325 Announcement by SpeakerAGRAHAYAm 7,1913 {SAKA) Televising of Lo/f 326 Sa^ha Proceedings situation stabilised. keeping with the decorum of the House may not be televised. (0) No. Sir. (vl) that a trial for televising the (d) Does not arise. proceedings may be heki on any day as may be decided by the 12.00 hrs. Speaker.
ANNOUNCEMENT BY SPEAKER (vii) that the actual televising of the Question Hour may be started TELEVISING OF LOK SABHA on a day as may be decided by PROCEEDINGS the Preskiing Offrcer.
[English] (viii) that, as and when necessary, the matters pertaining to it may MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Members, be considered in the Business the question of televising the proceedings of Advisory Committee. the House was discussed with the Leaders of the Parties and Groups, the Ministers of (Ix) that since the time available at Parliamentary Affairs and Information and the inriial stages Is limited, the Broadcasting, the concerned officers of the televising has to be done to fit in Ministry of Information and Broadcasting, the available slot. the CPWD and the Lok Sabha Secretariat. The matter was briefly and informally (X) that the telecasting may be done discussed at the meeting of the Leaders of on an experimental basis. Parties and Groups also. It has been considered by the General Purposes (xl) that further necessary steps in Committee.of Lok Sabha. It has also been this regard may be taken on the considered at a joint meeting of the General basis of the experience in this Purposes Committees of Lok Sabha and respect. Rajya Sabha on 26 November. 1991. The consensus arrived in these meetings was as I hope these arrangements will receive follows: the approval of this House.
(i) thattheproceedingsintheHouse SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes. may be televised. (Interrapfion)
(ii) that, at the Initial stage, the SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE- Question Hour may be televised. (Dum Dum): Sir, t am afraid, more and more utterances will be declared unpariianr^ntary, (ill) that, at laterstages. proceedings than otherwise... (Interruption).,, relating to legislation «id the financial and other important [Translation] matters may be televised. SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Sir. the (iv) that tbe detailed modalities in Zero Hour is tfie nnost important period, what this regard may be worked out do you propose to do abo*>t that?... by the agencies concerned and {Inten^upiion).,. a ^^ve b y the Presiding Offwer.
(V) that the matters which are held SHRI RAM ViLAS PASWAN (Rosera): by the Presiding Officer as Sir. who Witt be the contrdlll^ authority? Win unparliamentary and not In it be the Governnfmnt or Ijeglbfatur^^ 327 Announcement by Speaker NOVEMBER 28.1991 TelevisktgofLok32B Sabha Proceedings MR. SPEAKER: ttwillbethe Legislature. televising it.
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SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV MR. SPEAKER: Shrl MoiBshwar Save. (Azamgarti): Sir, who will edit the portion when you say something is unparliamentary? [Translation] (Intorruptlon) SHRI MORESHWAR SAVE I want to l
SW IMUKUL BALKfilSHNA WASNIK SHRI M.R. KADAMBUR (BuMana): Nirmaljf, today we are not JANARTHANAN (Tirunelvell): Sir, through 329 /^nouncernentbySpeskerNSmWfMik 7.1913 {SAKA) Televising ofLdOSO Sabha Proceedings you I would like to draw the attention of the [TranslatloiH Railway Ministry to the decision of the Government to remove the existing age old SHRI RAM V IU ^ PASWAN (Rosera): metre guage line from maniyachi junction to Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wouki like to draw your Madurai Junction, thereby a great injustice attention in brief to the problems of the Adivasis living In various parts of the country. Is done to the entirely people of southern Today, the most distressing situation is that districts of Tamil Nadu. These people will ise the condition of the Adivasis has become deprived of theirtraveiing right straight to the miserable to an extent that they are reported State Capital, Madras, so far enjoyed from to be dying of starvation at several places. the British days. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I visited Karnataka on So, under the pretext of conversion of the 20th. There Is as Gopal Gowda Katta B.G. line, the existing M.g. line should not be colony in Dadadaii village in Mysore district rsmovedtheB.G. line,from KarurtoTuticorin, where eight Adivasi boys and a woman died the new project, should be a parallel line to of starvation during the period from June 22 the existing M.G. line thereby giving the to July 22. They were rehabilitated In the facility of the new B.G. project to have a new colony there from forest. But no road leads direct link with northern parts of our country to that place. We walked three kilometres to without removing the existing M.G. line direct reach there with a joumaiist. They have not link to Madras, thereby justk» will be done means of livelihood. They wori( from dawn to to the people of the southem districts of dusk in fields as daily wage-eamers only for Tamii Nadu. three months. The daily wages of Rs. fourto a woman and Rs. five to a man 9re paM. SHRI G.M.C. BALAYOGI (Amalapuram): Sir, the recent heavy rains I am saying ail this for bringing It on andfloods in Andhra Pradesh caused heavy record. The Govemment shouM investigate damage to standing crops. The estimated whether it Is true or not. The name of the toss of crops is about Rs. 200 crorss. The woman who died is Kulamma. She was 45. Konaseema area, particularly my The chiklren who died were in the age group constituency Amalapuram in East Godavari of 2 to 5. Their names are Basava. Ratna, DIstrtot, considered to be the Rice Bowl of Mahadevi, Rajappa, Chelavi and Mara. Andhra Pradesh, faced the brunt of these These eight chiklren died of stan^atton. The heavy rains. Thousands of acres of day we reached there, we found that there agrkuiitural land were submereged in river was no school what to speak of health. They and rain waters. Many people who took drink water from a nearby pond. They have loans for purchasing fertilisers are facing tot no means of theiriivelihood. lhave just cited of problems in repaying the loans. an example here. Similariy wherever there are tribal areas in anyState,thelrplfght is the same even after 45 years of Independence. I draw the attentipn of the hon. Minister They are out ot the mainstream. This Is not for Agriculture tosee that the FCI is instructed merely a state issue. Therefore, I urge the to purchase the discoloured paddy. Government of India that it Is not a matter of Secondly, seeds pesttoktes and fertilisers any State but it is a matter of the tribais for may be supplied at subskllsed rates to the whom the Govemment shoukl chalk out farmers in the area and prOpercompensatlon programmes for their employment for the preservation of their culture and for saving may be given to the farmers to recoverfrom them from starvatton. Ail the State Chief th« toss. The proposed crop insurance should Ministers shoukl t>e Invited to discuss the be made availabto on the basis of survey severe problem of Adivasis seriously and nunrtbers of their individual land holdings, anriounce the amount of compensation to not taking district as a unit. Then only the the starvation victims. But programmes crop Insurance or toan Insurance can t>e shoukl also be chalked out to previsnt the useful to the farmers. further spread of starvation. 33^ Announcement by Speaker NOVEMBER 28.1991 Televising ofLx)kS32 Sabha Proceedings [English] Andhra Pradesh also. We have already referred to the starvation deaths in Tripura In SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE the House, Dr. Ram Chandra Dome had (Dum Dum): Mr. Speaker, Sir. since 1947 raised it last week. But there has been no we are taking prkje that 1943 famine of action, no response. Therefore, now you Bengal will not take place any nnore; it was have made this obsen/atlon. I hope, the not taking place. If the situation has turned Govemment woukitake it seriously in respect to this position that people are dying t>ecause of these starvation deaths all over India. We of starvation and that too at that end of the have also raised It. spectrum, then the tribals, woe will befall us. So, the Govemment of India must do These important matter were raised. I something about it. We cannot just allow find. Shri Arjun Singhji generally responding. these things to happen. It is shocking to hear This a very serious matter. Probably he was that even today the people are dying because not here. Others were probably dozing. But they cannot have food and because they something shouki be done. {Interruption) donot have income. Are we going back to pre-1947 days? The Government must “ MR. SPEAKER: This is not correct. respond to this matter. That is my humble Allow him to speak. request through vou. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Neither MR. SPEAKER: It starvation deaths the State Government nor the Central have taken place whether of Adlvasis or Govemment has taken any step to save the other persons, it is a grave matter. Let us lives of the people in Tripura. first of all know what is the fact and if it is a fact, then proper remedial measures should SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA betaken by the State Government as well as (Andaman-Nicobar Islands): The hon. the Central Government after ascertaining Member, Shri Nirmal Chatterjee has rightly the reality and the facts. spoken that after 1943 we had taken a pledge that there would be no starvation SHRI BASU DEV ACHARIA (Bankura): deaths. And the Congress Party and the Sir. in Tripura. a number of people have died CongressGovemniient, after independence, of starvation. The State Govemment has ail these years, have pursued-this polfcy. taken no steps to save the lives of tribai That is why, Sir, it is absolutely necessary people of Tripura. that when some starvation death reports are coming in. the Central Government should MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Acharia, if you enquire whether it is really starvation death have understood what I have said, then you or some other diarrhoea death or some would not have raised it again. other disease-related death. The twenty- point progranrvne andthe other programmes SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar): which are there are nneant for the poor Mr. Speakers. Sir, it should not be confined people. By persuasion, through Jawahar only to Karnataka. Just as the Tripura inckJent Rozgar Yojana, IRDP etc., everywhere the has been pointed out, there has been a very Government has ensured that there Is no long, disturbing and harrowing article in stan/ation death. Frontline about starvation deaths In Andhra Pradesh. Therefore. the Govemment of India If there Is anything reported so far should come to Parliament with a whether It Is in the tribal area or no -tribal comprehensive scheme. area, this shouki be eqnuired into by the Government properly and they shouW report SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE it to Parliament so that once for all, it should (Bolpur); Speakers, Sir, Ram Vilasji has be clear that there is no politically motivated raised this nfiatterand he referred particularly kind of insinuation against the Govemment. to Karnataka and news has come about (interruption) 333 Announcement by Spe?a/cerAGRAHAYANA 7.1913 {SAKA) Televising of Lol< 334 Sabha Proceedings SHRIBASU DEB ACHARIA: Starvation indicate what kind of agency should be there death has been reported in Andhra Pradesh, for proper enquiry. in Karnataka and in Tripura. In spite of that, the Government is silent. {Interruption) MR. SPEAKER: I am not enquiring Into It. MR. SPEAKER: When important issues are raised and if ail the members stand up SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Let there and speak, the importance of the issue is be a House Committee which will enquire lost. into.
We do not know what to do in the SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY matter. That is why. when it was pointed out. (Jagatslnghpur): Whenever the question of from the Chair I said, let us find out and let starvation death is raised, either this us take the measures. Even after that if you Government or any other Government have insist and persist in saying things. I do not denied it. Therefore, the whole fact of know what Is going to conne out of it. And if starvation deaths remains underthe carpet. you want to speak on that, I have no objection, This has been the habit in this country for but I am allowing Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev. several years. You already commented that it is a grave matter and that it shouW be SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: enquired into. We want the Government to Whatever charges have come, let there be set up an independent mechanism by which an enquiry and let the Government come it should ascertain the facts wherever again and report. starvation deaths take place.
SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Whatever MR. SPEAKER: Shri Arjun Singh is charges have conne. let there be an enquiry responding on behalf of the Government. and let the Government come again and Let him respond. report. THE MINISTER OF HUMAN SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Who will RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI inquire? (Interruption) This was raised in ARJL«N SINGH): Sir. I am very grateful to this House during the Budget Session. The you that in consonance with the wishes Government did not make any enquiry. iVhat expresses by the hon. Members, you were enquiry wr>uld you mako? kind enough to give a direction and I would assure you that direction will be carried out SHRI CHITTA BASU (Ba. as at): are fi'Mv. Now on the baste question of these happy to note that you have >?iurselt made incidents happening and how to ascertain certain remarks. the tacts and then apply the remedies, I must confess my own experience in the MR. SPEAKER: I have not made any matter Is that there is lot of difffculty in derogatory remarks! coming to the truth and I wouki like to join the House In this effort that in cases of such SHRI CHITTA BASU: The pertinent lamentable lapeses where people die of question is. who will hold the enquiry. Does starvation, as is alleged, there must be the Government propose to let the enquiry some machinery in which every one has a to be gone into by the State Government or stake. It Is not a question of my coming to any other agency? Therefore, there Is grave you with a report that I get from any State, doubt becuase the State Government i am glad that the hon. Leader of the generally do not accept their fault. Therefore, Opposition has put the entire issue in the purpose for which we have made the perspective that this does not relate to a remark will be defeated. particular State. This Is not a political issue. But the fact remains that if an allegation like Therefore, I would request you to kindly this is made, one must go to the root of the 335 Announcement by Speaker NOVEMBER 28,1991 Televising of Lok 336 Sabha Proceedings [Shri Arjun Singh] got up and said that he would certainly do it and he would try to evolve a method which matter and any lapse on account of anybody will not leave any doubt in such matters. must be addressed to immediately with Afterthat also, if you continue doing that, will whatever consequences may follow and In it be all right? this respect, I would like to assure through you the House that I will take up this matter SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV with the hon. Home Minister and also with (Azamgarh): Sir, I want to raise one matter. the Prime Minister and, if necessary. I will request them to talk to some of the Senior SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO (Dhenkanal): In Members of the House to evolve such the case of Orissa, 5000 people died of machinery so that on such issues there is no starvation. Even the Deputy Speaker had to controversy In the House and then we can get up In the House and say that the white say what has to be done. paper was misnomer. I request through you the Leader of the House to take it up with the [Translation] Leader of the Opposition and with the Prime Minister, this case of 5,000 tribals dying of SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: I could starvation in Orissa, Koraput district which have spoken about the whole nation but 1 was denied and the Deputy Speaker of the have cited an example of the place which I Orissa Assembly had to put the record visited myself on the 20th and took stock of straight. the situation. It should be inquired into and then I may be informed. MR. SPEAKER: I think hunger, life and death should be treated above politics and SHRI ARJUN SINGH: This is what I this matter should be dealt with in that have stated. manner only, wherever It takes place. In this State orthat State. Sht3 Advaniji has said the SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: It is a fact same thing and the hon. Leader has said the but you are talking of making a law. The hon. same thing. It should be. death within that Members have mentioned about such manner and if there is scope for reports according to their information. I have improvement, certainly let us apply our mind cited an example about one place only. The and evolve a method to see that such things hon. Member is citing example about Tripura. do not happen. It should be Inquired Into the report laid on the Table of the House. (Interruptions)
SHRI ARJUN SINGH: I have not said SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Midnapore); that information wilt not be collected on what Sir, the starvation deaths, when they are Shri Paswan has stated. The information reported or alleged, may shake our would rather be collected first on that. conscience a bit, no doubt. But the point is that there are vast numbers of people in this SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: The country who are living In conditions of chronic Government should made a statement starvation. Everyday they may not be dying whether it would inform the House in this but they are living In conditions of chronic connection. Through you, we have raised starvation. With a daily wage of Rs. 4/- that the Issue. the woman was earning, what do youexpect her to eat or to give her children to eat? [EnglistH Therefore, a much rnore basic question Is involved. MR. AKER: You raised the matter. lalJowed Members to speaks. I asked MR. SPEAKER: That is exactly the the Government to look into it and to take problem that we will address to. Certainly we rennedial measures. The leader of the house willdiscuss it when We discuss the economic 337 Announcement by Spea^orAGRAHAYANA 7.1913 {SAKA) Televising of Lok 338 Sabha Proceedings situation. Bihar. Moreover. he was a close associate of Shri Jai Prakash Narayan. Geography, SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: When history, turn of events and civilisation bind are you going to discuss It? both these countries together. It would be suicidal if these factors are ignored. Nature, MR. SPEAKER: We are going to fix the mountains and rivers have built a bridge time. between the two countries. We may utilize these sources very convenientlyforbringing SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV; We about basic changes in the living standards must give priority to this Issue. of the citizens of both the nations. The World Bank has estimated that nearly ten thousand MR. SPEAKER; We will fix the time. mega wait hydroelectricity can be generated as a boon from the Himalayas in Nepal. {Interruptions) Similarly, certain Indian rivers originate from Himalayas ranges in Nepal. These rivers are [Translation] as good as life line for North Bihar and North- East Uttar Pradesh. These rivers may prove SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH very beneficial with the mutual cooperation (Sheohar): Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is a matter of of these two friendly countries. happiness that the Prime Minister of our neighbouring country Nepal Hon*bte Shri [English] Girija Prasad Koirala is likely to visit India on his first foreign tour very shortly. His visit is MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Hari Kishore significant for these two neighbouring Singh, it Is Zero Hour, you cannot make a countries. In NepaFs democratic history, the speech now. Please conclude. contribution of Koirala family has been unique. [Translation]
Not only Shri Matrika Prasad Koirala or SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH: Mr. Late Shri Bisheshwar Prasad Koirala, but Chairman. Sir, my constituency is on the also their family members have been the Indo-Nepal border. The river Baghmatl source of inspiration for Nepal and for the whose origin are the golden crests of snow long democratic struggle of people of Nepal capped Himalayas. When it enters the plains but they also participated actively in India’s on its serpentine way touching the holy feet freedom struggle. of Lord Pashupatinath and pours down large amounts of water not only in the area in my 12.27 hrs. constituency but In my village Chamanpur also which sometimes proves as a boon and [SHRI P.M. SAYEED in the Chaii] sometimes as bane for the lives of the citizens of the plains of these two nations. Late Shri Bishweshwar Prasad Koriala Therefore. I would like to urge the and his elderbrother Shri Matrika Babu had Govemment to discuss decisively all the been put into Indian jails of the British points relating to the river-group of Baghmati, imperialists during decisive moments of Adhwara, Kamala Balan and Koshi and India’sfreedomstruggle. Late Bishweshwar Pancheshar and Karnali projects with the Prasad Koirala was called the Gandhi, the Hon. Prime Minister of the friendly country Jawahar and the Jai Prakash by the people Nepal during his visit to India so that both the there. nations may benefit equally in accordance with the SAARC spirit. Late Shri Bishweshar Prasad Koirala was closely associated with India's Socialist Mr. Chairman, Sir, on this occasion. I Movement. He was a pronninent offk:e bearer would like to welcome the new High of the Congress Socialist Party in my state Commissioner of Nepal. His ExceUency Shri 339 Announcement by Speaker NOV/EMBER 28,1991 Televising of Lok 340 Sabha Proceedings [Shri Haii Kishore Singh] from Punjab and Assam to kerala. The KeralaGvoernmentisfacingagreat crisis to Chakra Vastoiami and wish that during his distribute adequate quantities of rice. I tenure the friendship between India and request that the Government of India should Nepal will be strenghened further. take Immediate action to make available sufficient number of wagons as well as to •SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHVAN take all steps in this regard to make available (Palakkad): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I draw the sufficient quantities of rice for distribution in attention otthe House to the serious situation Kerala. arising out of the spread of Cholera in the Palakkad district of Kerala, it has already Also the Andhra boiled rice whrch is clainned to lives and is spreading to many preferred in Kerala is to be distributed there. parts of the district. The industrial belt of Kerala Government has, in fact. Increased Kanjikode. Chittur. alakkadtaluqs are badly the ration and is giving fifty kilograms of rice affected. The main reason is that there is per head, per month at a stage when the shortage of drinking water and people drink cost has gone up. I woukj urge upon the contaminated water. During Rajiv’s period, Government to give support to the Kerala we were give a technology mission for Government in this regard and to take providing drinking water in Palakkad. But the immediate measures in this regard. previous CPM Govt, did not implement and {Interruption) thus, the people did not get the benefit of the mission. [Translation]
None that thisf atal epidemic is spreading SHRI SURAJ MANDAL: I may also immediate steps should be taken to arrest it. move to that side since you are not calling The centre nrTust send a study team my name. {Interruption) immediately to Kerala to find out the cause of the recurrence of Cholera, and also MR. CHAIRMAN: His name is there in suggest measures to wipe out this nnenance. the list. He has given notice. Also, the technology mission should be furtherextand and funds should be provkJed {Interruptions) so that the object of this mission could be achieved....(/nferri/pf/or?).... SHRI SURAJ MANDAL: You are not giving me an opportunity. {Interruption) [English] [English] SHRI P.C. THOMAS (Mavattupuzha): The situation In Kerala is such that it will face MR. CHAIRMAN: Ail those hon. a great crisis. Members who have given their names to the Speaker and whose names the Speaker has {Interruptions) admitted. I am only going through that list. There is no addition from my side. MR. CHAIRMAN: If your name is there I wilt call you. {Interruptions)
{Interruptions) SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA RAJE (Jhalawar): 1 want to bring to the notk:e of the SHRI P.C. THOMAS; Centre has to House something which is of great take Immediate action in this regard because importance and which was reported In the of the scarcity to get wagons tor taking rice *Indian Express’three days ago. It conforms
* * Translation of the mention originally made in Malayalam • 341 Announcement by SpeakerAGRAHAYAhlA 7.1913(SAKA) Televising of 342 Sabha Proceedings the exchange of hardco<^e militants for the released." release of hostages, a particular case which happened in Rajasthan Recently the Home These are quotes from the letter. Minister Shri S.B. Chavan had lambasted the National Front Government when Shri MR. CHAIRMAN: Yesterday Shri Buta Mufti Mohammed Sayeed*s daughter singh was not allowed to refer to this Rubaiya was released in exchange of some controversial matter. Kindly keep it in mind. ten'orists. But he himself has written to the Rajasthan Chief Minister Shri Bhairon Singh SHRIMATI VASUNDARA RAJE: I have Shekhawat for the release of two harris;ore taken the permission from the Speaker. I Punjab terrorists. These were supposed to shouki be allowed to finish it because it is t>e exchanged in lieu of a relative of Shri Buta very very important. Singh, in fact, a nephew of Shri Buta Singh. The two militants whose release the tenrorists MR. CHAIRMAN: I know that; but you had demanded are under detention under should not bring in the controversial aspect the TADA Act in Rajasthan. Shri Shekhawat of It. turned down the Union Home Minister’s request because our party categorically SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA RAJE: I refuses to succumb to any pressure from have done it with the penmission of the militants. However, the hostage Shri Ranjrl Speaker. Singh w»"0 is Shri Buta Singh’s niece’s son was freed last week afterthe Centre took up MR. CHAIRMAN: I don’t think the the issue with the Punjab administration. Speaker has given you permission to bring in some controversial matter. Please avoid In a letter on 31st August 1991 to Shri such matters. Yesterday he had objected to Shekhawat the Home Minister wrote: this matter.
“It is understood that the kidnappers SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA RAJE: Shri are demanding release of twoterrorists Rajendria Shekhar was asked to enquire into who are under detention of the State the matterby ShriShekhawatandthe names Government of Rajasthan for the of the two terrorists Gurnal Singh alias Ajeet release of the t>oy.’' and Dharampal Singh alias Dharma came up. Shri Shekhar told us that the two MR. CHAIRMAN: Please be brief. detainees had been involved In a daring gun-running operation. The duo were part of SHRIMATIVASUNDHARA RAJE: Yes a gang of 11 who hid arms secured from Sir. But it is very important. Pakistan in salt bags, which they then carried in trucks from Jaisalmer in Rajasthan into He says:"Kindly Instruct the poitee authorities Punjab. The report stated that it has come for expediting the release of the out of interrogation that the two terrorists t>oy from the captivity of the were active In suing the international border ten'orists of Punjab." at Jaisalmer to smuggle arms and ammunition, and that a section of the local On 29th August, Shri Buta Singh had population were provkitng support to them. written to the Home Minister saying that: Because of this Shri Shekhawat turned down the Unk>n Home Minister's request. "I talked to Shri Shekhar, DG. Rajasthan Police, who informed me We wouki like to remind the House that that these two tenx)rists were detained at the time when the Janta Government was under TADA for their alleged under pressure to release Mufti Mohammed Involvement in arms smuggling. The Sayeed*s daughter, there was a huge hue kkfnappers have threatened to kill the and cry by the Congress Party about a boy unless these two tenrorists are particular polrcy laid down. The Congress 343 Announcement by Speaker NOVEMBER 28,1991 Televising of Lok3U Sabha Proceedings [Shrimati Vasundhara Raje] MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Khurana, you must know that when I am on my legs, you cannot do that. If you do not conskjer the argued then that the ruling National Front ruling given by the Chair, how can I do It? I was putting pressure and was putting have called the fomner Speaker to speak personal Interest above the national interest. and you cannot disturb him like this, now, I wonder about this kind of dual policy. Shri RabI Ray. Because this is a very very serious matter concerning Rajasthan where two very major [Translation] terrorists are involved, I would like to know whether, with this kind of duality of poircy. SHRI RABI RAY (Kendrapada): Mr. Whether they will be able to cany out what Chairman. Sir, I woukJ like to raise an issue they profess. So. I would like your direction whteh Is not on^ of national but of international on this. Sir. importance. House has already expressed its unanimous opinion on the issue but it is [Translation] a matter of deep concern that Aung San Suu who is recipient of Nobel Peace Prize and a SHRi MADAN LAL KHURANA (South citizen of our neighbouring Country Burma Delhi): Mr. Chairman. Sir, I'tp&ve also given and who is likely to become Prime Minister a notice. What I want to say is that it has or Head of State after elections, is still appeared in the Indian Express and it is a languishing in jail. Through you. I would like very serious matter. I support whatever has to submit that Government had remained been said now. silent about her release till she was awarded [English] Nobel Prize but it is a matter of hapiness that now the Prime Minister has issued a statement pleading for her release. SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA (Pall): Ask the Home Minister to make a statement. Mr. Chairman, Sir, through you I would like to draw the attention of the House as well MR. CHAIRMAN: You cannot go on like as of the whole country^lo the fact that her this. husband Shri Michael Aris, a visiting {Interruptions) Professor in harvard University has issued a statement to the effect that he had not MR. CHAIRMAN: You are not allowed received any con-espondence from his wife to speak like this. Kindly take your seats. Shrimati Aung San Suu for the last sixteen Even in Zero Hourthere is a procedure to be months. I would like to know from the followed. Please resume your seats. Government whether Prime Minister considers it enough to issue a statement in {Interruptions) favour of her release? Countrymen have so far no knowledge about her release. Sir. you MR. CHAIRMAN:Pleasedon*tinterrupt. must be knowing that as to how the Army Junta Government has violated all human- {Interruptions) rights in Burma and though Aung San Suu’s party won the majority in the elections but MR. CHAIRMAN: You cannot t^lk like she was not allowed to come in power. We that. Kindly be seated when 1 am on my legs. all know as also the whole world that U.S. There is a procedure to be followed even Govemment Is supporting her. Even though during Zero Hour. The Speaker has already Aung San Suu |s being backed by U.S. laid downsome policy and you have to adopt Government even then military junta ft. Please t>e seated. You are not allowed to Government has not yet released her. dolikethat(< \ Mr. Chairman, Sir, we all know that {Interruptions) China is supporting Military Junta. Therefore, 345 AtmouneBmentbySpeakerfilSMHAyMiA 7.1913 (SAKA) Televbkig ofLokSAB Sabha nvceeOngs through you, I would like to appeal to the festivity in Tamil Nadu. Central Government to wake up from Its deepsiumtorandkeeping in view the cordial it is high time the Gkwemment of India relaQonsthatbothcountries had been having think In temre of increasing the rice quota to tor centuries, the Government, the people tide over the food problem in the State and the parliament of this country should caused by the floods. At least the take InRlative In Its own interest In seeking Gtovemment of India should maintain the the release of Aung ;San Suu so that present level of allocation of 81,000tonnes. democracy is once again restored there. It is a must If not at least increasing It. Therefore, I wouM liketosubmitto the Prime Through you, I would urge upon the Minister that he shoukJ not remain content Government to give an assurance to the just with issuing a statement seeking here people of Tamil Nadu that rice quota will not release but shouki use diptomatte: pressures be diminished and it should be increased. so that she may became Head of the State. It Is a matter of concern that a Nobel Prize MR. CHAIRMAN: Shree Sidnal. recipient is not being released. Our Govemment shouM take positive steps to {Interruptions) secure here release particularly at a time when the Prime Minister of China is to pay a SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY visit to this country in near future and China (Katwa); Kindly look to this side. is supporting the Military junta there. At this (Interruptions) Kindly alk>w me some time. juncture Prime Minister can take up this llnterrufAtons) issue with the Chinese Prime Minister so that both can demand her release. This is a MR. CHAIRMAN: You are going to question of intemattonal importance and the reduce the time. whole House is demanding her release. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: Sir, lEngKsfa it is a very important matter. We are saying that we have not raised this matter properiy SHRI K.V. THANGKABALU to create international opinion to secure the (Dharmapuri): Honourable Chairman, Sir, release of the Burmese leader who is In jail. this is a veiy serious matter affecting three Now It is really painful to see that. poorpeopie of Tan^l Nadu. Majority of people In Tamil Nadu get their rice through public MR. CHAIRMAN: You wffl get the time. distribution system. Unterruptkms)
The Central Government has now SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: No, communicated to the Tamil Nadu no. (Interruptions) What Is that? We have a Govemment its deciston to cut down the duty. We have a moral Responsibility. We Central rice quota from December, 1991 are a democracy. from the present level of 81,000 tonnes to 65,000 tonnes. At a time when more than 3 MR. CHAIRMAN: Who denies that, Mr. lakh hectares of standing paddy c n ^ have Saifuddin Choudhury? been washed away by therscentflobds, this cut in rice quota woukl seriously affect the SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY:That Is what you are going to do. poor and connmon man. MR. CHAIRMAN: We are calling in an The tiarvest festival Pongal is to be orderiy manner. celebrated in Tamil Nadu In January and w ^ no hanrest due to the ftoods and with SHRI SAIFl^DIN CHOUDHURY: You this cut in rice quota, there woukl be no aretakingothernHmersalso. {MmupUons) 347 Aim ounom w ai^ Speaker NOVEMBER 28,1991 Tele¥Mtg of Lok 346 S3bhB ProcGGdinos {^rtSaifuddlnChoudhury] SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: No. (IntenvpUon^ Let it continue. What it is coming out of that? [bitrnnpOons) MR. CHAIRMAN: Please stt down.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Salfuddln (Intem^ions) Choudhury, this is Zero Hour, it has also t)een regulated here. You know it. SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE: May I point out to you. Sir, that you are not SHRi SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: You bound by any list when you are on the Chair? are a wise man. You know that matter Is YoucanappiyyourdiscretkMi. {IntenupOon^ Important SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: You MR. CHAIRMAN: ido notknowwhether are the speaker now. [Intenuption^ i am wise or not. ' SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: I think. Sir, this {Intempttons) does merit yourkindattentionthough it is not on the schedule. A matter has been raised MR. CHAIRMAN: You see, this is by the f o ^ r Speaker, Shri Rabi Ray. It is arranged in an orderly manner. I am going an important matter on whteh the whole accordingly. House feels agitated. {Interruptions) Therefore, Mr. Somnath Chatterjee or Mr. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE Saifuddin Choudhury or I would like to (Bolpur): There are some issues on which all associate myself wtth the views expressed skies wish to respond. This is one of the by Shri Rabi Ray because a military junta issues, Sir. We want to support that. It has been there in spite of the fact that the should tie made known to the Government people have elected some representative. and to the people. (IntenufAions) This is a Andthey are indetention. If the whole House common issue. That is what I am saying. associates, thenthatwouM also have effect So, we wouM like to know the Governmenf s MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Chatterjee, in the stand. morning, you might have met the Hon'ble Speaker. Zero Hour is also accordingly MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Advani, what I regulated. He has ghren most of the names. suggested was this. Since I called another What I am calling here is according to his hon. member, lethimfinish. Idldnotsaythat judgment. I am not calling on my own. I am I will not give any chance. To that extent my only calling according to the order given. friend Mr. Saifuddin Choudhury Oould not {bitanupttons) have patience and that is the whole trouble. Now, when I have called him, let jiim finish. SI«ISAIFUDDINCHOUDHURY:Even I am also like you, a Member here for long. in the past. It had happened that even I knowthe mood of the House. Accordingly, names were not there. But on an important we will go ahead. issue, other Members are alknved. (Intempliohs) MR. CHAIRIMAN: That is true. SHRI S.B. SiimAL (Belgaum): Sir, It Is (tntem^Mons) leamt that the trade untonists will be gobig on strike tomomm because of the mis M R CHAIRMAN: Do you mean to say that those matters whksh are now detailed conceived kJea about the pubik: sector and here ar^'less important? its poUcy. Despite the darffkation ghmn by responsible persons of the Government of (kttUTUpttoo^ bKfla, it may not create any impact on the 349 Xnnoufwemsnf ty S^)ea>(eiAORAHAYANA 7,1913 {SAKA) Televtoktg ofLokSSO SablaProoeeiMttgs strike of the tiade unions caBed on all-india the matter remained shelved for ten kMig basis. This strMce is estimated to cause a years. It was again consktored in 1989-90. loss of Rs. 300Cfores. This ioss is too heavy I raised this issue again and again. The then for the country to afford at this juncture. I Railway Minister assured me that the survey request the hon. Speaiter to appeal, on was being conducted and theywere thinking behalf of the House, to the trade unionists to onposHlve lines. Thlsrailway lineisproposed call off the stiilce Immediately and come to to t>e laM down from Lalitpur to SIngraully in the negotiatton table to talk with the SIdhI district. I have heM talks with 0ie Government to save the heavy loss. concerned officials. Many assurances have (tntem^itions) been given both verbally and In writing but no survey has yet been started. [Trans/iatfon] Hon. Chairman, Sir, since both these SHRI MUMTAZ AISISARI (Kodarma): districtsfall under my constituency, therefore, Mr. Chairman, Sir, the international Trade on behalf of the people of my constituency, Fair, which is oiganized every year in Pragati I wouM like to draw the attention of the Maldan, has Its own importance. People Govemment to this problera Here I woukl from all parts of the country as also from the like to emphasis thatformer Railway Minister wortd visit the Fair. In Himachal Pradesh had given me assurances to the effect that Pavilion apple juice, the date of use of which the survey would be conducted and Rad explored was sokl as a result of which Govemment was thinking on positive lines people contracted various diseases and had about the project. Therefore, through you I to be hospitalised A complaint to this effect wouM like to inform the Govemment that we was lodged in the nearest polk»-statlon but woukido our besttoget budgetary allocattons It was disclaimed by the police authorities this year for Lalitpur-Singraully line even if that they had any information in this regard we have to resort to agttationforthispurpose. whereas a copy of the complaint was We will get this line at any cost. We woukf available with the complainant. This is very adopt do or die attitude. (InierrupOons) bad on the part of the Home Ministry. West Bengal has enacted a legislation to the SHRI PHOOL CHAND VARMA effect that if some food artksles are found to (Shajapur): Mr. Chairman, Sir, if a debate be contaminated the person responsible starts on this topte other matters will renain shall be liable to life-imprisonment. Similar undiscussed. WouM we g ^ any chance to law should be enacted here so as to speak? safeguard the life and property of the people. Otherwise, it wHI give a bad impression MR. CHAIRMAN: This is not a jdebate. about the country to the foreigners who win You please be seated. I have assured you get a negative i^ u re of this country. Our that you woukJ get an opportunity. Govemment is maintaining silence towards such an incfclents insoMng Intemationai [EngHst^ Trade Fair. I wouM liw to draw the attention of the whole country to such incidents. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY: I Govemment shouM take stringent actions think you for giving me time, and including against the poKce officers responsible for me, other Members also wUi be interested in showing laxity in this case and also ensure associating themselves wlththlsv6iy serious that the name of Intemationai Trade Fair Is matter that has been raised by hori. Shif not spoiled. Rabi Ray. Burma is a country in our neighbourhood and asademocratlccountry, KlA«ARi UMA BHARTI (Khajuraho): we are concerned that the elected Mr. Chakman, Sir, a survey was conducted mpresentah/es them, are given their due forlq^Lallpur-SingrauHiailwaylineduring power. The Military Junta usurped power the iBgbne of Janta Party in 1979-80. Then and the people's leader is In jail, suffering a 351 Announoement by Speaker NOVEMBER28,1991 TetavlsingjXLakSSZ SaUte PneoodhtQS tShil Saiffuddin Choudhury] of internal affairs. ttyouaHowmetosiqfM. It relates to the flagrant vtolqHon of human loL How can we help the people of Burma? rights and human rights have nofronUerB of It IB not a question of interfering in the affairs their own. It relates to the blatant negatkm of of another country, it has a got a universal the people's mandate and tt relates to the aspect. As a democratic country, we cannot denial of the bask: principle of parfiamentary remain slient when denucracy is being aBmocracy. butchered in another country. We can play a role in terms of creating an intemationai 13.00 hrs. opinion. We can also make thaintemationai community more active in really ensuring Therefore, Sir, it Is notthequestton of... that the Military Junta is defeated and the people are given back their power, in this MR. CHAIRMAN: We are notdiscussbig Sir.asaieadingcountryofdenrocracy, India the whole Issue. The hon. Member has has a big role to play. Though a statement suggested something and you can make has comefrom our Prime Minister, Ithink we some points only because other Members shouki really make ouroplnlon felt in a nwre also want to speak on this. vigorous way In the Intemattonal community and In other for a and ensure the people of SHRI CHITTA BASU: This Parfiament Burma get a democratto governance to certainly wants to uphokl the human rights, deckle their destiny the fundamental principles of pariiamentary democracy and the principle of peoples' ,SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV mandate. Therefore, Sir, it is an appropriate (Azamgarh): It Is natural that the House is case that this Parfiament expresses Its expressing Its concern. Out Govemment’s opinion and demands the release of Suukyi poltey has also been veiy well known that we and restoration of democracy In Burma by are in favour of a derpoei^toally elected allowing the elected representatives to House and we desire that the people's resume the Parilanl^nt. representatives shouMtoaltowedtofunction freely. I will suggest one thing. L«t the hon. [TranslaUorii Speaker call a meeting of the leaders of all political parties and let our House really SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Mr. express Its unaninraqsopintononthis. Since Chairman. Sir, i wouM Hke to associate the elected House Is ^ot being allowed to myself and m/ party with the sentiments function in Burma, it wHIbe goodlf an appeal expressed by the former Speaker In this fromthis House goesthere and it will certafaily House. Prime Minister has also .expressed have a greater weightage. This Is my his views In this regard. We are of the view suggestion and if the Govemment has no that if we convey our feelings by passing a ob]ectk>n, this can be the unanimous opinion resolutton in this House It wouM not be of this House. (Interruption^ conshJered interference Inthls intemataffalrB of any country. The Govemment has been SHRICHITTA BASU (Barasat): I think eleded there. Therefore, It is a questkin of the last year's Report of the External Affairs- Democracy and Human righlsandthe House Ministry of our Govemment has mentioned is unanimous on these pi^ts; I wouM llte to onlythedevetopments In Burma. It is not the submit that it wouM be agood indfeathMi. if questkin of interference in the Internal affairs we pass a resolutkm in tt)ls House. (rf any foreign country. As we do not want that t h ^ shouki be any interference from {E n g m any sources into Ourintemai affairs, naturally we also |do not want to interfere in the SHRIBHCX£NDRAJHA(MadhtA»ni): Internal srififairs of other countries. But Sir, S |r. I wouU Hke to associate my party, the theevents Bumnarenotmeretyaquestton Communist !>artyoflnda,wttithesentknents 353 6y ^ma«r«MQRAHAYANA 7.1913 (S4K4) T^evfaktg o/LokSS* SaU)a Proceedings expressed by my friend Shrl Rai>i Ray. Mrs. with the people of Burma as far as the Aiqnsaon S u u l^ father was along with situation in that country is concerned. But me in 1'940 at Ramgarh because before we must proceed with the caution twcause 1937 we were under the same rule. So, we we have a long twrder with Burma. We have have got that heritage also. Loitanaya Tiiait insurgency for so many years in the States wrote Gita Rahasya in Mandeiay Jail and bordering Burma. Bahadur Shah Zaffar was In prisoned there. We havegotaH these relations with them. In But as far as they are concern^ we addition, demociacy or the murder of it has must see that whatever actton we take we Itschain maction. We have always preferred shouM not partteipate actton which will democratic nile. So. wherever there is an damagethe nattonal interest {bttem^nOon^ assault on the democracy-whether we gain or lose we must stand fortt. You must, as the SHRi SUDHIR SAWANT: Are you presiding officer of the House today, take asking for a speclfte actton? the unanimous opinion of the House and this should be made iuiown to the countries of , SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Not the world. We want her release and action. restoration of the democratic rule in Burma. SHRi SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: SHRI MAI40RANJAN BHAKTA: Sir, I Dipiomatk: actton. fully endorse and associate myself with the hon. former Speaker of this House. He has SHRI SUDHIR SAWANT: As far as the raised a ve^ inportant issue. Sir, India has House and the people are concemed, we always expressed its solidarity for the agree that we must express our solkiarity. democratki people of the worid, wherever It But we shoukl not take any actton which may be and more so for the people of wouM precipitate and affect our nattonal Burma. Interest
Sir, I come from a place which is very MR. CHAIRMAN:JtwouM request the near to Burma. I wouki like to infomn the Parliamentary Affairs Minister to react to House that in recent days when many this. incidents had taken place wiwre the people of Burma weie repressed by the Burmese THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE military. Junta, Iknow how the Government MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS of India expressed its sympathies for these AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW. JUSTICE AND COkXPANYAFFAnS(SHRIRANQARAJAN Sir. that Is why I wouU Hke to request KUMARAMANGALAM); Mr. Ohaimran, Sir. that In these conditkms, the Government wedefiniteiy join b) the sentiments e>q)ressed and particuiaiiy the hon. Speaker shoukl by the whole House unaninmusly on the formulateaRasohilkMi and the entire House questton thata country which was really a can unaninwusly adopt It. It shoukl go to al part (rf us before independence, with urtiom over the worid flnt the-Indian people have we have ail fought, many of our sentor expressed thek- soUdarity for the peq>le of freedom fighters came from that country Burma for the resoratton of democracy in and to see that the elected representatives that country. are real^ not altowed to do their du^ in a democratic form is rather unfortunate. But SHRI SUDHn SAWANT (Rs^pur): I howexadiythe Resoiwtton shoukl bedradtod fuVy agree wlHi the hon. Members that the b) a unanimous form and whether It shoukl situation in Burma is of a very serious come from the Chair or whether It shoukl concern, lajsoagrsethat this Houseandthe come from the Government which is people of Indta should express soiMarlty something which we shoukl discuss. If ^AnnouncementbySpe^ NOVEMBER28.1991 te lemngotU^SSa SaMa Proceedings [ShriRangarajan Kumaramangalam] Supreme Court has also rejected the appeal of the management against it. Even then possible, in the Speakers' Chamber and we management is not following the orders of can definitely move a Resolution. I am sure the Supreme Court. the Leaders will agree, I would like to urge the Government to MR. CHAIRMAN: I think we will leave at give up its rigki attitude and accept the that. In the Speaker’s Chamber, the Leaders demands of the employees in Public interest of allthe Parties will assemble andthen draft so that the printing of notes may start again. a Resolution and the House can adopt It I would like the Govemment to take actton unanimously. against the management for violating the orders of the High Court and the Supreme {Interruptions) Court and the demands of the employees shouki be accepted immediately with a view SHRIMUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: to end the strike. My notice was tor a ditterent question. (Interruptions) I have given a notice for a [English] different question. {Interruptions) SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE [Translation] (Bolpur): An hon. ment>er from the Ruling Party has made certain observationb SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: regarding the strike whkdi is going to take (Shajapur); Mr. Chairman, Sir, through you, place tomorrow, industrial strike. And it has I woukj like to draw the attention of the been commented that It Is not in the national Government to a matter of urgent public interest. I want to make the position very importance. The printing of notes in Bank clear. Note Press, Dewas, Madhya Pradesh has been suspended frequently. During the last MR. CHAIRMAN: You want to say that month of September printing work rernained it is the national interest suspended tor twenty nine days as the employees went on strike. This press prints SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: It is the notes of higher denomination of Rs. 50/ in the national interest because the policy - Rs. 100/- and Rs. 500/-. In both the shifts against which this industrial strike has been about 2500 employees are worthing. called and Is going to be hekJ is against the interest of this country. There Is a total sell At present printing of notes has suffered out;thereisatotalsurrenderoftheeconomk 2 set back due to the strike restored to by the independence of the country to the supervisors w.e.f. 10.11.91. Only 15 lakh multinationals and the IMF. {Interruptions) notes are being printed daily instead of sixty lakh notes. At represent sale and purchase Unemployment is increasing; inflation of Soyabean and cotton is in full swing in is rising in this country. Factories have been Malwa region and a» a result of shortage of closed down. Stekness is increasing in big notes, bank-offidials and traders are industries. So far as prices are concemed, facing great difficulties. they are soaring. Nothing has taken place except this country's dignity has been I would like to know from Government mortgaged td the foreign countries and the the reason for not accepting the demands of IMF. the employees? Why are they forced to resort to strike again and again? Madhya I would appeal through you to the Pradesh High Court has ordered that Government that they shouki see reason overtime allowance be paid at double rates and change and withdraw this dangerous, under section 51 of Factories Act and anti people, anti-national policy so that the 357 Announcement by SpeakerAGRAHAYANA 7,1913 (SAM) Televising ofLok 358 Sabha Proceedings strike can be averted and the people of this SHRI RANGARAJAN country can at least have a little stake in the KUMARAMANGALAM; Mr.Chairman, lam country's future and the progress. What is sure, tomorrow, they would have again happening today? {Interruptions) another replay. (Interruptions)
MR. CHAIRMAN; You have taken more SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: We than one minute. must give effect to the voice of the people outside; we must express their views In this SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: The House. You are a minority Govemment; working class and the common people of don't forget that. You do not represent this country are under a serious challenge majority of people in this House. (Intenvption) and threat and they will fight and fight till the end until they are victorious. (Interruption) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE MR. CHAIRMAN; I will not allow you to DEVELOPMENT (DEPARTMENT OF convert this issue into a debate. Will you YOUTH AFFAIRS ANDSPORTSANDTHE kindly be seated? DEPARTMENT OF WOMEN AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT) (KUMARI MAMATA (Interruptions) BANERJEE): You ask them what they have done In Bengal. They have finished SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA; The everything. Now they want to finish the wori(lng-class does not want this strike. It is whole country. (Interruptions) a political strike; It is motivated by political parties; it Is to malign the Government. The SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE: wori^ing-class is not against this Industrial The prfces have gone up by 20 per cent. poltey; they do not want to go on strike; It is (Interruptions) This is what is happening in the political parties which want it; it is their India. You will agree that it is an insult to our manoeuvring; they want to take a political country and it is against that insult that we leverage out of it. (/nterrupf/ons) The Eastem are going on strike on the 29th. Europe have seen how the entire ecconomic system has been broken down because of (Interruptions) the sO’Cailed progressive policies? (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: Will you kindly listen?
MR. CHAIRMAN: This matter is also SHRI RANGARAJAN not going to be debated. Now the hon. KUMARAMANGALAM: Mr. Chairman, Sir, I Minister wants to react to It. am a little surprised that those who talk of democratic norms do not believe in allowing (Interruptions) free right of expression. I find that I have just now been strangled by loud voices of senior MR. CHAIRMAN; This is Zero Hour. At members on the other skie. This is a very One O' clock, we ought to have adjourned serious matter, the matter which has been the House for lunch, but we are continuing raised by Shri Somnath Chatterjee. I think it foranother matter which was brought before is necessary to draw the attention of the the House by the former Speaker. Therefore, House through you that when we came to every section of the House expressed its Government the economk: situation of the opinion. We have taken a decision also. Let country was dire. We had a situation where us not convert this issue to be a matter to be the balance of payments position was crltk^al. discussed by every section of the House. SHRI SRIKANTA JENA (Cuttack): That Now. the Minister is on his legs. Let us is because of the wrong polteles pursued for hear him whatever he wants to say. the last ten years. 359 A nnouncemmt by Speaker NOVEMBER 28.1991 Etodfon to CofflmttMJoM 360 Comm/ttee on Offices of Profit SHRI RANGARAJAN MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, Motion for KUMARAMANGALAM: I do not want to Election to Comntlttee. blame anyone at this moment, who was at fault and who is not at fault, statistics and (kiierruption^ history wHi speak of it But as at the moment, we have made it extremely dear, the Prime Minister has, and so has every otberMlnister concerned, that there is no attempt eltherto ELECTION TO COMMITTEE de-natlonalise the put>licsectororto privatise it. (kitem^tons) 13.19 hrs.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Please let him say Joint Committee on Offices of Profit whatever he wants to say. [Engum SHRI NIRMAL KANTICHATTERJEE; Today there is a report on ITDC. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA (Kamai): I beg to move: (Intem^ions)
MR. CHAIRMANa MR. CHAIRMAN: No running MR. CHAIRMAN: The questton is: commentary, please. That the members of this House do SHRI RANGARAJAN proceed to elect in the manner required KUMARAMANGALAM: All I am saying is. by sub-rule (3) of Rule254of the Rules that it is in the interest of the public sector, of Procedure and Conduct of Business it is in the interest of industry, in the interest in Lok Sabha, one member from of woikingdassesthat you do not encourage among themselves, to serve as a or support the proposed strike tomorrow, because the strike tomorrow will only memberof Joint CommitteeonOfftees strengthen the hands of those who are of Profit for the unexplrad portion of campaigningconsciousiyagainstthe working the term of the Committee vibe Shri classes and against the pubik: sector. If you C.K. Kuppuswamy resigned from the wartt to and if you are interested in ensuring Committee.’ effteiency, all that we are saying is that unviabie .units must be made viable. We are The rrwOon was adopted not saying that they shouM be closed down. (Interrufriions)