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Third Session – Forty-First Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs Chairperson Mrs. Sarah Guillemard Constituency of Fort Richmond Vol. LXXI No. 2 - 6 p.m., Wednesday, May 9, 2018 ISSN 1708-668X MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-First Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLUM, James Fort Garry-Riverview NDP ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley NDP BINDLE, Kelly Thompson PC CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC CURRY, Nic Kildonan PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Charleswood PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FLETCHER, Steven, Hon. Assiniboia Ind. FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GRAYDON, Clifford Emerson PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek Interlake PC JOHNSTON, Scott St. James PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP KLASSEN, Judy Kewatinook Lib. LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMOUREUX, Cindy Burrows Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Flor Logan NDP MARCELINO, Ted Tyndall Park NDP MARTIN, Shannon Morris PC MAYER, Colleen St. Vital PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Arthur-Virden PC REYES, Jon St. Norbert PC SARAN, Mohinder The Maples Ind. SCHULER, Ron, Hon. St. Paul PC SMITH, Andrew Southdale PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Verendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC SWAN, Andrew Minto NDP TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WHARTON, Jeff, Hon. Gimli PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian, Hon. Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC YAKIMOSKI, Blair Transcona PC Vacant St. Boniface 25 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS Wednesday, May 9, 2018 TIME – 6 p.m. Bill 14–The Traffic and Transportation Modernization Act LOCATION – Winnipeg, Manitoba Mr. Gavin van der Linde, Association of CHAIRPERSON – Mrs. Sarah Guillemard Manitoba Municipalities (Fort Richmond) Mr. Chris Lorenc, Manitoba Heavy Construction VICE-CHAIRPERSON – Mr. Derek Johnson Association (Interlake) Bill 18–The Child and Family Services ATTENDANCE – 11 QUORUM – 6 Amendment Act (Taking Care of Our Children) Members of the Committee present: Ms. Judy Mayer, Manitoba Metis Federation Hon. Messrs. Fielding, Schuler, Ms. Billie Schibler, Metis Child and Family Hon. Ms. Squires, Hon. Mrs. Stefanson, Services Authority Ms. Doreen Moellenbeck-Dushnitsky, Dakota Mr. Altemeyer, Ms. Fontaine, Mrs. Guillemard, Ojibway Child and Family Services Mr. Johnson, Ms. Klassen, Mr. Maloway, Ms. Natalie Daniels, Southern Chiefs' Ms. Morley-Lecomte Organization APPEARING: Ms. Joanne Crate, Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak Mrs. Bernadette Smith, MLA for Point Douglas Ms. Mary LeMaître, private citizen Ms. Amanda Lathlin, MLA for The Pas Mr. David Monias, First Nations of Northern Manitoba Child and Family Services Authority PUBLIC PRESENTERS: Ms. Cora Morgan, First Nations Family Bill 7–The Sustainable Watersheds Act (Various Advocate Office Acts Amended) Ms. Amy Komus, private citizen Mr. Matthew Shorting, private citizen Mr. Pat McGarry, Ducks Unlimited Ms. Chantel Henderson, private citizen Ms. Jill Verwey, Keystone Agricultural Producers Bill 17–The Drivers and Vehicles Amendment Mr. Gary Wayslowski, Manitoba Conservation and Highway Traffic Amendment Act Districts Association Mr. Ian Steppler, Manitoba Beekeepers' Mr. Len Eastoe, Traffic Ticket Experts Association Bill 22–The Queen's Counsel Act Ms. Alexis Kanu, Lake Winnipeg Foundation Mr. Jim Fisher, Delta Waterfowl Ms. Melissa Beaumont, Manitoba Bar Ms. Dimple Roy, International Institute for Association Sustainable Development Mr. Tim Sopuck, Manitoba Habitat Heritage WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS: Corporation Bill 7–The Sustainable Watersheds Act (Various Bill 9–The Community Child Care Standards Acts Amended) Amendment Act (Enhanced Powers Respecting Governance and Accountability) Joe Masi, Association of Manitoba Municipalities Ms. Cindy Curry, private citizen Bill Elliott, Fort Whyte Alive Ms. Gisele Roch, Child Care Coalition of Michel LeClaire, The Wildlife Society, Manitoba Manitoba Chapter 26 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 9, 2018 Bill 9–The Community Child Care Standards A standing committee meeting to consider a Amendment Act (Enhanced Powers Respecting bill must not sit past midnight to hear public Governance and Accountability) presentations or to consider clause by clause of a bill Jodie Kehl, Manitoba Child Care Association except by unanimous consent of the committee. Inc. We have a number of presenters registered to MATTERS UNDER CONSIDERATION: speak tonight as noted on the lists of presenters Bill 7–The Sustainable Watersheds Act (Various before you. Acts Amended) On the topic of determining the order of public Bill 9– The Community Child Care Standards presentations, I will note that we do have some Amendment Act (Enhanced Powers Respecting out-of-town presenters in attendance, marked with Governance and Accountability) an asterisk on the list. With this in consideration, Bill 14–The Traffic and Transportation what order does the committee wish to hear the Modernization Act presentations? Bill 17–The Drivers and Vehicles Amendment Mr. Jim Maloway (Elmwood): We'd suggest we and Highway Traffic Amendment Act deal with the bills in chronological order and that the Bill 18–The Child and Family Services out-of-town presenters be heard from first. Amendment Act (Taking Care of Our Children) Bill 22–The Queen's Counsel Act Madam Chairperson: Does the committee agree to * * * this? [Agreed] Madam Chairperson: Good evening. Will the Written submissions from the following persons Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs please have been received and distributed to the committee come to order. members: Joe Masi, Association of Manitoba Municipalities, on Bill 7; Bill Elliott, FortWhyte Our first item of business is the election of a Alive, on Bill 7; Michel LeClaire, The Wildlife Vice-Chairperson. Society, Manitoba Chapter, on Bill 7; Jodie Kehl, Are there any nominations? Manitoba Child Care Association Inc., on Bill 9. Hon. Ron Schuler (Minister of Infrastructure): I Does the committee agree to have these would like to move the member for the Interlake, documents appear in the Hansard transcript of this Mr. Derek Johnson. meeting? [Agreed] Madam Chairperson: Mr. Johnson has been Before we proceed with presentations, we do nominated. have a number of other items and points of information to consider. First of all, if there is Are there any other nominations? anyone else in the attendance who would like to Hearing no other nominations, Mr. Johnson is make a presentation this evening, please register with elected Vice-Chairperson. staff at the entrance of the room. This meeting has been called to consider the Also, for the information of all presenters, while following bills: Bill 7, The Sustainable Watersheds written versions of presentations are not required, if Act (Various Acts Amended); Bill 9, The you are going to accompany your presentation with Community Child Care Standards Amendment Act written materials, we ask that you provide 20 copies. (Enhanced Powers Respecting Governance and If you need help with photocopying, please speak to Accountability); Bill 14, The Traffic and our staff. Transportation Modernization Act; Bill 17, The Drivers and Vehicles Amendment and Highway As well, in accordance with our rules, a time Traffic Amendment Act; Bill 18, The Child and limit of 10 minutes has been allotted for Family Services Amendment Act (Taking Care of presentations, with another five minutes allowed for Our Children); Bill 22, The Queen's Counsel Act. questions from committee members. I would like to inform all in attendance of the If a presenter is not in attendance when their provisions in our rules regarding the hour of name is called, they will be dropped to the bottom of adjournment. the list. If the same presenter is not in attendance May 9, 2018 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 27 when their name is called a second time, they will be associated habitats to benefit waterfowl, wildlife and removed from the presenters' list. people. Began in 1938, right here in Manitoba at the Big Grass Marsh and has since spread all across Lastly, I would like to advise members of Canada. Now, eighty years later, DU has invested the public regarding the process for speaking in $168 million in habitat projects and secured more committee. the proceedings of our meetings are than 650,000 acres of wetland in Manitoba alone. recorded in order to provide a verbatim transcript. Each time someone wishes to speak, whether it be an DUC has a very strong following and presence MLA or a presenter, I first have to say that person's in rural and urban areas, with 60 community events name. This is the signal for the Hansard recorder to across Manitoba each year, involving 832 volunteers turn on and off the mics. and almost 11,000 supporters; that's a lot of dinners. Thank you for your patience. We will now DU and our supporters are very concerned about proceed with public presentations. the ongoing loss and degradation of wetlands and the benefits they provide. And that is why we strongly * (18:10) support Bill 7, based on what it will do for protecting Bill 7–The Sustainable Watersheds Act our essential wetlands for all of Manitobans. This bill (Various Acts Amended) represents strong leadership and recognition of the ecological and social value that wetlands provide Madam Chairperson: We are now going to deal on the landscape, and we applaud the efforts of with Bill 7, The Sustainable Watersheds Act. government to advance this important environmental We're going to deal with out-of-town presenters agenda that has been in play for some time now.