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Monday Volume 650 3 December 2018 No. 216 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Monday 3 December 2018 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2018 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 507 3 DECEMBER 2018 508 set out the Government’s intention to have a statutory House of Commons duty on public bodies and agencies to work together on it. Monday 3 December 2018 Mark Pritchard (The Wrekin) (Con): On the wider issue of child grooming, does the Home Secretary agree The House met at half-past Two o’clock that the delays by Telford and Wrekin Council in setting up an independent inquiry into the child grooming that has gone on in that borough is completely unacceptable PRAYERS and that it needs to get on with it for the victims and the victims’ families? [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] Sajid Javid: I strongly agree with my hon. Friend. It is very unfortunate that the inquiry has been delayed; it is very important in the interests of justice and especially for those victims and their families, and I hope the Oral Answers to Questions council just gets on with it. Chris Elmore (Ogmore) (Lab): I know that the Home Secretary takes child grooming online extremely seriously. HOME DEPARTMENT I am sure he agrees, however, that there is a need to have better education for, and understanding among, young people so that they can see the signs and feel free to The Secretary of State was asked— report when they are uncomfortable and concerned about what is happening, particularly on social media Online Child Grooming platforms. Will the Secretary of State set out what more he can do to make sure young people have that 1. James Duddridge (Rochford and Southend East) understanding and feel free to report when they are (Con): What steps he is taking to tackle online child worried about what could be happening online? grooming. [907951] Sajid Javid: The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right The Secretary of State for the Home Department to raise that point, and the companies can do more to (Sajid Javid): Tacking online grooming is one of our help young people to help themselves when online. highest priorities. We are increasing our investment in When I was recently in the US, I met all the tech giants, law enforcement and legislating on online harms to bear and there are tools that they can roll out and they have down on the threat. In November, I also co-hosted a promised to do just that, but there is also a role for hackathon in the United States, where tech companies parents in helping their children to be much more aware developed an artificial intelligence product to detect online. online grooming, which will be sent out licence-free for all technology companies to use worldwide. Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con): What is the maximum penalty for online child grooming and how James Duddridge: I was particularly impressed by the many convictions have been secured? hackathon and the tools used. Will my right hon. Friend explain in more detail how what he saw in the US can be Sajid Javid: Sadly, the amount of abuse that we are used here in the United Kingdom? seeing is increasing year by year. There was a 23% increase in all child sex offences in the year to March 2018 and a Sajid Javid: I gladly will. The hackathon event that I 206% increase since 2013. The good news is that much attended in the US involved the giant tech companies more work and effort is going into this; each month that we all know of. They worked together to develop a there are around 400 arrests and 500 children safeguarded. new artificial intelligence product that will detect online grooming; that is the intention. The technology showed Nick Thomas-Symonds (Torfaen) (Lab): Tackling online the industry at its best and most creative, and it will help crime needs to be cross-border, yet the Government change people’s lives. have failed to get the Schengen information system, or SIS II, and the European Criminal Records Information Vicky Foxcroft (Lewisham, Deptford) (Lab): The Home System included in the political declaration. They have Secretary will be aware that next Thursday we have a also not identified exactly what our relationship with debate on the public health model to reduce youth Europol and Eurojust will be going forward, and we violence. A key aspect of the public health approach is have only vague promises on maintaining the benefits cross-departmental working, so will the Minister commit of the European arrest warrant. When will the Government to inviting other relevant Departments next week so act to stop this diminishing of our ability to tackle that they can listen, if not respond, to this important crime? debate? Sajid Javid: The hon. Gentleman will know from the Sajid Javid: The hon. Lady makes a good point about information we have already published that we have serious violence. It is important to look carefully at this reached a good agreement with Europe on future security public health approach, which is why I have talked of it co-operation, for example on passenger name records, at length in the last couple of months and have already DNA and other important databases. He mentioned 509 Oral Answers 3 DECEMBER 2018 Oral Answers 510 the SIS II database, and there is also the criminal but I certainly take on board the point that she has records database; we will continue to work together on made and I will be happy to discuss it with her personally. those issues, and I am sure we can reach an agreement. Louise Haigh (Sheffield, Heeley) (Lab): If the leaks Child Sexual Exploitation over the weekend are to be believed, the Government intend to deliver a real-terms cut in Government funding 2. Toby Perkins (Chesterfield) (Lab): What assessment to our overstretched police for the ninth year running. he has made of the adequacy of police resources to Does the Minister not agree that passing the buck to investigate historical cases of child sexual exploitation. local ratepayers is unfair to those forces that have cut [907952] the most and can raise the least and that it fundamentally fails to meet the demand from legacy and current child The Minister for Policing and the Fire Service (Mr Nick sexual exploitation and the enormous demand from Hurd): As the Home Secretary has made clear, tackling cyber-crime and soaring violent crime? the abhorrent crime of child sexual abuse is a priority for the Government, and this is reflected in the fact that Mr Hurd: The hon. Lady knows that I will not it is one of six national threats in the strategic policing comment on leaks, but I would simply point out that requirement. this Government took the steps that resulted in an increase of £460 million of public investment in our Toby Perkins: For victims of historical child sexual police system this year, in a settlement that she and her exploitation to come forward, they have to have confidence colleagues voted against. that their claims will be not only taken seriously but tackled with due urgency. A constituent of mine tells EU Settlement Scheme me that South Yorkshire police have recently merged their historical child sexual exploitation department 3. Stephen Kerr (Stirling) (Con): What support he is with their violent crime department. This means that providing to EU citizens applying to the EU settlement whenever a new violent crime comes in, victims of child scheme. [907953] sexual exploitation have to wait for their case to be dealt with. What can the Minister do to ensure that specialism 12. Antoinette Sandbach (Eddisbury) (Con): What and due urgency are brought to these cases? support he is providing to EU citizens applying to the EU settlement scheme. [907962] Mr Hurd: I accept the hon. Gentleman’s point that victims need to have confidence in the police system. The Minister for Immigration (Caroline Nokes): The That is why we have agreed to provide grants for specialist Home Office is putting in place a range of support for operations in a number of forces,including South Yorkshire EU citizens applying to the EU settlement scheme, police. Just as critically, we are investing in prevention particularly for those who are most vulnerable. This and technology to identify online abuse. includes assisted digital support for those unable to Michael Fabricant (Lichfield) (Con): The hon. Member make online applications, a new customer contact centre for Chesterfield (Toby Perkins) is absolutely right to and indirect support to be provided through organisations make that point, but is the Minister aware that the chief such as community groups and charities. constable of Staffordshire, Gareth Morgan, who chairs the committee of chief constables regarding this sort of Stephen Kerr: I am of course pleased that the Minister offence, has told me that there is a growing trend for has made clear the Government’scommitment to European people accused of such crimes subsequently to wrongly Union citizens living here, particularly because there accuse others of such a crime, so that that can be used are parties in this House who have spread fear and as mitigation? In other words, they are saying, “Don’t alarm among EU citizens by questioning the Government’s blame me. I’ve already been attacked in this way.” commitment to their status. Does the Minister agree that those Members who spread fear and alarm should Mr Hurd: I thank my hon.