Nunavut Canada

LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF NUNAVUT

3rd Session 3rd Assembly

HANSARD

Official Report

DAY 25

Thursday, October 27, 2011

Pages 1375 – 1428

Iqaluit

Speaker: The Honourable Hunter Tootoo, M.L.A.

Legislative Assembly of Nunavut

Speaker Hon. Hunter Tootoo (Iqaluit Centre) Hon. Eva Aariak Joe Enook Allan Rumbolt (Iqaluit East) (Tununiq) (Hudson Bay) Premier; Minister of Education; Deputy Chair, Committee of the Whole Minister of Executive and Hon. Fred Schell Intergovernmental Affairs; Minister Hon. Lorne Kusugak (South Baffin) responsible for Aboriginal Affairs; (Rankin Inlet South – Whale Cove) Minister of Human Resources Minister responsible for Immigration; Government House Leader; Minister of Minister responsible for the Status of Community and Government Services; Hon. Daniel Shewchuk (Arviat) Women Minister of Energy; Minister Minister of Environment; Minister responsible for the Qulliq Energy responsible for Nunavut Arctic Hon. James Arreak Corporation (Uqqummiut) College Minister of Culture, Language, Elders John Ningark Louis Tapardjuk and Youth; Minister of Languages; (Akulliq) (Amittuq) Minister responsible for the Utility Johnny Ningeongan Deputy Chair, Committee of the Rates Review Council (Nanulik) Whole

Deputy Speaker and Chair of the Moses Aupaluktuq Hon. Peter Taptuna Committee of the Whole (Baker Lake) (Kugluktuk)

Hezakiah Oshutapik Deputy Premier; Minister of Hon. Tagak Curley (Pangnirtung) Economic Development and (Rankin Inlet North) Transportation Minister of Health and Social Services; Hon. Keith Peterson Minister responsible for the Nunavut (Cambridge Bay) Jeannie Ugyuk Housing Corporation; Minister Minister of Finance, Chair of the (Nattilik) responsible for Homelessness; Minister Financial Management Board; Minister responsible for the Workers’ Safety and of Justice Compensation Commission

Monica Ell (Iqaluit West)

Ron Elliott (Quttiktuq) Officers Clerk John Quirke

Deputy Clerk Clerk Assistant Law Clerk Sergeant-at-Arms Hansard Production Nancy Tupik Stephen Innuksuk Michael Chandler Simanek Kilabuk Innirvik Support Services

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Table of Contents

Opening Prayer ...... 1375

Ministers’ Statements ...... 1375

Members’ Statements ...... 1379

Returns to Oral Questions ...... 1382

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery ...... 1382

Oral Questions ...... 1383

Revert to Item 5: Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery ...... 1398

Tabling of Documents ...... 1399

Second Reading of Bills ...... 1399

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters ...... 1403

Committee Motions ...... 1418

Report of the Committee of the Whole ...... 1427

Third Reading of Bills ...... 1427

Orders of the Day ...... 1428

A. Daily References

Thursday, October 27, 2011 ...... 1375

B. Ministers’ Statements

089 – 3(3): Community Tourism and Cultural Industries Program (Taptuna) ...... 1375

090 – 3(3): Nunavut’s Surplus Sealskin Inventory Sold Entirely (Shewchuk) ...... 1376

091 – 3(3): Disability Portfolio Advancement (Aariak) ...... 1376

092 – 3(3): National Aboriginal Firefighters Games (Kusugak) ...... 1377

093 – 3(3): Arviat Leadership Resiliency Program (Aariak) ...... 1378

094 – 3(3): Improvements to Arts Branding (Taptuna) ...... 1378

C. Members’ Statements

135 – 3(3): Recognition of Silas Tookalook (Rumbolt) ...... 1379

136 – 3(3): Reflections on Three Years in Office (Elliott) ...... 1379

137 – 3(3): Appreciation to Iqaluit Walrus Hunters (Ell) ...... 1380

138 – 3(3): A Youth Centre for Kugluktuk (Taptuna) ...... 1381

D. Returns to Oral Questions

Return to Oral Question 163 – 3(3): Government of Nunavut’s Response as per Tabled Document

92 – 3(3) (Schell) ...... 1382

E. Oral Questions

198 – 3(3): Status of Nunavut’s Language Legislation (Tapardjuk) ...... 1383

199 – 3(3): New Licence Plate for Nunavut (Rumbolt) ...... 1386

200 – 3(3): Support for Mental Health Issues (Aupaluktuq) ...... 1387

201 – 3(3): NHC Operations (Ell) ...... 1389

202 – 3(3): Probation Services across Nunavut (Ugyuk) ...... 1391

203 – 3(3): Adult Learning Policy Division (Elliott) ...... 1393

204 – 3(3): Process of NNI Appeals (Enook)...... 1395

205 – 3(3): Language Requirements for Business under Languages Act (Tapardjuk) ...... 1396

F. Tabling of Documents

116 – 3(3): Provincial/Territorial Meeting of Ministers Responsible for Local Government Report

July 12 to 14, 2011 (Kusugak) ...... 1399

117 – 3(3): 2011-2012 Crown Agency Council’s Letters of Expectation (Peterson) ...... 1399

118 – 3(3): Interim Financial Report (Unaudited) as of March 31, 2011 (Peterson) ...... 1399

G. Committee Motions

003 – 3(3): Motion to Amend Schedule of Bill 15 (Peterson) ...... 1418

004 – 3(3): Motion to Amend Subsection 3(2) of Bill 15 (Peterson) ...... 1418

H. Bills

Bill 22 – An Act Respecting the Constituencies of Nunavut – Second Reading ...... 1399

Bill 15 – Appropriation (Capital) Act, 2012-2013 – Nunavut Arctic College – Consideration in

Committee ...... 1403

Bill 15 – Appropriation (Capital) Act, 2012-2013 – Culture, Language, Elders and Youth –

Consideration in Committee ...... 1409

Bill 15 – Appropriation (Capital) Act, 2012-2013 – Legislative Assembly – Consideration in

Committee ...... 1413

Bill 15 – Appropriation (Capital) Act, 2012-2013 – Consideration in Committee ...... 1417

Bill 13 – Supplementary Appropriation (Operations & Maintenance) Act, No. 2, 2011-2012 –

Consideration in Committee ...... 1419

Bill 14 – Supplementary Appropriation (Capital) Act, No. 2, 2011-2012 – Consideration in

Committee ...... 1426

Bill 13 – Supplementary Appropriation (Operations & Maintenance) Act, No. 2, 2011-2012 –

Third Reading ...... 1427

Bill 15 –Appropriation (Capital) Act, 2012-2013 – Third Reading ...... 1427

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Iqaluit, Nunavut tourism strategy, we expected to hear Thursday, October 27, 2011 about tourism potential and assets. In Members Present: every community and with Honourable Eva Aariak, Honourable overwhelming repetition, we heard the James Arreak, Mr. Moses Aupaluktuq, need for more capacity and more Honourable Tagak Curley, Ms. Monica infrastructures for production, Ell, Mr. Ron Elliott, Mr. Joe Enook, promotion, and distribution of our arts Honourable Lorne Kusugak, Mr. Johnny and crafts to tourists. Ningeongan, Mr. Hezakiah Oshutapik, Honourable Keith Peterson, Mr. Allan Today I am proud to advise you and the Rumbolt, Honourable Fred Schell, House of new funding for initiatives that Honourable Daniel Shewchuk, Mr. link tourism and cultural industries. The Louis Tapardjuk, Honourable Peter Community Tourism and Cultural Taptuna, Honourable Hunter Tootoo, Industries Program is a three-year Ms. Jeannie Ugyuk. commitment to boost community strengths in arts and crafts and improve Item 1: Opening Prayer their link to tourism.

Speaker (Hon. Hunter Tootoo): Mr. Speaker, hundreds of artists, arts Qujannamiik, Sergeant-at-Arms. Before organizations and communities will use we get started, I would like to ask Ms. this funding to create more benefit from Ugyuk if she could lead us off with a the tourists who come for business or prayer, please. pleasure. The program will repair and expand existing arts infrastructure. It >>Prayer will invest in new infrastructure linking cultural industries and tourism, such as Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ugyuk. retail spaces with room for cultural Moving on to the orders of the day. Item demonstrations. It will help small 2. Ministers’ Statements. Minister of businesses in either cultural industries or Economic Development and tourism improve their marketing and Transportation, Minister Taptuna. make more sales of arts and crafts to tourists. The program will help Item 2: Ministers’ Statements communities do the same for cruise ship visitors. Minister’s Statement 089 – 3(3): Community Tourism and Cultural The Community Tourism and Cultural Industries Program (Taptuna) Industries Program will also help communities plan the way they want Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. their community to work and look and Speaker. Good afternoon, colleagues and foster community pride. Nunavummiut Nunavummiut. Mr. Speaker, in should be proud of the contributions Tamapta, we committed to increasing tourism and cultural industries make not support for culture and the arts. only to our economy but to our quality of life, the preservation of our language When we held consultations this spring and culture, and the global voice we are as part of our work on the upcoming granted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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>>Applause our products both domestically and in China, the world’s largest fur Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. manufacturing market. Item 2. Ministers’ Statements. Minister of Environment, Minister Shewchuk. Mr. Speaker, we will continue to support Nunavut seal hunters and work to ensure Minister’s Statement 090 – 3(3): that good market opportunities exist for Nunavut’s Surplus Sealskin the products of this sustainable harvest. Inventory Sold Entirely Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Shewchuk) Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, >>Applause Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to announce that Nunavut’s sealskin inventory, which Speaker: Thank you, Minister two years ago totalled over 11,000 skins, Shewchuk. Item 2. Ministers’ has been entirely sold. Of approximately Statements. Minister responsible for 6,000 skins available for sale in June Executive and Intergovernmental 2011, one-third was purchased within Affairs, Madam Premier. Canada and the remainder was recently bought by a Chinese buyer. Minister’s Statement 091 – 3(3): Disability Portfolio Advancement Over the past two years, my department (Aariak) has supported several successful Hon. Eva Aariak (interpretation): initiatives to increase utilization of Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good sealskins within Nunavut. These include afternoon to my constituents of Iqaluit a seal leather pilot project, a dressed East. Mr. Speaker, last March, I had the sealskin retail pilot project, and two honour of attending the first ever dressed sealskin sales hosted by the meeting of provincial and territorial Nunavut Arts and Crafts Association ministers responsible for persons with here in Iqaluit. disabilities in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Since then, I have been working with the We have also been active in promoting Department of Executive and our Dressed Sealskins for Nunavummiut Intergovernmental Affairs to move this Program here in Nunavut and supporting portfolio forward. The meeting allowed the efforts of the Nunavut Fur Guild, ministers to consider ways to support the featured in the 2011 Nunavut Designers United Nations Convention on the catalogue. Outside the territory, we Rights of Persons with Disabilities and promoted Nunavut sealskins at fur to improve the lives of people with industry trade shows in Montreal and disabilities through coordinated efforts. Beijing in 2010 and 2011. Mr. Speaker, as a follow-up to this Prices for Nunavut sealskins remain low important meeting and in an effort to compared to those preceding the advance the disability portfolio in European Union ban, but the recent sale Nunavut, I am pleased to announce that of Nunavut sealskins into the Canadian my department’s Social Advocacy and Chinese markets is a positive sign Office has established a dedicated that interests are starting to increase for disability policy position, which was

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1377 staffed as of October 25, 2011. This Speaker: Thank you, Madam Premier. senior advisor, disability issues position Item 2. Ministers’ Statements. Minister will contribute to the development of responsible for Community and Government of Nunavut policies, Government Services, Minister programs, and legislation to improve the Kusugak. economic, legal, and social status of persons with disabilities. Minister’s Statement 092 – 3(3): National Aboriginal Firefighters Mr. Speaker, while my department is the Games (Kusugak) policy lead on the disability file, other departments will continue to oversee the Hon. Lorne Kusugak (interpretation): services and programs offered by their Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good respective departments that relate to afternoon to the people of Rankin Inlet disabilities. However, a key and Whale Cove. Mr. Speaker, today I responsibility of this position will be to would like you to join me to offer provide a centralized research, analysis, congratulations to a select group of and coordinating function for firefighters from throughout Nunavut. government departments in relation to disability policy. This individual will Eight of our Nunavut firefighters took work with government departments and part in the National Aboriginal will represent Nunavut in a wide variety Firefighter Games in Winnipeg. Mr. of local, territorial, federal government Speaker, these individuals are George and non-government groups and Aksadjuak and Troy Innukshuk of organizations to jointly identify and Rankin Inlet, Frederick Morrison and address priority issues and concerns. Jollie Enoogoo of Pond Inlet, Cody Evaloakjuk of Coral Harbour, Randy Mr. Speaker, the creation of this position Idlout of Resolute Bay, Norman Qavvik is a major step forward for the of Kugaaruk, and Pauloosie Kowmageak disabilities portfolio in Nunavut. of Cape Dorset. Including the disability policy file in the Social Advocacy Office will ensure a While Team Nunavut might not have more structured and holistic response to been declared the winner in competition disability-related issues, which in turn among the eight teams overall, their will support the Government of performance was deemed flawless by the Nunavut’s Tamapta priority of helping judges. Mr. Speaker, it’s rare in these those at risk in our communities. events that a team would come away with no penalties at all. That Mr. Speaker, I look forward to briefing accomplishment earned Team Nunavut my colleagues on the future work and the “Most Sportsmanlike Team” trophy. developments on issues related to Congratulations to the firefighters and persons with disabilities in Nunavut. thank you to all firefighters in Nunavut Thank you, Mr. Speaker. for the work they do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause >>Applause

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Speaker: Thank you, Minister Kusugak. weekly sessions focusing on self- Item 2. Ministers’ Statements. Minister development, managing personal and responsible for Executive and family stress, learning from our elders, Intergovernmental Affairs, Madam and improving the environment in their Premier. community. Once a month, the youth will take part in a high adventure Minister’s Statement 093 – 3(3): activity, such as sea kayaking or Arviat Leadership Resiliency adventure photography, that will help Program (Aariak) them become more self-reliant and proud of their community. Hon. Eva Aariak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would Mr. Speaker, the leadership resiliency like to speak to my colleagues about a program supports our vision of having school and community program in individuals, families, and communities Arviat that is helping high school in Nunavut that are active, healthy, and students develop their own personal happy. Let us all follow Arviat’s lead. strengths, build healthy relationships and Thank you, Mr. Speaker. healthy communities. >>Applause This fall, John Arnalukjuaq High School in Arviat will be offering Ungasiktumut Speaker: Thank you, Madam Premier. I Isumaksaqsiujuniq – Taking the Long apologize. That statement was read as View Leadership Resiliency Program. the Minister of Education and not The staff at John Arnalukjuaq High Executive and Intergovernmental School designed this program and the Affairs. Item 2. Ministers’ Statements. federal Department of Public Safety will Minister responsible for Economic provide $2.2 million in funding over five Development and Transportation, years for this project. Minister Taptuna.

Mr. Speaker, the leadership resiliency Minister’s Statement 094 – 3(3): program is supported by the community Improvements to Arts Branding of Arviat through their interagency (Taptuna) committee and the Arviat District Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Education Authority will provide Speaker. In 2009, this government administrative and operational support released the Authentic Nunavut brand to for the project. This project is guided by bring international recognition to Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit and with a Nunavut’s arts and crafts. The Authentic strong focus on working and learning Nunavut brand tells buyers that all arts together and passing on life skills and and crafts bearing it are hand made by a principles for living. Nunavut artist. It promotes Nunavut works over imitations, makes our arts Youth from ages 14 to 19 who are not and crafts recognizable around the currently attending school on a regular world, and adds value for which buyers basis and students who are attending are willing to pay a premium. school but not thriving in the regular education programs will be attending

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Mr. Speaker, since 2009, Nunavut’s Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. estimated 4,000 artists have purchased Good afternoon to the people of Authentic Nunavut tags and stickers Sanikiluaq. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to from one Nunavut office. As we look at recognize the long-standing service of our programs through a poverty Silas Tookalook to the community of reduction lens, it has become evident Sanikiluaq. Mr. Speaker, Silas that it is time to change the pricing and Tookalook held the fuel contract for the distribution of Authentic Nunavut tags community of Sanikiluaq for the past 35 and stickers. Mr. Speaker, effective years. immediately, all Authentic Nunavut tags, stickers, and marketing materials will be Many organizations, including our available for free to our artisans and government, stage events to recognize craftspeople. the long-term service of its employees. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Tookalook was not a Our partners, the Nunavut Arts and government employee but I feel his Crafts Association and the Nunavut long-term contribution deserves Development Corporation, as well as the recognition. regional offices of the Department of Economic Development and Mr. Speaker, Mr. Tookalook has decided Transportation can now accept orders for to end his career in the fuel business. As Authentic Nunavut tags and stickers. We of 6:00 p.m. on Monday, October 25, are actively pursuing other opportunities 2011, Mr. Tookalook will no longer be to get the tags and stickers into artisans’ providing the service. It will now be hands in every community. provided by the local Mitiq Co-op.

Mr. Speaker, in Tamapta, we committed Mr. Speaker, I ask my colleagues to join to reducing poverty and increasing me in congratulating Mr. Tookalook on support for culture and the arts. With this his long career. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. change to the administration of the Authentic Nunavut brand, we are >>Applause making progress on both commitments. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Rumbolt. Item 3. Members’ Statements. Member for >>Applause Quttiktuq, Mr. Elliott.

Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. Member’s Statement 136 – 3(3): Item 2. Ministers’ Statements. Item 3. Reflections on Three Years in Member Statements. Member for Office (Elliott) Hudson Bay, Mr. Rumbolt. Mr. Elliott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I Item 3: Members’ Statements rise to reflect on the milestone that we have reached today. Mr. Speaker, Member’s Statement 135 – 3(3): today’s date is October 27, 2011. Recognition of Silas Tookalook October 27, 2008 was one of the most (Rumbolt) incredible days of my life. On that date, I was entrusted with the honour of

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1380 representing the good people of Grise my best to uphold the solemn Oath of Fiord, Resolute Bay, and Arctic Bay in Office that I took three years ago in this this House. very place. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I vividly remember the >>Applause range of emotions that I felt three years ago as I contemplated the Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Elliott, and responsibilities and challenges that lay happy anniversary, I guess. ahead of me. Mr. Speaker, the last three years have passed very quickly for me. I >>Laughter want to take this opportunity today to once again recommit myself to faithfully Item 3. Members’ Statements. Member representing the concerns, priorities, and for Iqaluit West, Madam Ell. aspirations of my constituents. Member’s Statement 137 – 3(3): Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my Appreciation to Iqaluit Walrus constituents for their willingness to Hunters (Ell) provide me with their input, suggestions, and recommendations. I could not do my Ms. Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. job properly unless I had their support Speaker. Good afternoon to the people and I look forward to continuing with of Iqaluit West watching the the open and honest dialogue that I have proceedings. I would like thank the with them. individuals whom we hardly ever mention, the people in my constituency. Mr. Speaker, as the only Member of the There were three boats going out on a Legislative Assembly whose walrus hunt. On Monday, they provided constituency includes three walrus meat to many Iqaluit residents. communities, I have appreciated the For many years, there have been annual understanding of my constituents when walrus harvests. circumstances have sometimes not allowed me to travel as often as I would Although they don’t like to be like to. recognized, I would like to thank the following people: Mr. Speaker, I consider all three communities that I represent to be part On Loasie’s boat: of the High Arctic family. As with all Loasie Aniknilialik families, we experience moments of joy Moses Attagoyuk and moments of sorrow. I continue to be Eegeesiak Shoo committed to representing all of my communities with equal passion. On Jason’s boat: Jason Aliqatuktuq Mr. Speaker, earlier in our sitting, I Jimmy Noble Jr. noted the sign of progress and movement David Alexander on a number of issues that impact all of Stephan Noble my communities. As we look ahead to the next two years, I will continue to do On Russel Chislett’s big boat:

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Russel Chislett unused building originally used for Gary Eeseemailee another purpose into a youth centre. The David Kolola need for partnership in this project was Joshua Mike identified early and so the Department of Geetaloo Kakkee CLEY was approached. I am pleased to Nuna Michael say that the application was successful Iola Shoo and the project received funding from Marcus Chislett the Department of CLEY. Rick Ningeocheak Mr. Speaker, the youth and the hamlet I would like to thank the Qikiqtaaluk staff did not stop there. Broken Hill Corporation for providing the fuel for Proprietary, also known as BHP Mines, the hunt. was also approached to donate and support the gym project of the youth The hunters also shared in the bounty for centre. I am happy to announce that BHP their own sustenance and they will be donating all the gym equipment volunteered their boats for this hunt, as needed to run a full modern gym that well as donated their time for this walrus will be used by all community members hunt, so I extend my sincerest to enjoy. appreciation to these dedicated hunters. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the youth centre will allow the opportunities for students to have a >>Applause place to go and to hang with friends, a place where they can study for school Speaker: Thank you, Madam Ell. Item and get additional help for their studies, 3. Members’ Statements. Member for if needed. Kugluktuk, Mr. Taptuna. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this Member’s Statement 138 – 3(3): A time to recognize the good work of the Youth Centre for Kugluktuk hamlet staff, municipal leaders, students, (Taptuna) and the good people of Kugluktuk, Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. which they have done in getting the Speaker. Good morning to youth centre project to where it is today Kuglukturmiut. Mr. Speaker, I rise today Furthermore, I thank the Department of to inform the House about a project that CLEY and BHP for their continued my community of Kugluktuk is doing. support for this important project. Thank As you know, Nunavut has a high you, Mr. Speaker. percentage of youth in our society and many times, we hear the same criticism >>Applause that there is not enough for youth to do after school or during the evenings. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Taptuna. Item 3. Members’ Statements. Item 4. Returns Mr. Speaker, my community looked at to Oral Questions. Minister responsible this need and with the guidance and help for the Department of Human Resources, of the hamlet staff and municipal Minister Schell. leaders, saw an opportunity to convert an

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Item 4: Returns to Oral Questions 5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery. Minister Schell. Return to Oral Question 163 – 3(3): Government of Nunavut’s Item 5: Recognition of Visitors in the Response as per Tabled Document Gallery 92 – 3(3) (Schell) Hon. Fred Schell: Thank you, Mr. Hon. Fred Schell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I would like to Speaker. My response to the question recognize family, friends, and mentors asked by Mr. Tapardjuk. The question of our newest graduate of the new was: “…the Auditor General’s report Sivuliqtiksat program and that is Nancy provided recommendation #4. When the Kisa. Her friends and relatives are Silina government provided a response, it Windsor, Annie Pitseolak, Saila Kisa, stated that as of March 2011, the Inuit Walter Morey, and her mentor Barbara Employment Plan was completed and Stevens. that it was submitted to the Executive Council of Nunavut. In June 2011, the I would also like all of us to congratulate number of Inuit employees was our newest Sivuliqtiksat graduate, who is identified in time for the fall session. Nancy Kisa. Nancy is the new Director of Health and Social Services in Rankin …can the minister provide the Inlet. She will join the previous information as to when these numbers Sivuliqtiksat graduates to continue will be available? Will it be available leading us towards a representative after the session and how complex is this government. I encourage all departments report now?” to create success stories such as this by continuing to support the Sivuliqtiksat The response is: the Government of program. I also attended the graduation Nunavut, since its beginning, has last night and it was very lovely, dedicated itself to achieving a rewarding, and also very emotional. representative qualified workforce. Thank you. Human Resources is committed to working with all departments on >>Applause increasing Inuit employment in the public service through the annual Speaker: Thank you. Welcome to the business planning process. The 2012-15 Gallery. Recognition of Visitors in the business plan will be submitted to the Gallery. Member for Pangnirtung, Mr. Legislative Assembly during the winter Oshutapik. session and will include Inuit employment planning, including both Mr. Oshutapik (interpretation): Thank short- and medium-term objectives you, Mr. Speaker. I believe these are the towards increasing Inuit employment. same individuals who were recognized, Thank you, Mr. Speaker. but they’re my fellow residents.

Speaker: Thank you, Minister Schell. The mother who was just recognized, Item 4. Returns to Oral Questions. Item Saila Kisa, is a member of the elders’ committee and has been part of many

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1383 committees and is very active in our Question 198 – 3(3): Status of community, so I would like to welcome Nunavut’s Language Legislation her to the Gallery. Her younger sister (Tapardjuk) Annie Pitseolak used to live in an Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank outpost camp outside of Pangnirtung but you, Mr. Speaker. I still haven’t received has now returned to Pangnirtung, so I a response from the Minister of would like to welcome her. Languages, my Annuraaqatik.

Silina Kisa-Windsor, who also worked at Mr. Speaker, as the minister is aware, our health centre for social services, I NTI’s recently released report on the would like to welcome her as well. I am state of Inuit culture and society focuses very thankful to her younger sister on concerns about the Inuit language in Nancy Kisa because she was able to Nunavut. complete her courses. So please welcome them to the House. NTI’s report notes that “Without an expanding cadre of educated, Inuktitut >>Applause and Inuinnaqtun speaking professionals possessing the requisite skills needed to Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Oshutapik. implement the provisions of the Inuit Welcome to the Gallery. Recognition of Language Protection Act, Education Act, Visitors in the Gallery. Minister and the Official Languages Act... the Kusugak. bilingual society envisioned by Nunavut stakeholders will not materialize.” Hon. Lorne Kusugak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to take this Mr. Speaker, can the minister provide a opportunity to welcome Walter Morey to clear update on the plans to bring into the Assembly. Enjoy your visit. Thank force Nunavut’s new Official Languages you, Mr. Speaker. Act and those sections of the Inuit Language Protection Act which are not >>Applause yet in force? I would like to get an update from the minister, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Kusugak. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery. I Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. would like to welcome everyone else Minister responsible for Languages, here who hasn’t been recognized. It’s Minister Arreak. good to see young people and members of the public joining us for our Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): proceedings. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my Annuraaqatik for raising that question. Moving on in the Orders of the Day, This work has been ongoing since 2008, Item 6. Oral Questions. Member for when the language legislation was Amittuq, Mr. Tapardjuk. passed. Some of these items were initiated immediately and other action Item 6: Oral Questions items are still being initiated.

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Further, this spring, I introduced My question is: when will they initiate Uqausivut. We tried to get feedback the implementation? I would like a from interested individuals as to how we response to that, Mr. Speaker. could increase the usage of the Inuit language and what people have to say Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. about this issue. To date, we have Minister responsible for Languages, received approximately 30 submissions Minister Arreak. from individuals, regional Inuit organizations, as well as government Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): agencies and non-governmental Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I stated organizations. earlier, in the year 2008, when the legislation was approved, these action We are trying to implement provisions items were immediately started. I believe of the Education Act, but due to the fact the member, my Annuraaqatik, recalls that the school year just started, I believe when it started. To date, there are a lot of the focus is on reaching either grade 3 or items requiring action. We are being grade 6. We’re trying to move it up to cautious by not being hasty in our the higher grades until they can reach planning as we want to ensure we have a our legislative requirement. good plan to implement the legislation at the Department of CLEY. At this time, We are all pushing and encouraging for work is still ongoing. the usage of Inuktitut. One of our goals is to have fully fluent Inuktitut speakers Some of the initiatives we introduced take on careers and any profession they this spring that I referred to will be want. We’re trying to urge the hamlets to announced later. The plans include the work with us as well as other start dates of these items, but once we government departments to utilize have received more response and the Inuktitut as much as we have asked for. Department of Culture, Language, Elders and Youth officials have had time As a government, we are thankful for to revamp the plan, it will move faster. what we have received from the NTI We are making progress and drafting report and that it’s now available for the plans to see how we can restart the public to read. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. initiatives to use the Inuit language. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Arreak. Your first supplementary, Mr. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Arreak. Tapardjuk. Your second supplementary, Mr. Tapardjuk. Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister of Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank Languages. I want a response to this you, Mr. Speaker. I do recall and question because I want to understand it understand that some provisions of the regarding the Official Languages Act. I Inuit Language Protection Act have been believe it has already been passed by started. It highlights there exactly which Canada’s House of Commons. I know action items with the dates listed. that we already passed it in this House.

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Mr. Speaker, what I’m trying to ask Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank about is the Official Languages Act, you, Mr. Speaker. I will definitely want which is the recognition of the official to speak to you in private. languages in Nunavut. It has been approved both by the territorial Mr. Speaker, the results of the GN legislature as well as the House of Report Card “Qanukkanniq” indicated Commons, including the Senate. that, “Despite a powerful mandate that However, this legislation has not started captures Nunavummiut’s cultural vision, yet. When will the Official Languages and recent initiatives that include the Act be initiated? Thank you, Mr. Official Languages Act and Inuit Speaker. Language Protection Act, the public perceives almost zero delivery by the Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. GN.” Can the minister explain what Minister responsible for Languages, factors contribute to the public Minister Arreak. perception that the government is not doing anything to promote Inuit Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): language use as stated in Qanukkanniq? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The legislation Thank you, Mr. Speaker. is in the process of being implemented. As I have stated, we have requested Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. submissions from members, individuals, Minister responsible for Languages, government departments, corporations, Minister Arreak. regional Inuit organizations, and any interested party in the communities. We Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): have received some responses to our Thank you, Mr. Speaker. These are the request for feedback. As I have stated types of issues that we want to hear earlier, we have received over 30 about as to which aspects of the submissions. legislation we have yet to implement. We are trying to kick-start the usage of This legislation’s implementation has Inuktitut in all areas. begun, but we would also like to hear actual details as to which aspects of the Just recently last month, in September, legislation you feel haven’t been the Inuit Language Authority became an implemented. If you provide more arm’s-length committee from the feedback as to which particular part of government and we gave them the the legislation hasn’t been initiated, then authority to work on Inuit terminology. I can provide a more detailed response to In that same month, we also initiated a my colleague, my Annuraaqatik. Thank program for government offices, you, Mr. Speaker. especially a directive to have more responses sent in Inuktitut and to ensure Speaker: Thank you, Minister Arreak. that Inuktitut is used more often in the Your final supplementary, Mr. workplace, not just in Inuktitut but in Tapardjuk. any language that they felt most comfortable with. It was approved last month to begin this month and it has commenced.

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We are encouraging workers to use the Development and Transportation, language of their choice in the Minister Taptuna. workplace and that policy has been approved. We don’t want certain Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. languages to be dominant over other Speaker. I appreciate the question from languages. This has also been approved, the Member of Hudson Bay. Mr. but if it has not been publicized enough, Speaker, like he says, the polar bear was we can try to make more in use since 1999. That was a borrowed announcements. Thank you, Mr. design from the NWT days. Of course, Speaker. for the short answer, there were over 200 submissions for the new design and yes, Speaker: Thank you, Minister Arreak. four of them have been selected. Thank Oral Questions. Member for Hudson you, Mr. Speaker. Bay, Mr. Rumbolt. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. Question 199 – 3(3): New Licence Your first supplementary, Mr. Rumbolt. Plate for Nunavut (Rumbolt) Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The minister announced that the four I would like to direct my questions to the finalists would receive $500 each. I am Minister of Economic Development and sure that those who submitted designs Transportation. would like to know the results. Can the minister describe the variety of Mr. Speaker, my questions are about submissions that were received and what polar bears but not the fat and furry kind. factors are causing the delay in choosing I would like to ask about the thin metal the winning design? Thank you, Mr. kind, the ones that are currently used as Speaker. Nunavut’s licence plates. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Rumbolt. In August of this year, the minister Minister responsible for Economic announced a Nunavut licence plate Development and Transportation, design contest to replace the polar bear Minister Taptuna. licence plate that has been used on Nunavut’s vehicles since 1999. The Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. contest closed on August 26, 2011 and I Speaker. I thank the member for that understand that a number of submissions question. Absolutely, the four finalists were received. will be receiving their awards as advertised. There’s no real delay in Can the minister update this House on selecting the licence plate for how many submissions were received Nunavummiut, it’s just a matter of and whether his committee of artists has dotting i’s and crossing t’s and going narrowed the submissions down to four from there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. finalists? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Rumbolt. Your second supplementary, Mr. Minister responsible for Economic Rumbolt.

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Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. address mental health issues? Thank It has been noted that the NWT owns the you, Mr. Speaker. copyright to the polar bear design and Nunavut’s ability to use it will soon Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Aupaluktuq. expire. Can the minister inform this Minister responsible for Health and House when Nunavut will no longer be Social Services, Minister Curley. allowed to use the polar bear licence plate? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Tagak Curley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think the member is quite well Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Rumbolt. aware that in terms of the Nunavut Minister responsible for Economic government, the Nunavut government is Development and Transportation, about 11 years old. Currently we are Minister Taptuna. guided by the Mental Health Strategy that was tabled by, I think, the First Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Assembly of 2002. That major strategy Speaker. We had ordered enough polar has now been considered by the Mental bear licences to get us to the stage where Health Division to actually create an we can roll out our new licence plates action plan. for Nunavummiut. Mr. Speaker, I’ve got to say that within ten days, that may The various action plans so far that have happen, where we roll out our new been developed include the Suicide design for the new licence plate for Prevention Plan as one of them. The Nunavummiut. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. other part of that component is the one that I alluded to with respect to the Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. Family Violence Strategy. An action Oral Questions. Member for Baker Lake, plan is being developed right now and Mr. Aupaluktuq. should be issued by the end of the year. Hopefully by next year, it will be Question 200 – 3(3): Support for incorporated into a funded program so Mental Health Issues that it becomes again a part of the living (Aupaluktuq) document of the Nunavut government. Mr. Aupaluktuq: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my In terms of the other programs, we are question to the Minister of Health and also currently working on the Substance Social Services, the Hon. Minister Tagak Abuse Program. During the standing Curley. committee appearance that we had yesterday, I alluded to some of the Mr. Speaker, in my statement yesterday, facilities that are being considered. I spoke of the need for supports and These have yet to be approved through resources to help Nunavummiut address the funding process that we have to go mental health issues within their through in the government as a whole. I communities. Can the minister clearly am hopeful that we will be able to make describe what kinds of supports and some announcements with respect to resources are available to community- treatment centres, including mobile based groups and organizations to treatment services that Nunavutmiut so badly needed.

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So I think that we are making progress. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Aupaluktuq. Not all the services have been Minister of Health and Social Services, incorporated so far. Along with that, we Minister Curley. have mental health nurses that are, in some places, based in Nunavut Hon. Tagak Curley: Thank you, Mr. communities through the public health Speaker. I certainly will be prepared to facilities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. update the House. I believe that during the winter session, a number of major Speaker: Thank you, Minister Curley. initiatives will be available for further Your first supplementary, Mr. information. Aupaluktuq. One part of the program that the member Mr. Aupaluktuq: Thank you, Mr. alluded to is the Community Wellness Speaker. I’m glad to know that. I’m sure Program. These have been very well the rest of the health care providers in received by the communities. These Nunavut would anticipate the outcome wellness committees in communities and more or less updates as to what work within their community to services we will be able to enhance. establish the kind of programs they want the department to fund. I believe Baker The question I had asked was in regard Lake has been one of the successful to supports and resources available to ones. community-based programs. Baker Lake has the Tunganiq Addiction Centre. We In terms of the other services that the have exceptional people who are giving member is asking for, I’ll be prepared to much of their time and have been asking announce in more detail once the cabinet for extra resources municipal-wise as has approved the sustainability and long- well as territorially. I look forward to term funding for the initiatives that we further enhancement of the information have in our work plan. Thank you, Mr. being provided to our health care Speaker. providers. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Curley. Mr. Speaker, one area that community- Your second supplementary, Mr. based programs often need help is in the Aupaluktuq. management and administration of their organization so that they can continue to Mr. Aupaluktuq: Thank you, Mr. deliver services. Can the minister update Speaker. We also have a men’s group in this House on the type of assistance his Baker Lake, a group of men who have department can provide to community- genuine concern for the well-being of based organizations, such as wellness our young gentlemen as well as other organizations, shelters, and others, to areas in life and their contributions to ensure that their management and society and their roles in our community. administration procedures are in order? With that, they have also addressed the Thank you, Mr. Speaker. fact that they needed to identify more relationships with professionals.

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Mr. Speaker, the lack of social workers, continue to provide communication, mental health workers, and alcohol and enquiries, as well as providing drug workers is an issue that has been information to our communities. It’s just raised many times. The minister has a comment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. given several updates on the number of social positions that are filled across Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Aupaluktuq. Nunavut. Can the minister update this It’s just a comment. Oral Questions. House on the number of mental health Member for Iqaluit West, Madam Ell. workers and alcohol and drug workers positions across the territory that remain Question 201 – 3(3): NHC Operations vacant? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Ell) Ms. Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Aupaluktuq. Speaker. I would like to direct my Minister of Health and Social Services, questions to the Minister responsible for Minister Curley. the Nunavut Housing Corporation. He’s a popular minister because housing is a Hon. Tagak Curley: Thank you, Mr. very important issue. Speaker. Yes, certainly, I will be prepared to do that. At the moment, I (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, on don’t have that information, but once January 20 of this year, the minister that information is available, I’ll be issued a news release titled “Nunavut prepared to announce it. Thank you, Mr. Housing Corporation Restructuring Speaker. Strengthens Operations.” It indicated that the Nunavut Housing Corporation Speaker: Thank you, Minister Curley. would relocate its finance division from Your final supplementary, Mr. its headquarters offices in Arviat to the Aupaluktuq. Nunavut Housing Corporation’s directorate office in Iqaluit. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Aupaluktuq: Thank you, Mr. can the minister indicate how many of Speaker. I appreciate the minister’s these positions are currently filled? response and I’m sure the rest of (interpretation) Thank you. Nunavut would greatly benefit from this. Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ell. Minister As we all know, aside from elders, our responsible for the Nunavut Housing most impacting resources are health care Corporation, Minister Curley. workers and those who assist in providing well-being to society as well Hon. Tagak Curley: Thank you, Mr. as our own territory. The minister has Speaker. That’s a very important indicated several times that he looks question. I’m prepared to provide the forward to providing updates in regard to detailed information. I am aware that at the status of the strategy, and we look least 50 percent of the positions have forward to the implementation of it as been filled. There are yet to be two more well. positions.

With that, I would like to assure the I was briefed the other day that that will minister that my colleagues and I will be announced shortly, but in order to

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1390 provide the very detailed information, were appointed. Thank you, Mr. once I have that information, I will Speaker. announce it again. Before the session is over, I’ll try and get an updated version Speaker: Thank you, Minister Curley. of the briefing that I had about a week Your second supplementary, Ms. Ell. ago, but I will be prepared to provide additional information once I have it. Ms. Ell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On Thank you, Mr. Speaker. November 27, 2009, the Nunavut Housing Corporation tabled its response Speaker: Thank you, Minister Curley. to the report of the Standing Committee Your first supplementary, Ms. Ell. on Oversight of Government Operations and Public Accounts. One Ms. Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. recommendation was to “work with Speaker. During the June sitting of the Local Housing Organizations to address Legislative Assembly, the housing the issue of rental arrears.” The Nunavut corporation amended its legislation to Housing Corporation’s response was that allow for the creation of a board of “a number of measures to address the directors as another means to improve its issue have been identified and will be governance structure. Has the minister implemented.” The NHC also indicated appointed members to the housing that “Calculation of the precise amount corporation board of directors and, if so, of current arrears due to each LHO, the who has been appointed? Thank you, NHC Chief Finance Officer will develop Mr. Speaker. a detailed procedure for collection of arrears by each LHO. An overview of Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ell. Minister this procedure will be available to all responsible for the Nunavut Housing tenants, so there is no question of the Corporation, Minister Curley. LHO’s authority.”

Hon. Tagak Curley (interpretation): Can the minister clarify if these have Thank you. That is an excellent question. been implemented and will be table a Last winter when there were meetings copy of this collection procedure on everywhere, we were reminded that the arrears to this Legislative Assembly? housing corporation needs to be Thank you, Mr. Speaker. constantly monitored and that it needs proper management. Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ell. Minister responsible for the Nunavut Housing Under my responsibility, we restructured Corporation, Minister Curley. the governance structure and senior management. A report was submitted Hon. Tagak Curley: Thank you. Mr. and approved by cabinet. I will make Speaker, rental arrears collection is one more announcements tomorrow on the of the top priorities of the Nunavut seven finance positions that were moved Housing Corporation. That particular file from Arviat to Iqaluit. I can say that throughout the previous years, in my cabinet has approved the new board of view, has not been treated as one of the directors and at the appropriate time priorities, but we are treating it as one of tomorrow, I will be advising you who the important files.

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The current administration of the look forward to making that report Nunavut Housing Corporation is available to all members. I don’t want to developing the program aspect of it and promise a date, but I believe before long, putting in more support to engage all our that report will be tabled, if not this local housing authorities to get serious session but in the winter session or so. with establishing procedures and we’re Thank you, Mr. Speaker. working with the LHOs throughout Nunavut. There has to be a proper Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Curley. Oral system developed and in place so that Questions. Member for Nattilik, Ms. individuals with serious arrears are not Ugyuk. immediately taken out of their house, but payment schedules would be worked out Question 202 – 3(3): Probation with those in difficulty. Services across Nunavut (Ugyuk)

So it’s something that we take seriously Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, and I look forward to announcing further Mr. Speaker. My question is for the exactly the nature of the program that Minister of Justice. the Nunavut Housing Corporation is developing once I have it. Thank you, (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, it has Mr. Speaker. come to my attention that the majority of sentences for crimes against a person Speaker: Thank you, Minister Curley. result in a period of probation instead of Your final supplementary, Ms. Ell. custody in jail. Recent statistics show that in 2009-2010, more than 1,500 adult Ms. Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. criminal court cases were completed in Speaker. Another recommendation made Nunavut. If the pattern holds true, then by the Standing Committee on Oversight more than 1,000 of those convicted will of Government Operations and Public be put on probation and not serve jail Accounts to the housing corporation was time. concerning its requirement to table its annual reports in a timely manner. The Can the minister update this House on minister tabled the housing corporation’s how often criminal sentences result in 2009-2010 annual report on September probation in Nunavut and how many 28, 2011. Can the minister explain what Nunavut residents are currently on the housing corporation has done to probation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. improve the timelines of its reporting? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ugyuk. Minister responsible for the Department Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ell. Minister of Justice, Minister Peterson. responsible for the Nunavut Housing Corporation, Minister Curley. Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank Ms. Ugyuk for the Hon. Tagak Curley: Thank you, Mr. question. She’s asking for some very Speaker. Yes, I believe we have made detailed data. If my memory is any good progress. We at least have one annual today, I believe currently there are over report that we have yet to conclude, but I 1,000 individuals on probation in our 25

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1392 communities. We do have 18 probation Some communities do have programs. officers working in 11 communities and For example, in Cambridge Bay, they we’re in the process of hiring or creating have the wellness centre that offers a four more for other communities. variety of courses, alcohol courses, anger management, and there are some With respect to how many individuals other communities as well. It’s very are sentenced to probation, I would have difficult. to get back to you on that information. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We encourage individuals at least to check in with their probation officers Speaker: Thank you, Minister Peterson. and, where possible, our probation Your first supplementary, Ms. Ugyuk. officers can recommend courses and programs to the individuals if they’re Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, aware of them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) In his return to Written Question 8 – 3(2) Speaker: Thank you, Minister Peterson. posed by my colleague from Quttiktuq, Your second supplementary, Ms. Ugyuk. the minister listed a number of rehabilitation, counselling, and Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, education programs that are offered to Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) The adult offenders in territorial custody. minister has provided statistics regarding These included programs such as the number of Nunavut men and women “Alternatives to Violence,” “Men’s who were incarcerated and had Group,” “Substance Abuse Program,” reoffended. Does the minister’s and “Psychological Services.” Can the department keep track of the number of minister update this House on what Nunavut men and women who were on programming is available to individuals probation and reoffended and, if so, who have been convicted of a crime and would he be willing to table those are sentenced to probation, and how figures in the House? Thank you, Mr. these programs are delivered? Thank Speaker. you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ugyuk. Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ugyuk. Minister responsible for the Department Minister responsible for the Department of Justice, Minister Peterson. of Justice, Minister Peterson. Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank Ms. Ugyuk for the Speaker. I thank the member for that question. Mr. Speaker, again it’s no question. Mr. Speaker, it’s no secret that secret that there are individuals in our in Nunavut, in the communities, when an communities who reoffend and who do individual is released and reintegrated go back to jail. There is a high back into the community and works with recidivism rate in Nunavut for a variety their probation officer, as my colleague, of reasons. the Minister of Health, has indicated, there are difficulties in providing I believe there have been written counselling programs to individuals. questions in the past asking for those

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1393 statistics. I even recall as an MLA the Baffin, one in the Kivalliq, and one myself I asked a written question like in the Kitikmeot, and met with that. I believe our staff does keep that community groups, I participated in the information. I can’t promise that we can one in Cambridge Bay, to develop table it in the House during this sitting, specific community action plans. but I’ll ask our officials to prepare that information for a future sitting. Thank The RCMP and the Department of you, Mr. Speaker. Justice continued to work with the communities to implement some of the Speaker: Thank you, Minister Peterson. recommendations that came out of the Your final supplementary, Ms. Ugyuk. community action plans. We hope to use that information from the results for Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, territory-wide crime prevention. I’m also Mr. Speaker. We think about our aware that the RCMP themselves have communities because want help for them hired a number of key positions in the to prevent that kind of thing and that is RCMP and a crime analyst position, why I asked the question. which is a person who can analyze specific crime trends in various (interpretation ends) On page 27 of the communities in Nunavut to assist the Tamapta Action Plan, it states that, RCMP and communities to identify “During this mandate, the Government possible crime trends in their of Nunavut will develop a communities, and then they can target comprehensive Crime Prevention the methods to address the crime that Strategy based on Inuit societal values may be occurring in the communities. I and involving Nunavummiut in efforts to am also aware that the justice reduce the need for intervention by the committees and hamlet councils are all justice system.” Can the minister update working very closely in the this House on the progress of this communities. strategy and when members might expect to see it tabled in the House? Hopefully, before the end of the term of Thank you, Mr. Speaker. this House, we may be in a position to provide some information to the House. Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ugyuk. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minister responsible for the Department of Justice, Minister Peterson. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Peterson. Oral Questions. Member for Quttiktuq, Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Mr. Elliott. Speaker. I thank Ms. Ugyuk for her diligence in reviewing Tamapta. Yes, Question 203 – 3(3): Adult Learning the Department of Justice has worked Policy Division (Elliott) with the RCMP. I believe I mentioned that there’s a pilot project underway in Mr. Elliott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. six communities in Nunavut. We My questions are for the Minister of retained a consultant with a vast amount Education, the Hon. Eva Aariak. of experience in crime prevention. She went to all six communities, four here in Yesterday, in the Minister’s Statement,

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1394 she talked about the support for adult department work with Nunavut Arctic learning. The minister spoke of the College? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. establishment of a new division with the director of career development services Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Elliott. and adult special projects that would Minister of Education, Madam Premier. help coordinate policy development and service delivery more effectively to Hon. Eva Aariak (interpretation): better serve the needs of adult learners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, it is Mr. Speaker, I was wondering if the extremely important to offer these minister could explain how this division programs for the general public here in is different from that of the mandate of Nunavut and having an open dialogue is Nunavut Arctic College. Thank you, Mr. very important. That is the case here. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Elliott. Speaker: Thank you, Madam Premier. Minister responsible for the Department Your second supplementary, Mr. Elliott. of Education, Madam Aariak. Mr. Elliott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Eva Aariak (interpretation): For the person who was hired to work in Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank the this division, where is the division member for raising that question. The housed? What specific community? division has identified the plans for the Thank you, Mr. Speaker. adult learning and career development program, which were introduced some Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Elliott. time ago. There are courses established Minister responsible for the Department for various programs and future careers. of Education, Madam Premier. In this strategy, the adult education curriculum, including the mature grad Hon. Eva Aariak (interpretation): project, identifies these items. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don’t want to hazard a guess. Once I have the However, the adult learning strategy is information, I will get back to the not appended to this program. member. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) The adult learning strategy has not yet been provided with Speaker: Thank you, Madam Premier. the necessary resources to implement the Your final supplementary, Mr. Elliott. recommendations. (interpretation) This was meant to provide assistance to the Mr. Elliott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. program. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What determining factor or factors qualify someone as an adult learner? Speaker: Thank you, Madam Premier. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Your first supplementary, Mr. Elliott. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Elliott. Mr. Elliott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minister responsible for the Department Thank you for that answer. Does this of Education, Madam Premier. new division that was created by your

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Hon. Eva Aariak (interpretation): Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Enook. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me say this Minister responsible for Economic first. My colleague, having been in the Development and Transportation, field of adult education, knows that he Minister Taptuna. has to be sensitive with respect to this area. Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the member from All of us here have learned a lot as Tununiq for that question. Once the adults in new areas. We learn on a daily process has been completed, yes, the basis, even as adults. Therefore, the recommendations from the appeals programs that are geared towards adult board will be made public. Thank you, learners are focused on people who are Mr. Speaker. no longer in high school and who are not employed. When they have reached the Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. age of majority, they are considered Your first supplementary, Mr. Enook. adults. This program does not disqualify any individual so long as they are not in Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, high school. It’s obvious that we are also Mr. Speaker. I thank the minister for his learning on a daily basis. Thank you, Mr. response. Maybe if I ask the question Speaker. this way. When the appeals board has contemplated an issue, do they include Speaker: Thank you, Madam Premier. their reasoning? Would that also include Oral Questions. Member for Tununiq, what changes were made? My question Mr. Enook. is: can the details be included or is the decision only made public? I hope I am Question 204 – 3(3): Process of NNI clear. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Appeals (Enook) Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Enook. Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, Minister responsible for Economic Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon to the Development and Transportation, residents of Pond Inlet and to all our Minister Taptuna. fellow Nunavummiut. Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my question the Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Department of Economic Development Speaker. Once a quasi-judicial board has and Transportation. completed their process, the information there and whatever recommendations Yesterday there were questions asked on they do make become public. Thank the Nunavummi Nangminiqaqtunik you, Mr. Speaker. Ikajuuti Policy. I just want some clarification from the minister. If there is Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. a problem or when an appeal is made (interpretation) Are you finished? and the appeals board makes a decision, (interpretation ends) Oral Questions. does that decision become public? Member for Amittuq, Mr. Tapardjuk. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 205 – 3(3): Language your question was in regard to services Requirements for Business under being provided by the businesses and Languages Act (Tapardjuk) that would be the Minister of Languages. So if you could please clarify. Thank Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Tapardjuk. you, Mr. Speaker. I also would like to direct a question to the Minister of Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank Economic Development and you, Mr. Speaker. In the report called Transportation, the Hon. Taptuna. “Uqausivut,” it states that the Department of Economic Development Section 3 of the Inuit Language and Transportation will work on the Protection Act speaks to private strategy to provide Inuktitut services in businesses and the fact that they have to partnership with the Department of provide services in the Inuit language. CLEY. Assuming that the minister Some of the services include would be looking after the business documentation or requests for proposals sector and other business services, I was and actual services, such as sales clerks. trying to ask him a question. My question was directed to the Minister of The Government of Nunavut has stated ED&T based on that action item that that they would assist the private sector these two departments would work in complying with the legislation. In the together. That is why I asked the strategy that had been announced titled question, Mr. Speaker. “Uqausivut,” which was tabled in June 2011, it states that the Department of Speaker: Thank you for the Economic Development and clarification, Mr. Tapardjuk. Minister of Transportation will collaborate with the Economic Development and Department of CLEY to determine how Transportation, Minister Taptuna. to assist businesses and when the requirement for the private sector to Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. provide Inuit language services will Speaker. I thank the member for that become mandatory. excellent question. The department, of course, is going to be abiding by the Mr. Speaker, what I would like to Language Acts with the assistance of the understand is when we can expect this Department of CLEY. Mr. Speaker, we service to be provided in Inuktitut, also talked to the private businesses out especially for the unilingual people who there through the Qikiqtaaluk Chamber are unable to speak English, under the of Commerce and other entities that are Inuit Language Protection Act. Thank out there within other regions. We also you, Mr. Speaker. have programs that assist small businesses in marketing and that can be Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. I included in changing their signs to would ask if you could clarify which include Inuktitut, Inuinnaqtun, and minister you are asking because you French. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. started off saying the Minister responsible for Economic Development and Transportation for this report, but

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Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. Your first supplementary, Mr. Your second supplementary, Mr. Tapardjuk. Tapardjuk.

Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the same document, you, Mr. Speaker. In the same page, it it speaks about the Department of also states that the Department of Economic Development and Economic Development and Transportation working with CLEY and Transportation will review small the Languages Commissioner. It states businesses and their operations, that “The Department of Economic including how they will be able to Development and Transportation, in comply with the Language Acts, collaboration with CLEY and the specifically for signage outside their Languages Commissioner, will provide businesses, and how they could best plain language information and comply with the legislation, especially in guidelines to private sector bodies on strengthening the Inuit language. how to do business in Nunavut in the Inuit language.” Has this work been Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask when completed? Do you now have guidelines this policy will be tabled so that we can to offer to the businesses to show them notify our constituents when they can be how they can offer Inuit language served in Inuktitut either in the retail services? That’s what I would like to stores and others. When can we expect find out, Mr. Speaker. to see that? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. Minister of Economic Development and Minister of Economic Development and Transportation, Minister Taptuna. Transportation, Minister Taptuna.

Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the member for that Speaker. Again I thank the member for question. Mr. Speaker, I know that the that question. Mr. Speaker, we department is working with consultants understood that these small businesses and working with other partners out would have difficulty in getting there, including the regional chambers of Inuinnaqtun signage, French signage, commerce and the private industry. and syllabics. So that’s why I mentioned that we do have programs to assist them Mr. Speaker, I don’t have that in that. information in front of me at this time, but I surely would get back to the We’re working with our partners out member and the House of how far this there, the regional chambers of policy-making is for small businesses commerce of all three regions, to and entrepreneurs to abide by the determine how we best do that. Once the Language Acts. Thank you, Mr. work is complete and the strategy is Speaker. completed, I’m sure they would table the strategy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Taptuna. Your final supplementary, Mr. Members will note that the allotted time Tapardjuk. for question period has expired. Minister Peterson. Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank the Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. minister for his response. One thing Speaker. I request unanimous consent to we’re very concerned about… . Let’s go back to No. 5 in the Orders of the use the Co-op as an example. Although Day. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. they maintain that they’re owned by Inuit, most of their signage and receipts Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Peterson. The are not written in Inuktitut. Unilingual member is seeking unanimous consent to people can’t see how much they saved go back to Item 5, Recognition of because it’s all written in English. They Visitors in the Gallery. Are there any don’t understand the receipts or the nays? There are none. Please proceed, signage. So that’s why people want to Mr. Peterson. hear about the implementation of this policy. Revert to Item 5: Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery It seems obvious that you will be working with the Minister of Languages Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. to develop the policy. Can we expect the Speaker. I thank my colleagues for completion of this policy in the granting me this opportunity to welcome immediate future? That’s my question to to the Gallery Danielle Lepage. She is the minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. one of our hard-working employees in the Department of Justice. She is sitting Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. over here in the Gallery. She is Minister of Economic Development and Nunavut’s official editor and territorial Transportation, Minister Taptuna. printer of one of the [reports]. She ensures that the Nunavut Gazette is done Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. on a regular basis. I’m sure Alex is Speaker. We’re working closely with our watching up on the third floor. Now he partners out there and the Department of knows who does that. She always Culture, Language, Elders and Youth. welcomes me to the Department of We intend to make available program Justice when I visit. So I would just like funding for small businesses that want to to take this opportunity to welcome her put their signage up to abide by the to the Gallery. Thanks for coming and Language Acts that exist in the watching us today. Thank you, Mr. department. Surely the Department of Speaker. Culture, Language, Elders and Youth would guide us along on how the policy >>Applause is set. Once that’s available, with the assistance of the Department of CLEY, Speaker: Thank you, Minister Peterson. we will surely table the policy. Thank Welcome to the Gallery. Item 7 in the you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the Day, Written Questions. Item 8. Returns to Written Questions.

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Item 9. Replies to Opening Address. And the second item that I am pleased to Item 10. Petitions. Item 11. Responses to table is the Interim Financial Report Petitions. Item 12. Reports of Standing (Unaudited) as of March 31, 2011. and Special Committees on Bills and Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Other Matters. Item 13. Tabling of Documents. Minister responsible for the Speaker: Thank you, Minister Peterson. Department of Community and Item 13. Tabling of Documents. Item 14. Government Services, Minister Notices of Motions. Item 15. Notices of Kusugak. Motions for First Reading of Bills. Item 16. Motions. Item 17. First Reading of Item 13: Tabling of Documents Bills. Item 18. Second Reading of Bills. Mr. Rumbolt. Tabled Document 116 – 3(3): Provincial/Territorial Meeting of Item 18: Second Reading of Bills Ministers Responsible for Local Government Report July 12 to 14, Bill 22 – An Act Respecting the 2011 (Kusugak) Constituencies of Nunavut – Second Reading Hon. Lorne Kusugak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to table the Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Provincial/Territorial Meeting of I move, seconded by the Hon. Member Ministers responsible for Local for Rankin Inlet South and Whale Cove, Government Report, which occurred that Bill 22, An Act Respecting the July 12 to 14, 2011 in Saint Andrews, Constituencies of Nunavut, be read for New Brunswick. Thank you, Mr. the second time. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this bill implements the Speaker: Thank you, Minister Kusugak. recommendations of the Nunavut Item 13. Tabling of Documents. Minister Electoral Boundaries Commission in its of Finance, Minister Peterson. 2011 report and subsequent addendum. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Tabled Document 117 – 3(3): 2011- 2012 Crown Agency Council’s Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Rumbolt. To Letters of Expectation (Peterson) the principle of the bill. I’ll just remind members that speaking to the principle Tabled Document 118 – 3(3): Interim of the bill and debate on the motion must Financial Report (Unaudited) as of be limited to the object, expediency, March 31, 2011 (Peterson) principles, and merits of the bill, not the details. The details of the bill are not Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. debatable. Thank you and for the record, Speaker. I have two items that I would I just want to say that the motion is in like to table. I am pleased to table the order, so we can proceed. Member for 2011-2012 Crown Agency Council’s Quttiktuq, Mr. Elliott. Letters of Expectation. Mr. Elliott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank you and my colleagues for

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1400 allowing me to speak to the principle of Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, this bill. Mr. Speaker. I will be supporting this bill as it is presented in its original state. If this bill is passed, we will see the I do not agree with delaying this bill Legislative Assembly grow from 19 until the next Legislative Assembly is elected members to 22. It will see this formed or the one after. I respect the come into force during the next election. work of the commission. They were To me, there was a lot of good work and mandated by going out and visiting all the report done by the commission set up the Nunavut communities. They did that on the electoral boundaries, I don’t feel and they have come back with this or see that I’m disputing that. What I recommendation to the House, and I will will be doing during Committee of the be supporting it as it is. Thank you, Mr. Whole is seeing if there’s a possibility of Speaker. deferring that until the Fifth Legislative Assembly. With that, Mr. Speaker, thank Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Shewchuk. To you. the principle of the bill. Ms. Ugyuk.

Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Elliott. To the Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, principle of the bill. Mr. Tapardjuk. Mr. Speaker. I will also be supporting the bill because the people of Gjoa Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank Haven would like their own MLA. you, Mr. Speaker. With respect to the When the government was first formed, direction we gave on the number of the people of Taloyoak and Kugaaruk constituencies in Nunavut, we were very wanted it that way and we should abide pleased to see the report completed and by the wishes of the people of Nattilik. handed over to the Legislative Thank you. Assembly. There are currently 19 members and we are looking at Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Ugyuk. To the increasing it to 22. I will be supporting principle of the bill. Mr. Kusugak. the bill as Nunavut’s population is growing. The people of Nunavut are Hon. Lorne Kusugak (interpretation): looking forward to seeing an increase in Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am also very the number of MLAs in the next election pleased to comment on this issue. and I will lend my full support to it. Mr. Speaker, I will be supporting the Should there be any suggestion to passage of this bill and the provision to postpone that change, I won’t be giving implement it at the next election. The my support to that. Mr. Speaker, I will people in my constituency of Whale support the increase and that it will be Cove and Rankin Inlet were consulted. implemented at the next election. Thank They expressed their views and they you, Mr. Speaker. were recorded. It was supported by the majority of the population of Nunavut. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. To We saw submissions. They spent hours, the principle of the bill. Mr. Shewchuk. days, and months working on listening to the concerns of the people. Everyone who wanted to speak was heard.

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There’s no doubt that they seriously were denied. Clarifications and changes deliberated on what would be the best have since been made. date for implementation. Those who made submissions supported the With this Assembly, we also tasked the recommendations, such as it would take Electoral Boundaries Commission to effect at the next election and these are review the boundaries in Nunavut. It the new constituencies they want looks like there has to be an increase in created. That is why a majority of our the number of representatives sitting in constituents supported the legislation as the House due to growth in population presented. If our constituents had spoken and because we only have one MP in the up last year and said to bring this bill Parliament of Canada. forward at the next election, I’m sure that would have been accepted too, Mr. It’s up to us. It’s at our discretion if there Speaker. has to be an increase in the number of seats here. It will give the opportunity They are not stupid and worked very for some of the communities to have a hard on this legislation, listening closely louder voice, with one additional seat for to Nunavummiut. Based on what they the Kivalliq and the Baffin increasing heard, they recommended so-and-so and representation by two seats. If the people that it not be put off indefinitely. They of Baffin don’t want those two, then you didn’t suggest that it be considered at the can move and add one of them to the next election. Instead, they decided to Kivalliq. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. proceed with those recommendations. I believe we should support their Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Curley. To the recommendations instead of trying to principle of the bill. No more names. change them. Ms. Aariak, sorry.

I will support the proposed legislation Hon. Eva Aariak (interpretation): without any changes based on what my Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I constituents have stated as well as others want to extend my gratitude to the who spoke on the issue. Thank you, Mr. people who worked hard, Justice Speaker. Richard, Kirt Ejesiak, and Gordon Main. They were part of the electoral Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Kusugak. To commission and endeavoured to listen the principle of the bill. Mr. Curley. and elicit discussions with various members of the public in Nunavut. They Hon. Tagak Curley (interpretation): heard divergent views and faced some Yes, Mr. Speaker, I also would like to difficult issues. Despite that, they were speak to the bill. When the boundaries able to arrive at recommendations as a commission was doing their work, they result of their research. held excellent public consultations. I also want Nunavutmiut to know that it Another thing that I find important is has been about four years since a that within the Assembly here, we need commission was set up prior to this to allow everyone to have a voice and to Assembly and their recommendations be heard. At times, if we can look at the situation here in Iqaluit, for example,

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1402 there are three of us sitting here and only additional two seats set aside for the one of us can sit at the other side of the Baffin. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Chamber. There is no doubt that there are certain elements in the communities Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Oshutapik. To that don’t have access to being heard the principle of the bill. Mr. because their numbers are too small. Ningeongan.

Here in Canada, we are truly unique. Mr. Ningeongan (interpretation): Thank Admittedly, the people of Nunavut are you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to speak to this better represented on a per capita basis, motion. I notice that increasing numbers but we live in very remote communities of members may be in support of it. in a vast territory. As Premier, keeping However, I don’t want to vote based on information up to date and disseminating my own personal opinion but rather on information to Nunavut communities is the wishes of the people of Chesterfield very important to me. The population in Inlet and Coral Harbour. I have asked Nunavut is growing and will continue to their hamlet councils to consult on the do so in the future, so we need a proper opinions of their residents, so I will number of representatives in the House. briefly go over their concerns. I, too, will be supporting this without changes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the government keeps saying how it is in a deficit position. It’s Speaker: Thank you, Ms. Aariak. To the believed that they’re unable to find principle of the bill. Mr. Oshutapik. additional sources of revenue. Even if we add three more MLAs, it is said that Mr. Oshutapik (interpretation): Thank it will not lead to more benefits for the you, Mr. Speaker. I will also be communities. I would have been in a supporting this electoral boundary bill. difficult position if the positions had Furthermore, our fellow residents of been opposite between my communities. Nunavut understand our reasoning for increasing the number. If the residents Due to the feedback on the plans of the had not wanted that, then we would not government to add these additional even be speaking about this legislation. positions, it would increase the annual It would not have been brought up in this expenditures by $1 million to the House if our constituents had not wanted Legislative Assembly. They would also this. have to remodel the Assembly to accommodate them. If there had been Our constituents watch us very closely new information brought forward they while we are serving them. When we’re may have reached different conclusions. trying to serve the interests of our constituents, we do work hard on their However, I have been requested not to behalf. Whenever we request from the support this particular electoral government and run into obstacles, we boundaries recommendation because my have to keep going back to our constituents feel that it will not create constituents. So I will be in support of any additional benefit. I was urged to the motion and we will keep the vote against the bill by the leaders of my

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1403 constituents and I will abide by their Item 19: Consideration in Committee wish. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Ningeongan. To the principle of the bill. Mr. Taptuna. Chairman (Mr. Enook)(interpretation): I would like to call the committee Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. meeting to order. In Committee of the Speaker. I’ll be supporting the bill as is Whole, we have the following items to too. Mr. Speaker, there’s a transition deal with: Bills 13, 14, 15, and 22. What happening in Nunavut. We understand is the wish of the committee? Mr. that our population is young, it’s Aupaluktuq. growing, and our dynamics of economy is changing. There is a lot of activity Mr. Aupaluktuq: Thank you, Mr. happening. Chairman. We would like to complete the review of Bill 15 and the capital I’ve got to respect the work of the estimates for Nunavut Arctic College, commission, where they did a lot of followed by the Department of Culture, work trying to come up with a Language, Elders and Youth and the reasonable recommendation. I believe Legislative Assembly. We will then that Nunavummiut can’t wait another 10 proceed to review Bills 13, 14, and 22. years or 17 years for another change in (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. such an activity like this. Therefore, Mr. Chairman. Speaker, I’m going to be supporting this bill as is. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Aupaluktuq. Are we in agreement Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Taptuna. To that we first deal with the capital the principle of the bill. Question has estimates for Nunavut Arctic College? been called. All those in favour. Opposed. The motion is carried. Bill 22 Some Members: Agreed. has been read for the second time and as Bill 22 is a House bill, it is immediately Bill 15 – Appropriation (Capital) Act, referred to the Committee of the Whole. 2012-2013 – Nunavut Arctic College – Consideration in Item 18. Second Reading of Bills. Item Committee 19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters. Bills Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. I 13, 14, 15, and 22 with Mr. Enook in the would like to ask the Minister Chair. responsible for Nunavut Arctic College, Minister Shewchuk, if he has any Before we proceed further, we will take opening comments. Minister Shewchuk. a 20-minute break. Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Sergeant-at-Arms. Mr. Chairman. I do have opening comments. Thank you. >>House recessed at 15:27 and Committee resumed at 15:53

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Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to be here Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to be here today to present and discuss the today to discuss Nunavut Arctic proposed 2012-13 capital plan for College’s capital plan for 2012-13 and Nunavut Arctic College. As the Minister the subsequent four years. This is a responsible for Nunavut Arctic College, critical government investment in I am looking forward to the opportunity training Nunavutmiut for employment. I to advance the mandate of the look forward to your questions, Government of Nunavut, especially as it comments, and discussion. Thank you, applies to Nunavut Arctic College. Mr. Chairman.

In the past two years, Arctic College has Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, taken on the responsibility of their Minister Shewchuk. Do you have capital planning- linking facility and witnesses that you would like to the delivery strategy. They continue to table? Minister Shewchuk. develop their internal capital planning capacity. Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Yes, I would. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. As a post-secondary institution in the territory, Arctic College plays a central Chairman (interpretation): Does the role in providing Nunavutmiut with committee agree to bring in the adult learning programs and services. witnesses? Our core business is training for employment. Building self-reliance Some Members: Agreed. through training and employment is our goal. Chairman (interpretation): Sergeant-at- Arms, escort the witnesses in, please. This year’s submission requests minor capital in the amount of $100,000. This Thank you. (interpretation ends) allows Arctic College the flexibility to Minister Shewchuk, please introduce address minor needs not met in normal your witness. maintenance but essential to the smooth running of facilities and programs. The Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, minor capital projects have included the Mr. Chairman. I have with me today renovations of community learning Eric Corneau. He is the coordinator of centres in order to ensure the successful policy and planning for Nunavut Arctic delivery of camp cook programs; College. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. improve accessibility for individuals with limited mobility in facilities and Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, reconfigure spaces in order to ensure Minister Shewchuk. (interpretation ends) adequate space is available for staff and Welcome. Does the chair of the standing students. This capital is critical to committee have comments? Ms. Ugyuk. ensuring that Arctic College is able to provide quality learning spaces for Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, Nunavutmiut. Mr. Chairman. Yes, my fellow committee members have requested that

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I speak on their behalf. I will make these Centre project for Cambridge Bay’s comments in English. Nunavut Arctic College Campus is not included in the college’s 2013-17 Five- (interpretation ends) I am pleased to Year Capital Plan even though it had provide opening comments on behalf of been in previous capital plans. Standing the Standing Committee on Social committee members encourage the Wellness as the Committee of the Whole minister to bring this project forward and begins its consideration of Nunavut explore the potential for partnerships Arctic College’s proposed 2012-13 with mining companies and other capital estimates. partners as the mining industry has significant potential to provide jobs and Nunavut Arctic College’s proposed income to Nunavummiut with the capital budget for 2012-13 is $100,000, appropriate training. which will be allocated towards minor capital projects, including upgrades and Mr. Chairman, standing committee renovations to current facilities. This is members note further that the potential similar to the college’s 2011-12 capital for employment in the mining industry is estimate budget. not limited to on-site work, such as heavy equipment operators or service Mr. Chairman, Nunavut Arctic College personnel. More Nunavummiut taking is Nunavut’s central agency for advantage of educational opportunities providing adult educational in the management, administration, and opportunities from basic upgrading to accounting fields, for example, could training programs to opportunities for lead to even greater involvement in the career development. Proposed changes mining industry. to the legislation could also allow the college to grant university level degrees. Mr. Chairman, that concludes my opening comments on the proposed Mr. Chairman, Nunavut’s community 2012-13 Capital Estimates of Nunavut learning centres play an important role in Arctic College. I am confident that my promoting skill development to improve colleagues will wish to offer further the educational advancement and comments of their own. Thank you. employability of Nunavut residents. Investment in our community-based Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, learning resources is critical. Ms. Ugyuk. Before we proceed, I wish to remind members of the following: The standing committee notes that future according to Rule 77(1), you have 10 projects in the communities of Grise minutes to speak, and according to Rule Fiord, Iqaluit, Kugaaruk, and Whale 77(2), subject to the discretion of the Cove are included in the 2013-17 Five- Chair, a member may speak more than Year Capital Plan although there is no once to a matter under discussion but not funding allocated for these projects in until every member wishing to speak has 2012-13. spoken.

Mr. Chairman, committee members At this time, I suggest to members that have noted that the Mine Training wherever possible you ask your detailed

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1406 questions during the page-by-page Ms. Ell: So is this for existing schools or review of the departmental estimates. was a new school built with those funds? Are there any general comments to the Thank you, Mr. Chairman. opening comments? Chairman: Thank you, Ms. Ell. Thank you. We are now on page B-3 in Minister Shewchuk. English. I haven’t asked any questions. (interpretation ends) Finance. Branch Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Summary. Centrally Administered Mr. Chairman. No, this is not for Funds. B-3. existing funds. This is for the planning phase of new facilities. Thank you, Mr. (interpretation) I think we may have Chairman. different documents. B-4 deals with the Arctic College in the binders. My Chairman: Thank you, Minister apologies. Please bear with us. Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk.

My apologies, members. It is K-3 in Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): I would like English. Do you agree? (interpretation to ask another question. In some ends) Nunavut Arctic College. communities, they have adult learning Information Item. Headquarters. centres which are adjoined to the schools (interpretation) Are there any questions? and some schools will lack space in the Ms. Ell. future because of population growth among school-aged children. If the Ms. Ell (interpretation): I would like to school in Taloyoak needs to be enlarged, ask a question. For 2011-12, which is will we be moving the adult learners out over $1 million on page K-2, for an adult of that facility? Thank you. learning centre, is this new? I would like to hear how this was planned. Thank Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, you. Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Shewchuk.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Ms. Ell. Minister Shewchuk. Mr. Chairman. We realize that this is a challenge, but the good news here is that Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, we do have community learning centres Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for in all 25 Nunavut communities. As we that question. I think she is referring to prioritize space and new facilities, they the revised estimates of $1,851,000. That will be their own entities. At current figure is a carryover from the previous pace right now and what we have in year. It’s spent in this fiscal year on place is we are utilizing other spaces in Cambridge Bay residents, Whale Cove, schools and other buildings, but the good Iqaluit, CLCs, and the Nunavut Research news is that we provide that service in Institute Knowledge Infrastructure Fund all communities. Thank you, Mr. too. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ell. Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk.

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Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, on the facility, but eventually it was not Mr. Chairman. Looking at the used anymore. So if we could get an community of Taloyoak, the number of update as to what’s happening with that students is growing and the adult facility. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. learning centre is within the school itself. When we run out of space in the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, future, do you foresee any new CLC in Mr. Elliott. Minister Shewchuk. Taloyoak? Thank you. Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Shewchuk. the very good question. As he knows, that’s a very old and aging facility. It Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, does require annual maintenance to Mr. Chairman. I thank the member again upkeep it. I suppose, in a way, we’re for that concern. I would say that in the fortunate to have it, though, because we planning and priority process of new are offering programs there and do have community learning centres, all those a residence for people to stay. concerns would be taken into detail and taken in and reviewed. I would suggest There are no short-term plans not to to the member that these concerns be operate it; we will keep on operating it voiced to Nunavut Arctic College. because we need it. In the future, I know Thank you, Mr. Chairman. it has been looked at as part of the Iqaluit airport project, whether or not Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, that infrastructure is going to stay in Minister Shewchuk. Mr. Elliott. place. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Elliott: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, My question is on K-3 in terms of the Minister Shewchuk. Mr. Elliott. minor capital projects being done. In the past when the funds for allocation were Mr. Elliott: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. put under the Department of Education, Thank you for that response. I think it’s we had different discussions about what in between a capital carryover. There was happening around the old residence. was $50,000 allocated to Grise Fiord to That is the building by the airport, the do a study on the facility for the green facility out there. I believe the community learning centre in the level 1 carpentry course is being held out community. I was wondering if the there, just so you know which facility minister could provide an update in I’m talking about. regard to that, whether that project will be moving forward. Thank you, Mr. I was wondering if the minister could Chairman. give an update as to what’s happening with that building. At one point, I know Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, there were studies. In terms of years of Mr. Elliott. Minister Shewchuk. discussions that we had before with the Minister of Education and the DM as Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, well, some work was going to be done Mr. Chairman. I thank the member. I

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1408 think the member is aware of the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. situation; he just wants me to voice it, I Go to page B-2. (interpretation ends) think. It’s in the same situation that he Department Summary. Finance. Detail asked the last time. We are presently of Expenditures. Total Capital waiting for the hamlet to vacate the old Expenditures. $100,000. (interpretation) hamlet office so we could do some work Do you agree? and planning of that building to occupy it. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Some Members: Agreed.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Shewchuk. Mr. Elliott. Are we in agreement that the review of Nunavut Arctic College is completed? Mr. Elliott: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My understanding was that the $50,000 Some Members: Agreed. was to assess whether more funds would be needed to be allocated to the project Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. to do any repairs and turn that hamlet Thank you, Mr. Minister and your [office] into a facility where classrooms officials. If you have any closing could be held. That’s what I was trying remarks, Minister Shewchuk. to get at in terms of: will more funding be required or is the building fine as is? Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you Thank you, Mr. Chairman. very much, Mr. Chairman. I would like to thank you and the members for Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Elliott. reviewing Arctic College. I know it’s not Minister Shewchuk. a great deal of money that you reviewed, but it is important money. Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’m sorry if I confused I would just like to again thank Eric for the member. He is right. That money is being here with me too, and commit to to assess the building and it may require you that I will keep on trying my hardest more money and further work to be and utmost to deliver adult education in done. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Nunavut. With the exciting times we have ahead, I know that it’s going to be Chairman: Thank you, Minister very exciting for Arctic College to try Shewchuk. (interpretation) As you may and meet the demands that are out there. be aware, the item that we’re dealing Thank you all. Thank you. Have a good with is under the Department of Finance day. on page B-3, I think. Do you see that page? (interpretation ends) Finance. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Branch Summary. Centrally Minister Shewchuk. Sergeant-at-Arms, Administered Funds. (interpretation) escort the witness out, please. Total Capital Expenditures. $100,000. Do you agree? At this time, we will continue on with our review. I would like to ask the Some Members: Agreed. Minister of Culture, Language, Elders

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1409 and Youth if he has any opening Minister Arreak, introduce your comments. Minister Arreak. officials, please.

Bill 15 – Appropriation (Capital) Act, Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): 2012-2013 – Culture, Language, Thank you. Mr. Chairman. To my right Elders and Youth – Consideration is Deputy Minister Simon Awa and to in Committee my left is Director of Corporate Services Niki Nweze. Thank you. Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Iliqqusilirijikkut is what we call the Minister Arreak. Welcome. Does the Department of Culture, Language, chair of the standing committee have any Elders and Youth. opening comments? Ms. Ugyuk.

The capital estimates for the Department Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, of Culture, Language, Elders and Youth Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) The for the 2012-13 fiscal year is $60,000. Standing Committee on Social Wellness This minor capital budget will be used to has reviewed the proposed capital purchase new office equipment and estimates of the Department of Culture, furniture or the completion of minor Language, Elders and Youth for the renovations to existing office space as 2012-13 fiscal year and I am pleased to needs are identified. provide you with the committee’s comments. Mr. Chairman, should members of the committee have any questions related to Committee members note that the the minor capital budget, I would be department’s proposed capital budget for pleased to answer them. Thank you, Mr. 2012-13 is $60,000 for minor projects, Chairman. such as office renovations and the purchase of small equipment. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Arreak. Do you have any The standing committee has witnesses that you would like to bring to continuously supported the need for a the table? Nunavut heritage centre which would allow for the repatriation of cultural and Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): historical artefacts which are currently Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, I do. been stored under contract outside of the territory. Committee members note that Chairman (interpretation): Does the in the two prior fiscal years, funding of committee agree to bring in the $7 million had twice been approved for witnesses? the Nunavut Heritage Centre project only to be repeatedly transferred or Some Members: Agreed. removed from the department’s budget. This project no longer appears in the Chairman (interpretation): Sergeant-at- department’s five-year capital plan. Arms, escort the witnesses in, please.

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Substantiation sheets previously appearance to the Committee of the provided to the committee by the Whole and to discuss the $60,000 for department indicated that the Nunavut your department. With that very small Heritage Centre will “play a key role in amount, I was thinking that maybe the supporting Nunavut’s arts and culture government is trying to get rid of your sector.” Members continue to support department. the idea of combining the Nunavut Heritage Centre with a performing arts One thing I’m concerned about and one centre and encourage the minister to thing that I do understand is that this consider options that will allow for government is limited by the amount of economies of scale and permit the money it can spend. There was $7 project to continue. million identified for the Nunavut Heritage Centre and I was also looking Mr. Chairman, the Piqqusilirivvik at some monies being set aside for the Cultural School represented a significant heritage centre under a P3 arrangement. capital investment by the department Through that, you can access some funds along with federal funding. The facility from the federal government. The best opened earlier this year and will soon way would be to take the P3 route. We begin to take in students. Members look were looking forward to accessing some forward to being kept informed of the federal funds. The $7 million was taken project’s progress. away from the Department of CLEY because, of course, we just couldn’t set it Mr. Chairman, that concludes my aside and not use it for other purposes. opening comments on the proposed 2012-13 Capital Estimates of the Mr. Chairman, the reason why I wanted Department of CLEY. I am confident to make a statement was because we that individual members will have have to go ahead with the plans that we questions and comments as we proceed. had made previously. This heritage Thank you. centre was going to be built in Iqaluit and also to be utilized by the arts sector. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, We would be promoting the Inuit culture Ms. Ugyuk. Before we start, we all and language, which are slowly eroding remember Rule 77(1) and Rule 77(2). I away, and we also have to send out our suggest to members that wherever artefacts to other museums due to lack of possible you ask your detailed questions space. There is also the issue of during the page-by-page review of the repatriating Inuit artefacts back to departmental estimates. At this time, I Nunavut. That is what I wanted to talk would like to ask for general comments. about. Mr. Tapardjuk. I am disappointed that those millions of Mr. Tapardjuk (interpretation): Thank dollars were used for other purposes. I you. Minister of Culture, Language, would like to re-emphasize that it’s very Elders and Youth, I really don’t want to important to build that facility. I know call you my Annuraaqatik anymore. I’m that it doesn’t have anything to do with kidding. I would like to welcome you what’s under discussion, but our and your officials for making an Chairman had brought it up and I wanted

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1411 to add further support to his comments, happen after that agreement expires. Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Tapardjuk. Minister Arreak, would Minister Arreak. Ms. Ell. you like to respond to that? Ms. Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): Chairman. As you just stated, the Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like agreement with the museum in to thank my colleague. I don’t think I Yellowknife expires on March 31, 2012. want to call him my Annuraaqatik Do you have any plans or options anymore either. available? Thank you.

>>Laughter Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Ms. Ell. Minister Arreak. To respond to the $7 million that he mentioned, we agreed in 2010 during Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): Full Caucus that these monies be used Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We haven’t for other purposes. At that time in 2011, found a place for them at this time. As I the Financial Management Board said earlier, we don’t have any place for reviewed the matter and agreed to take it artefacts in Nunavut because we can’t out of that line item and put it to other just store them outdoors. They require purposes. climate-controlled storage. Because of that, the only option open to us is to have The heritage centre is something that we them shipped south should they no had hoped to see. We were looking at longer have space in Yellowknife. Thank building it as a P3 project. We do have you, Mr. Chairman. problems in that area. The building of the new Legislative Assembly that was Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, proposed years earlier is in the same Minister Arreak. Ms. Ell. situation. The architectural drawings were going to go up to $10 million and Ms. Ell (interpretation): I wonder if the we were looking at $112 million in total. minister has heard or believe that space may no longer be available for the With respect to the artefacts that are artefacts in Yellowknife. Thank you. housed at the museum in Yellowknife, they are there because we don’t have a Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, facility to store them and the agreement Ms. Ell. Minister Arreak. with Yellowknife is ending on March 31, 2012. I’m not exactly sure what is Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): going to be happening when that Yes, I have written correspondence agreement expires, but we have written urging them to continue to be stored to their deputy minister. They just got a there. At this point, the situation is new minister and we haven’t had a uncertain and I don’t wish to make any response to date as to what is going to speculation, so I can’t answer the question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, operation was late according to his Minister Arreak. Ms. Ell. comments. Is it now fully operational? Thank you. Ms. Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If we can turn to page D-4, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, minor equipment, $60,000, what is that Ms. Ell. Minister Arreak. allocated for? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, it is now Ms. Ell. Minister Arreak. fully operational. It did open late, but it’s operating properly now. Thank you. Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As I Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, mentioned in my opening comments, it Minister Arreak. I have no more names would be used to purchase new office on my list. We are on page D-3. equipment and furniture or the (interpretation ends) Culture, Language, completion of minor renovations to Elders and Youth. Branch Summary. existing office space as needs are Directorate. Total Capital Expenditures. identified. The minor capital budget $60,000. (interpretation) Do you agree? would be used for such purposes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Some Members: Agreed.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Arreak. Ms. Ell. Go back to page D-2. (interpretation ends) Department Summary. Culture, Ms. Ell (interpretation): Does that Language, Elders and Youth. Total include equipment and furniture for the Capital Expenditures. $60,000. new Piqqusilirivvik Cultural School? (interpretation) Do you agree? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Some Members: Agreed. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Ms. Ell. Minister Arreak. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Do we agree that the Department of Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): Culture, Language, Elders and Youth Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No, it’s not has been concluded? for the Piqqusilirivvik Cultural School. The O&M for Piqqusilirivvik is funded Some Members: Agreed. through another line item. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Arreak. If you have any closing Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, comments, Minister Arreak. Minister Arreak. Ms. Ell. Hon. James Arreak (interpretation): Ms. Ell (interpretation): My last Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know that question is in regard to the the amount is small but we will put it to Piqqusilirivvik Cultural School and its

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1413 good use. Thank you very much for than 1 percent of the Government of approving it. Nunavut’s total planned capital spending for the coming fiscal year. Our capital The Department of Culture, Language, budget continues to be modest and Elders and Youth is not being phased responsible. out, as was mentioned, and isn’t even under consideration. As you have seen Our priority areas for the coming fiscal under D-1, we still have the same year include ongoing investments in amounts for operations and maintenance. equipment and furniture for the There has been no mention or any Assembly and members’ offices in thought about phasing out our addition to enhancements and upgrades department. to the Legislative Assembly’s audiovisual, Hansard and information Thank you very much for your support technology systems. and I would like to thank the officials who are here with me. Thank you very As members will recall, the House much. approved a capital carryover in June of this year for the Legislative Assembly. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, As a result of our collective caucus Minister Arreak and your officials. decision not to proceed at this time with Thank you. Sergeant-at-Arms, escort the planning for a new Legislative Assembly witnesses out, please. building, these funds have been re- profiled for improvements to our We can now proceed. We will deal with existing facility. the (interpretation ends) Office of the Legislative Assembly. I would like to This has provided us with the initial ask the Speaker of the Legislative resources that may be required for Assembly to make his opening remarks. planning for renovations to the Chamber My apologies, Mr. Speaker. Now I and other areas of the Assembly building would like to ask the Speaker of the and infrastructure that could be Legislative Assembly to make his necessitated by the Legislative opening remarks. Assembly’s decisions regarding the 2011 report of the Nunavut Electoral Bill 15 – Appropriation (Capital) Act, Boundaries Commission. 2012-2013 – Legislative Assembly – Consideration in Committee Mr. Chairman, that concludes my opening remarks. I would be pleased to Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It answer any questions that members may is a pleasure for me to appear before you have. Thank you. and members today to present the proposed 2012-13 Capital Estimates of Chairman: Qujannamiik, Mr. Speaker. the Office of the Legislative Assembly. Do you have witnesses that you would like to bring to the table? As members will note, the 2012-13 Capital Estimates of the Office of the Speaker: They would be very happy if I Legislative Assembly amount to less said no, but yes, I do, Mr. Chairman.

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Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Chairman: Qujannamiik, Mr. Speaker. Sergeant-at-Arms, please bring in the Ms. Ell. witnesses. Ms. Ell (interpretation): Thank you for Mr. Speaker, for the record, please the clarification. We haven’t decided on introduce your witnesses. the 2011 report and we will be approving it here. I couldn’t quite Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For comprehend that. I’ll speak in English. the record, to my right is Mr. John Quirke, the Clerk of the Legislative (interpretation ends) In the budget, A-3, Assembly, and to my left is Mr. Mike which we will be getting to, there is an Rafter, the Director of Corporate anticipation of a decision regarding the Services for the Legislative Assembly. 2011 report of the Nunavut Electoral Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Boundaries Commission. Right now, we’re being asked to vote on the budget Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. as if we’re going to vote in favour of the For the record, I need to remind all Electoral Boundaries Commission. Is the members, including ministers, you are budget already in there anticipating a allowed and able to ask questions while “yes” vote? (interpretation) Thank you. the Speaker is at the witness table. Are there any general comments to the Chairman: Thank you, Ms. Ell. Mr. Speaker’s opening remarks? Ms. Ell. Speaker.

Ms. Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman. Being a new member, please Thank you for clarifying that, Ms Ell. don’t hesitate to correct me. The funding that I talked about in my opening comments was funding that the In his opening comments, he talked Legislative Assembly had put aside over about planning for the future. If we vote the years to go towards a new facility. on the 2011 Report of the Nunavut However, in the last year, the Full Electoral Boundaries Commission, what Caucus has made a decision not to happens afterward if it’s not approved? proceed with a new facility. It’s not clear what would happen before we vote on that. It did sound a little clear What we anticipate doing then is instead during the second reading and it looked of asking for more money, if we need it like it was going to be approved, but if it for renovations, as I said, depending on was not approved and under the terms of the outcome of the Assembly’s decision the agreement, would this be removed? I on the Electoral Boundaries hope that was understandable, Mr. Commission, that funding we had put Chairman. Thank you. aside, and I think it was about $2.6 million that has been put in a reserve Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, over the years, would give us a head Ms. Ell. Mr. Speaker. start to be able to utilize that funding if we needed to do any renovations to the Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No, building. Hopefully that clarifies it. it wouldn’t. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Chairman: Qujannamiik, Mr. Speaker. watching of the broadcast through the (interpretation) Any more? We are on cable system. page A-3 and the details are on page A- 4. Mr. Kusugak. However, through Telesat Canada, we have not been successful on a must-carry Hon. Lorne Kusugak (interpretation): basis with CRTC. In fact, I met with the Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I can ask vice-chair of CRTC in Yellowknife questions on A-3 and A-4, these deal recently again to press our case for the with enhancements and upgrades to the must-carry basis that we were seeking information technology system for our for. Quite frankly, with the recent outage proceedings. that we all experienced in Nunavut, we think we made our case stronger on how A few years back, we discussed if it important satellite service is to us and to would be possible to watch the get messages across to the people of proceedings via satellite. Most people Nunavut. only have Bell ExpressVu, so they are unable to watch our proceedings. The Must-carry basis is needed by us and we proceedings of the Legislative Assembly hope that will help our situation, but it are broadcast only on cable through local has been an ongoing discussion with co-ops. Are we going to be using these CRTC in terms of presentations that we monies so that each household in made a year ago with the Hon. James Nunavut with Bell ExpressVu can also Arreak. Essentially we’re still pursuing it watch and, if not, when would that be and we’re still working on it. It’s just a possible? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. matter of, hopefully, over time, we will be successful, but it is an ongoing battle. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Thank you. Mr. Kusugak. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker. Chairman: Qujannamiik, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Kusugak. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is my understanding that no, these Hon. Lorne Kusugak: Thank you, Mr. upgrades wouldn’t allow us to go to Bell Chairman. Thank you for that, Mr. ExpressVu or satellite TV. With your Quirke. I just want say that I encourage indulgence, Mr. Chairman, I would ask you to keep up that good fight and I look Mr. Clerk, Mr. Quirke, if he wants to forward to a positive outcome on this in add some more to that. Thank you, Mr. the coming months. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman.

Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Kusugak. Mr. Quirke. (interpretation) Are there any questions? Mr. Ningeongan. Clerk (Mr. Quirke): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Some of the money will be Mr. Ningeongan (interpretation): Thank used to purchase equipment for you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to get constituency offices to allow for some clarification. This is a supplement to part of Ms. Ell’s earlier question. If

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1416 those who vote no happen to outnumber been made yet. Thank you, Mr. those who vote yes, I think that is Chairman. possible and that is why I’m speaking on the 2011 Report of the Nunavut Chairman: Qujannamiik, Mr. Speaker. Electoral Boundaries Commission. Mr. Ningeongan.

Are we trying to approve the Legislative Mr. Ningeongan (interpretation): Thank Assembly’s capital budget before you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for that making that vote? I believe Ms. Ell was clarification. I just wanted to get some trying to ask that question. Are we clarification on it. The reserve that is jumping ahead? I have a feeling that the built up would be drawn on in the case I majority of members will not be am defeated. That is what I understand. supporting the report. Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Ningeongan. (interpretation ends) Mr. Ningeongan. (interpretation ends) Questions? We are on A-3. Office of the Mr. Speaker. Legislative Assembly. Branch Summary. Assembly Operations. Total Capital Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I Expenditures. $810,000. (interpretation) just want to make it really clear there is Do you agree? no money in this capital budget that we’re looking at right now that has to do Some Members: Agreed. with renovations for the building as a result of the decision to be made on the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Electoral Boundaries Commission. (interpretation ends) A-5. Office of the Legislative Assembly. Branch Summary. As I indicated earlier, there was a Independent Officers of the Legislative reserve that was being built up over the Assembly. (interpretation) Are there any years. This Assembly approved that questions? Ms. Ell. capital carryover to keep it within the Legislative Assembly’s domain. Ms. Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Depending on the outcome of the Chairman. I just need further decision on the Electoral Boundaries clarification on that page. It says Iqaluit Commission, we would utilize some of in there. Can the Speaker explain that that funding for dealing with whatever further? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. we need to as a result of that decision, but that’s money that has already been Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, approved as a carryover and some of it is Ms. Ell. (interpretation ends) Mr. going to other renovations in the Speaker. building as well. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I I just want to make it clear that there’s stand to be corrected if I’m incorrect, but no money in this capital budget for the it’s my understanding that it’s based here renovations, for a decision that hasn’t in Iqaluit as far as operated out of the Office of the Legislative Assembly at the

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Clerk’s Office. It doesn’t state here that of the Legislative Assembly for ensuring it’s for computers, printers, faxes, and that the facility is meeting our needs and things like that that would go to being able to broadcast and get our Elections Nunavut for them to send out proceedings out to the people of where they needed to send them in Nunavut. I just wanted to commend preparation for the next election. Thank them and I thank all the staff of the you, Mr. Chairman. Legislative Assembly for ensuring that we have an adequate facility to sit in. Chairman: Qujannamiik, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Questions? Office of the Legislative Assembly. Branch Summary. Bill 15 – Appropriation (Capital) Act, Independent Officers of the Legislative 2012-2013 – Consideration in Assembly. Total Capital Expenditures. Committee $65,000. (interpretation) Do you agree? Chairman: Qujannamiik, Mr. Speaker. Some Members: Agreed. (interpretation) Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses out. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Go back to page A-2. (interpretation Go to Appendix V in your binders. ends) Departmental Summary. Office of (interpretation ends) Summary of Capital the Legislative Assembly. Total Capital Expenditures by Department. Expenditures. $875,000. (interpretation) (interpretation) Are you under Appendix Do you agree? V yet? (interpretation ends) Total Capital, as amended by the deletion of Some Members: Agreed. $500,000. Total Amended Capital is $94,499,000. Are you agreed? Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Does the committee agree that we have Some Members: Agreed. concluded with the Office of the Legislative Assembly? Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Members, go to Bill 15 in your white Some Members: Agreed. binders. Did you find it?

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) Before we proceed (interpretation ends) Thank you, Mr. with the clause-by-clause consideration Speaker. Do you have closing remarks? of Bill 15, I wish to advise members that Mr. Speaker. copies of motions to amend the bill are in your blue motion folders. These Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I motions will be made by the Minister of would like to thank the members for Finance at the appropriate time. The approving the capital budget of the motions are required to give effect to the Legislative Assembly. As I said, it’s a deletions that have been made to the very modest budget. 2012-13 capital estimates. There are two motions in total. The motions will be Having said that, Mr. Chairman, I also moved and considered when we reach want to commend the staff of the Office clause 3 of the bill.

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We will now proceed with the clause-by- Committee Motion 004 – 3(3): Motion clause consideration of Bill 15. Clause 1. to Amend Subsection 3(2) of Bill (interpretation) Do you agree? 15 (Peterson)

Some Members: Agreed. Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that subsection 3(2) Chairman: Clause 2. (interpretation) Do be amended by striking out you agree? “$94,999,000” and replacing it with “$94,499,000.” Thank you, Mr. Some Members: Agreed. Chairman.

Chairman: Clause 3. I recognize the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister of Finance, Minister Peterson. Minister Peterson. (interpretation ends) The motion is in order. All those in Committee Motions favour. Opposed. The motion is carried.

Committee Motion 003 – 3(3): Motion Clause 3, as amended. Do you agree? to Amend Schedule of Bill 15 (Peterson) Some Members: Agreed. Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Schedule to Chairman: Clause 4. Do you agree? the bill be amended by: (a) striking out “$31,270,000” in Some Members: Agreed. item 8, Community and Government Services and Chairman: Clause 5. Do you agree? replacing it with “$30,770,000”; (b) striking out “$94,999,000” after Some Members: Agreed. “Total Capital” and replacing it with “$94,499,000”; and Chairman: Do members agree to Bill 15 (c) striking out “$94,999,000” after as amended? “Total Capital Appropriation” and replacing it with Some Members: Agreed. “$94,499,000.” Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) Pursuant to Rule 62(2), does the committee agree that Bill Chairman (interpretation): The motion 15, as amended, can be immediately is in order. All those in favour. Opposed. placed on the orders of the day for third The motion is carried. reading?

I again recognize Minister Peterson, Some Members: Agreed. (interpretation ends) Minister of Finance. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) We will now proceed to our next item of business, Bill 13. Before we continue, in my capacity

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1419 as the Chair, I am privileged to take a Services as a result of the 15-minute break. We shall be back at termination of the social services about 25 after. Thank you very much. sub-agreement with the Municipality of Cape Dorset; >>Committee recessed at 17:09 and resumed at 17:25  An additional appropriation of $11,755,000 to the Department of Bill 13 – Supplementary Health and Social Services to fund Appropriation (Operations & anticipated cost pressures in the Maintenance) Act, No. 2, 2011- areas of materials and supplies, 2012 – Consideration in social programs, public health, and Committee treatment; and

Chairman (interpretation): We can now  A transfer of $850,000 from O&M to resume. At this time, we well deal with capital on behalf of Nunavut Arctic Bill 13, (interpretation ends) College to purchase a heavy Supplementary Appropriation equipment operator training (Operations and Maintenance) Act, No. simulator. 2, 2011-2012. (interpretation) I would like to ask the Minister of Finance to Mr. Chairman, this concludes my make his opening comments. Minister opening comments. I would be pleased Peterson. to take questions. Thank you.

Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Thank you, Minister Chairman. Good afternoon, Mr. Peterson. Do you have witnesses to Chairman and members. I am pleased to bring to the table, Mr. Minister? present Bill 13, Supplementary Appropriation (Operations and Hon. Keith Peterson: Yes, Mr. Maintenance) Act, No 2, 2011-2012. Chairman, I have a witness. Thank you.

Bill 13 appropriates $10,905,000 in Chairman: Does the committee agree to additional operations and maintenance bring in the witness? monies for 2011-12. The key line items consist of: Some Members: Agreed.

 A transfer of $177,000 from the Chairman: Thank you. Sergeant-at- Department of Executive and Arms, please escort the witness in. Intergovernmental Affairs to the Department of Health and Social Minister Peterson, please introduce your Services to complete the Family witness. Violence Prevention Strategy; Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr.  A transfer of $300,000 from the Chairman. My witness today is Mr. Department of Community and Chris D’Arcy, Deputy Minister for the Government Services to the Department of Finance. Thank you, Mr. Department of Health and Social Chairman.

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Chairman: Thank you, Minister violence shelters are currently operating Peterson. Welcome. (interpretation) in Nunavut? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would you like to be reminded of our rules, Rule 77(1) and Rule 77(2)? Do Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, you remember them? Thank you. Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Peterson.

Go to page 4. Questions? Ms. Ugyuk. Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank Ms. Ugyuk for that Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, question. Mr. Chairman, I don’t have Mr. Chairman. I have a question on page that information here. Thank you, Mr. 4 regarding the $177,000 figure. Chairman.

On Wednesday, October 19, I made a Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, statement in the House to express my Minister Peterson. Ms. Ugyuk. disappointment at the government’s slow progress on social issues, especially the Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you. affected families and the lack of If I understand correctly, can the protection and support for women, Minister of Health provide a response? children, and elders who are suffering Thank you. from violence and abuse. My question to the minister is: (interpretation ends) Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, what is the current status of the Family Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Peterson. Violence Prevention Strategy? (interpretation) Thank you. Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank Ms. Ugyuk for that Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, question. Mr. Chairman, we’re dealing Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Peterson. with a transfer of funds from one department to another to facilitate the Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. writing of a family violence prevention Chairman. I thank Ms. Ugyuk for the strategy. I don’t know if we came question. Mr. Chairman, the purpose of prepared for that level or depth of this transfer is to facilitate the hiring of questioning on facilities in Nunavut. one full-time employee and a casual to Thank you, Mr. Chairman. help draft the strategy and conclude it hopefully by the end of December 2011. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister Peterson. Questions? Ms. Ell.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Ms. Ell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I Minister Peterson. Any questions? Ms. would just like clarification from the Ugyuk. minister. As a distinguished colleague, Hon. Ugyuk just asked a question and an Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you answer came forth that this money is for for clarifying that. I do want to ask one full-time employee and a casual to further and I’m sure the appropriate be completed by December 2011. That minister will make a response. seems like it’s just two months away. (interpretation ends) How many family Being new, maybe he can enlighten me

Thursday, October 27, 2011 Nunavut Hansard 1421 that this is something that has been Some Members: Agreed. ongoing. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Page 5. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, (interpretation ends) Health and Social Ms. Ell. Minister Peterson. Services. Directorate. Total Directorate. $183,000. (interpretation) Do you agree? Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank Ms. Ell for the Some Members: Agreed. question. Mr. Chairman, this work has been ongoing. This was just to hire two Chairman: Social Programs. Total short-term positions to finish off the Social Programs. $6,467,000. drafting and writing of the strategy. (interpretation) Do you agree? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Some Members: Agreed. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Peterson. Ms. Ell. Chairman: Total Public Health. $232,000. (interpretation) Do you agree? Ms. Ell: Just further clarification: what was budgeted for this previously, and Some Members: Agreed. what happened that they need more funds for this? Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Treatment. Total Treatment. Chairman. $5,350,000. (interpretation) Do you agree? Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Ms. Ell. Minister Peterson. Some Members: Agreed.

Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Total Department. Chairman. I thank Ms. Ell for the $12,232,000. (interpretation) Do you question. Mr. Chairman, I don’t have agree? that level of detail here. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Some Members: Agreed.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Page 7. Minister Peterson. Any questions? We (interpretation ends) Community and are page 4. Any questions? If there are Government Services. Operations and no further questions, (interpretation Maintenance. Community Support. Total ends) Executive and Intergovernmental Community Support. -$300,000. Do you Affairs. Operations and Maintenance. agree? Total Executive and Intergovernmental Affairs. -$177,000. Agreed? Some Members: Agreed.

Some Members: Agreed. Chairman: Total Department. - $300,000. Agreed? Chairman: Total Department. - $177,000. (interpretation) Do you agree? Some Members: Agreed.

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Chairman: Nunavut Arctic College. hamlet vehicles and heavy equipment, Total Nunavut Arctic College. - such as loaders, graders, and all kinds of $850,000. Questions? Ms. Ugyuk. different heavy equipment that’s used not only in the mining industry but also Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, in all communities. Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chairman. We’re on page 8. Is that Chairman. correct? Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, I would like to ask a question to the Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk. Minister responsible for Nunavut Arctic College. (interpretation ends) Can the Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, Minister responsible for Nunavut Arctic Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask College provide additional details on the another question to the minister who just heavy equipment operator training responded to my question. simulator, including the types of training (interpretation ends) What company that will be delivered in the trades manufactured this kind of equipment? training centre in Rankin Inlet using this Thank you, Mr. Chairman. equipment? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk. (interpretation ends) Is the minister prepared to answer that Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, question? Minister Peterson. Mr. Chairman. I believe there are all kinds of different industries that Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. manufacture this type of equipment, but Chairman. I believe the Minister I’m not sure exactly who does. We responsible for Nunavut Arctic College would put a call out there and a tender indicated that he’s ready to answer that would go out, and we would get people question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. interested in submitting tenders. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Peterson. Mr. Shewchuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk. Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to thank the Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, member for the very good question. As Mr. Chairman. Yes, I wish to raise you know, we do have the new trades another question to the same minister school in Rankin Inlet and training in the who just responded. (interpretation ends) mining industry across Nunavut is very What is the timeline for installation of important. This $850,000 is being the equipment? Thank you, Mr. requested to transfer from O&M to Chairman. capital to purchase this equipment. This has not been done yet. There will be a Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, tender going out very soon to do this. Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Shewchuk. This training will provide training for heavy equipment operators both for

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Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe the timeline Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Shewchuk. would be the end of this fiscal year, so that would be the end of March 2012. Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman. I thank the member again for that question. Yes, as the member Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, knows, there are future plans to develop Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk. more mine training in the Kitikmeot and Cambridge Bay. I’m aware of the Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, simulator that is located in Cambridge Mr. Chairman. I want to ask the minister Bay, but it is owned by Kitnuna and they another question. (interpretation ends) do have it. I believe that piece of Does the trades training centre have equipment simulator was purchased in qualified staff to operate and maintain its 2004-05 or somewhere around there. I equipment? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. would like to advise that when this tender goes out, Kitnuna will have every Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, opportunity to apply for this tender and Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Shewchuk. show their interest. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe that would be Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, part of the tendering process that would Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk. come with the interest and the simulator that we need. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you. It states that you are requesting to Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, purchase a simulator for the trades Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk. school in Rankin Inlet and the minister just stated that Kitnuna can apply for Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, that tender. I don’t understand what the Mr. Chairman. I wish to ask another training would consist of if the simulator question to the minister who just was purchased. Thank you. responded. (interpretation ends) My understanding is that a similar piece of Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, equipment was purchased by Kitnuna Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Shewchuk. Corporation for use in the Kitikmeot and that the equipment is located in Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Cambridge Bay. Can the minister update Mr. Chairman. Again I think I explained us on the status of the Kitikmeot Mine that already. The training would consist Training Centre at the Cambridge Bay of heavy equipment operator training for Campus of Nunavut Arctic College, and various types of mobile equipment that’s can he clarify what kinds of heavy used in the mining industry, not only the equipment and/or mine training mining industry but in hamlets and equipment and simulators are located in communities that we all have and face in the Kitikmeot? Thank you, Mr. Nunavut. Chairman.

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I would hope that in the terms of separate from us as a government. There reference and the criteria for this type of is an Arctic College campus in simulator, it is very advanced and could Cambridge Bay and there is housing for be used for different levels of training. students. As a government, we now have Thank you, Mr. Chairman. to purchase a new simulator when there is already equipment in Nunavut. It Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, doesn’t make sense to me. That’s all I Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk. wanted to say. Thank you.

Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will explain in English. Ms. Ugyuk. (interpretation ends) (interpretation ends) You said that this Minister Shewchuk, did you want to supplementary appropriation, the make a comment? $850,000, is to buy a simulator for the trades school in Rankin Inlet, courses Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, offered there with the simulator, and Mr. Chairman. That’s right. We are then you said that Kitnuna can offer to planning on providing this to the trades sell. Is that what you are saying or offer school in Rankin Inlet. As I said, it will the course? That’s what I need be an open tender. I think what’s clarification on. Thank you, Mr. important to stress here is that we want Chairman. the best and updated capabilities to do the proper training that we do in moving Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, forward in the mining industry. Kitnuna Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Shewchuk. will be free to do that.

Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, As we move forward, I think we are also Mr. Chairman. I’ll clarify for the going to look at… . As we develop a member too. That’s exactly right. This trades mining school in the Kitikmeot, in simulator is going to be purchased and Cambridge Bay, this would probably be required for Rankin Inlet with the new looked at as there is going to be a great trades school and the facility we have. demand for this type of training to be We have the infrastructure in place to done right across Nunavut. Thank you, house such as simulator. We have the Mr. Chairman. residence in place to house students who take this heavy equipment operator Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, training. When the tender goes out, Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk. whoever has a simulator out there and can offer this type of training will be free Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): I appreciate to respond to the tender. Thank you, Mr. the answers from the Minister Chairman. responsible for Nunavut Arctic College. In the Kitikmeot, Kitnuna purchased that Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, simulator. Was the Kivalliq Inuit Minister Shewchuk. Ms. Ugyuk. Association asked to purchase the simulator that will be used at the trades Ms. Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, school in Rankin Inlet? Thank you. Mr. Chairman. I know that Kitnuna is

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, >>Laughter Ms. Ugyuk. Minister Shewchuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: Thank you, Mr. Ningeongan. Questions? Mr. Chairman. I’m not aware if there (interpretation ends) Total Nunavut was any government funding that went Arctic College. -$850,000. to purchase that simulator. Thank you, (interpretation) Do you agree? Mr. Chairman. Some Members: Agreed. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Shewchuk. Questions? Mr. Chairman: Total Department. - Ningeongan. $850,000. (interpretation) Do you agree?

Mr. Ningeongan: Thank you, Mr. Some Members: Agreed. Chairman. I’m a bit confused here. It seems to me that the Minister of Arctic Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. College, if I’m reading right, wants to Go to page 2. (interpretation ends) buy that stimulator in Cambridge Bay Operations and Maintenance and move it to… . I’m sure interest Appropriation. $10,905,000. groups out there are listening, so I can (interpretation) Do you agree? just see somebody making a bid for it already. So I’m just not clear on that. Some Members: Agreed. Can the minister explain a little bit more as to what is happening here? Chairman (interpretation): We will now (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. go to Bill 13 in your binders. Can we Chairman. now proceed? (interpretation ends) Bill 13. (interpretation) Clause 1. Do you Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, agree? Mr. Ningeongan. Minister Shewchuk. Some Members: Agreed. Hon. Daniel Shewchuk: I’ll try and explain it as clear as I can. We are Chairman (interpretation): Clause 2. Do requesting this $850,000 to purchase a you agree? simulator for the Rankin Inlet trades school. This has not been done yet. Some Members: Agreed. There will be a tender that goes out very shortly to all interested parties for them Chairman (interpretation): Clause 3. Do to bid on this simulator that we need. you agree? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Some Members: Agreed. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Shewchuk. Mr. Ningeongan. Chairman (interpretation): Schedule on page 2. Do you agree? Mr. Ningeongan: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Better said now than before. Some Members: Agreed. Thank you.

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Chairman (interpretation): Go back to Bill 14, Supplementary Appropriation clause 4. Do you agree? (Capital) Act, No. 2, 2011-2012.

Some Members: Agreed. Bill 14 appropriates a negative amount of $3,436,000 in unused capital monies Chairman (interpretation): Clause 5. Do for 2011-12. Some of the key line items you agree? consist of:

Some Members: Agreed.  An additional amount of $850,000 to the Department of Finance on behalf Chairman (interpretation): Clause 6. Do of Nunavut Arctic College to you agree? purchase a heavy equipment operator training simulator, which is a transfer Some Members: Agreed. of funds from the college’s operations and maintenance Chairman (interpretation): Clause 7. Do appropriation; you agree?  The deletion from the capital plan of Some Members: Agreed. the Nunavut Heritage Centre of $6,480,000 from the Department of Chairman (interpretation): Do you Culture, Language, Elders and agree to Bill 13 as a whole? Youth;

Some Members: Agreed.  The deletion of $1,806,000 from the Department of Community and Chairman (interpretation): Pursuant to Government Services for a variety of Rule 62(2), does the committee agree projects. These funds were carried that Bill 13 can immediately be placed over to fiscal 2011-12 at year-end on the orders of the day for third through supplementary appropriation reading? No. 1 for 2011-12 but were actually charged in the FreeBalance financial Some Members: Agreed. system as 2010-11 expenses, which is the correct accounting treatment; Chairman (interpretation): What is the and wish of the committee? Your opening comments to Bill 14, Minister Peterson.  An additional amount of $4 million to the Department of Economic Bill 14 – Supplementary Development and Transportation to Appropriation (Capital) Act, No. continue the development of the 2, 2011-2012 – Consideration in Iqaluit Airport P3 project. Committee Mr. Chairman, this concludes my Hon. Keith Peterson: Yes, Mr. opening comments. I would be pleased Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Chairman to take questions. Thank you. and members, I am pleased to present

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Chairman: Thank you, Minister Item 21: Third Reading of Bills Peterson. Mr. Aupaluktuq. Bill 13 – Supplementary Mr. Aupaluktuq: Thank you, Mr. Appropriation (Operations & Chairman. At this time, in recognition of Maintenance) Act, No. 2, 2011- the clock, Mr. Chairman, I would like to 2012 – Third Reading move to report progress, please. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move, seconded by the Hon. Chairman: We have a motion on the Member for Rankin Inlet South and floor to report progress and the motion is Whale Cove, that Bill 13, Supplementary not debatable. All those in favour. All Appropriation (Operations and those opposed. The motion is carried. I Maintenance) Act, No. 2, 2011-2012, be will now rise to report progress. read for the third time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Qujannamiik, Sergeant-at- Arms. Orders of the day. Item 20. Report Speaker: Thank you, Minister Peterson. of the Committee of the Whole. Mr. The motion is in order. To the motion. Enook. Question has been called. All those in favour. Any opposed? The motion is Item 20: Report of the Committee of carried and Bill 13 is ready for assent. the Whole Item 21. Third Reading of Bills. Minister Mr. Enook: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Peterson. Your committee has been considering Bill 13, Bill 14, and Bill 15, and would Bill 15 –Appropriation (Capital) Act, like to report progress and that Bill 13 is 2012-2013 – Third Reading immediately ready for third reading and that Bill 15 is immediately ready for Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. third reading, as amended. Mr. Speaker, Chairman. I move, seconded by the Hon. in amending Bill 15, two committee Member for Rankin Inlet South and motions were adopted. And, Mr. Whale Cove, that Bill 15, Appropriation Speaker, I move that the Report of the (Capital) Act, 2012-2013, be read for the Committee of the Whole be agreed to. third time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Thank you, Minister Peterson. Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Enook. There The motion is in order. To the motion. is a motion on the floor. Is there a Question has been called. All those in seconder? Mr. Tapardjuk. The motion is favour. Any opposed? The motion is in order. To the motion. All those in carried and Bill 15 is ready for assent. favour. Any opposed? The motion is carried. Item 21. Third Reading of Bills. Item 22. Orders of the Day. Mr. Clerk. Item 21. Third Reading of Bills. Minister Peterson.

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Item 22: Orders of the Day 20. Report of the Committee of the

Whole Clerk: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the Day for October 28: 21. Third Reading of Bills

22. Orders of the Day 1. Prayer Thank you. 2. Ministers’ Statements

3. Members’ Statements Speaker: Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until Friday, 4. Returns to Oral Questions October 28, at 9:00 a.m. 5. Recognition of Visitors in the Sergeant-at-Arms. Gallery

6. Oral Questions >>House adjourned at 18:04 7. Written Questions 8. Returns to Written Questions 9. Replies to Opening Address 10. Petitions 11. Responses to Petitions 12. Reports of Standing and Special Committees on Bills and Other Matters 13. Tabling of Documents 14. Notices of Motions 15. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills 16. Motions 17. First Reading of Bills 18. Second Reading of Bills 19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters  Bill 14  Bill 22