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BEFORE THE CALIFORNIA CITIZENS REDISTRICTING COMMISSION In the matter of Full Commission Line-Drawing Meeting VOLUME II University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law Classroom C 3200 Fifth Avenue Sacramento, California Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:00 A.M. Reported by: Kent Odell CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 167 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 APPEARANCES Commissioners Present Angelo Ancheta, Chairperson Lilbert “Gil” Ontai, Vice-Chairperson Gabino Aguirre Vincent Barabba Maria Blanco Cynthia Dai Michelle DiGuilio Stanley Forbes Connie Galambos Malloy M. Andre Parvenu Jeanne Raya Michael Ward Jodie Filkins Webber Peter Yao Staff Present Dan Claypool, Executive Director Kirk Miller, Chief Legal Counsel Janeece Sargis, Administrative Assistant CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 168 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 APPEARANCES (CONT.) Consultants Present George Brown, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher Karin MacDonald, Q2 Data & Research, LLC Alex Woods, Q2 Data & Research, LLC Nicole Boyle, Q2 Data & Research, LLC Also Present Public Comment Sam Spagnolo Rionne Jones Alex Vargas Sandra Jerabek Manuel Salazar Robert Huber Rachael O‟Brien Jim Provenza Diane Parro Don Saylor Steve Macias Scott Rabb Matt Williams Julio Gonzalez Leonard Lanzi Linda Lambourne Scott Stepanik CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 169 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 APPEARANCES (CONT.) Tim Watkins Erica Teasley-Linnock Four Waters Alice Huffman Nik Bonovich Michele Martinez Richard Seyman Debra Howard Hugh Bower CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 170 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 I N D E X Page Introduction Public Comment Voting Rights Act Counsel - Question & Answer Session Technical/Outreach Discussion topics 1. Line Drawing Schedule and Public Comments on Visualizations 2. Final Report Drafting Process Legal Discussion Topics 1. Status of RFI for Litigation Counsel 2. Litigation Counsel - Consideration of Multiple Firms 3. Chief Counsel Report Finance and Administration Discussion Topics 1. RPV Contract 2. Q2 Contract 3. August Schedule Public Information Discussion topics 1. Update on Website and Media Activities Staff Reports Direction to Q2 for Line Drawing (Southern California Districts) Order of Districts: Congressional, Assembly, Senate CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 171 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 I N D E X Page Lunch Public Comment 173 Voting Rights Act Counsel -- Question & Answer Session 177 Continuing Direction to Q2 for Line Drawing (Southern California Districts) 188 Break 219 Continuation of Direction to Q2 for Line Drawing (Southern California Districts) 219 Break 291 Continuation of Direction to Q2 for Line Drawing (Southern California Districts) 292 Adjournment 385 Certificate of Reporter 386 1 CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 172 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 (Reconvened at 1:37 after the lunch break) 3 CHAIRPERSON ANCHETA: Okay, let‟s resume, it‟s 4 about 1:35 on Thursday, the 14th, the Citizens 5 Redistricting Commission. 6 Actually, through a miscommunication one of our -- 7 an individual who wanted to give a public comment was 8 misinformed about the time, so we‟re going to give him a 9 minute and a half to give some remarks. 10 MR. BOWER: Good afternoon, than you for the 11 accommodation on the time. My name‟s Hugh Bower and I‟m 12 here, today, representing the Pasadena Mayor, Bill Bogard. 13 I‟ve submitted a letter to the Commission today, on the 14 Mayor‟ behalf, and would like to take a brief moment to 15 address the Commission directly. 16 Mayor Bogard is serving his fourth four-year term 17 as Pasadena‟s first directly elected mayor, and given 18 Mayor Bogard‟s experience it lends him a unique 19 perspective on the operation of local government and the 20 importance of the relationship between a city and elected 21 representatives at other levels of government. 22 So, the Mayor would like to convey that the 23 Commission‟s current tentative boundaries for the Assembly 24 district that includes Pasadena, Altadena, South Pasadena 25 recognizes the close ethnic, social, economic, educational CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 173 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 1 and cultural ties that bind these three communities. This 2 approach appears optimal for the area, keeping in mind the 3 goal of strengthening the democratic process. 4 As you consider options, please continue to 5 recognize, as does the tentative configuration, the 6 importance and the benefits of keeping these three 7 communities together. 8 The Commission -- we recognize the Commission has 9 difficult choices to make and we‟re convinced that the 10 current proposal not only complies with redistricting 11 guidelines, but protects the public interests in the 12 region. 13 And thank you and I think I‟d be considered a 14 friend. 15 CHAIRPERSON ANCHETA: Great, thank you. Thank 16 you. 17 Okay, so before we get into continuing with our 18 districts, a couple things. First of all, Ms. MACDONALD 19 and I were conferring earlier just about trying to make 20 sure we do stay on schedule. And what I‟ve asked her to 21 do is put together sort of an optimal order of districts 22 and then what we‟re going to do is impose some time limits 23 based on regions. 24 Now, again, we are going to try to accommodate 25 what we know are going to be harder districts to go CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 174 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 1 through, so we‟re certainly not going to short change 2 that. 3 As you can tell from our last discussion, although 4 we did spend a fair amount of time on the 5 Coachella/Imperial district, we‟re moving at a pretty good 6 clip on most of the districts. So, hopefully, that will 7 be the case for a large number of districts. 8 But we will have to, at some point, just given the 9 limits of time try to stay within the structure. And Ms. 10 MACDONALD and I will try to formalize that a little bit 11 later this afternoon. 12 Commissioner DiGuilio? 13 COMMISSIONER DI GUILIO: Yeah, I just had a quick 14 question. I know Mr. Wilcox had asked me at lunch, I just 15 had a question for Alex about -- that‟s coming up on the 16 Statewide Database is Congressional So Cal option two and 17 three. Is there actually a one or is there only going to 18 be just two and three? 19 MS. WOODS: I did not get to option one. So, 20 those -- 21 COMMISSIONER DI GUILIO: So, it‟s just going to be 22 two and three? 23 MS. WOODS: Those options are based on the options 24 that Nicole created for Los Angeles. So, option two is 25 using the boundaries from Los Angeles option two and CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 175 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 1 option three is using the boundaries from Los Angeles 2 option three. 3 COMMISSIONER DI GUILIO: Okay, so just we 4 shouldn‟t expect -- I think that was to clarify some 5 questions. So, right now there‟s no Congressional So Cal 6 option one, we‟re just working from the two and three, 7 which are still a lot of options. 8 MS. WOODS: Correct. Thank you. 9 COMMISSIONER DI GUILIO: Uh-huh. 10 CHAIRPERSON ANCHETA: Okay, Commissioner Filkins 11 Webber and then Blanco? 12 COMMISSIONER FILKINS WEBBER: In that regard, Ms. 13 Woods, I notice that in option two and option three there 14 isn‟t any change to the Congressional as to region two, so 15 you didn‟t anticipate that any other version, this would 16 still be stable because I don‟t think there was any 17 changes? 18 MS. WOODS: So, the only differences between 19 region -- or option two and option three is in Orange 20 County. 21 COMMISSIONER FILKINS WEBBER: Thank you. 22 MS. WOODS: The rest of the counties are the same. 23 COMMISSIONER FILKINS WEBBER: Thank you. 24 CHAIRPERSON ANCHETA: And we‟ll address those as 25 we get to them. CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 176 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 1 Commissioner Blanco? 2 COMMISSIONER BLANCO: No, I didn‟t have anything. 3 CHAIRPERSON ANCHETA: Okay. Okay, I‟m not sure if 4 Commissioner Forbes is -- but what I wanted to do, also, 5 just because we did have a few questions left over from 6 the session with Mr. Brown is to maybe spend about maybe 7 ten minutes or so, if there‟s any remaining questions, and 8 particularly -- well, regarding the memo. 9 As a reminder, we will be going into closed 10 session with Mr. Brown and Dr. Barreto, but that should be 11 limited to, you know, potential litigation issues. So, in 12 order to maintain the spirit of Bagley-Keene we want to 13 make sure that if it‟s a more general question, that it be 14 addressed in open session. 15 But we do want to get back to the line drawing so 16 if there are -- I think Commissioner Parvenu may have had 17 a question from earlier? 18 COMMISSIONER PARVENU: And Mr. Forbes, too, 19 Commissioner Forbes, but I‟ll begin. 20 Getting back to the memorandum, on page 1 it 21 stated in the second paragraph, “Section 2 likely requires 22 that the Commission creates several Latino majority 23 districts in Los Angeles County.” 24 It doesn‟t say it‟s absolutely required to. 25 What‟s missing here for me, or what‟s absent is a CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 177 52 Longwood Drive, San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 457-4417 1 discussion or framework within background of the extent of 2 cooperation that existed between Latino organizations and 3 African American organizations, which is evidenced by the 4 MALDEF maps, for example, which respects certain districts 5 to the west that were traditionally represented by African 6 American candidates.