended. . . . When I Mr. DORNAN. You will like this. You very much. reflected on not only the willingness, but ea- are something else, Mr. MYERS. How Mr. BACHUS. If the gentleman will gerness that so many of them displayed in old were you when you were the com- their earnest desire to defend and serve their yield, Mr. MYERS, I wanted to say to mander as a lieutenant of a prison you, you and Mr. BEVILL, and we said country, it is untenable and incomprehen- camp for German prisoners? sible to me that a man who was not merely this on the floor of the House earlier unwilling to serve his country, but actually Mr. MYERS of Indiana. I spent my this year, that when it came to pro- protested against its military, should ever be 18th birthday there, as a lot of people tecting communities against floods, in the position of Commander-in-Chief of our did. building levies, I do not think there is Armed Forces. Mr. Dornan. Second lieutenant at 18. a district in the country that have a I write this declaration not only for the Pretty darn good, commanding a Ger- river that is not thankful to you for living and future generations, but for those man POW camp. your many years of services on the who fought and died for our country. If space Mr. MYERS of Indiana. In the Air House Appropriations Committee. A and time permitted I would include the Force I would have been a captain. lot of people who do not know you, do names of the ones I knew and fought with, Mr. DORNAN. That is right, but that and along with them I would mention my not know your name, who may be view- brother Bob, who was killed, during World is because so many guys were shot ing today, do not realize what a dif- War II and is buried in Cambridge, England down in the chain of command. And ference you have made in their commu- (at the age of 23, the age Bill Clinton was you came in George Bush’s class of ’66. nities. But I want to compliment again when he was over in England protesting the Mr. MYERS of Indiana. We were to- you and Mr. BEVILL for your many war). gether, yes. years of service to the communities of I have agonized over whether or not to sub- Mr. DORNAN. With J.P. Hammer- our nation. mit this statement to the American people. schmidt, who beat Clinton at his only Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Thank you But, I realize that even though I served my other attempt at Federal office in 1974, very much for the nice remarks. country by being in the military for over 32 beat him by 6,600 votes. Thirty years, Sweet sorrow, the sweet side is the years, and having gone through the ordeal of months of combat under the worst condi- 1966 to 1996. A whole decade more than fact that the people of the 7th Congres- tions followed by years of imprisonment by BOB WALKER. I have just loved serving sional District, the midwest-central the Japanese, it is not enough. I’m writing with you. And you put the icing on the part of Indiana, sent me here for 30 these comments to let everyone know that I cake, you honorable man, you, by years. I have had the privilege of rep- love my country more than I do my own per- bringing those grandkids, that look resenting the good folks of Indiana, sonal security and well-being. I will go to my like they were drawn by Norman Rock- and it has been a great experience. grave loving these United States of America well onto this floor, Justin and Austin, But the sorrow is, first, I feel some- and the liberty for which so many men have John Austin and Justin. What an honor what like I have left the staff, the per- fought and died. serving with you, JOHN. Let us stay in sonal staff we have had through the Because of my poor physical condition, touch. years, very loyal, I hope I have not for- this will be my final statement. I will make no further comments to any of the media re- Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Thank you saken them. But leaving them, when garding this issue. for knowing he was a little boy with often they worked extra hours to carry EUGENE J. HOLMES, that long curly hair. Grandpa wishes out and help a constituent. There al- Colonel, U.S.A., Ret. he has some of that. ways has to be a time when we decide