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Third Session – Forty-Second Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXXV No. 2 - 1:30 p.m., Thursday, October 8, 2020 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-Second Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ADAMS, Danielle Thompson NDP ALTOMARE, Nello Transcona NDP ASAGWARA, Uzoma Union Station NDP BRAR, Diljeet Burrows NDP BUSHIE, Ian Keewatinook NDP CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. Kildonan-River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Roblin PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GORDON, Audrey Southdale PC GUENTER, Josh Borderland PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah, Hon. Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg, Hon. Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek Interlake-Gimli PC JOHNSTON, Scott Assiniboia PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMONT, Dougald St. Boniface Lib. LAMOUREUX, Cindy Tyndall Park Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas-Kameesak NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Malaya Notre Dame NDP MARTIN, Shannon McPhillips PC MOSES, Jamie St. Vital NDP MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC NAYLOR, Lisa Wolseley NDP NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Turtle Mountain PC REYES, Jon Waverley PC SALA, Adrien St. James NDP SANDHU, Mintu The Maples NDP SCHULER, Ron, Hon. Springfield-Ritchot PC SMITH, Andrew Lagimodière PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Vérendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WASYLIW, Mark Fort Garry NDP WHARTON, Jeff, Hon. Red River North PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC 13 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Thursday, October 8, 2020 The House met at 1:30 p.m. spaced out MLA seating in the benches. Members seated in the fourth row will proceed to the podiums Madam Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, by the east and west loges to speak. The result is that from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are about half of our 57 MLAs will participate in House assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as sittings virtually, and the other half will be here in the may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our Chamber. province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only that which is in accordance with There are many aspects of virtual sittings which Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom and know will be different and a little bit unusual, but our Clerk it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the and her team of expert staff have considered these glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of contingencies and come up with creative solutions. all our people. Amen. Over the coming weeks and months, we will employ Please be seated. variations on processes which have been followed in this Legislature for 150 years, and I have great Speaker's Statement confidence in our communal ability to adapt and to Madam Speaker: I have a statement for the House. continue to serve the people of Manitoba to the best of our abilities. Good afternoon and welcome to the first virtual sitting in the 150-year history of the Manitoba I know members have benefited from one-on-one Legislature. and group training sessions over the past few weeks, and I would encourage all members to consult our As members have probably gathered by now, clerks if you have any questions, and also remember virtual sittings of the House are very complicated to thank our team for all their work making this operations. There are many moving parts to this happen. endeavour, and our staff have devoted many weeks of intense effort to make this process work as well as I would ask all members to please be patient with possible. the clerks and with me. We will be doing our best, but Before we start, I want to say thank you to all our we need your understanding and kindness at this time. staff who have devoted many, many hours to prepare There will be glitches–as we said, this is a for this process over the last few months. Putting this complex situation–so your support will be much operation together has been incredibly complex, needed and much appreciated. requiring expertise, co-operation, endless patience and above all, determination. As a result of their hard Thank you very much. work, the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba now has the ability to continue to meet despite the many Introduction of bills–oh. necessary restrictions and limitations on life during ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS the COVID-19 pandemic. Madam Speaker: Introduction of bills? By providing this service for MLAs and therefore allowing the citizens of Manitoba to stay in touch with COMMITTEE REPORTS their Legislature, this team has served us all very well, Standing Committee on Public Accounts and for that we should be very grateful. Second Report In addition to the ability to participate virtually Mr. Jim Maloway (Chairperson): I wish to present in the House sittings, in consultation with the the second report of the Standing Committee on House leaders and the member for River Heights Public Accounts. (Mr. Gerrard), we have also made changes to how members are seated in the Chamber to ensure safe Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing physical distancing for all members and staff in the Committee on Public Accounts presents the Chamber. We have added a fourth row of seats and following– 14 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 8, 2020 Some Honourable Members: Dispense. Officials Speaking on Record at the June 10, 2020 meeting: Madam Speaker: Dispense. • Your Standing Committee on Public Accounts Mr. Tyson Shtykalo, Deputy Auditor General of presents the following as its Second Report. Manitoba • Hon. Mr. SCHULER, Minister of lnfrastructure Meetings • Mr. Tareq Al-Zabet, Deputy Minister of Your Committee met on June 10, 2020 at 7:00 p.m. in lnfrastructure the Chamber of the Legislative Building: • Ms. Ruth Eden, Acting Assistant Deputy Minister of lnfrastructure Matters under Consideration Agreements: • Auditor General's Report - Follow-Up of Recommendations - dated March 2017 Your Committee agreed to conclude consideration of o Waiving of Competitive Bids Waiving of Competitive Bids of the Auditor General's Report-Follow-Up of Recommendations - dated • Auditor General's Report - Follow-Up of March 2017. Recommendations - dated March 2018 o Waiving of Competitive Bids Your Committee agreed to conclude consideration of o Management of Provincial Bridges Waiving of Competitive Bids of the Auditor General's o Manitoba East Side Road Authority Report-Follow-Up of Recommendations - dated March 2018. • Auditor General's Report - Follow-Up of Recommendations - dated March 2019 Your Committee agreed to conclude consideration of o Management of Provincial Bridges Management of Provincial Bridges of the Auditor o Manitoba East Side Road Authority General's Report-Follow-Up of Recommendations - dated March 2018. • Auditor General's Report - Department of Infrastructure: Oversight of Commercial Vehicle Your Committee agreed to conclude consideration of Safety - dated December 2019 Manitoba East Side Road Authority of the Auditor General's Report-Follow-Up of Recommendations - • Auditor General's Report - Follow-up of dated March 2018. Recommendations - dated March, 2020 o Management of Provincial Bridges Your Committee agreed to conclude consideration of o Manitoba East Side Road Authority Management of Provincial Bridges of the Auditor General's Report-Follow-Up of Recommendations - Committee Membership dated March 2019. Committee Membership for the June 10, 2020 Your Committee agreed to conclude consideration of meeting: Manitoba East Side Road Authority of the Auditor • Mr. JOHNSTON General's Report-Follow-Up of Recommendations - • Mr. LAMONT dated March 2019. • Mr. LINDSEY Your Committee agreed to conclude consideration of • Mr. MALOWAY (Chairperson) Management of Provincial Bridges of the Auditor • Mr. MICHALESKI General's Report-Follow-Up of Recommendations - • Ms. MORLEY-LECOMTE dated March 2020. • Ms. NAYLOR • Mr. SMITH (Vice-Chairperson) Your Committee agreed to conclude consideration of Manitoba East Side Road Authority of the Auditor • Mr. TEITSMA General's Report-Follow-Up of Recommendations - • Mr. WASYLIW dated March 2020. • Mr. WISHART Substitutions received prior to committee proceedings Reports Considered and Passed: on June 10, 2020: Your Committee has considered the following report • Ms. NAYLOR for Mrs. SMITH (Point Douglas) and has adopted the same as presented: October 8, 2020 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 15 • Auditor General's Report-Department of Matters under Consideration Infrastructure: Oversight of Commercial Vehicle • Safety - dated December 2019 Auditor General's Report – Follow-Up of Previously Issued Recommendations – dated Reports Considered but not Passed: May 2014 Section 16 – Managing Climate Change Your Committee has considered the following reports o but did not pass them: • Auditor General's Report – Follow-Up of Previously Issued Recommendations – dated • Auditor
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