14980 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 as amended; without amendment (Rept. No. ·By Mr. O'HARA of· Illinois: may our own spirits be as the candle of 3093). Referred to the Committee of ·the H. Res. 855. Resolut ion creating a select the Lord. May the great causes that will Whole House on the State of the Union. committee to conduct an investigation and mold the future into the pattern ·of Thy Mr. VINSON: Committee on Armed Serv­ study of fire-insurance underwriters and desire and . design, that will heal the ices. H. R. 9646. A bill to authorize the their ag ~ nt s with particula_r reference to the President to appoint General of the Army met hods and practices employed by them in world and rebuild it, that will create George C. Marshall to the office of Secretary the settlement of fire-insurance claims; to good will and usher in abiding peace, of Defense; without amendment (Rept. No. the Committee on Rules. challenge the best that is in us, and gain 3094). Referred to the Committee of the the supreme allegiance of our love and Whole House on the State of the Union. labor as we serve our brief day. Mr. BECKWORTH: Committee on Inter­ PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS We ask it in the name of the Master state and Foreign Commerce. S. 1292. An Under clause 1 of rule XXII, private of all good workmen. Amen·. act to amend section 32 (a) (2) of the Trad­ bills and resolutions were introduced ing With the Enemy Act; without amend­ THE JOURNf\L . ment (Rept. No. 3095). Referred to the and severally referred, as follows: Committee of the Whole House on the State By Mr. BYRNE of New York: On request of Mr. McFAR.LA~n. and by · of the Union. H. R. 9683. A bill for the relief of Dr. Fer­ unanimous consent, the reading of the nand Van Den Branden; to the Commit­ Journal of the proceedings of Friday, tee on t h e Judiciary. September 15, 1950, was dispensed with. PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS By Mr. DENTON: MESSAGES FROM THE PRESIDENT Under clause 3 of rule XXII, public H. R. 9684. A bill for the relief of William bills and resolutions were introduced ·Ginger; to the Committee on the Judiciary. Messages in writing from the Presi­ and severally referred as follows: By Mr. GORE: dent of the United States submitting . H. R. 9685. A bill for the relief of Mrs. Yo­ nominations were communicated to the By Mr. ABBITT: shiko Kambe Salts; to the Committee on the H. R. 9672. A bill to amend the tobacco Judiciary. Senate by Mr. Miller, one of his secre­ marketing quota provisions of the Agricul• By Mr. KEARNS: . tari~s. tural Adjustment Act of 1938, as amended; H. R. 9686. A bill for the relief of Leo A. ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED DURING RECES~ to the Committee on Agriculture. Ribit zki, Mrs. Charlotte Ribitzki, and Mar­ By Mr. CLEMENTE: .ion A. Ribitzki; to the Committee on the Under authority of the order of the H. R. 9673. A bill to provide for the ap­ Judiciary. senate of the 15th ·i.nstant, · pointment of an additional district judge . By Mr. McCORMACK (by request): The VICE . PRESIDENT announced for the eastern district of New York, and, for H. R. 9687. A bill for· the relief of Warner other purposes; to the Committee on the that on September 16, 1950, he signed Fahrenhold; to the Committee on the Judi­ the enrolled bill Mexico. When the Foreign minutes. alcohol. Relations Committee voted to recommend Mr. WHERRY. I should like to inform The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there ob­ the majority leader that if the request to the Senate that it advise and consent is made there will be no objection that jection to the request of the Senator to the appoin~ment of Mayor O'Dwyer, I from Georgia? The Chair hears none, the President be notified of the con­ voted present. My reasons for voting firmation of the nominations of the Sen­ and 't is so ordered. present were that some questions, which ator from Massachusetts [Mr. LODGE], ORDER OF BUSINESS might or might not be of a serious na­ the Senator from Alabama [Mr. SPARK­ Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, ture, depending upon the evidence that MAN], to be representatives of the under the unanimous-consent agree-... touched on them, were raised in con­ United States to the fifth session of the nection with the nomination of Mayor General Assembly of the United Nations, ment, the time between 12 o'clock and O'Dwyer, both in communications to me 1 o'clock is to be controlled, respectively, and the nomination of Benjamin V. by the Senator from Washington [Mr. and in communications to the chairman Cohen, of New York, to be alternate rep­ MAGNUSON] and the Senator from Wyo­ of the Committee on Foreign Relations. resentative. The mayor was asked to come before the . I believe the nomination of Mr. Cohen ming [Mr. O'MAHONEY] on the so-called Committee on Foreign Relations. Cer­ Great Lakes shipping bill. has not been confirmed. tain of the matters were discussed in The VICE PRESIDENT. It has not NOMINATION OF BENJAMIN V. COHEN­ committee, and it became apparent to OBJECTION WITHDRAWN been. me, at least in my judgment, that there Mr. WHERRY. So the President Mr. HICKENLOOPER. Mr. President, was accessible to the Committee on For­ would not be notified. The other two will the Senator from Washington yield? eign Relations evidence which would have been confirmed. My understanding Mr. MAGNUSON. I yield. completely clear up the matter one way is that when the appointments are con­ Mr. HICKENLOOPER. Mr. President, or the other. I moved that at least part firmed, the Senator from Missouri will on last Friday I entered an objection to of the evidence be secured by the Com­ not object in these cases to the President the confirmation in executive session mittee on Foreign Relations. The com­ being notified, so that the nominees may of the nomination of Benjamin V. Cohen, 'mittee voted my motion down. The evi­ begin their functions in the United of New York, to be alternative represent­ dence was not secured .or examined by Nations. I desired to make this an­ ative of the United States to the Fifth the Committee on Foreign Relations. nouncement. General Assembly of the United Nations. Therefore, in view of that action by the Mr. MAGNUSON. Mr. President, I committee, and its desire to proceed with am afraid this matter will lead to de­ My objection at that time was because its action to recommend the confirma­ of a statement which had been made to bate in which all my time will be taken tion of Mayor O'Dwyer's nomination, I up. I have only about 15 minutes. me with regard to a certain policy which voted present in the committee meeting, would affect this appointment. It was Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, will I am still of the same opinion. Under tne Senator _yield half a minute to me nothing of a personal nature to Mr. the state of the record, I feel I am not Cohen. :t: have since been completely Mr. MAGNUSON. I have yielded to warranted in voting for the confirmation the Senator from Nebraska. satisfied that my objection was not ac­ of Mayor O'Dwyer's nomination to be curate, and therefore, I withdraw any The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator objection to the nomination at this time. Ambassador to Mexico, and also under from Washington yielded to the Senator the state of the record I feel in fairness from Nebraska. The VICE PRESIDENT. The objec­ I am not warranted in voting against it. tion is withdrawn. Mr. WHERRY. I have 3 minutes, and I think it is an unsatisfactory situation if the confirmation is made within my NOMINATION OF WILLIAM O'DWYER from my standpoint, but, so far as any 3 minutes, I shall not object, but if the Mr. HICKENLOOPER. Mr. President, objection which I entered on Friday eve­ Senator from Missouri thinks it will take since I expect to ·ask unanimous consent ning is concerned, I withdraw the ob­ longer, I should like to proceed . to be absent for the remainder of the jection, so that any time the leadership Mr. DONNELL. Will the Senator per­ day, at least after an hour or so, I should wants to bring up the nomination in mit me to say a word? like to make a statement with regard to executive session it may do so. I thank the Senator from Washington. Mr. WHERRY. I yield to the Sen­ the nomination of William O'Dwyer, of ator. New York, to which I objected on last ORDER OF BUSINESS Mr. MAGNUSON. I yield for 3 min­ Friday. I merely desire to say-- The VICE PRESIDENT. Under the utes. The VICE PRESIDENT. Does the unanimous-consent agreement entered . Mr. DONNELL. M:. P1esident, I have Senator from Arizona yield time? into, the time from now until 1 o'clock been very reluctant indeed to waive any Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, I is equally divided between the Senator objections to the notification of the cannot yield any time because there is from Washington [Mr. MAGNUSON] and President in these three cases, not be­ a unanimous-consent agreement, and I the Senator from Wyoming [Mr. cause of opposition to any of the three have no time to yield. O'MAHONEY] on the amendment offered nominees, but on the principle involved. Mr. HICKENLOOPE.R. I merely wish by the Senator from Wyoming to the bill It is very unfortunate that we should to make a brief statement as I expect to sts. As you only get the allowances for standing the effect of the allowance provi­ is made clear in the House report. In money actually spent for repair and conver­ sion, let me first analpgize it to an easily some cases they may run maybe not over sion work, you can see that the procedure understood situation with automobiles. $300,000 or $400,000. This is made clear cet forth in this bill is proper. Supposing a second-hand 1946 Buick has a !Blue Book resale price of $1,000. A customer in the House report, which is a very com­ Mr. MAGNUSON. Substantially this plete report on the bill. The bill was goes into a dealer who informs him that he statement refers to the late costs, near has a 1946 Buick which he is willing to sell reported by the House committee unani­ the tail end of the war, when C-4 ships for $1,000, but that the car is in ba yield to the Senator from for Hawaii and Alaska, and since it has have 5 minutes remaining. The Sen­ Delaware some of the time that may be been handed to the press and to the wire ator from Minnesota [Mr. THYE] wishes allotted to me, in order that he may be services, Members of the Senate will to make a statement. I should also like accommodated in his ·desire to speak. realize the importance of my making the to yield to the Senator from Oregon [Mr. Mr. O'MAHONEY. I am sure there brief statement now. I shall, however, CORDON] for a short statement. I won­ will be no disposition to prevent the Sen­ take the floor at the earliest opportunity der if the Senator from Wyoming is go­ ator from Delaware from making his after the vote is had at 1 o'clock, to pur· ing to use all his time, or if he will allow statement. sue the matter. the Senator from Oregon to have a por­ Mr. MARTIN. Mr. President, will the I want to call to the attention of the tion of his time. Senator yield? Senate in the first place that the As­ Mr. O'MAHONEY. Mr. President, if Mr. O'MAHONEY. I yield. sembly of the United Nations will meet in I may take a few minutes now perhaps I Mr. MARTIN. I also would like the the city of New York tomorrow. Nations can straighten out the situation. opportunity of making a statement. I have already made a statement. The from all over the world, representing Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. President, will peoples of all diversities, will gather to the Senator from Washington yield for statement I now wish to make is very one question? brief. But I feel that in fairness to the determine whether or not in the judg­ Mr. MAGNUSON. Yes. taxpayers and the people of the United ment of the free peoples of the world the Mr. WILLIAMS. As a member of the States, I should make a brief statement. United Nations shall be supported in its committee who opposed the bill in com­ I should like to be given the opportunity effort to resist totalitarian communistic mittee, and who opposed reporting the to.make it. I do not wish to speak under aggression in Asia. We are battling for bill to the calendar, I wish to ask if any the subterfuge of an amendment which the minds of men all over the world. It consideration· is to be given the Senator might. not even be considered ~ermane. has seemed to me that the meeting of the 14986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-. SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 Assembly tomorrow, as well as the ad­ imperialistic concessions. It was .Dr. deeply impressed with the quality and vance of the United Nations forces · in T. F. Tsiang, representative of National­ the persuasiveness of the testimony. I Korea under the leadership of General ist China on the Security Council of the think it was clearly shown that the peo­ MacArthur with a vast preponderance of United Nations, who, in responding last ple of both Hawaii and Alaska ar·e fully American fighting men, makes this the· August to Jacob Malik, of Russia, de­ qualified for citizenship and for state­ psychological time for the Senate to com­ clared that, unlike Russia, the United hood, and that they will become, in their plete action on these bills to enable States never sought political or economic new States, important factors in the Alaska and Hawaii to become States. concessions in China. Our action in giv­ economic and political life of this Alaska and Hawaii are American out- . ing complete independence to the Phil­ country. posts in the Pacific. What we in Con­ ippines is further evidence of our pur­ Mr. O'MAHONEY. I thank the Sen­ gress do now with respect to statehood pose. ator from New York. I know he has for these two Territories will have an Soviet propaganda iterates and reit­ other things to say in regard to this mat­ immediate et!ect throughout the world, erates the colonial lie. Statehood now ter. However, in view of the fact that and particularly throughout the Asiatic for Alaska and Hawaii will be the very the time is limited, and in view of the areas. best proof that we can give that mili­ further fact that I .have taken 14 min­ To make completely successful the tary success in Korea now coming to our utes which should have been available present str'uggle in the Pacific, the Armed Forces and to those of the United to the opposition to the Great Lakes peoples of Asia must be convinced that Nations will mean freedom, both politi­ shipping bill which is now before the the United States does not seek to estab­ cally and economically, to the people of Senate, I am going to yield the floor. lish colonial imperialism, contrary to the Asia. I think the Senator from Delaware accusations of Russian propaganda. Im­ More than that, however, statehood and the Senator from Pennsylvania wish mediate statehood for Alaska and Hawaii for these two Territories will be the re­ to speak. will be the most convincing argument we demption of our historic pledges and our The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator can now make that military success party platform pledges. Furthermore, from Washington and the Senator from against communistic aggression in Ko­ by providing complete self-government Wyoming have control of the time. rea means freedom and self-government through statehood, we will be immeasur­ Mr. MAGNUSON. Mr. President, will for all Asiatic peoples, and not colonial ably strengthening national defense in the Senator from Wyoming permit me subordination. the extreme outposts of our national to associate myself, also, with his re­ In Alaska, 26 percent of the population Territory. marks, in which he has expressed views is composed of Eskimos, Indians, and These are the factors of international similar to my own? Aleuts. The economic and social status policy and of national defense which The VICE PRESIDEN'i'. The Senator of these natives have greatly improved prompt me to urge upon the Senate that, can allocate the time, but he cannot under the American system, as evidenced before this Congress is adjourned, we yield for speeches in his time. by the fact that natives have risen to shall give proof of our good faith to all Mr. O'MAHONEY. Mr. President, a outstanding political distinction in the the peoples of the Pacific and to all the parliamentary inquiry. Territory. Last year, by the unanimous peoples of the world represented in the The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator vote of his 15 white colleagues, Frank Assembly of the United Nations by tak­ will state it. Peratrovich, a native Who has served as ing up for immediate consideration the Mr. O'MAHONEY. Will the Chair Mayor of Klawock, Alaska, was elected two statehood bills. This will be a mes­ state how much time is left for the Sen­ president of the Territorial senate. Six sage of peace and freedom that no iron ator from Washington? out of 40 of the present membership of curtain can withhold from the peoples the Territorial legislature are members of Asia and of communist-dominated The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator from Washington has 7 minutes remain­ of native races; 3 of them being Eskimos. territory. ing. The Senator from Wyoming has 11 Many natives are members of various Mr. CORDON. Mr. President, will the minutes remaining. - Territorial boards. Senator yield? In Hawaii, where citizens of Japanese Mr. O'MAHONEY. I yield. Mr. O'MAHONEY. I yield the . re­ ancestry constitute approximately 39 Mr. CORDON. I wish to associate mainder of my time to the Senator from percent of the population, and more than myself with the sentiments expressed by Delaware, who is a member· of the com­ 19 percent are of Hawaiian or part­ the senior Senator from Wyoming with mittee. Hawaiian origin, a basic tenet of the · reference to both these statehood bills. Mr. President, the Senator from Minn­ Territory has been political equality with I think it will be most unfortunate if esota was on his feet, and I think the no racial discrimination. the Congress adjourns before both these Senator from Washington was about to As in Alaska, where, as already point­ bills have been given adequate consid­ yield tO him. · ed out, a native was elected president of eration. I wish to say that I shall bring up the the senate by his Caucasian colleagues, I regret that they have met with de­ statehood bills immediately following the so also in Hawaii a man of Japanese an­ lay,. delay, delay, ever since the session vote on the pending bill, if I then suc­ cestry, Wilfred C. Tsukiyama, a veteran opened. They were oil the calendar ceed in obtaining the floor. of World War I, a graduate of Coe Col­ when the present session opened; they Mr. THYE. Mr. President- lege in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and the Uni­ · were passed by the House of Representa­ The VICE PRESIDENT. The Sena­ versity of · Chicago, was unanimously tives last year. tor from Minnesota is recognized for.10 % elected president of the Territorial sen­ I wish to say that the Senator from minutes. ate. Wyoming has done all he could do, both Mr. THYE. Mr. President, I, too, Many citizens of Hawaiian blood have in connection with the hearings, where would like to associate myself with the also risen to distinction in the political there was also delay, to conclude the statement just made by the very able life of that Territory. More students hearings, which were somewhat ex­ senior Senator from Wyoming relative to than can be accommodated from all tended, and also to secure consideration statehood for both Alaska and Hawaii, parts of the Pacific area seek an educa­ of the bills on this floor. and likewise with the very able statement tion at the University of Hawaii, a pub­ :i: say in all fairness that the majority made by the senior Senator from Oregon lic institution of learning at Honolulu. in control of proposed legislation on the [Mr. CORDON]. We are accused by Russia of intent to floor of the Senate has need to explain DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF subjugate to colonial status the people the delay which, so far as I can see, was AMERICAN-FLAG SHIPPING ON THE of Korea. We are accused by Russia-­ unnecessary, uncalled for, and most un­ GREAT LAKES and the accusation has been made by fortunate. Jacob Malik at the meetings of the Se­ Mr. LEHMAN. Mr. President, will the The Senate resumed the consideration curity Council of the United Nations-­ Senator yield? of the bill was re- removed to the coastal area were paid Mr. HUMPHREY. Do we not have an ported to the House calendar on July 26, for by the Federal Government at 100 amendment on the desk, and, therefore, 1950. However, the record shows that percent of their appraised valuation. the . prerogative of discussing that the hearings on this measure were con- Since the war, under the Ship Sales Act amendment with 10 minutes on each ducted in the House on March 29, 30, and of 1946, these companies are eligible to side? 31; April 4 and 5; and again on May 18 buy from the reserve fleet ships based The VICE PRESIDENT. An amend­ and 23, prior to the outbreak of war in. upon the conditions contained in the ment is pending. Korea, at which time consideration was Ship Sales Act of 1946 which provides Mr. HUMPHREY. May that amend­ given by the House committee to 33 dif· a discount range as high as 65 percent ment be discussed at this time? f erent bills, all relating to the same sub- from the wartime cost. The VICE PRESIDENT. A quorum ject and resulting in the reporting of· The adoption of this measure, H. R. call has been asked for, and discussion H. R. 8847. 8847, which is now before us provides of the amendment will have to be de­ Contrary to what the Senator from that a further discount will be given to f erred until a quorum is satisfied. Washington [Mr. MAGNUSON], the chair- the purchasers of these ships to the ex­ Mr. HOLLAND. I am willing to man of the Senate subcommittee, has tent of 90 percent of the statutory sales withhold my suggestion of the absence said-:-and I am speaking as a member price. The statutory sales price of a of a quorum. , 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 14989 Mr. WHERRY. If the Senator with· CARTHYl, and the senior Senator from Mr. KILGORE. Mr. President, will holds it, I shall have to suggest the ab­ O:hio [l\4r. TAF'J'] are necessarily absent. the Senator yield? sence of a quorum. · The Senator from Massachusetts [Mr. Mr. HUMPHREY. I have only 5 min­ The VICE · PRESIDENT. The Sena~ LODGE] is absent by leave of the Senate utes. tor from Delaware had already sug­ on official busin.ess as a representative Mr. KILGORE. I have only one ques­ gested the absence of a quorum. The of the United States to the fifth session tion to ask. Secretary will call the roll. of the General Assembly of the United Mr. HUMPHREY. · Very well. The roll was called, and the following Nations. Mr. KILGORE. Has the Senator made Senators answered to their names: The Senator from Nebraska [Mr. BUT­ a study of the increased longevity of Anderson Hill Martin LER] is detained on official business. hulls and machinery in fresh-water op­ Benton Hoey Millikin The VICE PRESIDENT. A quorum is eration as compared with salt-water Cain Holland Morse present. operation? I think the Senator will dis­ Chapman Humphrey Mundt Chavez Hunt Murray The question now is on the amendment cover that steamers last about five times Cordon Ives Neely off,ered by the Senator from Wyoming longer in fresh-water operation than Darby Johnson, Colo. O'Conor [Mr. O'MAHONEY] to strike out the nu­ they do in salt-water operation. There­ Donnell Johnson, Tex. O'Mahoney Douglas Kefauver Robertson meral "90" and to insert in lieu thereof fore steamers used in the Great Lakes Dworshak Kem Russell the number "75" on page 2, line ~4. The service would probably have a greater Ecton Kerr Saltonstall time is equally divided, with the Senator longevity. Ellender Kilgore Schoepp el Ferguson Langer Smith, Maine from Wyoming [Mr. O'MAHONEY] con­ Mr. HUMPHREY. I appreciate the Fulbright Leahy Stennis trolling one-half the time, and the. Sen­ observation of the Senator from West George Lehman Thomas, Okla. ator from Washington [Mr. MAGNUSON] Virginia. Gillette Long Thye the other half. Mr. President, this issue concerns our Graham McClellan \vatkins Green McFarland Wherry Mr. MAGNUSON. Mr. President, I national defense. Let us make no mis­ Gurney McKellar Wiley yield my time to the Senator from Min­ take .about it. I wish to point out to Hendrickson Magnuson Williams nesota [Mr. HUMPHREY]. this honorable body that one of our Hickenlooper Malone Young Mr. O'MAHONEY. Mr. President, I greatest transportation systems is the Mr. McFARLAND. I announce that yield My _ti~e to the Senator from Del­ Great Lakes inland waterway system. the Senator from Virginia [Mr. BYRD], aware [Mr. W1LLIAMs] · and the Senator ·This great inland waterway system the Senator from-Delaware [Mr. FREAR], from Pennsylvania [Mr. MARTIN], to dis~ touches upon the coastlines of the States the Senator from Arizona [Mr. HAYDEN], tri_bute as tpey plea~e. in which r,,mch of our industrial estab­ the Senator from South Carolina [Mr~ Mr. MARTIN. Mr. President, I should lishment is located, and serves our great JOHNSTON], the Senator from Illinois like to make a motion. industrial cities of Chicago, Pittsburgh, [Mr. LUCAS], the Senator from Connecti­ The VICE PRESIDl!:NT. The Chair Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Detroit. cut [Mr. McMAHON], the Senator from cannot entertain a motion at this time, Great industries are located on the Great Pennsylvania [Mr. MYERS], and the Sen­ because the time is equally divided, with Lakes, and to leave that great body of ator from Maryland [Mr. TYDINGS] are· 5 minutes allotted to . each side. The water without adequate shipping facili­ absent on public business. · · Senator from Washington has yielded ties would be stark tragedy in view of The Senator from California [Mr. his 5 minutes to the· Senator from Min­ the international crisis. DOWNEY] is necessarily absent. nesota. _ . . What good are ships when they are The Senator from Mississippi [Mr. Mr. HUMPHREY. Do I understand tied up and rotting and rusting at Gov­ EASTLAND] is absent because Of illness. correctly that 5 minutes is allotted to ernment expense'? On the Great Lakes The Senator from south Carolina [Mr. each side? the ships can be of use in moving grain. MAYBANK], the Senator from Florida The VICE PRESIDENT. That is cor- At this very time in the Midwestern [Mr. PEPPER], and the Senator from rect. - States there are millions of bushels of Utah [Mr, THOMAS] are absent by leave Mr; HUMPHREY. Mr. President, in grain for which there are no· boxcars are. of the Senate. the brief time allotted to me I· wish to being provided. That grairi cannot be The Senator from Alabama [Mr.. make a correction in a statement made by moved. The conversion of these ships SPARKMAN] is absent by leave of-the Sen­ the Senator from Delaware [Mr. WIL­ would make it possible to move the grain. ate on official business, as a represent­ LIAMS]. The Senator from Delaware was In a period of emergency that grain may ative of the United States to the fifth quoting from a letter from Mr. W. Stuart be very important. It is important that session of the General Assembly of the Symington, Director of the National Se­ we have additional ships on the Great United Nations. curity Resources Board, on the question Lakes, and it will be indeed very im­ The Senator from Idaho [Mr. TAYLOR] . whether or not the pending legislation portant to move materials quickly fro·m is absent because of illness in his family. would be in violation of the best prin­ one part of the country to another. I can see that there may be some ob­ The Senator from Kentucky [Mr. ciples of our national defense. The Sen­ ator from Delaware quoted from Mr. jection from some persons on the basis WITHERS] is absent on official business. Symington's message on the value of a that it might interfere with railroad­ Mr. WHERRY. I announce that the reserve fleet for ocean operation in the ing, trucking, or other forms of trans­ Senator from Vermont [Mr. AIKEN], the· event of a war emergency. However, he portation. However, Mr. President, I Senator from New · Hampshire [Mr. did not read the full statement and I submit it is the duty of the Senate to TOBEY], and the Senator from Michigan should like to read it at this time: provide for the total national defense [Mr. VANDENBERG] are absent by leave of In response to your first question, there and for the total welfare, and not give the Senate. would be advantage in having additional consideration to a particular form of The Senator from Vermont [Mr. shipping on the Lakes to provide a more transportation which may at some fu­ FLANDERS] is absent by leave of the Sen­ flexible transportation system to meet pos­ ture time have some difficulty if this ate on official business as a temporary sible emergency demands. kind of legislation passes. The railroads alternate governor of the World Bank. In response to your second. and third ques- have all the business they can take care The Senator from Maine [Mr. BREW­ tions, the laid-up fleet- · of, and then some. They cannot even STER] and the Senator from New Jersey This is what the Senator from Dela­ haul all the grain that awaits shipment. [Mr. SMITH] are absent 'by leave of the ware quoted- They have been grossly negligent in pro­ Senate as representatives of the Ameri­ constitutes a valuable reserve for ocean op­ viding boxcars, at great loss to the Amer­ can group to the Interparliamentary eration in the event of a war emergency. ican economy. Union. Extensive depletion of that reserve- So far as coastal shipping is concerned, The Senator from New Hampshire coastal shipping companies already have [Mr. BRIDGES] is absent because of ill­ ! underline the words "extensive deple­ 700 of these ships. One thousand one ness . . tion"- hundred ships have gone to foreign coun­ The junior -Senator from Ohio [Mr. by conversion or transfer to the Great Lakes tries. By the way, in connection with would be detrimental. However, if only a BRICKER], the senior Senator from In· · few ships comprise the total transferred those ships, conversion costs have gone diana [Mr. CAPEHART], the junior Sena· ·under the proposed bill and other legislation, as high as 99 percent of the allowance. tor from Indiana [Mr. JENNER], the Sen­ the security o'bjections would be obviated, At this point, Mr. President, I ask ator from California [Mr. KNOWLAND],, since the delay caused by retransfer or re­ unanimous consent to have printed in tbe _ the Senator from Wisconsin [Mr. Mc- conversion would. not be great. body of the RECORD as part of my remarks 14990 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-. SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 a report issued by the Maritime Commis­ There is no need for this service be­ therefore I move that the bill be recom­ sion showing allowances granted to ship:­ cause, at the outbreak of World War II, mitted to the committee for further con .. ping companies in tpe conversion of the package freight on the Great Lakes had sideration. ships involved. diminished to such an extent that it was The VICE PRESIDENT. The Sena­ There being no objection, the state­ practically nonexistent. At the present tor from Pennsylvania moves that the ment was ordered to be printed in the time, package freight in the Lakes area bill be recommitted to the Committee on RECORD, as follows: is moved by rail or t!'uck, and there is no Interstate and Foreign Commerce. That lack of such service or facilities .. This is motion takes precedence. Allow- purely an effort on the part of certain Mr. MARTIN. Mr. President, as I un­ Selling ance P er- private shippers to reinstitute package derstand, there will be 5 minutes on each price granted cent of freight service on the Lakes, even though side for the discussion of the motion. T ype of under to pur- allow· Vessel name Ship chaser ance to they will not use the service so that The VICE PRESIDENT. Five min­ vessel Sales by Mar- ship they can use the noncompensatory low utes on a side. Act of itime sales 1946 Commis- price water rate as a lever to force down the Mr. MARTIN. I yield my time to the sion rail and truck rates in those areas. senior Senator from Delaware. ----- Aside from any other argument for or The VICE PRESIDENT. The Sena­ D eltargentino __ P&C (C3)S $1,505,143 $1,488,143 99 against this type of legislation, certainly tor from Delaware is recognized for 5 D elbrasiL _____ P&C (C3) S 1, 505, 143 1, 488, 143 99 Lamar ______C3-S-A2___ 1, 280, 730 1, 229, 560 96 this is not the time, with a third world minutes. Alhena ______C2 (S) ____ _ 1, 073, 669 995, 000 93 war brewing, to convert ocean-going Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. President, I rise D auphin______C3-S-A3 ... 1, 100, 387 949, 000 86 vessels to lake carriers for the noneco­ in support of the motion made by the Sea Barb.----- C3-S-A2.•. 1, 280, 730 1, 079, 023 84 D el Santos _____ C2--F-(S) __ 957, 818 787, 476 82 nomic carriage of passengers and pack­ Senator from Pennsylvania to recommit Sea Bass______C3-S-A2 ___ 1, 280, 730 1, 037, 378 81 age freight. the bill. I repeat, there has been no Starlight ____ .___ C2--S-AJL. 957, 818 769,488 80 testimony on the bill since the outbreak Bolivar------C3-S-A2 •.. 1, 280, 730 1, 014, 897 79 Mr. President, how znuch time do I Sheliak ______C2--S-BL. 957, 818 . 754, 536 79 have left? in Korea. Custer______C3-S-A2.•. 1, 280, 730 1, 002, 113 78 Mr. ROBERTSON. Mr. President, will War Hawk ____ C2--S-BL .. 957, 818 749, 138 78 The VICE PRESIDENT. There are gueens ______C3-S-A3 •.• 1, 100, 387 847, 800 77 3 minutes left. the Senator yield? allaway ______C3-S-A2..• 1, 280, 730 995, 206 77 Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, Mr. WILLIAMS. I yield to the Sena- Clay ______C3-S-A2 ••• 1, 280, 730 993, 588 77 Cherubim _____ C2-S-BL •. 957, 818 742, 247 77 will the Senator from Pennsylvania tor from Virginia. . Herald of the yield? Mr. ROBERTSON. Will not the Sen­ Morning ___ __ C2--S-BL •• 957, 818 721, 632 75 Wing Anow••• C2-S-BL •. 957, 818 724, 577 75 Mr. MARTIN. I yield to the Senator ator speak louder? Due to the noise in Pierce ______C2-S-BL •. 970, 918 728, 024 75 from Massachusetts. the Chamber, we cannot hear, and we Ormsby ______C2-S-BL .. 970, 918 705, 961 72 Mr. SALTONSTALL. The Senator would like to hear what he says. Sheridan__ __ : __ C2-S-BL. 970, 918 699, 421 72 Golden City___ C2-S-BL •. 957, 818 682, 172 71 stated the bill would result in a greater The PRESIDING OFFICER. The .Tohn Land _____ C2-S-BL •• 957, 818 659, 154 69 subsidy for these vessels to be used on Chair will try to help suppress the noise, Comet ______C2--S-BL •• 957, 818 661, 704 69 Sea Cat______C3-S-A2 .•. 1, 280, 730 876, 103 68 the Great Lakes. Cari the Senator give if the Senate will cooperate. The Sen­ Sea Runner ____ C3-S-A2.•. 1, 280, 730 844,455 66 the difference in figures? ate will be in order. Hotspur _------C2-S-BL •. 957, 818 632, 543 66 Griggs ______:__ C3-S-A2 .•• 1, 280, 730 779, 531 61 Mr. MARTIN. I am sorry I cannot. Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. President, there Sea Flier. ______C3-S-A2 .•• 1, 280, 730 767, 128 60 But I shall be very glad to secure the has been no testimony from either the Grundy .. _c ___ C3-S-A2 ___ 1, 280, 730 775, 117 60 figures and insert them in the RECORD. National Security Resources Board or Dashing Wave_ C2-S-BL. 957, 818 563, 940 59 Young Ameri- C2-8-BL. 957, 818 556, 909 58 I wish to impress on the Senate the anyone else connected with the national ca. fact that since the hearing ceased on defense in support of the pending bill. Sea Devil ______C3-8-A2.•• 1, 280, 730 737, 589 57 Typhoon ______C2-8-BL. 957, 818 547, 703 57 the bill we have started what is prob­ Mr. Stuart Symington, the Chairman of Sea Star __ ----- C3-S-A2.•. 1, 280, 730 698, 547 54 ably going to be a third great war. I the National Security Resources Board, Theenim ______C2-8-BL •. 983, 212 538, 644 54 think the time has come when the peo­ Robin Don- C2 (S) _____ 1, 073, 669 509, 436 47 said he would have no objection to the caster. ple, of America, and particularly the allocation of some ships to the Lakes, but Howell Lykes .• C3 (cargo) •. 1, 280, 730 575, 387 45 Mem,bers of the House and the Senate, he certainly has not and does not rec­ Ha waiia n Cargo______1, 280, 730 580, 252 45 Shipper. must give serious consideration to every­ ommend the transfer of these fast C-4's. Centarus. ----- C2--S-BL. 985, 916 393, 732 40 thing as it relates to the war effort. Certainly not at a loss to the Govern­ H ansford •••••• C3-S-A3 ••. 1, 280, 730 477, 014 37 Hamblen ______C3-8-A3 •.. 1, 280, 730 367, 922 28 We will need shipping, we will need ment of 96 % percent of their cost. Meteor __ ------C2-8-BL. 977, 366 211, 257 21 transportation for soldiers and for There are some 1,500 Liberty ships in the Montour .•••••. C3-S-A3 ••. 1, 280, 730 114, 009 9 equipment for soldiers. I hope that all :fleet, but these shipping companies have Senators will very carefully go into the testified they are not interested in those Mr. HUMPHREY. What we are ask­ question of. the transportation by air slower ships. ing for is favorable consideration and to the Korean area. I think what has I challenge anyone to place in the equal treatment for our inland water­ been done in that regard has been one RECORP a statement by Mr. Symington ways, on which the great population of of the greatest exploits in military his­ or Admiral Cochrane of the Maritime our country resides and works. tory. But even using practically all our Board, or anyone from the Navy Depart­ The VICE PRESIDENT. The time of air power, those in charge have been ment, or .anyone else in authority to the the Senator from Minnesota has expired. able to equip and transport possibly only effect that they approve transferring The Senators from Delaware and Penn­ 50,000 soldiers. If it is necessary to these C-4 ships to the Great Lakes. sylvania are recognized for the next 5 make a movement into western Eu­ Such an endorsement does not exist. minutes, the time to be divided according rope, it will be necessary for us to trans­ Another argument in favor of recom­ to their own wishes. port 20 and perhaps· 30 times that num­ mittal is that there is nothing that could Mr. MARTIN. Mr. President, as I ber of troops, with their equipment. be done so far as this year i3 concerned. stated the other evening, in my State Mr. President, I believe most Senators Recommittal of the bill would not result there is a large segment very favorable to appreciate that the equipment of troops in injury if we waited until January and the pending bill because we are on Lake requires more transportation than was reopened the hearings in order to get the Erie, which is one of the important lakes required even at the beginning of World omcials of the National Defense Depart­ of the Great Lakes system. But there War II. Tanks are heavier, trucks are ment before the committee and get are other features to the bill. heavier, and more ammunition, more their testimony as to what they favor, This bill grants one of the heaviest bombs, and · things of that kind, are because the Lakes will be frozen in a few subsidies ever suggested to Congress. It needed. A few weeks' delay will not be months and will remain frozen until involves a grant to· private operators of very important. I am fearful that we spring. 10 vessels worth originftllY $4,400,000 are not taking into consideration the Mr. President, I urge that the motion each, with eventual investment on their necessity of fast moving ships for the to recommit be agreed to. part of only $165,000 each. carriage of equipment. Mr. MAGNUSON. Mr. President­ Congress, in 1940, set up a national Only a few days ago the Committee on The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator transportation policy which requires Appropriations authorized two fast from Washington is recognized for 5 equality of treatment for all forms of ships. · I am fearful those ships may be minutes. transportation. Government aid to any needed immediately. Mr. MAGNUSON. I will not take 1·form of domestic transportation is di· Mr. President, I fear we have not given much longer. I hope the motion will not 1rectly opposed to the public interest. this subject sumcient consideration, and prevail. There has been much discus- 1950 CO:N"GRESSIONAL RECORD-· SENATE 14991 sion of the bill, and I think there has area all the way to my State of Wash­ ate on official business as a temporary been much misunderstanding of what ington. alternate Governor of the World Bank. the bill attempts to do. · Mr. President, even though the De­ · The Senator from Maine [Mr. BREW­ All this talk about the defense of the fense Department says the ships are not STER] and the Senator from New Jersey Nation of course has nothing to do with needed now for national defense in [Mr. SMITHJ are absent by leave of the this bill at all. If Admiral Cochrane does Korea or after Korea, they cannot be Senate as representatives of the Ameri­ not want to transfer ·these ships to the used unless the bill is passed. They are can group to the Interparlimentary Great Lakes, he has full authority to say now in the laid-up fleet. We have never Union. no; and the Senator from Delaware had an offer for them since World War . The Senator from New Hampshire knows that to be so. The Secretary of II, and here there is a chance to use [Mr. BRIDGES] is absent because of ill­ Defense, under the Ship Sales Act, has them. The ship operators will pay for ness. full authority· to say to the Maritime the reconversion costs themselves. If The Junior Senator from Ohio [Mr. Board, "You shall not transfer any of they receive a Federal mortgage, they BRICKER], the senior Senator from In­ the thousands of laid-up ships." Any­ must pay it back. In the meantime they diana [Mr. CAPEHART], the junior Sen­ one familiar with the Ship Sales Act will be operating tpe ships on the Great ator from Indiana [Mr. JENNER], the knows that, too. So, if these 10 ships Lakes, employing many persons, and Senator from California [Mr. KNow­ are to be valuable for national defense, paying some taxes into the Government, LANDJ, the Senator from Wisconsin [Mr. all the Secretary of Defense has to say whereas now the ships are costing the McCARTHY]. and the senior Senator from is that they are needed somewhere else, Government money and there is no re­ Ohio [Mr. TAFT] are necessarily absent. and they will not be transferred. turn from them. If they are needed for The S.enator from Massachusetts [Mr. Everyone wanting a ship, whether it defense, neither the Maritime Board nor LODGE] is absent by leave of the Senate is for ocean carriage or for service on the Secretary of Defense will sell them. on official business as a representative the Great Lakes, must ask the Secretary That is all the bill amounts to, unless of the United States to the fifth session of Defense, "Is this ship valuable for Senators wish to talk about competition of the General Assembly of the United national defense?" So what is the use with railroads and trucks, a subject on Nations. talking about that? which we could spend considerable time. The Senator from Nebraska [Mr. BUT­ Second, maritime activity on the Great The VICE PRESIDENT. The question LER J is detained on official business. Lakes·has something to do with defense, is on the motion of the Senator from The result was announced-yeas 14. too. Pennsylvania [Mr. MARTIN] to recommit nays 49; as follows: Third, the Senator from Pennsylvania the bill. YEAS-14 put his finger on the important point. If Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. President, on Donnell Kem Saltonstall there are some maritime package freight that motion I ask for the yeas and nays. DworEhak McKellar Watkins ships on the Great Lakes, he says that Ecton Malone Wherry The yeas and nays were ordered, and Gillette Martin Williams might have the effect of lowering the the legislative clerk called the roll. Robertson railroad fteight rates and the truck rates. Hoey Mr. McFARLAND. I announce that NAYS-49 If that is what the bill would do, I hope the Senator from Virginia [Mr. BYRD], it may be enacted and have that effect. Anderson Hill Millikin the Senator from Delaware [Mr. FREAR], Benton Holland Morse Of course, it is going to result in com­ the Senator from Arizona [Mr. HAYDEN]; Cain Humphrey Mundt petition with some of the railroads, but the Senator from South Carolina [Mr. Chapman Hunt Murray ·they competed for years, and the Gov­ JcHNST'ON], the Senator from Illinois Chavez Ives Neely Cordon Johnson, Colo. O'Conor ernment put those ships away. I do not [Mr. LucAs], the Senator from Connecti­ Darby Johnson, Tex. O'Mahoney know who the private operators are who cut [Mr. McMAHON], the Senator from Douglas Kefauver Russell want them. They have to make applica­ Pennsylvania [Mr. MYERS], and the Sen­ Ellender Kerr Schoeppel tion to the Maritime Board. The Mari- . Fergu:::on Kilgore Smith, Maine ator from Maryland [Mr. TYDINGS] are Fulbright Langer Stennis time Board has to grant them a contract, absent on public business. George Leahy Thomas, Okla. under the terms of the law, and give The Senator from California [Mr. Graham Lehman Thye them the same terms given other buyers. Green Long Wiley DowNEY] is necessarily absent. Gurney McClellan Young Mr. LONG. Mr. President, will the The Senator from Mississippi [Mr.­ Hendrickson McFarland Senator yield? EASTLAND] is absent because of illness. Hickenlooper Magnuson Mr. MAGNUSON. In a moment. If The Senator from South Carolina [Mr. NOT VOTING-33 the Maritime Board says they are not MAYBANK], the Senator from Florida Aiken Frear Myers going to transfer these ships, the ships [Mr. PEPPER], and the Senator from Brewster Hayden Pepper will not be transferred. If the prospec­ Utah [Mr. THOMAS] are absent by leave Bricker Jenner Smith, N. J. tive buyer secures the approval of the Bridges Johnston, S. C, Sparkman of the Senate. Butler Knowland Taft Board he must ask the Secretary of De­ The Senator from Alabama [Mr. Byrd Lodge Taylor fense whether or not these ships are ~PARKMANj is absent by leave of the Sen­ Capehart Lucas Thomas, Utah necessary for actual defense, and if the ate on official b.usiness as a representa­ Connally McCarran Tobey Downey McCarthy Tydings Secretary of Defense says yes, there is no tive of the United States to the fifth Eastland McMahon Vandenberg contract. That is all the bill means. session of the General Assembly of the Flanders Maybank Withers Mr. President, the Government has on United Nations. So Mr. MARTIN'S motion to recommit hand some ships which were built, sure­ The Senator from Texas [Mr. CON­ the bill was rejected. ly at the cost of a considerable sum of NALLY], the Senator from Nevada [Mr. The VICE PRESIDENT. The ques­ money. We pay great sums of money McCARRANJ, and the Senator from Ken­ for ships that ocean-going subsidized tucky [Mr. WITHERS] are absent on of­ tion is on the third reading and passage and nonsubsidized ·lines are operating. ficial business. of the bill. We pay subsidies fo:r: a merchant marine. The Senator from Idaho [Mr. TAYLOR] Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. President, is But .the subsidies which keep our entire is absent because of illness in his fam­ there any time left on the bill? merchant marine alive are not a cent ily. The VICE PRESIDENT. Five min­ greater than the subsidy we paid on On this vote, the Senator from Dela-· utes on the side. cheddar cheese last year. ware [Mr. FREAR], the Senator from Il­ Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. President, I am Mr. President, we need a merchant linois [Mr. LucAsJ, and the Senator from not going to take 5 minutes. I merely marine on the ocean. We need one on Maryland [Mr. TYDINGS] would vote want to point out to the Senate that the Great Lakes. Reference has been "nay.'' what we are doing, if we pass the bill, is made to competition with the railroads. Mr. WHERRY. I announce that the to authorize the sale of 10 C-4's-the The railroads cannot move all the grain Senator from Vermont .[Mr: AIKEN], the fastest ships of our reserve fleet-and in the Midwest and Northwest. Some Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. that such action is in direct opposition of it is lying on the ground. I wish we TOBEY], and the Senator from Michigan to the recommendations of the Defense could put 40 ships on the Great Lakes to [Mr. VANDENBERG] are absent by leave of Department. This proposal is not in move the grain. The railroads will not the Senate. accord with the best interest of national even build enough boxcars· to move the The Senator from Vermont [Mr. defense. It is not selling to the Great grain from far back in the Great Lakes FLANDERS] is absent by leave of the Sen- Lakes 10 of the slower Liberty ships, it is 14992 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-~ENATE SEPTEMBER 18 intended to sell to them 10 of the fastest 1 of the United States Code, as regards pub­ ENROLLED BILLS AND JOINT RESOLUTION ships in our reserve fleet for 3% percent lication of the United States Statutes at SIGNED of the original cost. As the Senate ·Large, to provide for the publication of treat­ ties and other international agreements be­ The message also announced that the passes the bill authorizing a subsidy of tween the United States of America and other Speaker had affixed his signature to the 96 % percent on the construction cost of countries in a separate compilation, to be following enrolled bills and joint reso­ the ships to be used in the Great Lakes known as United States Treaties and Other lution, and they were signed by the Vice shipping industry, I want Members to ask International Agreements, and for other pur­ President: poses; themselves this one question: How much H. R. 1133. An act for the relief of Mrs. closer can we get to 100 percent without S. 3768. An act to authorize payments by Merle Letherbury Pyle and Patricia M. Pyle; the Administrator of Veterans' Affairs on nationalization of our shipping industry? H. R. 1500. An act for the relief of Mrs. Mr. FERGUSON. Mr. President, I the purchase of automobiles or other con­ Barbara Guanapoulos; veyan ces by certain disabled veterans, and hope the Senate will pass the bill. It is H. R. 1601. An act for the relief of the only an authorization to make a sale: for other purposes: La Fayette Brewery, Inc.; S. 3889. An act to increase the amount of H. R. 3012. An act for the relief of the The full control over whether or not the Federal aid to State or Territorial homes for sale will be made, and when it will be Wyoming Nat ional Bank of Wilkes-Barre; the support of disabled soldiers and sailors H. R. 3406. An act for the rel!ef of Ellen made, will be in the hands of those who of the United States; and Fullard-Leo, widow of Leslie Fullard-Leo, are interested in control of our national S. 4088. An act to amend section 61 of the Leslie Vincent Fullard-Leo, Dudley Leinanie defense. I hope Congress at least will National Defense Act to permit the States to Fullard-Leo, and Ainsely Allen Kahealani authorize the sale. organize military forces, other than as parts Fullard-Leo, and the estate of Leslie Fullard­ The VICE PRESIDENT. . The ques­ of their National Guard units, to serve while Leo, deceased, as their interests may appear; tion is on the third reading and passage the National Guard is in active Federal ser_v­ H. R. 4901. An act authorizin g the Eastern of the bill. ice. Band of Cherkoee Indians, North Carolina, The bill e: DEFENSE of certain land for purposes of the Colonial H. R. 3406. An act for the relief of Ellen The VICE PRESIDENT laid before National Historical Park, and for other pur• Fullard-Leo; and the Senate a message from the Presi­ poses; H. R. 8677. An act to authorize ·and pro­ dent of the United States, which was S. 3706. An act to amend the act of May vide for the maintenance and operation of, 28, 1926 ( 44 Stat. 670), entitled "An act grant­ the Panama Canal by the present corporate read, and, with the accompanying re­ ing public lands to the county of Kern, Calif., adjunct of the Panama Ca,nal, as renamed; port, ordered to lie on the table. for public park purposes"; to recop.stitute the agency charged with the aul, Minn., relating report (No. 2575) on the concurrent reso­ ous Communists, subversives, and fifth to excess-profit taxes; to the Committee on colmnists. I feel that it is our obliga­ Finance. lutions f September 13, 1950, which appears in the having to do with the internal security engaging in acts which would harm the Appen~ix.] 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 14995 CAVENDISH W. CANNON, UNITED STATES torial entitled "The Senate on Subversion," l: now move that the Senate disagree MINISTER TO SYRIA published in the New York Times of Septem­ to the House amendments, request a [Mr. WATKINS asked and obtained leave ber 14, 1950, which appear 1n the Appendix.) conference thereon with the House of to have printed in the RECORD an editorial TRIBUTE TO STATION WSM, NASHVILLE, Representatives, and that the Chair ap­ entitled "One of Utah's Famous Sons Is an TENN. point the conferees on the part of the Able Diplomat," published in the Salt-Lake Tribune of September 14, 1950, and an edi­ Mr. KEFAUVER. Mr. President, I ask Senate. torial en~itled "Cavendish W. Cannon Goes unanimous consent to have inserted in Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, will the to Syria," published in the Salt Lake Deseret the body of the RECORD a tribute to Sta­ Senator yield? News of September 14, 1950, which appear tion WSM, Nashville. Mr. JOHNSON of Colorado. I yield. in the Appendix.] There being no objection, the tribute Mr. WHERRY. This is a privileged APPOINTMENT OF EDGAR B. BROSSARD was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, matter, so it is not subject to objection. AS MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES as follows: · · However, I wish to speak on the motion. TARIFF COMMISSION This year a fine public servant of the mid­ The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator from Nebraska is recognized. [Mr. WATKINS asked and obtained leave South and the entire Nation is observing its to have printed in the RECORD an editorial silver anniversary-a quarter century of · Mr. WHERRY. I merely wish to as­ entitled "Brossard Nomination," published public-conscious service through radio. I certain, if I can, before the vote is taken in the Washington Post ·of September 15, refer to our great clear-channel station in or: the motion, if the parliamentary 1950, which appears in the Appendix.] Nashville, WSM which can point with pride status has been withdrawn. It is my un­ to many achievements over the years. derstanding that the distinguished Sen­ THE UNITED STATES AND CHINA IN A WSM means much to the daily lives of mil­ WORLD THREE WAYS DIVIDED-AD­ lions of folks in Tennessee and other States ator from Colorado has withdrawn ·the DRESS BY STANLEY K. HORNBECK as well. Over the years I have watched with motion previously made to concur. and interest the progress of this Tennessee insti­ now has moved that the Senate disagree [Mr. WHERRY (for Mr. KNOWLAND) asked tution and its sincere dedication to doing to House amendments, and request a and obtained leave to have printed in the what it considers best for its listeners. WSM conference with the House of Represent­ RECORD an address entitled "The United has meant much to millions of residents in States and China in a World Three Ways . atives on the disagreeing votes of the two the central South with its faithful day-to­ Houses, so that the matter will go to Divided," prepared by Stanley K. Hornbeck, day service. Since WSM went on the air in Which appears in the Appendix.] 1925, we have seen an ever-growing institu­ conference, where the differences be­ MARSHALL AND CHINA-EDITORIAL tion make great contributions to the develop­ tween the House and Senate in connec­ FROM CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR ment of the art of radio. tion with this measure will be ironed ~ low the new medium of television is oc­ out. Is that correct? [Mr. ROBERTSON asked and obtained cupying the experienced leadership of WSM's Mr. JOHNSON of Colorado. That is leave to have printed in the RECORD an edi- staff as it plans to bring that area its first correct. torial entitled "Marshall and China," pub­ video service. On September 20, WSM will lished in the Christian Science Monitor of Mr. WHERRY. I have no objection. launch a television station that will link The VICE PRESIDENT. Without ob­ Beptember 16, 1950, which appears in the ?-Tash ville with other major markets and bring Appendix.] to our area the finest of network television jection, the motion is agreed to; and the NUMEROUS MISCONCEPTIONS ON TAX­ ·programs far in advance of what would be Chair appoints the Senator from Colo­ ING EXCESS PROFITS-ARTICLE BY the date except for WSM willingness to make rado [Mr. JOHNSON], the Senator from LAWRENCE L. McKENNA a tremen:ious investment for the public good. Arizona [Mr. McFARLAND], and the Sena­ By a surface microwave relay from Louis­ tor from Delaware [Mr. WILLIAMS] con­ [Mr. HOLLAND asked and obtained leave ville, Ky., to Nashville, our residents in that ferees on the part of the Senate. to have printed in the RECORD an article en­ area are to get direct network television titled, "Numerous Misconceptions on Taxiag service. We of Tennessee appreciate what INCLUSION OF COAST GUARD WITHIN Excess Profits," written by Lawrence L. WSM has done over the years for us and PROVISIONS OF SELECTIVE SERVICE McKenna, and published in the Washington what it is doing now. The television de­ ACT OF 1948 Star of Sunday, September 17, 1950, which velopment at WSM places a tremendous appears in the Appendix.] financial burden upon the station, and it The VICE PRESIDENT laid before the has upon WMC-TV, Memphis, but it serves Senate the amendment of the House of THE PERFECT LEADER-EDITORIAL FROM Representatives to the bill Blunderbuss and that the Senate concur in the amend­ within the respective jurisdictions of such Rifle!" published in the Nashville Tennes­ local boards to hear and determine, subject ments of the House of Representatives to the right of appeal to the 'appeal boards seean of Septembe1· 14, 1950; an editorial en­ to the bill (S. 3357) to prohibit transpor­ titled "The Antisubversive Bill," published herein authorized, all questions or claims tation of gambling devices in interstate with respect to inclusion for, or exemption in the Chattanooga Times of September 14, or deferment from, training and service un­ 1950; an editorial entitled "Hodge-Podge," and foreign commerce. Mr. JOHNSON of Colorado. Mr. Pres­ der this title, of all individuals within the published in the Washington Post of Septem­ jurisdiction of such local boards." ber 14, 1950; an editorial entitled, "Is Com• ident, I withdraw the motion I previous­ munism a Yardstick?" published in the ly made to concur in the House amend­ Mr. SALTONSTALL . . Mr. President, Wilmington (Del.) Journal; and an edi- ments to Senate bill 3357. · I move that the Senate concur in the 14996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 amendment of the House of Represent­ · The resolution as so reported ·by the ·. Senate proceed to consider a motion to - atives to the bill. Committee on Interior and Insular Af- · reconsider; - the right to make such a Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, will fairs was approved by the Committee on motion is not limited to the mover of the the Senator make a brief statement in Rules and Administration, and was motion to reconsider. explanation of the House amendment? , adopted on the fioor of the Senate on, I Mr. WHERRY. Except he has to be Mr. SALTONSTALL. I shall be glad think, August 15. on the affirmative side; does he not? to do so. On the following day, August 16, the . The VICE PRESIDENT. However, In effect, there are two amendments' Senator from Oklahoma [Mr. THOMAS] there was no yea-and-nay vote on that which the House of Representatives has entered a motion to reconSider the vote proposition. adopted to this bill. The first amend­ by which the resolution had been agreed Mr. WHERRY. I beg your pardon; ment permits a man who is a volunteer - to. that is what I wished to ascertain. to obtain training until his number is Since that time I have consulted him. The VICE PRESIDENT. In this case called under the Selective Service Act. It is my understanding that he desires there was no yea-and-nay vote. In the meantime, he will be a volunteer now only to make a statement with re­ Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Mr. for training. - When his number is spect to the resolution. President, had there been any unfinished . called under the Selective Service Act, I should point out that the study is business, a motion to take up the mo­ he will be subject to the provisions of the wholly within the jurisdiction of the tion to reconsider would, of necessity, draft, as in the case of any other man. committee, so the effect of the resolution have replaced the unfinished business, if That is · an explanation of the first is merely to provide a contingent fund the motion had been agreed to. Is not amendment. · of $20,000 for that purpose. that correct? The other amendment allows a local I may say th&t the study relates not The VICE PRESIDENT. That is cor­ draft board to divide itself into panels only to oil and coal but also to hydro­ rect. for the purpose of hearing cases. When electric power; and there is great need Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. There the panels make their decisions, those for a congressional study of this problem. having been no unfinished business, the who are affected by the decisions will I hope the motion of the Senator from motion was in order, of course. have the same right of appeal from those Oklahoma to reconsider the vote by . The VICE PRESIDENT. Yes; and it decisions of the panel boards to the which the Senate agreed to the resolu­ would have been in Qrder, in any event, various appeals bodies in connection with tion will be disagreed to, if it is not and would have displaced any unfinished classification matters as would be the withdrawn. business, if the motion had been carried. case if the full boards had sat on those Mr. THOMAS · of Oklahoma. Mr. Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Mr. matters. That provision is proposed for President, a parliamentary inquiry. President, on a former occasion, Sen­ The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator ~te ·Resolution 239 was reported to the the purpose of acceleration. will state it. Senate; and immediately thereafter, J Mr. President, I move that the Sen­ Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. What is ate concur in the amendment of the. unanimous consent was requested for its the unfinished business, if any? immediate consideration. Consent was House of Representatives. The VICE PRESIDENT. The previ­ - The VICE PRESIDENT. The ques-_ g:ranted, and the resolution was then ous unfinished business has just been · cons\dered and agreed to. tion is on agreeing to the motion of the disposed of. There is no unfinished busi-· Senator from Massachusetts. ness at the moment. I was not on the committee which con­ The motion was agreed to. sidered the resolution. Of course, I was Mr. O'MAHONEY. Mr. President, the not familiar either with the contents of NOMINATION OF WILLIAM O'DWYER­ motion for reconsideration of- Senate· the resolution or with the arguments for ANNOUNCEMENT Resolution 239 is the unfinished business. qr against it. Mr. McFARLAND obtained the fioor. I have just called up the motion. The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator Within the required time, my atten­ , Mr. O'MAHONEY. Mr. President, will from Wyoming is correct. tion was called to the effect of the res­ the Senator yield to me? Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. That is olution, whereupon I requested those Mr. McFARLAND. Yes; but before I what I wished to ascertain. who called my attention to the resolu­ yield, I wish to anpounce that after dis-. The VICE PRESIDENT. Let the mo­ tion to submit to me a memorandum as position is made of the resolution to tion be stated. to why they asked me to enter a motion which the Senator from Wyoming wishes The CHIEF CLERK. A motion by Mr. ' to reconsider the vote by· which it had to address himself, I intend to move that THOMAS of Oklahoma to reconsider the - been agreed to. They consented to my the Senate proceed to the consideration vote by which Senate Resolution 239-was request, and prepared and delivered to of executive business, for the purpose of agreed to. me forthwith a memorandum setting having the Senate consider the O'Dwyer · The VICE PRESIDENT. As_many as forth the reasons why they felt -the vote nomination. favor the motion to reconsider-- on the resolution should be reconsidered I now yield to the Senator from Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Mr. and the resolution should not be adopt­ Wyoming. President, I have not called up the mo­ ed. On the basis of that memorandum I entered the motion to reconsider. · ' INVESTIGATION OF FUET_, RESERVES tion, I wish to say to the Vi~e President At this time, Mr. President, I present Mr. O'MAHONEY. Mr. President, on and to the Senate. The VICE PRESIDENT. Any Senator _to the Senate the memorandum on which July 31, the Committee on Interior and I acted, and I ask that the memorandum Insular Affairs reported Senate Resolu­ has a right to call up the motion; Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Has a be made a part of my remarks in the tion 239, authorizing that committee or RECORD, at this point. - any duly authorized Subcommittee motion been made to call up the motion to reconsider? There being no objection, the memo­ thereof to make a study of the ~uel prob­ randum was ordered to be printed in the lem and the consumption of fuel. Ap­ The VICE :'?RESIDENT. The Senator from Wyoming made a motion to call RECORD, as follows: proximately five bills or resolutions deal~ it up. On Thursday, July 13, 1950, the Interior ing with that problem have been intro­ ' Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, will and Insular Affairs Committee opened hear­ duced or submitted. Most of them call the Senator yield for a parliamentary ings on Senate Resolution 239. -for the appointment of executive or ex­ iriquiry? · The objectives of the Secretary of the In­ ecutive-legislative commissions. Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. I yield .. terior and the sponsors of the pending meas­ The Committee on Interior and Insu-­ ure seemed to be much the same; namely, Mr. WHERRY. I do not quite under- · the establishment of a national fuels policy. lar Affairs decided that it would be bet­ stand the situation. I understood that Although the witnesses, including the Secre­ ter to have the committee itself make the distinguished Senator from Okla­ tary, more or less stoutly defended the pri­ the study, rather than to set up a new homa filed a motion to reconsider the: vate competitive enterprise system and in­ commission. vote by which Senate Resolution 239 was sisted they did not want to hamper or hin­ So the resolution was reported. As­ agreed to. der the functioning of such system, yet the submitted by the Senator from Pennsyl­ Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. I en-: net effect of their proposals would be to control the end use of fuels and perhaps to~ vania, it called for an appropriation to tered a motion to reconsider, but I .have allocate certain parts of the market to par- be made out of the contingent fund Of· not called it up. ticular fuels. · the Senate, in the amount of $100,000. The VICE PRESIDENT. Under the With respect to the necessity of conduct­ The committee reduced that to $20,000. rule, any Senator may move to have the ing concurrent investigations with respect to 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 14997 all energy resources, the Secretary said: "We on the memorandum to which I have re­ Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, I ask have here four .competing fields: oil, natu­ ferred, and shall permit the Senate to that the nomination be passed over. ral gas, coal, and hydroelectric power. pass upon the matter as it sees proper. • • • It is my feeling that a single fuel That is a mechanical way of approaching such as coal, or oil, or natural gas, cannot The VICE PRESIDENT. The ques­ this question; after which, of course, the be studied independently. Individual ele­ tion is on agreeing to the motion of the distinguished acting majority leadef may ments of our energy economy do not func­ Senator from Oklahoma to reconsider move to take up the nomination. tion independently any more than the steel the vote by which Senate Resolution 239 Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, al­ industry operates in a manner unaffected by was agreed to. though I do not think it necessary, I the economic factors which influence our The motion to reconsider was rejected. move that the Senate proceed to the metallic products such as copper or alumi­ consideration of this nomination. num. We must view the economic environ­ EXECUTIVE SESSION ment in which our energy sources are de­ Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, a par­ Mr. McFARLAND. I move that the liamentary inquiry. veloped and used. This point becomes read­ Senate proceed to the consideration of ily apparent when one considers the wide The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator range of uses in which primary energy sources executive business. The motion was agreed to; and the will state it. can be substituted one for the other. • • • Mr. WHERRY. Is it necessary that The competition among the several energy Senate proceeded to the consideration sources varies widely with geographic areas of executive business. there be a motion to proceed to the con­ sideration of the nomination? If I un­ and types of consumers. • • • The les­ EXECUTIVE MESSAGES REFERRED son of the past is that because of substitu­ derstand correctly, that is unnecessary­ tion among fuels the problems of any en­ The VICE PRESIDENT laid before the the nomination would come up automati­ ergy industry cannot be studied in isola­ Senate messages from the President of cally, and the only way by which con­ tion." the United States submitting sundry sideration can be prevented is by asking The Secretary discussed at length the dis­ that it be temporarily passed over. placement of coal by oil and gas, using as an nominations, which were referred to the example the trend in the railroad industry Committee on Armed Services. The VICE PRESIDENT. Since the from coal to Diesel locomotives. The in­ rough-wide background in our population in New tion to recommit, or has he merely an­ raids and bookie round-ups, ls the most York State. It is, therefore, fitting and nounced his intention of doing so? important made by the Brooklyn prosecutor since his Investigation of gambling began proper that a man who has taken such Mr. IVES. I intend to do so. last December. a great part in the life of New York, as The PRESIDING OFFICER. The If all the ramifications of Gross' gambling has Mayor O'Dwyer, should be selected Senator from New York is recognized. career are exposed, it will result, it was to strengthen the ties between our two Mr. IVES. Mr. President, I now move learned, in one of the biggest scandals in countries. to recommit the nomination to the Com­ the history of the New York Police Depart­ Mr. CHAVEZ. Mr. President, I should mittee on Foreign Relations for further ment. like to make a brief statement in behalf consideration. This is the investigation which former · of Mayor O'Dwyer. Everything which The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Mayor William O'Dwyer, who :resigned un­ question is on the motion of the Sen­ expectedly recently to accept an appoint­ has been said about the mayor, until now, ment as Ambassador to Mexico, character­ is correct. I agree with every statement a tor from New York that the nomina­ ized as a witch-hunt. made by the Senator from New York .tion of William O'Dwyer, of New York, [Mr. LEHMAN]. But I want to go fur­ to be Ambassador Extraordinary and That excerpt appears in the article ther everi than those statements. Plenipotentiary of the United States of by Mr. . Walter Arm, ·which was in the Mayor O'Dwyer is the beneficiary of America to Mexico be recommitted to issue of the New York Herald Tribune of American opportunity. He came to this the Committee on Foreign Relations. last Saturday, September 16. country as an immigrant, to take ad­ Mr. CONNALLY. Mr. President, I Mr. President, I know nothing about vantage of the benefits of the American very muc.h hope the Senate will not the provocation, or lack of it, for any of way of life, as one may take advantage recommit the nomination to the Com­ the charges which have been made. I of them if he behaves himself properly, mittee on Foreign Relations for further - know nothing about the details of this and of the things that we love so much. consideration. We gave everyone an investigation. I do know, however, that Mayor O'Dwyer knows Americanism as opportunity to be heard. No one was re­ in all probability the information which it should be known. Some of us who fused a hearing. Only one witness ap­ is now. available was not available to the have been here for a long time are, be­ peared, and we heard him at length. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations cause things come so easily, because na­ His only complaint was about an indict­ when the confirmation was under con­ ture has been so kind to us, and because ment which had been returned when Mr. sideration by that committee. the Government has been so kind, are O'Dwyer· was district attorney in Brook­ It seems to me, in view of the circum­ apt to forget some of the hardships which lyn. The former mayor was not in di­ stances that it is most unwise at this exist throughout the world. I believe rect charge of the case. However, this time tC: proceed with the confirmation. that Mayor O'Dwyer will make as fine an witness went on the stand and in great I say this, no.t in criticism of former ambassador to Mexico as that other great detail and at great length explained the Mayor O'Dwyer, for whom I have a very American who was there, once ·upon a case to the entire satisfaction of all the high personal regard. But I think per­ time, Mr. Josephus Daniels. members of the committee, with one pos­ haps for his own best interests, and cer­ In my opinion, Josephus Daniels, who sible exception. Every member of the tainly for the best interests of the coun­ went to Mexico under a terrific handi­ committee, with one exception, the Sen­ try, it is decidedly essential that cap, he having been Secretary of the ator from Iowa [Mr. HICKENLOOPER], confirmation be delayed, and, therefore, Navy at the time Vera Cruz was invaded, voted to report the nomination. The if it is brought up at this time, if the became the best loved American there Senator from Iowa did not vote "yea" motion to take it up is to prevail, I shall was in Mexico, through selling ideas, and he did not vote "nay." He voted move to recommi~ it for ·further con­ ideologies, decency, and real American­ "present." With practically a unani­ sideration by the committee. ism to the Mexicans. Mr. LEHMAN. Mr. President, I hope mous vote by members of both parties, the Senate will promptly confirm the In my opinion, the background of it seems that it would be very foolish nomination by the President of the Mayor O'Dwyer, plus the fact that he to send the nomination back to the com­ has so many things in common with the mittee. The committee has heard every­ Honorable William O'Dwyer as Ambas­ people of Mexico, should make him . a sador to Mexico. one who wanted to be heard. All those Mayor O'Dwyer is a man of great tal­ great Ambassador. I congratulate ·the who wrote the committee received a let­ ents and understanding as his career Committee on Foreign Relations and its ter or telegram from the committee tell­ clearly discloses. distinguished chairman for having rec­ ing them when the meeting would be Few Americans in public life know ommended the confirmation of Mayor held. Only one man showed up, and he Mexico as well as Mayor O'Dwyer. He O'Dwyer's nomination. I think he will was the candidate for Congress on the has long had a passionate interest in make a great Ambassador. Republican ticket in the Roosevelt dis:. this neighbor to the south of us and has Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, in trict. spent much time in that country. He order to straighten out the parliamen­ Mr. President, former Mayor O'Dwyer, has an impressive background of knowl­ tary situation, I moved that the Senate as has already been stated, came to this edge and information concerning Latin­ proceed to consider this nomination; country as an immigrant when he was American affairs and Hispanic culture. which was unnecessary. I thought that 20 years old. By his own efforts he As the members of the Senate Foreign that wonld bring about the test vote. worked his way forward -.mtil he became Relations Committee learned; he speaks There is, of course, no reason why we Mayor of New York City. The people of Spanish most fiuently. He was educated snould have three votes on this question. New York twice elected him. I am sure in Spain and understands the Latin cul­ The Senator from New York has stated that in those campaigns his entire record ture-an understanding which will do now that he would move to recommit, in was under intense scrutiny. So far as much to endear him to the Mexican the event my motion were agreed to, and I know, nothing was ever proved to his people who are rightly proud of their I am therefore going to withdraw my. discredit or dishonor. Everything was culture and of their language. motion and let the nomination come up clear in spite of those Republcian Mayor O'Dwyer has climbed steadily in ;regular order. I withdraw my mo­ attacks. · upward in his career. He is what Amer­ tion. So, Mr. President, it seems to me with icans proudly call a self-made man. The PRESIDING OFFICER. (Mr. his background, his understanding of the This is exactly the type of man who STENNIS in the chair) . The Chair is ad­ Spanish language, and his acquaintance appeals the most to the democracy-loving vised that the matter of the nomina­ with Spanish customs and ideals he is­ people of Mexico. He is a man of force tion of William O'Dwyer to be Am­ a splendid man for us to send as Am._ and vigor who can energetically project bassador to Mexico is now. the regular bassador to Mexico. to the people of Mexico our own ideals order. We have reached that nomina­ Mr. CHAVEZ. Mr. President, will the and beliefs and our interest in their tion on the calendar. No motion is Senator yield for a ·question? welfare. necessary for its consideration. Mr. CONNALLY. Yes. I believe that he will make a fine am­ Mr. Y!HERRY. Mr. President, a par­ Mr. CHAVEZ. Is it not proper and is bassador to Mexico. liamentary inquiry. it not sound that one who understands New York, despite the difference in The PRESIDING OFFICER. The those things, as the former Mayor of latitude from Mexico, has strong ties Senator will ::;tate it. New York does, if he has the inclination, with this neighbor of ours. There are Mr. WHERRY. Has the distinguished which he has, should be our ambassador . in.any persons of Latin descent and Latin Senator from New York >rade the mo- to Mexico? 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 14999 Mr. CONNALLY. I thoroughly agree Mexico that this matter should be ex­ The PRESIDING OFFICER. The with the Senator from New Mexico. plored, or at least action by the Senate Senator will state it. That is what I wa$ saying. should be delayed until we find what the Mr. FERGUSON. Is there something Mr. CHAVEZ. For instance, in the outcome is in the city of New Yor.k. I pending which requires an immediate two New York mayoralty campaigns, do not think it is fair to the former vote? under our American system, the people mayor of New York City that his nom­ The PRESIDING OFFICER. The of New York passed on the questions that ination should be confirmed under such question of the confirmation of the were brought up in those campaigns, and conditions, and I do not think it is wise nominee is before the Senate in execu­ they elected him twice. from the standpoint of the country to tive session. The question is debatable. Mr. CONNALLY. Each time by a very have it confirmed under such conditions. Mr. FERGUSON. I simply wanted to large majority. That is why I am making my motion · know the parliamentary situation. Mr. President, I hope that the Senate to recommit the nomination. The PRESIDING OFFICER. By will not recommit this nomination, but Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, I sug­ unanimous consent or by motion the in proper order will confirm the nomi­ gest the absence of a quorum. Senate may defer consideration of this nation, because the committee was for The VICE PRESIDENT. The Secre­ nomination, but it is the pending busi­ him and the people are for him. tary will call the roll. ness. Mr. IVES. Mr. President, I regret The Chief Clerk called the roll, and Mr. FERGUSON. Mr. President, I very much that a situation seems to have the following Senators answered to their hope the nomination will be deferred for developed which makes it appear that names: several days. I think a letter from the Anderson Hill Martin district attorney, Mr. McDonald, of there is a Republican attack upon for­ Benton Hoey Morse mer Mayor O'Dwyer. I tried to indi­ Butler Holland Mundt Brooklyn, and also a letter from Mr. Ho­ cate in my remarks to the Senate last Cain Humphrey Murray gan, who is the district attorney of the Friday night that that was the one Chapman Hunt Neely borough of Manhattan, both ·of which Chavez Ives O'Conor thing I was trying to keep entirely out Connally Johnson, Colo. O'Mahoney are included in the territory served by of the discussion. If it had been a ques­ Cordon Johnson, Tex. Robertson Mr. O'Dwyer as the former mayor, would tion of partisan politics, I would have Darby Kefauver Russell clear up the situation. What is con­ Donnell Kem Saltonstall objected previously. I would have ob­ Douglas Kerr Schoeppel tained in the letters can be reported to jected then. I would not have waited Dworshak Kilgore Smith, Maine the Senate. I am satisfied that the until the following Monday. It is be­ Ecton Langer Stennis mayor himself does not 'want a feeling Ellender Leahy Thomas, Okla. cause of events which have occurred Ferguson Lehman Thye fo exist that there has been a cutting off since that time, which could not possibly Frear Long . Watkins of any investigation of his acts as mayor have been brought to the attention of Fulbright McCarran Wherry of the great city of New York. I hope Gillette McClellan Wiley the Committee on Foreign Relations, Graham McFarland WUllams the Senate will agree to the motion that which I believe have a great and pro­ Green McKellar Young the Senate delay action for 2 days, so the found bearing upon this whole question, Gurney Magnuson matter can be cleared up. If the con­ and which should be taken into consid­ Hendrickson Malone tents of the letters make clear to the eration, that I now rise and make the The PRESIDING Oli'FICER. A quo­ committee that no hearing respecting motion to recommit, in order that the rum is present. them is required, that can be reported to committee may give this matter the con­ Mr. IVES. Mr. President, I want to the Senate. If the contents of the let­ sideration to which I feel it is entitled. be just as fair as I possibly can be about ters are such that the Foreign Relations Mr. CHAVEZ. Mr. President, will this matter. I do not want to see any Committee should go into the matters the Senator yield? politics in it so far as I am concerned. further, the committee can take such ac­ Mr. IVES. Certainly. I like Bill O'DwYer. What I am trying tion as it sees fit. A request is not made Mr. CHAVEZ. Will the Senator from to do here is for what I believe to be the that the Foreign Relations Committee New York tell us now what his objec­ interest of the country and, by the same ask for the letters, but the distinguished tion is? Notwithstanding my great feel­ token, perhaps the interest of :M:ayor senior Senator from New York himself ings for Mayor O'Dwyer, if the Senator O'Dwyer. Under the circumstances I is willing to ask for the letters. The let­ from New York will tell the Senate now should like to withdraw my motion to ters can be submitted to the Senate, so what his objections are, he may be able recommit and substitute therefor a the Senate itself can decide whether it to convince me that I should vote motion to postpone action on this mat­ has the facts needed before it can act. against his nomination and vote in favor ter for 2 days, during which time I will Mr. CONNALLY. Mr. President, I of his motion to recommit the nomina­ get in touch with the district attorney hope the Senate will not postpone action tion to the committee. of Kings County, Mr. Miles F. :M:cDonald, on the nomination. What Senators Mr. IVES. I think the excerpt which asking him to send a communication in propose is to let a district attorney act I read from the newspaper column of writing to the distinguished chairman on the confirmation instead of the Sen­ last Saturday is sufficient evidence of of the Senate Committee on Foreign ate. Senators would seem to intimate what I had in mind. Perhaps the dis­ Relations saying, if such is the fact, that that whatever the district attorney de­ tinguished Senator from New Mexico he is acquainted with no evidence of any cides upon, we will do. I am not in fa­ was not present when I read the article. kind for which reason former :M:ayor vor of any such procedure. No one who If he was not present, I shall be glad O'Dwyer should not be confirmed by the has any respect for the functions of the to read it again. . _ Senate as Ambassador to Mexico. I Foreign Relations Committee ought to Mr. CHAVEZ.· I am extremely sorry I think that is a fair proposition. I think insist upon such procedure. Mr. Presi­ was not present, but if the Senator will it will provide a reasonable solution­ dent, what did the committee do in re­ tell the Senate why he wants to send and I dare say there are members of the spect to the nomination? A great many the nomination back to the committee, Democratic Party who may have a feel­ letters were received by the committee the Senator may convince me. ing similar to my own in this connection. dealing with the nomination. We an­ Mr. IVES. The reason is a simple Therefore I request that the postpone­ swered them and told the writers when one. The question of gambling in the ment motion be substituted for the the hearings were to be held, when we Borough of Brooklyn, county of Kings, motion to recommit. were going to consider the nomination. which are one and the same, has been The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Mayor O'Dwyer came all the way back brought directly into the center of this Senator's motion is in order. He has from California to attend the hearing. picture. Former Mayor O'DwYer has withdrawn his motion to recommit, and He was in California on his vacation. been reported to have stated that the makes a motion that the nomination be What came of it all? We invited a great investigation of that question by the dis­ deferred for 2 days. many individuals, but what became of it trict attorney of the county was a "witch Mr. FERGUSON. Mr. President, as I all? One little fell ow came, a man who hunt." Mr. O'DwYer, as mayor of the understand it will not be necessary to is running for Congress on the Republi­ city of New York, was responsible for take a vote upon the question as to can ticket. He is the only man who the conditions which existed in the city whether or not it can be def erred for showed up. We heard him. We let him of New York, at least insofar as the 2 days. talk as long as he wanted to talk. Then police department was concerned. I say Mr. , President, a parliamentary in­ the mayor got on the stand and dis­ to my distinguished colleague from New quiry. cussed all the so-called charges and the 15000 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 indictments when he was district attor­ so nearly a unanimous agreement can ator from New York the courtesy of ney, and everyone was given time to in­ be reached by a committee to report the granting his request for . postponement. terrogate him. Why did not the Sen­ nomination favorably-only one member Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, will ator from New York [Mr. IVES] come to not voting affirmatively-the nominee the Senator yield? the hearing? Why did not the Senator ought to be confirmed. I appeal to the . Mr. WHERRY. I yield. from New York show up at the hearing, Senate not to postpone action, but to Mr. McFARLAND. I wish to make it if he knows so much about the case? proceed and vote on the nomination. If plain that if the request had been made Mr. IVES. Mr. President, is the Sen­ Senators do not want to vote to confirm at the proper time I at least would have ator from Texas asking the Senator from the nomination of Mayor O'Dwyer, let consented to postponement for one day, New York a question? The Senator them vote against confirmation, but let but such a request was not made. That from New York did not come to the us have a vote and end the matter. is the point I am making. hearing, so far as this particular matter Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, be­ Mr. WHERRY. I wish to answer that is concerned, because in the first place fore I made the motion. that the Senate statement. The Senator is rather ex­ nothing was known about it, then and proceed to the consideration of execu­ ercised over the point as to the time in the second place the Senator from tive business, l consulted with the dis­ when the objection was made. It is true New York understood the Senate com­ tinguished minority leader as to whether that the distinguished acting majority mittee was going into every aspect of there was any objection to taking up the leader came to me and asked me if I the matter. nomination. The distinguished Senator knew of any objection to the considera­ Mr. CONNALLY. We did. from Iowa [Mr. HICKENLOOPER] had tion of the nomination. I had not yet Mr. IVES. The committee could not withdrawn his objection to considering conversed with the Senator from Iowa have done so. the nomination. · If the Senator from [Mr. HICKENLOOPER], and he was on the Mr. CONNALLY. We could not have New York [Mr. IVES] had conveyed his fioor. I believe both of us talked to him done so because we had no knowledge objection to the minority leader, I might at the same time. As I understood the of the matters in question then. I do well have waited another day, or per­ Senator from Iowa, he was not going to not know where the Senator from New haps 2 days, to move an executive ses­ interpose objection, but he wished to York received his information, but he sion to consider the nomination. But, make a few remarks about the nomina­ did not think enough about it to come Mr. President, the Senate having taken tion. before the committee at any time. up the nomination, thinking there was When the time came for him to make Neither did the Senator from Michigan no objection to considering it at this those remarks, in order that he might [Mr. FERGUSON] come before the com­ tilJle, I believe it would be a blot upon have an opportunity to make them, it mittee. Why did not the Senator come the reputation of a distinguished and being necessary for a Senator to reserve before the committee, if he knows any­ outstanding statesman in the State of the right to object to the nomination to thing about this particular matter? New York if we should delay action. bring that about, I said I would ask that Mr. FERGUSON. Mr. President, will The nomination having come before . the nomination go over. the Senator from Texas yield? the Senate I believe we should vote on There was another reason for the re­ Mr. CONNALLY. Yes. it, and vote it up or down at this time . . quest. After the distinguished Senator Mr. FERGUSON. Some matters ap­ When such a matter is postponed for a from Iowa talked to me, other Senators peared in the press subsequent to the couple of days by reason of a newspaper talked to me. At that time they were committee hearings. article, it tends to indicate that the Sen­ not sure what they would do; but they Mr. CONNALLY. Yes; I know. ate of the United States thinks there is thought that possibly the nomination Mr. FERGUSON. In fact the Herald something wrong with the nominee. For should be recommitted, so that they Tribune article of September 16, 1950, that reason I hope the Senate will vote could study the hearings, if they wished contained only an inquiry in relation to down the motion of the distinguished to do so, or so that they themselves the matter. junior Senator from New York. might have an opportunity to do some Mr. CONNALLY. Yes; I understand. Mr. CHAVEZ. Mr. President, will the investigating on their own account. Mr. FERGUSON. It was not the de­ Senator yield for a question? What is unreasonable about that, Mr. sire of the Senator from New York or of Mr. McFARLAND. I yield. President? the Senator from Michigan to ask that Mr. CHAVEZ. Is it not true that if Furthermore, any Member of the Sen­ the committee hold further hearings but there is anything wrong with Mr. ate has a right to rise and ask that a to see whether or not the district at- · O'Dwyer 2 days from now something is nomination go over for 2 or 3 days or for torneys-- wrong now, and we should pass on the any length of time he wishes to request, Mr. CONNALLY. Would confirm him - question? even after the nomination is before the or not. Mr. McFARLAND. That is c:orrect; Senate for consideration. Mr. FERGUSON. No; not confirm and if there is anything wrong with May­ These nominations come up auto­ him. or O'Dwyer now there was something matically. The only way in the world Mr. CONNALLY. The Senator want­ wrong 2 months ago. This thing is noth­ the consideration of a nomination can ed to see whether the district attorneys ing new. It was before the committee. be prevented is for a Senator to ask would confirm him or reject him. It If we postpone action on a nomination unanimous consent that the nomination seems to be the theory of the Senator every time a newspaper article appears be passed over. I asked unanimous con-. · from Michigan that a little newspaper in connection with it, we would never sent for that purpose; but the distin­ publicity will be secured by postpone­ confirm anyone. We are drawing near guished Senator from Arizona did not ment. Oh, it is proposed to postpone the end of the session. and I say it would agree to the request; he said he objected the matter for 2 days, and then when be unfair to Mayor O'Dwyer to postpone to it. So he himself forced this nomi­ it has been postponed for 2 days another consideration of the nomination, when nation before the Sena~e today. little newspaper somewhere prints some­ the Senate thought there was no ob­ Up until this moment, I had no thing about the matter in its columns jection to taking it up at this time. knowledge of the charges made or and-"Wait a minute, we have to post­ Mr. WHERRY . . Mr. . President, will whether they were considered by the pone the matter for another 2 days so the Senator yield? committee or were not considered by it. we may be able to hear what this fell ow Mr. McFARLAND. I yield. However, now, as a Member of the Sen­ knows about the matter"-when he does Mr. WHERRY. Inasmuch as the ate, one who is not a member of the not know anything. minority leader has been brought into Foreign Relations Committee, I am Mr. President, we have given this case the discussion, I should like to say a charged with the responsibility of voting the closest attention. Mayor O'Dwyer word. There is nothing unusual about for or against confirmation of the nomi­ came all the way back from California to the request of the Senator from New natfon, knowing what was published in face his accusers. He faced them. He York. Time and time again when nom­ the newspaper after the committee re­ never dodged a question. He answered inations have been brought before the ported the nomination by the vote which every complaint which was made to the Senate, and, for some special reason, re­ has stated to us by the distinguished satisfaction of the entire committee, quest has been made that action on the Senator from Texas-in short, a unani­ with the exception of one member, who nomination be postponed for a couple of mous vote, with the exception of the vote did not vote in the affirmative or nega­ days, such action has ·been taken. I of one member of the committee, who tive. but simply voted "present." When think the Senate should extend the Sen- voted "present." 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 15001 The· matter of the newspaper article Let me inquire what the pending mo­ Certainly we attempt to proceed on came up after the committee report was tion is, Mr. President? the basis of agreeing to all reasonable made. In the report there is nothing The VICE PRESIDENT. The pend­ requests by Senators; and certainly this about the article or the matter to which ing question is on agreeing to the mo­ request is most reasonable; and similar it relates. In fact, I do not think the tion to postpone consideration of the requests have been granted many, many committee has even filed a written re­ nomination for two calendar days. times, in my experience in the Senate. port with the nomination. if my under­ Mr. WHERRY. In other words, that Mr. MUNDT. Let me ask whether standing of that matter is correct; and motion, if agreed to, will result in post­ these very friendly and worth-while I believe I am correct in that respect. I poning consideration of the nomination principles of senatorial courtesy are sup­ do not believe there is ·even a printed to Wednesday, a day certain. Very well, posed to operate solely for the benefit report on the nomination. I am not Mr. President. That motion makes my of the majority party? complaining about that, because, of argument all the better, for certainly the Mr. WHE;RRY. Oh, no. Senatorial course, we are approaching the end of motion is now predicated on a very courtesy is supposed to extend equally the session. reasonable request, namely, to hold up to Senators on both sides of the aisle, Certainly the minority leader has done action on the nomination for 2 days, just as unanimous-consent agreements his level best to cooperate in regard to postponing action on the nomination to a can be entered only by agreement on the the program. I do not want to cause day certain. If the motion is agreed to, part of all Members of the Senate, Mem­ any delay; but I wish to say that when there is no doubt that the nomination bers on both sides of the aisle, or other­ I read the article in question in the news­ will come up at that time. wise there will be no unanimous-consent paper on Sunday, and when someone If the acting majority leader wants to agreement. Therefore, such matters cane~ me about it, I said, "Well, that have this matter brought up for con­ work both ways, and such courtesies certamly has come up after the commit­ sideration, I think he himself should join should be extended to Senators on both tee made its report. I cannot see why in the request now made, and should give sides of the aisle. the committee, in fairness to the mayor, the Senate 2 days to look over this Mr. MUNDT. I have one further should not make a further investigation nomination. question: I wonder whether the distin­ and give the mayor a clean bill of Mr. MUNDT. Mr. President, will the guished minority leader would advise me health." Senator yield? whether I am correct in understand­ Of course, possibly the committee has already heard about that matter. The Mr. WHERRY. I yield. ing that the full extent of the courtesy distinguished Senator from Texas says Mr. MUNDT. The junior Senator being requested by the senior Senator. from South Dakota does not have the from New York [Mr. IVES] is, not that that just one man came before the com­ least idea in the world whether Mayor the Senate reject the nomination, as was mittee-a Republican, a "little fell ow,'' O'Dwyer's nomination should be con­ done in the case of the other nomina­ so the Se~tor said, who is said to be a candidate for election to the House of firmed or should not be confirmed, or tions to which I have referred, but sim­ Representatives. what these new charges may entail; but ply that the Senate postpone action on the Senator from South Dakota is cur­ the nomination for 2 days-which would Mr. President, I do not know how ious to try to find some rational rule seem to me to be the very minimum "little" he was or whether he was a amount of courtesy the Senate could ex­ Republican, or who he was. Neverthe­ by which the precedents in regard to less, any man who had the courage to senatorial courtesy seem to operate in tend to one of its Members under the come to the committee and oppose the this body. As a comparatively new Mem­ circumstances. nomination, if he felt that the nomina­ ber "of the Senate, the junior Senator Mr. WHERRY. I wish to answer the tion should not be confirmed, certainly from South Dakota would like to direct Senator from South Dakota now by stat­ was acting within his right. a question or two to the minority ing that that is the proposal of the Sen­ Regardless of whether he is so little leader, who has had vast experience in ator from New York at this time. He that if he were wearing a high silk hat, this field. withdrew his motion, and now has re­ he could walk under a snake and not Am I not correct in my memory that quested that the nomination be passed even touch the snake, certainly at least not so long ago, while operating, it seems over for 2 days. he has a .right to.oppose confirmation of to me, almost exclusively on the basis When the distinguished Senator made the nomination if he wishe5 to do so. of senatorial courtesy, the Senate by his motion, I understood him to say he Of course I am the minority leader, overwhelming votes refused to confirm had· in mind the same purpose and same and I wish to do w.hat is right. , the nominations of certain persons com­ objective which he has in mind now in I ask the acting majority leader not ing from the States of Iowa, Virginia, connection with his present request­ to force this matter now, but to let the and Georgia? As the Senate will recall, namely, that he felt that Senators nomination go over for 2 days. My in connection with those nominations should have time to clear up this matter judgment is that by that time we can there was no question of dishonesty or and to bring back a clean bill of health have ironed out this matter, and then disloyalty, but objection was made to the for the former mayor. The senior Sen­ can vote on the nomination. nominations because the Senators from ator from New York [Mr. IVES] spoke in At this moment, I speak in favor of those States objected to confirmation of glowing terms, high terms, compli­ recommitting the nomination because I the nominations. mentary terms, if you please, of the dis­ think such a request is a' perfectly In view of the fact that the Senate tinguished former mayor of New York. normal and reasonable one. If that mo­ rejected those nominations because of I say to the distinguished Senator from tion is opposed, I shall be forced to vote objection by the Senators from the States South Dakota that he is getting along against confirmation of the nomination, concerned-in other words, because of perfectly all right in his interpretation because I have no way of knowing about the application of the precedents in re­ of the rules of the Senate, and of course this matter now, other than what I have gard to senatorial courtesy-surely in he is asking questions which he him­ learned about it from the article which the same spirit of senatvrial courtesy the self can answer. However, if it will be was published in the newspaper. I Senate should permit 2 days to elapse of any help to him, I shall reply to his understand that it was published in sev­ now, so that the Senator from New York last question by saying that I am satis­ eral others newspapers, in addition to could satisfy himself in regard to the fied that the distinguished senior Sena­ the New York Herald Tribune. nomination in the case of a citizen of tor from New York went the whole route Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, a his own State. when he said he would ask consent that parliamentary inquiry. Mr. WHERRY. Is that a question, the nomination go over for 2 days, rather The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Mr. President? than move that the nomination be put Senator will state it. Mr. MUNDT. Yes. over or be delayed indefinitely. Mr. McFARLAND. The motion to re­ Mr. WHERRY. Certainly all Sena­ Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, I commit has been withdrawn. has it not? tors know that it is reasonable to request wish to clear up the matter of senatorial The PRESIDING OFFICER. That that a nomination be passed over; and courtesy. No one has tried to extend is correct. in this case, in accordance with the re­ more courtesies to the minority side than Mr. WHERRY. Very well; then I cor­ quest of the distinguished senior Sena­ I have. However, this matter has passed rect my remarks. I was absent for a tor from New York .[Mr. IVES], certainly the point of senatorial courtesy. moment or two from the ftoor, while it is reasonable to request that the nomi .. The . majority leader gave notice on answering a telephone call. nation be passed over for 2 days. iast Friday that this nomination would 15002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 be brought up today. Earlier today, . Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, will Mr. CHAVEZ. May I ask what is the shortly after the Senate convened, and the Senator yield? objection to the confirmation of the before I brought up the nomination, I Mr. WHERRY. I am satisfied that if O'Dwyer nomination today? · gave notice that I would move its con­ the majority leader were here-and no Mr. WHERRY. The reasons have sideration. If at that time any objec­ reflection is intended on the acting ma­ been stated by the Senator from New tion had· been made and if senatorial jority leader-he would agree that, in York and by the Senator from Michigan, courtesy had been extended to me then, view of the Senatorial courtesies ex­ who have asked that, as a matter of by having a Senator who wished to have tended in times gone by, as well as the senatorial courtesy, the nomination be the nomination.go over come to me and .precedents which have been brought to passed over for 2 days. A Senator ask me to agree to have that done, before the attention of the Senate by the junior has the right to make unanimous-con­ the discussion occurred on the :floor of Senator from South Dakota, with refer­ sent request, in his own time, in regard the Senate, certainly I would have tried ence to recent nominations, from the to doing certain things, and that is all to comply with such a request. · State of Iowa, the State of West Virginia, that is being done here. However, once a nomination is taken and the State of Georgia, a postpone­ Mr. CHAVEZ. What is wrong with a up, following announcement of the in­ ment would be in keeping with the prece­ unanimous-consent request to let the tention to take it up, and when following dents. There is no reflection intended. matter go over for 48 hours, and come that announcement no Senator comes to There was a delay, of course, in the other to a unanimous-consent agreement to the Senator making the announcement case, imd there were those who wanted vote on it Wednesday at 1 o'clock? and requests the courtesy of being able to defeat the nomination, as I under­ Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, the to consider the matter further, then it is stand; at least, they wanted the matter thing that is wrong is this: I do not a reft.ection upon the Senator who moves postponed. until they could make up know at this time whether that would to have the Senate consider the nomina­ their minds. afford sufficient time for debate on con­ tion, for another Senator then to ask, Here we are simply asking that this firmation, if time should be allotted for during the consideration of the nomina- · nomination go over for 2 days, say until debate. The Senator well knows what tion by the Senate that it be postponed Thursday, and that it then be consid­ is wrong with it. because of newspaper articles. ered by the Senate. What is wrong Mr. CHAVEZ. I should like to ask, Furthermore, Mr. President, I submit about that? What is fairer than that? What is wrong with O'Dwyer? that 2 days from now we could not clear Why is it not a normal proceeding? Mr. WHERRY. The junior Senator up a matter of this sort any more than Why is it desired to force a vote on the from Nebraska is · not saying there is we could do so at this time, for by that nomination today? anything wrong with him. time there would be other newspaper ar­ Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, will Mr. CHAVEZ. I should like to know ticles, one of which no doubt would be the Senator yield? how the Senator from Nebraska and the to the effect that the Senate has held up The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from New York feel about it. confirmation of the nomination of for­ Senator from Nebraska yield to the Sen­ Mr. WHERRY. Is the Senator asking mer Mayor O'Dwyer; and that informa­ ator from Arizona for a question? me that question? tion would be carried in the headlines of Mr. WHERRY. I yield. Mr. CHAVEZ. Yes. various newspapers in the State of New Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, I Mr. WHERRY. I would not say that York. As a result, irreparable injury should like to say to the distinguished there is anything wrong; but I do say would be done to the nominee. Senator from Nebraska that I am not that if there is anything wrong, the de­ Therefore, Mr. President, I think the going to say what Senator approached bate should determine it, and adequate Senate should confirm the nomination the acting majority leader, but it was time should be allowed. today. stated to me that it was not the desire Mr. CHAVEZ. The committee held Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, I shall · that Mayor O'Dwyer's nomination should hearings. There are certainly 13 Sena­ only detain the Senate for about 2 min­ be defeated, but that his nomination tors on the committee, who were trusted utes. could come up next January. That is by the Senate to act on the nomination. the kind of proposal I want defeated by Mr. WHERRY. Certainly. Is there a Mr. President, I inquire if the Senator the Senate. If Senators are willing to report filed with committee hearings? from Texas wants me to yield to him. enter into a unanimous-consent agree­ No, none whatever. There is not a word Mr. CONNALLY. The Senator from ment that this nomination be voted on in the report, on the point that I am Texas would not dare do that. day after tomorrow, at 1 o'clock, I shall trying to make. There is no way for one Mr. WHERRY. If the Senator from make the request. who does not have the information to Texas wants me to yield to him, I shall Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, I am judge. The distinguished Senator from be glad to do so. not in position to enter into a unani­ Texas says that it is "newspaper." Of Mr. CONNALLY. I do not want the mous-consent agreement fixing the time course it is newspaper. If there is any­ Senator from Nebraska to yield'. for a vote. But I shall be glad to enter thing to the newspaper story, a delay of Mr. WHERRY. The Senator was into a unanimous-consent agreement, so 2 days would not make any difference so making some remarks. I will yield to far as the minority members are con­ far as Mayor O'Dwyer is concerned; if him, if he wants me to yield. I want to cerned, who are perfectly willing that there .is something to it, it ought to be be fair in my use of the time. the nomination shall be broug·ht up on cleared up for his own sake and for the I desire to say again that there is no Thursday at 1 o'clock, at which time good of the country. reft.ectinn on Mayor O'Dwyer in connec­ there can be such debate as may be Mr. CHAVEZ. Let us look at it from tion with this request. That statement necessary. In that way they will be this angle: I do not think that Mayor is 100-percent correct. The request afforded opportunity to make a deter­ O'Dwyer needs either the Senator from which is being made is the usual one. mination; and at that time, if another New Mexico or the ·Senator from Ne­ I did my level best to cooperate with unanimous-consent request should be braska to protect his integrity. the majority to get the nomination up made, we might be in a receptive mood. Mr. WHERRY. Very well-I am not for consideration, but anyone has a right I do not believe any Member of the suggesting that. to ask that nominations be passed over. Senate has been more cooperative in Mr. CHAVEZ. Now, I should like to As the Senator from New York has so the matter of unanimous-consent agree­ know, whether it takes 24 hours or 48 graciously said, reviewing senatorial ments than has the minority leader, the hours, what objections the Senator from courtesies on both sides, no one has com­ Senator from Nebraska. But I am not New York and the Senator from Ne­ plained about the action of the distin­ going to say now what time should be braska have to Mr. p'Dwyer. guished acting majority leader in bring­ fixed for voting on this nomination. If Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, I will ing up this nomination. It is true he there is no argument, we can vote on it answer that question. There is no ob­ said he would bring it up, and, when he in five seconds, and if there is argument, jection to bringing up the nomination for did so, the distinguished Senator from believe me, we are going to have plenty consideration Thursday. That is the New York made a statement in the of time to debate the nomination. We request which is being made by the RECORD in which, while paying tribute to shall know at 1 o'clock Thursday; and senior Senator from New York-or Wed­ Mayor O'Dwyer, he said he was not going that is only fair and reasonable. nesday, it would be Wednesday if it is to consent to taking up the nomination Mr. CHAVEZ. · Mr. President, will the postponed for 2 days. It is agreeable to at this time. This discussion all took Senator yield? make it Wednesday. There is no objec­ place following that. Mr. WHERRY. I yield. tion to that. Set the time, now, for 1 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· SENATE 15003 o'clock or 12 o'clock or 12: 30. After the The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Mr. LEHMAN. Mr. President, earlier nomination comes back, if the distin­ senior Senator from New York include today the senior Senator from New York guished Senator will propose a unani­ in his motion a specific hour, such as proposed that consideration of the nom­ mous-consent request, we shall be in po­ the hour of 1 o'clock? ination be postponed for 2 days, with the sition to state whether we want to grant Mr. IVES. That is agreeable to me. specific statement that he wished to the request as to the time limit. How­ The PRESIDING OFFICER. The take the matter up with the district at­ ever, if it is desired to force the nomina­ Senator from New York amends his mo­ torney of Kings County, N. Y. That tion, the effort to force it might as well tion accordingly. The question is on was a definite implication that the be made today as Wednesday. agreeing to the motion of the senior nomination would be voted on on Mr. CHAVEZ. Mr. President, will the Senator from New York that the Senate Wednesday next. I think there is a Senator yield? defer further consideration of this nom­ great deal in what the acting majority Mr. WHERRY. I yield. ination until 1 p. m. Wednesday of this leader has said, namely, that this may Mr. CHAVEZ. I hope, and I ask, that week. be an attempt to block consideration of the Senator from Nebraska and the Sen­ Mr. ANDERSON. Mr. President, that the nomination entirely until after ad­ ator from New York at that time state does not necessarily mean that it is to jourr_ment. If the suggestion of the to the Senate what objections, if any, be voted on at 1 o'clock, does it? minority leader means anything-and it they have to Mayor O'Dwyer. Mr. WHERRY. That is correct, it is a suggestion which he has repeated Mr. IVES. That is agreeable to me. will be voted on at~ o'clock. and was accepted by the acting majority · Mr. WHERRY. I cannot speak for The PRESIDING OFFICER. The mo­ leader-an hour certain for a vote on the distinguished Senator from New tion is that further consideration of the the nomination on Wednesday should be York, but so far as the minority leader pending question on the confirmation of fixed. is concerned, I shall be glad to state, at 1 the nomination of Mr. ·O'Dwyer be de­ Mr. ANDERSON. Mr. President, will o'clock Wednesday, when the nomination f erred until 1 p. m. Wednesday of this the Senator yield? comes up, whether there is any objection week. Mr. LEHMAN. I yield. then to a unanimous-consent request to Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, I Mr. ANDERSON. Does the Senator vote on the nomination immediately. . merely want to say a brief word in re­ from New York recall the discussion Mr. IVES. Mr. President, I yield the gard to the nomination. It has been which took place on this question on floor. thoroughly demonstrated to my satis­ Friday, September 15? Does he recall Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, in faction that there may be an effort on that the Senator from Iowa objected and order to get this matter before the Sen­ foot to postpone consideration of the that the majority leader stated that he ate, it may well be that no Senator de­ nomination until after Congress ad­ served notice that on Monday the Senate sires to postpone consideration of the journs. We may be ready to conclude would take up the nominations of both nomination until after the Senate re­ the session by Thursday; we do not Mr. Cohen and Mr. O'Dwyer? Does the cesses or.adjourns; I do not know. They know. I hope that the motion will be Senator recall further that the minority may have no such intention now, but defeated. leader then proposed that the nomina;.. they may entertain such an idEa on Mr. . WHERRY. Mr. President, I tion be passed over until Monday, and Wednesday, and perhaps they now desire think that statement should not go un­ the majority leader agreed to it? to leave the door open. Unless we can challenged. There is no effort at all on Mr. LEHMAN. I remember that very get a unanimous-consent agreement to the part of any member of the minor­ distinctly. vote on this nomination Wednesday, in­ ity to hold up this nomination or any Mr. ANDERSON. Does that not, in cluding a vote on any motions, if the other nGmination, if it is desired to take the opinion of the Senator from New nomination is before the Senate then, I it up. All we are asking is, as a matter York, dispose of any question of sena- shall insist a vote be taken today. of Senatorial courtesy, that the consid­ torial courtesy? - I ask unanimous consent that on eration of this nomination be deferred Mr. LEHMAN. It seems to me it took Wednesday next, at 2 o'clock, the Sen­ until 1 o'clock Wednesday; that is all. care of every possible consideration of ate proceed to vote upon this nomination, Mr. LEHMAN. Mr. President, will the senatorial courtesy. and upon any related motion which may Senator yield? Mr. ANDERSON. Does the Senator be pending at that time; that the time Mr. WHERRY. In a moment. To from New York know of a single Senator between 1 o'clock and 2 o'clock on show that I am acting in good faith, I who would object to having the nomina­ Wednesday be divided equally between propose a unanimous-consent request tion go over until Wednesday afternpon, the proponents and opponents; and that, that after the consideration of this nom­ provided a vote will be taken on Wednes­ on any motions, the debate be limited ination, on Wednesday, at some time day at a certain hour? Is it not a fact to 10 minutes, the time to be divided before the session closes, the acting ma­ that ~very Senator is willing to have the equally between the proponents and op­ jority leader, or the majority leader, nomination go over to a date certain if ponents. bring up the nomination for a vote before the time is fixed for a vote, but that there Mr. . WHERRY. Reserving the right the Senate either recesses or adjourns. is no one who is willing to put it off to object, it will be impossible for the He can get that kind o:: a unanimous­ simply until Wednesday, because on minority leader to agree to that unani­ consent agreement, but not until we Wednesday we may be asked to let the mous-consent request at this time. But have had a chance to look at this nomi­ nomination go over until Thursday, and I do say we are in perfect agreement nation in the time intervening, until 1 perhaps another newspaper story will ap­ about bringing up the nomination on o'clock on Wednesday. I submit that to pear in the meantime and then we will Wednesday at 1 o'clock, and, at 1 o'.clock the acting majority leader af. a modifica­ be asked to let it go over until Friday? we shall then be glad to negotiate on tion of the request. Mr. LEHMAN. That is correct. the basis of a unanimous-consent re­ Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, we Mr. ANDERSON. Some Senators feel quest. If that cannot be done, and we shall choose the time for presenting our that.the Congress ought to get away from are forced to vote on the nomination, own unanimous-consent requests. I re­ Washington by Wednesday. I hope the by agreeing to a unanimous-consent re­ fuse to accept the proposal of the junior Senator from .New York makes it plain quest in advance, before we .. ever get to Senator from Nebraska. that there is no one on this side of the debate on the subject, I shall have . to Mr. WHERRY. Does the Senator ob­ aisle who is objecting to waiting until object. · ject? Wednesday. The senior Senator from . The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objec­ Mr. McFARLAND. I 6bject to the New York made a specific request and tion is heard. minority leader's telling me when I could many Senators would like to accommo­ propose a unanimous-consent request. date him if there could be any assurance Mr. McFARLAND. Very well. :Wrr. WHERRY. Mr. President, a par­ that we would be able to vote on The PRESIDING OFFICER. The liamentary inquiry. Wednesday. question is on agreeing to the motion The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Mr. LEHMAN. The Senator from New made by the senior Senator from New Senator will state it. Mexico has fully and clearly stated the York that further consideration of this Mr. WHERRY. That was not my situation. The proposal now before the nomination be deferred until Wednes­ unanimous-consEmt request. My request Senate is quite different from the one day of this week. was in the nature of a substitute. which was made by my distinguished Mr. IVES. I ask for the yeas and nays. Mr. McFARLAND. That was _the colleague, the senior Senator from New The yeas and nays were ordered. substance of it. So I object. York. It means absolutely nothing. It 15004 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 can result only in more time being asked Mr. CORDON. Mr. President, will the of Representatives, where I served for for and more delay. I am perfectly will­ Senator yield? 10 years. In my view, the House has the ing to agree to a delay until Wednesday, Mr. McFARLAND. Yes. happy habit of frequently making its in order to satisfy all the amenities, pro­ Mr. CORDON. Under the unanimous­ rules as it goes along; in a sort of catch­ vided an hour certain is agreed on. consent request made-and I may iden­ as-catch-can maneuver. The Senate is Mr. IVES. The senior Senator from tify myself as the one who made the sug­ very seriously dedicated to the past and New York would like to make it clear that gestion-am I to understand that all the precedents, and what we do today will he has no thought of conducting any time, when no other matter is pending be looked at by Senators tomorrow, next filibuster on the matter. He has no before the Senate, between now and the year, and 2 years from tomorrow, in thought of taking any more of the time set for the vote will be available the same way that I look ba ~ k today Senate's time than is absolutely neces­ to any Senator to discuss this subject, to what we did only a few days ago sary. He has been very brief today, and but that on Wednesday there is com­ when, after listening to the very elo­ presumably on Wednesday, whatever the mitted to a discussion of this subject quent plea of the distinguished junior situation may be, he will take no more the period from 2 o'clock to 4 o'clock, Senator from Georgia, I along with time than he has taken today. There is during which time the opponents and many of my colleagues voted, strictly as no necessity for agreeing on a specific proponents may be heard and motions a matter of Senatorial courtesy, to dis­ time for voting. may be made, specifically a motion to approve one of the President's appoint­ Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, a recommit, and including a motion for ments to an important job. He was a Member of the minority side has come further continuance of the matter, and man I did not know, a man of whom I to me and suggested that I change the that all motions must be voted upon had never heard, and a man against voting hour to 4 o'clock. Accordingly, I beginning at 4 o'clock. whom there had been no charge con­ modify my unanimous-consent request Mr. McFARLAND. The Senator has cerning his character, loyalty, or integ­ to provide that the time between ·2 correctly stated the unanimous-consent rity. However, he was a man who in o'clock and 4 o'clock be divided with the request. opinion of the junior Senator from same provisions which I previously Mr. WHERRY. I again offer the modi­ Georgia, for whom I have great respect, stated. fication, that the consideration of the should not be confirmed. A little later Mr. FERGUSON. Mr. President, will nomination be deferred until 1 o'clock the distinguished junior Senator from the Senator yield? on Wednesday, provided that during the Iowa [Mr. GILLETTE] arosP. and urged Mr. McFARLAND. Yes. debate on Wednesday the majority us to vote against confirming the nom­ Mr. FERGUSON. If unanimous con­ leader or acting majority leader may ination of a judge in Iowa. He was a sent for 4 o'clock is given, no matter propose a unanimous-consent request man I had never heard of. He was a what the Senator from New York may with respect to having a vote on the man who the distinguished junior Sen­ ascertain in the meantime, a vote would nomination, and I ask that the nomina­ ator from Iowa said was admittedly a have to be taken at that time. We would tion be voted on before adjourning or worthy citizen of his State, but a man, not be able to vary the agreement, and recessing. in the Senator's opinion carefully ar­ the majority side wo.uld not be able Mr. MORSE.. Mr. President, .reserv­ rived at, whose nomination should not be to vary it. ing the right ·to object, I am satisfied confirmed. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The that we have reached the point in the The same day, on a third vote, we Senator from Arizona has the floor. Senate ·where we have been running voted against confirming a man appoint­ Mr. McFARLAND. I should like to unanimous-consent requests into the ed to a commission, a man by the name add to the statement that I did not pre­ ground so far as efficient operation of of Hutchinson, from Virginia, because clude any motions. I left the door wide the Senate is concerned. I do not think the senior and junior Senators from Vir­ open. If Senators are acting in good they have been working out satisfac­ ginia urged us as a matter of senatorial faith and wish to vote on the nomina­ torily in recent weeks. I think on a courtesy to give enough credence to their tion before we adjourn, they will accept great many occasions we would have viewpoint and their wishes not to vote the unanimous-consent request, because voted sooner than we did under a unan­ for his confirmation. Overw~1elmingly any kind of motion, including a motion imous-consent agreement if we had three times in a row the Senate con­ to recommit, could be made. simply proceeded with the business of firmed the principle of senatorial cour­ Mr. MORSE. Mr. President, a parlia­ the Senate. I am satisfied that on many tesy. These distinguished Democratic mentary inquiry. occasions they have been the cause of Senators made the plea. Three times The PRESIDING OFFICER. The delay rather than expediting the work Republicans joined with the Democratic Senator will state it. of the Senate. This particular unani­ Senators in confirming the principle of Mr. MORSE. What is the parliamen­ mous-consent agreement, so far as I can senatorial courtesy. tary situation? see, does not advance us one whit over Mr. ANDERSON. Mr. President, will the position we presently occupy, Come the Senator yield? The PRESIDING OFFICER. The 4 o'clock on Wednesday, there will be a Mr. MUNDT. I yield to the Senator Chair understands that the Senator motion for further postponement or re­ from New Mexico. · from Arizona proposed a unanimous­ committal. Therefore I object. Mr. ANDERSON. The Senator cer­ consent request that further considera­ The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objec­ tainly is not going to forget the vote tion of the nomination be deferred until tion is heard. 2 o'clock on Wednesday, and that the after the Senator from Michigan made a time between 2 o'clock and 4 o'clock on Mr. MUNDT. Before we vote on the strong fight against Mr. Hook, is he? Wednesday be divided equally by the measure I should like to make a state­ Was that senatorial courtesy? proponents and opponents, and that at ment to the acting majority leader, be­ Mr. MUNDT. It was. 4 o'clock the nomination be voted on. cause I think he misunderstood some Mr. ANDERSON. On both sides? Mr. FERGUSON. Mr. President, will questions that I had asked of the minor­ Mr. MUNDT. Yes. I am happy the the Senator yield? ity leader. I do not want the acting Senator remembered that case. I did not majority leader to think that I believe deliberately leave it out. It had slipped Mr. McFARLAND. Just a moment, he was acting without senatorial cour­ my mind. Four times we followed the please. The agreement also provides tesy. There is no man for whose sense that the Senate shall proceed to vote principle of senatorial courtesy. of fair play I have greater respect than If we are to break that precedent, let upon all motions, and that debate on all the acting majority leader. I think I motions be limited to 10 minutes, with us do it knowingly. Are we today justi- 5 minutes allotted to each side. should repeat in an affirmative state­ . fied in breaking a precedent, whereas a ment therefore the point I brought out few days ago, four times-not three­ Mr. FERGUSON. Mr. President, will in the interrogatories which I directed to the Senator yield for a question? relying in large part upon the judgment the distinguished minority leader, be­ of the Senators from the States affected, Mr. McFARLAND. Yes. cause we are about to take a vote which this body refused to confirm Presidential Mr. FERGUSON. Does that include a may come back to plague us. appointments in keeping with the prec­ motion to recommit the nomination to In the 2 years I have been in the Sen­ edents of senatorial courtesy? Are we the committee for further hearing? ate I have discovered that there is one going to break these precedents, and say Mr. McFARLAND. I said all motions. essential difference in a situation of this that today we are going to refuse his Any kind of motion could be made. kind between the Senate and the House plea, despite the very moderate and 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 15005 modest request of the senior Senator , Mr. MUNDT. Mr. ·President, I appre .. not the Senator realize that in this case from New York that he be given, as a ciate very much the contribution the the Committee on Foreign Relations has matter of senatorial courtesy, 2 days Senator from New Mexico has given, unanimously reported in favor of the in whichto bring in evidence? He is not which has tended to narrow the issue. confirmation of the nomination? asking us to reject the nomination. He Let us know exactly what wed '"' confront Mr. MUNDT. I have not any real is not asking us to do anything unusual. on the impending roll call. Neither the knowledge on the question, because there He is merely asking for 2 days, and character, the ability, nor the qualifi­ is no committee report in this case, so I we have offered to enter into a unani­ cations of Mayor O'Dwyer are at stake; must answer purely on hearsay. mous-consent agreement to vote on the they are not involved in the roll call; · Mr. ANDERSON. Is not the Senator nomination before adjournment. we ask only for an opportunity to learn willing to take the statement of mem­ Mr. CHAVEZ. Mr. President-- what they are before we vote. bers of the committee that that was the Mr. MUNDT. I shall yield in a few Mr. President, this is not a vote on decision? minutes. I wish to make the matter the qualifications of Mr. O'Dwyer, about . Mr. MUNDT. I am willing to take clear. I am talking as a very junior Sen­ which, as I have said, I know nothing; their statement, but I recognize that it ator from South Dakota, in the interest and I have no predilection either way, was made before this new evidence was of finding out what we are going to do I would like to know the facts. This is brought into the picture. I do not know about senatorial precedents, so that a vote to determine, in accprdance with how they would act now, with the full when this question comes up again some the rules on senatorial.courtesy, whether facts before them. time, as it is bound to, Senators who vote we shall extend to the senior Senator · Mr. ANDERSON. This is not evidence on the impending roll call will look back from New York the courtesy of permit­ brought into the .Picture; this is a news­ to see how they voted before, and to see ting him 2 days to determine upon some paper yarn. Does not the Senator re­ how they voted when they were urged to of the evidence which is alleged to be alize that the Senator from New York vote, as they did vote, by the Senators available about a citizen of his State, has not said that Mayor O'Dwyer is per-. from Virginia, Georgia, Iowa, and which people in his State want to pre­ sonally obnoxious to him. Michigan, so that we can be consistent in sent to the United States Senate. In Mr. MUNDT. Does not the Senator our rules on senatorial courtesy, and not · other words, if I take aright the argu­ think that the attitude of the Senator play politics with it, as we do with too ment of the Senator from New Mexico, from New York demonstrates a spirit of many other things. he says he would be perfectly willing to fair play, that . all he wants is for the Mr. CHAVEZ. Mr. President, will the uphold his position provided the senior Senate to consider the evidence? Senator yield now? Senator from New York were to object Mr. ANDERSON. I think he has Mr. MUNDT. I yield to the Senator to confirming Mayor O'Dwyer. Cer­ known Mayor O'Dwyer for years. The from New Mexico. tainly we should not penalize the Sena­ Senate has indicated it is ready to vote Mr. CHAVEZ. I am very glad the Sen­ tor from New York because of his sense on Wednesday. ator from South Dakota brought up the of fair play. Certainly we should not Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, objec .. four cases of which he speaks. I agreed penalize him by saying, "You are going to have to object now, before you get tion is made. Let us vote. with the two Senators from Georgia, I The PRESIDING OFFICER. The yeas agreed with the Senators from Virginia, the evidence, before your colleagues in the Senate will extend you the custom­ and nays have been ordered. Let the I agreed with the Senator from Michi­ Senate be in order. gan, and I agreed with the Senator from ary courtesy." I applaud and commend Iowa. There were objections. Irrespec­ the sense of fair play of the senior Sen­ Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, I ator from New York, who says he does suppose it may be too late to make the tive of })ow I feel toward Mr. O'Dwyer, plea I am about to make, but I make it if. the Senator from New York at this no~ want to object now. He says he may particular moment makes the same ob­ vote for the confirmation if a full set particularly to the Senator from Arizona, jection that the Senators from those in­ of facts can be developed. The same is the Senator from Texas, and the Sena­ dividual States made, I shall vote against true of the junior Senator from South tor from New York. I do not conside.r Mr. O'Dwyer. Let. us not confuse the is­ Dakota. He simply wants time to in­ myself a close friend, but I know Mayor sue now as to senatorial courtesy. Any vestigate the matter to get at the per­ O'Dwyer, and I have known him for a time the Senator from South Dakota ob­ tinent facts involved. What we are to number of years. I respect him. I re­ jects to the nomination of a postmaster vote on now, taking the definition of the spect what he has made of his life. I in his State, I will stick with him. Senator from New Mexico, is whether want to vote for his nomination as Am­ Mr. MUNDT. May I say-- or not we want to limit the principle of bassador to Mexico. Mr. CHAVEZ. Just a moment. This senatorial courtesy to those who rise What we confront is this situation: is not that class of case. In the first and object to someone, whether they There is a newspaper article from a rep­ place, outside of the Michigan case, the have reason to do so or not, and before utable newspaper, the New York Herald rest of them were individual, local cases. the evidence is given; or whether we are Tribune, by one who, so far as I know, A man was appointed as judge for a dis­ going to extend the courtesy of giving is a reputable reporter, and that article, trict in Georgia, as to which the two the Senator from New York-and any dated September 16, says that the arrest Senators from Georgia have the say, and Senator-an opportunity to present the of a man by the name of Gross may I was going to stick with them no mat­ evidence to his colleagues. involve many of the top officials of the ter what happened. The case of the I cannot bring myself to believe that New York police force who were un­ judge in Iowa was an individual case in the Senate, which four times a few weeks der Mayor O'Dwyer. The article fur­ that State. Whether it was Senator ago voted to extend the Members of the ther says that this is the investigation GILLETTE, or even Senator HICKENLOOP­ Senate the principle of senatorial cour­ by the district attorney which Mayor ER-if he had made the same kind of a tesy, is now going to discriminate in the O'Dwyer called a witch hunt. point, as to senatorial courtesy-- manner suggested against the senior In justice to those of us who want to Mr. MUNDT. The Senator's word Senator from New York, simply because vote to confirm Mayor O'Dwyer's nomi­ "even" is entirely superfluous. he asks for 2 days' time in which to get nation, it seems to me, to use colloquial Mr. CHAVEZ. That is all right. I de­ the evidence required to guide his de­ language, that the senior Senator from sire to protect the Senate. cision. New York should have the opportunity Mr.. MUNDT. If I may comment in Mr. ANDERSON. Mr. President, will to put up or shut up on Wednesday my own time-- the Senator yield? next, and that we should leave the mat­ Mr. CHAVEZ. Let me say that the . Mr. MUNDT. I yield to the Senator ter open for 2 days. I hope we will then only difference is that if the committee from New Mexico. vote and I hope I can vote for the con .. had not looked into the matter so much, Mr. ANDERSON. Does not the Sena­ firmation of Mayor O'Dwyer's nomina­ it would not make a bit of difference tor recognize any difference between the tion. But it seems to me that, in view whether we allowed 24 hours or 48 hours. other cases and the instant case? of this article in a reputable newspaper, What difference does it make? I do Mr. MUND'!_'. There are some differ­ which says that top officials in the po­ think it is only fair that both sides of the ences. lice department, under the control of matter should be worked out. Give them Mr. ANDERSON. Does not the Sena­ the mayor of the city, may be involved 48 hours, but tell us when we are to tor realize that in all four of the cases in a bad gambling set-up in the city of vote-at 1 o'clock, at 2 o'clock, or 4 he has referred to, the committee recom­ Brooklyn, we ought to hold the matter o'clock. mended against the candidates? Does in abeyance for 2 days. 15006 CONGRESSIONAL .RECORD-SENATE" SEPTEMBER 18 If the senior Senator from New York . Mr. President, I should like to make of sniffing around, then that evidence cannot produce evidence of the state­ one further statement about a matter can be laid before the Senate. If the ments of the district attorney at that which has been called to my attention senior Senator from New York, for whom time showing that there is warrant for by the senior Senator from New York. we all have the greatest respect, will then recommitting the nomination so that As I understand, if we take up the nomi­ stand up on the floor of the Senate and the committee itself may hear the evi­ nation on Wednesday we do so with the say, "I guarantee to the Senate of the dence and be satisfied one way or the idea of voting either to send it back to United States that I have evidence which other, and if statements are made on the committee or to send Mayor O'Dwyer to will make the Members believe that it floor which can satisfy us one way or Mexico. is wrong to confirm this nomination, the other, then we certainly should vote Mr. LEHMAN. Mr. President, will that the nominee is personally obnoxious to confirm Mayor O'Dwyer's nomination. the Senator yield? to me," he will not have a bit of diffi­ Mr. IVES. Mr. President, will the Mr. SALTONSTALL. I yield. culty, I think, with the Senate of the Senator yield? Mr. LEHMAN. Is it not a fact that United States, even though the commit­ Mr. SALTONSTALL. I yield. in connection with any unanimous­ tee has practically unanimously report­ Mr. IVES. The Senator from New consent agreement to vote on a bill or ed the nomination favorably. But I York is very grateful to the distin­ on a nomination at any given hour, a believe we ought to vote on this nom­ guished Senator from Massachusetts for motion to rec9mmit is always in order? ination. his testimonial. The Senator from New So will the Senator from Massachusetts Here is a man who came back from York, however, again wants it definitely point out to me what is unreasonable in California to attend the hearing of the understood that he is not trying to the request that a certain day and time committee, who offered to let any man block the nomination of former Mayor be set now to consider this nomination, who had evidence stand up and present O'Dwyer. All the Senator from N_ew to vote on it, or to consider any motions it so that he could confront him. The York is trying to do is to ascertain the · in regard .to it"? There is always the evidence now spoken of was available truth insofar as the truth may be possibility of recommitting it if, in the at that time, but was not presented to ascertainable. judgment of the Members of the Senate, the committee. It has since appeared in Mr. SALTONSTALL. I thank the that is wise. a newspaper story, after the committee The PRESIDING OFFICER. The has faithfully conducted and concluded Senator from New York. I do not want Senator from Massachusetts has the to give the impression that the Senator its public hearings. Now it is suggested from New York is trying to block the :floor. He can yield only for a question. that, because a story has s'ince appeared Mr. SALTONSTALL. I will say to the in the newspapers, we should wait until nomination. He is trying to get at the junior Senator from New York that, truth, and we are all trying to get at the we have a chance to look into it. The provided a reasonable hour is set for proposal of the Senator from Arizona truth. It is very embarrassing for a voting, let us say 4 or 5 or 6 o'clock, so Senator like myself who wants to vote was that if we wait two full days, thus far as I am concerned, if nothing detri­ giving anyone who wishes to do so an to confirm the nomination of Mayor mental has been produced before that O'Dwyer, who has great respect for what opportunity to look into the matter as time, I shall be willing to vote. much as he wishes, at the end of those Mayor O'Dwyer has made of his life, to Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, will be forced to vote today after an article 2 days the Senate of the United States the Senator yield? should consider the nomination, and such as the one to which reference has Mr. SALTONSTALL. I yield. then vote to recommit or to confirm. been made has appeared in the news­ Mr. paper. WHERRY. Mr. President, there It could be postponed for another 2 or is no use suggesting 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 3 or 4 or 5 days if the Senate of the Mr. CONNALLY. Mr. President, will o'clock or any hour as the time for vot­ United states thought there was evi­ the Senator yield? ing, because there simply is no possi­ dence presented which justified such ac­ Mr. SALTONSTALL. I yield. bility this afternoon of securing a tion. But oh, no, some Senators do not Mr. CONNALLY. Will the Senator unanimous-consent agreement to vote. want to do that. They say, in effect, , from Massachusetts agree, if we give 2 I ,have said, and I say again to substan­ ''We are going to be sur.e that when that days' time for this matter, that an hour tiate what the distinguished Senator has day comes we can again postpone and now be fixed at which time a vote will said, that I believe this matter can be postpone and postpone." ·And the Sen­ be taken? ironed out; I think we can later secure ator says, "I am not trying to block the Mr. SALTONSTALL. I would say to an agreement to vote without any diffi­ confirmation." the Senator from 'Texas that I am not in culty, but I cannot agree to a unani­ Mr. President, I ask: If the senior a position to do so. I believe that on mous-consent request this afternoon. Senator from New York is not willing to Wednesday this matter should be de­ The PRESIDING OFFICER. Has the stand up and say that this nomination bated, and after debate has been had, Senator from Massachusetts yielded the should be blocked, that this nomina­ if the Senator from Texas himself is :floor? tion should be delayed permanently, why agreeable to further consideration of Mr. SALTONSTALL. No, Mr. Presi­ should he ask the other Senators to do the matter by the committee, very well; dent. I simply wish to say in conclusion it? I realize, as all other Members of or if nothing is found from the district that I would most humbly suggest, as the Senate realize, the legislative posi­ attorney's letter which is detrimental, or one who wants to vote to confirm the tion we are now facing. If the confer­ if the district attorney is not willing to nomination of Mayor O'Dwyer, that the ence report on the bill dealing with sub­ say anything, we should then vote to Senator from Arizona permit the ques­ versives sliould come to the Senate, if the send Mayor O'Dwyer to Mexico. I hope tion to go over until Wednesday, and if conference report on the tax bill should the Senate will not postpone the matter nothing ·detrimental is found to exist, as come to the Senate, and both should be indefinitely. a result of the inquiry which will be agreed to promptly, there will be a drive Mr. CONNALLY. I know, but if we made, then we certainly should vote to to adjomn the Senate on Wednesday or are merely to wait 2 days, and then start send Mayor O'Dwyer to Mexico. Thursday .at the very latest; there will over, and go over the same matter again, Mr. ANDERSON. Mr. President, I de­ be a suggestion that Congress return to I am not in·favor of that. If the Sen­ sire to t~ke up_the suggestion made by Washington next November, and then ator will agree to a vote being taken at the distinguished Senator from Massa­ the suggestion can be made that we can a definite hour on Wednesday, I will chusetts when he said it is time to put put off the nomination. But remember agree that the nomination go over to up or shut up. I believe there is some­ that every day we do that we are dealing Wednesday; otherwise, I will not agree thing to that suggestion. I think the with a man's reputation. that it go over. Senator from Arizona has made a fair Here is an· individual who has tried Mr. SALTONSTALL. I cannot enter proposal, which is, that the nomination to serve his country in its uniform. into such an agreement. I will say to be taken up on Wednesday; that it be Here is a man who has been elected to the Senator from Texas that, so far as I discussed between 2 o'clock and 4 o'clock high office by overwhe.lming majorities am concerned, at an appropriate hour on that day; and that at 4 o'clock it be by the people who ought to know him on Wednesday, whether it be 2 or 3 or left wide open to any sort of motion, such best, the· people living around him. In 4 or 5 o'clock, I would be willing to vote as a motion to recommit, to postpone to the case of this man, when one little on a motion to recommit, to to send a later date; or to vote finally on con­ story appears that there may be graft in Mayor O'Dwyer to Mexico; and not to firmation. I only suggest that if there the police force in his town, then soi:ne­ postpone the nomination further. is any evidence developed in the 2 days one jumps to the conclusion that he 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 15007 must be connected in some way with that torney in New York. I am in favor of Mr. LEHMAN. And 'if the evidence graft. I know that stories of graft have him talking to the newspaperman who which the Senator believes he may re­ appeared in cities where top officials wrote the article. Then if the Senator ceive is unfavorable to the candidate, have not been at all connected with it. stands up on the :tloor of the Senate and former Mayor O'Dwyer, would the sen­ We have had discussions in this com­ says, "This man is venal and he should ior Senator from New York in any way munity about matters connected with not be confirmed," so great is the re­ be prevented from makirtg a motion to the police department, which did not spect for the senior Senator from New recommit, regardless of the hour set for reflect in the slightest upon the Com­ York and so great is senatorial courtesy the vote? missioners or upon the District Commit­ that I think the Senate would act in Mr. IVES. Not at all. tees of the Senate or House. I believe accordance with his request. But the Mr. LEHMAN. Then why not do the same applies to the situation in New Senator has not done that. He wants to that? York. telephone to the district attorney in New Mr. IVES. The senior Senator from Mr. MUNDT. Mr. President, will .the York. He can telephone in 2 days. New York would like to point out to his Senator yield? Mr. President, I yield the :fioor. distinguished colleague that setting the Mr. ANDERSON. I yield. Mr. IVES. Mr. President, in the first hour for the vote is one thing, and set­ Mr. MUNDT. First, I simply wish to place I should like matters straightened ting an hour for taking up and consider­ make clear the position set out by the out as to what the senior Senator from ing the nomination is something else. majority leader that certainly we are New York does think. So far as the The senior Senator from New York willing to enter into a unanimous-con­ senior Senator from New York is con­ feels that under the conditions which sent agreement to vote on the confirma­ cerned the nomination can be brought now exist, the time for taking the vote tion before adjournment. We have of­ to a vote today or any time the Senate itself should not be decided, but the only fered to do so. Primarily I ask the wants to if it cares to vote on the ques-· thing- on which agreement should be Senator from New Mexico if he does not tion under the conditions which now reached should be the time when the believe he is putting us up against a confront us. The senior Senator from Senate is to take up the nomination and rather rough shotgun situation when he New York will vote against the confirma­ consider it. says, "Either you have to vote on this tion at this time. And the senior Sena­ Mr. LEHMAN. Does ·not the senior matter today or agree to an hour certain tor from New York would suggest that Senator from New York realize that the next Wednesday at which to vote." That every Member of the Senate do likewise acting majority leader made a proposal seems to be imposing cloture upon the untfi. some of the questions which have that the vote be taken at 4 o'clock and Senate under a much more severe rule been raised are cleared up. that the time between 12 noon and 4 than has ever before been suggested. I o'clock be used for discussion of the nom­ think it is taking cloture too far when The senior Senator from New York stated his position very clearly la~t Fri­ ination? Of course, that would not in we are asked to agree to vote at a cer­ any way limit the right of the senior tain hour, before we know what the day night, when he said he was not op­ posing confirmation of the nomination. Senator from New York, if the evidence evidence may amount to or what debate was not in accor$,nce with his own may be warranted. · Last Friday night, had there been a vote on this question, the senior Senator views, so far as concerns the propriety Mr. ANDERSON. If the evidence is of making a motion to postpone or mak­ submitted, it should be submitted to the from New York would have voted in favor of confirmation of the nomination ing a motion to recommit. Committee on Foreign Relations. Sen­ Mr. IVES. The senior-Senator from ators should be willing to stand up and of former Mayor O'Dwyer. But over the week end there was found New York would like to point out one say, "I think this man is not the man thing to his distinguished colleague, for the position; that he is crooked; that in one newspaper the article which has been referred to in the Senate, and on namely, that a time limitation in that he is a bad person." But nothing like respect might preclude a determination that was said while the distinguished the next day there were similar articles . in other newspapers. of the matter on the basis of permitting Senator from Texas and his committee the Senate to have the information were conducting hearings. Witnesses If the Senate wishes to vote on the which has been referred to and. which appeared before the committee, but no nomination at this time, despite that may be extensive. one said anything about the matter situation, far be it from the senior Sen­ Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, I which has been discussed here today ator from New York to try to stop the do not wish to delay the vote on this until the hearings were closed. Senate. However, the senior Senator question. Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, may I from New York refuses to vote for con­ First, I wish to thank the senior Sena­ ask the distinguished Senator a ques­ firmation of the nomination under these tor from New York for his kind remarks tion? conditions. · about me. I appreciate them very much. Mr. ANDERSON. Yes. So tar as the question of bringing up I have tried to cooperate as best I could. Mr. WHERRY. Certainly during the any evidence is concerned, the senior I think I have extended every possible 2 days when the nomination would be Senator from New York has no inten­ courtesy. again before the committee, it would be tion of presenting before the Senate a I did not move to have the Senate con.. the committee's work to run down the case connected with this matter. That sider this nomination until I had con­ evidence. The Senator from New York is not the job of the senior Senator from ferred not only with the minority leader has not in any way indicated that he is New York. but with many other Senators on the going to build a case against the mayor. The senior Senator from New York minority side. 1 made the motion to All he wants to do is to have the evi-· will, however, get in touch with the dis­ have the Senate consider the nomina­ dence adduced, see what it is, and make trict attorney of King's County to ascer­ tion because no Senator objected to hav­ up his mind that when the Senate re­ tain from him his ideas, in line with ing the Senate take it up. sumes consideration of the nomination what was previously suggested; and if I wish the record to show that I would he shall vote "yea" or "nay" on confirma­ the district attorney of King's County have been willing to have proposed that tion. · Does not .the Senator from New can find no reason why, because of any the time for voting on the nomination be Mexico feel that it is the proper proce­ evidence which may be before him, the Wednesday, at any hour which might dure to recommit the nomination to the nomination of the former mayor of be agreeable; and had there been a state­ committee so that the committee can New York, Mayor O'Dwyer, should not ment that the nomination would be report back its :findings? be confirmed, then the senior Senator objected to, I would have done so. How­ Mr. ANDERSON. I would remind the from New York will so notify the Senate. ever, I feel that it is important that we distinguished minority leader that there However, beyond that, the senior Sena­ dispose of this nomination. is nothing in the pending proposal that tor from New York declines to go. If the motion to defer consideration would recommit the nomination to the Mr. LEHMAN. Mr. President, will of the nomination were to prevail, it committee. The Senator from New York the Senator yield? might well be that on Wednesday there is not insisting that the committee look Mr. IVES. Certainly. would be a motion for final adjournment at the nomination again. He is asking Mr. LEHMAN. Would not it be pos .. of the session; and immediately prior for 2 days' delay. Two days in which sible for the Senator to get the informa.. thereto, preferred matters would be con­ to do what? So he can call up the dis­ tion to which he has referred within the sidered by the Senate, and thus we might trict attorney in New York. I am in next 48 hours, if that is the. case? never have an opportunity to vote on the favor of him calling up the district at.; Mr. IVES, I should. think so. nomination. 15008 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, I should who object to the unanimous-consent by the senior Senator froni New York, like to have the record show that unan­ proposal, state that the nomination the Senate could grant a request to post­ imous consent was proposed by the Sen­ should be brought up again in the Sen- pone the vote further. ator from Nebraska to have the Senate ate on Wednesday next. Mr. IVES. The senior Senator from vote on the nomination before the Sen­ If that is the case, Mr. President, I New York does not recall a situation of ate takes a fin!l recess or adjournment. cannot understand why the nomination that nature. I should also like the record to show should not be brought to a conclusion Mr. RUSSELL. There is no question that the Senate is not going to take a on Wednesday. about it. To make sure, I shall pro- recess on Wednesday, and it cannot pos­ Mr. IVES. Mr. President, will the pound a parliamentary inquiry. sibly take a recess on Thursday. The Senator yield? The VICE PRESIDENT. The Sena- House Appropriations Committee will not Mr. RUSSELL. I yield. tor will state it. report the supplemental appropriation Mr. IVES. The senior Senator from Mr. RUSSELL. If the unanimous- bill to the House until Wednesday, and New York has no objection whatever to. consent agreement is .entered, to have that means we shall be very fortunate to having the nomination brought to a con- the Senate consider this matter on get out of here by Saturday of this week. clusion on Wednesday, if it can be Wednesday, at 2 o'clock, when the hour So there will be plenty of opportunity brought to a conclusion before midnight of 2 o'clock on Wednesday arrives, would to vote on the nomination and I think a on that day; but the senior Senator from it not be in order for a Senator to request unanimous-consent agreement could be New York merely objects to setting a def- unanimous consent for a further post­ reached in regard to having the Senate inite time for voting. ponement; and if that request were vote on the nomination. Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, I do granted by the Senate, would not such Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, .I de­ not see any difference between the two. further time be allowed? sire to make a brief statement before the In my view it is tweedle-dee and tweedle- The VICE PRESIDENT. By unani­ vote is taken, in view of the reference dum for a Senator to say that he will mous consent, a time for voting can be made by my distinguished friend, the a gree to have the Senate con·sider and changed. Senator from South Dakota [Mr. MUNDT] vote upon the nomination on Wednes- Mr. WHERRY. That is exactly the to certain other nominations which were day, but he will not agree to have a time request I made. I proposed that we con­ before the Senate a short time ago. I fixed for the Senate to vote on the nomi- sider the nomination; and I proposed think there is quite a bit of difference be­ nation on Wednesday. The proposed that by unanimous consent we would tween the two situations. unanimous-consent agreement protects agree, before the week is over, to vote on In the first place, it so happens that every right of the Senator from New the nomination. I appeared before the committee which York, and protects him in every courtesy Mr. RUSSELL. Perhaps inadvert­ was considering the other nomination, and every privilege and every immunity ently, Mr. President, we have solved this and I presented my objections to the which any Member of the ,Senate pos- entire matter, because there cannot be committee and the committee made an sesses. any question, from a parliamentary unfavorabie report on the nomination. On Wednesday, when the matter is standpoint, that, if the request of the Instead of trying to have the nomination reached, the Senator from New York can Senator from Arizona were granted, an­ delayed, on several occasions I sought rise in his place and can state to the other unanimous-consent request for a to have it brought forward and consid­ Senate, "This nomination is personally further postponement could be sub­ ered before the day on which it w~s con­ objectionable to me." So he is protected mitted on Wednesday at the hour agreed sidered by the Senate. in every right any Senator has when such upon. I hope I shall never be accused of a a matter comes before the Senate. He Mr. WHERRY. The only difference is lack of senatorial courtesy to any of my may make any motion he desires with as to the hour agreed upon. colleagues in this body, on either side of respect to the nomination. Mr. RUSSELL. Or at any hour. the aisle. Mr. IVES. Mr. President, will the Mr. WHERRY. Let me state how I If this matter were presented today, Senator yield? understood the situation in the first and if the distinguished senior Senator Mr. RUSSELL. I yield. place, following the statements by vari- from New York were to state, while Mr. IVES. Does the Senator construe ous senators in regard to unanimous·­ standing in his own place in the Senate, the understanding in connection with consent requests. My purpose was to and speaking on his own responsibility that proposal to be that the senior Sena- propose a unanimous-consent request as a Senator of the United States, that tor from New York would be granted ad- that before the Senate adjourned, we fix he objected to confirmation of the nomi­ ditional time, beyond the unanimous a day and hour certain on which the nation, that he had reason to believe consent agreement hour? Senate would vote on the nomination. that the statements appearing in the Mr. RUSSELL. If the Senator from Mr. RUSSELL. It would be necessary newspaper were true, and that it was for New York does not desire to postpone to submit the unanimous-consent re­ that reason that he objected to confir­ this matter beyond Wednesday, I cannot quest and get the agreement on it before mation of the nomination of former for the life of me see why he objects to the hour fixed for a vote, under this Mayor O'Dwyer, I certainly should sup­ the unanimous-consent request, because unanimous-consent agreement. port the distinguished senior Senator it protects him in every right, every Mr. WHERRY. The Senator's sug­ from New Yorl{ in that position; and to privilege, every immunity, and every gestion is identical with mine. It will my mind, that is as far as the matter of courtesy any Member of the Senate has. 1 ·be necessary to enter into a unanimous- senatorial courtesy goes, in connection Mr. IVES. The Senator from Geor- consent agreement in order to accom~ with dealing with a nomination. gia did not answer my question'. plish what the Senator from New York Here we have a matter which has been Mr. RUSSELL. Then let the Senator and the Senator from Nebraska have en­ brought up in the dying days of the ses­ from New York ask it again; perhaps I deavored to accomplish today. sion-or at least we hope they are the did not understand it. This entire mat- Mr. RUSSELL. Perhaps so. But if I . dying days of the session. The distin­ ter has been a bit devious to me. understood the Senator from New York guished acting majority leader, the Sen­ Mr. IVES. I can understand that, too, correctly, the unanimous-consent re­ ator from Arizona [Mr. McFARLAND], has f or it has been a little devious to me. quest which he submitted was merely one offered to put the nomination over until I was trying to get befor.e the Senate to postpone the matter until Wednesday. Wednesday, and that proposal conforms the matter with which we are faced, so Mr. IVES. Mr. President, it was not to the request of the Senator from New that all of us could see it, but we seem a unanimous-consent request; it was a York. That is what the Senator from to have run aground on a number of motion. New York first requested, namely, that shoals. Mr. RUSSELL. Then the Senator was he be allowed 2 days. In conformity I should like to ask the distinguished not willing to agree to a definite and with that request, the Senator from Ari­ Senator from Georgia if it is his con- fixed time for voting on the nomination, z:ma requested unanimous consent that struction of the proposed unanimous- is that correct? the nomination be considered on consent agreement that, by means of Mr. FERGUSON. Mr. President, will Wednesday. A postponement to Wed­ further unanimous consent, additional the Senator yield? nesday would be a postponement for time could be granted. Mr. RUSSELL: · I yield. the length of time the Senator from New Mr. RUSSELL. Of course that could Mr. FERGUSON. Would it not solve York originally suGge3tsd. Even these be done. If any evidence is obtained the problem completely if we were to 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--. SENATE 15009 make the nomination unfinished busi­ Mr. IVES. Because the Senator from: · · The · Senator from Georgia CMr. ness at an hour certain, Wednesday, to be New York does not want to lose the right, GEORGE] is necessarily absent, attending proceeded with until disposed of? · in event he might want to exercise it, of· a meeting of -the conference committee Mr. RUSSELL. It occurs to me that taking as long as he wants on this· matter. on the tax bill. ordinarily this matter would not be Mr. RUSSELL. The Senator is cer­ The Senator from South Carolina [Mr. worth debating; but we are hoping that tainly on firm ground there. [Laughter.] MAYBANK], the Senator from Florida we will be able to adjourn or recess this I shall stand with the Senator from New ,[Mr. PEPPER], and the Senator from Utah week. In the first place, I have thought York in his insistence upon taking as :cMr. THOMAS] are absent by leave of the it was rather unfortunate that unani­ long as he chooses upon this or ·any other Senate. mous consent should be asked to take up issue. · I believe in freedom of debate The Senator from Alabama [Mr. the nomination and consider it on in the Senate and will support the Sen­ SPARKMAN] is absent by leave of the Sen­ Wednesday, because that is the day we ator from New York.in his right to speak ate on official business, as a representa­ hope · the House will take up the con­ as long as he thinks necessary. But if tive of the United States to the fifth ses­ ference reports on the three bills which he objects to a unanimous-consent re-· sion of the General Assembly of the it is imperative to pass upon before Con­ quest such as the one proposed, he must United Nations. gress can recess or adjourn. But, in the speak when the issue is pending. The Senator from Idaho [Mr. TAYLOR] next place, every right the Senator from Mr. MUNDT. Mr. President, will the is absent because of illness in his family. New York requested was protected under Senator yield? The Senator from Arkansas [Mr. Mc­ the unanimous-consent request sub-· Mr. RUSSELL. I yield. CLELLAN] and the Senator from Ken­ mitted by the Senator from Arizona. Mr. MUNDT. I may say I am very tucky [Mr. WITHERS] are absent on offi- The reason I made these few remarks, happy the Senator from Georgia has said cial business. · Mr. President, was because I wished to that, because a few .moments ago, while The Senator from Illinois [Mr. LUCAS] clear the record. I believe that the he was absent from the Chamber an­ is paired on this vote with the Senator matter of senatorial courtesy extends swering a telephone call, I was resisting from Nevada [Mr. MA.LONE]. ·If present .across the aisle to both sides·and reaches an effort on the part of the Senator from and voting, the Senator from Illinois and flows to every Member of this body. New Mexico to obtain unanimous-con­ would vote "nay," and the Senator from But, in my opinion, this unanimous­ sent agreement to vote on Wednesday Nevada would vote "yea." consent request preserved every right of and to provide that the hour to vote now The Senator from Pennsylvania [Mr. - the Senator from New York, if. he did, be 'made certain. I felt sure the Senator MYERS] is paired on this vote with the indeed, desire to wind up this matter on from Georgia would not favor an effort Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. Wednesday. to impose that cloture. I was confident ToBEYJ. If present and voting, the Mr. ANDERSON and 'Mr. IVES ad­ he would not be in favor of a cloture Senator from Pennsylvania wouM vote dressed the Chair. which sets the hour to vote even before "nay," and the Senator from New Hamp­ The VICE PRESIDENT. Does the we hear the evidence. shire would vote "yea." Senator from Georgia yield, and, if so, Mr. RUSSELL. There is a 2reat deal If present and voting, the Senator to whom? . of difference between cloture and a from Georgia [Mr. GEORGE], the Senator Mr. RUSSELL. I yield to the Senator unanimous-consent request. from Arizona [Mr. HAYDEN], the Senator from New Mexico. Mr. . MUNDT. The results are the from Arkansas [Mr. McCLELLAN], the SEVERAL MEMBERS. Vote! Vote! same; debate is shut off by either tactic. Senator from Connecticut [Mr. Mc­ Mr. RUSSELL. I may say, Mr. Presi­ Mr. RUSSELL. A Senator can protect MAHON], the Senator from Maryland dent, that cries of "Vote!" will not influ­ himself by objecting to a unanimous­ [Mr. TYDINGS], ·and the Senator from ence me to desist in my determination consent request, but if a Senator wishes Kentucky [Mr. WITHERS] would vote to explain my reason for casting my vote . to speak at length upon this floor, on any "nay.'' as I intend to do when this nomination subject, it is my advice to him that he Mr. WHERRY. I announce that the is acted on. As a matter of fact, it be ready, able, and willing to speak when Sena.tor from Vermont [Mr. AIKEN], the might delay the vote somewhat. I yield the matter iS reached. If he is not ready Senator from Iowa [Mr. HICKENLOOPER]. to the Senator from New Mexico. and willing to speak then, he can lose the Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. Mr. ANDERSON. Mr. President, does that fundamental right of unlimited de­ .TOBEY], and the Senator from Michigan not the Senator think it best that the· bate in the Senate. [Mr. VANDENBERG] are absent by leave of unanimous-consent request of the Sena­ Mr. MUNDT. Mr. President, the Sen­ the Senate. tor from Arizona be modified so as to ator from New York will be ready on The Senator· from Vermont [Mr. permit the Senator from New York to· Wednesday. FLANDERS] is absent by leave of the Sen-· have 2 or 3 hours additional, ·if he so Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, I do not ate on official business as a temporary desires? I am not trying to shut otI the regard the unanimous-consent request alternate Governor of the World Bank. · Senator from New York, and I know of whic.h was propounded by the Senator The Senator from Maine [Mr. BREW­ no other Senator who is. It seems to me from Arizona as failing in any way to STER] and the Senator from New Jersey that if we were to go ahead with a nor­ observe all the courtesies and all the [Mr. SMITH] are absent by leave of the . mal unanimous-consent agreement to amenities which properly should and do Senate as representatives of the Ameri­ vote at 4 o'clock, with the understanding exist among Senators. can group to the Interparliamentary that the senior Senator from New York,' The VICE PRESIDENT.. The question Union. on his own volition, could occupy an­ 1S on agreeing to the motion made by the The Senator from New Hampshire other 2 hours, it ought to solve spmewhat Senator from New York to postpone· [Mr. BRIDGES] is absent because of ill­ that problem. further consideration of this nomination ness. Mr. IVES, Mr. President, will the· until 1 o'clock p. m., Wednesday next. The junior Senator from Ohio [Mr. Senator yield? · The yeas and nays having been· ordered, BRICKER], the senior Senator from In­ Mr. RUSSELL. I yield. the secretary will call the roll. diana [Mr. CAPEHART], the junior Senator Mr. IVES. Mr. President, the Senator The Chief Clerk called the roll. from Indiana [Mr. JENNER], the Senator. from New York does not know whether Mr. McFARLAND. I announce that from California [Mr. KNOWLAND], the he will need 2 or 3 hours, or 2 or 3 min­ the Senator from Virginia [Mr. BYRD J ~ Senator from Wisconsin [Mr. Mc­ utes. It is altogether conceivable that the Senator from Arizona [Mr. HAYDEN], CARTHY], and the senior Senator from very little time will be' required for this, the Senator from South Carolina [Mr. Ohio [Mr. TAFT] are necessarily absent. and that is the great absurdity in being JOHNSTON], the Senator from Illinois" The Senator from Massachusetts [Mr. so insistent upon trying to get a definite CMr. LucAsJ, the Senator from Connecti­ LonaEJ is absent by leave of the Senate hour for a vote. The Senator from New cut [Mr. McMAHON], the Senator from. on official business as a representative York has no doubt whatever in his mind Pennsylvania [Mr. MYERS], and the Sen­ · of the United States to the fifth session that this matter can be decided next ator from Maryland [Mr. TYDINGS] are of the General Assembly of the United Wednesday, day after tomorrow, "if the absent on public business. Nations. motion is agreed to. The Senator from California [Mr. The Senator from South Dakota [Mr. Mr. RUSSELL. Why does the Senator DOWNEY] is necessarily absent. GURNEY] and the Senator from Nevada object, then, to the unanimous-consent The Senator from Mississippi · [Mr. CMr. MALONE] are detained on official request? EASTLAND] is absent· because of illness. business. 15010 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 The Senator from Colorado [Mr. MIL­ request. I am willing to give the Sena­ Mr. IVES. The- Senator from New LIKIN] is detained on official committee tor from New York whatever time he York objects for -the reasons he has business at a meeting of the conferees needs, but I should like to see the time stated. on the tax bill. Ijmited, so that we might have a vote on The VICE PRESIDENT. The senior The Senator from Nevada [Mr. MA­ the question. I do not wisb to adjourn Senator from New York did not say to LONE] is paired with the Senator from without having voted on the nomination. prior to his making the motion to re­ Illinois [Mr. LucAsJ. If present and vot­ Mr. IVES. Do I understand the able commit. ing, the Senator from Nevada would vote Senator from Arizona to mean that he Mr. IVES. I object. I now move to "yea" and the Senator from Illinois is not disagreeing to the unanimous con­ r.ecommit to the· Committee on Foreign would vote "nay." sent request? Relations for further consideration, the The Senator from New Hampshire Mr. McFARLAND. How much time nomination of William O'Dwyer, of New [Mr. TOBEY] is paired with the Senator would the Senator from New York wish York, to be Ambassador to Mexico. I ask from Pennsylvania [Mr. MYERS]. If to take on Wednesday? I should like for the yeas and nays. · present and voting, the Senator from to have some limitation placed on the The VICE PRESIDENT. The ques­ New Hampshire would vote "yea" and time. tion is on agreeing to· the motion of the the Senator from Pennsylvania would Mr. IVES. The senior Senator from senior Senator from New York to recom­ vote "nay." New York has stated his case clearly in mit the nomination to the Committee on The result was announced-yeas 25, that connection. He does not want to Foreign Relations, on which he demands nays 36, as follows: have any limitation put on any time the yeas and nays. YEAS-25 he may desire to use. The yeas and nays were ordered, and the Chief Clerk called the roll. Butler Hendrickson Smith, Maine Mr. McFARLAND. If the request is Cain Ives Thye limited to the Senator from New York, Mr. McFARLAND. I announce that Cordon Kem Watkins I do not object. the Senator from Virginia [Mr. BYRD], Darby Langer Wherry the Senator from Arizona [Mr. HAYDEN], Donnell McCarran Wiley Mr. MUNDT. Reserving the right to Dworshak Martin Williams object, do I understand that the Senator the Senator from South Carolina [Mr. Ecton Mundt Young from New York has a wide open limit JOHNSTON], the Senator from Illinois Ferguson Saltonstall so far as his time is concerned? [Mr. LucAs], the Senator from Connect­ Frear Schoeppel icut [Mr. McMAHON], the Senator from NAYS-36 Mr. ANDERSON. As long as he wants to take. I believe the Senator from New. Pennsylvania [Mr. MYERS] and the Anderson Hoey McFarland York would understand that the time Senator from Maryland [Mr. TYDINGS] Benton Holland McKellar are absent on public business. Chapman Humphrey Magnuson would be granted to him and that he Chavez Hunt Morse could not yield to someone else to make The Senator from California [Mr. Connally Johnson, Colo. Murray a 4-hour speech or an 8-hour speech. DOWNEY] is necessarily absent. Douglas Johnson, Tex. Neely The Senator from Mississippi [Mr. Ellender Kefauver O'Conor He stated the reason he was objecting Fulbright Kerr O'Mahoney to the previous unanimous consent EASTLAND] is absent because of illness. Gillette Kilgore Robertson agreement was he may want to use a The Senator from Georgia [Mr. Graham Leahy Russell considerable amount of time. I am will­ GEORGE] is necessarily apsent, attending Green Lehman Stennis a meeting .of the conference committee Hill Long Thomas, Okla. ing to give him all the time he may need. on the tax bill. NOT VOTING-35 The Senator from South Carolina [Mr. Aiken Hickenlooper Myers Mr. MUNDT. Further reserving the MAYBANK], the Senator froin Florida Brewster Jenner Pepper right to object, although I am a Sena­ [Mr. PEPPER], and the Senator from Bricker Johnston, S. C. Smith, N. J. tor from South Dakota, I presume that J3ridges Knowland Sparkman Utah [Mr. THOMAS] are absent by leave Byrd Lodge Taft I am not qualified to be designated as a of the Senate. . Capehart Lucas Taylor Senator from the South, and I have no The Senator from Alabama [Mr. Downey McCarthy Thomas, Utah desire to take up the cudgels against Eastland McClellan Tobey SPARKMAN] is absent by leave of the Sen­ Flanders McMahon Tydings cloture now that it appears the southern ate on official business, as a representa­ George Malone Vandenberg Senators have dropped them. So long tive of the United States to the fifth ses­ Gurney Maybank Withers as the Senator from New York is to be Hayden Millikin sion of the General Assembly' of the permitted to speak under an open-end United Nations. So Mr. lvEs' motion to postpone was agreement, I shall not object. The Senator from Idaho [Mr. TAYLOR] rejected. The VICE PRESIDENT. The Chair is absent because of illness in his family. Mr. ANDERSON. Mr. President, I de­ understands that the unanimous-con­ The Senator from Kentucky [Mr. . sire to offer a unanimous consent re- sent request is based on the previous WITHERS] is absent on official business. •quest. I off er the same unanimous con­ µnanimous-consent request, which was The Senator from Pennsylvania [Mr. ! sent request which the Senator from that the Senate vote at 4 o'clock on MYERS] .is paired on this vote with the ''~rizona [Mr. McFARLAND] made pre­ Wednesday next. The · Senator from Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. viously with respect to voting on Wednes­ ·New Mexico adopts that unanimous­ TOBEY]. If present and voting, the Sen-. '. ~ay, but to provide that when the hour consent request with the proviso that ator from Pennsylvania would vote · for voting has arrived, if the Senator when the hour of 4 o'clock arrives, if the ''nay," and the Senator from New Hamp­ from New York desires additional time, senior Senator from New York desires shire would vote "yea." he shall have as much time as he may further time he may be given such addi­ If present and voting, the Senator desire. The thought was expressed that tional time as he may request. from Georgia [Mr. GEORGE], the Senator the Senator from New York may want Mr. IVES. In all fairness, the senior from Arizona [Mr. HAYDEN], the Senator additional time. I think he is entitled to Senator from New York appreciates the from Illinois [Mr. LucAs], the Senator have as much time as he desires. When proposals. However, the senior Senator from Connecticut [Mr. McMAHON], and we reach the hour of voting, if he feels from New York wants to point out to the the Senator from Kentucky [Mr. ~e should discuss the matter for an hour, Senate ·that the suggestion is unac­ WITHERS] would vote "nay." 2 hours, or 4 hours, he should be given ceptable. Does the· Senate really want . Mr. WHERRY. I announce that the the time he desires, and I am sure the to adopt a proposal of that kind, and Senator from Vermont [Mr. AIKEN], the Senate will be glad to listen to. him. thereby set a precedent under which one Senator from Iowa [Mr. HICKENLOOPER], Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, will Senator could conceivably conduct a one­ the Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. the Senator yield? inan filibuster lasting all night? I doubt ~OBEY], and the Senator from Michigan Mr. ANDERSON. I yield. the wisdom of such a course. Realizing 'rMr. VANDENBERG] are absent by leave of Mr. McFARLAND. I merely wish to what the proposal is, Mr. President, I the Senate. say that the senior Senator from New now move that the nomination be re­ · The Senator from Vermont [Mr. Mexico had asked me to make the unan­ committed to the committee. FLANDERS] is absent by leave of the Sen­ imous consent request. I told him that The VICE PRESIDENT. The ques­ ate on official business as a temporary he could make it because I had made so tion is whether there is objection to the alternate Governor of the World Bank. µiany requests and .had failed in them unanimous-consent request proposed by· The Senator from Maine [Mr. BREW­ that I would be perfectly willing to have the Senator from New Mexico [Mr. STER] and the Senator from ~ew Jersey the Senator from New Mexico make the ANDERSON]. [Mr. SMITH] are absent by leave of the 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 15011 Senate as representatives of the Ameri­ Therefore, Mr. President, I shall vote CARTHYJ, and the senior Senator from can group to the Interparliamentary against confirmation of his nomination. Ohio [Mr. TAFT] are necessarily absent. Union. I ask for the yeas and nays. The Senator from Massachusetts [Mr. The Senator from New Hampshire The yeas and nays were ordered, and LODGE] is absent by leave of the Senate [Mr. BRIDGES] is absent because of ill­ the Chief Clerk called the roll. on official business as a representative ness. Mr. McFARLAND. I announce that of the United States to the fifth session The junior Senator from Ohio [Mr. the Senator from Virginia [Mr. BYRDJ. of the General Assembly of the United BRICKER], the senior Senator from In­ the Senator from Arizona [Mr. HAYDEN]. Nations. diana [Mr. CAPEHART], the junior Sena­ the Senator from South Carolina [Mr. The Senator from Colorado [Mr. tor from Indiana [Mr. JENNER], the Sen­ JOHNSTON], the Senator from illinois MILLIKIN] is detained on official com­ ator from California [Mr. KNOWLANDJ. [Mr. LucAsJ, the Senator from Connecti­ mittee business at a meeting of the con­ the Senator from Wisconsin [Mr. Mc­ cut [Mr. McMAHON], the Senator from ferees on the tax bill. CARTHY], and the senior Senator from Pennsylvania [Mr. MYERS], and the The Senator from New Hampshire Ohio [Mr. TAFT] are necessarily absent. Senator from Maryland [Mr. TYDINGS] [Mr. TOBEY] is paired with the Senator The Senator from Massachusetts [Mr. are absent on public business. from Pennsylvania [Mr. MYERS]. If LODGE] is absent by leave of the Senate The Senator from California [Mr. present and voting, the Senator from on official business as a representative DOWNEY] is necessarily absent. New Hampshire would vote "nay'' and of the United States to the fifth session The Senator from Mississippi [Mr. the Senator from Pennsylvania would of the General Assembly of the United EASTLAND] is absent because of illness. vote "yea." Nations. The Senator from Georgia [Mr. The result was-yeas 42, nays 22, as The Senator from Colorado [Mr. MIL­ GEORGE] is necessarily absent, attending follows: LIKIN] is detained on official committee a meeting of the conference committee YEAs-42 business at a meeting of the conferees on the tax bill. Anderson Holland McKellar on the tax bill. The Senator from South Carolina [Mr. Benton Humphrey Magnuson The Senator from New Hampshire MAYBANK], the Senator from Florida Chapman Hunt Morse [Mr. PEPPER], and the Senator from Utah Chavez Johnson, Colo. Murray [Mr. TOBEY] is paired with the Senator Connally Johnson, Tex. Neely from Pennsylvania [Mr. MYERS]. If [Mr. THOMAS] are absent by leave of the Douglas Kefauver O'Conor present and voting, the Senator from Senate. Ellender Kerr O'Mahoney The Senator from Alabama [Mr. Frear Kilgore Robertson New Hampshire would vote "yea" and" Fulbright Leahy Russell the Senator from Pennsylvania would SPARKMAN] is absent by leave of the Sen­ Gillette Lehman Saltonstall vote "nay." ate on official business, as a representa .. Graham Long Smith, Maine tive of the United States to the fifth Green McCarran Stennis The result was announced-yeas 24, Hill McClellan Thomas, Okla. nays 40, as follows: session of the General Assembly of the Hoey McFarland Wiley YEAS-24 United Nations. The Senator from Idaho [Mr. TAYLOR] NAYS-22 Butler Gurney Saltonstall is absent because of illness in his family. Butler Gurney Schoeppel Cain Hendrickson Schoeppe_l Cain Hendrickson Thye Gordon Ives Thye The Senator from Kentucky [Mr. Cordon Ives Watkins Darby Kem Watkins WITHERS] is absent on official busitless. Darby Kem Wherry Donnell Langer Wherry The Senator from Pennsylvania [Mr. Donnell Langer Williams Dworshak Malone Wiley MYERS] is paired on this vote with the Dworshak Malone Young Ecton Martin Williams Ecton Martin Ferguson Mundt . Young Senator from New Hampshire [Mr• Ferguson Mundt TOBEY].. If present and voting, the Sen­ NAYS-40 NOT VOTING-32 Holland McKellar ator from Pennsylvania would vote Anderson "yea," and the Senator from New Hamp­ Aiken Hickenlooper Pepper Benton Humphrey Magnuson Brewster Jenner Smith,N.J. Chapman Hunt Morse shire would vote "nay.'' Bricker Johnston, S. C. Sparkman Chavez Johnson, Colo. Murray If present and voting, the Senator Bridges Knowland Taft Connally Johnson, Tex. Neely from Georgia [Mr. GEORGE], the Senator Byrd Lodge Taylor Douglas Kefauver O'Conor Capehart Lucas Thomas, Utah Ellender Kerr O'Mahoney from Arizona [Mr. HAYDEN], the Sena­ Downey McCarthy Tobey Frear Kilgore Robertson tors from South Carolina [Mr. JOHNS­ Eastland McMahon Tydings Fulbright Leahy Russell Vandenberg Smith, Maine TON and Mr. MAYBANK], the Senator Flanders Maybank Gillette Lehman George Millikin Withers Graham Long Stennis from Illinois [Mr. LucAsJ, the Senator · Hayden Myers Green McCarran Thomas, Okla. from Connecticut [Mr. McMAHON], the Hill McClellan So the nomination was confirmed. McFarland Senator from Florida [Mr. PEPPER], the Hoey Senator from Alabama [Mr. SPARKMAN], Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, NOT VOTING-32 the Senator from Maryland [Mr. may we complete the calendar? Aiken Hickenlooper Pepper TYDINGS], and the Senator from Ken­ The VICE PRESIDENT. The Chair Brewster Jenner Smith, N. J . was about to instruct the Secretary to Bricker Johnston, S. C. Sparkman tucky [Mr. WITHERS] would vote "yea.'' Bridges Knowland Taft Mr. WHERRY. I announce that the state the next nomination on the calen­ Byrd Lodge Taylor Senator from Vermont [Mr. AIKEN], the dar. Capehart Lucas Thomas, Utah Mr. DONNELL. Mr. President, as to Downey McCarthy Tobey Senator from Iowa [Mr. HICKENLOOPER]. Eastland McMahon Tydings the Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. the previous nomination, there was so Flanders Maybank Vandenberg TOBEY], and the Senator from Michigan much noise I could not hear whether George Millikin Withers [Mr. VANDENBERG] are absent by leave of there was any mention of notifying the . ~ayden Myers the Senate. President. So the motion of Mr. IVES to recommit The Senator from Vermont [Mr. FLAN• The VICE PRESIDENT. No mention was rejected. DERSJ is absent by leave of the Senate on was made of that. The VICE PRESIDENT. The ques­ official business as a temporary alternate Mr. DONNELL. Very well. I would tion is, Will the Senate advise and con­ Governor of the World Bank. have objected if there had been such a sent to the nomination of William The Senator from Maine [Mr. BREW­ request. O'Dwyer of New York to be Ambassador STER] and the Senator from New Jersey Extrao:;:dinary and Plenipotentiary of the [Mr. SMITH] are absent by leave of the AIR FORCE OF THE UNITED STATES United States of America to Mexico? Senate as representatives of the Ameri­ Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, I Mr. IVES. Mr. President, I had hoped can group to the Interparliamentary ask that the nominations in the Air to vote in favor of the confirmation of Union. Force be confirmed en bloc. the nomination of former Mayor O'Dwy­ The Senator from New Hampshire · The VICE PRESIDENT. Without ob­ er. As I stated several times in the [Mr. BRIDGES] is absent because of illness. jection, the nominations in the Air course of this discussion, both on Friday The junior Senator from Ohio [Mr. Force of the United States, the United and today, I have no ill feeling whatever BRICKER], the senior Senator from In· States Air Force Reserve, and the toward him. I do ·indeed, however, diana [Mr. CAPEHART], the junior Sena­ United States Air Force, are confirmed doubt the wisdom of confirming his nom­ tor from Indiana [Mr. JENNER], the Sen­ en bloc. ination at this t.ime when so much of a ator from Califo.rnia [Mr. KNOWLANDl, Mr. McFARLAND. Does that com­ dubious nature is still in question. the Senator from Wisconsin [Mr. . Mc"'I plete the calendar? 15012 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 The VICE PRESIDENT. That com­ of the following: ": Provided, That if convey­ by the Government, reserving eight pletes the Executive Calendar. ance hereunder is made to the State of Iowa. buildings for Army use. This property the instrument of conveyance shall provide has been declared surplus and the State Mr. McFARLAND. I now move that that said State shall not alienate title to said the Senate proceed to the consideration property or any part thereof, but shall keep of Iowa, which formerly purchased the of legislative business. · it intact and use it for public purposes, and property with funds raised by public Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President, be­ that if the United States needs the prop­ subscription and donated it to the Gov­ fore the motion is put, I should like to erty for military purposes, it shall revert to ernment about the year 1901 as a site make a parliamentary inquiry. the United States with payment to the State for an Army post, now desires to have The VICE PRESIDENT. The Sena­ of the reasonable value at that time for any it returned for use by its National Guard tor will state it. improvements thereon made by the S:tate"; and for other public purposes. Mr. WHERRY. There are other and the Senate agree to the same. SPESSARD L. HOLLAND. The Senate amended the bill to make nominations on the calendar. Were they VIRGIL M. CHAPMAN, the transfer of the property discretion­ passed over? HARRY P. CAIN, ary, and also on a subsequent request of The VICE PRESIDENT. The Chair Managers on the Part of the Senate. the Army excepted three additional is advised that the other nominations WILL M. WHITTINGTON, buildings for its use, and also at the re­ were Air Force nominations. CLIFFORD DAVIS, quest of the Housing and Home Finance Mr. WHERRY. No; I do not refer to GEORGE A. DONDERO• Agency required the continued use of those. · PAUL CUNNINGHAM, certain buildings now occupied by vet­ The VICE PRESIDENT. The nomi­ Managers on the Part of the House. erans as temporary housing quarters. nations of Morris L. Ernst and Emory The House conferees agreed to these Byington Smith were passed over. Mr. HOLLAND. Mr. President, I ask amendments, .nuinbered 1, 4, and 5. Mr. WHERRY. I thank the Chair. for the present consideration of the re­ port. With respect to amendment No. 3, LEGISLATIVE SESSION which was the amendment of the Sena­ There being no objection, the Senate tor from Oregon which required that Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, I proceeded to cc,msider the report. . compensation be paid by the State of renew my motion that the Senate re­ Mr. HOLLAND obtained the floor. Iowa in the amount of 50 percent of sume the consideration of legislative Mr. FULBRIGHT. Mr. President, will the appraised value of the property. business. the Senator yield. the Senate amended the bill to pro­ The motion was agreed to, and the Mr. HOLLAND. Since the Presiding vide for payment by the State of con­ S3nate resumed the consideration of Officer has recognized me, I should pre­ sideration in the amount of one-half of legislative business . . f er not to yield, although I am perfectly the appraised value of the property with DISCHARGE OF FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION willing for th~ Senator from Arkansas to the improvements thereon. The con­ TO IRAN be first recognized, and then to ask him ferees agreed that appropriate consid­ to yield to enable me to discuss the con­ Mr. McFARLAND. Mr. President, I eration should be paid to the United ference report on H. R. 4569. It is for States for the transfer of this property, move that the Senate proceed to the that purpose that the Senator from consideration of H. R. 5731. · but concluded that there were several Florida rises. elements involved in the proposed trans­ The VICE PRESIDENT. The clerk Mr . ..FULBRIGHT. I shall not inter­ will state the bill by title. fer-which, it was agreed, would c.onsti­ rupt the Senator at this time. tute appropriate and adequate compen­ The LEGISLATIVE CLERK. A bill (H. R. . Mr. HOLLAND. Mr . . President, I !;)731) to discharge a fiduciary obligation sation .in this· case. These elements are should like to make a statement with re­ as follows-and I especially_ask the Sen­ to Iran. spect to the conference report. The VICE PRESIDENT. The ques­ ate to follow this statement. In other . Mr. WHERRY. Mr. President-- words, the conferees were unanimously tion is on agreeing to the motion of the The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. HOEY Senator from Arizona. · of the feeling that there were five mat­ in the chair). Does the Senator from ters in connection with this proposed The motion was agreed to; and the florida yield to the Senator from Ne­ Senate proceeded to consider the bill. transfer which did operate to give sub­ braska? stantial consideration to the United TRANSFER OF FORT DES MOINES, IOWA, Mr. HOLLAND. I yield. States Government~ and they will be TO STATE OF IOWA-CONFERENCE . Mr. WHERRY. Will the distin­ listed by me as follows: REPORT guished Senator from Florida give us an First. The State purchased this prop­ Mr. HOLLAND. Mr. President, I sub­ explanation of the report? Does it com­ erty originally, about 1901, with funds mit a conference report on House bill ply with the amendment offered by the made available by Iowa citizens, at a 4569, and ask unanimous consent for its Senator from Oregon regarding the cost of $64,000, and donated it to the immediate consid~ration. transfer? United States fc;>r use as an army post, The VICE PRESIDENT. The report Mr. HOLLAND. Mr. President, in which use has now been discontinued. will be read for the information of the answering the Senator from Nebraska, I In other words, the money for the pur­ Senate. would say that two of the amendments chase, $64,000, . was Iowa's money and The report was read, as follows: adopted on the motion of the Senator the consideration was the establish­ from Oregon are retained in the confer­ ment of an army post there, which has The committee of conference on the dis­ ence report, and that one, which I think been established, and has operated there agreeing votes of the two Houses on the the Senator from Oregon considered as for a good many years, is not operated amendments of the Senate to the bill (H. R. his principal amendment, is not retained. there now, and under the bill would be 4569) authorizing the transfer of Fort Des I hope that the Senator from Nebraska Moines, Iowa, to the State of Iowa, having discontinued, of course. The conferees met, after tun and free conference, have will give attention to this matter. The felt that that was substantial con­ agreed to recommend and do recommend to Senator from Oregon has been apprised sideration. their respective Houses as ;follows: of the whole situation, and the conferees Second. The bill was changed in con­ That the House recede from its disagree­ agreed not to bring up the matter until ference to pr.ovide-and that is one of ment to the amendments of the Senate num­ ·he was on the floor. the amendments already reported as bered 1, 4, and 5; and agree to the same. Mr. President, I hope that the Mem­ coming from the conference-to the Amendment numbered 2: That the House bers of the Senate will listen just a couple effect that the State must .devote the recede from its disagreement to the amend­ of minutes. This is the conference re­ ment of the Senate numbered 2, and agree property to public use only, and will to the same with an amendment, as follows: port on the Fort Des Moines bill. keep the property intact, that is, with­ P age 1, lines 6 and 7, in lieu of the language On behalf of the Senate conferees on out alienation of any portions of it, and stricken out by the Senate insert the follow­ the bill H. R. 4569, I should like to make return it to the United States upon re­ ing: "without consideration save as con­ the following statement with respect to quest of the United States upon payment tained in this act"; and the Senate agree to the action agreed upon and recom­ of the fair value of any improvements the same. mended in the conference report. added by the State from this time forth Amendment numbered 3: That the House R. in the event the property is needed again recede from its disagreement to the amend­ H. 4569 as passed by the House au­ ment of the Senate numbered 3, and agree thorizes and directs the transfer to the for military purposes. to the same with an amendment, as follows: State of Iowa of about 640 acres of land. Third. The Army reserved the right to Page 1, line 9, strike out the language in­ with improvements thereon, known as use 11 building units for its purposes. serted by the Senat.e and insert in lieu there- Fort Des Moines Army Post, now owned Eight were included in the House bill. 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 15013 Three additional ones were added by reasonable value of any improvements There being no objection, the state­ one of the amendments proposed by the added by the State of Iowa must be paid, ment was . ordered to be printed in the Senator from Oregon. and the requirement that only public use RECORD, as fallows: · Fourth. The units now occupied by should be made of the property, and the MEMORANDUM ON H. R. 4569, TRANSFER OF veterans as temporary housing will be requirement that there should be no FORT DES MOINES, IowA, PROPERTY maintained. Those units comprise a alienation of any portions of the prop­ H. R. 4569 was passed by the House Au­ considerable part of the barracks that erty. gust 1, 1949, and was referred to the Com­ were used in the Second World War, The other elements which, in the opin­ mittee on Public Works in the Senate Au­ as the Senator from Florida understands. ion of the conference committee, con­ gust 2. It was considered by the Subcom­ by the WACS. They were reconstructed stituted substantial consideration to the mittee on Buildings and Grounds, of which the Senator from Florida is chairman, and into apartments. They are now used United States Government have already the junior Senator from Washington is the for veterans' apartments, for veterans been stated, and I shall not repeat them. ranking minority member. We went into and their families, and they are used I hope that the Senate will adopt the this bill carefully and reported it to the on the basis of rent which does not take conference report. Senate on August 19, 1949. On the call of care of any cost or .investment at all. Mr. CAIN. Mr. President, the junior the calendar shortly after that date it was but simply for the cost of operation. It Senator from Washington should like to objected to by the Senator from Oregon. was felt that there was a real considera­ join in support of the position which This objection was continued until just a tion to the United States in the agree­ few days ago when the bill was passed by has just been offered by the Senator the Senate with amendments proposed by ment for the State to take title under from Florida [Mr. HOLLAND]. In addi­ the Senator from Oregon. I want to point this act to continue this operation now tion, I should like to reflect very briefly out that from the time the bill was reported under way, under the local housing on the historical background of the leg-. to the Senate to the time it was finally authority in Des Moines. islation by saying that H. R. 4569 was taken up, a period of 1 year had elapsed, Fifth. The State will furnish, and is passed by the House on August 1, 1949, during which time any Senator had ample required by the.bill to furnish, all neces­ and was referred to the Committee on opportunity to work out any fair and equi­ table arrangements concerning the disposal sary sewerage facilities for the 11 build­ Public Works of the Senate on the next of this property. ing units just mentioned, without cost, day, August 2, 1949. It was considered . The conferees- considered thoroughly all and must furnish electricity and water by the Subcommittee on Buildings and the merits of this proposal and arrived at at the prevailing rate in the locality, or Grounds, of which the Senator from a compromise which we feel is fair to all at cost, whichever is lower, so long as the Florida [Mr. HOLLAND] is chairman, on parties concerned-the citizens and officials buildings are used by the United States which the junior Senator from Wash­ of the State of Iowa, the Federal Govern­ for military purposes. ington is the ranking minority member. ment, and the principles which the Senator from Oregon is endeavoring to uphold in the Accordingly, the conferees agreed to That subcommittee went into this bill Senate. In the first place, we have provided change the language of the amendment most carefully, and reported it to the that the transfer will be entirely discretion­ numbered 3 to provide that if the land is Senate on August 19, 1949. On the call ary on the part of the United States. So, ~onveyed to the State under the terms ·of of the calendar shortly after that date if any rapid change in the military situation this act the conveyance shall provide it was objected to by the Senator from should so require, the Federal representa­ that the State shall not alienate title to Oregon [Mr. MORSEL This objection, tives are free to defer all action under this sir, was continued until just a few days bill, without any strings attached, for so the property but shall use it for public long as they think conditions warrant. purposes and shall keep it intact, and ago, when the .bill was passed by the In the second place, we feel that we have that if it is needed for military purposes Senate with amendments proposed by gone the full reasonable extent in upholding it shall revert to the United States. In the Senator from Oregon. I want to the principles of the Senator from Oregon the opinion of the conferees, this change, point out that from the time the bill in requiring adequate consideration under together with the elements mentioned was reported to the Senate to the time the particular circumstances relating to this above, will accomplish the purposes of when it was finally taken up, a period of property. The Army post at Fort Des Moines, Iowa, the Senate amendment. more than a full year had elapsed, dur­ was established in 1901 as a cavalry post. A Mr. President, I should say that the ing which time any Senator had ample cavalry post was needed in this area and conferees on behalf of the Senate com­ opportunity, it seems to the Senator this locality was considered to be a stra­ prise the f ollowirig: The Senator from from Washington, to work out any fair tegic location for such a post at that time. Kentucky [Mr. CHAPMAN], -the Senator and equitable arrangement concerning The governor appointed a committee of citi­ from Washington [Mr. CAIN], and the zens who raised the money and purchased a the disposal of this property. total of 640 acres of land and then deeded junior Senator from Florida. The con­ The conferees, Mr. President, consid­ the land directly . to the Federal Govern­ ferees on the part of the House comprise eJ;"ed thoroughly all the merits of this ment for use as a cavalry post. It was 'the following: The gentleman from Mis­ proposal and arrived at a compromise abandoned as a cavalry post about 1940. sissippi [Mr. WHITTINGTON], the gentle­ which we felt was fair to all parties con­ During World War I the post was used man from Te.nnessee [Mr. DAVIS], the cerned-to the citizens and officials of as a small training center for officers, but gentleman from Michigan [Mr. DON­ the State of Iowa, to the Federal Gov­ it was not large enough for a major center, DERO J, and the· gentleman from Iowa and the Army had established a cantonment [Mr. CUNNINGHAM]. All those conferees ernment and to the principles which at Camp Dodge, about 20 miles away, which · named have agreed to · the report and the Senator from Oregon has endeav­ was some 20 times as large as this small have signed the conference report. There ored so well to uphold in the Senate. piece of ground at Fort Des Moines. In the first place, we have provided that During World War II it was used as a WAC was a fifth conferee on the part of the training center, and a number of temporary House, Mr. LARCADE, who, unfortunately, the transfer will be entirely discre­ buildings were erected to house the Wacs. was not in Washington, and therefore tionary on the part of the United States. At the close of the war, the property was did not attend the conference and does 'l'herefore, if any rapid change in the abandoned by the Army, and it was declared not join in signing the conference report. military situation should so require, the surplus to the War Assets Administration Mr. President, in conclusion, to sum­ Federal representatives are free to defer on June 30, 1947, for disposal. Subsequently, 'all action under this bill, without any several buildings have been returned to the marize, all the Senate amendments re­ Army and the Air Force for use by the Organ­ main in the bill except the one with ref­ strings attached, for so long as they ized Reserve. Also the temporary barracks 'erence to compensation. With reference think conditions warrant. constructed for the Wacs have been re­ ~o the matter of compensation, certain In the secon!} place, we feel that we modeled in cooperation with the Housing changes were made in the bill, and cer­ have gone the full reasonable extent in and Home Finance Agency and the city of upholding the principles of the Senator ))es Moines to provide veterans' housing. tain factors were taken into considera­ There are more than 900 veterans' families tion, which the conferees felt were not from Oregon in requiring adequate con­ living in these barracks at the present time. . ~aken into consideration by the Senate sideration under the particular circum­ When this property was declared surplus, amendment and which made the trans­ stances relating to this property. 1t became evident that it was of no value action a sounder one for the United Mr. President, a statement I have pre­ to any one Federal agency, and certain parts States. The changes made in the bill pared is at further length, and I ask of it were put in public use to serve both the remaining interests and the local in­ were to require that the property would unanimous consent that it may be made terests of veterans' families. I am told that revert whenever asked for, for military a part of my remarks at this point in the the Federal officials began discussions with use, with the requirement that only the body of the RECORD. the State and local officials regarding the XCVI-·-945 --·-. '15014 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 eventual disposal of the property and sug. within the Senate in the disposal of Fed­ f erence committee in this particular gested that the State might take it over for­ eral property. There is more than one_ leaves me no other course of action now public use, since the State would apparently Senator in this body who has in. good but to say that in the future, unless the have the major interest in such public use.' faith, in keeping with the policy of that legislation itself which comes to the Pursuing this suggestion, the State senate Senate from the House of Representa­ passed a resolution in April 1949, calling at· formula, included it in legislation he has tention to the fact that the Fort Des Moines proposed for the transfer of surplus tives contains the Morse formula, I shall property was originally given to the Federal property to some local government unit object, without exception, . to the con­ Government by the State of Iowa for use as a ip. his State. That formula has been ap­ sideration of such bills during the call­ cavalry post, that the purpose oLsaid grant plied consistently by the junior Senator ing of the unanimous-consent calendar, has been abrogated, and requested the return from Oregon and, may I say, not without because I do not intend to be euchred of the property to the State in order that it some considerable pressure being or juggled or jockeyed out of the appli· could be used to full advantage for public cation, without exception, of this for­ purposes. As ranking minority member of brought to bear upon him time and time the Committee on Public Works, I feel that again by some Senator or Senators who mula, insofar as my rights in connection this request of the State is fair and reason· wanted him to make an exception to the with the unanimous-consent calendar able, and I think that the committee has rule. are concerned. done a good job in arriving at the arrange• However, there developed more or less If I am going to have to resort to ments proposed in the conference report. of an understanding among us that the strategy in order to apply the Morse On the basis of conditions as they existed junior Senator from Oregon would fight formula, I now serve notice that, come before the Korean situation developed, I feel this battle on the floor of the Senate, and the next session of Congress, either that that the return of this property to the State formula will be contained in every meas­ was not only fair and just, but that under he has fought it for approximately 3 Yz the peculiar circumstances attaching to it, years now. Irrespective of the personal ure of this sort when it comes to the Sen­ there was a moral obligation to so return the reference, I shall let the record speak ate from the House of Representatives, property. On the basis of conditions as they for itself, Mr. President. and shall also be in it when it is adopt­ exist today, I think that we still have this A compilation is being prepared as to ed or passed by the Senate, or that meas­ moral obligation to carry out, provided it how much money the formula has saved ure will never get through the Senate does not interfere with our national mili· the taxpayers of the United States and it during the consideration of the unani· tary requirements. As far as I can find out, mous-consent calendar. our military authorities have no intention will show that the junior Senator from whatsoever of using this property again. A Oregon, in his fight for the application Mr. President, in my judgment the bill check with the Army just the other day re· of the Morse formula in connection with now before us reeks with Iowa politics. vealed that they do not intend to reactivate the disposal of surplus property, has The Senator from Iowa has consistently this installation and they still stand by their saved several hundred millions of dollars fought for this bill. Until just a few original recommendation approving the re. for the taxpayers of the United States. days ago he was not willing to consider turn of the property to the State. However, Mr. President, I hear a great deal of any modification at all in respect to the in case they should change their minds, we bill, in relation to the Morse formula. have covered that contingency clearly and talk about economy. I wish to say that expressly in the amendment agreed upon by this particular formula is one example I think it should not pass unnoted that the conferees. The return of the property is of how real economy has been brought the Representative from Des Moines, purely discretionary on the part of the about. Believe me, it was needed, be­ Iowa, the locality which will receive the United States and can be withheld so long cause, without personal reference, I now benefit coming from this bill, was one as they see fit, until they are sure beyond any state that as recently a.s 3 % years ago of the conferees on the bill. I have no shadow of a doubt that they will not need it there were too many Members of the doubt that a bill such as this one will be for military purposes. In addition, we have Congress who were making a political appealing to the voters in that locality· also provided that if the property is returned but I wish to say that. as a Member of t~ the State and if subsequently it should be grab bag out of the reservoirs of sur­ needed for military purposes, it will then re. plus property belonging to the Govern­ this body, I propose to do what I can to vert back to the United States; and the Fed· ment of the United States. I wish to say protect the financial interest of all the eral Government is therefore guaranteed any that it is my opinion that in some in­ taxpayers of the United States. I be­ military use that may develop in the future stances it was shameful that an attempt lieve that the people of Des Moines, Iowa, for this property. would be made to get for nothing for a ought also be required to pay, under the Mr. MORSE. I shall take some of the city or county or a State, very valuable Morse formula, 50 .Percent of the ap­ time of the Senate to review the policy pieces of surplus property, by means of praised fair market value of thfs of our Government in the disposal of the introduction of bills and subsequent property. surplus property, in relation to what I Jog-rolling or steam-rolling of those Mr. GILLETTE. Mr. President, will believe to be this most unfortunate re· grab-bag bills thrcugh the Congress of the Senator yield? port by the conferees. the United States. The situation had The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Mc­ Mr. President, some 3 ¥2 years ago the become so serious, so far as the disposal CLELLAN in the chair). Does the Sen­ Armed Services Committee of the of military property was concerned, that ator from Oregon yield to the Senato1· Senate appointed a subcommittee to those of us on the Armed Services Com­ from Iowa? go into the whole question of the dis­ mittee felt that something should be Mr. MORSE. I yield. posal of surplus property, particularly done about it. The Byrd report recom­ Mr. GILLETTE. Mr. President, just a that property which related to the mili­ mending the Morse formula was adopt­ few moments ago the· Senator from tary. That subcommittee consisted of ed. unanimously by the Armed Services Oregon referred to the Senator from Iowa,, without designating which the Senator from Virginia [Mr. BYRD] Committee. We have consistently ap­ as chairman, the Senator from Massa... plied it with respect to -military prop­ Senator. chusetts [Mr. SALTONSTALL]. and the erty. I took the position that it was not Mr. MORSE. I refer to the senior junior Senator from Oregon. After very fair or equitable or right to apply it to Senator from Iowa. careful consideration the committee military property, and then let Senators Mr. GILLETTE. I thank the Senator. came forward with a formula for the and Representatives, in respect to other Mr. MORSE. Mr. President, a very charges to be made for surPlus property pieces of property within the jurisdic­ important subcommittee of the Senate which has since become known as the tion of other committees come to the Armed Services Committee has been ap­ fioor of their respective Houses and se".' pointed . . That subcommittee is known Morse formula. It is a formula which cure the passage of special legislation as the Military Preparedness Subcom­ provides that when Federal property is for the benefit of themselves or their mittee, and sometimes is referred to as to be disposed of for a public use, to some States, in the case of such property. It the "military watchdog committee." substantial local government unit, State has not been at all easy, nor has it been Personally, speaking only for myself, I or county or municipal or other govern­ pleasant, either, Mr. President, to take think the subcommittee should be re­ mental unit, that local government body the position that the junior Senator ferred to as the "Johnson watchdog com­ shall pay 50 percent of the fair appraised from Oregon has taken for 3 % years in mittee," just as the old war investigating market value of the property. Where regard to applying this formula. committee in World War II was referred the property is to be used for nonpublic - This is the first instance within my to as the "Truman committee," because use thP- charge shall be 100 percent of knowledge that a conference committee this subcommittee is the successor of the value of the property. It has taken has npt stood adamant on the Morse the Truman committee. Its chair­ some time, Mr. President, to get that formula, without change. Let- me tell man is the very able junior Senator from principle rather thoroughly established the Senate that the 'conduct of the con~ Texas [Mr: Jo:nNsoNJ. This subcom- 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-·SENATE 15015 mittee haE: been busily engaged in a pre- Under examination before the com­ military for the retention of some addi­ liminary investigation of the surplus mittee, the Secretary of the Army testi­ tional buildings in Fort Des Moines property problem. We have issued one fied that if we have to proceed with the shows, of course, that the military estab­ report. I believe other reports on this ·increase of our military manpower, as lishment is already somewhat concerned subject matter will follow it. That re- · in all probability we shall have to do, about the shortage of military facilities port already has produced remarkable camps such as Fort Des Moines will be to meet existing military demands. The results in conection with the entire sur- sorely needed. Secretary of the Army assured me he plus property problem. The President of The Secretary of the Army also ·tes­ would give his personal attention to the the United States has issued instructions tified in regard to the military camp Fort Des Moines camp problem. calling for its recommendations to be put situation if we go forward with universal As I recently reported to the Senate, into effect. military training. The junior Senator when this matter was before the Senate, Speaking again for myself, and also from Oregon happens to be one of the this particular camp is now before the as a member of the subcommittee, I four members of the Armed Services Munitions Board for screening, because wish to say today, on the floor of the Committee of the Senate who voted the Munitions Board has been apprised Senate, that in my judgment the United against any postponement of universal of the seriousness of the camp shortage States would be better prepared for the military training. I think it is most un­ which faces this country. Recently the great crisis now confronting us if so fortunate that we did not proceed to Chairman of the Senate Preparedness many mistakes in judgment had not been provide for the giving of that basic Committee, the Senator from Texas [Mr. · made in connection with the disposal of training to all the young men in the JOHNSON], over his signature sent a let­ surplus property since World War II. United States. That basic training is ter to the military establishment raising Since the end of that war, we have needed not only for military purposes certain questions in regard to available disposed of millions upon millions of but also for civilian-defense purposes, military encampments which have pre­ dollars' worth of surplus property which because if we get into a war with Russia viously been declared surplus, and asking should not have been disposed of. As was or with a combination of her satellites, the military establishment to advise the brought out recently in connection with or with both, we shall need to have every committee as to any plan the military the examination of one witness before young man in this country trained in is considering in regard to those par­ our subcommittee-- the basic military training which would ticular camps. It is the intention-and Mr. DOUGLAS. Mr. President, will go along with universal military train- the chairman of the committee is on the the Senator yield for a question? ing. Also, Mr. President, we need to floor, and if I do not speak accurately, Mr. MORSE. I yield. keep in mind the fact that our present on this point, now, I want him to correct Mr. DOUGLAS. Does the situation in Selective Service Act would be operating me-it is my understanding that it is respect to surplus property following more democratically than it is now oper­ the intention of our subcommittee, World War II remind the distinguished ating if we had universal military train­ through its special staff, to make a thor­ Senator from Oregon of the phrase- ing. That is no criticism of the great ough investigation into all the available Where the carcasses lie, there the vultures director of the Selective Service Act, camp sites which the Government still love to feed. General Hershey, either. has within its possession by title. Mr. MORSE. That is a very apt de- But General Hershey does testify be- Thus I say that this is not a good time scription of what happened, Mr. Presi- fore the Armed Services Committee that, to be giving encouragement to the dis­ dent. for some reason, the number of dis- posal of Fort Des Moines. It is a most One witness before our committee, Mr. qualifications in the present operation of unfortunate time in my judgment to President, even went so far in his testi- the Selective Service Act is extremely sanction disposing of it on the recom­ mony, in answer to questions put to him high-in some regions and localities, as mendations of the conference commit- • by the junior senator from Oregon, as high as 70 percent. I am satisfied that tee, to which I shall direct my attention k ft that would not be true if our young men to point out that at the outbrea 0 he of draft age had the basic training of a in a moment. Korean war, there were a considerable But the first and main point that I number of Sherman tanks in the Philip- UMT program. If they had that basic have sought to make-and I now sum­ pine Islands, Sherman tanks in perfectly training then, Mr. President, you would marize it, Mr. President-is that we are good operating conditions, except for the know what their special capabilities dealing here in this report with a policy fact that their armament had been re- were, you would know where they could of the Senate which has become pretty moved. Otherwise, they were in good fit into the operation of the Selective well crystalized and established in recent fighting condition, some of them practi- Service Act, and we would not have to years, in regard to the disposal of sur­ cally new tanks, which could have been be eliminating them on any of the many plus property. A good many Members moved quickly into Korea if they had grounds on which they are. presently be­ of this body have cooperated in good not been sold into private ownership as ing eliminated. faith with the Morse formula. As I said surplus property. I cite that as only In fact, Mr. President, I think the sit­ recently, many of them have said to me, one of s·cores of examples which could uation is so very serious that all young "Well, of course, I should like to get this be cited here this afternoon in regard to men, even including those with some particular piece of property for a city the mismangement of the entire surplus physical handicaps, but not handicaps in my State, or for a county, or for the property matter. so great that they cannot be trained to State itself, without charge, but if you A few days ago at a public hearing, take some very important part in the will be consistent and insist upon an the now Secretary of the Army, Mr. Pace, operation of our military establishment, application uniformly of the Morse was before the committee. Questions · in the event of a crisis, ought to receive formula I cannot object to the sound­ were put to him in regard to the so- UMT training. If that is done, we are ness of the principle for which you are called surplus military camps. Let us going to need not only all the camps standing, and I will go along." keep in mind the fact that Fort Des which are presently available, but also Moines is a camp which has not been many other camps. We are going to I do not mean there has been unanim­ cannibalized. Fort Des Moines is an ex- need to reactivate some of the camps ity of view. There are still some other ceedingly valuable military camp which which we have already allowed to slip cases pending before this body, almost could be put into operation and readi- through our fingers in surplus property identical with the Fort Des Moines sit­ ness in a matter of a few hours. Fort disposals. We are going to have to ex­ uation in which the sponsors of those Des Moines is one of the few remain- ercise our rights under the recapture pieces of legislation have not been will­ ing surplus military encampments in the clause which was retained in those rel­ ing to accede to the formula. I think United States which thus far have not atively few instances in which recapture this conference report is going to give been seized upon by the politicians, by clauses were retained. And so, in ques­ them great encouragement. I shall not means of various bills providing for the tioning the Secretary of the Army re­ be at all surprised now to see a new on­ disposal of surplus property. Fort Des cently I asked him whether he would give rush of bills coming before the Senate Moines, in the opinion of the junior his personal attention to this particular for the disposal of surplus property, not Senator from Oregon, is a very valuable camp of Fort Des Moines because we had only camps, but also other pieces of sur­ piece of military property, the disposal on file a letter from his predecessor plus property, now that this exception of which, particularly by means of this which did ask for certain additional ex­ represents a break through the barrier conference report, should not be sane- emptions or exceptions to certain build­ which some of us have tried to hold firm tioned. ings in that- camp. The request of the for some 3 % years. 15016 CONGRESSIONAL HECORD-SENATB SEPTEMBER 18 . Mr. GILLETTE. Mr. President, will the Morse formula in respect to any bill. when we gave· them the 50 percent allow­ the Senator yield for a question? The Senator from Oregon intends to ance. Mr. MORSE. · I yield. discuss the unwisdom of that procedure. Mr. President, this ts also a case in Mr. GILLETTE. I have been listen.. Let us go now to the conference re .. which no reservation was made in the ing to the Senator with tremendous in .. port itself. It has modified the formula; original grant. When reservations have terest, of course, because this particular which has been applied in a great many been made we have given credit for those piece of property is located in the State other cases, by seeking to give to the reservations, and the Senator from Ken­ which I have the honor to represent, in people of Des Moines, or the people of tucky, who is a member of the confer­ part at least. The Senator has referred Iowa, the credit for some $64,000 which ence committee, knows whereof I speak. to the Morse formula from time to time they paid for a piece of land back in Only recently he had a bill before the as something which had its inception 1901 and which they donated to the Senate involving the transfer back to about 3% years ago, at a time when, Federal Government for a camp site. It the State of Kentucky through the Uni­ through a chain of events-events over has been pretty well established in our versity of Kentucky to 4-H Club mem­ which the present junior Senator from application of this formula that the fact bers of a piece of Kentucky property Iowa had no control, he not having been that some county, State, or city, many which had been given to the Federal a Member of this body at the time. Does years ago, has given a piece of property Government with a specific reservation the Senator contend that' this formula, · to the Federal Government, creates no in it. ~twas given for the purpose of a however well conceived, however sound equity in that county, State, or· city to veterans' hospital, with the understand­ in principle, is binding-on the members get that property back for nothing, or ing that if it was not used for that pur­ of this conference committee? to get credit for what it paid for the · pose it would revert. The Senator from Mr. MORSE. Not at all. The ma .. property in the first instance-and why? Kentucky came to me and asked· me to jority of the Members of this body can Because we know that a gift of that type approve the transfer when the bill overthrow the Morse formula any time · brings to the locality in which the par­ reached the unanimous-consent calen­ they want to. But that is not going to ticular Federal operation is located great dar. I went into the matter. I went to stop the junior Senator from Oregon sources of revenue over the years. And, · Kentucky, not only for that purpose, but from making the best case for his for­ believe me, Mr. President, Fort Des for other purposes. While there I con­ mula that he can, and it is not going Moines, operating outside Des Moines, ducted an investigation into the matter. to stop him in the future from being Iowa, has been a source of tremendous I met with certain gentlemen whom both much more careful in regard to enter­ income to the citizens of Des Moines for Senators from Kentucky had asked me ing into any agreements concerning a good many years. I have the testi­ to meet. We went into the basis of the amendments to bills on the consent cal­ mony of outstanding citizens of Des original grant, and I satisfied myself that .­ endar; that, I assure the Senator from Moines, themselves, to that effect. In the Morse formula did not apply to that Iowa. fact, the soundness of my position in piece of property, and I said so upon my Mr. GILLETTE. ·Mr. President, will this matter has been recognized in the return to the floor of the Senate and gave the Senator from Oregon yield for one communications I have received from my reasons in detail. When reserva­ further question? within the State of Iowa and from Des tions are made in original grants we have Mr. MORSE. I yield. Moines, Iowa, supporting the stand carried out the reservations. However, Mr. GILLETTE. Of course, I can which I have made on this matter. in this instance no reservation was made. recognize, as anyone can recognize, the Mr. President, I do not make the This was an out-and-out grant. The right of the Senator from Oregon to charges. I report what is in the corre­ principle of the Indian giver should not draw his own conclusions and to form spondence. In some cases they say, "Do be applied against the taxpayers of the ·his own judgments, which are almost what you can to block this steal." Mr. United States. universally sound. But I again would President, I have in the files a letter Mr. President, we can well imagine ask, is the Senator entirely within his from a very prominent attorney of Des what the reaction in Des Moines, Iowa, rights in criticizing other Members of Moines. It is of recent date. In it he would have been if there had been an at­ the Senate for not following the formula tells me that if the Federal Government tempt at any time when this fort was in to which he himself has subscribed? will put this property on the market it operation if it had been suggested that . Mr. MORSE. The Senator from Ore­ can get a very good price for it. This it should be transferred somewhere else. gon will reserve his right, within the 640 acres of land on the outskirts of Des We would have discovered how valuable rules of the ·Senate, to criticize other Moines is worth a lot of money. It be­ the fort operation was to the people of Members of the Senate whenever he longs tO all of our people. I say, why Des Moines. The cries from Des Moines thinks the criticism is due. The Sena.. should we authorize giving it to Iowa, if to block the transfer of Government ac­ tor from Oregon, I may assure the Sen­ it comes to pass that the property is not tivity at the fort would have been heard ator from Iowa, will be very careful to ·needed for Federal use. Right now I all the way to Washington, D. C. So I say stay within the rules of the Senate, but think it is clearly needed for Federal use. that giving them credit for the $64,000, I think he will be able to stay within the This property should not be transferred giving them credit for the water system rules of the Senate and yet make his to Iowa for the amount of compensation and sewage disposal system, giving them meaning very clear. called for by the conference report, credit for the other so-called equities in Mr. GILLETTE. Mr. President, I am when all the taxpayers of this country this conference report cannot be justi­ sure the Senator from Iowa did not in.. could receive 100 percent of the salable fied in the conference -report because tend to say, and did not attempt to say market value for the property. The we have in many other instances already . or to suggest that the Senator from Ore­ United States '.Treasury and not the taken that type of equity into account by gon did not have a right to criticize. selfish interests of the people of Iowa reducing the payment from 100 percent The only objection which the Senator should receive the value of this property. to 50 percent. from Iowa was making was with refer­ Next, Mr. President, in regard to tak.. I wish to say also that I appreciate the ence to the criticism of a· conference ing into account so-called equities as to fact that the members of the conference conµnittee for not following a program the public use to which the property is committee have retained that part of which does not have the force and effect to be put, the conferees contend that my amendment which strikes the words of law, but which is a matter of sound the value of sewage disposal provided by ''and directed" because even if the Presi­ judgment, perhaps, on the part of the Des Moines, the water system, the use of dent were to sign the bill, with those Senator from Oregon. the property for National Guard pur­ words out of the bill, future control of Again I ask the Senator this question: poses, and so forth, should be subtracted the property will still be vested and re­ He does not contend, does he, that the from the payments to the Federal Gov .. main within the Military Establishment formula to which he has referred has ernment. Not at all. That is the rea­ or those who have jurisdiction over it. the force and effect of law, and there­ son for the 50 percent of fair market The retention of that much of my fore is binding on any other Senator value formula. That is why it is not amendment at least leaves the military in the exercise of his sound judgment? 100 percent. We have taken that into under no obligation to dispose of the Mr. MORSE. The Senator from Ore .. account when we applied the 50 percent property, if the property is needed. gon has already answered the question, formula. We do not think they ought I can see some interesting questions and he assures the Senator from Iowa. to be given double credit for any equity which may arise as to whether after the that he recognizes that the Senate by a that they may have in such public use. present emergency or after world war III, majority vote can at any time overturn We already have given them that credit if it should come and result in successful 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 15017 conclusion so far as our country is con­ judgment of those charged with the de­ paid out-that is, the fair value-by way cerned, this bill will at that time create fense of our Nation. That amendment of additional construction. any vested rights in the State of Iowa. has been left in the bill by the confer­ It eeamed to the conference commit­ t' shall not curbstone on that legal ques­ ence committee. In other words, if this tee.... and I say this with great respect to · tion, Mr. President. However, I think in property is required at this time, or the Senator from Oregon, for whose view of the fact that the words "and di­ there is feeling on the part of those opinion I have great regard, and for rected" have been eliminated from the charged with our defense that it will be whose activity in this particular field I bill, it is still-and if I understand the required in the near future, all they have have particular respect, because I be­ Senator from Florida [Mr. HOLLAND], the to do is decline to act under this bill, lieve it has been of great advantage to chairman of the conference committee, which is permissive only. the people of the United States to apply he does not disagree on this point­ The second point I wish to make is in general the .so-called Morse formula within the right of the Military Estab­ that, at least in the humble judgment to surplus sales-I call this now to the lishment to refuse to transfer this prop­ of the junior Senator from Florida, the attention of the Senator from Oregon, erty to the State of Iowa at this time. formula adopted by the conference com­ that under his amendment this property, I am appreciative that one safeguard mit tee in this particular instance is much once sold, would have been completely provided for in my amendment has been more advantageous to the Federal Gov­ beyond reach of any restriction of the retained in .the bill. I am also apprecia­ ernment, in the event subsequent mili­ me, any restriction against alienation, tive that the particular buildings which tary use of this property may be required, any provision for recapture, much less were requested by the former Secretary in· the judgment of those charged with a provision for recapture at only the of the Arm.y, Mr. Gray, are exempted the responsibility for our defense, than price or the ve.lue of any additional con­ from this bill, in accordance with the was the so-called Morse rule as strictly struction from now on, and that the sale, part of my amendment which exempted applied under the amendment offered by under the amendment imposed on the them. the Senator from Oregon. bill on the motion of the Senator from Mr. President, I express great disap­ The Senator from Florida has already Oregon, would have simply been to the pointment and regret that the commit­ called the attention of Senators to the State for one-half of the price and the t ee has seen fit to break through the uni­ fact that the application of the amend­ State would have been free to make sub­ form application of a formula which has ment offered by the- Senator from Ore-· divisions out of it, to have made a fair­ received very widespread acceptance and gon, requiring payment of one-half of ground out of it, to have done anything it cooperation within the Senate in regard the appraised value of the property, saw fit, and to have made it impossible to other bills, so that what looked like made no provision for recapture. Like­ for the Defense Department to get the a fair pattern and rule to apply in these wise, th.ere was no provision in .the bill return of the property at a reasonable cases under the unanimous-consent requiring public use by the State of price. calendar must now be modified on the Iowa, and there was no provision in the The other suggestion just made by the part of the junfor Senator from Oregon, bill preventing the alienation of any part Senator from Oregon was, in the mind of at least as to the exercise of his rights of the property. the committee, even less in the interest. under the unanimous-consent calendar. Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, of the United States, that is, offering the In the future I shall do what I can to will the Senator yield? property for sale to the public at public prevent_ a situation arisine-, as it has Mr. HOLLAND. I yield. auction, or by taking competitive bids, arisen on the floor of the Senate this Mr. SALTONSTALL. I should like to because that would, of course, have afternoon through this conference re­ meant inescapably the use of the prop­ port. I shall object to the giving of con­ say, as one member of the subcommit­ tee who worked with the Senator from erty, which lies close to Des Moines-it sent in advance to the application of the Oregon in drawing up the formula, which is a square mile of property-for resi­ so-called Morse formula until the House the Senator from Oregon has been more dential subdivision and building, and in the first instance has already ac­ conscientious than I have in trying to would have placed it completely out of cepted it. reach of the Federal Government. Mr. HOLLAND. I appreciate greatly live up to, that we understood at that the concern of the Senator from Oregon time, or at least I understood, there would With much respect, speaking for the with reference to the application of the be e~ceptions to the rule and that there conferees, who were unanimous on this general rule· to which he has referred as would be other forms of compensation point, I reiterate that it was our judg­ the Morse rule..:...._and I think it is entitled as well. As I liste~d to the Senator ment that the application of the pro­ to be so named-but I want to say that from Florida present the conference re­ vision worked out in conference was I am in complete accord with his feeling port, it occurred to me that there were more salutary and much more useful to that the rule has been of great value to other.forms of compensation on this par­ the United States Government, .in the our Nation, and that in many .cases it ticular property which was one .of the long run, in this particulal;' case, than can be properly followed with good re­ difficult properties in connection with would have been the application of the sults to our Nation. I hope the distin­ this whole formula and what was done Morse rule. guished Senator from Oregon will give about it. The conferees do not want to be re­ ear to what I am saying, because I am Mr. HOLLAND. I thank the Senator garded as having by any means aban­ trying to pay him a deserved compli­ from Massachusetts. That was pre­ doned the Morse rule, or having felt that ment. I think he is entitled to be com­ cisely the judgment of the conferees, it should have been inapplicable in the plimented for having worked to bring who do not want to be, even by indirec­ ordinary case. The conferees recall that out this rule and for insisting that it be tion, chargeable with having put across there have been cases in the near past applied in many cases to the disposition or given their approval to anything that when the Senator from Oregon has him­ of military property declared to be sur­ might be regarded as a steal of the prop­ self risen on the Senate floor and assured plus. erty, who proceeded in good faith on this Senators those particular cases did not matter, and who think they did a better The sole reason for my rising to reply, come within the Morse rule, and that if however, is that I feel there is much job than was done in the bill with the Senate amendments. they did, it was quite right in those cases point to the statement made by the dis­ for the property to be disposed of with­ tinguished junior Senator from Iowa . Completing my report, I merely wish to call attention to the fact that with the out consideration because of some par.:. that it is always a question of discretion ticular equity. as to how the rule shall be interpreted second so-called Morse amendment in it, and whether the rule should be applied making effective the so-called Morse rule Therefore with all kindness, and hav­ at all in a particular case. Briefly, I of disposition, there was no recapture ing in mind entirely the desirability ~ of wish to invite the attention of the Sen­ clause; there was no provision for public preserving and safeguarding the Morse ate to several facts, most of which I use, limiting the use of the property by rule, it was the sincere judgment of the think have been recognized by the Sen- the State of Iowa to public use; there was conferees and it is now the sincere judg­ ator from Oregon. • no provision against alienation in par­ ment of the Senator from Florida that First, the House bill did not make the cels; there was no agreement that when­ ·the United .States is much better served disposition of this property discretion­ ever the United States Government under the provisions of the conference ary. The amendment of the Senator wants this property, in the opinion of report and the conference bill than it from' Oregon made it discretionary. The the defense officials, they can get it back would have been served with the two question of the disposal lies in the sound by paying anything the State of Iowa has Senate amendments in the bill. 15018 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18 Mr. MORSE. Mr. President, I wish to Florida has been very fair in his deal­ DEATH OF REV. DR. WILLIAM BARROW say that so far as the Senator from Flor­ ings with me on this issue. He and his PUGH ida and the members of the conference conferees have done what they think is Mr. MARTIN. Mr. President, on Wed­ committee are concerned, I think they fair in resolving this matter. . nesday afternoon there will be laid. to have very ably and fairly presented the They and I hold an honest difference rest in the chaplain's plot of Arlington difference of opinion they have with the of opinion with regard to the policy National Cemetery the mortal remains Senator from Oregon with respect to the which the conference committee is ap­ of Dr. William Barrow Pugh, a true sol­ bill. I respect them for their opinion. plying to this particular piece of prop­ dier of the cross, one of the ·great Chris­ They have not persuaded me at all as erty. tian leaders of the world, and an out­ to the merits of their position. When I have had my day in court, I standing American patriot. With regard to the first point the Sen­ have always demonstrated my willing­ Dr. Pugh served for 12 years as stated ator from Florida makes in reply, re­ ness to abide by the decision of the tri­ clerk of the general assembly of the specting the fact that the bill in its pres­ bunal which has jurisdiction over me, Presbyterian Church in the United ent form contains no language with any and I am ready for a vote. States. His tragic death last Thursday reservations in it with regard to public The PRESIDING OFFICER. The in an automobile accident in Wyoming use. I assure him that it has been our question is on agreeing to the conference deprived our Nation of a man whose observation, as a result of our study in report. whole career was dedicated to the service connection with similar legislation in the · The report was agreed to. of his God, his country, and his fellow­ I past, that most State laws, and am FIFTH SESSION OF THE UNITED NATIONS man. sure he would find it so ia the case of GENERAL ASSEMBLY Dr. Pugh's untimely end came as the State of Iowa, place very definite a Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, great shock to me because of the close ·limitations and restrictions on the State association it was my privilege to have itself with regard to the use to which tomorrow we shall witness the opening of the fifth session of the United Na­ had with him in church work and in property belonging to it can be put. I military service. think he will find that in most of these tions General Assembly. We look to its instances such reservations are not deliberations with prayers in our hearts During World War I he served in needed in the statute itself because the that out of those deliberations will come France as a chaplain of the Twenty­ decisions which will lead us to a more eighth Division, the famous iron division State's ownership of property is limited of the Pennsylvania National Guard, and to a public use. ~ peaceful world with greater mutual con­ However, I did not write this par­ fidence in and respect for one another. took part in three major offensives. ticular bill, and for a double safety pur­ The United Nations Assembly in the I know from personal experience of his pose I would agree with the Senator .original Charter was not given a place great influence in strengthening the sol­ from Florida that it would be well to of major importance. It has become of diers' morale and ministering to their have such reservations included as the great significance to peoples of the spiritual needs. · conference committee has put in it. world because of the failure of the After the war he was for 20 years That was their job, and to that part of Security Council to function. It has chaplain of the One Hundred and the report I do not object. proved to be not only a forum for dis­ Eleventh Infantry of the Pennsylvania As to the second position taken by cussion and suggestion~ but also a delib­ National Guard. the Senator from Florida, with regard erative body to which a troubled and In World War Il Dr. Pugh served as to his objection to following the course frightened world listens attentively. Chairman of the General Commission of action of getting a hundred cents on We give heed to the otherwise unen­ on Army and Navy Chaplains. In rec­ the dollar for commercial use if it should forceable decisions of the United Na­ ognition of his inspiring spiritual leader­ be decided that the property in fact is tions Assembly because we know they ship and brilliant administrative ability, surplus and is not needed I simply do are the product of a free and open de­ he was awarded the War Department not fallow him. If it should be decided bate by leading citizens of the nations of Medal of Merit. that the property should be disposed -of the world who want desperately to find Mr. President, I ask unanimous con­ for a non-Federal use, then I take the solutions to the problems that may sent to have printed at this point in the position that the State of Iowa either otherwise lead us all into world war III. RECORD as a part of my remarks an ought to pay a full 50 percent of its ap­ For these ·reasons we anticipate these editorial eulogizing Dr. Pugh, which ap­ praised fair market value on the finding coming sessions With hope and prayer peared in the Philadelphia Inquirer of that it is not needed for any Federal use. that those solutions may be forthcom­ Saturday, September 16. or the property should go on the com­ ing. There being no objection, the editorial mercial market at a hundred cents on The United States is represented by a was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, the dollar. I can assure the Senate that distinguished group of men and women. as follows: · full market value could be obtained for Some have been our worthy delegates at THE TRAGIC DEATH OF DR. PUGH this valuable property if it were put on other sessions. Others go for the first In the tragic death of Rev. Dr. William the market tomorrow. It would be found time. The United States Senate can well Barrow Pugh, killed in an automobile acci­ it would be gobbled up so fast by com­ be proud that Senators from Massachu­ dent in Wyoming, the Presbyterian Church mercial interests in Des Moines that setts and Alabama are chosen. Both are in the United States of America has lost there would be almost a gold-rush stam­ well informed and attentive students of a leader whose inspired infiuence has touched pede in the attempts to buy the property, international problems. We know that the minds and hearts of men in many parts So I repeat, if the property in fact is of the world. their words will be given respectful at­ The progress made by the church during not used for encampment purposes by tention and their votes will be carefully the. 12 years he served as stated clerk of the the Federal Government, then it is only considered. We commend again the fact General Assembly-the principal executive fair that the State of Iowa should pay that former Senator Austin has always office-is testimony enough to Dr. Pugh's ad­ a full 50 percent of the fair market value so ably led our delegation and that for­ ministrative ability. Even more impressive, of the property. If it is needed, then of mer Senator Cooper continues to play perhaps, were the spiritual qualities which course under no circumstances should the part that he has. Mrs. Roosevelt and he displayed .throughout his career, the em­ the property be transferred. the other ladies are fine advocates of how phasis which he constantly placed upon patriotism, the unbounded energy with The Senator from Florida has taken our free country improves and betters which he discharged his responsibilities. the steps necessary to give the Federal the way of life for its citizens. We can Dr. Pugh's counsel will be missed in many Government the discretion of not trans­ be sure our delegates will do their part phases of religious life. His interest in the ferring the property·, if it is needed, by. to make this session of the United Na­ spiritual welfare of . the Armed Fdt'ces, with adopting in the conference report the tions assembly fulfill the prayers of peo­ which he served overseas as a chaplain during amendment I put in the bill. ples of every race, creed, and color in the the First World War, and his untiring etforts I think it is good for the record that many countries, big and small, strong in behalf of ultimate church unity were but we have had this discussion this after­ and weak, youthful and aspiring, that two of the varied activities to which he un­ stintingl~ devoted his time and all of his noon. I fear that this will serve as a. are looking earnestly and hopefully to talents. precedent for a further breaking down it for judgments that will succor this The untimely death of this man woulcl of the Morse formula. However, I wish troubled world and lead it into paths of have been tragic under any circumstances. to say that I think . the Senator from greater peace and more happiness. It is made all the more so by the fact that 1950 CONGRESSIONAI.; RECORD-SENATE 15019. he died in an accident which, according to nating J.n all probability from the Bol· now on the calendar, providing for every report, might so rea,dily have been sheviks, and inflicted upon one of our statehood for the Territory of Alaska. averted. representatives. I thank the Senator from Nevada for DISCHARGE . OF FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION With the further indulgence of the · yielding to me. TO IRAN Senator from Nevada, I desire to read Mr. McFARLAND. Consideration of Mr. MALONE obtained the floor. , into the RECORD a brief paragraph from that bill is to follow consideration of the Mr. O'MAHONEY. Mr. President, will the volume entitled "One Hundred Red bill providing for a union shop for rail­ the Senator yield? Days," by Edgar Sisson. Mr. Sisson was road employees; is it? Mr. MALONE. I yield. ordered to go to Russia by President Mr. O'MAHONEY. Oh, yes. Mr. O'MAHONEY. Mr, President, I Woodrow Wilson, in October 1917, and Mr. O'MAHONEY subsequently said: have just been advised by the acting he wrote this brief account of what hap ... Mr. President, my purpose was to give majority leader that the so-called Iran.. pened during the 100 days when the Bol .. this public notice on the floor of the ian bill, H. R. 5731, which is the unfin­ sheviks destroyed democratic govern.. Senate, because I know that a majority ished business: will not be discussed this ment in Russia, and set up the dictator .. of the. Members of the Senate desire to evening but will be taken up when the ship which now is about to wreck the vote for statehood for Alaska and for Senate assembles tomorrow? Is that entire world. This is the language of statehood for Hawaii, and I believe it correct? Mr. Sisson, the special representative of would be a great mistake for the Senate Mr. McFARLAND. · That is correct, Woodrow Wilson in Russia, as published to adjourn or to take a recess without Mr. President. Quite a number of Sen­ by the Yale University Press in 1931: taking positive action on both those ators have asked that it go over until Intelligence channel, however, between measures. tomorrow morning. Russia and the United States was not closed. OUT-PATIENT TREATMENT OF SPANISH­ Robert Imbrie, sent by Ambassador Francis AMERICAN WAR VETERANS - AN­ The PRESIDING OFFICER prohibition would be made. When the the factors, the fact that they are trad­ THE WASHINGTON POST ARTICLE prohibition is made, unless that export­ ing as usual with these eastern countries I ask unanimous consent to have this ing country which is a recipient of ECA and Russia. He says that they-the 16 article appearing in the Washington aid or of any other fund or grant-and Marshall-plan countries-are now in Post of this morning entitled "Materials this amendment does not apply only to ·worse shape to fight than they were 3 Ban May Kill Aid, Hoffman Says," part ECA but to any other agency which lends years ago, in spite of all the Marshall­ of which was debated with the distin­ or grants funds-their economic and plan assistance we have been sending guished Senator from Nebraska included financial assistance is cut off until they them. Russia and the iron-curtain in the RECORD. justify what they are doing. There is countries are getting it on the first There being no objeCtion, the matter one further question I should like to ask. bounce. We merely send the materials was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, How silly is it for an official to say that and the machinery to the ECA nations, as follows: if a country made screwdrivers it would and they manufacture and process it and have to be taken off the list. Would jt ship it to the satellite countries. MATERIALS BAN MAY KILL Am, HOFFMAN SAYS not be a step in the right direction if Marshall-Plan Director Paul G. Hoffman MANUFACTURING-IN-TRANSIT ARRANGEMENT has warned Congress it may wreck the entire the Secretary of Defense were to make It is a manufacturing-in-transit ar­ foreign aid program if it bans shipment of a finding that none of these recipient rangement. So that is how we are fight­ so-called strategic materials to iron-curtain countries could export to Russia or a ing Russia and the iron-curtain coun­ countries, it was disclosed yesterday. · satellite country of Russia the same ma­ tries. I should like to know how one The Senate wrote the ban into an amend­ terials which the Secretary of Commerce is supposed to fight a war. If that is ment to the pending $17,000,000,000 defense prohibits from being exported from the the way it is done, by furnishing every­ appropriation bill. United States to those countries?. A high official of Hoffman's agency-the thing a potential enemy needs, it is a Economic Cooperation Administration-said Would that not be of some help? strange way, indeed, to fight a war. We Hoffman made his views known in a tough Mr. MALONE. I think it might be. are not only shipping them the material letter to Senate-House conferees who are Mr. WHERRY. Of course it would. they need, but we are shipping them the working on the bill's final draft. This official If we could get the Secretary of De­ material they need to help North Korea. added that foreign aid officials will appear fense to certify to the exports which the or any other area into which they may before a House committee today and open up the whole thing so the people can have Secretary of Commerce now prohibits to decide to send soldiers, and to arm those a look at it. · those countries we would gain a few steps soldiers. There is no question whatever House conferees rejected the amendment · along the right road. On the other hand but that much of the materiel which is Saturday after receipt of Hoffman's letter. we have this official-and, incidentally, processed and manufactured in the 16 The ECA otncials pointed to the language he declines to give his. name, although Marshall-plan countries with our assist­ barring aid to nations which not only send his interview was quoted in the press­ ance is sent through Hong Kong into arms but which ship articles which may be who says that because a screwdriver Communist China and has found its way used in·the manufacture of arms or military contains iron, it cannot be shipped. into North Korea, and there is no doubt materials. that equipment sent into Russia by the "If military material consisted of trucks, That is not in the amendment at all. tanks and locomotives," he said, "you'd have The amendment provides that if the 16 Marshall-plan countries has found its to take a complete inventory of Grneral Mo­ ·secretary of Defense makes a finding way directly into Korea and other stra­ tors Corp. and the Baldwin Locomotive that such exports are being used to tegic areas, or displaced other material Works and list everything, including screw manufacture arms, armament, or ma­ which is sent against our soldiers. drivers, hammers and saws that they use teriel, and if that materiel is being used WHO IS FIGHTING WHOM? there." · to prosecute the war, the Secretary of Mr. President, who is fighting whom? "The ECA would have no discretion. It Defense should be the first to prohibit would· have to cut off all aid to any country We give the 16 Marshall-plan countries that sent any item on that list behind the the country from getting that kind of everything they need to arm Russia, the iron curtain." material. Are we to do that kind of iron-curtain countries, and China. We He said the proviso would either stop al­ business with them? Are we to provide send our troops to Korea to beat back most all east-west trade in Europe, or end them such articles as sheet iron, for in­ the attack which was instigated by Rus­ United States Marshall-plan a.id. In either stance, from which bftrbed wire can be sia and armed with materials which we case, he added, the American people would made, and lead, which they in turn ex­ furnished ourselves. It is well known lose billions of dollars. port to Russia or satellite countries, and that while Hitler was building himself HOPE CONFEREES WILL APPROVE THE AMENDMENT then find that the material sent them is up in the late thirties many of these Mr. MALONE. Mr. President, I hope used to make weapons with which to kill European nations were trading with Ger­ that the conferees will keep the amend­ our boys? many, just as they are now trading with ment in the bill. I have tried to get :WHAT DO YOU DO IN A COLD WAR-ARM THE Russia and iron-curtain countries, until copies of the letters this morning which ENEMY? such time as Germany made up its mind had been written to the conferees by the Mr. MALONE. · I agree fully with to take possession of Europe, which President, by Secretary Acheson, by Mr. what the distinguished Senator from proved not very much of a job. Ger­ Pace, and by Mr. Hoffman. Nebraska has said. I do not believe he many could have been stopped at any V{e find we are unable to get the let­ goes far enough. Mr. President, we were time, as we could stop Russia and the ters. I will not say they refused to give supposed to be in a cold war with Russia. iron-curtain countries, by the simple ex­ us copies of the letters, but we are not It was said that we are in a cold war with pedient of not helping them to arm and able to contact the right people to get the the iron-curtain countries. If a cold to consolidate their gains. letters. It may be that there is some­ war consists of shipping every conceiv­ ARMING RUSSIA AS WE ARMED JAPAN IN 1936-41 thing behind that particular refusal. able piece of equipment which is needed Mr. President, I know of only,one way COMMUNISM MUST BE STOPPED BY THE WORK- for consolidating the gains of Russia, in to fight. If a man is going to fight any­ INGMEN, FARMERS, .VETERANS, AND SMALL'" the iron-curtain countries, and Red one he does not hand him his revolver BUSINESS MEN China, and in increasing production in or its counterpart before the fight starts. Mr. President, I have repeatedly said those countries, then I do not know the That is exactly what we are doing. We on the Senate fioor that if communism is . 'meaning of a c9ld war. Mr. President, are repeating the error we made in to be stopped it is going to be stopped by the 16 Marshall-plan countries go fur­ 1937, 1938, 1939, and 1940, when we fur-. the workingmen of America, by the ther than that. Ninety-six trade trea­ nished the materials to Japan with farmers, by the veterans, and the small­ ties give the iron-curtain countries and which to arm herself in the Second business men. The large business inter-. 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 15023 ests are profiting from this 18-year-old an exception, and I ask unanimous con­ the resignation of William W. Remington, emergency too much to take a very active sent to include in the RECORD at this another Commerce official under congres­ part in stopping anything. point the article appearing in the Even­ sional attack. Mr. Remington later resigned after being THE WAR PARTY ing Star today. indicted by a New York grand jury. But Mr. 1 We have lived on emergencies for 18 The PRESIDING OFFICER slavery in Africa. it before the committee. Shipments of the Senate then that the official was a Man­ As Secretary of Defense, MALONE asserted gas had been delayed under the direct churian-born Russian whose United States Gen. George C. Marshall won't be able to do citizenship was rejected three times. anything more than carry out orders of the supervision of Michael Lee, formerly The citizenship, Senator MALONE said, was State Department regarding the Far East, Lieberman, and these men were danger­ granted on the fourth attempt after Mr. Lee and called his (MALONE'S) vote in favor of ous security risks. changed his real name of Ephriam Zinovl Acheson's confirmation "one of my colossal I am happy to see that the Board has Liberman and had married an American. mistakes." changed its position and finally found A Senate Commerce subcommittee, headed MALONE said he believes Johnson was fired Mr. Lee unsuitable for the position he by Senator HUNT, Democrat, of Wyoming, because his views on the Far East differed has been holding. The article does say, conducted a preliminary inquiry and called with Acheson's and that Congress should Secretary Sawyer and other Commerce officials adjourn now because it ha£ delegated vir­ however, that if the Board is sustained to the Capitol to lay their findings before tually all its powers to the executive branch. by Mr. Sawyer, the case will be sent to them. · the President's Civil Service Loyalty Re­ LEE ASKED TO RESIGN Mr. MALONE. Mr. President, many view Board, headed by Seth W. Richard­ They were reported then as saying there times in the last 3 years I have tried to son, Washington lawyer. There seems would be a full-scale public investigation if make some sense out of the Marshal to be no record of this latter Board find .. Mr. Sawyer failed to remove Mr. Lee. Mr. plan, now known as the ECA, and several ing anyone guilty that the administra­ Sawyer acted quickly and called for Mr. Lee's times have suggested that as a condition tion approved of, but I hope this will b,e resignation. At the same time he asked for of giving money to any nation there be 15024 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENj\TE SEPTEMBER 18 certain conditions placed on furnishing and civic affairs-when it is suddenly Joe H. Caldwell, chairman, finance, Reno, . money, machines, and materials: First. discovered that subversive organizations, Nev.; Dr. Wesley W. Hall, chairman, healt h and safety, Reno, Nev.; Vernon Durkee, chair­ integrity of private investment, and sec ... · under cover of patriotic motives, have man, training, Reno, Nev.; E. D. Carville, ond, lending of money to private busi· operated to undermine the affairs of chairman, organization and extension , Reno, ness through the World Bank, under state; when it is suddenly realized that Nev.; Vail M. Pittman, honorary president, RFC rules and in no case furnishing such men as the Eislers and the Alger Carson City, Nev.; C. R. Hutchens, m ember, funds and materials to the Socialist gov .. Hisses were advisers in high places, even Westwood, Calif.; Eugene Aldrich, member, ernments of Europe merely to reelect to Presidents and to Secretaries of State Westwood, Calif.; Tom Oliver, m ember, West­ themselves. at Yalta, Potsdam, and Tehran, and that wood, Calif.; Harvey Flury, member, Winne­ The third point is the formation of a the international policies were fixed then mucca, Nev.; J. A. Anderson, member, Win­ United States of Europe. It is now said that may be in a large measure respon .. nemucca, Nev.; Howard Lindsey, member, Winnemucc~. Nev.; Eugene Wines, m ember, by many that the only way to protect sible for Korea-it is time to take stock, Elko, Nev.; George Plummer, member, Bishop, western Europe would be through a to reassess the real values. · Calif.; Arthur Hess, member, Bishop, Calif.; united e:fiort, for the nations there to DEDICATED TO LOYALTY TO COUNTRY AND FAMILY Alex Krater, member, Independence, Calif.; .pool their resources under a United Mr. President, when the Nation seems J. Price Ronnow, member, Fallon, Nev.; Paul States of Europe. Jensen, member, Fallon, Nev.; Dr. G. T. to be recovering from an epidemic of Woodward, member, Fallon, Nev.; William Mr. Acheson has said many times that leftist movements from the time when we will give further aid to Europe be·· B. Murphy, member, Susanville, Calif.; Dr. it was considered fashionable by many A. E. Priest, member, Susanville, Calif.; Al 'yond the ECA, and now we see that Mr. to sponsor such affairs it is comforting · Thomas, member, Herlong, Calif.; Kenneth '.Gray, one of his many assistants, has to know that there are certain organiza .. Jones, member, Carson City, Nev.; Milton B. :prepared a world-wide WPA which will tions dedicated to loyalty and truth, Badt, member, Carson City, Nev.; Leonard :take in all the world, so that we can go dedicated to good, old-fashioned patriot­ Wilson, member, Loyalton, Calif.; Louis De­ :into the Far East and support the em­ ism, dedicated to the defense of our Armond, member, Portola, Calif.; Louis :pire-minded nations in their ownership Nation and of the family. Richins, member, Portola, Calif.; Leslie M. and control of those areas and of course Fry, member, Reno, Nev.; Harold Bartlett, ·'go into Africa doing the same thing. PRIDE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT member, Reno, Nev.; E. M. Quilici, member, Many things, Mr. President, can and Reno, Nev.; L. B. Peterson, member, Love­ i It takes in the whole world, with the lock, Nev.; Dryl Gaiennie, member, Lovelock, ,united States :financing it. There is no do happen to a man over a span of 32 Nev.; Pat Patricio, member, Lovelock, Nev.; 'limit. . years since the close of World War I in J. Michaelson, member, Ruth, Nev.; Dale ! Fourth. We should have equal ac .. 1918, many things that he takes in stride Bell, member, Ely, Nev.; William B. Stoops, '. cess to the trade of the areas whose in­ at the time as a part of his regular chores member, Ely, Nev.; J. C. Kinnear, member, :tegrity we protect. That does not fit or civic duty, assume a much greater im­ McGill, Nev.; Hon. George W. Malone, hon~ . :into the plan of the empire-minded na­ portance in retrospect and in later years, orary board member, Washington, D. C.; Max ;tions throughout the Far East and and, Mr. President, my part in reorgan-. c. Fleischmann, honorary board member, izing the Boy Scouts, as president of the Glenbrook, Nev.; c. H. Jackson, Jr., honor­ !Africa. ary. board member, Tuscarora, Nev.; Bing , Mr. President, I have tried to deter· Nevada Area Council, in 1927 and 1928, Crosby, honorary board member, Elko, Nev.:. ·mine our foreign policy. What is our is a period which I look back upon with M. L. Armanko, member at large, Reno, Nev.; '. foreign policy? What are the areas­ great pride of accomplishment. William O. Bay, member at large, Reno, Nev.;.. 'naming the nations-which we must cur.. NEV ADA COUNCIL LARGEST SCOUT COUNCIL IN THE Dr . H. ·E. Belnap, member at large, Sparks, '.rently defend for our ultimate safety?, NATION Nev.; Dr. J. E. Culbert, member at large, Reno, Nev.; J. W. Despain, member at Right now, our distinguished general­ The Nevada area council extends large, Sparks, Nev.; Carl T. Friesen, member General MacArthur-in the Far East over 147,000 square miles-and is the at large, Reno, Nev.; Elmer Goudy, member seemingly has started an offensive and is largest of the 546 Scout councils in the at large, Chester, Calif.; Fred S. · Keiper, in a fair way to winning the war in Korea United States. member at large, Reno, Nev.; William Mayo, by the old method he used in the Pacific, The council has grown from approxi­ member at large, Reno, Nev.; H. A. Nielsen, of cutting off the forces of the enemy. mately 300 Boy Scouts in 1927 to over member at large, Reno, Nev.; Miles N. Pike, The President has never said where we member at large, Reno, Nev.; Lester D. Sum­ 5,000 members at this time. Mr. Ray merfield, member at large, Reno, Nev.; C. B. are going when we do start driving the Marks of Reno, special representative Wyckoff, member at large, Reno, Nev. North Koreans back; whether we are of the Southern Pacific Co. in Nevada, going to the thirty-eighth parallel and is the current president of the Nevada Mr. MALONE. Mr. President, I had leave a f.ew divisions there or go on into Area Council and has been since 1948. the pleasure of meeting several former North Korea, or go to Vladivostok, or He is doing the usual good job of direct­ members of the 1927 and 1928 Scout troops in Alaska and in the South Seas 1Moscow. ing its affairs. Mr. Alvin Grodrian is NAME THE AREA-THE NATIONS the present Scout executive and his spe. during World War II-I was very proud Let us name the areas and the nations cial ability is well recognized. Scores of them. whose integrity we must .currently pro­ of other outstanding men within the Their code as scouts simply assumed council boundaries are doing fine work that service to their country in time of tect for our own ultimate safety. emergency is the price of citizenshiP­ I Then let us build a national defense with the boys, and I ask unanimous con­ organization spearheaded by an Air sent that the list of their names become patriotism is a part of their being­ a part of my remarks. there can be no question of loyalty to the Corps and a submarine fieet that will country and to· the fiag. be final notice to the world and to our Mr. President, the list includes ap. proximately 200 business and political Mr~ President, the Nevada State Jour.. · own people that we can protect our nal of Reno, on Sunday, September 3, commitments. leaders of my State of Nevada, and I am very proud of the interest taken by 1950, contains a short history of the Ne­ THE MONROE DOCTRINE this group of prominent citizens in the vada Area Council and I ask unanimous That would simply be an extension Nevada Council of the Boy Scouts of consent to have it, together with the list of the Monroe Doctrine, and prepare us America. of the names of council officers, appear to do what we say we are going to do. · There being no objection, the list was in the RECORD at this point as a part of I suggested this procedure on March 4, ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as my remarks. 1948-I now reiterate it is time that a follows: There being no objection, the article definite foreign policy is established and EXECUTIVE BOARD OF NEVADA AREA COUNCIL, was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, the American people and the world in.. BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA . as follows: formed of what we are trying to do. Raymond E. Marks, president and national NEVADA'S SCOUT AREA COUNTRY'S LARGEST­ The Constitution of the United States representative-, Reno, Nev.; Walter Conrad, ANOTHER COMMUNITY CHEST AGENCY TELLS specifically charges the executive branch executive vice president, Reno, Nev.; C. V. WHY !T NEEDS SUPPORT of the Government with that responsi· Isbell, national representative, Reno, Nev.; EDITOR'S NoTE.-Following is the fourth in bility. Carl F. Johnson, national representative, a series of weekly articles pertaining to the Lake Tahoe, Nev.; Alvin Grodrian, secretary• agencies of Reno Community Chest. To­ BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA, NEVADA AREA COUNCIL, treasurer, Reno, Nev.; V,. 0. Welty, council RENO, NEV. day's article concerns the Nevada Area Coun­ commissioner, Reno, Nev.; Monty Boland, cil Boy Scouts of America, and more par­ Mr. President, during these days of chairman, advancement, Reno, Nev.; Clar­ ticularly the activities and projects of 1,253 , Communist infiltration into government ence Favre, chairman, camping, Reno, Nev.; Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts within the city 1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE- 15025 of Reno as well as the work of the area coun­ conform with school areas. Usually 8 to 10 CRUISE TO HAWAII cil office which is located in the State Build­ dens form a pack. , In addition to regular camps this year four ing at Powning Park.) Once a week the Cubs meet at the home Reno Scouts and one leader took a 17-day ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY-SEVEN THOUSAND of the den mother. To play? Yes, but also cruise to Hawaii aboard a United States Navy SQUARE MILES to learn, since the advancement program transport. A total of 20 out of the area. demands a knowledge of the flag, k:µowing council went on the junket, and through ar­ Encompassing 147,000 square miles of ter­ how to help out at home, learning to use ritory, the Nevada Area Council, Boy Scouts rangements made by the area council offices tools, collecting and preparing scrapbooks, here, cost per individual was only $45. There of America, with headquarters in Reno, is the use and knowledge of knots, safety, fam­ the largest geographic area covered by any was also a 1-week trip to Yosemite by char­ ily fun, know your neighborhood and a phys­ tered bus, a program in which 90 Reno Scouts of the 546 Scout councils in the continental ical program to keep strong and developing United States. participated. Forty-three Reno Scouts also feats of at hletic skill. attended the summer jamboree at Valley Service to such an area by a meager hand­ Boys of 8, 9, and 10 years of age are pur­ Forge, Pa., a trip that lasted from 18 to 21 ful of trained execut ives would be a near posely grouped in a den to teach the younger days. Some went by special train, others by impossibility were it not for the active in­ boys how to get along with older boys and, chartered bus. A 1-week outing at Camp terest of volunteers who recognize Cub and conversely, to teach the older boys how to Toiyabe on the Mount Rose Highway was Scout training as perhaps the leading force get along with their younger friends. Each part of the summer program in which 67 against juvenile delinquency, and this recog­ age group has certain standards for advance­ Reno Scouts participated. n ition h as been borne out over the years by ment in the Cubbing program, and beyond exhaustive record of law enforcement de­ Scouting, insofar as Reno itself is con­ this is an elective program which is com­ cerned, is supported by funds from commu­ part ments. For instance, never in the his­ parable to the merit badge program of Boy tory of Scouting in Reno proper, and that nity chest, and even though the Nevada Scouting. The Cub oath best tells its own area council includes all of Nevada, with d ates back to 1915, has a Reno Boy Scout story: "I promise to do my best to be square, the exception of Clark and Lincoln Counties, been sent to the State reformatory in Elko. do my duty to my country and to obey the as well as Sierra, Plumas, Alpine, Lassen, TWELVE-POINT LAW law of the pack." Inyo, and Mono Counties of California, each The pack meets once a month, usually in Reason for such an enviable record, especi­ of the other districts supports its share of a school auditorium or perhaps in a church Scouting. Reno has 25 percent of the regis­ ally in the last few years, can be found in the recreation hall. It is presided over by the fundamentals of living which are stressed by tered membership of the entire council, and Cubmaster. populationwise 34.6 percent of the area coun­ the 12-point Scout law: "A Scout is trust­ Evidence of interest in this younger phase worthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous. cil's population is centered here. Last year of the Scouting program, according to offi­ Reno's support of the movement was 21.5 kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, cials, is the fact that family crowds num­ and reverent." Application of this law to percent of the total funds, and the volunteer bering as high as 250 persons often gather officials of the Scouting movement are at­ daily living, and the training of youth to at a pack meeting of 60 Cubs. cooperate with family, schools, and com­ tempting to bring this figure to an exact The Cub program progresses through ranks 25 percent to be in conformance with the munity forms the basic foundation for the bobcat, wolf, bear, and lion to the "Webelos" success and growth of the world-wide move­ rest of the district. This is 1 of 15 reasons rank at age 10 7'2 . "Webelos" in Cubbing is why Reno Community Chest annually seeks ment. equivalent to the Eagle Scout rank in the Within the city limits of Reno today 1,253 to raise in 1 drive funds necessary for op­ older boys' program. Actually it is a con­ erating its 15 beneficiary agencies. boys and youths ranging in age from 8 to 20 traction meaning "We'll be loyal Scouts." years are actively engaged in the Cub Scout At age 11, Cubs are eligible for the Boy 35 YEARS OLD and Boy Scout program. Eleven years ago Scouts, and are usually presented by the Scouting dates back a good 35 ·years in that figure stood at 327, showing a four­ Cubmaster to the Scoutmaster of the troop the Reno area, with Rev. Brewster Adams fold increase during a decade that has seen to which they will belong. Scouting does not leading the ·organization movement in 1915. war and strife. So it can easily be seen that however bar boys who have not been Cubs, Many Reno residents will remember that Scouting does more than hold the line nor do Cubs have to progress through all Frank E. Morse, then employed by Reno against delinquency; it actually wages a win­ the ranks 'to become eligible for the Boy YMCA, also aided in the organization pro­ ning war against it by the simple means of Scouts. gram, and th,at present Senator GEORGE W. interesting youth in clean living and future Twelve Cub packs, numbering 600 boys, MALONE was the first president in 1927. Also, planning. are now active in Reno, and in Scouting it­ "Gene" Sweatt was the first Scoutmaster Ten years ago the entire area council had self, which takes in the ages of 11 to 13, there ever to ascend to the presidency. Mem­ 45 Scout units, consisting of Cub Pack, Scout are 17 troops in Reno numbering .500 boys. bership in those first few years fluctuated troops, and senior units. Today Washoe Scouting opens new fields for the former between 100 and 300, and it was not until County alone has 44 Scout units and within Cubs. Now their experience is broadened. 1937 that it took a major jump. Since that the city of Reno there are 34 active units. and as they progress through the ranks of time it has made exceptional strides. The entire membership in the area council scouting they have opportunity ·to ' learn National records, according to Al Grodrian, in 1939 stood 1,600 boys. Today it stands at skills and take up hobbies that may play an Scout executive, point to other advance­ the all-time high of 5,012, and 25 percent of important part in the life's work they choose. ments also; for instance, the fact that 10 that total is located right in Reno. Actually the merit-badge program is one of years ago 108 councils in the United States REASON FOR GROWTH vocat ional guidance in which many youths had a better record than Nevada. Today find they have talents never suspected which Nevada stands forty-seventh nationally, with Such rapid growth is the result of many a better record than 500 other councils. things, but it is primarily reflected in the may lead them later to successful profes­ sional or business careers. Most amazing, however, is the fact that planning and thinking of the Scout organi­ despite almost quadruple growth, individual zation which has actively awakened the in­ EXPLORERS annual cost has shown a real decline. In terest of adult leaders, especially parents. At 14, no matter what his rank, a Scout 1941 the cost of Scouting in Nevada area This was accomplished through the broaden­ automatically becomes an explorer, and is council was $14.41 per member. Today that ing of the Scouting program to include Cub eligible for this category to the age of 17. figure is $10.95 per member. Scouting, which now opens the door to Here Scouting progresses into a higher level youngsters when they reach the age of 8, and and operates much as a service club in which through extension of interest on the other the members plan and handle their meet­ COUNCIL MEMB:ERS, NEVADA AREA COUNCIL, BOY end of the scale to include explorer units and ings, outline their projects, and cooperate SCOJJTS OF AMERICA rover groups. with other civic clubs. Fred Abbey, Susanville, Calif.; Eugene Al­ Where Scouting used to occupy interest of At the age of 17 youth may continue the drich, Westwood, Calif.; Harry S. Allen, Box boys between 12 and 14 years of age, it now program under the rover group, which ac­ 529, Reno, Nev.; J. A. Anderson, Winnemuc­ holds the active interest of boys from 8 to tually aids the programing and planning of ca, Nev.; M. L. Armanko, 152 North Virginia 19 and 20. Formerly a definite drop-off in in­ troops. In many instances youths going into Street, Reno, Nev.; Arthur Bachelor, Love­ terest was noticed shortly after a teen-ager the rover group has succeeded to Scout­ lock, Nev.; Milton B. Badt, Carson City, Nev.; had reached his fourteenth birthday, today master jobs and also on occasion into pro­ Harold Bartlett, 571 California Avenue, Reno, that big drop-off is not noted until a youth fessional Scouting. Nev.; William 0. Bay, 301 . Cheney Street, reaches his sixteenth birthday. All the varied programs covering an age Reno, Nev.; Dale Bell, Ely, Nev.; Frank E. How was the program successfully ex­ span of 12 years do not operate by them­ Bell, Ely, Nev.; Dr. H. E. Belnap, 346 Twelfth pan ded? It's a good question, and the an­ selves. Records are kept on each boy in the Street, Sparks, Nev.; John Block, Minden. swer shows how fundamentals can work suc­ program, and that's a major job in itself. Nev.; Monty Boland, 1611 Knox Avenue, Reno, cessfully in the broad scope of Scouting, Then there is the summer camp planning Nev.; A. N. Bradshaw, Tonopah, Nev.; A. G. and organization, arrangement of special Brietwieser, SusanvUle, Calif.; Dr. C. I. Bur­ CUB PROGRAM trips, boards of review, and courts of honor nett, Susanville, Calif.; Joe H. Caldwell, 252 The Cub program for 8-to-11-year-olds for merit-badge awards and rank advance­ West First Street, Reno, Nev.; F. J. Calhoun. starts in the home and is supervised by ment, and of course the annual day in the 1914 I Street, Sparks, Nev.; E. D. Carville. mothers who volunteer as den mothers. spring when Nevada Scouts take over city. First National Bank Building, Reno, Nev.; Dens consist of anywhere from 6 to 8 boys county, and State offices. And Nevada is the E. P. Carville, First National Bank Building, ranging in age from 8 through 10, and the only State in the Union in which Scouts Reno, Nev.; Milson Clark, Star Route, Sll>:lan- · dens are geographically scattered to roughly take over th~ State offices, \rllle, ~alif.; William B. Coffey, Route 2, Box, 15026 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE SEPTEMBER 18

67, Reno, Nev.; Walter Conrad, 1431 Terrace Mr. MALONE. Mr. President, the Boy To be captains, United States Air Fore~ Drive, Reno, Nev.; John B. Cooper, 104 Maple, Scout oaths are the finest resolves that Ackerman, Clim:ird Bernard, 14479A. Reno, Nev.; Bing Crosby, Elko, Nev.; Thomas have ever come to my attention: Adams, John Hardin, 14487A. Crossen, 853 Pine Street, Elko, Nev.; Newton Addis, Darwin Romaine, 14502A. Crumley, Commercial Hotel, Elko, Nev.; Dr. BOY SCOUT OATH Allen, Kenneth Leon, 14495A. J.E. Culbert, Medico-Dental Building, Reno, On my honor I will do my ·lest to do my Allen, Robert Clyde, 14624A. Nev.; Louis DeArmand, Portola, Calif.; Philip duty to God and my country, and to obey the Anderson, John J ., 14475A. DeLongchamps, Yerington, Nev.; John De· Scout law; to help other people at all times; Ashton, Alfred Jackson, Jr .• 14661A. Spain, 61 B Street, Sparks, Nev.; Orval Dieter, to keep myself physically strong, mentally Atherton, Jack, 14525A. Box 706, Susanville, Calif.; Kenneth Doyle, awake, and morally straight. Bailey, William Alexander, 14582A. 704 Roop, Susanville, Calif.; Vernon Dur.kee, CUB SCOUT OATH Barclay, Charles Floyd, 14654A. 22;) West First Street, Reno, Nev.; Dan East­ Barr, Thomas Anthony, 14509A. man, Elko, Nev.; R. c. Ellis, Stockmen's Hotel, I (the boy's name) promise to do my Barrett, Francis Edward, 14613A. Elko, Nev.; John Emerson, United States Va­ best, to do my duty to God and my. country, Bathurst, Raymond Joseph, 14562A. nadium Corp., Bishop, Calif.; Donald, Erskine, to be square, and to obey the law of the pack. Blaha, Roy Charles, 14513A. Winnemucca, Nev.; Clarence Favre, 210 West Mr. President, I am still proud to be a Blanton, Curtis Elwood, 14669A. Second Street, Reno, Nev.; Max C. Fleisch· Bonitz, George Edward, 14593A. mann, Glenbrook, Nev.; Harvey Flury, Win· member of the Board of the Nevada Broughton, Richard Norton, 14570A. nemucca, Nev.; Carl T. Friesen, First Na­ Area Council, and the Boy. Scout pro­ Brower, Charles Ford 3d, 14545A. tional Bank Building, Reno, Nev.; Leslie M. gram is worthy of the attention of every Browne, Donald Vincent, 14604A. Fry, 139 North Virginia Street, Reno, Nev.; citizen of this Nation-let each man and Bryant, J ames Arnold, 14585A. Daryl Gaiennie, Box 540, Lovelock, Nev.; woman look around them right in their XBuckingham, Kent Oakley, 14533A. George Gerbig, Chester, Calif.; H. J. Gilliam, own community-the work is done so Buerger, Delbert Eugene, 14678A. Shos..11.one, Calif.; Elmer Goudy, Chester, Button, Louis Hamilton, 14671A. Calif.; A. W. Greeley, Susanville, Calif. quietly that it may be it has escaped Calkins, Radford Chamberlin, 14640A. Floyd Grieve, Box 38-1, Hawthorne, Nev.: their notice-and contribute something Campbell, David Day, 14663A. Judge C. J. Guild, Carson City, Nev.; Dr. W. to it, either work or funds or both-and Campbell, Earl James, 14596A. W. Hall, 307 West Sixth Street, Reno, Nev.; you will experience a satisfaction that Carter, Wilbur Denver, 14531A. E. Arnold Hanson, Carson City, Nev.; Earl rarely comes to us in this hurried world. Cartwright, Richard Harold, Jr., 14508A, Hendersrnn, Route 1, Box 165, Reno, Nev.; Cassady, Richard Harold, 14664A. Arth 1.r Hess, Bishop, Calif.; Paul Hett, Sr., Box Remember these boys are the men who Caulfield, John Gregory, 14528A. 286, Ruth, Nev.; Evert Humphrey, Box 216, will be doing your fighting in future Chenault, Charles Joseph, 14665A. Portola, Calif.; C.R. Hutchens, Box 661, West­ emergencies, that will soon be holding Childress, Rollin Dudley, 14580A. wood, Calif.; C. V. Isbell, 1385 Lander Street, your public offices, and who will be run­ Christensen, Douglas Helmer, 14672A. Reno, Nev.; C. H. Jackson. Jr., Tm:carora, ning the business of the Nation within a. Cabery, Francis Foster, 14494A. Nev.; Carl F. Johnson, Zephyr Cove. Lake X Cochrane, Robert Gardner, 14614A. Tahoe, Nev.; Kenneth Jones, Carson City. few short years. Coleman, Patrick Edward, ·14558A. Nev.; W.R. Keegan, Box 808. Ely, Nev.; Fred Mr. President, every day the news dis­ Collette, Robert William, 14612A. S. Kieper, 630 Sunset Drive, Reno, Nev.; Alex patches carry reports of all manner of Cook, Walter Edward, 14627A. Krater, Independence, CaliL; Grover Krick, crimes, mostly the result of warped X Coon, Robert Erwin, 14586A. Minden, Nev.; R. A. Lewek, Box 781, Herlong, minds, breaking under the strain and Cordes, Harry Nation, 14659A. Ca.lif.; John C. Lewis, 1112 West First Street, pressure of everyday life. Craft, Jacob Frederick, 14584A. Reno, Nev.; Howard Lindsay, Winnemucca, Cross, Richard Grenville, Jr .• 14492A. Nev.; George W. Malone. Washington, D. C.; The Boy Scouts of America form a Crowe, Donald Allen, 14666A. Raymond E. Marks, 43 Sierra Street, Reno, bulwark of character building. The or­ Cummings, Robert Donavan, 14625A. Nev.; Dino Martim, 259 Arroyo Street, Reno, ganization provides a background of in­ Cunningham, Bruce, 14630A. Nev.; William Mayo, 745~ West Fifth Street, tegrity and truth which is an invaluable Cutler, William Morton, 14481A. Reno, Nev.; E. L. Menu. 3001 Arlington Ave­ XDavis, Beverly Early, Jr., 14529A. nue, Reno, Nev.; J. Michaelson, Ruth. Nev.; asset to the man in the highly competi­ Davis, James Alford, 14471A. Coy Munson, Box 678, McGill, Nev.; William tive business life of the Nation and Deane, William Wallace, 14551A. B. Murphy, Susanville, Calif.; Ed McAmoil, guides him in the loyalty and ethics of Deel, Ollie Ivan, 14608A. 1410 Forest Street, Reno, Nev.; Donald Mc­ serving his Government. DeFoe, Donald Ross, 14575A. Cafferty, 934 Vine Street, Reno, Nev.; Del DeMott, Donald Ellsworth, 14598A. Mccuistion, 795 Seventh Street, Reno, Nev.: RECESS Dougherty, John Edson, 14578A. Harold McKenna, 518 South Virginia Street, Mr. McFARLAND. I move that the Dunaway, Kennieth Donald, 14478A. Reno, Nev.; H. L. McMurphy, Susanville, Dunn, John Henry, 14656A. Senate stand in recess until 12 o'clock X Eaglen, James Albert, 14601A. Calif.; Dan Nelson, Lone Pine, Calif.; R. B. noon tomorrow. Nichols, Independence, Calif.; H. A. Nielson, Engelbreit, Joseph Carroll, 14569A. 1104 Forest Street, Reno, Nev.; A. M. Nicko· The motion was agreed to; and

Bertha E. Evans, AN804108. Robert G. Hawk Edward · L~ Perkins tation, conversion, and joint utilization of Elizabeth M. Kennedy, AN792228. Robert Y. Henslee · James W. Petrie facilities necessary for the administration Doris M. Kessler, AN762740. Robert O. Holaway Jay D. Pinson and training of units of the Reserve com­ Kathryn M. Mauel, AN795326. Howard P. Hollinger Paul C. Plastino ponent$ of the Armed Forces of the United Elizabeth J. Wagner, AN792939 •. Donald W. Hollway Robert H. Rahiser States, and for other purposes; and The following-named persons for appoint­ Paul D. Hoover A. Albert Restum H. R . 9038. An act to authorize the Prest.:. ment in the United States Air Force in the Harold T. Jones Alvin J. Rose dent to determine the form of the n ational grade indicated, with dates of rank to be John P. Kidner Dan S. Shipley budget and of departmental estimates, to d etermined by the Secretary of the Air Force George J. Kovacich H.B. Sinquefield, Jr. modernize and simplify governmental ac­ under the provisions of section 102, Public Rufus H. Mahaffey, Jr. Kenneth R. Smith counting and auditing methods and pro- Law 36, Eightieth Congress (Army-Navy George D. Matthews Walter M. Snyder . cedures, and for other purposes. Nurses Act of 1947): R ichard E. Michaud Patrick R. Stevens On September 13, 1950: Edward P. Miles Homer W. Swenson H. R. 2233. An · act conferring jurisdicticn To be second lieutenants, United States Air Edward K. Mills, Jr. John B. Templeton u pon the United States District Court for Force (women's medical specialists) Donald M. Mixson William F. Waters the Territory of Hawaii to hear, determine, Betty L. Bales, AR2540. J ack C. Mullins John W. Wayne III and render judgment upon the claim of Ewa Jean M. Ertwine, AM2848. Ralbern H. iv.turray Plantation, a Hawaiian corporation. The following-named distinguished officer On September 18, 1950: candidates for appointment in tbe United H R. 9646. An act to authorize the Presi­ States Air Force in the grade indicated, with dent to appoint General of t he Army George dates of rank to be determined by the Secre­ HOUSE OF REPRESE~ TATIVES C. Marshall to the office of Secretary of tary of the Air Force under the provisions of Defense. section 506, Public Law 381, Eightieth Con­ MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 1950 MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE gress (Officer Personnel Act of 1947): To be second lieutenants A message from the Senate by Mr. The House met at 12 o'clock noon. Carrell, one of its clerks, annoupced that Robert D. Canfield, A0591058. Dr. Robert S. Cooper, pastor, East John F. Daley, Jr., A0591110. Washington Heights Baptist Church, the Senate had passed without amend­ Howard F. Day, A0591111. Washington, D. C., offerrd the following ment a bill and joint resolution of the Robert F. Dees, A0591112. prayer: · House of the following titles: Enos J. Dickson, A0591118. H. R. 9362. An act to provide for the ex­ Bernard V. Duclos, A0591126. Our Father, who art in Heaven, at the change of certain national park land situ­ Leonard C. Herr, A0591164. beginning of this day of business we ated in the District of Columbia for certain Robert E. Lee, A0591189. would bow before Thee. We would ac­ lands owned by the New Temple Committee, Thomas E. McNair, A0591202. knowledge our debt to Thee for all the Inc.; and Harry V. Montague, Jr., A0591214. blessings which Thou hast graciously H.J. Res. 536.· Joint resolution to provide Bill T. Moore, A0591216. for the reappointment of Harvey N. Davis Milfred F. Smith, A0591253. given our country. During the years of and Arthur H. Compton as members of the William F. Smith III, A0591256. its history, Thou hast given unto us both Board of Regents of the Smithsonian Insti­ Wallace K. Wrott, A0591290. material and physical blessings and the tution. The following-named distinguished officer richness of leadership to guide us candidate for appointment in the United through crisis after crisis. For all these The message also announced that the States Air Force in the grade indicated, with and the many other blessings we would Senate had passed a bill and concurrent date of rank to be determined by the Secre­ thank Thee. resolution of the following ·titles, in tary of the Air Force under the provisions of And now, O Father, would we bow in which the concurrence of the House is section 506, Public Law 381, Eightieth Con­ behalf of these men who gather here to requested: gress (Officer Personnel Act of 1947), and S. 4145. An act to assist the national de­ section 301, Public. Law 625, Eightieth con­ carry on the work. of our country. Let the fullness of Thy grace, peace, and wis­ fense by authorizing the provision of hous­ gress (Women's Armed Services Integration ing at reactivated military installations, and Act of 1948) : dom be with them from day to day. for other purposes; and To be second lieutenant Steer them in the right paths, guard S. Con. Res. 79. Concurrent resolution di· Frances W. Isbell, AL591227. them from the many pitfalls that con­ recting that there shall accompany every The following-named distinguished avia­ stantly beset those of positions of promi­ report of a committee of conference a state­ tion cadets for appointment in the United nence. Let them so be led of Thee that ment explaining the effect of the action States Air Force in the grade indicated, with through this emergency we shall speed­ agreed on by the committee. dates of rank to be determined by the ily come again to peace. In Jesus' name The message also announced that the S3cretary of the Air Force under the pro­ we pray. Amen. visions of section 506, Public Law 381, Eight­ Senate insists upon its amendments to ieth Congress ( Ofiicer Personnel Act of The Journal of the proceedings of ·Fri­ · the bill