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xxxxxcover stor y cover stor y He had big shoes to fill – metaphorically at least – but Mike Hosking has more than risen to the challenge with the help of just a little bit of magic. By Felicity Monk behind the mike Daunted? Oh no, wouldn’t use that word, says Mike like the fact that they have got to know Mike better as Hosking. This, in response to whether he felt taking over a person – particularly since he has had children, they from Paul Holmes’ 22-year reign over the Newstalk ZB can relate to him as a father and a family man. They breakfast programme, the highest rating radio show in have had a pretty long exposure to Mike on television the country, was a daunting thing. “Daunted means and in radio and they like what they get.” The feedback ‘Shit, I can’t do it,’ whereas I don’t doubt that I can do it. has been “very positive indeed. We’ve had strong It’s more of a privilege to be chosen. The biggest thing supportive comment – yup.” The station is in a ratings I think about is the history of the station. I’m only the fifth period at the moment (results will be out next month) breakfast host in 80 years, which is quite something.” and while Francis says he is not prepared to reveal how It was the week before Christmas when Hosking, the tracking is going, he will say: “I am very comfortable 44, replaced Holmes, who was enjoying some of his about where we sit – with Mike’s show and in general.” best ever ratings. The two swapped jobs, with Holmes Nose around various internet forums and opinion is taking the Saturday morning slot. The move had been naturally mixed. Listeners say he is “a devastatingly announced nearly two years in advance, so everyone stroppy interviewer”, “quick-witted and amusing”, “more had plenty of time to get used to the idea. Hosking arrogant than Holmes”, “smarmy”, “a motormouth”. Then says the whole thing worked out exactly the way it was there are the endless comments about his “bouffy hair”. supposed to. Much has been made of Hosking’s physical He says he is unbothered by the 3.30am starts and transformation following his sacking from TVNZ in 2004. the leap from working one to five days a week, but then The country watched in fascination as he morphed from Hosking is a man not bothered by much of anything. a conservative, pin-striped ‘suit’ to someone who looks “Life is busier,” he concedes, “but I’d hardly pretend like he might be a thespian, or possibly work in an that I am working 12 hours a day from dawn to dusk. advertising agency (a groovy one). He generally grew When you go from doing nothing to being gainfully hairy, some might say unkempt – the hair on his head don G N employed, then there’s always a bit of a contrast.” was unruly, sort of Fraggle-like, and he was permanently A L N Newstalk ZB boss Bill Francis says he had been stubbled. He paraded a number of frightful pairs of E ph “nurturing Hosking for the future. He took over our stripey trousers, a court-jestery velvet pair making E st : Saturday morning show which he made into a huge a particular impression. ph success, and he became clearly, in my mind, the logical On the day of this interview he is clean-shaven, GRA successor to Paul.” Francis says he thinks people like he wears his trademark striped slacks, a pair of busy photo that Hosking is contemporary and open-minded. “They sneakers, what looks like a band T-shirt and a silver 16 sunday sunday 17 xxxxxcover stor y bangle. His St Bernard dog eyes are intelligent and quick, inside their droopy have to have private lives. The whole argument about because you are in the frames. I ask Hosking what he makes of people’s interest in his appearance. public eye you somehow have to give up everything of yourself is complete “I don’t actually think the public has a fascination with my appearance,” he crap. You give up what you want to and some people are happy throwing says. “I think certain elements of the media have a fascination with it; they themselves in magazines and turning up at events and stuff, and good luck to write about it. I don’t think anyone gives a rat’s arse about what I look like, or them; I think that is their call, not mine. If you do court publicity, if you court don’t look like, or ever have.” attention, than you have bought into something that you can no longer control.” Hosking’s reinvention wasn’t only limited to a wardrobe transplant. Last year, Privacy is an issue close to Hosking’s heart. In 2003 he and Marie took New while having his portrait painted for TV show The Sitting, he told artist Marty Idea magazine through the courts in an attempt to keep paparazzi shots of their Welch that he used to be “too driven and too serious, worked too hard”, and then 18-month old twins from being published. They lost at the High Court and that his “pants used to be too high”. It’s true, he says. “I used to be a bit nerdy again at the Court of Appeal. But Hosking says he is enormously proud of like that.” What happened? “Dunno, you know, I don’t know, getting fired, the case. “It cost me more money than I had and I didn’t want to do it and mid-life crisis, I dunno, I don’t know. Having kids helps.” Was there some sort I shouldn’t have had to have done it… But the decision is now quoted all over of epiphany involved? “No”. Hosking thinks it may have been more of a gradual the world.” He points out that J.K. Rowling cited the case when she fought realisation. “I think one of the great lessons I have learned in life is that stuff and won a landmark appeal court ruling in an attempt to ban publication of will come to you, as opposed to you madly thrashing yourself and chasing and long-lens pictures taken of her 19-month-old son. being desperate to climb to the top of the ladder... I am a lot more comfortable “The girls have been left alone,” Hosking continues, “and other people’s kids with myself these days than I used to be. Stuff generally happens for the good are left alone and if you look around the media, certainly in this country, now overall, and if you are more relaxed about it then you know you are better off people’s kids aren’t photographed and that was as a direct result of that case. for it. You won’t die so young, I think, is the theory.” Once, he says, his pants were too high. Now he is more comfortable with himself Hosking and Hawkesby, leaving an Auckland restaurant It drew the line. It had a chilling effect and now they know full well that if they Kate Hawkesby, former TVNZ Breakfast co-presenter, current colleague and ever go after kids again and get carried away, there is a case there that will be rumoured girlfriend (more about that later), says although his “amazing work I never did particularly well at school. I got through but nothing more. I passed perceive that you can be positive, their view on the world is that there has to be cited and they know full well that they will probably lose.” ethic” and professionalism have not changed, the way he views work has. what I needed to pass and got out and that was it. I doubt I would have something wrong. It is more their thing than mine. It doesn’t bother me in the Hosking has a theory about print media in New Zealand: because the country “He’s always been kind of 40 before he was 20, and I think he probably hit a succeeded in university, so I never went.” slightest,” he says, sounding not the slightest bit bothered. “You can call me is so small and there is a lack of “so-called celebrities”, they are invented. “I am point at which he turned that around. I think that a lot of the ambition and the This curious blend of self-deprecation and swaggery confidence can be whatever you like. I am what I am and if you don’t believe it, that’s fine.” not a celebrity; I am a working broadcaster; that’s all I am. So you suddenly drive has gone and that sort of desperation for success that was suits and confounding. ‘Disingenuous’ is a word that has been used by more than one Hosking muses on happiness a little further before saying he is never happier become more than you really are and that’s an invention. The whole thing takes a sharp belt and Hugo Boss shoes – that ideal of a corporate achiever – I think interviewer in the past to describe Hosking, particularly in the context of his than when he is with his seven-year-old twin girls, Ruby and Bella. “I love my off on itself and stories are created and invented. So all I say is you draw a line: he has worked out that your greatest achievements in life are things like your self-proclaimed optimism.