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Cumulative of All Oral History Transcripts (updated September 15, 2014) Alan Greenspan Greg Ford Nancy Brinker * Greg Willard Ann Cullen Guy Swan Pat Oliphant * Anne Holkeboer Hal Bruno Patrick Butler * Aram Bakshian Hank Meijer Patti Matson * Benton Becker Harry Bosscher Paul Jenkins Betty Monkman Harry Frampton Paul O’Neill Helen Thomas Penny Circle Bill Bresnahan Henry Haller Pepi & Sheika Bill Coleman Gramshammer * Bill Gill H.P. Goldfield Peter Arbruzzese Bill Laughlin Jack Eck Bill Timmons Jack Marsh Peter McPherson Bill and Sally Hanlon Peter Pocklington Birge Watkins James West Peter Secchia Bob Barrett Jan Hart Peter Wallison Jerry Jones Phil Jones Bob Goodwin Jim Cannon Ralph Hauenstein Bob Hynes Jim Greenbaum Red Cavaney Bob Michel Jim Trimpe Rex Scouten * Bob Orben Joe Sweeney Richard DeVos Bob Schieffer John Baab Richard Keiser Bobbie Kilberg John Carlson Richard Wennekamp Bonnie Angelo Robert Bork * John Engler Robert DuPont Carla Hills John Fifer Robert Griffin Chris Chase John Knebel Roberta Hartmann Chris DeMuth John Logie Rod Slifer Cokie Roberts John Purcell Roderick Hills David Frey John Schwarzlose Roger Porter David Gergen John Paul Stevens Ron Nessen David Kennerly Jon Nunn Sam Donaldson David Matthews Jonathan Rose * Sandy Weill David Mehney Joseph Staufer Seymour Padnos Kaiser Morcus Sheila Weidenfeld Dick Ford Ken Lazarus Shelli Archibald Dick Garbarino Larry Buendorf Stanton Anderson * Don Penny Lee Bollinger Steve Ford Don Rumsfeld Lee Hamilton Strobe Talbott Don Wilson Lee Simmons Stu Spencer Dorothy Downton Leon Parma Susan Ford Bales Doug Bailey Lilian Fisher Susan Porter Rose * Linda Burba Terry O’Donnell Frank & Pat Lynch Liz and Luc Meyer Todd Maturnich Frank Ursomarso Lloyd Carr Tom DeFrank Frank Weston Lorainne Ornelas Tom Kauper Frank Zarb Lou Cannon Tom Korologos Frankie Welch Maria Downs Tyne Berlanga Fred Barnes Martin Allen Vaden & Susan Bales Fred Green Marvin Dewinter Vern Ehlers Fred Meijer Mary Fisher Wayne Hoffman Gail Raiman Maury DeJonge Werner Veit Gary Walters Max Friedersdorf William Brock George W. Bush Mel Laird William Seale Gerald Warren Mike Ford * William Usery *! Gordon VanderTill Mike Wagner

* Publication of this transcript is withheld pending receipt of the interviewee’s release approval.

1 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

1976 Republican Convention Martin Allen Interview, 15–16 Bob Dole Interview, 16-17 Albright, Madeline Dick Cheney Interview, 29-33, 44 Ron Nessen Interview, 23–24 Greg Willard Interview, 6 Alcohol Anonymous Paul O'Neill Interview, 27–28 Schwartlose/West Interview, 3–4 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 19–25 Allen, Martin 1980 Republican Convention Dick Ford Interview, 28 George W. Bush Interview, 5–6 American Enterprise Institute 30-30 Club Carla Hills Interview, 25 Harold Bosscher Interview, 1–2 Amnesty for draft dodgers Jim Trimpe Interview, 1, 5–6 Roderick Hills Interview, 13 Amtrak William Coleman Interview, 14 A Abbott, Jay Rich DeVos Interview, 6–7 Maury DeJonge Interview, 20 Andriessen, Karel Abbruzzese, Peter Interview Seymour Padnos Interview, 4 Abortion issue Angelo, Bonnie Interview David Matthews Interview, 13 Annenberg, Walter & Leonore John Paul Stevens Interview, 11 Lee Simmons Interview, 31–32 Admiral Yamamoto Archer, Bill Interview John Paul Stevens Interview, 3 Archibald, Shelli Interview Advance man, responsibilities of Areda, Phil Dick Cheney Interview, 44 Ken Lazarus Interview, 6–7 Red Cavaney Interview, 23-30 Arends, Leslie Richard Wennekamp Interview, 2-3 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 11 AEI World Affairs Leon Parma I Interview, 2 Chris DeMuth Interview, 1–2, 8–9 Stu Spencer Interview, 26 Martin Allen Interview, 42 Arias, Oscar Bill Laughlin Interview, 6–7 John Paul Stevens Interview, 16–17 Armstrong, Anne Agnew, Spiro Martin Allen Interview, 44 Aram Bakshian Interview, 12 Stu Spencer Interview, 62, 101 Benton Becker Interview, 32–33 Arnaz, Desi Bill Bresnahan Interview, 2–5 Leon Parma I Interview, 5 Carla Hills Interview, 4 Ash Council David Kennerly Interview, 1–2 Peter Wallison Interview, 1–3 Greg Willard Interview, 27-28 Hal Bruno Interview, 8–9 Jerry Jones Interview, 8 B John Logie Interview, 9-10 Baab, John Interview Mel Laird Interview, 17–18 Bailey, Doug Interview, 17–20 Pat Buchanan Interview, 3–4 Bailey, Pearl Penny Circle Interview, 24 Maria Downs Interview, 18 Phil Jones Interview, 9–10 Stu Spencer Interview, 91–92 Robert Bork Interview, 1–5 Bailey-Deardorff Ron Nessen Interview, 3–5 Doug Bailey Interview, 1–5 Sam Donaldson Interview, 5 Baker, Fred Tom Korologos Interview, 6–8 Maury DeJonge Interview, 2, 3 William Brock Interview, 15–16, 18 Baker, Howard Air Force One Stu Spencer Interview, 62 Greg Willard Interview, 17, 31-32, 35-39 Baker, Howard, Sr. John Paul Stevens Interview, 13 William Brock Interview, 8 Airbag legislation Baker, James William Coleman Interview, 8, 14–15 Peter Secchia Interview, 25 Airline deregulation Stu Spencer Interview, 44, 83–84 William Coleman Interview, 14 Baker, James Interview Albert, Carl Bakshian, Aram Interview

1 Index

Paul Jenkins Interview, 4–5, 13–14 Bales, Susan Ford Interview Peter Pocklington Interview, 4–6 Bales, Susan Ford – See “Ford, Susan” Robert DuPont Interview, 21–22 Schwartlose/West Interview, 1–18 Bales, Vaden Shelli Archibald Interview, 23 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 1–22 Stu Spencer Interview, 58–59, 96–97 Bales, Vaden and Susan Interview Bicentennial Barnes, Fred Interview Queen Elizabeth Barrett, Bob Maria Downs Interview, 19–20 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 3–4 William Seale Interview, 20 Martin Allen Interview, 19 Black, Charlie Penny Circle Interview, 1–4 Stu Spencer Interview, 75, 77 Peter Secchia Interview, 30, 38 Stu Spencer Interview, 94 Bob Griffin Interview, 11–12 Barrett, Bob Interview Blandford, Bob Baseball Maury DeJonge Interview, 15 John Paul Stevens Interview, 4 Boggs, Hale Bass house Anne Holkeboer Interview, 10 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 3 Dorothy Downton Interview, 7–8 Battle of the Bulge Max Friedersdorf Interview, 5 William Coleman Interview, 3 Bollinger, Lee Interview Bauer, Bill Bolls, Bill John Paul Stevens Interview, 13 Maury DeJonge Interview, 17 Seymour Padnos Interview, 5–6 Booth Newspapers Baus, Herb Maury DeJonge Interview, 17 Stu Spencer Interview, 2 Bork, Robert Baxter, Leone Carla Hills Interview, 2–3 Stu Spencer Interview, 1 John Paul Stevens Interview, 12 Becker, Benton Bork, Robert Interview David Kennerly Interview, 19 Borstein, Dan Belin, David Martin Allen Interview, 7 Domestic Council Bosscher, Harold Interview Peter Wallison Interview, 12–14 Boston bussing case Bell, Al Robert Bork Interview, 17–18 Stu Spencer Interview, 4 Branch Rickey Commission Bell, Jeffrey William Coleman Interview, 4 Stu Spencer Interview, 37 Bresnahan, Bill Interview Bennett, Bob Breyer, Justice Stephen Tom Korologos Interview, 2 John Paul Stevens Interview, 11 Bentley, Al William Coleman Interview, 13 Maury DeJonge Interview, 25 Brock, Margaret Benton, Becker Leon Parma I Interview, 8 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 21–22 Brock, William Berger, Justice Bill Timmons Interview, 1–2 Maury DeJonge Interview, 10–11 Peter Secchia Interview, 25 Berger, Winter Brock, William Interview Anne Holkeboer Interview, 14–15 Broder, David Berlanga, Hector Maury DeJonge Interview, 11 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 18–19 Bronkema, Jack Berlanga, Joy Maury DeJonge Interview, 3 Greg Willard Interview, 32 Brown, Art Tyne Berlanga Interview, 2, 16–17 Dick Ford Interview, 9, 24–25 Berlanga, Tyne Interview Brown, Bob Bersie, Jim Dick Ford Interview, 28 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 3 Brown, Jerry Center Ford assassination attempt Fred Green Interview, 7–8 Ron Nessen Interview, 25–27 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 9–10 Brown, Pat

2 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Stu Spencer Interview, 9, 19–20 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 15–16 Brown, Phyllis Dick Ford Interview, 10 Buzhardt, Fred Jim Cannon Interview, 3, 37–38 Benton Becker Interview, 34 Penny Circle Interview, 12–13 Bill Timmons Interview, 24–25 Bruno, Hal Interview Bonnie Angelo Interview, 14–15 Bryrd, Sen. Robert Jerry Jones Interview, 5–6 Tom Korologos Interview, 9–12 Jim Cannon Interview, 19–21 Buchanan, Pat Interview Max Friedersdorf Interview, 9 Mel Laird Interview, 13–14, 18 Buchen, Phil Bylan, Hy Birge Watkins Interview, 2–-3 Seymour Padnos Interview, 13 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 11–12 David Mehney Interview, 6–7 Dick Ford Interview, 11, 25 C H.P. Goldfield Interview, 3 Calder, Alexander John Logie Interview, 3-4, 6-11 Maury DeJonge Interview, 16 Ken Lazarus Interview, 2 Calder, Sandy Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 9 Maury DeJonge Interview, 16 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 8–9 Calder sculpture Roger Porter Interview, 4–5 Bill Gill Interview, 6–7 Stu Spencer Interview, 46 David Frey Interview, 6–7 Buchwald, Art Dick Ford Interview, 35 Benton Becker Interview, 24–25 Joe Sweeney Interview, 6–7 Maury DeJonge Interview, 15 Bumgardner, Randy Werner Veit Interview, 11–12 Greg Willard Interview, 38-40 Callaghan, Lord Burba, Linda Interview Bill Laughlin Interview, 2–5 Carla Hills Interview, 25 Burns, Arthur Kaiser Morcus Interview, 8 Alan Greenspan Interview, 9–11 Martin Allen Interview, 41 Callaway, Bo Bush, George W. Peter Secchia Interview, 16 Bob Goodwin Interview, 27–28 Stu Spencer Interview, 42 Greg Willard Interview, 38-40 Calvinist influence Martin Allen Interview, 73 Seymour Padnos Interview, 1–2 Campaign strategy Bush, George H.W. Doug Bailey Interview, 16–22 George W. Bush Interview, 1–2 Cannon, James Greg Willard Interview, 29, 40 Stu Spencer Interview, 11, 25 Martin Allen Interview, 43, 67 Cannon, Jim Interview Penny Circle Interview, 17, 34–35 Cannon, Lou Peter Secchia Interview, 39 Ron Nessen Interview, 6 Roderick Hills Interview, 9 Cannon, Lou Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 80, 101 Capitol Hill William Coleman Interview, 12 culture in the 70s Bush, George W. Interview Helen Thomas Interview, 1 Card, Andy Bush, Laura Penny Circle Interview, 18 George W. Bush Interview, 5 Carlson, John Interview, 33–34 Butler, Patrick Carlucci, Frank Interview Bob Orben Interview, 18 Carmichael, Hogie Butler, Patrick Interview #1, 32–-33 Leon Parma I Interview, 5 Butterfield, Alex Carr, Lloyd Interview Dick Cheney Interview, 13 Carr, Vicky Terry O'Donnell Interview, 4 Don Penny Interview, 17 Butz, Earl Ron Nessen Interview, 30–31 John Knebel Interview, 2, 12–13, 21–22 Carter, Jimmy

3 Index

Bob Schieffer Interview, 20–21 Church Committee Dorothy Downton Interview, 38–39, 41 Frank Carlucci Interview, 11 Greg Willard Interview, 30-32, 39 Roderick Hills Interview, 17–21 Lee Simmons Interview, 29–31 CIA Paul O'Neill Interview, 26–27 Roderick Hills Interview, 12, 17–21 Peter Secchia Interview, 39, 40 Circle, Penny Richard Kaiser Interview, 26–27 Lorraine Ornelas Interview, 15 Sam Donaldson Interview, 19–21 Martin Allen Interview, 4 Stu Spencer Interview, 84–85, 88 Peter Secchia Interview, 30 William Brock Interview, 20–21 Circle, Penny Interview Carter, Rosalynn Civil Division, Justice Department Peter Secchia Interview, 41 Carla Hills Interview, 5–6 Cavaney, Red Civil rights Bob Orben Interview, 2 William Brock Interview, 2–4, 10–11 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 26–27 Clark, Bundy Cedar Springs, Iowa Stu Spencer Interview, 6 Maury DeJonge Interview, 19 Clark, Joe Celebration on the Grand William Coleman Interview, 4–5 Peter Secchia Interview, 48 Clawson, Ken Charlie's Seminars Ron Nessen Interview, 9 Leon Parma I Interview, 3 Clements, Bill Chase, Chevy Stu Spencer Interview, 101 Bob Orben Interview, 15–16 Clerkship Peter Secchia Interview, 24 John Paul Stevens Interview, 4 Ron Nessen Interview, 17–19 Chase, Chris Interview Clinton, Hillary Chefs, Greg Willard Interview, 39 Henry Haller Interview Martin Allen Interview, 25 Clinton, William J. Cheney, Dick Bob Barrett Interview, 32–33 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 11 James Greenbaum Interview, 3 Bob Orben Interview, 1, 19 Lee Simmons Interview, 36–37 Bob Schieffer Interview, 14–15 Martin Allen Interview, 25, 73–74 Dorothy Downton Interview, 24–25 Penny Circle Interview, 18–19, 20–22 George W. Bush Interview, 7–10 Peter Secchia Interview, 39 Greg Willard Interview, 6, 37 Phil Jones Interview, 15–17 Helen Thomas Interview, 20 William Coleman Interview, 12 H.P. Goldfield Interview, 4–5 Coleman, William Lou Cannon Interview, 8–9 Roderick Hills Interview, 6–7 Maria Downs Interview, 27 Coleman, William Interview Phil Jones Interview, 11–12 Collins, Paul Ron Nessen Interview, 20–21, 31–32 David Mehney Interview, 9–10 Stu Spencer Interview, 11, 23–24, 42, 51, 61, 81, 83– Maury DeJonge Interview, 13, 19 84, 90–91 Committee to Reelect Tom Korologos Interview #2, 8–9 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 7 China, 1974 trip Common-situs picketing Max Friedersdorf Interview, 14–15 Fred Barnes Interview, 9–10 Chotiner, Murray James Baker Interview, 9–10 Stu Spencer Interview, 67 Roderick Hills Interview, 16–17 Chowder & Marching Society Concorde Bill Archer Interview, 1–3 William Coleman Interview, 7–8 Bob Michael Interview, 4, 21 Congressional Elections - 1958 Mel Laird Interview, 1 Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Christian Reformed Church Congressional Gold Medal Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 12 Martin Allen Interview, 31 Vern Ehlers Interview, 3-4 Vern Ehlers, 14-15 Christopher, George Congressional Medal of Freedom Stu Spencer Interview, 17–18, 20 Martin Allen Interview, 30–31

4 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Connally, John Peter Secchia Interview, 48–49 Bill Timmons Interview, 20–21 Ron Nessen Interview, 6–7 David Kennerly Interview, 30–32 Stu Spencer Interview, 71, 96 Pat Buchanan Interview, 6–8 DeJonge, Maury Peter Wallison Interview, 1–3 Peter Secchia Interview, 27–28 Stu Spencer Interview, 83–84, 101 DeLay, Tom Tom Korologos Interview, 9, 12 Penny Circle Interview, 19 Conrad, Charlie DeMuth, Chris Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 21 Department of Justice Cook, Frank Benton Becker Interview, 1–3, 37–38 Jim Trimpe Interview, 4 d'Estaing, Giscard Cook, Peter Bill Laughlin Interview, 8 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 8 Carla Hills Interview, 25 Cook, Peter Interview Dorothy Downton Interview, 35 Council of Economic Advisors Kaiser Morcus Interview, 8 Alan Greenspan Interview, 1 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 8–9 Cox, Archibald Martin Allen Interview, 41 Carla Hills Interview, 3 DeVos, Rich Robert Bork Interview, 6–8 Martin Allen Interview, 72 CREEP (Committee to Reelect) DeVos, Rich Interview Max Friedersdorf Interview, 7 DeVos Performance Hall Cronkite, Walter Peter Secchia Interview, 48 Bob Schieffer Interview, 20 Rich DeVos Interview, 8–9 John Carlson Interview, 4–5 Dewinter, Marv Cullen, Ann Interview Fred Meijer Interview, 6–7 Dilley, Dilley, and Dilley Peter Secchia Interview, 27 D Director, Aaron Damstra, John John Paul Stevens Interview, 8 Maury DeJonge Interview, 19 Dirksen, Everett Dart, Justin Anne Holkeboer Interview, 9 offer of Reagan vice presidency Bob Michael Interview, 8–9, 16–17 Leon Parma I Interview, 8 Dorothy Downton Interview, 10 Davis, Marvin Leon Parma I Interview, 4 Penny Circle Interview, 23 Stu Spencer Interview, 63–64 De facto segregation William Brock Interview, 12–13 David Matthews Interview, 9–10 Dobrynin, Anatoly Dean, John Henry Kissinger Interview, 7–8 Benton Becker Interview, 29, 48 Dole, Elizabeth Jon Nunn Interview, 13 William Coleman Interview, 14 Sam Donaldson Interview, 26 Dole, Robert J. Stu Spencer Interview, 70 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 11–12 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 4–5 Bob Goodwin Interview, 18–20 Dean, John (closed text) Kaiser Morcus Interview, 3–4 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 8–9 Peter Wallison Interview, 31–34 Deardourff and Bailey Pat Nixon funeral Stu Spencer Interview, 89 Stu Spencer Interview, 67–68 Death penalty John Paul Stevens Interview, 3, 11, 14 Russell, Kansas 1976 campaign visit Deep Throat Bob Dole Interview, 16-17 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 6–7 Dick Cheney Interview, 44 DeFrank, Tom Greg Willard Interview, 6 Benton Becker Interview, 61–62 Red Cavaney Interview, 26-27 David Kennerly Interview, 5, 7 selection as vice president Leon Parma I Interview, 4 John Knebel Interview, 11 Martin Allen Interview, 28–29 Maury DeJonge Interview, 11–12 Penny Circle Interview, 32 Stu Spencer Interview, 62, 82–83 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 20 Dole, Robert J. Interview

5 Index

Domestic Council Persons, General Jerry Peter Wallison Interview, 12–17, 20–21 Leon Parma I Interview, 2 Donaldson, Sam Interview presidential library Douglas, Justice William Don Wilson Interview, 1–2 Benton Becker Interview, 3–10 Tuskee Airmen Bill Timmons Interview, 16–17 William Coleman Interview, 3 John Paul Stevens Interview, 7 Downs, Maria Interview Downton, Dorothy Election Night 1976 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 32–33 Gary Walters Interview, 31-32 Downton, Dorothy Interview Greg Willard Interview, 8-13 Drugs, war on Leon Parma Interview, 23- 24 Robert DuPont Interview, 1–16 Rex Scouten Interview, 28-29 Dukov, Esther Elliott, Alan Anne Holkeboer Interview, 14–15 Jim Trimpe Interview, 4 Duncan, John Ely, John Hart William Brock Interview, 8 William Coleman Interview, 8 Dunlop, John Embassy staircase Roderick Hills Interview, 16 Ron Nessen Interview, 23–24 DuPont, Robert Interview Energy Independence Corporation Dutch influence Paul O'Neill Interview, 23 Frank Weston Interview, 15 Peter Wallison Interview, 17–19 Gordon VanderTill Interview, 4–6 Engler, Gov. John Hank Meijer Interview, 3 Peter Secchia Interview, 45 Marvin DeWinter Interview, 14–15 Engler, John Interview Peter McPherson Interview, 1-4 Ev and Jerry Show Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 4, 7–8 Sam Donaldson Interview, 7 Rich DeVos Interview, 1–4 Evergreen magazine Seymour Padnos Interview, 17 Benton Becker Interview, 7–8 Werner Veit Interview, 3–6 Dutch Reformed Church divorce F Maury DeJonge Interview, 5 Family Assistance Program influence of Paul O'Neill Interview, 5–7 Bill Gill Interview, 8–11 Fifer, John Interview Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 8 Finch, Bob Rich DeVos Interview, 1–4 Stu Spencer Interview, 32, 66–67 Seymour Padnos Interview, 2 Firestone, Leonard Ann Cullen Interview, 9–10 Chris Chase Interview, 8–10 E Dick Garbarino Interview, 1–2 Earhart, Amelia Fred Green Interview, 7–8 John Paul Stevens Interview, 1 James Greenbaum Interview, 3–4 Eastern Establishment Kaiser Morcus Interview, 8–9, 12 Peter Wallison Interview, 3–5 Leon Parma I Interview, 10 Economic Policy Board Lorraine Ornelas Interview, 15–16 Alan Greenspan Interview, 8–9 Martin Allen Interview, 19, 52 Ehrlichman, John Penny Circle Interview, 3–4, 22–23 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 1–6 Peter Secchia Interview, 38–39 Eisenhower, Dwight D. Richard Wennekamp Interview, 17 Lou Cannon Interview, 3 Stu Spencer Interview, 59 civil rights issues Susan Ford Bales Interview, 49 William Coleman Interview, 2–3 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 10–11 desegration Fisher, Max William Coleman Interview, 3 Peter Secchia Interview, 47 personal stories about Stu Spencer Interview, 73 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 16–17 Don Wilson Interview, 1–5

6 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Congressional days Ford, Betty Cokie Roberts Interview, 4–7 Mel Laird Interview, 7 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 23–24 1976 election Vern Ehlers Interview, 8-11 Lillian Fisher Interview, 12 early years Peter McPherson Interview, 26 Lillian Fisher Interview, 1–7 1976 Republican Convention Susan Ford Bales Interview, 6–7 Maury DeJonge Interview, 13 face lift 1980 election Chris Chase Interview, 16–17 Stu Spencer Interview, 94–95 Lillian Fisher Interview, 15–16 faith, importance of addictions Jan Hart Interview, 4 Chris Chase Interview, 2–7 family life Greg Willard Interview, 22-25 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 4–5, 13–14 Lillian Fisher Interview, 9–11 Dick Ford Interview, 13–14 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 11–12 Jan Hart Interview, 6–7 Robert DuPont Interview, 22 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 24 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 7 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 10–11 arts, support of the family values Tyne Berlanga Interview, 8 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 12–13 assassination attempt on husband fashion style Ron Nessen Interview, 26–27 Ann Cullen Interview, 8–9 autographs Anne Holkeboer Interview, 6 Ann Cullen Interview, 34–35 Frankie Welch Interview, 2–18 Betty Ford Center Jan Hart Interview, 7 Ann Cullen Interview, 10–11 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 18–19, 27 Jan Hart Interview, 3–4 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 6–7 Paul Jenkins Interview, 4–5, 13–14 first acquaintance with Peter Pocklington Interview, 4–6 Chris Chase Interview, 1 Schwartlose/West Interview, 1–18 Frankie Welch Interview, 1 Shelli Archibald Interview, 23 John Logie Interview, 3 biography Nancy Brinker Interview, 4-5 Chris Chase Interview, 1–21 first husband breast cancer Chris Chase Interview, 12–13 Nancy Brinker Interview, 1-2, 10-11 as First Lady character traits Anne Holkeboer Interview, 22–23 Ann Cullen Interview, 36 Bob Michael Interview, 30 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 3–4 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 21–24, 35–37 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 12–13 David Kennerly Interview, 34–36 Greg Ford Interview, 19–20 Dick Ford Interview, 32 Greg Willard Interview, 14 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 11 Helen Thomas Interview, 15 George W. Bush Interview, 12–13 James Greenbaum Interview, 4–5, 7–8 Greg Willard Interview, 13-15 Lee Hamilton Interview, 4–5 Henry Haller Interview, 9 Lorraine Ornelas Interview, 11–13, 18–19 Jim Cannon Interview, 32 Maria Downs Interview, 15–16 Maria Downs Interview, 13–15 Penny Circle Interview, 34 Nancy Brinker Interview, 5-6 Peter Pocklington Interview, 25 Patrick Butler Interview #1, 18–20 Sandy Weill Interview, 8 Peter Secchia Interview, 32–33 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 18–19 Ron Nessen Interview, 29 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 7 Stu Spencer Interview, 58–59 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 17 William Seale Interview, 9, 21–24 Christmas holidays funeral Tyne Berlanga Interview, 25 Dick Ford Interview, 30–31 Clem Conger Leon Parma I Interview, 12 Betty Monkman Interview, 12–13 Martin Allen Interview, 54 William Seale Interview, 3–4, 9–12 Ron Nessen Interview, 31

7 Index Ford, Betty Dorothy Downton Interview, 30–31 Jan Hart Interview, 3–4 Shelli Archibald Interview, 21 Schwartlose/West Interview, 17 funeral of Susan Ford Bales Interview, 21 Ann Cullen Interview, 15–19 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 23–24 Greg Willard Interview, 31-41 Guy Swan Interview, 3–14 intervention Jan Hart Interview, 18–19 Bob Barrett Interview, 13–15 Peter Pocklington Interview, 26–27 Chris Chase Interview, 2–7, 13 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 26–28 Lillian Fisher Interview, 15 grandchildren Peter Pocklington Interview, 6–7 Lillian Fisher Interview, 13–15 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 13–14 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 1–31 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 14–15 health issues Ann Cullen Interview, 29 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 13, 20–21, 21–22 Ann Cullen Interview, 13–14 Betty Monkman Interview, 14 Greg Willard Interview, 25-26 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 20–21 Bob Barrett Interview, 11–13 latter years Bob Orben Interview, 26–27 Jan Hart Interview, 15 Bob Schieffer Interview, 12 Lee Simmons Interview, 42–43 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 22–25 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 22–23 David Kennerly Interview, 32–34 Dick Garbarino Interview, 26 legacy Dick Ford Interview, 21, 23–24 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 21–22 Don Penny Interview, 13–14 Robert DuPont Interview, 23 Dorothy Downton Interview, 28–29 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 20 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 11–12 Leonard Firestone Fred Meijer Interview, 14–15 Ann Cullen Interview, 9–10 Greg Willard Interview, 14, 22–25 Chris Chase Interview, 8–10 Guy Swan Interview, 6 Medal of Freedom James Greenbaum Interview, 3 Ann Cullen Interview, 22 Jan Hart Interview, 19 Dick Ford Interview, 24 Jim Cannon Interview, 32–33 Penny Circle Interview, 36 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 8–9 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 13 Leon Parma I Interview, 5, 12–13 Lillian Fisher Interview, 8–9 move to Rancho Mirage Lou Cannon Interview, 25 Greg Willard Interview, 15–17 Martin Allen Interview, 55 Naval Observatory Circle house Max Friedersdorf Interview, 21 Betty Monkman Interview, 7–8 Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 11–14 personal assistant Peter Secchia Interview, 4 Jan Hart Interview, 1–3 Phil Jones Interview, 27–28 personal stories about Richard Wennekamp Interview, 13–15 Ann Cullen Interview, 16–17, 40 Ron Nessen Interview, 28–29 Chris Chase Interview, 10–11 Stu Spencer Interview, 57–58 Frankie Welch Interview, 2–18 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 22–23, 39–42 John Purcell Interview, 11–12 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 25–26 Lillian Fisher Interview, 22 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 14–15 Linda Burba Interview, 11–13 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 2–3 Roberta Hartmann Interview, 14–15 Werner Veit Interview, 8–9 humor, sense of post-presidency schedule Ann Cullen Interview, 1 Ann Cullen Interview, 5–6 Bob Schieffer Interview, 12–13 Dick Garbarino Interview, 3–5 Jon Nunn Interview, 13–14 Greg Willard Interview, 17-19, 25 Peter Secchia Interview, 18 Jan Hart Interview, 7–8 after husband's death

8 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts Ford, Betty Martin Allen Interview, 7, 71 Ford, Dorothy G. Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 18–19 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 26–28 public speaking Linda Burba Interview, 8 Ann Cullen Interview, 11–12 family life Chris Chase Interview, 11 Dick Ford Interview, 3–4, 5 remembrance Linda Burba Interview, 3–5 Ann Cullen Interview, 39 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 3–5 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 21–22 relationship with son Henry Haller Interview, 27–28 Maury DeJonge Interview, 4 John Purcell Interview, 17 Rudyard Kipling poem Maria Downs Interview, 30–33 Dick Ford Interview, 4 Nancy Brinker Interview, 9-10 Lou Cannon Interview, 20 Schwartlose/West Interview, 18

sense of humor Dick Garbarino Interview, 8–9 Jan Hart Interview, 5–6 Lillian Fisher Interview, 18–19 Penny Circle Interview, 11–12 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 17 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 18–19 Sixty Minutes interview Ann Cullen Interview, 12–13 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 21 Bob Schieffer Interview, 12 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 21–22 Dick Ford Interview, 32 Helen Thomas Interview, 16 Lou Cannon Interview, 24–25 Maria Downs Interview, 22–23 Martin Allen Interview, 35 Peter Secchia Interview, 32 Phil Jones Interview, 28–29 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 11 Ron Nessen Interview, 29–30 Stu Spencer Interview, 58 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 22–23 staff, personal relations with Henry Haller Interview, 6 Maria Downs Interview, 9–11, 20–22 Maury DeJonge Interview, 13 tardiness Ann Cullen Interview, 7–8 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 26–28 technology Tyne Berlanga Interview, 4 temper Harry Frampton Interview, 9–10 Vail/Beaver Creek, Colorado Jan Hart Interview, 10–11 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 6–7 Lillian Fisher Interview, 12–13 Rod Slifer Interview, 4–5 women's issues David Matthews Interview, 27–28 Ford, Dick

9 Index Ford, Gerald R. Gary Walters Interview, 31-32 Greg Willard Interview, 8-13 Leon Parma Interview, 23- 24 1964 Republican convention Rex Scouten Interview, 28-29 John Knebel Interview, 23 1976 presidential debates 1964 Republican nomination Doug Bailey Interview, 25–27 Strobe Talbott Interview, 13–14 1976 primary Bob Orben Interview, 1–2 1976 campaign Ron Nessen Interview, 32 Bob Goodwin Interview, 11–14 Dick Cheney Interview, 33-34, 44, 47-48 1976 Republican Convention Fred Barnes Interview, 10–11 Aram Bakshian Interview, 25 George W. Bush Interview, 2–5 Bill Archer Interview, 21–23 Greg Willard Interview, 6-7 Bill Timmons Interview, 39–42 Henry Kissinger Interview, 14 Birge Watkins Interview, 15–16 James Baker Interview, 2–6 Bob Goodwin Interview, 14–16 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 20–23 Bob Orben Interview, 24–25 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 19-20 Bob Schieffer Interview, 19 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 26–27 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 32–34 Carla Hills Interview, 18–19 1976 election David Kennerly Interview, 20–21 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 20, 26–27 Dick Cheney Interview, 29-33, 44 Bill Archer Interview, 26 Dorothy Downton Interview, 36–37 Birge Watkins Interview, 21–22 Doug Bailey Interview, 6–8 Bob Goodwin Interview, 22–24 Fred Barnes Interview, 8–9, 11–16 Bob Schieffer Interview, 21–22 Greg Willard, Interview, 6 Carla Hills Interview, 26, 30–31 Hal Bruno Interview, 11–13 David Kennerly Interview, 41 Henry Kissinger Interview, 14–15 Dick Cheney Interview, 44, 47-50 James Baker Interview, 7–8, 10–11 Dick Ford Interview, 21–22 Jerry Jones Interview, 35–37 Don Penny Interview, 19–20 John Carlson Interview, 21 Dorothy Downton Interview, 37–38 John Engler Interview, 20 Doug Bailey Interview, 9–13 John Knebel Interview, 7–8 Gary Walters Interview, 31–32 Jon Nunn Interview, 1 Greg Ford Interview, 17–18 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 19–20 Greg Willard Interview, 6–13 Leon Parma I Interview, 7 H.P. Goldfield Interview, 16 Lou Cannon Interview, 9–10 James Baker Interview, 12–13, 16–18 Maury DeJonge Interview, 12–13 Jerry Jones Interview Max Friedersdorf Interview, 16 John Knebel Interview, 26 Paul O'Neill Interview, 27–28 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 23–25 Peter McPherson Interview, 17-24 Lou Cannon Interview, 24 Phil Jones Interview, 30–31 Martin Allen Interview, 9–10 Richard Kaiser Interview, 27–28 Maury DeJonge Interview, 14 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 10–11 Paul O'Neill Interview, 35 Robert J. Dole Interview, 10–11, 15 Peter Secchia Interview, 9, 35 Roderick Hills Interview, 27–28 Phil Jones Interview, 14 Ron Nessen Interview, 31–34, 33–34 Robert J. Dole Interview, 17–18 Strobe Talbott Interview, 3–4 Roderick Hills Interview, 27–28 Stu Spencer Interview, 48–49, 51–52, 60–62, 78–79 Roger Porter Interview, 17 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 46 Ron Nessen Interview, 38–39 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 34–35 Stu Spencer Interview, 26, 42, 45, 72, 88 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 47 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 26–29 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 11–12

1976 Election Night 10 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts Ford, Gerald R. Lee Simmons Interview, 1–2 Alexandria home 1980 election Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 17–18, 711 Greg Willard Interview, 29 amnesty Lou Cannon Interview, 18 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 15–16 Peter Secchia Interview, 35–36, 37–38 Dorothy Downton Interview, 25–26 Phil Jones Interview, 32 Martin Allen Interview, 21–22 Roderick Hills Interview, 28–29 Roderick Hills Interview, 13 Stu Spencer Interview, 93–95, 101 Appropriations Committee Mel Laird Interview, 3 1980 Republican Convention arts, support of the Bill Bresnahan Interview, 24 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 8, 19 Bob Barrett Interview, 15–20 assassination attempts Dick Cheney Interview, 27-28 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 11–12 Dorothy Downton Interview, 40–41 Bob Goodwin Interview, 21–22 George W. Bush Interview, 5–6 Bob Orben Interview, 30–31 Hal Bruno Interview, 34 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 22–25 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 17-18 Gary Walters Interview, 11–13 Penny Circle Interview, 5–7 Helen Thomas Interview, 14 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 24–25 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 15 1980 Republican ticket Larry Buendorf Interview, 9–15 Alan Greenspan Interview, 25–26 Leon Parma I Interview, 8 Bill Timmons Interview, 42–43 Phil Jones Interview, 26 Doug Bailey Interview, 30–32 Richard Kaiser Interview, 12, 19–22 Fred Barnes Interview, 12–13 Roderick Hills Interview, 10 James Baker Interview, 11–12 Ron Nessen Interview, 25–27 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 12 Stu Spencer Interview, 42 2000 Republican Convention Susan Ford Bales Interview, 45–46 Jon Nunn Interview, 20–21 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 31–34 30-30 Club William Seale Interview, 21 Harold Bosscher Interview, 1–2 athletic abilities 90th birthday Fred Green Interview, 3 Dick Garbarino Interview, 11–12 Harold Bosscher Interview, 2 George W. Bush Interview, 12 Lee Simmons Interview, 29 Jan Hart Interview, 11 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 22 John Baab Interview, 9–10 Paul Jenkins Interview, 5–6 Jon Nunn Interview, 8–9 autographs Lee Bollinger Interview, 9–10 Ann Cullen Interview, 34–35 Linda Burba Interview, 20 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 23–24 Martin Allen Interview, 43 Frank Lynch Interview, 3 Peter Secchia Interview, 44, 46–47 Greg Ford Interview, 6–7 Seymour Padnos Interview, 18 John Purcell Interview, 7–8 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 56 Jon Nunn Interview, 5, 19 adoption by Gerald Ford, Sr. Kaiser Morcus Interview, 14–15 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 26–28 Lee Simmons Interview, 20–21 Dick Ford Interview, 8–9 Martin Allen Interview, 25–26, 56–58 Harold Bosscher Interview, 11 Penny Circle Interview, 30 Linda Burba Interview, 8–9 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 26 Peter Secchia Interview, 5–6 Shelli Archibald Interview, 2–3 African-Americans Todd Matanich Interview, 6–7 Lee Simmons Interview, 39–40 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 6 airport mural Betty Ford Center David Mehney Interview, 9–11 Lee Simmons Interview, 38 alcohol Peter Secchia Interview, 31–32 Benton Becker Interview, 22–23 Stu Spencer Interview, 96–97 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 22 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 48–49 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 7–8

11 Index Ford, Gerald R. Paul O'Neill Interview, 26–27 Penny Circle Interview, 16 Betty Ford's addiction Peter Secchia Interview, 40–41 Bob Barrett Interview, 13–15 Richard Kaiser Interview, 12–13 Greg Willard Interview, 22-25 Stu Spencer Interview, 84–85 Lee Simmons Interview, 22–23 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 29 Peter Secchia Interview, 4, 29–30 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 16–17 Phil Jones Interview, 27 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 12–13 Bicentennial character traits Rich DeVos Interview, 21–23 Alan Greenspan Interview, 5–6 Brezhnev, Leonid Ann Cullen Interview, 2 Jim Cannon Interview, 2 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 9–10 bribe story Aram Bakshian Interview, 17–18 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 14–15 Betty Monkman Interview, 11–12 Benton Becker Interview, 12–14 Bill Archer Interview, 3–4 Maury DeJonge Interview, 9 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 8–9, 19 Brown, Phyllis Bill Laughlin Interview, 11–12 Penny Circle Interview, 12–13 Bill Timmons Interview, 8–9 budget briefing Bob Barrett Interview, 34–36 Jerry Jones Interview, 32 Bob Michael Interview, 21 John Carlson Interview, 9 Bob Orben Interview, 1–2, 15, 31 Paul O'Neill Interview, 10–11 Bob Schieffer Interview, 8 Cabinet Bonnie Angelo Interview, 17–18 Carla Hills Interview, 13–15, 28 David Frey Interview, 5–6 Dick Cheney Interview, 38-39 David Kennerly Interview, 18 cabinet meetings Dick Garbarino Interview, 28 Carla Hills Interview, 13 Dick Ford Interview, 31 David Matthews Interview, 17–18 Don Penny Interview, 2–3 Martin Allen Interview, 6, 8 Dorothy Downton Interview, 43–45 William Coleman Interview, 10 Frank Carlucci Interview, 7 Calder sculpture Frank Lynch Interview, 3–4, 11 David Frey Interview, 6–7 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 4 campaign style Fred Meijer Interview, 8 Bob Orben Interview, 1 Gary Walters Interview, 39 Cokie Roberts Interview, 11–12 George W. Bush Interview, 4 Doug Bailey Interview, 9–13 Gerald Warren Interview, 29–30 John Knebel Interview, 20, 23–24 Gordon VanderTill Interview, 1 Jon Nunn Interview, 14–15 Greg Willard Interview, 5-6, 30, 42 Lou Cannon Interview, 22–23 Harry Frampton Interview, 3 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 6, 16–17 Henry Haller Interview, 26 Ron Nessen Interview, 31–32 Henry Kissinger Interview, 16–17 James Greenbaum Interview, 8–10 Carter, Jimmy Jim Cannon Interview, 1–2, 25–26 Bob Barrett Interview, 29–31 Jim Trimpe Interview, 1–2 David Frey Interview, 13–14 Joe Sweeney Interview, 4–5 David Matthews Interview, 23–24 John Baab Interview, 8 Dick Ford Interview, 22–23 John Carlson Interview, 1 Don Wilson Interview, 9–10 John Knebel Interview, 1 Dorothy Downton Interview, 38–39, 41 John Paul Stevens Interview, 10 Greg Willard Interview, 30-32, 39 John Purcell Interview, 16 Jan Hart Interview, 13–14 Jon Nunn Interview, 13 Jon Nunn Interview, 10–11 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 5, 17–18 Larry Buendorf Interview, 21–22 Lee Hamilton Interview, 2 Lee Simmons Interview, 29–31 Lee Simmons Interview, 2–3 Lou Cannon Interview, 18 Leon Parma I Interview, 13 Mike Wagner Interview, 25 Lorraine Ornelas Interview, 4, 6–7, 11, 13–14 Paul Jenkins Interview, 9–10 Lou Cannon Interview, 5 Martin Allen Interview, 1–2, 10, 41–43

12 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts Ford, Gerald R. Greg Ford Interview, 23 Hal Bruno Interview, 6–7 Maury DeJonge Interview, 7, 22 Harry Frampton Interview, 8 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 20 Larry Buendorf Interview, 4–5 Paul O'Neill Interview, 7–8 Lee Simmons Interview, 5 Penny Circle Interview, 15, 41–42 Lloyd Carr Interview, 7 Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 6–7 Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 14–15 Peter Cook Interview, 16 Richard Kaiser Interview, 24 Peter Pocklington Interview, 13–14, 28 Robert DuPont Interview, 17–18 Peter Secchia Interview, 6–7, 50–51 Ron Nessen Interview, 17–19 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 11–12 Sandy Weill Interview, 6-7 Rich DeVos Interview, 7 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 14–15 Richard Kaiser Interview, 11–12, 33–34 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 38–39 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 6, 19–20 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 8–9 Robert J. Dole Interview, 2 influence Ron Nessen Interview, 1 Cokie Roberts Interview, 2 Sandy Weill Interview, 3-4 competitiveness Seymour Padnos Interview, 12–13 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 13–14 Strobe Talbott Interview, 8–8 Congressional days Stu Spencer Interview, 24, 99–100 Bill Gill Interview, 15 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 23–24, 27–28 Bill Timmons Interview, 4–10 Todd Matanich Interview, 12–13 Bob Griffin Interview, 5–7 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 16 Cokie Roberts Interview, 1–3 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 9–10 David Frey Interview, 3–5 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 2, 4–5 Gordon VanderTill Interview, 17–18 William Brock Interview, 7 Hank Meijer Interview, 1–2 William Coleman Interview, 17 Lee Hamilton Interview, 1–2 charity work Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 3–4 Bill Laughlin Interview, 14 Peter McPherson Interview, 4-6 Greg Willard Interview, 19-20 Robert J. Dole Interview, 5–6 Harry Frampton Interview, 4–5, 6–7 Seymour Padnos Interview, 4–6 Jan Hart Interview, 1–2 Congressional Gold Medal Lee Simmons Interview, 39 Martin Allen Interview, 31 Paul Jenkins Interview, 3–4 Congressional Hearings on pardon Shelli Archibald Interview, 5 John Logie Interview, 13 Todd Matanich Interview, 7–8 Congressional Medal of Freedom Wayne Hoffman Interview, 9 Martin Allen Interview, 30–31 Chowder & Marching Society Congressional staff Bill Archer Interview, 1–3 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 1–4, 8, 12–13 Mel Laird Interview, 1 Maury DeJonge Interview, 9 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 12–13 Christmas holidays decision making style Tyne Berlanga Interview, 5–6, 15 Birge Watkins Interview, 8 civil rights Carla Hills Interview, 12–13 William Brock Interview, 10–11 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 10–11 Clinton, William J, deregulation Bob Barrett Interview, 32–33 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 29–30 Lee Simmons Interview, 36–37 Chris DeMuth Interview, 5–6 clumsy, perception as David Matthews Interview, 20–21 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 9–10 Ken Lazarus Interview, 17 Bob Goodwin Interview, 9–10 Rich DeVos Interview, 20 Bob Schieffer Interview, 10–11 detente Dick Cheney Interview, 41-42 Strobe Talbott Interview, 4–5 Don Wilson Interview, 15–16 domestic policy Frank Ursomarso Interview, 21–22 Jim Cannon Interview, 5–8 Fred Barnes Interview, 6–7 Peter Wallison Interview, 12–17 Gary Walters Interview, 35 Roderick Hills Interview, 3–8 Douglas, Justice William

13 Index Ford, Gerald R. Bill Bresnahan Interview, 1 Bill Gill Interview, 1 Robert Bork Interview, 5–6 Birge Watkins Interview, 3–6 Dutch influence Bob Barrett Interview, 1–3 David Frey Interview, 1 Bob Goodwin Interview, 5–6 Vern Ehlers Interview, 3-4 Bob Griffin Interview, 1–2 early years Bob Michael Interview, 1 Bob Orben Interview, 17 Bob Schieffer Interview, 1–2 Dick Ford Interview, 6–7, 16–17 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 1 Don Penny Interview, 10–11 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 1 Greg Ford Interview, 1–6 Carla Hills Interview, 1, 7 Harold Bosscher Interview, 2–3 David Kennerly Interview, 1–2 Jim Trimpe Interview, 9 David Matthews Interview, 4–5 Seymour Padnos Interview, 10 David Mehney Interview, 1 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 5–6 Dick Garbarino Interview, 1–2 Vern Ehlers Interview, 5-6 Don Penny Interview, 1–2 early years (closed text) Don Wilson Interview, 1 Martin Allen Interview, 36 Dorothy Downton Interview, 1–2 economic issues Frank Carlucci Interview, 4 Roger Porter Interview, 13–14 Frank Lynch Interview, 1 energy issues Fred Barnes Interview, 1 Alan Greenspan Interview, 17–19 Fred Green Interview, 1 Roger Porter Interview, 12–13 Fred Meijer Interview, 1–2 evolution as president Gordon VanderTill Interview, 2–3 H.P. Goldfield Interview, 5–6, 9–10 Greg Willard Interview, 1-2 Ken Lazarus Interview, 15–16 Guy Swan Interview, 1–3, 6-7 faith, importance of Hal Bruno Interview, 1 Jan Hart Interview, 4 Harry Frampton Interview, 1–3 Mel Laird Interview, 19–20 Henry Kissinger Interview, 1 Rich DeVos Interview, 10–13 H.P. Goldfield Interview, 1 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 24–25 Jack Eck Interview, 1–4 family life Jan Hart Interview, 1–2 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 6, 13–14, 23, 30–31 Joe Sweeney Interview, 3–4 Betty Monkman Interview, 17–20 John Baab Interview, 1 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 12–13 John Engler Interview, 1–2 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 3–5 John Logie Interview, 3 David Kennerly Interview, 35 Jon Nunn Interview, 1 Dick Ford Interview, 13–14 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 1–2 Lee Simmons Interview, 25–26 Ken Lazarus Interview, 1–2 Linda Burba Interview, 1–23 Larry Buendorf Interview, 1–3 Martin Allen Interview, 34, 56 Lee Simmons Interview, 15 Penny Circle Interview, 13–14 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 1 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 17–18 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 1 fashion style Mel Laird Interview, 1 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 6 Paul Jenkins Interview, 1 Dick Garbarino Interview, 22 Penny Circle Interview, 1–3 Don Penny Interview, 14–15 Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 1 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 18 Peter McPherson Interview, 4 Jan Hart Interview, 8 Peter Pocklington Interview, 1–3 Jon Nunn Interview, 29–30 Richard Kaiser Interview, 3–4 Lee Simmons Interview, 18–19 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 1–2 Maury DeJonge Interview, 20 Robert DuPont Interview, 1 Seymour Padnos Interview, 12 Robert J. Dole Interview, 1–2 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 26 Roger Porter Interview, 1–2 first acquaintance with Sam Donaldson Interview, 7 Ann Cullen Interview, 3–5 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 1–2 Benton Becker Interview, 1–3 Todd Matanich Interview, 1 Tom Kauper Interview, 1, 9

14 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts Ford, Gerald R. Guy Swan Interview, 3–6, 7-8 Hal Bruno Interview, 34 Tom Korologos Interview, 1 Harold Bosscher Interview, 12 Vern Ehlers Interview, 1 Harry Frampton Interview, 15 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 1–2 Helen Thomas Interview, 19 fiscal conservative James Greenbaum Interview, 15 Alan Greenspan Interview, 17 Jan Hart Interview, 16–18 Benton Becker Interview, 24 John Carlson Interview, 24–25 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 9–10 John Paul Stevens Interview, 18 Bill Archer Interview, 1 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 16–17 Bob Griffin Interview, 8 Larry Buendorf Interview, 32–-33 Bob Michael Interview, 6 Lee Simmons Interview, 34–35, 44 Carla Hills Interview, 9–10, 21 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 17 Chris DeMuth Interview, 2–4 Lorraine Ornelas Interview, 17–18 David Frey Interview, 14–15 Maria Downs Interview, 30–31 David Matthews Interview, 19 Martin Allen Interview, 60, 71–74 Dorothy Downton Interview, 8–9 Maury DeJonge Interview, 24–25, 28 Fred Meijer Interview, 11–12 Mike Wagner Interview, 15–23 Hank Meijer Interview, 19 Nancy Brinker Interview, 8-9 Jim Cannon Interview, 35 Penny Circle Interview, 40–41 John Baab Interview, 1–3 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 13 John Knebel Interview, 4 Peter Secchia Interview, 41–44 John Purcell Interview, 4–5 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 10–11 Martin Allen Interview, 16–17 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 30–31 Peter Secchia Interview, 7–8 Rod Slifer Interview, 11 Rich DeVos Interview, 16–17 Sandy Weill Interview, 12 Robert J. Dole Interview, 2 Seymour Padnos Interview, 19–20 Roderick Hills Interview, 22 Shelli Archibald Interview, 12–13, 22 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 8–10 Stu Spencer Interview, 98–99 William Coleman Interview, 9 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 52–55, 57 football, interest in Todd Matanich Interview, 11 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 20–21 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 26–28 Harry Frampton Interview, 8–9 Vern Ehlers Interview, 18-19 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 5–6 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 26 Lloyd Carr Interview, 1–11 William Coleman Interview, 19–20 Peter Pocklington Interview, 4 funeral plans Todd Matanich Interview, 8 Ann Cullen Interview, 20 Don Wilson Interview, 15 George W. Bush Interview, 14–15 Fred Meijer Interview, 3 Henry Kissinger Interview, 7–9 Greg Willard Interview, 31–41 Roderick Hills Interview, 11 Guy Swan Interview, 1-5, 7, 8–14 funeral, reactions to Jon Nunn Interview, 10 Ann Cullen Interview, 15–19, 33–34 Lou Cannon Interview, 13 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 19 Martin Allen Interview, 39, 65–66 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 31–32 Mike Wagner Interview, 5, 11–15 David Frey Interview, 17–18 Sam Donaldson Interview, 24 Dick Garbarino Interview, 28–29 Shelli Archibald Interview, 21–22 Dick Ford Interview, 29–30 Girdiron Dinner Don Penny Interview, 29 Bob Orben Interview, 8–9 Don Wilson Interview, 20–21 golf Dorothy Downton Interview, 42–43 Bill Laughlin Interview, 3 Frank Lynch Interview, 18 Fred Green Interview, 2–7 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 39 James Greenbaum Interview, 12 Gary Walters Interview, 38 John Paul Stevens Interview, 15 George W. Bush Interview, 15 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 4–5 Greg Ford Interview, 23–24 Lee Simmons Interview, 6–7 Greg Willard Interview, 32, 36-41 Leon Parma I Interview, 4, 5 Martin Allen Interview, 6–7, 25

15 Index Ford, Gerald R. Tyne Berlanga Interview, 29–30 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 19 Paul Jenkins Interview, 1 ice cream Stu Spencer Interview, 52 Lee Simmons Interview, 1–2 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 21 In&Out Burger Graham, Billy James Greenbaum Interview, 9–10 Jon Nunn Interview, 18 inaugural speech Grand Rapids office Maury DeJonge Interview, 10–11 Maury DeJonge Interview, 10 intelligence grandchildren Aram Bakshian Interview, 29–30 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 22–23 David Matthews Interview, 22–23 Lee Simmons Interview, 25–26 Dick Cheney Interview, 40-41 Shelli Archibald Interview, 7 Don Penny Interview, 4 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 1–31 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 28 Hartmann, Bob Fred Barnes Interview, 5 Dorothy Downton Interview, 18–20 Henry Kissinger Interview, 3 Stu Spencer Interview, 34 Jim Cannon Interview, 2–4 health issues Larry Buendorf Interview, 21 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 7 Lee Simmons Interview, 4–5 George W. Bush Interview, 6–7 Maury DeJonge Interview, 9 Jon Nunn Interview, 15, 20–21 Peter Wallison Interview, 25–26 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 12–13 Richard Kaiser Interview, 24 Lee Simmons Interview, 21–23, 35 Robert Bork Interview, 15 Martin Allen Interview, 51–52, 53, 66 Robert DuPont Interview, 16–17 Penny Circle Interview, 33 Ron Nessen Interview, 37–38 Peter Secchia Interview, 30–31 Stu Spencer Interview, 33, 99–100 Shelli Archibald Interview, 8–9 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 7–8 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 21–23 William Coleman Interview, 10–11 Jerry Ford Invitational Golf Tournament Henry Kissinger Interview, 13 John Purcell Interview, 1–2 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 14-15 Joseph Staufer Interview, 3 Strobe Talbott Interview, 10–12 Johnson, Lyndon B. Mel Laird Interview, 8–9 House Appropriations Committee Alan Greenspan Interview, 9–11 Justice Department humor, sense of H.P. Goldfield Interview, 10–11 Ann Cullen Interview, 1 Justice Stevens appointment Benton Becker Interview, 24–25 Benton Becker Interview, 3–10 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 13–14 John Paul Stevens Interview, 12 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 20 Jon Nunn Interview, 18 Bill Laughlin Interview, 10 Ken Lazarus Interview, 9–10 Bob Barrett Interview, 5–6 Kennedy, John F. Bob Goodwin Interview, 28–29 Lee Simmons Interview, 9–10 Bob Griffin Interview, 17 King, Leslie Bob Orben Interview, 9 Peter Secchia Interview, 5 Bob Schieffer Interview, 3–4 kitchen cabinet David Frey Interview, 15–16 David Mehney Interview, 4 Dick Garbarino Interview, 9 labor unions Dorothy Downton Interview, 9, 36 Roderick Hills Interview, 16–17 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 8–9 latter days James Greenbaum Interview, 11 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 25–27 Paul Jenkins Interview, 1–2 Jack Eck Interview, 10–14, 22–23 Paul O'Neill Interview, 34 Lee Simmons Interview, 41–42 Penny Circle Interview, 10 Lillian Fisher Interview, 19–21 Peter Secchia Interview, 18–19 Robert J. Dole Interview, 19 Richard Kaiser Interview, 32 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 58–59 Sandy Weill Interview, 6 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 20–22 latter years

16 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts Ford, Gerald R. Greg Willard Interview, 7, 16–19 Jon Nunn Interview, 3 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 15–16 Leon Parma I Interview, 5 Dick Cheney Interview, 54-55 Linda Burba Interview, 18–19 Dick Garbarino Interview, 11–12, 25–26 Martin Allen Interview, 12, 52 Frank Lynch Interview, 13 Maury DeJonge Interview, 17–18 Greg Ford Interview, 10–11, 20–21 Peter Secchia Interview, 27 Jan Hart Interview, 14 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 10 Jon Nunn Interview, 20–21, 25–27 Rich DeVos Interview, 26 Larry Buendorf Interview, 26–28 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 16–18, 22 Martin Allen Interview, 45, 66, 70 William Seale Interview, 13–14 Paul Jenkins Interview, 8–9 City aid Penny Circle Interview, 39–40 Alan Greenspan Interview, 20–22 Peter Secchia Interview, 45–46 Carla Hills Interview, 16–18 Rod Slifer Interview, 10–11 Nixon, personal relationship with Shelli Archibald Interview, 10–12 Benton Becker Interview, 25–26, 60 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 49–50 Bill Gill Interview, 17 Todd Matanich Interview, 2, 9–10 Bob Barrett Interview, 25 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 21–22 David Kennerly Interview, 15–17 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 20 Dick Cheney Interview, 20-21 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 21–23 Dick Ford Interview, 15–16 law practice Dorothy Downton Interview, 13 Dick Ford Interview, 11 Gerald Warren Interview, 22–23 (dog) Greg Willard Interview, 26–27 Maria Downs Interview, 12 Lee Simmons Interview, 33 Ron Nessen Interview, 2 Lou Cannon Interview, 12–14 Mao Tse Tung Pat Buchanan Interview, 1 Bob Goodwin Interview, 24–27 Peter Secchia Interview, 13–14 marijuana, decriminalization Susan Ford Bales Interview, 33–34 Robert DuPont Interview, 13 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 29 Martin, Joseph Nixon pardon Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 19–20 McKay, Frank Benton Becker Interview, 39–52, 58–59 Dick Ford Interview, 3 Bill Archer Interview, 17–18, 25–26 Medal of Freedom Bill Gill Interview, 18–19 Ann Cullen Interview, 22 Bill Timmons Interview, 31 Dick Ford Interview, 24 Bob Barrett Interview, 26–27 Penny Circle Interview, 37–38 Bob Michael Interview, 26–27 media, relationship with Bob Schieffer Interview, 5–6 Jon Nunn Interview, 22 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 29–30 Phil Jones Interview, 14, 19–21 Carla Hills Interview, 4 Midwest David Frey Interview, 8–9 Chris DeMuth Interview, 2–4 David Kennerly Interview, 28–30 military service Dick Ford Interview, 18–20 Lee Simmons Interview, 36 Don Penny Interview, 5–6 Paul Jenkins Interview, 2 Dorothy Downton Interview, 26–27 Minority Leader Frank Lynch Interview, 2 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 7–8, 13, 18 Fred Barnes Interview, 2–3 Benton Becker Interview, 2–3 Gerald Warren Interview, 10–11, 32–33 Dorothy Downton Interview, 3–4 Hal Bruno Interview, 23–25 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 4–5 Helen Thomas Interview, 9–12, 18 William Brock Interview, 6–7 Jim Cannon Interview, 18–24 move to Rancho Mirage John Carlson Interview, 15–16 David Frey Interview, 9–10 John Engler Interview, 19–20 David Mehney Interview, 7–8 John Logie Interview, 4-10, 12-13 Dick Ford Interview, 23 John Purcell Interview, 8 Greg Ford Interview, 15-18 Joseph Staufer Interview, 4 Lee Hamilton Interview, 13–14

17 Index Ford, Gerald R. Bob Goodwin Interview, 7, 20–21 Bob Griffin Interview, 10 Leon Parma I Interview, 6 Bob Michael Interview, 18 Linda Burba Interview, 1–2 Bob Schieffer Interview, 4–5, 21, 23 Lou Cannon Interview, 15–16 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 12–15, 19–20 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 13–14, 15–16 Chris Chase Interview, 17–18 Mel Laird Interview, 10–12 Chris DeMuth Interview, 9–10 Pat Buchanan Interview, 12–13, 18 Cokie Roberts Interview, 4–6 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 2–3 David Frey Interview, 9–10 Peter Secchia Interview, 10–12 David Kennerly Interview, 17–18, 20–21, 45 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 5 David Mehney Interview, 13–14 Robert DuPont Interview, 23 Dick Cheney Interview, 20-22, 34-35, 44-45 Robert J. Dole Interview, 9–10 Dick Garbarino Interview, 6–7, 10, 15–17, 22–23 Roger Porter Interview, 10–12 Don Penny Interview, 14–16 Ron Nessen Interview, 14–15 Dorothy Downton Interview, 13–14 Sam Donaldson Interview, 16–17 Doug Bailey Interview, 23–25 Strobe Talbott Interview, 9 Frank Carlucci Interview, 6–7 Stu Spencer Interview, 47, 87 Frank Lynch Interview, 6–9, 15–17 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 19–21 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 8–9, 40–41 Tom Kauper Interview, 16–17 Frank Weston Interview, 14–15 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 13–14 Fred Green Interview, 16–17 Vern Ehlers Interview, 12-13 Gary Walters Interview, 19–21, 41 William Brock Interview, 20 Gordon VanderTill Interview, 9–11 William Coleman Interview, 18 Greg Ford Interview, 7–10, 12–16 Nixon resignation Greg Willard Interview, 12-13, 31-32, 41-42 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 16–17 Hal Bruno Interview, 1–2, 29–30, 32 Bob Michael Interview, 25–26 Harry Frampton Interview, 14–15 Bob Schieffer Interview, 6–7 Henry Haller Interview, 10 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 16 Jack Eck Interview, 15–16 Dick Ford Interview, 16–17, 19 Joe Sweeney Interview, 3 Henry Kissinger Interview, 2–3 John Baab Interview, 12–14 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 13–14 John Carlson Interview, 1–4, 23–24 Leon Parma I Interview, 3 John Purcell Interview, 2–7, 9–10 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 10–11 Joseph Staufer Interview, 11–12 Sam Donaldson Interview, 10 Ken Lazarus Interview, 4, 12–13, 18–19 Nixon staff Larry Buendorf Interview, 16, 17–18, 31 Dorothy Downton Interview, 21–23 Lee Bollinger Interview, 12–13 Jim Cannon Interview, 12 Lee Hamilton Interview, 3 Maria Downs Interview, 7–8 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 26–27 Stu Spencer Interview, 41, 54 Linda Burba Interview, 10–11, 15–16, 22 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 17–18 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 12–14, 20 O'Neill, Tip Lou Cannon Interview, 7 Carla Hills Interview, 24–25 Pat Buchanan Interview, 23–24 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 1 Patrick Butler Interview #1, 14 pep talks, football Paul O'Neill Interview, 14–15 Jon Nunn Interview, 5–7 Peter Pocklington Interview, 10–11, 15–16, 18–19, Martin Allen Interview, 48–50 30–31 Peter Pocklington Interview, 3 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 10, 14 personal stories about Rich DeVos Interview, 21–22 Ann Cullen Interview, 31–32 Richard Kaiser Interview, 1–2, 15–16, 32–33 Betty Monkman Interview, 16, 21–22 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 8–9, 25 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 17–18 Robert J. Dole Interview, 16–17 Bill Archer Interview, 24–25 Roderick Hills Interview, 13–14, 31–32 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 7, 13–14, 27–28 Sandy Weill Interview, 4-5 Bill Gill Interview, 7–8, 20–21 Strobe Talbott Interview, 17–18 Birge Watkins Interview, 13–15 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 14 Bob Barrett Interview, 8–9, 10–11 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 17–18, 27–28, 31–32 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 9–10

18 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts Ford, Gerald R. Wayne Hoffman Interview, 13–14 William Coleman Interview, 15–16 Vern Ehlers Interview, 7-8, 18 post-presidency politics Werner Veit Interview, 6–7 Dick Garbarino Interview, 15 trip Penny Circle Interview, 33–35 post-presidency schedule Polish gaffe Bill Bresnahan Interview, 18–19 Bob Goodwin Interview, 16–18 Bob Barrett Interview, 20–24, 36–37 Bob Schieffer Interview, 17–18 Dick Garbarino Interview, 3–5 Dick Cheney Interview, 42-44 Greg Willard Interview, 16-20, 25-27 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 5–6 Jan Hart Interview, 7–8, 12 Fred Barnes Interview, 22–23 Larry Buendorf Interview, 16–17 Hal Bruno Interview, 30–31 Lee Simmons Interview, 26–27 James Baker Interview, 14–15 Paul O'Neill Interview, 36 Jerry Jones Interview, 33–34 Penny Circle Interview, 4–5, 7–9, 25 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 25–26 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 7, 23–24, 27–29 Leon Parma I Interview, 6 Shelli Archibald Interview, 4–5 Lou Cannon Interview, 23 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 47–48 Richard Kaiser Interview, 28–29 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 5 Roderick Hills Interview, 23 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 18–19 Ron Nessen Interview, 35–37 presidential performance Sam Donaldson Interview, 21 Carla Hills Interview, 10–11, 20–21 Strobe Talbott Interview, 13 Martin Allen Interview, 40–41 Stu Spencer Interview, 85–86 Maury DeJonge Interview, 11 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 26–27 Phil Jones Interview, 18–19 political style presidential style Bob Michael Interview, 2, 5 Benton Becker Interview, 56–57 Lee Hamilton Interview, 5–7 Bill Archer Interview, 7–8 Lou Cannon Interview, 1–3 Bill Timmons Interview, 13 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 7 Carla Hills Interview, 23 Sam Donaldson Interview, 8–10 Chris DeMuth Interview, 10–11 Werner Veit Interview, 1 Dorothy Downton Interview, 11–12, 33–35 Pope John Paul II, meeting with Doug Bailey Interview, 29–30 Leon Parma I Interview, 11 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 19–20, 25–26, 30–33 portrait Greg Willard Interview, 5-6 Maury DeJonge Interview, 13 Jerry Jones Interview, 23–27 post-presidency board appointments Jim Cannon Interview, 11–12, 26–26 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 13–19 John Engler Interview, 18–19, 26–27 Lee Hamilton Interview, 9–10 post-presidency earnings Lou Cannon Interview, 17–18 Bob Barrett Interview, 20–22 Mel Laird Interview, 19–20 Dick Garbarino Interview, 25 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 1-7 Don Wilson Interview, 6–7 Paul O'Neill Interview, 9–10 Greg Willard Interview, 19–20 Peter McPherson Interview, 8-9, 12-13 Larry Buendorf Interview, 18–19 Robert J. Dole Interview, 13–14 Lee Simmons Interview, 40–41 Roderick Hills Interview, 10, 13–15 Martin Allen Interview, 18–19 Sam Donaldson Interview, 12–14 Paul Jenkins Interview, 7–8, 10 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 12, 16, 24–25, 31–32 Penny Circle Interview, 7–9 press conference, August 28 Peter Pocklington Interview, 21 Bob Schieffer Interview, 9 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 15–16 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 25–26 Peter Secchia Interview, 38–39 Gerald Warren Interview, 9–10 Phil Jones Interview, 17–18 Jim Cannon Interview, 18 Rich DeVos Interview, 14–15 John Knebel Interview, 4–5 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 6–7 Lou Cannon Interview, 6–7 Roderick Hills Interview, 29–30 Mel Laird Interview, 10 Sandy Weill Interview, 1-15 Phil Jones Interview, 14–15 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 18–19

19 Index Ford, Gerald R. religion Martin Allen Interview, 22–23 press corps Peter Secchia Interview, 20–21 Bob Schieffer Interview, 2–3 remembrance Jim Cannon Interview, 17–18 Alan Greenspan Interview, 26–-29 John Carlson Interview, 4–5 Ann Cullen Interview, 39 Lou Cannon Interview, 7–8 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 29–30 Maria Downs Interview, 2–3 Aram Bakshian Interview, 33–34 Ron Nessen Interview, 6–7, 16–17 Benton Becker Interview, 61 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 9 Betty Monkman Interview, 21, 24 Profiles in Courage award Bill Archer Interview, 27 Benton Becker Interview, 59–60 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 25–26, 33 Bob Barrett Interview, 27–28 Bill Laughlin Interview, 15–16 Dorothy Downton Interview, 26–27 Birge Watkins Interview, 23 Helen Thomas Interview, 12 Bob Barrett Interview, 34, 37–38 Jon Nunn Interview, 29 Bob Goodwin Interview, 31–32 Lee Simmons Interview, 44–45 Bob Michael Interview, 34 Martin Allen Interview, 29–30 Bob Orben Interview, 29–31 Penny Circle Interview, 27 Bob Schieffer Interview, 24 Peter Secchia Interview, 51 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 39–40 Phil Jones Interview, 15 Carla Hills Interview, 32–33 Roderick Hills Interview, 31 Chris DeMuth Interview, 16–18 Sam Donaldson Interview, 23 Cokie Roberts Interview, 17–20 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 12–13 David Frey Interview, 16–18 Queen Elizabeth David Kennerly Interview, 43–44 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 23 David Matthews Interview, 24–26 Dick Cheney Interview, 34-35 David Mehney Interview, 14–15 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 16 Dick Cheney Interview, 56-57 Peter Secchia Interview, 15–18, 22–23 Dick Garbarino Interview, 27–28 Reagan, Ronald Dick Ford Interview, 23–29 Chris DeMuth Interview, 10 Don Penny Interview, 28–29 Jon Nunn Interview, 9–11 Don Wilson Interview, 21 Lee Simmons Interview, 32 Dorothy Downton Interview, 41–44 Penny Circle Interview, 14–15 Doug Bailey Interview, 33–34 Frank Carlucci Interview, 12 Frank Lynch Interview, 17, 19–20 Reagan challenge Frank Ursomarso Interview, 38, 42 Aram Bakshian Interview, 25–26 Frank Weston Interview, 16 Bob Goodwin Interview, 31 Fred Green Interview, 14–15 Bob Schieffer Interview, 17–18, 19 Fred Meijer Interview, 15–16 David Kennerly Interview, 40–41 Gary Walters Interview, 39 David Matthews Interview, 10 George W. Bush Interview, 14, 17 Dick Cheney Interview, 35-36 Gerald Warren Interview, 32 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 10 Greg Ford Interview, 8–10 Greg Willard Interview, 3–4, 6–7, 30 Greg Willard Interview, 41-42 James Baker Interview, 1–4 Hal Bruno Interview, 35 Jim Cannon Interview, 30–31 Hank Meijer Interview, 21 John Carlson Interview, 17–18 Harold Bosscher Interview, 10 Lou Cannon Interview, 9–10 Harry Frampton Interview, 12–13 Pat Buchanan Interview, 22–23 Henry Haller Interview, 27 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 13-14, 15-17 H.P. Goldfield Interview, 17–18 Roderick Hills Interview, 26 Jack Eck Interview, 25 Reagan funeral James Baker Interview, 19–21 Jon Nunn Interview, 22–23 James Greenbaum Interview, 14 regulatory reform Jan Hart Interview, 16, 20 Roderick Hills Interview, 3–8, 23–26 Jim Cannon Interview, 37 Tom Kauper Interview, 14–15 Jim Trimpe Interview, 7 Joe Sweeney Interview, 19

20 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts Ford, Gerald R. Rockefeller, Happy John Carlson Interview, 26 Greg Willard Interview, 39 John Engler Interview, 29, 31–32 John Knebel Interview, 29–30 Rockefeller, Nelson John Purcell Interview, 15–16 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 33–34 Jon Nunn Interview, 25–27 Lou Cannon Interview, 18 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 16–17 Peter Wallison Interview, 9 Ken Lazarus Interview, 20–21 Phil Jones Interview, 13 Larry Buendorf Interview, 32 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 35–36 Lee Bollinger Interview, 11–12 Lee Hamilton Interview, 19 Rose Garden strategy Lee Simmons Interview, 1 Jerry Jones Interview, 33–35 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 27–28 Peter Secchia Interview, 10 Leon Parma I Interview, 12 Stu Spencer Interview, 22, 50, 90 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 22–23 Lloyd Carr Interview, 9–10 Russell, Kansas 1976 campaign visit Lorraine Ornelas Interview, 17 Bob Dole Interview, 16-17 Lou Cannon Interview, 25–26 Dick Cheney Interview, 44 Maria Downs Interview, 30–31 Greg Willard Interview, 6 Martin Allen Interview, 47 Red Cavaney Interview, 26-27 Marvin DeWinter Interview, 15 Maury DeJonge Interview, 27 Sadat, Anwar funeral Max Friedersdorf Interview, 22–23 Bob Barrett Interview, 29–30 Mel Laird Interview, 23 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 28 Saigon, fall of Paul Jenkins Interview, 16 Aram Bakshian Interview, 31–32 Paul O'Neill Interview, 37 Bill Archer Interview, 18–20 Penny Circle Interview, 40 Bob Schieffer Interview, 13 Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 18 Carla Hills Interview, 22–23 Peter Cook Interview, 12, 15–16 Dorothy Downton Interview, 31–32 Peter Pocklington Interview, 26 Dick Cheney Interview, 52-54 Peter Wallison Interview, 37–38 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 43 Rich DeVos Interview, 28–29 Fred Barnes Interview, 25 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 29–31 Fred Meijer Interview, 9–10 Robert Bork Interview, 19–20 Hal Bruno Interview, 25–26 Robert J. Dole Interview, 19–20 Helen Thomas Interview, 16–17 Rod Slifer Interview, 11 Henry Kissinger Interview, 10–12 Roderick Hills Interview, 32 Jon Nunn Interview, 7–8 Roger Porter Interview, 17–18 Lee Hamilton Interview, 15–17 Ron Nessen Interview, 39 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 18–19 Sam Donaldson Interview, 25 Mel Laird Interview, 21–23 Sandy Weill Interview, 13-14 Phil Jones Interview, 22–23 Seymour Padnos Interview, 18–20 Roderick Hills Interview, 12–13 Shelli Archibald Interview, 17 Ron Nessen Interview, 19–22 Strobe Talbott Interview, 16–17 Sam Donaldson Interview, 18–19 Stu Spencer Interview, 99 Strobe Talbott Interview, 5–6 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 60–61 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 36 Todd Matanich Interview, 14 William Brock Interview, 22 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 30 William Coleman Interview, 17–18 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 26 Schlesinger, James Vern Ehlers Interview, 16-17 Henry Kissinger Interview, 12 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 26–27 Werner Veit Interview, 17 school bussing William Brock Interview, 21 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 20–23 William Coleman Interview, 17 School of Public Policy William Seale Interview, 25–26 Lee Bollinger Interview, 13 Shelli Archibald Interview, 20

21 Index Ford, Gerald R. Fred Barnes Interview, 8 Patrick Butler Interview #1, 6–7, 11–12 Secret Service Patrick Butler Interview #2, 1, 8-10, 13 Lillian Fisher Interview, 23 Paul O'Neill Interview, 16–17 Secret Service relationship Roberta Hartmann Interview, 5 Jon Nunn Interview, 24–25 spokes of the wheel Larry Buendorf Interview, 1–33 Bill Timmons Interview, 29 Richard Kaiser Interview, 15–19 Dick Cheney Interview, 7-8 Todd Matanich Interview, 4–5 Dorothy Downton Interview, 21 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 23–24 Ron Nessen Interview, 10–11 self-discipline Terry O'Donnell Interview, 17 Benton Becker Interview, 23 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 6–7 Bob Barrett Interview, 6–7, 9 staff, personal relations with Dick Ford Interview, 5 Henry Haller Interview, 25–26 skiing Lee Simmons Interview, 17–18 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 10–11 Maria Downs Interview, 20–22 Jack Eck Interview, 4–7 staff, selection of Lorraine Ornelas Interview, 9–10 Fred Barnes Interview, 7 smoking stair falling incident Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 4 Jim Cannon Interview, 4 smoking gun tape Lee Simmons Interview, 5–6 Benton Becker Interview, 27–28 Phil Jones Interview, 34 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 15 Richard Kaiser Interview, 24–25 Jim Cannon Interview, 20 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 3–4 Ron Nessen Interview, 12–13 Ron Nessen Interview, 18 Tom Korologos Interview, 17 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 39 social issues swearing in David Frey Interview, 13 Betty Monkman Interview, 9 Jon Nunn Interview, 12 Bob Michael Interview, 26 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 11–12 Carla Hills Interview, 27–28 Peter Secchia Interview, 33–34 Dorothy Downton Interview, 15–16, 21 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 9–10 Gerald Warren Interview, 1 Seymour Padnos Interview, 16–17 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 14–15 Werner Veit Interview, 13–14 Maria Downs Interview, 6–7 Speaker of House ambition Pat Buchanan Interview, 11–12 Bill Archer Interview, 6–7 Richard Kaiser Interview, 4 Bob Michael Interview, 18–19 Roger Porter Interview, 2–3 Dorothy Downton Interview, 7, 15 Ron Nessen Interview, 8, 13–14 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 7 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 9–10 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 4 Tom Korologos Interview, 20–22 speaking style William Seale Interview, 1–2 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 26 Swine Flu Aram Bakshian Interview, 29 Paul O'Neill Interview, 21–22 Bob Orben Interview, 11, 28 technology Don Penny Interview, 9, 22 Jon Nunn Interview, 28 Jon Nunn Interview, 5–7 Lee Simmons Interview, 4–5 Larry Buendorf Interview, 20 Martin Allen Interview, 4 Martin Allen Interview, 46 Penny Circle Interview, 26–27 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 17 Shelli Archibald Interview, 4 Paul O'Neill Interview, 8 Todd Matanich Interview, 7 Peter Secchia Interview, 9–10 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 4 Stu Spencer Interview, 23 temper Wayne Hoffman Interview, 9 Ann Cullen Interview, 37–38 speechwriting Aram Bakshian Interview, 21 Aram Bakshian Interview, 1–2, 21–23, 27–28 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 11–12 Bob Orben Interview, 3, 18, 27–28 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 9 Dick Cheney Interview, 13-14 Bob Michel Interview, 31

22 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts Ford, Gerald R. Patrick Butler Interview #1, 7–8, 15–16 Paul O'Neill Interview, 7–8, 32 Bob Orben Interview, 16 Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 7–8 David Frey Interview, 16 Richard Kaiser Interview, 29–30 Dick Garbarino Interview, 23 Robert DuPont Interview, 19–20 Dick Ford Interview, 4 Roger Porter Interview, 3–4, 6–7 Don Penny Interview, 11, 20 Ron Nessen Interview, 8–9, 12–13 Dorothy Downton Interview, 36 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 10–11, 15, 17–18 Frank Lynch Interview, 4 William Brock Interview, 15 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 6–7 Fred Green Interview, 4–5 travel, post-presidency Harold Bosscher Interview, 2 Bill Bresnahan Interview, 29–31 Jack Eck Interview, 9 Greg Willard Interview, 16-20, 25-27 James Greenbaum Interview, 11 Lee Simmons Interview, 19–20 John Knebel Interview, 19 Lee Simmons Interview, 3–4 traveling staff Martin Allen Interview, 3, 45–46 Jon Nunn Interview, 24–25 Maury DeJonge Interview, 8–9 Tulane speech Paul Jenkins Interview, 1 Ron Nessen Interview, 7–8 Paul O'Neill Interview, 11–12 Penny Circle Interview, 42 University of Peter Pocklington Interview, 11–12 Dick Ford Interview, 10 Richard Kaiser Interview, 2–3 Lee Bollinger Interview, 1–2 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 4–5 Lloyd Carr Interview, 1–4 Roderick Hills Interview, 15 Martin Allen Interview, 17 Sandy Weill Interview, 7 Shelli Archibald Interview, 20–21 Shelli Archibald Interview, 18–19 Todd Matanich Interview, 8 Stu Spencer Interview, 53–54 USS Monterey Susan Ford Bales Interview, 16–17 Frank Weston Interview, 1–2, 6–7 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 9–12 John Fifer Interview, 7–8 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 5–6 Vail/Beaver Creek, Colorado Vern Ehlers Interview, 8-9 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 1–22 testimony before Congress Bill Bresnahan Interview, 32 Bill Timmons Interview, 32–33 Carla Hills Interview, 26 transition to White House David Kennerly Interview, 3–4 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 16–17, 19 Dick Garbarino Interview, 1–5 Aram Bakshian Interview, 2, 26–27 Fred Green Interview, 7 Benton Becker Interview, 17–18 Greg Ford Interview, 21–22 Bill Timmons Interview, 23, 30–31 Jan Hart Interview, 10–11 Bob Goodwin Interview, 8 John Carlson Interview, 3–4 Bob Griffin Interview, 13–14 Larry Buendorf Interview, 22–24 Carla Hills Interview, 5–6 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 1–23 David Kennerly Interview, 22–24 Paul Jenkins Interview, 15–16 Dick Cheney Interview, 10-14 Rod Slifer Interview, 2–3 Dorothy Downton Interview, 21–25 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 10 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 2–3 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 21–22 Henry Kissinger Interview, 4–5, 6 Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 6–7 H.P. Goldfield Interview, 2–4 vice president Jerry Jones Interview, 17–18 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 15 Jim Cannon Interview, 12–13, 14 Aram Bakshian Interview, 13 John Carlson Interview, 14 Benton Becker Interview, 18–19, 25–26 Ken Lazarus Interview, 2–4 Bill Timmons Interview, 22–23 Lee Hamilton Interview, 12–13 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 9–11 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 15–18 David Kennerly Interview, 2–7 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 4–6, 11–13 Dick Ford Interview, 18 Mel Laird Interview, 15–16 Fred Barnes Interview, 3–5 Pat Buchanan Interview, 12–15 Gerald Warren Interview, 12 Helen Thomas Interview, 5–6

23 Index Ford, Gerald R. Dorothy Downton Interview, 14–15 Lee Hamilton Interview, 11 Alan Greenspan Interview, 6–7, 13 Patrick Butler Interview #1, 9–10 Carla Hills Interview, 21–22 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 1 Peter Secchia Interview, 10 Peter Secchia Interview, 31 World Forum Phil Jones Interview, 10–12, 19 Chris DeMuth Interview, 4–5, 11–15 Rich DeVos Interview, 9–10 Dick Garbarino Interview, 17 Ron Nessen Interview, 12–13 Peter Pocklington Interview, 19–20 Tom Korologos Interview, 12–13 Roderick Hills Interview, 30 William Brock Interview, 16–19, 18–19 vice president, Ford's choice for World War II Dick Cheney Interview, 24-25, 45-47 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 5–7 Gerald Warren Interview, 18–19 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 18–19 Ford, Gerald and Betty Patrick Butler Interview #2, 22-26 entertainment choices Roger Porter Interview, 14–15 Greg Willard Interview, 18-19 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 2–3, 21–22 Jan Hart Interview, 9–10 vice president, selection as faith, importance of Benton Becker Interview, 11–12, 12–14, 19–21 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 19–21 Bill Archer Interview, 16 fashion style Bill Timmons Interview, 21–22 Dick Garbarino Interview, 8–9 Bob Michael Interview, 22 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 1–4 funeral plans David Mehney Interview, 4–6 Ann Cullen Interview, 33 Dorothy Downton Interview, 17–18 Dick Ford Interview, 27 Jim Cannon Interview, 4 Greg Willard Interview, 31-41 Mel Laird Interview, 14–15 Guy Swan Interview, 3, 7 Pat Buchanan Interview, 6–7 Martin Allen Interview, 53–54 Sam Donaldson Interview, 6–7 Maury DeJonge Interview, 23 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 31–32 Mike Wagner Interview, 14-15, 18, 25 Tom Korologos Interview, 15–16 as grandparents Vietnam Ann Cullen Interview, 30–31 Henry Kissinger Interview, 9–10 Dick Garbarino Interview, 17–19 Lou Cannon Interview, 14–16 Jan Hart Interview, 6–7 Mel Laird Interview, 8–9 relationship Vietnamese refugees aid Dick Garbarino Interview, 13–14 Paul O'Neill Interview, 17–19 Dick Ford Interview, 12–13 Ron Nessen Interview, 22–23 James Greenbaum Interview, 15–16 Vladivostok Jon Nunn Interview, 3–4, 13–14 Bob Goodwin Interview, 29–31 Lee Simmons Interview, 22–24 Henry Kissinger Interview, 12–13 Lorraine Ornelas Interview, 5, 11 Ward, Willis Martin Allen Interview, 33, 61–62, 69, 70–71 Bill Gill Interview, 14 Maury DeJonge Interview, 14–15 Peter Secchia Interview, 28–29, 31–32 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 6–7, 12 Phil Jones Interview, 27–28 Bob Michael Interview, 10–11 Ron Nessen Interview, 30–31 Cokie Roberts Interview, 7–9 Seymour Padnos Interview, 8–9 Dick Ford Interview, 15 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 25–26 Helen Thomas Interview, 13 Todd Matanich Interview, 12 Martin Allen Interview, 60–61 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 20 Peter Pocklington Interview, 8–9 relationship (closed text) William Brock Interview, 9–10 Martin Allen Interview, 32–33, 69 William Coleman Interview, 2, 5–6 Vail/Beaver Creek, Colorado Watergate Kaiser Morcus Interview, 11 Benton Becker Interview, 27–32 Ford, Gerald, Sr. Bob Michael Interview, 24–25 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 26–28 Ford, Gerald Sr.

24 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Gordon VanderTill Interview, 6–7 transition to White House Martin Allen Interview, 11–12 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 36–39, 43–44 character traits Ford, Tom Dick Ford Interview, 1–2 Gordon VanderTill Interview, 16 Maury DeJonge Interview, 4 Martin Allen Interview, 11 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 4 Ford brothers Depression years Linda Burba Interview, 16–18 Dick Ford Interview, 7–8 Ford Commemorative Committee Dick Ford Interview, 25–26 family life Ford Museum Linda Burba Interview, 4–5 Dick Ford Interview, 24–25 Grand Rapids Wood Finishing Martin Allen Interview, 13–14, 67 Dick Ford Interview, 7–8 Peter Secchia Interview, 47–48 politics building sites Dick Ford Interview, 2–3 Dick Ford Interview, 34 Maury DeJonge Interview, 4 Greg Willard Interview, 20-22 Seymour Padnos Interview, 4 Maury DeJonge Interview, 23 Ford, Greg Interview Peter Secchia Interview, 47–48 re-dedication Ford, Jack Martin Allen Interview, 60 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 23 Penny Circle Interview, 29 Birge Watkins Interview, 18–19 Ford Workshop in Politics Peter Secchia Interview, 22 Gordon VanderTill Interview, 2 Stu Spencer Interview, 56–57, 59–60 Foreman, Ed Maury DeJonge Interview, 22 William Brock Interview, 1 Frampton, Harry Interview Ford, Mike Frank, Ruben Anne Holkeboer Interview, 23 Ron Nessen Interview, 14 Dick Ford Interview, 28 Frankfurter, Justice Felix William Coleman Interview, 1 Ford, Steve Frey, David Interview Anne Holkeboer Interview, 23 Friedersdorf, Max Interview David Mehney Interview, 3–4 Friedman, Milt Lee Simmons Interview, 24 Bob Orben Interview, 18 Martin Allen Interview, 56 Fromme, Squeaky Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 17–18 Leon Parma I Interview, 8 Phil Jones Interview, 29–30 Ron Nessen Interview, 25–27 Shelli Archibald Interview, 6–7 Stu Spencer Interview, 42 Stu Spencer Interview, 56–57 Fry, Lou Stu Spencer Interview, 49 Ford, Susan Fuel efficiency standards Anne Holkeboer Interview, 23, 31 William Coleman Interview, 8 Betty Monkman Interview, 17–18, 22 Greg Willard Interview, 8, 11-12, 25-26, 41 Henry Haller Interview, 11 G Lee Simmons Interview, 24–25 Garagiola, Joe Maria Downs Interview, 12–13 Stu Spencer Interview, 91–92 Nancy Brinker Interview, 13 Garbarino, Dick Interview Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 1–2 Gerald Ford Foundation Shelli Archibald Interview, 23 Martin Allen Interview, 22 Stu Spencer Interview, 59–60 Gerald R. Ford Commemorative Committee Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 1–22 Joe Sweeney Interview, 1–2 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 21 Gerald R. Ford Foundation adolescence years Don Wilson Interview, 13–14 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 14 John Baab Interview, 1–8 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 22, 30–31, 35–36 Gerald R. Ford Library and Museum childhood years David Frey Interview, 10–11 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 11–16 David Mehney Interview, 12–13, 16–17

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Don Wilson Interview, 5–6, 11–12 Depression years Fred Meijer Interview, 2–7, 10–13 Peter Cook Interview, 4 Greg Willard Interview, 20–22 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 6–7 Joe Sweeney Interview, 1–21 Rich DeVos Interview, 4–5 John Baab Interview, 5–6 downtown revitalization Linda Burba Interview, 19 Hank Meijer Interview, 16–17 Martin Allen Interview, 13–14, 20 Marvin DeWinter Interview, 13 25th Anniversary Rich DeVos Interview, 24–25 Rich DeVos Interview, 26–27 Werner Veit Interview, 16 high school cultures architect, selection of Rich DeVos Interview, 3–4 Marvin DeWinter Interview, 1–16 Island Park design of Peter Cook Interview, 2 Joe Sweeney Interview, 5–6, 13–17 mid-century culture Marvin DeWinter Interview, 2–10 David Frey Interview, 2–3 separation of library and museum Hank Meijer Interview, 1–2 Joe Sweeney Interview, 2–3 Rich DeVos Interview, 1–7 site selection military base David Frey Interview, 11–12 Maury DeJonge Interview, 6 David Mehney Interview, 15–16 pre-downtown revitalization Greg Ford Interview, 18–19 Bill Gill Interview, 4–6 Joe Sweeney Interview, 8–13 reaction to Fords move to Rancho Mirage Marvin DeWinter Interview, 1–2 David Frey Interview, 9–10 Rich DeVos Interview, 24 Maury DeJonge Interview, 17–18 Grand Rapids Press Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy Maury DeJonge Interview, 2 Paul O'Neill Interview, 25–26 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 4 Gergen, David Granholm, Governor Patrick Butler Interview #2, 8-10 Martin Allen Interview, 44 Bob Orben Interview, 22 Green, Fred Interview Gill, Bill Greenbaum, James Maury DeJonge Interview, 21 James Greenbaum Interview Gill, Bill Interview Greenburg Commission Gillett, Dick John Paul Stevens Interview, 4, 5 Martin Allen Interview, 67–69 Greenspan, Alan Goble & Brown Council of Economic Advisors Jim Trimpe Interview, 4 Alan Greenspan Interview, 1–7 Goebel, Paul economic indicators Maury DeJonge Interview, 1, 3 Alan Greenspan Interview, 14–16 Goldfield, H.P. Interview gold policy Goldwater, Barry Alan Greenspan Interview, 9–11 Bob Orben Interview, 5 Greenspan, Alan Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 9–10, 14 Gregg, Jim William Brock Interview, 1–4, 4 John Paul Stevens Interview, 15 Goodwin, Bob Interview Gregory, Dick Gore, Louise Bob Orben Interview, 5 Sam Donaldson Interview, 5–6 Stu Spencer Interview, 14 Graham, Billy Gridiron Dinner Jon Nunn Interview, 18 Bob Orben Interview, 8–9 Martin Allen Interview, 21, 23 Griffin, Bob Grain embargo Dick Ford Interview, 25 John Knebel Interview, 17–18 Martin Allen Interview, 22 Grand Rapids Herald Max Friedersdorf Interview, 1–2 Maury DeJonge Interview, 17 Peter Secchia Interview, 36, 37 Grand Rapids, Michigan Griffin, Bob Interview culture Linda Burba Interview, 5–7 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 12–14

26 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts H David Kennerly Interview, 11–13 Dick Cheney Interview, 10-11, 15-17 Don Penny Interview, 7–9, 23–24 Habitat for Humanity Dorothy Downton Interview, 18–20 Peter Secchia Interview, 39 Frank Ursomarso Interview, 2–4 Haig, Al Fred Barnes Interview, 7–8 Aram Bakshian Interview, 22–23 Gordon VanderTill Interview, 26–27 Carla Hills Interview, 6 Jim Cannon Interview, 15–17 Dick Cheney Interview, 9-10 John Carlson Interview, 20–21 Dorothy Downton Interview, 23–24 John Knebel Interview, 27 Jerry Jones Interview, 9–10, 11–16 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 11–13 Jim Cannon Interview, 15, 19–20 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 11–12 Leon Parma I Interview, 3 Pat Buchanan Interview, 9, 17–18 Pat Buchanan Interview, 15–16 Patrick Butler Interview #1, 1–6, 12–13 Nixon tapes Patrick Butler Interview #2, 1 Benton Becker Interview, 34–39 Paul O'Neill Interview, 15–16 Pat Buchanan Interview, 18–19 Peter McPherson Interview, 10-11 records, presidential Phil Jones Interview, 24–25 Benton Becker Interview, 52–53 Roger Porter Interview, 4–5 Haldeman, H.R. Ron Nessen Interview, 8–9, 16 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 2–3, 7 Stu Spencer Interview, 34, 90 William Brock Interview, 16 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 17 Halleck, Charles Al Haig Bob Griffin Interview, 3 Roberta Hartmann Interview, 3, 9 Bob Michael Interview, 12–14 Dick Cheney Lee Hamilton Interview, 1–2 Roberta Hartmann Interview, 10 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 3–4 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 1–2 Roberta Hartmann Interview, 10 Mel Laird Interview, 4–5 first acquaintance with Robert J. Dole Interview, 4–5 Roberta Hartmann Interview, 3–4 Sam Donaldson Interview, 7 Nixon resignation Minority Leader Leon Parma I Interview, 3 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 7–8 as polarizing influence Leon Parma I Interview, 2 Bill Timmons Interview, 28–29 William Brock Interview, 2, 5–9 Ron Nessen Interview, 9–10 Haller, Henry Interview swearing in Hamilton, Lee Interview Roberta Hartmann Interview, 7 Hamlin, Bill writing style Penny Circle Interview, 23 Bob Orben Interview, 13–14, 20 Hamlisch, Marvin Hartmann, Roberta Interview Peter Secchia Interview, 50 Hatfield, Mark Hanlon, Bill and Sally Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 13 Harlow, Bryce Hayes, Woody Bill Timmons Interview, 10–11 Martin Allen Interview, 50–51 Jerry Jones Interview, 28–29 Haynesworth and Carswell Jim Cannon Interview, 22 Benton Becker Interview, 3–6 Stu Spencer Interview, 26, 35, 61 Pat Buchanan Interview, 2–3 Harris, Phil Hays, Wayne Leon Parma I Interview, 5 Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 4 Hart, Jan Interview Hazelton Hart, Sen. Gary Schwartlose/West Interview, 3–4 Dick Ford Interview, 26 Head, Howard Hartmann, Bob John Carlson Interview, 3 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 18 Health, Education, Welfare, Department of Aram Bakshian Interview, 21–23 David Matthews Interview, 7–13, 28–29 Benton Becker Interview, 37–38 Heinz, John Bob Orben Interview, 11–12, 19 Stu Spencer Interview, 39–40 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 9 Helms, Jesse

27 Index

Max Friedersdorf Interview, 18 Bob Michael Interview, 19–20 Stu Spencer Interview, 72 Houseman Field Helsinki Accords Peter Cook Interview, 6 Henry Kissinger Interview, 13 Housing and Community Development Act of 1974 Lee Hamilton Interview, 18 Carla Hills Interview, 8–9 Roderick Hills Interview, 22–23 Hruska, Roman Ron Nessen Interview, 36 John Paul Stevens Interview, 10 Strobe Talbott Interview, 10–12 William Brock Interview, 12 Hesburgh, Father HUD Martin Allen Interview, 21 Carla Hills Interview, 7–8, 27 Hiestand, Ed Hughes, Howard Stu Spencer Interview, 6 Sam Donaldson Interview, 2 Hillings, Pat Humphrey, Hubert Stu Spencer Interview, 3, 4, 28–29 John Knebel Interview, 11–12 Hills, Carla Max Friedersdorf Interview, 15 Carla Hills Interview, 7–8, 27 Hunt, Howard Martin Allen Interview, 42 Tom Korologos Interview, 2 Paul O'Neill Interview, 20–21 Hunter, Maggie Roderick Hills Interview, 1–2 Ron Nessen Interview, 6 William Coleman Interview, 10, 16 Hushen, Jack Hills, Carla Interview Ron Nessen Interview, 16 Hills, Roderick Interview Hinman, George Stu Spencer Interview, 10, 16 I Hoeven, Charlie I-66 Mel Laird Interview, 5–6 William Coleman Interview, 8 Hoffius, Stuart In & Out Burger Maury DeJonge Interview, 15 James Greenbaum Interview, 9–10 Hoffman, Wayne Inaugural speech Penny Circle Interview, 23 Maury DeJonge Interview, 10–11 Hoffman, Wayne Interview Integration/segregation Holkeboer, Anna David Matthews Interview, 10 Maury DeJonge Interview, 9. see also, Kampstra, HEW, role of Anna David Matthews Interview, 7–13 Holkeboer, Anne InterAction Council Anne Holkeboer Interview Bill Laughlin Interview, 5–6 Holtzman, Elizabeth Interstate Highway System Bill Timmons Interview, 9 William Coleman Interview, 7–8 Peter Abbruzzese Interview, 5–6 Isaacs, Ted Home Front John Paul Stevens Interview, 5 Maury DeJonge Interview, 1 It Sure Looks Different from the Inside Hondorp, Mary Ann Ron Nessen Interview, 16 Dick Ford Interview, 10 IT&T anti-trust cases Harold Bosscher Interview, 4 Tom Kauper Interview, 10–14 Hope, Bob Ann Cullen Interview, 26 James Greenbaum Interview, 13 J Jan Hart Interview, 8–9 Javits, Sen. Jacob Lee Simmons Interview, 6–7 Peter Secchia Interview, 2 Leon Parma I Interview, 4, 5 Jaworski, Leon Martin Allen Interview, 63–64 Benton Becker Interview, 55–56 Paul Jenkins Interview, 2–3 Mel Laird Interview, 11–12 Penny Circle Interview, 23, 24–25 Jenkins, Paul Todd Matanich Interview, 3 Penny Circle Interview, 23 Hormuth, John Jenkins, Paul Interview Maury DeJonge Interview, 17 JFK movie House of Representatives Cokie Roberts Interview, 7–9 Bill Archer Interview, 11 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 15–16

28 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 11–12 Maury DeJonge Interview, 9. John Birch Society see also, Holkeboer, Anna Stu Spencer Interview, 4–6, 9 Kamstra, Anne Johnson, Hiram Dorothy Downton Interview, 6 Stu Spencer Interview, 1 Kauper, Tom Interview Kawasaki Johnson, Lady Bird David Mehney Interview, 1–3 Betty Monkman Interview, 3–4 Kaye, Peter Cokie Roberts Interview, 13–14 Stu Spencer Interview, 37 Greg Willard Interview, 25-26 Keaton, Dean Martin Allen Interview, 59–60 Harry Frampton Interview, 3–4 Werner Veit Interview, 17–18 Keeler, Mary Ann Johnson, Lyndon B. Dick Ford Interview, 25 Jim Cannon Interview, 4 Joe Sweeney Interview, 6–7 Lee Simmons Interview, 10–11 Peter Secchia Interview, 48 Paul O'Neill Interview, 3–4 Kaiser, Richard Interview Ron Nessen Interview Kelvinator plant William Brock Interview, 9 Peter Cook Interview, 5 civil rights issues Kennedy, Caroline William Coleman Interview, 4–5 Martin Allen Interview, 60 comment about Gerald Ford Kennedy, John F. Anne Holkeboer Interview, 7 Benton Becker Interview, 25 Dick Ford Interview, 9 Paul O'Neill Interview, 2–3 Dorothy Downton Interview, 9 Stu Spencer Interview, 9 William Coleman Interview, 10–11 assassination Johnson, Wally Helen Thomas Interview, 13 Tom Korologos Interview, 2 Lee Simmons Interview, 9–10 Jones, Candy funeral plans Bob Orben Interview, 17 Mike Wagner Interview, 6–7 Jones, Doris visit to Grand Rapids, Iowa Stu Spencer Interview, 68 Maury DeJonge Interview, 25 Kennedy, Robert Jones, Jerry Leon Parma 2 Interview, 8–9 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 10 Kennedy Library Sam Donaldson Interview, 2 Helen Thomas Interview, 12 William Brock Interview, 15–16 Maury DeJonge Interview, 7 Jones, Jerry Interview Kennerly, David Jones, Phil Bob Schieffer Interview, 3 Ron Nessen Interview, 6 Don Penny Interview, 1–2, 18–19 Jones, Phil Interview Dorothy Downton Interview, 32–33 Phil Jones Interview Frank Ursomarso Interview, 13–14 Jonkman, Bartel Greg Willard Interview, 9, 39 Dick Ford Interview, 3 Leon Parma I Interview, 10 Harold Bosscher Interview, 6 Paul O'Neill Interview, 33 Maury DeJonge Interview, 1 Penny Circle Interview, 22 Seymour Padnos Interview, 5, 7 Ron Nessen Interview, 7–8, 20–21 Joslin, Leon Kennerly, David Interview Harold Bosscher Interview, 11–12 Kent County Republican Committee Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives Maury DeJonge Interview, 4 monopoly power of Kerkorian, Kirk John Paul Stevens Interview, 4 Penny Circle Interview, 23 Justice Department Kilberg, Bobbie Interview Civil Division Kilmer, Ruth Carla Hills Interview, 5–6 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 4 King, Leslie Harold Bosscher Interview, 11 K Peter Secchia Interview, 5 Kampstra, Anna Kissinger, Henry

29 Index

Bob Orben Interview, 21–22 Lazarus, Ken Interview Bob Schieffer Interview, 14 Leach, Jim Frank Carlucci Interview, 2–3, 8–9 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 9, 28 James Baker Interview, 8–9 Martin Allen Interview, 7–8, 42, 71 John Carlson Interview, 22–23 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 15 Left Bank Restaurant Penny Circle Interview, 34–35 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 2–3 Ron Nessen Interview, 21–22 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 1–23 Strobe Talbott Interview, 1–2 Leonard, Mildred Stu Spencer Interview, 3, 85–86 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 3, 24 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 19–20 Dorothy Downton Interview, 4 William Coleman Interview, 11 Lesinski, T. John Kissinger, Henry Interview Maury DeJonge Interview, 26 Klein, Herb Levi, Ed Stu Spencer Interview, 69–70 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 23–24 Kleindienst, Richard Carla Hills Interview, 14 Tom Kauper Interview, 9–10 Ken Lazarus Interview, 18–19 Kleppe, Tom Robert Bork Interview, 13–14 John Knebel Interview, 13–14 Roderick Hills Interview, 6–7, 17 Knebel, John Interview Terry O'Donnell Interview, 13 Knight, Goody Tom Kauper Interview, 17–20 Stu Spencer Interview, 6–7, 9 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 9–12 Knowland, Bill William Coleman Interview, 9 Stu Spencer Interview, 8–9 Lewis, Drew Korff, Rabbi Stu Spencer Interview, 74 Tom Korologos Interview, 17–18 Liddy, Gordon Korologos, Tom Benton Becker Interview, 29 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 10 Jon Nunn Interview, 13 Korologos, Tom Interview Sam Donaldson Interview, 2 Korologos, Tom Interview #2 Stu Spencer Interview, 70 Krogh, Bud Liddy, Gordon (closed text) Robert DuPont Interview, 8–9 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 8 Kuchel, Tom Lieberg, Pres Stu Spencer Interview, 6–8, 10, 16 Stu Spencer Interview, 5 Kuhn, Bowie Littlefair, Duncan Stu Spencer Interview, 92 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 8–9 Kuwait invasion John Logie Interview, 7-8 William Coleman Interview, 12–13 Lloyd, Mike Maury DeJonge Interview, 23–24 Long, Senator Russell L Tom Korologos Interview #2, 3–5 Laird, Mel Lukash, Dr. Anne Holkeboer Interview, 11 Bob Orben Interview, 23 Benton Becker Interview, 55 Peter Secchia Interview, 4 Bill Archer Interview, 18–19 Lynch, Mr. and Mrs. Frank Interview Bill Timmons Interview, 24–25 Lynn, Jim Max Friedersdorf Interview, 1–2, 9 Carla Hills Interview, 12 Robert J. Dole Interview, 4 Paul O'Neill Interview, 19–20 Stu Spencer Interview, 39 William Coleman Interview, 10 Tom Korologos Interview, 14–15 Ford campaign Stu Spencer Interview, 26, 36, 61 M With Honor MacDougall, Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Stu Spencer Interview, 89 Young Turks Magruder, Jeff Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Betty Monkman Interview, 8 Laird, Mel Interview Sam Donaldson Interview, 2 Laughlin, Bill Interview Mahder, Ruth

30 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Dorothy Downton Interview, 2 Purple Gang Mardian, Bob Maury DeJonge Interview, 1 Stu Spencer Interview, 68–69 McKee, Pat Marntz, Henry Jim Cannon Interview, 13 Seymour Padnos Interview, 4 McLaughlin, Father John Marsh, Jack Bob Orben Interview, 22 Stu Spencer Interview, 56 Ron Nessen Interview, 9 Ford campaign McNamara, Robert Stu Spencer Interview, 61 Bill Laughlin Interview, 5–6 Marshall, Thurgood Mehney, David Interview William Coleman Interview, 1–2, 5, 16 Meijer, Fred Martin, Graham Dick Ford Interview, 25 Ron Nessen Interview, 21 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 8 Martin, Joseph Meijer, Fred Interview Bob Michael Interview, 3–4 Meijer, Hank Interview Leon Parma 2 Interview, 2–3 Meir, Golda Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 10 Mel Laird Interview, 4–5 Messersmith, Neta Matheson, Don Dorothy Downton Interview, 18 Dick Ford Interview, 25 Meyer, Frank Matthews, David Interview Anne Holkeboer Interview, 2, 12–13 Mattieu, Tom Dorothy Downton Interview, 2–8 Peter Secchia Interview, 47 Gordon VanderTill Interview, 4 Matanich, Todd Meyer, Liz and Luc Interview Todd Matanich Interview Michel, Bob Mayaguez Bill Archer Interview, 8 Alan Greenspan Interview, 14 Stu Spencer Interview, 26 Mayer, Louie B. Michel, Bob Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 2 Mazda dealerships Military District of Washington Peter Cook Interview, 13–14 Greg Willard Interview, 32-35 McCain, Admiral Guy Swan Interview, 1-14 Peter Cook Interview, 7–8 Mike Wagner Interview, 1–28 McCain, John Miller, Jack as prisoner of war Benton Becker Interview, 39, 47–52 Peter Cook Interview, 7–8 Mills, Jack McCallum Theater Stu Spencer Interview, 26 Jan Hart Interview, 1–2 Miltich, Paul McConnell, John Anne Holkeboer Interview, 8 Dick Cheney Interview, 56 Phil Jones Interview, 25 McCormick, John Seymour Padnos Interview, 4 Bob Michael Interview, 15 Minority Leader Dorothy Downton Interview, 7 Halleck, Charles McCullough, David Leon Parma I Interview, 2 Penny Circle Interview, 28 Martin, Joseph McGee, Siki Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Jim Trimpe Interview, 8 Mitchell, John Peter Cook Interview, 3, 10 Benton Becker Interview, 30 McIneruy, Kay Max Friedersdorf Interview, 7 Dick Ford Interview, 25 Sam Donaldson Interview, 2–3 McKay, Frank Tom Kauper Interview, 1–2 Dick Ford Interview, 2–3 William Brock Interview, 17 Hank Meijer Interview, 4, 14–16 Monkman, Betty Interview Maury DeJonge Interview, 1 Moore, Sara Jane Peter Cook Interview, 6–7 Bob Orben Interview, 30 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 1, 5–6 Morcus, Kaiser Seymour Padnos Interview, 3–4 Interview Werner Veit Interview, 2–3 Kaiser Morcus Interview

31 Index

Morgenstern, Carl Maria Downs Interview, 5–6 Dick Ford Interview, 25 campaign management Martin Allen Interview, 15 Stu Spencer Interview, 66 Morton, Rogers William Brock Interview, 17–18 Leon Parma I Interview, 8 character traits Stu Spencer Interview, 43–44, 83–84 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 18–19 Mote, Walter Richard Kaiser Interview, 6–7, 8 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 16 China, 1974 trip Mudge, Jim David Kennerly Interview, 15–17 Maury DeJonge Interview, 17 China trip Mullen, Robert R. Lou Cannon Interview, 11–12 Tom Korologos Interview, 2 Stu Spencer Interview, 45–46 Murray, Jim congressional district Stu Spencer Interview, 92 Stu Spencer Interview, 3 Congressional leadership, relationship with Pat Buchanan Interview, 1 N deed of gift NAFTA Benton Becker Interview, 39–52, 57 Penny Circle Interview, 38 domestic policy National Alliance of Businessess Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 2–4 Martin Allen Interview, 9 trip National Institute on Drug Abuse Richard Kaiser Interview, 5–6 Robert DuPont Interview, 9–11 final departure Naughton, Jimmy Gerald Warren Interview, 5 Stu Spencer Interview, 96 Helen Thomas Interview, 8 Nessen, Ron Henry Haller Interview, 5–6 as press secretary Lee Simmons Interview, 14 John Carlson Interview, 18 Ron Nessen Interview, 13–14 Ron Nessen Interview, 17 Sam Donaldson Interview, 10–11 Ford as vice president David Kennerly Interview, 14 Helen Thomas Interview, 5–6 John Carlson Interview, 19 funeral Phil Jones Interview, 25–26 Lee Simmons Interview, 33–34 Ron Nessen Interview, 19 hospitalization Nessen, Ron Interview Bob Orben Interview, 23 aid Hughes, Howard Alan Greenspan Interview, 20–22 Sam Donaldson Interview, 2 Carla Hills Interview, 16–18 impeachment proceedings Nicklaus, Jack Benton Becker Interview, 27–28 Martin Allen Interview, 25 Kuchel, Tom Peter Secchia Interview, 44 Stu Spencer Interview, 8 Nixon, Patricia Nixon, Pat funeral Aram Bakshian Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 67–68 Betty Monkman Interview, 4–5 obstruction of justice Bonnie Angelo Interview, 19–21 Benton Becker Interview, 33–35, 45–46 Helen Thomas Interview, 4–5 opinion of Ford Henry Haller Interview, 4–5 Aram Bakshian Interview, 9 Lee Simmons Interview, 11–15 paranoia Nixon, Richard Sam Donaldson Interview, 2 1962 Campaign for Governor of , 8 Stu Spencer Interview, 65 1972 election pardon John Engler Interview, 16–17 Benton Becker Interview, 39–52 alcohol David Kennerly Interview, 28–30 Aram Bakshian Interview, 11–12 Dick Cheney Interview, 19 Gerald Warren Interview, 17–18 Helen Thomas Interview, 9–12 Ash Council Henry Kissinger Interview, 16 Peter Wallison Interview, 1–3 John Logie Interview, 4-10, 12-13 assassination attempts Leon Parma I Interview, 6

32 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Lou Cannon Interview, 15–16 Watergate Ron Nessen Interview, 14–15 Benton Becker Interview, 33 Sam Donaldson Interview, 16–17 Helen Thomas Interview, 3–4 William Brock Interview, 20–21 John Logie Interview, 6 personal relationships with Pat Buchanan Interview, 10–11 Benton Becker Interview, 60 Richard Kaiser Interview, 7–8 Lee Simmons Interview, 16 Sam Donaldson Interview, 1–5 Mel Laird Interview, 20 Tom Korologos Interview, 18–20 personal stories about William Brock Interview, 19–20 Bob Goodwin Interview, 2–5 Nixon, Richard and Patricia Dick Cheney Interview, 4-6 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 19–21, 38–39 Gerald Warren Interview, 3–4, 6–8 Helen Thomas Interview, 7–8 Larry Buendorf Interview, 5–6 Nixon pardon Maria Downs Interview, 5 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 19–20 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 28–29 Bob Schieffer Interview, 5–6 presidency, last days of John Paul Stevens Interview, 8, 18 Aram Bakshian Interview, 9–11 Maury DeJonge Interview, 6–7 Betty Monkman Interview, 6–7, 13 Peter Cook Interview, 8–9 Bob Barrett Interview, 1–3 Peter Secchia Interview, 10–12 Helen Thomas Interview, 6 Robert Bork Interview, 9–10 presidential agenda Nixon resignation Aram Bakshian Interview, 4–5 Bill Archer Interview, 16–17 presidential style Bob Orben Interview, 12–13 Bill Timmons Interview, 14–16 Bob Schieffer Interview, 6–7 Hal Bruno Interview, 2–4 Helen Thomas Interview, 2–3, 7–8 Tom Korologos Interview, 4 Jerry Jones Interview, 13–15 records, presidential Nixon tapes Benton Becker Interview, 34–39, 46–53 Jerry Jones Interview, 4–6, 10–13 John Logie Interview, 11 Nofziger, Lyn relationship with press Ron Nessen Interview, 33 Aram Bakshian Interview, 6–7 Stu Spencer Interview, 29 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 26 resentment of Ford Noonan, Peggy Lou Cannon Interview, 12–13 Greg Willard Interview, 40 resignation Guy Swan Interview, 10-11 Betty Monkman Interview, 8–9 Nunn, Jon Interview Bill Timmons Interview, 25–28 Nunn, Lee Bob Michael Interview, 25–26 Stu Spencer Interview, 33, 43 David Kennerly Interview, 8–10 Gary Walters Interview, 8–9 Gerald Warren Interview, 16–17 O Henry Kissinger Interview, 2–3 O'Brien, Larry Maria Downs Interview, 4 Sam Donaldson Interview, 2–3 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 10–11 O'Donnell, Terry Interview Pat Buchanan Interview, 10 Richard Kaiser Interview, 4 David Matthews Interview, 6–7 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 9 Old Kent Bank William Seale Interview, 1–4 Martin Allen Interview, 8–9 Scott, Hugh O'Neill, Paul Tom Korologos Interview, 12 Martin Allen Interview, 5 smoking gun tape Peter Secchia Interview, 34 Henry Kissinger Interview, 1–2 Stu Spencer Interview, 71 Pat Buchanan Interview, 18–19 O'Neill, Paul Interview Supreme Court Ruling O'Neill, Tip Benton Becker Interview, 33–35 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 10 Carla Hills Interview, 6–7 Carla Hills Interview, 24–25 Washington establishment Max Friedersdorf Interview, 5 Chris DeMuth Interview, 6–7 Peter Secchia Interview, 6–7, 24–25

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Roderick Hills Interview, 7 Lou Cannon Interview, 23 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 14 Ron Nessen Interview, 35–37 Operation Baby Lift effect on Ford election John Carlson Interview, 6–7 Leon Parma I Interview, 6 Ron Nessen Interview, 24–25 Stu Spencer Interview, 85–86 Orben, Bob Interview 's use Order of the Turtle Leon Parma I Interview, 6 Roderick Hills Interview, 8 Political consulting Orlando, Tony Stu Spencer Interview, 1 Maury DeJonge Interview, 22 Pollak, Lou Ornelas, Lorraine William Coleman Interview, 1–2 Jan Hart Interview, 5–6 Porter, Roger Ornelas, Lorraine Interview Martin Allen Interview, 8 Orr, Vernon Porter, Roger Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 28 Oswald, Lee Harvey Post-presidency earnings William Coleman Interview, 5–6 Greg Willard Interview, 19-20 Peter Secchia Interview, 40 Powell, Alvy P Martin Allen Interview, 62 Packard, David Seymour Padnos Interview, 18 Stu Spencer Interview, 73 Powell, Colin Packer, Les Patrick Butler Interview #2, 12-13 Stu Spencer Interview, 73 Padnos, Seymour Powell, Clara interest in politics Susan Ford Bales Interview, 11–14 Seymour Padnos Interview, 3 Prince Philip Padnos, Stuart Peter Secchia Interview, 22–23 Seymour Padnos Interview, 5–6 Profiles in Courage award Pagnotta,Frank Benton Becker Interview, 59–60 Dorothy Downton Interview, 19 Jon Nunn Interview, 29 Panama Canal Martin Allen Interview, 29–30 Strobe Talbott Interview, 7–8 Maury DeJonge Interview, 7 Stu Spencer Interview, 72 Penny Circle Interview, 27 Parks, Rev. Lyman Peter Secchia Interview, 51 Dick Ford Interview, 24–25 Phil Jones Interview, 15 Parma, Leon Roderick Hills Interview, 31 Bob Orben Interview, 23 Sam Donaldson Interview, 23 Leon Parma I Interview, 2, 4, 12 Purcell, John Interview Peter Secchia Interview, 44 Purple Gang Parma, Leon #2 Interview Maury DeJonge Interview, 1 Penny, Don Bob Orben Interview, 11, 25 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 10-12 Q Ron Nessen Interview, 18 Queen Elizabeth Seymour Padnos Interview, 12 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 23 Penny, Don Interview Betty Monkman Interview, 15 Percy, Senator Charles Dorothy Downton Interview, 35 John Paul Stevens Interview, 6 Peter Secchia Interview, 15–18 Persons, General Jerry Stu Spencer Interview, 50–51 Leon Parma I Interview, 2 Quillen, James (Jimmy) Pettit, Tom William Brock Interview, 8 Peter Secchia Interview, 36–37 Pitts, Henry R Pitts-Greenberg Commission Rafferty, Max John Paul Stevens Interview, 5 Stu Spencer Interview, 8 Pocklington, Peter Interview Raiman, Gail Polish gaffe Dorothy Downton Interview, 18 34 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Rayburn, Sam Reed, Clarke Bob Michael Interview, 15 Bill Timmons Interview, 39–40 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 2 Dick Cheney Interview, 29-31 Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Hal Bruno Interview, 8–11 Raymond, Bruce Peter Secchia Interview, 22 Seymour Padnos Interview, 3 Ron Nessen Interview, 32–33 Reagan, Nancy Stu Spencer Interview, 51, 81 Lou Cannon Interview, 20–21 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 22–23 Patrick Butler Interview #1, 17–18 Reed, Tom Stu Spencer Interview, 19 Stu Spencer Interview, 30, 31 1976 Republican Convention Regulatory reform Maury DeJonge Interview, 13 Roderick Hills Interview, 23–26 parents Rehnquist, William Stu Spencer Interview, 77–78 Tom Kauper Interview, 2–3 role in 's career Stu Spencer Interview, 75–76 Republican Convention Reagan, Ronald 1968 George W. Bush Interview, 4–5 Peter Secchia Interview, 2–3 Lou Cannon Interview, 20–21 1976 Peter Secchia Interview, 26, 39 Dick Cheney Interview, 44 Wayne Hoffman Interview, 12 Greg Willard Interview, 6 1976 Republican Convention Maury DeJonge Interview, 12–13 Bill Archer Interview, 21–23 Republican National Committee Jon Nunn Interview, 1 Peter Secchia Interview, 25 Leon Parma I Interview, 7 Republican National Congressional Committee Lou Cannon Interview, 9–10 Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 16 Wilson, Bob Phil Jones Interview, 30–31 Leon Parma I Interview, 1 1980 Republican convention Republican National Convention, 1964 Penny Circle Interview, 5–7 William Brock Interview, 2–3 as candidate Republican National Convention, 1968 Stu Spencer Interview, 22 William Brock Interview, 18 funeral Rhodes, John Jon Nunn Interview, 9–11, 22–23 Sam Donaldson Interview, 10 funeral plans Rhodes, Johnny Mike Wagner Interview, 10–11 Stu Spencer Interview, 39 jokes about Rhythm candidate Bob Orben Interview, 9 Stu Spencer Interview, 36–37 offer of vice presidency Rice, Emmett Leon Parma I Interview, 7 William Coleman Interview, 4 Ron Nessen Interview, 33–34 Richards, Dick personal stories about Peter Secchia Interview, 26 Gary Walters Interview, 15–16 Richardson, Elliot presidential style Carla Hills Interview, 1–3 John Engler Interview, 9–10 James Baker Interview, 1–2 Rockefeller, Nelson Pat Buchanan Interview, 5–6 Stu Spencer Interview, 30–31 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 14–15 speechwriting William Coleman Interview, 2, 11 Stu Spencer Interview, 20 Riegle, Don Reagan challenge Stu Spencer Interview, 27 Doug Bailey Interview, 6–8 Red Flannel Parade Peter Wallison Interview, 4–5 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 15 Robert R. Mullen Company Maury DeJonge Interview, 19 Tom Korologos Interview, 2 Red Skelton Show Bob Orben Interview, 5–6 Roberts, Bill Reed, Chauncy Stu Spencer Interview, 2, 50 John Paul Stevens Interview, 4 Roberts, Cokie Interview

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Alan Greenspan Interview, 18–19 Robinson, Jackie Anne Holkeboer Interview, 26 Stu Spencer Interview, 11–12 Benton Becker Interview, 14–16 Carla Hills Interview, 15–16 Rockefeller, Happy Dick Cheney Interview, 23-30 Greg Willard Interview, 39 Dorothy Downton Interview, 27–28 Stu Spencer Interview, 13–14 Gerald Warren Interview, 17–18 Henry Kissinger Interview, 5–6 Rockefeller, Nelson Jim Cannon Interview, 5–8, 9–10, 13–14 Jerry Jones Interview, 19–22 Patrick Butler Interview #1, 10–11 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 21-22 Peter Wallison Interview, 9–17, 20–21 Paul O'Neill Interview, 29–31 Roderick Hills Interview, 9–10, 26–27 Stu Spencer Interview, 11 Roger Porter Interview, 14–15 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 35–36 Stu Spencer Interview, 41–42, 55, 60–61 William Brock Interview, 2 Rockefeller Commission 1964 Republican nomination Roderick Hills Interview, 18–21 Peter Wallison Interview, 4–5 Rogers, Ginger Stu Spencer Interview, 9–10, 12–13, 15–16 Leon Parma I Interview, 10 1976 Republican Convention Rollins, Ed David Kennerly Interview, 24–27 Stu Spencer Interview, 76–77 Dick Cheney Interview, 44 Roman Numberal Two Fred Barnes Interview, 20–21 Bob Orben Interview, 19 Henry Kissinger Interview, 15 Romney, George Peter Wallison Interview, 24–25, 30 Maury DeJonge Interview, 26–27 Ron Nessen Interview, 33–34 Stu Spencer Interview, 27 Stu Spencer Interview, 25, 61–62, 79 Ronan Tom Korologos Interview #2, 20–21 Stu Spencer Interview, 10, 16 campaign style Rose, Bubby Peter Wallison Interview, 6 Dick Ford Interview, 9 confirmation hearings for vp Rose Garden strategy Bill Timmons Interview, 38–40 Stu Spencer Interview, 22, 50, 90 Jim Cannon Interview, 27–28 Ross, Bill Domestic Council Stu Spencer Interview, 2 Peter Wallison Interview, 12–17, 20–21 Rousselot, Johnny dyslexia Stu Spencer Interview, 4–5 Peter Wallison Interview, 29 Ruckelshaus, William Energy Independence Corporation Stu Spencer Interview, 62 Alan Greenspan Interview, 17–19 Ruckelshaus, William Martin Allen Interview, 5 Carla Hills Interview, 1 Peter Wallison Interview, 17–19 Rumsfeld, Donald Governor Anne Holkeboer Interview, 11 Jim Cannon Interview, 29–30 Aram Bakshian Interview, 16–17 Peter Wallison Interview, 6–11 Benton Becker Interview, 14–15 paranoia Bob Schieffer Interview, 14 Benton Becker Interview, 12, 14 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 8–9 personal stories about Dick Cheney Interview, 2-6, 8-9 Bobbie Kilberg Interview, 26–28 Dorothy Downton Interview, 24–25 Don Penny Interview, 24–25 Fred Barnes Interview, 18–19 post-vice presidency George W. Bush Interview, 1–2 Peter Wallison Interview, 35–36 Gerald Warren Interview, 21–22 problem solving approach Jerry Jones Interview, 18–19, 22 Peter Wallison Interview, 26–29 Jim Cannon Interview, 8–9, 14–15 Ronald Reagan John Carlson Interview, 20 Stu Spencer Interview, 30–31 Lou Cannon Interview, 8–9 Rumsfeld, Donald Max Friedersdorf Interview, 1–2 Benton Becker Interview, 16 Pat Buchanan Interview, 15 Peter Wallison Interview, 20–21 Paul O'Neill Interview, 28–29, 31 vice president Penny Circle Interview, 17

36 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Phil Jones Interview, 11–12, 31 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 10–11 Roderick Hills Interview, 9 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 1–2 Ron Nessen Interview, 8–9, 20–22, 34–35 Saturday Night Massacre Stu Spencer Interview, 11, 26, 79 Carla Hills Interview, 1–3 William Brock Interview, 1 Helen Thomas Interview, 2–3 chief of staff, as John Paul Stevens Interview, 12 H.P. Goldfield Interview, 3–4 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 9–10 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 8 Pat Buchanan Interview, 4–5 Rockefeller, Nelson Robert Bork Interview, 6–8, 11–12 Benton Becker Interview, 16 Stu Spencer Interview, 24 Peter Wallison Interview, 20–21 Tom Kauper Interview, 5–6 Ron Nessen Interview, 34 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 14–15 spokes of the wheel Saudi bond discrimination Ron Nessen Interview, 11 Roderick Hills Interview, 11–12 transition to White House Sawyer, Hal Betty Monkman Interview, 10 John Logie Interview, 7, 10-12 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 5–6 Saxbe, Bill Benton Becker Interview, 34–39 Russell, Kansas – 1976 campaign visit Robert Bork Interview, 10–11, 18–19 Bob Dole Interview, 16-17 Tom Korologos Interview #2, 9–10 Dick Cheney Interview, 44 Scatter Blitzers Greg Willard Interview, 6 Martin Allen Interview, 44 Red Cavaney Interview, 26-27 Schembechler, Bo Rutledge, Justice Wiley Dick Ford Interview, 28 John Paul Stevens Interview, 9 Martin Allen Interview, 4, 50 Peter Secchia Interview, 41 Schieffer, Bob Interview S Sadat, Anwar Schlesinger, James Dorothy Downton Interview, 35 Aram Bakshian Interview, 32–33 Maria Downs Interview, 17–18 Benton Becker Interview, 18 Peter Secchia Interview, 51–52 Dick Cheney Interview, 17-19 Safer, Morley Don Penny Interview, 7 Peter Secchia Interview, 32 Frank Carlucci Interview, 7–8 Saigon, fall of Henry Kissinger Interview, 12 Aram Bakshian Interview, 31–32 John Carlson Interview, 21–22 Bill Archer Interview, 18–20 Patrick Butler Interview #2, 3-4 Bob Schieffer Interview, 13 Paul O'Neill Interview, 11–12 Carla Hills Interview, 22–23 Roger Porter Interview, 8–9 David Kennerly Interview, 37–40 Strobe Talbott Interview, 2–3 Dick Cheney Interview, 52-54 Schmidt, Helmut Fred Barnes Interview, 25 Bill Laughlin Interview, 3–6, 9 Jon Nunn Interview, 7–8 Carla Hills Interview, 25 Lou Cannon Interview, 14–15 Dorothy Downton Interview, 35 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 18–19 Martin Allen Interview, 41 Patrick Butler Interview #1, 2 School of Public Policy Phil Jones Interview, 22–23 Lee Bollinger Interview, 1–2 Roderick Hills Interview, 12–13 Schreiber, Taft Ron Nessen Interview, 19–22 Stu Spencer Interview, 29 Sam Donaldson Interview, 18–19 Schuiling, Bill Strobe Talbott Interview, 5–6 Harold Bosscher Interview, 5, 7 William Coleman Interview, 18 Schweiker, Dick Salvatori, Henry Stu Spencer Interview, 21, 74 Leon Parma I Interview, 5, 6 Scott, Hugh Stu Spencer Interview, 7–8 Pat Buchanan Interview, 1–2 Samish, Artie Tom Korologos Interview, 12 Stu Spencer Interview, 2 Scott, Randy Sara Tyne ice cream Gerald Ford golf partner

37 Index

Leon Parma I Interview, 5 Rich DeVos Interview, 13–14 Scouten, Rex Stu Spencer Interview, 40–41 Peter Secchia Interview, 17 Simple Justice Scowcroft, Brent William Coleman Interview, 1 Ron Nessen Interview, 20–21, 36–37 SIMS (Summer Institute for Medical Students) Stu Spencer Interview, 85 James Greenbaum Interview, 6 William Coleman Interview, 11 Sinclair, Upton Seale, William Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 2 Sears, John Sipple, Oliver Stu Spencer Interview, 74–75 Ron Nessen Interview, 26–27 SEC Sirica, John J. Roderick Hills Interview, 13–14, 23 Sam Donaldson Interview, 4 Secchia, Peter Ski Poland Maury DeJonge Interview, 23–23 Phil Jones Interview, 33 Secchia, Peter Interview Skolnick, Sherman Peter Secchia Interview John Paul Stevens Interview, 5 Secchia, Peter Interview 2 Skougi, Bill Secret Service Harold Bosscher Interview, 11 command post in Rancho Mirage Slifer, Rod Interview Leon Parma I Interview, 10 Smith, Gordon responsibilities of Stu Spencer Interview, 28–29 Jon Nunn Interview, 25 Smith, Jay Richard Kaiser Interview, 9–11, 15–19 Maury DeJonge Interview, 2 staffing Smith, Mary Louise Todd Matanich Interview, 1, 3–5 Peter Secchia Interview, 25–26 Vail/Beaver Creek, Colorado Smith, William French Kaiser Morcus Interview, 2–3 Leon Parma I Interview, 8–9 Secret Service agents 1976 Republican Convention Buendorf, Larry Leon Parma I Interview, 7 Leon Parma I Interview, 11 Smoking gun tape Kaiser, Dick Bonnie Angelo Interview, 15 Leon Parma I Interview, 13 Gerald Warren Interview, 15–16 Secretaries, presidential Jerry Jones Interview, 13 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 12–13 William Brock Interview, 19 Seidman, Bill Solzhenitsyn Birge Watkins Interview, 1–2, 4–5, 7–9 Henry Kissinger Interview, 7–8 Rich DeVos Interview, 6–7 Strobe Talbott Interview, 3–4 Seventh Circuit Sonnenfeldt Doctrine Bill Bauer Ron Nessen Interview, 35–36 John Paul Stevens Interview, 13 Strobe Talbott Interview, 12–13 Justice Stevens' appointment to SOS Group John Paul Stevens Interview, 6 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 1–2 Seventh Circuit appointment South High School John Paul Stevens Interview, 6 Peter Cook Interview, 2, 3, 10 Shepherd, Sparks, Frank Fred Meijer Interview, 4 Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 4 Shepherd, Jordon Sparling, Jim Dick Ford Interview, 25 Peter Secchia Interview, 36 Shields, Mark Specter, Arlen Stu Spencer Interview, 89 William Coleman Interview, 5 Silverman, Larry Speechwriters Carla Hills Interview, 2 Aram Bakshian Interview Simmons, Lee Interview Spencer, Stu Bob Orben Interview, 1 Simon, Bill James Baker Interview, 3 Alan Greenspan Interview, 1–2, 9–11 Jim Cannon Interview, 30 Birge Watkins Interview, 9–10 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 16–17 Martin Allen Interview, 5–6 Peter Secchia Interview, t

38 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Ron Nessen Interview, 31–32 Swanson, Dick William Brock Interview, 12–13 Ron Nessen Interview, 24 Spencer-Roberts Sweeney, Joe Stu Spencer Interview, 1–3, 17 Dick Ford Interview, 25 Ford campaign Sweeney, Joe Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 26 Swine Flu Spokes of the Wheel David Matthews Interview, 14–17 Ron Nessen Interview, 10–11 Paul O'Neill Interview, 21–22 Staples and Charles Marvin DeWinter Interview, 8 Starboard Tack T Peter Secchia Interview, 1 Talbott, Strobe Interview Stadler, Craig Tan Son Nhat airport Stu Spencer Interview, 52–53 Ron Nessen Interview, 20–21, 24 Taping, White House State Funeral of Gerald Ford Gary Walters Interview, 5–7 Ann Cullen Interview, 15–19, 33–34 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 4 Dick Ford Interview, 29–30 Taylor, Don George W. Bush Interview, 15 Stu Spencer Interview, 12 Greg Willard Interview, 31–41 Teamsters Union Guy Swan Interview, 3, 7, 1–14 Roderick Hills Interview, 6–7, 16 John Paul Stevens Interview, 18 Teeter, Bob Lou Cannon Interview, 13 Stu Spencer Interview, 44, 62 Mike Wagner Interview, 15–23 terHorst, Jerry Richard Wennekamp Interview, 30–31 Birge Watkins Interview, 5–6 Susan Ford Bales Interview, 52–55, 57 Bonnie Angelo Interview, 7–8 Staufer, Joseph Interview Dorothy Downton Interview, 25–26 Stein, Ben Helen Thomas Interview, 9–10 Bob Orben Interview, 22 Pat Buchanan Interview, 12–13 Stevens, Justice John Paul Peter Secchia Interview, 12 Dick Cheney Interview, 50-51 Ron Nessen Interview, 14–16 Dick Ford Interview, 28 Terry O'Donnell Interview, 19 Fred Barnes Interview, 16–18 Terrar, Ed Martin Allen Interview, 3, 6–7 Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Robert Bork Interview, 15–16 Thatcher, Margaret Stewart, Justice Potter Peter Pocklington Interview, 20 John Paul Stevens Interview, 9, 14 The Lady is A Tramp Stiles, Jack Peter Secchia Interview, 23 David Mehney Interview, 6 Theis, Paul Gordon VanderTill Interview, 18–20 Bob Orben Interview, 8 Peter Secchia #2 Interview, 3–7 Thomas, Helen Stu Spencer Interview, 35, 80 Phil Jones Interview, 23 Stone, Oliver Thomas, Helen Interview Cokie Roberts Interview, 7–9 Thurmond, Strom Vaden and Susan Bales Interview, 11–12 Stu Spencer Interview, 31 Summer Institute for Medical Students (SIMS) Timmons, Bill James Greenbaum Interview, 6 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 7 Summerfield, Art Timmons, Bill Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 27 Title IX Supreme Court David Matthews Interview, 26–27 ruling on Nixon papers Tone, Phil John Logie Interview, 11 John Paul Stevens Interview, 9 Supreme Court Toobin, Jeffrey ruling on Nixon tapes John Paul Stevens Interview, 16 Benton Becker Interview, 33–35 Toots Shores Swan, Guy Interview Stu Spencer Interview, 16 Swan, Guy Tower, John Greg Willard Interview, 35-37 Stu Spencer Interview, 101

39 Index

Travel Harry Frampton Interview, 1 Fords and Parmas Jack Eck Interview, 1–25 Leon Parma I Interview, 10–11 James Greenbaum Interview, 1 Trimpe, Jim John Carlson Interview, 3–4 Jim Trimpe Interview John Purcell Interview, 12–13 Trucking deregulation Joseph Staufer Interview, 1–3, 5–7 William Coleman Interview, 13–14 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 1–2, 7 Trudeau, Pierre Lee Simmons Interview, 28, 37–39 Peter Pocklington Interview, 9–10 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 1–2 Truman, Harry Lorraine Ornelas Interview, 8–10, 12 funeral plans Martin Allen Interview, 63–65 Mike Wagner Interview, 10 Richard Wennekamp Interview, 18 Tuesday-Thursday Club Rod Slifer Interview, 1–2 William Brock Interview, 13 Tyne Berlanga Interview, 3, 14–15, 17–18 Tulane speech Vandenberg, Sen. Arthur Ron Nessen Interview, 7–8 Dick Ford Interview, 10 Tuskee Airmen Hank Meijer Interview, 4–14 William Coleman Interview, 3 Maury DeJonge Interview, 3 Tuttle, Holmes Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 1–3 Leon Parma I Interview, 8 Werner Veit Interview, 2–3 Tutwiler, Margaret Vander Jagt, Guy Stu Spencer Interview, 15 Bill Archer Interview, 9–10 Tyron, Jim Bob Michael Interview, 6–7 William Coleman Interview, 10 David Mehney Interview, 8–9 Peter Secchia Interview, 8, 35–36 Seymour Padnos Interview, 14–15 U Vander Till, Gordon v Burdick Anne Holkeboer Interview, 4 Benton Becker Interview, 42–43 VanderTill, Gordon Interview Vanderveen, Dick Werner Veit Interview, 10–11 Affirmative Action Veit, Werner Lee Bollinger Interview, 3–8 Maury DeJonge Interview, 17 Veit, Werner Interview Ursomarso, Frank Veneman, Jack Richard Wennekamp Interview, 2 Stu Spencer Interview, 68 Ver Meulen, W. B. Doc USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) Dick Ford Interview, 1 Dick Cheney Interview, 56 Maury DeJonge Interview, 3 Greg Willard Interview, 41 Verdugo Days Stu Spencer Interview, 86 USS Monterey Vestal, Bud Frank Weston Interview Maury DeJonge Interview, 26–27 John Fifer Interview, 1–16 Veterans Against the War Martin Allen Interview, 47 Peter Secchia Interview, 3 Utt, Jimmy Vietnam Stu Spencer Interview, 6 Betty Monkman Interview, 1–3 David Kennerly Interview, 36–40 Gary Walters Interview, 3–4 V Ron Nessen Interview, 19–22, 22–23, 24–25 Vail Foundation Strobe Talbott Interview, 6–7 Harry Frampton Interview, 4–6 William Brock Interview, 11–12, 22 Vail/Beaver Creek, Colorado Vietnam Amnesty Program Ann Cullen Interview, 28 Stu Spencer Interview, 56–57 Bill and Sally Hanlon Interview, 1–2 Vietnamese refugees Bill Laughlin Interview, 11 John Carlson Interview, 6–8 Frank Lynch Interview, 3 Vladivostok Fred Green Interview, 1–2 Henry Kissinger Interview, 12–13

40 Cumulative Index of All Oral History Transcripts

Jim Cannon Interview, 2 John Logie Interview, 6 Voting Rights Act Max Friedersdorf Interview, 7–9 William Brock Interview, 3 Mel Laird Interview, 13–14 Sam Donaldson Interview, 1–5, 2 Tom Korologos Interview, 1–6 W William Brock Interview, 19–20 Wagner, Mike Bradlee, Ben Greg Willard Interview, 33-35, 40 Sam Donaldson Interview, 4 Susan Ford (Bales) Interview, 25, 53 Jaworski, Leon Walker, Harry Benton Becker Interview, 55–56 Penny Circle Interview, 8 press coverage Wallace, George Helen Thomas Interview, 6–7 David Matthews Interview, 3–4 Phil Jones Interview, 7–10 Wallison, Peter Interview Sirica, John J. Walters, Barbara Sam Donaldson Interview, 4 Bob Schieffer Interview, 19–20 smoking gun tape Peter Secchia Interview, 3 Bill Timmons Interview, 24–25 Walters, Gary Interview Supreme Court Ruling War Powers Act Carla Hills Interview, 6–7 H.P. Goldfield Interview, 6–7 Woodward and Bernstein Ken Lazarus Interview, 11 Sam Donaldson Interview, 3 Ward, Willis Watergate Babies Benton Becker Interview, 23 Cokie Roberts Interview, 2 William Coleman Interview, 16 Watkins, Birge Interview Warren, Earl Wednesday Group Benton Becker Interview, 10 Doug Bailey Interview, 2–3 Stu Spencer Interview, 4 Weidenfeld, Sheila William Coleman Interview, 5 Maury DeJonge Interview, 13 Warren, Gerald Interview Weill, Sandy Warren Commission Jon Nunn Interview, 16 Anne Holkeboer Interview, 6–7, 12 Penny Circle Interview, 23 Dick Ford Interview, 15 Weinberger, Cappy Martin Allen Interview, 60–61 Stu Spencer Interview, 28–29 William Brock Interview, 9–10 Welch, Frankie Interview William Coleman Interview, 5–6 Welch, , DC Rich DeVos Interview, 8 Doug Bailey Interview, 4–5 Welch, Robert John Knebel Interview, 10–11, 15 Stu Spencer Interview, 4 Washington, DC, early culture Wennekamp, Richard John Engler Interview, 2–9, 25–26 Greg Willard Interview, 6 Leon Parma 2 Interview, 1–9, 6–7, 9–10 West, Dr. James Interview. see Schwartlose/West Interview Washington Metro Weston, Frank Interview William Coleman Interview, 7 Whip Inflation Now Washington Payoff Alan Greenspan Interview, 6–7, 13 Benton Becker Interview, 12–13 Dick Cheney Interview, 22 Wasserman, Lew White, Bill Stu Spencer Interview, 29 Stu Spencer Interview, 56 Watergate White, Cliff Benton Becker Interview, 27–32 Stu Spencer Interview, 30 Bill Archer Interview, 13–15 White House Bill Timmons Interview, 17–19 events Carla Hills Interview, 4–5 Gary Walters Interview, 28–30, 33 Frank Carlucci Interview, 5 personal stories about Gary Walters Interview, 5–6, 8–9 Gary Walters Interview, 27–28 Hal Bruno Interview, 15–22 as residence Helen Thomas Interview, 3 Gary Walters Interview, 14–21, 22–23 Jerry Jones Interview, 3–6 restoration John Knebel Interview, 5 William Seale Interview, 3–7

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staff Roderick Hills Interview, 30 Gary Walters Interview, 10, 22–26, 37 World War II Memorial William Seale Interview, 17–19 taping system Benton Becker Interview, 53–54 Y White House Police Yonkman, Barney history of Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 3–4 Gary Walters Interview, 1–2 Young Turks Bill Timmons Interview, 4–5 White House Summer Internship Bob Michael Interview, 9 H.P. Goldfield Interview, 1 Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Max Friedersdorf Interview, 1 Whittaker, Clem Mel Laird Interview, 5 Stu Spencer Interview, 1 Sam Donaldson Interview, 7 William Brock Interview, 8 Whittaker and Baxter Stu Spencer Interview, 1 Z Willard, Greg Zeoli, Billy Susan Ford (Bales) Interview, 21, 27 Peter Secchia Interview, 20–21 Ann Cullen Interview, 33 Rich DeVos Interview, 10–11 Guy Swan Interview, 3, 6-7 Ziegler, Ron Mike Wagner Interview, 14-15, 18, 25 Benton Becker Interview, 33, 47–52 Williams, Edward Bennett Terry O'Donnell Interview, 13 Williams, Robin James Greenbaum Interview, 4–5 Wilson, Bob Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Stu Spencer Interview, 26 Wilson, Don Interview Wilson, Fred Leon Parma I Interview, 9 Penny Circle Interview, 23 Wilson, Jo Anne Holkeboer Interview, 8 Wilson, Pete Stu Spencer Interview, 67 Wilson, Vonnie Leon Parma I Interview, 9 Winter-Berger, Robert Benton Becker Interview, 12–14 wiretapping Robert Bork Interview, 12–13 Wisdom, John Minor William Coleman Interview, 3 With Honor Laird, Mel Leon Parma I Interview, 1 Woodruff, Lee Ralph Hauenstein Interview, 4 Woods, Rosemary Stu Spencer Interview, 69 World Forum Bill Laughlin Interview, 2 Carla Hills Interview, 25 Kaiser Morcus Interview, 8 Liz and Luc Meyer Interview, 7–9

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