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Ongaonga community, 12 April, 2-3.30pm Now, holding the District (and Ongaonga) back: Living beyond our means, local government Smallness disadvantage for youth (18) employment salaries Group Ong-1: opportunities Lack of employment for our trained young people Now, value most in the District: Lack of social connection Irrigator water-use Clean air Lack of good internet Rural valuations for waters unequal / unfair No traffic congestion Lack of volunteers, ageing volunteers Rules and regulations Heritage Values Shortage of rental properties – social housing? Red tape, bureaucracy, slow consenting, building Safe community CHB - Good water supply consents, fireplaces, titles, amount of paperwork, Geographical location Future: regional / connected Now, holding the District (and Ongaonga) back: Small, personal, inclusive community Future: Lack of commercial infrastructure for small business Small thriving value added business (with Responsible with conserving water value our water in Waipawa, while prices in Napier and Hastings too opportunities to stay) More local businesses high Businesses and opportunities for young Community No good freight service in the CHB District Multicultural, connected between young and old, Family connection No area in CHB for container that is MAF rural-urban, internet Employment approved / container drop points - transitional Beautiful clean environment Self sufficiency facility Expand Ongaonga initiative and plant 1 kowhai tree Value our water Lack of population, e.g. Taupo is subsidising for every person in CHB. (involve everyone in Busy town businesses to start up $20k growing and planting) People wanting to buy in the area and set up Incentives for growth Rubbish, free rubbish disposal to keep environment business Future: Water farming, bigger not nec better Well populated Group Ong-3: Mountain bike and walking tracks Sustainable no empty shop fronts, looks vibrant Now, value most in the District: Work with iwi No empty shopfronts Outdoors Museum development in Ongaonga Some form of entertainment, events Nature Hotel in Ongaonga-social hub community Restaurants Clean green Water meters PT Museum Water tanks on new houses Incentives water storage (i.e. Rainwater tanks) Sense of community Grey water at minimum Bike track Waipukurau to Ongaonga Museum Tourism facilities, tourism opportunities (council Local School Group Ong-4: lead) Shop Now, value most in the District: RV park Access to water Environment, Rivers Long term Red cross, Connect to doctors Beaches GE free Bush Group Ong-2: Diversity: meet world, orchard, farming, cropping, Security: crime free (almost), community valves Now, value most in the District: vineyard, tourist Sunshine History Tourism Rural schools Outdoor environment – Bush / Forest parks Local and NZ ownership Senior citizens - Rivers Now, holding the District (and Ongaonga) back: Active kiwis Small Villages (but everything that we need is here) Rates affordability Activities for children: cycle way, walking tracks, Social connection \housing affordability skate power
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Indoor pool removal houses, sections too small, detract from Quality of life Civic theatre + others ambience of village Rural life Now, holding the District (and Ongaonga) back: More and attractive street lighting Democracy – freedom of speech, accessible local Lack of finance- whole community Facilities for youth national politicians Lack of PT affordable Non consented accommodation in area Now, holding the District (and Otane) back: Local industries for youth/ mature Otane cemetery lack of footpaths and lighting Good paying jobs DP guidelines / rules not enforced unbalanced regulation, too much red tape Lack of communications Lack of PT to Waipukurau and Hastings money Business support groups missing Itinerant population greed Business hubs Transport- major issue debate Lack of good roading: bypass in Waipawa hard to Future: over regulation open car poor Water fear Need bypass in Waipawa Better communication Fb page: example Oamaru leakage of labour/ money Road cross sections too steep to open doors Want CHB to be a destination Future: Lack of attractiveness of town Area is unique: walking cycle track- Otane – good elderly care, flats Lack of recycling Waipawa caring community Future: Pop supporting local business / economy clean water Good and adequate Water supply for the towns More employment more CHB facilities for youth good health accessible services Waste water treatment improvement More doctors school improve recycling, reducing waste (packages etc) Council housing for the elderly businesses / retailers less kids off to boarding school outside CHB, or Review the current minimum section size-needs to employment CHB has boarding school, or better school buses be larger good infrastructure retirement villages, with self-contained units More consultation for planning applications crime free job diversification, less reliance on agriculture Relocated buildings-rules and standards need to be caring communities clean and healthy environment, community upheld, enforced community banking supportive, pride in community, less littering Beautification continued – removed of all old valuing people and environment over money Ongaonga: emphasise historic value of village hospital buildings and development of area transformative ideas Mountain bike tracks in Waipuk and Waipawa Drains kept clear small / medium local business country markets Otane community, 12 April, 6-8pm Group Ot-2: transition towns – process to build local resilience Now, value most in the District: clean local energy Group Ot-1: Water quality Now, value most in the District: The people: family, neighbours Group Ot-3: Old NZ values + amenities values Now, value most in the District: Safety: a safe community-friendly Safety community support and spirit Churches Space – not over crowded Trees and space Innovative homes based industries and businesses Climate In easy reach of larger community support systems (72 small businesses around Otane) Freedom of enterprise Well-resourced school and community groups Old NZ-Values: fire brigade, local school Friendliness Security in the home (neighbourly support) Now, holding the District (and Otane) back: Community facilities: sports, schools Now, holding the District (and Otane) back: Some development in Otane spoils the atmosphere: Central location Infrastructure: water, sewage, roading
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Employment opportunities Culture – multicultural / diversity in ethnicity Public transport Council attitude (in the past) Arts, crafts Railway transport Building consent issues (in the past) Access to cities Build a dam Public transport options We value what happens in our little communities No dam Look after our community character Group Ot-5: Future: Emergency services OK Now, value most in the District: Businesses in all the buildings, shops all full, Now, holding the District (and Otane) back: Diverse population successful small businesses Lack of infra for tourism, no dump station, not Affordability Involvement of the community with vision of campervan friendly Sporting successes Council, KM: leverage Infrastructure allows development Local experience is valued nationally and Bustling, rural, light industry, social but keep the We need controlled development internationally (good lifestyle) trees and space Not motorhome friendly – no dump station so go Informality and freedom Full employment past CHB Character of townships within district farmer market Full shops (businesses in all building) Tourism opportunity through camping – railway Semi – rural Small, successful businesses esplanade Pleroma (social service) New vision from ‘new’ council representatives Tourist facilities – showers / dump stations etc. Valuing local history Build the dam Finance Now, holding the District (and Otane) back: Tourist attractions (i.e. like the art deco train trip, Employment – how do we encourage new business Lack of understanding of the needs of other local market) to the area communities in District Create support / working groups for community / Future: Lack of water area projects led by council representatives CHB as destination, tourism + businesses Entrenched views – we need to be more Review subdivision sizes and infill housing Encourage investment in healthcare and rest home openminded Do not make Otane a transient community facilities Employment opportunities Leave Otane ‘A Living Lifestyle’ More motor home tourists – CHB as a destination Lack of transport options smaller sections most have new build or relocatable Marketed to international and national markets Future: to be brought up to new build standard Mixed community and bucking trend of rural NZ More provision to assist those who want to capture build the dam Pride in all communities – clean, tidy, mown roof water Schools leading the way More support for sustainable building / living Group Ot-4: Beautiful entrance to CHB – planting More employment / job Now, value most in the District: Rest homes / health care – encourage investment Grow sustainably Arts+crafts Super schools Encourage innovation Access to rivers, sea mountain (greater Target tourists Clean rivers / waterways environment) New business and employment Support young achievers People (the community) great mix Rates rebate to new businesses (incentivised) Sound infrastructure – quality / affordability Safe place to live More support for new business Suggestions of what grows well in area’s Rural status with local feel – café’s facilities, Uber Healthy and fit communities markets Public dump station Gardens with edible plants and foods in Facilities – cycle tracks, heated pool , turf, courts, Connection between all communities – cycleways communities recreation etc. Cycleway link from Havelock north to Otane – Provision for those who want to capture water Ambience of community complete existing cycleways without penalty Schools – Kohanga Signage to communities Sustainable houses / living – council to support
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+ urbanism instead of barriers Future: Facilities available in distinct (good use of) Plant more trees (to capture water) PT Now, holding the District (and Otane) back: Water Education policy / procedures followed and transparent Sporting complex – lights (Otane) Pride in the towns promotion of CHB (social media and on Demand Accommodation for elderly – warm homes Incentives for businesses to move here TV etc.) Strategic planning for long term primary industry World class tourist attractions lack of external investment and visibility “bringing GE free Well paid jobs and business opportunities outside in” Excellent education and retraining facilities transport infrastructure (public transport) Group Ot-6: Community vege garden older teens move away Now, value most in the District: Public transport older people retiring (need retirement villages) History of the area More cycleway Range of work / business Culture Dam Easy access to information Village feel Good roads and footpaths Red tape Large properties Mowed rural roadsides Future: Flexible Lifestyle Retails / cafes busy Intermediate or middle school Community More connected with each other aware of what Improving appeal of CHB college Variety of retail local businesses Attracting doctors to CHB Property size Variety of eating places CHB Fibre and $support for businesses to connect Identity Incentives for business to move here and residents Retirement village Rural feel / landscape Public transport Transportation Safe Railway – tourist attraction Attract investment Property price / value Grow market Support for social services Now, holding the District (and Otane) back: Extend cycleways – Otane Growing and supporting local business and events Lack of forward thinking, nothing for youth big Infrastructure Events that attract a wider audience thinking Tourism Signs (road) that we can read Lack of cooperation between towns and within Encourage more home Communication between employers, college, communities Ownership / development students, job seekers Water restrictions Trees not being allowed Price of alcohol lic for fundraisers Jobs Keratin m’s from boundary Costs involved for community organise to use Current development community resources Transport to anywhere Group Ot-7: Platform for launching / expanding Lack of infrastructure – lights, over loaded soon, Now, value most in the District: (new) business water / dam, sewer, footpaths Entrepreneurial business, variety of business, Camera at recycling (eyesore) Business knowledge sharing Porangahau community, 13 April, 10-11.30am Promotion of local business / events Facilities throughout the district Retailer shop hours School Nicole Henderson, landscape architect Social media could be better now than was Sports clubs Group Por-1: Escalating rates / lack of rate payers Community spirit (Whanau) Now, value most in the District: Signage in Otane Improvement in parks / facilities (cared for) People, supportive community Council building – lack of staff with knowledge / Want to participate Emergency services: red cross, fire, ambulance, Experian Entrepreneurial business police, coordinating
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Cultural heritage, history, identity Tangata whenua Division in the community Rural / environment innovation Not using the resources / facilities here in Healthy: young and old people Our lands Porangahau Now, holding the District (and Porangahau) back: Now, holding the District (and Porangahau) back: Future: Water quality deteriorating: clean, environment, Lack of opportunities for jobs and training Upgrade sewage and water supply sustainable Drug use Grow pop Resources: education, health, housing Lack of viability for accommodation for truck drivers, More local employ Travel for work other workers / travellers for work Unify community Rubbish: what to do? Old sites new systems Poor sewage system – water, environment and Affordable housing for local Big tip in Porangahau leaching heath Represent tangata whenua at Council Future: Future: Heap of employment Combining and rationalising all recycling and McDonalds Growing population rubbish around Porangahau Employment for youth United community Communication around, e.g. digging up the road Farming needs to change Good quality low rates housing and more near Urupa Building new thinking Tar seal road to marae. Pavements around town Education, every child needs to be bilingual Dam More Tangata whenua owning business’s in CNB Water: drink, clean, swim, kai, recreation, irrigation Water Clean, healthy water Access education Tangata whenua on the council (more) – one from Bi-lingual Group Por-3: each Hapu Utilize Now, value most in the District: Encourage tourism and people to our community by Community skills Marae and other buildings church, pub, hall, school upgrading facilities, roading, footpath etc. signage. Safety Our community / people Educated people in systems and business owning Sustainable Good roads etc. Potential Facilities golf course, courts, garage, shop Affordable housing for locals Utilization power Beach river “we value our land highly” environment. More housing for elderly (affordable) Tourism: links to national infrastructure Clean water Plans to keep Whanau on their lands Cycle Nga taonga tuku iho – our identity community value Education on economic development for land Walk (our cultural value) development for the owners, horticulture, Trek Health, employment, housing, education agriculture, tourism, performing arts, hospitality, Consultation / Communication council and people River, environment aquaculture, Whakapapa (culture), environmental (e.g. drains in village) Now, holding the District (and Porangahau) back: Division in community Group Por-4: Group Por-2: Not using local Now, value most in the District: Now, value most in the District: Lack of quality housing Spaciousness Quality of water No employment – high rates of unemployment Families Sense of belonging Lack of accommodation. Low quality housing, high Volunteers Diversity of community rates Free camp ground Education Dwindling roll at primary school Sand dunes Heath Lack of leadership (quality) Events Environment Draw more people back home Space Treaty right Upgrade our sewerage system and water Environment - coast- beaches – sky – river
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People Council communication – local leadership – local Homestead Community – open Maori community welcoming, contact Rural helicopter supporting Hapu, goodwill Economic activity, full shops, industry development, Sports clubs in CHB River is iconic part of who we are less cows Churches Kaimoana Industry development for CHB Pilates, yoga, keep fit programme Activities – country club, marae, hall, fire brigade, Forestry, Ernslaw – services, accommodation Access, good roading rugby, netball Land based industry – Plax Farms, no lifestyle blocks / economic units Volunteers Tourism – selling products, local skills, wearing, Good facilities in the towns Hall, pub, garage, dairy cultural tourism (just starting) Beaches and rivers Visitors Walking access – to longest place name, along the CHB: - (great sporting facilities / play grounds / Free camping is wonderful coast, along the river pools) – (picture theatre) – libraries / holiday Longest place name Marine reserve programmes) – (museum) – (beaches / rivers) Community garden Presenting the community well – main street Now, holding the District (and Flemington) back: Community activity – walks, riding, beach, upgrade, signage, tidy private property Lack of cell phone and internet coverage, problems organised events Environmental health: water, waste, sewage with ph landlines as well School – very inclusive Upgrade facilities use recycle sewage Lack of upkeep of roading and power poles Sand dunes – estuary – nature Some emergency roads unsealed Value Additional note for Porangahau Lack of school buses Red cross - doctors Future: Kids leaving the district for schooling Now, holding the District (and Porangahau) back: Town centre landscape improvements (as per Limited childcare options and facilities Employment – holding us back Nicole Henderson) Not enough GPs Lack of signage Sign of longest plan name (as per Nicole Lack of support for rural elderly people Lack of maintenance of streetscape and buildings Henderson). Long waiting times for emergency services Environmental health deteriorating Lack of volunteers in the future State of infra Flemington community, 13 April, 2-3.30pm Piers on road sealing Future: Land line Development and jobs Group F-1: School bus availability / zoning (primary / secondary Services supporting local jobs in remote Now, value most in the District: affected, potential of children being sent out of communities, e.g. for forestry Great school4 district for schooling due to location / remoteness) Tidier streets and buildings Strong community Restricted childcare options during school holidays Full shops Rural lifestyle, sheep beef farming – limited childcare facilities Fewer cows Rural delivery (post) Number of GP’s / waiting lists Main street upgrade (Nicole Henderson) Community facilities, halls, fire brigade, halls, pony Lack of volunteers Car parking at cemetery, drainage club, tennis count, lake station facilities (polo, Future: Getting people into village recycled, inter school, mud run, cross county) Keep rural people connected within the community More visitors Value rural helicopters and the limited st Johns New blood into the community Longest place name stamp service available Skids attending local sec schools Acoustics in the hall Wallingford rifle club Easy access to healthcare Hall entrance fixed up, drainage, car parking Wallingford sports Good schooling Maintenance, tidying up Churches – Wanstead / Wallingford Diversity of ages in pop Community project – gardening Ranui farm park More and healthy homes
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Better IT to help people work from home, diverse Retail challenge – scale / internet bad communication services jobs Job diversification (AG or Nothing) lack of smart land-use Make volunteers feel valued H2O (lack of meters / inconsistency around fresh badly treating rate payers Ngahapupu Rd sealed H20) in Waipawa and Waipukurau Bus stop on SH2 unsafe Employing employees with families Waste – inconsistency in charges, needs scales, Future: Healthy homes and keeping them maintained change by weight / plastic / human red carpet instead of red tape Cell phone / internet coverage improvement – Disconnected / non-contributing people Bus stop should get off SH2 encourage new people to come to the community Future: Jobs by offering availability for people to work from home Improved connectivity (cell phone and internet) Attracting talent (IT) MTB park (mountain bike) High-paying jobs Lack of rural housing available Better supported business developed (more diverse Public Transport Need more volunteers – make them valued jobs), e.g. CHOOK business Happy, health, educated community Greater, but well managed pop Business incubators, using new tech, welcoming, Group F-2: Better promotion for tourists encouraging business Now, value most in the District: GM allowed Tourism: make sure there are things to do Facilities, parks, pools, sports venues, lifestyle Increase profitability for agriculture sector: Rua Retirement village People Dam / market control / diversification options Irrigated HB Connectivity No smaller than 2ha (now 1 acre) Community spirit 2ha sized subdivision limit. Protect the productive Group Tak-2: Climate land more / no more unplanned villages Now, value most in the District: Beaches Tar seal more of Ngawaka Rd Pride Good farming Public campgrounds and beaches not having Community facilities, public toilets Collaboration between levels of education permanent residents Arts, churches Natural beauty More employment opportunities for youth / qualified Businesses that make community thrive Good access people / via business Hub / supporting new Schools, play centre Beaches businesses Sport clubs Ability to farm to without a stick hanging over us of Protect the right to farm Farms Horizons Waikato Fire brigade Now, holding the District (and Flemington) back: Takapau community, 13 April, 6-8pm Health centre Poor communication infrastructure Arts Centre Lack of protection of agricultural area in DP Group Tak-1: Rubbish and recycling Lack of protection of natural beauty in DP Now, value most in the District: Library High rates Opportunities in the towns Marae Lack of dam Quality of soils Now, holding the District (and Takapau) back: Retail struggling Location in NZ Lack of pride, community not kept clean Not enough diversity in jobs Weather Lack of license drivers Water management, should have meters Affordability Lack of cameras and street lighting Inconsistency of waste management Schools Slow consent processes Better DP to protect AG / beauty People and community Youth initiatives Rates. Too high Holding the District (and Takapau) back: Police Station Lack of population over large area = high rates certainty of water supply Bus stops
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Drugs and theft Children achieving in school Now, holding the District (and Takapau) back: Future: Children active and participating Having lots of goods, but no sharing of knowledge / Green waste compost More police / Maori warden processes / resources Maintain and extend footpaths Governance: Local board Lack of opportunity for youth Linking bike track to Waipukurau South Local employment: mowing berms (paid by Council) Lack of support for elderly Community events Communication point Lack of Police Retirement village Free Wi-Fi and faster Drug use Marae + employment More businesses and shops Supporting local businesses Info centre, manned by? Community board Future: Policing, cameras Local transport between rural towns More employment Improve consent processes Renewable energy Fitness programme at hall Group Tak-4: Attracting young people to community Improve town lighting Now, value most in the District: Good housing, no poverty Driver licensing Lifestyle and climate Ideas: building rehab centre (drugs), pensioner / Maori crafting Community kaumata flats, petrol station, truck stop Combined club days Social facilities Sorting out the bus stop location issue Phone box Now, holding the District (and Takapau) back: More Doctors Help centres i.e. drugs Lack of jobs Consenting process Train station Profitability of farming New location for sewage pond Sewage problems Group Tak-3: Telecommunications Group Tak-6: Now, value most in the District: Future: Now, value most in the District: Sports facilities, health centre, scouting groups, jobs Major employer: silver ferns farm RSA irrigation would bring better and more jobs, more Good support in community People, family, whanau, multicultural housing, more services Central to everywhere Infra, lack of issues with roading and pipes Fibre Affordable housing Local industry i.e.: Honeyfarm, Taylormade gates Council to support with consents Health centre Great schools Council to stick to its core business: roads, water Cheap parking Beautiful environment Keep rates stable Now, holding the District (and Takapau) back: Now, holding the District (and Takapau) back: Reliance on one industry (Silver Ferns Farm) Bad water Group Tak-5: Not enough to do for youth, crime, lack of policing in Hard to have pride in community Now, value most in the District: Takapau Small population Strong rural community Groups and facilities and clubs don’t work together, Lack of businesses Environment and its potential resources not shared, / efficiently used Lack of support for businesses by Council Safe Lack of secure funding for our health centre Lack of mobile / broadband coverage Climate Future: Rates too high Seasonal fruit/vege Better look: Mowing berms, Sydney Street, Village is located off the main road Life style Charlotte St Access to public transport Housing affordable Lighting and welcoming signs at entrances Not maintaining the visual look of the twon School Policing Future: Potential Services for elderly, old people leaving
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Funding for health Locality to beaches, bush and mountains Helping to preserve EQ prone buildings GP Mix of rural and town community Resthome complex so elderly can stay in the More support for business Beautiful environment community More activities for youth, BMX, skateboard Health centre Charge logging companies for damaging the Bus service coming into town, shelter Great life for a growing kids/family roundabouts Internet Great leisure activities Work for students Smaller, friendly atmosphere Bus between Waipuk and Waipawa Group Tak-7: Meals on wheels Promote Lake Whatuma for non motorised activities Now, value most in the District: Dementia-ward (rowing, swimming, sailing) Rural community bonding and spirit Climate Dam needs action and ideas Rec centre, arts, yoga, clubs Pace of life Takapau: Local industry – Kintoil honey, Taylor Similar to others WK2 made gates, 4 square shop, health centre Holding the District back Now Now, holding the District (and Takapau) back: Lack of community ownership caring, friendly, intimate, small community Vandalism Students not focusing on academic subjects family orientated, extended family, Grandchildren Low quality water in Takapau, lack of pressure and People with a vision for creating new employment pool, skate park, splash pad, boot camps, heaps of sub lines leading to more scum opportunities activities Rubbish dump high charges Lack of pathways for young people i.e.: Safe Lack of parental involvement and supervision of apprenticeships Size of schools growing generation Lack of driver education for young people Activities for the Elderly Future: Need a variety of jobs for all ages Playground, cycle ways Community welcoming package How does Council work with Higgins Contractors, is Theatre and cafes More activities for youth it contracted or paid individuals EIT courses, great to do free CHB retirement village Not enough children attending local college Medical centre-ambulance LTP: housing for the elderly Future Holding the District back DP: zoning: lifestyle blocks close to town used more Round about or something more efficient at Need large employers for more opportunity for intensively Tavistock Corner young people Clean well maintained houses and buildings Showcasing, promoting the district to other cities in Attracting Retailers The Dam NZ Need more Doctors Thriving industries and employment opportunities Logo that promotes the town More local information for new people CBD growth No empty shops Lack of progress on dam Life style blocks to be regulated, land to be utilised Need another Doctor Lack of retirement village efficiently Containers for pop up shops on Hills Honda old Lack of identity and tourist opportunities section Future Waipukurau Community, 10 April, 6-8 Attract people to start up new businesses Opportunities for young to come to or stay Weekly market Small villages rejuvenated WK1 Make sure there is always a swimming pool and Marae in Waipukurau completed and active Now library at Waipuk and Waipawa Young people to have driver’s license, defensive Good social economic More sporting fields driving courses Raising family Infrastructure needs updating Expand EIT Cities close proximity Taking ownership and being involved with Council Trade courses
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Need to be a hub Primary school, size, staff lack of IT Lifestyle slower pace lack of advertising WK3 Access to beaches lack of population Now Climate lack of high paying jobs Small community, friendly, low pop growth keeps Cost of housing, sections lack of advertising ourselves housing affordable Business options – shops and available businesses water restrictions and quality Natural environment Increasing attractiveness of Russell Park Future Short distances to larger places Holding the District back retirement village No sprawl Services – waste water etc university Great facilities-splash pad, skate park, indoor pool, Lack of Council guidance for new businesses amalgamation HB sports stadium Access to information for new business motorhome friendly town Climate Info for visitors, newcomers, could be digital businesses from home, ultrafast broadband (e.g. Local shops cover all bases Footpath quality game developers) The river, bird corridor and recreation Parochialism Waipuk-Waipawa EIT more courses Lake Whatuma Large section options v’s small section options Future proof your infrastructure building, water and Holding back Future sewage etc Cell phone, broadband bad Footpath maintenance with the elderly in mind What could the council invest in to safeguard our Waiting on dam Support new and existing businesses future e.g. the dam Slow bureaucratic processes More appealing to visitors, amenities, walking, Earthquake prone buildings cycling WK6 Droughts Web based visitor info Now Unreliable rainfall More attractions within CHB Free parking Transport commute in and out Website People/community groups Sewage pond, too close to the river and cost of Future proofing social housing Facilities – pool/stadium/parks treatment Health service Too much emphasis on the farmers, town is WK5 Lifestyle important too Now Beaches Future good medical services Climate Secure and environmentally safe water storage good schools Whatuma Lake/rivers system good roads Education schools Healthy rivers and lakes voluntary services Cycleways Schools coping with increased rolls swimming pool Central access to other parts of NZ Inclusive community sporting facilities Mountains Lake rejuvenated central location Recreation: sporting opportunities Habitat restoration/beautification via native planting library Friendliness, active community Employment/training (model like Otorohanga) climate Change of Council vision Job creation-a business hub situation Little Theatre Retail services Friendly people Not a big city WK4 Holding the District back: Urban roading Now rates too high Change of council vision Health lack of employment for youth Holding the District back
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Low police numbers/hours Youth retention recognition for talent and businesses doing well Waipukurau/Waipawa divide Thriving farming community attracting investors Meth Butcher reviewing archaic policies Sitting drivers test somewhere else Rural/Urban working together Community involvement Cost of sub division Higher employment rates Compliance costs/red tape WK7 Busy retailers with good selections and local Council co-operation in developments Now products, restaurants No retirement village Facilities: skate park, library etc More sub-divisions for new homes Location of social services Services: parent centre, support groups, Rotary More SME’s and better support for current Length of time to make decisions about the dam the people Improved environment Low population = high rates Participation Lower sporting levies and more opportunities for Internet and cell phone connectivity Opportunities for primary age children college sport and less travel Public transport Affordable housing beautifying main street Landlords rent Safe community High speed internet Future Central location An usable lake Whatuma Water quality Climate Regional partners support Infrastructure Aerodrome Lift the academic results at the College River WK8 Funding for Health/ Social Services Local theatres Now Drivers licence testing Childcare services close-knit, caring, community, Roundabout at Boggle Brothers/Takapau Road Holding the District back cycle tracks Trees down Ruataniwha Street No sporting or employment opportunities for high- rural ranges Improve welcome signs to town school age children beaches HB Tourism promoting us more, signs on Napier/ Housing and availability of bare land No heavy industry Taupo promoting Waipawa/Waipukurau as first Lack of Police presence and other Government Well serviced community town you drive through services Healthcare CHB promotions to refocus more on local business Realistic rental price for retailers Climate and not just tourism Lack variety in retail, local produce/product Roading Higher police platforms Airfield Thriving retail Lack of employment opportunities Approachable Council Retirement Village Leverage off main road traffic etc: Waipawa World class fishing Community Events Economic development support Holding the District back Invite business with large employment to CHB with Beach safety Many kids not going to local college incentives Aesthetic entrance to Waipukurau Public Transport between towns Council partnerships with community groups Drugs and gangs Shortage of doctors CHB Chamber of Commerce River Environment Limited Infrastructure Health/social services work together Future Aerodrome usage 7 day trading dam Water quality More Doctors local markets, showcasing local talent and produce Lack of clear communication Inviting thriving destination eg: Greg Hart, Milstream Gardens, Bold Innovation Drug and violence free lampshades Compromised water quality
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Future Sustainable practices Develop native fauna and flora Lake Whatuma-bird sanctuary Eradicate government and drug (meth) dependency Keep up verges, cleanliness Connecting with IT, educating for jobs that don’t Group Iwi 3: Tourism exist yet Now, value most in the District: Cycle tracks Make sure that people can set up jobs at home Marae in Waipawa Resealing gravel roads Maori in business No traffic lights, no parking meters Cut red tape for businesses, industries, tourism Maori in home ownership Sense of home, history, reserves (should have Retirement homes Settlement money, Council to facilitate use of it, original names) Recreation acknowledging what is compensating Clean water supply Infrastructure: industry, housing, tourism Maori-led Rehab facility (p, suicide) Re-connection routes Old people accommodation Now, holding the District back: Iwi, 11 April, 10-11.30 Tamatea Trail, education on pre-colonial history, Safety of the rail line, no overbridge e.g. Mahu (now called Blackhead Beach) Lack of housing Pakeha images only Hear about history, places, stories, tourism Lack of interpretation information Maori experience in Tamatea for schools, general EIT, need better tertiary education, trades, not Lack of historic awareness part, but also local for each individual school necessarily university, local branch of Te Wananga Connectivity between education institutions Need to make Maori history more visible, education O Aotearoa Signs in Maori Connect a Maori trail or network of trails through Exhibition space for historic objects of the area, Social housing Tamatea, along pa sites, longest place name, views interactive centre, return from Napier More handicapped parking of significant Maori places etc. Future: Group Iwi 2: Signage and info boards on Maori history Group Iwi 1: Now, value most in the District: Explanation, celebration, restoration projects Now, value most in the District: Natural environment, mountains, sea, rivers, Shuttles from villages Natural environment, climate, Future workforce opportunities central location, skiing, city, sea Community feel, strong connections. Digital communication manakitanga, friendly place, underlying Facilities, civic theatre, public toilets, parks Murals misunderstanding about shared history People- a strong living environment Inclusiveness with new immigrants it’s home, whanau Now, holding the District back: Ensure national chains are here safe, secure place to live Lack of housing Transparency of decision making climate Sports development Free ambulance ancient history Parochialism Driver licensing rural but not remote Future: Shearing sheds/spaces at the showgrounds to Now, holding the District back: Community marae in Waipukurau, for immigrants as utilise Rangatahi talents ignorance of pre-colonial history well tangata whenua not recognised as having an Sports United CHB sporting teams Tikokino community, 11 April, 2-3.30 offering Dam-development for farmers, orchards reservoirs young move away for education, don’t come back Development of Lake Whatuma, or other lakes Group Tikokino 1: to live, lack of higher paid employment Show long history Now, value most in the District: Future: Develop scenic adventures and have landscape Our people Jobs for all levels visual access Our facilities Healthy people, rivers, water Clean up waterways Clean air
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Family farms Lyle St, no numbers Solar panels, windmills, reusable energy Tiko Pub Future: Residential development Quietness, space Get Tiko to grow Public playground at the school Totara country Bike track from Hastings from Palmy via CHB Turn tennis courts into netball courts Scenic reserves Attract more industries, including using technology Multipurpose indoor equestrian, School to make living here and working somewhere else Motocross facility Now, holding the District (Tiko) back: possible Visitors using SH2 not 50 Promote family friendly Group Tikokino 4: Water shortage, water from private wells only, no Tech connected Now, value most in the District: dam More industry People, school Littering Shop Tiko school Shortage of driver licenses Laundromat Community spirit, involvement Facilities for freedom campers, need dump station Reason to stop…fuel and food stop Sports clubs Lack of housing Dam Rivers, bush ranges, beaches Nowhere for young people to let off steam Valuable soils No fuel or food stop Group Tikokino 3: Good health services Lack of employment and trades/training Now, value most in the District: Safety, security Future: Close to Ruahine Ranges Good fire brigade Bike tracks Hall Now, holding the District back: Village water and waste water schemes Pub Lack of secondary education Making Tiko / CHB a lifestyle choice Fire brigade Retaining young people, no jobs for them School Lack of Public Transport, school buses and Group Tikokino 2: The Tiko hall/Tennis/playcentre between Waipawa and Waipukurau Now, value most in the District: Volunteers Water security People, community Lots of space Digital connections Sheep and beef farming, hunting opportunities Almost no crime High reliance on agriculture Scenic walks and runs Now, holding the District back: Street appeal Cottage industry: Photography, toy making, fire Lack of shop, dairy Eating out places brigade pumps, polishing stainless steel 24hr fuel Monopoly in services, lack of giving preference to Hospitality Lack of school children local companies Personal contact Public attractions Lack of promotion of events Now, holding the District back: Lack of sportsfields need turf grounds Future: Forest & Bird Better signage Increase school rolls Lack of foresight about the dam: water supply, Need younger population More jobs tourism Not on the map Faster building consents Council building consents slow / difficult, red tape Upgrade camping grounds Community and farm shops Slow service re connecting to phone Future: Public Transport in town and further Illegal living in tents More jobs in Tiko Dollars spent locally Council staff not knowing the people, or their Increase school roll Increasing street appeal circumstances Dam, clean water More annual events Roading in Tiko Pass Holden Road , extension of Healthy and clean environment Better promotion of CHB
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Dam Mountains No water supply Great location, close to everything Dirty rivers Waipawa community, 11 April, 6-8pm Flights to AKL/CHC/WLG Negativity in community from lack of employment No traffic problem Fences by town clock in Waipawa Group WP 1: Now, holding the District back: Lack of zoning for housing Now, value most in the District: Lack of cash Town signage Accessibility to the Council and councillors Lack of suitable accommodation, short and long Aging Doctors Good representation in Council term Gravel roads Sports clubs and the opportunities they provide Consenting slow and difficult Future: Access to nature Rising cost of living A place everyone wants to live Current services, pools, libraries Infrastructure ageing Tourism, rowing, sailing lake Individuality of towns and communities Lack of investment opportunity Retirement destination Health services OK, but could be better Lack of forward thinking, no change Farming families staying in CHB Sense of community Future: Economic growth through dam School All shops in mainstreet occupied Swimmable Lake Whatuma Now, holding the District (back: Face lift of buildings Attractive signs with beautiful CHB Small town mentality Collaborative business community with network and Vineyards Bureaucracy support Youth employment Lack of innovation Opportunities for young people to come back to Freedom camping policy for CHB Erosion of health services Value-add to local businesses Encourage subdivision Lack of control over landlords Business development hub Easier consenting Police More cycleways Subdivision incentives Accommodation Fund that people can access for start-up Fishing lodges Future: businesses Tidy up town Centre Maintenance of parks and facilities Looking after small towns, footpaths, verges LTP: Opportunity for arts Community events that cater to multiple users Tar seal more roads Youth initiatives Brewery/ cider factory as we are an apple town Amenities for freedom campers Tertiary education Tidying up TC’s give face lift Taking lead on environmental issues, by community Group WP 3: Fishing lodges Housing development Now, value most in the District: Improving infrastructure Beauty Group WP 4: Thinking differently about how we get ideas Quality of life Now, value most in the District: Community Community, looking out for each other Group WP 2: Cycle and walking tracks Egalitarian Now, value most in the District: Pool, library and museum Small Clean environment Fishing Rural aspect Nature, easy access Parks, sports and service clubs Rec, sports and culture People Sportsfields Location in country, climate Small community, engaged Beaches, marine reserve Heritage Affordable housing Now, holding the District back: Amenities, library, bridle trails, gym, rubbish/ Beaches Poor infrastructure recycling collections
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Facilities and services Musical and drama Good service in shops Access to Council Pool, museum Assets like museum, library, theatre, pool, civic hall Now, holding the District back: Close to beaches and bush, mountains Recreation: bowling, fishing Growth? Big sections Beach High rates Cemetery and old churches Town clock Ageing pop, lack of pensioner housing Being on SH2 Winery/Orchards Red tape Now, holding the District back: Marae, schools, parks No Public Transport High rates Now, holding the District back: Lack of digital and cell phone connectivity Economy of scale missing Need more suburban housing, housing choice, Lack of long term employment Bad zoning rentals High rents for businesses, not enough commercial Small population Industry/employment buildings People leaving, don’t come back No signage Rich rural, poor towns Bureaucracy Maintaining buildings Future: Dependency on farming Lack of Doctors and dentists Shop local campaign Future: Future: Cycle track in Ruahines Pool, maybe fix paddling pool Expressing identity, give a theme to Waipawa, like Equine tourism Screen up unsightly areas and buildings and Napier signs, plaques, colours Council to encourage businesses in CHB, rates businesses Make use of location on SH2 reductions, land and infra help Better access to camping grounds Apprenticeships, keeping youth here Council-owned commercial buildings Better Council maintenance Cultural development Retired people as business mentors Lobby government for investment in regional places Historical minibus tours Biodegradable rubbish bag, plastic free Pulling down old post office so people can see Marae Paint buildings in main street Park/ band rotunda Celebrate Māori history Edible forest Iwi build retirement village Dam Pensioner housing Rate reprieve for new businesses Housing Waste disposal plant for all CHB to generate power Transport to Hastings/Napier-train/electric bus Transport Public Transport between the two towns Dam Historical mini tours Cut red tape More commercial property Service accommodation All shops occupied New housing Bank Renewable energy Banks Health Better footpaths Wi-Fi Better education Higher school rolls Youth activities Group WP 5: Tourism Community park Now, value most in the District: Variety of businesses Community spirit Controls on subdivision size Omakere community, 12 April, 10-11.30am Historic feeling Safe Group WP 6: Group Om-1: Community pride Now, value most in the District: Now, value most in the District: Lovely planting Multi-cultural society Community spirit Family friendly Eateries School as the heart Clubs and theatre Support in community Good hall
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Beaches, marine reserve Responsibility for own issues Retirement village in CHB Now, holding the District (and Omakere) back: Supportive Smedley College (for agricultural workers) State of the roads, unsealed and busy Innovative developed and grown One-lane bridges Young population Need plan to attract retirees Beach traffic vs stock and logging trucks Omakere facebook page Better small business support and attraction, Pine trees along roads Not too many subdivisions mentorship in first 6 months, rather than after 6 Speed around school Good entertainment months Lack of GPs Natural assets Cutting red tape Difficult access to health Good skill base Transparency around processes, accessibility of Young people leaving, lack of entertainment in town Now, holding the District (and Omakere) back: Council processes (building and development Lack of retail price of land consents) Rubbish on beach health and safety impractical Getting answers as to why things cannot happen Group sport difficult PC6 (dam) Can-do mentality Lack of afterschool activities Absent landowners More representation on Regional Council Kids going into boarding school, parents shopping Lack of connections between beach communities Plan about connecting assets, selling to outsiders outside District and Omakere and insiders Reliance on rain water, droughts Tar sealed roads not kept up DP needs sorting, things missing (did not mention Lack of cell phone + internet coverage Little received from Council what) Water shortage, especially eastern part of CHB No cohesive drive to sell CHB better communication between town and rural Lack of communication from Council about Parochialism (e.g. Omakere not caring about Widen rates base Omakere Tikokino) CHB website should have info on local settlements Out of control of freedom camping Not friendly to campervans, no dump stations Comparisons with other similar districts Distance from facilities in town No designated small campervan paces to stay Info on website about moving to CHB Future: Lack of variety in shops, people travel to Hastings, Events for tourists United community, closing urban-rural divide Napier Celebrating those who do well Engage those that work outside and don’t have Lack of eating places children Lack of leadership Staff, 10 April, 9-10.30 Better health care Thinly spread Improve infra of the school In 2 electoral districts ST, Technical Services Manager, civil engineer: Enforced speed restriction around school Generational issues kids leaving the District, more education, activities Use hall more No connection between beach communities for youngsters to come back to Info on local community Not tourist (motor home) friendly B: moving beyond minimum wage economy, having OSCA – Omakere School fb pages –difficult name Future: jobs that pay enough to keep people here Omakere FB page (already exists, but difficult Develop training opportunities here, health board, Group Om-2: name) rural doctors, env. Services Now, value most in the District: Dam KM: leverage Good lifestyle Not reliant on climate R, IT manager: need District-wide broadband, Farming Want to see clarity on how rates are spent, value stimulate working remotely, attract businesses Community spirit for money KM: Whanganui digital strategy Balance between beach, farming other industries More population, quality population HO, DP: consciousness physical and natural Thriving School Keeping young people here resources (fertile soils (LUC class), Ruataniwha
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+ urbanism water storage). Lack of awareness, lack of are being heard when lobbying / standing up Transport: between Waipukurau and Waipawa recognition, threatened by bad land use, desire for Lack of cell phone coverage, opportunity to work (there is a cycling connection), (mini) buses growth and development remotely (KILL) Keep It Local Local: contracting locally, H: Maori population large and growing, Resource Infra to facilitate new small businesses keeping skills and knowledge in district, providing Legislation Amendment Bill, recognise B (civil, transport): visual impact when you enter local employment S: babyboomers needing smaller places, want to towns, empty shops need lick of paint, celebrate Health and social services live in the District, how to keep and attract them? buildings Council looking through a lens: making sure Council S, Comms: lifestyle is great, great for bringing up asks the right questions when doing work, such as family, challenge to keep it affordable when Councillors, 10 April, 11-12.30 are we creative, are we cutting red tape?, is it growing, don’t want to push people out of district, affordable? Etc. grow together KA: PC (econ, contracting to 2 councils): building Visitor destination (4500 vehicles per day) GM: entrepreneurship, better connected networks, use Tokoroa – Waipawa next stop less red tape for business (example from Wairoa, infra more efficiently, connect regionally, use Sort signage out Rocket Labs) existing entrepreneurs (heaps of them already), link Cycling from Waipukurau and Hastings Havelock n Need new doctors, need backup doctors them up, link to rural lifestyle, make clear you can Green space outside museum, shift stuff away from Increase Comm Vol Organisations Support funding stay in CHB and run global business, build capacity in front of museum, make more visible ($25k for many years now) to use broad band better, make sure young people Passing traffic to see O/S, knock down post office understand the opportunities in the District better Shop fronts guidelines TA: KM: inward communication, outward Improve entrance from north end Attract back the people who have grown up here communication (marketing the opportunities) Skate park, pool, pump track, splash pad but are now overseas or elsewhere in NZ SF: library: 40% of pop over 16 do not have literacy Waipawa Pool? Combine with school pool How do we create well-paid jobs for them? skills to take up good jobs, need improved library Libraries: make Waipawa the main hub library More intensive farming coming, how can we services, schools as well, but cannot do it all Online booking support those, use technology BS: why do people live here? What do they value? Waipukurau library to civic Theatre, sell existing Need building/s to attract businesses, e.g. Rivers, beach, the ranges, low stress, lack of traffic, building consultancy for farmers community feel, people know your name, quality of Repurpose civic theatre (make more hands on Council needs attitude: “how can we help you?” food experience with information), also business Improve infrastructure for communications KM: access to ranges, beach, rivers, celebrating meetings them, understanding them, respecting them Tourism, econ, business TC: C (rural fires, bylaws): since 1981: needs balance CHB promotions Need clear plan for development, set land aside with growth, 35 mins from Hastings, 1:20 from Place should look good Palmy, 3hrs from Wellington. Needs development, SB: but not lose assets / lifestyle Silver Economy (1000 more over 65s in next 5 yrs): IS: need their ideas, get them to contribute and support Get rid of petty parochialism, Holding the District back community, also spend $ need better communication, e.g. that we have Youth leaving Local decision making: make clear everybody has a industrial land Internet connectivity voice (non-bureaucratic town committee, need infra in place (water, sewage, roading, Stinginess in Council, need sound investment community board without the formal structure, comms) Uninformed decisions by Central Government, then community plan for each local community), need passion for the District, make that clear, implemented in Council, we need to make sure we partnerships willingness to express it
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+ urbanism zoning holds the place back (if dam happens need Vision Group 2 100 new homes, cannot be accommodated –don’t Depends on dam going ahead or not. Would help Tourism, we live in paradise, rivers, sea mountains, want to see those go to Havelock N) increase business, service industries, would bring iwi, maori culture, linking these and putting these on CHB College: holding us back –kids going to people, would help psychologically platform and shouting out to the world Hastings instead 1st July 2018: Plan Change will cut irrigation Strong community, sporting culture Prosperity and opportunity, could be via dam, Lifestyle choice AW: technology Easy commute to many centres Investment needed, how do we make that happen? Support the region that you’re proud of Climate Ultrafast broadband, mobile phone coverage Digital capacity around marae to communicating, Education free wifi Vision: People, prosperity and pride Need digital business hubs Group 3 People: Valuing opinions and contributions; CHB is on the way to everywhere, centrally located Family, community, pride attracting them by the way CHB people live Drinkable rivers, not just swimmable Loyalty and support Prosperity: investment, raising income, attracting How and where to invest CHB share of settlement Personal attention the right businesses, ideas sit in community already money ($105m) Reserves Pride: how the places look, positive messages, Need a retirement village in CHB Russell park connections between rural and urban -farmers seen Roofing training school (cannot get staff), Events negatively; recognise cultural (richness) electricians, drivers, agricultural workers, Hunting fishing camping apprenticeship schemes Markets Community leaders, 10 April, 1.30-4.30 Better links between College and business [[need support for retailing]] Make sure those who have left do come back National event Power Trust Youth - some aspirations CHB cannot cater for. But Library Principal of college need to cater for those who might not want to go to Inclusive schools Head girl of College Uni, but have no other options. Link between Street barbecues Sports HB Secondary and work No traffic lights Trade company, plumbing draining, roofing Women (rural) entrepreneurs starting businesses Wineries CEO agriculture via web Small communities Involvement in community Need improved internet and phone [[need tourists travelling from AKL to SI to come via Real estate Building houses for CHB conditions, low energy, CHB]] Farmer, fed farmers insulation, materials, large eaves –develop and Silver Fern farms promote skills to build these Group 4 Forest and bird Need improving environment and showing that to Affordability Farmer, Stevenson transport others Reachable Stevenson transport No crowds Farmer What do you value most in the district? Weather Elderly, daycares Group 1 Freedom Teacher, Maori community Climate, beach, bush, rivers, vistas, ease of living On the way to everywhere, 30mins CHB, mobility scooter Strong community Family friends, strong community connections Represents 9 marae Good facilities, including sports Everyone knows you environment [[would need communicating better]] Active community: arts, sporting (sad that there is no railway anymore) Safety, sense of security
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Need to make iwi culture more visible: streetscape Lamb country was and is too narrow for us as a them commute to us? design, contemporary arts region, we are so much more than that ! We need to work with the Iwi – they have the cash Have we reviewed out strengths as a council and – we need to find and develop the business case to Leaders Group follow-up emails identified our weaknesses. What resources do we get them to invest. need to bring in to support us with our BHAG (What If we want to attract people to our community – do Email 1 people resources & skills are untapped in the region we need to acknowledge they may not work here What are your Transformative Ideas for making the to support us)? and commute out of the area – so what do these District Thrive? Our local education – community starts around our people need to make this work successfully We need to define what our Vision and BHAG is schools – if we lose our kids to schools out of town How did towns like New Plymouth transformation (Big Hairy Audacious Goal!) and invest in it.. I we are on the back foot already. How does CHBC get started? - what were their smaller communities didn’t get the view that we really understood what want to differentiate themselves, what do they want (like us) who benefited - How does that model work that was. We couldn’t crystallise it. to known for. How do we stop the flight risk out of for Waipuk and Hastings/Napier? Is it CHB becomes a destination in itself and a our community – its stronger than ever at an place to live, work and play? educational level. Email 2 What about Lake Hatuma? That could be a HUGE Our gap in young people in our community, they The critical issue is economic opportunity for our region long term. Just ask our either don’t want to work or have left. We have a parents what this lake use to be like when they generation gap in our community – what do we The rates burden is unsustainable for many people were young - a mini Taupo – with a much better need to keep them here or bring them back with Paying rates of $2000 plus on a static income climate! What do we need to do to investigate the their families once their OE & city life is around 20,000 cannot be done for long Council possibility of resurrecting the lake. I know there are over. Vibrant culture, challenging jobs, lifestyle, needs to do three things issues with multiple land ownership but surely in the good education for their kids. interest of the long term viability of our community Our P problem – how well is that being addressed 1 get the da by agitating much more forcefully to this could this as possibility that should be and acknowledged. HBRC AND GETTING THE pr OUT THERE investigated. I understand that someone looked at Connectivity – Limiting factor for our rural ABOUT THE BENEFITS TO hb AND THE PORT this previously – why did it fall over? What barriers population and business opportunities– continue ETC got in their way that the council/community can help lobbying and investment. 2 trim budgets for example THE RECYCLING remove? CENTRES AT TAKAPAU AND WAIPAWA Possibility of an event but we are currently limited Anything Else you would like to put on the table? MUST BE VERY EXPENSIVE COMPARED TO by infrastructure - Does Lake Hatuma provide us How do we engage our success stories to come THEIR INCOME AND OTHER OPTIONS with the event? Do we start competing with the back to CHB and invest in it. Eg: Look at Rod Drury 3 GET SERIOUS ABOUT SHARING SERVICES multisport events – we have the mountains, roads, bringing Xero to Hawkes Bay and Paul Brock WITH OTHER COUNCILS . rivers, lakes and ocean. Sea, Sky, Bush Walk and bringing Kiwibanks call centre to Hawkes Bay – Tour de Beautiful ( how do we make these bigger or both ex Hawkes Bay leading big companies OTHERWISE I FORESEE MAJOR PROBLEMS AS different) advocating Hawkes Bay and bringing big corporate WE START TO SEE ASSETS FALL TO BITS AS investment back to their home communities. Who THE MAINTENANCE BECOME UNAFFORDABLE What are the Critical Issues holding us back? are they? – who do we tap to support us. I could Not leveraging the Hawkes Bay marketing and name a couple from my years at school. Challenge Email 3 lobbying for more CHB as part of it. We simply don’t Bruce Turfrey’s on why his Head Office in What are your Transformative Ideas for making the have the grunt and resources to compete – we Hastings? Giblin Groups office is also in Hastings? District Thrive? shouldn’t even try except get a bigger slice of the Who else from here have moved their businesses support local industry, businesses, schools, a shop pie to Hastings/Napier. Bring it back to Waipuk! Make local. If we all support our local area it will get
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+ urbanism stronger, more people will come and stay and the We need to be a place that professionals come to the encouragement of water storage urbanly as well whole community will be better off. A workers bus to live and give them things to be attracted to – top as on farm, help facilitate the search for new types Hastings and Napier, also to take students to EIT. schools, rural living accessibility to other areas to of framing which doesn't degrade our environment. work, restaurants, great civic facilities. I’m not sure We need to get our basics right around the towns What are the Critical Issues holding us back? we are very going to have the volume of waste water systems From our point of view at the school, too many professional jobs in this are locals do not support their local school, not just the We should look to be a great place for tradespeople I believe the greening of CHB would not only help College, plenty transport to other primary schools to be, as this will be the bulk of our jobs in the attract more tourists to the many attractions we rather than their closest. From the College point of district. Maybe some thought to what are the things have here but also attract new residents who are view we are a 'Community College', we provide an these people really want young, educated and want to support a better world equal education to other schools and to be a fair I understand communities that thrive have many reflection of our community we need the local interpersonal connections between there On an other note CHB is a great place for retirees. families to support it. We give huge assistance to people. Go to Saturday morning kids Rugby and A lot of our towns are flat ,we have a good medical local events from ECE to elderly within the you will find the whole community there. How can centre ,housing is very affordable compared many community, often asked by community leaders who we facilitate more of this sort of interaction? other areas. do not or have not supported the College in the past We have a good commercial infrastructure, by sending their own children to the What are the Critical Issues holding us back? banks ,supermarkets, movie theatre, mitre school. Disappointing to hear former students send If we get major infrastructure, or business moving 10 ,libraries etc. their kids elsewhere, for whatever reason. If the here, we need to be able to do everything in our We have many good public facilities and community local schools had all the local students, the power to ensure that the bulk of the work generated social groups and clubs and let not forget our great additional money put back into this economy locally stays in our region. This will require everyone to be climate would be significant, in a previous school i taught at clear about what is coming and nimble to respond which was smaller than CHBC in a smaller to it. I suggest councils role could be Good link to Wellington by rail on some special community the additional income was $5m annually communicating potential opportunities to the occasions would be a bonus for young and old being spent. business community, and assisting them to be Making more of our history beyond the over ready focused colonial history and exploring the Maori Email 4 history more would help many people be more I was born at Rathbone Maternity Home Waipawa, Email 6 rounded out as New Zealanders spent the first 22 years of my life living in Waipawa Q 1 before moving to live in Pukehou, the northern end I think a greening of our area would be one of the Supporting or local schools in any way we can ,in of CHB. I am totally committed to a 'thriving' Central few win\wins that would actually be real particular encouraging the more wealthy in our Hawkes Bay community and would love to help Working along side the HBRC and others to bring community to send their off spring there. thus community flourish by reflecting its dual about clean rivers could be a great place to start cultural heritage. along with restoring the health of lake Whatuma That's all I can think of for now . Encouraging genuine sustainable practices around More on that as 'operation 'Thrive' grips our all areas the council has or could influence would Q 2 community! demonstrate good leadership In some cases nothing is holding us back and in others it's fear of change , peer pressure or Email 5 Some other aspects of this could be the promotion alignment with vested interest that have invested a What are your Transformative Ideas for making the of low carbon footprint housing, supporting the lot of capital District Thrive? reduction of waste particularly plastic packaging, in enterprises that are not sustainable
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Q3 Thanks for trying
Email from community member
I'm hoping you can help or more so the CHB council, by developing more walking pathways in Otane, especially at the start of Higginson street and Rochfort street (the main road)
I live along Rochfort street, with many other mums also and it is extremely frustrating not to mention very dangerous to walk with my little one in a pram to the shop, school or bus bay at the hall. I have to walk along the road as it's very difficult with my pram to walk along the ruggard grass so therefore I get very anxious especially now the main road has become the main route for detour with the new signs having just gone up. Cars do not drive slow when they come through Otane I can assure you, but what has really made me want to send you this email is because the other day I was walking and a stone flicked up and knicked my leg. I will be extremely angry if that had gone in the wrong direction and hit my little girl sitting in her pram.
Otane is building quiet substantially in housing numbers and the council need to consider what we as small town communities need instead of spending our rate payers money on only the big towns (ie new road development near the AW Parsons stadium) was this necessary?
Please can you bring it to the councils attention, that would be greatly appreciated.
Hopefully actions take place quickly for new pathways in Otane, this will definitely settle my nerves every time I step out the door to take a nice walk around our beautiful town.
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General submissions Id What does a thriving future for What is holding us How do we unleash our Who (in community) What are your ideas? Central Hawke's Bay look like? back? potential? can we work with? 7 Seem to be thriving along quite We have only ourselves Contractors, I would like to see a safer area outside Lakeview Kindy for parents/ well. Continue to have a caring to hold us back. We can volunteer groups, caregivers to have decent parking& footpath & a crossing for secure thoughtful community. Be achieve anything we put Council children. Too many people are speeding down Lake View Rd self sufficient& help support local our minds to & as long forgetting a kindy is right there. Alot of heavy trucks/farm enterprise. Pride in our town. as we work together equipment also come down the road. The road may need narrowing to help slow down traffic. 8 A Dam. A thriving community Idiots like Jock Hyde, red By doing exactly this? I would like to see a large grass area established next to the doesn't need 85k skate parks!! tape, too many Listening to the good rate Tukituki river. This could be either between camp ground and river Q.Who does this benefit? A. unemployed and paying citizens in this or below Pukeora senic reserve. This area would have a number Predominately people that don't spending money in the community of picnic tables, shade sails, BBQ's and native trees planted. It pay rates, unemployed , people wrong places could also cater for overnight campervans? Each October the river that contribute jack shit to our in front of this large grass area could be deepened with a digger to community. Drove past skate make swimming holes. I envisage this would be a great area not park at 6.30 Monday morning only for the locals but people passing thru wanting to stop for a and I counted 14 pieces of swim, drink a coffee, have a picnic etc etc rubbish on the lawn that has been sown- totally disrespectful! 9 Employed mobile drug free Lack of employment Stop wasting resources on Use our elders there Use the youngsters who have left school and don't have a direction citizens who care and respect Lack of public transport! the dead duck dam and get are many many - give them something to work towards to get their buy in - e.g. the themselves and each other, Lack of direction- leaders on with creating jobs and/or retired or semi-retired drivers license and the EIT construction success story. including all race, religion etc. in the community As training here in CHB. And individuals who have Congratulations on seeking community input - thank you. I'm always lack of $! transport of people to get great skills, time and sorry I will be away for CHB 11/04 or I would attend at the CHB them to Hastings/Napier as desire to give back to Muni. necessary. the community. 10 An inclusive community - Lack of communication. Engage local iwi at every Local Iwi, youth, Find out about local Treaty settlements and offer support. These culturally diverse, technologically We don't embrace our opportunity. Band together youth groups and have the potential to be big business, education and housing switched on, modern, supportive diversity. Silo cultures as a community for better schools, EIT. ventures. Ensure powhiri are part of the process when opening a and thriving. A community that doing their own thing. internet and mobile Business owners and community facility. This creates a sense of belonging and takes pride in their rivers, Lack of modernisation of coverage. Use our rich community ownership. It is also an opportunity to educate youth and children beaches, towns and farms. A town buildings. Beach resources, land, water etc. organisations. on the value of the facility and encourage respect and pride. community who works and plays and river preservation Use local businesses. Schools technology departments could be hired for adult education together. Fit and healthy seen as Regional council Consider policy or other business ventures, catering etc. Develop Harker street so initiatives with lots to do for our responsibility. amendments that are the pool and skate park are easier to access providing a safer children, youth, parents, adults pertinent to our vision, e.g. access for children than off the main street. We need a safer cycle and older persons. rates remissions, Celebrate lane on the Waipawa Bridge. Upgrade access to the Waipawa cultures. River as a walk with good parking. Develop the area at Hunter Park Waipawa with tidy parking, public toilet, access to Waipawa Township through BP, access to the green park like lawn just through the underpass. Is this going to be fixed? Can access be restricted to small vehicles? Turn the entrance to the street into residential type road, with traffic islands and a speed hump.
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Id What does a What is holding us back? How do we Who (in What are your ideas? thriving future for unleash our community) Central Hawke's potential? can we work Bay look like? with? 13 Jobs - not just low We're not a destination compared Better IT/ See above for some ideas. paying hort/agri to Napier. Need to somehow get Broadband ones. Busy shops. people to stay. The dam coverage. Tourists seeing CHB decision. It's still all up in the air. Promotion of as a destination. No one has any confidence to what CHB has The dam or some move forward. Consider getting to offer - not sort of water/ more small businesses to town or just as a irrigation system that out of towners to live here. Rates thorough-fare is more user pays, rebate etc with a bond attached. to Napier and and that is kind to In Onga, they have the historical Hastings. the environment. buildings. Boring! Young people Having said that, we and boomers with money aren't also need to move interested in that stuff. It's static on from the dam - and not vibrant. We need to get we've wasted too the cycle-ways out there, and get much time on that cafes and other small businesses already. to make it a destination. 14 It looks pretty good Get the dam. My comments relate to the issue of landscape. I have two concerns; one rural and the other urban. to me, with Rural. In the mid 1960s, on the whim of the engineer, radiate pine plonked in along the roadsides of blemishes. See the old Patangata County Council through eastern CHB. This was a visionless folly of monumental submission. proportion (and the engineer was told so the moment that the pines were being planted down the Hautope Branch Road - I heard the expression of the objection). Their removal, hemmed in as they are between a public and probably tar-sealed road and a road fence, and with at best pulp value, their removal will be, and is, a very costly process and, I suspect, beyond the means of the CHB District Council. This is a burdon for which the CHB DC is in no way responsible, obviously. They are up to a metre through and have another hundred years of life ahead of them, which, if not removed, is an awful prospect. Where they have been removed the seedlings are uncontrolled - thus insuring the problem in perpetuity. They're an absolute corruption on the landscape. I've spent all my life trying to beautiful what was a treeless landscape with trees, and have to look at these things. A few months ago in a wind storm one of these trees, just 100 metres from my entrance, partly collapsed, intruding onto the road. Soon after the roading company employed by the Council cleaned it up. This exercise lasted for the best part of a day, involving four men and three vehicles, including a chipper. When the overseer came to inspect the job I asked him the likely price. 'At least $3,000'! Apart from the bill, what remained was arguably the ugliest tree in the CHB District. (See photos attached.) The next wind storm cased a similar occurrence 500 metres down the road, but in this case not impeding traffic. As daunting as the challenge is, I believe that progressive removal this is a strategy be considered, in conjunction with rural residents as it will be they who will be inconvenienced, though the wider public will have the financial burden. Urban. Waipawa is a delightful town; a really nice place to live. It must, however, be the only town in the country that has a metre of derelict cars in the town centre, in full view of townsfolk and travelers along Highway 2 - and across the road from our distinctive and hallowed War Memorial. I assume that nothing can be done about it under the District Plan. But what about screening it with plants. I would suggest along the south and western margins wisteria be planted. This is a rampant climbing plant and beautiful when in flower. The cost would be minor. Thank you for the opportunity to state my views.
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Id What does a thriving future for What is holding us back? How do we unleash Who (in community) What are your ideas? Central Hawke's Bay look like? our potential? can we work with? 15 An active community who Narrow focus on work, Recognise who we are, All groups and Change the focus of "CHB Promotions". While I think they do participate in decisions. Full (or employment and who we our strengths and what individuals. Schools, the best they can with their brief I believe the brief is wrong. We close to) employment. More small are. Old ideas that no makes us unique..... Council, Clubs, are not a tourist destination, people come here for family or for entrepreneurial businesses doing longer work in the world we Businesses... unlimited events - the events draw the people, the families draw the business Nationally and live in. We put too many people. We need to promote CHB as a place to live. We need Internationally and employing local resources into "tourism" to encourage people to move here and bring their businesses people. Community events that ideas and miss the point of and families. Lets encourage small-medium businesses to bring people together. Places to who we are and what makes come here and set up. If we rely on one or two industries we put be and things to do for all age us tick. ourselves at risk. Like many small rural communities over the groups (at no or little cost). years, they have been destroyed by the closing down of one Positive communication and a large employer. We need to share the employment load across sense of working together. An a broad range of businesses. We should encourage our young environment to be proud of and an people to move away and get life experiences. But lets make it example to the rest of New a place they want to come back to, to raise their children or start Zealand on how to care for our their business.... lets provide a community that is open, beautiful land, mountains, beaches welcoming, diverse and exciting.... and rivers. 16 People that can earn a satisfactory As there is 5-6 small Unite the Identity of the All Wine and Food It makes sense to utilise the local environmental features. "Wine living in the town they live in would communities that come different communities operators. Local Iwi & Food" events are amongst the worlds biggest events - We contribute a great deal to a thriving under the one CHB to create one big Maori communities. don't have a lot of Wine but CHB has huge potential of creating CHB. The employment and jobs umbrella, it requires a more opportunity. Create a Farming leaders - a 'Country Lifestyle and Food' event - that attracts people from coming from either local industry or cohesive approach to proactive development Sheep, Beef and all over NZ - seeking to then grow this into a tourism opportunity tourism opportunities. Make CHB community co-ordination. department within the animal breeders Horse for attracting tourist from Offshore. Asian tourists cannot get a thriving community/ tourism Remove the divides and get CHBDC. identifying Equine Leaders - The enough " Clean & Green NZ' farms, animals and NZ Heritage. destination, where both locals and input to achieve benefits for opportunities and then 'owners' of the Lake CHB has all this is bucket loads. Rotorua is doing it on a grand visitors want to spend time and all. selling to NZ and the and Rivers scale, (Sheep shearing, wood Carving, Luge etc) and could be money. world. accused of overdoing it (Too many busses, the experience they offer no longer seems 'real'). - CHB could be the new frontier of "Unspoiled environmental Tourism" Devise a strategy to work with TV, Documentary & Film producers so the country features get promoted internationally (free) Work with major NZ & International tourism operations to find what they are looking to sell to clients around the world and create/develop this in CHB. Equine event - we have a large wealth of untapped horse skills in CHB - some of NZ best horse people located in CHB - Utilise their fame and experience to create an event outside Horse of the Year. The facility's are available at the Racecourse. Fabulous Heritage buildings around CHB - Home and Garden 'Open days" Staying for weekends etc. The 'owners' of the Lake and Rivers - promote the Trout fishing as an international destination.. The list of opportunities in endless... I would love to be a part of unleashing them :)
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Id What does a thriving future for Central What is holding us back? How do we unleash Who (in community) What are your ideas? Hawke's Bay look like? our potential? can we work with? 17 Working together Churches, schools, Facebook page (look at Oamaru Today page) - helps community associations advertise the community beyond itself. 18 World class tourist attraction Well paid job Lack of forward thinking More meetings like this Progressive Otane Railway station rebuild in Otane/Railway complex Cowboy and business opportunity Excellent and thinking outside of the one Marketing CHB Council - liaison town Tax breaks/incentives for companies etc. to come to education and re-training facilities box. Lack of open website to promote person? Like minded CHB mindedness, cooperation CHB and to share people and agreement Not using ideas etc. current social media e.g. Progressive Otane 19 Capitalisation on the motorhome tourist No freedom camping by Create a freedom I was involved with the For the CHBDC to be a motorhome friendly district so the industry by becoming a Motorhome law or permitted freedom camping by law under Wairoa DC, Napier CC broken link between Palmerston North and Gisborne can Friendly District camping according to the the freedom camping and the Hastings DC be joined together. freedom camping act act while an NZMCA board member in formulating their FC bylaws. I am happy to meet with Councillors and Staff to give them an understanding of the Act and Freedom Camping or contact the NZMCA Planning 20 A healthy, clean, green environment. The People and businesses Individual business and CHBDC should not use CHBDC should concentrate on providing necessary rural business and farms succeeding expecting handouts and people using their own ratepayer money on infrastructure and services for drinking water, wastewater/ without the expensive, destructive, risky relying on others for iniatiative. supporting other sewage,roads, rubbish disposal, libraries and parks. I Ruataniwha Water Storage Scheme. A support and not doing business and think too much emphasis is put on growth as a top priority. diversified economy with independent things under their own organisations, in time CHBDC should put more emphasis on the happiness and businesses succeeding through their own initiatives. Lack of and financially. Rates the well-being of its people. As CHBDC has confirmed endeavours. People are happy. We need enthusiasm. Rates and should be charged on a their commitment to the Hawke's Bay Biodiversity Strategy to make Central Hawke's Bay a clean, taxes too high so people user pays basis. Rates and signed the Hawke's Bay Biodiversity Accord they healthy, eco-friendly place to live and visit. and business don't have need to be kept as low should be opposing the RWSS as it will destroy a large We would be healthier and happier if enough money to spend as possible so people area of CHB's natural and native environment including it's Central Hawke's Bay was farmed on their own wants and are left with more fauna and flora. Sustainability and protection of the organically, GE free, and the earth and the needs. money in their pockets environment and resources should also be given a higher environment wasn't poisoned or polluted. to spend. priority than growth. CHB should aim to be a district with Food grown here would be known for the happiest people and an example of environmental being safe and sustainable. It could also excellence. CHBDC should follow and obey their Mission provide more jobs. We need to care for Statement - "The Central Hawke's Bay District Council will the environment and live sustainably if we be accountable to its citizens for good management of the want to help make it a better place to live public assets of the District and provide open local in now and for generations to come. Eco- government at minimum economic cost, with the least tourism could also attract more visitors. possible intervention in the private lives of residents."
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Id What does a thriving future for Central What is holding us back? How do we unleash Who (in community) What are your ideas? Hawke's Bay look like? our potential? can we work with? 21 Strong supported communities Poor communication Lack Work together This needs work 1.Community Leadership There are many different groups of leadership in the Porangahau community working independently of each other but with common goals. All are doing a great job but with improved communication it could be better making it easier for the community to keep in touch and council to have a point of contact. I suggest an informal leadership group made up of a representative from each interest group including (but not limited to): School Marae Hall Committee Fire Brigade Country Club Porangahau Promotions Maori Committee Rugby Club Netball Police Te Ahurangi Services 2. Development of the Memorial Hall entrance Over the past few years, community gardens at the western end of the Hall (rear) have been developed, largely funded by grants and input from EIT. This work has been driven by Kim Seffert at Te Ahurangi Services working with the Hall Committee. Concept Plans have also been drawn up for the hall entrance as part of a proposed upgrade of Abercrombie Street. It would give the community a sense of pride and be respectful if the work around the hall entrance could be completed in time for the WW1 commemorations in 2018 as a first stage. Proposed work includes drainage, car parking, footpaths, 22 Healthy people living in a healthy Beaurocracy. Narrow Vote in the right everyone young, old, look at new ways of producing food, and lead the way for environment. New innovative industry minded people who are people. We need iwi, families, business NZ. Be brave. Be bold!! replacing over intensified dairy and other afraid of change - who cant leaders that are not people, educators, farming which is a major contributor as a open themselves up to the economic driven. We environmentalists, heavy pollutant on the waterways and fact that the earth as we need leaders that have land. People employed in new innovative know it is crying out for awareness and are up work that has low - nil impact on healing. That we need to to date with world environment. Could be new ways of change, we need a whole issues. producing food - we could be leaders in new mindset if we are to healthy sustainable nutrition and lead our continue to have an earth planet in a new Could be in IT, internet to live on, and not make global networking and marketing, ourselves extinct.
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Id What does a thriving future for Central Hawke's Bay What is holding us back? How do we unleash Who (in community) What are your ideas? look like? our potential? can we work with? 23 Tidy towns. youth in higher learning and trade training. too much people have their stop wasting our you should be Keep our small towns tidy. Mow our berms, adults working. native flora and fauna flourishing. Jobs but own agendas - not thinking money on the dam and working with the look after our green areas, help us be a not the type of jobs we have been used to doing - the of the community at large. invest it with the whole community Zero waste society by implementing Zero times are changing, we will be leaders in new forward No-one is thinking outside communities, waste into council and then into our towns. thinking that has embraced and adapted to these changing of the norm they are businesses and Give more money to our small towns, help times. We will be leaders in business technology, global playing safe and sticking assisting farmers with us to thrive! Spend on our amenities and internet businesses. We will lead in environmental with old traditional their own on farm dam. buildings and sports clubs. Invest in trade sustainability with conservation programmes in replanting thoughts and ideas of how Forward thinking and training schemes for our youth - invest in native vegetation, sustainable land management practices, things are done. We need you need to think our youth. Trade training courses through municipal waste services. and zero waste recycling. We to move ahead, not get bigger look at the EIT. Get every young person licensed, will have an innovative supportive team at council that stuck, Out with the old and whole picture, do not particularly Maori youth as it is a fact that have paved the way for new business ideas to flourish. in with the new! disregard climate the pathway to prison for many Maori is first We will be building houses for the country, families that change and the offence driving. Support businesses into have lost homes - Edgecumbe, Christchurch, portable and significance our developing new ideas. kitset homes. We will be selling them all over NZ. But our country has as a base will be here because we will have the people to do contributor to carbon the work, the people with the expertise, the supporting emissions, it is too late businesses. We will have youth trained through trade in the day to ignore this training schemes running from EIT Waipukurau, and also potential calamity for satellite training schemes running through the maraes. our planet and Other businesses will sprout up from this because we will humanity. need joiners, electricians, plumbers, flooring specialists, painters, alternative waste removal systems, eco- sustainable lighting and power, truck transport services, there will also be scope for gardeners, landscapers, arborists, in advisory capacity also. 24 25 CHBDC should put more emphasis on the happiness and Why has the general rate CHBDC should As CHBDC has confirmed their commitment well-being of it's people. CHBDC should follow obey their gone up by 4.91% when concentrate on to the Hawke's Bay Biodiversity Strategy mission statement - 'The Central Hawke’s Bay District the LTP forecasted providing necessary and signed the Hawke's Bay Biodiversity Council will be accountable to its citizens for the good increase is 1.62%??? infrastructure and Accord they should be opposing the management of the public assets of the District and Rates should be charged services for drinking Ruataniwha Water Storage Scheme as it provide open Local Government at minimum economic on a user pays basis. water, wastewater/ will destroy a large area of CHB's natural cost, with the least possible intervention in the private lives Rates need to be kept as sewerage, roads, and native environment including it's fauna of residents.' low as possible so people rubbish disposal, and flora. Sustainability and protection of are left with more money in libraries and parks. the environment and resources should also their pockets to spend on be given a higher priority than growth. CHB their needs and wants. should aim to be a district with the happiest CHBDC should not use people and an example of environmental ratepayer money on excellence. supporting other business
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Id What does a thriving future for Central What is holding us How do we unleash our Who (in community) What are your ideas? Hawke's Bay look like? back? potential? can we work with? 26 Creative/dynamic/friendly/safe/caring/ As a whole our many We need a mixing bowl Council/community www.centralhawkesbay.co.nz - for those that live prosperity/surportive/clean. communities are lacking (could be online) to help all representatives/local in CHB - not tourism focused. Groups/business/ the 'glue/binding' to bring the communities/groups/ groups. We have many sports clubs/schools/services = promoting us all together. causes together. proactive people in our ourselves to ourselves. community across many platforms. Lets work together. 27 Developing more walking pathways in Otane, especially at the start of Higginson Street and Rochfort Street (the main road). I live along Rochfort Street, with many other mums also and it is extremely frustrating not to mention very dangerous to walk with my little one in a pram to the shop, school or bus bay at the hall. I have to walk along the road as it's very difficult with my pram to walk along the ruggard grass so therefore I get every anxious especially now the main road has become the main route for detour with the new sings having just gone up. Cars do not drive slow when they come through Otane I can assure you, but what has really made me want to send you this is because the other day I was walking and a stone flicked up and knicked my leg. I will be extremely angry if that had gone in the wrong direction and hit my little girl sitting in her pram. Otane is building quite substantially in housing numbers and the council need to consider what we as small town communities need instead of spending our rate payers money on only the big towns (ie new road 28 Quality of water in the Trying to put the longest village (Porangahau) place name on the world Roading - especially ours map. I know there is a group - our road was never done of locals trying to do this, but right and therefore is they just do not have the constantly a mes, and skills to push it through. For also there are other roads something that is iconic I feel around our are which are it needs to be a focus, as just not up to standard. people come here to look at it and are quite disappointed that it's just a sign on the road and nothing around ti.
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