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Daemon News: October 2004 http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200410/ Mirrors Primary (US) Issues November 2004 October 2004 Get BSD Contact Us Search BSD FAQ New to BSD? DN Print Magazine BSD News BSD Mall BSD Support Join Us T H I S M O N T H ' S F E A T U R E S From the Editor Fetching Yahoo! Mail by Mikel King Editorial by Chris Coleman I thought it might be nice to start off with a simple little article about a How can you help advocate simple app in the ports tree that I find perticularly useful. It is called BSD? fetchyahoo, basically what it does is fetch your email out of your mail.yahoo.com account via the http interface and download it into a mailbox. Of course that may not seem all that special or important, Get BSD Stuff but what is really cool about this app is where it can put the messages, and some of the advanced features, like dump the bulk messages, and automatic expunging of the deleted messages. 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Miscellaneous Credits The hard-working crew Tarball Download a tar.gz version of this issue PDF Download a PDF version of this issue 2 of 2 08.03.2005 14:00 Daemon News '200410' : '"Advocating BSD "' http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200410/editorial.html October 2004 Get BSD New to BSD? Search BSD Submit News FAQ Contact Us Join Us Advocating BSD Search Chris Coleman Monthly Ezine I've long been a fan of BSD. I began using BSD seriously in 1995, mostly FreeBSD, but dabbling with the other projects as needs arose. As I began to Search be more proficient in BSD and the Unix technologies I looked around for ways that I could contribute back to the project that was helping me out. I didn't know how to code very well, so I turned to my other hobby and began Get BSD Stuff to write. I found I really liked writing about BSD and quickly found that I liked explaining technical things. The first project I started out on was overly difficult. I tried writing a book about FreeBSD. At the time, only Greg Lehey's Complete FreeBSD book was around and I thought it would be a good idea to see another one. Linux books had started to pop up here and there. I ended up writing a great deal of text that I posted on the internet for everyone to read as I went. It wasn't the success I dreamed about, however, I did manage to get a book contract with a large publisher a short time later and began working on a BSD book with two other friends. However, the publisher dropped the book after some difficulties with us turning in our chapters in a non-Word format. Also, I think they couldn't see the market for the FreeBSD book yet. But I didn't give up. I did decide that a book wasn't really what I wanted to do anyway. I turned my time back to working on smaller technical articles that I could more easily wrap my brain around. It's much easier to make one point in an article than to stay on topic while trying to lead up to that point in a larger work. So, all of my current work goes into the Daemon News Ezine. It's a lot of work and it's all volunteer. I also think it's worth it. I find myself often referring to articles on Daemon News when working on BSD related tasks. Sometimes they are even my own articles. (Which I wrote just to document how I did something so I wouldn't forget it.) But there is a lot more to be done. I feel that quite a bit more advocacy work could be done. Recently I have had to work with a few Linux installations and every time it reminds me how much I like BSD. I'm probably just biased, but I find BSD to be extremely well suited to the kind of work I do. However, I'd like to do more than just talk about how much advocacy we need. So, I've helped put together http://advocacy.daemonnews.org as a place where we can share ideas about BSD advocacy. Recently I put a note up there for people to call Digium to let them know about interest from the BSD community in their products. So far, their response seems to be positive. With a little effort from the community, we can keep BSD on the radar scope of companies developing hardware and add it to a few company buzz words. -Chris Coleman Author maintains all copyrights on this article. Images and layout Copyright © 1998-2004 Dæmon News. All Rights Reserved. 1 of 1 08.03.2005 14:00 Daemon News '200410' : '"Fetching Yahoo! Mail "' http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200410/fetchyahoo.html October 2004 Get BSD New to BSD? Search BSD Submit News FAQ Contact Us Join Us Fetching Yahoo! Mail Search By Mikel King <[email protected]> Monthly Ezine I thought it might be nice to start off with a simple little article about a simple app in the ports tree that I find particularly useful. It is called fetchyahoo. Search Basically, what it does is fetch your email out of your mail.yahoo.com account via the http interface and download it into a mailbox. Of course, that may not seem all that special or important, but what is really cool about this app is where it can put the messages, and some of the advanced features, like Get BSD Stuff dumping the bulk messages and automatic expunging of the deleted messages. Now, one of the first things I usually do before I build anything from the ports tree is run a quick cvsup off my in house mirror to refresh the tree on the machine I am using. I find that this is generally a good thing to do. For instance, the version in the ports tree is 2.8.6 and mine is 2.8.0 which, of course, is not that great, but if you are going to take the time to build something, then why not do it right? OK, so building the port is easy once you complete the cvsup. I did have some trouble with the fetching of various dependencies but I suspect that was more or less bandwidth related. But, eventually, the make install clean will complete and you will be able to step into the .fetchyahoorc configuration file. A sample can be found in the build directory, and excerpts are included for explanation, as follows. This first section is rather self explanatory, just substitute your yahoo credentials here and then proceed to the next section. ###### SHOULD configure these ###### username = *yahoo-user-name* # this can be a password or an md5_hex hashed password password = *yahoo-password* # set this to 0 to turn off HTTPS and login insecurely via plaintext instead use-https = 1 ###### mail spool, mbox file and procmail configs ###### # set use-spool to 0 to disable outputting to a file/filter use-spool = 1 # if spoolName ends with a / we output in maildir format to that directory spool = /var/spool/mail/*local-user-name* # spool-mode must be either append, pipe or overwrite # use pipe for procmail or other filter and append for a normal spool # ignored if spoolName is a maildir directory spool-mode = append OK, at this point we could fire off a sync and download the email into a standard Unix type mailbox.