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Minutes - Isaf Classes Committee MINUTES - ISAF CLASSES COMMITTEE Met at 1030 – 1800 hours on Saturday 3 November 2007 at the Atlantic Room at the Palacio Estoril, Estoril, Portugal. Please refer to the ISAF website, www.sailing.org for the details of the submissions on this agenda. CONTENT 1. Minutes of the Previous Meeting 1 10. Regulation 18.3 – Additional World 2. Regulation 6 – Racing Rules Committee Championships 4 Membership 2 11. Regulation 18.2.1 – World 3. Regulation 18.16.5 – Notice of Race 2 Championship participation 4 4. Regulation 20 – Advertising Code 2 12. ISAF Ranking List 5 5. RegulationS - Definitions 3 13. Submissions Review 5 6. Equipment Rules of Sailing 3 14. Olympic Classes Sub-Committee 6 7. Class rules 3 15. Review of ISAF Classes 6 8. ISAF World Cup 4 16. Strategic Plan - Future issues for ISAF 9. Regulation 17.2.1 – ISAF Sailing World Classes Meeting 6 Championship 4 17. Any Other Business 8 Committee Jeff MARTIN (GBR) – Chairman (Laser Class) David BROOKES (AUS) David SPRAGUE (CAN) – Vice Chairman - Class Rules Rep. (Hobie 14,16,17,18, Tiger) (Lightning) Ceri WILLIAMS (GBR) Windsurfing Rep Richard HART (GBR) Equipment Control Rep Dina KOWALYSHYN (USA) Womens Rep Classes Representatives 6 Metre – Rees Martin Formula Experience Windsurfing 8 Metre - John Lammerts van Bueren - Marc Cardon 12 Metre - Dyer Jones Funboard - Bruno de Wannemaeker Int 14 - Colin Smith FJ Class - Peter Hinrichsen 29er - Melges 24 - Henri Samuel 49er - Malav Schroff Optimist - Helen Mary Wilkes 470 - Alberto Predieri RS:X – Rich Jeffries Cadet - William Suddell Sonar – Peter Galloway Contender - Martin Söderström Sunfish – Andres Jantana Europe - Jan Abrahamsen Snipe - Brainard Cooper Enterprise – Jonny Johnson Splash – Alexandre Paulino Farr 40 – Philip Tolhurst (In Part) Star – Claude Bonanni Finn - Corrine Rolland-Mckenzie Tempest – Michael Adams Fireball - Andrew Davis Tornado - Michael Grandfield Flying Dutchman – Stephen Perry Vaurien - Ugo Zappi Yngling - Mattais Dahlström Please refer to the ISAF Council minutes of 9-10 November 2007 on the ISAF website for the final council decision on all recommendations and opinions contained within these minutes. The final decision on all submissions is the ISAF Council. Where an ‘opinion’ to ‘reject’ or ‘approve’ is shown against a submission in the minutes this is only the opinion of the ISAF Classes Committee (ICC). The final decision by the ISAF Council may be different from the ICC after hearing the opinions of other committees. 1. MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING (a) Minutes The minutes of the lSAF Classes Committee meeting of 4 November 2006 (circulated and approved after the meeting) were noted. Page 1 of 8 Last updated: 21/01/2008 ISAF CLASSES COMMITTEE (CONT). (b) Minutes – matters arising There were no matters arising not otherwise covered on the agenda. 2. REGULATION 6 – RACING RULES COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP Submission 002-07 was noted from the Royal Spanish Sailing Federation proposing that membership of the Racing Rules Committee include a representative of the ISAF Classes Committee. Opinion: Approve 3. REGULATION 18.16.5 – NOTICE OF RACE Submission 006-07 was noted from the Chairman of the Racing Rules Committee Opinion: Approve 4. REGULATION 20 – ADVERTISING CODE (a) Submission 039-07 was noted from the International 49er Class Association regarding Class Association advertising. Philip Tolhurst spoke as Chairman of a working party on the advertising code. His working party were aiming to simplify the code. He requested any proposals be sent in by 1 st February in order that a paper can be prepared for the Mid-Year meeting. Bearing in mind the on-going review of the code, he proposed that submission 039-07 be deferred. Malav Shroff spoke on behalf of the submission. He noted that the 49er class association had secured a class sponsor and that the perceived concerns of conflicts with MNA sponsors was not in fact a problem, as he had only received three MNA complaints, two of which had been resolved by an email and one by a half hour meeting. Helen-Mary Wilkes felt that the Advertising Code was a mess, making it difficult to find a worldwide sponsor for a class. Stephen Parry proposed that the submission should apply to all classes and not just Olympic classes. Henri Samuel noted that class association advertising was a battle that was lost at the creation of the current advertising code. David Sprague noted that dinghies don’t have a big bow on which to display advertising, class advertising would help the sailors as a group to have better sailing. On a proposal by Malav Shroff, seconded by Helen–Mary Wilkes the submission as amended was unanimously approved with two abstentions. Opinion: Approve with the following amendment: Delete (ii) and (iii) and insert the following: "(ii) On 10% of the mainsail and/or 10% of the jib, but not combined on one sail." (b) There followed a further discussion about the advertising code. Philip Tolhurst raised some issues: Should 20-30 sailors at a class AGM be able to ‘hi-jack’ the sponsorship of a whole international class association? The percentage area measurement could cause problems. Some sailors don’t want to carry a lot of advertising on their boats. Malav Shroff felt that the class association AGM belonged to all the sailors and was self policing. The class needs money to pay for race officers etc. The Working Party were urged to maximise the money for the sport, space for Page 2 of 8 Last updated: 21/01/2008 ISAF CLASSES COMMITTEE (CONT). ISAF should be on every boat. 5. REGULATIONS - DEFINITIONS Submission 055-07 was noted from the Chairman of the Constitution Committee regarding kite-surfing and the definition of ‘boat’ and ‘class’. It was noted that definition of ‘boat’ in RRS includes the crew and in ERS does not include the crew. 6. EQUIPMENT RULES OF SAILING Submission 062-07 was noted from the Chairman of the Equipment Committee regarding amendments to the ERS for 2009-2012. Henri Samuel noted that boat length was an important item for class status requirements in the ISAF regulations and that C.6.4(a) should clarify whether the term includes transom hung rudders and the bowsprit extended. Peter Hinrichsen wanted to discuss F.2.3 spinnaker hoist height. Opinion: No Recommendation Refer to the Equipment Control Sub-Committee 7. CLASS RULES (a) 063-07 Equipment Rules of Sailing - Definition C3.1 and Title to C3 On a proposal by David Sprague, seconded by Heln Mary Wilkes the submission was rejected. Opinion: Reject Propose a working party with Dina Kowalyshyn as Chair to determine a workable solution to this issue (b) Submission 065-07 was noted from the Chairman of the Racing Rules Committee regarding Class Rules and Championship Rules. Michael Grandfield explained that the issue was to assure conditions of competition for ISAF ranked events. Class events were not a problem, the problem was when the class was not the organising authority. Henri Samuel was in favour of the submission and felt that the class rules should mention whether there are any class championship rules, and that class championship rules should not be regulated by ISAF. David Sprague was strongly against the submission and felt that the class rules define the culture of the class. It was concluded that the issue required further investigation. Opinion: Reject See submission 063-07 and 172-07 (c) Submission 066-07 was noted from the Chairman of the ISAF Classes Committee regarding Class Rule changes. Georg Tallberg, Chairman of the Class Rules Sub-Committee explained that he was refining a procedures document to help class associations with their rule change proposals. He noted that the Sub-Committee in the last year had Page 3 of 8 Last updated: 21/01/2008 ISAF CLASSES COMMITTEE (CONT). dealt with over 400 rule changes from 37 classes. Colin Smith felt that the submission proposal b) regarding ‘seriously disadvantaging a number of existing owners‘ was not neccessarily appropriate for a development class. Opinion: Approve with the following amendment In 26.10.4 delete the last sentence and replace with "Any such rejection shall be by majority vote" and delete part b. In 26.10.5 add "or earlier" to the end of the first sentence. Add a new part d to read as follows: " are technically not enforceable." Delete "shall transmit" from 26.10.6 and replace with "shall publish". 8. ISAF WORLD CUP Submission 036-07 from the Executive Committee was noted regarding withdrawing the concept of an ISAF World Cup of Sailing. It was noted that the Olympic Classes Sub Committee supported the submission. Opinion: Approve 9. REGULATION 17.2.1 – ISAF SAILING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP (a) Submission 123-07 was noted from the Executive Committee regarding holding the ISAF Sailing World Championship every two years. Opinion: Approve Subject to concerns over the following issues being clarified: a, quality of venues b, the quality of organisation c, the class funding and finances d, Star Class qualification issues e, the opportunity for smaller venues to host championship events (b) Submission 126-07 was noted from Fédération Française de Voile regarding holding the ISAF Sailing World Championship every two years. Opinion: Approve 10. REGULATION 18.3 – ADDITIONAL WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS Submission 130-07 was noted from the International 470 Class regarding a women’s youth world championship title. Opinion: Approve 11. REGULATION 18.2.1 – WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP PARTICIPATION Submission 131-07 was noted from the International Formula Windsurfing Class regarding minimum participation requirements for windsurfing. Opinion: Approve Page 4 of 8 Last updated: 21/01/2008 ISAF CLASSES COMMITTEE (CONT). 12. ISAF RANKING LIST Submission 132-07 was noted from the Chairman of the ISAF Classes Committee regarding amending the ISAF Ranking List.
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