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Debates Proceedings Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Speaker The Honourable Peter Fox Vol. XXll No. 27 2:30 p.m., Wednesday, March 26th, 1975. Second Session, 30th Legislature. Printed by R. S. Evans- Queen's Printer for Province of Manitoba Political Electoral Division Name Address Postal Affiliation Code ARTHUR J. Douglas Watt P.C. Reston, Man. ROM lXO ASSINIBOIA Steve Patrick Lib. 10 Red Roblin Pl., Winnipeg R3J 3L8 BIRTLE-RUSSELL Harry E. Graham P.C. Binscarth, Man. ROJ OOO BRANDON EAST Hon. Leonard S. Evans NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova BRANDON WEST Edward McGill P.C. 2228 Princess Ave., Brandon R7B OH9 BURROWS Hon. Ben Hanuschak NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova CHARLESWOOD Arthur Moug P.C. 29 Willow Ridge Rd., Winnipeg R3R 1L5 CHURCHILL Les Osland NOP 66 Radisson Blvd., Churchill ROB OEO CRESCENTWOOD Vacant DAUPHIN Hon. Peter Burtniak NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova ELMWOOD Hon. Russell J. Doern NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3c ova EMERSON Steve Derewianchuk NOP Vita, Manitoba ROA 2KO FLIN FLON Thomas Barrow NOP Cranberry Portage, Man. ROB OHO FORT GARRY L.R. (Bud) Sherman P.C. 86 Niagara St., Winnipeg R3N OT9 FORT ROUGE Lloyd Axworthy Lib. 132 Osborne St. S., Winnipeg R3L 1Y5 GIMLI John C. Gottfried NOP. 44 - 3rd Ave., Gimli, Man. ROC lBO GLADSTONE James R. Ferguson P.C. Gladstone, Man. ROJ OTO INKSTER Hon. Sidney Green, O.C. NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova KILDONAN Hon. Peter Fox NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova LAC DU BONNET Hon. Sam Uskiw NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova LAKESIDE Harry J. Enns P.C. Woodlands, Man. ROC 3HO LA VERENDRYE Bob Banman P.C. Steinbach, Man. ROA 2AO LOGAN William Jenkins NOP 1294Erin St., Winnipeg R3E 2S6 MINNEDOSA David Blake P.C. Minnedosa, Man. ROJ lEO MORRIS Warner H. Jorgenson P.C. Morris, Man. ROG lKO OSBORNE Hon. Ian Turnbull NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova PEMBINA George Henderson P.C. Manitou, Man. ROG lGO POINT DOUGLAS Donald Malinowski NOP 23Coralberry Ave., Winnipeg R2V 2P2 PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE Gordon E. Johnston Lib. 26-120 - 6th St., S.E., Portage la Prairie, Man. RlN 1E8 RADISSON Harry Shafransky NOP 4 Maplehurst Rd., Winnipeg R2J 1W8 RHINELAND Arnold Brown P.C. Winkler, Man. ROG 2XO RIEL Donald W. Craik P.C. 3 River Lane, Winnipeg R2M 3Y8 RIVER HEIGHTS Sidney Spivak, 0.C. P.C. Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova ROBLIN J. Wally McKenzie P.C. Inglis, Man. ROJ OXO ROCK LAKE Henry J. Einarson P.C. Glenboro,Man. ROK OXO ROSSMERE Hon. Ed. Schreyer NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova RUPERTSLAND Hon; Harvey Bostrom NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova ST. BONIFACE Hon. L.L. Desjardins NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova ST. GEORGE Hon. Bill Uruski NOP 10th fir., 330 Portage Ave., Wpg. R3C OC4 ST. JAMES George Minaker P.C. 318 Ronald St.,Winnipeg R3J 3.18 ST. JOHNS Saul Cherniack, O.C. NOP 333 St. Johns Ave., Winnipeg R2W 1H2 ST. MATTHEWS Wally Johannsen NOP 418 Home St., Winnipeg R3G 1X4 ST. VITAL D.J. Walding NOP 26Hemlock Place,Winnipeg R2H 1L7 STE. ROSE A.R. (Pete) Adam NOP Ste. Rose du Lac, Man. ROL lSO SELKIRK Hon. Howard Pawley NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova SEVEN OAKS Hon. Saul A. Miller NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova SOURIS KILLARNEY Earl McKellar P.C. Nesbitt, Man. ROK lPO SPRINGFIELD Hon. Rene E. Toupin NOP LegislativeBldg., Winnipeg R3C ova STURGEON CREEK J. Frank Johnston P.C. 310 Overdale St., Winnipeg R3J 2G3 SWAN RIVER James H. Bilton P.C. Swan River, Man. ROL lZO THE PAS Hon. Ron McBryde NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova THOMPSON Ken Dillen NOP 84 Pintail Cres., Thompson RSN 1A6 TRANSCONA Hon. Russell Paulley NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova VIRDEN Morris McGregor P.C. Kenton, Man. ROM OZO WELLINGTON Philip M. Petursson NOP 681 Banning St., Winnipeg R3G 2G3 WINNIPEG CENTRE Hon. J.R. (Bud) Boyce NOP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova WOLSELEY Vacant 711 THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2:30 o'clock, Wednesday, March 26, 1975 Opening Prayer by Mr. Speaker. INTRODUCTION OF GUESTS MR. SPEAKER: Before we proceed, I should like to direct the attention of the honourable members to the gallery where we have 25 students of Grade 11 standing, of the Murdoch McKay School. These students are under the direction of Mr. Heindl. This school is located in the constituency of the Honourable Member for Transcona, the Minister of Labour. We also have 17 students, Grade 11 standing, of the Grant Park School. These students are under the direction of Mr. Kroeker. This school is located in the constituency of the Honourable Member for River Heights, the Leader of the Opposition. And we have 17 students of Grade 9 standing, of the Windsor School. These students are under the direction of Mr. Walker. This school is located in the constituency of the Honourable Member for St. Vital. On behalf of all the honourable members, I welcome you here this afternoon. Presenting Petitions; Reading and Receiving Petitions; Presenting Reports by Standing and Special Committees; Ministerial Statements and Tabling of Reports. The Honourable Minister of Tourism and Recreation. TABLING OF REPORTS , HON. RENE TOUPIN (Minister of Tourism, Recreation and Cultural Affairs) (Springfield): Mr. Speaker, I'd like to table the Annual Report for the Centre Cultural Franco-Manitobain, dated January, February and March of 1974, and including the auditor's reports and financial statement for the year ended March 31, 1974. And I'd like to table an Order for Return asked of me by the Honourable Member for Roblin, dated March 17, 1975. MR. SPEAKER: Any other Ministerial Statement or Tabling of Reports? Notices of Motion; Introduction of Bills; Questions. The Honourable Leader of the Opposition. ORAL QUESTIONS MR. SIDNEY SPIVAK, Q. C. (Leader of the Official Opposition) (River Heights): Mr. Speaker, my question is to the First Minister. I wonder if he can indicate when the Budget will be brought down. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable First Minister. HON. EDWARD SCHREYER (Premier) (Rossmere): Mr. Speaker, I had it in mind to indicate to the House today, and I thank the Honourable Leader of the Opposition for affording me the opportunity, to indicate that the Budget will be brought down on or about the 23rd of April, plus or minus a day. MR. SPIVAK: I wonder if the First Minister would be in a position to indicate whether there will be relief provided for the municipal real estate taxpayer in the province. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable First Minister. MR. SCHREYER: Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition knows full well the tradi­ tion that surrounds indicating the substance of Budget Addresses in advance. MR. SPIVAK: I wonder if the First Minister could indicate whether Supplementary Estimates will be presented at the same time the Budget is . MR. SCHREYER: That would be tantamount to the same thing, sir. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable Leader of the Opposition. MR. SPIVAK: This is to the First Minister and it may be that the matter should be referred to the Minister of Consumer Affairs or the Minister of Industry and Commerce, I'm not sure. I wonder if the government could indicate whether they have reviewed or monitored the potential or the likely increase in rents to take place in Manitoba, for rental accommoda­ tion. MR. SCHREYER: Mr. Speaker, there was some close analysis of that approximately 12, 18 months ago. There may have been continuing review analysis since then, I can't say for certain, but there was such kind of analysis carried out in the past. I'll take the question as notice and provide a more definitive answer. MR. SPIVAK: Well, I wonder then if the First Minister will be in a position to pos­ sibly . notice as to whether the government has considered what the increase in municipal taxes will do to rental increases in Manitoba. 712 March 26, 1975 ORAL QUESTIONS MR. SCHREYER: Well, Mr. Speaker, I suppose the answer to that is fairly self-evident in the sense that there is ample precedent for weighing that kind of problem . I think, for example, the fact that in 1965, in the mid-1960 's, the municipal tax rate did increase in the order of 17 percent - in 1965 or '66 , I forget exactly which of the two years - with correspond­ ing effect eventually on rental . MR . SPIVAK: I wonder if the First Minister is in a position to indicate whether rental increases have played a factor in th e increases in housing costs , which have made Winnipeg the highest cost of living increase in the past 12 months . MR . SCHREYER: Well , Mr . Speaker, I certainly reject the suggestion that on a 12- month basis that Winnipeg has that distinction . And certainly , if looked at in the course of a 4-year retrospective review, we find that the cost of living increase is relatively less in Winnipeg than in cities of metropolitan size anywhere else in Canada . MR . SPEAKER: The Honourable Member for Minnedosa. MR . DAVID BLAKE (Minnedosa): Mr . Speaker , my question is to the Honourable the Minister responsible for the Manitoba Public Insurance Corporation . I wonder if he could indi­ cate to us if we'll be receiving the annual statement of the corporation this week. MR . SPEAKER: The Honourable Minister. HON. BILLIE URUSKI (Minister for Manitoba Public Insurance Corporation) (St . George): Yes, I expect so . A MEMBER: Tomorrow ? MR . URUSKI: This week, possibly tomorrow . MR . SPEAKER: The Honourable Member for Assiniboia . MR . STEVE PATRICK (Assiniboia): Mr . Speaker, my question is to the Honourable Minister of Labour. Does the Honourable Minister have any studies or reports , or undertaken any studies which will forecast the unemployment rate in Manitoba ? MR .
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