House of Assembly Tuesday 26 November 2019
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Tuesday 26 November 2019 The Speaker, Ms Hickey, took the Chair at 10 a.m., acknowledged the Traditional People and read Prayers. QUESTIONS Bushfire Readiness Ms WHITE question to MINISTER FOR POLICE, FIRE AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, Mr SHELTON [10.03 a.m.] Today we have heard extraordinary and alarming comments from Tasmania Fire Service insiders that the state is ill-prepared for the current bushfire season. Speaking on the condition of anonymity, these senior staff are speaking out because they are desperate for you to do something. During the last session of parliament, you made the bold declaration, and I quote: I want to reassure Tasmanians that today we are better prepared than ever before for bushfires because of the actions we have taken. That is not the view of workers on the front line. Who was telling the truth, you or senior and experienced firefighters? ANSWER Madam Speaker, I totally reject the allegations that were made. I accept the experts' advice and I am talking to the Chief Fire Officer on a regular basis. I reiterate the fact that I recognise that Tasmanians have a genuine concern about the bushfire risk. Only last week we had another total fire ban day and despite those conditions the Tasmania Fire Service had the capacity to send another 25 volunteers to Queensland to assist their bushfire efforts. Tasmanians are concerned about what they see unfolding interstate on television and over social media. They do not want that to happen here and I acknowledge that. The reality is that we live in one of the most bushfire prone states in Australia, and in the world in fact. This is why, as minister responsible, I am committed to making sure that we are ready. We are better prepared than we ever have been before. We have over 5600 firefighters ready to go. We have more than 240 remote area firefighters ready to go, right now. We have acted across all firefighting agencies. Our people are ready and our plans are in place. Brigade districts have been briefed. Fuel reduction burns have occurred in all regions. We have a new combined air desk to improve our aerial firefighting capacity. We can call on 36 aircraft from across Tasmania now. Those contracts are in place. On 1 December we will have an additional seven aircraft pre- positioned in strategic locations across the state. Only last week, we added new state-of-the-art fire trucks. We have community protection plans for all high-risk areas. Our strategy to better manage camp fires has been activated. One of the key actions that we have taken to reduce fire is the significant fuel reduction burning program. Over the past five years, the Government has funded 608 individual fuel reduction burns. Fuel reduction is about reducing the risk, noting that you can never completely eliminate it. Fuel 1 26 November 2019 reduction gives our firefighters a chance that they might otherwise not have. I am advised that our scientific analysis shows the statewide bushfire risk has reduced to its lowest level in 15 years. They are the facts. That is what we are doing. I will take the advice every day of the Chief Fire Officer. Bushfire Readiness - AFAC Review Recommendation - Incident Control Centre Ms WHITE question to MINISTER for POLICE, FIRE and EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, Mr SHELTON. [10.07 a.m.] The AFAC Review into last year's catastrophic bushfires was scathing in its assessment of the facilities at the Tasmanian Fire Service's Cambridge headquarters. The review found that the facility was - Awkwardly laid out, cramped and not supportive of contemporary incident management practice. Recommendation 9 was to commence discussions about the construction of a purpose-built, state control centre for emergency management in Tasmania. Can you confirm that your answer to these criticisms and recommendation is to place a demountable building in the Cambridge carpark to house the Incident Control Centre? Members interjecting. Madam SPEAKER - Order please. A little bit of discipline. ANSWER Madam Speaker, I thank the member for her question. As she mentioned, there was a recommendation in AFAC. As I have indicated to the House previously, that is a long-term project to make sure that we are ready. Planning and discussions regarding the statewide centre are ongoing. I have visited the Cambridge site on a number of occasions and had a tour through their training facility which, in the past, has been converted through the summer time to an incident control centre. Arrangements in the south to provide the Incident Control Centre are the same as past years. Planning is underway to determine the best approach to provide these facilities in the future. They are currently located within the training complex at Cambridge. Infrastructure arrangements have been put in place to ensure that there is no disruption to the recruit training program which will continue into and over the fire season. The Chief also informs me that the vacant buildings across the road have recently been leased for further expansion of the Cambridge site. They are currently being modified. The capacity is not diminished; in fact, it has increased with the ability to continue training while the fires are being managed. It is completely misleading of Labor to suggest otherwise. 2 26 November 2019 Ms WHITE - Point of order, Madam Speaker. It goes to Standing Order 45, relevance. The question to the minister was whether he could confirm that a demountable building has been placed in the carpark. He has not gone anywhere near answering it. Madam SPEAKER - He has already taken his seat, so I will dismiss that. Bushfire Readiness Dr WOODRUFF question to MINISTER for POLICE, FIRE and EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, Mr SHELTON [10.10 a.m.] For months we have been demanding that you provide information about what measures have been taken to protect Tasmania from bushfires this season. You have failed to reassure the community. Instead, you have denied the reality of climate heating charged bushfires and have not been able to answer basic questions about the AFAC Report's recommendations. There are reports you have had to curtail aircraft-based training activities to hold back some of the limited quota of contract flight hours that you have resourced for fighting fires this season. This morning the ABC reports Tasmania Fire Service staff are worried about resources in the south, with hundreds of thousands of dollars of overtime paid in October to cover the shortfall in staffing. You said you have every confidence in the Tasmania Fire Service to protect Tasmanians this season but when we have firefighters telling us it is luck that is getting us by, how can Tasmanians have any confidence in you to protect them this bushfire season? ANSWER Madam Speaker, I thank the member for her question. It is a broad ranging question which is a political question that she raises over the preparedness. I have been through the preparedness a number of times. I will go to the point as far as aircraft goes. The chief executive officer of the Australasian Fire and Emergency Service Authorities Council (AFAC), has expressed his view that Australia currently has sufficient resources and contingencies in place to manage the 2019-20 bushfire season. Aerial firefighting is a critical tool to the bushfire management tool box. Tasmanians have a new combined air desk to improve the aerial firefighting capability - Dr Woodruff - We are talking about Tasmania. Mr SHELTON - That is the air desk in Tasmania. Dr Woodruff - There are not enough flight hours. Madam SPEAKER - Through the Chair. Mr SHELTON - Contracts are in place to call on 36 aircraft from across Tasmania right now. From 1 December, only a couple of days away, we will have a further seven aircraft, three positioned in strategic locations around the state, to fight the fire as soon as it is identified. Dr Woodruff - You do not have enough hours to train people to do the work. 3 26 November 2019 Madam SPEAKER - Order, Dr Woodruff, please. Mr SHELTON - It is not practical or economically feasible for each jurisdiction to equip itself to meet all likely scenarios. The current model relies on the effectiveness and efficiency of sharing the resources to meet surge demand. Dr Woodruff - Stealing from the north to come to the south because there are not enough people in the south. Madam SPEAKER - Order, Dr Woodruff, please, warning number one. Mr SHELTON - This is especially relevant in the case of aviation resources which are specialised and expensive. The advantage of sharing air resources is that they are highly mobile. By early December the country will have seven large air tankers, or LATs, to use if needed; more than the five that was previously used in past fire seasons. We are well-prepared. There are national sharing arrangements in place and from an intrastate perspective, the chief fire officer has the ability to move our resources around wherever they are needed. Tasmanian Businesses - Government Support Mrs RYLAH question to PREMIER, Mr HODGMAN [10.13 a.m.] Could you please update the House on the Hodgman majority Liberal Government's strong support for Tasmanian businesses and how the Government's long-term plan is working? ANSWER Madam Speaker, I thank my parliamentary secretary, Mrs Rylah, for the question. Last week I led a trade delegation to Europe and the United Kingdom, concentrating on our world-class capabilities in the defence, energy, maritime and Antarctic sectors. During the time I was away, further reports confirmed that Tasmania's economy is the best performing in the country, supporting local businesses and more jobs. It does not happen by chance.