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Prayer. 18/06/2015A00100Ceisteanna - Questions 18/06/2015A00200Priority Questions 18/06/2015A00250Beit Collection 18/06/2015A003001� Deputy Seán Ó Fearghaíl asked the Minister for Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht her views on the sale of paintings by the Alfred Beit Foundation; the action her Department can take on any sale; and if she will make a statement on the matter� [24010/15] 18/06/2015A00400Deputy Seán Ó Fearghaíl: In the past few weeks, since the media began to publicise the fact the Alfred Beit Foundation intended to sell quite a number of significant art works, includ- ing pieces by Rubens, there has been extensive public reaction and growing public concern about the fact that these art works, if sold, will pass out of the country and that the proceeds will be used to maintain Russborough House on an ongoing basis which many see as an unsustain- able action� We would like to hear what the Minister intends to do about the matter� 18/06/2015A00500Minister for Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht (Deputy Heather Humphreys): The sale of these paintings is a matter for the committee of management of the Alfred Beit Foundation which owns and operates Russborough House� My Department has no function in the admin- istration or sale of these art works� However, I did meet on Tuesday night with the chairperson of the Alfred Beit Foundation and two other trustees� I asked the chairperson if it would be possible to delay the sale or consider withdrawing the paintings from auction to provide some time in which to explore all other possible options that would involve my Department and the Office of Public Works. The trustees declined to either delay or cancel the sale, citing the fact that they would incur a liability of £1�4 million sterling for breaking an agreement with the auc- tion house handling the sale, with which they entered a contract several months ago� I was only informed last month of the decision on the sale, several months after the foundation had entered into an agreement with the auction house to have the paintings sold� The fact remains that my 2 18 June 2015 Department does not have the discretionary funds necessary - believed to be in the order of €12 million - to buy the paintings� I will, however, continue to see if other possible options can be explored. This will be very difficult, given that the sale is to proceed next month. 18/06/2015A00600Deputy Seán Ó Fearghaíl: I am concerned about the Minister’s response� First and fore- most, we understand from media reports that the Department was aware as far back as 2013 of the difficulties at Russborough House, although Deputy Heather Humphreys was not Minister at the time, and that Government aid was sought� What we are looking at is a situation in which, to meet the ongoing demand for about €1 million per annum, it has been decided to sell, if not the family silver, art works which were intended to be retained at Russborough House� There is a lot of public confusion about what the position is between the Alfred Beit Foundation and the State� It would useful, therefore, if in the course of this debate we were to clarify for the pub- lic that the 17 masterpieces bequeathed to the National Gallery of Ireland are in it and secure� None the less, there continues to be public concern about the works retained at Russborough House� It cannot continue selling art works in order to maintain the house� I put it to the Min- ister that she does have a responsibility in that regard� 18/06/2015A00700Deputy Heather Humphreys: The Alfred Beit Foundation met the former Minister for Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht a number of years ago. I am not aware that the specifics of the sale were discussed in 2013, but I want to be very clear that I was only informed of the decision last month. That was the first time I met the chairperson of the foundation, several months after it had entered into an agreement with Christie’s to have the paintings sold� During my meeting with the chairperson on Tuesday evening I made it clear that it would have been preferable if the trustees had come to me before making their decision to sell the paintings� The fact that they are now in an auction house in London makes this, as I said, a very difficult situation to unravel� Regardless of this, the fact remains that the Alfred Beit Foundation is an independent trust and I cannot instruct it on how it should do its business� I draw the Deputy’s attention to what it stated in a press release yesterday: The Alfred Beit Foundation (ABF) is the owner of the relevant paintings at the centre of the current sales; these paintings were not left to the State by the Beits ��� Before any sales plans were made, the perilous financial situation at Russborough... The trustees went through the position in great detail� They told me they had a masterplan and that this was part of it� We have to acknowledge the great work they have done in the past 40 years in terms of what they have provided in
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