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Vol. 188 Wednesday, No. 25 19 March 2008 DI´OSPO´ IREACHTAI´ PARLAIMINTE PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES SEANAD E´ IREANN TUAIRISC OIFIGIU´ IL—Neamhcheartaithe (OFFICIAL REPORT—Unrevised) Wednesday, 19 March 2008. Business of Seanad ………………………………2037 Order of Business …………………………………2038 Undocumented Irish: Motion ……………………………2061 Motor Vehicle (Duties and Licences) Bill 2008: Second Stage …………………2061 Business of Seanad ………………………………2083 Passports Bill 2007: Committee Stage (resumed)………………………2084 Sustainable Residential Development: Motion ………………………2090 Adjournment Debate School Transport ………………………………2121 Schools Amalgamation ……………………………2125 Services for People with Disabilities…………………………2129 2037 2038 SEANAD E´ IREANN have selected the matters raised by Senators Nicky McFadden, John Paul Phelan and Joe ———— O’Reilly and they will be taken at the conclusion of business. Senators Pearse Doherty and Brian De´ Ce´adaoin, 19 Ma´rta 2008. O´ Domhnaill may give notice on another day of Wednesday, 19 March 2008. the matters they wish to raise. ———— Order of Business. Chuaigh an Cathaoirleach i gceannas ar Senator Donie Cassidy: The Order of Business 2.30 p.m. is No. 17, motion 35, an all-party motion re the undocumented Irish in the United States, to be ———— taken without debate at the conclusion of the Order of Business; No. 1, Motor Vehicle (Duties Paidir. and Licences) Bill 2008 — Second Stage, to be Prayer. taken at the conclusion of No. 17, motion 35, and on which spokespersons may speak for 12 ———— minutes and all other Senators eight minutes and in respect of which Members may, with the agree- Business of Seanad. ment of the House, share time; No. 2, Passports Bill 2007 — Committee and Remaining Stages, to An Cathaoirleach: I have notice from Senator be taken at the conclusion of No. 1; and No. 17, Nicky McFadden that, on the motion for the Private Members’ motion 36 re planning guide- Adjournment of the House today, she proposes lines on sustainable residential development, to to raise the following matter: be taken at 5.30 p.m. The need for the Minister of Education and Science to reverse the exorbitant price increase Senator Frances Fitzgerald: Last week, the in school transport. House agreed that an all-party motion on the I have also received notice from Senator John undocumented Irish in the United States should Paul Phelan of the following matter: be tabled. I am glad such a motion is included on today’s Order Paper. In light of recent events and The need for the Minister for Education and comments made by the Taoiseach, however, it is Science to outline the length of time that capi- not satisfactory that this all-party motion will be tal funding will continue to be unavailable to taken without debate. The situation has changed Good Counsel College, New Ross, County in respect of this matter and an explanation Wexford, owing to the ongoing discussions should be provided in the House in respect of regarding school amalgamations in the New what the Taoiseach meant when he commented Ross area. on this matter in the United States. The I have also received notice from Senator Joe Taoiseach referred to “people who do not really O’Reilly of the following matter: know what they are talking about” when refer- ring to those who represent the undocumented The need for the Minister for Health and Irish. He also stated — this was a strange remark Children to staff and open Brookvale House — that they are “talking from a position of sitting residential centre, Milltown, Monaghan, in the bar and talking nonsense”. I thought the County Monaghan, which it is intended will Taoiseach had respect for those who are trying to provide a sheltered housing environment for run the campaign aimed at having the situation persons with special needs. changed. I have also received notice from Senator Pearse Last week, Senator McFadden spoke movingly Doherty of the following matter: about individual cases of hardship. It appears the Taoiseach misrepresented the position of the The need for the Minister for Education and Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform. The chair- Science to approve designs for a gym at Pobal- man of that organisation, Mr. Niall O’Dowd, scoil Gaoth Dobhair, County Donegal, and pointed out that it had never sought an open- allow the project to go to construction stage ended amnesty for the undocumented Irish and without further delay. stated that it is seeking a solution and a discussion I have also received notice from Senator Brian O´ with the Government of the United States. The Domhnaill of the following matter: Taoiseach seems to have changed his position and has almost given up hope. That is a very depress- The need for the Minister for Education and ing message for the families of the undocumented Science to give an update on the planned pro- Irish, who are concerned about the difficult cir- vision of a sports hall at Pobalscoil Gaoth cumstances in which their loved ones find them- Dobhair, County Donegal. selves. I wish to move an amendment to the I regard the matters raised by the Senators as Order of Business so that we might debate this suitable for discussion on the Adjournment. I matter today. The holding of such a debate 2039 Order of 19 March 2008. Business 2040 [Senator Frances Fitzgerald.] panies. I am holding up to the House a jersey of seemed to be the wish of those on all sides last a well known English football club, Liverpool FC, week. which I bought this morning. It is a replica shirt I wish to comment on a topic that gained a for nine to ten year olds, bearing the logo of a great deal of attention in the House very recently drinks company on the front. I will not—— when two young Polish men were violently assaulted and killed. I was involved in a dis- An Cathaoirleach: The Senator cannot show or cussion on radio at the weekend in respect of advertise any material in the Chamber. Irish identity and the great opportunity presented by St. Patrick’s Day in that regard. There is no Senator Ivana Bacik: I apologise, a doubt that St. Patrick’s Day does present such an Chathaoirligh. opportunity but it also seems to be the occasion for the perpetration of anti-social behaviour on Senator Terry Leyden: That is an excellent pro- our streets. Such behaviour was on display in motion for Carlsberg. Finglas at the weekend. There appears to be a continuum of violent behaviour and that is a Senator Frances Fitzgerald: Senator Bacik did serious matter. In my constituency on Thursday not mention the name of the company. afternoon last four men drove up to a small local shopping centre and caused terror by firing four Senator Ivana Bacik: I do not intend to name shots while robbing \100,000 from those refilling the drinks company so it will not show on the an ATM machine. One man was murdered in transcript. Newcastle and another in Clondalkin. Senator Ro´ na´n Mullen: That is probably the We need to see some leadership on this issue. best idea we have had all day. The House has addressed this on a number of occasions. There is a real problem with leadership Senator Ivana Bacik: I understand there is and co-ordination in this area. It is not just about some levity about this, but it is a serious matter. It a security response, although that is certainly one was raised by a constituent of mine who became aspect of it. We must deal also with some of the deeply concerned about the issue while trying to other issues that arise, such as parental responsi- buy a replica kit for his young son, as he found bility or where the money is going in local auth- that his son would be walking around bearing the orities to handle the difficulties being faced by logo of a drinks company. This should be raised communities. There must be a combined with the Minister for Health and Children. My response. constituent attempted to do so and was informed I ask the Leader to come back to the House by the Minister that there was no legislative rem- after the Easter recess with the Minister for edy available to the Department of Health and Justice, Equality and Law Reform and the Mini- Children to deal with it. However, in Britain, sters for Education and Science, the Envir- football shirts in children’s sizes are no longer onment, Heritage and Local Government and permitted to display the logos of alcohol compan- Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs to have ies from 1 January. The Minister should consider a discussion that will begin to address some of the this issue and I ask for a debate on this. issues about which Senators on all sides of the House are concerned. We are facing a change in Senators: Hear, hear. values and a breakdown in communities. These are not just empty words. There is a real chal- Senator Ivana Bacik: Certain other issues were lenge in terms of what we should do, what raised in the newspapers today and yesterday. resources are to be put in place and who will lead. One is the lack of funding for third level insti- This is a good place to begin that debate after tutions. The heads of the two big universities in Easter. Dublin, University College Dublin and Trinity College, have raised major concerns about the Senator Ivana Bacik: I thank my colleagues for lack of funding with the Minister for Education inviting me to be the first to speak. With regard and Science. We must consider this for the third to Senator Fitzgerald’s remarks about what hap- level sector.
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