THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 15 APRIL 2021

MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 201 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East)

Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Acting Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms K. Kokoro Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration

Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development

Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security

Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development

Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development

Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security

Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education

Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

Names Constituency

RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP. Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 15TH APRIL, 2021

CONTENTS PAGE (S)

LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME...... 1-5

QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 6-17

BUSINESS MOTION...... 18, 23

Income Tax (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No. 13 of 2021) Second Reading (Resumed Debate)...... 18-50 Committee Stage...... 51 Third Reading...... 52-53

TABLING OF PAPERS Botswana Post 2019/2020 Integrated Annual Report...... 18 Botswana Communications Regulatory Authority (BOCRA) 2020 Annual Report ...... 18 Local Enterprise Authority (LEA) Annual Report, 2019/2020...... 18 Botswana Bureau of Standards (BOBS) Annual Report, 2019/2020...... 18 Thursday 15th April, 2021 LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME

Thursday 15th April, 2021 LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Mma pele ke kope maitshwarelo THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. mo go Motlotlegi Mopalamente Rre Lesedi ka gore (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) potso ya gagwe e ka bo e tlile beke e e fetileng. Ka go goroga thari ka ntata ya holidays, ya se ka ya goroga ka P R A Y E R S nako mo ofising. Jalo he, ke mo lebogele gore a bo a ne a dumalana gore e bodiwe gompieno. Ke na le karabo * * * * ya yone jaaka a supile. Re e arabile fela ka botlalo, re LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION sa tsenye sepe se se ntsi jaaka le ene a sa tsenye dipe TIME tse dintsi. Ke tle ke e arabe jaana ka gore ke rata gore dipotso tse, di bo di boditswe ka Sekgoa. Ke di arabe ka THEME: DISNEY WORLD fa di boditsweng ka teng. Ke tlaa soboka kwa bofelong ka gore mmotsi wa yone, o e boditse ka Sekgoa le fa a e MR L. LESEDI (SEROWE SOUTH): asked His aletse sentle ka bokhutshwane ka teme ya rona. Honour the Vice President to update this Honourable House on: (i) Ka go rialo Mr Speaker, His Excellency the President Dr Mokgweetsi Eric Keabetswe Masisi (i) Government’s deal with Disney World, the terms visited Disney World in February 2019 as part of the deal propounded by the President in March of a visit to the United States of America (USA) 2019; where among other things, he was looking for (ii) whether the deal was signed, when it was signed investors to come and do business in Botswana and clear specifics of the deal and its benefits to either in partnership with the Government or with Botswana tourism; the private sector. The President and his delegation engaged in meetings with the management of (iii) when visa restrictions between the two countries Disney World to identify opportunities for the (Botswana and the United States of America) will company to collaborate with Botswana. be eased and visas issued on arrival as per the There were a number of opportunities for collaboration Disney World deal pronouncement; and that were identified to be followed up with bilateral (iv) if the deal struck with Disney World was not just negotiations with different institutions. The key area that mere electioneering talk that will never see the was identified for collaboration was the implementation light of the day. of an enhanced Customer Care training and development akin to that of the Disney World. MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Honourable Lesedi! The Botswana Public Service College was assigned to collaborate with Disney World to roll-out a training MR LESEDI: Mma ke go dumedise Motsamaisa programme which will achieve excellent customer Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Mr Speaker, ke na le potso e service for the public sector in Botswana. ke eletsang gore e lebagane Leader of the House. Jaaka o e bona, ke ne ke sa senke gore ke tsenye sepe se se kwa Mr Speaker, representatives of the Disney World company visited Botswana on a fact-finding mission in ntle. E ne ya re fa go ipapalediwa ditlhopho tsa 2019, May 2019. While in Botswana, the team toured selected Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tautona a dirisa mangwe mafoko sites such as Gaborone Bus Rank, Tlokweng Border ka company e ya Disney World. A supa gore o eletsa Post, Department of Roads Training and Safety Offices, gore e tle kwano. Ke eletsa gore Mothusa Tautona a etcetera. Following this, Disney World produced scoping arabe potso ya me go ya ka fa ke e boditseng ka teng ka report which detailed training and engagement timelines boikokobetso. Ga go na le fa e le sepe se se kwa thoko. for consideration by Government. In welcoming the Re mo kgwetlhong ya gore gompieno letlhoko la ditiro le team Mr Speaker, the Deputy Permanent Secretary to the godile. Re ne re bala mo mafaratlhatlheng a maranyane President (PSP) made some remarks which are relevant gore ditiro di tlaa bonala ka 2030. Ka bokhutshwane, and will shed light. I just wish out of the 16 paragraphs, re utlwisise gore ba bokgakala bo kae ka tumalano e ya quote fourth paragraph of the Deputy PSP, in welcoming Disney World? Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. the team to that meeting…

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MR SPEAKER: Please do. as well as creating culture of innovation for transformed service delivery. Our commitment MR TSOGWANE: “Let me take this opportunity to is to engage any organisation to help build the extend a warm welcome to the Disney Team to Botswana economy of Botswana. The customer service is and to acknowledge the inception of the Botswana one area that we are concerned of as Government. Customer Care Capacity Building Project. As you are This is why we invested so much time and people aware, His Excellency the President has made a call to to follow up on the Disney World initiative. We all of us, for Botswana to actualise his vision of the high will therefore, do everything possible to strive standards in customer care that he experienced while towards service excellence. The pronouncements he was in Disney. The Disney Institute was identified by His Excellency the President after his visit to to assist Botswana with a capacity building programme Disney World was therefore not an electioneering that will change the mind-sets of its nation to bring a talk as misconstrued by Honourable Member of change in the way we deliver services to the public. Parliament, it was real Mr Speaker. However, it Botswana Public Service College initiated discussions encountered some administrative challenges… with Disney Institute to implement the Customer Care Project. Disney Institute then produced a proposal in the HONOURABLE MEMBER: Unmute yourself Vice form of scoping and discussion documents. We are here President. today to engage with Disney in order for both Disney and ourselves to appreciate our needs and their proposed MR TSOGWANE: Ke dilo tsa ga Lesedi.That solutions.” notwithstanding, Mr Speaker, we will not be deterred from continuing on our mission of improving service (ii) Mr Speaker, in fulfilment of our procurement delivery and attracting investors to the country. I thank requirements, Disney Institute was requested to you Mr Speaker. submit a proposal based on their scoping report indicating associated cost implications. They MR LESEDI: Nnyaa ga ke kake ka go konopa VP, ke however declined to submit citing that they do not senka gore Batswana ba go utlwe. Ke a go leboga Mr deal directly with Government, after being advised Speaker. Ke a mo utlwa sentle gore a re ga go na deal by their Disney World Board. They therefore epe e e signed, gongwe ke supe jaana gore, a mme sone advised Botswana Government to deal with se, a Vice President o ka bolelela Batswana gore a go ne another company in the USA which according to go sena ka epe tsela e Batswana go neng go le botlhokwa them does things “the Disney World Way”. This gore ba ka itse gore a deal e ga e sa tlhole e le teng? Kana was never proceeded with because our interest was gakere fa go iwa ditlhophong, go tlaa buiwa dingwe tse on “Disney World” and not any other company at di tlaa diragalang, dingwe di sa diragale. that point in time. As a result, Mr Speaker, no deal or contract was signed with Disney Institute. Sa bofelo se ke ka ke se mmotsang ke gore, a mme o a bona gore ditsholofetso tse ba neng ba di dira ka nako ya (iii) Mr Speaker, the issue of easing of visa restrictions ipapaletso ditlhopho, bontsi jwa tsone ga di a kgonega? between any two countries, is a matter that is Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. negotiated through diplomatic channels, and whenever agreements are reached, proper MR TSOGWANE: Kana ditsholofetso tsa ditlhopho communication is made. With regard to visa Honourable Member of Parliament ga se tsa dikgwedi restrictions between Botswana and the United tse pedi tse tharo, ke tsa dingwaga tse tlhano. Dingwe States of America, we will continue discussions on di ka kgonega go direga, dingwe tsa se ka tsa kgona go how to ease the restrictions, but you are all aware direga ka mabaka a a farologanyeng. Re ne re sa solofetsa that with the advent of COVID-19 pandemic, batho gore re tlaa nna le COVID-19, mme e diragetse, countries have become more stringent on who they e ne e se nngwe ya ditsholofetso tsa rona. Jaanong ke allow to come into their shores. dingwe tse re tshwanetseng go itse gore ditsholofetso di na le mabaka a a farologanyeng. Jaanong re santse re na (iv) Our pursuit for achieving service excellence Mr le tse re tlaa di dirang Rre Lesedi, o se ka wa fela pelo, Speaker, led us to engage with Disney World, e tlaare ka 2024 re tlaa tlhomamisa mo setšhabeng tse this was a demonstration that we want to build re di kgonneng le tse re sa di kgonang, mme e bile re better working teams, connecting with customers, tlaa baya ka botlalo mabaka a a utlwalang, a a bonwang

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ke mongwe le mongwe gore tse re sa di kgonang, ke ka buiwang e nna ditsholofetso di setse di dirilwe, e tlaabo mabaka afe. Jaanong ke lebogela potso ya gore go ka e satlhole ele ditsholofetso. Ditsholofetso ke pele ga selo itsisiwe Batswana, ke boammaaruri ba ka itsisiwe, mme se dirwa gore re na le maikaelelo a go dira jaana le jaana. fela jaaka a botsa potso jaana, ke nngwe ya ditsela to Ke tsaya gore Setswana se tlhamaletse fela se a utlwala. hold Government accountable, le gore re kgone go nna le sebaka sa go itsise Batswana. Jaanong le rona re a mo E nngwe e ne e bua ka Disney World gore ke ya lebogela fa a botsa dipotso tse ntseng jalo; di maleba. bodiragatsi. Ga ke itse, gongwe Rre Gobotswang o itse Ke a leboga. thata ka Disney World, mme e re buang ka yone e, re ne se re sa bue ka bodiragatsi. Fa e le gore e na le lekalana LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (MR la bodiragatsi, nnyaa re ne re se kwa go leo. Ke buile SALESHANDO): Point of procedure. I just want to gore report e teng; ke tshotse report jaaka ke bua jaana, find out on a procedural point, are we proceeding to the ya Disney World e e leng dipuisanyo tse e rileng fa ke next questions, or ba re tsholeditseng re letlelelwa go bua ke supa gore Deputy Permanent Secretary to the botsa follow up questions on the answer given by the President (DPSP) o ne a amogela team ya Disney World. VP? Ke badile ka botlalo ke sa bue fela, ke nopola mafoko a ga DPSP a amogela team eo, a bua ka customer service. MR SPEAKER: …(inaudible)… Jaanong ga ke itse gore Dr Gobotswang, ngaka e tona MR SALESHANDO: Re ne re tsholeditse sir for follow ya dikitso, a o ne a sa nkutlwe fa ke nopola mafoko ao. up questions. Jaanong ga ke gane gore Disney World gongwe ke ya bodiragatsi ntlha e nngwe, mme rona re ne re se koo, MR SPEAKER: On the screen? re ne re bua ka customer service Rre Gobotswang. Ya bodiragatsi re tlaa bua le Tona yo o lebanyeng, gongwe MR SALESHANDO: Ee rra. o tlaa bua le bone ka tsa bodiragatsi. Ke a leboga.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. MR SALESHANDO: Ke a go leboga Motsamaisa Honourable Vice President, golo fa le bua jaanong ka Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke batla go gakolola Vice customer care, mme kana fa o bua ka Disney World, President (VP) gore go boammaaruri gore go le gantsi ditsholofetso ke gore ke kgang ya bodiragatsi, gore Tautona o ntsha dikgang; tota e bile e se ditsholofetso, a jaanong ya customer care e ne ya tsena fa kae ka gore re go diragaditswe, di ise di diragale, go se boammaaruri. kgang ke bodiragatsi? A mme jaanong le lona a le ne le le Ya ntlha ke yone e o kileng wa patelesega go tla fa gore mo customer care kana le ne le dule mo bodiragatsing? nnyaa Tautona o ne a rile madi a bonetse a tsela ya Maun; ka madi a China, wa tla wa bua gore ga go a nna Potso ya bobedi ke gore, o tlaa lemoga Mothusa Tautona jalo ka dipotso tsone tse. Ke batla go dirisa mafoko a gore Tautona Masisi o na le go dira ditsholofetso tse Tautona a a dirisitseng when announcing Disney Land Mr Speaker, o rile ‘we have struck a deal with Disney dintsintsi; kwa bo Maun, ditsela di tlaa dirwa ka loans Land’ go teng mo dipampiring tsa bobegadikgang. A re tsa kwa China, le bo le fetoga. Ke ne ke batla go itse gore ‘re dirile tumalano le ba Disney Land.’ Ga se tsholofetso, mme ka yone Disney World, jaanong le ithutile eng mo ke kitsiso. Jaanong Mothusa Tautona, a le tlaa amogela goreng mo nakong e e tlang Tautona o tshwanetse gore a gore Tautona o ne a sa bolele boammaaruri, la ikopa dire dipego tsa gagwe a di bolelela setšhaba tota a setse a maitshwarelo mo setšhabeng? dirile tiro e kanakang? Se re se bonang ke gore, jaanong go raya gore o bua fela mme go ise go dirwe sepesepe Sa bobedi, fa a re we have struck a deal with Disney Land, o ne a bua mafoko a mangwe; and I am quoting fela se o ka tlang wa se bolelela setšhaba rraetsho. Ke a him verbatim, word for word; a re ‘I have instructed leboga. Minister Makgato to categorise taxis so that there can MR TSOGWANE: Ke a leboga motlotlegi. Ke tsaya be value in the taxi industry from the deal with Disney gore ke simolole ka ya bofelo. Ditsholofetso di a buiwa Land.’ rraetsho, bangwe le bangwe ba a solofetsa ba diphathi, Ke gore o ne a fa details tsa gore deal e ya Disneyland mo mananeong re kwala ditsholofetso, National e na le eng. Mothusa Tautona, a mme ga o amogele, Development Plan (NDP) le Economic Recovery and wa ikopa maitshwarelo mo Batswaneng gore bagaetsho, Transformation Plan (ERTP) ke ditsholofetso, mme ga re ne re sa le bolelele boammaaruri, e ne e le dikeletso di ise di dirwe. So ga ke itse gore ditsholofetso tse di tlaa mme rona re ne re bua re re re kgonne? Ke a leboga.

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MR TSOGWANE: Mr Speaker, mo Leader of the solofeditse horse race gore le tlaa e dira international. Opposition (LOO) a go buang, ke tlhaloso ya gagwe Le solofeditse Batswana gore le tlaa bitsa Steve Harvey ka fa ene a batlang go tlhalosa ka teng. Ga se se se a tla a dira ditiro tse di gakgamatsang. Le solofeditse diragetseng. Ke buile ka fa go simolotseng ka teng, ka Batswana gore ditiro di ya go nna tse di gakgamatsang bo ka tlhalosa gore go padile fa kae. Ka bo ka supa gore tsa koloi ya motlakase mme dilo tseo tsotlhe gompieno ba Disney World ba ne ba ntsha report e kwa bofelong, fa re re re a botsa, ga gona sepe se se teng. Jaanong dilo Board e e tsamaisang merero ya kompone ya bone, ke tse kana kamoso di kgona go tsosa dikgoberego mo yone e e tlileng ya ba raya ya re, ga ba ka ke ba dirisana lefatsheng, batho ba re, le re solofeditse mme re neeleng le Puso, ba ka dirisana le kompone kana sengwe fela. Ke ga rona mo le go re solofeditseng. Tota o a reng ka se gone fa go tlileng ga pala teng ka gore re ne re dirisana le Honourable VP gore Batswana ba tlhaloganye seemo sa yone ka the Public Service College (PSC), e ke supileng lona gore le ne le reng, re utlwe sentle le gore tota ke sentle ka botlalo. Jaanong ga gona sepe sa go ikopa eng le itlhaganela to announce mme go ise go butswe? maitshwarelo Rre Saleshando ka gore go a tlhalosega Ke a leboga. gore go diragetse eng. MR TSOGWANE: Ke tsaya gore ga gona potso. Gongwe ke tle ke thuse fa ka interpretation ya an English Batlotlegi ba itshegeditse ka ditsholofetso tse ba santseng word ya ‘misconstruing’ or ‘misconstrued’. Gongwe the ba di letetse, mme tse di tlaa gorogang. Jaanong fa e le ya Honourable Members misconstrued gore re dirile deal, ga Steve Harvey, kana e santse e tsweletse, ga se gore re to mean that we have signed it. We have made a deal but latotse. Ga re ise re latole ka ene, mme le a itse gore e rile we did not sign it with Disney, so it was misconstrued. If go tsweng kwa re duleng teng dilo di ntse di tsweletse, le I may quote from the Collins English Dictionary, when bana bangwe ba ne ba felela ba nna le gone gore ba ye I use the word ‘misconstrued,’ I use it carefully Mr go rutuntshiwa (trained), le a tlhaloganya. E bile le bone Speaker and I quote, “If you misconstrue something that ba Botswana Television (BTV), re mo dithulaganyong has been said or something that happens, you interpret it tsa go bona gore go ka dirwa jang for it to accommodate wrongly.” That is the definition of ‘misconstrue.’ So they dithulaganyo tsa go nna jaana. Ga se ditsholofetso fela are not wrong for misconstruing the President’s words Ramogapi. E tlaa re ngwaga o ya go wela, fa e le gore o for saying that I have signed a deal when he said I made ka nna lesego wa boa gape mo Palamenteng, dingwe o a deal. tlaa tla o di bona di diragala le mo Palamenteng e e tlang. Ke a leboga. The same with the Chinese, re ne re dumalane le bone but we did not sign the contract because there are processes MR MMOLOTSI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke a tse di tshwanetseng go dirwa gore jaanong loan e leboga Mothusa Tautona. Mothusa Tautona, a mme ga dumelelwe. Mr Speaker, fa ke tswa kwa ke tlaabong ke o lemoge gore jaanong e setse o kare ke selo sa letsatsi tswa teng, ga go tshwane le fa ke hula phuti, ke bo ke le letsatsi gore le tlaa bua dikgang thatathata Tautona, tla ke re ke bolaile phuti. It is different but fa ke tla ka a bua ditsholofetso, e bo e le gore e ntse e le ene gape ditsholofelo tse ke itseng gore ke dumalane le bangwe o a itatola? A ga le bone gore go solofetsa mo go gore re tlaa dira jaana, ke tla ke re ee, re dumalane kanakana, ke gone mo go dirang gore batho ba nne le mme ga go reye gore… Le Motswana a re sephetso expectations tse dintsi mme e re fa go pala, ba bo ba ga se molato. Fa e le gore ba fetogile ka mabaka a ba nna jaanong o kare ba nna le …(inaudible)… Jaanong fetogileng ka one, ga se molato wa rona. I thank you Mr Mothusa Tautona, a ga o bone gore go botoka gore go Speaker. tswa gompieno go ya kwa pele, Tautona a fokotse go MR RAMOGAPI: Nnyaa, ke a leboga Mr Speaker. solofetsa dilo, bogolo a bolelele setšhaba ka dilo di setse Kana Honourable Vice President, dipotso tse re di di diragetse? Gompieno jaana re setse re le mo seemong botsang tse, re di boletsa Batswana ka gore tota ba se e leng gore wa re you made a deal and did not sign it. reeditse, ba letile ka matlho a mahibidu. Tota ga se kgang Jaanong kana fa o e baya ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, go thata ya Disney World fela e le nosi, se re lekang gore se bua gore you made a deal and you did not sign it. Mo go nna ke gore bagaetsho, ka tsamaiso ya go busa lefatshe, ga making a deal is the same as signing it. So re tshameka le a tshwanela go bua sepe fela pitsa e ise e wele, le ka mafoko fela. A mme ga o bone gore golo mo go tlaa le re re dumalane mme ga re ise re saene. Ke bua se ka tlhobosa fa pele ga setšhaba gore le batho ba ba senang gore Honourable VP, kwa Palapye kana le rona le re boammaaruri?

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MR TSOGWANE: Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re Mme tsaya ka tlhoafalo motlotlegi, jaaka mo kgannyeng e ya Manake ke ntse ke bona a kwadile (posted) foo ka sengwe, market wa dipodi; Batswana ba kgaolo ba e leng batsadi le ka se bala. Mr Speaker, ke utlwa Rre Mmolotsi, ga ba me, ba ne ba e tsaya ka tlhoafalo. gona sepe se se ka tsosang tlhatlharuane mo kgannyeng e ke e buang ka gore e tlhamaletse fela. Fa e ne e le gore Ke bone ba e rileng maloba ba boa ba nthoma gore a re tlile fa re bo re itatola gore ga re ise re buisane le ko o ye go botsa gore lenaneo le la market wa dipodi Disney, ke ka bo ke utlwa. Jaanong ga gona sepe se re le tsamaya fa kae, mme karabo e re fa e tswa mo Ntlo se itatotseng se e leng gore re mo thulaganyong ya go se e ya itaya se phoroletse. Jaanong ke sone se tota re dira. So re tlaa tswelela re dira dithulaganyo tsa go dira batlang go tlhaloganya gore, a motlotlegi wa re kgang e ditsholofetso, unless batho ba withdraw ditsholofetso ya ditsholofelo re nne re dumele, re tswelele re tsamaye tsotlhe tse ba di dirileng; bo Rre Mmolotsi ka the new ka yone fela, mme go seke go nna le epe tsholofelo e e Botswana, e re iseng re e bone, e feletse mo phefong. konateletsweng, kana e a bo e le volunteerism go tswa If they can withdraw ditsholofetso tse ba di dirang mo mo go Tautona offering ditsholofetso a sa bodiwe? Ke manifestos tsa bone, nnyaa, ke ka utlwa gore ba bua a leboga. ka ga eng. Jaanong ditsholofetso re tlaa di dira batho MR TSOGWANE: Nnyaa, ga ke itse e a buang ka yone ba Modimo ka maikaelelo e bile re supa gore re ya go ya gore lenaneo la dipodi le iteile se fololetse, ke gore dira eng le bomang. Fa go kgonagala, re tlaa tswelela ga ke kgone go tlhaloganya ka gore dipuisanyo tse di re dira jalo, le fa go sa kgonagale ka mabaka a go sa leng teng di tsweletse, go a phuthwa, go rotloediwa kgonagaleng ka teng. Gape se se monate ke gore ga di batho gore ba simolole go oketsa dipodi. Kana ga go e paledisiwe ke ntlha ya rona, di paledisiwa ke mabaka, go rekisiwa podi e le nngwe fela kana tse pedi, e ne e le jaaka yone e e paledisitswe ke mabaka a bone ka koo, e go rotloetsa gore Batswana ba nne le dipodi. Ga o ka ke seng rona. Go rialo ga se go dira ditsholofetso fela. Ke wa ya kwa Saudi Arabia o a go raya batho o re ke na le a itse gore mathata a batlotlegi ke gore Tautona a bo a dipodi o bo o tla o re, go siame jaanong tlisang dipodi, tsamaya a batlela lefatshe le kwa go ka bonalang gore re o raya tse pedi. So re a rotloetsa, jaaka o bona Tautona ka le tlhabolola ka tsela e e ntseng jang, re tshwaragane a rotloetsa, e re a tswa kwa a bo a tlhoma lenaneo la le mafatshe a mangwe. Ke one mathata fela a batlotlegi, go aba diphoko, gore batho ba nne le dipodi tsa boleng ba ka bo ba tlhamalala fela kwa kgannyeng ya bone jo bo rileng. E re fa ba simolola go a go rekisa kwa market oo o o leng teng, o e seng tsholofetso fela, ba tle gore Tautona yo o direla Batswana go le gontle, o ba ba kgone. Fa ke ka botsa Motlotlegi Reatile gore di kae batlela dithuso. O batla gore Batswana ba bonale le mo dipodi tsa gagwe, re sa bue fela ka motho wa Modimo organisations tsa mafatshefatshe. Jaanong Tautona yo yo o a tlhokang kwa kgaolong, o tlile go fitlhela e le gore ga a ba direle sentle ka gore go raya gore tse ba tlaabong gongwe tsa gagwe di tharo. Jaanong re a mo rotloetsa ba tla ba ipapatsa ka tsone di ntse di a ngotlega. Jaanong gore, tsamaya o ye go oketsa letseno la dipodi gore e ke one mathata a a leng teng mme fela ga gona sepe se tle e re kamoso o tle o robe sengwe mo mmarakeng o. se molato mo ditsholofetsong tse re di dirang le Tautona. Jaanong gatwe o se ka wa bua, o didimale fela, e bo e le Ba ka bo ba ntse ba di galaletsa fela. Ke a leboga. gore jaanong o raya batho o re tlisang dipodi, mmaraka ke o, mme o ne o tshwanetse go ba rotloetsa gore ba MR SPEAKER: Thank you VP. Honourable Manake, nne le tsone, go ipaakanyetsa mmaraka wa go nna jaana. what is wrong with the procedure? Jaanong ga se ditsholofetso fela batlotlegi, ke tse di nang ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL le mosola, di tlaa sologela setšhaba se molemo. Ke a DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MS leboga Mr Speaker. MANAKE): Nnyaa, mme ke bone thuso Mr Speaker. MR KABLAY: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. I thank you. Rraetsho ke leboge Mothusa Tautona go bo a tlhalositse MR SPEAKER: Okay. Last one, Honourable Reatile. jaaka a tlhalositse. Ga go na sepe se a se fitlhileng, o buile jaaka dilo nne Tautona wa rona a di kopile, mme MR REATILE: Tla ke go leboge Honourable Speaker. diphetolo di ntse. Kana ga go molato gore e re o kopile e Ke leboge le His Honour the Vice President. Mothusa re batho ba fetola jaaka ba fetola, wena o tlaa dira eng? Tautona, se ke neng ke re ke a se bua fa ke gore kgang ya Se se supa gore Tautona wa rona ke motho yo o tsentseng ditsholofetso tota yone ga e re sepe mo go yo e leng gore Batswana mo pelong ya gagwe. Ka fa o bonang a eme ditsholofetso tsa ga Tautona ga a di tseye ka tlhoafalo. ka dinao a bua le dikompone tse di kwa ...(inaudible)… Batswana bone fa Tautona a bua ka ditsholofetso, ba di tsa bo America...

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MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kablay! ...(inaudible).... (i) Batswana use the name Kgosikgolo loosely to this is not a debate. appreciate and distinguish their Dikgosi from the rest. These Setswana norms and practices have MR KABLAY: Thank you sir. over the years seen nothing wrong or unusual with MR SPEAKER: This is an issue of supplementary. the use of this nomenclature, and in the same vein the name Kgosikgolo does not contravene any law. MR KABLAY: Se ke se buang Mr Speaker ke gore, re It is a sign of respect and sentimental attachment utlwile se Mothusa Tautona a neng a se bua, ka karabo that Batswana have for their Dikgosi. e e tlhapileng ya gagwe. Re ne re na le keletso eo re le Goromente mme batho ba ...(inaudible)… ke ba gongwe (ii) In so far as I know and understand Mr Speaker, ka ditsamaiso tsa bone go padileng…(inaudible)… Ke the name does not cause any confusion and I have lebogile sir. never received any complaints to that effect.

MR MAJAGA: Good morning Honourable Speaker. (iii) Mr Speaker, in view of what I have explained, my Ke ne ke re ke supe gore gongwe o a nkutlwa letsatsi ministry does not intend to take any action as I leno ka gore computer ya me e na le mathata, e sa le have not established any anomaly. Thank you. jaaka maabane. O a nkutlwa Mr Speaker? MR MAJAGA: Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you MR SPEAKER: Honourable Majaga, botsa. Honourable Minister. Mongwe o ka batla go itse Honourable Minister, ka gore the so called eight major MR MAJAGA: Ee ke a botsa, ga ke mo go tse dingwe tribes Dikgosi tsa teng ba duelwa E2, e bile ba na le tse tsa …(inaudible)…di tlaa tla ka nako ya tsone. personal vehicles and Personal Secretary, ba bangwe jaaka bo Sinvula le ba bo north east bone ba mo D2 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER and ga ba na dilo tseo. Ga se gore gongwe leina leo ke lone le gongwe le leng botoka, gore Kgosikgolo, ke EXISTENCE OF THE WORD KGOSIKGOLO IN lone le le tlang ka tse dingwe tseo tse e leng gore they THE CONSTITUTION OF BOTSWANA are attached to? Gape go ntse jalo, go raya gore kgosi a tshwana le Kgosi Mengwe kwa Maitengwe, go raya MR P. MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): asked the gore re ka phuthuloga le ene ra mmitsa Kgosikgolo kwa Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Sekalakeng ka kwa, le ba bangwe ba north east le Seyei? whether the name Kgosikgolo exists in the Constitution MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Speaker, mma ke simolole ka of Botswana or any other law in Botswana; and if not, ya bofelo e motlotlegi a e buang. Mme tota fela sa ntlha to state: ke lebogela gore motlotlegi a bo a tla ka dipotso tse di (i) why Batswana are allowed to call their paramount tshwanang le tse gore re sedimosetse Batswana se e leng chiefs with names that do not exist; sone boammaaruri. Re le Batswana go le gantsi fa re tlotla Magosi a rona re ba bitsa ka maina a e leng gore (ii) if he realises that this causes confusion for the mo Molaomotheong le mo go Bogosi Act ka namana ga nation; and a yo. Magosi a rona re a bitsa Marara, bo Mmabatho, Mong wa mmu o ke o gatileng, bo Kgosikgolo jalo, ke (iii) what action he has taken so far or will take to gore ke tlotlo e re a bong re e neela Dikgosi. Mme molao correct this anomaly. one ga o na maina a. Maina a mabedi fela, ke Kgosi le Kgosana. Jaanong ka gore bogosi jwa rona ka fa bo ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL ntseng ka teng district nngwe le nngwe e na le kgosi ya GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT yone, mme bo monnaakgosi ba bo ba nna le tlhomagano (MR AUTLWETSE): Thank you Mr Speaker and a ya bone ka fa e ntseng ka teng. Ke yone pharologanyo e very good morning. e leng teng. District nngwe le nngwe e na le kgosi, ga go na fa gotweng go na le Kgosikgolo teng ka fa molaong. Mr Speaker, Section 127 of the Constitution of Botswana Re le batho koo ka ditlotlo tsa rona re bitsana jalo, ke interprets the nomenclatures of Kgosi and Kgosana and Rara, Morena, Mongwame, Kgosikgolo, ke Mong wa these are captured in Bogosi Act as explained in the mmu o re o gatang, ke ditlotlo tse rona re di neelang Constitution. There is no legal instrument that mentions Magosi a a rona. Mme ga se gore le bone ba ka fetoga ba the nomenclature of Kgosikgolo. tsaya gore ba ruile ope motho.

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Jaanong fa re tla go tsena mo go ya dituelo e nne MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Speaker, potso ya ga Motlotlegi motlotlegi a e bua, go ntse jalo, Kgosi ga a ka ke a Majaga fa re ne re e reeditse sentle, e mo lengwe amogela jaaka fa monnawe a amogela, jaaka fela le fano la letsatsi ke neng ke tshwere karabo ya yone, o ne a Minister ga a ka ke a amogela jaaka Assistant Minister, tshwenngwa ke lefoko le gotweng “Kgosikgolo”, a re go a tlhatlologana. Tautona ga a ka ke a amogela lefoko le o kare le tlisa ketsaetsego mo bathong ke ko ke jaaka mothusi wa gagwe, go a farologana. Ke tsone le tlhalose. Ke dumela gore ke le tlhalositse. dipharologanyo tse di leng teng. Molao one wa re Kgosi o bo o re Kgosana. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo Jaanong ya gore mangmang o lekana le mang, eo e tsa Palamente. tlaa batla gore gongwe e tle ka bogayone, re tle re tle go nna fatshe gore go lekana go tewa eng ka gore MR HIKUAMA: Ke a leboga Honourable Speaker, ka Molaomotheo o o dirilweng, o Batswana ba o ke a leboga Tona, ke lebogela dikarabo tsa gago tse di tlhaloganyang e bile ba o utlwisisa wa re go na le Kgosi utlwalang sentle. Fa ke sa utlwang sentle Honourable le Kgosana, ga go na motho yo gotweng Kgosikgolo. Ke Minister ke karabo ya gagwe ya gore district nngwe le Kgosi le Kgosana fela. Le Bogosi Act go jalo… nngwe e na le Kgosi. Ke batla go tlhaloganya sentle le Batswana ba utlwe sentle, gore wa re Dikgosi tse ke tsa HONOURABLE MEMBER: O sia ka tlhogo ya me districts kana ke tsa merafe ya tsone? A ke Dikgosi tsa thata, go siame. districts ga se tsa morafe, kana ke tsa merafe ya tsone? MR AUTLWETSE: Nnyaa, tlhogo ya gago e tona Ke batla o e tlhalose thata batho ba e utlwe sentle. thata Reatile e ka nkimela go sia ka yone, e bile ga e ka MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Speaker, ke rata re se ka ra ke ya tsena mo dipateng tsa me. Jaanong se re ke bua dikolosanya golo go le gongwefela ka tiriso ya mafoko. morwarre o bo o ntsena ganong ka side remark ya selo Kgosi ke ya morafe, mme morafe o na le fa o nnang se ke se ka keng ka kgona go se dira. teng, ga o mo lefaufuang fela. Kgosi ke ya morafe, ga Ke raya gore potso ya ga Motlotlegi Majaga, e nna ke le se ya motse, ke ya morafe o o foo. A e ka nna district leng fano ke e ratileng thata, e ke bileng ke dumela gore kana fa kae fela, e a bo e le Kgosi ya batho bao ka fa ene ke e arabile, e ntse jalo batlotlegi. Jaanong se nkgogeleng Kgosi ya bone a tlholegileng ka teng. Go na le tsamaiso ya gore Dikgosi tsa rona kana Marara a rona… go na le kwa thaelong e le se ka keng la tloga la nkgolola kwa dikatso tsa bone ka fa re neng ra dumalana gore re di go yone. Fa e le gore le bona dithamakgorwana kana tlhatlologanye ka teng, gore Kgosi yo o tlhokometseng leferetlho mo Molaomotheong wa lona ka fa o ntseng ka batho ba ba ntseng jaana, kana Kgosi wa lefelo la gore, teng, tlang ka Ditshutiso tsa gore le o baakanye ka gore dikatso tsa gagwe e ka nna tse di ntseng jang. Ke dilo o dirilwe ke lona, e seng nna. Ga se nna yo ke dirileng tse re tshelang le tsone di ntse jalo. Magosi a rona ke Molaomotheo, ka bo ka re go nne le Kgosi le Kgosana. Magosi a a mo districts, a a mo lefatsheng la Botswana, Le fa le ne le se Mapalamente ka nako eo, mme kana you a a mo dikgaolong tsa one ka fa di ntseng ka teng. Le have inherited that. Ke lona ba le dirileng gore go nne le dikamogelo tsa bone di lebile jalo gore re bua ka batho Kgosi le Kgosana. Fa le na le dikakanyo tsa dipaakanyo ba ba fa kae, ba farologana jang, e seng ka semorafe. dingwe le bona gore nako e le batla go dira dipaakanyo Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. dingwe, a go tle ka lona beng bame. Le se ka la re nna fano ke bo ke tla go rarabolala mathata a e leng a rona MR BROOKS: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. rotlhe gore ke eng yo e le Kgosana yo ene e le Kgosi, Good morning sir. Mr Minister, re a go utlwa, go na ke eng ba sa lekane, go ne go lebilwe eng? Ga se nna le fa o sa weleng teng sentle. Ke batla o tlhamalale o ke neng ke se lebile, nna le lona re a tshwana. Fa e le arabe potso e e neng e botswa ke Honourable Majaga gore go batla gore re baakanye, a re baakanyeng rotlhe. fa a neng a go botsa gore a wa re Dikgosi tse eight tse Fa e le gore ke mokgweleo, a re o sikareng rotlhe, le o buileng ka tsone di bona katsonyana e e botoka, ba ba se ka la ntswela. Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa kwa tlase ga bone kana ba e seng ba merafe e eight e e Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. ka fa molaong ba ba nnyennyane mo go bale? Ke gone fa ke batlang go tlhaloganyang teng gore a o sega tsela CITIZENSHIP fa gare ga ba ba supilweng mo Molaomotheong le ba ba sa supiwang mo go one? A ko o re tlhalosetse re tle re DR U. DOW (SPECIALLY ELECTED): asked the utlwe kgang ya Bogosi. Thank you Speaker. Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs:

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(i) whether she accepts that citizenship is bestowed o o fetileng o ne wa re bolelela the very same answer upon one by operation of the law of the country e o re e bolelelang gompieno gore the Bill is coming. bestowing same and that it is unfair, inconvenient Naare tsamaiso ya go tlisa Bill kwano e diragala jang? A and distressing for one to be punished for acts that le draft pele kwa Attorney General (AG) a bo go tla go are not one’s own, as when it is found that an adult tlhamaletse mo Palamenteng kana e tla e tswa Cabinet person did not renounce a citizenship, that in some e bo e ya AG e bo e tla e tlhamaletse mo Palamenteng? cases one did not even know they had; A o re raya o re mafoko a o neng o re a raya ngwaga o o fetileng a gore Bill e etla ga se boammaaruri? (ii) if she is aware that there are many people who were born with dual citizenship, have never MS MOKGETHI: Thank you Honourable Kekgonegile. sought to enjoy the other, but are now facing You are right that in 2019 Parliament passed the Motion legal, educational, residence and other challenges which you had presented to Parliament. You will note associated with failing to renounce that other Honourable Kekgonegile gore that Motion was passed citizenship upon turning 21 years old; and unopposed by this ministry and it had the support of all the sides; the opposition side and the ruling party side. (iii) what legal and/or policy reforms she plans to initiate to solve this problem. As I have indicated to you in reading my answer, we want to carry out a wholesome exercise of reviewing MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION the Citizenship Act. We want to look at the Citizenship AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MOKGETHI): Act as a whole and all its provisions, rather than just Thank you Mr Speaker. Let me also thank you looking at one section. That is the process that we are Honourable Dr Dow. currently undertaking, hence why I said that we have already drafted a Cabinet Memorandum that will follow (i) Mr Speaker, my ministry accepts that citizenship is bestowed upon one by operation of the law through the processes. Once we have followed all those of the country and citizenship laws are aimed at processes, that is when it will go to the Attorney General determining how an individual gains or losses Chamber and so on. That is when it will be brought citizenship of a particular country. Furthermore, before Parliament. So I am pleading with you to exercise my ministry acknowledges that there are certain patience, so that you can allow us to do a comprehensive people who find themselves experiencing review of the entire Citizenship Act. I thank you Mr challenges with respect to citizenship as a result Speaker. of being born of a Motswana and non-Motswana MR MOTSAMAI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr parent. It is however, notable that my ministry is Speaker, ke botse kgaitsadiake Mma Mokgethi gore fa a currently undertaking a comprehensive review of the Citizenship Act to address among others such re Rre Kekgonegile a wele dibete, kgang e e apeilwe, e challenges. mo tseleng, o raya gore go tlaa mo tsaya lebaka le le kae gore comprehensive constitution e ba buang ka yone, e (ii) As noted in my answer to the previous question, bo e setse e wetse? Sale jaaka re tsena fa, re tewa gotwe my ministry acknowledges the challenges resulting e etla e etla, re e emetse ga e bonale. E rile re ntse re from failure to renounce the other citizenship upon e emetse Mr Speaker, go bo go simololwa jaanong go attaining age 21 and it is currently working at shasholwa go jelwa pitsa mo isong, go jewa tse di leng the current law in order to facilitate this group of mo pitseng tse di apeileng Constitution. people. Ya bofelo ke bo ke re, go a reng Mme Mokgethi fa o kare (iii) Mr Speaker, in realising challenges that often arise, ministry wa gago o tlaa salela thatathata kwa morago? my ministry is undertaking a wholesome review of A mme o ka se ke nako nngwe o beye Palamente pele the Citizenship Act with a view to address such challenges. A Cabinet Memorandum is currently dintlha dingwe, tse o di kgonang le tse o sa di kgoneng, being drafted to this effect. I thank you Mr Speaker. re go thuse gore o tswe kwa morago ka dikgang tsa Batswana. Ke a go leboga. DR DOW: No further questions Mr Speaker. MS MOKGETHI: Thank you Honourable Motsamai. MR KEKGONEGILE: Supplementary. Tanki Mr Your question in a nutshell is, how long will this Speaker. Honourable Minister, kana ka 2019, a year and comprehensive review exercise take? However, pinning half ago, Parliament e ne ya fetisa Motion mme ngwaga me down to a timeframe will be somewhat unfair on my

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part, because as I said we are at the draft stage. From the Kgang ya boagedi ke selo se se gaufi le dipelo tsa draft stage, it starts circulating through all departments, Batswana, ke sone se go leng botlhokwa gore re dire ministries and relevant stakeholders, only then will it go morero, re tsamaye re rerisa Batswana ka kgang e e to Cabinet. Those processes are not within my control. botlhokwatlhokwa e tshwana le boagedi. Re tshwanetse Unfortunately, as much as I would like to give you an go tlhaloganye gore go dira morero o, go raya gore re affirmative answer, I find myself having difficulty to give tsamaya lefatshe ka bophara mo dinakong tse mogare you a timeframe within which it will be done save to say o gaketseng mo go kanakana. So, re kgoreleditswe go that, I note the concerns of the Honourable Members, dira morero ka fa re neng re ikaeletse go o dira ka teng. I noted the inconvenience experienced by Batswana, those who have parents whom one is a Motswana Le tlaa nama le re inetse diatla metsing re le ministry, le and the other one a non-Motswana. Let me just state fa go lebega e kete go a diega. Re letleleleng go dirisa that in the interim, Batswana who find themselves in tsamaiso eo ya go rerisana le Batswana. Thank you Mr those circumstances are encouraged to take advantage Speaker. of the administrative processes that my ministry has put in place in order to ensure that they do not result REMOVAL OF PEOPLE FROM THE in statelessness. Currently what is happening is that, KGALAGADI TRANSFRONTIER PARK AREA ignorance of the law is what results in statelessness. MR S. J. BROOKS (KGALAGADI SOUTH): Therefore, I will respectfully request Honourable asked the Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Members to encourage their constituents to approach Conservation and Tourism if she is aware that people my office and take advantage of the administrative were removed from the Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park processes that allow them to apply for resumption of area to give way for the establishment of the Park; and citizenship. I thank you Mr Speaker. if so: MR HIKUAMA: Supplementary. Ke a leboga (i) were they compensated; Honourable Speaker, ke a leboga Honourable Minister. Tona, o e arabile fela jaana last year, o e araba sentle (ii) how were they compensated (in kind or cash); and fela jaana re bo re rokotsega. Ke batla go itse gore, se se dirang gore o dire this comprehensive review of the (iii) where they have been relocated to. Citizenship Act, a bonya jo bo kana bo tlisiwa ke go tlhoka bodiredi? Do you have shortage of manpower MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL in drafting dilo tse, kana ke boitseme fela jwa Puso RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM ya gago le lephata le o le eteletseng pele kana ga o na (MS KERENG) Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Thank you urgency on this matter? O e araba the same way nako Honourable Brooks ka potso ya gago. The Kgalagadi tsotlhe, mme go sena an inch which shows that you have Transfrontier Park e e tlhomilweng ka ngwaga wa moved. What causes all these delays and snail pace ka 1999, e ne ya saenelwa ditumalano gareng ga lefatshe fa o dirang dilo ka teng, mme go lebega e kete wa re la Botswana le South Africa ka 1999 gore di kopane; kgang e e mo pelong ya gago o batla e diragala? Bonya Park e e kopantse the Gemsbok National Park ya South jwa teng ga bo supe fa o e tsere ka masheta, o batla gore Africa le Botswana, to merge the Gemsbok National e diragale e bile go fele. Mathata ke eng? Park…

MS MOKGETHI: Thank you Honourable Member. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of correction Mr Let me first start by explaining that, you must recall Speaker, I am sorry. The Minister is not referring to the that Botswana is a democratic country. A country which correct question, that is a different question. Remember is anchored on democratic principles; one of those I have two questions in your office. Go na le ya bilateral principles is that of consultation. Ka Setswana gatwe agreement between the two countries, go na le this one morero; morero ke one konokono mo dikgannyeng ya removal ya batho from the Kgalagadi Transfrontier tse. O tshwanetse o tlhaloganye gore, fa re ntse re re Park (KTP). Thank you for your patience Mr Speaker. re baakanya molao, re se ka ra tlogela Batswana kwa morago, segolobogolo fa re bua ka selo se se tshwanang MS KERENG: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke e tshwere le boagedi jwa lefatshe. Kgang ya boagedi ke selo sentle, fela ke gore ke ne ke santse ke re ke fa background. se setona mo botshelong jwa motho, gore a itse gore Mr Speaker, e rile fa park e e dirwa, go supega fa go ne boagedi jwa gagwe bo mo Botswana, kwa lefatsheng le go na le batho ba ba kileng ba sutisiwa mo mafelong a lengwe kana jang. park e neng ya tsena mo go one, e le families di le 84 le

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diruiwa di ka nna 5000. Go diregile jalo ka ngwaga wa re le mmogo kwa Kgalagadi, re ka bo re dumalane ka 1938 jaaka re itse gore ke bogologolo pele ga boipuso bo lenaneo le le botoka le re ka le dirang gore re tsene mo tsena. Lephata la me ga le itse ka sepe sa go ka ntshiwa archives re ye go bona gore go diragetse jang. Fa e le ga batho mo park morago ga 1966 le gore compensations gore go santse go na le batho ba ba santseng ba le mo tse di neng di dirwa ka 1938, fa batho ba fudusiwa, ga botlhokong mabapi le diphuduso tseo, o a itse gore ga re na information gore di ka tswa di dirilwe ka tsela e ke ka ke ka swabisa Batswana, batho ba Kgalagadi ka e ntseng jang. Batho ba ba neng ba ntshiwa gone mo go tlhoka go ba thusa, e le wena o nkaetseng gore go na lefelong leo, ba mo mafelong a gompieno a bidiwang le bothata jo bo ntseng jang fa kae. Bokspits, Struizendam le Gakhibane. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Dikgang tsa didiba tse di kwa park tse gompieno di berekang go tlisa meamuso ya go tlhokomela MR BROOKS: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. diphologolo, bojanala jalo, ga ke itse fa go na le dikgang Thank you Minister for this short answer which is not tse di tshwenyang tse o di buang le dintsho tse di convincing e bile e ka se ke motho a e nwele metsi. diragetseng. Mma ke go reye fela ke re rra, ga o ise o Minister, a wa re se se diragetseng pele ga boipuso, ntekodise, fa o ne o ntekodisitse, ga go na jaaka re ka lephata la gago ga le tsene mo teng? Is this not the same bo re sa tsenelela dikgang tsa go nna jalo. Ke kopa gore park e re buang ka yone gompieno re le mo boipusong, e fa go ntse jaana, o rulaganye tiro e re tshwanetseng go e neng e le teng pele ga boipuso? Are these not the same tsenya leitlho teng. Fa e le gore go ye go epololwa kwa people ba re buang ka ga bone, ba ba neng ba le teng archives jaaka ke ne ke bua, go nne jalo, as long as go na pele ga boipuso, ba gompieno mo boipusong, re buang le dingongorego. Jaanong rra ka re ga o ise o ntebaganye ka ga bone? dikgang, ke ka se di latlhelele ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke wetse ka go go lebogela gore se ke se buang fa, o tswa go se itseela ka di 24 tsa December 2020, o le kwa GENDER AFFAIRS EMPOWERMENT Transfrontier, o itseela dikgang tse. La bofelo ke gore, PROGRAMME a ga o mo maikaelelong a to set up a task team e e ka dirang ditlhotlhomiso tse di tseneletseng gore e re o MR J. L. THIITE (GHANZI NORTH): asked the araba batho ba Kgalagadi South, o bo o kgona go itse Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs bothata jo ba neng ba kopana le jone ka nako e ba neng if she is aware that the Gender Affairs Empowerment ba sutisiwa, leruarua le le ba jeleng la go tlhoka metsi Programme was not rolled out to applicants in 2020 jaaka re bua jaana ka go bo ba tlogetse didiba tsa bone pending the review of the guidelines; if so: kwa bo …(inaudible)…gompieno jaana di dirisiwa ke (i) what is the exact status of this review exercise; and lephata la gago la diphologolo. Ke ne ke re Minister, se nne o latlhelela batho ba Kgalagadi ka bokete jo bo kana (ii) when the programme will be open for applicants. because now le dirisa metsi a didiba tseo, mme bone they are outside there, ba a sokola, they are not compensated, MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION ba swa ka dipelo tse di botlhoko. Ba babedi ba sa tswa go AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MOKGETHI): tlhokafala last year, Rre Moses le Rre Fredrick, dipelo Thank you Mr Speaker. Let me also thank Honourable tsa bone di ntse di le botlhoko, ba lebile seatla sa gago Thiite, Member of Parliament (MP) for Ghanzi North. gore wa reng ka matshelo a bone, ka fa ba sotlegileng ka Mr Speaker, I am aware that the Women Economic teng ka go ntshiwa mo park. Ga ba dingalo mme ba feel Empowerment Programme was not rolled out to all gore ga le a ka la ba tsaya sentle. Thank you sir. applicants, awaiting Government decision on the implementation of the new programme. MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Honourable Brooks, ga ke tseye gore ke ne ke dira phoso fa ke Mr Speaker, the Women Economic Empowerment supa gore ga ke na information e e tlhalosang gore ka Programme was suspended in February 2017 pending nako eo ya 1938, diphuduso di diragetse ka tsela e e its review which was concluded in 2019 and submitted ntseng jang. Ke batla go lemoga se o se tlhagisang mo to Cabinet for consideration. Following this, Cabinet bogompienong, e le sa ntlha ke se utlwa ka gore ga o ise resolved that a Cabinet Sub-committee be established; o ko o ntebaganye le sone gore go na le dingongorego comprising of Ministers of Investment, Trade and tse di ka tswang di le teng mabapi le diphuduso tseo. E Industry; Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public ka bo e rile fa o kile wa nneela dikgang tseo le fa re ne Administration; Transport and Communications; Youth

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Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development; The question would be; Honourable Minister, how Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology; much are you willing to assist as a ministry responsible Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs and for women? How much are you willing to assist me, Agricultural Development and Food Security. The as it is evident that there is so much land belonging to sub-committee will amongst others, advise Cabinet Government, that remains unused? How much are you on harmonisation of all economic empowerment willing to take this land for women to start economic programmes implemented by Government, including projects? I thank you Honourable Minister. the Women Economic Empowerment, institutional capacity for implementation, resourcing, effective MS MOKGETHI: Let me thank you for that coordination and monitoring and evaluation. Noting supplementary question Honourable Thiite. Let me the importance of citizen economic empowerment and just say that, the extent of your concern for women and the extensive assessment and consultation that has to their economic participation is commendable. Let me be done on the economic empowerment programme, acknowledge that, what you have said is indeed true. The including the Women Economic Empowerment, the majority of women have been sidelined economically. In programme remains suspended until the review process fact, the truth of the matter is that, a great number of our is completed by Cabinet. The nation will as such be women are economically dependent on men and hence informed once Government has made a decision. I thank the need for them to be empowered, so that they can you Mr Speaker. also be economically independent. You refer to young mothers and different categories of women including MR THIITE: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. those who are in the informal sector. This exercise that Thank you Honourable Minister for your answer. you have referred to, of going to Cabinet and being Honourable Speaker, would you allow me to lay down referred back to a subcommittee involving several revolving facts and challenges that bedevil women ministries, let me assure you that we as a sub-Cabinet, before I put across my two supplementary questions. have met and deliberated on this matter. Key amongst all Mr Speaker, it is evident that women in all their these things is that, these empowerment programmes are groupings take the lead when it comes to the informal scattered all over Government departments in particular, sector. It is quite evident, be it the retired women or the ministries I have just referred to. It is important that skilled women, young mothers, youthful women, all the there be harmonisation of all these programmes. They categories of women. In 2015; a study showed that the are all empowerment programmes. It is important that informal sector alone, by then created about 190, 000 when they are under one roof, whatever organisation jobs which I believe in my view were mostly women. they will be, will have the necessary institutional This translated to about 7.8 billion contributions to capacity to implement them. That institution will have Gross Domestic Product (GDP) by 5.3 per cent. The the necessary resources and it will be able to effectively challenges that bedevil women are none other than coordinate, monitor and evaluate. The constraints that poor working environment Minister, inadequate access the ministry had, particularly under the Gender Affairs to operating space or land, poor access to inputs and Department was that, we were resource constrained; resources, facilities and low participation of women in financial and human resource constraints. We did not policymaking that affects their lives. have the necessary capacity under the Gender Affairs Honourable Minister, I hear when you say a Department to effectively assess all the applications recommendation was done to Cabinet, and you have which were coming. Hence, this is the institutional lack since assembled a team that will look into this to assist of capacity the Gender Affairs suffered from. We did not Government. My question is, how much consultation have the necessary tools for monitoring and evaluation have you been doing and are you going to continue and assess all the applications which came to the ministry. to do, specifically involving women in their different Let me indicate that, it does not mean we do not have groupings to advise in this review? In my constituency programmes that can assist Batswana. Let me remind alone Honourable Minister, it has shown that many you that under Citizen Entrepreneurial Development projects that women seek to be financed for, fail because Agency (CEDA), we have Mabogo Dinku Programme, of the situation or the circumstances of the district. You of which 90 per cent of the applicants are women. Now are quite aware that in my constituency or the entire we have the new Revised CEDA Guidelines under which district, we have a problem ya gore dikgaolo tsa rona ke the youth, women and people living with disabilities are tsa kwa tennyanateng. able to apply. The requirements have been relaxed in

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terms of the security, the amount of interest they pay bewa under one roof. Ke gone re tlaa bonang gore e ya and the length of time it takes for them to apply. We go tsewa ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Kwa bofelong jwa also have under National Development Bank (NDB), karabo ya me ke ne ke re, the nation will as such be programmes that will also embrace women. What we informed once Government has made a decision. have realised is that, there was a tendency for double- dipping under all these empowerment programmes. You Gape ke tlhalose fela gore malatsing a Botswana is considered to be a middle income class country. Mo will double-dip if you are a youth. You find that people go rayang gore the scope is narrowing for us gore had applied at Gender Affairs Department and Ministry re tswelele re ntse re thusa batho ka grants. It is an of Youth and benefit from that. So, it is important that international best practice go thusa bomme ka dikadimo we have all these empowerment programmes under ka madi a a bidiwang soft loans a o duelang interest e e one roof, which has all the necessary resources and kwa tlase. O fiwa sebaka se se telelenyana go duela loan the expertise to avoid the situation of double-dipping. o bo o fiwa easy terms tsa collateral. Ke tsibogela kgang Let me just also stress that this country can never be ya gago mme e bile ke lemoga se o se buang Honourable economically developed when women are excluded and Monnakgotla. Thank you so much. hence, it is an issue which is close to my heart. I want HONOURABLE MEMBER: Last supplementary, Mr to ensure that women of Botswana are economically Speaker. empowered. I believe that once we have put all these empowerment programmes under one roof, Batswana MR SPEAKER: Honourable Thiite, and the last one women will continue to benefit from such programmes. Honourable Motsamai. I thank you Mr Speaker. MR THIITE: Supplementary. Honourable Minister, I MS MONNAKGOTLA: Supplementary. Ke a leboga appreciate your answer previously. You are quite aware Minister for that question. Minister, bomme bontsi ga that quite a number of applications have not been taken ba bereke. Ba na le bana mo metseng ba ba senang through because you stopped the programme for review. borraabone. Bomme ke batho ba ba nang le dikgwebo Note that we have about 290 projects then, and we are tse di kwa tlase, ke raya tse di tshwanang le dimausu hoping more applications could have been submitted by le go rekisa airtime. Minister, dithuso tse o buang ka now. tsone mo Pusong tse o reng go thusiwa bomme kwa You talked to harmonising policies, and the requirements CEDA le NDB, ke tse di duelwang. Dithuso tsa gago by CEDA that have been made much simpler and ease Minister, re raya grants tse di ntseng di fiwa bomme. for people to access funding. I seem to have a problem Minister, ka o itse gore bomme ke batho ba dikgwebo Honourable Minister, I am not so sure if you are aware tse potlana, go pala eng gore o ba kopele bonnyennyane that in my constituency or district at large, loans attached jo gore ba thusege bogolo jang o lebeletse bolwetse jwa to a project are mainly related to farming as to small COVID, ka gore ba amegile ba le bantsi? Ke a leboga stock and cattle farming. We have today, an issue that Mr Speaker. remains unresolved by the Ministry of Agriculture and Ministry of Trade; the issue of ranch ecology which at MS MOKGETHI: Thank you Mr Speaker and thank the moment we have many projects that are not being you Honourable Monnakgotla. Let me acknowledge that financed because people cannot simply afford to pay the bomme ba iphitlhela ba dira dikgwebo tse di kwa tlase. consultants to perform this ranch ecology requirement Boammaaruri ke gore, re ba bona mo informal sector. e e tlhokwang ke CEDA. Are you saying now Minister, They are over represented in the informal sector. So, I considering that we are saying women are the most do take note that these women economic programme economically disadvantaged beings in this country, how under the Gender Affairs Department come in the form are you going to facilitate my district or my constituency of a grant. Jaaka ke ne ke bua, programme eo le tsotlhe Honourable Minister, in terms of assisting women in tse di bidiwang gotwe empowerment programmes, they this issue ya ranch ecology for them to access funding? are still currently under review. E tlaare di se na go I thank you. sekasekwa, ke gone re tlaa bonang gore a di ya go tla in the form of a grant kana e tlaabo e le tse o buang ka MS MOKGETHI: Thank you Mr Speaker. Let tsone jaaka o nankola CEDA le NDB. O adima madi a me explain what the function of the Gender Affairs o tshwanetseng o a buse. Ke lemoga ntlha e o e buang. Department is. The Gender Affairs Department under All these economic empowerment programmes di ya go the Gender and Development Policy…

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MR THIITE: I am aware of the mandate and what ke dikhansele; la Poverty Alleviation, la ditena, about Gender Affairs stands for. Will you please stick to 98 per cent ya bomme kwa kgaolong ya Ghanzi South the question? You talked about simplified CEDA le Ghanzi North, ke bone ba semeletseng moo ba itaya requirements, but I am showcasing here… ditena, ba leka go ikitsha kwa morago. A nako ga e a tla gore gongwe o kopane le bo Rre Molale ba tsholetse MS MOKGETHI: I am in the process of answering ditlhako go bonwe gore bomme ba ba itekang ka tsela that question Honourable Thiite, and I am just laying e e ntseng jaana, ba ka thusiwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang the background; what does the policy say. The most rather than gore ba bo ba kgaolwa metlhana ke ditena important function of the policy is for us to ensure le dimente tse ba berekang mo go tsone, go tswa foo ba gender mainstreaming, which means that we have to bo ba ya go nna dikoa ba bo ba tlhokafala ba ntse jalo look across all sectors, all ministries to ensure that there Mr Speaker? is effective gender mainstreaming. I have indicated that our ministry under the Gender Affairs Department, is Ya bofelo, Honourable Minister, a ga o bone gore gape le not necessarily an implementing department. We are Ministry of Trade o leke go kopana le bone le dikhansele; not on the implementation side. What has actually ke gore nako e nngwe o fitlhela e le gore ditiro tsa lona happened under this Women Economic Programme, we di gasagasitswe ka ministries tse di farologaneng. Jaaka have veered off our mandate which was to coordinate gongwe o bua o re there will be harmonisation, a ko o the overall gender machinery and to ensure gender leke go kopana le Ministry of Trade gore dikgang tse di mainstreaming. We have moved away from that, and tlang e le tsa bomme, e le tsa batho ba totatota go bonwe we actually went and veered into the implementation gore ba kwa morago, a go diragadiwe maikano a le neng side, of which I have explained that the ministry does le a bua le a kopa mo Social Democratic Programme not necessarily have the implementation capacity. I have (SDP) ya Botswana National Front (BNF) a Affirmative explained the constraints that we have; the institutional Action gore le leke ka bojotlhe gore batho ba ba thusiwe, capacity to implement. We do not necessarily have the le se ka la ba konkometsa. human and the financial resources and capability to monitor and evaluate the programme, and hence why Kwa bofelong, kana batho ba ba kopa lefatshe gore I am talking about programmes such as the CEDA dikgwebo tsa bone di dirwe gone foo, mme ba bangwe programme and National Development Bank (NDB) and go tsaya land boards lebaka le le leele bogolo jang thata why I am talking to you about the review process which mo dikgaolong tsa rona tsa tennyanateng gore batho ba is still under way, and why a subcommittee was formed; bewe ba thusiwe, the next thing opportunity e a ba feta. so that we can have all the empowerment programmes, Tsholetsa ditlhako Minister; araba. including the Women Economic Empowerment MS MOKGETHI: Ke tlaa araba Honourable Programme. It is going to be one of them, precisely Motsamai, ke letletse pele gore Speaker a mphe go so that we can ensure that women are economically ahead. Mma ke simolole fela ka gore ke lebogetse empowered. Unfortunately… dikakgelo tsa gago. Ke tsaya gore ke dikakgelo ka fa MR THIITE: Procedure, Mr Speaker. o neng o bua ka teng, ka programmes di tshwana le brick-making mo Ghanzi South le Ghanzi North, o bo o MS MOKGETHI: Let me just indicate Mr Speaker, bua gore these programmes are scattered around many that the projects are still been monitored by the ministry ministries. O umakile le ba Ministry of Investment, under the Gender Affairs Department. You talked about Trade and Industry. Ke boammaaruri se o se buang, and farming. Your constituency is mostly into farming; in ke one mabaka a re a dirisang go bua gore programmes the Ghanzi area, we had people who had applied for tse are scattered across various ministries. Ke fela jaaka tents, livestock, butcheries and so on and so forth. There o ne o bua o re maikaelelo a rona gompieno jaana ke to were a diverse number of things that people in your harmonise programmes tse tsotlhe. Tota o opile kgomo constituency had applied for. I thank you Mr Speaker. lenaka Honourable Motsamai.

MR MOTSAMAI: Supplementary. Mr Speaker, ke Re na le Ministry for Presidential Affairs, o e leng gore ne ke re Tona a mphitise fa, a mme dilo tse o di buang go na le programmes tse mo nakong e di santseng di Tona, ga o bone go le botlhokwa le mo dikgannyeng bereka ka go inola batho mo lehumeng, segolobogolo tse dingwe tse di amang bomme fa ke go isa kwa batho ba dikgaolo di tshwana le Ghanzi South le Ghanzi lenaneong lengwe that is coordinated kana le lebeletswe North, le mananeo a mangwe a a welang ka fa tlase ga

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Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development. (ii) Mr Speaker, I fully appreciate that expanding Programmes tsone tseo di santse di tsweletse mme Wi-Fi connectivity will immensely help Remote ke fela jaaka o ne o bua, o ne o bua boammaaruri mo Area Settlements to benefit from leveraging the dikgannyeng tse o neng o di bua. Ba go utlwile, ba Fourth Industrial Revolution and the knowledge- reeditse bone ba ministries tse di farologaneng, ba ke ba based economy. The new technologies will help nankotseng gore le bone ba wela under the Cabinet Sub- the communities in Remote Area Settlements to Committee. Ba go reeditse, le bone ba tlaa tsaya dikgang perform socioeconomic activities. As espoused tse o di buang ka tlhwaafalo. Ke lebogile Mr Speaker. in our National ICT Policy, we still remain committed to ensure that Botswana is “an active POLICY/PROGRAMME ON EXPANDING participant in the global information society and WI-FI CONNECTIVITY TO REMOTE AREA a nation that effectively uses ICT as a catalyst for SETTLEMENTS continuous social, economic, cultural and political MR T. B. LUCAS (BOBONONG): asked the Minister transformation.” Our policies and strategies which of Transport and Communications to state if there is a provide key initiatives essential to achieving the policy/programme on expanding Wi-Fi connectivity to national development goals, complement and Remote Area Settlements and if so: build upon Vision 2036. We are ready to assist our people to take advantage of the Fourth Industrial (i) which settlements have benefited from such; Revolution and indigenous knowledge to innovate (ii) does the Minister appreciate that expanding Wi-Fi better ways to automate manual activities, transact Connectivity to Remote Area Settlements would business, socialise and govern each other. Our help such settlements to benefit from the Fourth policies and strategies are structured to respond to Industrial Revolution and the knowledge-based these emerging trends in the ICT sector. economy; and (iii) Mr Speaker, the four main policy instruments (iii) how his ministry plans to connect Remote Area namely Maitlamo Policy, National Broadband Dwellers to knowledge-based economy and the strategy, the e-Government strategy and the Fourth Industrial Revolution. SmartBots strategy all seek to complement one another in connecting communities, including the MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND Remote Area Dwellers. My ministry has set itself COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Thank a target to provide Wi-Fi connectivity to at least you Mr Speaker. My ministry has a clear roadmap of 399 villages by 2023. Government through the availing connectivity to all Batswana, regardless of the geographic location and socioeconomic status. The Smart Botswana initiative has decided to fast track blueprint of how the rollout of services will be done is the provision of Wi-Fi connectivity to at least 200 well spelt out in various policy documents such as the of these 399 villages in the next 12 months. The National Information and communications technology project to fast track Wi-Fi connectivity will be (ICT) Policy, (commonly known as Maitlamo), the done in three phases as follows; Phase 1 and 2 will Digital Transformation Strategy or SmartBots and the commence at the beginning of the financial year National Broadband Strategy. The implementation of 2021/2022 and will be completed this year; Phase these policies and strategies is currently ongoing. 3 whose focus is to connect Wi-Fi to more than 50 Remote Area Settlements across the length (i) Mr Speaker, I am not aware of any of the Remote and breadth of the country will begin and end in Area Settlements that have been provided with Wi- financial year 2022/2023. So in essence that is at Fi service. Our programme for Wi-Fi connectivity the heart of the question, that in the next financial in Botswana has so far been focused on major year we will be achieving what is asked. locations and not Remote Area Settlements. In the last seven months, my ministry through Botswana Our urgent need to connect our communities has Fibre Networks (BoFinet) has provided Wi-Fi been motivated by the need to empower and assist connectivity to 31 locations across the country. communities to become more economically, socially These locations comprise mainly major villages and culturally self-sufficient. It is very clear that this end and towns which have a substantial level of can only be achieved through enhancing the electronic socioeconomic activity and a few remote areas. connection of all our citizens and communities to the

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mainstream of social, economic and cultural life of Robelela, ga go na Wi-Fi gone koo, mme batho bao Botswana and beyond. We are also aware that this calls ba solofelwa gore le bone ba tsene mo ditlhabololong for us to create conditions whereby communities in tsa lefatshe la Botswana. Ba tsena jang ba se mo Wi-Fi rural areas are no longer considered apart or remote, mme gotwe go dirisiwa Fourth Industrial Revolution? and where all citizens, regardless of age, geography, can Ke a leboga. equally benefit from access to important information MR SEGOKGO: Ke a leboga Honourable Lucas. Mo and services that improve their everyday lives. And this potsong ya gago ya ntlha gore go nne le thulaganyo ya Mr Speaker, my ministry has and continues to do under special packages tse di itebagantseng le mafelo a re a the challenging economic conditions. tleng re re jaaka o bua o re tennyanateng, ke a dumela, mme ke tle ke leke go tlhalosa, sengwe se ke neng ke My ministry is working with the Botswana Innovation leka go se tlhalosa mo karabong ya me ke gore, re lebile Hub to use local talent to develop applications and gore mo ngwageng o o tlang fa ke bua ka phase 3 ya systems to implement our e-Government programmes. go fefosa lenaneo la gore re goroge kwa mafelong ano, I thank you Mr Speaker. re tlaabo re itebagantse bogolo jang le these remote area settlements. Kana selo santlha se se tlhokafalang MR LUCAS: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. ke gore mafaratlhatlha a ditlhaeletsanyo a bo a gorogile Kana Honourable Minister, dikgaolo tse di bidiwang kwa metseng eo. Fa a sena go goroga ke gone re ka gotwe ke tsa kwa tennyanateng kgotsa tse Honourable simololang go tsenya packages tse o buang ka tsone, Monnakgotla a di bitsang settlements, clearly di saletse Wi-Fi e o buang ka yone ke gone e ka tsenang. kwa morago mo ditlhabololong tse dintsi go balelwa tsa ditsela, dipatela le tse dingwe. Jaanong re utlwa gore Ke eng re ne re sa kgona gore gongwe re bo re e tsentse go na le itsholelo e ntšha e e based mo dikitsong, e e mono ngwaga? Bongwe jwa bothata jo botona ke gore, tsamaisiwang ke revolution e e buiwang ya bone. Kana kana mafelo a re buang ka one fa gongwe motlakase le mme fa re ka se ka ra nna le mananeo a ka bomo, a a one go ne go ise go kgonege gore dithulaganyo tseo di itebagantseng le go ntsha batho ba kwa morago, ga ba wele, di nne teng. Mo ngwageng o re leka go bereka le kitla ba tswa kwa morago. A mme Minister, ga o bone ba motlakase botlhe go bona seemo sa gore re gorose gore go tshwanetse ga nna le mananeo a a faphegileng, motlakase o o tlaa re letlang go tlisa mafaratlhatlha special packages and dispensation e e itebagantseng a. Tota fa o ka kgona go lebelela lenaneo le re lekang le gore batho ba ba ba bidiwang ba settlements, ba go le dira le ka fa re fefositseng go le dira ka teng, ke tle ba kgone go akola mananeo a mafaratlhatlha a gore re fitlhelele Motswana mongwe le mongwe ka one maranyane? E le thulaganyo fela e e faphegileng ka mafaratlhatlha a. E bile re ipeetse dielo tse di fa godimo gore mo dithulaganyong tse dingwe, ba tsewa e le tota jaanong, tse re di buang re re ke tsa 4G network batho ba ba faphegileng, ba direlwa dithulaganyo tseo e e tlaabong e gokaganya mafelo. E bile e tlaabo e go tse di faphegileng. Mo go wena jaanong mo lephateng letla gore jaanong o kgone go tsena mo go yone internet la gago, ga o bone moo go tlhokafala Tona gore le ba le boranyane jo, gore o nne karolo mo itsholelong e re tseye ka tsela e e faphegileng, ba neelwe dithulaganyo buang ka yone re re ke ya Fourth Industrial Revolution. tsa maranyane tse di faphegileng? Ke Kopa go go raya ke re mo nakong e thulaganyo tsa rona di leka gore re fefoge gore re goroge ka mafaratlhatlha Sa bobedi ke gore nako e e fetileng when Tautona was a re a kgonang gore a fitlhe kwa settlements tseo. Re launching Wi-Fi mo Gaborone, mme e bile go lebega o tlaa dira bojotlhe jwa gore re dire jalo, a bo re nna le kare Wi-Fi ya lefatshe le e ganelela thata mo ditoropong packages tse di thusang batho ba mafelo a a ntseng jalo. and major villages, o ne a bua kgang ya gore go ka O badile mangwe a a kwa Bobirwa, ke gore fela ke ne kgonagala gore e re fa motho a abelwa setsha e bo e ke sa tshwara list ya metse ya kwa re yang go fitlha teng re gone foo mme e bo e bile gotwe le Wi-Fi ke eo. Ga le settlements tse re yang go fitlhang kwa teng by phase se gore gongwe kwa dikgaolong tsa tennyanateng kana 3, gongwe ke ka bo ke setse ke go tlhomamisetsa. Ke tse Honourable Monnakgotla a di bitsang settlements, tlaa tsaya nako gore ke tle kwa go wena ka go tlhomama gongwe thulaganyo eo e fefogelwe e ye teng, gore batho gore a o ntseng o a umaka le one are covered. bao ba tle ba kgone go thusega. Le bone jaanong ba tle ba kgone gore tlhabololo e re buang ka yone ka kwano Ya bofelo, jaanong o kare gongwe ke tlaabo ke lebetse ba goroge kwa go yone ka bofefo jaaka rona re kgona gore e ne e remeletse fa kae. O ne o bua lantlha o ba ba tswang mo ditoropong le metse e metona. Kwa tshwaraganya kabo ya ditsha le gone go tsenya Wi- Bobirwa Sub District re na le; Lepokole, Tshokwe, Fi. Ga ke na kgakologelo tota ya mafoko a o reng ke

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a builweng ke Tautona. Ke tlaa dira gore ke bone gore gone koo. Mo pakeng ya ngwaga o gongwe thuso e mogopolo o o buang kana kakanyo eo ke ka e bona jang, ba ka e bonang ke gore gongwe mosepele go tsena fa le Rre Mzwinila, ga ke itse gore o tlaabo a ithulagantse Hukuntsi o ka se ka wa nna bokete mo go kalo. Le fa ke kwa mafelong ao gore go tlaabo go kgonagala go ka itse gore o tlaabo o nkopa le tsone ditsela. Ke a leboga. diragala jalo, gore e re re tsenya Wi-Fi re bo re re le MR HIKUAMA: Ke a leboga Honourable Speaker. Ke setsha ke se. Go batla ke buisantse nae ka kgang eo. a leboga Tona. Tona o tlaa intshwarela, o tšhoma Sekgoa Gongwe ga ke a e wetsa sentle. se se monate thata. E bile fa se buiwa se-English Medium MR LUCAS: Nnyaa, ke e tlogelela Mma Monnakgotla jalo o fitlhela ke sa se utlwe sentle. Jaanong o tlaa o tlaa e sala morago kgang e. intshwarela fa e le gore o ka tswa o buile. Ke dumela gore o a lemoga gore dikgaolo tse di kwa tennyanateng kana MS MONNAKGOTLA: Supplementary. Thank you tse di kgakala le ditlhabololo di tlhoka ditlhaeletsanyo Mr Speaker and good afternoon. Tona kwa settlements thata. Ka gore ga go na ditsompelo, ga gona dikompone, kana kwa tennyanateng ga go na ditsela, ga go na ga go na diofise, ga go na eng, gongwe mafaratlhatlha a ditlhaeletsano go goroga kwa go tsone, le bo internet motlakase. E bile go sena ditsela jaana Tona, e bile ga jalo, gongwe di ne di ka thusa gore ba kgone go akola go na le maranyane ao. Ga go na network gotlhelele, services tse di kgakala le bone through communication. ga go na difoune, ga go na sepe. Jaanong ke go botsa gore, kana gompieno applications go yeng kwa tertiary Gape go na le lenaneo la Local Government la le kwa ditirong go batliwa online, ke eng o sa bue le ministry wa ga Rre Molale le le buang ka Affirmative maphata a mangwe gore kana kwa tennyanateng ga Action Framework. Le ke nang le tsholofelo kana ke go ise go tsenngwe maranyane, ka gore bana bale ba dumela gore gongwe le le maphata ke lenaneo le le le a sokola? Ba felela jaanong ba tlolwa ke dikole, ba sa tlhaloganyang, e bile le le itse, le bona gore ka gore ba bone le tsone ditiro. Go batliwa Wi-Fi e e leng gore kwa le nosi ba Local Government ba ka seke ba diragatse go bone ga go na sepe. Ke go botsa gore ke eng o sa gore ba atlege mo dikeletsong tsa bone go na le gore ba alert maphata a mangwe, bogolo le tsone ditiro, gore itshwaraganye le lona, go nne le tomagano fa gare ga kwa settlements ga go na sepe? Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. maphata gore service tse di tlhokiwang kwa mafelong ao, even programme e kgone go atlega. MR SEGOKGO: Ke a leboga Mma Monnakgotla. I think fa ke utlwile o ne o kaya ka letlhokego la mafelo a Ke gore le lona le bo le na le seabe mo go yone. Jaanong a kwa tennyanateng a, mme o ne o wela ka go supa gore potso ya me ke gore mafelo a, ga le akanye gore le go tlhokega mo go ba rontsha ditshono tse di tshwanang tokafatse kanamiso ya mafaratlhatlha a ditlhaeletsanyo le go ikopela kwa dikoleng. Kopo ya gago tota ke gore jaaka internet jalo? Let me give you an example; fa o ke bue le maphata a mangwe ke ba tlhalosetse seemo se. tswa kwa bo Nokaneng… Ke tsaya se o se kopang. Ke tlaa dira bojotlhe jwa gore MR SPEAKER: Honourable Hikuama, let us go ke leke gore ke nne ke tsweledise, ka gore le bone ba a itse. Ke na le tumelo ya gore tota maphata ao ba a itse. to the question. Do not give examples; the Minister Tota ke tsaya gore gongwe mo go ka thusang ka tsela understands the issues. We are running out of time. nngwe ke gore, kana, ke tlaa fa sekai ka kwa kgaolong MR HIKUAMA: Ehee. Go dira gore fa gare ga mafelo ya gago; bosheng re ne re goroga ka mafaratlhatlha, e a a kgakala go nne le towers tsa mafaratlhatlha. Fa o bile ao re ne re goroga ka one a fibre, ra ba ra dira kwa tsaya mafelo a a tshwanang le fa gare ga bo Nokaneng Hukuntsi… ke a itse gore ga ke re Hukuntsi gongwe ke le Xangwa, ga go na communication. How do we intend lefelo le o le tshwantshwanyang o re ke tennyanateng. to improve communication fa gare gore le fa dikoloi tsa Gongwe kana mafelo a re buang ka one a gaufi a batho di latlhegetse mo tseleng ba kgone go kopa thuso dikologane le kwa Hukuntsi kwa Wi-Fi re e tsentseng. kwa maphateng a a lebaneng? Le akanya gore le ka Gongwe jaaka re ntse re atamela, mme ke tlaa ipha nako tokafatsa jang seemo seo, go tokafatsa communication gore ke ye go bona gore bokgakala jo re tlhokang, le se fela? re tlhokang gore re se fitlhelele kwa go bone ba ba kwa tennyanateng, go dikologa, sekai, Hukuntsi re tlhoka MR SEGOKGO: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke arabile eng. Re ba akareditse sentle mo lenaneong le ke reng le seo kwa tshimologong, mme fa e le gore Honourable fefositse la gore re ye go fitlha gone koo, la ngwaga o Hikuama ga a nkutlwa, ke tlaa leka go gatelela dintlha o tlang. Tota se se teng fela ke gore, ke kopa gore fa le dingwe tse ke tsayang gore di tsamaelana le potso e a e ka re letla gore re wetse thulaganyo e re tlaabo re fitlhile botsang.

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Tota Honourable Lucas o ne a botsa e bile a batla go itse MR MOTSAMAI: Ke ne ke re ke fete ka kgannyana gore a ke lemoga botlhokwa jwa gore boranyane jo bo ke e e khutshwanyane. Fa o dira dilo tse le maikaelelo goroge ka mafelong a a a supileng ale le gore a ka tswela a gago a a kanakana a ke bonang a melediwa matlhe, a bao mosola le matlhokego a bone. Ke ne ke leka go mo Tona yo o laolang metlakase o a bo a le bokgakala bo supegetsa mo karabong ya me gore re na le thulaganyo kae le wena? Ke bua ke lebile dikgaolo tse di tshwanang e e tlisang mafaratlhatlha a kwa mafelong ao. Re mo le bo Kacgae gore e re fa o tsena teng o batla go tsenya thulaganyong ya gore re tlise mafaratlhatlha a koo. E mafaratlhatlha, e bo e le gore jaanong motlakase le one bile ka bo ka tlhalosa gore monongwaga maikaelalo o malala-a-laotswe. a rona ke gore re bo re dira metse e e ka nnang 200. Ya bofelo ke ya gore I appreciate gore o batla go isa Re ipeetse seelo sa gore fa re re re kwa tlase, re ye mafaratlhatlha a ditlhaeletsanyo kwa metseng. Jaaka go itaya 399 ngwaga o o tlang. Ngwaga o o tlang ke ke ntse ke tswa mo kgannyeng Kacgae, golo koo ga go gone fa re tlaabong jaanong re kgona go goroga sentle reediwe radio, ga go na phone, ga go na sepe. Se se kwa mafelong a re a supang a re re ke a remote area ka thusa le mo tseleng e ya Trans Kalahari ka gore o e settlement. Ke ne ke leka go tlhalosa gore ke eng re ne tsaya fela go ya go tsena kwa Ghanzi e le gore ga go na re ka se ka ra kgona go dira jalo monongwaga. network. Le kotsi fa e diragala, ga go na gore batho ba ka thusiwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang ka bonako. Thank Fa re sena go tsenya mafaratlhatlha ke gone jaanong re you. ka kgonang gore re bo re simolola go nna le dithulaganyo tse le di kopang tsa bo Wi-Fi le bo empowerment MR SEGOKGO: Ke a leboga Honourable Motsamai. jalojalo. Mo nakong e re santse re le mo lebelong la gore Tona Moagi o gaufi thatathata le nna. Ke sone seo re gorose mafaratlhatlha ao mo mafelong a re ntseng re neng o bona ke kgona gore ke bo ke re re dirile gore bua ka one a. ngwaga o o tlang re tlaabo re thuba lebelo thata gore re kgone go fitlhelela remote area settlements ka gore Tota e bile ke ka tlhalosa gongwe ke tsaya kgaolo ya tota sekgoreletsi se re neng re na le sone e ne e se sa North West. Re na le thulaganyo e e ntseng e tsweletse motlakase. Ke dipuisanyo tse di tswelelang ka dinako ka fa tlase ga regulator yo wa mafaratlhatlha a. Re dirile tsotlhe. dikgaolo tsa Kweneng le Kgalagadi jalo mme e bile re setse re le mo dithulaganyong tsa gore re dire kgaolo ya O itse gore le ene o na le dithulaganyo tsa go tsenya North West. Tota re ntse re tsamaya jalo gore e re fa re motlakase wa marang a letsatsi jalojalo. Ke fa o re dira lefelo, re le dire re le wetse. thusang teng. Re lebeletse ditlhaelo tse re di bonang mo metseng e re batlang go ya go goroga kwa go yone, Mma ke tlhalose ka e o neng o bua ka yone ya go tsamaya bogolo jang ya motlakase. Re tsenya dikopo tseo tsa re tsenya towers fa gare ga metse. Ke re mo thulaganong gore a re kgontshe gore re fitlhe gone koo. e ke buang ka yone e jaaka re tlaabo re dira North West mo ngwageng o o tlang, ke tse re di lebileng. Re lebile Le go feta foo, tota re tshwaragane le Tona Molale, Tona thata gore re fetise mafaratlhatlha a mme re nne le ka fa Molao, Tona Dikoloti le Tona Letsholathebe ka gore fa re kgonang gore re nne le coverage e e boteng gore go se re goroga mo motseng mo le dielo tse re di beileng, re ka ga nna le gone fa mafelo a a a tlaabong a tlhaela teng. leka gore Matona ba ka gore ba tlisa ditirelo tse dintsi Se se tona ke gore re ipeetse seelo sa gore re goroga koo mo metseng jaana, re bo re tlhomamisa gore re ba gore mafaratlhatlha a e nne a 4G a a go letlang go dira tlogelela mafaratlhatlha a a ba kgontshang botlhe gore tse dintsi mo teng ga mafaratlhatlha ao a internet. ditirelo tsa bone ba kgone gore ba di diragatse. Ke sone O ne o botsa tse dintsi mme ke ne ke sa tshwara pena se lenaneo le le se dirang. go kwala. Ke ithaya ke re ke arabile dipotso tsa gago Se sengwe o ne wa ama tsela e ya Trans Kalahari motlotlegi. Ke a leboga. Corridor. Tsela e e botlhokwa thata e bile fa re itseng MR MOTSAMAI: Supplementary. Tanki Mr Speaker. gore go na le tlhaelo ya gore o bo o ka kgona go tshwara Tona, o araba ka botswerere, gape fela ka fa ke go itseng network, ke sengwe se re se lebileng e bile re se fefogela ka teng, o mongwe wa Matona that performs botoka. Fa ka lebaka la gore se ama le ditumalano tsa rona tse di o tshwaelwa go ne go ka twe 45/100. amang mafatshe a mangwe gore ba tlhoka gore fa go tsamaisiwa dithoto gone mo tseleng eo, e bo ka dinako HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… tsotlhe re na le ditlhaeletsanyo tseo.

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O kaile kgaolo ya Kacgae, o e tlhalositse, ke go utlwile ba Department of Information Technology (DIT), ke gore ga go na radios le mafaratlhatlha. Ke tlaa itirela solofela gore setšhaba ke sone se tlaabong se jewa ke mokwalo gore ke tle ke tlhomame e bile ke tlhome bodutu fa Mapalamente ba ile go tsweledisa tiro kwa matlho a me mo go yone go bona gore re ba thusa jang dikgaolong, mme re tlaa fitlha teng gore re ba thuse. Ke ka mafaratlhatlha ao. Ke a leboga. a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Member. BOTSWANA COMMUNICATIONS REGULATORY AUTHORITY (BOCRA) 2020 Order! Order! Honourable Members. That is where ANNUAL REPORT we end with questions. As you know, in terms of our agreement, the afternoon part of this day is devoted (Minister of Transport and Communications) firstly to Government Business. As we go for lunch, when we come back, we will deal with Tabling of LOCAL ENTERPRISE AUTHORITY (LEA) ANNUAL REPORT, 2019/2020 Papers and then proceed straightaway todeal with the Second Reading of the Income Tax Bill. I will look at (Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry) the Standing Orders, if we should finish that in time, we might get back to your questions. Honourable Members, BOTSWANA BUREAU OF STANDARDS (BOBS) let us adjourn and try to be back at 2:00 p.m. ANNUAL REPORT, 2019/2020 (Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry) PROCEEDINGS SUSPENDED AT 1:05 P.M. FOR APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR BUSINESS MOTION PROCEEDINGS RESUMED AT 2:00 P.M. ...Silence…

MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members, LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): let us resume our meeting with tabling of papers. Hello Mr Speaker. TABLING OF PAPERS MR SPEAKER: The floor is yours.

The following Papers were tabled: MR TSOGWANE: Sorry Mr Speaker, I am not aware I am taking the floor. BOTSWANA POST 2019/2020 INTEGRATED MR SPEAKER: The Business Motion. ANNUAL REPORT MR TSOGWANE: Oh! Business Motion! They did not (Minister of Transport and Communications) present the Business Motion to me today Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! I understand the Let me talk to the Clerk. Minister of Transport and Communications has yet HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... another paper to table. MR TSOGWANE: Le itaya Speaker tsebe ka koo. MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND Mr Speaker, the Clerk is trying to find the Motion and COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Thank forward it to me. Thank you Mr Speaker. you Mr Speaker. Ke kopa motsotswana fela gongwe ke tlaabo ke dule mo go se o neng o kopa gore ke se MR SPEAKER: Okay, we will provide time later. dire. Mr Speaker, Palamente e sale e kopane go simolola Order! Order! Honourable Members, let us move on to ka Tlhakole ka maranyane a re a bitsang re re virtual the Second Reading of the Income Tax Bill. meeting. Ke solofela gore Palamente e tlaabo e ya go INCOME TAX (AMENDMENT) BILL, ikhutsa kamoso, ke na le tsholofelo ya gore re tlaabo re 2021 (NO. 13 OF 2021) weditse tiro ya Palamente ka jone boranyane jo. Ka tsela Second Reading e e ntseng jalo, ke eletsa go tseya sebaka se ke leboge bodiredi jwa lephata la me jo bo kgontshitseng gore (Resumed Debate) Palamente e wetse tema e e neng e itshegetse. Ke kope MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members! jalo mo go bone gore, ba se ka ba ngongorega ba re ba The debate on this Bill is resuming, when the House utlwa lentswe la me thata fa ke bona mathata, ke buisana adjourned yesterday, Honourable Motsamai was on the le bone ka mathata ke re baakanyang. Ke a le leboga floor debating and he is left with 10 minutes 13 seconds.

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MR MOTSAMAI (GHANZI SOUTH): Ke a leboga a dikoloi, ke madi a a yang kwa ditlhabololong, mme Mr Speaker. Mafoko a ke letseng ke a bua maabane Mr batho ba dikgaolo tsa me, madi ao ga a ba solegele Speaker, a ne a sa mphologa, e ne e le mafoko a ke a molemo ka sepe ka gore fa e le gore koloi e kgethelwa buang, ke itekanetse sentle ka e bile le fa gongwe bangwe ka gore e tsamaya mo tseleng, e senya tsela, le raya ba tle ba akanye ka tsela epe, ke motho yo ke nnang ke tsela e le kae? Kana go kgethisediwa batho motlhaba le sober, ga ke nwe, ga ke goge. Jaanong Mr Speaker, fela o gongwe go nang le seporonyana fa o ka reng go ke tlhamalale mo kgannyeng ya gore ke dumalana ne go gogwa mogoma teng. E le gore ba bangwe fa le Goromente o o kgethisang batho go na le tshwaro ba atlholwa jalo, ba atlholelwa dikontere, rona fa re ya madi sentle, e seng madi a tsewa a tsenngwa mo kgethela dikoloi, re kgethela sone seporonyana se e leng diphatlheng tse di dutlang. Ke gone fa re farologanang gore ke ditsela tse di maswe. Ke letse ke bua ka kgang teng thatathata Mr Speaker, ka gore kana lekgetho go ya kwa Charles Hill, e ke tlaa kopang gore Palamente e tewa go phutha madi, o boa gape o fetlha itsholelo o e se ka ya fela, Minister wa Infrastructure a ise a nkarabe busetsa kwa bathong. Jaanong fa go phuthiwa lekgetho, gore 3 million wa diofisi tsa finance kwa Charles Hill o le phuthelwa batho ba le babedi kana a le mongwefela, ile kae. E kile ya re nako e nngwe ke bua le ene, ka ke foo re a farologana jaaka re farologanye jaana Mr motho yo ke mo tlotlang thata, le ene ke tsaya gore o a Speaker. Ke sone fela se ke se buang thatathata. ntlotla, o tlaabo a mphetogela mo malatsing, mme ke motho yo o ratang go tshegatshega a re ke a tshameka. Ke bua jaana Mr Speaker, ke gatelela kgang ya maabane Ke a bo ke sa tshameke Mr Speaker, ke batla 3 million o ke e bua ka ditlhabololo tsa Greater Gaborone, gore go ye go dirwa tsela e e yang kwa diofising tsa Charles kana lekgetho fa re le phutha, re le phuthela ditsela, Hill. dikole, dipatela. Jaanong mpolelele gore nna gompieno, boipelo jo ke ka ipelang ka jone jwa plan e e sa tswang go Mr Speaker, ke bua ka kgang ya lekgetho, o tsena tswa e go neng go kgethisiwa batho, ke ka ipela ka eng kwa metseng e metona e e tshwanang le bo Ncojane, kwa kgaolong ya Ghanzi South? Fa o tsaya Vocational Kalkfontein, Kole, Makunda le Karakubis, o fitlhela Training Centre (VTC) ya Ghanzi South e setsha sa ditlamelo di saletse kwa morago. Ga gona le fa e le yone se leng kwa Charles Hill, go padile gatwe madi ga melemo, dipilisi tsa bo high blood, dipilisi tse o ka di a yo. Madi a ile kae? Madi a jelwe. Fa o tsaya kgang ya akanyang tsa malwetse a a tlhagogang nako le nako. sepatela kwa Charles Hill, ga gona le fa e le sepatela, Lekgetho le raya gore re kgethe, re reke dilo tse, mme mme sepatela se mo Trans Kalahari highway road, mme fa e le gore re a kgetha, dilo tse di bonala golo go le kwa go fetang bontsintsi jwa batho go sena, le batswa- gongwe fela, go raya rona ga re mo Botswana. Go na ditšhabeng ba tlaa re tshega go sena fa e reng fa ba lwala le malome mongwe kwa kgaolong ya me jaana, yo ba tsena teng Mr Speaker. Ke gone fa mathata a me a ke mo ratang thata, o rata go rera a bua a re, ga re mo leng gone foo Mr Speaker. Botswana, go na le ba ba leng mo go ene, rona re kwa bofelelong, kwa khoneng ya bofelo e e leng gore ga re Fa o tsaya ditsela tsa bo East/West Hanahai, Bere- balelwe mo Botswana. Ke dumalana le ene fela thata fa Kagcae, lekgetho le tshwanetse gore le ame ditsela, ke lebile yone concept e Goromente a e dirisang go aba e le gore go tsewa madi gore go ye go dirwa ditsela, makgetho ka yone Mr Speaker. batho ba tlhabologe. Fa o tsaya batho ba kwa bo Bere- Kagcae, Ranyane le Xade ba mo mpaananeng, ba Mr Speaker, fa o tsena mo Kalkfontein, ke motse o mo sebakatsatsing, ga gona sepe se ba ka ipelang ka motona, o o mo tseleng, o mo Trans Kalahari road, mme sone ba re nnyaa, re a kgetha, lekgetho la rona le a re motse o Mr Speaker, o na le mother clinic. Mother clinic boela. Ditlhabololo tse di neng di tshwanetse gore di ya teng kana go tewa dikagonyana fela, go mosukenyana, bo di ka dirwa mo mafelong ao, di akolwa ke mafelo go kgotlhagane, ga gona le fa e le ditsompelo. Mo e leng a a dikologileng Gaborone Mr Speaker. Sone se fa gore lekgetho e ka bo e re le phuthiwa jaana, le ya go Goromente a ka fetola mindset le scope tsa go lebelelwa agela batho ba Tsootsha clinic ya maemo a a maleba, a a siameng Mr Speaker. Fa o tsena kwa Chobokwane le ka fa distribution ya ditlhabololo e dirwang ka teng, gone, o ya go fitlhela ngwana a kalelwa mo storeroom nnyaa, ke tlaa dumalana le bone fela letsatsi le penne se go bewang Tsabana mo go sone. Motho o kentelwa Mr Speaker. mo storeroom gotwe pota ka fa o tseye mokento, re tlaa Ke kile ka makatsa mapodise nako e nngwe re le mo busa lebati. Go tshwanetse ga nna le rooms totatota tse meeting, ke ba itsise gore kana le tsaya madi a gore batho go tseelwang mokento teng, where people test gore ba ga ba dirise ditsela sentle, a go sa ipanta le a makgetho tseye mokento.

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Mr Speaker, fa ke bua ka kgang ya lekgetho, dilo tse lekgetho, ke gana tlhakatlhakano e. Jaaka o tsietsegile o di tshwanetse tsa solegela batho botlhe molemo. Fa o sa itse gore gatwe go diragala eng mo ministry wa gago bua ka farmers tsa kgaolo ya Ghanzi le mananeo a ga Mme Manake. Dilo tse, ke tsone tse ke di ganang. Ke Goromente a a tshwanang le Livestock Management gana gore di tsamaye ka tsela e di tsamayang ka yone. and Infrastructure Development (LIMID), a beile A batho ba botlhe ba solegelwe ke lekgetho molemo. banana le bomme ka fa mosing. Batho ba re tshwanetse A phutho ya madi e solegele batho botlhe molemo Mr re bone gore re ba ntsha kwa morago ka tsela e e ntseng Speaker. Ga re ka ke ra didimala, e bile ga ke na go jang. Gompieno jaana fa o raya ba LIMID o re, “ke kgala go bua ka dikgang tse ke akareditse lefatshe lotlhe bone polase e nnyennyane ke le mme kana monana, la Botswana. Ke lebile ka fa Batswana ba tseelwang ke kopa ke tseye madi a go ya go epa,” gatwe LIMID lekgetho ka teng, le bo le sa dirisiwe sentle. A batho ba does not cover lenaneo leo. Lenaneo should be covered ba sa diriseng madi a ga Goromente sentle, ba tseelwe by lekgetho e seng mokwalo. Mokwalo ke mokwalo dikgato. A batho ba tlhatlhelwe, ba ithole marapo. Kante Puso ya lona ke ya mofuta mang Mr Speaker, e e leng fela, mme madi fa a le teng, ke one a a ka dirang gore o gore Minister fa a sentse mo Agriculture, o a ntshiwa duelelwe se se kwadilweng. Jaanong madi a jelwe. Ke o isiwa kwa Tourism? Fa a ya go senya kwa Tourism, buile ka projects tsa maloba di abiwa. Ke ne ka tladiwa o isiwa kwa Metsing. Fa a ya go senya kwa Metsing, ke maBotswana Democratic Party (BDP) ba ba neng ba o isiwa kwa lephateng le sele. You are recycling. Why lela. Rre Rakgare kwa Mogoditshane a bua ka toilets are you recycling? Ga le na batho? Ke eng bogolo le tsa P2 million. Rre Motaosane a supa tshenyo ya madi e sa tswele kwa ntle and appoint batho ba ba kwa ntle? nnang ka teng. Fa le… Ke sone se Motsamai a se ganang ka thulaganyo ya go HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa clarification Mr kgethisa batho mo go sokameng, mo go senang tshwaro. Speaker. Rakgare fa go bonwa gore…

MR MOTSAMAI: …mo diatleng tse di sa tlhapang, ga MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Motsamai. go nne sentle. Sorry? MR MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): Ke a leboga Mr MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motsamai, Honourable Speaker go bo ke filwe sebaka gape, ke kgonne go tsena. Manake is asking for a clarification. I apologise especially to Deputy Speaker. Maabane o ne a mpitsa, computer e gana mme they have fixed MR MOTSAMAI: I yield Mr Speaker, a quick one. it. I apologise for that kwa go Deputy Speaker. O ne a tsere gore ga ke yo mme ke le teng, ke bonala. Fa ke ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL tswelela ka kgang e re e beilweng pele ke Tona, re ema DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MS nokeng kopo e ya makgetho e o e dirileng. Fa re bua ka MANAKE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ga ke a utlwa makgetho, we must all know gore our income, ke one a sentle gore Honourable Motsamai a re LIMID does a di gogang kwa pele, a latelwa ke meepo e e wang le not cover fa a bone eng, jang? A e bue re tle re mo e tourism jalojalo. Go a supega gore go botlhokwa go tlhalosetse botoka. Gape fa a nnetse gore madi a jelwe, bo go ntse jalo. Re tshwanetse fa re bua setlhogo se se o raya a jewa ke bomang, kae, leng? tshwanang le se, re se ka ra nna re leba nako fela ka gore e tlaa nna e le teng. Re e fitlhetse. Mapalamente a kile a MR MOTSAMAI: Ee, o feditse? A o feditse mmaetsho? nna fa, Speaker o kile a nna fa. Ga se selo se se emang, a go na le mang kana ga go na mang. Re tshwanetse re MS MANAKE: Ee rra, ke feditse. e bue ka bokete segolo jang mo dinakong tse di thata tsa MR MOTSAMAI: O mongwe wa ba ba jeleng wena COVID, re bona gore letseno ke mathata. Ditlhabololo di a go ema, mme yone ga re a tshwanela gore e re re e le ministry wa gago. O mongwe wa ba ba a jeleng. bua, e bo e le gore we are imposing makgetho a a yang Jaanong fa ke tswelela, farmers ba tla kwa go nna letsatsi go paledisa Batswana le lefatshe. Re tshwanetse re lebe le letsatsi. Bana ba ba neetsweng dipolase tsa small gore ke makgetho a a baakantsweng. Re na le Bill e e stock kana tsa dipodi, ba supa gore LIMID e ba bolelela tlang go baakanya some of the sections and Clauses tse gore they are not covered gore ba ka epelwa didiba ka e leng gore previously, re ne re kile ra bua ka tsone. LIMID. Ga o itse? Fa e le gore ga o itse Mme Manake, ke a go bolelela, ga ke go botse. O tlaa tlhalosa ka nako Fa ke bua ka ya individual tax, re lebeletse matshelo gore ya gago. Fa e le gore ga o itse, ke yone tlhakatlhakano dilo di oketsegile thata. Mr Speaker, ka fa e dirilweng ka e re e bonang mo kgannyeng e. Fa o bona ke gana teng, go na le seelo se ba tshwanetseng go simolola ka

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sone fa go kgethisiwa. E ne e le selelo sa khuranyo ya re ntse re itse gore we are a small country mo e leng meno, bangwe ba sa itse gore ba tlaa ya go leba kae. gore we do not need more benchmarking time and again Fa o lebelela kwa Section 59, individuals le dividends losing money, P2 million plus or P2.5. Dikompone ke ka fa di dirilweng ka teng, go ntse go na le bothata jo tse, how do we make measures in place tse e leng gore bo tona mo dikomponeng. Batho ba ba ntseng ba dira re ka dira jalo? lekgetho sentle, bontsi o fitlhela e le rona le bodiredi jwa Puso. Mo dikomponeng tse di ikemetseng go na Gape re ka dirisa Internship officers, those are graduates, le bothata Honourable Speaker le Honourable Minister ba e leng gore fa e le gore ke kwa Maun kwa go nang of Finance. Go tshwanetse ga tlhodumelwa gore go na le bogwebi jwa bojanala jo bontsi le difofane tse di le batho ba e leng gore through their companies, ga ba ntsi, kana kwa Kasane, Ghanzi, go ka nna le diofisi, not kgethe. Ba bangwe time and again declare fa ba dira necessarily gore BURS ba ye go dira diofisi koo. Mo their financials gore kompone ga e a bona sepe gore ba dikhanseleng, gope fela fa ba ka nnang le a shelter to se ka ba duela. Go na le bommantswitswidi ba ba itseng be accommodated, e bo e ka nna furnished e nna le dilo accounts thata. Fa o ka ela tlhoko Botswana Unified tsotlhe, then we must assign some officers there gore ba Revenue Service (BURS), bontsi jwa bone do not match nne ba thusa batho ka dithuto, collection le tse dingwe standard sa banna le basadi bao. You must have the best fela jalo. Golo mo go tlaa fefosa le gone go dira gore tiro ya bommantswitswidi ba accountants who can check. ya bone e tokafale Mr Speaker. If re se na bone, re ya go fitlhela re latlhegelwa ke madi Fa ke ntse ke tsweletse ke lebelela this thing ya ka banna ba dikompone tseo. Ba dira maranyane a bone makgetho, tota go mo maruding a rona gore le mororo a dikitso to downscale some dividends le profits tse ba re tlhaloganya lekgetho, gape re thusa Tona gore le ka tshwanetseng go duela Puso ka tsone. tsamaisiwa jang, gape re bona gore tota ga go na motho Fa e le e ya collection ya Puso, ke a bona gore something yo o sa kgetheng, eo ke tshwanetse gore ke e tlhamaletse. has been done, e bile go a go tswelelwa go dirwa. Fa o lebelela ka Value Added Tax (VAT) le tse dingwe Batlotlegi Mapalamente ba buile ka bontsi ba lemotsha jalo, mongwe le mongwe o a kgetha. Go na le babereki Puso le Minister gore le mororo go ntse jalo, re thusa le dikompone tse di dirang madi ba ba kgethang, so gore go letle fa kae, go dirwe eng, go se ka ga tlogelwa batho bontsi taxation ya bone is doubled, ka gore fa o ya fale. A re itseng gore go na le mafatshe that depend on go reka; fa re bua ka VAT, ke lekgetho. Le ene yo e leng this revenue collection. Maphata a teng a tokafaditse gore ga a kgethe, gongwe ga a na an income ya P48,000 jaaka la South Africa le Sweden. Ba tokafaditse systems plus annually, le ene o a kgetha ka go reka commodities. le bokgethisi jwa bone jo e leng gore le fa motho a na So, mongwe le mongwe at the end of the day, o a kgetha. le matlo a le five a a rentisa, ga a salele gope. Lephata Re tshwanetse gore e re re lebelela dilo tseo gore madi le, a go nne le thuto jaaka bangwe ba buile. A go nne one ao, ka gore ke tlhalositse gore ke one a mantsi go le evaluation and monitoring ya gore go nne le officers feta a mengwe metswedi, re bo re bona gore a mme fa strictly tse di lebaneng. Re tle re kgone go phutha ka gore re ntse re rotloetsa batho ka le rona re ya go rotloetsa mafatshe a mangwe a tshela fela, ga a na ditswammung batho ba rona kwa dikgaolong, mme madi ao, a mme le le bojanala. Mafatshe a mangwe a tshela ka metsi jaaka one value for money, in turn; kana ke one a re a dirisang Lesotho. Ba rekisa metsi le go phutha makgetho, mme mo ditlhabololong, a nna teng. So ke gone fa re nnang ba kgona go itsamaisa. Le rona a re ipeeng mo seemong seo gore in the future, re bo re itse gore Government le bothata, e bo e kete gongwe re a lwa Mr Speaker, re does not lose a lot of money. A mangwe re a bona a sa lwe, e le go lela. Re re nnyaa mme a e re a ntse jaana, tswela kwa ntle without being taxed. ka gore lefatshe le la Botswana, sengwe le sengwe ke equal distribution, jaaka re bona mines di le kwa Boteti Fa ke tswelela Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, mme madi a tlhabolola kwa Gaborone, Nata le Kasane, re tshwanetse re emise golo mo e leng gore gantsi re e re bo re a bona e le gore jaanong go tswa foo ka gore re tle re re benchmarking, especially ga bodiredi jwa Puso, kgethile le dikompone di kgethile, equal distribution a bo BURS, ba re go na le benchmarking. Dilo tse dingwe re e boneng, batho ba a nwa metsi jaaka ba ne ba bua. e le bana ba Botswana ba itse gore gompieno jaana go Mongwe o kile a nthaya a re kwa ga gagwe ditlhabololo diragala eng mo lefatsheng le, a go ka bo go na le fa go tse o ka di bonang, o tlaa fitlhela go kwadilwe ‘se tshube dutlang teng, fa kae, mme rona re bo re dira budgeting, naga,’ ke tsone ditlhabololo. Ka mo raya ka re, nnyaa re re re tlaa dira some benchmarking missions, mme mme le kwa ga me…

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LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): On maranyaneng a lefatshe la Botswana, se nna se se tona a point of procedure. Sorry Honourable Majaga, tota ke mo e leng gore nnyaa, go lebega o kare rona jaanong ne ke e kwala fela ka tumalano e re neng re e buile le makgetho a tsentswe fela thata mo e leng gore Batswana Mr Speaker, gore once I have received the adjournment ba ya go swa, ga ba na go bona sepe. Motion, ke tlaa supa jalo. Ke ne ke itheile ka re gongwe e tlaa re o fetsa, a bo a mpitsa. Ke raya gore it is on the Batsadi, re ntse re le mo go yone ya makgetho, fa o tsaya Motion Mr Speaker. lefatshe la Botswana, ke lone le fang free medication, free primary school up to university, e bile go tlaa nna MR MAJAGA: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke santse thata Honourable Minister gore re tle re fetole. Letsatsi ke re, mongwe o kile a bua; jaaka ke bua ka makgetho le re tlaa bolelelwang gore re a duela tota, e seng maP5 gore go tshwanetse gore go tswa foo, utilisation ya a a re paletseng, le nna ke le mo teng ka le nna ke ya teng e bonale in all four corners tsa lefatshe, ke sa re kwa go tsone tsa batho ka gore ke a ipalela, ga ke ka ga go direge jalo, e le gore re a bo re lela ka re itse ke ka re ka gore ke mo Ntlong, ke bo ke aketsa batho gore gompieno jaana letseno la ditlhabololo le a tlhaela. ke re ke a ikgona. Re ya go nna le mathata a go duelela Jaanong mongwe wa tsala o kile a re kwa ga gagwe fa bana dikole tsa tertiary, le a dilo tse tsotlhe fela. Kana o tsena, o fitlhela board e le tsone ditlhabololo tsa ‘se madi a ya gone koo. Mo mafatsheng a mangwe, even tshube naga,’ jaanong ke bo ke mo raya ke re, nnyaa mme our friends in the Southern African Development le kwa go nna, boards tseo di teng tsa floods le potholes Community (SADC) region, go a duelwa, fa e le ya mo ditseleng. Dilo tse di dira gore fa re setse jaanong Sekgoa gone you invest on your medication o santse re tsena mo moweng, re bua ka madi le ditlhabololo, re o bereka jaana; go na le sephatlo se se tsamayang. bo re ka lebelela value for money gore bonnyenyane jo Jaanong dithuto di tshwanetse di ye kwa Batswaneng, e leng gore bo a bo bo bonwe and collected, gore bo tle fa gongwe re ba bolelele gore tota fela mo lefatsheng, bo re tsamaisetse lefatshe le ditlhabololo, bo tshwanetse ke rona ba re santseng re ntse jaana. Ke bona golo mo gore Honourable Speaker le Honourable Minister, e bo nako fa e ntse e tsamaya, go tlaa fetoga Mr Speaker. jaanong gone foo re bofa ditomo tota mo dikomponeng Re tlaabo re batlega madi fela a a tshwanang le bo P50 tse di a bong di filwe ditirelo gore ba itse gore madi a ke tota mo dipateleng, mo sekolong go batliwa bo P1,000, makgetho a Batswana, ba tshwanetse gore ba bo ba dira kwa tertiary bo P5,000 jaaka mafatshe a mangwe a ditiro tse ba di filweng, ba sa tshamekise madi ao. dira a re bapileng le one; a mangwe economy ya bone e botoka gona le ya rona. Jaanong dilo tse e a re re di Ke a tlhaloganya gore kwa Minister of Finance and bua dinako tse dingwe, re bo re di bua re le Batswana Economic Development le na le unit dedicated to see the fa gongwe re se according to the political party lines, usage of those monies, le lebeletse gore le a phutha ka re lebeletse gore gone mme go tlaa fetoga, whether ke tshokolo, a sa bonale. Fa le setse le a bone, le bo le neela bafe ba ba tlaa nnang mo Pusong, leng, mme fela madi motho le re dira tsela kana sekole ka fa, ene a bo a tla a a makgetho le individual taxation, e ya go nna e gola re dira ga gagwe, motho yoo o tshwanetse gore a otlhaiwe, lebeletse mathata a mangwe jaaka re lela ka diteemane a itse gore ke tshwanetse gore ke dire ditlhabololo tsa le bojanala jo e leng gore bo a pala. Batswana ka gore madi a ke a a tswang mo Batswaneng, ga a tswe kwa heaven. Dikgang tseo, o tshwanetse gore Fa o lebelela lekgetho, go na le ba bangwe ba e leng ka fa o neelang maphata a mangwe madi a ditlhabololo, gore, ka se se neng sa bonwa e ka nna matshosetsi mo o nne o ba tsibosa gore e re le a tsaya, le bo le itse gore matshelong a bone; jaaka bojalwa, motsoko le plastics a phuthiwa ka thata, bangwe Batswana ba sa batle go jalojalo, tota re dumalana le lekgetho le le tshwanang le duela makgetho. lone leo gore le okediwe, re kgone go sireletsa batho ba rona re le Puso, jaaka cigarettes le majalwa, gore lone le Honourable Minister, re tsaya gore fa o lebile in nne kwa godimo. Ke selo se re tshwanetseng re se tseye the region, ke ne ka leka to research, ke lebelele sentle, re bone gore go diragala eng. mafatshe otlhe, especially in the Southern Africa le a a tlhabologileng, ke lebelela seelo sa makgetho, Fa re ya kwa the agriculture sector, ke e lebaganya le gore bone ka dinako tse di thata tsa COVID-19, ba makgetho, nako e tsile Honourable Speaker le Minister tsentse percentages tse di kae go tsholetsa the value of Finance and Economic Development gore this sector, ya makgetho a bone go itepatepanya le COVID-19, ka gore le yone ke nngwe e e tlaa nnang le kgolo; le tsone ke bone re siame, re le mo seelong sa bopelotlhomogi, tsa bo tourism, go ya pele. Re lebelele, re tlhodumele sa kutlwelobotlhoko. Kana fa se setse se buiwa mo gore a batho bale le makgetho a ba tshwenetseng gore

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ba a duele, ka gore bontsi jwa bone jaanong agriculture Speaker and Honourable Minister, le tshwanetse gore le is a business and e golela pele, re bone gore re ka ba e nyalane looking at our population. Tota fa e le sengwe, direla ditsela kwa dipolaseng, re bo re ba kgethisa ka go nne le some stringent measures in place. Ka gore fa go tshwanetseng ka teng as per their business. Ke kana fa go ka se ke go dirwe jalo, re tlaa nna re bua sengwe se e leng gore we must explore those means re ka maitseo fela le ka go rapela mme re sena sepe se re lebeletse gore re godisa lekgetho la rona thatathata jaaka se phuthang, ba bangwe ba felela o kare ba a tshabiwa. bangwe ba sa tswa go bua. Re tshwanetse gore re lebelele kgang eo ka leitlho le le ntšhotšho, re bone gore o kare nako nngwe o bo o tla Fa re lebelela our Recurrent Budget and expenditure, o ema mo Palamenteng o bega gore Botswana now is even up to now, after so many years re santse re na among mafatshe a ke neng ke a bua, a e leng gore they le bothata jwa gore our expenditure e ntsi fela thata, are doing their best to collect their tax, so that Batswana thatathata e le madi a re a ntshang re reka dijo mme re na le bone ba ka kgona go nna le benefit. Le bone batho tota le lefatshe. Golo moo, a ko o go lebe Minister of Finance, kwa ba leng teng, ga e a tshwanela gore e nne morwalo madi a re a tsenyang go lema le go lemela batho vis-à- wa ministry fela le wa Botswana Unified Revenue vis the development and input, re bone gore kgang eo Service (BURS). E tshwanetse gore gongwe le gongwe re ka e baakanya jang. Ga ke ka ke ka re a programme fa re leng teng, e nne rona le bangwe ka rona ba e leng e e diragetseng for 10 years e re thusitse, gongwe re gore ba ka nna le those offices to collect tax. le mo mathateng a tshwana le one a, e emisiwa kana e fokodiwa, ka nna le gore ke ka ngala ke ngalela Ntlo e Mr Speaker, fa ke ela go wetsa ke re Honourable kana ka ithatisa batho. No! ga ke ka ke ka nna jalo ka Minister, Bill e e ne e le tshwanelo gore re e bue. Le gore Palamente a ke teng kana ga ke yo, yone e tlaa nna wena re go kope gore fa go na le dipe tse di amanang e le Palamente. Jaanong re tshwanetse go lebelela gore le makgetho nako e ntse e tsweletse, o di busetse mo mme output ya agricultural sector ka fa go ntseng go Ntlong e, whether ke November or July, di nne di tsenngwa millions, a mme ga se gore le gone fa e le gore baakanngwa ka gore ga gona ope yo o sa tlhaloganyeng go ne go fiwa batho maybe P1,000.00, just a quick and gore re mo seemong se se ntseng jang. Re ka tswa re good example, ga se gore jaanong ba fiwe bo P300.00, oketsa, re fokotsa, re baakanya kana re go thusa gore go P250.00, mme P750.00 a sale a ye kwa go dingwe tsamayatsamaya jang. ditlhabololo tse e leng gore are our basic needs ka gore Jaanong ke bo ke re se sengwe, re mapolotiki mo Ntlong golo foo ba a bo ba filwe lefatshe, ba filwe sengwe le e, both across the aisle, the Speakership, le fa o ka tsaya sengwe. Those are other ways tse re tshwanetseng re di the history re mapolotiki, mme ga re batle gore gongwe lebelele fa re bua ka makgetho. mo nakong e e tlang, e bo e nna o kare gongwe bangwe Makgetho a babereki fa o ka lebelela, the more you get, ga re bue sentle. Rona re batho ba re ikilelang, re maitseo. the more you pay. Batswana ga ba lemoge. Bone fa ba Re kopa gore le nne le re thusa Honourable Speaker utlwa gotwe motho o amogela thata, fa o utlwa ke ne ke fa re na le mathata, ga re batle the …(Inaudible)… re ke ema nokeng ba ba neng ba re thuto, ba lebelela gore Parliament. Ke ne ke santse ke raya mongwe ke re fa e motho o amogela bokae. Ga ba itse gore o duela bokae. le gore go tlaa ya go ntse jaana, gongwe bangwe re tlaa They do not know gore motho yo o na le a say fa a bona ikopela gore re se ka ra tsenngwa on the list. madi a sa dirisiwe sentle, whether you are a Member of MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Majaga. Parliament (MP), Councillor or you are just modiredi Honourable Leader of the House, move the Business wa Puso, kana mongwe fela rakgwebo, o na le a say fa Motion. madi a sa tsamaye sentle ka gore madi ale a makgetho, ke one a a bong a re thusa for those developments. Golo BUSINESS MOTION moo Batswana ba tshwanetse gore ba go rutiwe, ba bo LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): ba ka tlhaloganya gore go tlaa nna le bone ba ntse ba na Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I now have a le a say, e seng gore Goromente kana ministry fela fa ba Motion of adjournment to move. I beg to move in terms bona o kare madi ga a dirisiwe sentle. of Standing Order 28.3 that at the adjournment of the Ya bofelo Mr Speaker gore ke sutele ba bangwe; Assembly on Friday 16th April 2021, the present meeting fa o lebelela our basic needs, ke e tshwaraganya le shall be concluded, and the Assembly shall then stand ditlhabololo tse e leng gore if we do our Recurrent adjourned sine die. I move accordingly Honourable Budget, re a bo re lebeletse mo go tsone. This Honourable Speaker. I thank you.

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Question put and agreed to. E nngwe ya boraro e ke bonang gore ke nngwe ya dilo tse molawana o o ka bong o itebagantse le tsone ke go MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kgafela, on the Income tlhomamisa gore go na le lekgetho on the dividend. Ke Tax. bona e le yone nngwe ya dilo tse e leng gore you are MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND dealing with in your proposal, gore tota fela o eletsa HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (MR KGAFELA): gore go nne le increase on dividends, tax e tswa from Ke leboge Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke 7.5 per cent, o e tlhatlose e ye kwa go 10 per cent. Ke letse ke nnile le mathata a maranyane maabane, mme ke gore ka mo ke bonang ka teng bontlha bongwe o e tla o re intshwareleng. Fela ke ema fa ke re ke ema nokeng fokotsa lekgetho mme ntlha e nngwe go etla lekgetho le Tshutiso e ya Kakanyetso-molao o wa tsa makgetho, tsena mo teng. Fela gone re tlhaloganya sentle gore go o o tlang ka Tona Dr Matsheka. Ke mo utlwile sentle, matshwenedi gore Puso e felele e le liquid, e na le madi ke ne ke mo file tsebe skono fa a balolola maikaelelo a a kgonang gore e thuse Batswana ka one. a gagwe. Ke badile le one memorandum o o patileng Molao-kakanyetso o. O supa fela sentle dilo tse tharo tse E nngwe ya bofelo e ke e bonang ke ya ya Director gore ke di bonang, tse Tona a supang fa a ikaelela gore a di you are introducing Directors fees, gore fa Directors dire, a di fitlhelele. Ya ntlha ke gore a golole Batswana mo lekgethong le la Income Tax le gore tota threshold ba ntse in a board meeting go raya gore tota fela fa ba a e tlhatlose a e ise from P36, 000.00 to P48, 000.00 ka emelela foo ba tshwanetse ba duelwe. E bo e le gore ngwaga. Mo go rayang gore tota fela batho ba ba kileng moduedi wa bone o tlhomamisa gore o ketlula lekgetho ba bo ba kgetha pele ba ne ba amogela bo P3, 000.00, mo sitting payment o le neela Puso, go na le gore tota bo P3,000.00 plus, go raya gore ga ba tlhole ba kgetha. go bewe fela mo go Director gore e tlaa re fa ngwaga Go tlaa simolola go kgetha batho ba fela ba amogelang o fela a bo a itshoboka. Ke bona e le gore o ba e teletse P4, 000.00 go ya kwa godimo ka kgwedi, fa ke bala, ke pele Tona, gore e re fela fa ba emelela e bo ba duela lebelela fa fatshe ke dira dipalopalo tsa me Motsamaisa lekgetho leo. Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Kana se go raya gore tota fela fa o lebelela, se amile mongwe le mongwe. Le bone We cannot overemphasize botlhokwa jwa lekgetho. batho ba ba amogelang madi a a kwa godimo a fetang Kana the commentators ba e tle ba re ga gona sepe se ene P4, 000.00 ka kgwedi go menagane gantsi, le bone se tlhomameng gore se tlaa diragala mo botshelong ba a amega, go raya gore ba ya go simolola ba bona e le kwa ntle ga leso le lekgetho. Ke e tolokolola jaana ka gore fa go ketlolwa lekgetho mo go bone, le kwa tlase e kwadilwe ka Seesemane. Fa ke ntse ke sekaseka ke go na le le kileng ba bo ba le kgetha morago fa re sena bona e bile e le gore lekgetho bosupi jwa lone bo teng go nna re fetisa molao o. le mo Baebeleng, gore le sale le simolola kwa Egepeto Se sengwe se ke se bonang e bile e le tlhabololo, ke tsaya ka dingwaga tsa bo 3000 up to 2800 Before Christ. E gore Batswana ba tlaa se itumelela, ke go bona go na le le sesupo sa gore tota fela ga gona mmuso ope kana lekgetho le e leng gore fa ke le lebile fa mo molaong o, ketapele epe that can survive ntle le gore ba e tshelang le tsamaisana le tuelo ya rent. Gore fa o duela rent mme le bone ba a kgetha. e le gore tuelo e it is part of your business expenditure, e bo e le gore o a kgethisiwa. Fa ke gakologelwa sentle Ke lebogela ka mo o ntseng o tsamaisa ka teng Tona. o kare ke 5 per cent. Jaanong ke bona a tokafaditse gape Ke ka lone lebaka la lekgetho gore mo go se sebaka e gore rent eo mo ngwageng, threshold ya teng o tlaa e bo ke itumelela gore Tona wa ditsela le ditlhaeletsano tlhatlosa le yone gore e simolole ka P48, 000.00, e tswa e bo e le gore o tlaa dika a kgonne, gore tsela ele e kwa go P36, 000.00. Mo go raya gore tota fela gore o bo o kgetha on rent, e tshwanetse gore mo kgweding fa ke e sa bolong go re tshwenya kwa ga Mochudi e e yang e bala, e bo e le gore ke P4, 000.00 go ya kwa godimo. kwa Malotwaneng e bo e le gore jaanong e tlaa dirwa. Ke ntse ke le sebete se molangwana ka yone, ke sa itse Mo go rayang gore rents tsotlhe tse di neng di ntse di gore a madi a yone a teng kana ga a yo. Fela ke utlwile le kwa tlase, tse di neng pelepele di kgethisiwa, tse di e le gore go tlhomame gore madi ao a P30 million a neng di tsamaya mo go ma three point something, ga di teng, tsela eo e tlaa dika e dirilwe. Kana ke ka ntata sa tlhola di tlaa kgethisiwa. Ke bona e le gore ke nngwe ya makgetho gore e bo dilo tsa mofuta o di felela di ya dilo tse o kareng Tona foo o fokoditse bokete jwa diragala. lekgetho mo Batswaneng.

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Ke lebogela gape gore ka yone ntata ya makgetho bontlha bongwe jwa maitlamo a rona gore batho ba Tona, e bo Sepatela sa kwa gaetsho sa Deborah Retief hirwe. Jaanong parastatals tse le fa ke itse gore o mo Memorial Hospital se bo se tokafaditswe mo seemong ntweng ya gore you rationalise them go bona gore di se se neng se le mo go sone ngwagola fa ke ne ke se bereka ka tsela e e ntseng jang, mme fela ke re, kana etetse. La bofelo ke ya kwa go sone le one mortuary o ke ka ntata ya makgetho gore e bo di rwele morafe, di ne o sa bereke, dilo ka bontsi di ne di sa bereke. Jaanong rwele setšhaba, batho ba kgone gore ba theogele, ba nne tota fela ba tlhomamisitse gore dilo dingwe tse di neng le letseno, ba godise bana ba bone. di tlhaela o kare di gorogile, le fa ntswa dikago tsa teng tsone di tsofetse e bile di sa tlhole di kgatlhisa. Mme fela Le kwa ministry Tona, ke leboga gore mo go se sebaka re tlaa nna ka tsholofelo ya gore madi a tlaa dika a nnile ke thubile lebelo, ke ntšhafatsa dikole, college of teng, gore se tle se sutisiwe fa se leng teng, se isiwe kwa educations le dikago tsa Puso. Ke romilwe ke lona bo bagodi ba tlaa kgonang gore ba se fitlhelele, se tswe mo Tona ka tota fela e a bo e le tse di welang ka fa tlase fa thabeng. diatla tsa lona, ga mmogo le madirelo a tsa madi, jaaka o itse ke ntse ke go a rolela Tona. Kana ke ka mabaka Ke leboga gore re bo re kgona Tona gore masole a a makgetho gore diofisi tse e bo di nna teng, dikole tse rona, mapodise, badisa magolegwa, badiri ba rona ba e bo di ntšhafadiwa, refurbished, ke re tota fa re ntse re Judiciary, Baatlhodi, boMmakaseterata, ba Industrial bua ka makgetho re bo re ntse re ikgakolola gore a na le Court ga mmogo le one Mapalamente tota, e bo e le mosola go le kana ka eng. Ga ke gane Tona ga gona fa go gore tota fela ga gona nako epe e ba e tleng ba tlhaele leng perfect teng. That is why tota fela go le botlhokwa gore ba duelwe fa kgwedi e fela. Mongwe le mongwe gore mo lefatsheng lepe… selo se ke se ke neng ka se wa bone o a kgona gore a bone se a se solofeditsweng fa rutiwa ke Professor Dingake fa ke santse ke le ngwana go tsenwa mo dithulaganyong tsa go dirisang mmogo. Kana ke ka mabaka a gore makgetho ke one a thusang wa sekole ke ithuta molao, gore go botlhokwa tota go gore dilo tsa mofuta o di diragale Tona. Ga se bone nna le a very strong opposition fa e nna teng, gore e fela, re na le Makhanselara, badiri ba Dikhansele, le nne e re tshikinya, e tlhole gore a mme re dira sentle. badirelapuso ka kakaretso; barutabana le bone ga gona Democracy tota fela is strengthened fa opposition e le ka letsatsi lepe le re e tleng re utlwe gotwe, bagaetsho very strong. That is why go le botlhokwa gore le rona mmuso wa Botswana ke o ga o kgone go duela badiri we must embrace opposition fa ba ntse ba re tshikinya, ba one, ba tlaa tshwanelwa ke gore ba tseye halves. Ke fela jaaka o utlwa Rre Motsamai ntshikinya ka tsela e leboga gore ga re ise re fitlhe mo diemong tseo. Ke go ya kwa Charles Hill e e yang kwa Charles Hill Revenue kgotlhatse Tona gore o tshware fela ka thata, re se ka ra Office. Ke re ke mo utlwile, kana o ne a ngongorega. Le felela re fitlhile mo diemong tsa mofuta o o ntseng jalo, fa ke ile go mo e rolela a bo a tlhalosa gore go na le P3 mo re utlwang gotwe ba ga rona jaanong ba tlaa duelwa million yo o nyeletseng, ga go itsiwe gore o kae. Ke re halves kana ba tlaa tlodisiwa. fela a nkinele diatla metsing ke ne ke santse ke lebetse Re na le bana bangwe ba tota fela ba tshelang ka mmuso, ka yone. Kana se se neng sa diragala, revenue office eo batsadi ba bone ga ba kgone go ba tshedisa gotlhelele. e ne ya agiwa, go na le tsela e e leng gore it is included Re na le batho ba e leng gore they are described as mo teng. Ke ne ke santse ke re ke a tlhotlhomisa, destitute people, tota fela ke bana ba rona. Rre Molale o intshwarele Mopalamente, ke ne ke lebetse gore tsela solofeditse gore ga gona Motswana ope yo o tlileng go eo go diragetse eng ka yone. E tlaa re fa re fetsa fa ke lala a tsene ka lebitla ka mabaka a tlala. Ke leboga gore go tshware ka mogala ke go itsise gore go diragetse eng mo go se sebaka go ntse fela jalo, ga re ise re utlwalele ka tsela eo. gotwe motho o tsene ka lebitla ka ntata ya tlala. Dilo tse di swabisang tse re di utlwalelang kwa mafatsheng a Ka a kalo Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente ke re, mangwe. Fela ke re ke leboga gore ka mo o tshwereng ga ke na mafoko ape a mantsi. Felafela ke gore ke eme ka teng Tona, go a supa tota fela gore re mmuso o tota nokeng motlotlegi ka molao o e leng gore o o tlisitse. re tsamaisang dilo re itse gore go na le kamoso. Ga re Ke tshwentswe fela ke go utlwa maabane fa a tlhalosa bo nkgaritlheng, ga re je re bo re gora dikotlele re di gore re tlile go dika re latlhegetswe ke P60 million ka tlhatswa. Ke re tshwara fela jalo Tona. mabaka a go sutisa this threshold from P36 000 to P48 000. Ke re gone le fa e le gore o a re latlhegela, go Re na le parastatals tse dintsi tse ke itseng gore o a botlhokwa go sekaseka gore we compensate tatlhego eo ngongorega ka tsone Tona gore di dintsi, e bile di ja fa kae. Ga ke itse gore do we compensate it kwa VAT madi a mantsi a Puso. Kana di hirile bana ba rona. Ke ya maloba re e tsentse mo teng kana we compensate it

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ka gone go oketsa dividend tax from 17.5 per cent to 10 ba ba itlhokang. Lekgetho le bereka fela jalo gore o per cent. Fela se ke se itumelelang ke gore, kana se o kgone go ya sepatela o le nkuku kana ntatemogolo gore se itebagantseng is direct tax e e leng gore ke yone e e o bone thuso le fa e le gore tota fela ntle le Puso, o ne o reng fa motho a berekile e bo e le gore fa a sena go nna ka se ke wa e kgona mme o e bone thuso eo ya bongaka. a amogela, Puso e bo e mo amoga mangwe a madi e a That is why it is so important gore re eme nokeng Tona tlisa kwano. fa a tshematshema le tse tsa lekgetho.

Ka mo ke bonang ka teng, o kare re tlaa compensate Ke bona elucidation, ke tsaya gore mafoko a me a tatlhego e ka go tsenya indirect tax e e tshwanang le fedile ke ka simolola go amogela elucidation. Ga ke itse bo VAT jalojalo that is calculated on your consumption. gore e tswa kwa go mang Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, mma ke se ka ka senya nako e ntsi. Ke tsaya gore re buile mafoko MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR le fa ntswa ke na le nako e e santseng e ntetla gore ke MOLAO): Elucidation. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke a ka tswelela pele ka dikgang tse. Go botlhokwa gore re leboga honourable gore o tshwere kgang e ya lekgetho le Mapalamente le rona re rute ba re tshelang le bone gore go botlhokwa gore le duelwe gore le berekele le ba ba re rumileng molao wa lekgetho re ba eteletse batho. Fa o ya kwa ditsong tsa segaetsho kwa Bakalanga pele fa re o tlhaloganya. Ke a itse gore ke molao o o ba ka Nswazwi, re ne ra thaamana le Kgosi Tshekedi ka matswakabele; o na le dipalo tse dintsi, o boketenyana fa ntateng ya lekgetho le a neng a le lopa mo Bakalakeng o re o a o dira. Le nna fela tota ke le moithuti wa molao ba ka Nswazwi mme le sa berekele ba ba kgethang le e ne e le selo se se neng se le bokete go se tlhaloganya. ya golo gongwe kwa Serowe. Ke sone se se neng sa O montsi. I have never seen a piece of legislation as tsosa tlhakatlhakano Kgosi a re a bontlha bongwe jwa thick as e ya tax, and batho ba le bantsi ga ba itse go le lekgetho bo sale mo kgaolong ya me bo tlhabolole gontsi ka lekgetho. Ba le bantsi ga ba le duele e se ka bagaetsho. Ke nngwe ya ditso tse di teng mo lefatsheng mabaka a gore they are evading, e le ka gore tota fela le gore lekgetho fa le sa berekele batho, go kgona go ga ba le tlhaloganye e bile ga ba itse gore ba na le that nna le gore ba bangwe ba gane go le duela. Ke a leboga. obligation, go fitlhelela ba lekgetho ba ba etela ba ba MR KGAFELA: Go ntse jalo. Lekgetho is a very bolelela gore mme kana le ntse le sa duele sentle, dirang delicate area ka gore fa fraction of the population ba gore le duele. feel gore ga le ba berekele e kgona go nna a basis for a Fela ke ka re ga ke itumelele ba ba itseng ka lone mme revolt. That is why o fitlhela e re fa batho ba feel gore they take deliberate steps to evade. Lekgetho is a very Mmuso ga o dirise lekgetho la bone sentle, they can important aspect of our lives. That is why e le a criminal revolt. Ke leboge gore mo Botswana re batho ba puisano offence fa e le gore you evade it. Le tlaa gakologelwa le fa re ganetsana. Kana ga go reye gore fa opposition e sekebekwa se se tona sa kwa America se neng se bidiwa le very strong and vocal, go raya gore re atumetse gore re ka revolt. Ke lebogela gore re kgakala le seo. Overall, gotwe Al Capone. E ne ya re nako ya fa America e iletsa lekgetho le a itshupa gore le a re berekela. Ba re mo bojwala in 1920s e bo e nna a lucrative business for Palamenteng re tsene sekole ka mabaka a makgetho a him. O tlaa gakologelwa gore o ne a bolaile batho ba Puso, both sides of the aisle. Ga go na ope yo o ka le bantsintsi e le gore o hemela kgwebo e ya gagwe ya ganetsang gore Mmuso wa Botswana o ne wa mo naya bojalwa e kopane le tse dingwe tse di tsamaelanang le opportunity. Ke ne ke na le bo Rre Dithapelo Keorapetse jone. Go bo go raya gore jaanong ba palelwa ke go mo kwa University ya Botswana re le morolo o le mongwe. tshwara. Gape o ne a bribe mongwe le mongwe. O ne a Le ene ga a ka ke a ganela gore o tsene sekole ka ntata bolaya basupi e bile a phimola boatlhodi. E bo e le gore ka makgetho a Mmuso wa Botswana. Le wena fela o tshwarwa ka lekgetho fa a neng a sa solofela teng. Rre Molao jaaka o itse sir gore we are thanking your Ga a tshwarwa ka dilo tse di neng di fatlha; marumo le schools ...(Interruption)… ...(Laughter!)… Nnyaa, go melelo, o ne a ya go tshwarwa ka selo se se sesanyane ne go na le go roba molao go ne go sa palelwe, re bo re fela se e neng a sa solofela, e bo e le gone jaanong ba mo ganetsana mme ga felela go ilwe Kgotlatshekelo e bo e ntshang mo seterateng go bo go rena kagiso. Lekgetho atlhola. That is why o fitlhela e le gore we need to have le ntse fela jalo batsadi fa o le dikologa, le tlaa go kgaola Judges paid gore dikgang di atlholwe. Jaanong re sale re maoto le go go tšhontsha setlhogo fa o itebetseng teng. simolola re seka re le bana ba sekole re le kwa university Le tshwanetse la tsewa mo bahuming ga tla ga thusiwa mme mo go se sebaka re santse re kgona go seka. Go na

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le thokgamo le kagiso mo Botswana, dikgang di isiwa Ke eletsa gore e re Tona a buisa Mapalamente mo go Kgotlatshekelo. Ga re tlhomele ka bo kgobela e bo e le tsibogeleng dintlha tse ba di buileng, a re tlhalosetse gore dikgang tsa rona re di rarabolola ka bo kgobela. gore general revenue collection ya ga Goromente Nnyaa, re na le Kgotlatshekelo. Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo gompieno re e akanyetsa fa kae. As I say, fa ke santse tsa Palamente, ke go lebogela nako e o e nneetseng. ke le kwa lekgotleng la Directorate on Corruption and Economic Crime (DCEC) re bereka thata le ba Ministry MR KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE WEST): of Finance, ke ne ke itse gore revenue collection around Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Le that time ka 2007 e ne e akanyetswa mo go just above nna ke lebogela sebaka sa go akgela mo Income Tax (Amendment) Bill, 2021. Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo, ke 20 per cent. ne ke kopa gore o ntetlelele gore ke nopole se party ya Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, fa o batla Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) e se buileng go bona gore re santse re le kgakala re le lefatshe la ka lekgetho mo maitlamong a ditlhopho a 2019. Ke mo tsebeng ya masome a matlhano le bone (54), mme e Botswana mo go phutheng madi ka makgetho, o lebelele balega jaana, “The UDC will expand fiscal space and mo gotweng tax to Gross Domestic Product (GDP) ratio, strengthen state capability. This is a critical imperative ke gore go phutha makgetho fa o go tshwantshanya le for economic sustainability. At our state of development, itsholelo ka fa e ntseng ka teng. Go na le Organisation we will need a capable developmental state to expand for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) fiscal space and strengthen the developmental . state ba ba e tleng ba lebelele dikgang tsa tax to GDP ratio. UDC Government shall undertake a range of measures. Lefatshe la Botswana mo nakong e e seng kae e e They include maximising revenue collection through fetileng, ke dumela gore dipalo tsele le fa Rre Matsheka efficient and effective tax administration, combating a ka re di tlhalosetsa, ga di kgakala le tse ke tlaa di forfeit shifting and base erosion, quantum improvements buang. Ka ngwaga wa 2018 which is about three years in Government efficiency and effectiveness, achieving ago, lefatshe la Botswana le ne le wetse kwa tlase mo more with less, the recovery of the billions lost to tax to GDP ratio, le phutha around 12.2 per cent. Fa corruption and reprioritisation of Government o tshwantshanya le mafatshe a mangwe, ke a itse gore expenditure in favour of human capital and expanding go nna go ntse gotwe go se ka ga tshwantshanngwa and deepening the tax base through broad-based and le mafatshe a mangwe, mme kana Vision 2016 e ne e inclusive growth.” Mo kakgelong ya me ke tlaabo ke tlhalositse gore mathata mangwe a lefatshe la Botswana ikaegile thata ka se se neng se buiwa ke party ya UDC ke gore, ga re nke re itshwantshanya le the best, ba ba mo go buisaneng Molaokakanyetso o re o beilweng pele kwa godimo, re nna re itshwantshanya le ba ba kwa ke Tona Rre Matsheka. morago. Tshwantshanyo e ke tlaa e fang Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke ya mafatshe a a bapileng Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, go na le mathata le rona a e leng gore ka itsholelo fa o lebelela GDP per a matona a go phutha madi mo lefatsheng la Botswana. capita, fa o lebelela seemo sa itsholelo le population, o Ka dingwaga tsa bo 2007/8 gone foo, fa ke sa fose, kare re na le dilo tse dintsi tse di tsamaelanang. Lefatshe revenue collection mo ga Goromente e ne e tsamaya la Aferika Borwa... around bo 20 per cent. Se se go raya se re fa ka nako eo fa go ka bo go ne go phuthiwa madi ka bokete re HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. ka bo re ke kgakala thata ka itsholelo mo lefatsheng la Botswana. Go tlhoka go nna le ditsamaiso tse di MR KEORAPETSE: Ke kopa go wetsa point e, ke bo lolameng, tse di nonofileng tsa go phutha madi, ke tsone ke go neela mokaulengwe. Lefatshe la Aferika Borwa tse di re baketseng mathata a mo gompieno re leng mo go le phutha 28.4 per cent almost 30 per cent tax to GDP, Namibia 30 per cent, Mauritius 19.8 per cent, mme e le one re le lefatshe la Botswana a go tlhaelelwa ke madi. 20 per cent, Seychelles 30 per cent. Fa o tshwantshanya Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, go botlhokwa le a mangwe a a kgakala a kwa moseja a go tsewang thata gore ditsamaiso tse di baakanngwe. Lekgotla gotwe ke one the best fa go tla mo dikgannyeng tsa le la Botswana Unified Revenue Service (BURS) le not only tax collection, but even le fela welfare state, tshwanetse go tokafadiwa ka bodiredi, ditsompelo, ba o fitlhela lefatshe le tshwana Denmark, collects 46 per ba ithutetseng tiro le ka melao e e nonofileng gore le cent ya tax to GDP ratio, Belgium 44 per cent. Ke one kgone go phutha madi otlhe a a tlhokafalang gore a mafatshe a ke neng ke re ke a tseye ke supe gore, fa o phuthiwe mo Pusong. Makalana a mangwe a Puso a a lebelela bokete jo lefatshe la Botswana le bo phuthang itebagantseng le go phutha madi a tshwanetse gore a mo makgethong, go lebega re le kwa tlase thata fa o re akofe a phuthe madi ka fa go kgonegang ka teng. tshwantshanya le mafatshe a.

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Mongwe o ka botsa gore a ka re Batswana ba ye go mo gongwe o fitlhela motho a na le dikompone di le kgethisiwa thata? Se ke se buileng fa ke simolola ke rile 50, mme jaaka di le 50 jaana ...(Silence)... dikgwebo, le ditsamaiso tsa rona ga di a lolama, melao ya rona ga dikgwebo tse e leng tsa gagwe. Jaanong fa go ntse jaana, e a nonofa mo makgetho a ka phuthiwang. Makgetho go mo letlelela gore o ka felela a duela lekgetho le ene a ka phuthiwa mo go ba ba tsenyang madi ka bokete a le batlang, go bo go raya gore le a tshwanetseng go ka mo dipateng tsa bone. Gantsintsi bone ba, Morena bo a le duela, ga a le duele. Ke gone mo ka Sekgoa ba Mmusi they are not only evading tax, but they are also reng ke transfer pricing. Ke one mathata a matona a re a avoiding tax, ba tila lekgetho. Go na le mo o sa dueleng bonang mo go palelweng ga Puso e ke go duela lekgetho. lekgetho mo o ka lebisiwang molato, go bo go nna le Jaanong, mo o kareng go motlhofo, ke go tabogela kwa mo o lemogang gore system ga e a nonofa, policies ga Batswaneng ba tla ka VAT ba re ba e oketsa from 12 di a nonofa, melao ga e a nonofa, o bo jaanong o tila per cent to 14 per cent, ke go tabogela kwa Batswaneng lekgetho. Go tila moo ga se gore ga go ka fa molaong, ba bo ba raya Batswana ba re duelang 22 per cent wa go le ka fa molaong. Jaanong, ke dikgang tse e leng motlakase, fa Batswana ba santse ba akabetse ka 22 per gore fa di ka akofelwa tsa dirwa, tsa lebelelwa, di ka cent e bile ba le mo COVID-19, gatwe nnyaa e bile re a re fetisa kwa goreng lekgetho le phuthiwe ka ditsela oketsa re tsena mo go ba bangwe. Ke one mathata a re tse di kwa godimo. Fa o tsaya ba go ntseng go buiwa nang le one a gore lekgetho mo bahuming ga leyo. ka bone gotwe ba dira dikgwebo go duelwa madi… Fa o lebelela le mothale o ke rileng Honourable imagine mo dishopong tse dingwe gone fa, o ka reka Matsheka a o lebelele a o sekaseke, wa gore phutha at selo sa ...(Inaudible)… up to P50 000 go kgona gotwe least 30 per cent mo Corporate Income Tax from 22 o bo o tla o tshotse kgetsi ya madi o reka dikipara tsa per cent yo o mo phuthang gompieno. Ene a re o ya campaign kwa Oriental Plaza, o duelela posters kwa go bona about P1.3 billion ka VAT, ke mo raya ke re kae kwa di dirwang teng o duela madi cash, e le gore mme o ka bona a a fetang ao, fa o ka oketsa Corporate ga gona jaaka fa BURS le Rre Matsheka ba ka itseng Income Tax wa e isa kwa go 30 per cent from 22 per gore a mme lekgetho le lopilwe mo mading a. Ke tlaa neela Honourable Hikuama to elucidate mo nakong ya cent. Fa gongwe dikarabo e nna gore nnyaa, rona re gompieno fa a santse a eletsa. akanya gore go motlhofo go busa, mongwe o ne a bua jalo a re go busa ga go motlhofo. Nnyaa, lepolotiki la MR HIKUAMA: Ke a leboga Honourable Speaker, Botswana Congress Party (BCP) Rre Vain Mamela, o ke a leboga Honourable Member. Gongwe o ka tswa e tle a tlhalose gore le se ka la nna la re tshosetsa ka o arabile mo ke neng ke batla gore ke go tlhaloganye, go nna le re raya le re go busa go thata, go busa ga se mme mma ke botse jaana. O supa presentation e e masalamose. O batla mananeo a sepolotiki, policies le botlhale thata, e e supang gore target group kana batho alternative strategies tse o ka busang ka tsone. Go busa ba ba tshwanetseng go ka ntsha lekgetho, e kete Puso ga ga se masalamose, ga se bosangoma jo e reng o tlaa re e fitlhelele kwa go bone go tsaya lekgetho le. Ga ke itse, o re ke jone, o bo o bona motho a rwele dibaga, ga se jaaka o setse o supa dipalopalo tsa gore gongwe we are moo. It is not rocket science, gape e bile fa o lebelela only above 20 per cent mo bathong ba re tshwanetseng le boleng jwa batho ba re nang le bone mo diphathing go phutha mo go bone kana ba duele lekgetho, fa o tsa kganetso le ideas tse ba sa bolong go tla ka tsone lebile ke eng se se dirang gore ntswa re tlhoka madi re which the Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) is playing le Puso, re bo re ka palelwa ke go phutha madi mo go ba catchup, go a go supegetsa gore go busa ga e ka ke ya ba tshwanetseng go ntsha lekgetho ba botlhe? Se se re nna masalamose mo go rona fa o ka re neela marapo a paledisang thata fa o lebile le ditshekatsheko tsa gago, go busa. ke eng? Rre Molale o ne a bua gore revenue mangmang e MR KEORAPETSE: Well, go ka tswa go le dilo di tswa mo ditswammung, bojanaleng, Southern African le mmalwa. Selo sa ntlha ke se ke reng, fa o lebelela Customs Union (SACU) receipts, le mo makgethong, capacity ya BURS le ditsamaiso tsa yone di bokoa. Fa mme a bo a sa wele gore se re nnang re se bua re le ba o lebelela le melao ya rona, e letlelela ba ba humileng kganetso re re, fa itsholelo e ka bo e kopane le dikgeleke thata gore ba kgone go tila lekgetho. Ba na le methale e tsa go fetlha khumo, re ka bo re bua jaana innovation, if e farologanyeng e ba e dirisang gore ba se ka ba duela we invested more on research and development, e ka bo lekgetho, ga se fela gore ba bo ba sena swiping machines e le mothale mongwe o re ka bong re tsenya madi mo mo dishopong tsa bone which are not linked to BURS, letloleng la ga Goromente.

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Manufacturing Industry; fa re ne re kile ra reetsa go se re bolelela, se ke dumelang gore le se ele tlhoko lona buiwa ka beneficiation, go tlhotlha ditswammung tsa bo maitseanape bo Dr Tshabang, Dr Gobotswang le rona gore re dire dilo re godise manufacturing sector ya Honourable Lucas, ke gore Rre Matsheka fa a bua gore rona, re ka bo re tsenya madi ka tsela e e seng kana ka itsholelo e dirile ditiro di le kae, ga a ka ke a go bolelela sepe mo lefatsheng la rona mo itsholelong. gore tse di latlhegetseng itsholelo di kae, gore o kale tota gore boleng jwa se a se buang ke eng. Gompieno Services Industries; fa re ne re kile ra di tokafatsa, re o re bolelela gore 27,000 ya batho ba tlaabo ba tswa dirisa madi a diteemane, re dira fela jaaka mafatshe a a mo tax register. Go tsene ba le kae ba e rileng fa re tshwanang le Dubai ba dirile ba sa lebelela oil fela. ya kwa ditlhophong, batho ba bo ba okeletswa madi Ba ne ba tsaya oil yone e ba kabakanya itsholelo ya go rekiwa ditlhopho, ba fiwa bo ntlole, ba fiwa ma 10 bone, go fitlhela e le gore oil ga e sa tlhole e le selo se per cent, 6 per cent le 4 per cent, ba bo ba tlhatlogela kwa threshold yone e ya P4,000 per month? E le gore ba ikaegileng ka sone, re ka bo re le kgakala re sa lope jaanong Honourable Matsheka o tla a kibakiba gore ke hidden taxes; makgetho a a iphitlhileng mo Batswaneng. go neetse ntlole, jaanong ke pota ka fa ke a mo tsaya. Fa re ne re iphetlhela motlakase wa rona jaaka fa re Ga a re tlhalosetse gore bone ba, ba ba tseneng mo ne re kile ra tlhalosa re le ba kganetso gore a re direng threshold yone e ba kae? Ke gone re tlaa kgonang go dira a proper assessment of what he is introducing of power plant bogologolo joo, re ka bo gompieno jaana increasing threshold from P36,000 to P48,000. Ka gore re sa dirise (spend) madi a mantsi, re reka motlakase pelaelo ya rona ke yone e ya gore ba ba neng ba ipona kwa mafatsheng a mangwe. Jaanong go nna e kete ba tsena mo go amogeleng more than P4,000 go ya go raya gore kana kgang e ya lekgetho is a panacea kwa godimo ka madi a a neng a okediwa fa re ya kwa kana ke yone tota mangmang o o ka re fitlhisang … ditlhophong, ke bone ba Honourable Matsheka jaanong (Interruptions)... Nnyaa, ga go a nna jalo ka gore go tota fela o ka bo a tsaya sebaka se fela a ba horolola gore na le mafatshe Honourable Majaga a e leng gore ga go bagaetsho, ga gona ntlole, jaanong re simolola go mo duelwe lekgetho ka gore mafatshe a e rile fela a simolola tsaya ka motlakase, ka metsi jaaka mo mapodiseng ba lebelo la itsholelo, a kopana le dikgeleke tsa go fetlha setse ba simolotse. Re mo tsaya ka go oketsa threshold khumo, mme mafatshe ao a a tshwanang le bo United jaanong re e isa kwa go P4,000 per month. Rolelang Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Cayman Batswana le ba bolelele ka kgang yone eo. Islands, Bahamas le Monaco, ga go duelwe income tax kwa mafatsheng one ao. Ga se ka masalamose gore e bo Go na le dikgang tse di buegang tsone tsa bo gore e le gore ga go duelwe bo income tax. Banni le batlhophi lekgetho fa le sa berekele batho, go ka nna le revolt. Ke ba koo, ga ba kokonelwe ke makgetho, ga se ka boammaaruri. In political science, re a tle re bue gore masalamose. Ke ka proper planning le foresight; vision, legitimacy of any state rests on its ability to cater for its go ela dilo tlhoko le tebelopele ya go tsamaisa itsholelo. citizens le gore for a state to exercise legitimate political Jaanong ke yone kgang e ke neng ke re bagaetsho, re authority, it must enjoy that legitimacy and one way e e e tlhaloganye gore go ka diragala gore jaaka o bone leng gore batho can withdraw yone legitimacy kana ba fela ka lefatshe la Botswana gore nako e go neng… ka supa gore ga ba amogele yone Puso, ke ditsela tsone (Interruptions)…ba nkitaya tsebe Honourable Speaker. tsa gore batho ba gane go duela makgetho. E seng mo ga Re santse re le mo nakong ya gore madi a ne a tsena ba merafe e mengwe ka fa ba dirang ka teng, bao bone ka bokete a ditswammung, go ne go sena makgetho a a tota ba a re nyatsa. Ba re fitlhetse. Ba fitlhetse e le gore tshwanang le bo VAT. Ke dumela gore lekgetho la teng pitse e ole ka disale. Honourable Mmusi fa a bua gore was introduced ka July 2002, pele ga foo, le ne le seyo. batho ga ba nke ba tlhokafala ka tlala mo lefatsheng la Ke sone se ke reng, go ne go sena tebelopele ya gore Botswana, ke puo e e ratiwang le ke Honourable Molale, itsholelo e ka kabakanngwa jang, e ka fetlha khumo ka batho ba a tlhokafala mo lefatsheng la Botswana ka tsela e e ntseng jang, madi a ka gola jang mo coffers tsa ntata ya lehuma, le gore motho o kgona go ema ngwaga Puso Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. kana dingwaga tse pedi a emetse a surgeon, a emetse loaro, mme a sena madi a go ituelelwa kwa Bokamoso Fa o lebelela Bill e ya ga Honourable Matsheka, o bua kana kwa Aferika Borwa, a bo a felela a tsena ka lebitla. ka gore o oketsa individual income tax threshold from Ke gone fa lehuma le ka tsenyang motho ka lebitla ka P36,000 to P48,000 per annum. Ke dumela gore jaaka teng. Jaanong lona le se ka la e lebelela narrowly fela fa a bua gore batho ba le 27,000 ba tlaabo ba tswa mo gore Batswana ga ba ke ba lala ka tlala, jaanong ga ke tax register, kana se Honourable Matsheka a nnang a ba bolawa ke gore ba tshwerwe ke tlala.

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Rre Matsheka, akanyetsa makgetho a mangwe a gotweng tlaabong ba amogela dividends. Ka fa a e rulagantseng ke weighted taxes. Ba e leng gore are buying luxury ka teng, go supa ka boammaaruri gore o ne a lebeletse goods, fa Honourable Letsholo a ya go reka watch ya Batswana ka kakaretso, a lebile gore ba ba ka amiwang Rolex, mo kgethise thata. Fa Honourable Rakgare a ya ke seemo se re leng mo go sone se se tlisitsweng ke go reka koloi ya Mercedes… COVID, sa itsholelo gore e bo e le fa e leng teng, ba ka bona thulaganyo e e ntseng jaana ka tsela e e ntseng HONOURABLE MEMBER: Owai! Ga gona ka Rolex jang, ka go leka gore a lebelele bone ba ba kwa tlase kwa go nna. mo dituelong, a bo a ba ntsha mo thulaganyong ya gore ba bo ba ka duela lekgetho. Tota re tshwanetse gore re MR KEORAPETSE: …mo kgethise thata. Nnyaa, e tlhamalatse, madi a a okeditseng ka one a P12,000 go ke fa dikai, ga ke e bue ka mowa ope Honourable tswa mo go P36,000 go ya kwa go P48,000, ke madi a Members. Fa Honourable Healy a ya go reka Whiskey mantsi fa o lebile gore palo ya batho ba ba 27,000 ke kana Brandy tse di turang, mo kgethise thata go na le yo bone ba ba ntshitsweng foo gore ba bo ba ka se ke ba o rekang mashi, phaletshe le bopi jwa mabele, le yo o nna ba duela lekgetho. lekang go duelela ngwana kwa sekoleng. Sekaseka ntlha Re bua re le Mapalamente re ntse jaana, re batla gore eo Honourable Minister. Go nne gape le employment Goromente a dire tsotlhe tse ba dikgaolo tsa rona ba tax incentives mo dikomponeng tse di hirang banana di tlhokang, mme kana ga gona kwa madi a ka tswang ba dingwaga tsa 35. Financial transactions tax, a ko teng. A tswa mo makgethong. Fa re batla ditlhabololo, o di lebelele Honourable Minister. Interbank Transfers, a bo e le gore gongwe re ka nna kgatlhanong le gore mobile money transactions, swiping, bank withdrawals makgetho le one a tswe mo bathong, go ya go nna and deposit tsa madi a mantsi, di lebelele ka gore di dingalo gore ditlhabololo tse re di batlang tseo, di ka ka phutha makgetho, tsa tsenya madi mo dipateng tsa dirwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Gone mo, ke sone se ke Batswana. Lebelela thata ntlha yone ya foreign exchange batlang gore re kgothatse ba ga rona kwa dikgaolong controls gore a di tsamaye. Lebelela sin taxes. Bojalwa, gore lekgetho, fa o kgethisiwa ga se molato ka gore motsoko, and gambling kana go itaya mataese. Tseo lekgetho le tswa kwa kgakala le botshelo jwa motho. tsone fa o ka oketsa makgetho a teng, ga gona mathata; Fa motho a tshelang teng, lekgetho le teng, o ka fitlhela ke sin taxes, le tsone ke tsaya gore fa o ka dira sentle, go e le fale le fale fela. Mme e bile se se kgatlhisang ke ka nna le makgethonyana a a ka tsenang mo the coffers. gore lekgetho ga le kgetholole, le tshwana le oxygen. Lwantsha tshenyetso-setšhaba rraetsho ka gore ke yone Those are two commodities tse e leng gore ga o ka ke tota e e tsayang makgetho a Batswana, mme tse dingwe wa kgetholola ka tsone. Fa o le motho, you need oxygen tse tsa bo dividends taxes, re dumalana le tsone. Ke a gore o tshele. leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Fa o le motho o tshela, o batla gore ditlhabololo di ye HONOURABLE MEMBER: O a e utlwa megopolo kwa pele, you need lekgetho. Ga go ka fa o ka dirang ka Modukanele, o kae? teng lekgetho le seyo gore o tsweledise thulaganyo e o nang le yone. Rra, re a go leboga ka fa o dirileng ka teng. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Regoeng! Ke tsaya gore letseno la batho ba ba amegileng thata ba HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, kana ke ba kwa tlase le tlaa nna botoka. Madi a ba ntseng ba letse maabane ke supilwe, jaanong ga ke itse gore go reka ka one gompieno, e tlaare fa re ya go tsena mo diragetse jang. kgweding ya July kana June, e bo ba oketsa dithoto tse ba ntseng ba di reka. Re lebile gore mo ba ntseng ba MR SPEAKER: Ke ne ke seyo. go ntsha e le lekgetho, jaanong go tlaabo go tsena mo dipateng tsa bone. Selo seo re a se lebogela fela thata. MR REGOENG (MOLEPOLOLE NORTH): Ke a Ke batla go go leboga gape gore e ne ya re o leba ba ba leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente gore o bo kwa tlase mo letsenong, wa se ka wa itlhokomolosa ba o mphile sebaka sa gore ke akgele mo… ba botokanyana. O ne wa re le fa o fokotsa, go bo go MR SPEAKER: …but you are on the list. na le ka fa o oketsang ka teng. Dikgang tsa gore o bo o oketsa dividends from 7.5 per cent gore e ye kwa go 10 MR REGOENG: …Bill e ya lekgetho e re sa tswang per cent, ke go sireletsa gore fa go tshwaphogileng teng, go e bewa pele ke Tona Matsheka. Ke dumalana le ka o bo o baakanya. Ba ba nang le se se botoka, ba duele fa a e arogantseng ka teng; diphetogo tse a di tlisitseng go le go golwanyane go na le ba e leng gore gotlhelele mo makgethong a rona a ba ba berekang le ba ba ga ba na.

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Bontsi jwa nako mo dikomponeng tse dingwe, ga se ba logang. Ke a itse gore ke ba dikgwebo tse di potlana go tsena meetings fela, madi a mangwe o fitlhela ba a mme bangwe ba bone ba dira madi a a fetang P4,000 duela kwa thoko e le directors’ fee. O fitlhela gone foo, yo o mmeileng. P4,000 o mo dira ka weekend e le one. lekgetho le tshwaphoga, le sa tsene. Ke itumela thata Mo go raya gore fa a ya go nna weekends tse four mo gore o tsentse le ba ba sa duelweng salaries kgwedi le kgweding, it is about P16,000. Ga ba kgethe ka lebaka la kgwedi mme ba tsaya directors’ fee. Ba na le letseno gore ba nna ka fa tlase ga ditlhare. Batho ba kgobokana le ba le tsenyang mo Pusong ba kgetha. Gone moo re foo ba dira meriri, go se na thulaganyo epe e e bonwang a go lebogela fela thata. Go a lemotshega gore o ne wa gore ba ka kgethisiwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang. A e re e sekaseka o sa leba ntlha e le nngwefela. O ne o lebile o ntse o tsamaya rra, o bone gore batho ba mofuta o dintlha tse tsotlhe, ba ba kwa godimo, ba ba fa gare le ba o ntseng jaana, o ka ba dira jang. Ba tle ba kgethe. Re ba kwa tlase. O leba gore ba o ka ba kgethisang go le go bone gore letseno le nna teng ka gore ba dira madi. golwanyane ke ba ba fa kae. Golo moo re a go lebogela fela thata. E nngwe e ke batlang go tsena mo go yone rraetsho ke ya BURS; ke yone e e re tseelang makgetho. That is Selo se se tona se ke batlang go gatelela mo go sone a very strategic organisation. O a gakologelwa gore jaaka bakaulengwe ba ntse ba bua, ke thuto. Thuto e ya e rile ka February ngwaga o o neng o feta, ke ne ka lekgetho e santse e saletse kwa morago. Ba bangwe ba botsa Tona wa Madi gore kwa BURS moeteledipele e bona e le gore ba tseelwa madi fela. Ba sa e bapise ka wa teng o mo hira leng? O ne wa ntsholofetsa gore o gope le gore Goromente o tshwanetse go gatela pele a mo thulaganyong ya gore o mo hire. Gompieno jaaka tlhabolola dikole, dikokelo le ditsela. Ke one madi a a ke bua jaana, o santse a hirilwe ka nama o sa tshwere dirang ditiro tse di tshwanang le tse di ntseng jalo. Go morago ga lebaka la ngwaga le go feta. Golo moo a ga tshwanetse gore go nne le thuto e e tseneletseng gore ba e ka ke ya re re na le organisation e tshwana le ele, e le itse gore fa ba kgethisiwa, ga se gore ba swelwa ka sepe. very strategic, e bo e le gore yo o tshwanetseng gore a Motho o kgethisiwa ka gore go na le letseno. Fa le seyo, e drive, a bone gore makgetho a a tsena, a bo a sa hirwa ga go na ka fa a ka kgethisiwang ka teng. Ke kgang e e mo go tlhomameng. A sa itse gore a kamoso o ntse o tshwanetseng go nna le thulaganyo e e tseneletseng ya theogetse kana ga a theogela. Golo moo go mmaya mo gore batho ba utlwa jang ka tsela ya go kgetha. seemong se e leng gore le fa a ne a na le dikeletso tsa go baakanya, o ya go baakanya ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Ka Tax forms tse di dirisiwang tsa returns, o kare di di tona o teng o foo o a dira, fa o ise o ipaakanye gore o ka hira thata. Ba bangwe fa ba e tsaya ba e leba e ntse jaana, yo mongwe, o mo tlhomamise. Go tlhomamisa ga go o bona e le thata. Ba bangwe e a ba itsapisa, ba bo ba reye gore o mo fa dingwaga tse lesome kana tse tlhano. sa e tlatse. Ba ba maleba ba lebelele gore form e ya Le fa o ka mo fa dingwaga tse tharo kana tse pedi, at returns gore e ka baakanngwa jang. E khutshwafadiwe least o tlaabo a itse gore o a bereka. Gompieno ga a itse Motswana a e tlatse, a se na bothata bope jwa go ka dira gore a o a bereka, a kamoso o tlaabo a ntse a bereka. Re jalo. a itse gore go thata mme ka fa o ka lekang ka teng, o Kgang e nngwe e ke batlang go tsena mo go yone ke bone gore o e baakanya ka tsela e e ntseng jang. A tle a kgabola ke ya gore, bontsi jwa batho bogolo jang mo itse gore o a bereka, o ka dira dilo tsa gagwe ka tsela e e dikgwebong… Jaaka bakaulengwe ba ntse ba bua, re ntseng jang. Kwa ntle ga ... latlhegelwa ke madi a mantsi re le Puso ka batho ba ba MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR sa kgetheng mme ba tshwanela ke go kgetha. Re buile MOLAO): On a point of clarification. Ke a leboga thata ka dikgang tsa batho ba ba dirang dikgwebo and Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga Honourable Regoeng. Mo go bontsi jwa bone do not operate any bank accounts. They ya BURS, o tle o baakanye, o ne o dirisa Setswana se deal with cash only. Fa o bona batho ba dira jaana, se a se reng BURS e re tseela makgetho, batho ba tloga ba bo se le teng. Ba santse ba le teng batho ba mofuta o o akanya gore…gongwe ba sa go utlwe sentle. Jaanong e ntseng jaana. Tona, o bone gore o senka ditshetlana dife gore batho ba mofuta o o ntseng jaana, ba tshwarwe. re o ntse o tsweletse, o fete ka ntlha e ya gore motlotlegi Ba tshwarwe e seng ba isiwa kgolegelong but gore ba yo o neng a bua pele ga gago, Rre Keorapetse seemingly duele lekgetho. Ke yone e ke e go kopang rraetsho gore berating us as an administration, a tshwantshanya e potlakelwe. Go bonwe gore go ka baakanngwa ka le Bahamas le Cayman Island gore koo ga go duelwe tsela e e ntseng jang, dilo tsa boela mo tseleng. Ga se makgetho, jaanong it is lack of foresight. Fa o lebelela, bone fela, fa morago ga ofisi ya gago, go na le batho ba Bahamas le Cayman Island ke mafelo a e leng gore are

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considered as tax havens. Mafatshe a ila go dirisana le ba leke go senka ditselana dingwe, mechanism o tota re one. A mme ke sengwe se e leng gore re le Botswana, ka tlhomamisang gore Batswana botlhe ba ba maleba a re ne re ka tshwantshanngwa le tax havens? Fa re sa ba ba tshwanetseng go kgetha, ba a kgetha. Fa re ka tshwane le Bahamas le Cayman Island, a mme ke go se ke re dire jalo, re ya go fitlhela madi a mantsi a re tlhoka foresight mo lefatsheng la Botswana? Go bo re latlhegetse mme fa gongwe e se ka bomo jwa bone ba ba sa bereke jaaka bone re le tax havens and therefore, a tshwanetseng go kgetha bao, e le fela gore thulaganyo re tshwanetse ra kgojwa ka mafoko gore re paletswe? e e leng teng gongwe e motlhofo gore le bone ba bo Keletso ke gore re ka bo re tshwana le bone. O fete ka ba ka e fapoga, e bo e le gore ga ba kgethe. A BURS yone gore o e bona e le kgang ya mofuta mang? gongwe Tona ba leke thata gone gore they come up with mechanism ya go bona gore Batswana botlhe ba MR REGOENG: Ke simolole ka e ya ntlha ya gore ba amegang ba ka kgona go duela lekgetho, re tle re BURS ke yone e re tseelang makgetho. Go tsaya tswelele pele le ditlhabololo. makgetho ke raya gore ke yone e phuthelang Puso makgetho go le maleba. Yo o neng a sa e tlhaloganya Rraetsho, ka one mafoko ao tota ke ema nokeng sentle, a e tlhaloganye. Ke raya gore ke lone lekalana le Tshutiso ya gago e o tlileng ka yone ya gore o baakanye le re phuthelang madi re le Batswana, re le Goromente lekgetho jaaka o le baakantse ka tsela e e ntseng jaana. ka fa tsamaisong ka fa molaong. Mme ya gore re bo re Ke tsaya gore ga gona ope yo o akanyang sentle, yo o tshwantshanngwa le mafatshe a mangwe, circumstances ka gananang le thulaganyo jaaka o e dirile. Jaaka ba di a farologana. bangwe ba tle ba bue gore gongwe go kgethisiwa ba ba senang, ba ba nang fa gongwe ba bo ba tlogelwa fela Ke gore fa gongwe fa re itshwantshanya, re nne re jalo. Nnyaa o e baakantse, ga gona ope yo o ka tlholang lebelela gore fa re leng teng go ntse jang, ba Bahamas a bua lefoko le le ntseng jalo ka gore o ne wa lebelela bone ba tshela ka tsela e e ntseng jang. ba letseno le le kwa tlase, o ba ntshe ba emele fa thoko Santlha gape ke gore lekgetho le sale le tswa kwa motho gore e tlaa re le sena go nna le oketsa, le bo le ka tsena a tswang teng. Gore motho a bo a kgetha, ga se gore o mo group ya go kgetha. Ba ba nang le sepe se se tsenang kgethesiwa ka gore o dirile ope molato, ke tshwanelo se segolwanyane, bone e bo e le gore o ka ba raya wa re ya gagwe. I will just give an example; University of nnyaa oketsang ka fa le ka oketsang ka teng. Ka mafoko Botswana (UB) e agilwe ka motho le motho kgomo. ao Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke dumalana E le fela gore Batswana ba ne ba eletsa gore ba ka le the Income Tax (Amendment) Bill ya 2021 jaaka fa e tlhabolola sekole sa bone sa mmadikole. Mme gongwe fetisitswe ke Tona. Ke a leboga. kwa Bahamas, ga ba ka ke ba letlelela selo se se ntseng jalo. E bile jaaka fa o bua, fa e le gore ke gone kwa MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY (GABORONE batlola-molao ba isang gone madi koo, ga re ka ke ra CENTRAL): Thank you very much Mr Speaker and tla re ipela fela re bo re tshwana le batho ba mofuta o good afternoon. Honourable Dr Matsheka, re batla go o ntseng jalo. Ke raya gore kgang eo ga ke dumalane go akgola for Income Tax (Amendment) Bill, 2021. Ke le yone gotlhelele Honourable Keorapetse fa e le gore go akgola mongwame ke go akgolela mmangmmang mafatshe a e leng gore ga a dire dilo tsa one ka fa go gore o tsholeditse seelo sa fa lekgetho le simololang tshwanetseng ka teng, re bo re tla re itshwantshanya le teng. Mo go rayang gore batho bagarona jaanong selo one, re re re eletsa re ka bo re tshwana le one. Nnyaa, santlha o okeditse batho ba e leng gore ga ba duele nna ke le nosi fela ka re a re direng dilo tsa rona jaaka fa lekgetho mme gape o fokoditse le mo e leng gore le ba di ntse. Goromente wa Botswana o na le tebelopele fela ba le duelang, o ba fokoleditse fa ba simololang teng. fa e sale a tsaya boipuso ka 1966. Rotlhe re a dumela Jaanong go raya gore go oketsa madi a a felelang a le gore lefatshe le le fitlhetswe le le fa kae mme re le beile mo pateng kwa mafelong a kgwedi. fa kae. Ga gona ope yo o ka ngongoregang ka kgang yone e. Ga se gore mathata a re nang nao gompieno, fa a Honourable Matsheka, mme gape ke itumelela gore le teng go raya gore selo sengwe se padile. Ke fela gore maloba re ne re le fa go buiwa dikgang tse dintsi gore go mathata a tsile re ne re sa solofela gore a ka nna teng lebega o kare ga o na sepe le Batswana le batho ba kwa mme e bile a sa tlisiwe ke motho ope. Peleng, o nna o lebile fela kwa Batswaneng, bahumi le boradikompone ga o nke o ba kgethisa. Go lebega fa Ke ne ke santse ke re ke wela mo go yone e ya BURS; mongwame o bua gore o ya go oketsa lekgetho la madi a gongwe Tona ka gore tota re lwa ka gore re re bontsi jwa mong wa kompone kana motsayakarolo mo komponeng makgetho ga a tsewe mo bathong, gongwe ba BURS a a duelwang e le dikatso, kana ke re Dividends Tax.

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Selo se se supa gore batho ba go nnang gotwe ga o ba and then re bo re balelela ka fa go dirilweng ka teng plus kgethise, ba gotweng ke bone bahumihumi, go na le fa 25 per cent yo, go bo go tshwana le motho a amogela o supang gore le bone o batla gore o oketse seelo sa gongwe P1 million, ba teng batho ba ba amogelang makgetho a bone. madi ao ka kgwedi, gore manokonoko mo mothong yo o amogelang fela fa godimo ga P13, 000.00 compared Mo Clause 4, ke yone ya Dividends Tax; ke sebete se to yo o amogelang matshebetshebe, ke gore yo o molangwana fela go le gonnyennyane gore ya non- amogelang madi a mantsintsi golo mo ga go utlwale. resident e ka bo e le fa godingwana. Ke raya gore gone Lekgetho le mo go ene is minimal. Ke tsaya gore fa I appreciate gore e feta ya ba ba nnang mono. Ke tsaya motho a amogela bo P300,000.00, P200, 000.00 ka ba gore kana golo mo it is one of the ways tsa go dira gore teng mo lefatsheng leno mongwame, gongwe batho ba o madi a nne mo lefatsheng la rona. Fa motho a bona gore tshwanetse gore o bo o setse o tsamaya somewhere close fa ke sa nne mo lefatsheng la Botswana, seelo sa me sa to 40 per cent ya income. go duela Dividends Tax se ya fa godingwana, go tlaabo go raya gore a nne mono; a tshele dipetorole, a reke One of the things that I think is very important in dijo. Go tlaabo go tsenya madi mo itsholelong ya rona. taxation ke gore e dirisediwe gore re belegane. Ba ba Ke itumelela gore go na le pharologanyo mo benggae nang le bokgoni jo bontsintsi, gakere bokgoni joo bo le ba ba nnang go sele, mme ke eletsa gore gongwe tswa mo itsholelong ya lefatshe la rona? Jaanong a bo pharologanyo ya teng e ka bo e le fa godingwana, go na kokoanye matshelo a Batswana ba bangwe ba gongwe le jaaka o setse o e dirile. ba senang bana bokgoni jone joo. Fa o amogela madi a mantsintsi, a tax ya gago le yone e nne kwa godimodimo Withholding Tax kana lekgetho le le tsewang mo go nyalana le bontsintsi jo o bo amogelang gore o kgone mmereking kgwedi le kgwedi gore kwa mafelelong go belega ba bangwe ba gongwe itsholelo ya bone e a ngwaga e bo e le gore o a bo a duetse lekgetho leng kwa tlase. le le tshwanetseng, kana fa e le gore gongwe o ka tswa a fetile go le gonnyennyane, a busediwe se a se I know we run a free market economy, mme a big part of busediwang, kana fa e le gore o fa tlasenyana, a oketse our economy is the social welfare aspect of it. Jaanong se a tshwanetseng go ka bo a se duela. Mathata a me le nngwe ya dilo tse di ka thusang gore o nne le madi a dilo yone fela ke gore ga gona pharologanyo magareng ga yo tse, ke gone gore the haves should part with much more o nnang kwano le yo o nnang go sele. Kana akanya fa of their disposable income than the have-not. Ke yone ke nna kwa lefatsheng lepe fela le le ka dirisiwang e le kgang e ke lekang go e bua mongwame. sekai, jaanong fa se ke se dirang mo Botswana se fela, go nna motlhofo gore ke tsamaye fela ka madi ao. Jaanong Mo go yone ‘A Schedule’, go na le fa o buang ka taxes o fa e ne e le gore ke madi a a fa godingwana, o tlaabo o ntse o di farologanya jaana. Tlaa ke bue ka International tshwere a larger portion of se motho a tshwanetseng go Financial Services Centre (IFSC) mongwame; it is at ka se duela. Go raya eng? Go raya gore fa e le gore go ka 15 per cent. Rre Matsheka this is one of the greatest nna gore a sie kana a reng, ke gore there is no incentive. ways tse e leng gore madi a a tswa mo lefatsheng la Ke gore se ke lekang go goroga kwa go sone ke gore rona ka gore ga rena dikgang tse tsa exchange control. all these taxes you must also use them as an incentive Ke a itse gore in the beginning, the whole idea e ne e le gore fa o dira madi mo Botswana, o leke gore o nne mo gore re leke go ngoka financial institutions gongwe ba Botswana kana go nne le motlhala o o oketsang gore insurances, dibanka, jalojalo gore ba tle ka mmetela mo madi a gago a nne mo itsholelong ya Botswana. Jaanong lefatsheng la rona. Kana ke belaela gore thulaganyo e ya ke ne ke ngongorega gore go lekalekana fela, that tax a IFSC e tshwanetse ya bo e atumela gongwe dingwaga o nna mo Botswana kana o nna go sele, di lekalekana di le bo 20 fa ke sa fose. A mme re bone mmetela o re fela. neng re o batla, o re neng re dira gore batho ba duele makgetho a a kwa tlasetlase a? A over this 20-year th Mongwame, ke batla go tsena kwa go 8 Schedule, period, has it worked, have we got a rush ya batho ba ba Table 2, e e buang ka taxable income. Fa ke ntse ke leka eletsang to invest mo lefatsheng la rona ka gore ba bona go tla le yone le dipalo tsa teng ke bona gore seelo sa tax ya IFSC e le kwa tlase? P156, 000.00 kana P13, 000.00 ka kgwedi, ke sone se se kwa godimo se o se kgethisang. Jaanong le ntswa ke itse In this same period mongwame, ke tsaya gore o ka gore from there go na le 25 per cent mo go a a salang, ke dumelana le nna gore mafatshe a tshwana le bo Mauritius, gore ke akanya fa motho a amogela gongwe P20, 000.00 ba bone bagwebi ba re ba eletsang ba go nna jaana, they

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have attracted many more that we have. Kana e nkisa we need to strengthen BURS in that regard so that the gone kwa kgannyeng e re nnang re go tshwenya ka yone leakages tse di diragalang in the economy ya rona, madi re le bantsi gone fa ya exchange control. We appreciate a mantsintsi a a sa goroge mo pateng ya gago rra, a bo all these, mme one of the ways tse di ka bong di re thusa, a goroga. gongwe le wena o bo o sa tlhoke go oketsa makgetho gope, fa e ne e le gore more of the money is staying in Rre Matsheka, ba le bantsi ke bona ba nnetse go bua this economy than se re se bonang se diragala gone jaana gore o tsaya ka lebogo le, o fa ka le lengwe. Golo moo mo e leng gore le fa Morena Mmusi a ka mpha tender ya Rre Matsheka, ke go intsha ditlhong fela ka gore ba ne P500 million ke tswa kwa lefatsheng lepe le ke tswang ba palama ditafole, ba galaotega, ba re sa gago fela ke kwa go lone, fa e le gore mo go P500 million yo profit gore o nna o tsaya. Jaanong ga ba batle fela gore ba yame ke P200 million kana P150 million, ke tsamaya ka re nnyaa mongwame, o na le lenaneo le o le setseng one otlhe. Fa go ne go le thata gore ke tsamae ka madi morago, le o tsamayang ka lone. Rona re na le gore otlhe Rre Matsheka, gongwe o ka bo o sa tlhoke gore ka fela fa re akanya se re se akanyang, re bo re batla go go fa go wena o oketse makgetho kana gore o nne o ya ka tsamaisa ka lebelo le rona re le akantseng. We have to godimo ka bo VAT, le ka a mangwe a maloba re a bua. If admit sir that you have your own programme, and it is we could tackle this monster ya free exchange controls, unfolding. Dikgang tse dintsintsi tse o sa bolong go nna more money will stay and circulate in this economy, and o bua ka tsone tsa transformation agenda that you have more people would benefit from that circulation ya madi presented before us, is unfolding. Mathata fela ke gore ao. Jaanong mongwame ke tsaya gore eo re tlile go go re ditlhong, ga re batle go go raya fela re re rra o na le tshwenya ka yone. tebelopele e e tseneletseng, e e kwa pele ga ya rona. Re na le go kgala fela, e re nako ya dilo tse di neng gongwe Kana rotlhe ga re bommantswitswidi ba tsa itsholelo, re di nyatsa mo nakong e e fetileng, nako ya teng fa e gongwe letsatsi lengwe fela o re beye fa fatshe, o re goroga, re bo re palelwa fela ke go nna le maikobo fela bolelele gore tota this free exchange controls, are they a gore nnyaa, mme gongwe dikakanyo tse re neng re na working for us, and if they are working, what are the le tsone, le wena o ne o ntse o na le tsone. Wena o ne o milestones. Comparatively, fa o re tshwantshanya le tsamaya ka lenaane la gago ka gore obviously when you ba re neng re leka gore re ngoke bagwebi ba ba kwa got into office, having been appointed, you first sat down le mookamedi o mo raya o re nna dikakanyo tsame ke go bone, jaaka ke ntse ke efa sekai ka lefatshe la tse. O ne wa nna fa fatshe le bogogi jwa Ministry of Mauritius, bone se ba se dirang in the same light, go Finance le ministries dipe tse o berekang le tsone, o ne bereka jang. Kana gongwe re tswetse bojelo jwa dipitsi wa nna … di setse di siile, gore it might have been a good idea, but somebody else beat us to it, and they ripped the majority HONOURABLE MEMBER: Healy, mookamedi ke benefit that was there. Jaanong we have arrived at the mang? situation e e leng gore sa rona ke gore madi a a tswa MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Mookamedi wa fela, the benefit e re neng re e batla by setting up the lefatshe la Botswana. Le o botsa ngwana yo o kwa IFSC, e fetilwe ke dinako. Jaanong ke kopa gore o re primary gore mookamedi wa lefatshe la Botswana ke akanyetse mongwame, o tle go re tsenyetsa puisanyo e e mang, o tlaa go bolelela. Jaanong Rre Matsheka mo tseneletseng, le rona re go botse dipotso, re go ngangise gongwe ke go intsha ditlhong fela mongwame, o se ka gore kgang e ya free exchange controls, has it ever wa nna o iteega tsebe thata ka dipuo tse di kgobang ka worked, is it working now. gore motho o a bo a tshaba fela gore a re nnyaa, tota nako tse di fetileng o kile wa supa kwa o yang teng, Mongwame, ke batla ke ye kwa go e ya evasion. Ba jaanong gongwe re galala lebelo la gago. Gona le gore e buile ba le bantsi Mapalamente. Madi a mantsi rra o re nnyaa, mme ke galala lebelo le re tsamayang ka a a tshwanetseng gore a bo a le mo dipateng tsa gago lone kwa o batlang go re isa teng, ke tlaabo ke batla go through BURS a a sa gorogeng kwa go wena. So you nyatsa se se sha fa. Ke sa bue gore nnyaa mme selo se se need to strengthen lephata le la BURS; strengthen their balances dingwe tse ke neng ke lela ka tsone mo nakong investigation capability and expertise. Mo dinakong tse e e fetileng. re tshelang ka tsone, botsipa jwa go fitlha dipoelo le madi ka bo one fela mo kgwebong, jaaka go na le dikgang tse HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga se gore o feletswe di ntseng di buiwa gantsintsi tsa transfer pricing, I think Healy?

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MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Wynter, a ko o iketle jaanong ga a sa tlhole a na le mathata ao. Motho yo o ya mogolole ke wele, ke go file sebaka, ke santse ke boka go kgona go romela sukitshana kwa go mmaagwe kwa mogolole fa. Ga ke molato gore ke wena Minister of gae, le go tlhokomela ngwana wa gagwe yo o setseng le Finance, Minister of Education, Chancellor of the mmaagwe kwa age. You are not detached from the lives Exchequer, Foreign Affairs, eo ga se kgang yame rra… of the ordinary Motswana, that I know for a fact.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Agriculture. Ke ne ke re ka a kalo mongwame re tlaa nna re ntse gongwe re farologana le wena, but in overall we will MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: …kwa go rona keep on supporting you. Re tlaa go rapelela ka re itse maemo ao a mantsi, a na le ba ba a tshwereng, jaanong gore o akantse Batswana, jaanong if you fail, Batswana ntlogela fela. Ke a ne ke utlwa o lela gore ga o supiwe fail. Ke a tle ke bone bangwe ba eletsa gore gongwe rra, ga o kake wa supiwa gantsi o le nosi, iketle. Ga e ka go se ka ga tsamaya sentle. Fa go sa tsamae sentle, the ke ya re re le 44 mo party ya Domkrag, o bo o batla go bottom line is batho ba ga rona ke bone ba yang go utlwa nna o tsena gantsintsi re ise re tsene. Rre Matsheka, fela manokonoko go re gaisa. Ke a itse gore wena maikaelelo ke batla go go akgola gore rra, tsela re a e bona. a gago ga se go ba utlwisa manokonoko, ke go leka go Kana fa o utlwa re lela o bo o itse gore batlhophi ba a phutha ditsabone o di beye sentle, di aroganngwe sentle, lela, re a bo re ba lelela. Jaanong nako e nngwe e a bo e di dirisiwe sentle. O fitlhela go na le dikgang tse o di se gore re batla go go kgobotletsa, re a bo re tlisa dilelo fitlhelang, jaanong kana fa o tsena o fitlhela go agilwe tsa batlhophi ba rona. O ka dumalana le nna gore le ka fa go neng go agilwe ka teng, wena o na le moalo wa ntswa go ne go tlhokafala gore o oketse fale, o dire eng, gago, ga re o simolole go na le fa o phomang teng and o dire eng fa, ke dinako tse di thata. Koketsego nngwe extend, o baakanye. Unfortunately o tsene ka COVID, le nngwe e o ka e dirang ga gona yo o ka e amogelang so those things cannot be easy. I thank you Mr Speaker. bonolo, jaanong seo re tshwanetse go tshela le sone. Ka “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP” o tsere maitlamo mongwame, ke bone senepe sa gago, I am going to post it kgantele mo Facebook, o tsaya MR SPEAKER (MR PULE): Thank you Honourable maitlamo maabanyane fela jaana. Ka o tsere maitlamo, Member. Good afternoon Honourable Members. The o ikanne gore o tlile go direla lefatshe le, times are next speaker will be Honourable Lucas, who will be difficult, it is a very challenging time. Ke dumela gore ba followed by Honourable Leuwe. ba fetileng pele ga gago mongwame, former Chancellors of the Exchequer, kana ba ditsala tsa rona ba shadow, MR LUCAS (BOBONONG): Thank you very much ba rata maemo a ga Mmamosadinyana. Ke batla gore Mr Speaker. Ke simolole fela ka go supa gore Rre le wena ke go a beye ke re former Chancellors of the Matsheka o tlile ka pampiri ya makgetho e e tlaabong Exchequer ba ba fetileng pele ga gago, it is not very e rurifatsa se maloba jalo ke kileng ka se bua when many of them who were to take the reigns go le thata responding to the budget. Ke supe seo fela ka go supa jaaka go le thata jaana. Obviously re tlile gore re tsena gore mo tshimologong ya pampiri ya gago, Section 2 fa rra re bo re omana, but I believe, I know you know (g) e le sesupo fela ke ise ke tsene mo dipolotiking tsa what you are doing and I trust you have got the right makgetho, ke supe gore fa motho a reka seruiwa sa gago team kwa o berekang teng. I believe you want to take e ka nna kgomo, podi, nku, a reka gore a tle a ye go di this country where it is supposed to go. Mongwame, bolaya a kgone go rekisa nama eo, motho yo o rekang o ngwana wa kwa Peleng, you know the hardships of your na le lekgetho le a le tsayang mo go wena yo o rekisang. black African yo o goletseng mo mafelong a rona a bo Lekgetho leo le supa gore le ka babalela the small man Boikhutso, Maruapula le Tsholofelo South. Ke a tle ka gore, fa o rekisa o le farmer ya dikgomo di le five, ke utlwe batho ba batla go go tshwantshanya le batho go raya gore fa o ya go rekisa kwa mmelareng kana ba ba setlhogo mo Batswaneng. Ga ke nke ke dumela feedlot, o tsaya lekgetho le le ka tshwanang 4 per cent, dikgang tseo ka gore ke itse gore o itse matshelo a batho e nna lekgetho la bofelo, kana wena madi a gago ga a mo gae and ga o ka ke wa dira sepe sa go batla go ba ka ke a ya go goroga kwa go P48, 000. Go raya gore thatafaletsa matshelo. O a bo o dira se se tlhokang gore ga o balelwe mo bathong ba ba kgethang, go raya gore o se dire go tsamaisa lefatshe le mongwame. I just want jaanong lekgetho leo le tsewa e le final tax mo go wena. to say, maloba o ne o loma, gompieno o a fodisa, re Ga o kitla o kgona go le claim gape, butcher, feedlotter lebogela go fodisa mo ga gago. Jaaka motho yo o neng kana ope fela mmerala o le isa kae, moo gongwe go a amogela P4, 000 yo o ntseng a babalelwa ke lekgetho, ka tswa go itse Rre Matsheka. Kana gone mo go raya

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gore o a ikganetsa Rre Matsheka, fa e le gore o tsaya tseelwa madi a mantsi gotwe ke makgetho. Ke re mme lekgetho mo mothong wa dikgomo di le five a rekisitse foo o ne o bua nnete, ka gore eo ke political philosophy e le nngwefela as per Section 2 (g), go raya gore motho ya lona ya Domkrag, kana ga se gore e ntšha. E tshwana yoo kana income ya gagwe ka ngwaga ga e tshware le ya ba bangwe mo mafatsheng a mangwe ba ba P48, 000. Gongwe income ya gagwe ka ngwaga e ka dumelang jaaka lona. A re ye kwa America, fa re le nna ya nna P10, 000, but still motho yoo o a kgetha. Ke koo the republicans ke lesika la lona fa go tsena mo tsaya gore o utlwa kgang eo Rre Matsheka, farmer e na dikgannyeng tsa makgetho. Fa re tsena kwa England e dikgomo di le ten kwa Molalatau, e na le di le five kwa the consecutives ke lesika la lona ga fo tsena mo go Mathathane kana Motlhabaneng, fa a rekisa kgomo go tsa makgetho. Fa go tsena mo go tsa makgetho nako nna le lekgethonyana le o le tsayang as per Section 2 (g). le nako the republicans le the consecutives kwa United Gone moo ka bogone go supa gore the small farmer wa Kingdom(UK), o tlaa lemoga gore makgetho a bone a dikgomo tse di palo e e kwa tlase, yo o rekisang tse pedi, sokamela kwa go reng ba kgethise batho ba ba fa gare tse tharo ka ngwaga mme madi a gagwe a sa kgone go le ba ba kwa tlase. goroga kwa go P48, 000, go raya gore o a kgetha, mme Ba ba kwa godimo gantsi ba bona tax breaks ka gore ke o ntse o re batho ba ba P48, 000 or below ka ngwaga ga mofuta wa dipolotiki tsa bone. ba kgethe. Kgang e e tsamaya e nthuta sengwe ka wena, ka gore the big farmer e tlaare fa ngwaga o fela he will Fa o ntse o le gone kwa America, party ya bo Obama le submit tax returns. If he submits the tax returns go raya ya Labour kwa UK, o tlaa fitlhela gantsi ba re ba batla go gore lekgetho la gagwe le kgona gore le ka mmoela kana tsaya lekgetho le lentsi kwa bathong ba ba itsholetseng la nna bontlha bongwe jwa tuelo ya gago ya makgetho. gore ba tle ba kgone go thusa ba ba kobo dikhutshwane. Ba ganelela thata kwa go tseyeng lekgetho le lentsi kwa Rre Matsheka leba kgang e sentle, ke mo mosepeleng bathong ba ba nang le madi a mantsi. Ke thulaganyo ya wa go go sekaseka sentle gore golo fa wa re o ikaelela sepolotiki seo. A re se ka ra gakgamalela Rre Matsheka go dira eng ka batho ba ba senang itsholelo e e kalokalo. a sokametse kwa the big farmer mo kgannyeng e ke O lebega o na le go ba gataka fela ke re, mme se ke sone neng ke e bua a batla go gatelela le go tlobelela the sekai fela sa ntlha sa gore ela tlhoko Section 2 (g) e e small farmer. Ke thulaganyo ya polotiki ya bone e re leng gore fa motho a reka seruiwa sa gago go raya gore sa tshwanelang go e gakgamalela ka gore lekgetho le a o tsaya lekgethonyana le e leng gore ga le kgathalesege itlhophelwa. Ba ba busang ba itlhophetse gore lekgetho gore o na le dikgomo di le kae. E bile ga le kgathalesege la bone le tlile go nna pro-wealthy people. Ke gore le tlaa gore mo ngwageng o ya go dira madi a le kae. Bontsi neneketsa batho ba ba humileng fa o ba tshwantshanya jwa farmers tsa Botswana ke ba ba nang le dikgomo di le ba ba humanegileng. Ke choice e e dirwang ya le less than 20 mme ka ngwaga ba rekisa dikgomo di sa sepolotiki. Go na le batho ba ba dumelang gore go raya fete bobedi. Ke yone income ya bone, mme batho bao gore e a bo e le phosonyana fela. Nnyaa, ga se phoso. ba a kgetha mo Botswana. Ke re ela tlhoko seemo seo Polotiki ya bo Rre Matsheka, polotiki ya Domkrag ke motho wetsho, ke lekgetho le le ka sokodisang the small yone e e reng batho ba ba kwa godimo o tshwanetse wa farmer. The big farmer o na le option ka gore lekgetho ba neneketsa ka gore fa o sa ba neneketse, ba tlaa tloga la withholding tax is not the final tax, o tlaa tswelela a ba tsamaya ka madi a bone. Bontsi jwa bone ga se ba ka le bona fa a tsweletse jaanong submitting returns. Ela ba ka yang gope. Ba tlile go tshwanelwa ke gore ba nne tlhoko kgang e motho wetsho. gone fa, businesses tsa bone di gone fa. E bile gongwe kwa mafatsheng a mangwe ga ba ka ke ba kgona go dira Ke tle ke tsene mo dikgannyeng tsa lekgetho, fa gongwe business ka gore kwano bangwe ba bone ba e dira ka batho ba kgona go gakgamala gore ke eng le nna favours. Ga se gore ke bo business people ba ba nang ka mofuta o le ntseng ka one. Ke batla go supa gore, le tlhwatlhwa e e kwa godimo. Re tshwanetse ra ela se bagaetsho, a re farologanyeng gore lekgetho ka bolone tlhoko ra se itse. le supa mofuta wa polotiki e o dumelang mo go yone. Maloba Rre Matsheka o kile a batla go bua sengwe, Fa e le gore gongwe batho ba batla makgetho a a kana ke motho o a itebala gakere o kile a nna academic babalelang batho ba ba kwa tlase, re tshwanetse ra itse fa gongwe a re o dira analysis. Se se diragalang ke gore, gore jaanong setšhaba sa Botswana se tshwanetse go o ne a supa gore political philosophy ya bone tota ga e sekaseka dipolotiki tsa rona, se itse gore fa o batla go dumalane le gore batho ba bilediwe mo Botswana, mme babalelwa ke lekgetho, go raya gore o bo o tlhopha babusi e bo e re go ntse go tsweletswe ka gore ke bahumi ba ba gompieno. Fa o batla lekgetho le le itebagantseng le

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bahumi, o tshwanetse wa tlhopha parties tsa mofuta yo o amogelang P480, 000 and above, upper tax rate wa rona tse di ka bidiwang gotwe progressive parties ya gagwe e nne 30 per cent, you can still recover madi kgotsa parties tse di ka fa molemeng mo sepolotiking ao. Mongwe le mongwe yo o amogelang P960, 000, ke sa lefatshe. Fa o tsweletse o tlhopha Domkrag, go a gore 20 times more than P48, 000 a bo a kgona gore a supagala gore makgetho a tlile go babalela wena yo o kgethe gore tax rate ya gagwe e nne 40 per cent, you tlhophang, mme... can still get the money. Ba teng batho ba ba amogelang madi ao. Re tlhola re utlwa batho ba ipoka gotwe kwa HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification! dishopong tse dingwe tse di tona motho o amogela P1 MR SPEAKER: Honourable Lucas, Honourable million ka kgwedi. Batho bao ke bone ba tshwanetseng Leader of the House is asking for clarification. gore tax rate ya bone e e kwa godimo e nne 40 per cent. Fa o rialo, o tlaa kgona go bona madi a a tlaa go dirang MR LUCAS: Leader of the House, ke tlaa go neela kwa gore kwa tlase jaanong o dire gore ba ba P84, 000 and bofelong motho wetsho. Kana o mogolo o tshwanetse below ba se ka ba kgetha. Ga ke re latlha sengwe le wa neelwa. sengwe fela o se ka wa bona madi. O a utlwa gore ka re o ka bona madi kae Rre Matsheka? O a bo o tlile gore Re tshwanetse ra ela dilo tse tsotlhe tlhoko ra itse gore kwa morago o bo o re kana a re jaanong ga go batliwe fa re ka se ka ra di ela tlhoko re bo re tsaya fela gore go madi, rona ga re batle gotlhelele, ga re itse gore re ya raya gore Rre Matsheka ke gore gongwe o rata batho go tsaya kae madi a ditlhabololo. Nnyaa, ga re rialo Rre thata, nnyaa, o tshwanetse wa itse o le motlhophi kwa o Matsheka. Ra re madi a o neng o ka a bona mo go bone tlaabong o le teng gore parties tsa mofuta wa Domkrag, ba ba P84, 000 and below o ka a bona a le mantsi kwa ke tsone tse di kgethisang batho ba ba kwa tlase thata go ba ba amogelang P480, 000 and above le ba P960, gona le ba ba kwa godimo. Ke ka fa thulaganyo ya bone 000 above ka ngwaga. Ke tsaya gore o e utlwa sentle e ntseng ka teng e re tshwanetseng go e itse e ntse jalo. Rre Matsheka. Bothata e ka nna kgang e o neng wa e So, lekgetho go ya ka rona ka kwano ba Umbrella for bua maloba o re go na le political philosophy. Ke yone Democratic Change (UDC) le ka dirisiwa go lwantsha fela e ka go kgoreletsang. Fa e le gore ga e ka ke ya go inequality, dipharologanyo tsa bahumi le bahumanegi, kgoreletsa, leba kgang e, e sekaseke gape o bone gore a mme jaanong ka kwa babusing ba gompieno, lekgetho mme ga o ka ke wa kgona gore batho bao o oketse tax le dirisiwa go oketsa dipharologanyo tsa bahumi le rate ya bone. bahumanegi. Gone moo ka bogone re tshwanetse ra Go na le lekgetho gape Rre Matsheka le ke itseng gore go itse. Lekgetho le ka dirisiwa go neela bahumanegi ga o ka ke wa dumalana le lone. Ka ke go itse o tsena itsholelo ka fa rona re bonang ka teng, mme jaanong kereke, ke raya la wealth tax. Fa gongwe go a tlhokafala ka fa bo Rre Matsheka ba bonang ka teng, bahumanegi gore le kale dithoto tsa batho gore motho yo o na le ba ka nna ba sokola ka fa ba ka sokolang ka teng. They dithoto tse le sa di kgethiseng le bo le ka baya a flat tax must pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Kana golo gore motho fa a na le dithoto tse di fetang bokana, a bo fa botshelo bo thata, ba tshwanetse ba iperekela ba bona a ka kgethisiwa 5 or 10 per cent. Re ka bona madi a a gore ba dira jang. Rona ga re dumele jalo. Re dumela gore lekgetho le le tshwanetse gore fa e le sengwe, le bonalang gone foo. Mafatshe a mangwe a dirisa wealth babalele ba e keteng ba ntse ba na le letseno gale. Fa tax. Ke a itse gore e e ka nna ya nna mathata a political o kgethisa ba ba nang le letseno gale, go raya madi a o philosophy gakere Rre Matsheka e o tleng o e dire. Le a bonang a nna botokanyana. Fa o kgethisa motho yo nna ke dumalana jalo gore political philosophy e e ka o amogelang thata ka tax rate e e fa godimonyana, o nna ya dira bothata. Ke tlaa le neela kwa bofelong, le bona madi a a botoka thata gona le fa o kgethisa yo o tlaa ikakola metsotso e meraro ya bofelo. kwa tlase. Fa e le sengwe go ka paledisa political philosophy Rre Matsheka, mma re go bolelele gore fa o ne o oketsa gore batho ba kgethisiwe wealth tax. Go na le batho gore jaanong ba ba P48, 000 or below ba se ka ba ba ba itsholetseng thata mono ba ba nang le mafatshe kgetha, ke amogela kgang eo, mme o santse o ntse o a matona a ba a diriseng, mme when valued e bo e le ise o ye gope. O santse o ntse o ka oketsa gongwe wa gore you impose lekgetho gone foo. Re ka bona madi a ya kwa go P84, 000. Madi a a tlaabong a go latlhegela, a ka tlhabololang ditsela tsa bo Lepokole, Mothabaneng o ka a bona ka kwa bahuming fa e le gore o ka oketsa le Mathathane-Platjan. Re ka bona madi ao. Bothata jo tax rate ya bone. Fa o a oketsa gore mongwe le mongwe bo tona ke gore fa motho a go gakolola gore o dire jalo,

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ga o ka ke wa dumela ka mathata a political philosophy. na le madi a a senyegang in mismanagement fela. Batho E bile ke go lemogile gore fa motho a go gakolola ka ba bangwe are overcharging tenders ba duelwa ka madi dikgang tse, fa gongwe o nna bogale. Ke kile ka bona a makgetho a rona. Gone moo ka bogone go itsapisa o galefela Honourable Reatile thata. O ne o le bogale batho ba bangwe go kgetha. Le tshwanetse le go lebe thata a re o leka go go gakolola. Ke tlaa go gakolola fela thata Rre Matsheka gore e se ka ya re kwa morago batho le fa o le bogale gore rra a re lebelele thata kwa go ba ba ba itsapa go kgetha, ba itsapisiwa ke go bona makgetho kwa godimonyana re ba kgethise wealth tax ka gore ba a bone a sa thuse lefatshe la Botswana, jaanong a jewa beile mafatshe a mantsintsi a ba tshwanetseng gore ba a ntsoma ke batho ba bangwe. kgethele mme ba sa a kgethele. Se sengwe ke gore, batho ba ka rotloetsega go kgetha fa e Ke tswelele motho wetsho ke re kana go na le gore batho le gore ditlhabololo tsa rona can be distributed equitably ba kgatlhegele go kgetha ke fa go diragala eng. Go na le around the country. Fa re ipona re ntse re kgetha kwa batho ba bangwe ba ba setseng ba sa batle go kgetha mo Bobonong le Gobojango, mme ditlhabololo kwa go Botswana ba itsapa ba akanya gore gore... rona di tla ka bonya, hey! o fitlhela re nna le slowdown sa go kgetha. Ao bathong! kana mme ditlhabololo rona HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… ga re di bone. O re o lebelela National Development MR SPEAKER: Honourable Lucas Dr Gobotswang is Plan (NDP) 11, o fitlhela e le gore tsotlhe tsa botsogo; asking for elucidation. sepatela se setona sa Bobonong ga seyo, clinic ya kwa Borotsi ga e yo, kwa Tsetsebjwe go ne gotwe Level 1 MR LUCAS: Ee. Yoo kana ka gore o paletswe ke Primary Hospital, ga go yo. Kgantele o ipotsa gore, ditlhopho lebaka le le leele, mma ke mo neele, o a itse kante gatwe tsone di isiwa kae, rona lekgetho la rona gore o tshwanetse gore go kgethisiwe. le bereka eng. Ke dilo tse o tshwanetseng go di leba Rre Matsheka; equitable distribution of resources, e ka MR SPEAKER: Honourable Gobotswang, go ahead. thusa batho gore ba nne le phisego ya go kgetha. E re le DR GOBOTSWANG: Point of elucidation. Ke a leboga fa o ba rotloetsa, ba ye go kgetha. Mr Speaker. Honourable Lucas, ke utlwa sentle gore o e Sa bofelo se ke reng gongwe o se ka wa se lebala ke gore, tshwere sentle fa o bua ka ditumelo tsa sepolotiki. Ke ne ruta batho lekgetho gore le tsamaya jang. Fa gongwe ba ke ntse ke setse ke lebeletse gone foo. Ke ne ke gakwa bangwe ga ba kgethe, ka gore ga ba le tlhaloganye. Ke ke gore kante ke eng bo Rre Matsheka ba kgethisa batho dumalana le Section 5 gore, bangwe ga ba tlhaloganye le fa ba setse ba tlogetse tiro ka bogodi? Kgang e ke gore lekgetho le tsamaya jang, ba felela ba sa kgethe. ne ke setse ke e ipotsa. Ke ne ke setse ke lebetse foo Ba tlaa bona fela motho a tla a kokota kwa go bone, a ba raya a re o kolota lekgetho, o re o a botsa gore o raya gore kana batho ba ke ba sepolotiki sa mofuta o sele. Ke lefe, e bo e le gone o tlhalosediwang. Re rute lekgetho gore le o setse o tlogetse tiro ka bogodi o kgethile o o motho wetsho, le rona re le Mapalamente letsatsi lengwe bereka, fa o tlogela tiro ka bogodi ba ntse ba go kgethisa o re tlhatlhele ka room nngwe… Honourable Healy o a fela. Kgang e e ...(interruption)… O e tshwere sentle, o bona gore go timetswe tota. O re tlhatlhele fela o re rute, e lomagantse sentle honourable. Ke a leboga. kana o bitse ene wa BURS a tle a re rute. Ke ne ka bona gore o timetse, ke bona jaanong a go boka fela a tlogetse MR LUCAS: Ke a leboga comrade. Ga re a tshwanela lekgetho, a boka wena fela, ka bona gore owaaii! O go sokodisiwa ke polotiki mo go kana re sena go tsena feletswe. Rra, re rute ka lekgetho... mo Palamenteng re bo re sa buelele batho. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O a ntlhasela? Ke ne ke le mo kgannyeng e ya gore kana go na le ya gore batho ba bangwe ba setse ba itsapa go kgetha. Ba MR LUCAS: Vice President (VP) o ne a kopile gore itsapa go kgetha ka gore ga ba dumele gore madi a bone go na le golo gongwe fa a neng a batla go tlhalosa teng. Mma ke mo neele, ke tle ke mo utlwe. a dirisiwa sentle. Rre Matsheka o ne a bua maloba a re go na le 37 per cent wa madi that is going to waste. We MR SPEAKER: Honourable Leader of the House, the are not getting value for our money. Jaanong fa o utlwa floor is yours. go tualo o le mokgethi o kgetha, a mme o raya gore o ka nna le phisego ya go tsamaya gape o re o ya go HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR kgetha? Go nna thata. Go na le madi a a senyegang mo TSOGWANE): Tsamaiso ya Palamente ke gore, fa tshenyetso-setšhabeng e e nnang e buiwa ka metlha. Go motho a kopa tlhaloso, o a bo a kopa tlhaloso mo go se

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o se buang se santse se le fresh mo mind wa gago gore ya sone. Nako ya gore o tsenye 2 per cent wa VAT o a o tle o kgone go se tlhalosa. Fa e le e ya gompieno e mo tsenya, nako ya gore o bone gore tota setlhako se se motho a emang a re ke tlaa go neela kwa bofelong, a babaletse ba thata, ke gore ke se tsholetse ke se ise fa bo a tlhoka le yone nako ya gore o ka tlhalosa, ga e nne godimonyana, le gone o a dira. Ke jone boikarabelo joo mosola le mo setšhabeng. Setšhaba se tshwanetse se itse motho wa gaetsho, jo o neng e re fa o tsaya boikarabelo fela gore fa o kopile tlhaloso, o a e neelwa gore e re fa jwa ministry o, wa supa gore ga e ka ke ya nna business o e tlhalosetswa motho a bo a gakologelwa se a neng a as usual. O supile jalo ka botlalo, le dikgato tsa gago di se bua. mpontsha gore o gatela gone koo.

Rre Lucas, tlhaloso e ke neng ke e batla ke ya go Lekgetho le tswa kgakala, ke gakologelwa gore fa ke tsaya lekgetho, o bo o tshwantshanya dipharologanyo le mo sepodiseng, go ne go na le batho ba le babedi ba tsa sepolotiki ka lekgetho. A mme tota o a bo o le mo ba neng ba tla e le audit query, e tswa from Ministry of boammaaruring motlotlegi motlhalefi yo o badileng Finance e ya kwa ofising ya rona, each a kolota R3, dibuka, yo o rutileng kwa university? Fa gotwe political mme e bile re setse re dirisa Pula, ke ipotsa gore re ya ideologies tsa diphathi, a o ya go re farologanya? Lona le go batla R3 jang, ka gore re dirisa Pula jaanong. Fa ke farologana le phathi ya Domkrag ka political ideologies re ke lebelela dingwaga tsa motho yo o neng a kolota fa kae, ka gore makgetho a gape fa o tla o kgobokanya lekgetho yo, ka ipotsa gore re ya go mmona kae, ka gore tse Puso e thusang ka tsone, subsidies tse e di neelang dingwaga tse di fetile gongwe e bile le go tlhokafala o ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane go sena cost recoveries mo setse a tlhokafetse. Ka bo ka itlhoboga ka nna fa fatshe dilong tse dintsi… mongwe o ne a bua ka go tsenya ka bona gore nnyaa, a re batleng P3 fa e le P3, bogolo sekole from primary go ya kwa university. Tseo jaanong re ye go duelelela batho ba, ka gore ga ke dumele gore o di baya fa kae, fa ideology ya gago e remeletse fela mo ba santse ba le teng mo botshelong. E le audit query ya go reng fa go kgethisiwa ba, go raya gore ke sephathi? lekgetho, go supa gore re tswa kgakala re dira ditiro ka Nnyaa, a re tlogeleng sephathi, ka gore ga gona le fa e le lekgetho. Ga le simolole fa. pharologanyo e o ka e bayang ya political ideology, ka tsela e o batlang go e dira eo. Ke batla go go leboga Rre Matsheka gore, o bo o bone gore setlhako se se babaletse batho ba ba amogelang MR LUCAS: Ga ke bue sephathi, ke bua sepolotiki. P3,000 go ya fa go P4,000 fale, o bo o tsholeletsa fa Wena ke gore jaanong o sianetse kwa sephathing. Ke godimo. Mongwe o ka tsaya gore go go nnyennyane, bua sepolotiki gore sepolotiki sa rona se a farologana... but fa o lebelela batho ba ba amogelang foo ba bantsi mo ke dumelang gore fa ba leng teng ke hallelujahs fela MR SPEAKER: Honourable Lucas, your time is up. mo go bone, e bile le se se tseneng mo go bone, go ya ka Honourable Leuwe, the floor is yours. bone ke sengwe gona le se gongwe mongwe motho a ka MR LEUWE (TAKATOKWANE): Ke a leboga akanyang gore se ne se tshwanetse gore se nne jalo. Ke Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Tlaa ke go gakgamalela mokaulengwe yo o sa tswang go tswa gore, leboge rraetsho, gore ke bo ke bone motsotsonyana wa lekgetho la gago le babalela thata… o kgethisa batho ba ba amogelang kwa tlase, mme gompieno o tlisitse go buisa this Income Tax (Amendment) Bill. Tshutiso e e supang gore ba ba amogelang kwa tlase, Go boammaaruri fela jaaka bontsi jwa batlotlegi ba o a ba okeletsa gore ba se ka ba kgetha, ba tswe mo tlhalositse; lekgetho le tswa kgakala e bile le teng lekgethong. O oketsa palo ya batho ba ba sa kgetheng, gongwe le gongwe, bogolo jang mo lefatsheng ka go bo gotwe nnyaa, o thibeletse mo go bone ba ba sa bophara. Bontsi jwa mafatshe if not 100 per cent, 90 per amogeleng sepe. Ga ke itse gore a golo fa re a go bona, cent ya mafatshe a dira ditlhabololo tsa one ka lekgetho. re a go lemoga e bile re a go tlhaloganya. Ke eletsa gore le fa go ntse jalo, ke supe fela ka botlalo Ke dumela gore o gata sentle rra, Roma ga a agiwa gore Rre Matsheka, ke ema Tshutiso ya gago nokeng, letsatsi le le lengwefela, go tsamaile fela jalo go fitlhelela ka gore ga go sepe se re ka se kgonang kwa ntle ga a bo a ya go agiwa a felela. Ke dumela gore fa setlhako go dira lekgetho. Batho ba le bantsi maloba ba ne ba se nnang botlhoko teng, o tlaa tsena o thusa, ka gore ga go bona o le motho yo o setlhogo thata, mo o senang gona Motswana ope yo o sa dueleng lekgetho. Le ene yo kutlwelobotlhoko le fa go rileng, but mo bogompienong o leng kwa bofelong jwa lefatshe, fa a ya kwa shopong o supa gore ga se kgang ya gore o setlhogo jaaka fela a ya go reka, o duela VAT. Ke go supa gore lekgetho mongwe a akanya. O dira sengwe le sengwe ka nako le teng, rotlhe re a kgetha e bile le tshwanetse go re ama

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rotlhe, fela jaaka re eletsa gore ditlhabololo di re ame a ne a bua ka 4 per cent, ke dumalana le ene, bogolo rotlhe, and Batswana ke batho ba ba ratang go ikgatlha jang ka gore 4 per cent o o ka kwa temothuong e re ka gore dilo tse… fa a bona motho yo mongwe a sa eletsang gore re e godise, re e rotloetse, mme o babalela dirise selo sentle e le sa Puso, o a bua fela a papametse a balemi thata. Keletso ke gore e re fa morui a ya go rekisa re, “rra, o a re senyetsa, golo mo ke makgetho a rona,” a kgomo ya gagwe, a bone sheleng wa gagwe a tla fela a bua nnete Batswana ba a kgetha, e a bo e le makgetho a ntse jaaka a ntse. E lebe, o e lebisise sentle, o bo o bone bone. Ba motlotlo thata, ka gore ba a bo ba kgetha, mme gore a ga se tsotlhe tsa temothuo tse gongwe o ka di keletso ya bone ke gore fa ba fetsa go kgetha ba boe ba seegelang fa thoko mo lekgethong, fela jaaka gompieno bone dipoelo tsa makgetho a bone. o dirile ka income tax.

Fa ke ntse ke tswelela le dikgang tse, ke belaela gore Ke eletsa gore o ele tlhoko kgang e e neng e buiwa ke ofisi ya gago e tshwanetse e tlhwaafale Rre Matsheka, Honourable Keorapetse. Go na le batho who dodge e pateletse gore mogwebi mongwe le mongwe yo o lekgetho, e se gore ga ba le duele ka gore ga ba itse gore tswang ka kwa ntle fela fa a bula kgwebo mo Botswana, le a duelwa, ke gore ba bone loopholes tsa gore ba ka le a tsenye machine a bo a patelediwe gore a banke madi, dodge ka tsela e e ntseng jang. So fa re ka ema ka dinao, ka gore ga ba a banke. One cannot swipe, mo gongwe o ra bona gore BURS re a e nonotsha, re senka loopholes tlaa utlwa gotwe you cannot swipe tse, tse dingwe you tse re a di thiba tsa lekgetho. Fa o ka tsaya sekai fela can swipe. Gakere motho o itse gore if they use Point of Honourable Dr Matsheka, ke fela jaaka maloba re ne Sale service, go raya gore lekgetho le tlaa tsena, go tlaa re bona BURS e boloditse letsholo le le bogale thata supafala gore tota golo foo o dira bokae. Kgang ya teng mo dikoloing tsa gompieno tse gotweng ke imports. Di e nna gore ba iphitlhele lekgetho, mme tse di tsenang gapiwa, di tsewa, e le gore kgang fa re ntse re e utlwa tsone di le dintsi. e ne e le gore ba ne ba kgonne go bona phatlhanyana ya to manoeuvre lekgetho. Jaanong if we guard against Fa re ka dira Clause fela e e supang gore fela fa o bula all these things, fa re ka bala madi otlhe a dikoloi tsone madirelo o tswa ka kwa ntle, thulaganyo ke e, go tlaa tseo, o ka bona gore golo foo re ntse re latlhegelwa ke itshupa kana when you swipe, fa ba banka go tlaa supafala madi fela a mantsintsi thata. Go ne gotwe fa ba tsena gore a mme tota ba goroga kwa ba tshwanetseng gore ba kwa, ba fokotsa price ya koloi gore lekgetho le ye kwa ntshe lekgetho ka teng. Fa re sa dira jalo, ba tlaa tswelela tlase, fa a tsena ka kwano, o boa a pega price ele, a bo a ba dira ka tsela e e leng gore ga re kitla re bona lekgetho, dira mark-up, go bo go raya gore jaanong Motswana o re tsile go latlhegelwa ke lekgetho le madi a mantsi thata swa leso, mme kwa gone go sa kgethiwa ka fa go neng a a neng a ka cover gore o oketse kgang e ya ba ba sa go tshwanetse gore go kgethwe ka teng. kgetheng. Ke dumela gore o dirile, but it is not enough, ke dumela ka fa ke go bonang ka teng, le ka fa ke go Selo se sengwe se ke eletsang gore gongwe re se lebelele itseng ka teng, o tlaa boa o tsholetsa fa seemo se go letla thata gape, ke to guard against losses tsele tsa 37 per re ntse re tsweletse le botshelo. cent. Motswana o itumela thata fa a kgetha, mme a bona gore o kgethela eng. Fa e re a kgetha a bo a utlwa gore Batho ba dishopo ba utlwisa botlhoko ka gore pelaelo go na le golo gongwe fa madi a tšhwamolang teng, ga ke gore bone le fa ba dira price, ba tsenya mark-up wa go mo tseye sentle. E bile go a mo itsapisa, o ipotsa gore lekgetho, o tlaa utlwa go ntse gotwe tax-tax, o ipotsa a mme ke tshela metsi mo tankeng e e dutlang o kare gore tax-tax ya eng e o sa kgoneng to swipe, o bo o ke kwa mental. Kopo ke gore if we can guard against bona gore go raya gore golo fa sengwe se a diragala se this 37 per cent wa the losses, Batswana ba tlaa bona e seng sone. Ke ka leboga thata fa re ka pateletsa gore ditlhabololo. E bile ke dumela gore madi a otlhe a 37 ba itse gore nngwe ya Clauses tse di mo letlang gore per cent, a ne a ka dira tsela e e tswang mo Letlhakeng a run business mo Botswana, o patelesega gore a nne e ya Kaudwane. A ne a ka ya go tlhabolola clinics tse le machine le account, go bo go bonwe le gore madi a di kwa Tsetseng, Dutlwe, a dira le ditsela tse dintsintsi tsena jang. Mo gongwe this thing can guard even against fela tse di tlhokang go dirwa mo Botswana. Jaanong go kgang ya money laundering e re sa itseng gore gatwe go tlhokafala thata gore re... tsamaya jang. E ka re thusa mo dilong tse dintsi. MR MOTAOSANE: On a point of elucidation. Thank Kopo ya me e nngwe ke gore Rre Matsheka, lebelela you Honourable Speaker. Thank you Honourable thata dithoto tse di tshwanang le tsa agriculture, o tsenye Leuwe. Ke itumela thata dintlha tse o di ntshang tseo. leitlho thata mo go tsone. Fela jaaka Honourable Lucas Ke ne ke re go na le fa o neng o bua teng ka ba ba

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dodge go duela lekgetho ba le kwa dishopong. Tona o dilo tse tsa tlhamaladiwa, ba bo ba bolelelwa gore kwa mo lemotshe gore kana e bile ba bangwe ba le dodge madirelong, ke kwa madirelong, go na le kwa go nang mo go feteletseng ka gore they are not even staying in le boroko teng. Kana ba a bo ba avoid gore a se ka a anybody’s house, ba nna mo go one madirelo a a bone. ya go duela ntlo e gongwe a tlaabong a e hirisa, a itse Ba nna moo, ke gore ke madirelo e bile ke boroko. Mo gore fa a nna gone foo, ke gore o duela rent ya business, go rayang gore le fa a ne a ka bo a nna kwa ntlong ya mme gape e bile ke boroko mo teng. Ke tsone tse ke ga Reatile, go bo go supafala gore o duela bokae, o dira reng we must guard against them. Ke ka leboga thata gore go nne jaaka o kare yole le ene o dodge lekgetho fa Tona a ka ela dilo tseo tlhoko thata ka gore fa ba ka gore ga ba tlhomame, ba nna mo teng ga factories tse bona phatlhanyana ba a e tsena and ba tlaa e dirisa ba e ba rekisetsang mo go tsone, ke gone to dodge lekgetho ngamola, ba e bula le go feta. la income le la VAT. Gongwe Tona a akanye gore we have got a lot of graduates, a re hireng bana ba dire Ke dumalana le wena Honourable Kereng. Ke ipotsa debt collection companies, e bo e nna bone ba salang gore fa go santse go na le mongwe yo o reng ga a bone batho ba ba makgetho morago. Ke a leboga Honourable mosola wa lekgetho, o raya jang. E bile fa motho a re rona Member of Parliament (MP). gotlhelele ga go na ditlhabololo, ao bathong! A ko re se ka ra nna re bua se e seng sone. Ga go na ditlhabololo le MR SPEAKER: Honourable Leuwe, there are two gore ditlhabololo di dinnyennyane kgotsa re santse re di other clarifications from Honourable Phildah Kereng tlhaela? Mo Setswaneng fela re a itse gore le fa e le bana and Honourable Greeff. ba gago ba le mo lelwapeng, ga e ka ke ya re botlhe fela ka letsatsi, wa ba rekela ditlhako, borokgwe, dihempe, o MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL rekela yo mongwe ditlhako kgwedi e e tlang, o rekela yo RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM mongwe hempe, e nngwe e e tlang o rekela yo mongwe (MS KERENG): On a point of clarification. Ke a borokgwe. Puso e tshwana fela le lelwapa la motho, o e leboga Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke re Honourable Leuwe, run fela jaaka lelwapa la motho. Letsatsi le lengwe o ya kana Honourable Lucas o sa tswa go bua gore batho ga go aga dikago fela tse di tshwanang le tse Rre Motsamai ba dumele gore a makgetho a a na le mosola ka gore ga a neng a bua ka tsone kwa Charles Hill tse e leng gore ba bone ditlhabololo. Ke ne ke rile le fa o bua gape gore ga di yo kwa go yo mongwe, mme le ene a di tlhoka, kana fa 37 per cent o o senyegang a ka sekwasekwa, but kwa go yo mongwe gone go dirilwe se sengwe. go ka kgonwa gore go baakanngwe ditirelo le ditsela Dilo tse tsotlhe tse, di dirwa ka tax. Le yone tsela e Rre jalo. Ke ne ke re gongwe o tlhalose gore ditlhabololo Motsamai a e batlang gore e tswe koo e ye kwa diofising kana ditirelo tsa Puso tse di subsidised di tshwana le tsa tsele, re a e tlhoka, mme re ka e bona fela ka tax, bogolo thuto, botsogo, temothuo jalo, a ga se gore o tlhalosetse jang tax ya batho ba ba dirang madi a mantsintsi thata. A Batswana gore ke jaaka o bona re kgona gore re re se ka ra bona Honourable Matsheka o kare re tabogile fokoletswe ditlhwatlhwa go bona kalafi, thuto, e le ka thata fa morago ga ba bannyennyane, bo individual, go ntlha ya makgetho ka gore ene a re ga go na se Batswana na le batho ba ba kolotang, ba ba sa dueleng lekgetho. ba se bonang e le mosola wa makgetho? Ke ne ke re Ba kolota madi a mantsintsi thata a a ka dirang ditiro tse gongwe o gatelele foo dilo tse re di bonang le tse re di di bonalang. amogelang ka makgetho. Ke supe gore fa o nna fa fatshe o tsaya ngwana wa MR SPEAKER: Go na le Honourable Greeff. sekole go tswa kwa go Standard 1 go ya go tsena kwa go Standard 7, o lebelela madi a Puso e a dirisang, o …Silence… ka bona gore batsadi ba le bantsi fa kgang ya go duela MR LEUWE: A re mo tlogele, o santse a ipaakanya. Ga e le teng, ba ne ba ka se ka ba isa bana ba bone kwa ke itse gore ke saletswe ke nako e e kana kang. Thank sekoleng. O bo o ya kwa secondary, o ya go fitlhela go you Mr Speaker. Ke dumalana le wena Honourable ntse jalo. Go na le dituelo tse dintsi. Even if Government Motaosane. Ke tsone loopholes tse ke di buang gore has subsidised, a re go duelwe madi a itshetso le eng, re a itse gore ka tshwanelo, kwa madirelong, ke kwa go tsena sekole go dirisiwa madi a mantsi. Go supa madirelong, ga e ka ke ya nna madirelo gape o bo o boa gore makgetho a a re berekela. Makgetho a, ga go na o robala mo teng. Ba a bo ba dira jalo gone ka gore ba ope yo a sa mmerekeleng. Ke sa tswa go tlhalosa gore bone loophole gore ba se ka ba ya go duela makgetho. ga go na ope yo o sa kgetheng mo Botswana kwa ntle Ke sone se ke reng, o kare go ka ntshiwa letsholo fela, ga ba ba iphitlhang ba ke neng ke bua ka bone ba the

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shops. Motswana mongwe le mongwe o a kgetha, e bile ba mafatshe a sele ba tlile go lwantsha batho bagarona go o a boelwa mo makgethong a gagwe. A re netefatseng dira meriri fa station jaaka go buiwa. Bone bao, ke bone gore we guard against ditshenyegelo tse. Di ba utlwisa ba ba tshwanetseng to be targeted. Fa e le gore ba dira botlhoko thata, ga se gore ga ba di itse… meriri, at least ba tlogele letsenonyana lengwe. Batho ba mafatshe a sele ba kgobokanya madi ba a tshwara MR SPEAKER: Honourable Greeff is asking for jaana, ba bo ba a ntsha mo lefatsheng la Botswana ba sa elucidation. tlogela le fa e le thebe. Ba rona ba ba rekisang digaugau, MR LEUWE: Ke setse ka metsotso e kae? eng, ba ba logang, ke eletsa gore re se ka ra ba kgoma gope ka lekgetho. Batho bao ba tshegeditse lefatshe. Rre MR SPEAKER: Three minutes. Matsheka, ke kopa o ba ele tlhoko. Ba se ka ba tloga ba babalelwa ke kgang ya lekgetho. Majority of saloons o MR LEUWE: I yield. fitlhela di tsamaisiwa ke batho ba ba tswang kwa ntle. MR GREEFF: Elucidation Mr Speaker. Thank you Let us target these people. Ba se ka ba tsaya madi a rona Leuwe. E ne e ntse e gana. O e tshwere sentle kgantele. ba a isa ka kwa, go se na sepe se se salang kwano gore Ke go tlatse gore Honourable Matsheka a itse gore go na re sa le le rona re itshutlha dinala. Ke sone se ke reng, le dikompone tse di tona tse di tshwanang le Shell tse di kgang ya lekgetho e o e re beileng pele, molao o ke o dirang billions tsa madi mo Botswana, mme madi a teng ema nokeng. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Thank you. a a tlola a ya South Africa. Kgang ya teng e re a araba, a MR MMOLOTSI (FRANCISTOWN SOUTH): bue gore dikompone tse di tshwanang le tseo, tse di ka Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke simolole ka go supa gore bong di baya madi a tsone kwano, ditsela tsa Gaborone kgang e ya go duedisa lekgetho, ke tsela nngwe e ya Bonnington South le Takatokwane di ka tlhabologa, o go direla lefatshe madi. Re itse mafatshe ka bontsi ya go dira jang ka tsone? Thank you Leuwe. a dira jalo go leka go kokoanyetsa lefatshe madi. Ke MR LEUWE: Ke a leboga Honourable Greeff. O tsena supe gore go kgethisa batho, gantsi go a bo go supa ke santse ke re ke ya go tsena mo go ya bofelo ya lephata gore itsholelo ya lefatshe e palelwa ke go dira madi la ga Honourable Kereng, ya dituelo tse o fitlhelang di ka ditsela tse dingwe tse di faphegileng. Fa o tsena mo duelelwa kwa mafatsheng a sele. A fa go duelwa jalo, a seemong sa go kgethisa batho madi a mantsi, e bo e le lekgetho re a le bona? Fa e le gore ga re le bone, re dira go senkela lefatshe madi ka lebaka la gore, itsholelo ga jang gore re le bone? Fa o bona diofisi tsa bone di nna e direle lefatshe madi. Ke sone se ke batlang go boelela koo, e a bo e le loophole ya gore, ba se ka ba duedisiwa dikgang tse ke tlholang ke di bua le lona Tona tsa gore, lekgetho. Se se utlwisang botlhoko, ba ba theogetseng re tshwanelwa ke gore re emele itsholelo ya lefatshe kwano ba le duela mo go feteletseng. Ke sone se ke reng la Botswana ka dinao. Fa re sa emele go aga itsholelo Rre Matsheka fa a di lebelela, le yone e o ntseng o e ya lefatshe la rona ka dinao, nako le nako fa lefatshe bua ya dikompone tse ke ka sekang ka di bua ka maina, le tšhona jaaka gompieno re tšhonne jaana, go tlaabo di tabogile ka fuel, a lebelele seemo se. A bone gore he go iwa kwa go kgethiseng batho. Le fa re itse gore go targets the big fish. Ke tsone tse di ka kgonang go re kgethisiwa batho ba ba berekang, bontsi jwa nako ga go tsenyetsa lekgetho le le utlwalang. reye gore ba ba sa berekeng ga ba amege.

Ya bofelo e ke e boelelang ke ya gore, a re lebelele Ke batla go go bolelela Tona gore maloba o ne o ditswa-agriculture Rre Matsheka. Ke dumela gore oketsa VAT from 12 per cent to 14 per cent. Re a Motswana mongwe le mongwe go a itsiwe gore o itse gore lekgetho leo le ama mongwe le mongwe go tshela thata ka temothuo. A tsotlhe tse di tswang mo sa kgathalesege gore a o a bereka kana ga a bereke. temothuong, re ntshe lekgetho mo go tsone. Go na le Maloba re ne re oketsa Petrol Levy re tsenya P1.00 ditsela tse dintsi tse re ka thibang diphatlha tsa lekgetho mo go yone. Go raya gore ba dipalamo tsa setšhaba le la balemi-barui. tse dingwe ka go farologana, ba ya go oketsa madi ka maikaelelo a to recover costs tse di tserweng ke levy e. Ke batla ke fete ka e nngwe ya informal sector e e neng They will recover the money from the customers tse e e buiwa ke Honourable Regoeng. Ga ke dumalane le leng gore ke batlhophi ba rona ba ba sa berekeng. Last yone thata. Go na le fa ke dumalanang le yone teng ka year go okeditswe tariffs ka 22 per cent, ngwaga ono gore maloba mo dibekenyaneng tse di sa tswang go feta, go a okediwa gape. Go raya gore Motswana yo o sa re ne re utlwa go na le kgaruru, go lowa fale gotwe batho berekeng, yo o latlhegetsweng ke tiro, le ene koketso e

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a mo ama. Motswana yo o berekang kwa Ipelegeng kwa oketse makgetho gore re direle lefatshe madi. Re ka bo Francistown South o amiwa ke koketso ya motlakase. re ne re dira madi ka thulaganyo ya gore jaanong re bone Ga se gore e ama ba ba berekang fela. Ke sone se e leng gore diteemane tsa rona di re busetsa ka tsela e e ntseng gore as much as I appreciate gore re bo re okeditse gore jang, and we beneficiate diteemane tsa rona ka tsela e e go kgethe ba ba amogelang madi a a fetang P4, 000.00 ntseng jang. ka kgwedi fela, re tshwanelwa ke go itse gore lekgetho le babalela mongwe le mongwe, go sa kgathelesege If we do not …(inaudible)… Rre Matsheka jaaka re itse gore a ke yo o berekang kana yo o sa berekeng. gore mo Botswana, for example, re na le bo Botswana Vaccine Institute (BVI) which is a very successful Ke utlwa botlhoko gore Mapalamente a BDP a eme ka organisation e e dirang mokento wa Foot and Mouth dinao a itumetse, a letsa melodi le megolokwane gore Disease (FMD), fa re sa …(inaudible)… institutions Rre Matsheka o thusa batho ka go fokotsa lekgetho. outside this country, ra bona gore re godisa botsipa jwa Ke batla go supa gore batho ba ba sa berekeng le ba rona, re rekisa batho sengwe kwa mafatsheng a mangwe, ba latlhegetsweng ke ditiro, lekgetho le dikoketso jaaka I can tell you, nako le nako Rre Matsheka, re tlile go di tsentswe gongwe le gongwe, ba amegile mo go nna re re Batswana re thuseng foo ka go ba duedisa utlwisang botlhoko. Jaanong ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, ga makgetho. Golo mo ga go a siamela Motswana yo o sa re ka ke ra itumela gore Rre Matsheka a re go tlaa kgetha berekeng. Go dira jaana, ga go a siamela gore re ka bo re batho ba ba amogelang madi a a kana ka P4, 000.00. It is go dira ka nako e e leng gore ba rotlhe ra re itsholelo ya good but ke raya gore re ikgakologeleng gore batho bao lefatshe e bokete, ditiro di a gana, Goromente o palelwa ga se bone fela. Most of the people ba ba sokolang, ke ba ke go dira ditiro. ba sa berekeng, ba ba latlhegetsweng ke ditiro, banana ba ba mo Internship le Tirelo Setšhaba le ba ba kwa Maloba o ne o supa mo speech gore half ya vacant Ipelegeng. Ke sone se e leng gore kgang e ya lekgetho e positions or vacancies di tswalwe ka lebaka ka gore a ntshwenya. Ke bona gore re tlile go tswelela re oketsa Goromente ga a na madi. Golo mo ke gone mo go lekgetho ngwaga le ngwaga. Re senka ditsela tsa gore nthayang gore tota Mr Speaker, re na le mathata a re ka bona kae makgetho a mangwe a re ka a tsenyang matona a gore Batswana ba ya go felela ba imelwa ke go humanegisa Batswana, ka lebaka la gore re tlogetse botshelo ka mabaka a makgetho a a bakiwang ke gore itsholelo e phutlhama. Jaanong se se ntshwenyang ke our economy has collapsed, and the Government is not gore, maloba Tona o ne a bega Budget Speech, and in making any effort ya go leka go bona gore mme itsholelo my response ka go raya ke re, ke tshwenngwa thata ke e ka agiwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang other jang go batla gore ga o mpontshe gore mo nakong e e tlang, wa re makgetho mo bahumaneging. lefatshe la rona le tlaabo le le botoka ka itsholelo ka Kana Batswana ke bahumanegi ba ba hakgamatsang. tsela e e ntseng jang. Gompieno fa o tsaya Motswana yo o mo A-scale le Ke go reile ke re, if we do not grow our economy, re tlile yo o mo B-scale, ba bereka Goromente, o ipotsa gore go nna re ntse re boela kwa Batswaneng. Ke kopa gore a Motswana yoo we consider gore ke motho yo o re bone gore dikgang tsa gore value chain ya the beef berekang, yo o ka tlisetsang lelwapa la gagwe maduo, sector e ka dirwa leng ka bofefo jo bo kae, e dirwe, ka yo o ka ikagelang ntlo, yo o ka isang bana ba gagwe lebaka la gore if we do not do that, re ya go iphitlhela sekoleng ga nna le se se jewang kgwedi le kgwedi. re le mo seemong se e leng gore itsholelo ya lefatshe Nnyaa ke mathata. Ke sone se re setseng re kile ra kopa la rona e wela kwa tlase ngwaga le ngwaga, mme re le Goromente gore A-scale yo a ko re mo khanseleng batho ba nama, re tshwanelwa ke gore mo nakong ya gotlhelele bogolo re simolole ka B-scale because gompieno re bo re itse gore re ka dira ka tsela e e ntseng A-scale is a non-starter. Ga go na Motswana ope yo o ka jang gore re nne le mefuta ya ka fa re dirang dinama ka dirang botshelo bope jo bo rileng a berekela Goromente, teng, buy products tsa kgomo re ka di dirisa ka tsela e e mme a amogela scale sa A. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, re na le batho ba ba ntseng jalo mo lefatsheng. Fa re tswelela ntseng jang. If we do not do that, re tlile go nna re boela re oketsa makgetho, re ya go iphitlhela re humagisetsa kwa Batswaneng re ya go ba okeletsa lekgetho. bone bao kwa pele, e bile ga ba na go tlhola ba thanya. Re itse diteemane Rre Matsheka, re palelwa ke to exploit Ke dumelana le Mapalamente ba ba reng re na le batho the diamond value chain, mme re le batho ba ba tswang ba ba kgonang, ba ba amogelang madi a mantsi ba e kgakala ka diteemane. Nako le nako re tlile go nna re leng gore ke bone ba re tshwanelwang ke go bona gore boela kwa Batswaneng re ya go batla gore jaanong re re oketsa makgetho mo go bone ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

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Lefatshe la Botswana le a mpalela ka gore, we are ke le Goromente wa Domkrag, ke ka bo ke introduce tax completely different from mafatshe a mangwe a e leng mo go lone. Lekgetho le le tswang mo ditsheng tse di gore tsatsijeno jaana, are successful countries. Lefatshe kanakana, ke ya go bolelela, le ne le ka emisetsa madi a la Singapore le simolotse le sena le fa e le sepe, e bile le a batlang mo batlhoking ba lefatshe la Botswana ba ba ba ipotsa gore gatwe re ya go simolola fa kae. What senang se ba nang le sone. Ke ipotsa gore gatwe go pala they did, the first consideration was, we need to get eng gore re dire makgetho a a ka rotloetsang gore batho the right people who can turnaround the situation e ba ba dirise lefatshe le kana ba le rekisetse Goromente. Fa neng ba iphitlhela ba le mo go yone. Indeed, they went ba sa rekise, re le lefatshe re tlaabo re dire madi ka lone ahead and recruited those people. Lefatshe leo la nna lekgetho le le tswang mo absentee landlords who are le moeteledipele who was the best person. Ka tsela e e hoarding patches and patches of our land. Jaanong ka ntseng jalo, ke sone se o bonang Singapore, without any tsela e e ntseng jalo, ke ne ke re ke go gakolole gore natural resources, mo malatsing a gompieno e le one of go na le tsela eo ya gore re ka dira madi ka yone re le the countries that are doing very, very well. lefatshe la Botswana.

Re a itse gore they do not have fuel, mme they will E kile ya re in the Tenth Parliament, I was very find the best refineries in the world. Ke gore ba goga worried; I asked Minister gore, naare batho ba ba Tati leokwane kwa le tswang teng batla go le tlhatswetsa mo Company, lefatshe le le kanaana le ba nang le lone Singapore, ba bo ba le rekisa. They do manufacturing; ba le tsere kae, ba le neetswe ke mang? Karabo ya re ba tsaya raw materials from outside Singapore ba tla lefatshe le ba le neetswe ke Mmamosadinyana, ka go dira ditiro mo lefatsheng la bone. Lefatshe la rona gore ka nako eo lefatshe la Botswana le ne le busiwa lone le na le dilo tsotlhe; we have diamond, beef, gold, ke Mmamosadinyana. Ke ipotsa gore a re palelwa ke nickel; almost everything you we can think about. gore lefatshe le le kanakana, Batswana ba se na lefatshe, Unfortunately go lebega o kare boeteledipele jwa rona re dire madi ka lone le le mo go rona? Fela ka gore ga bo a lekana go kgona go dira dilo tse gore di tlisetse Batswana maduo a re a tlhokang a ditiro le itsholelo e le abilwe ke Mmamosadinyana, re mo tshaba mo re e kwa godimo. Jaanong ba bona gore ba nne simplistic. palelwang ke gore re buisane le bana ba gagwe gore Simplistic wa ke gore, fa re sena madi, go raya gore nnyaa mme bagaetsho, jaanong re baakanyetseng. That re ya kwa makgethong, because that is the easier is a way we can collect madi ka yone, ra se ka ra batla route out ya gore go ka direlwa lefatshe madi. Jaaka gore re humanegise Batswana mo lefatsheng la bone. Honourable Keorapetse a ne a bua, ga se gore nako le Mr Speaker, fa re oketsa tax, ke batla go go bolelela gore nako re tshwanelwa ke go tabogela kwa go okeletseng go a ntshwenya especially tax e e yang kwa bathong ba batho makgetho, re tshwanelwa ke go itse gore go na ba dikobo dikhutshwane. Le tsone scales tse re buang le ditsela tse dingwe tse re tshwanelwang ke go di leba go direla lefatshe madi. I am saying the first one e e ka ga tsone re re up to P4000, batho bao mo nakong ya sustainable ke ya go leka go bona gore bagaetsho, re gompieno fa o lebelela P4000, ke madi a manyennyane, godisa itsholelo ya lefatshe la Botswana because that go bokete gore ba ka dira botshelo ka one because we is sustainable. Re se ka ra ja fela, re a itse gore le bank are talking about batho ba ba nang le bana. Most of them account fa e le fertile mme o nna o tsaya fela mo go yone e bile gongwe are in the youth category. Jaanong ba ka madi a o retired ka one go sena a a tsenang, kgantele you itirela future jang ka madi aa kanang ka P4 000 a month. become a poor person, mme o kile wa bo o na le madi a So, le fa re re nnyaa, go raya gore re ba baakanyeditse, a gakgamatsang. Jaanong le rona fa re ka dira jalo, re ya mme ga ke dumele gore a o ne o lebile sentle Tona gore go iphitlhela re le mo mathateng. e re ntswa o ba kgarameleditse kwa go P4 000, mme jaanong madi a e leng gore wa re a tlaa ba boela, a tlaa Mo nakong ya gompieno mo lefatsheng la Botswana Mr bo a tsewa ke makgetho one a bo VAT a bo 2 per cent. Speaker, re na le batho ba ba bidiwang gotwe absentee landlords. Ke tswa kwa Kgaolong ya Francistown, mo A tlaabo a tsewa ke bone bo Fuel Levy bao ba bo P1 per teng ga yone, le mo tikologong, go na le lefatshe le le litre, a bo a tsewa ke makgetho ao a o a tlisitseng. Motho seng kana ka sepe, le le sa dirisiweng; la Tati Company. fa a ne a ka ithekela koloi e e tswang kwa Japan ka E sa le e le neetswe ke Mmamosadinyana bogologolo lebaka la gore ditlhwatlhwa tsa yone jaanong malatsing re ise re tsholwe. Lefatshe le le ntse fela ga le dire sepe. a di dule mo tseleng, go raya gore go tlaa pala gore a Batswana ga ba na ditsha, mme lefatshe ke lele. Fa ke ne e ithekele. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, you have made life

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very difficult for our people already. Jaanong le fa o re o ba ikatlhole gore bagaetsho, re ne re tsere gore Puso ke a riana, ke mo gotweng o nneela ka letsogo le lengwe, o selo se se motlhofo, jaanong re lemogile gore golo mo bo o tsaya ka le lengwe. go busa go thata. Ba ikgolole, ba neele ba ba ka kgonang go busa lefatshe le mme batho ba boelwe ke Botswana Re na le bahumi ba dinaledi mo lefatsheng la rona, jwa bone. bahumi tota ba e leng gore le fa o ka ba kgethisa madi a a kae, ga ba ka ke ba babalelwa. They have made so much Ke ne ke re ke akgele fela go le kalo mme e bile ke money mo lefatsheng la Botswana, mme e re ntswa palo rotloetse ba BDP gore instead of thinking more about go ya bone e se kalokalo, tax e e ka tswang mo go bone fa dira jaaka ba re ba a dira… re ba kgethisa fela sentle, it can cover matsana one a re a batlang mo batlhoking, bagoding, mo bananeng ba e HONOURABLE MEMBER: Motho o ka bua a le nosi leng gore ga ba bereke. All we need to do ke go bona fela jaana o kare lesiela. gore re oketsa lekgetho mo go ba ba kgonang. Re a bona MR MMOLOTSI: …mebereko ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. gore ka gore makgetho a rona a favorable mo bahuming Batswana ba ka bulelwa mebereko, ba bereke, ba itirele thata, ba tsweletse ka go humela kwa pele. E bile ga bokamoso go na le gore dinako tsotlhe re bo re akantse se Batswana, fa e le gore ke Batswana, ke ba e leng gore re ka ba kgethisa jang. A re akanyeng gore re ka ba gore ba ne ba ikopela boagedi jwa Botswana. Ke sone bulela mebereko ka tsela e e ntseng jang gore ngwana se o bonang mo nakong ya gompieno mo lefatsheng la wa Motswana a se ka a tsenela sekole swele. Mo nakong rona, fa gotwe the 10 richest people in the country, ga ya gompieno, bana ba rona ba tsenela dikole swele, o o ka ke wa fitlhela gotwe Boipuso Wynter Mmolotsi tlaa fetsa Degree tsa gagwe, a bo a boa a ya go bapa le mo teng, Goretetse Kekgonegile. No! O fitlhela maina motsadi wa gagwe. Motsadi wa gagwe a beeleditse madi fela a re palelwang ke go a bua, a a thata mme fa o ya a re ke dira insurance, this investment mo ngwaneng wa kwa mafatsheng a batho ba ba tswang kwa go one, ga me ke raya gore a tle a tsoge a ntlhokomela. Ngwana o ka ke wa ya go fitlhela gotwe Kgotla Autlwetse ke fa a tswa university o bapa le mmaagwe, ke ene yo a one of the richest people kwa India, China or wherever. mo tlhokomelang gape mme ke Puso ya Domkrag e O tlaa go bona fela mo Botswana, batho bao ke bone e dirang tsone dilo tse. E bo e dumela gore jaanong ba ba humileng mo lefatsheng la rona. Ga o ka ke wa golo mo re tshwanelwa ke go go duduetsa, re bone e utlwa gotwe Rre Regoeng is the second richest person le selo se se siameng. Ke kopa Batswana kwa gae kwa lefatsheng lengwe. No! moo ke dikgang tse di gore bagaetsho, a re ipaakanyeng re eme ka dinao, re tshwenyang, tse di tlhabisang ditlhong, tse re di bonang tlhopholole Domkrag, e tlile go re tlogela re sotlegile mo Botswana fela because ditsamaiso are skewed and mo go utlwisang botlhoko. Fa re sa dire jalo, re itse gore favourable mo go bone batho ba ba tswang kwa. bokamoso jwa lefatshe le bo mo mathateng. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Tota fela ke tshwenyegile ka gore re bolaela Batswana kwa pele mme re tsweletse ka go humisa batswakwa. E MR KEKGONEGILE (MAUN EAST): Tanki Mr bo e le gore jaanong ba a re rua, re nna mo dipateng tsa Speaker. Ke dumedise batlotlegi, ke go dumedise, ke bone. Letsatsi leno re bua gore re ya go ba dira jaana, dumedise Batswana lefatshe lotlhe ka bophara jaaka kamoso re didimetse, ga re sa tlhole re bua gore re kile ba re reeditse re tshwere kgang ya moruthutha e. Mr ra re ba tlile ba rwele rampeetšhane. Nnyaa, eo re tswa Speaker, re a dumalana gore lekgetho ke selo se e leng mo go yone jaanong ba a re rua, re nna bana ba bone, ba gore fa go tlhaelang teng, se ka dirisiwa gore go nne re rua ka itsholelo. Go utlwisa botlhoko gore lefatshe la le letseno le Goromente a ka tlisang ditlamelo kwa rona gompieno, kwa South Africa ba ne ba na le ba ba bathong ka lone. Fa re sa dumalaneng teng, ke mofuta neng ba ba ruile, le rona re na le ba ba re ruileng, ba ruile o o ka dirisiwang go phutha lekgetho. Ba garona kwa babusi ba rona ba lefatshe lone le. Domkrag ba dumela gore, gore motho a bone service, o tshwanelwa ke gore le ene a nne le karolo mo go boneng Go a tshwenya Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re ke supe fela gore service ya go nna jalo e nna teng ka tuelo, mme tuelo gore tota fela a re lekeng go ganelela mo go boneng gore eo leina la yone e bidiwa lekgetho. Rona re dumela gore re ka dira madi a lefatshe ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Re Goromente ke motsadi, o tshwanela ke gore, ka gore o fokotse thata dikgang tse tsa go oketsa makgetho a e phuthile meamuso yotlhe ya lefatshe, a dirise meamuso leng gore a felela a humanegisa Batswana. Fa e le gore eo gore a tlise ditlamelo kwa bathong. Mma ke fe sekai; re palelwa ke go dira jalo, kana fa gongwe ga re batho bona tlhe motsadi ke yo o mo kgaolong e bidiwa Boteti,

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e e nang le Orapa, yo o nang le diteemane. Diteemane fela e tlaabong e kgetha. Gone moo fela fa o lebile P48, tse di epiwa mo lefatsheng la batho ba Boteti. Batho ba 000 ke threshold e e kwa tlase thata, ke raya gore fa o Boteti fa e ne e le bone ba ikepelang diteemane tse, go re o a leba gore naare yo o amogelang P4, 200 le P5, raya gore ba ne ba ka kgona go duela makgetho jaaka 000 pharologanyo ya gagwe le yo wa P4, 000 ke eng a tshwanetse go duelwa. Goromente a bo a re sutang, fela, ga gona pharologanyo. Re lebile gore maloba go ke nna yo ke tlaabong ke epa diteemane tse, ke di okeditswe lekgetho la sengwe le sengwe, go okeditswe, tlhatswa ke di rekisa mo boemong jwa lona, ke bo ke le go tura ga sengwe le sengwe, mo go rayang gore P4, 000 tlisetsa ditlamelo. Ene yo o sutisitsweng mo khumong e o santse a le kwa tlase thata e le threshold. Re dumela e kanakana e, gatwe a duele lekgetho le school fees sa gore e ka bo e okediwa e ya kwa go P7, P8, 000 e le ngwana wa gagwe. Ke gone fa re farologanang teng, re bone ba eleng gore they are exempted go duela lekgetho. dumela gore nnyaa, o phuthile dikhumo tsa lefatshe le Golo mo fela ka bo gone go supa gore re palelwa go le batho, a e nne wena yo o tlisang ditlamelo, go na le gore kae go ka itirela madi ka ditsela tse di farologanyeng, o ka bo o re batho ba nne le lekgetho, thatathata ba ba tse dintsi, tse di ka dirang madi. Bakaulengwe ke a ba dikobo dikhutshwane, ba ba senang dikgwebo dipe, ba utlwa gore ba bua ka broadening the tax base, mathata ditiro tse di tsayang fela fa fatshe di tsenya mo ganong, a Sekgoa se ke gore ka fa re se dumelang ka teng, le ka go sena sepe se ba ka se ipeelang. Lekgetho ga le a fa ba bangwe ba se dumelang ka teng ga go tshwane. tshwanela go dirisiwa e le go nna o kare le kgokgontsha Ba bangwe ba dumela gore fa ba re broadening the tax batho economically, socially, e nna o kare le kgetholola base, ba dumela gore o tshwanelwa ke gore o tswe ka batho ba bangwe le ba dira badidi mo khumong e e methale e e farologanyeng ya go kgethisa batho ba ba kanakana. Ke sone se rona re se buang, ke gone fa re e leng gore ga ba amogele, ba bo P4, 200, P5, 000. Re farologanang teng le ba garona ba Domkrag. dumela gore mo go tshwanetseng go diragala ke gore o oketse palo ya batho ba ba ka kgonang go kgetha le ba Go buiwa ka threshold e e tlaabong e duela lekgetho ba nang le bokgoni jwa go kgetha, ba ba humileng, o gore e ntse e le P36, 000, e ya go goroga kwa go P48, tswale gaps tse di leng teng, mo go phutheng lekgetho. 000. Fa o lebile dituelo tsa lefatshe la Botswana, o Ke gone mo re reng fa re lebile ka fa re kgobokanyang fitlhela e le gore P48, 000 ke 50per cent ya babereki ba lekgetho ka teng gompieno, fa re re broadening, ga re lefatshe la Botswana. Golo moo ka bogone fela, go supa re ye gore re oketse makgetho a a farologanyeng. Re re ka fa e leng gore babereki mo lefatsheng la Botswana, a re oketseng palo e tshwanelwang ke gore e ka kgetha. ga ba amogele ka teng. Fa o lebile ene… Re sa e okeletse mo go sweleleng, re e okeletsa mo …Silence… bokgoning jwa ba ba ka kgonang go kgetha.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kekgonegile, ga ke go Fa re lebile gone ga broadening jalo re e fa dikai, palo utlwe sir, unmute yourself. ya rona e nnyennyane thata re le lefatshe le, go buiwa thata ka bo goreng public service palo ya yone e kwa MR KEKGONEGILE: Ke a utlwala Mr Speaker? godimo against the population that we have. Fa e ne e le gore we are in a position to export, go ntshetsa MR SPEAKER: O a utlwala motlotlegi. babereki kwa ntle ga lefatshe ba bo ba tlisa lekgetho MR KEKGONEGILE: Ke ntse ga ke utlwale Mr mo lefatsheng, ba bereka kwa ntle ga lefatshe jaaka Speaker? mafatshe a mangwe a dira, then golo moo ka bo gone fela go raya gore that is how we are broadening our …Silence… tax base. Fa re nna le dikgang tsa bo goreng… re sa kgone go tlhaloganya gore naare gone mme Ministry wa MR KEKGONEGILE: Ke ntse ga ke utlwale Mr Tertiary golo mo go tshwanang dingaka le barutegi ba Speaker? ba ka rutang kaekae, ba ba ka berekang kaekae, ke eng MR SPEAKER: O a utlwala. re sa oketse palo ya dingaka that we are training from the 300 o annual to 1000 and then help ba ba kgonang MR KEKGONEGILE: Tanki, e a pala Fourth Industrial go baya…(inaudible)…mo lefatsheng, fa ba bangwe ba Revolution. Ke ne ke riana Mr Speaker, re re P4, 000 ke tswela kwa ntle ga lefatshe ba tlisa lekgetho le duela 50 per cent ya the working population mo lefatsheng ba ba leng mo lefatsheng dituelo tse di bonalang. Ke la Botswana ba amogela bokalo. Mo go rayang gore gone mo re go dumelang gore e tshwanelwa ke go nna 50 per cent ya babereki fa re lebile Tshutiso e ke yone our principles of broadening the tax base, rather than

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o oketse lekgetho kwa motlakaseng, peteroleng le VAT. Lifestyle audit e Mr Speaker, re dumela gore for Motlakase o nne le makgetho a le four. O kgethisa motho transparency’s sake a e simolole from Cabinet. Fa e ka a le mongwe fela gantsintsi, you are not broadening the simolola from Cabinet ra kgona go tlhaloganya gore a tax base, o bolaya motho, you are impoverishing the Minister yo o senang kompone go tla jang gore a bo nation. gompieno a na le dithoto tse di kana, go tla jang gore ba lesika la gagwe gompieno ba bo ba na le dithoto tse Mr Speaker, kana we are in COVID, and e digile di kana. Then we will clean our Cabinet, once we have itsholelo. Fa e digile itsholelo jaana, tsholofelo ya rona e clean Cabinet go ya go nna phisego within the powers ne e le go bona gore mongwe le mongwe mo lefatsheng that be, gore go ka lwantshwiwa leakage ya lekgetho le o tshela bokete, mme ga re bone seo, re bona almost corruption. If we are still rubberstamping, fa re santse 80, 90 per cent of the population e tshela bokete. Re re bua fela go sena action e re e bonang from this, Mr bona the small five per cent e tshutshuma, o ipotsa Speaker, ga re ye go nna le lekgetho le le tlaa nnang gore naare ba bone ba tshutshuma ka le fe, ba ba sokola teng. ka lefe? Re bona batho ba huma le go gaisa mme re sa kgone go bona gore naare khumo ya batho ba e tswa fa Re bua thata ka mabentlele mme re lebile gongwe batho kae, itsholelo yone e le dingalo. Dilo tse fela tsa gore ba letso lengwe, gongwe motho o kare, mme ntlha o foreign reserves di kgonne go tswa from billions tse di kare bone re ba ntsha ka loso legolo ka gore gongwe ba kanakana, to bo P2/P4 billion in a year, 12 months mme basweu mo go rona. Re na le batho ba mafatshe a a re o bona batho ba bangwe ba tshutshuma, go sa nne le gore dikologileng ba ba gwebang mo lefatsheng la rona, mme naare gatwe reserves tse, billions tse di kanakana tse di ga ba duele lekgetho. Ga re a tshwanela go didimala ka tlhalosiwa gore di ile kae, gone moo fela ka bo gone bone fela ka gore ba ba ntsho jaaka rona. Fa o tsena mo Mr Speaker go raya gore re na le leakages tse dintsi, 37 industrial site ya Maun, 70 per cent of the industries tse per cent o neng Honourable Matsheka a mmua o kwa di fale, tsa bo sekhenekhe, panel beating tsa bo eng, tsa tlase. Percentages tsa wastage mo itsholelong ya rona bo eng, ga se tsa Batswana, mme e bile ga se tsa batho ba di dintsi go gaisa 37 per cent. Gone moo fela go raya basweu, ke tsa ba ba ntsho fela jaaka rona. We are running gore BURS e tshwanelwa ke gore e tlhoafale ka go dira economy ya Zimbabwe from Botswana mme go sena lifestyle audit. lekgetho lepe le le duelwang ke batho that are running economy ya Zimbabwe from Botswana. Metlhaba e ke Ka nako ya lockdown re ne re bona mongwe kana bone, o ya kwa horticulture, kwa merogong, ditlhaping, bangwe ba tswa from go kgweetsa Honda Fit a ya go sekhenekheng le kwa kagong ke bone, but ga gona kwa kgweetsa Mercedes Benz in a period of a month. Go ba duelang lekgetho teng. Honourable Matsheka, re ne supa fela gore black market e ntsi, go supa fela gore re kopa gore a ko o nne fa fatshe le BURS le nne le an they have survived through the protocols tse di leng Inter-Ministerial Committee taskforce le tle Maun, re tle teng, through illegitimate means tsa go rekisa legitimate go tsaya itsholelo re e busetse mo bathong ba Maun. products and illegitimate means tsa go ipha tenders kana by fronting for ba ba abang tenders tenders, ba Gompieno jaana itsholelo ya Maun ga e mo go rona. felela ba humile, ka ntata ya bo direct purchasing ya Fa o ya kwa tenders tse di kwa meepong, ga di yo mo COVID items. Go botlhokwa thata gore BURS in their bathong ba Maun kana mo Batswaneng. Di mo bathong next report ba bo ba re bolelela, ba bolelela lefatshe gore ba ba kwa ntle mme ba le bantsho jaaka rona go sena we have done lifestyle audit in this five, three per cent ditetla tsa gore di ka dira jalo. Molao wa fronting o a and one per cent, mme re bone ba tshwanelwa ke gore tlhokafala gore o goroge ka bofefo jo bo tshwanetseng. ba bo ba duela lekgetho la bone tripled le le 10 times, Re tshwanelwa ke gore re emele dilo tse ka dinao re le because if you move from maoFit to Mercedes Benz go lefatshe gore o le Motswana o ipona o tsaya licence ya raya gore you are making money. If you are making gago o e fa motswakwa a gweba ka yone mme a go fa money o tshwanelwa ke gore o kgethe. Fa e le gore they matlhotlhora a kgwebo eo a ntshetsa madi kwa ntle ga are moving from maoFit to Mercedes Benz o sa kgethe, lefatshe. O ya go fitlhela go sena le fa e le Batswana ba ke bothata. Ke leakage e re buang ka yone gore, fa re ba leng teng mo supply ya tourism. Ke batswakwa ba ka e ikgatholosa re ya go felela re re kgethisa batho ba fana fela ka bobone mme dilo tseo re kgona go di dira re ba sa tshwanelang ke gore ba ka bo ba kgetha. Fa re ka le batho ba Maun, re le Batswana, re le batho ba Bokone ikgatholosa, re ya go palelwa ke gore re ka bo re oketsa Bophirima. Go botlhokwa thata Mr Speaker, gore BURS threshold to bo P84, 000 rather than P48, 000. e eme ka dinao mo dilong tse di ntseng jaana. Once you

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close these leakages, you increase the threshold. Once Mr Speaker, ka go rialo ka ke tseela gore ke nna wa you close these leakages, ga go tlhokafale gore ngwaga bofelo, ke reye Batswana ke re kana charge sheet ke e. o o tlang or in two years time re bo re simolola re re re Re e ganne maloba mme e ntse e a gatelelwa. Gompieno tsenya percentage ya VAT jaanong ke to 15 per cent. go ntse go buiwa bo go reng go fiwa ka letsogo le go tseiwa ka letsogo le. They are trying to cushion mme Mr Speaker, re buile thata ka extreme corruption le ga se cushion e e ka welang gope kgakala. Ba mo conflict within the Government Enclave jaaka maloba motlhaleng fela wa bone wa gore ba ba humileng ba re ne re bala re utlwa Directorate of Intelligence and humele kwa pele, ba ba humanegileng ba humanegele Service (DIS) e bua gore go tshwanelwa ke gore go kwa pele. Ke dumela gore le fa go ntse gotwe Batswana nne le Cabinet reshuffle ka gore some of the Ministers ba lebala ka bonako, 2024 re tlaa ba gakolola dilo tse; ba are conflicted, they are trading within their ministries. tlhopholole Domkrag. Tanki Mr Speaker. DIS kana e ne e rialo. Gone moo fela ka bogone, re tlaa tshwanelwa ke gore go emelwe ka dinao. Honourable MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Member. Tsogwane, Leader of the House and Leader of Honourable Members, it looks like we have really Government Business in Parliament, emelang selo se ka exhausted our debate and there are no more hands up. dinao. Itsholelo e a tsamaya, e a fela. This is the time for me to call upon the Minister of Finance and Economic Development, Honourable Dr Matsheka Re tla kwa bokhutlong Mr Speaker, kana re bua gore o to respond to the debate and move accordingly. I want to kare tax generation kana tax collection ga e wele sentle. plead with the Minister that we are very constrained in Fa o leba mo tourism industry le fa re bua ka leakage terms of time. If you can actually reduce your response jaana, o ya go fitlhela gore fa gongwe ditsamaiso tsa so that you can give us enough time to finish this Bill. rona tse dingwe le tsone ga se tsone sentle. Fa o lebelela We do not have time. Honourable Minister. the bed and breakfast or a small lodge mo Maun e bo tourist e tla go bo gotwe you pay P10 per bed, go bo MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC go tla mohumi wa dinaledi… Go raya gore bed and DEVELOPMENT (DR MATSHEKA): Thank you breakfast mo Maun ke bo P400 or P500. Go bo go tla Mr Speaker. Please confirm, how much do you want me mohumi wa dinaledi a bo a ya kwa Mombo. Go kile to use? go bo go duelwa P25,000 koo bosigo bo le bongwefela MR SPEAKER: You have 30 minutes but you may use mme ke dumela gore go fetogile gompieno. Re tlaa bua around 20 minutes. ditlhwatlhwa tsa teng tse dišha in the next meeting wa Palamente. O bo o duedisa mohumi yo wa dinaledi P10 DR MATSHEKA: Okay. bed levy le ene. A ko o bone tlhe o duedisa Kekgonegile MR SPEAKER: Or 15 if you can. yo o senang P10 bed levy. Mohumi yo wa dinaledi yo o tlang a tswa kwa a tshwere madi a ipolelela gore o ya DR MATSHEKA: I will try and be less, I think. bojanaleng and he or she is going to spend le ene o ntse Thank you Mr Speaker. Mma ke leboge Motsamaisa o mo duedisa P10 wa bed levy. Ga go tsamaelane. Ke Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente e bile ke tseye sebaka se go sone se re se buang re re lekgetho ga le a tshwanela go leboga bakaulengwe go bo ba kgonne go nna le seabe sa nna uniform. Le tshwanelwa ke gore le tsamae ka the go akgela kana go nna le karolo mo Bill e re e beileng character of the person; the financial circumstances tsa fa pele ga Palamente. Ke tlhomamise dintlha tse dingwe tse di latelang Mr Speaker. Ke ba tlhomamisetse gore ke motho, e seng… batho ba ba tshelelang kwa bo Mombo, ba utlwile. E bile ke tlhomamise gore mosepele wa rona ba ba ka bong ba na le madi mo go kalo fa nna ke duela bagaetsho o a simologa, o simologile. P10 levy, bone ka ba na le madi e bile they do not mind spending their money there, ba ka bo ba duela bo P100 Bagaetsho, re dumalane ka transformation. or P200 bed levy per night. If he can pay P25,000, he Transformation e e tlile go batla gore re eme ka dinao can pay that P200 or P100. Gone moo fela ka bogone, re lebelele dintlha tse di farologaneng tsa itsholelo ya go raya gore leakage one way or the other, le yone re a rona e bile re itseye stock jaaka go tle go buiwe gore e tswala ka gore once fa a duela that P200 bed levy, go go senyegile fa kae, re tlaa baakanya fa kae, go tlhoka raya gore madi a mantsintsi a a salang kwa a a fokotsega gore re dire eng. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, re lebelele a tla kwano. Ke sone se re reng income tax kana go dilo tse ka kakaretso. E re fa lebile lekgetho, re bo re kgethisa ga go a tshwanela go nna uniform. lebelela ditlhabololo le dintlha tsotlhe tse di batlang go

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baakanngwa mo itsholelong ya rona le mo lefatsheng Re a dumalana gore gompieno mo molaong o re fokotsa la rona. Re tlhomamise gape gore transformation lekgetho, re fokoletsa batho ba ba amogelang P4,000 ya rona e amilwe thata ke COVID-19 and rotlhe re a gore ba se ka ba duela lekgetho gotlhelele. Ga go pale dumalana gore fa e ne e se ka segajaja se, re ka bo re sepe gore mo dingwageng tse pedi kana tse kae tse di sa fapoga seporo mo go kalokalo. Jaanong go tlile go tlang, go bo okediwa gape. Re tshwanetse re lebelele nna botlhokwa gore re le Batswana, re le bogogi, re structure le the income distribution framework ya le Mapalamente re itebaganye le bothata jo re nang le itsholelo ya rona, go itse gore fa income distribution jone. Ga bo tle go rarabololwa ke puo epe fela e e ka e ntse jaana, can we now touch on the upper bracket, tlalang ka kgamelo. E tlile go rarabololwa ke gore re can we look at other forms of taxes. Jaaka le buile gore, tseye dikgato tse di lebaneng gore re bone gore re ka go na le absentee landlords, all those things are every baakanya dilo ka tsela e e ntseng jang. important to look at, because at the end of the day the philosophy ke gore we need to make sure that we finance Gape ke bue gape gore it is a balancing act. Ga re ka our development re le Batswana. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo ke ra dira selo se le sengwefela re bo re re re feditse re megopolo yotlhe e le e ntshitseng e botlhokwa, e bile re tswa ka tsela e e ntseng jaana. Nnyaa, it is a balancing tshwanetse re tle re e lebe kwa pele re ntse re tsweletse act. That is why maloba fa ke le raya ke re re oketse le transformation ya rona. VAT, kgantele re a go rebelela mo gongwe re bo re boa re re a re fokotse fale, a re dire jaana fale, a re fokotse Ke buile fa maloba gore, we are almost running a project e a re dire mo. It is a balancing act. So, there is welfare state. Re buile ka the reforms that we want to no one solution. Ga go na tharabololo e e yosi e motho do, mananeo a a batlang go fetolwa le gore we want to a ka e tsayang mo kgannyeng e e ntseng jaana. Gongwe finance programmes which promote output, not inputs. jaaka re ne re bua re re gongwe ga re a kgona to price That is why le our agricultural sector jaaka ba ne ba the peace and tranquillity ya lefatshe le, we have not tlhalosa ba agriculture gore, we need to look at all been able to price it even to our National Development these programmes tsa Integrated Support Programme Programmes (NDPs) so e tle e re fa batho ba akola for Arable Agriculture Development (ISPAAD) le tse (enjoy) the peace and tranquillity, there is a price tag to dingwe so that we can justify makgetho a re a phuthang, it. These are issues tse re tshwanetseng gore re di bue re we can justify by output, by exports, jaaka re dumalane le bogogi re dumalana re le Palamente gore we are going ka export-led growth. We can promote efficiency of to review a lot of these policies. We are going to review spending mo ga Goromente. That is a very important even the philosophy ya rona ya gore tota mme how can aspect of what we need to do. If we can do all those we adjust so that we actually look at the structure of this things, we will avoid the middle income trap, where we economy re bo re itse gore where do we need to touch remain a middle income country, and we are unable to more. Ga se gore ga ke a le utlwa, I have listened to you move our capacity forward as a country. So all these very carefully about these things. things bakaulengwe, they are developmental issues tse di batlang gore re eme ka dinao re le Palamente. What Ke dumalana gape le kgang ya public education that we are doing now fa le sena go fetisa the budget and tax issues are complex issues e bile di batla gore le fa all the other taxes, it is the beginning of a long journey, re ruta batho le lona le nthuta re bo re itse gore re di I must say this. It is the beginning of a long journey to tsamaisa ka tsela e e ntseng jang and therefore, go tlile reform and to make sure that we get out of the middle go nna botlhokwa gore re kgone to take ownership of income trap. our Development Programmes re le Batswana so that people can ordinarily and voluntarily pay for lekgetho Go ne go na le dikgang tse di neng di builwe, ka ba itse gore they are financing development. Therefore, efficiency ya BURS. These are matters that we are ke dumalana gore go na le dilo tse di ka nnang tsa dia dealing with, go na le ba ba sa dueleng lekgetho, we batho go duela lekgetho ka gore gongwe ga di tsamae jaaka go ne go solofetswe gore di ka diriwa. We have are looking at all those issues to make sure that batho ba committed very clearly in all these things to tackle duela lekgetho, and the efficiency of tax collection. O a corruption and all other issues that you were raising. bona gore gompieno, you are talking only about 27,000 These are issues of national importance tse di tlhokang people in that bracket, so certainly not many people gore di diriwe because the end beneficiary; mmoelwa are captured in the bracket ya tax. So that number yo mogolo ke Motswana yo o kwa gae a solofetse technically, and you are talking about 16 million, it is ditlamelo le gore dilo di diriwe ka tsela e e riling. a low number relative to income distribution across the

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whole economy. So those are issues tse re tshwanetseng Re batla gore le fa o tshwareletse, o kgone go nna very, re di lebelele, re ipotse gore tota what is the best way. very good mo go tshwareleleng, gore batho ba bone gore So we are starting a very long journey around what we nnyaa o tshwareletse sentle. Ga go itse ope go bereka fa need to do. a tshwareletse, ka mabaka a a ntseng jalo bagaetsho. Ga go molato go tshwarelela, re a itse gore batho ba kgona Jaanong ke tlhalose gape gore, ga re kgethise batho, go tshwarelela dingwaga tse dintsintsi thata, mme go se we tax income. So if you are 70 years and you have na ope yo o ngongoregang. got income, you pay tax. We are not taxing you, we are taxing your income. Therefore, le fa o na le ntlo e tona o Ba BURS ba na le tax compliance and audits, those are le mogodi o dira income, that is what we are taxing not important for people to be able to check compliance. you, because it is your income that is actually important There will always be mathata a compliance, and ke tiro to be looked at. Gape, fa re bua ka taxing jaaka Rre ya bone gore ba tsamaye ba ye to audit firms, ba bone Ramogapi a bua ka motho a ipeetse madi, nnyaa, go gore a batho ba duelwa sentle. Ngwaga le ngwaga ka kgethisiwa the interest that is made not the principal, July go ntshiwa tax table, that tax table ke yone e e because ao o setse o duetse lekgetho mo go one nako ya dirisiwang ke bahiri go bona how they calculate tax, tota o theogetse. Fa o ipeela kwa thoko, o a go duela on the ga go a tshwanela go nna le bothata jwa gore batho ga interest that you actually pay fa o santse o le foo. ba itse gore ba kgethisiwa jang, ke kgang ya education.

Gape re gakologelwe gore, there is an industry of Kgang ya lekgetho ke utlwile bakaulengwe ba bangwe professionals, bagakolodi ba lekgetho. Ke dumalana le ba gana, ba re nnyaa ditlhabololo di isiwa kwa kgaolong Rre Molale le ba bangwe ba ba buileng gore, we need e nngwefela. Fa re ka tsaya mogopolo oo, re tlaa to simplify our tax compliance process, e se ka ya nna tshwanela ke to calculate gore kgaolo ya gago e tlisa tax bokete e bile e go palela kgantele o bo o sa comply not e e kae, re bo re kgona go bona gore a wena re ka go fa ditlhabololo. Ga re ka ke ra ya koo, ka gore le diteemane because ga o batle go duela lekgetho, but because tota ga re ka ke ra re ga o na diteemane, jaanong wena o form e o kare e bokete e bile e ya go batla gore o hire tshwanetse gore... re tshwanetse re lebelele lefatshe ka batho gore ba kgone go go thusa. Go botlhokwa that we bophara, re itse gore ke lefatshe la rona rotlhe re duela make sure gore tota re a phutha tsotlhe tse re di batlang. lekgetho, lekgetho le le phuthelwa mo kgetsaneng e Rre Tshere o ne a bua ka reserves, gore di ile kwa tlase, le nosi. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, re tshwanetse re itse ke boammaaruri. Ga re ise re adime madi gore re duele gore re a ne re lebelela projects tse le di dumalaneng le dilo tse tsotlhe tse re neng re di dira ngwaga o o ntseng o Mapalamente gore go siame a iseng kwa, isang madi feta o, go ne go sena kwa madi a ka tswang teng kwa ntle kwa le kwa. Re bo re itse gore tota re berekela mo go ga the reserves. Gompieno re tshwanetse re simolole go eng, jaaka go ntse jalo. akanya gore re ya go dira jang ka gore COVID-19 e Re itse kgang ya transfer pricing e Rre Keorapetse santse e le fa gare ga rona, a re ya go adima? We are a neng a bua ka yone, e teng e a tshela. Ke tiro e e going to have to debate as Parliament, about this issue tshwanetseng e dirwe ke baitseanape ba lekgetho, go so that re kgone go dumalana gore tota re ya go dira nna go le teng. All those things are done, that is why o jang. Ga ke a le lobela gore International Monetary fitlhela ba bangwe ba sekela lekgetho, ba bangwe ba sa Fund (IMF) e ne e dira study sa spending efficiency. seke, go sa reye gore ga ba na income, go raya gore ga Ke le boleletse gore 37 per cent of the expenditure is go ise go bonwe sepe se se maswe se ba se dirang. Ka used inefficiently, so we need to tackle that problem. tsela e e ntseng jalo go botlhokwa. Ga se sephiri, it is a matter that we need to deal with Ke dumalana le Honourable Mmusi fa a bua gore, fa as a country and as a Government to make sure that re ka lebelela a lot of our strategies, jaaka a ne a bua we bring resources to people, ba bona the benefits of ka sales strategy ya diteemane, if we maximise revenue development and therefore do so. collection where the economy is stronger, then re ka fokoletsa batho lekgetho kwa economy e sokolang teng, O buile gape ka Acting Commissioner kwa BURS, re itse gore Batswana ba a iteka, mme kwa madi a leng these are matters which are seized with Government, to teng re tlaa kgona go dira jalo. make sure that in a lot of our parastatals we get this position filled. Ga re batle Bogosi jo bo tshwarelelwang Tsa ga Rre Mathoothe tsa Constitutional review, ruri, kana go na le Magosi a o fitlhelang Kgosi e sale e Tautona o tlhalositse gore Constitutional Review e tshwarelela motho kana batho dingwaga tse dintsintsi. etla. O tlaa tla o ntsha megopolo ya gore, ke mang yo

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o tshwanetseng gore a nne Tona ya Madi, ke mang yo o Clauses 1 - 3 agreed to. tshwanetseng gore a nne eng. Ke dilo tse le tlaa tlang le di bua, e bile ga go itse ope gore go nne motho o sele in Clause 4 this ministry, ke kgang e e sa tlhokaneng le gore re eme MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC ka dinao. Le bone maloba BURS e ntshitse Expression DEVELOPMENT (DR MATSHEKA): I would like of Interest for a machine that collects tax, mo bathong to move Mr Chairperson. Clause 4 appearing on page ba le buang ka bone ba ba sa dueleng. Go simologile, B.91 is amended by - they are implementing the Economic Recovery and Transformation Plan (ERTP) e re neng re e kwala fa, (a) inserting immediately after sub-paragraph (a) appearing therein, the following new sub- gore re tlaabo re e sala morago batho ba duele lekgetho. paragraph - Tse tsotlhe re di lebeletse bakaulengwe, gore re foketse bokete jwa lekgetho mo bathong. Mo nakong e re “(b) substituting for sub-paragraph (a) appearing leng mo go yone e, go botlhokwa gore re itse gore re therein, the following new sub-paragraph - le Batswana lefatshe le re lebile gore a mme re na le “(a) 10 per cent of each payment of dividend made to maitsetsepelo a gore re ka kgona go itshwarelela mo any person; and matsubutsubung a re mo go one. O kare go a itshupa gore re tlaa tshwanelwa ke go bona gore re dira jang re (b) renumbering paragraphs (b) and (c), appearing le Batswana, so that re kgone go bona gore ditlhabololo therein as (c) and (d) accordingly.” tsa lefatshe la rona di ya go tsamaya ka tsela e e ntseng I so move Mr Chairperson. jang. Amendment agreed to. Ke dumalana le Honourable Segokgo le ba bangwe ba ba buileng about electronic taxing, gore we need to look Clause 4 as amended agreed to. at those areas to make sure that lekgetho la rona re le phutha mo maranyaneng otlhe. Jaaka le itse Amazon Clauses 5 - 6 agreed to. gore o kgona go reka o le koo, mme ga re itse gore re INCOME TAX (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2021 (NO. kgona to capture ka tsela e e ntseng jang. 13 OF 2021)

Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ka nako e re Bill reported from Committee with amendments. siile, I would like to move now. I therefore move that the Income Tax (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No. 13 of 2021) Third Reading - Forthwith. be read a second time. I thank you Mr Speaker. Third Reading MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister, INCOME TAX (AMENDMENT) BILL, thank you very much for that cooperation. 2021 (NO. 13 OF 2021) Order! (Minister of Finance and Economic Development)

Question put and agreed to. MR SPEAKER (MR PULE): Order! Honourable Members, the question is that the Income Tax Committee - Forthwith. (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No. 13 of 2021) be read a third time. ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) DEVELOPMENT (DR MATSHEKA): Mr Speaker, I move that the Income Tax (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No. INCOME TAX (AMENDMENT) BILL, 13 of 2021) be read a third time and do pass. 2021 (NO. 13 OF 2021) MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, the question is MR CHAIRPERSON (MR PULE): Order! Order! that the Income Tax (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No. 13 Honourable Members, please note that the Income of 2021) be read a third time and do pass. Honourable Tax (Amendment) Bill, 2021 (No. 13 of 2021) has six Members, in accordance with Standing Order 62.1 (c), Clauses. Some amendments have been noticed. I shall I should order a division. A division shall be held in a therefore call the Clauses consecutively. manner prescribed in the Standing Order 63.

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Question put and Division Ordered.

CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT His Excellency Dr Masisi Honourable Autlwetse √ Honourable Balopi Honourable Boko Honourable Brooks √ Honourable Billy Honourable Dr Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Dow Honourable Gare √ Honourable Dr Gobotswang √ Honourable Greeff √ Honourable Hikuama Honourable Kablay √ Honourable Kapinga √ Honourable Kekgonegile √ Honourable Keorapetse Honourable Kereng √ Honourable Kgafela √ Honourable Khama Honourable Dr Kwape √ Honourable Lesedi Honourable Lelatisitswe √ Honourable Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Letsholathebe Honourable Letsholo √

Honourable Leuwe √ Honourable Lucas √ Honourable Majaga √ Honourable Makwinja √ Honourable Manake √ Honourable Mangwegape-Healy Honourable Mathoothe √ Honourable Dr Matsheka √ Honourable Mmolotsi √ Honourable Mmusi √ Honourable Moabi √ Honourable Moagi Honourable Moatlhodi √ Honourable Modukanele √ Honourable Mokgethi √ Honourable Molale √ Honourable Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi √ Honourable Monnakgotla √ Honourable Morwaeng Honourable Moswaane

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Honourable Motaosane Honourable Motsamai √ Honourable Mthimkhulu √ Honourable Mzwinila √ Honourable Nkawana √ Honourable Rakgare √ Honourable Ramogapi √ Honourable Reatile Honourable Regoeng √ Honourable Saleshando Honourable Segokgo Honourable Serame √ Honourable Shamukuni √ Honourable Thiite Honourable Dr Tshabang √ Honourable Tshere √ His Honour Tsogwane √

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, there are the results of your voting; “aye” 40, “no” two, “abstain” three and absent 18. That means the ayes have it.

The Bill was read a third time and passed.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members. We have done so well with time. We have finished the business of today. I must thank you most profusely for managing the time the way you did. Now it is time for me to call upon the Leader of the House to move a Motion of adjournment.

MOTION

ADJOURNMENT

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, as we have concluded business on today’s Order Paper, I move that this House do now adjourn.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until Friday 16th April, 2021 at 9:00 a.m.

Hansard No 201 53 HANSARD RECORDERS Mr T. Gaodumelwe, Mr T. Monakwe, Ms T. Kebonang HANSARD REPORTERS Mr M. Buti, Ms Z. Molemi, Mr J. Samunzala, Ms N. Selebogo, Ms A. Ramadi, Ms D. Thibedi, Ms G. Baotsi, Ms N. Mokoka

HANSARD EDITORS Ms K. Nyanga, Ms C. Chonga, Mr K. Goeme, Ms G. Phatedi, Ms B. Malokwane, Mr A. Mokopakgosi, Ms O. Nkatswe, Ms G. Lekopanye, Ms T. Mokhure, Ms B. Ratshipa LAYOUT DESIGNERS Mr B. B. Khumanego, Mr D. T. Batshegi, Mr K. Rebaisakae

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