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No. 131.— Wednesday, April 17, 1974- ''Chain a 27, (Sakai)
Oral Answers to Questions: Columns
'Starred Questions Nos. 711,713 to 715 and 717 .... 1— 27
Short Notice Question No. 9 ...... 27— 34 Written Answers to Questions:
Starred Questions Nos. 709, 712, 716 and 718 to 729 . . 34—46
Unstaned Questions Nos. 6969 to 6972,6974 to 70x4, 7016 to 7050, 7052 to 7058, 7060 to 7091, 7093 to 7100, 7102 to 7123 and 7125 to 7136 ...... 46— 182
Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance— Reported abrupt stopping of air-conditioning Plant at Delhi Airport 182— 94
Question of Privilege—
Alleged Misleading information given by the Minister . 194— 215
Papers Laid on the T a b l e ...... 215— 16
Arrest of Members ...... 216— 17
(Sarvashri Aral Bihari Vajpayee and Bharat Singh Chowhan)
Public Accounts Committee-
Hundred and Twenty-third and Hundred and Fourteenth Reports .
Statement Re. Situation in Bihar and Gujarat .... 117— 18
Shri Uma Shankar D i k s h i t ...... 218— 23
Matters Under Rule 3 7 7 ...... 218— 20
(*) Reported permission to General Motor Company ol USA to take ovor one-third of Equity shares of Hindustan Motors . . 223— 37
(it) Alleged Racket in Text Books Export .... 223— 35
Demands for Grants, 1974 *75— 235— 37 Ministry of Petroleum and C h e m i c a l s ...... 237— 325
Shri Biren Dutta - ...... 239— 46
•The sign-f marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. ■(H)
Columns
Shri Raja K u l k a r n i ...... 246— 55
Shri Biswanarayan S h a s t r i ...... 255— 60
Shri D. D. D e sa i...... 260—66
Dr. Laxminarain P a n d e y a ...... 266— 78
Shri Gcnda S i n g h ...... 278— 81
Shri E. R. K r is h n a n ...... 281— 89
Shri Shivnath S i n g h ...... 289— 97
Shri K. S. C h a v d a ...... 298— 303
Dr. K a ila s ...... 393— 10
Shri D. N. T i w a r y ...... 310— 16
Shri Hukam Chand Kaehwai...... 316— 20
Shri Nawal Kishorc Sharma...... 320— 25
Business Advisory Committee—
Forty-lirst R e p o r t ...... 326
Half-an-liour Discussion—
Forged Car Permit C a s e ...... 326— 54
Shri Jyotirmoy B o s u ...... 326—32
Shri T. A. P a i ...... 336- 54 LOK SABHA DEBATES i 2 LOK SABHA (b) Government do not have any information of “volunteers” being sent Wednesday, April 17, 1974 /Chaitra 27, from Meghalaya to occupy such 1898 (Saka) villages in Assam.
The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the (c) Government of India are Clock. maintaining continuous contact with the State Governments of Assam and Meghalaya who are taking necessary [Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair] measures for maintaining peace and ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS order. The Chief Minister of Assam has also given an assurance for the Dispute over Ownership of Border protection of the rights of linguistic Villages between Assam minorities in Assam. and Maghalaya *711 SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I am Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS rather surprised at the reply given be pleased to state; because the newspapers even today and yesterday carried headlines: (a) whether some border villages “Border dispute: Meghalaya- Assam have become a matter of disputed police face to face at Longpih.” I ownership between the Governments have no time to read out all the things of Meghalaya and Assam; which have appeared. It saya the place I mentioned is a border village (b) whether some “volunteers” were and it is evidently being disputed by recently sent from Meghalaya to occu both the State Governments in so far py Garo-populated villages in the as both had sent their police forces to Goalpara and Darrang Districts of the same area. I should like to know Assam; and this. May I know whether the Megha laya Government directly or through (c) the Government of India’s the Garo National Council with the efforts, if any, to normalise the situa tacit connivance of the Meghalaya tion? Government is demanding transfer THE MINISTER OF HOME from Assam to Meghalaya of an area AFFAIRS (SHRI UMA SHANKAR comprising 762 sq. miles in which 318 DIKSHIT): (a) The boundaries of villages are involved with a Garo the two States Assam and Megha population as claimed by them of laya, have been determined by Par 85,000 and odd. It is in the Goalpara- liament in the North-Eastern Areas Kamrup d istils of Assam. Is the (Reorganisation) Act, 1971. While hon. Minister aware that since Janu there has not been any dispute over ary there have been a number of ownership of border villages between clashes in this prea, demonstrations, the Governments of Meghalaya and arrests and even police firings, lead Assam, demands have been made by ing to deaths and so on? Is it also a Garos of Kamrup and Goalpara Dis fact that the immediate provocation tricts of Assam and Garo National for this is the introduction of Assamese Zonal Council of Action, Assam for as the medium of education in the transfer of Garo-inhabited villages schools in those areas which are inha from Assam to Meghalaya. bited by Garos and other tribal 358 LS— 1 3 Oral Answers AiPtRIL 17, 1974 Oral Answers people? K <30, Sir, 1 would like to ment can see to it that the Assam know, in view of the fact that 1 Government gives certain assurances gather that Assam has got similar, to the linguistic minorities. But, I what one might call, bounisiy want to -tfraw his attention to another putes with Mizoram, Nagaland and news-item, appearing in the ‘Hindustan Arunachal Pradesh also, and in view Times' of 31s March, where it is said: of the sensitive nature of this area, ‘The inherent contradiction implied in whether the Central Government is the concept of common Governor is going to take any initiative to see that responsible lor complicating the pro a peaceful settlement is brought about blem’. 1 woulfl like to know from through discussions between both the him, though What be has said is tech Governments under the auspices of nically correct that boundaries have the Centre? been fixed and settled, whether fee is SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: aware of the fact that the Governor, Sir, I am not in a position to say who is the same person, Governor of whether Meghalaya has instigated or Assam and Governor of Meghalaya is encouraged any sections of the Garo making diametrically opposite and people in Assam to agitate for a contradictory statements in his merger of certain areas. The number addresses to the two Assemblies, which of villages mentioned by him is is a strange thing. Inaugurating the correct. But, as I said, this matter Budget Session of the Assam Assem has been raised and the Garo National bly, the Governor said: Zonal Council have taken a stand and “Although demands had been they are pursuing this matter. But, raised from time to time for inclu Sir, I also agree with him that there sion in Meghalaya of some strips of is need for action and we should not area near the border of the Kamrup aUow this emotional situation to and Golpara districts and Biloeks 1 escalate by making it worse. The and 2 of the Mikir Hills district, my difficulty is, Sir, there is no such Government consider that in the compact area contiguous to Meghalaya light of clear and unambiguous and £hk question has been considered decision of competent authorities in more than once in depth and it was the past, there i® basically no scope concluded on merits that such a trans for any transfer in tbaft regard.*’ fer would create more complications than solve any problem. More lingu The same Governor, in his address to istic minorities would be created the Meghalaya Assembly, says: by transfer, along with Assamese- speaking, Bengali-speaking. Hindi “The border between Assam and speaking, Garo-speaking and other Meghalaya and certain sectors has people. Therefore, it is not as if it is been a subject of controversy. The a simple legitimate demand which border in the Jaintia and Mikir can straightway be accepted and that Hills sector is the scene of continual Government is being unnecessarily tension over the years and a settle unreasonable about it. It is a compli ment regarding Blocks 1 and 2 of cated problem. Emotionally, it is the Mikir Hills district is still to be correct to say that Garos are agitated arrived at”. and I think this matter does require special attention and I think we shall I would like to know from him, whe try and see what can be done about ther the complications to which he it to diffuse the situation. referred, are not being aggravated by this kind of double game that the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: If it is same personality, who is the Governor really a question of agitation against in both the cases, is playing? This the introduction of Assamese in these area has strategic importance and the schools, I presume, Central Govern* security of our country is also depen 5 Oral Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 OSAKA) Oral Answers dent on it. We know that in this any way, directly or indirectly, con area, there are attempts by certain nected with it, or has been aggravated anti-Indian forces and separatist by it. forces, who always try to foment dis cord, to bring about clashes between Coming to the second question, it different communities. During the can hardly be denied that historically unfortunate language disturbances in there ha® been a tendency on the port Assam in fact some members of the of some of the foreign powers to see ruling party had publicly stated that that the border does not completely the hand of the CIA was behind it settle down or get stabilised. There and all that kind of thing. I would have been forces at work. So, con like to know whether he is aware that stant vigilance has been exercised to an American organisation which is see that those forces do not get the well known, MRA, Moral Re-arma- upper hand. It is well-known that ment, which is also supposed to be one of the members of the Govern linked with CIA, hag a very strong ment does belong to the MRA. base in Meghalaya and one of the The other information which the leading Ministers of the Meghalaya hon. Member has given is also not Government is a full-time member denied that whenever a particular and organiser of the MRA. If so, is person belonging to the CIA visits there not a ground for apprehending some place, there are reports of cer that there is a deliberate conspiracy tain incidents immediately after his going on to create trouble in this visit. I am not willing to attribute to border area? May I also remind the the person such extraordinary powers hon. Minister in this connection with that a short visit by him would create your permission that only a month or or bring about such extraordinary so ago there were complaints voiced results. So far as the need for vigil on the floor of the Assam Assembly ance, alertness for preventing any that a party of officials of the US such activity creating more complica Consulate in Calcutta, led by the tions in the border areas is concerned, famous or notorious Mr. Peter Bur it is fully realised and every possible leigh, visited Assam and the Assam effort is being made to guard against Government had objected to this. It such activities. reminded the Centre that on a pre Regarding the question about the vious occasion they had told the Centre common Governor, although the Gov that ouch people should not be per ernor was the same, he was not acting mitted to visit that area without in his own personal capacity. Nor informing the Assam Government in was he discharging his special respon advance and yet they have not been sibility. In one case he acted on the informed in this case. In view of all advice of the Chief Minister of Assam this, may I know whether the Centre and in the other case he acted on the is specially alive to the danger of advice of the Chief Minister of Megha these activities in this area and, if so, laya. what do they propose to do in order to check thiB? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Is this a desirable role to be played by the SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: Governor in the same area? So far as the question of Assamese SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: language in schools is concerned, the I cannot express an opinion "before matter hag been involved in some going into the matter in detail. controversy. Various experiments have been made. Regarding the SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: question of the language being taught, The Governors are also the agents of ag suggested by the hon. Member, I the President. What was the directive shall go into the question shortly and given by the Central Government to «ee whether the present agitation is in the Governor in this matter? 7 Oral Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Oral Answers $
SHRI DINESH CHANDRA and if he can suggest any special GOSWAMI; I come from an &rea measures, we shall consider those which is involved in this. I am measures also. At present our posi deeply distressed about it and 1 want tion is that we do not want to encour that the situation should be norma* age such fissiparous tendencies. We hsed. Taking the last point made by want to help both the State Govern the hon. Home Minister, I want to ments not to take measures which draw hi* attention to the fact that the would create further antagonism, position of the Governor has come into either on linguistic or other grounds. complete discredit in the entire region My own belief is that the present agi because of his contradictory state tation is due to same measure of dis ments, because a lay man is not sup content over the treatment that the posed to know the constitutional pro Garo people might be receiving in vision by which a Governor may make some area or the other. If these a completely contradictory statement grounds of discontent are removed, I in different Assemblies. Then, I personally believe that such agitation want to know from the hon. Minister, need not continue. firstly, in view of the fact that if this type of disputes are allowed to conti MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The nue, not only would it open a Pan question was whether you are not dora’s box, but it would also give a aware of any reply being sent or no handle to the external and internal reply has been sent? forces of disruption, what steps do the SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: Government propose to take to settle I am not aware of it. this problem. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If you Then, I have come to know that the are not aware, would you kindly look Government of India have sent some into this? reply to the Garo National Council SHRI DINESH CHANDRA regarding their demand. Will he GOSWAMI; Is he proposing to bring kindly tell us the essence or contents about changes in the Constitution to of that reply? confer the benefits of the Scheduled Then, one of the grievances of the Tribes on the Garo people of Assam? Garo people is that while in Megha SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: laya they are treated as Scheduled We have not taken any decision on it: Tribes under the constitutional pro but we will consider. vision, in Assam they are treated as SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: “other backward classes” even though How are we to take the statement of the Assam Government have confer the hon. Minister seriously that the red all the benefits of the Scheduled Government does not want the situa Tribes to them. Do the Government tion to escalate when a memorandum propose to make suitable legislative submitted to the Prime Minister in changes and amendments in the Con December 1972 was shoved under the stitution to confer the benefits of the carpet and remains unattended to so Scheduled Tribes to these people in far? Was it due to the fact that the Assam to remove the constitutional Central Government thought that the anomalies? 'Government of Meghalaya was trying SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: through various devices to divert at I am not aware of the text of the tention of the people from its reply which the hon. Member says mismanagement and misrule. How was issued. So far as the information ever, why is it that the Government of available to me at the moment goes, India has not attended to that memo there is no such mention. As far as randum so long? I am not going into the need for action to stabilise the the question whether that memorandum situation is concerned. I am entirely or that impression is right or wrong- in agreement with the hon. Member, In any case is it not the duty cast on 9 Oral Answers CHAITRA 27, 18»6 (SAKA) Oral Answers the Government of India to take ex Assam was sent or was face to face peditious steps so that such situations with the police force of Meghalaya, as do not develop into something serious? reported yesterday. So, this contra Do they contemplate having a machi dicts the earlier report. Sometime nery for the settlement of inter-State back there was a report of a demons disputes which will go into action im tration by some so-called ‘volunteers, mediately after the eruption of any about 1.500 ‘Garo tribes from the trouble? border areas of Assam. According to SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: the Meghalaya Government report, When, the decision is taken, all the these people had evacuated from the relevant considerations are taken into Garo Hills to Meghalaya. In that account. The main stand of the Gov demonstration there was firing and ernment of India is that it does not one person was killed. The dead body propose to make any changes, so far of that person was not claimed by as the question which has been raised anybody. If the demonstration was by the other hon. Member is con an uprising of the Garo people living cerned. in Assam, obviously the dead body SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: would have been claimcd by the Why did you not take any action on people living in Assam. I want to the memorandum? know whether it is not a fact that thfo SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: dead body was not claimed? This If xt is not intended to change that gives suspicion that he was from out policy, no action can be taken except side I want to know to what extent to stick to the policy already under is there encouragement, may be as a diversionary tactics, from the Megha taken. laya side? SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: My other question remains unanswer Coming to the Governor, why ed. should the Governor not play a con ciliatory role and bring about a settle MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ment, instead of making contradictory main question of Shri Mishra is. whe statement i in his so-called constitu ther you have made any assessment, tional capacity of being two persons or you are going to make any assess in one body? Why should he not do ment, that all these developments are it? Why should he not settle it? Why the result of the efforts of the Gov should he not allow things to settle ernment of Meghalaya to divert atten themselves? Were the Government of tion from its own mismanagement of India informed of these developments? the affairs of the State. What step were taken earlier to prevent the eruption of this trouble? SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: That is an expression of opinion on SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: the action of the Government of In the information and reports that Meghalaya. are sent by the Governor from time to time the developments regarding MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Will he the Garo People’s demands have been Icindly make an assessment of that? communicated to the Government. SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: The hon. Member s*id that he is sur I am unable to express an opinion on prised that the Governor is not able their intention. to settle the matter. It is not quite so easy a matter that the Governor SHRI VASANT SATHE: Today has merely to take a decision and morning there was a report in the solve it. It is a complicated matter TPatriot' saying that the Deputy Com where emotions are involved. So far missioner and Superintendent of as the factual information which the Police of Kamrup District has denied hon. Member has asked for is con the report that aily police force from cerned, I require notice. Oral Atuwtn APRIL 17, 1974 Orel Answer!
SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Belora the for several areas are justified or these situation takes an ugly turn to the are simply to cover up the defects and extent that the Indian people belong defaults of the Government of ing to two States fight each other Meghalaya, whether in league with the armed constabulary of the two CIA or MRA. I want to know whether states, are being engaged in such con a committee of inquiry will be set flicts) will the Government immediate* up and asked to submit its report as ly set up a high-power tribunal and early as possible. say that the decision of that high- power tribunal will be final in respect SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: of such disputed areas? Not a Committee, but we would like SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: to hold an inquiry to find out the It is not proposed to appoint any Tri facts to enable us to take suitable bunal as suggested by the hon. mem action. ber, but the Government of India SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY: will go into this question seriously What about relief camps started by and see to it that the situation is not the Garo National Council? allowed to deteriorate. SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: SHRI SAMAR GUHA: If you can I am not aware of it. make both the States agree to the decision of an impartial tribunal, then SHRI BIREN DUTTA: May I know the matter can be settled. Why do you what prevents the Government of not agree to setting up a tribunal? India from including the Garo peo ple in the list of Scheduled Tribes? SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY: It has become very much clear that the SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: border dispute between the bounda It has to be considered. We have not ries of Assam and Meghalaya has been gone into that. escalated to such an extent that it SHRI BIREN DUTTA: May I know needs the Government of India’s from the hon. Minister whether the urgent and immediate attention, and Meghalaya Government has brought the hon. Minister hag also said it. I to the notice of the Central Govern would like to know from him whether ment the existence of any border dis he has any information that relief pute, and if so, what are the areas of camps in the name of ousted Garo peo dispute; and also whether the contra ple of the Assam border have already dictory role that has been played by been started within the Meghalaya the Government, instead of creating Garo Hills, whether he has also this a congenial atmosphere for settling the information that, to finance those re matter between the two Governments lief camps, the people inside Megha has created, more complications; and laya and others also have been pres in view of Central Government being surized to donate liberally by the informed of the day-to-day develop Meghalaya Government, whether he ments by the Governor, what advice has also this information that, in the has been given by the Central Gov name of disturbances, political and ernment to the Governor about the otherwise, and also language role to be played in settling the mat disturbances, within the border ter? region erf Assam, Meghalaya Gov ernment has instigated some of SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT: of the people to come over, knowing I have aleady stated that the two full well that these matters should Governments have not taken up this be dealt with by the Government of matter with us. No demand or Assam. In view of all these, mav 1 counter-demand has been made. As know whether the hon. Minister will I have stated, the Garo National set up a Committee of inquity to go Zonal Council has raised this issue and into aH the details, whether the claims a certain agitatidft has come up. I made by the Meghalaya Government have! already mad* the position of the 13 Oral Answers GHAITRA 27, 1896P (SAKA) Orml Answers
Government of India clear in this (a) whether Government have set matter. up Telecomunication Training Centres SHRI TAKUN GOGOI; What advice in the country; has the Central Government given to (b) if so, the number pf the persons the Governor about the role to be authorised to receive training at the played in settling the matter? Centres; and j MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We have (c) whether such a Centre would taken half an hour for this question. be set up in Uttar Pradesh? We should not take more than this. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Members have asked many pointed, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS relevant and legitimate questions and (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. the Minister has stated many times that he would require notice. He also (b) 38 centres with a maximum said—it is on record—that he would capacity to train about 13.,000 persons hold an inquiry into all these matters. per annum. I hope the! inquiry he will hold will (c) A Circle Telecom. Training Cen into all the questions the Members go tre at Lucknow, a District Training have asked and it is advisable that Centre at Kanpur and a Regional the report comes before the House Telecom. Training Centre at Meerut after that inquiry. are already functioning. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: It should come before the end of the session. mfWt w w : fswFfV MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: As quick ly as possible, because things are ^Pcrfoftret i f f M i % building up in that area. These may «pt m x be straws before the tornado. We gsr | * $ w % »ft*f5r€V should not take them lightly. m i $ $ i SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: In that case, the Governor should be changed *$ fcT % 38 in die meantime. VPfir *r 13,00© sffrT MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Every WRIWT I JRTFT- thing that has been raised will be in f fr quired into . fto tit mt v* SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: He is qrnr anrf % t e n % fo r- adding fuel to the fire'. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Burman. t, * ^ % 3s mqwreri SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY *?r | fm f fwjr rose. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have # w w wren £ ? called the next question. cftaft srrar $ *n? Shri Burman—absent ^ rt g fo r Shrimati Savitri Shyara. ft *n$t «w w i itosw Telecommunication training centres *r sfa tit siprwr ft *rr ^ ? in the Country *713. SHRIMATI SAVITRI Slto 3TT : oTTW^r SHYAM: fv m x <$t 3i§?r f*rr ft SHRI ARVIND M. PATEL: vr vfffa f^Pfr %5T Will the Minister of COMMUNI CATIONS be pleased to state: ju t s s *r«rar is Oral Answers APRIL 17. 1974 Oral Answers 16 fr fcr fr 16 ^ sit® ftof •* Wnsrt <*n*r %
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SANJEEVI RAO: India concerned States for integrated deve is in a fortunate position to plan, lopment of tribal areas during the manufacture, instal and maintain all Fifth Plan. types of telecommunication equip ments including the micro-wave SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: In the equipments. According to the UN re Approach Paper to the Fifth Plan, it port, the African and Middle-east is stated that the Government has countries require as much as 3 billion proposed Rs. 500 crores for the back dollars worth of equipments and we ward sector. But in the repoit here in India have made a mark in those only Rs. 255 crores are allocated for countries and even the countries like the backward sector. In the Central Uganda have requested for our tele sector the amount is Rs. 39.19 crores communication engineers. With this in the Fourth Plan whereas in the background, may I know from the Fifth Plan it is Rs. 32 crores only. Minister whether he is taking ade We find that in every year and in quate steps to increase the number of every plan the allocation is decreasing. training centres of tele-communica The Central Sector and thr, State Se tions? ctor are the two sectors. The Central sector is for nationwide programme PROF. SHER SINGH: 1 have al and the State sector is for the local ready made it clear that we are in needs. I would iike to know from the creasing the tele-communication hon. Minister whether increased allo centres and we are exporting these cation will be made for the develop equipments to other countries, espe ment of tribal areas in the Fifth Plan, cially, to the middle east countries keeping in view the needs of this ,etc. sector? SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA* I Tribal Welfare Departments have given the figures. The figures of Es. 39.19 crores in the Fomlh Plan as *714. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMAN- against a smaller figure of Rs. 32 SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO' My In addition, an amount of Rs. 200,00 second question is this. The new ..crores is likely to be allocated to the strategy adopted by the Government 19 Oral Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Oral Answers of India is to convert the Tribal Deve lopment Stock into an Integrated % W FT % f^T fw r 3TRTT | development agency In the Fifth Five srt r m swtf: *rt *($ Year Flan. Not only that, there sre t t 3% ? ? mr Tribal Development Agencies and Centrally Sponsored schemes for the ^ f fa *r«r % «*rt «r# tribal development. The Minister said f w m m i fam ? that in addition Rs. 200 crores will be allocated for the integrated develop ment of tribal areas. Tn the Fifth xrn fa r m fare? : ?fr > Plan a new strategy is envisaged to WK | fa TTJqr 3cT*ft prepare sub-plans for the tribal areas and also special schemes for the tribal £?fi vk wfmi £ areas. My question is: Is Rs. 200 crores '3?«rR % fsRTJft fa ^ n fr *m nr a separate allocation from the sub-plan ^ ^ sfft 3ft TfStr etc. or is it the only allocation for the integrated development of tribal vr | ?r if areas? 3T§T 34 ^ ir *?r *rr m r m i % 74 faqrr | i SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: Tribal Development Blocks are being continued only for the present ^ *TH^*5ET fa w year. And from next year, we en visage to adopt a new plan strategy STCn t fa qfffi ir fasjtf f ^pfr qT W*ff of area development and, for that ^ m>&r purpose, various schemes are being % WftT WdT g I formulated. The Thrust in the Fifth Plan would be that major sources should come from the normal budget and certainly the programmes for de SHRI D. BASUMATARI: la it a velopment of tribal areas wilt get fact that the plan formulates the de more than adequate support from the velopment of scheduled castes and general plan as a whole and, whatever scheduled tribes in various ways? As figure* I have given are only of a regards tribal development blocks, supplemental nature, in reply to Shri Gomango, the Minister said that the tribal development block will be continued for one year only. 1 wtare m t t o n : *p- want to boring to the notice of the Min ister and of Parliament also that in the srrfr ^ srnr «ft w rr srrfcwf name of tribal development blocks, sftr; w n ftw ff % sfa money is allocated in a general sector. ftoro * fatr t r m s s In the name of tribal development blocks, only the other people not tri- bals—are benefited. Only 25 per cent snr «rT*ff f i fa of the amount is spent for the tribal f t w t stsnrr ir 20 fsnr peoples’ benefit in the matter of provi sion of water supply, education, etc. arNrt $ fsrasfr % farr 5 ^ etc. A question was posed to the Min w r ife n 3 * * SHRI HAM NIWAS MptRDHA: One on the table of the House. [Placed of the Criteria for starting a tribal in Library See No. LT-6719/74] block is that the area should have tribal population of at least 66 per SHRI SAMAIR GUHA: It is known cent. To say that only 25 per cent to all that the two categories of peo or lesser portion is used for tribal ple joined INA, one, who were regular areas is not correct. There are various army personnel in the British Army ways to check whether the funds are and the other from the civilians who spent properly or not and if any lived in South East Asia. These civil specific cases are pointed out we will ians can be divided in three cate look into them. gories—regular army, the administra tion and the secret service. It is also Grant of freedom fighters’ pension to known that is response to the claripn Ex-I.N.A. personnel recruited from call given by Netaji when he said civilians “Sacrifice everything and become Fakirs” thousands of civilians in South *715. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will East Asia gave up their job, donated the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be their propetries to Azad Hind Govern ment and allowed themselves to be pleased to state; recruited in INA. Whether it is a (a) whether I.N.A. personnel recruit fact that the majority of the army per ed from the Civilians have been given sonnel of the third Division of INA freedom fighters’ pensions; were recruited mostly from the civi lians? If ig it so, whether it is also (b) if so, the number of applica a fact that tiheee INA personnel which tions received and the number of per constituted the third army underwent sons who have recieved such pensions severe torture in the detention camps so far; and under-carpet bombings and also when Japan retreated it was these (c) whether the personnel of the INA people who saved the life and “Rani of Jhansi” unit and the mem security of Indians in the whole of bers of Indian Independence League* South East Asia? The one criteria laid have received pensions; and down is: (d) the guiding principles outlined “A person whose property was for considering the desirability of confiscated or attached and sold due granting pensions to the applicants to participation in the freedom from the INA personnel recuited from struggle.” civilians? There is another criteria: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND “A person who lost his job. civil IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON or military or means of livelihood NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIBDHA): for participation in National Move (a) Yes, Sir, on fulfilment of condi ments.” tions of eligibility. I want to know whether in the l&bt (b) 9036 applications have been re of these two rules the Government ceived from such (persons and 917 will consider the eligibility for pension have been approved for grant of pen of those civilians who joined INA in sion. ' j if) the regular army or the administra (c) Yes, Sir, on fulfilment of condi tion or the secret service? tions of eligibility. SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: It is (d) A copy of the Scheme indicat true that the problem of exvdvilians ing the conditions of eligibility is laid who joined INA is somewhat compli 33 Orel Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Oral Answers 24 cated. According to the present cri M.P. is a member. I do not think INA teria some of these cases would not movement should be divided into be covered. To look into all these civilians and non-civilians. As the things we have appointed a committee Committee is a very high-powered one, under the Chairmanship of Shri Shah- I think, we can leave it to them to ixawaz Khan who will go into the make recommendations. matter and recommend as to what need be done. The Committee has 1 SHRI SAMAR GUHA; Regarding issued a questionnaire to the ex-INA civilians in which they have asked for those who joined from the regular army there is no difficulty for the do certain information like nationality, cuments but for those who joined from date of joining INA, rank, areas of civilian side there is difficulty for do operation, name °* the company, etc. cuments. I say all of them should be This questionnaire has been circulated considered. and when their reply is received the Committee will look into it and make recommendations. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: This is a suggestion. This may be considered. SHRI SAMAR GUHA; The difficulty for ex-civilians is that they are not SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE: Apart from able to produce certificates of tlheir the Minister referring to cases of for division or army rank. The documents mer members of the Azad Hind Gov were either destroyed, confiscated or ernment to the Shahnwaz Khan Com denied by the British Government. I mittee could not the House have an want to know from the Government assurance here and now i’n so far as whether the All India INA Committee people like Shri Anand Mohan Saha of which Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and Deb Nath Das are concerned—who was the Chairman and then Shri Lai are very well known to the Treasury Bahadur Shastri was the Chairman Benches also—that grant would be and now Prime Minister, Smt. Indira made to them irrespective of a refer Gandhi is the Chairman whether any ence to the Shahnawaz Khan Corr.mit- certificates issued from that INA Com tee? mittee or from any of the living Minis ters of the Provisional Azad Hind SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: I Government or any other civilian offi would hot like to say anything right cers will be entertained as valid do now but certainly eminent persons as cuments? Also whether men like sociated with INA movement would Anand Mohan Saha and Deb Nath Das get due consideration. will be included in that Committee. Shri Shalhnawaz Khan was in the re SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Is the Gov gular army. Nobody from the Indian ernment aware of the great revolu Independence League Has been inclu tionary role played by the great BIN ded. At least from the civilian side mutineers? I would like to know whe persons like Anand Mohan Saha should ther they will also be regarded as free be included in that Committee. dom fighters and given same consi deration? SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: It is ■true there is difficulty in getting docu SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: The ments. But, I think; the hon. Member Prime Minister has already decided and the House would appreciate that to treat them on par with other free there has to be some satisfaction for dom fighters. tihe Committee before they recommend. I think the Committee is a very high- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; He says powered one. Shri Shahnawaz Khan that Government have decided to do jls the Chairman and Shri Mohan Singh, that. 25 Oral Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26 intensive indastxialiaaUaa to G a jm t need to make good the shortfall and in Fifth Flan the employment problems that had resulted recently in unrest in the •717. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the State? Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: As I have (a) whether Gujarat is to have ra stated earlier, wherever we can pro pid and intensive industrialisation in duce more crude oil in the country, Fifth Plan; naturally to that extent some adjust (b) if so, the total amount earmar ment will have to be made, and it is ked for the exploitation of minerals in the context of the present oil crisis and setting up of industries; and that we are considering all these mat ters and to that extent this suggestion (c) how much has been earmarked will be taken into consideration. for the village and handloom indus tries in the Fifth Plan? SHRI D. D. DESAI: The immediate THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE problem has been one of maintaining MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI the existing industries at their rated MOHAN DHARIA): (a) to (c). A capacity. The shortfall resulting from statement is laid on the Table of the the closure or lay-off recently has been House. essentially on account of reduced sup ply of local raw materials and power. Statement What steps are Government taking to Alongwith the rest of tfce country ensure the full rated operation of the existing industries and what additional every effort is being made to have ra provisions are being made to meet pid and intensive industrialisation of Gujarat in the Fifth Plan. In their the increased load requirement in the Draft Fifth Plan, the Gujarat Govern matter of power? Would there be ment have proposed an outlay of Rs. additional production of electrical 12.00 crores for exploitation of mine power to take care the increased power needs of industrial investment? rals, Rs. 45.30 crores for development of Large and Medium industries and Rs. 7.70 crores for village and small SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: Govern industries including thc handloom in ment are fully aware of the under dustry. The size of the State Plan out utilisation of the present capacities. lay is however yet to be finalised. In There are various reasons including the Central sector, provision of Rs. 211 the shortages of raw materials, power, crores has been made for expansion of transport bottlenecks etc. All these Koyali refinery, petro-dhemical com are taken into consideration, and it is plex at Baroda and the fertiliser pro for this reason that adequate provision ject in the cooperative sector, apart is made in the annual plan of 1974-75. from investments in oil exploration and production and oil pipelines. SHRI D. D. DESAI: But partly gene SHRI D. D. DESAI: The hon. Minis rating plants are not operating for ter says in the statement that the want of fuel, namely, RFO. That is State industrial plan is not yet finalis the main problem. ed, but he has indicated some difficul ties. In view of the great change that SHRI P. G. MAVALANKAR: The has taken place in the industrial {pat hon. Minister lhas said that the size of tern requirements, particularly in the the State plan outlay is yet to be fina oil and petro-chemical areas, would lised. May I know how long it will Hie hon. Minister not take into consi take for the present administration, deration the acute shortages and the now that the State is under President's a n Oral Answers APRIL 17, XOM O o f Answers 28 rule, to finalisp the plan? May 1 know (b)wfeeth«r fee i» «w we of the graVe whether Government are also conscious apprehensions o f 'the Metro Cinema ol the fact that in view of the conti Employees if Government take-over nued power cuts because of the diffi does not take place sooner; and culty or lack of supply of RFO to Dhu- varan and of coal to Sabarmati plants, (c) the action proposed SHRI I. K. GUJRAL; Government SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: During is not negotiating with that particular the whole of the question hour I have gentleman who was named. There is not put one supplementary. This is no question of our negotiating with not a party matter. anybody in India at this stage. Earlier we had asked the selling party to MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You nominate somebody or send somebody ate a veiy active Member. from there with whom we can talk SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You are 'but at that ntage it did not go through. unnecessarily creating trouble in tho We can negotiate with them again. House You should not ride rough The difficulty about taking over under shod like this. You are devoid of the article 31 is this. The Law Ministry flense of duty. felt that we could not do it. there were some difficulties. We shall take MR DEPUT Y-SF1EAKER- Order, up the matter again. please. Kindly sit down. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Call SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; You attention. become a Moghul, sitting in the Chair. That is tho trouble Power gets into SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You the head. said you would call me. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER- Order, please Call attention. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER- I said I would call you or Mr. Somnath Chat- terjee. WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUES TIONS SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU. You called two persons from one party. Study oh Fuel Consumption by NPC MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: No, * 700 SHRI RAGHUNANDAN please I have gone to the call atten LAL BHATIA: tion. SHRI N. SHIVAPPA: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU I have Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL been trying to catch your eye from the DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE veiy heginnmg. I am concerned with AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to the whole matter. This cannot be stale: done this way, arbitrarily. Do you want to save the Government from (a) whether at the instance of this embarrassment? Ministry, National Productivity Coun cil made a study in March, 1974 on MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER- I a™ not fuel consumption m order to save tuel: huie to save anybody from anything; I am here to give everybody an MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER There (c) the decision taken thereon? are many important things of youre THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Thi« is DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND most unfair TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- MANIAM): (a) The National Pro MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; You ductivity Council had, at the instance make an issue of everything. of the Central Government, prepared 358 LS—2 35 W ritten Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers 36 a paper on how to reduce fuel con (a) whether several firms in West sumption. Germany have shown interest in col laborating with industries! in our (b) Introduction of multiple-iares country; and for taxis in cities and towns was one of the recommendations made by N.P.C. (b) if so, the fa^ts thereof? (c) The recommendations are under consideration of the Government. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE Filling of vacancies for Scheduled AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. Castes and Scheduled Tribes in Minis SUBRAMANIAM'): (a) and (b). The try of Industrial Development jetting up of mdustiies in the private sector depends largely on the initia *712. SHRI R N BARMAN: Will tive and enterprise of entrepreneurs the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE who submit applications for foreign LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND collaboration after they have negotia TECHNOLOGY be pleased t0 state: ted the broad terms of a proposal with a foreign collaborator. At present 48 (a) whether many vacancies reserv proposals for collaboration with West ed for Scheduled Castes and Schedul German firms are under consideration. ed Tribes in his Ministry were not fil Some of the industries cover by the led during 1972 and carried over to proposals are automobile ancillaries, the next year; and electric components caustic soda, chlorine, textile machinery, printing (b) category-wise (Gazetted and machinery, driving steam turbines Non-Gazetted) number of such cement making machinery and allied vacancies? products. These proposals will be con sidered on merits in accordance with the existing policy and guidelines. THE MINISTER OP INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM): (a) and (b). The vacancies reserved for Scheduled *718. faRjfa fosc : Castes and Scheduled Tribes which were unfilled in 1972 and carried for itfsjr : ward to the next year were as follows:— qf’TT iftaR: qq-, qrr^ft (sp) qrr^r qrew fa Setting up of Industries in Collabora tion with West Germany ^ ^ cfi^ vfrapftt i r o w - *716. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY: ■^juprrf ; sffc Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE (w) WtffyV 1 AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: 37 W ritten Answers CHAITRA 27, 1806 (SAKA) Written Answers 38 (b) if so, the time by which the stocr *rm m n x m *rsft emergency will be revoked? ( aft **tFT ^Tfwr) : (^ ) THE MINISTER OF HOME AF far). # tt % 'te# ^rr*rr FAIRS (SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIK ^P r t f a t s r m $ SHIT) : (a) and (b). The question of qNrfo T”# t, ^ fw revocation of Emergency is under con tinual review It is, however, not ^ ^ 1 »r# I ; *rh: (b) if so, when? (*r) ft , ffr jt THE MINISTER OF INFORMA *f7f 7 ^ *PTF TT f^TT if WVT SPTnT TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI r r if,i i ’ I. K. GUJRAL): (a) and (b). Surat District m Gajarat is already covered by the high powei medium wave #anr («ft %o ijgrRwr : transmitter at Ahmedabdd. However, (t ) iff 1 srspp w 7 Ti proposals to provide broadcast cove* rage, particularly to tribal areas in »t?rr irsFT srm V the neighbouring district of Dang in Gu'jarat, during Fifth Plan period are under consideration. (w) s V (it). ^rfq^r Revocation of Emergency in the 1973 5rm vsrr Country «it 1 esrreite % f^Ri % tsw; f t % forr *720. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH MALIK: Will the Minister of HOME «rr1 ttswm srrfarar *re«r ^ t i [*F«n*w # tsit i 3. To encourage and stimulate future consciousness/concern for future €to—7 6 2 0 / 7 4 ] i among universities and other institutes of advanced learning in India and to Expert panel on Futurology carry out “future—research” on spe cific projects in the field of Futuro ♦722. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHAS- logy. TRI: Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to B. Members of the NCST Panel on state: Futurology (a) whether Government have cons Chairman tituted an expert panel on Futurology to review the existing process of tech 1. Dir. B. D. Tilak, nology assessment and forecast India’s Member, NCST, basic needs in the field; and Director, National Chemical Laboratory, (b) if so, the outlines thereof? Poona. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL Members DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- 2. Dr. Ashok Khosla, MANIAM): (a) Yes, Sir. A Panel on Senior Specialist (DEPC), Fulurology has been set up by Nation Deptt. of Scicnce & Tech., New al Committee on Science & Techno Delhi. logy. 3 Dr R C Nigam, (b) A statement giving the terms of Senior Specialist (BEPC) reference of the Panel, its member Deptt ot Science & Tech., ship and the areas of study identified New Delhi by it is placed on the Table of the 4 Dr P. K Rohatgi, House. Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore. Statement 5. Prof J T Panikair. NATIONAL COMMITTEE ON Deputy Director, SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY (NCST) I.I.T, Powai, PANEL ON FUTUROLOGY. Bombay-76. A. Terms of the Reference of the 6 Mr J C Kapur, panel 3, C, Rashmi, Carmichaol Road, Its terms of reference would be as Bombay-26. follows: — 7. Mr. Bharat K Bansal, Senior Specialist (DEPC.), 1 . To review the existing processes of technology assessment and decision Deptt of Science & Tech.. making, their trends to suit Indian New’ Delhi. conditions and to prepare a Report on 8 Mr V Rao Aiyagan, Technology Assessment. Senior Scientific Oflicor, NCST Sectt., New Delhi. 2 . To prepare monographs/reports in applied fields of future research, 9 Dr. Rajni Kothari, presenting likely future perspectives Director, in selected areas, to serve as back— Centre for the Study of groundeis for policy makers in differ Developinq Societies, ent organisations in the Government 29, Rajpur Road, of India Delhi-6 . Written AniW m CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 10. Dr. D. K. Ranganaker, (a) what is the expenditure plan Editor ‘Economic Times’, ned for Ayurveda during the Fifth Bennett Coleman & Co., Ltd., Five Year Plan; and O. Box No. 213, (b) whether there are any advisers Dr. Dada Hhoy Naroji Road, in the Planning Commission to guide Bombay-400001. the development of Ayurveda? 11. Dr. J. G. Mrishnayya, Professor, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Information Systems & Operations MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI Research I.I.M., Vastrapur, MOHAN DHARIA): (a) As indica Ahmedabad-380015. ted m Chapter 1 0 of the Draft Fifth Five Year Plan (Vol. II) which was 12. Dr. M. S. Iyengar, laid on the Table of the House, a C/o D-ll/4, NPL Quarters. total outlay of Rs. 28.07 crores is en Dr. K. S. Krishnan Road, visaged for the development of Hom New Delhi-16. oeopathy and Indigenous Systems of medicine including Ayurveda in the Member-Secretary Fifth Plan Separate allocation for Ayurveda is not available at present. Hi. Dr. S. C. Seth, (b) An officer of the rank of Chief Under Secretary to the Govt, of heads the Health Division in the Plan India, NCST, Technology Bhavan, ning Commission and look? after this New Delhi-110029. Sector, including the development of C. Areas of Study identic,ed by NCST Ayurveda and other Indigenous Sys Panel on Fu'xirology tems of medicine. The following areas have been iden Measures for removal of Poverty tified for intensive and analytical stu suggested by Economists in a dies in terms of the immediate future meeting at Bombay of 1895 and the likely future in the year 2,000 AD. in India; *724. SHRI V. MAVAYAN: (i) Energy generation and needs; SHRI P. M. MEHTA: (ii) Housing; Will the Minister cf PLANNING be pleased to state: (iii) Transport & Communication; (a) whether some prominent eco (iv) Urbanology and slum prob nomists had held a meeting at Bom lems; bay recently to discuss the proposed (v) Rural Life Styles and Rural Fifth Five Year Plan; anji Development of India; (b) whether they have suggested (vi) Study of the Social Matrices that the main aim of the Fifth Plan should be to remove poverty; and with special reference to tihe NCST Groups; (c) other suggestions made by them? (vii) Pood; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (viii) Management. MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN DHARIA): (a) and (b). At development of Ayurveda in Fifth a meeting of the Business Economists’ Plan Group held at Bombay in March, 1974 most of the participants are re *723. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOH- ported to liavp suggested that the main PATRA: Will the Minister 0f PLAN aim of the Fifth Plan should be to NING be pleased to state: remove poverty. 43 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Ansmrt 44 (c) Some of the other main sugges Assessment of the Boults of Liber tions made by the participants includ alised Licensing Procedure ed the reduction in the emphasis on core sector of industries, increasing of •726. SHRI R. P. UIAGANAMBI: employment opportunities for the Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL masses raising of the size of the Fifth DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND Plan, establishment of an efficient dis TECHNOLOGY be pleased to ft ate: tribution system and adoption of dis trict planning. (a) whether any assessment has been made about the results of liber alised licensing procedures initiated last year; Rural Industries Project in Chittoor (Andhra Pradesh) (b) if so, the result of such assess ment; and *725. SHRI P. NARASIMHA RED DY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL (c) whether there is any proposal DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE to fuither liberalise industrial licen AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to sing procedures to accelerate indus- tual firowth in the country? state: (a) whether G'ovemment propose THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL to extend the Rural Industries Pro DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND jects to the remaining backward TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA Districts in the country; MANIAM)- (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Government announced certain deci (b) if so, the programme invisaged sions on the streamlining of industrial for the next five years; and approval procedres and of procedures in the delicensed sector. The main objective of these measures is to issue (e) whether Government will con industrial approvals such as letter of sider the urgent need of extending intent /industrial licence, foreign col the project t0 cover District like laboration approvals and capital goods Chittoor in Andhra Pradesh which clearances within prescribed time ate agriculturally and industrially limit.. Small and medium entrepre backward? neurs who in in delicenscd sector up to Rs one crore of investment have THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL r*lso been permitted to apply for capi DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND tal goods clearances without prior TECHNOLOGY (SIIRI C. SUBRA licensing under certain specified conditions. MANIAM): (a) and (b). At present there is no pxoposal before Govern Those measures have resulted in ment to extend the Rural Industries expediting the issue of approvals and Projects Programme to cover all the in providing relief t0 small and me industrially backward districts select dium enliepieneuis. It may be point ed to qualify for concessional finance. ed out that out of 491 applications However, 57 projects selected for es tablishment during the Fifth Five (excluding applications having MRTP Year Plan are all located in backward bearing and those returned as incom districts declared as such by the Plan plete) received during November and ning Commission. December, 1973, for which the pres cribed time limit is 90 days, 455 cases wete deposed of by March end. Out (c) The District of Chittoor docs of 89 foreign collaboration applications not figure as one of the Districts (excluding applications returned as selected for the location of RIP Pro incomplete) received during November jects during the Fifth Plan. and December, 1973, 75 cases have Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 45 been disposed of by March end this REDDY): (a) and (b). The proposal to year. Orders are under i6~':U~in res- extend telephone facilities to Deve- pect of 12 cases. Similarly out of 51 lopment Block Headquarters during applications for Capital Goods clear- the Fifth Five Year Plan is ••nder con- ance (other than those returned as in- sideration of the Government. complete) received during Nevember and December, 1973. 46 cases were dis- posed of by March end. Orders are under issue in one case. In 5 compo- site cases received in November and * 729. '-'TT~T'i In: 'f (c) No, Sir. (er.) 'PlY mfi <:P1T 'Xp:mrr: ~nrm- ~ >;Iq~;~f Telephone facilities in Development ( Council of Mayors on the 6th Febru as Calculators, mini-Computers, Com ary, 1974; and puter Peripherals etc* (b) if so, the broad outline thereof *nd Government’s decision thereon? Appointment of retired Officer in Hindustan Paper Corporation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ■MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 6971. SHRI Y. ESWARA BEDDY: MOHAN DHARIA); (a) and (b). A SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: statement is laid on the Table of the House. [Placed %n Library Sec. No. Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL LT-6721/74]. DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ibe pleased to state: News-item on “Curb On Computer (a) whether a retired section officer Monopoly” is holding the post of Personnel 6970. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will Officer-cum-Secretary in the Hin the Minister of ELECTRONICS be dustan Paper Corporation, New pleased to state: Delhi; (a) whether attention of the Gov (b) if so, his academic and techni ernment has been drawn to the news cal qualifications; report in a Bombay Daily dated the (c) the reasons for the appointment 24th March, 1974 under the caption of a retired person, when enough qua ■“curb on computer monopoly” ; and lified persons are available in this (b) if so, what is the reaction of the country; and Government thereto? (d) the criteria considered for the THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER selection of the present Personnel OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER Officer-cum-Secretary ? OF ELECTRONICS AND MINISTER OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE GANDHI): (a) Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE LOPMENT (SHRI M B. RANA)- (a) (b) The programme proposed by the The present Secretary-*^ m-Pera£>n- Department of Electronics for com nel Officer joined the Corporation on puters under the Fifth Five Year Plan, 1-6-1970 when he had more than three envisages the establishment of a self- years to put in before attaining the reliant computer industry in the coun age of superannuation. try. In order that national capabili ties be built up effectively, it would (b) He is a graduate and has con be necessary to prevent any monopo siderable experience of paper indus listic position developing in the com try. puter market in India. To ensure this, Government have evolved certain (c) and (d). At the time of appoint guidelines t0 regulate the import of ment of present Secretary-cwm-Per- computers; these involve specific ap sonnel Officer, the present incumbent provals given by the Department of was considered suitable because of his Electronics after detailed examination knowledge of paper industry in tlie of the needs The broad guidelines country and his association with the adopted have been indicated in the development of all the projects pro Annual Report of the Department of posed to be implemented by the Hinl Electronics for 1971-1972 More de dust an Paper Corporation. As the tailed guidelines are under considera projects are now on the anvil of mak tion of Government. Government ing headway, the organisational set have alsn> set up specialist panels to up for the Corporation has been final advise c i the licensing on an equitable ised and the post of Manager (Per basis ot range of products, such sonnel) has been advertised. Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 50 Launching of a Satellite % far* 6974. SHRI K. MALLANNA; Will the Minister of SPACE be pleased to state: 6972. «ft wftr* *RT : WT ftfiT(5T %fi x sfNftr«i^V # 1 v z w t i't (a) whether a prototype model of the first Indian scientific Satellite, ^ fTT fif> : designed and built at Peenya, on the outskirts of Bangalore was success fully launched and tested on 9th ( v ) 2rtt «rrrcT sfh: *n#*? % February using an I.A.F. helicopter; w m fe* srtr m?4tfn wtnfFr ^ and ^ r q w f f a s w ta T fqrr t ; (b) if so, the facts thereabout? THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER (w ) ^rfer ft, eft (*r ) ?rr, efir 3?r*r nmr sfor If «ra*r& «Nr % « i W W t % #?T T*r w tftor9 fO w i w ?tarr if tnwr («ft 6977. *ft ^rfvTqrt^^n^T T t wr*r *r g ? ji« i (5 ) sr.^ ?r rft pt wr*rr * *Tnr *T7TT~ s m ^ TTfaTRTT 'sfTTT ttt ? =T4r v-^rrt ^ ?rr ^ r ? s*$ tr t ^ 1 T r^rT 7 fa JTTtsrr «n~ fTH-' t n ?4r=r r? F^rrfqcrfom w $ iJ^RT TTctT T W ’ if^cT -n«»T *>3 ?TT ?tti im fTrr^Ti Tiii urn TT 6976. «ft «l»TT «8IT0T *Vfa?T * »P1T ffaftfr* fa*?W * 7 TTR Ti ^«u ^ % qgnfarar ^ f ^ w % *rcr?§sw fr r T^n It 6 9 7 8 ^>IW1W YtfifRf : (7 ) *RT T S lJ1?T sp-3 w r irtarm ( t ) «wt *Tr-xi sr-xw % iT?n?m*r (>5r) TR* *T rT?T* SFT* STT^ ^ T ^rrrTT fTTFT T n frrr jpr ’ iJT^rp- ?T f ? f fK ^ 5T^5T % v f i f i m m % srftr rtrncT ^ \?t t?t ^ , v> tiWrtw ^sitw ^nfsft («ft faqrejjWH trarft) : ( r) 5TTTT r T t" ST^TT^T STICST ?TffV |T | ( a ) ?rk Fr =ft t> ^ r*x ^ ]T ** m T P f^ f ( w ) s rw £1 ?r$V -£?rr 1 T O TT f ? 53 Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1806 (SAKA) Written Answers 54 uwro w w w w t w w (<(i facilities to the villages tn the State of Bihar have been achieved, and if % f « n f ^ n ) : (*p) w s r ^ r % »^r- not, the reasons tfcerefor? sftarsr ?r«rT ^ ^ % sn t ^ srfcT ^ f r r srro srtr srrf*rr fa rm % sart % srrt THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Jr JEr^rr-^^nr "a ^ tr jt % MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (PROF. SHER SINGH) : 81 per cent urn, t^wic^t *r $®fr of the target far 4th plan was achie «WfT?ft tTr ^ t t swtt ?rfr 1 ved till the end of February, 1974. The shortfall is due to non-fulfilment of the prescribed conditions for open ( * ) TT^T * P T F ift t^TOTr tffsft ing of POs and also due to restric % N l % fsRTpT % f^rq ^ ? T faf^STT tions placed on opening of new POs t ?r *rrjfV «r^ ffa ntsfsrr sri^T % during 1973-74 on account of financial sr«rr^r *r stttot > it f a f *r qfa t 1 5im» 9 creased work (b) Does not arise m view of (a) above Postal facilities m the Villages of Bihar during Fourth Plan *»?nrr*? «Kt m y fosff i¥ MM 6979 SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD VETMA Will the Minislei of COM MUNICATIONS be pleaspd to state 6981* *ft pP * : whether the target fixed m the Fourth jr t ifti ftfry fTTf*r *f> ti Five Year Plan for extending postal f k t H fT -55 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answer6 56 (*0 s-w Tps? z * a rcs** 3 ^ 8 *fa*rr ^rrcSv fr m w t fw^ff % *m w «ptt t ^?rr fae, (6t^m) 9.54 fa H^PTT3 *pjt-=rc %*?cT fatr tfVr 9 *rta*mnr ft?* fao, vHirrsiT? 4 72 f*5T) 9W f>?ft apt 4* 1 *7 4 -/4 10 fefc^ra- frrfSr»r ^ % stn*T fa?RT |TW cr^TT r r= ?? ? aftfor f*m far®, spF«rf 6 73 (W*IT, ifW H w fsvTOf i?^Tfw?f r m i97J?r^) *flft («ft V&* THT) : («f?) sftx (*T) WfTTTSf 11 ^T?T € ir 22 vwrfroiitfV t f^ m srsro fafff 5TT0 fr o , ^T^fr- sxvrr ^ *ra>r (fiwrar srk fafatpr) T O 17 88 srfsrfoFT, 1951 cT«rr sp fcts? (w sr $r«r *r %?rr) ?rf i 972 * 12 SfT'TCTSrT* ^falT f*qf?nr tto? cftfa*T srsffr w f t fr«r % fsnrr §• 1 & ™ «PT STI* cHTT ^ *Tshr % ^ T ’FF^fTJT T^ffi f^o sFarf 1 9 1 5 1 9 7 3 ^1 S^fST ^ f^ 1 J 5TTFTT fT^r **%$ (— )9 38 14 r r ^ I^T3T^?T fa n r * o gcHfUT ^r TPT f*T STT*/ Siwrt 2 5 60 *To ^Tf?T arms 1 5 TOTfTT fipJT, spff f?m<*rr (fa?rr vrm^r) 17 02 16 ^ f *#r»r (^TT^sT WTT *T) tr»rg- ^tfspT iTtrg- jj?zr- tR'F^fTrr f*FTTf SPRT^- to> t (fiwn* firfvm?r) 33 35 88 *fafsrmT, 1951 17 WT STcTT'T fPTfsni «fVf^r tttj^- ^aronrfor f » R ^fW?TT 19 94 1 *rr?*r f^RT *rr*np: f*T° JTPI^T 88 3 3 18 ^SRTfSTTi^ f^TW rFffc 5 9 80 2 STRo tt?To iTT^o *fto it^clT fwrfJT’T TTtrg- 1 q SJTro afto ^TfaTTT sftism far?* fa®, ^anr^rcr frqfjnr ^no 19 69 afVfaPT f*Tc»T fg W f i 33 3 / W ritten Answers CHAITRA 27, ..1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 58' 2d. w fa n r tp r x m «w*pr If w W t («ft 1^0 faW , «wtwr . 19.44 6984. SHRI VAYALAK RAVI; Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE fi^ p * qifawFft qirwiTCV q w LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: (a) the total amount allotted to the 6982. gHWT T O VSJ«TW : State of Kerala for undertaking em w r *Fjft a ? m f t fjqr ployment-oriented projects and , f t : schemes for the year 1974-75 by his Ministry; and {^ ) % f3R15Tr^ (b) a brief outline of the projects 'TTf^RcTT'fr m ^ m f r to be executed during this period and Trf^' | ; ?rk the total number of persons to be em ployed in these schemes? (sr) ^ *r faer% s q f ^ f % ^flr »Icl 6 % Z3T$ *rf *ft ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DE VELOPMENT (SHR M. B. RANA): *in*w * T m if (Mt q (b) the number of times tho direc Jim % w*til (*h *« • tors’ Board have met during this period together with the expenditure incur qwo n^fiwr) : ( * ) 1 9 irk 20 mrf, red an it? 1974 % ^ Tr?r % tTf? f ^ f t % xj-m f& m \ w m s THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE f^n w «rr tfk srt 4 MFwtff ?t«tt MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE t«p ? n # T ^“ 8 60 htt ^ s r snro? * t LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RAN A): ^ *ft I (ST) ?t ( * ) . 1 -1 0 -7 3 sr Rs. 31— 3— 7 4 5T3f» 5Rfgf if 3 9 M fa w f ftTWIT f*PTT W «TT ?rk 6. 920 1971-1972 . . 149548-27 fW^fRTFT *fk l i . 920 fatfferpT 1972-1973 . . i ‘ 68 85939 ^rrsTr «c Drugs and Pharmaceutical licenses on the Advice of Drag Controller 6987. SHRI K. S. CHAVDA; Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE 6986. VJ 5TTH w m : VELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND t o i »t$ *r$ft ^ *n=rr% *?t i rr®F fwr?*T wk ^ fWr t o t (a) the number of cases of Drugs ; artr^re q?t ; and Pharmaceutical licensing, in which permission letters were ap ( s ) w q lr st«p t t proved with or without the advice of ¥ t ’ TT^ F WfW K spt 3lT?ft the Drugs Controller; t ; (b) the number of cases in which Drug Controller was coopted as a (n ) w r (d) when .Drugs Controller is Ex- DGTD, there is a Deputy Director Officio Industrial Adviser in D.G.T.D., General dealing with drugs, who at- why be is not consulted directly by tends the meetings of the Licensing D.G.T.D. instead of through the Minis Committee, whenever it is necessary try of Petroleum and Chemicals; and Ad Hoc Appointments iu Ministry of (e) whether there is any Industrial Industrial Development Adviser for the Drugs with D.G.T.D. at present other than Drug Controller of India, if not, reasons why he is not 6988. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: invited to all the meetings of the Licen Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL sing Committee? DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) (a) the present strength of L.D.Cs and (b). The permission/no objection and Gfcade III Stenographers recruited letters were issued prior to 1966 on on ad hoc basis (cattgory-wise) in the the basis of Licensing Committee’s Ministry of Industrial Development; idecision that production of an addi tional item by an existing undertak (b) whether they are recruited by ing would not amount to the manufac the Employment Exchanges; ture of ‘new article' provided the ad (c) if not, whether they have been ditional item fell under the same ‘head’ selected after inviting applications in the First Schedule to the IDR Act through Newspapers; and provided the use of a new trade -mark or patent was not involved. This (d) if replies to (b) and 6990 SHRI R P DAS Will the THE DEPUTY KHNISTER IN THE Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE MENT AND SCIENCE! AND TECH LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN NOLOGY be pleased to state ANSARI) (a) and (b) No, Sir. It is not a regular feature though certain (a) whether his Ministry iecen/ed delays have occurred due to procedu any information that the Director of ral difficulties in payment of salary Research, Cential Sericultural Re and wages on due dates search Station Berhampore, West Bengal recently appointed Assistam Shertallai (Kerala) Telephone Line Man, Pump Operator, violating Exchange the recruitment rules relating to age and minimum qualification, and 6992 SHRI VAYALAR RAVI Will (b) if so, the steps taken by Gov the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS ernment in this regard’ be pleased to state. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE (a) whethci Government aie aware LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN tnat the Battery System of Shertallai ANSARI), (a) The two posts of As (Kergla) Telephone Exchange is in sistant Lineman and the Pump Op$-» sufficient to meet the demand, g f W r U t m - M m * CHAHK& t t , t m (SAKA) VtMnteMn 66 > g » i t omnrnm nffl kM M W w k»M iiw ri cr tiki <*o instal a» I M k Ttlflilcil H**1! >{ 6994. SHRI Z. M. KHANDOLS: Will (c) whether Government have the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS received any suggestion from Kerala be pleased to state: Circle to (a) whether Government intend to TH»MIHIST*ROPaPrATEINTHB3 open more branch post office* in the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS tribal areas of Nasik district; (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. The existing 800 line* Central Battery (b) whether some such Post Office* Non-Multiple Exchange i» insufficient already opened have been dosed, end tp quest the present demand of tele- if so, for what reasons; phone* at Sfcertallai (c) whether ther« is a practise (c) Yes, Sir. (e) if not, the reasons therefore THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS vrtt iritafrr nf ftwft ittt (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. W w t u n ff f t (b) A few branch offices had to be TOfNtlff closed due to non-payment of the re quired amount of N on-Retumable- Contribution. 4 9 9 3 . tft wm M » (c) Yes, Sir. *PTT ffttftfiff fiWTO vt (d) In case of post offices opened r«TT fa in public interest the loss upto a cer tain prescribed limit Is subsidised by the Government For very backward ) w qrrafY vr*fta>r w r , areas, this limit is Rs. 1000|- as against ftnft *mr< 24 irk 70 thnsrfifhur Rs 6061- for normal areas # m u m «rft: swrr w t (e) Does not arise in view* of the m & n me | ; «ftr reply to part (d). (v) *rf? $t, sft is ftwft ffrn wivN if fcNta wm wrofor spt v t iffRW J ? 6998. fW TO WTO S W *rcft *3 «tctt# fa : i M f a * t o m * h im t (# SwmKnw w # ) t ( * ) ifh: (*) *iT^?rvten,fa$iT3**r- ( » ) , fw«rr nsgft m ^ | tfh: «wt j t $ § wrcr ¥ & % fwt m L S -3 67 W ritten Answers APRIL 17, 1074 Written Answers 68 THE ICIN181 SR OT STATE IN THE ft wm (5ST) ¥TT *PteTT AStffcT % *ft*ft DMkiHfii g w «pfe^rf ^ $ t vrft % faft toh tt Plan Outlayfor 1974-75—Statet % Crores) K Outlay tfwc *»*mw if Tim *&ft (sfto *T : («F) 5ft I ^ *(( $ ftr src«T*nir ct*ft srm-Tw £ STTO ?5ft^t*T ^T P W y*F\T $ 1. Andhra Pradesh . . 127-39 srfrft f [ fsRT srr avcit t i ft 2. Assam • 53-66 tpp S^ff^T I 3ft % ^ r 3. Bihar ■ 168-98 t^ro^r ft ^?t | i ft wf 4. Gujarat • 143-32 ^ ^r^rfTFF s?ft#T * t t | aft *rr* Tte 5. Haryana • 8i*6o ft r fsrr | i ^fftJTr 6. Himachal Pradesh • 31*16 ft ^ t w r ^ spr# v R5 T» mTsrnr «ftr v (sr) ^et 5FT«nr ¥terr ft 3 5 7 ^ 11. Maharashtra , • 27584 sftr ^ r j T % farft 5ppt ^ ^>fi 12. Manipur . . 12*06 f , ^^rfvrft *terr ft vs*pjt m vm M i 13. Meghalaya • 13 63 **tr % faft tfttfr srr** Sft wrr 14. Nagaland • 14*00 q’tfsR* ffts ?r|t ^tcrr 1 ^tsrr ft 15. Orissa . srreft tftfftgr w * i w vt v m ft T^t • 71-24 fft fa*rr*T % 't r *>>$ sr^^r 16. Punjab • 107-87 ^ i 1 17. Rajasthan . • 79*80 18. Tamil Nadu • 112*00 19. Tripura . • 11*00 Allocation to States 20. Uttar Pradesh . • 255*19 6996. UHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: 21. West Bengal • 147*87 Will the Minister of PLANNING be Unallocated for Hill & Tribal be pleaued to state the State-wise Area* . . . *5*00 allocations made for State Plans for AU Statss . • *116.50 the year 1974-75? 69 Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1890 (SAKA) Written Answers 7c Director* ia Bamag Engineering and ment in M|s. Bemag Engineering Co. Manufacturing Company Private and no share of M|s. J. Stono and Limited of Thana and J. Stone Co. have been issued to M[s. Bemag and Co. of Calcutta either. As intimated by the Mahara shtra Government, M|s. Bemag keep 6697. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will either own separate books of account, the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE the technical staff appears to be inde LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND pendent, the two Companies seem to TECHNOLOGY be pleased to refer to be independent of each other and no the reply given to Unstarred Question ‘Benami' function seems to be involv o, 9707 dated the 9th May, 1973 re ed. In view of these facts, it is not garding transfer of items manufactur necessary to institute any C.B.I. in ed by J. Stone and Company, Calcutta quiry into the matter. to Bemag and Company and their Caste System effect on employees in Calcutta and state: 6998. SHRI V. MAY AVAN. SHRI TARUN GOGOI: (a) whether same directors operate in the name of both Bemag Engineer Will the Minister of 110MK ing and Manufacturing Company Pri AFFAIRS be pleased to state: vate Limited of Thana in Maharashtra and J. Stone and Company of Cal* (a) whether caste system is fat»t cutta; dying out in India; (b) whether the Bemag (a) whether traffic on Qutab Road (b) if so, the tm*km of C m m l and Sadar Bazar crossing in Delhi Government thereto? remain invariably blocked donag the afternoon, causing much suffexings to the commuters wanting to catch THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE trains at Delhi and New Delhi xuJ- MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI way Stations; MOHAN DHARIA): (a) and (b). Yes, (b) if so, what are the causes Unsnh- Sir. The State Government have for; and recently requested for additional Central assistance during 1974-75 for (c) what action the authorities are Rajasthan Canal Project Stage-L The taking to keep the busy centre tree State Government have been request from traffic blockade? ed to furnish the detailed break-up of the spillover eost of the remaining THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE works, detailed phased programme of MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS construction and complete tie-up of (SHRI F. H, MOHSIN): (a) No, Sir. the benefits ana the investments to be However, there is traffic congestion at made to enable a- final view to be the crossing during certain hours. taken. (b) This crossing is surrounded by the main wholesale market of Delhi Mowing up of Mohra Power House «* and offices and godowns of transport Kaohmiy companies are also located around the crowing. This generates a heavy traffic of both slow and fast moving 7001. SHRI K. MALLANNA. vehicles which causes traffic conges tion. SHRI NAWAL KISHORJE SHARMA: (c) The long term solution is to shift the wholesale market and the Will the Minister of HOME transport companies to a place out AFFAIRS be pleased to state: side the walled city and to eliminate the slow moving traffic For an orderly (a) whether an attempt to blow ut> regulation of traffic at present, plying Mohra Power House in Kascumr near and parking of trucks has been banned Uri, was foiled by the timely action during certain hours in this area. of the authorities on the 14tn March Policemen are regularly deployed at 1974 ; this crossing, and the supervisory (b) whether Government have traffic police staff patrol this area. A investigated the case; and large number of traffic offenders isi this area are prosecuted every month. (c) if so, the main findings thereof? Request made by Kajasthaa for THE MINISTER OF HOME Allocation of move funds for AFFAIRS (SHRI UMA SHANKAR Rajasthan Canal Project iDtLKSHIT): (a) to (c). An anti-tank rocket sealed in its container was 7000 DR. H. P. SHARMA: Will found in the forebay canal of the the Minister of PLANNING be pleased Mohra Power House on 4th March, to state: 1974 and »ot on 14th March, 1974 . (a) whether Rajasthan Government The rocket was found to be unartned has requested the Central Government and not activated. A case has been to allocate more funds for completion registered by the local Police in this of priority work under the Rajasthan connection and investigations are In Canal Project: sad progress. 73 Written Anfuutv CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 74 large due to poor maintenance, N i r shortage f«r U w l i t f nfth non-availability of spare and Pftui poor quality 0f coal supplied. Spares required for stations 7002. SHRI D. K. PANDA; have already been procured or SHRI 11 KATHAMUIHU: arrangements have been made Will the Minister of PLANNING to obtain them. In some stations, particularly in the be pleased to state: eastern region, spares were (a) whether present power shortage obtained on a priority. TO will add to difficulties in launching render assistance in the main the Fifth Five Year Plan; and tenance of power stations and to manufacture and supply (b) if so, the steps Government spares, Bharat Heavy Electri propose to take to meet this crisis? cals have set up spares and service organisation. Thermal THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE stations have been linked with MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI particular coal fields. A MOHAN DHARIA): (a) Efforts are monitoring cell has been set being made to ensure a substantial up in the Railway Board to step-up in the rate of power genera- ensure day to day supply of tion in the Fifth Plan. Power targets coal to the thermal stations. have been fixed taking into considera tion the requirements of different sectors of development in the Fifth Plan. Of the 16.5 million kW capacity (ii) Plant maintenance schedules proposed to be added during the Fifth are being drawn up on a co Plan 10.7 million kW will be from ordinated basis in each region. spillover schemes which are in Power from surplus States is various stages of construction/comple being transmitted to deficit tion. Further in the Fifth Plan em States through the inter-State phasis has been placed on thermal lines constructed under the generation and mostly extension of Centrally sponsored program the existing stations or those under me. Off-peak power is being construction have been planned with utilised through this co a view to obtain quick results and also ordinated operation. offset to scone extent the effects of drought About 3.7 million kW is planned from extension of existing (iii) In the allocation of funds, stations. Also power programme are power sector has been given not dependent on oil fuel and there priority. In order te expe fore the present oil crisis is not ex dite some projects in ad pected to interfere with the power vanced stages o^ construction, development. As such, the present additional funds were provid shortfall in power generation will not ed over and above the out affect the launching of the Fifth Five lays provided in the Plans. Year Plan. Additional outlays of about Rs. 41.5 crores in 1972-73 and (b) Government have taken a num about Rs. 42 crores in 1973-74 ber of steps to meet the present short were released to specific pro fall in power generation. The im jects. portant steps taken are as follows: (i) The operations of the existing (iv) Monitoring celln are being set thermal stations were found up in the Planning Commis to be unsatisfactory by and sion, Ministry of Irrigation & 75 W ritten Answers APRIL 17, 197* Written Answers 76 Power/Central Water & (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Power Commission to keep (c) whether the Ministry ha* taken track of the day to day opera any step to provide the project allow tion of the power stations and ance to these employees? to monitor construction and commissioning of the projects THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE according to scheduled tar MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS geted dates. (PROF. SHER SINGH); (a) to (c). Information i« being collected. The (v) Arrangements are being made same will be laid on the Table of the for supply of scarce maierials House, as early as possible. like steel, cement, explosives to the projects. Compliance of Zonal scheme by Salt Commissioner Cement Workers Laid off In Bombay 7005. SHRI LALJI BHAI: Will the due to shortage of Coal Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH 7003. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHAS- NOLOGY be pleased to state: TRI: PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE- (a) whether Salt Commissioner, Government of India has not been in Will the Minister of INDUSTR1AT strict compliance of Zonal scheme; DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to (b) whether regions fixed for Rajas state: than State Government sources such as Didwana/Pachpadra is being allow (a) whether Government are aware ed to be catered by other sources like that about 400 workers have r>e »a laid Gandhidham, Kharagoda. etc. which off in the cement units m Bombay results in accumulation of stock and because of acute coal shortage and creates slump in market; and accumulation of stock due t) tne (c) if so, the action proposed by shortage of wagons to move; and Government in thfo regard? (b) if so, the steps tason to im THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE prove the situation? MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE II is not a fact that the Salt Commis LOPMENT (SHIU M B. RANA). (a) sioner has not complied strictly with and (b). There is only one cement the Zonal Schemes. grinding unit in Bombay and no (b) No, Sir. reports of lay off of workers in this unit have been received. (c) Does not arise. Project Allowance to Postal Employees Export of Salt in Korapnt, Orissa 7006. SHRI LALJI BHAI; WiU the 7004. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO- Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP Will the Minister of COMMUNICA MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH TIONS be pleased to state: NOLOGY be pleased to state: (a) the quantity of salt exported (a) whether the postal employees to different countries during 1973 -74; of the District Koraput, Orissa are not getting the project allowance for two (b) the salt sources in India from f* r * i where salt was mostly exported; and 77 Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 78 (e) the schemes to iacm se salt (c) whether military is for foreign export? enemy or for suppressing the Indian people? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS A statement is attched showing coun (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) Yes, Sir. try-wise exports of salt during 1973- 74 (upto February, 1974 only). (b) and (c). According to informa (b) Salt is exported mostly from tion available with the Government, salt sources in Gujarat, Tuticorin Army units were called to aid the civil authorities in the maintenance 1 source in Tamil Nadu and Sambhar of law and order in the wake of violent source in Rajasthan. disturbances in Bihar on different (c) With a view to augmenting the occasions at the places noted below: export of salt, Government have under consideration various measures, in (i) Patna cluding the mechanisation of loading March 18 to 26, 1974. facilities at Kandla port. (ii) Ranchi Statement March 20 to 28, 1974. April 2 1 to 6, 1974. SI. Name of the country Quantity (iii) Dhanbad No. exported during March 20 to April 3, 1974. (Upto February 1974) (in M* Tonnes') 1. Taiwan 93^588 Setting up of Ancillary Industries 2. Philippines 12,085 7008. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHA- RIEF: Will the Minister of INDUS 3. Singapore 5,706 TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND 4. Korea 1,81,728 SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state; 5. Maldives 715 6. Nepal 40*196 (a) whether Governm ;nt have decided to identify areas whe**e more Total 3,34,oi8 ancillary industries can be set up on a oriority basis; (b) if so, whether Government Utilisation of Military by Government have also decided to set up joint teams of Bihar and begin a techno-economic survey, and if so, the public sector undertak 7007. SHRI BIBHUTI MISHRA: Will ings under consideration to begin the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be with; and pleased to state: (c) the number of persons going (a) whether the Government oi to be provided with jobs by the set Bihar requisitioned the military ser ting up of ancillary industries? vice from the Defence Department on 18th March, 1974; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE (b) if so, the period for which the LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN Government of Bihar has been utilis ANSARI); (a) Government have ing military service; and already identified some areas having 79 Written A ntw ert APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers 8o scope for development of ancillary the presont Khadi and Village Indus industries. tries Commission to the Shsral In dustries Commission; and (b) It has been tentatively decided to constitute a joint team to visit (b) if so, the action taken on the •elected public undertakings to give recommendation? suitable suggestions to the enterprises in regard to development of ancillary THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE industries in the respective under MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE takings. This team will also enlist the LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN cooperation of the undertakings to ANSARI): (a) Yet, Sir. enable SXS.Is to depute their techno- (b) The matter is being considered economic study teams to these under in consultation with various Ministries/ takings. Some of the undertakings Departments of Government of India likely to be visited by the joint team and State Governmental etc, A final for this purpose are: decision is yet to be taken. 1. Hindustan Teleprinters, Madras. 2. Bharat Earth Movers, KGT. Development4t a Covaaie Candle by Central Glass and Ceramic Research 3. Electronic Corporation of India, Institute, Calcutta Hyderabad. 4. Garden Reach Workshop, 7010. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE Calcutta. SHARMA: Will the Minister of 5. Heavy Vehicles Factory, Avadi. SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: 6. Diesel Locomotive Works, Varanasi. (a) whether the Central Glass and Ceramic Research Institute, Calcutta 7. Bharat Pumps and Compres has developed a ceramic candle for sors, Allahaibad. use as pocket pump by the defence 8. New Vehicles Factory, Jabal personnel; pur. (b) if so, its usefulness to the de (c) Employment potential of ancil fence personnel and others who use lary industries will be known when the same in dense forest areas; the techno-economic studies of all undertakings are completed. As such (c) whether the candle is made of it is difficult to give any indication at indigenous raw material or of impor ibis' stage. ted raw material; and Transfer «f KVXC to Bural Industries (d) the cost of production thereof fTemmlrwtim following the recommen and the extent to which it would meet dations of A * * a Mehta Committee the domestic requirements and the 7009 . SHRI RAM BHAGAT PAS-amount saved as a result thereof on WAN: foreign exchange? SHRI M RAM GOPAL THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL REDDY: DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE MANIAM): (a) and (b). The Insti AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to tute has developed a ceramic candle state: for “KATADYN” pocket pump used by defence personnel tor obtaining (a) whether Asoka Mehta Commitfiltered bacteria free water from rivers tee had recommended the transfer of stream* or ponds. 8l W ritten Answers CHAITRA 27, 1696 (SAKA) Written Answer* (b) Yes, Sir. Recommendation* made byNJUXO. (c) The State Government have for petrol saving been requested to furnish the detailed break-up of the spill-over cost of the 7013. SHRI MADHU DANDA- remaining works, detailed phased pro VATE: Will the Minister of SCIENCE gramme of construction and complete AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to tie-up of the benefits and the invest state; ments to be made to enable a final view to be taken. (a) whether Government have referred several petrol saving devices foftra ftanrt M to the National Research Develop ment Corporation (NJR.D.C.) for its % WPfe JW ftf approval; •WHIWrtf ilW T (b) if so, the main recommenda 7 o if . i i p w : tions of the NJLD.C.; and titan mft (c) whether Government have : volunteered to advance loans to the S3 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1874 Written Answers 84 indigenous manufacturers of such de* to damage by working parties, floods vices? and lightning etc. THE MINISTER OP INDUSTRIAL (c) The communications from Cal DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND cutta to the Southern part of the TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- country are proposed to be provided MANIAM): (a) Seven applications through a more direct route with the for awards relating to inventions on proposed underground coaxial cable petrol saving devices have been refer form Calcutta to Madras via Kharag red to NR.D.C. pur, Cuttack, Vishakhapatnam and Vijayawada. The portion of this (b) As a result of their evaluation, scheme between Madras and Vijaya none of the proposals was approved wada has already been completed, the by the NRD.C. portion between Cuttack and Kharag pur is expected to go into trial service (c) In view of the above, the grant within a month and the entire route of loans for their indigenous manu is expected to be ready for trials by facture does not arise. March 1975. The commissioning of Calcutta-Bangalore Trunk line direct Calcutta-Madras Coaxial Cable Scheme will result in improved com munications from Calcutta to Madras 7014. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will and Bangalore the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS h» pleased to state; Corruption Case again&t Officials of Education Ministry lying pending with fa) whether he is aware that the C.BX /Yunk telephone line between Cal cutta and Bangalore is frequently out 7016. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; of order; SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN: (b) if so, the reasons for such chronic malfunctioning break-downs; Will the PRIME MINISTER and be pleased to state. (c) the remedial steps proposed to (a) whether a corruption case in be taken’ volving officials of the Union Edu- tion Ministry (Archaeological Depart ment) has been lying pending with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE C B.I. for the last 12 years; and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (PROF SHER SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, the reasons therefor? It i« a fact that the trunk lines bet ween Calcutta and Bangalore have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE not been functioning satisfactorily. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN THE DEPARTMENT OF (b) The reasons for frequent break PERSONNEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS downs and mal-functioning of the MIRDHA) • (a) and (b). No such case trunk lines between Calcutta and is pending with the Central Bureau Bangalore are the present long rout of Investigation for the last 12 years. ing of the circuits which are now pro However, in one case, registered by vided via Asansol, Kanpur Agra, the Central Bureau of Investigation Jaipur, Ahmedabad. Poona, Madras in 1965 against some officials of the and then to Bangalore. In the absence Archaeological Department, a charge* of alternative routing on the present sheet was filed in the court on 26-8-68 circuitous route, breakdowns are after the completion of the investiga inevitable to some extent as the under tion. That case is pending trial since ground coaxial cables are vulnerable then 85 Written Ansteer* CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answer* 8', CWHM vacsncteg reservedfor Sohe- MIRDHA): (a) and (b). A statement doled Csstes and Scheduled Tribe* inshowing the available information, Department of Science and Technologyclass-wise, i.e. in respect of Class I, Class II, Class III and Class IV (ex cluding sweepers) is annexed. 7017. SHRI R. N. BARMAN: Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECH- (c) Most of the unfilled vacancies NOLOGY he pleased to state: have been m Class II and Class III in the Departments of Atomic Energy (a) whether vacancies reserved for and Electronics. The posts in question Scheduled Castes and Scheduled being mainly of a scientific and tech Tribes in the Department of Science nical nature, it has not been possible and Technology were not filled dur to find suitably qualified persons ing 1972 and were carried over to belonging to the Scheduled Castes and the next year; Scheduled Tribes to fill up these vacancies (b) if so, the category-wise (G» • zetted and Non-Gazetted) number oi Statement such vacancies; and Statement showing the number of vacancies reserved for Scheduled (c) the reasons for not filling these Castes and Scheduled Tribes which vacancies during 1972? were not filled by candidates of these THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL communities during 1972 and were DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND carried over to the next year, in the TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA Departments under the charge of the Prime Minister: ~ MANIAM): (a) to (c). Information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House Class of Posts Scheduled Scheduled Castes Tribes Class I Unfilled vacancies reserved for Sche . 0 duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Class II ir 7 a r~ <0 3 7018. SHRI R. N. BARMAN: Will 67 6l the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Class IV I 6 state: (Excluding Sweepers) (a) the number of vacancies reser ved for Scheduled Castes and Sche Unfilled vacancies reserved for Sche duled Tribes in the Ministry/Depart ments under her Charge which were duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in not filled during 1972 and were car Department of Space ried over to the next year; 7019 SHRI R. N. BARMAN: Will the Minister of SPACE be pleased to (b) the category-wise (Gazetted state: and Non-Gazetted) number of such vacancies; and (a) whether many vacancies re served for Scheduled Castes and (c) the reasons for not filling these Scheduled Tribes in his Department vacancies during 1972? were not filled during 1972 and were carried over to the next year; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (b) if so, the category-wise (Ga AND IN THE DEPARTMENT OF zetted and* Non-Gazetted) number of PERSONNEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS such vacancies; and 87 W ritten Answers APRIL 17, 1874 Written A ntxoen 88 (c) l.he reasons lor not filling these for allocation of Central assistance vacancies during 1872 ? And market borrowing to be evolved by the National Development Council. THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER OP ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF EIJBCTRONICS AND MINISTER Pending application from CJP. fer OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA setting np Cement faetorfee « i| ilIM GANDHI): (a) to (c). In the Depart- facterlee ment of Space, one vacancy each was reserved for Scheduled Castes and 7021. SHRIMATI SAVITRI S$YAM: Scheduled Tribes out of a total of 8 Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL vacancies in Class III filled by direct DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE recruitment in 1972 . These two AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to vacancies could not be filled up for state: want of quitable candidates. In Class IV, out of a total of a vacancies filled, (a) total number of applications one each was reserved for Scheduled from the Uttar Pradesh for licence Castets and Scheduled Tribes. Against fer setting up of cement and other al these, three vacancies were however lied factories pending with his Minis filled with Scheduled Castes and the try and the time for how long they one vacancy reserved for Scheduled are pending; Tribes was not filled as no suitable candidate was available. Thus a total (b) the time by which such appli cations are expected to be disposed of three reserved vacancies both in Calss III and IV was carried over to of; and 1973 . (c) how many such applications are for Barelly District of Uttar Pra Cut In Allocations to States for Fifth desh? Plan THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 7020. SHRIMATI SAVITRI SHY AMMINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE SHRI NAWAL KISHORB LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) SHARMA: to (c). One application for the setting up of new industrial undertaking at Will the Minister of PLANNING Kanpur for the manufacture of cement, be pleased to state: which was received in April, 1972 , (a; whether Planning Commission was rejected in January, 1973 . The has recently cut the allocation of applicant, however, represented funds to various States; against the rejection and the repre sentation is under consideration. (b) if so, the names of those States Another application for setting up of and the reasons for this cut, especial cement factory in Debra Dun district ly, irt the case of Uttar Pradesh; and has been received on 22-3-74 and it Is (c) the alternate offered by the expected to be disposed of within the Planning Commission to the Uttar prescribed time schedule. Pradesh Government to meet the tar gets of the Fifth Flan? Fast «n4 ertaken by Shri Anafei Mart? in Bankipnr Jail, Patna THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN DHARIA); (d) whether Government will take (c) the talks so far broadcast on a sympathetic view for giving him the subject from various stations and necessaxy facilities as an undertrial the names of the persons entrusted prisoner and if so, the facts therefor such talks? about? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS BIR SINHA): (a) and 702a. SHRI SAMAR GUHA; Will (b) if so, whether any inquiry has the Minister of INFORMATION AND been made by Government; and 91 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers 92 (c) if so, the facts thereabout? *1* ibnm * w ift %*<> THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE y t ° 1 ( v ) ( * ) . ifr MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS 5T^v, « f r ^ 1 (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) Govern ment have seen some press report* about the statement made by the (*t) g w ntpf?rcr srr T^r | Editor of the ‘Searchlight*, Patna cWT STF^T fa r* 'jOro *nr«rr ^tt *rrc «forcr ifrnsro w rrm («ft ?fWt OT ^fir frPT# fpFTfrT ^ s f «wftm) fafars- afoRT ^ o*R?r ^rfcT fcRT»- 1w t sirtoft % f^tr srfeppm » ■Ot w t % gsnrcrd |, % («r) «wt fafrrr % v?r *rm wftffaET ^fV«ff jffoTCT % aftTR 3Pt »T?iW fsRlfi *fF 1 2 3 4 5 1 i 9 7 i - 72 ^riTR«Trw»r*rrftrr 9fcr t^Twd % ^p*r 1510.645408.28 4585.42 2 1972-73 *T Tl^rt rWT *PT STTfifTcT £<*> Jr f w w r fa#* 3 ia7j-74%?rpT»rMT»FnW5Tcr * c>sr*rrct % ^ *rm T t w r 539$. 53 *fm . 1510.64 8026.61 12228.44 93 W ritten Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 94 fowft w n ir a w t % i t o if jfrra «n W5T v f a m t fw r fofa if *f«iw 7 0 2 8 . CWT«3TC SfTTf* : WT w* fern iwrr #WTT «rai% ^ f»rr ^7 : 7 0 2 7 . tftwroraft w f : w r (^7) W jf^ R T 181TTT, 1 9 7 4 jf^lr *Rn% € ( ff'TT ^ fa : ^ra” !TF^5R wrr ^ fr r ^rr fT2r?rT % 3Tw ^: Jf *ti «#V fflr »ftf?r^ri' (*pr) f*rr * smfirfT ^ if «fr f ^ f ^ ^ ^ starcf wk ?r^RTT fr fc?5fr *ftpt foesr % «rr«ff tt 5r^ tit f^rf ^r f ; WT^-tTFF * 3 % ^>Tpr qTfa^TH % $ *F «Tg*i*i*wif w fc ft («ft n*o^*o («r) 5frr ?TRrn; ^ *w?r qr# ^nr?r * : ( * ) *r JT^rrftRT jfTfNifVifT % TfTWRf ^frf ^ r w r r $>% srt f?Nt f % I , ?rk gr, ?ft sw m w t forrer 1 9 *rtf, 1974 % sh? * ^ I? frmwr? *n fc fwfvfkerFW wwmt *rfaf>r *’*TSW if TWT (sfto 5T> 5TTT SilTf Wfl- Tjf rr^r fM ift % *TT- ft m ). (^p) ?rk (^r). is»rr#, mT fk&ft «Frnr fa**r % *rrf?rer * trrr?r i974^tq^T%^f ?T|r^^ % $S-^>T tff WteTT 'TTf^TR % *£5 t^?r «ftf t t $fsf»r ^r > M t ^ qw ry c ^ f^ cfR n ^Rsff ^fr “yrnr^T (»r) ^ t f t 1 ?«rrf^ t o *?Y ^rrnr srrew ftrw” 5Tm q^r srrarr «rr t w *$t «fr i 5* %?rr STPfT 1965 % wnT?T TT3P % t r j t t o t r ^r ^fpt I 1 rTTfiT STP? ’Trf^rTFr *FTiT % * m H fa*rr «rr 1 «rrf*FWR‘ («r) ^ ^ fairer vt 5^ T O rrt SRT ?-T*t IPT* *f *T> % ^ra?rr%^Jf 500^ (qtsrtftwr) «rn? jj+f srrsrr snr ^Tf^TPT % T5 ^ srr ^rl «fV 1 % qf^rn: % *rtf ^ & % w^sr *r vr ?rk ? r f^ ^r, fsra-^ ^ f t t ^ I 1 xnf«rdif «f>> ^nr 9ft w rf^ & 95 Written Aiuw «r« APRIL 17, 1874 Writtfcn Answer* 96 ?tht wror efRfliff v t m 7029. t HmWK tfTF* : *PIT 1 «n*y sr*?r 6 — 2. ’SRPT 1 — 3 8 17 4. ^fspCTff - 1 (v) 3i*rrf, i974?w??^Rwr 5. *rtaT, s m * 1 — Stanfr t?r- % far* «n#^r ^ ?n% 6- ftprnvr - 1 *rcw *wtr m f w r * w r f % *?V 7. ^rnj ar ^nnftT - 2 H M 'K W s * jt fatnft t ; 8. %T5T 4 4 9. «r1ev «. 1 10 ifw sr^r 2 5 ( * ) m T iw rrc 11. *TfTCT^ 1 1 •*fhr w t t ; Whan-the Gasifloation Plant ia ope ernment, which applies uniformly to rated theOxygen Plant is used. the newspapers published all over the country. (b) No, Sir. The Central Fuel Re search Institute (CFRI) is however, considering te lease the Plant to Oxy gen manufacturing Organisations who ChttyMMfcrMlMi* Tn*k Line v itt' agree to instal and operate the Plant near CFRI site at their own 7032. SHRI P. NARASIMHA responsibility and supply Oxygen REDDY: Will the Minister of COM requirement of CFRI as and when MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: required on agreed terms. (a) whether Government are aware of the increasing frequency of and prolonged periods of failure of Trunk Number and names of the Mw Mttict telephone lines between Chittoor and and Periodicals published from AJP. Hyderabad in State capital; and who have applied for Newsprint A m tl (b) what steps are contemplated to remedy this and to improve Trunk 7031. SHRI P. NARASIMHA telephone facility for this District? iRJBDDY: Will the Minister of INFOR MATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STAiTE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (a) the number and the names of new Dailies and other Periodicals (PROF. SHER SINGH); (a) The per published from Andhra Pradesh formance of trunk lines connecting which had applied for newsprint Chittoor and Hyderabad has generally quota during the last two years; been poor due to eopper-wire thefts. (b) the quantities allotted to them; (b) The copper wires on the trunk and lines connecting Chittoor are being re (c) whether preferential conside placed by aluminium wires. This ration will be given to the pending work is now in progress and is like applications in view of this State ly to be completed within two months. being backward in this regard? Improvement is expected after com pletion of this work and re-routing THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of the circuits through the Coaxial MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND Cables to Hyderabad via Madras. BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR SINHA): (a) and (b). The num ber of new newspapers (including Iron and Steel Industry as ancillary dailies) published from Andhra Pra Industry desh which had applied for newsprint quota during the licensing years 1972- 7033. SHRI CHANDULAL CHAND- 73 & 1973-74 is 34. A statement show RAKAR: Will the Minister of IN ing their names and the quantities of DUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND newsprint allocated to them is laid SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be on the Table of the House. TPIaced pleased to state: in Library See No. LT-6722/74]. (a) whether his Ministry has select (c) Newsprint is allocated to news ed Iron and Steel Industry as one papers on the basis of the Newsprint of their ancillary industry for deve Allocation Policy announced by Gov lopment; 358 LS—4. 99 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers ioo (b) if so, whether an order hat to (PROF. SHER SINGH): The Posts & this effect been issued; end Telegraphs Department is being re-faa- bursed @11 per cent of the gross reve- (c) whether in spite of repeated re- nu* for collecting the fees for radio quests from Madhya Pradesh Gov- and television licences and to check ernment that Steel Plant, Bhilai is the evasion of licence fees. not prepared to dev«ofc jftcffiary in dustry of steel in the State? Setaro of BeA Utantam eg Naxa- 7 HE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tttes ( M i O ffers* States MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE AFFAIR'S be pleased to state: LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) Iron and Steel Indus 7035. SHRI B. D. CHANDRA try has been selected as one of the GOWDA: Will the Minister of HOME ancillary industries eligible for tech AFFAIRS be pleased to state: nical assistance through Small Indus tries Services Institutes and allotment (a) whether Government have of factory sheds in Industrial Estates made a&y raids and seized red litera and supply of machinery on hi repur tures of Naxalites etc. from various chase terms. -I «> States, State-wise; and (b) Yes, Sir. i (b) if so, the number of persona (c) No, Sir. In fact the value of arrested and punished during orders placed on the small scale 1972-73? industries around Bhilai Steel Plant THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE has shown an increasing trend during the past few years as would be evi MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS dent from the table below: — (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) and (b). A statment based on the information available with the Government is Year Value of order laid on the Table of the House. (biennaal) placed (Rs. lacs) Statement 1969-71 35 6 1971-73 82.7 1. ANDHRA PRADESH. On 18th 1973-75 102 6 April, 1972 and 4th June, 1973, some extremist literature was recovered by the Police in Karim Nagar District. Radio and Television Licence Fees Copies of extremist publications were also seized from a book-stali at 7034. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA: Khammam on 10th October, 1973. However, no one was arrested in these SHRI M. S. PURTY: cases. Will the Minister of COMMUNICA TIONS be pleased to refer to the I. ASSAM: On 1st October, 1972, reply given to Unstarred Question the police arrested a person at New No. 4720 on 27th March, 1974 re Bongaigaon Railway Colony and sei garding radio and television licence zed two booklets, along with fees and state the expenses incurred some ammunition, from his possession. by Government in collecting the fees On 16th May, 1973, the Police arres for radio and television licences and ted two persons and recovered some to check the evasion of licence fees? papers on Naxalism, along with arms and ammunition, from their posses THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sion. The cases registered in this MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS connection are pending investigation. 101 W ritten Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (S 4K A ) Written Answers 102 3. BIHAR: During 1972-73, some Naxalite literature was recovered in Police raids in Telco Colony, Janufced- i N M # ( « » fWWW) : pur, Village Sakrauli (Muzaffar pur): ( * ) (it) . ** 1968 S 1 973% Village Dehri (Patna). 25 persons ■were arrested in this connection and the cases are under investigation. S^TTS* 5T«rT m * fattTfarffecr q t :— 4. PUNJAB; One pamphlet in red ink exhorting people to violence was seized and a case under section 9 of anf nT?TF5T»T the Punjab Security of the State Act was registered at Police Station Sadar, 1 968 118.9 11 5 .6 Jullundur, on 13th December, 1973. 1969 One person was arrested. The case 135. 3 135. 0 is under investigation. 1970 139.9 138. 2 5. WEST BENGAL: Naxalite litera- 1 971 149 0 148 4 tuie was seized by the police in some 1972 157. 1 157. 4 places of West Bengal in the recent 1 973 1 50.7 1 4 7 .7 past. However, no person was ar rested or convicted on the sole ground 3Tfr f t £ srrer f«rr fr of possession of Naxalite literature. m sfsrrir % F^rq; tffaa Information from Meghalaya and % ^TTTwft ir ST*T> ffiST Orissa is awaited Information in respect of the remaining States and # t 1 the Union Territories is ‘nil’ # sttft ewr fmw 5T r-TT 7 .7 7T* i i >?t Iftife farafcwif % arm firawi STT^T, 1967 %OTW >% wftsr 1% % «nr«r fom arFrr fr i vfor % wfor *r^r WOT V'TR TT «T7T *,*T?T SWl" >5T * *ir=raq- ?«rpfr % faO[ tfW T 7 036. fttfwlw ffT : f*r jrrr srr^fr | i ?rr^r % w Vtftfw fr o m *?rr;f ?rcr ST 3 , 0 0 , 0 0 0 siftr* v p fr ? % f^rrr ^fr jt^ srfaqrrr ^wrPrcr w r 1 1 xr&r trw rti n y^rftg (€) wm vmrwlr % f w »mr fr % t ^ ^ «n^ 'rrfjfs. srrd W VRMIsif *T JTTfT firw ^r; W?rmf w srrfc ^ r c % faRTT»t % («r) $t, *ft «fr*fer %w f f im ^rr%^r ^rd i f>r w nm % fan* WT3T faftsft cPWt % ftTW v r N ^ t to itc m w i vteNi^ wi f n i r % srP^wrr Tprt ?n^rr> vt *? smer f i 103 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers 104 *<> # *rr»r?r fit v m * vm ; %?V $ 63 84 Hrfftfft Vt 7 0 3 7 . ** f a t a f t «ir : m TfaPITT f*j?T ^T%*1T | ijWtffe* ftfm * i t v% t o t * tit iw r m m x f a : 5 % *r$T*rarr cm t*r *E*rt 3r 3TT«cr «pitrffay i t (v) w vwtefa errata 3r stftn ?t qr**t «ftw - ¥T ‘tffa V&r' zfttfiiT v w r wr sfa St vtCT *nrci (sfrcr w a r) v t t% % i o o o 3r*m* t ; *T*for ^rsr %•* (fT?r ( w ) *rfc s r, ( ^ ) *TfrR T TTt WVT ^T?T fa ^ T - f o f e t :— wrtt uT*itffoT *w r, •rf firRft if *PRif % $m tit firft 1 48 sf*rt % 3rfaewfa?r T T^ fT % *>1 3nT5?T, 7038. «l> MN t « t : w 2 #m r fa**r % f^Ffor iftatfa* fiww ^ ^ wrr^h Setting up of an ettee t* i M h by Pfloameatary “Hew GAJmpses of Delhi” HMMUnl Snrvey «tf la flt ftnduced by jMfci AMnlstratUm 7041. SHRI a A. MURUGANAN- 7039. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: THAM: Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: SHRI B. S. MAURA: Will the Minister of INFORMATION {a) \yhether ,the Zoological Survey AND BROADCASTING be pfeased to of India has decided to set up an state: office in Kerala during the Fifth Five (a) whether Government artt aware Year Plan; of a documentary entitled *W«r (b) if so, the outlines of the pro Glimpses of Delhi** produced by posal; and Delhi Administration; and (b) if so, the main features there- (c) when it is likely to start func tioning? THS DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND BIR SINHA): (a) Yes, Sir. TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- MAiNIAM): (a) No, Sir. (b) The film depicts the progress (b) and (c). Do not arise. made under the Plan during the past two years by the Delhi Administra tion. in different fields like Education; Employment; Training and Technical Education; Social Welfare; Agricul ture, Industries; Medical; Housing; S i t n Departmental employees teCrime-Prevention; Beautification, etc., etc. p it V Department ■eetmfarti on ef 7040. SHRI C K. CHANDRAPPAN: soasHaplta* geeds Will the Minister of COMMUNICA 7042. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- TIONS be pleased to state* THAM: Will the Minister of INDUS TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND (a) the total number of Extra SCIENCE AND TECHNOLQGY be Departmental employees working In pleased to state: the P & T Department; and (a) whether Government have de (b) whether decisions have since cided to impose some restraints on been taken regarding their pay, al the internal consumption of some lowances and job security? goods, so as to step up its exports; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the facts thereof and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS the nature of the restraints intended have had tttdfcr oonMderctkta various abte tofltelfP'Otbpaiftef surplus x&emnirt* Mr •topping wp the exportsarea* to neighbouring (Mklmt areas, of traditional and non- traditional speeding up of power generation pro goods One of the ^JP® bein< con“ " jects under implementation etc. dered is to impose restraints On in ternal eaaauosHdon of some goods in order to make surpluses available for exports. Individual Items have to be examined On merit since the circum Cross-bar Telephone system l » stances wo^ld duffer from i,tem to Gujarat jjtenL. This is a continuing exercise and a decision in each case will be taken as the examination is comple 7044 SHRI P M. MEHTA: Will ted. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Pleased to state; (a) whettier Union Government Set back to Industrial production In have decided to have first cross-bar GaJarat duo to power cat telephone system m the State of Gujarat, 7043 SHRI P M MEHTA. Will tlhe (b) if so, when the same is likely Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP to be installed; and MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH NOLOGY be pleased to state: (c) the place where such cross-bar telephone system will be set up and (a) whether industrial production what will be its advantages? is heavily affected in the State of Gujarat due to the power cut an THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE nounced in the month of March, 1974, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS and j* vPROF SHER SINGH), (a) to (c) The first cross-bar automatic telephone (b) li so, to what extent the {step? exchange m the State of Gujarat has are being taken to help them? been commissioned at Navarangpura m Ahmedabad on 29-3-74 THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND Apart from the addition of a capa TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRA- city for 3 000 lines to the Ahmedabad MANIAM) (a) The anticipated avail City Telephone Si stem, the main ad ability of power the Ministry of Irriga vantages of the crohs-bar exchange tion in the country like construction tion & l ’ower was only sli#itly lower than the anticipated requirement The (i) Having very little moving actual figures would, however, be components the maintenance available after some time It is also affort needed is comparative not possible to identify the short-fall ly less in this System m industrial production attributable solely to any single factor like shor (11) It renders the System very tage of power suitable for national subscri ber dialling (b) Ministry of Irrigation and Power (iii) It can provide economies in have taken several measures to im external plant prove the ovar-all power supply posi tion in the country Uke construction (iv) Re-routing of traffic amongst Of sanctioned Inter-state and inter such exchanges in possible regional, transmission links to ea- with this type of equipment. 109 W ritten Answers CHA1TKA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers i i q Shortage of Paper in Gujarat Draft plan for Backward Classes of Assam submitted by the State's Plan 7045. SHRI P. M. MEHTA; Will ning Minister the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 7046. SHRI NIHAJR LASKAR: TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: SHRI TARUN GOGOI: (a) whether Ahmedabad publishers Will the Minister of PLANNING and Booksellers Association bad drawn be pleased to state; the attention of his Ministry of an (a) whether the Minister of Plan acute shortage of paper experienced ning from Assam has submitted the by them in the state; draft outline of the Fifth Five Year Plan for backward classes in Assam (b) if so, the steps taken by Gov to the Planning Commission; ernment to help these traders in sup ply of papers; Ob) if so, the main features there of; and (c) whether the Union Government have decided to increase the allot (c> whether the Planning Commis ment quota to the Gujarat Publishers sion has approved the same? and Booksellers Association; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) if so, the quota of a paper al MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI lotted to the Gujarat State during the MOHAN DHARIA); (a) Yes, Sir. last three months? (b) The Draft Plan proposed by the Government of Assam is divided intc THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE two parts: MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) (I) An Integrated Area Plan for and (b). There are general complaints the Hitt Areas of North Cachar and from various quarters regarding shor Mikir Hitts. —The main features of the tage of paper. In order to ensure proposed programme include (i) deve supply of paper, to legitimate consu lopment of agricultural production at mers, the paper industry, traders and an annual growth rate of 5 per cent converters have adopted a “Code of in foodgrains and substantial increase Conduct" according to which the in production of other commercial paper mills undertook to supply crops; (ii) To wean the tribal popula papers to direct consumers on the tion practising shifting cultivation to basis of the average of their five years settled agriculture by undertaking off-take, and also to make supplies rubber, coffee, fruit, plantation in direct to such consumers who had been these areas; (iii) Among industries, receiving supplies through distribu large and medium units have been tors and traders should such supplies proposed for the production of cement, i l l Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers' 112 sugar, paper etc. It is also being (c) the action takfca b y th« Corpo proposed to take up tussar culture in ration for proper utilisation of loans North Cachar District The transport grafted by it? and comunications programmes are envisaged to be taken up on a sizeable THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE scale. Under social services, adequate MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE provision has been made for elemen LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN tary, secondary and higher education. ANSARI): (a) to (c). No cash loan Better and wider coverage of insti is given by the National Small In tutional health service has also dustries Corporation Ltd. The N.S.I.C. been proposed. Ltd. supplies machines to small entre preneurs on hire purchase basis In (II) Plan for Scheduled Tribes, a few cases of damages, loss in tran Scheduled Castes and Other Backward sit or inability of the hirers to run Closes in Plains Areas— The major these machines, the Corporation had effort for the development of back- to write off part of their claim de waid classes will flo>w from the sec pending upon the facts of each case. toral programmes. Integrated pro In the past the Corporation has writ grammes are proposed to be formula ten off Rs 11 lakhs approximately on ted at sub-divisional level Provision this account. is also proposed under the supple mentary sector for key programmes The Field Staff of the Corporation The main features of this programme examines the project from technical are: development of agriculture, poul and economic viability angles before try, piggery, dairying and fisheries, making the supply of machines. They improvement of social services like also periodically visit the units to en education, health, water supply, etc. sure proper utilization of the machines and realisation of the instalments In order to ensure flow of funds from the various sectors of economy and private sector investments for the Production of finished Leather benefit of backward classes. It is proposed to set up new institutional base such as corporations 7048. SHRI A. K. M. ISHAQUK: (c) The outlays and programmes for SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO: the Fiith Five Year Plan are yet to Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL be finalised. DEVELOPMENT AiND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: Utilisation of lean by National in to - (a) whether any move has been tries Corporation made to expand the installed o p a city for production of finished leatfier; 7047. SHRI A. K. M. ISHAQU£: and Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND (b) if so, facts thereof? TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: (a) whether a number of loans THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE given by National Small Industries MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE Corporation Ltd. for Hire Purchases LOPMENT (SHRI M. B, RANA): (a) of Machineries have been written off; Yes, Sir. (b) if so, amount of the loans which (b) All the existing units having in have been written off up-to-date; and dustrial licence for the manufacture of II3 Written Answers CHA1TRA 27, 1896 (SAK A) Written Answers 114 *emf-ffnished leather havebeen per Techno-Economic Survey by Small mitted to convert their capacitiesfor Scale Industries Organisation the production of finished leather without obtaining prior sanction from 7050. SHRI A. K. M. ISHAQUE: Will the Government. These units can the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE directly apply for import of capital LOPMENT AJND SCIENCE AND goods as may be required for instal TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: lation of capacity for production of (a) whether National Small Indus finished leather. Government have tries Corporation has conducted 131 prepared a list of machinery which is techno-economic surveys; and not indigenously available and which may be required by leather units. (b) if so, outlines of the surveys and There is no necessity to get indige the action taken so far with a special nous clearance from D.G T D. in reference to West Bengal, Gujarat and respect of import of machinery includ Maharashtra? ed in this list. This list has come into effect from 1st April, 1974 and will THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE be valid for a period of one year. In MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- order to increase the production of LOPMEN (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN finished leather, the exports of semi ANSARI): (a) No, Sir. finished leather have been restricted and have been brought under quota (b) Does not arise. system. Reopening' of Bhanl B u n t Setting up of Industry in Backward District in West Bengal 7052. SHRIMATI ROZA DESH- PANDE: Will the Minister of INDUS TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCI 7049. SHRI A. K. M. ISHAQUE: ENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleas Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL ed to state: DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to (a) whether Bharat Barrel has .state: been closed in 1970; (b) if so, the steps being taken to (a) whether Government havereopen the same in the interest of any proposal for setting up one indus production and employees; * try in every backward District in the .country: and (c) wtiether workers cooperative has demanded that it should be hand ed over to their cooperative, and if '(b) if so, facts thereof with parti so, whether Government have consi cular reference in West Bengal? dered the proposal; and (d) the dedsioa taken thereon? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA); (a) ANASARI): (a) No, Sir. to (d). The Bharat Barrel and Drum Manufacturing Co. Pvt., Bombay, was closed from 1st November, 1971. Gov for the purpose of making a full and Complete investigation into the cir t a w m * * n # cumstances of the case, on 18th Sep HPIfrtplW IWI'fl) : (ff) 3ft, tember, 1972 A Writ Petition has, ft I however, been filed by the Company on which Court Orders have been passed restraining the Committee from («r) i making its final Report Following closure of the unit the Employees’ (*t) 3ft, $T i w ^T*r% *fr Union had made a bid to take over the Management of the Company, but was srm fft ^TT Tft ^ I unsuccessful, and hence they had re presented that Government should («r) wt, $t i take over the Company Government have been taking necessary steps to contest the case which is stm sub- judice w W h W , 5ft fiwft % % fire* w to 7054. *ft (w?) vK a cft, 1 9 7 4 «rr£t ?rr»fr H i fc??rt % f W % ( t ) OT^t ffT*ft?ft*T *TOT, fcF?fr 2 W t ^ 20 mfS5IT % ^nNr^fr w p % f^ns^r ^rr^t ?rnft- €rw srrcfa ? p t srrsr e r ?*? m < n i *rf «ft, fa*TT tot gwt s*t ?tto ^rrsr ^ pt fa*r (5ST) $T, ?Tr 5*% TcTtr faef fwfrr * t ; «*rf«KWr> S%m\ *WT «wrr fjrarfa vnfrnft qrt »rf , (^r) wifra?% ^^nvr »ptt % sftr *rm% sr>w *tr (*f) m 'T&ZT, 1973 W *ft «h: v r tittito w % * % 4 ^ jt f ^ m fw - qrf »rf «ft- far» snft w t Twt ftnftgp ^ s^rm (»t) ^ ft, ^ft wyfwtft «ftTT y n I vftx w t f r o finrrfta tot fa n tot T't »rf | ? (* ) wt T O ?m m T srTtf irwtir iWIWf W ill w w W iwW (^ t v m t t ) (v )% (* r). *rrfc*r it* % «rwrm v * i*rtfr«ft - 1* » AUowtiMi tor Mint— Needs RAM BIR SXNHA): There is no such V rognm m t dufef If74-W proposal under consideration of Gov ernment at present. 7055. SARDAR MOH1NDER SINGH GILL: Will the Minister of PLAN NING be pleased t0 state-. wWT UWWI n HHwl WIT f f jjp w WUrtWI % VSVP1! % (a) whether allocations for the Minimum Needs Programme for the W* w ff vwfti m first year of the Fifth Five Year Plan m m have been kept quite low; and 7057. (b) if so, the reasons for the same? sm# f t im fa : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ( t ) qt# jfmT $ THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING srtf'WT sflr i n r ^ r ^rsnfrnff % (SHRI MOHAN DHARIA): (a) and ^TT°T % TTSzmx faTPTt tSRTffar (b) An outlay of Rs. 197.71 crores is envisaged in 1974-75 for the Minimum Needs Programme of all States which constitutes 9.3 per cent of the total (sr) w t p * f t src*nfo?r outlay approved for States for this apT 55ftTT year. The outlay for the Minimum Needs Programme in 1974-75 has been determined in consultation with the starci varFm % r m («ft State Governments after taking into *rt&r *rft*nr) : (^ ) ftrareft x m frff m (a) vwbether there it utter dlamar «* the listeners far Hie pert lew months 9WR1 that the prices of wheat are not being indicated in the loodg?aing price list 7058 . 9h WWlhT iftffTC : TOT daily broadcast by the Bhopal Station fiw w v f r ^ arcn% ^ of All India Radio, (b) whether the AIR are not receiv ing the rates of wheat from the con (?f) ^rr * ?§ srffHcf i i t * THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE *rc€r reefr I , *rft MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR SINHA) (a) No such reaction (»t) *rfc ft, ?ft fr^ft ? has been conveyed to Government ’rfVwH^ms ftrffTff fr«n Rwih fftr (b) and (c) Broadcast of wheat W lfW »fcft («ft gigram) : pnccs was discontinued with effect from 12th May, 1973, in order to (^ ) w t s t r tfw rc, avoid confusion while procurement j f t s R t r f t T p j % srarnr n of wheat was on m different parts of $£ stct^ ^ *fafa -n vfa s rw t h itt the country fopm fa*W (rr^oWT^ofrcJfto) ^ a m rfH sr«frr % ^ 5ft *rf 1 1 TT*t *r fa fr t e r f 3TT?fr & 1 fasTO ^ marr r a 9%3T ¥ t *fr3f*T fa |t ?Pt rsnsftem t t r ^ f r | 1 f o s R % mr^icT z w t m m % 7 061 . : TOT vfrr *tt*tt^ rT^% ^ g iro wK qrprr tiW w farm nat ^ w n snor £ 1 f a : (’i ) 7> $r i ( * ) tot *t®t ( « ) ®rftr $r, w Non-coverage of the Prices »f Wwrt in the Foodgralns Price List Broadcast tot I ’ by A I.R., Bhopal liWWHff r «* w ihhw if ttto 7060 SHRI RANA BAHADUR w ) :(v)«k(«r). StNGH Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD ^ r r v * z£ t * r | ?WT «h t ^ CASTING be pleased tor atate: ^ xw €t ^W V» 121 Written AMWers CHAITRA 27, 1808 (SAKA) Written Answers izz I m m af U m m m to Monopoly B o w * («l) how many murder cases, are being investigated by (c) While giving the M.R.T.P. clea (*t) ft, at *f*tt §■ rance in such cases it is generally CT«IT % frPT TfT^TfT laid down that the loans from public «nt Tft | ? financial institutions shall be subject to the right of the correctibUity clause. The clearance is also general ft f w t w ly subject to appropriate conditions (sft 3*0 tito x m ) : ( v ) ft (*r). designed to control the concentration iff snr w&pw at* tfr of economic power. W m % | I fao, ft aiS ^ w m % MttSrder eases investigated by C.B.I. 5TR *FT ^TT^T 1973 ft SRH I« t i % fcrcfa 7068. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS % VTT»T VS qfoifrHl % MUNSI: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: $ ft ft |HT I Written Answer* APRIL 17, 18*4 - Written Anuotrs 124 tw W nwnfiw ft witHw %f if atftafr* qwiatf *> **nftw w t ffe ir .«b% % % trrafofeir 1 7065* aft w | n N f m w t qW ?W % 3WTW % fat* qPTT WW1T *ni JRTT^ fiTT Twjfaft (griTsfcr) S$*nr*rmF!T f a : m m 3TT t$t ^ 1 ..... **• ■: (v ) wm $frnrtfa (9 ) «wt s ^ r r m f w r w- 7066. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: q w W tft Pim T sfTT^r *>r |; Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (*r) *rfc $r, eft vr *n=snr if (a) the names of the towns ixx Gujarat where curfew was imposed Ti^*nrR foSt srft sn% H*cnfa?r during the period between 7th Janu STTfa*? WT g OTT W tfRRJ if ary, 1074 and 28th February, 1074; and inr cff irt ^rawT^t »pft t ? (b) whether firing and other acta of «*TT TOTS* if TTW-*WV (site police repression go on unabated in srr fa*) : (*) 3f$r ^t that State even after imposition of President’s rule? 3H W I *ri*TT qi?TT | , ^ ?TT2fi*!lfd+ if «rfa*7 qaft ?rc Opestaf el M l M w in Ortaa lur Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL ing Foartii Plan DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: 7070. SHRI BANAMALI BABU: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA (a) whether National Small Indus, try Corporation give loans for Hire TIONS be pleased to state: Purchases; (a) whether the target of opening (b) if so, total amount sanctioned* of Post Offices in Orissa State for the by the Hire Purchase Division of fourth Plan has been fully achieved; National Small Industries Corporation and State-wise during the last three years; and (b) if not, what is the shortfall; (c) whether these amounts were and the reasons for Hie same? utilised for indigenous manufactured machines and if so. industry-wise in* formation thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (PROF. SHER SINGH); (a) Yes, Sir. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE (b) Does not arise. LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) and (b). No direct loan assistance is given by N.S.I.C. to entrepreneurs. Only machinery is supplied on hire purchase basis to Recasting 0I Annual Plan for West small scale entrepreneurs. Value of Bengal for 1974-75 machinery supplied during the last thtee years (State-wise) is given in the statement laid on the Table of 7071. SHRI SAKTI KUMAR the House. [Placed in Library. See SARKAR: Will the Minister of No. LT-6724|74] PLANNING be pleased to state; (c) Both imported and indigenous machines were supplied by N.S.I.C. (a) whether the West Bengal Gov Details for the last three years are as ernment was asked to recast its an follows: nual plan for 1974-75; and (Rs. in lakhs) (b) if so, the main features of the Year Imported Indigenous Total State’s annual plan before and after recasting a6 desired by the Planning 1971-72 779*5 90-5 1070* 0 Commission? 1972-73 • 769*5 146*0 915*5 1973-74 . 342*34 164*28 506*62 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Upto MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI Feb. 74) MOHAN DHARIA): (a) No, Sir. The industries for which the machine? were supplied are Mechanical, Elec. (b) Does not arise. Engineering, Surgical industries. 139 Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers i 3o Chemical Plaslic, Rubber and leather (to) the amount so allocated under based, Printing Stationery & Paper eadt of the H*k$ State-wise; and products, Textile Wearing Apparels, Food Products, Timber based, etc. (c) how far the basic needs o| the States are to be achieved? the; m in is t e r o f s t a t e in th e MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI ifwn (S’ST s & t) Sf w r t MOHAN DHARIA): (a) In 1974-75, % wwN the outlays for Minimum Needs Prog ramme have been determined, in con 7073. ’erfVfffrr SRTT? : WT sultation with the State Governments after due consideration of overall availability of resources for the Plan, ^ fo : inescapable requirements of various priority programme like those of ag ( * ) TOT SW * TT SHT?T 14*tH, riculture, irrigation, power, the time lag involved in preparatory work and 1974 % feF^fY % T>T mr^TK TO f the strengthening of the organisa "25 ^*1" % Sl'cPfa tional framework required for imple saprfsicT m m r tV srlr te m r m \ $ menting Minimum Need Program mes, etc. fsRT^r ^crrsrr tot | fa fa^r % t W t o t w t *r>tt % fw * (b) A statement furnishing State- wise and programmewise outlays on 2500 $TPft ^TTF 'f.’fSrO' % cTc^T Minimum Needs Programme for the sirer m t ; Annual Plan, 1974-75 is laid on the Table of the House. [Placed in Libra ( s ) irk ft, m rTc?n^V ^ ^ ry. See No. LT-6725/74] *r t I ; sfh: (c) A systematic effort in the An nual Plan 1974-75 is being initiated (»r) tot n v m tt f5RK taa to meet the basic needs of the States ir ^ t r tt% t t | ? through the various schemes tinder the National Programme of Minimum «W H w fir m w o t if Tiwr Needs as well as the other program mes included in the Fifth Plan. n*fr («ft *V<> t r i) : ( t ) *ft, fr I (*a) ?r«rstw f r f t 3t t | *HflT T75T »TT T S f & 3^ 3*1 I Settingvp ef FtfUls Beeter M a fe fce in Bihar during Fifth FU» (*r) tag if Tt«r (»5mr) t t 7075. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD Trcsrrr m f t t t t>$ ^ 1 1 VERMA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be Allocations to States under ABnimua pleased to state: Needs M c m m In 1HM4S (a) whether keeping in view of the 7074. SHEI SUKHDEO PRASAD industrial backwardness of the State VERMA: Will the Minister of of Bihar, Government would consider PLANNING be pleased to state: to set up more industries in the pub lic aector in the State during the Fifth (a) the basis for allocation of funds for each of the States in the fifst year fiv e Year Plan; Ind of the Fifth Five Year Flan under the fb) if so, the broad outlines there* minimum needs programme; of? 358 LS— 5. 131 W ritten Answers APRIL 17, 1874 Written Answers 132 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE profit or wage increase per man per MINISTRY Off INDUSTRIAL, DEVE year LOPMENT (SHRI M B RANA). (a) and (b) The names of Central industrial and mineral projects to be set up during the Fifth Flan m the mu srlsr 3 it? tiffi % fw* totoi various (States, including Bihar, along- with their locations and outlays (to the extent decisions have been taken), 7077. WWW : W are indicated at pages 151—155 (Vol II) of the Draft Fifth Plan Docu ifarci qefr rn ^ ment fa ( *» ) «r it *rszr afcnr « < + k ?T Factories in States %?g faOT | fa fsRT % «|W«T qfrTCT % 7076 SHRI DHARNIDHAR DAS Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL r m v 11 fa*ft * DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE SJTTWR faEfT 3T^r snV w r AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to 3*RT SI’RTW 9XVR «F faRrTTnfH state (a) the number of registered indus tries in the country State-wise show ( g ) §t, ^>3rt ing the number of persons engaged in w f w t sfafajrr f ? each State; (b) the total investment and profit VtiPTT TFRT earned showing the proportion of the «n fW ) : (^r) §r 1 private public and co-operative sectors dunng the last three years, and (3 ) srfcm f^ n (c) the rate of profit and wage-in- 3TRT I I crease per man per year? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRA- MANIAM) (a) to (c) “The Annual 7078. r t t t Survey of Industries, 1868 for factory r sector (large and small Scale)” which fwrrc fftr sfWrtfhfvt c# *tt !Wt ftfUW North Eastern region States during the plan period State-wise; j I I M (# 3^ ) J (b) number of industrial estates and (v ) ^rr, w tt i sheds as on the 31st December, 1973 in these States; and ( * ) *ftr (»r) w ^ (c) proposed amount for industrial estates and sheds during the Fifth Five Year Plan period? Delay in disbursing -subsidy lor units In W wt Bengal THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE 7079. SHRI S. N. SINGH DBO: LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN "Will the Ministeh of INDUSTRIAL ANSARI): (a) and (b) if so, reasons therefor? 7081. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHRI RAMACHANDRAN MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE KADANNAPPALLI: LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANiSARI): (a) Yes, Sir. Some delay Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL in disbursing the sanctioned amount DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE is taking place. AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to (b) One of the reasons for delay in stat?: inherent in initial stages of executive (a) whether M/s: H. A. Siamons any new scheme. This scheme being collaboration of National Industrial connected with financial sanction, Development Corporation which is Hie procedure is to be streamlined, exper technical consultants of Hindustan tise for implementing the scheme to Paper Corporation has withdrawn b? trained and administrative orga from the agreement; and nisation to be strengthened before it takes-off. (b) if so, the reasons and how far it will delay the Kerala Project of H.P.C. and alternate step taken by Allocation of Fund for Industrial Government to expedite the project? Estate and sheds in North Eastern region in Fifth Plan THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 7080. SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO: TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL MANIAM): (a) and (b). Messrs, H. DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE A, Simons have expressed their opi AND TECHNOLOGY he pleased to nion to consider this Agreement as state: nullified in view of the divergent in terpretation of some of the clauses. (a) total amount sanctioned for theN.I.D.C. however, is continuing to industrial estates and sheds in the clear up the various issues. This is 135 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers 136 not likely to delay the Kerala News Projects of Srience and fpflHsftlogy print Project of H P C for which taken up by National «oapJ*tep HJP.C. and N.I.D.C. are jointly tak on Science and Techndlogy ing all steps ahead with the project as scheduled 7083 SHRI NAWAL KISHORK SHARMA* Setting up of an Advanced Tele SHRI R V SWAMINATHAN communication Training Centre r . n , 708a. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND SHARMA* Will the Minister of TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state* COMMUNICATIONS b© pleased to state (a) whether the National Committee (a) whether there is * proposal on Science and Technology has taken under the consideration of Govern up some projects of science and tech ment to set up an advanced level nology in some specified fields; Telecommunication Training Centre and if so, the location of the training centre, (b) if so, the main features of these projects, with particular reference to medicine, drinking water in the coun (b) whether the Centre would be try, to be taken on priority basis by set up with the indigenous know.how the N.C.S.T.; and or with fbreign collaboration and if so, the facts thereof, and (c) the expected benefits to be (c) whether some units of N.C.S.T. derived therefrom’ are proposed t0 be set up in Rajas than, if so, their proposed locations? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OP COMMUNICATIONS (PROF SHER SINGH) (a) Yes, THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL there is a proposal to set up an Ad DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND vanced Level Telecommunication TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRA- Training Centre at Ghaziabad. MANIAM): (a) to (c) The NCST has prepared a Draft Science and Techno (b) The Advanced Level Telecom. logy Plan covering 24 sectors of na Training Centre would be set up with tional economy which includes prog- the assistance ol UNDP. The UNDP rammesjproipcts involving use of contribution will cover the pay of science and technology for the attain foreign experts and the imported ment of national goals Copies of the equipment and the Government of Draft S & T Plan have already been India contribution will cover the cost laid on the Table of the Lok Sabha of other project personnel, indigenous The projects m the field of medicine equipment and the land and building are included in the Health, Chemical required for this Centre Industries and Natural Resources sec tors of the Plan, those pertaining to (c) The Advanced Level Telecom drinking water are included in sectors Training Centre will provide facilities like Fuel & Power, Housing, Urbani for the training of senior engineering sation and Construction Technology staff of P&T and ol otker Telecom Chemical Industries. Some «* the pro* munication Administrations in the jects (Wind Mills, beneflciation of ECAFE Region to the In-service Low Grade lock phosphate for exam courses, advanced level courses and pie) are proposed to be located in instructors’ training courses. Rajasthan, 137 Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SA K A ) Written Answers 138 *«ndinf applications from Kajastfean for establishing cement factories in !6r setting up of Cement Industries the country pending With the Minis try and for how long? SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHASMA; Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY bo LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): At pleased to state. present there are 91 applications (a) how many applications for pending final disposal for the grant of licence for setting up cement indus licences for setting up cement facto tries in Rajasthan are pending; ries. The position of the applications is as under:— (b) the outlines of such applications and by what time applications would Year No. of be cleared; and applications pending (c) the total number of such ce ment factories envisaged during the 5th Plan in Rajasthan? 1971 4 1972 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2 MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE 1973 17 LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANAi): *a) and (b). Three cement applications 1974 . 8 as detailed below for setting up ca Total 31 pacity foe production of cement in the State of Rajasthan have been con sidered by the Licensing Commitee and final decision are expected to be Growth rate during 1990-71 and taken shortly. 197172 Nanttof Location Capacity 7086. SHRI BISWANARAYAN Party SHASTRI: Will the Minister of 1 Shri Mf'han Bilara 4.06 lakh tonnes PLANNING be pleased to state: T *\ Jam •2 Billy Jute T ojaf 4.00 lakh tonnes Co. Road (a) whether the growth rate during 3 Raymord Modak f .00lakh,, the year 1971-72 was 1.7 peg cent as Woolen Jtfills against 5.4 per cent during the pre vious year; and (c) Three new cement plants and •expansion of ctoe existing cement (b) the reasons for the low growth plant are expected to materialise Vate? v during the Fifth Plan period. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 'n ' 4 * MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI Pending applications for setting up of MOHAN DHARIA): (a) The growth Cement Plants rate of national income during the year 1971-72 was 1.7 per cent as 7085*>SHEl NAWAL KISHORE against 4.2 per cent during the pre SHARMA: Will the Minister of vious year. INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ANDi SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be (b) The lower rate of increase was mainly the result of a fall in th* ^ plications for 'Jicexice agricultural sector ia 1971-72. 39 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written An&ytert 140 Fak Nationals Staying In Aidla on this cell is looking after the problem Long-term Visas of planning for the Western Ghats area. The Multilevel Planning Sec tion, of which the Hill Areas Cell is an integral part, is concerned with 708 7. SHRI S H ANKB RAO 8 the problems of backward arleas in SAVANT: Will the Minister of Maharashtra and other States. While HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: the provision of funds and taking operational steps for accelerated deve (a) th« number of Pakistani na lopment of backward areas is primari tionals staying in India at present on ly the responsibility of the concerned long-term visas, Statewise; State Governments, this Section is charged with the responsibility for (H) whether any restrictions have laying down of guidelines, providing been put on the movement and activi technical assistance for formulating ties of such visa-holders; and plans for their accelerated develop ment and scrutinising proposals re (c) the number of visa-holders sus ceived from the State Governments. pected of anti-Indian activities during Maharashtra has identified 6 districts 1971-72, 1972-73 and 1973-74? as economically backward viz. Chanda, Yeotmal, Prabhani, Hhir, JNanded, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and Ornanabad. The other Divisions MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS of the Planning Commission also pro (SHRI F. H MOHSIN) • (a) to (c) vide such assistance a« is found ne The information is being collected and cessary. will be laid on the Table of the House. (b) The general strategy and ap Cell for Development of Hilly and proach regarding the problems of Backward Areas in Maharashtra backward and hilly areas have been spelt out in Chapter 14 of the Draft Fifth Five Year Plan already laid on 7088. SHRI SHANKERRAOthe Table of the House. For dealing SAVANT- Will the Minister of with the hill areas of the Western PLANNING be pleased to refer to the Ghats region, a committee has been reply given to Unstarred Question constituted under the Chief Minister No. 570 on 25th July. 1973 regarding of Maharashtra which will inter alia Cells for backward and Hill areas and go into 'the question of a systematic state: identification of the Western Ghats region and evolve thereafter the fu (a) which hilly and backward areas ture lines of action. in Maharashtra are being looked alter by this cell; and (b) the specific proposals made by Distribottoa of etm nl this cell to deal with the problems of such areas? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 7080. SHRI SHANKERRAO MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT be MOHAN DHARIA) • (a) The Hill pleased to state: Areas Cell is primarily concerned with the problems of the HiU Areas which are parts of larger States. In (a) how long is the shortage of so far as Maharashtra is concerned, cement expected to continue; I 4i W ritten Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 14a (b) arrangement* made to stream tion price is fixed by the Central line the diitritoatian at cement to Government for all rail destinations avoid black-marketing, profiteering while under clause 10 of the Order, and adulteration; the State Governments are empowered to fix the wholesale and retail price (c) whether Government are aware of cement within the State. Cement that the present system of distribu has also been declared as an essential tion of cement through the agents of commodity for purposes of the Es cement companies is causing great sential Commodities Act 1955. Sale hardship to the consumers; and of adulterated cement contravenes the provisions of the Cement (Quali (d) if so, the steps taken to avoid ty Control) Order 1962 issued under this hardship? ty Control) Order, 1962 issued under THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE The Essential Commodities Act, 1955, MINISTRY OF BflWrSTRIAL DEVE requested to issue orders under the LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) Essential Commodities Act regulating to (d). The present installed/licensed the distribution of cement by issue of permits, licensing of dealers, stockists capacity of the cement industry in the country is 9*76 million tonnes etc. Necessary powers, under this ordinarily capable of giving a produc Act, are available to the State Gov tion of about 17 million tonnes on the ernments for proceeding against un basis' of £5 per oent utilisation of social elements. capacity. The actual production is, however, about 15 million tonnes only due to power cuts, inadequate supply Appointment of technocrats as secre- of railway wagons and coal, labour tarU* strikes etc. While every effort is be te MMsMsp ing made to overcome these cons traints, it is estimated that the shor 7090. SHRI SHANKERRAO SA tage of cement will continue to exist VANT: Will the PRIMS MINISTER in Some measttH during the early be pleased to state: years of the Fifth Plan period. To distribute equitable the avail (a) whether Government have taken able quantities of cement quotas a decision that technocrats may be have beeto fixed for each State for appointed as Secretaries of Ministries; the period July, 1973 to June, 1974 and at 110 per cent of the average com- sumption of cement in each State (b) which Ministries or Depart during the preceding ftve years. These ments have technical persons as quotas are exclusive of the require Secretaries or Additional Secretaries? ments of the Central Government Departments for works within a parti cular State which are met separately THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE by the Central Government Alloca MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND tions are made strictly in accordance IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PER with the recommendations made by the SONNEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIR- State Government against the bulk DHA): (a) Posts of Secretary/Addi quotas allotted to them. tional Secretary are filled by selection on merit from among eligible persons The price and distribution of ce (both technical and admfofcrtrative) ment is regulated under the provisions keeping in view the job requirements. of the Cement Control Order 1967, Taohn*cal officers ar* already eligible as amended fr<*n time to time. Under to fee considered for such appoint this Order, a uniform f.o.r. destina ments. *43 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Armours *44 (b) In posts of Secretary'( Including a ^MDWTO»€i»^ATBlNTHi: ex-ofReio Secretaries)* mmamx jmmmQ (mm MOHAN DHAPUA& Ministry of Communications proposal to abondon implementation Ministry of Heavy Industry of the Minimum Needs Programme. Department of Electronics Cb) Does m t arise* P(c) frhe outlay for tfte Minimum Department of Science and Techno* logy Jfefcd*! Ptog^aqame in 1874-75 of all States is Rs. 197.71 croreB, which re Department of Atomic Energy presents 8£4 per cepRt of the States* total approved Annual Plan (1974-75). Department of Agricultural Research and Education Ministry of Defence (Defence Re Industrial 1 to IMQ Nato search) 7093. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: Department of Space Will tike Minister of INDUSTRIAL Ministry of Irrigation & Power DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND Department of Mines TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: Ministry of Industrial Development (a) whether Tamil Nadu has suf (Technical Development) fered due to the power cut imposed in the month of February and March. Ministry of Railways 1974; In pfats «mT Additional Secretary (b) whether most o i th* industries (including ex-officio Additional Sec retary): have stopped working as a result thereof; Ministry of Irrigation & Power (c) if so, to ivfast eorttnt it has Ministry of Shipping and Transport affected the industrial production in Ministry of Railways the State; and (d) the steps being taken to im prove the position o f power? EOmfotton at M THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 7031 SHRI DHAMANKAR: Will DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND the Minister of PLANNING be pleased TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- to state: MANIAM). (a) to (d) Due to the t lower availability of power m Tamil (a ) whether ‘Garibi Hatao* plan is Nadu since middle of 1973, the con being scuttled by almost abandoning sumption of power in the State has the *Mtniftum Needs Programme’ had to be restricted. Consequently whidb was taken to be a frontal attack industries in the State have been to on poverty; some extent adversely affected. It is, (b) if 90, what alternate steps are however, not postfble to identify the proposed to be taken to eliminate extent to which industrial production poverty; and has suffered solely on account of in adequate power supply. Ministry of (c) whether the allocations for the Irrigation and PbWef has taken several Needs Programme? for the measures to improve the power sup first year of the Fifth Flan are mere ply position to the extent possible, ly » per cent of the tottt outlay of Including supply of some power from the Kerala. ' 145 WTttttn Answers CHAXTRA 27, 1896 < SAKA) Written Answers 146 Settenttare M l In M M ^ ' Tfl«-MJNIStEER OFcSTAWtN THE MINISTRY' OS; COMMUNICATIONS 709 4. SHRI R. V . SWAMINATHAN: fFTl’GF. SHER SINGH): (a) A state Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL ments showing waiting list as on 1-4- DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 19~4 wiiter O.Y.T. General and Spe TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: cial categories is laid on the Table ol the House,, [Place In Library. See No. (a) the number of persona on the 2000 lines will also be added to Jan- waiting lists for the provision of path exchange for replacement of old telephone connections under O.7.T. equipment of Connaught Place E » qnd other categories In Delhi (In change. cluding New B e M Ebcchange-wise as on the 1st April, 1974; Upper age limit ter eompetittre exa (b) the lest date and number of minations conducted b y U.P.S.C, far registration which has been covered appointment to class 1 service! so far, Exchange-wise; 7096. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will (c) the steps taken or proposed to the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to he taken to provide connections to state: the persons registered under Gene ral *nd Special Categories, Exchange- (a) whether the upper age limit wise; and for the competitive con* ducted by U.P.S.C. for appointment (d) the number of telephone con to Class I services in the Central nections whieh would be added to Government is the same tor all; the telephone network o f Delhi Tele (b) If so, whether for IAS, IFS, phone District daring Hue current IPS and other Central Services the financial year, Sschange^KseT qualification required is simply gra- W ritten Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers 148 duatioa and the Undtim » W b w - ajptiqabte tq the Engineering Services mg Services the qualification requi Examination held ifi 11fti sfcd 1973 red is graduation in Engineering and thQ Engineering Services (Elec which require two more academic tronics) Exaarilnation 1873 and 1974. years than simply graduation; It has however been recently decided to continue the enhanced upper age (c) if so, whether fixing the upper limit for the Engineering Services age limit of 26 year* for both kind* Examination for one more year i.e. of services ia not a disadvantage to for the examination to be held in the Engineering Graduates; and 1974. (d) whether Government propose The question of continuing the en to make any change ia this regard? hanced age limit as mentioned above, for the various competitive examina THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE tion held by the U.P.SC. for recruit MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND ment t0 Clasf I Engineering Services IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON or suitably modifying the same will NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): be considered by Government after a (a) The U.P.S.C. conducts several review of the results achieved by en separate competitive examinations for hancing the age limit from 1972, appointment to Class I Services in the Central Government and the upper age limit for such examinations Share of Public and private sectors In different for different examinations. Electronics Industry (b) to (d). It is correct that the 7097. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will qualifications required for admission the Minister of ELECTRONICS be to competitive examinations held by pleased to state: the UP.S.C. for requirement to IAS, IFS, IPS and other Central Services, (a) whether the electronics indus is University Degree and for the Indian try has grown rapidly with the parti Engineering Service Examination, the cipation of both public and private qualification required is graduation m sectors; engineering. (b) if so, what is the total valua On the basis of the recommenda tion of the production in 1972-73 as tions made by the Administrative Re- a whole and the ehare percentage of both sectors, separately; and ftrmsT' Commission the upper age limit for admission to the IAS etc. (c) whether the share percentage examination has been raised from 24 is in the *ame proportion as outlays to 26 years with effect from the 1972 on both the sectors? examination. As regards the Engi neering Services Examination, the THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER normal upper age limit prescribed for OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF admission to this examination was 25 ELECTRONICS AND MINISTER OF years. However, in order to improve SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GAN the employment opportunities for DHI): (a) Yes, Sir. those who had passed the engineering courses during the period of stagna (b) The total value of production of tion in economy, the Prescribed upper the Electronics Industry in 1972-73 age limit for admission to posts which was Rs. 206 crores of which the are filled on the results of Engineer public sector and private sector ing Services Examinations and the En accounted for 50 per cent each. gineering Services (Electronics) Examination conducted by the U.P.S.C, (c) The ratio of the total outlays in was raised to 30 tor a period of two the public sector (equity end loans) years. In particular, the enhanced to the private sector for the period upper e#e limit of 39 years was made 1961 to 1971 was 45:55. 149 Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 150 A e UmntBi of targets In feed yro- T/ie shortfall in industrial production Aaotfton lt d Industrial prodnotloa fta du-mg the Fourth Plan period may be M Pin attributed to a variety of factors e.g. shortage of raw materials, inadequate growth in industrial investment, 7098. iSHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will shortage of power, transport bottle the Minister of PLANNING be pleased necks, industrial unrest, lack of co to state: ordination and proper management. (a) whether pur planners fad that the Fourth Plan has ended with sta ble price* in the country; (b) whether food production growth Cultural Meet of P. & T. Department and industrial production growth have achieved the targets envisaged in the Plan; and 7099. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (c) if not, the Shortfalls, if any, be pleased to state: and the reasons therefor? (a) whether the AH India Posts THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Telegraphs Department held its MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI Cultural Meet, the 19th of its kind, MOHAN DHARIA): (a). In the first in Jaipur towards the end of March, three years of the Fourth Plan the 1974; and prices increased moderately but in the subsequent two years—1972-73 and 1973-74—there has been sharp (b) if so, the facts thereof and the rise in the price level. relation of its Cultural Meet with the different activities or workings of this Department? (b) and (c). Production of food- grains in 1973-74 is estimated around THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 110 million tonnes against the Fourth MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Plan target of 129 million tonnes. (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a). The 19th Besides the set-back caused by wide All India P&T Cultural Meet was spread drought conditions in 1971-72 held at Jaipur under the auspices of and 1972-73 and the uneven progress Rajasthan P&T Regional Sports Con made by the high yielding varieties trol Board from 27th to 29th March, programmes for different food crops, 1974. the production in 19T3-74 has been adversely affected by the shortage of key inputs such as chemical fertili (b) Sports and Cultural activities sers, pesticides, electric supply for form important part of welfare prog irrigation and lack of rains and oc ramme of the P&T Department. These currence of frost in the rabi season. activities are organised under the auspices of the P&T Sports Control As against the Fourth Plan target Board with {Is Headquarters at New of an average rate of growth of 8 to Delhi which comprise Sr. Officers 10 per cent the average increase in of the Department as also staff industrial production in the first four representatives. The Central Board years of the Fourth Plan was around has constituent units at the Regional & per cent per annum. It is not possible levels which organise these activities to indicate at this stage the extent of in the P&T Circles. All India P&T increase in the industrial production in Cultural Meet Is being held every year 1373-74 due to lack of complete data. at different Circles Headquarters *51 Written Answers APRIL 17, l$U Written Answers, in which . not only the P&T -ai* k m i m stall but even the members of their *U i'/i :r, families participate. The activities of January'to D&twber, 1973 this type help to promote fellow feel ing among the P&T staff and give them an opportunity of recreational No.of Machines diversion to refresh themselves States applications delivered received j No. vtfaes to shoulder their official responsibi in Rr Laldis lities. .. *120 :' 68 36-11 Andhra Prade*Hir- 1 16 90 25-52 K*WM ■ :■ 5 . *9 18*69 Karnataka 86 s.6 26" 46 AWHMttm Mr hfci parchase of m a d * * m M by BRllO L « . Pondichery • .•fr - T^ahacashtra, . 86*20 2 46 5» 7100. SHRI AKJUN SETHI: Wil Gujarat 5 25 45-46 Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE Madhya'Pradesh* 2° r*4 6*06 TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: Goa •• 4 13*35 West Bengal 420 4i 18*75 (a) the number of applications re Bihar) 1026 3-68 ceived by the National Small Indus 5 tries - Corporation Ltd., State-wise Astern 4 12 4 66 during the year 1971 ; Orissa 416 I 1*52 Manipur • • 2 0-25 (b) the total number of machines ■and its cost in rupees advanced to Tripura •• each of such States; and Anda man & Niocbar .. Meghalaya I Refusal of Awaid «f Padma Shri . $EptI ,SHRIKISHAN MODI: Will, the Minister of HOME AF FAIRS he pleased to state: 7102. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD (a) the tofet number of political MANDAL: WiB the Minister of HOME spies htfd in Kashinir for sabotage AFFAIRS be bteased to state* and subversive activities in the border areas of Jammu and Kashmir dur (a) whether one of the recipients ing the last two years; of Padma Shri award on Republic Day had refused to accept the same; (b) whether any revolvers of fore and ign made, cartridges and hand gerna- des were recovered from them; and (b) if so, the reasons therefor? (c) if so, the facts thereof? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS THE MINISTER OF HOME (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) and (b). AFFAIRS (SHRI UMA SHANKAR Two of tfie recipients of Padma Shri D1KSHIT): (a) to (c). Government Awards announced on the last Repub have no information of the arrest of lic Day have refused to accept the any “political Spy” in J&K. However, same on personal grounds. according to information furnished by the Government of Jammu and Kash mir 96 persons were arrested for spy ing for Pakistan in border areas of Ban on Movement of Hippies Jammu and Kashmir during the years 1972, 1973 and January, 1974. Three revolvers and some ammunition were recovered from these spies 7103. SHRI £. MALLANNA: SHRI GAJADHAR MAJHL* Suggestions of FICO for fadntaali Will the Minister of HOME AF production FAIRS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Indian Council of 7105. SHRI P. GANGADEB: Social Welfare has suggested imposi SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD tion of ban on the hippies' movement VERMA; in India, which have brought ‘cor Will the Minister Of INDUSTRIAL rupt influence* on our society; and DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to refer to (b) if so, the reectian of Govern the reply given to Unstarred Question ment in this regard? No. 1169 on the 27th February 1B74, regarding short term production plan THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and state: MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN): (a) and (b). (a) whether the suggestions made The information is being collected and by Federation of Indian Chambers of w ill be laid on the Table of the House, Commerce and Industry have since recovered from these spies. been considered; and (b) if not, the reasons txersfar? Number ol poUtteal Spies hsld In THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Jwtoam sa g KNhmftr for srte ta st end MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE NHVIIHV 9 lUUUVIW LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) and (b). As part of the continuing dialogue between Government and 7101 SHRI P. GANGADEB: the Federation of Indian Chambers 155 Written Answer* APRIL 17, 1974 Written A>*u>erg 15$ a o f Commerce And Industry, meet f w TO 1 W % ^ w ing was held on 22nd Ifrreft, 1974 at New Delhi to discuss the improved « r A v t t v ^ r distrbution of certain selected com bttt * tstt m m *nf& fa w ro modities It was decided at this meet % ^cr ^rr ?t & ing to set up a Central Consultative Committee and to form separate xnar- stftreuft» «wre>ft m \ yi^OyfrfHreR ketting groups for each of the follow % 1 qfa w gnrcmfl y 1 ycr^rr^^T ing commodities, viz vapaspati, sugar, paper, tyres and tubes, cement,, bicy ^ ^ % TO?rc # gnptr f»?r «rc % cles and cotton textiles (controlled f a fa t f * p f f % spl¥T rt*TT \N t f i w t l varieties) vrorpft w ^n j m fk vfaftftW f w r o WIT ftflHR sAfTlPi^ «rft f t ?r^ftr it *rf 1 1 *TR(w) 1969«fk 1 972 m \ fa yaftpHrcrft ^smfr f t m *r rr farm 5rfa*Ttf ?q*ftor *r ^trt m j t^ r r Unw plftf** Doctors, Engineers, gkffl- immediate and long term relief to M m A IM dM U iMW l them? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 7107. SHRI JAGANNATHRAO JO MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI SHI: Will the Minister of FUANNING MOHAN DHARIA): (a) and (b): The bt- pleased to state: exact number of unemployed Doctors, Engineers, skilled and unskilled lab (a) the number of unemployed ourers at the beginning oi the First Doctors, Engineers, skilled and un Five Year Plan is not available, How skilled labourers at the beginning and ever the information regarding num end of the Fourth Plan, separately; ber of job seekers is Being compiled by the Directorate General of Em ployment and Training only since (b) their number at the beginning 1955. According to the information of First, Second and Third plans, se available with Directorate General parately; and of Employment and Training, the number of Doctors, Engineers and. un skilled labourers at the end of 1951, (c) steps being taken to provide 1955, 1960, 1968 and 1973 is At the end of the year Medidne ENGINEERING Uillnsked (Doctors) Granuates Diploma Total labouers including Holders Post-Graduates I December* 53 22s 1,087 N.A. 1,087 N.A. December’ 55 179 628 N.A. 628 N.A. December’ 60 262 1,190 N.A. 1,190 89.724 December’ 68 1,005 11,026 39,547 5°,573 1,05,393 December’ 73 (P) 6,107 23,203 55,706 78,909 2,68,889 Note: (i) P stands for Provisional. N. or has not acquired any skill for a A. stands for not available particular job, is defined as ‘unskilled (ii) Information regarding engi worker' and amongst these those who do purely manual type of work such neering diploma holders was not col lected before 1967; and as loaders, unloaders, coolies etc., are treated as ‘unskilled labourers*. How (iii) Information regarding unskil ever, there is no such category as led labourers has been collected from skilled labouareres as per National 1900 onwards. Classification of Occupations adopted by the Directorate General of Em Job seekers on the live registers of ployment and Training. And accor the employment exchange are classi dingly, it has not been possible to in fied on the bads of National Classifi dicate figures for 'skilled labourers’. cation of Occupations. According to the definition adopted under Hie National Classification of Occupations, (c) Employment objectives in the a person who has no formal training ••successive Five Year Plans laid stress 159 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers 160 cm provided at increasing employment opportunities and the labour intensive techniques to the extent possible con Commission shower, inter-alia, that sistent with other goals of economic out of 22808 engineering degree hold development and as and when special ers job seekers on the live register of problems arose fta certain areas or in employment exchanges as on 31st relation to special categories, Gov December, 1972 in the whole country, ernment took suitable remedial mea there were about 5000 such persons sures. In the Fourth Plan, besides who were found to be unemployed. the Plan programme* in the various It is expected that the situation would development sectors with an employ have improved further a* a result of ment basis which provided bulk ol the implementation of various Pro employment opportunities, certain grammes which gained considerable special measures were undertaken momentum in the latter half of 1973- for the uneducated as well as educa 74. In this connection it may also be ted persons including Doctors, Engi stated that while the number of engi neers, skilled and unskilled labourers. neering degree holders seeking jobs These are; (i) Programme for Edu showed an increase of 19.73 per cent cated Unemployed started in 1971-72; between end of December, 1971 to (ii) Special Employment Programme December 1972, the corresponding in for States and Union Territories start crease has been only 1.73 per cent ed in 1972-73; and (iii) The Half— between the end of December, 1972 to a—million Jobs Programme lor Edu end of December, 1973. As against this cated Unemployed started in 1973-74. for all categories of jobs seekers the growth rate was 35.20 per cent bet As a result of the implementation ween the end of December, 1971 and of the various P in a and epedal em end of December, 1972 and it declined ployment programmes the situation to 19.19 per cent between the end of of employment seems tc have consi December, 1972 to December, 1973. As derably improved amongst the engi regards the engineering diploma hol neering degree holders. A recent ders and doctors, the position of quick survey conducted during Aug growth rate of registrants is summa ust/September, 1973 by the Directo- rised below:— SI. Period Engineering Doctors diploma hol ders x. End of Dec., 1971 to end of Dec., 1972. 1069 32*93 2. Dec., 72 to Dec., 73. 6*92 16*21 It may further be noted, as stated were 5195 Primary Health Centres in above, that figures for 1973 are pro the country out of which 2010' had visional. only one doctor and 148 had no doctor at all. This shows that there were In the case of doctors, the problem 2296 vacancies of doctors & the Pri is not of unemployment but of mal mary Health Centres. distribution; it is estimated that while Redistributive growth is a major only 21.2 per cent of the doctors are objective of the Fifth Five Year ftaa. serving 80 per cent of the population The creation of addfoktt»a3 employ residing in rural areas, the corres ment opportunities is the principal ponding figures for urban areas are instrument of economic policy to 78.8 per cent and 20 per cent respec achieve this objective. Accordingly, tively. By 30th September, 1972 there emphasis has been given not only on 161 Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1806 (SAKA) Written Answers itz providing larger overall employment (sr) s fk but also efforts to create employment opportunities in the different sectors. «nr»Tfipff % vfavrfoff t i t srfar* TOT fe -jv £ ? Consideiabk> emp oyment is likely to be generated during the Fifth Plan for various categories through the fsnmr Implementation of different plan pro *ret («fr xm fa'arra fasf) : ( t ) grammes such as: large, medium and small scale industries, agriculture, soil tit? (sr). ^tmT ^em - •*. *j % conservation, major, modium and sfiT /nr sr c=t %t ^ % TZ'i : (ap) *T (*T).faa**F, ?Tcr*5H gr f^r^F. i97.i % TPrfi^ff % 7108. aft JTTC Tm : * n ^TPT 5TR^T*T srTT^ (|®- sr«rw sfsft ^ t i t f t t w in f r : sFTSFR^RT) % ®t*TM y r^rg^ fr ®pt stFw ot t« p t o v*>) *Ti 5TrT ntf ^rf^TT ^ ^ tit) arnor w ^ % tt| «fr i co 4 V R T ^ w f % ^ , f 3 f ^ trfw fkvr qti^TT?r «ff, 32 7 («r-j^fw 358 L. S.— 6. X63 W ritten Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers 164 I* 33 ?rSrer) led—trial G ffm ft C WflJ I 5IW?rfW8! % fw r m rtft 7111. SHRI N K. SANGHI: Will i v)Pf«w?nr ftstf; Tt the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND fWi ^qrOwffT *r|r Or t TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: 3T?r $*r cpF«rr ^ w e r 'T T T s m fr ^ (a) whether his Ministry has un "oScTT I dertaken an exercise to find out if the Fifth Plan industrial growth propo sals could be launched during 1974; Mining Scientists from Atomic Mine- mis Division, Bihar (b) if so, the findings thereof; and (c) to what extent the industrial growth will suffer if the plan is not 7110. SHRI N. K. SANGHI: Will launched during 1974-75 and the steps the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be being taken to ensure that at least in pleased to state: early 1975, it is launched? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether an atomic scientist MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE attached to the Atomic Minerals Di LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) vision, Turamdi Geological Camp in and (b). The implementation of this Bihar, has been missing since Octo Ministry’s Plan schemes included m ber, 1973; and the Draft Fifth Plan Document has already been initiated. The Plan bud get requirements for 1974-75 have (b) whether Government have been presented to the Parliament and made any enquiries into the matter vote on account to cover the expendi and if ao, the result of investigation? ture for April and May 1974, has al ready been approved THE PRIME MINISTER, MINIS TER OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINIS (c) Does not arise. TER OF ELECTRONICS AND MINI STER OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI): (a) Yes, Sir Shri Swnpan Kumar Sarkar, a Scien Shifting Of Telephones in Delhi tific Officer of the Atomic Minerals Division, who was posted at Turamdih Geological Exploratory Camp near 7112. SHRI N K SANGHI: Will Tatanagar (Bihar), proceeded on ca the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS sual leave on October 24, 1973 stating be pleased to state: that he had to go home due to some (a) the number of requests for urgent “domestic trouble” Shri shifting of telephones from one ad- Sarkar did not report back for duty diess to another within Delhi receiv thereafter. ed during the year 1973; (b) the average time taken by the (b) On receipt of information that department for shifting the telephone Shri Sarkar had not actually reached after the date of receipt of request; his home at Kumardhubi, the matter and was reported to the Police authorities and Police investigations are in prog (c) whether instances have come ress notice of Government that unduly 365 Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers 166 long time is taken in effecting such MOHAN DHARIA): (a) While pre shifting and what remedial measure* paring operational plans for accele are being taken to see that the task rated development of the hill areas i« affected within certain fixed is primarily the responsibility of the jjeriod? concerned States, the Hill Areas Cell is charged with the responsibility THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of providing methodological assistance MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS to the States for formulating these (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) 9352. plans and their scrutiny. (b) Average time taken for shifting At the instance of the Planning -telephones when technically feasible Commission, the State Governments is about one week. of Assam, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal have prepared sub-Plans for (c) Yes, about 980 cases ior shifts their hill districts. These are under .are pending either due to non-availa- examination. Tamil Nadu Govern hility of exchange capacity or non ment has already been advised to pre availability of underground cable pair. pare a sub-Plan for Nilgivi district. Efforts are being made to provide ad A Committee of Direction for U.P. ditional capacity either by addition of Hill Areas, set up under the Chair •equipment or area transfer. The cable manship of a Member of the Plan position in technically' non-feasible ning Commission, has constituted areas is being reviewed periodically various task forces/working groups and subject to availability of cables, and has initiated a number of fields measures to provide additional under surveys. A Committee of the concern ground cables are being taken. ed Chief Ministers has been set up to go into the question of identification of Western Ghats region and to evol ve thereafter the future lines of ac •Cell for development of Hill Areas in tion. Fifth Plan (b) The State Governments, who 7113. PROF. NARAIN GHAND are primarily responsible for for PARASHAR: Will the Minister of mulating operational plans, have PLANNING be pleased to refer to been advised to consult the represen the reply gives to Unstarred Ques tatives of the people in tihe process tion No. 570 on 25th July, 1973 re of plan formulaticu. The Cell is also garding cell for backward and hill advised to have consultations with areas and state: the representatives of the people as and when necessaxy. (a) the resume of the work done by the Cell so far; (c) The general strategy and ap (b) whether . the representatives proach regarding the problems of •of the people from hilly regions in backward and hill areas have been the Parliament have also been coo* spelt out in Chapter 14 of the Draft suited in the various activities of the Fifth Five Year Plan already laid on Cel), if not, the reasons therefor; and the Table of the House. The Hill Areas Cell would continue to provide '(c) the outlines of the schemes pro guidelines and technical assistance to posed to be taken up by the Cell dur the State Governments for formulat ing the Fifth Five Year Plan? ing plans for accelerated development of their hill areas and to scrutinise 'THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the proposals received from the State MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI Governments. 167 W ritten Answers APRIL 17, 1974 Written Answers 16& Cement actories F in J Jb K, Himachal Bllaspur, Bharoli-Kalan, Hamirpur, Pradesh, Punjab and Haryana Jangalbdiri, Dharmsala, Barot, Key- long, Udaipur, Tandi, Koksar, Battal, Kalpa, Sangla, Neechar, Marang, 7114 PROF. NARAIN CHAND Samdau. PARASHAR: Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT be (c) Completion of work will de pleased to state: pend upon availability of equipment and construction of buildings by the (a) the names of the places in State Government. The equipment Jammu and Kashmir, pimgcihai Pra has to be obtained from Bharat Elec desh, Punjab and Haryana which are tronics for which orders will be placed under consideration for setting up ol after sanction of the project estimat cement factories; and es The target date can be fixed only after approximate dates for comple (b) the progress made in each tion of these items of work are- case? known. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) Sanction of SJV.X. Telephone Exchan and (b).*A statement is laid on the ges in H. P, Table of the House. [Placed in Libra ry. See No. LT-6729|74]. 7116. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to Wireless Telegraph Circuits in H. P. state: (a) the number names of SAX 7115. PROF. NARAIN CHAND Telephone Exchanges sanctioned in PARASHAR: Will the Minister of Himachal Pradesh during 1973-74r COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to alongwith the dates of their sanction; state: (b) whether there are a few more such Exchanges which are under the (a) whether it is proposed to ins- consideration of the Department in tal Wireless Telegraph Circuits at Himachal Pradesh; and some places in Himachal Pradesh during the financial year 1974-75; (c) if so, the names of such Ex changes and the likely period by (b) if so, the names of places which they would be sanctioned? which are being considered for this purpose; and THE MINISTER OF (STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) the likely date by which these (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) Follow circuits would be established? ing three small automatic Telephone Exchanges in Himachal Pradesh werer THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sanctioned during 1973-74: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) Yes. It is proposed to instal wireless telegraph Date on stations in Himachal Pradesh cm basis Name of Exchange which of rent and guarantee by the State sanctioned Government. 1. Bhawarna . 8-5-73- (b) Names of the places under con sideration for this are as follows:— 2. Sawra . 19-2-74 Kulu, Malikaran, Sarahan, Chamba, 3. Chintpumi * *7-3-74 Kihar, Ntihalx, Sillai, Mandi, Janjhelli, X69 W ritten Answers CHAITRA 27, 1886 ( SAKA) Written Answers (b) Yes, Sir. (b) The installation of an automa tion, Telephone Exchage at Mandi, (c) The proposals for opening and which is scheduled for 1974-75 is expansion of S.A.Xs at the following likely to be delayed on account of ^places in Himachal Pradesh are under non-availability of a suitable build consideration and if found re-nume- ing. An automatic telephone exchange Tative these are likely to be sanction at Dharamsala is proposed to be ins ed progressively in a few years time: talled in 1976. 1.Kiari fq g f waff % gfaftfor % qift 2. Tikkar f w r 3. Chauntra 4. Gohar 7ii8. no vRRtsnrm ttt farrm ^ 3cn%t Y 5. Matiana FTT fo : 6 Barotiwala M m 7. Barot ( t ) trt srqf % % fcrei ^ 'f IT qWtfnr 8 .Indora T srta'Tfarr % fan 9. Jeori 5pqTf^r W. ; sftT 10. Chopal («a) Scfo $ fccRT 11. Dulebar f?re*r fo n w srk stY’t 12. Rawlakiar | ? 13. Dehab fvvror *farfw tivrt 14. Nagadhar tr^o rwrr) : (t ) sfrc 35. Gaura (*a). it *trt *nc va f^r 16. Kotkhai ^ t » [WTW *rqr t fort 17. Kumarsain. fr««TT L T — 6730/74] Automation of Telephone exchanges at Aland! and Pharannala Trsjta siftn f w r ffTO sttor 7117. PROF. NAiRAIN CHAND PA- ft www vt *rf iRASHAB: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to 7119. STO «TT3S : state: *RT fovra ^ WFT (a) whether it is proposed to auto l^T T^T fa : mate the Telephone Exchanges at Mandi and Dharamshala; and (t ) t fspnr ^ «n«n?r srwr^ff (b) if so, the likely date by which % TT STFTRT forr the automation would be completed? t ; sta THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE {«) fefft fafafl WSWf MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (PROF. SHER SINGH): fro m M wNft («ft n*roft) : {*) ( t o w t f *r) n V 1971-72 . . . 60.12 719.43 779.55 1972-73 . . . 90.40 679.11 769.51 1973-74 . . . 55.18 287.16 34 .34 74 cT ° F ) ------. . . 205.70 891.40 1685.70 (3) $t£V viVriffinr sit^ct) far* SJ^R t :— 3F5 ; iftr ( 3 ) xvm srcr ^ w r qr 1 . saftforft (TR%fr^?r) *P^T *TT5T 3TT% *RT foScT *ftT 91^ yfspFvT 6755 I t v i V 2 . WRH 463 3. *ftr ^rS ifW tfW fVFRf flW faWRT fftr qr ’srraTfrcr 933 alihthvt («ft 4. ®qif *At sfrw (^ ) (s). ^fa fafatf spTCTf 3F? I ’Rrf: ^cmK 1318 5. qrrsT, q ^ % ^ %ar*r ^5% *TTCT ®pV ^F*ft % 3PR8? $" **? (zwdi^w ^rfr*r ^K^Ptf *pt m ^nrnrr "fife^r ^ i* fvK tfr fafa^ wmi, *ftfacr mi ^q^??r) ... 457 6 . ^irs vits k 328 s r t f^ p r ap^r rm w\ P M *r% mr (b) if so, the extent of route-kilo- fwvror #w r if Tim metres proposed xo be coverd by #>ft <5*0 *to t r t ) : ( * ) *rtr the broadband micro-wave system ( ? ) • vTcTT?FT *t» yXViX)- during the Filth Plan? ^ 7 T 5? 1971—72 *f> 1972- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 73 % faetar sri *r (srrarc i960— MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) and (b>. 100) 5.3 3fcP?Rr Yes, Sir. In the 5th Five Year Plan, ** 19/3—74 (tri*wwqjnt) % the P&T Department has proposals for building a net-work of trunk tele *pr4Y rcr*r v fo s f . 0 . 9 . *ro\r «iVtfV phone using radio relay and coaxial ?fr ftrcwe r vcrr ^ r r t srafr« rt cable media. It has been planned to ^ 1972-7 % (b) if so, the outlines thereof? Pre-mature retirement sought by Senior Officers ol Planning Com- THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE misstoa MINISTRY OP INDUSTRIAL DEVE- LOPIHBENT (SHRI M. B. RANA): (a) At present no such proposal is under 7128. SHRI PROBODH CHANDRA: consideration. Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise. (a) whether some senior officers of the Planning Commission have asked for pre-mature retirement; Broad-band Microwave Network (b) if so, the number of such officers and their designations; and 7128: SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA (c) the reasons therefor?* TIONS be pleased to stae: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Enquiry against Managing Director ©f THE MINISTER OF (STATE IN THE NJJD.C. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE LOPMENT (SHRI M. B. KANA): (a) 7120. PROF. MADHU DANDA- to (c). The information is being col VATE: Will the Minister of INDUS lected and will be laid on the Table TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND of the House. SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: (a) whether inspite of the 63rd re Applications from unemployed Engl* port of the Committee on public neers for setting up of n u ll scale undertakings of the 4th Lok Sabha Industries in Gujarat the Industrial Development Ministry has set up a new Committee under 7128 . SHRI VEKARIA- the Chairmanship of the National SHRI ARVIND M. PATEL: Industrial Development Corporation Ltd Chairman, Shri K. B. Hao to go Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL into the alleged financial and adminis- DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND trative irregularities committed by TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: the Managing Director of the Nation al Industrial Development Corpora (a) the total number of unemploy ed engineers who applied for licences tion Ltd.; and , to start small scale unit in Gujarat (b) if so, why is the duplication State during the year 1973-74; of inquiry resorted to? (b) the total number of cases dis THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL posed of; DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRA- (b) Does not arise. (d) the reasons therefor? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE Setting up of factories in Saurashtra LOPMENT (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN (Gujarat) ANSARI): (a) No industrial licences are required to be obtained for setting 7127. SHRI VEKARIA: up a unit in the small scale sector. SHRI ARVIND M. PATEL: (b) to (d) Do not arise. Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: Telephone Exchanges in Gujarat (a) the number of new factories set up in Saurashtra Region in Gujarat 7129. SHRI VEKARIA: V. ate during the last three years; SHRI ARVIND M. PATEL: (b) the. number of them, which Will the Minister of COMMUNICA ■were set up m public sector and of TIONS be pleased to state: those which we*i2 set up in private sector, and (a) the names of places ,alongwith the names of districts where they are (c) whether in view nf very small located in the Gujarat Circle, wtiere number of factories in this area Gov- the Telephone Exchanges have been erwnent will provide special incen sanctioned during the Calendar year tives for setting up factories thereof? 1973; I77 W ritten Answers CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answers m (b) the names of such places among 22. Vijanadi Amreli 23. Ugamedi Bha\nagar them where the Exchanges have been 24. Panshina Surendranagar set up; and as- Umrala ^ Bhav Nagar 26- Ueiroj Mthsana (c) the likely dates by which the 27. Yav-Satiasana -do- .Exchanges in the rest of the places would be set up. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) A state Telecommunication training school ment giving the names of places in Gbasiabad alongwith the names of Districts in the Gujarat Circle where Telephone 7130. SHRI VEKARIA; Will the Exchanges have been sanctioned dur Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be ing the calendar year 1973 is placed pleased t0 state: on the Table of the House. (a) whether Government propose to (b) (l)Kakoshi open a Tele-communication Training (2) Nabipur School in Ghaziabad; and (3) Supedi (b) if so, the facts thereef? (4) Vijapadi (c) Most of the exchanges at the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE remaining places are expected to be MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS set up in the year 1974-75, and the (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) Yes. Test in subsequent years dependent •on availability of exchange equip r ment. (b) There is a proposal to set up an Advanced Level Telecommunica tion Training Centre at Ghaziabad, Statement with the assistance of UNDP. The UNDP contribution will cover the pay of foreign experts and the imported SI. Name of Ex- Name of District equipment component, amounting to No. change US $ 1.124 M and thci Government of India contribution will be Rs. 12.88 M. which covers the cost of other 'per 1. Rupal Mehsana 2. Meda -do- sonnel, indigenous equipment and the 3. Mudeti Saharicantha land and building for this project. 4. Harsol -do- 5. Vav Banaskantha 6. Kakoshi Mehsana 7. Sokhda Baroda 8. Khergam Bulsar Haile station at Ceoch Betaar, West 9 * Nabipur Broach Bengal 10. Kolki Rajkot 11. Oomta -do- 12. Supedi -do- 7131. SHRI B. K.JDASCHOWDHU- IB- Untwad -do- RY; Will the Minister of INFORMA 14* Bhadla -do- TION AND BROADCASTING be 15. Balva fJunagadh 16. Gadhsisa \ Kutch pleased to refer to the reply given t7- Bhatia Jamnagar to Unstarred Question No. 9069 on the 18 . Laiza Kutch 25th April, 1973 and state the progress 1st regard to the establishment of a 19 . Verad Jamnagar 20. Dcdan Junagarh Broadcasting Station at Cooch 21. ,Mo*a-Ankadia Amreli BehaT? 179 Written Answers APRIL IT, 1974 Written Answer* fto THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tion No. 2112 on 6th March, 1074 MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND regarding waiting list or Telephones BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM and State: B. R. SINHA): On technical consi derations, it has been found that rather THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Criteria for installation of automatic THE MINISTRY OF C O M M U N I Telephone Exchange CATIONS (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) The total number of working connections all over the country as 7132. SHRI D. P. JADEJA: Will the on 31st December, 1973 was about 12 Minister of COMMUNICATIONS lakhs; be pleased to state the criteria adop ted for installation of an automatic (b) The estimated number of new tejfphnn^ Exchange? applicants for telephone connection during the 5th Five Year Plan is about THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 6.8 lakhs. f | MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (PROF. SHER SINGH): 1. The (c) The Draft 5th Five Year Plan scheme should be remunerative. for Telecommunications envisages 2. In rural areas, new exchanges provision of 7.79 lakhs new lines. are generally opened as atomatic ex changes of 25 or 50 lines capacity. 3. In addition, medium size automa National Museum of Natural History tic exchanges are planned to be instal led at important district headquar 7134. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL ters and at places included in the Na REDDY: Will the Minister of tional Dialling network. SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state: 4. Automatic exchanges are also planned for replacing manual exchan ge of 1000 lines or higher capacity. (a) the progress made in the set ting up of a National Museum of & In eities already -halving automa Natural History; and tic exchanges additional exchanges, when needed, are also provided as automatic exchanges. (b) when it is expected to be com pleted? THE MINISTER OF INDUS Zteaumd for Telephone connection*TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY 7133. SHRI BISWANARAYAN (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM): (a) Col SHASTRI; Will the Minister of COM lection of specimens and preparation MUNICATIONS be pleased to refer to of exhibits is going on. Two curators the reply given to Unstarerd Ques and some supporting staff havo been I&i Stoppage of CHAITRA 27, 18d6 ( SAKA) Air-Coiiditioning at Ig2. t Delhi Airport (CA) appointed. A building has bec(n hired sidered necessary to obtain certain In New Delhi for homing the Museum clarifications from the Chief Minister. temporarily. An outlay of Rs, 50 These have since been received and lakhs has been provided in the Fifth the matter is being processed further. Five-Year Plan for setting up the Museum. (b) While no target date can be spe Opening of P&T Dispensaries at cified, it is proposed to throw open to various places in Bihar the public the temporary museum as soon as the specimens and exhibits 7136. SHRI K. M. MADHUKAR: Will get properly displayed. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Stage of Inquiry of charges of cor (a) whether P&T Dispensaries will ruption contained in a Memoran be opened at Muzaffarpur, Ranchi, dum submitted by C.PJ ana Gaya, Dhanbad, Darbhanga and A.D.M.K. Chapra in addition to P&T dispensaries functioning at Patna and if so, what step has so far been taken to open the 7135. SHRI M. KALYANASUNDA- said dispensaries; and RAM: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state the present stage (b) the difficulty in opening P&T of investigation with regard to the dispensaries at those places and the charge of corruption contained in probable time by which the dispen the memorandum submitted to the saries are expected to function? President and the Prime Minister by C.P.I. and A.D.M.K.? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE TIONS (PROF. SHER SINGH): (a) MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND and (b). Necessary sanctions for ope IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON ning of P&T Dispensaries at these NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIDHA): places have recently been issued. Fur Two separate memoranda containing ther action will be taken by the Post certain allegations against the Chief master-General Patna for opening of Minister and some other Ministers of the Dispensaries as early as possible* Tamil Nadu were submitted to the President by Sarvashri M. G. Rama Chandran and M. Kalya’iasitndaram 12.15 hrs. on the 6th and 7th November, 1972 respectively. CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE Comments of the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu on the allegations con REPORTED ABRUPT STOPPING OF tained in those memoranda were ob AIR-CONDITIONING PLANTS AT tained. Thereafter SjShri Ramachan- DELHI AIRPORT. dran and Kalyanasundaram submitted rejoinders in respect of the comments SHRI P. M. MEHTA (Bhavnagar): given by the Chief Minister. Shri Kal Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I call thp yanasundaram also submitted a note attention of the Minister of Supply containing some further allegations. aud Rehabilitation to the following Comments of the Chief Minister on matter of urgent public importance the points made in the re'joinders and and request that he may make a state on the allegations contained in Shri ment thereon. Kalyanasundaram’s further note were also obtained and the matter \(rM exr "Reported abrupt stopping of air- amined. In this connection, it was con conditioning plants at Delhi Airport a$3 Stoppage o f APRIL 17, 1974 Air-Conditioning at 184 Delhi Airport (CA) IShri P. M. Mehta] in the plants. Inter-Departmental by the private firms maintaining discussions were held during Novem these plants, due to non-payment ber, 1973, January and March, 1974 of Us dues by the Government. with a view to exploring the possibi lity of accepting the plants w*tb • THE MINISTER OF SUPPLY AND suitable price reduction but the same REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. were inconclusive. KHADILKAR): A contract for supply ■and installation of an Airconditioning Pending receipt and further action plant at Delhi Airport for Phase—I on the report of the inspection team, (New International Arrival Wing) the Airport authority had entrusted was awarded to Messrs Frick India the maintenance and operation of the Limited, Faridabad by Directorate plants at a cost of Rs 2 50 lakhs to General of Supply and Disposals on the same firm for a period of one •30th September, 1970 at a total cost year only from 7 4.1973. This contract iof about Rs. 6.39 lakhs. This has not been renewed further. Mean was followed by a second contract is while, some temporary arrangements sued on 4-1-1971 in favour of the have been mado ^ tbe Airport au same firm for Phase II (International thority to avoid inconvenience to the Booking Hall Domestic Arrival public. Lounge, etc.) Value of the second (contract was approximately Rs. 14 56 lakhs. Out of the total value of about Rs. 20.95 lakhs against both the con The plant for Phase-I was installed tracts, a sum of about Rs 15.71 lakhs in April 1971, whereas the plant for has already been released to the firm, Phase II was installed in June. 1973. leaving a balance of about Rs 5 24 The consignee (CPWD) noted lakhs. Further payment amounting to pertain deficiencies in the working about Rs 141 lakhs has also been of both the plants. An ad hoc inspec withheld from other ’■'ills of the firm tion team consisting of representatives pending final decision about acceptan- of the DGS&D, CPWD and the Inter ce|rejection of the plants. national Airports Authority of India was constituted on 28-10-1972 to con In view of what I have stated duct the various tests before the above, it is quite obvious that accor plants were finally taken over. The ding to the report of the inspection firms consent to the setting up of the team the plant is yet not up to speci inspection team was also obtained. fications However, the Airport autho rities are taking all possible measures The inspection team carried out within the time available to them to summer tests of the plants during ensure that the passengers are not June, 1973 followed by monsoon test denied the minimum comfort in the during September, 1973. Deficiencies Airport areas. The question of taking observed during the summer test further appropriate action against the were intimated to the Arm for recti defaulting firm in terms of the con- fication before the1 monsoon test was ractt is under consideration. carried out. However the firm did not care to attend to a number of de SHRI P. M. MEHTA: This abrupt ficiencies. The capacity of the plants stopping of air-conditioning plant at was found below the specified re the international airport of our capital quirements in regard to both Phase-I has considerably damaged the reputa and FMase-II especially, the average tion of the airport and of the Gov output of chilling units was found ernment and thereby of the country. much below the specification The re The Minister has not come out with port of the inspection team also high the full facts of the case. I think be lighted a number of inherent defects has been misled by the D.G.S.&D. Stoppage o f CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Air-Conditioning at 186 t Delhi Airport (CA) authorities and has tried to conceal instruction, they would not be able to • many points which are awkward to operate! further the air-conditioning them. This is a glaring case of red- plants, and whether it is a fact that tapism, negligence, want of coordina the Airport authorities and the hon. tion between the concerned depart Minister of Civil Aviation kept quiet ments, viz., airport authorities, D.G.S. on this. & D. and CPWD. It Tlso reflects the malafies of D.O.S.&D. and CFWD and SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: The hon. the airport authorities are equally Member has raised several points. concerned with it. Yet, they have not Some of thorn are already incorpora attended to this matter properly. ted in the statement itself. The hon. According to the statement, some Member would have ceen from the statement that, as soon as the defects deficiencies v/e^e found. The defici encies are not mentioned in the report. were detected and it was found that There is nothing ‘mentioned in the the performance was below the speci fications special inspection teams were statement as to whether it was consi set up in 1972; and setting up of joint dered proper hv the authorities to ask the firm to remove the deficiences or teams was done in consultation with the firm—fin~t for summer and then whether the authorities had found that the plant is unsuitable and therefore for monsoon. In all these reports it it should be rejected. When they was found... found that the equipment was not up to the ’mark and there were some defi SHRI P. ,M. MEHTA; You lay it on ciencies, why did the Government give the Table of the House or refer it to the contract to the same firm to the Public Accounts Committee. operate the plant for three long years? Is there any proviso in the contract SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR; The deed relating to penalty or rejection hon. Member wanted ,to know the* of the equipment if found unsuitable defects. They are all of a technical or if any deficiency exists? Why have nature. However, I would read out the D.GS.&D or CPWD or both from the report as to what are the • jointly not taken any action under defects. The. compressor speed is not that clause all these years? The 900 or 960 RPM as listed in the A/T statement grays that they have com for Phase I and II, respectively, but w municated it to the firm. What was run at 800 RPM with the system of communicated to them—whether you pulley andlaelt drive, etc. The main will reject the plant or penalty will thing is that the compressor is not be imposed or what? That is not working according to the specification. stated in the statement. The second thing is, ‘spillover of liquid refrigerant particles inside the com Is it a fact that the same firm pressor will not only damage the operated the plant for two or three compressor,’ etc. I would call it the years? What was the nature of the freezing point; there are some defects deficiencies? What are the main points there. Then, ‘the chiller size and of the report? When was the report surface area of tubes are undersized’. submitted? What are the recommen All these defects have been discover dations contained in the report and ed... what action has been taken no far? I would like to kno% from the hon. SHRI P. M. MEHTA: The vital point Minister whether the firm had written is, wh^n these deficiencies were dis to the Airport authorities and to the covered. Minister of Civil Aviation that the contract would exPire on 5th or 7th SHRI R. K. .KHADILKAR: As I April and that, in the absence of any said, as soon as the plant was installed -.187 Stoppage of APRIL 17, 1974 Air-Conditioning at 188 Delhi Airport (CA) [Shri R. K. Khadilkar] and it started functioning, some defi SHRI P. M- MEHTA: The~flrm had ciencies were discovered and it was written to the Minister as also to tike found that it was not upto the mark. Airport Authority that they would When it came to the notice o! the shut down the plant in the absence of authorities, they immediately set up any instructions from the Airport an inspection team and their reports Authority? What is the reply to it? were taken. In such cases, when we get refrigeration plant from any firm, SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: So far as the maintenance is a separate thing; the maintenance contract was not that & a separate contract, and that renewed, they naturally did not main contract was given to the same firm tain. As I said, the whole apparatus one year back. It was not renewed. they have supplied is not according The question of lenewal of contract to the specification. So. naturally they was considered at appropriate time have not got the renewal of the con and no action was taken. After tract and maintenance has stopped. repeatedly pointing out the several defects m the plant, no attempt has been made to rectify them. Therefore, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Shri the question before the authorities Laskar—-not here. Shri Shrikiahatt concerned was whether we should Modi. continue the contract or discontinue it, and for the time being they have decided not to renew the maintenance contract. aft ^ fafaar i About the other points that he has jffo %\jio tii t*rr srrfpzr «rr % raised about the firm. I may mention that all precautions were taken for 37 f rnrfarw i ^ *rar the performance of the contract secu JT?r $ % ?ri qrff £ w rity deposit and all other usual pre 1 1970 * cautions were also taken, and then alone this contract was given. m f* forr smrr f i 1971 ww l i t TT 'T SHRI P M. MEHTA; I have asked *rryr 14 *rr«r t t sr forr *nsrrfc 1 whether any proviso exists in the contract deed relating to penalty or srn? ^ 2: ?fi ?t»tt £?rr | 1 rejection if the equipment is not found ff; ^ f ftrftnMV Vcflfir suitable and if so, why no action has I c s r .^ i r , sr^r r t ? ? Jiprsr «rr ctt been taken so far to reject the equip ment srrc ^ f o irsmt vfK w z ^ f m SHRI R. K KHADILKAR: We have detected the defects after the team’s & I WT f^RTT inspection report. The main question f^» 3 ft 5TT9 W R T "SF?n% is to take action. That, as I said, we 3*PT % fWT I «R R ftp will have to consider now, whether We totally reject after giving them an tit ^ ftp | opportunity to rectify. They have not tit *ft k rectified. Under the contract we have ftrrr 1 ^ qr 6 trto to give them a notice of complete rejection and we will have to consider *r eft srtt^t ftp ^prf^a: sftt other suitable steps also. So rejection apTrfT | I tit a^rnr ^Tf^- fa is not of a small technical nature. It f r x p m fanrr ^tt ^ *rr is a big thing. So, that is being consi dered by the Airport Authority. forc an 1 1 v r t i t «pnr ^r?r $> 189 Stoppage o f CHAITRA 27, 189$ (SAKA) Air-Conditioning at I9o Delhi Airport (CA) t o t t | fa J# |t sffa ?TH 21 VT 5^T ^ 1970 % [Mt ««**** Tim] MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER- Do not submit but put the question please tft srr* Tt *rf *Yr Mta m SHRI M C DAGA I am putting c9fTC W , ^HT Vsftfa’K Tt the question You cannot debar me tut tot f r t?*rc t i ^f s ?rr of my right w r I ^3fT^T *ftT t * urfaTTft * srsr s*t Tt ^ fsfasr TTrT % T£T eft TY ^ T fr*? ^T ?T*T5r JTf MY *JT f r 3PT l ^ Y a Mfc TfT f r ^ f^TTT f w f c r I t «imWY TY 8 STW, 1974 TT TTT ^ 5tT «TT ? TT^fhT %% % *1T forr f T ^ zm % *f*tt gsr ^ft so I shall be glad to discus^ with WTT ^TT «TT MYt &T* Tt TTT W you this matter openly and at any Mt MYt % s n w R f r r t e t s *ft time before the 10th April at your Mt I % m t fspT TT ?n^TT convenience and thereafter you can give your final decision whether *T?ft MY T t ^«TT I $ Mt our plant will operate this year to $ f r % ^ r t ^t t?T air condition the Palam Airpoit T^r?t # s ti sm s 3ft vi ’tt^t tY srre or not %ftr ^rt «r^iHY % f^Frrr srr^ ^ ft MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER Now ^T%cr Mtr T^frf^mr t % MY vstn- you put tl e question Do not make $hY ^|f^ f r f i w TH?FT FT a speech *r w t 1 SHRI M C DAGA This is a question that I am putting whether SIIRI R K KHADILKAR Sir the pirty ever served the notice on the hon Membei ha' said so many the An port authority and whethet things Let him give a positwe proof any reply was given to that or not about it on whatever mfoimation he The notice was served on the Airport has because I have no knowledge Aulhoiity on th* 6th April, 1974 I about it as I said earlier want +0 know whether any action whatso# fer was taken on that notice MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER You will or not. I humbly bubrrut Sir please take note °* what he said 193 Stoppage o f CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Air-Conditioning at Question of Privilege Delhi Airport (CA) SHRI K. K. KHADILKAR: I am tit tottrY sfeft t vfffa 5ft sfta irrTsr taking note of what he said. I am not able to give Any reply to the vague «mt t % farc an% f , charges that are levelled by the hon. w wjfatfr gf £ i ^ Member. ^*pvt^ !r«w r5n rrt i S*rFFfrr SHRI M. C. DAGA: I am putting aff % *n$ fa ** isr tit definite questions now. s f t w i v m t t fa % fasr MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You are fosr ir t o r ft j h p vr 5m £ sftr aft putting the questions based on certain information that you have. Is it not? t $(*Fm The Minister says he is not in the tit vpm ssrct fnr * 1 know of those details. Therefore, he is not in a position to answer. He also said that the charges are vague. I shall SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: I do came to them also. Since he is not share the anxiety of the hon. Member in the know of those details, he is not that no inconvenience is caused to in a position to answer. I have said the domestic or international passen on behalf of Shri Daga that since he gers. As I said, every effort is being has mentioned these things, they are made to see that the minimum all before the House. It is for the inconvenience is caused. Regarding Minister to take careful note of these the question of the enquiry if certain things and to make enquiries. The facts are placed before us certainly Minister said that what you said is we will look into them. vague. I think it is unwarranted. Mr. Gill. fa f f*m : firsfr ffrfsr, x^pft s t ti &*- fa* f*W : * ?rt arf^srr SHRI R. K. KHADILKAil: I cannot understand. The question before us f*TT ! ...... is whether we again give the same SHRI M. C. DAGA: This is a contract of maintenance or cancel the documentary evidence. contract completely? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You close that chapter. 1 have tried to put your case. 12.45 hrs. SHRI M. C. DAGA: Sir, I have QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE referred to the document, it is not (A ll e g e d M is l e a j m n c information an oral evidence. GIVEN BY THE MINISTER MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; it does not matter. He will look into all MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Regard ing the question of privilege raised these things. by Shri Jyottrmoy Bosu yesterday, the Minister has to make a statement. : < rw qpn:- v r sft qirc n i 2 ?rrfar ^ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia mond Harbour): Sir, has this state ^ 5*rrt,S*r# ^ ment been circulated? I have not got- a copy. Wo have to study it This is the practice. 358 LS.—7 195 Question of Privilege APRIL 17, 1974 Question of Privilege 196 MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; It is the High Court duly underlined by not that every statement should be him. in this connection. I would like circulated before-hand. We are in a to submit that the reply furnished by state of considering this question. me to this Question was baaed on the You raised the question yesterday. report received from the Government He will make a statement. Then 1 of Gujarat stating categorically that shall consider after hearing a few no ordete to shoot at sight for others on the other side whether violation of curfew were issued. there is an issue of privilege or not. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 1 have had an opportunity to MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS furnish an answer to another un (SHRI F. H. MOHSIN); Sir, I seek starred question on the same subject your permission to make the follow a week later. To my reply to ing statement about the Privilege question No. 2834 on the 18th March, Motion tabled by Shri Jyotirmoy 1 had inter aha stated as follows: Bogu regarding the reply given by me in the House on 6th March, 1974 “The Gujarat High Court declared to the Unstarred Question No. 2093: — unlawful the /executive directions contained in the announcement that In the Unstarred Question No. 2093 persons violating the curfew were Sarvashri Prasannbhai Mehta and liable to ibe shot. No order was Biswanath Jhunjhunwala sought however issued by the Police information whether the Union Gov Commissioner, as such to the Police ernment had examined the judgment for shooting the persons violating of Gujarat High Court declaring as the curfew.” illegal the order that persons violating curfew were liable to be shot and, if so, what was Govern Sir, the relevant facts are that the ment’s reaction thereto? In reply I Police Commissioner, Ahmedabad had 3tated:— imposed curfew order in Ahmedabad city limits on 27th January, 1974 “The Gujarat High Court have under Section 144 Cr. P.C. The Order declared as illegal any notification as Guch did not authorise the Police passed under Section 144 Cr. P.C. to shoot at sight persons violating announcing that a person commit curfew as any such authorisation ting breach of such order shall be would have been against the law. liable to be shot. No order was The violation oi the order issued under Section 144 Cr. P.C. is issued by the State Government or punishable under Section 188 I.P.C the Police Commissioner to shoot After the imposition of curfew, the at person*? violating the curfew.” Department of Information, Govern My Hon’ble friend Shri Jyotirmoy ment of Gujarat, made an announce Bosu has alleged that I deliberately ment. Gtyled “important Announce gave a false information to the House ment”. This announcement, inter alia, and thereby committed a breach of stated that any one moving out of privilege. In his Privilege Notice, he his house during curfew hours was has underlined the words “No order likely to be shot. The Gujarat High w&g issued by the State Government Court were of the opinion that the or the Police Commissioner to shoot executive directions contained in the at persons violating the curfew” and important announcement in so far as I presume that he has taken objection they hold out to the members of the to this portion of tbe answer, public the threat that a curfew especially since he has sought to breaker for a more breach of the compare ttiis portion of the answer curfew order was liable to be shot with an extract of the judgment of at was ultra vires. jy 7 Questicri o f CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Question of 19K Privilege Privilege Sir, I would submit that the 'lhis means that they have accepted information I had lurnkshed to the what tne complainant or the peti unscarred question No. 2098 on the tioner has said. They say furtnei: 6th is factually correct, inasmuch as there was no order issued by the “In our opinion, therefore, the State Government or the Police executive directions contained in Commissioner to shoot at a person the important Announcement’ in so violating the curfew. This position far as tuey hold out to the members was further amplified in the subse oi the public the threat that a quent reply I had furnished on the curfew-breaker lor a mere breach same subject on ISth March. There ot the curlew order is liable to be can thug be no question of my trying shut at is ultra vires their powers to mislead the House. I may assure and also ultra vires section 144 oi: you, Sir, that I had no such intention the Code of Criminal Procedure, either. Section 188 ol the Indian Penal Code and articles 20 and 21 of the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I can Constitution and it therefore, void hear a few Members from the and of no effect whatsoever.” Opposition, but again I shall have to consider all this after hearing a few They have stated thia as their submissions. reaction on the plaint filed by the campiaint. Then, there is another SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: My very interesting thing in the Times motion was very specific that in his o f India issue dated the 16th April, reply under reference, he had cate 1974. They had contradicted also that gorically stated before the House: in Bihar any .such order had been issued. Here is the report from the “No order was issued by the State Times of India which says: Government or the Police Commis sioner to shoot at persons violating “The district magistrate con the curfew.” firmed at Gaya that he had issued a shoot-at-sight order on April 13 From the copy of the judgment that again»3t curfew-violators indulging I have. I find that the judges of the in violent activities like looting and Gujarat High Court have really done arson.” a good job. They say: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The “The petitioner has alleged that the press and the radio had in the point here is whether the Minister had wake of the curfew order and misled the House by his statement the ‘Important Announcement’ and, therefore, had committed a breach announced in their turn to the of privilege. Confine yourself to that. people that anyone who commits SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I have breach of the curfew osder would done that. In order tc strengthen my be liable to be shot at.” argument that the executive and their Then, they have gone further and police officers are frequently issuing dealt with the matter more elabo such ordero, I had quoted an extract rately. They have said; from the newspaper which is very reliable and dependable. “What, in our opinion, the State has done by issuing the executive I have no other submission to make. directions to its law and order 1 feel I have made out a clear case forces to act upon is what it has that the Minister has committed a not done by enacting a legislation. breaah of privilege and the matter In our opinion....**. should go to the Committee of Privi- 199 Question of Privilege APRIL 17, 1974 Question of PHeUtge 20 (Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu] frtt % fan m t i w tw«tf tit leges for them to sit in judgment on $ * ff ir v^rT w m £ % f 9 f^ w f it. tit <15*1 fairrtt wnretft : »wTf^t*r< ^rre’TjST *r$t?wr # *rarr «n5tw w ^ t m farcfarfoRrn: ^ ^ fa pr % 5ft ^ 9WTI farc «rff «rr, 5t f ? ^ ^ ^ «ft; \ f a MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He said «4^ tit warn fw^rft wwfcft:.. .%far ’jnfr % ^rrR% »r^t v $ ^ % f ^ ; W 'JpZ Jf oft TO |, «tt 5»r ^ t ^rRvrtt % f , Ir q v t o sre | fa ffcrcr f^r 13.00 krs. The hon. Minister says that he acted MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Not on the Information supplied by the everybody. There should be a limit. Government of Gujarat Then, at that Kindly be brief. time, did he not have the judgment of the high court in his hand? The question related to the judgment of SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA the high court and the hon. Minister (Begusarai): To my mind any amount should have taken care to go into Hie of confusion, that the hon. Member judgment of the high court and then would like to introduce into it would answered this question. The judgment not cover his intent of misleading the of the high court must override any House. It is quite clear that there information, telephonic or otherwise, was an important announcement that might have been given Announcement of whom? Announce- by the State Government. ment of the Government; “Govern So, it is quite clear that the hon. ment” meaning the executive Govern Minister, in two replies to two ques ment. An announcement through tions, was trying to mislead the House what? Through the All India Radio, and he was trying to mislead the the announcement is made by- the House with the clear intent to hide beat of drum and that announcement the wantonaesg of the order that had 303 Question of Privilege AFOUL 17, 1974 Question of Privilege [Shri Shyamnandan Mishraj which they should not try to defend; on the contrary they should make a been passed by the Government of clean breast of the whole position; the the State of Gujarat. Minister is not very much to blame, SIlRi VIKRAM MAHAJAN (Kan- why do you stand on prestige and gra). I have listened very carefully ceremony and whatever right you imagine you possess, to flout Parlia to the great orations, but I find that ment? The Gujarat High Court has they are making a very bad case and given a judgement; it i» very serious. presenting a very bad case to the It has taken note of certain things House. The basic point is—which which obviously have happened; other they have not been able to make out— wise they would not have made those that there should be an order dated observations. It may be tbat the such and such made by an executive Government did not i9sue an execu oflicer like the Commissioner of tive order, number so and so and dated Police or the Home Secretary. That so and so but the Government gave o;der 'must be in existence. That is the impression to the world outside the fir.st point. that it was going to be done and the Secondly, in spite of it being not m AIR. surely does not act indepen existence, the question is whether the dently. on its own authority. The Home Minister or the Deputy Home announcement over the AIR. network is surely tantamount to the communi Minister gave a wrong information cation of an order of the Government to the House that it did not exist. The One might not call it an executive position made out by them is that the order under certain sections of some AIK announced that such and such an legislation, I do not know. I could oider had been issued, and therefore, understand if the Minister had said: it is presumed that the order must I answered only on the basis on infor have been issued. mation furnished to me by the Gujarat Government: on later investigation I There can be a discrepancy between discovered that there had been some what the AIR had given out and what actually d’d exis.t. What the Home confusion somewhere and instead of any order having been properly Minister has given out is that actually issued, only an announcement had n0 order existed Therefore, the best been made and the whole matter had c^se that has been made out is that caused perturbation of all sorts and AIR gave out a wrong information. alfio incidents, which led to the whole thing being taken up to the Gujarat Then, what is the finding of the Hitrh Court which was constrained to High court? The High courts finding make some observations which are nowhere oayS that such and such an very mueh in consonance with all our order issued on such and such a date ideals of civic freedom. They could is ultra vires of the Constitution. That have said so and they could have apo has not been stated by the High court logised. They talk of Gandhian non I would like Mr Jyotirmoy Bosu to violence and humility. They are read the date of the order which has wedded to it, but like many married been held by the High court to be couples thev live apart, they live *ar ultra vires Therefore, I tell you that away from non-violence and humility there is no discrepancy and this and every good quality of which they should be ruled out. brag If Mr Uma Shankar Dikshit who is our Home Minister does not SHRI H. N MUKHERJEE (Calcutta- remember the Gandhian days, if he North-Eant): I am provoked by the flouts Parliament and does not remem very insistent effort by some of my ber some of the shining characteristics hon. friends defending something of our freedom struggle and the 205 « * « « © » o f CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Question o f 206 Privilege Privilege character of our people, the sooner of the curfew order, the curfew they all get out of the scenci of pub broker may be shot at”. lic life, the better for everybody. This is on Page 27. SHRI SEZHIYAN (Kurabakonam): I want to pin point the basis of the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Do not go motion raised by Mr. Bosu. The hon. into all these. Minister in his reply referred to the (statement he received from the Guja SHRI SEZHIYAN: Then, on Page rat Government. He also referred to 38, they say; the reply to unstarred question No. 2834 on 30-3-1974. We are not con “What, in our opinion, the State cerned here with what the Gujarat has done by issuing the executive Government told them, or with the direction to its law and order forces, reply to another question. This ques to act upon it. is what it has not tion was specific. I am referring to done by enacting a legislation.” question 2093 which asks whether the Union Government has examined the Therefore, it is very clear that along judgement of the Gujarat High Court with the curfew order, an announce declaring as illegal an order that per ment has been issued. It has been sons violating the curfew will be argued before the Court by the shot at and if so, the reaction of the Advocate General and the Court has Government. Usually they gay: yes, come to the conclusion, after hearing or no. Here instead of saying ‘yes’ or the side of the Government, that such ‘no’, they say something else. They an announcement has been made. It say that no order was issued by the has created in the public mind a scare State Government or the Police Com and also a threat which goes against missioner. That was not what was the constitutional right. Therefore, arsked for. First of all the question the Minister cannot come and refer to related to the judgement of the Guja other matters. We are not bothered rat High Court. We wanted simple from where you got the information. information whether they had seen It is clear, on the basis of the judge this one, whether they have com ment, that he has mislead the House. mented nn this one The High Court It is a clear case of misleading of have commented on page 19: they say the House and this should be referred that along with the issuance of the to the Privileges Committed curfew order, an important announce ment was issued: SHRI H. M. PATEL (Dhandhuka): May I just clarify one point. Much is "Clauses 4 and 6 of the announce made about radio announcement not ment make express reference to the being equivalent of Police Commis likelihood or possibility of a curfew sioner’s orders. I may say that every breaker may be shot at’*. announcement on the radio, during this period, began like this: *Here is This is the order that the Government an important announcement made has passed. Later on, they have made under the instructions of the Police a reference to this order and said that Commissioner’ and it was then there along with the Government order, an after they said that every one moving announcement has been made. Then, about during the period of curfersv again, on Page 27 they say: will be liable to be shot at. Therefore, there is no question of there not being “We have, therefore, no doubt in a specific order. All India Radio made our mind that the executive direc this announcement under the heading, tions hold to the public xnind a prefacing it that this announcement is threat that even for a mere breach MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am to “ .. . request those members who be satisfied.. .(Interruptions) If you are in favour of leave being grant want to speak; let everyone speak. ed to rise in their places, and if Members do not know where their not less than twenty-five members own interests lie. rise accordingly, the Speaker shall declare that leave is granted...” I have said that there is no motion before the House and, therefore, there Now it is incumbent on you to allow is nothing to be put to the House. me to seek the leave of the House. But the Chair can do anything with the consent of the House. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Kindly If the House agrees to drop it here sit down. You have raised the point and that the matter is over.. .(Inter of order. Let me give the ruling. ruptions) Don’t say ‘No' or ‘Yes’. I am just formulating. If you all de Let us understand the procedure. cide that the matter should end here, The matter has been raised. I have I am in your hands and I will go by given permission to raise it. And the that. But, I f you say ‘No’ and that matter has been raised... this matter has to be gone into, then I will have to study it. That is the SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: position. That is very fair. SHRI D. N. TIWARY: There is no MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Also, the necessity. Minister has come forward with a statement and Members also have ST.MW JSVT ('TfaTRT) : made their submission. Now the stage nrrcr 'forar m ^ ttjt it i has come for me, if the House does OTT eft I not by consent agree otherwise, whe I should hold that this point SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Under ther raised is in order. Rule 225, let us understand it very clearly. The Rule says: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: No, “The Speaker, if he gives consent Sir. under Rule 222 and holds that the matter proposed to be discussed is MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: After I in order.. have held that this in order, then the Member can ask the leave of the which you have done. House. “... .shall, after the questions and SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: .No, before the list of business is en no. tered upon, call the member con cerned, who shall rise in his place, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You do and while asking for leave to raise not understand. I cannot hold it in the question of privilege, make a order now because I have to study short statement relevant thereto___ it. That has been done. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: That Now the next rule is: stage is over. “If objection to leave being gran MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: That ted is taken, to Speaker shall ___ stage has now arisen. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I know SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: the position. If there is a sincere apology.. . SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I will SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: read it .. .and an expression of regret, 1 2 l l Question of CHAITRA 27, 1896 ( SAKA) Question of 2X2 Privilege Privilege [Shri F. H. Mohsin] it such confusion has been created, 1 It has been argued by the learned am sorry for the same. Advocate Genera! that the directions contained in the ‘Important Announ SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: cement’ are not intended to hold out We are not confused. It is the hon. to the members of the public say Deputy Minister who is confused. threat but that they have been issued MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now the to them only tor their safety. question has been raised and discus sed. Various points have been made; The High Court have said: various data and information, what "..the executive directions con- ever the members had, have been tramed m the ‘important Announce given; the hon. members made their submissions; and at the end of all ment', in so far as they hold out to the members of the public the that, the Minister has said that, if threat that a curfew-breaker for a any confusion has been created, he mere breach of the curfew order is is sorry for it. Now the point is this liable to be shot at is ultra vires First of all, I have got to decide—it is my responsibility after hearing all their powers and also ultra vires section 144 of the Code of Criminal these things—whether there is a p n m a fa cie case of breach of privi Procedure..” lege Now I cannot say that off-hand. As I have already said, as per the So many things have been said. I can report received from the Gujarat not digest all the facts here. I have Government.. (Interruptions) As I got to study those things and where have said, no order was issued by necessary, I have to call for informa the State Government.. .(Interrup tion So, I cannot say anything off tions) hand The matter is before the House. If the House is satisfied with SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: the expression of the Minister that Gujarat is under President’s rule. he is sorry if there has been confu sion, then the matter may be dropped here. It is upto the House. But if SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: This was the House is not satisfied.. . based on the report received from the State Government. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: On a point of order. ISHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE. MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will Where is the State Government? hear your point of order later. Let MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Let us me complete this. If the House is hear him. not satisfied, then I will have to study and come before the House again That is the only thing. SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: On 6-3-1974, it is true, the whole judgment copy SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD was not before us. (Bhagalpur): We are satisfied. It is enough now___(Interruptions) SHRI SEZHIYAN: Why did you give a reply then? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Order, please Let me make it very clear. SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: Only the There is no motion before the House and, therefore, it is not a question operative portion was before us, and to be decided by a majority. There whatever information was with us, is no motion before the House. I am we have conveyed to the House. Any way, it seems that there has been to be satisfied whether there is... some confusion as regards my rep SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN: You lies on 6-3-1974 and subsequently, and arc satisfied. 2IJ Question of Privilege APRIL 17, 1974 Question of Privilege MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; 1 am to . . request those members who be satisfied.. .(Interruptions') If you are in favour of leave being grant want to speak; let everyone speak. ed to rise in their places, and if Members do not know where their not less than twenty-five members own interests lie. rise accordingly, the Speaker shall declare that leave is granted...” I have said that there is no motion before the House and, therefore, there Now it is incumbent on you to allow is nothing to be put to the House. me to seek the leave of the House. But the Chair can do anything with the consent of the House. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Kindly If the House agrees to drop it here sit down. You have raised the point and that the matter is over.. .(Inter of order. Let me give the ruling. ruptions) Don’t say ‘No* or ‘Yes’. I am just formulating. If you all de Let us understand the procedure. cide that the matter should end here, The matter has been raised. I have I am in your hands and X will go by given permission to raise it. And the that. But, I f you say ‘No’ and that matter has been raised.. . this matter has to be gone into, then I will have to study it. That is the SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: position. That is very fair. SHRI D. N. TIWARY: There is no MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Also, the necessity. Minister has come forward with a «ft HvMH VVC (qrf^TTWT) : WT statement and Members also have made their submission. Now the stage 5TN- $H3TT m fTSNT # TFT 5T I has come for me, if the House does STPT ?ft qRVJjlM | I not by consent agree otherwise, whe ther i should hold that this point SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Under raised is in order. Rule 225, let us understand it very clearly. The Rule says: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: No, “The Speaker, if he gives consent Sir under Rule 222 and holds that the matter proposed to be discussed is MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: After I in order.. have held that this in order, then the Member can ask the leave of the which you have done. House. “... .shall, after the questions and SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: .No, before the list of business is en no. tered upon, call the member con cerned, who shall rise in his place, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You do and while asking for leave to raise not understand. I cannot hold it in the question of privilege, make a order now because I have to study short statement relevant thereto___ it. That has been done. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: That Now the next rule is: stage is over. “If objection to leave being gran MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: That ted is taketi, to Speaker shall ___ stage has now arisen. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I know SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: the position. If there is a sincere apology.. . SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I will SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: read it .. .and an expression of regret, I 215 Papers Laid CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Arregt Of M M te r t 216 [Shri Shyamnandan Mishra] SONNEL (SHRI RAM KOTA* MBt- DHA): I beg to l&y on the Table a would appeal to Mr. Jyotirmoy Bosu copy each of the following Notifica not to press this matter. tions (Hindi and English versions) under sub-sectoin (2) of section 8 of SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE- the All India Services Aet, 1951;— But the Minister should clearly say that he had no intention to mislead (1) The Indian Administrative the House No question of confusion Service (probationers’ Final Let him say it. TBTMn SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I want (2) The Indian Police Service a categorical assurance from him that (Probationers' Final Examin- nowhere m the country shoot-at-sight nation) Amendment Regula order wil be given under any cir tions, 1974, published in No cumstance tification No. G.S.R. 310 in Gazette of India dated the SHR UMA SHANKAR DIKSHIT 30th March, 1974. I want to assure the House that we had no intention of misleading the (3) The Indian Forest Service House and we are sorry for what has Probationers' Final Examina happened. tion) Amendment Regulation, 1974, published in Notifica tion No. GSR. 311 in Gazette 12 35 hrs. of India dated the 30th March, 1974. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE [Placed m Library. See No LT-0718| F u r n a c e O i l ( F i x a t i o n o f c e il i n g 74] P r ic e s a n d D istribution ) O r d e r , 197 4 ) 13.36 hrs THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND ARREST OF MEMBERS CHEMICALS (SHRI SHANAWAZ •i. KHAN) • I beg to lay on the Table MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have a copy of the Furnace Oil (Fixation to make an announcement of Ceiling Prices and Distribution) Order, 1974 (Hindi and English ver I have to inform the House that I sions) published in Notification No have received the following telegram GSR. 150(E) in Gazette of India dated the 10th April, 1974, from the dated the 29th March, 1974, under Superintendent of Police, Bhopal, ad sub-section (6) of section 3 of the dressed to the Speaker, Lok Sabha:-- Essential Commodities Act, 1955. rPZaced in lAbrary See No. LT-5717J “Sarvashri Atal Bhiar Vajpayee 74] and B. S. Chowhan, Members Lok Sabha, arrested at Bho IAS, IPS and Indian Forest Service pal on 16th April, 1974, at (Probationers* Final Examinations) 145 hours under Sections Amdt Regulations 1974 188 I.P.C. and 32 Police Act for demonstrating before THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Madhya Pradesh Vidhan MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND Sabha in contravention of IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PER Regulatory Orders passed J?A.Cf Reports APRIL 17, 1974 Situation in Bihar and 218 Gujarat (St.) by the Superintendent of (1) Hundered and twenty-third Police, Bhopal” Report on paragraphs 44 and 45 of the Report of the Comp That is all that we have got.. troller and Auditor General of India—Union Government SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: (Civil), relating to Khadi (Gwalior): 1 have been released. and village Industries Com mission. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I think that will come tomorrow. I myself (2) Hundered and fourteenth have been in doubt; I am told it is Report on action taken by complete. Government on the recom mendations contained in their aft n«f w ftt : aqmsr Eighty-ninth Report on Re view of implementation by aft, # serr «£ fa t sr ^ Government of the recom irm 1 mendations of the Public Ac counts Committee relating to ‘Customs' during 1962—*72. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): Sir, you have received the message from the District Magistrate about his 13.40 hrs. arrest under section 188 for defying STATEMENT RE. SITUATION IN Section 144. But you have not receiv BIHAR AND GUJARAT ed any message that they were relea sed. So I would like to know THE MINISTER OF HOME AF whether he is in jail or he; has run FAIRS (SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIK- away from jail. SHIT) Sir, according to information received from the Government of MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It is for Bihar some students at Gaya organi Mr. Vajpayee to say. sed dharnas. processions, etc. on the Now, Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu, to pre 8th ana 9th April, 1974. On the 10th sent the reports of the Public Ac April, students observed dharoa in counts Committee.. front of almost all Government offi ces and prevented Government ser SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): vants from going to the offices. The Sir, is there any such thing as Mr. dharna took its most severe form Vajpayee’s double.. around Banks and Telephone* Ex change and no business could be MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri transacted by the Telephone Exchange Jyotirmoy 'Bosu. Presentation of PAC and Banks that day. 31st persons were reports. arrested under section 143j341|342 IPC and section 7 of Criminal Law Amendment Act on the 10th April, 13.39 Sira. 1974. On the 11th April, 1974, dhama around the Telephone Exchange was intensified. District authorities tried PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE to persuade the picketeers to disperse HtmBRKD AND TWENTY-THIRD AND and to normalise working of the Tele H w d r b d a n d f o u r t e e n t h R e p o r t s phone Exchange but their plea went unheeded. The skeleton staff working (SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia in the Telephone Exdhange could not mond Harbour): I beg to present the even be supplied with food. On the following Reports of the Public Ac 12th, when the Sub-Divisional O ffic e r counts Committee:— (Telephones) went to the T e le p h o n e 2X9 Situation in CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Btfwr and Gujarat aao [Shri Uma Shankar Dikshit] order was given at Gaya and that all the three firings took place under Exchange and tried to get in he was orders of the Magistrates on the not allowed to do so by a large mob spot. The State Government have which had assembled before the Ex reported that the firings will be in change. SDO (Telephones) approa quired into by the District Magis ched the authorities for help Sub trate under the relevant rules of the Divisional Magistrate and Deputy Bihar Police Manual District Ma Supnentendent of Police went to gistrate Gaya has sanctioned ex-gra- Telephone Exchange with a view to tia payment of Rs. 1000)- to the next clear the mob so as to enable entry of km of those killed and Rs. 500]- of SDO (Telephones) into his office to each injured in police firing at The agitators who (prevented the SDO Gaya Telephones from entering his office were arrested. The mob turned violent The Government of Gujarat have and started brickbating heavily. Lathi intimate^ that there were no riots in charge hha to be made to disperse the Bulsar However, at Borsad in Kaira violent mob which then entered ad district following clashes between jacent lanes «md bye-lanes. A ia\ge members of two communities on the number of constables were mjmed night of April 11, police had to resort due to heavy brickbating were injured to firing The firing resulted in 5 and throwing of bottle and brickbats tragic deaths and 10 persons with in from house tops on both sides of the juries were admitted in the hospital road. The mob came out on the road There were incidents of violence, loot again and staited brickbating heavi- ing arson, etc at Anand, district 1> 48 po^icmen including the city Kaira and the neighbouring town of DSP, town Inspector, two sub-ins Vallabh-Vidyanagar on April 8, 9 and pectors and a Subedar of Bihar Mili 10 Police had to resort to firing to tary Police and 20 Home Guards were control the situation Two persons injured A police van was set on fbe died as a result of the Police firing When la-hi o large and use of teii- The State Government have reported gas moved infective m controlling that the situation is normal and com the brickbating or m dispersing the pletely under control in all these violent mob whi^h appeared likely towns * ||1 to cause Keri'ius damage to public property, firing was resorted to at Government would like to express three places, all near thr telephone i s deep grief over these incidents in exchange The firing at two plwe* Gaya and other places in Gujarat and was by BSF personnel and at the extend its full sympathy to the be third place it was by C.R.P. The reaved families of those who lost State Govt, have reported Uh*t preli their lives minary enquiries made so far show that eight rounds were fired The I sincerely hope that all sections of firing resulted m the most unfortunate the House would join me in sny eai- deaths of eight persons and injuries nest appeal to the students and others to ten (Interruption). in Bihar Gujarat and elsewhere to eschew violence and to co-operate whole heartedly in maintenance of At the request of the Government of peace and harmony and upholding Bihar in the third week of March the basic values of our democratic 1974, a few units of BSF and CRP society. were made available to them by the Govt of India for internal secu rity duties. The State Government fwrc (»m ) : im feave ummated that no shoot at sight 221 Situation in APRIL 17, 1974 Bihar and Gujarat {St.) 222 W t *Ti m I fo $ mittee meets. So, let us put an end vo this thing now. sj.5 affrnrr % i wr w arm &rr g i # sprrerrc: *t SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (Gwalior): The hon. Minister has given one side of the picture. It will g i $ »m £sr ^ fa^rreft ff 1 ?t be published tomorrow in the press. w iftflnt ^rt % «rk What about the other aide of the pic ture? Should it wait for the dis wa faraT srnprr, ^ sr^rf^r cussion? No. If the facts have been *n| | 1 ^Tszrer -*%&*, [Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu] SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: They word ‘lie’ because they get offended. have enormous influence ove* the US 1 want to give hi01 a chance there and Administration itself and have their now to correct his statement 1 am nominees inside the United States putting it squarely before him. Is it, Government The General Motors Co or is it not a fact that the district is being permitted to take over one- magistrate of Gaya has confirmed to third of the equity shares in Hindus the Press that he did give shoot-at- tan Motors, of the value of Re. 6.58 sight order; and 1 am cautioning the crores. Minister, he should correct the mis take there and now. If he does not, SHRI PILOO MODY: A good idea. I shall bring a privilege motion. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: This wifi SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN: Are make this company, General Motors, we entering into a discussion now? the single largest holder of a block ME. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; No ques of equities in this company. tions now. I rule this out I said that no questions would be permit SHRI PILOO MODY; At least we ted to be asked. The hon. Member will get decent cars. has already started asking a question. I would not allow it. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; The rea son why I want to bring this parti I think we close the matter. We cularly to the notice of Government meet this evening at 4.30 pm ...... to is that this appears to be a clear and find out the time for discussion. Now, radical departure from the accepted we close the matter. guidelines, norms and conventions of industrial policy which have been laid Hon. Membens will have enough down which are supposed t® be time when the discussion takes place. Since I have given my decision that in existence upto now. we shall have a discussion and we shall meet at 4.30 p.m. to find out the SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA- time for it, nothing more will gp on (Begusarai). Is this the first one? record about this; about this particu lar subject nothing more wil go on SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Yes. record. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA No. 1153 hrs. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Shri MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 Mishra should know that according to the Government—he may know better ( 1) Reported permission to General —foreign companies are only allowed Motors Co. of USA to takeover one- to float new ventures in this country third Equity shares in Hindustan in collaboration with Indians; they M o t o r s are not permitted to purchase equities SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Allpore): in an existing Indian company, as Under rule 377, I want bring to the General Motors is being permitted to notice of the House the report that do. the General Motors Co of United States, whidh is one of the well known SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA big multi-national giants___ Quite right. I agree. But there are other instances also. This also must SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra). The be condemned as other Instances have biggest. been condemned earlier. Matter* under CHAITEA 27, 1896 ( SAKA) Matters under 226 Rule 377 Rule 377 SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; Anyway, which ig quite unnecessary? From I am bringing this instance to the no the Point of view of getting technolo tice of the House. Shri Mlahra may gy, they can have a technological ag provide other instances if he can. reement, if they think it necessary, But I do not think he can. Anyway, to improve the production of trucks I do not know why he i$ quarrelling by Bjrlas in Hindustan Motors. But with sne On this. why are they permiting in the name of technology his foreign multi-natio I would, therefore, like the Minister nal giant to come in and acquire one to make a statement sometime, now third of the equity of this company? or later on, as to what prompted Gov This will be opening the thin end or ernment to flout its own existing the wedge by which in future perhaps guidelines. It is in order to encourage such most anti-national type of agree through this method more inflow in ments wil be multiplied. future of US private capital into Indian companies? Therefore, I consider this to be a SHRI PILOO MODY; Belated wis very serious matter affecting the basic dom. ' || policy of Government and Govern ment should come forward and tell SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I would us wlhat is exactly behind this deal. Just mention that Tatas who also ma nufacture trucks in TELCO were as THE MINISTER OF HEAVY IN ked by the Government sometime DUSTRY (SHRI T. A. PAI): I would back to terminate their collaboration like to make it clear that Govern agreement with Daimler Benz for the ment has not come to any decision on manufacture of Mercedes trucks. But the proposal that is before it that the here in this particular case, on the General Motors.. plea of getting technical knowhow for the production of trucks by Hin dustan Motors, General Motors of USA SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: At what is being allowed to take over one stage is it now? third of the equity of this Indian company. I would like to know whe SHRI T. A. PAI: Under considera ther it is a fact that a Committee had tion. been set up by the Ministry of Indus trial Development which, inter alia, said; in its report: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Since when? <(Foreigh equity particpation is not SHRI T. A. PAI: I would not like essential for procurment of techno at this stage even to be pressurised to logy. Direct foreign equity partici say Yes or No. But I would like to pation tends to increase the techno place the facts before the House. logical dependence and has a possi bility of direct or indirect influence SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: in management policy” . Has the Monopolies Commission re commended it? I want to know what has happened to that report, that recommendation. Why has it been shelved? Why in SHJBI T. A. PAI; All the Acts in this blatant and n?ked way is Govern foree w ill be observed nothing iryegula- ment giving its approval to someth ler will b» gone. But even this matter ing which is quite unprecedented and is taken up for consideration and even 358 L.S .—8 3?7 Matter* under Rule 377 A FR IL 17, 1874 Matters j*»d«r Kul« S72 228 CShri T. A. Pal] these tw0 companies. We have been trying to see why the licensed capacity before the Government comes to a de* in the other units could pot also be cision >tb say that we have come to a fully utilised rather than fresh invest decision on this is not correct. ment capital being made. I would like to place before the We have found that Hindustan Mo House the proposal. tors is not able to get over certain de sign manufacturing problems. A pro SHRI PILOO MODY; T hey are me posal has come before the Government. rely building up a lobby {Interrup tions). SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: From whom? 14 his. SHRI T. A. PAI: Birlas-r-that, with the General Motors if they are allow SHEI T. A. PAI: The authorised ed to participate by giving 30 per capital of Hindustan Motors is Rs. 20 cent in equity capital—the authoris crores and paid up capital Rs. 13.42 ed capital being Rs. 20 crores. crores, out of which 31 pe rcent is held by the public flnacial institutions. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: What The Birla’s family directly holds. 1.49 is the amount of borrowing from pub per cent and the Birla group of com lic financial institutions. panies hold 10.95 per cent. I am placing these facts so that you may SHRI T. A. PAI: Very considerable. draw your own inference. Hindustan I do not have that information. This Motors, as the House knows, has been is not relevant. You are only stren making the Ambassader car. It did gthening my case that Hindustan not have collaboration for making Motors belongs to the Government the truck. It has a licensed eapacity more than to Birlas. for making 15,000 Bedford trucks. But it has not been able to make more SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Exactly. than 2,500 because the trucks are not SHRI T. A. PAI: How does it wea saleable and their engine perfor ken my case? mance is not supposed to be good. Now, this is supposed to be the licen SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: What sed capacity within the country for is your case? making trucks, along with Premiers also, who have a licensed capacity for SHRI T. A. PAI: Ultimately, the 15,000 trucks but who did not make proposal is before the Government more than 6,000 because they could that we Should permit, on condition, not have a suitable engine. So, the that the components and assemblies country ig dependent on Telco and worth Rs. 7 crores every year would Ashok Leyland for the requirements be exported they are permitted to pf commercial vehicles of seven ton have an equity participation for 10 nes rind above. To me®$ require years. ments of the public transport system, for providing buses all over the SHEI INDRAJIT GUPTA: How does nationalised transport system and the it help us? trucks also all over the country we are dependent upon Telco and Ashok SHRI T. A. PAI: I am not arguing Leyland. We have permitted Telco to my case, because a decision has not expand their capacity from 24,000 to been made. But I do not want also fc6,0©0 and Ashok Leyland from 5,400 the criticisms to be irresponsibl«. The to 10,000. This means an availability Government would like t6 take aH afterexpanskm. of 46,000 trucks from the facts in to consideration, as to how .*29 Matters under CHAITEA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Matters under 230 JRuIe 377 Rule 377 ^ far this proposal would increase cm- SHRI T. A. PAI: It is given out of -ployment in West Bengal; how far it the foreign exchange resources (In helps the country to have exports terruptions). worth Rs. 7 crores. If the House says, -“We do not want it because it if Merely because a proposal is before equity participation,’ it is open to it Government, we cannot be pre ‘to say so. The proposal before the empted from considering it All I am 'Government is, the six crores that saving is that I am one of those who they are going to bring in the shape do not believe that what is good for •of equity upgrade and bring the te General Motors is good for India. chnical knowhow—no other remittan What we ultimately decide will be on ces except the dividend if the com the basis of what is good for India. pany makes a profit— SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; What is SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: What is good for Birlas is good for India? ‘ the real value of the machinery? SHRI T. A. PAI: If what is good for SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: For Birlas is good for India. I do not think getting their technology or what? we should object. SHRI T. A. PAI: I am only saying SHRI PILOO MODY: I do not the proposal before the Government is think that what is good for the Soviet that they may be allowed to invest Union is good for India. Rs. 6 crores in their equity—if you say that all machinery that may be SHRI T. A. PAI: Therefore, I have needed must be purchased in glooal placed the 'acts before the1 House. tenders I have no obection—which is requireed to be imported. Even in the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I do not case of the expansion of Telco from see the connection anyway. 24,000, the foreign exchange involved is about Rs. 12 crores. SHRI PILOO MODY: I do not ex pect you to see the connection; I ex So ultimately any expansion, also pect the other members to see the involves foreign exchange. Here also connection. What they say is that Rs. 6 crores will .be brought in as foreign exchange. SHRI T. A. PAI: No decision has been taken. The newspaper report 'SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Why that the Government has come to a 'cannot you purchase these machines decision is not correct. instead of allowing them to come m •and acquire equities? You can pur SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD chase the machinery worth Rs. 6 cro (Bhagalpur) On a point of submission. nes. We have heard the Minister say that the case is pending with Government. SHRI T. A. PAI; I have not made When in the Country, there is em 'up my mind whether it should be phasis through the successive plana purchased or not. I am only consider that the shares of foreign held com ing whether Rs. 6 crores of foreign ex- panies should be nationalised foreign «change should be permitted. participation in any form should be Indianised this decision it at all it SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: will be Yes, will be in the reverse How is the foreign exchange being gear. We would like to know whether provided in the case of TELCO for Government will give us a chance to expansion? put our point of view in the Houser , \ H31 Matters under Rule 377 APRIL 17, 1974 Matters untfer Rule 377 232: iShri Bhagwat Jha Aasad] MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Order, order. I take decisions about admis It is not only we but Mr. Schriber in sion of these notices under rule 377, great French writer, who has said say, 15 minutes or 20 minutes before that if these multi-national corpora 11. As far as possible, the moment we tions ard allowed to operate, as they take a decision, We inform the are operating, in Europe, in another Minister try to inform the Minister ten years it wiU be a colony of Ame when the Minister is ready and he rica. I am not saying this, but French volunteers to come forward, the House wi iters people have said it. I hope the is benefited because it gets the infor Minister lhas read that book. mation. In other cases where the Minister could not be informed or If TELCO could be given foreign where he says ‘I am not ready for exchange to purchase the machinery, this’, the member raises it and the why should not Hindustan Motors be matter is passed on to the Minister. allowed to do likewise? This is an This is about all, we had under Rule important policy decision and Gov 377. This subject is a very sensitive ernment must say that this multi subject, it appears, members say pro-* national corporation will not be al vocative, provocate for good or pro lowed to put their foot into this vocative for bad, I do not know. But country and make it another colony if I allow this, then it becomes a of America. Therefore, we want that debate. Then, I g obeyond the limits our views should be heard before of Rule 377. Very often, when Mem Government takes a decision on this bers go beyond their limits, I allow issue. them and then pull them back. That is SHRI PILOO MODY: I think this is how I run this Houses Mr. Azad has a matter for the party caucus, not for made a legitimate demand that it Parliament. should not end here and Members should be allowed to express thexn- SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD; If selves on this issue. Some other way they can do it in the case of nectieg should be found. But do not take this and under garments, why not do it in opportunity to raise a debatfl now. the case of motor cars? (Interrup Let us end it here. tions). SHRI BHAGAT JHA AZAD: Ait MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am important statement has been made. concen with regulating the procee We only request, Sir, that we may be dings. This is under rule 377 which given a chance to express our views, Shri Indra'jit Gupta raised. The This is what we are asking for. Minister is here and he replied. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): SHRI JAGANNATHRAO JOSHI Sir, my submission is, after hearing the statement by Mr. Xndragit Gupta (Shajapur): Was it a stage-managed and the reply given by the Minister, affair, that the issue was raised and immediately it was replied to? I feel that before taking any final de cision---- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: f do not MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Ban- now whether you were here to hear erjee, kindly understand. Mr. Gupta the Minister. You just came in, did has said that we should not allow this not know what had happened and matter to end here. Why do you want started saying something. to drag on? Let us stop here and then try to see what else can be done. SHRI JAGANNATHRAJO JOSHI: How was the Minister ready with the SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: I want an statementt assurance. 333 Mutters under CHAITRA 27, 1896 ( SAKA) Matters under Rule 377 Rule 377 MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: What national corporations are very power assurance? ful and they are in a position to top ple Governments. But, we are not SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: The ques likely to allow them to function in our tion is, before taking any final decision country in such a way that we are so either in the Cabinet---- weak.— (Interruptions) SHRI PILOO MODY: The CPI must be consulted. Our prejudice against the multi national corporations is one thing. But, SHRI S. M. BANERJEE; Mr. Piloo I would like to tell the House that it Mody may be happy. That is adiffe- is up to the House to make up its mind rent matter. He can express himself. as to what we should have in this But my point is, this House must be country Now, we talked about TEL given an opportunity to discuss this CO. TELCO has a collaboration with matter before any decision is taken Mercedez Benz for the last several by the Government. years MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; That is a SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: That is good point made. being terminated now. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Sir, I SHRI T. A. PAI: It has been termi want clear and categorical replies nated. But, they still hold 14 per cent from the hon. Minister, Firstly, what of the capital. There are many multi is preventing them from releasing the national companies which are holding required amount of foreign exchange capital in this country. Ashok Ley- m favour of Hindustan Motors, as it lands has also capital held by Ley- stands now, so as to enable them to lands. My point, so far as the influ produce the type of engine they re ence of capital is concerned, it depends quire? What is the built in capacity on the amount of capital, whether of Telco and Ashok Leyland? How they are old or new. So far as we much they are utilising on three shift are concerned, we only consider how basis. Are they utilising the built in much of our foreign exchange goes capacity? If you ask me. I would say out by way of dividends, whether we ‘no’ Thirdly, the whole world is agita require this capital and whether we ted and the United Nations has set up should permit them to come in or not. a machinery to go into the mis These are the points to be considered conduct of these multi-national corpo on their own merits. Therefore, if this rations who are toppling Governments question has to be decided in consul *everywhere. tation with the House, I think entire policy about any capital held by any (Interruptions) multinational company has t0 be de What I am saying is, when the cided here. By definition, a cosnpany Unites Nations itself has constituted » which operates in more than two Commission to go into the affairs of countries becomes multinational, whe these multi-national corporations and ther it is Prance, Great Britain, U.K* their expansinism, how is it that you the colour of the multinational com have suddenly started moving anti panies will be the same. The matter clock-wise? will certainly be considered by the Government according to its polky SHRI T. A. PAI: We have not in vited the multi-national corporations and not because we want to help any one particular individual business to come here. We have not de&ded house. that they should not submit any ap plication for our consideration. I can SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): [Shri Vasant Sathe] The exporters often visit foreign' countries and are reported to main of multinational corporations coning tain large bank accounts abroad from the United States. with the funds created by under SHRI PILOO MODY: When the invoicing.” Soviet Union has invited so many multinational companies to come into Whereas important technical books the Soviet Union, why are they dep on science, organic chemistry, biology, riving our country of this benefit? etc. are not allowed to be kept in this country and are being exported, these SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: It very publishing houses are allowed seems the minister’s argument is for to import obscene books, blue films inviting such corporations. Is that the etc. Apart from newspapers and mag Minister’s interpretation 0f Govern azines, the only Indian books that are ment’s policy? Since it is not a ques exported by them are Kama Sutra. I tion of any individual case but of request the Government to take a very the policy of putting in the reverse serious note of this racket and take gear the whole policy of Indianisation, some immediate steps to stop this we demand a discussion on this. racket flourishing under the very nose of Delhi Will you take the necessary SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI steps and assure this House of the (Patna): I support the demand. steps that you are going to take? After (ii) A lleged R acket i n T ext ile E x taking those steps, will you tell the port House whether you have succeeded in stopping this racket? Would the SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): I Minister tell us something on this want to invite the attention of the now? House to another disturbing news of a flourishing racket in the textbook MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Not to export that has appeared today: day. “The Government is reported to SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Sir, 40 be losing at least Rs. SO lakhs an Iranian students have gone on strike nually in foreign exchange in a in front of. . . . flourishing book export racket.... Universities, technical institutions MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I think and colleges in the country are dep you raised it yesterday or the day be rived of important textbooks. This fore. You have to understand that illegal but lucrative export trade every morning we receive notices of reportedly confined to low cost 30 or 40 subjects which Members textbooks being imported from the think are very important. Out of all English Language Book Society, this we have to exercise our subjec London and the Mc-Graw m il tive judgment as1 to which are more Kongakusha Ltd., Japan. important. In all fairness I decided that these two are more important for Two or three publishers in Delhi the country. We cannot go on taking are reported to have specialised in them one after the other. this illegal trade. According to re ports reaching here, one of them SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Let the sought official permission from the Government give some assurance. It Chief Controller of Imports but the Is alleged that somebody high up in CCI is understood to have replied the External .Affairs Ministry has that the subject does not come un been bribed by some Embassy and I der the purview of his department. that is why these boys am treated This was taken as permission, like thia. 237 D.G. Min. of CHAITRA 27, 1899 (SA K A ) Petrol, and 238 Chemicals SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Sir, you DR. LAXMINARAIN PANDEYA: I must have read in this morning’s beg to move: paper that the same glucose was found in some hospitals in Delhi also. “That the demand under the head Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The Gov cals be reduced by Re. 100.” ernment have issued some order that this should not be used. The Minister {.Delay in increasing the capacity of made a statement yesterday. oil refineries. (9)] ‘That the demand under the head Ji.f&Z hr s. Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi DEMANDS FOR GRANTS,-1974-75 cals be reduced by Rs. 100.” M in is t r y of P e tr o leu m a n d C h e m i [Failure in setting up new oil re* fineries. (10)]. cals MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The “That the demand under the head House will now take up discussion Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi and voting on the Demand for Grant cals be reduced by Rs. 100.” No. 70 relating to the Petroleum and [Failure to increase production of Chemicals, for which six hours have fertilisers in accordance with the been allotted. increasing requirement thereof in the Sarvashri Shibban Lai Saksena, country. (11)]. S. N,. Singh, Laxminarayan Paxtdeya “That the demand under the head and R. V. Bade have tabled cut Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi motions to the Demands for Grants. I cals be reduced by Rs. 100." would like to know if they are present in the House and desire to move their [Delay in increasing production of cut motions. soda ash in accordance with its re quirement (12)] «ro : “That the Demand under the head t m k vatefr x z m sr^rr 1 Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi cals be reduced by Rs. 100.” 14.28 hrs. [Delay in improving the working of Hindustan Antibiotics. (13)]* [S hri N a w a l K ishore Sin h a in the Chair] “That the demand under the‘head Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi D e m a n d No. 70—M in is t r y of P etro cals be reduced by Rs. 100.” l e u m and C h e m ic a l s [Failure to set up new power alco MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: hol plants in Uttar Pradesh, Rajas than and Madhya Pradesh despite “That a sum not exceeding possibilities thereof (14)]. Rs. 58,58,000 on Revenue Account “That the demand under the head and not exceeding Rs. 200,47,68,000 Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi on Capital Account be granted to cals be reduced by Rs. 100.* the President to complete the sum necessary to defray the charges [Failure to make kerosene easily which will come in course of pay available fen rural areas. (19)]. ment during the year ending the 81st day of March, 1975, in respect “That the demand under the hfead of ‘Ministry of Petroleum and Che Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi mical*.’ ” cals be reduced by Be. 109.** *Moved with the recommendation of thft President. *39 D.G. Min. of APRIL 17, 1974 P«troL and Chemicals 240 [Dr. Laxminarain Pandeya] terests of the country where oil was being produced. However, there it a [Failure to make available diesel positive change in this state of affairs to fanners. (16)]. and with the national awakening the Arab countries have risen to challenge “That the demand under the Head this domination of the imperialist Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi powers in the sphere of oil and this cals be reduced by Rs. 100.” stand of the Arab countries m the sphere of oil has created a world cri [Delay in increasing the capacity sis During the last 20 years the Gov of existing fertiliser plants. (17)]. ernment of India had not adopted any independent policy in regard to oil ‘That the demand under the Head and m fact they were closely linked Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi with the policies pursued by the im cals be reduced by Rs. 100.” perialist powers. We were mostly dependent on the foreign oil company [Delay in setting up new fertiliser for developing our oil resources and plant®. (18)] for the supply of oil products in our country The baneful effect of this ‘That the demand under the near dependence on foreign countries Head Ministry of Petroleum and has been that while the big imperialism Chemicals be reduced by Rs. 100.” powers have been able to resist the crisis that has been created In the oil [Indifference towards exploration world today the position of our coun of oil in the Himalayan region and try has become very precarious. How the Ganga catchment area (19)]. ever, I would like to stress upon the hon. Minister and say that there is no “That the demand under the Head dearth of oil resources in our country Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi and if properly exploited we will be cals be reduced by Rs 100.” able to face the situation rightly and squarely. Availability of ail resources [Indifference towards the setting has been confirmed by research docu up of another fertiliser plant in ments published by Government The Madhya £radeeh despite availability ONGC Review Committee for the of raw materials there. (20)]. year 1971-72 have confirmed this fact also In order to explore these resour “That the demand under the Head ces both on shore and in inland areas, Ministry of Petroleum and Chemi steps have been taken for exploration cals be reduced by Rs. 100.** of these resources by the ONGC Hew- ever, these explorations are facing [Failure to check rising prices of some difficulties which are mainly petrol and kerosene. (21)]. bureaucratic The oil experts of the Government of India hold the view MR. CHAIRMAN: The cut motions that enough oil resources are avail are also before the House. able in Bodra area in West Bengal, in Assam and in Triputa but unfortu 'SHRI BIREN DTJTTA (Tripura nately this view of the experts is not West): Mr. CEtflrman, Sir, I rise to being shared and is being ignored V speak on the Demands for the Minis the Project Managers who have been try of Petroleum and Chemicals. At posted in these areas and who boss the very outset I would like to say, over the technical experts. Drilling Sir, that during all these years impe work has been abandoned without rialist powers had evolved an oil much justification at many places not polity which was beneficial to them because oil is not available in those and natatwUy it was against the in areas but because adequate interest is •The original speech was delivered in Bengali -24! D.G. Min. of CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Petrol, and Chemicals not being taken the Project Mana These foreign companies have also gers to pursue the matter in right ear agreed to bear the entire costs of nest. Sir, the drilling work is now the exploration work and in lieu jgoing oh in Tripura hut I am afraid thereof they have demanded that a that the present effort may not end share of oil be given to them when in futility as in Bodra in West Bengal found in these areas. What does this merely because the Project Manager mean? Does it not mean clearly that here is not willing to accept advice these areas are really oil rich as o f the technical expert nor is he in otherwise why should the foreign terested in pursuing the venture in companies be interested in them and the right earnest. He is issuing orders it it is so does it also not mean that in such a manner that a near crisis these areas have been abandoned by -situation prevails between the wor the ONGC without much honest kers and Project Manager. I Have al efforts. In these circumstances it is ready written to the hon. Minister absolutely essential that we should about the Project Manager and his repose complete faith and confidence •doings. As a result a Vigilance Com in our own oil experts and allow mittee had been sent to inquire into them to function unhindered by bur the matter and even though inquiry eaucratic pressures. What an ama has been completed the report is yet zing thing has been achieved beyond to be made available. I hope the hon. the Himalayas? Having started Minister will take personal interest to much later than us China today is see that the conflict between the Pro producing oil in such quantity which ject Manager and the oil experts do is a matter of envy even for the im not harm the cause of oil prospecting perialists countries of the world. How in Tripura. Sir, it is not only in Tri have then done it? They have de pura but it has been conceded by pended not on the capitalists world, many high powered committee that not on the self seeking bureaucratic due to lack of persuasive efforts much or profiteers but on their own o£T ex of the oil resources have remained perts and surely this confidence has -untapped and untraced by the ONGC. paid them rich dividends. In our The Malaviya Committee has held own national interests it is impera thiB view and I quote, 4‘in the opinion tive that we should give same impor of the Malaviya Committee, ONGC’s tance to our own oil experts rather •operation left enough scope of doubt than depending on foreign experts or that oil might have been missed in foreign collaboration projects. Ttoles spite of its presence in certain forma a drastic change is introduced id out tions.” It is our firm Belief Sir, that personnel policies I am afraid Sir, the the areas of Assam, West Bengal and country is in for greater difficulties— Tripura are rich in oil resources and much greater than those enumerated this has been confirmed by the Minis in the annual report. The report it try’s last report. But merely saying self says that for the import of fine so is not enough. What is really need and crude oil the country had to ed is that sincere efforts must be spend sum of Rs. 300 crores during made to locate resources and also 1973-74 and the estimate for the 1974- follow up actions taken for their 75 is for Rs. 1300/- crores. We also proper exploitation. There is learn from the report Sir, that the another ominous aspect of this matter. country produced only 1(3 of its re* Sir, and I would like to etress upon quirements and the rest 2(3 has to be it here and now. I understand Sir imported. This obviously means that that many foreign oil companies have the country's drain on foreign ex giveh their offers to the Government change would not only be colossal ■of India to re-explore the regions and continuous but this huge ex which have been abandoned by ONGC penditure will also adversely effect alter some exploration work on the other economic activities which will 8fo&nd that oil is not available there. be handicapped by the shortages of D.G. Min. of APRIL 17, 1974 Petrol and OiemieaU 244 [Shri Biren I>utta] Therefore this is patent that the Gov ernment had allowed malpn&tices to continue before the order was issued funds. To obviate these difficulties it and even today when the order is in is but imperative that all our efforts force the malpractices have in no way for oil exploration have to be galvani been lessened. There is an acute de sed to a higher pitch and we have to mand for furnace oil for the industry find out our own oil resources to and in fact for all developmental work. meet our demands. The report also Unfortunately the hon. Minister’s says that the Government Is contem office does not appear to be least affec plating to enter into collaboration with ted by all such distress calls' for Uaey foreign oil companies for the explora have not yet taken any positive tion of oil resources in the off shore measure to tnake adequate supplies, areas and this is expected to speed up available to the industry and other our efforts to discover oil resources. I ventures leading to developmental do not know the names of the "foreign work. companies who have offered to colla borate with us. Sir, only a little Sir, now I would like to say a few while ago the House had discussed the words about the acute scarcity of role played by the Multi-National kerosene. Crores of people in our Corporations all over the world. It country today are being forced to live has also been established that these in darkness for kerosene is not avail Multi-National Corporations extend able to them. When this is the situa their economic strangle hold on the tion we find that Government sud countries where they operate and denly reduced the production of kero convert them in to virtual slaves. If sene. We do not know exactly how these foreign companies who have much is being reduced—whether it is offered to explore our off shore areas 25 per cent or more. We also do not belong to any of the Multi-National know how, as a result of this reduc Corporations, we have to “be extra tion in porduction the States are go cautious and we should not under any ing to be affected. What would be circumstances permit them to spread their reduced share and how much their area of influence to our shores would be retained by the Central also. I would now take up the ques Government. Indeed a very dreadful tion of Lube Oil policy being pursued situation has arisen not only in villa by the Government. The Government ges and but even in towns it is all' have stated in the report that as a dark after the dusk. The cultivators result of the fiscal measures taken by are affected, the middle class is worst- them, consumption will go down hea hit, the students cannot pursue their vily. But the hon. Minister is well studies and even the house wives aware of the fact that the policy has find it difficult to do cooking. In short, not yielded that result nor there is a very very explosive situation is any hopeful indication in that regard. developing fast in our country and I Black marketttag is rampant every must sound a word of caution that where, oil is not being conserved unless immediate steps are taken to scientifically and as a reetilt of all meet this shortage anything can hap these very objectives of the fiscal pen any day and surely the Govern policy has been defeated completely. ment alone will be held responsible The situation with regard to furnace for that. oil is just identical and equally deplo rable. The Government have issued The Ministry’s activities spread over an oil price control Order. The Order many fields. The time at my disposal itself says that there were mal ad is very limited. The bell has been ministration in regard to the distri rung and as such I have to limit my bution of oil and in order to curb this observations to a lew items only. The mal practice the order was issued. report says that production in the 245 jMfiit. °/ CHAITRA 27, 1896 ( SAKA) Petrol, and 246. Chemicals anti-Biotic plant at Rishikesh was duce fertilizer to its capacity because suspended lo r quite some time. It is of the shortage of power. It sounds necessary Sir, to institute a thorough paradoxical that this factory shoulj inquiry to find out whether any sub also suffer being so near to the hydro standard medicines were produced at power producing plant. As a result of this plant and the reasons which had the huge shortfall in production of led to the suspension of work at this fertilizer agriculture is faced with a plant. There is another aspect o£ the crisis situation. It is but natural that matter which needs careful investiga when the production is low and the tion. The anti-biotic plant is supply demand is high the produce tends to. ing medicines in bottles in private find its way into the blackmarket and sector drugs companies at cheaper it is a common knowledge that toiay rates. These companies then put the the agriculturists are not getting their same medicine in ampoules of their share of fertilizer at controlled price. own and sell them in the market at At this rate it is impossible for tne a premium. Thus we find that pri poor cultivators to purchase the ferti vate companies are fleecing the ailing lizer at the black market price and and the poor and making huge profits if the situation continues surely the out of the material which they are cultivators will have to abandon cul getting very cheap from the Govern tivation. I would therefore urge that ment. I would therefore suggest that the hon. Minister must prevail up'jn instead of allowing the private com the Ministry of Irrigation and Power panies to reap such huge profits at the and ensure that the major fertilizer cost of the poor persons of our coun factories of our country like those at try it would be far more better if Trombay, Gorakhpur, Namrup and these medicines are bottled in am Nangal should be supplied with ade poules at Rishikesh plant and then sold quate power so that production of fer directliy to the people. If necessary tilizer is not hampered and it does not the price may be raised marginally bring in its trial a catastrophy in the by 5 to 10 paise but in that case also agricultural field. I would request the the ultimate cost would be much hon. Minister to realise that by pro cheaper than what is being charged viding adequate supply of fertilizers by the private companies. to the agriculturists, he will not be saving the country from starvation Sir, “Sorbitrate” is a very essential but a good agriculture would also, medicine for the heart patient. Hither mean a good aid to industry and com to the patients could buy a packet merce. Viewed from this angle the containing hundred tablets but the hon. Minister's role is indeed’ very company has suspended issuing this significant and I hope he will realise packet of hundered and instead they it try to fulfil it to the satisfaction of have flooded the market with packets the agriculturists, the industry and the containing 500 tablets and prices have commerce wih these words Sir, I con also been increased. Thus Sir, the clude. poor man is being forced to buy a packet of 500 for which he may not SHRI RAJA KULKARNI (Bombay have the ready money. I would there Norih-East); Oil iby nature is an fore urge upon the hon. Minister that explosive comxpodity right from its he may kindly look into this matter inception but prices of oil were not and see that the difficulties of the poor treated as explosive because they were patients are removed immediately. quite smooth and going On nicely for a number of decades. It is only since The report has made it very clear 1973 that prices of oil product have that production of fertilizer in all the become very explosive. plants in our country is much less as compared to the earlier yean. It 2s For any country, the question is not indeed surprising that the Nanfal limited only to secure a particular Fertilizer Project is not able to pro quantity of crude oil at reasonable. 3 4 7 0 0. Min. of APRIL 17, K74 Petrol, and Chemical* 248 [Shri Raja Kulkarni] national diplomacy in order to protect prices. The question is wider and our interests. How long are we going goes beyond the limits of the develop to reJy on the goodwill of the Arab ment of oil industry itself. During countnes which ate the oil producing 1973, the behaviour of oil prices high countries? During last year we relied lighted the integrated character—both on their goodwill because we suppos regional integration &s well as the ed their cause politically. Temporarily functional integration—at the global we were able to solve the problem of level. That is why, I say that the the availability of crude to some comprehensive nature of different extent by entering into an agreements types of energy resources; and their with Iraq, Iran and Saudi-Arabia, corelationship has come to the surface. Kuwait and other countries. Are we The whole economy is disturbed. We going to rely on goodwill for a perma have the Petroleum Ministry which nent basis? Is our oil diplomacy at function as a separate and indepen the global level going to depend inde dent Ministry since 1973. Can we finitely on the goodwill of the oil pro meet this challenge of the oil situation ducing countries or are we going to both inside our own country as well create collective sanctions on the at the global level. basis of independence and mutual benefit in addition to our efforts in We need certain efforts at the inter developing our own indigenous national level to meet this challenge. resauce of crude production. At the We have to develop oil diplomacy at global level are we known as the ail the global level. I do not know what consuming country and we will remain efforts our Ministry hag made in this so far a number of years during which regard. But, the special cession of we will be importing crude. There the U.N. General Assembly is meeting fore, I say that we should evolve in New York at present to discuss this certain methods by which the interests very problem. It will continue to of the consuming countries are protec meet for some days more also. It had ted at the international level. In the been convened because it was thought absence of collective sanctions the at the international level for the first only other alternative left to us is to time to protect the world from the wait for some split in the oil producing adverse effects of the economic war countries which 'might take place fare of the oil producing countries in during the course of the next year or the Middle-East from the time when so. On the question of prices and national war began in October last investment the oil producing countries between Israel and the Middle-east may face their own internal problems. countries. Oil being used as the wea Are we going to wait for some kind pon of economic warfare, the meeting of a split that is coming up in the is going on in the U.N. to decide about O.P.E.C, countries and making this, oil prices, energy crisis and distribu as the basis of our oil'strategy? tion of scarce raw materials. All the energy resources of the world can also In order to protect our own strategy “be user) as weapons for the economic for oil in this country, we must have peace if they could be used as weapons a suitable international oU diplomacy of economic warfare. 7t is gratifying and the time has now come for the to note that develooing countries same. We would, therefore, like the wMrh 8Tp attending tills special session Petroleum Minister to take the House *of the General AssejriMv of the U.N. into confidence and tell us whether are working out some kind of a for that diplomacy exist, and if 40, what mula to protect their interests. the efforts are, and what new strategy the Ministry and the Government We would like to know whether have adopted to met the challengeof -our Ministry have evolved its inter oil since last year. 249 D.G. Min. of CHAITEA 27, 189 6 (SAKA) Petrol, and 250 Chemicals Thtre is no doubt that efforts have curtail the production of kerosene for been made but again they are all only coking purposes in towns* we must piece-meal efforts. Efforts have been provide some alternative sources for made to reduce the consumption, of cooking, whethre it be by gaesification kerosene by reducing its production at oi coal or from other alternative sour the raf.nery level. Efforts have been ces. Otherwise the situation would be made to cut down the production of explosive again. Consumption of fur- furnace oil also. The cut which was nance oil is to be cut down, we must 10 per cent before has now been in find out alternative based on coal tech creased to 15 per cent. But my point nology. 40 to 60 per cent of our petro is that our strategy for oil which is leum products, naphta, is consumed still only a piece-meal effort needs to tor fertiliser. What is the other tech be replaced by a more comprehensive nology that we should use successfully. and cohesive strategy. We must know Dieselisation programme of Railways to what extent the consumption or the & road transport is to be cut down, use of oil, whether by the citizens or will it not adversely affect industrial by the industries, is to be cut. We production? must also know the extent to which the use of oil in the national economy These are problem of strategy which has to be cut. have to be solved. It is no use It has been estimated by the Minis handling them in a piecemeal way. try that the cost of crude oil imports There should be co-ordination with during 1974-75 would be about Rs. 1800 the Industrial Development Ministry, crores. From where is this money the Railway Ministry, the Steel going to be provided for? If it is to Ministry and also the Ministry ef be at the cost of some other imports, Planning. There has to be a co-ordi and if 80 to 90 per cent of our export nated plan for a change over from oil earnings are going to be taken away technology to coal based energy and by the oil imports, then I would sug other methods of conversion. A cohe gest that our strategy must be based sive plan is lacking. on a solid foundation and on close co operation, not only in relation to our We were told that there was to be* export-orinted industries but in rela an energy board. There was an tion to the whole production structure. announcement in the Press and we- If the country has to meet the chal have not heard anything more about lenge of the oil crisis then these are it, about its functions or composition. the criteria which have to be adopted We want a comprehensive policy ’ on for having a cohesive and solid new energy resources to be formulated as strategy for oil. soon as possible. We have been told about the Now I want to go to the other pro appointment of a Fuel Policy Com blem. Our planning to raise indigen mittee. But although nearly ten ous crude and to expand refining' months have elapsed, the Teport of capacity. This also raise the issue that committee ha8 not yet come out. whether the instruments we have Therefore, we do not know to What created are equipped for the purpose. extent oil is going to be cut down We had a joint survey made by Indian ■without affecting the production of and Russian experts and the recom commodities; to what extent coal is to mendations of this joint techno-econo- be used in place of oil, and what the mic survey, had been put into the- technology of this change-over Fifth Plan of this Ministry. To what would be and in what Industries nnd extent are we likely to achieve the during what period. We do not have targets during th« next flve years? a comprehensive Plan ready for change-over from oil technology to Our indigenous crude production coal-based technology. If we want to capacity is expected to go up fro*n* 3 5 I Min. o/ AI RIL 17, 1974 Petrol, and 252 Chemicals [Shri Baja Kulkamij 7.20 million tonnes per year to 11.40 pened in the case of Oil India agree million tonnes per year. Our reserves ment of Assam crude prices. This were estimated to be 175 million agreement which was thought to be tonnes out of which the quantity al good in the beginning proved to be ready recovered runs to about 80 mil bad and against the interests of the lion tonnes; the balance of 115 million nation at a later aiage. The same tenners remains. Another 70 million experience was repeated in the case tonnes of reserves might be located of the Madras refinery agreement; the -during the next five years. same experience was found in the case of the Cochin refinery also. Now, This leads us to the conclusion that we do not wish that the same ex 'even if we reach the target of 11-12 perience is repeated for the supply of million tonnes a year during the next crude to the Mathura refinery or for four or five years, our country will the expansion of the Gujarat re have to import crude inspite of the finery for the supply of crude. We new strategy of conversion, from oil wish that this agreement proves to •technology to coal technology. We are be in the interests of the country, not doing offshore drilling. We have taken only from the monetary point of view oil fields in Iraq. We have entered but from all other points of view. into long term agreement for supply of crude to Mathura refinery. There If the crude availability is there, then alone we will reach the targets Jiave been two agreements with Iraq. for our refineries. We are creating The first agreement, last year, was for a refinery capacity to the level of the supply of crude to Mathura refi nery, to the extent of 112 million more than 36 million tonnes. We do not want a problem of underutilised tonnes over a period of ten years, capacity to arise in future. I wish from the date of commissioning of the that problem does not come up with Mathura refinery. A fortnight ago the proper organisations that exist. we entered into a new agreement by which we will be importing from Iraq ONGC and Oil India have poor per about 2.8 million tonnes during the formance to their credit. We have •current year. The agreement ap two reports. The Ministry is silent pears to be good, but sometimes, throughout the year. What has hap from our experience in the past, we pened to the recommendations of the know that always some kind of mis Malaviya Committee in its report on understanding or misaprehension the ONGC. starts. Now, under the agreement with Iraq, for the supply of crude, THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM part of the price has to be paid in AND CHEMICALS (SHRI D. K. cash and for the other part, we have BOROOAH): Shri Malaviya has be a loan of 110 million dollars to be come Minister! repaid within five years. There is a SHRI RAJA KULKARNI: True; grace period of five years and there but he is in charge of steel and mines. is an interest of 2.5 per cent. All But the committee's report remains •these things are there. unimplemented. I am concerned with the recommendations made But many times what has happ*5>etl therein. We would like to know in the past with regard to our agree what has happened to the status of ments with foreign companies is that the ONGC; whether it is one ONGC •fhfe agreements with outside agencies or two ONGCs or nothing at all We have ultimately proved to be against do not know. Let the Minister take our interests at a later stage. It hap- us into confidence. 353 MU 0/ CHAITRA 27, 180 6 (SAKA) Petrol, and 254 Chemicals There was also a report of the confusion about the character of the Public Undertakings Committee. We action taken do not know what has happened to that report. We are demanding' a probe into the working of Oil India. 15 hrs. The 1971 accounts of Oil India which is in charge of exploration and drill The second example is about the ing work in the Assam area, are still price of naphtha. The naphtha pnce not closed. The Law Ministry has was increased twice in 1973. It is not allowed this company to keep all right because the price of all pet those accounts open and yet they roleum products bad increased. One are still open and they are not clo increase was in June and another in sed, and they have not come to this August. But on 2nd March this year House. This is because there is a dis all of a sudden the price was increa pute over the pricing and implemen sed from Rs. 445 to Rs. 2500. It was tation of the agreement between the a fantastic increase and we do not Government and the company. Let know on what was the basis? Why the Government take us into confi such imaginary rate of increase was dence about Oil India. We demand a recommended by the Petroleum Minis probe into the working o f Oil India. try? They never visualised what This is necessary for increasing indi would be the impact on employment genous crude production. or production or how it would affect the other petro chemical units or che We have the Indian Oil Corporation. mical procesing units. They realised There are other aspects; I do not very late and corrected that. One ■go into the working of the Indian Oil could compliment them that they were Corporation and the Fertiliser Cor responsive. When its impact on em poration They are known for bad, ployment was brought to their notice, inefficient and corrupt administration. they climbed down and the mistake was corrected. But such mistakes 1 shall take only two or three mi undermine the confidence in the de nutes more on two issues. I am not cisions and actions taken by the Minis talking about Indian Oil. I am talk try Every action which amounts to ing about the Ministry’s oil policy. increasing the price of any product There are two examples relating to must be a considered action and a the decisions in 1973. We find that justified action. People must feel con while the measures were good and the vinced about it. proposals were good, the handling of these issues and measures was so bad I now come to the petro-chemicals that the original good intentions were wherein there is a completed mess in •all vitiated. distribution, prices and even in pro duction. Heavy reliance on IFCL has One was the Esso-take over. It cost the country very much. was a very good measure but the way in which it was handled, created Due to the delay in the commis confusion. The whole agreement has sioning of IPCL, the cost to the nation not been revealed. So people feel is more than Rs. 85 crores. It is a that we have given more compensa 14 project complex but is not com tion to the international oil company. ing up according to schedule. Its two •The good initiative taken by the Pet- compressors are reported to be not Toleum Minister ultimately proved to working and all the other industries be something which was not to any which depend upon it are not getting body's liking. He does not call it the material. The country has to nationalisation. We feel that it is pay foeavily for importing industrial phased out nationalisation. There is raw material. 255 D.G. Min. of APRIL 17, 1074 Petrol, and Chemical* t 5& [Shri Raja Kulkami] to diesel and from wax te cosmetics, everything relates to this Ministry. Then there is the question of the drug prices. The question of the This Ministry also keeps the wheel' moving, and as the wheel moves, the revision of prices of bulk drugs, about wheels of progress of the country Also* 23 or 25 of them produced in the move. Therefore, the progress of the’ country was taken up in 1970 and the country in a sense, depends solely on ■whole matter was referred to the the soldiers of this Ministry. Bureau of Industrial Cost and prices which submitted its report recom Sir, there is the energy crisis: there mending certain pries incrases. Gov is the fuel crisis in our country, so ernment did n°t take any aetion for to say, all over the world. This 18 months. Then they Uhought 1>hat not an isolated problem, in India the prices had gone up and therefore, alone. This is a world problem. in December last, the Ministry again Therefore, there should be a national referred it back to this body for the policy in this regard. I would say, extent of escalation of prices. there should be a policy, strategy and a tactics. So far as policy is. In the meanwhile, industries are concerned, your national policy should* suffering. People are suffering and fit m in the context of the inter malpractices are going on. Are we national situation. Strategy and. to come to the conclusion that Gove- tactics, I would cormpare them with ertiment has bungled on the question the front wheel and the rear wheel of prices of bulk drugs as well as on of a vehicle. The front wheel gives the formulations? We would also like the direction and the rear wheel to know, what has happened to the pushes* the vehicle in the given report of that Committee which was direction. Similarly, our strategy appointed to assess the profitability should be such that it pushes the of the drug units, as a result of the country in a particular direction so> price control order. Subject to these that we may face the problems with remarks, I support the demands. I determination in regard to oil, in hope that the Petroleum and Chemi regard to fertiliser, in regard to cals Ministry will take us into con industrial development and in regard fidence in regard to the points that t0 agricultural growth and we need have been raised. not have to import things, mainly fertilizers, from foreign countries. SHRI BISWANARAYAN SHASTRI (Lakhimpur): Mr. Chairman, Sir, Sir, ONGC and Oil India are the while rising to support the Demands two ma$or organisations which are for Grants in respect of the Ministry entrusted with the tasflc of drilling of Petroleum and Chemicals, I and exploration of oil. In spite o f congratulate the Minister for con the efforts made during the last seve cluding a number of agreements with ral years, the percentage of increase oil producing countries, for the in production of crude in 1972 was benefit of our country. It is also 2.6 an din 1973, it was—2.4. This is a gratifying to note that after ad-hoc dismal picture. This does not lead arrangements, for many years, the us anywhere. On the other band, Ministry has come under an able the quantity of crude imported is hand. We hope that this Ministry increasing year after year and ‘this will be able to 'meet the present is bound t0 increase. We now situation in the country, so far as oil nroduce in India a little more than is concerned. 7 million tonnes of crude whereas our total requirement is about 21 It is c»«nmonly known that from million tonnes, that is roughly one- drugs to nylon, from aviation spirit third and two-thirds are tahportfcd. 257 D,G. Min. of CHATTRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Petrol, and Chemicals it fe in the report of the Ministry along with crude oil is being told for thM during the filth plan period our the manuiacture of fertilisers, power toMul requirements of oil would be generation and other uses.” Only a 40 to 42 million tonnes while our limited portion is given to Namrup production, in spite of aU efforts, will fertiliser factory for production of n$t be more than IX million tonnes. fertiliser and !some percentage was So, while the demand will go on given to Namrup thermal project for increasing year after year, production producing power for the Assam State will not he commensurate with the Electricity Board. The other portions iwrease in consumption. Therefore, have not yet been utilised. Whenever there should he a vigorous effort for there ir, an approach for having this finding more oil reserves in all parts natural gas by tea gardens or other of the country. Then only we shall industries, the answer is, it is be able to have more crude to meet committed to Namrup fertiliser plant. our commitments. Sir, I would like to compare this Oil India Ltd. where Government position with that of a Devdasi. who of India has 50 per cent shares is is betrothed to God. But God never producing constantly 3 million tonnes marries. Yet, she cannot marry or a bit more of crude annually. But anybody also. In the 3ame way, the ONGC, which has the entire India natural gas is committed to Namrup except the 2000 sq. km. in Upper fertilizers. But since that fertiliser Assam, allotted to Oil India, which has not yet been expanded, that gas employs 20,000 people and has vast has not been utilized there, nor is it resources and equipments, hac not supplied to anybody else. It is simply been able to do justice to its existence. burnt out. According to the informa They have not been able to do tion given to me in reply to a remarkable job during the last two or question two or three yearn back the three years. We hope they will be national wastage by burning gas is able to prove their mettle. Oil India to the tune of Es. 60,000 per day. 1 has done a good job in exploring and do not Know whether that figure ha* drilling in Arunachai area. Recently now increased or decreased. we mad in newspapers that there are yast oil resources in Arunachai area. I am told by some experts that in 11% «ther day I asked a question the utilisation of gaa for manufactur about the geological survey to ing fertilizers certain ingredient* are Arunachai area. Binee oil is not a not required and so, even after mineral, it was stated that other utilisation of gas for manufacture of minerals are there. After geological fertilizers, by chemical analysis these survey, geophysical and geochemical ingredients can be utilized for other surveys should be made. There will purposes. Being a lay man I have no be, as we expect, a number of knowledge of it. I hope th« Ministry reserves which can be utilised by Oil will examine thio probability. India. In Arunachai, one well was already dug and it i» producing oil in Kharsang area. I hope to the The price of the gas supplied to recent future there will be more wells the Namrup thermal project has bee* in that region and we shall have more increased along with the increase In crude. the prices of other petroleum pro ducts. I have no fl^ g e against that Natural gas is burnt out day and increase. Applying the same analogy, idsrht all oyer Assam. It is neither I would suggest that the royalty SHEI D. D. DESAI: I have many deficiency in output. In fact, there is more to say but due to lack of time I also deficiency in production of seve win Jump now subjects. ral chemicals in the petro-chemical industries. Number of licences were Regarding drugs we still continue given to private parties. Ultimately to make obsolete drugs; the money their licences were either cancelled spent on them are wasted and they or were extinguished and then pro may be costing us foreign exchange jects were ransferred to the Public also. The Government should look Sector. There is no harm in his, so into the effectiveness of drugs which long as Government does it and we are manufactured. On no account are satisfied that something is really should spurious and take drugs be being done. But, I find that even in allowed to be manufactured. The the matter of naptha cracker, we hon. Minister should have a selective understood about two years ago, that approach. Some people do not even the production was to commence this know that there are possibilities of year. Now I understand that the pro using certain new drugs as remedies duction will commence only in 1976. lor certain cases. It is the Govern I would be happy if this scheme with ment’s responibility to promote pro down stream units is synchronised so duction of these healing drugs. that the gaseous raw materials which We have got two public sector un cannot be stored are pat to use dertakings in the field of drugs; one is uneffective manner. Be careful in selec Hindustan Antibiotics and the other ing equipments. Take for example is IDPL. One of them is not doing the D.M.T. Plant. The compressor is well. The HAL is doing fairly well often not working. I do not know Jn I.D.P.L; the position is not that who bought it. 2400 RMP speed with good. Drug is such an industry where which the compressor is working is we are; always claiming that foreig very high. It is wellknown that slo ners are making a huge profits. If wer the speed the better will be its re thf£ is so, then why should we not liability and ultimately the lesser the earn by rectifying the mistake? cost of production. We have lost a The earlier we do that the better it is huge amount of further, as a result, for us. By putting in generated finan of non-supply of raw materials the cial resources in the drug industry, down stream industries have suffered. we may also meet our own expansion requirements. tr® srem (wftftr) Further, take for instance insecti * [«T * *¥ *ft WM * *rt 1 1 ^ Wigrrr far £ vfw w %^r sr-snf^ 37 rr^ iftT STPT ®TiT E*n*T fa^TRT ^TT|pnT 45{F qr f^rrrin v f ^ , j t 1 ^ ?r rrr^r ^ «&*rcr ¥#r ( *riT tr,rf «ft ^ c T w vrraf 5‘TT* $\*r '3ccfK'i qr %f| f^q^.rT SpTnr % wi^n^r ^ bht t — «ry% % f w ?rcr®r fs ra r f t ^ f ? fr f o "•t4t 1 e w toj-jfoft fa ^ ft aft «r^T?r vr fare % vr?t ^ wt^nf?rcT * m f’TITt aft STiVRW ft *r cwr *?r^ I 3*r 4 w[5T *rrPT9r ^ srk t7^ ^ ^rr it ^ ^ ?r£»r 1 *% for wr| f v n % 1 1 T^fi ^'R “17 per cent fall in fertiliser for kharif crops Availability of retUiser «flT ^ ^ ^?r ^t ^T jrr* w rnw t>* ^ w w < ft s*r 11 srar 3 snrO ^rp ?r> fr^T^Tfr ti 0 1 , &w mqvmr *t %m sfftt 03F f?TT2^ a V q ^ TPEF «fV far q f f % g^r f w % i $ g fa fr iN r ®ft srgcr ^fsre s?, w ^ v ft fw r t ’sftr avnvftfiRE^r ^ ^t^t^rtt fr&r apt ^ ^fr vt fr^TO w ft 5W ii ftw *fr WTRr*f *T Seffit * m r srRrr ff^Y 1 1 mw *z m iff ^fiS SfR ?T^ra |, ^ ?TRr|j *\*v 1 1 %? srm ^ ?T‘irf ^ iff^>«ncMTJT?$STTqi Ifltoqsro 19 tiff. l> . »«rf . » . S *> ■■ ♦■■»«> — HiMJcHC ffTC TTITRx k V lfMCTffRST (Shri Jagannathrao Jovhi in th» ^mr ?rr^ t t t | f w w f a if «ftr Chair.) ft*ff T t •gHRT S. It KRISHNAN (Salem): I would like to contrast this by Mr. Chairman, Sir, on behalf of giving the statistic* of indigenous Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam, I rise production of crude oil. In 1971, the to express my views on the Demand* indigenous production was 71 85 l&lrik for Grants of the Ministry of Petro tonnes, which was 55 per cent more leum and Chemicals for the year then that of 1970 In 1972 the indigen 1974-75. ous production was 73 73 lakh tonnes, which was 2 6 per cent more than that of 1971. But the production in 1973 At the outset, I would like to point was only 7198 lakh tonnes—2.4 j#er out that the import Bill of crude oil tent less than that in 1972. and petroleum products during the year 1974-75 is expected to be of the As the demand for oil produrts- order of Rs 1300 crores. The indi goes up, as the price of crude oil genous production of oil meets only abroad is spiraling up, the indigen one-third of the requirement of the ous production ts declining I would country and the remaining two-thirds like to know the reasons for this requirement is met by imports. On sorry state of affairs I need not say account of price rise of crude oil from that industrial development of the 2 dollars per barrel to 10 dollars par uo Xpwdoaf »bm3 ut oq m *. £j*unoo •The origtDMl *peech nit delivered in TimJL 283 DUG. Min. of APRIL 17, 1974 Petrol, and Chemical* 284 [SHRI £. R. Krishnan] The Government took over the ESSO after assuring Rs. 16 crores as account of shortage of oil. While the compensation in foreign currency. It country cannot afford to import at it understood that negotiations for such exorbitant prices the two- having majority participation in ihirds requirement of oil, it seems Burmah Shell Co., are also on. I that the indigenous production can appeal to the hon. Minister that, after not also meet even the one-third re having realised the pitfalls in the quirement. I would like to know negotiations with ESSO, he should be what steps thg Government propose extra-careful with Burmah Shell. The to take to meet this oil crisis. Burmah Shell as also Caltex should be taken over without paying com The Malavia Committee has made pensation as these foreign oil com many constructive suggestions in re panies have already expropriated gard to the working of the Oil and crores of rupees from this country. Natural Gas Commission entructed, We have 9 refineries in our country, with the responsibility of exploring out of which 5 are In the public sec and exploiting oil within the country. tor and 4 in the private sector. I It is regrettable that the Govern demand that the 4 refineries in the ment have not yet implemented many private sector should be brought of the recommendations of the under public management. Malavia Committee. I would like to know from the Minister the reasons for not implementing the recommen Only yesterday, the hon. Member dations of the Malavia Committee, belonging to my party referred to the which will lead to augment indigen autocratic manner in whidh the ous production of oil. I want to foreign oil companies are announcing know when this will be done. the price ri*®- I do not know whe ther they get the approval of the It has been reported in the Press Government before such announce that the Managing Director of Indian ments. From the way this is being Oil Marketing Division, Shri Kamal- done, it gives an impression that the jit Singh, has resigned. It has also Government are under the domina been reported that the Chairman of tion of these foreign oil companies. Oil India has also resigned. I want In the Annual Report of the Ministry to know the reasons for this sudden it has been mentioned that the Gov spate of resignations from the top ernment would seek the collaboration men of oil industry. It is widely be of foreign oil companies for the pro lieved that there is no rapport bet posed extensive off-shore drilling. I ween the Chairman of Indian Oil am not in a position to appreciate Company, Shri Ramabrahmam, and this attitude of the Government es the two Managing Directors. The pecially in view of what I have Indian Oil Company is meant to stated just now. I would like to know serve the Interests of the country and from the hon. Minister the policy it should not become a victim of the of the Government in this regard. whims and fancies of the top hier archy. This should be clarified by I want to know when the Report the hom Minister in his reply. The of the Oil Prices Committee would be Public Undertakings Committee of ready. Similarly, the Takru Com this House has recently presented a mittee, set up three years ago to well-meaning Report on the Indian investigate the pipe-line deals, has Oil Comoerv. T want to know from not done anythin? so far. I want to the hon. Minister when the recom- know what this Committee has been menrfaticms of the Committee will be. doing during the past three years and Implemented by the Ministry. when its Report will be ready. 2*5 D-G Mm o / CHAITRA 27, 1896 (SAK A) Petrol and 2b6 Chemicals It it not just by raising the price order to direct the depo s of Oil o f petrol leading to 'negligible re Companies to supply kerosene has duction in the consumption the Gov been taken away by the 1972 order. ernment will be able to tackle the The State Government has written grave oil crisis. I regret to point to the Ministry on 26th April 1973 that the Government have not for m this matter. So far, this power mulated any worthwhile scheme, an has not been res 'ored to the State alternate scheme, which will to Government. I would request the «f*ne extent save the country from hon Minister to look into this and the oil crisis. I want to know whe do the needful immediately. ther the Government have devised any programme tor gradually de In Tamil Nadu, again there ig acute creasing the import of crude oil. scarcity of kerosene. The Annual Report refers to the fact that the produc‘ion of kerosene has been cur In these circumstances, the indus tailed to curb consumption The price trial development of Southern States of kerosene has also been raised with has come to a grinding halt On ac the same intention. The State quota count of shortage of wagons, they of kerosene has also been drastically are not getting the required coal. cut. In the rural areas of Tamil The better arrangement would be Nadu there is no kerosene at all On that the coal produced in West Ben account of the fact that Madras Re gal, Bihar, U P etc should be re finery does not produce cooking gas, served for consumption in these there is acute Shortage of kerosene States till the transportation pro in urban areas I heed not impress blem is solved and in the intervening upon the House that kerosene is the period, the Southern States should essential commodity of common people be supplied adequate quantities of of our country and I charge that this furnace oil. At present, th© entire Ministry has failed to meet Its obli furnace oil is consumed by Maha gation to the common people of our rashtra and Gujarat. The iiotL Min country in so far as making adequate ister should ensure adequate supply supplies of kerosene. of furnace oil to Southern States so that the industries there are not A U.N. Team has pointed out that starved of energy. the gas being omitted by Madras Re finery has become a great health hazard for the people of Madras city. I would appeal to the hon. Minister The hon. Minister, Shri Borooah that he should look in*o this and take ^was good enough to despatch ship suitable measures for preparing cook load of kerosene when there was ing gas in the Madras Refinery and acute shortage last year in Tamil also for reducing the health hazard Nadu. Our Chief Minister. Dr. that is threatening the people of Kalaignar Karunanidhi, conveyed to Madras City. him his personal gratitude and the gratitude of the people of Tamil Coming now to chemical fertilisers, Nadu for his prompt action. I would I am sorry to point out that only also like to convey my gratitude to 53 per cent of the installed capacity him Here, I would like to poin* out is being utilised for producing nitro another problem that has arisen in gen Though the instilled capacity Tamil Nadu The 1966 Petroleum for nitrogen is 19.30 lakh tonnes, the Supply and Distribution Order was production in 1973-74 was onlv 10.50 substituted by a similar order to lakh tonnes This was less than the 1972. The power vested with the production in 1972-73 bv 10,000 State Government under the 1966 tonnes It has been mentioned in the D.G. Min. of APRIL 17, 1974 Petrol and ChmtmU 288 CShri x. R. KrUbnan.] ing sufficient quantities of tertlisei* to meet the unfulfilled demand within Annual Report oI the Ministry that the country. due to power shortage and labour disturbances there was a loss of In reply to a Calling Attention No 1,00,000 tonnes in production. In this tice on 22-3-1974, the hon. Minister background, if you look at the pro Shri Shah Nawaz Khan stated that posed creation of 60 lakh tonnes capa- the distribution of fertilisers produced <£ty during the 5th Plan, I feel con in the public sector would be handed strained to say that this will remain over to the State Governments, Simi only on paper and be confined to larly, the cooperatives also would be speeches. 1 am very doubtful whe given greater allocation. I am afraid ther this 5th Flan target of installed that thi-3 seems to be only a paper capacity of 6 million tonnes will be assurance. So far, the State Govern possible of achievement The situa ments have not been entrusted with tion is no better in the case of phos the responsibility of distribution of fer phate and urea. tilisers. I appeal to the hon. Minis Even when there is so much under ter that he should implement unhesi utilisation of installed capacity of tatingly what he states On the floor chemical fertilisers, the Fertiliser o f the House. Corporation of India during 1971-72 made a net profit of Rs. 192 crores 1 would also like to say that there and in 1972-73 a net profit of Rs. 5 42 rfiould not be any question of equit crores. I have no doubt or hesita able distribution of available fertilisers tion in saying that the Corpora among the States. The surplus States tion could make profit only by in in the matter of foodgrains production creasing the price of chemical ferti should naturally get adequate supplies lisers and not on account of any in of fertilisers. For instance, Tamil crease in the production. The pricing Nadu is a surplus state in foodgraina. policy at the Government in regard The State is not only catering to the to chemical fertilisers seems inclined foodgrain needs of the neighbouring to help farmers and land-lords and deficit States, but also rushes food not small farmers. I am inclined to grains to other States in the country- feel that the Government do not want If the allocation of fertilisers to Tamil to achieve full utilisation of the instal Nadu is reduced by any chance, na- led capacity on account of the fear turallv Tamil Nadu also will receive that the prices of fertilisers may coma a set-back in agricultural production. down. I would request the hon. Minister that In 1973-74, the demand for chemical surplus States like Tamil Nadu should fertilisers was 29.76 lakh tonnes. As get larger allocation of fertilisers tn the production of nitrogen was only order to ensure more than sufficient 10.80 lakh tonnes, the Government im foodgrains production. ported 12.89 lakh tonnes of chemical fertilisers. In 1974-75 the demand for I would now come to the Indian dbemieal fertilisers may be still higher. Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Ltd., s*t But, there is acute shortage of fertili up in 1961. This public sector under sers all over the world and the price taking has got a paid-up capital of Rs. is also prohibitive. You know, Sir, 34.05 crores. The Government a# that without adequate supply of ferti India have given long-term loan* of lisers, our agricultural production will Rs. 27 55 crores and abort term loans slump down. I want to know the of Rs. 27.35 crores. Yet, this under steps that the Government propose to taking suffered « loss of Rs. 4,Wt take tor augmenting indigenous pro crores in 1971*72 and a loss of Rs. 3.7* duction of chemical fertilisers to the crores in 1972-73. I want to know installed capacity and also for import from the hon. Minister wbsn Forgecf, Car CH.JJTRA 27, 1896 (SAKA) Permit Case thia•undertaking will reach the treak �irr if � ,,ntlT , it·�m m�ar i even stage. The Surgical Instru�ents_ ;;rr.fifr:;:rr�r � fcf;- �Tfur"{ ^ T r«ft jrpstt? ) t r f t f t $r w r » f t % * z«T sn^ ft ^?rr ^Pr *pt f a t tftr s 4 t t Tt f,# to^ R «n fr rr^f^rn: $rvr t * f t **ft*T& f 1 sr* *rfcT f r w R t Tt srcr faR^sr ft#«FT ^ R « r w f ? w u r n r m i v t f t %*r wt*ff % Tfr «rr m t sft t o m *& f ^ TT T f | f r g ^ T t t t s p w r % fwt ff*% *r % wr? ^ir srr^rvjn?crr | % ? »rrr *r»mn *tt t*t % t*t xr^m r *ftr mft 5TTfr # *f^rr#|; sft ?To [*ft fw rw f?r$J wnr ??r Pr3T«r sr«rr^ v> st v ^ r c r ^ t f r o f WTv^vrornff %t w w % 11 fs The main objectives of the Minis try regarding he development of drug m 4 l i m M * farm ft mmi % *t* industry are:— t «wpn g i W k *rcm : w>c (1) to release the stranglehold of TTWF *r*rrtf %*ta*r*ro*T,«FTXsrt i the foreign firm* on the drug %afar ^srerrc n r m m % T ^ q*ftfnr indurty; i ^ » w r T ^ (2) to develop the public sector ^ % 7*ft t Art* «rwf f t i undertakings so that they occupy the commanding -aft faww w n | ^ fip t^ heights in the industry; and *rrrFft'*#f t t *$■ $ v , * $ t (3) to assist the small and me w & fa«nr fa rm | tfta*ncnr dium scale Indian industries firr*rTt«i? < fsfw ?#!T$*T to develop rapidly and to ac quire the strength to fight -fr ^r tmf «tt T£ta ^ r? «ftr the foreign firms and to pre «w% sre #*ft fowflr v& $& i w vent them from the exploi w z «r% t » ** wwf Tt *r to % tation. t o t s 5T ft * fort «rnr i ^ ^ ot On the one hand this is the posi s J m Mfoc TTt#t*T for % it tion of *he foreign firms while on the %*T%«rr*njfrfffa fr^ m % vif«w * z , other hand the public sector undertak fw ttfr* W?t «W»^igitfirT ings incur losses yeer after year. The equity capital of UMPL as on 31st %*rf*rcrcrr ^4, ^*foi?TW$fiiaF »wrwr IflMh, <1932 was Bs. 27 cssores while the accumulated leas woe Bs. 38 crores. Properly mowed the Indian sector of fiqft Tr tor fiw «*5tr snai «wp*t our indoatry can within Hie next five W fW ftfaq i yearn develop Into a major farce to 299 D.G. Min. of APRIL 17, 1974 Petrol and Chemicals 300 (Shri K. S. Chevdaj to foreign firms? Was it because of pulls and pressures exerted l>y the reckon, with in our country, IDPL former Chairman of The future of Q>PL lies in the ex I would fail in my duty if I do not tent to which it can develop the manu reveal to the House that the Ministry facture of analgin, doxycycline and has recently taken a decision to equate other newer products in our country. foreign firms with Indian firms, whe In the past the Ministry of Petroleum ther big or small having a turnover and Chemicals had not permitted even of Rs. 2 crores by asking them to link the Indian sector to manufacture drugs Up the manufacture of each and every which are produced by the public bulk drug with formulations. This sector undertakings, that is, IDPL and decision applies to foreign *8 well as HAL. When IDPL had fought M/s. the Indian firms when they come for Hoechst and established analgin over ward for expansion or introduction of novalgin of Hoechst, the Ministry of new formulations. It could have been Petroleum and Chemical* decided to alright if this limit had been put only permit Hoechst to manufacture 150 on foreign firms, because they are in tonnes of analgin for their captive possession of permission letters and consumption on the ground that there C.O.B. licences but by equating the should toe no monopoly of either IDPL Indian firms with foreign flfras the or HAL. Why favouritism was shown development of our industry is be- 301 M L Min. of CHAITRA 27, 1896 ( SAKA) Petrol, and 302 Chemicals ing suppressed. A turnover of Bs. 2 (1) The small and medium sector of NSrtre* is nothing to giant foreign firms the drug industry must be adequately Which have built up reserves and supplied with the raw materials at assets of crores of rupees. reasonable prices, wfcwh are canalised through STC and IDPL. This decision taken by the Ministry under the influence of OPPI is illegal (2) Release of canalised items and has been taken without consul through STC and IDPL is eratic. tation with the Cabinet, D.G.T.D., Quite often the quota of one or two D.G.H.S. or even the Ministry of In quarters is given in the third quarter. dustrial Development. The sole Therefore, I suggest that for small intention was to scale down the scale firms, 50 per cent of their quota development of Indian industry and of canalised items should be endor encourage foreign firms. sed on their actual user’s licence. For the large scale sector, if in one quarter, a particular item is not re Another example is the manufacture leased, immediately letter of authority of Niacinamide. Warner Hindustan, should be given to them. a big giant, multi-national foreign firm which manufactures chiclets and repatriates huge profits to its country, (3) All permission letters issued to is being protected in its manufacture foreign firms without legal backing Of B-Picolin by the Ministry of Pet and all COB licences and diversifica roleum and Chemicals and DGTD. tions based on false informations must B-Picolin is used to manufacture Nia be scrapped. cinamide by Warner Hindustan at present. At (present, Warner Hindus tan cannot give sufficient quantity of (4) All proposals given by foreign B-Picolin to the drug industry in our firms must be advertised before giv country. Hence Government has to ing a licence or an expansion. IDMA import it from the same source ab should be consulted about such cases. road. Small-scale firms desiring to enter (5) All Indian manufacturers bulk drugs production like H. C. Shah should be exempted from the com and Associates, who want to develop pulsory 5 per cent export so that Niacinamide from an alternative inter they are not penalised in their im mediate MEP which is cheaper than port licence. These Indian firms have B-Picolin, are not allowed letter of been responsible for bringing down intent under one pretext or another. the prices of drugs which have re So a CBI investigation on the role of mained the monopoly of foreign firms foreign firms is very necessary. I feel for a long time. Indian firms have that -the OPPI must be banned as also been instrumental in importing they increase corruption and nepotism raw materials at cheap prices as in the country. against foreign firms which ate im porting them from their principals at Now a few suggestions— the costliest prices. ME. CHAIRMAN: Oq how to end corruption. (6) Indian organised firms which have idle capacities due to some drugs they manufacture becoming obsolete S ttR l K. S. CHAVDA:... .for the should be allowed to utilise the capa deyelopment of our drug tadqjtry. city by introducing new items even if tf.d ! I f in . of APRIL 17, 1874 Petrol and Chemicals 304 * t m A K s r a w m utataqp # t JgXM4«| d a «rtB a d < * * * « Vy oia m » m ** *** VOrttent « « t o than « planning «M «h we did m a t JM*s per centby way oi WVWWlflaettma. ago and meet with dry well# rather DR. KAILAS (Bombay South); than Adds full of oil. m i le «U»»SHh»g *he Bernoulli of the aCMsfcy ^TV%tMMiih md OmnUmlt, 1 read in the *epo