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1 THE STATE OF ARIZONA ARIZONA STATE PARKS BOARD TRANSCRIPT OF AUDIO RECORDED PUBLIC MEETING Tubac, Arizona March 20, 2013 10:00 a.m. Miller Certified Reporting, LLC PO Box 513 Litchfield Park, Arizona 85340 (P)623-975-7472 (F)623-975-7462 Transcribed by: Dawn Archambo C.E.R.T. 00231 Miller Certified Reporting, LLC 2 A PUBLIC MEETING, BEFORE THE ARIZONA STATE PARKS BOARD, convened on March 20, 2013, at Tubac Presidio State Historic Park, One Burruel Street, Tubac, Arizona. APPEARANCES: Mr. Walter Armer, Jr. Board Member Mr. R.J. Cardin, Board Member Mr. Alan Everett, Board Member Mr. Kent Ennis, Deputy Director Ms. Vanessa Hickman State Land Commissioner Mr. Bryan Martyn, Director Mr. Jay Ream, Deputy Director Mr. Kelly Stetson, Board Administrator OTHERS PRESENT: Mr. Rich Bowman Ms. Ellen Bilbrey, Public Information Officer, State Parks Mr. John Driggs, former Phoenix Mayor Ms. Gwen Griffin, Volunteer Ms. Laurie Hachtel, Assistant Attorney General Mr. Shaw Kinsley, Executive Director of Friends of Tubac Presidio State Park Ms. Mindy Maddock, Chamber of Commerce Mr. Rudy Molera, Santa Cruz County Mr. Carlos Rivera, Santa Cruz County Manager Ms. Doris Pulsifer, Chief of Resources, Public Programs Miller Certified Reporting, LLC 3 1 MR. CHAIRMAN: We’ll proceed without her, and 2 there’s just a few things we won’t be able to do. 3 First of all, I would like our newest Board 4 Member to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, and since 5 we don't have a flag... 6 (Pledge of Allegiance by Members) 7 MR. CHAIRMAN: First of all, Kelly, would you 8 call the roll? 9 MR. STETSON: Yes, Mr. Chair. Chairman Armer? 10 MR. ARMER: Here. 11 MR. STETSON: Mr. Everett? 12 MR. EVERETT: Here. 13 MR. STETSON: Mr. Cardin? 14 MR. CARDIN: Present. 15 MR. STETSON: Ms. Hickman? Mr. Landry? Mr. 16 Brnovich? Ms. Daggett? 17 MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay. We do not have a quorum 18 at this point, but we will proceed. We will start by 19 introducing ourselves on the Board. I’m Wally Armer. I 20 live in Vail, Arizona. I make sure that people know 21 that’s Arizona, not Colorado. And I am the livestock 22 representative on the Board. And thank you, Vanessa, for 23 getting us Legal today. 24 Miller Certified Reporting, LLC 4 1 MS. HICKMAN: I know. I apologize for being 2 tardy. 3 MR. CHAIRMAN: No problem. 4 MS. HICKMAN: Okay. 5 MR. EVERETT: I’m Alan Everett. I’m a Member 6 at large from Yavapai County. 7 MR. CARDIN: And I’m R.J. Cardin. I live in 8 Cave Creek, Arizona, and I’m the Director of Maricopa 9 County Parks and Recreation Department. 10 MS. HICKMAN: And I’m Vanessa Hickman. I live 11 in Phoenix, Arizona and I’m the State Land Commissioner. 12 MR. MARTYN: I’m Bryan Martyn. I live in Pinal 13 County and I am the Director of Arizona State Parks. 14 MR. REAM: I’m Jay Ream, Deputy Director, Parks 15 Division. 16 MR. ENNIS: I’m Kent Ennis, Deputy Director, 17 Arizona State Parks. 18 MS. HACHTEL: Good morning, I’m Laurie Hachtel. 19 I’m with the Attorney General’s office and I represent 20 Arizona State Parks. 21 MR. STETSON: And I’m Kelly Stetson. I’m the 22 Executive Assistant to the Director and the Administrator 23 to the Parks Board. 24 MS. BILBREY: Ellen Bilbrey, Public Information 25 Officer, State Parks. Miller Certified Reporting, LLC 5 1 MS. PUSLIFER: Doris Pulsifer, Chief of 2 Resources, Public Programs, Arizona State Parks. 3 MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. At this point, we’re 4 going to call for the public call to the public, and I do 5 have several, so I would request if you could try and 6 limit your remarks to about three minutes, with one 7 exception at the end, I will give a little freedom to our 8 last call to the public. 9 But with that being said, from Santa Cruz 10 County, Rudy Molera. 11 MR. MOLERA: Mr. Chairman, State Parks Board, 12 I’d like to welcome you all to Santa Cruz County. Mr. 13 Martyn, it’s great to have you here, a former colleague 14 of mine, the Supervisors State Association. It’s good to 15 have you here. 16 I want to first all thank our community of 17 Tubac because they’re exemplary. They have pretty much 18 shown the State of Arizona what it is to take charge and, 19 boy, do they take charge. This Park, I don’t know if 20 you’ve had the privilege of walking around and visiting, 21 but they’ve done an excellent job of it and really kept 22 it going. It’s an incredible partnership that we’ve 23 joined. 24 And we have a little transition. A new group 25 is going to take over. We’re excited and look forward to Miller Certified Reporting, LLC 6 1 a continued relationship with the Tubac community. It’s 2 an honor and privilege once again. Thank you. Thank you 3 for being here. 4 MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you for all your support, 5 the Board of Supervisors, if you would relay that to 6 everyone, I would appreciate it. 7 MR. MOLERA: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 8 MR. CHAIRMAN: Next, the County Manager, Carlos 9 Rivera. 10 MR. RIVERA: Mr. Chairman, Members of the 11 Board, thank you for coming down here and having your 12 meeting here at Tubac. As Supervisor Molera mentioned, 13 the Board of Supervisors approved an agreement recently 14 with Friends of Tubac Presidio to take over from the 15 Tubac Historical Society. 16 The Historical Society has done a wonderful job 17 out here. They’ve kept the place up and it was 18 unfortunate that due to some internal issues they decided 19 that they want to terminate the agreement. 20 My charge was to sit down with all the groups 21 involved to try to negotiate a smooth transition. I wish 22 it would have gone a lot smoother than I’d planned. But 23 it is effective work (indiscernible). 24 Today, the Board of Supervisors approved the 25 renewal of the (indiscernible) with you all, to continue Miller Certified Reporting, LLC 7 1 to keep the Park open. The one change that I did talk to 2 Mr. Ream about was making it effective for three years. I 3 don’t want to have to go back and do it annually. We 4 know the State is still burdened financially and when the 5 State does finally complete (indiscernible) we’ll take it 6 back, and we’re fine with that too. But a three-year 7 agreement with the escape clause in there was fine with 8 us. 9 I just want to thank you for coming down, and 10 Mr. Molera mentioned, the Friends of Presidio and the 11 Historical Society have been wonderful people to work 12 with and hopefully they’ll continue to provide the 13 wonderful service to you all and to the community, 14 because this is a great benefit to Tubac and the County. 15 MR. CHAIRMAN: Again, thank you. And for 16 anyone who is now aware of it, the reason Santa Cruz -– 17 we have our IGA our Inner Governmental Agreement with the 18 County. It’s pretty much the only way we as a State 19 agency can operate other than some real extreme 20 situations. 21 So we were very appreciative of Santa Cruz 22 County for stepping up to the plate three years ago when 23 we first started negotiating this. And certainly happy 24 to see it continue. So thanks again. 25 Shaw Kinsley. Miller Certified Reporting, LLC 8 1 MR. KINSLEY: Well I join my distinguished 2 colleagues from the County in welcoming you all here. 3 It’s a great time to come to the Parks Board here and I 4 hope you’re happy here and hope that you enjoy your stay. 5 In my remarks I want to salute the Tubac 6 Historical Society, which last December made the decision 7 to cancel their agreement with Santa Cruz County to 8 operate the Tubac Presidio, and we’re pleased that the 9 Board of Supervisor has transferred that agreement now to 10 the Friends of the Tubac Presidio. And we’ve got several 11 board members of the friends here. 12 Unfortunately, there has arisen a dispute 13 regarding the leadership of the Historical Society, and 14 that dispute has frozen all of the bank accounts of the 15 Tubac Historical Society, which include three accounts 16 that pertain directly to the Presidio. The funds have 17 always been separated, they have never been co-mingled, 18 there are separate titles on the accounts and yet they 19 are frozen in this internal dispute. 20 The Presidio and all of its volunteers and 21 management has no interest at all in the Historical 22 Society dispute. There’s no connection between the 23 Presidio and either faction of the Historical Society. 24 But the funds that are frozen are absolutely critical to 25 the success of the Presidio. Miller Certified Reporting, LLC 9 1 Our gift shop has been hampered by low 2 inventory. The freeze has limited our ability to take 3 credit cards. We’re hoping to get that fixed today, and 4 as we head into the summer months with no winter 5 visitors, these funds are going to be even more critical.