Name Public / ACCESS Map Nearest Functionality Functionality POST IRENE (General Exact Location Address Ownership Private / Road Parking details Amenities Signage Notes (Potential or Condition? Label hamlet/Village (current) (potential) Notes Description) permit? Existing)? Upper East Branch Delaware (Grand Gorge to Lake Wawaka / Halcottsville Pond)
Catskill stream 59739 State Route 30, Revitalization Catskill Scenic walking/skiing/sno primarily h1 Headwaters1 N 42°21.3819’; W074°30.8822’ Roxbury, NY 12474 42.356612, -74.514850 Corp private Grand Gorge Route 30 unmaintained (5 cars) Trail CST-related stream access EXISTING wshoeing good un=affected
Catskill EB Delaware stream 59349 State Route 30, Revitalization Catskill Scenic headwaters; CST- walking/skiing/sno primarily h2 Headwaters2 N 42°21.2480’; W074°31.2575’ Roxbury, NY 12474 42.354193, -74.521066 Corp private Grand Gorge Route 30 unmaintained (5 cars) Trail related stream access EXISTING wshoeing good un=affected
no access permitted to stream 57792 New York 30 NYCDEP / Catskill Scenic DEP adjoining walking/skiing/sno primarily h3 Headwaters3 N 42°20.8592’; W074°32.1240’ Roxbury, NY 12474 42.347941, -74.535485 CRC? private Grand Gorge Route 30 unmaintained (3 cars) Trail DEP use regs lands POTENTIAL wshoeing good un=affected
permit stream access 278 Schuman Rd required Route 30 & downstream EXISTING primarily h4 Headwaters4 N 42°19.6546’; W074°33.1441’ Roxbury, NY 12474 42.327556, -74.552343 NYCDEP (fishing) Roxbury Schuman Rd unmaintained (5 cars) none DEP use regs ONLY (limited) fishing; access to CST good un=affected
Catskill Route 30 & Catskill Scenic stream 55024 New York 30 Revitalization Hardscrabble pulloff (unmaintained - Trail start walking/skiing/sno primarily h5 Headwaters5 N 42°18.1807’; W074°33.2842’ Roxbury, NY 12474 42.303078, -74.554465 Corp private Roxbury Rd 5 cars) none none (south) EXISTING wshoeing fishing poor un=affected
picnic tables, ballfields, limited access gazebos, to stream stream cartop boat 53837 New York 30 playground, Park Entrance; EPF other than on walking/skiing/sno launch; ADA primarily h6 Kirkside Park N 42°17.2963’; W074°33.7912’ Roxbury, NY 12474 42.288160, -74.563111 Roxbury public Roxbury Route 30 maintained (25+ cars) bathrooms sign bridges EXISTING wshoeing; fishing; fishing excellent un=affected
Briggs Road unmaintained pulloff (2 primarily h7 pulloff N 42°16.0821’; W074°34.9525’ Briggs Rd, Roxbury, NY 12474 42.268024, -74.582482 NYCDEP public Roxbury Briggs Road cars) none DEP use regs EXISTING fishing; poor un=affected
Lake is private; access only by permission; Lake Wawaka 506 Halcottsville Rd Halcottsville unmaintained pulloff (3 canoe/kayak boat launch; primarily h8 pulloff N 42°12.6405’; W074°35.8023’ Roxbury, NY 12474 42.210906, -74.595795 Kelly private Halcottsville Rd cars) none none rental POTENTIAL none fishing; good un=affected
TOTAL: Existing = 5; Exisiting (limited) = 1; Potential = 2
East Branch Delaware (Halcottsville to Pepacton Reservoir at Dunraven)
log road, EB Del access across RR tracks (steep); Morris Hill Unit; 875 County Road 38, Arkville, no direct hiking; hunting; m1 266 acres N 42°09.6660’; W074°37.1992’ NY 12406 42.161257, -74.620054 NYCDEP public (PAA) Arkville County Rte 38 (log road pull-in) none DEP use regs water access EXISTING trapping joining w/WDC poor n/a
boat launch; fishing; walking; education; wetlands and joining with Water great access Morris Hill; Site used as refuse 750 County Road 38, Arkville, Discovery across RR forthcoming area post-Irene; m2 WDC Parking N 42°09.5083’; W074°37.1807’ NY 12406 42.158389, -74.619616 Center Private Arkville County Rte 38 open field (20+ cars) none WDC sign tracks POTENTIAL none recreation center poor now restored Name Public / ACCESS Map Nearest Functionality Functionality POST IRENE (General Exact Location Address Ownership Private / Road Parking details Amenities Signage Notes (Potential or Condition? Label hamlet/Village (current) (potential) Notes Description) permit? Existing)? Town/State material Upper East Branch Delaware (Grand Gorge to Lake Wawaka / Halcottsvilledump/storage Pond) site? Steep access; PFR's more defined EB Del / Dry upstream on stream channel; Brook 43000 New York 30, both sides to EXISTING better access from m3 confluence N 42°09.2403’; W074°37.5285’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.154261, -74.625512 DOT public (PFRs) Margaretville Route 30 large pulloff (10+ cars) none no dumping Route 28 (limited) fishing; swimming education really poor Pavilion Rd swimming hole; guardrail EB Delaware 42850 New York 30, blocks easy EXISTING more defined m4 swimming hole N 42°09.1010’; W074°37.7881’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.151905, -74.629806 DOT public? Margaretville Route 30 roadside pulloff (8 cars) none none access (limited) swimming; fishing boat launch poor stream channel
pavilion; bbq; stream Margaretville picninc tables; streamside walking/skiing/sno torn up, but access Village Park 36-60 Bridge St, Margaretville, V of ballfield; trail in rough wshoeing; fishing; boat launch; remains; some m5 (pavilion) N 42°08.9050’; W074°38.6865’ NY 12455 42.148445, -74.644747 Margaretville public Margaretville Route 30 maintained (25+ cars) nature trail park entrance sign shape; EXISTING education education good debris
stream Margaretville fishing access; walking/skiing/sno Village Park 36-60 Bridge St, Margaretville, V of riaprian wshoeing; fishing; boat launch; "trail" washed m6 (upstream end) N 42°08.9167’; W074°38.5449’ NY 12455 42.148642, -74.642530 Margaretville public Margaretville Route 30 same as above none planting EXISTING education education good away basketball; benches; skateboarding fishing access ramps; ramp in rough Margaretville Route earthen Dry Brook Ridge shape; one Village Skate 65 Bridge St, Margaretville, NY V of 30/Bridge maintained/paved (25+ fishing access trailhead; Forest other stream boat launch; ADA m7 Park N 42°08.8389’; W074°38.9065’ 12455 42.147664, -74.648029 Margaretville public Margaretville Street cars) ramp Preserve kiosk access point EXISTING fishing; swimming fishing; poor site now barren short trail to bench, two access garbage can, points; stream Margaretville 127-131 Main St, V of trail, exercise connects to walking/skiing/sno LWD, bed material, m8 Riverwalk access N 42°08.7963’; W074°39.0677’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.146732, -74.651059 Margaretville public Margaretville Main Street Street parking equipment entrance sign Skate Park EXISTING wshoeing decent trash present area torn up; perhaps better Margaretville 510 Main St less than ideal EXISTING opportunity for m9 School Kiosk site N 42°08.7358’; W074°39.1392’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.145752, -74.652219 NYCDEP public Margaretville Main Street Street parking none Flood kiosk stream access (limited) education; fishing decent access now
NYCDEP Fishing Permit access below 1900 County Road 3, required unmaintained pulloff (5 fishing only; EXISTING m10 Margaretville N 42°07.8876’; W074°40.1421’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.131512, -74.669094 NYCDEP (fishing only) Margaretville County Rte 3 cars) none DEP use regs good access (limited) fishing boat launch decent un-affected
Permit DEP use regs; long walk to NYCDEP Fishing N 42°08.3993’; W074°39.3095’ 41050 New York 30 required unmaintained pull-in (5 Entering Pepacton stream; EXISTING stream walk access OK; LWD m11 access at WWTP Margaretville, NY 12455 42.139905, -74.655142 NYCDEP (fishing only) Margaretville Route 30/28 cars) none Reservoir fishing only (limited) fishing trailhead good present
DEP Fishing Permit popular for access at Stone 39999 New York 30 required historical; NYCDEP road biking EXISTING stream walk access OK; LWD m12 Schoolhouse N 42°07.3281’; W074°40.4874’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.122253, -74.674970 NYCDEP (fishing only) Dunraven Route 28/30 paved (8 cars) none use regs parking (limited) fishing trailhead excellent present
dangerous roadside parking; guardrail blocks access; EB Del access at Permit Entering Catskill both side of berm severely Catskill Park 38950 New York 30, required Park; East Branch bridge are EXISTING damaged, less m13 boundary N 42°07.3075’; W074°40.8381’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.121922, -74.681052 NYCDEP (fishing only) Margaretville Route 28/30 roadside pulloff none Delaware River accessible (limited) fishing poor accessible Not ideal for fishing; good for birding; ADA accessible; Cannonsville Dunraven Permit Kiosk; fishing Recreation Fishing Pier 38300 NY-30 required pier, saftey access sign boating info EXISTING m14 Northside N 42°07.5740’; W074°41.4274’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.126431, -74.690400 NYCDEP (fishing only) Dunraven Route 30/28 Maintained (5+ cars) fence, signage (westbound only) in kiosk (limited) fishing boat launch good Name Public / ACCESS Map Nearest Functionality Functionality POST IRENE (General Exact Location Address Ownership Private / Road Parking details Amenities Signage Notes (Potential or Condition? Label hamlet/Village (current) (potential) Notes Description) permit? Existing)? Not ideal for Dunraven Permit BWS Road fishing; good Fishing Pier __ B W S Rd No 10 Upper East Branch Delawarerequired (Grand Gorge8/NYCDEP to Lake Wawakapier, saftey / Halcottsville for birding; Pond) EXISTING m15 Southside N 42°07.3985’; W074°41.4608’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.123252, -74.690940 NYCDEP (fishing only) Dunraven Reservoir Rd Maintained (3 cars) fence, signage Kiosk present ADA (limited) fishing boat launch good
TOTAL: Existing = 5; Exisiting (limited) = 9; Potential = 1
Huckleberry Brook (Huckleberry Brook Rd)
Huckleberry N 42°06.5431’; W074°39.4975’ 750 Huckleberry Brook Spur Brook Unit; 101 Rd Huckleberry NYSDEC parking area adjoins Forest fishing; hiking; primarily hb1 acres Margaretville, NY 12455 42.114232, -74.662655 NYCDEP public (PAA) Margaretville Brook Rd (10 cars) none DEP use regs Preserve EXISTING hunting; trapping good unaffected
TOTAL: Existing = 1; Existing (limited) = 0; Potential = 0
Batavia Kill (Headwaters to East Branch Delaware at Kelly Corners) wetlands; horsebarn N 42°15.5362’; W074°31.3190’ and pasture Buffalo Hollow 50 George Lawrence Rd doughnut fishing; hiking; primarily btk1 Unit; 90 acres Margaretville, NY 12455 42.258961, -74.522032 NYCDEP public (PAA) Vega County Rte 36 maintained (5 cars) none DEP use regs hole EXISTING hunting; trapping good unaffected across from Batavia Kill at Highway Kelly Corners Garage; (addional flood N 42°10.8826’; W074°35.8490’ property on buyout property Katherine other side of on north side of 196 Co Rd 36 Stevens, and creek is even btk2 creek is better) Margaretville, NY 12455 42.180929, -74.596359 2 others…. private Kelly Corners County Rte 36 pulloff (8 cars) none posted signs better access POTENTIAL none fishing good minimally affected
TOTAL: Existing = 1; Exisiting (limited) = 0; Potential = 1
Emory Brook (Monka Hill to Vly Creek / Bush Kill) long walk to stream; TU Emory Brook N 42°09.6602’; W074°29.7205’ 218 Roaring Brook Ln Trout Roaring Brook unmaintained driveway narrow strip EXISTING primarily e1 Preserve Fleischmanns, NY 12430 42.158900, -74.496010 Unlimited quasi-public Fleischmanns Rd (2 cars) none none of land (limited) fishing n/a poor unaffected not great access to stream; N 42°09.0650’; W074°31.1577’ village water Fleischmanns 1670 Main St, Fleischmanns, unmaintained (10+ supply land fishing; primarily e2 East Entrance1 NY 12430 42.151082, -74.518977 DOT public Fleischmanns Main Street cars) none Village entrance potential? POTENTIAL none education poor unaffected not great fishing; Fleischmanns N 42°09.0799’; W074°31.1979’ 1586 Main St access to education; picnic primarily e3 East Entrance2 Fleischmanns, NY 12430 42.151329, -74.519867 Fleischmanns Public Fleischmanns Main Street Maintained (5+ cars) none Village Parking stream POTENTIAL none spot poor unaffected
TOTAL: Existing = 0; Exisiting (limited) = 1; Potential = 2
Bush Kill (Vly Creek& Emory Brook junction to Dry Brook at Arkville) Name Public / ACCESS Map Nearest Functionality Functionality POST IRENE (General Exact Location Address Ownership Private / Road Parking details Amenities Signage Notes (Potential or Condition? Label hamlet/Village (current) (potential) Notes Description) permit? Existing)?
picnic tables, Upper East Branch Delaware (Grand Gorge to Lake Wawakarope swing / Halcottsville Pond) (swimming), ball field, tennis, playground, limited but site totally Fleischmanns 347 Wagner Ave Wagner basketball, easy acccess destroyed; non- bk1 Village Park N 42°09.3906’; W074°32.0779’ Fleischmanns, NY 12430 42.155245, -74.533859 Fleischmanns Public Fleischmanns Avenue Maintained (25+ cars) bathrooms Park Entrance to stream EXISTING swimming; fishing; poor option until 2014 no direct stream access?; Slavin cememt…..?; permit pulloff just large gravel pile Covesville Unit; 544 Old Rte 28 required downstream… now blocks bk2 56 acres N 42°09.6026’; W074°33.4352’ Fleischmanns, NY 12430 42.160080, -74.557854 NYCDEP (hiking) Fleischmanns Old Rte 28 unmaintained (3 cars) none DEP use regs .. POTENTIAL hiking; fishing; poor entrance
streamside; 270 Old Rte 28 guard-rail primarily bk3 Bush Kill Pull-off N 42°09.6048’; W074°33.5906’ Fleischmanns, NY 12430 42.160174, -74.560518 ? public? Fleischmanns Old Rte 28 unmaintained (2 cars) none blocks access POTENTIAL none fishing; poor unaffected small stretch 46046 NY-28 public fishing on north side EXISTING (fishing primarily bk4 Kleis Rd PFR's N 42°09.2957’; W074°34.1228’ Fleischmanns, NY 12430 42.158592, -74.569415 ? rights Arkville Route 28 none none none of Bush Kill, only) fishing poor unaffected
Catskill does DURR fishing; DURR access 6 Franks St Revitilization formally allow EXISTING swimming; Large woody debris bk5 upstream N 42°08.7169’; W074°36.9931’ Arkville, NY 12406 42.145349, -74.617205 Co private Arkville Route 28 Maintained (20+ cars) bench none acccess? (limited) none stream walk poor present Catskill does DURR fishing; DURR access2 6 Franks St Revitilization formally allow EXISTING swimming; improved access bk6 (near Dry Brook) N 42°08.6749’; W074°37.0178’ Arkville, NY 12406 42.144779, -74.617745 Co private Arkville Route 28 Maintained (20+ cars) none none acccess? (limited) none stream walk poor now
TOTAL: Existing = 1; Exisiting (limited) = 3; Potential = 2
Vly Creek (Headwaters to Emory Brook/Bush Kill)
Halcott Grange 289 Co Rd 3 Greene Co fishing; stream vc1 Hall N 42°11.4730’; W074°29.1280’ Fleischmanns, NY 12430 42.191220, -74.485489 Halcott public Halcott Rte 1 Grange Hall none EXISTING walk fishing, good n/a 900 County Hwy 37 Delaware Co old lake swimming, N 42°09.7410’; W074°31.2210’ vc2 Lake Switzerland Fleischmanns, NY 12430 42.164743, -74.520211 Hrazanek private Fleischmanns Rte 37 none none bottom POTENTIAL none education poor n/a
TOTAL: Existing = 1; Exisiting (limited) = 0; Potential = 1
Dry Brook (Headwaters to East Branch Delaware above Margaretville)
private land ___ Dry Brook Rd w/trail N 42°03.4778’; W074°32.3517’ 42.051894, -74.529822 Arkville, NY 12406 Dry Brook trailhead sign; easement to stream Headwaters at Furlow Road/County maintained by NYSDEC forest preserve state land; no walking/skiing/sno db1 Seager Properties private Seager Rte 7A (10 cars) none access stream access POTENTIAL wshoeing fishing good n/a Name Public / ACCESS Map Nearest Functionality Functionality POST IRENE (General Exact Location Address Ownership Private / Road Parking details Amenities Signage Notes (Potential or Condition? Label hamlet/Village (current) (potential) Notes Description) permit? Existing)?
Upper East Branch Delaware (Grand Gorge to Lake Wawaka / HalcottsvillePFR's Pond) upstream a short distance & across stream (see DURR sites); access to water is steep; Dry Brook/Bush another pull- Kill at Chris Long 400 Dry Brook Rd Dry Brook unmaintained pull-in (2 in just above; EXISTING site flooded; better db2 Rd N 42°08.6475’; W074°37.1210’ Arkville, NY 12406 42.144061, -74.619354 Middletown private (PFRs) Arkville Road cars) none none downed tree (limited) fishing poor access
PFR's downstream on both sides (Arkville Trailer Park site flooded; Dry Brook/Bush access) all the perhaps more Kill at Arkville __ Pavillion Rd Arkville Fire pavillion, bbq, way to Route stream walks; opportunity for db3 Pavillion N 42°09.1907’; W074°37.4114’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.152767, -74.623238 District public (PFRs) Arkville Pavilion Road Field (20+ cars) horseshoes none 30 EXISTING fishing; education boat launch poor access
TOTAL: Existing = 1; Exisiting (limited) = 1; Potential = 1
Platte Kill (Headwaters to Pepacton Reservoir) Roadside pond Permit w/access near 1200 County Road 6 required Not on the EXISTING primarily pk1 Platte Kill N 42°09.8347’; W074°41.0463’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.163787, -74.684121 NYCDEP (fishing only) New Kingston Route 6 Roadside pulloff pond/wildlife DEP use regs Platte Kill (limited) fishing; education good unaffected
dirt road, nice Middle reach Permit access from downstream of 100 Crawford Rd, required Davis & both sides of EXISTING primarily pk2 New Kingston N 42°11.7323’; W074°40.6389’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.195230, -74.677168 NYCDEP (fishing only) New Kingston Crawford Rds Roadside pulloff none DEP use regs stream (limited) fishing; good unaffected
Permit same parcel required as DEP access Trow Bridge 350 County Road 6 (hiking/fishing Established area (3 at Rte 28/30 EXISTING primarily pk3 Unit; 12 acres N 42°08.9354’; W074°41.6623’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.148924, -74.694495 NYCDEP ) Dunraven Route 6 cars) none DEP use regs downstream (limited) hiking/fishing; good unaffected same parcel Trow Bridge Permit as DEP access Unit; 12 acres required at Rte 6/Rte (downstream of N 42°08.97334’; 37200 New York 28, Andes, NY (hiking/fishing State Route 28/30 EXISTING primarily pk4 Rte 6) W074°41.6303’ 13731 42.145511, -74.693841 NYCDEP ) Dunraven 28 / 30 Small roadside pulloff none DEP use regs junction (limited) hiking/fishing; good unaffected USGS gaging station w/access on Route 3 / No opposite County Route 3 185 Co Rd 3 Route 28&30 Established area (12 Swimming/Climbin bank; dump EXISTING picnic / wildlife primarily pk5 terminus N 42°07.9262’; W074°41.7112’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.131589, -74.695046 DOT or DEP? public? Dunraven junctions cars) none g/Diving site? (limited) fishing; viewing area poor unaffected
TOTAL: Existing = 0; Exisiting (limited) = 5; Potential = 0
Bryants Brook (County Rte 6 to Palmer Hill) Bryants Brook permit(hiking, Unit hunting, gate across (downstream); N 42°10.4979’; W074°43.0054’ 34300 New York 28, Andes, NY fishing, bridge (for EXISTING hiking, hunting, primarily bb1 93 acres 13731 42.178451, -74.720054 NYCDEP trapping) Andes Route 28 pulloff(5 cars) none DEP use regs access) (limited) fishing, trapping good unaffected Name Public / ACCESS Map Nearest Functionality Functionality POST IRENE (General Exact Location Address Ownership Private / Road Parking details Amenities Signage Notes (Potential or Condition? Label hamlet/Village (current) (potential) Notes Description) permit? Existing)? permit(hiking, Bryants Brook Upper East Branch Delawarehunting, (Grand Gorge to Lake Wawaka / Halcottsville Pond) Unit (upstream); 33000 New York 28, Andes, NY fishing, parking?/own EXISTING hiking, hunting, primarily bb2 93 acres N 42°10.7047’; W074°43.2087’ 13731 42.189576, -74.741219 NYCDEP trapping) Andes Route 28 pulloff? none DEP use regs ership? (limited) fishing, trapping good unaffected permit(hiking, Palmer Hill Unit hunting, (downstream); 32800 New York 28, Andes, NY fishing, decent EXISTING hiking, hunting, primarily bb3 Palmer236 acres Hill Unit N 42°11.3820’; W074°44.4756’ 13731 42.193401, -74.742959 NYCDEP permit(hiking,trapping) Andes Route 28 pulloff (5 cars) none DEP use regs parking (limited) fishing, trapping good unaffected (at Finkle Rd); 11 Finkle Rd hunting, maintained/improved maintained EXISTING hiking, hunting, primarily bb4 236 acres N 42°11.6015’; W074°44.5771’ Andes, NY 13731 42.195341, -74.743629 NYCDEP fishing, Andes Finkle Road pulloff (8 cars) vista of valley DEP use regs parking (limited) fishing, trapping education excellent unaffected
TOTAL: Existing = 0; Exisiting (limited) = 4; Potential = 0
Mill Brook (Headwaters to Pepacton Reservoir) Headwater DEC Catskill Forest access near lean- 7000 Mill Brook Rd, lean-to (0.3 trailhead sign; Preserve mb1 to N 42°03.9435’; W074°35.2849’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.065420, -74.587968 NYS public Arena Mill Brook Rd pulloff (2 cars) miles) register access EXISTING all poor n/a
Catskill Forest Headwater DEC 6970 Mill Brook Rd, Preserve mb2 pulloff N 42°04.0274’; W074°35.4558’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.067555, -74.591359 NYS public Arena Mill Brook Rd pulloff (4 cars) DEC regs access EXISTING all good n/a Grants Mill (Mill small area Brook) Covered 4325 Mill Brook Rd, with mb3 Bridge N 42°04.8299’; W074°38.1794’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.080391, -74.636103 ? public Arena Mill Brook Rd pulloff (5 cars) historic site historic place sign potential; EXISTING fishing; education good n/a Permit NYCDEP Mill 388 Mill Brook Rd, required great access; EXISTING primarily mb4 Brook Rd access N 42°06.3785’; W074°43.8552’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.106357, -74.731336 NYCDEP (fishing only) Arena Mill Brook Rd pulloff (8 cars) none DEP use regs USGS gauge (limited) fishing; good unaffected Permit seasonal NYCDEP Jim __ Jim Alton Rd required road, good EXISTING primarily mb5 Alton Rd access N 42°06.4031’; W074°43.8194’ Margaretville, NY 12455 42.106884, -74.730265 NYCDEP (fishing only) Arena Jim Alton pulloff (3 cars) none DEP use regs access (limited) fishing; poor unaffected great access; NYCDEP access Permit NYCDEP/BWS gentle slope at Pepacton N 42°06.6587’; W074°44.0899’ __ B W S Road No 10, required Reservoir Rd (ADA EXISTING boat launch; ADA primarily mb6 Reservoir Margaretville, NY 12455 42.110936, -74.734635 NYCDEP (fishing only) Arena 8 pulloff (10 cars) none DEP use regs potential) (limited) fishing; access poor unaffected
TOTAL: Existing = 3; Exisiting (limited) = 3; Potential = 0
Tremper Kill (Headwaters to Pepacton Reservoir)
potential to link with rail- trail; currently a Master Plan being developed for the Park stream 267 Lower Main St, Andes, NY County Rotue trail, benches, (aligns well walking/skiing/sno primarily tk1 Ballantine Park N 42°11.1617’; W074°47.2790’ 13731 42.186523, -74.787978 Andes (v) public Andes 1 1 car picnic tables entrance sign with this plan) EXISTING wshoeing education excellent unaffected
connects to Ballantine Park?, WWTP, 5089 County Road 1 Andes Fire County Rotue bbq, pavillion, not great primarily tk2 Andes Fire Dept N 42°10.9924’; W074°47.4565’ Andes, NY 13731 42.182773, -74.790198 District public Andes 1 20+ horseshoes none stream access POTENTIAL none fishing; good unaffected 1200 ft of frontage on NYCDEP 1255 Co Rd 1 County Route the Tremper primarily tk3 Tremperkill Unit Andes, NY 13731 42.131290, -74.807009 NYCDEP public (PAA) Andes 1 pulloff none DEP use regs Kill EXISTING unaffected Fishing access NYCDEP pulloff permit to stream and stream walk; County rte 1 150 County Road 1 required County Route Reservoir; EXISTING connects to rail primarily tk4 near Pepacton N 42°07.1955’; W074°49.2197’ Andes, NY 13731 42.120095, -74.820229 NYCDEP (fising) Shavertown 1 pulloff (10 cars) none DEP use regs end of (limited) fishing; trail (if built) good unaffected Name Public / ACCESS Map Nearest Functionality Functionality POST IRENE (General Exact Location Address Ownership Private / Road Parking details Amenities Signage Notes (Potential or Condition? Label hamlet/Village (current) (potential) Notes Description) permit? Existing)? Upper East Branch Delaware (Grand Gorge to Lake Wawaka / Halcottsville Pond) TOTAL: Existing = 2; Exisiting (limited) = 1; Potential = 1
Barkaboom Stream (Barkaboom Rd)
great waterfall, steep path 4615 Barkaboom Rd Barkaboom 3 car pulloff down, adjoins bs1 Tompkins Falls N 42°04.5130’; W074°45.8210’ Andes, NY 13731 42.075456, -74.764433 NYSDEC public Shavertown Rd (unmaintained) none Forest Preserve DEP PAA EXISTING all poor n/a borders Barkaboom Unit 4605 Barkaboom Rd Barkaboom 5 car pulloff Forest hiking, hunting, bs2 PAA N 42°04.5540’; W074°46.0120’ Andes, NY 13731 42.076177, -74.768452 NYCDEP public (PAA) Shavertown Rd (unmaintained) none DEP use regs Preserve EXISTING fishing, trapping poor n/a
TOTAL: Existing = 2; Exisiting (limited) = 0; Potential = 0
TOTALS:
EXISTING= 23 sites; EXISTING but LIMITED = 25; POTENTIAL (key sites) = 11
Pepacton Reservoir Access (Dunraven to Downsville) N_Pepacton permit BWS Road long walk to EXISTING np1 Access1 N 42°04.9641’; W074°57.7405’ NYCDEP (fishing) Downsville 30A 5 cars none DEP use regs water (limited)
N_Pepacton permit BWS Road Huntley EXISTING np2 Access2 N 42°05.6457’; W074°56.6726’ NYCDEP (fishing) Downsville 30A 10 cars none DEP use regs Hollow access (limited) Coles/Basin Clove access; N_Pepacton permit BWS Road easy grade to EXISTING np3 Access3 N 42°07.1035’; W074°53.6658’ NYCDEP (fishing) Andes 30A 10 cars; grassy none DEP use regs reservoir (limited)
Shaver Hollow access; guardrail issue; long, but easy walk to reservoir; additional N_Pepacton permit BWS Road access road EXISTING np4 Access4 N 42°06.4245’; W074°49.9126’ NYCDEP (fishing) Andes 30A none none DEP use regs upstream (limited) Between Shaver and Tremper Kill; N_Pepacton permit BWS Road short, but EXISTING np5 Access5 N 42°06.6507’; W074°49.6107’ NYCDEP (fishing) Andes 30A 3 cars none DEP use regs steep access (limited) N_Pepacton permit BWS Road good access, EXISTING np6 Access6 N 42°05.5177’; W074°49.2892’ NYCDEP (fishing) Shavertown 30A 12 cars none DEP use regs grassy (limited) DEP use regs; 10 cars, paved Catskill Park and N_Pepacton permit BWS Road roadway; 20 car parking Reservoir-related adjacent to EXISTING np7 Access7 N 42°05.3737’; W074°49.1188’ NYCDEP (fishing) Shavertown 30A across Rte 30 none signage DEP PAA (limited) N_Pepacton permit EXISTING np8 Access8 N 42°06.1299’; W074°47.5498’ NYCDEP (fishing) Andes Route 30 2 cars; decent access none DEP use regs (limited) N_Pepacton permit 1 car; Parking across EXISTING np9 Access9 N 42°06.9805’; W074°46.0908’ NYCDEP (fishing) Andes Route 30 Rte 30 for 4 cars none DEP use regs nice access (limited) N_Pepacton permit EXISTING np10 Access10 N 42°07.1615’; W074°44.9345’ NYCDEP (fishing) Andes Route 30 1 car none DEP use regs nice access (limited) N_Pepacton Access11 (Close permit EXISTING np11 Hollow) N 42°07.2589’; W074°44.2303’ NYCDEP (fishing) Arena Route 30 8 cars none DEP use regs nice access (limited) Name Public / ACCESS Map Nearest Functionality Functionality POST IRENE (General Exact Location Address Ownership Private / Road Parking details Amenities Signage Notes (Potential or Condition? Label hamlet/Village (current) (potential) Notes Description) permit? Existing)?
Upper East Branch DelawareSouth (Grand Side (potential Gorge launch to Lakesites only) Wawaka / Halcottsville Pond) great access; gentle slope S_Pepacton N 42°06.6587’; W074°44.0899’ permit (ADA EXISTING sp1 Access1 NYCDEP (fishing) Arena BWS Rd 8 pulloff (10 cars) none DEP use regs potential) (limited)
BWS Road 8 S_Pepacton N 42°05.0227’; W074°47.1389’ permit & Barkaboom parking?/own EXISTING sp2 Access2 NYCDEP (fishing) Shavertown Rd none none DEP use regs ership? (limited) S_Pepacton permit EXISTING sp3 Access3 N 42°05.1795’; W074°49.2891’ NYCDEP (fishing) Andes Route 30 20+ cars, maintained kiosk DEP use regs (limited) old paved road/ramp; near gate S_Pepacton permit chamber EXISTING sp4 Access4 N 42°04.4601’; W074°53.8160’ NYCDEP (fishing) Downsville Route 30 3 cars none DEP use regs though (limited)
long, but gradual walk S_Pepacton permit to water, vast EXISTING sp5 Access5 N 42°07.0760’; W074°43.2310’ NYCDEP (fishing) Margaretville BWS Rd 8 30 cars none DEP use regs grassy parking (limited) semi-steep access (short) S_Pepacton permit ; "Ray EXISTING sp6 Access6 N 42°05.1840’; W074°47.6200’ NYCDEP (fishing) Margaretville BWS Rd 8 15 cars none DEP use regs Weaver" (limited) long, but gradual walk to water; S_Pepacton permit(fishnin overgrown EXISTING sp7 Access7 N 42°04.2740’; W074°49.8720’ NYCDEP g) Downsville Route 30 8 cars on Beech Hill Rd none DEP use regs path (limited)
Establshed Access (non reservoir) permit (fishing) for reservoir; N_Pepacton public for BWS Road State Land access; mh1 Access DEC/DEP N 42°05.9464’; W074°52.1222’ NYCDEP state land Andes 30A 20 cars none DEP Use regs EXISTING permit (fishing) for reservoir; S_Pepacton public for State Land access; trail ot state mh2 Access DEC N 42°05.0145; W074°48.2994’ NYS state land Andes BWS Rd 4 none none DEP Use regs land EXISTING Signage Updates – Upper East Branch Delaware River
It goes without saying that one of the most critical pieces to an enhanced recreational access project for the East Branch watershed is the type, duration, and message delivered in any outreach effort. Not only is where the outreach is conducted critical, but also what information is included in the message(s), the timing of it, the duration of the message, the accuracy of it, and of course the resource itself. All of this feeds into perhaps the most critical of all - one’s ability to access these resources with ease.
This project called for the development of a plan to look at five key areas aimed at directing the public to and informing the public about accessible resources in the upper East Branch Delaware watershed. The five identified areas were:
Website Brochure Kiosks Signage Amenities.
The following recommendations are provided based upon field observations, discussions with business owners, interactions with the general public at numerous events, email exchanges, and survey results.
Website
An informative and up-to-date website is the most important component for heightening awareness of resources, educating the public about the resources available, directing them to it, and collecting post- use data and recommendations about it. In addition, 72% of the business owners that completed our online survey indicated that they use “websites” as the place they look for outdoor recreation, for use by their clientele, in the region.
As part of this project, a website, www.EastBranchAccess.com, was created. It began to give recreational access along and within the upper East Branch Delaware River and watershed an Internet presence. Prior to this project, the only “hit” that came up on search engines was for the NYSDEC’s “public fishing rights” maps…of which there is access only in one area, around the hamlet of Arkville. It was literally impossible to find information regarding access to this resource anywhere online before this project and subsequent website. www.EastBranchAccess.com
The site was populated in June 2011 and to date (1/4/13) has seen 2,526 views. The most in one day is 82 views, and the best month for visitation was July 2012, which was just prior to the Catskills Outdoor Experience Festival. These numbers are not very impressive, but it must be recognized that Signage Type Proposed Locations Total Number outdoor tourism signs indicating the East Branch Access Points. Designs will be based on the EBA identity design with park usage "Point of Access" 11 icons where appropriate. size: TBD WDC Fleischmanns Park Margaretville Municipal lot Margaretville Pavilion Margaretville Riverwalk (Main St) EB Delaware "Big Rocks" access (Rte 30) Arkville Access (DURR) on Rte 28 Kirkside Park Ballantine Park NYCDEP on the Hook for… Tremperskill / Pepacton at Rte1 & BWS 7 Shavertown Unit Palmer Hill Unit Pepcaton Reservoir Access locations
Trow Bridge Unit (Rte 28/30 & Rte 6) and production of pre-press electronic art for print use as full color, outdoor tourism signs indicating important or useful information such as “You Are Here”, area history, points of interest and such. Designs will be based on the "Town Center Kiosk Sign" 4 EBA identity design. Size is approximately 24” x 36”, size: 24" x 36" Margaretville Parking Lot Roxbury Kirkside Park Fleischmanns Park Andes Ballantine Park outdoor tourism signs indicating the direction to the nearest East Branch "Directional Sign" 26 Access point. Designs will be based on the EBA identity design. size: TBD County Rte 38 and NYS Rte 28 Arkville HUB Route 28 at Fleishmanns (E&W) Fleischmanns HUB Rte 30 at Cty Rte 38 Arkville HUB; Maargaretville HUB Rte 30 at Kelly Corners (Cty Rte 36) Arkville HUB NYS Rte 23 and NYS Rte 30 (S) Roxbury HUB NYS Rte 30 and Cty Rte 1 (N) Arkville HUB NYS Rte 30 and Cty Rte 8 Roxbury HUB BWS Rd 10 and Barkaboom Rd(S) Margaretville HUB NYS Rte 28 and Cty Rte 6 (N) Margaretville HUB NYS Rte 28 and Cty Rte ___ (Cabin Hill) Andes HUB NYS Rte 28 and ____ Rte (tremperskill) Andes HUB NYS Rte 28 at Andes Andes HUB NYS Rte 30 at Roxbury Roxbury HUB NYS Rte 28 / 30 at Margaretville Margaretville HUB NYS Rte 28 at Arkville Arkville HUB outdoor tourism signs indicating nearby amenities. These will be used in conjuction with the Directional Signs. Designs will be based on the EBA identity design. "Amenities Sign" tbd Signs are full color, simple, mostly text with minimal simple graphics, size: TBD restrooms cell phones support transportation medical access full service lodging educational there has been no real promotion of the site outside of the watershed and our resource partners to date. The site has been used primarily as a way to disseminate information to stakeholders regarding our project, and to collect information (in survey form). In the future, upon completion of this initial effort, the site should be transitioned over to one that displays and provides up-to-date information on ALL recreational access to water and lands in the upper East Branch Delaware watershed.
Current Pages: In addition to the homepage, there are currently five (5) sections on the site: “About the Project”, “About the Watershed”, “Maps”, “Get Involved”, and “What’s Happening”.
As this effort evolved, so too did the website in order to serve as the primary portal to disseminate access information to the general public.
Future Pages should include: The “About the Watershed”, “Maps”, and “What’s Happening” pages should be retained, while the “About the Project” page should be replaced with an “East Branch Stewards” page that articulates all of the concerns and efforts of this group (a recommendation here in the final report) and speaks to the history and evolution of the increased access effort. The “Get Involved” page should be changed to something along the lines of “Feedback” or “Give Us Your Thoughts” – a means to interact with the users of these resources.
Two additional pages should be added. These include a page for “Regional Links” or “Friends” where organizations, businesses, and other entities that support this effort, or are supported by this effort, can be highlighted and featured. The other page to add would be one that showcases a different location, access point, recreational pursuit, or perhaps a hamlet, village, municipality, or stream section each season (or quarter) of the year. The purpose of this page would be to spread access, attention, and use around the watershed, not only showcasing the variety of recreational pursuits, but also the diversity of the region - from small headwater streams and steep mountainsides to the valley bottoms and the massive Pepacton Reservoir.
If resources allow, the development of an interactive online mapper that can be accessed 24/7, is free of charge, and allows the user to have maps and other information at their fingertips on mobile devices should be created. This tool would be similar to the Delaware County C.O.M.I.T. tax parcel mapper or the NYSDEC’s SLIM (State Land Interactive Mapper). This interface would combine all of the recreational assets in the watershed, regardless of ownership, location, etc, and allow the users to seamlessly determine which one best suits their interest. This would also allow for posting of the most current data and information on closures, hazards, and other pertinent information. Since the Delaware County Planning Department has something similar to this for real property tax services, something, perhaps in conjunction with them, could be developed for recreational access in the upper East Branch area.
Brochures
With the ever-increasing use, acceptance, and access to the Internet, brochures are becoming less and less critical to spreading the word. They certainly still serve a purpose, but no longer is it necessary to plaster roadside pull-offs and rest stops, kiosks, regional visitor centers, and even businesses with them. These arenas have now been replaced with having a distinct and prominent Internet presence. Brochures are still important, but now have a much narrower niche, and any brochures for this project should be limited to the greater Catskill Mountain area.
Brochures for promoting access to the East Branch Delaware should be created, but primarily for use at local festivals, fairs, community gatherings, and local tourism stands/offices. Brochures for this project should not be created/produced to introduce the GENERAL public about the East Branch area, but should be created to educate and inform the INTERESTED public about how to access the resource and what the resource really is.
Meaning, the brochure should focus on informing people that either live in the area and are somewhat familiar with these resources, or people that have come to the area to take advantage of the natural resources. For example, the brochure should not be tailored to someone that is planning a hiking and fishing vacation in the northeast, but rather to someone that is already in the Catskill region or has committed themselves to visiting the Catskill region / East Branch watershed. Attracting the user to the Catskill region for hiking/fishing is the function of larger tourism efforts, such as CATS or I LOVE NY, etc. Once in the area, we want them to choose the East Branch region over the Neversink, Schoharie, etc.
What should be Included in the East Branch Delaware Brochure:
Types of Recreational Pursuits (fishing, canoeing, kayaking, sailing, hiking, swimming, cross-country skiing, snowshoeing, bird watching) Brief Summary of the major stream systems and watershed lands with indication of what type or recreation is most suitable in that area Brief overview of the hamlets/villages throughout the watershed with a general description of the types of amenities that are found in each (bait shops, food, restrooms, etc) The Pepacton Reservoir Recreational Boating Program (launches, vendors, regulations, etc) “Leave No Trace” Principals Information on the two or three most pressing aquatic or terrestrial (only for streamside access points) invasive species Brief descriptions of NYSDEC Forest Preserve Lands, NYCDEP lands, Municipally-owned lands, Public Fishing Rights, and what it means to be a “good neighbor”. A real basic overview of the Enhanced East Branch Recreational Access project, the Central Catskills Chamber of Commerce and Water Discovery Center partnership A general overview map with hamlets, major streams/waterbodies and open spaces with information that directs people to the website(s) for more detailed information, directions, and more.
Below is a quick version that was created through this project for the 2013 Catskill Outdoor Experience Festival in Margaretville.
Informational Kiosks
The kiosks for this project that have been proposed are similar to those that currently exist at a majority of NYSDEC trailheads in the Catskill Park and Forest Preserve. The overall dimensions are 7’- 9” wide x 7’ 6” long x 7’ 3” tall. The structure consists to two panels (side by side) each with an area of 24” x 36”. As proposed, these kiosks are two-sided, thus doubling the available area of a typical NYSDEC public access informational kiosk. There are a total of four display areas, one of which would be used to highlight East Branch Delaware recreational amenities. See below:
The incentive to standardize the look and feel of these structures (with the NYSDEC ones) as much as possible makes a lot of sense and should be a priority. This thread of continuity indicates to the user(s) that this region has a sense of place and has invested in these resources, and cares about the user experience and the resource in general.
The four kiosks recommended for construction as a part of this enhanced recreational access project include one in Andes, one in Fleischmanns, one in Original kiosk in the Margaretville municipal parking lot that was destroyed in Tropical Storm Roxbury, and one in Margaretville. The kiosk in Irene. A kiosk similar to this will be installed once again. Margaretville (pictured) is already under development and funding is in place for construction. This kiosk will be different in the sense that it will essentially replace the one that existed pre-Tropical Storm Irene. It will contain some information on the Pepacton Boating, the Catskill Forest Preserve, and East Branch recreation. The kiosks specifically designed and constructed for this East Branch access project could contain the following information:
A map, tabloid size at a minimum, of the upper East Branch watershed lands/waters that indicates the state lands, city lands, municipal parks, multi-use trails, Pepacton designated launch sites, public fishing rights and designated access sites, the hamlets/business districts, location of steam cleaning outfits. Types of Recreational Pursuits (fishing, canoeing, kayaking, sailing, hiking, swimming, cross-country skiing, snowshoeing, bird watching). Brief Summary of the major stream systems and watershed lands with indication of what type or recreation is most suitable in that particular area. Brief overview of the hamlets/villages throughout the watershed with a general description of the types of amenities that are found in each (bait shops, food, restrooms, etc) The Pepacton Reservoir Recreational Boating Program (launches, vendors, regulations, etc) “Leave No Trace” Principals Information on aquatic and/or terrestrial (only for streamside access points) invasive species Brief descriptions of NYSDEC Forest Preserve Lands, NYCDEP lands, Municipally-owned lands, Public Fishing Rights, what it means to be a “good neighbor” Information on the proposed Water Discovery Center
Potential locations where new upper East Branch Delaware recreational kiosks could be established include:
Margaretville (along the Binnekill at the community parking lot) – already under development Fleischmanns - at the new Village Park (see image) Roxbury - at Kirkside Park Andes - at Ballantine Park
There are a few existing kiosks that have a similar focus to this project. The possibility of coordinating design specifications and information with any of these newly-designed structures with those that already exist, particularly the look and feel, should be explored. These existing kiosks include: CWC kiosk at the Shavertown Bridge located on the southern shore along NYS Route 30 (seen here) NYCDEP kiosk(s) on either side of the old Dunraven bridge / fishing platforms along NYS Route 30/28 (north) and Reservoir Rd (south) a few miles west of Margaretville. (seen at right)
An area on each of these existing kiosks could potentially be dedicated to increasing recreational access in the upper East Branch watershed. The owner/maintainer of these structures could be approached and asked for permission to provide the following: A panel (tabloid size at a minimum) that summarizes the types of recreational access such as the NYCDEP watershed lands/waters NYSDEC lands/waters municipally-owned areas Pepacton boating program Water Discovery Center site and other non-profit owned accessible lands the URL of the EastBranchAccess.com website (for more information)
Signage
In addition to inadequate online recreational access information, the lack of recreational signage was identified repeatedly throughout this project as an impediment to realizing the benefits of access. This not only came out in the general East Branch access survey, but also with business owners and during conversations with the general public and numerous festivals.
There are four types of signs that exist in the East Branch region that provide users some information regarding our natural resources and gaining access to them. There are “way-finding” signs, “access point” signs, “educational” or “awareness” signs, and “property use designation” signs. All are important, and all but one form are severely lacking in the upper East Branch Delaware and its watershed.
Way-finding - Way-finding signs, perhaps the most critical of all, direct potential users to the resource(s) that are available in that particular area. Way- finding signs are virtually non-existent in the upper East Branch watershed. The few current examples that exist include a NYSDEC sign along Route 30 for Little Pond Campground and a NYSDOT sign along Route 30/28 for a fishing pier.
Educational or Awareness - Another type of signage, which are educational in nature, and often thought of as not as important, are actually very critical. These signs are those that heighten awareness or educate the users, telling the user that this particular area lends itself to outdoor recreation and access to streams, trails, etc. There is some of this signage in the watershed area, although not enough. We recommend expanding the “Catskill Park” logo on top of road signage up into the Roxbury area and along Route 28 toward Andes.
Existing Educational / Awareness signage examples:
Access Point Signage – A third type of signage in the watershed are those that are found at each particular access point. With most of the accessible lands in the upper East Branch watershed being on lands owned by the City of New York, the signs that exist are more like ‘posted’ signs, which describe what use is permitted and if a permit is needed, or not (see the next section). Aside from these signs, the majority are NYSDEC signs that indicate trailheads, or lean-to locations. There are no designated NYS fishing access signs, although some locations do exist and the potential is there. The final report will recommend the addition of many of these types of signs where access is prevalent, although signage is lacking.
Existing Access Point Signage Examples:
Signage Type Proposed Locations Total Number outdoor tourism signs indicating the East Branch Access Points. Designs will be based on the EBA identity design with park usage "Point of Access" 11 icons where appropriate. size: TBD WDC Fleischmanns Park Margaretville Municipal lot Margaretville Pavilion Margaretville Riverwalk (Main St) EB Delaware "Big Rocks" access (Rte 30) Arkville Access (DURR) on Rte 28 Kirkside Park Ballantine Park NYCDEP on the Hook for… Tremperskill / Pepacton at Rte1 & BWS 7 Shavertown Unit Palmer Hill Unit Pepcaton Reservoir Access locations
Trow Bridge Unit (Rte 28/30 & Rte 6) and production of pre-press electronic art for print use as full color, outdoor tourism signs indicating important or useful information such as “You Are Here”, area history, points of interest and such. Designs will be based on the "Town Center Kiosk Sign" 4 EBA identity design. Size is approximately 24” x 36”, size: 24" x 36" Margaretville Parking Lot Roxbury Kirkside Park Fleischmanns Park Andes Ballantine Park outdoor tourism signs indicating the direction to the nearest East Branch "Directional Sign" 26 Access point. Designs will be based on the EBA identity design. size: TBD County Rte 38 and NYS Rte 28 Arkville HUB Route 28 at Fleishmanns (E&W) Fleischmanns HUB Rte 30 at Cty Rte 38 Arkville HUB; Maargaretville HUB Rte 30 at Kelly Corners (Cty Rte 36) Arkville HUB NYS Rte 23 and NYS Rte 30 (S) Roxbury HUB NYS Rte 30 and Cty Rte 1 (N) Arkville HUB NYS Rte 30 and Cty Rte 8 Roxbury HUB BWS Rd 10 and Barkaboom Rd(S) Margaretville HUB NYS Rte 28 and Cty Rte 6 (N) Margaretville HUB NYS Rte 28 and Cty Rte ___ (Cabin Hill) Andes HUB NYS Rte 28 and ____ Rte (tremperskill) Andes HUB NYS Rte 28 at Andes Andes HUB NYS Rte 30 at Roxbury Roxbury HUB NYS Rte 28 / 30 at Margaretville Margaretville HUB NYS Rte 28 at Arkville Arkville HUB outdoor tourism signs indicating nearby amenities. These will be used in conjuction with the Directional Signs. Designs will be based on the EBA identity design. "Amenities Sign" tbd Signs are full color, simple, mostly text with minimal simple graphics, size: TBD restrooms cell phones support transportation medical access full service lodging educational Property Use Designation Signage – The last type of sign that relates to public access are the ones that are most widely-seen in the watershed. These are combination of ‘recreational use’ signs (telling the user what is or what isn’t permitted and a posted sign all rolled into one. These are the NYCDEP signs that indicate what uses exist on that particular unit and if an access permit (through the DEP) is required or not.
Somewhat similar to these are the NYSDEC’s posted signs for Public Fishing Rights (PFRs). There are a few locations along the Bush Kill and the Dry Brook where PFR’s exist, however signage for those areas is not seen.
Re-posting of these PFRs is imperative, as the signage is no loger there, or the stream has migrated across the floodplain enough is some cases, where the yellow signage is no longer along the stream. PFRs – 33-foot-wide swaths along the stream - move with the stream, they are not static.
Amenities
In many senses of the word, very few “amenities” currently exist in the upper East Branch Delaware River watershed. Types of amenities for this project, included things like: Public Rest Rooms, Support Transportation (Van pickup or kayak/canoe pickup for example), Cell Phone coverage, Medical Access and Emergency Services, Full Service Destination Lodging and Programs, Children and Teen Activities, and Educational programs.
An online survey (at www.EastBranchAccess.com) was conducted of 142 users or potential users of the recreational resource. Public restrooms was the most important (55.6%) followed by Cell Phone Coverage (50.9%), followed by Support Transportation (18.5%) and Full Service Destination Lodging Programs (18.5%). The survey was launched June 14, 2011 and was closed June 22, 2012. The survey was designed and initiated prior to the Pepacton Reservoir being open for non-motorized boating access, as well as prior to Tropical Storms Irene and Lee.
Below is a bar graph of results from Question #12 of the survey, which asked: “What types of services would you need to make it easier to enjoy recreational pursuits?” 119 respondents to this question
As you’ll see from the graph, there were 26 responses in the “Other” category, and the written responses have been included below.
. boat ramps . More DEC Info. Better Garmin maps (they are very incomplete) . My main concern would be active protection the sites as "recreational use" is increased. In other words, whatever of the above activities/improvements are pursued, I would hope an environmentally sensitive approach will be paramount. Otherwise, we're just talking about more trash, noise, etc. in more previously undisturbed sites. . livery service guided kayak trip or tubing trip . ALL THE REGULATORY AGENCIES WORKING TOGETHER TO IMPROVE THE RESOURCES . equipment rentals place to purchase access permits cell service for GPS or in case of emergency . boat rental shops . kayak/canoe/sunfish rental made available . Generally, more access to streams, but undeveloped access. . NYS DEP publications and website updates, NYS Conservationist articles, Catskll Mtn News articles, 'opt-in' email distributions, Trout Unlimited articles . improved access . Increased access areas . More time to get away to the Catskills . web sites . boat launches . Less posted land,more DEC public easements for stream access. . increased public fishing rights . There are no handicapped access in the Esopus, none on the east branch Perpacton . more public access . state purchase of public fishing rights and fisherman access areas - better use of DOT road redo to provide pull offs, etc for fisherman parking - statewide, not just East Branch Delaware! . even fewer restrictions on watershed property access . Info/maps . A good tourism dedicated website that unites the region and its offers. . Cell towers, More bait and tackle shops . Access to Pepacton for sailing. Bike trails. . Info organized and accessible in brochures, online, etc.
Very few of the written responses actually dealt with “amenities”, but ones that did essentially boiled down to improved digital capabilities to access better information in an easier way/format.
With the recent activation of a nearby cellular tower outside of Margaretville, improved cell phone coverage is already in place. Certainly not all of the watershed area is serviced, but much more now since the survey was initiated. The public restrooms, or lack thereof, continues to be a problem with no easy or inexpensive answer. This issue should be addressed in the near future so that the full outdoor recreational potential of the Upper East Branch Delaware watershed can be realized. Over the last couple of decades, this matter continues to be an issue the repeatedly surfaces, causing roadblocks and lack of action because it appears to have no simple answer. If local leaders can work together to come up with a solution, the upper East Branch could become a more attractive location to continually recreate. Enhanced Recreational Access to the upper East Branch Delaware River Survey
This online survey (at www.EastBranchAccess.com) was conducted of 142 users or potential users of the recreational resource. The survey was launched June 14, 2011 and was closed June 22, 2012. The survey was designed and initiated prior to the Pepacton Reservoir being open for non-motorized boating access, as well as prior to Tropical Storms Irene and Lee.
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What activities would you enjoy with increased access to the stream?
Response Response
Percent Count
Hiking/Nature Walks 75.7% 103
Swimming/Wading 43.4% 59
Wildlife/Bird Watching 50.0% 68
Kayaking/Canoeing 61.8% 84
Fishing 58.8% 80
Other (please specify) 9.6% 13
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Do you currently or have you ever fished the Pepacton Reservoir?
Response Response
Percent Count
Yes 48.5% 64
No 51.5% 68
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Have you participated in non-motorized boating on the Cannonsville Reservoir?
Response Response
Percent Count
Yes 18.3% 24
No 81.7% 107
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Do you visit the Central Catskills for Winter recreational activities?
Cross- Downhill Ice Winter Response county Snowmobiling Skiing Fishing Hikes/Snowshoeing Count Skiing
48.5% 53.5% 10.9% Winter (all that apply) 71.3% (72) 6.9% (7) 101 (49) (54) (11)
Other (please specify) 19
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1 Astronomy May 14, 2012 7:27 PM
2 I RESIDE HERE Mar 18, 2012 10:56 AM
3 resident Mar 6, 2012 3:21 PM
4 I have a weekend house and come up every other weekend year-round. Feb 21, 2012 12:03 PM
5 I'm a local yokel. Feb 13, 2012 12:11 PM
6 hunting I live here. Feb 12, 2012 6:37 PM
7 ice climbing; extreme frozen lake ice bowling Feb 12, 2012 4:55 PM
8 skiingt Feb 12, 2012 3:42 PM
9 scenic drive Feb 12, 2012 3:13 PM
10 I live here. Feb 12, 2012 1:48 PM
11 snow shoe hiking Feb 12, 2012 1:11 PM
12 Not north of Bkill ridge very often. Feb 12, 2012 12:20 PM
13 I live here Feb 12, 2012 11:48 AM
14 I don't know if "visit" applies, I live here Feb 12, 2012 11:36 AM
15 hunting don't visit, live here Feb 12, 2012 10:27 AM
16 I live in Margaretville, but you get the idea. I'm a serious skier... Feb 12, 2012 8:24 AM
17 Birdwatching I live here Feb 12, 2012 8:19 AM
18 Only in the area for the summer months. Jan 17, 2012 12:26 PM
19 I live here. Jul 23, 2011 4:58 AM
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Fishing Canoeing/Kayaking Bicycling Hiking/Running Camping Golf
55.7% 42.6% 35.2% 20.5% Summer (all that apply) 49.2% (60) 68.0% (83) (68) (52) (43) (25)
Other (please specify)
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1 Birdwatching Nature observation May 2, 2012 11:48 AM
2 AGAIN I LIVE HERE BUT I PRACTICE ALL THE ABOVE.I AM A LICENSED Mar 18, 2012 10:56 AM FISHING GUIDE
3 resident farmers markets events Mar 6, 2012 3:21 PM
4 tubing Feb 23, 2012 11:59 AM
5 I'm a local yokel. Feb 13, 2012 12:11 PM
6 Hunting (fall); extreme mountain dirt road bowling Feb 12, 2012 4:55 PM
7 fly fishing Feb 12, 2012 3:42 PM
8 I live here. Feb 12, 2012 1:48 PM
9 Not often. Feb 12, 2012 12:20 PM
10 See above Feb 12, 2012 11:48 AM
11 see above Feb 12, 2012 11:36 AM
12 Live in Maggieville but would love to be able to kayak here. Feb 12, 2012 8:24 AM
13 Bird watching I live here Feb 12, 2012 8:19 AM
14 Four Wheeling Jan 17, 2012 2:05 PM
15 Music Jan 17, 2012 12:26 PM
16 I live here. Jul 23, 2011 4:58 AM
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Daily 24.6% 33
Weekly 57.5% 77
Summer 38.1% 51
Winter 23.1% 31
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Yes 55.2% 74
No 44.8% 60
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Yes 28.0% 37
No 72.0% 95
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If you are not a year-round resident or second homeowner, do you consider yourself an occasional visitor to the Central Catskills?
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Yes 62.5% 30
No 37.5% 18
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What types of information services do you use, on a regular basis, to learn about recreational access along the East Branch of the Delaware and other local stream corridors?
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Regional Print Newspapers 60.9% 78
Tourism Brochures and Magazines 38.3% 49
Internet 78.1% 100
Regional Organizations 44.5% 57
Chambers of Commerce 22.7% 29
Road Signage 41.4% 53
Friends 70.3% 90
Other (please specify) 12.5% 16
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1 none May 10, 2012 9:55 PM
2 NYNJTC Hiking Maps May 10, 2012 4:41 PM
3 NYNJTC May 10, 2012 12:02 PM
4 WIOX Radio Apr 25, 2012 7:32 AM
5 WORD OF MOUTH Mar 18, 2012 11:07 AM
6 roxbury web site Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM
7 RiverResevoir flow and temperature gauges Feb 13, 2012 8:02 PM
8 I don't use information sources, I go and look. Feb 12, 2012 5:27 PM
9 DEC Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM
10 wiox 91.3 fm radio, Facebook Feb 12, 2012 4:28 PM
11 NYDEC Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM
12 local Trout Unlimited members Feb 12, 2012 3:15 PM
13 Ulster Co,chambers of commerce, is pitifull in giving info for any type of fishing Feb 12, 2012 1:09 PM within the catskill region.
14 friends I live near the area and spend alot of money and time in the Catskills Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM
15 I don't. I already know pretty much what I need to know. Feb 12, 2012 12:23 PM
16 local word of mouth Feb 12, 2012 11:39 AM
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Improved Road Signage 69.5% 82
Visitor/Tourism Centers 43.2% 51
Sporting Goods Specialty Shops 37.3% 44
Full-Service Recreation Weekend 25.4% 30 or Mid-Week Offers
Family Outdoor Recreation Offers 26.3% 31
Increased Handicapped 8.5% 10 Assessibility
Other (please specify) 22.0% 26
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1 boat ramps May 10, 2012 9:55 PM
2 More DEC Info. Better Garmin maps (they are very incomplete) May 10, 2012 3:15 PM
3 My main concern would be active protection the sites as "recreational use" is May 2, 2012 11:51 AM increased. In other words, whatever of the above activities/improvements are pursued, I would hope an environmentally sensitive approach will be paramount. Otherwise, we're just talking about more trash, noise, etc. in more previously undisturbed sites.
4 livery service guided kayak trip or tubing trip Apr 25, 2012 7:02 PM
5 ALL THE REGULATORY AGENCIES WORKING TOGETHER TO IMPROVE Mar 18, 2012 11:07 AM THE RESOURCES
6 equipment rentals place to purchase access permits cell service for GPS or in Mar 6, 2012 3:25 PM case of emergency
7 boat rental shops Feb 23, 2012 12:02 PM
8 kayak/canoe/sunfish rental made available Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM
9 NYS DEP publications and website updates, NYS Conservationist articles, Feb 20, 2012 8:40 AM Catskll Mtn News articles, 'opt-in' email distributions, Trout Unlimited articles
10 Generally, more access to streams, but undeveloped access. Feb 20, 2012 8:40 AM
11 improved access Feb 14, 2012 6:59 AM
12 Increased access areas Feb 13, 2012 8:02 PM
13 More time to get away to the Catskills Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM
14 web sites Feb 12, 2012 4:36 PM
15 boat launches Feb 12, 2012 4:28 PM
16 Less posted land,more DEC public easements for stream access. Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM
17 increased public fishing rights Feb 12, 2012 3:15 PM
18 There are no handicapped access in the Esopus, none on the east branch Feb 12, 2012 1:09 PM Perpacton
19 more public access Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM
20 state purchase of public fishing rights and fisherman access areas - better use of Feb 12, 2012 10:36 AM DOT road redo to provide pull offs, etc for fisherman parking - statewide, not just East Branch Delaware!
21 even fewer restrictions on watershed property access Feb 12, 2012 9:50 AM
22 Info/maps Feb 12, 2012 8:30 AM
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23 A good tourism dedicated website that unites the region and its offers. Feb 12, 2012 8:27 AM
24 Cell towers,More bait and tackle shops Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM
25 Access to Pepacton for sailing. Bike trails. Jul 23, 2011 5:07 AM
26 Info organized and accessible in brochures, online, etc. Jul 22, 2011 3:03 PM
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What amenities are most important to you as part of your outdoor recreational experience?
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Convenient Public Rest Rooms 55.1% 59
Support Transportation (Van pickup 18.7% 20 for example)
Cell Phone Coverage 51.4% 55
Full Service Medical Access and 13.1% 14 Emergency Services
Full Service Destination Lodging 17.8% 19 and Programs
Children and Teen Activities 12.1% 13
Education such as Road Scholar 12.1% 13 programs (formerly ElderHostel)
Other (please specify) 22.4% 24
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1 Child oriented educational programs available to educate vacationers. May 10, 2012 3:15 PM
2 Less "Cell Phone Coverage" , ain't that the whole point? May 10, 2012 8:33 AM
3 Trash receptacles. May 2, 2012 11:51 AM
4 N/A Mar 18, 2012 11:07 AM
5 well kept trails, portapotty is ok, garbage cans Mar 6, 2012 3:25 PM
6 available parking, secure boat storage, rental, cleaning, Feb 23, 2012 12:02 PM
7 parking, marked access points (I never know if I am trespassing or not) Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM
8 'forever wild' preservation...keep it natural. Feb 20, 2012 8:40 AM
9 Nothing on this list is critical. Expanded cell phone coverage would be nice, but I Feb 20, 2012 8:40 AM fished for years without a cell phone. More restaurants would be nice.
10 The outdoors Feb 16, 2012 8:02 AM
11 non of these matter to me Feb 13, 2012 9:24 AM
12 Access and parking Feb 13, 2012 8:59 AM
13 No amenities needed, just the "go ahead." Feb 12, 2012 6:55 PM
14 Back-County camping; high quality quiet campgrounds. Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM
15 Silence. Quiet...respectful visitors Feb 12, 2012 4:36 PM
16 Good resturants Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM
17 Safe parking areas, trash disposal at parking areas. Feb 12, 2012 1:18 PM
18 If you check the Farmington river in Conn. they have rest rooms by the river and Feb 12, 2012 1:09 PM picnic tables by the river but no garbage cans- ( bring in take out) very well patroled, by En-Con officers
19 public access is the issue too many amenities can ruin the outdoor experience Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM
20 none of these but van pickup would be super handy for a bunch of activities. Feb 12, 2012 8:27 AM
21 This area needs more cell towers,there is not one cell tower from Downsville to Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM East Branch or around the Pepacton Resevoir!!!
22 The more remote and undeveloped the better Jan 12, 2012 8:36 AM
23 safe parking, put-in sites for kayak, clear understanding of riparian rights to Sep 4, 2011 4:24 PM stream access vs. private property restrictions/posted signs.
24 Knowing whwre kayak access points are, how long it takes to travel in between Jul 22, 2011 3:03 PM them, what the water level is, where you could stop for food or drink
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In the waterbody(ies) that you indicated you currently use for recreation (in Question #2), what areas along those particular streams/waterbodies would you like to have increased access to? NOTE: In addition to providing the name of the stream/waterbody, please list specific potential access points or reaches of the stream/waterbody and the recreational use it could provide for the public.
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NOTE: In addition to providing the name of the stream/waterbody, please list specific potential access...
1 behind Freshtown supermarket, and the riverwalk inMargaretville ny 12455 May 22, 2012 5:40 PM
2 Rental canoes and sailboats on northern Pepacton reservoir May 21, 2012 12:24 PM
3 Would love to be able to kayak and canoe nearer to my home on Margaretville May 21, 2012 8:17 AM
4 More hiking opportunities on southern shore of the Pepacton reservoir May 14, 2012 7:32 PM
5 Current access adequate May 10, 2012 9:01 AM
6 the reservoirs May 10, 2012 8:20 AM
7 Access to East Branch between Halcottsville and Cross Road. Apr 27, 2012 8:36 AM
8 Lands owned by the Water Discovery Center allowing access to fishing and Apr 25, 2012 9:18 AM kayaking
9 brookside access Apr 1, 2012 3:21 PM
10 access to Pepacton is huge, I'll explore there first by boat and see what else Mar 6, 2012 3:25 PM there is.
11 pepacton reservoir, millbrook area Feb 27, 2012 7:19 AM
12 Bushkill stream where it enters the Pepacton Reservoir. Millbrook stream where Feb 26, 2012 12:17 PM it enters the Pepacton Reservoir.
13 millbrook Feb 26, 2012 10:16 AM
14 Rt28 /Rt30 intersection would be a good access point. Parking, restrooms and a Feb 23, 2012 12:02 PM boat house, launch and boat cleaning facility would be desirable here.
15 Pepacton Res. I live across from the fishing access on Rt 28 which would be Feb 22, 2012 1:49 PM very good access for hikers,and nature walkers. But needs some work for any type of boat access. It's right along the highway and there is parking. .
16 East Brach, Halcottsville - space downstream from the dam to put in a Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM canoe/kayak, a bridge across the stream halfway between the Bragg Hollow bridge and the Old River Road bridge so you can take a walk around the stream (there's a privately owned bridge there), a space on the east bank where the water is deeper and there is a rocky bottom for access to mud-free swimming.
17 The east branch of the Delaware provides a lot opportunities for public fishing Feb 20, 2012 8:40 AM rights - all you need is access and there shouldn't be any conflicts. Years ago you used to be able to fish the entire length of the stream behind Hidden Waters Golf course from the rt 30 bridge up to where Batavia Kill comes in. Any part of Mill Brook above where the tuscarora club owns the creek and state land would be very nice. Vly Creek just above "lake Switzerland" has a stretch just below the first bridge that was owned by George Waller who passed away before the flood - then the flood nailed the property. Heirs might be willing to sell fishing
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rights or land. Plus, a long stretch of Vly (2 miles or so) from that first bridge upstream to the Morse property has been closed to fishing for many decades - would be nice to get access.
18 Upper Pepacton and the east branch above Margaretville Feb 16, 2012 5:23 PM
19 Canoeing and kayaking and rafting the East Branch from Margaretville in the Feb 16, 2012 8:02 AM reservoir
20 Pepacton Feb 16, 2012 6:22 AM
21 I'm not sure at this time. Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM
22 Pepacton Reservoir, north & south shoreline. Feb 13, 2012 9:24 AM
23 Pepacton Reservoir for small sail boats Feb 13, 2012 9:18 AM
24 Pepacton north and south Feb 13, 2012 8:35 AM
25 East Branch Below Pepacton Reservoir Feb 13, 2012 5:47 AM
26 Entire Pepacton and the East Branch above the Pepacton. Feb 12, 2012 6:55 PM
27 lower E. Branch,Dry Brook Feb 12, 2012 5:05 PM
28 Dry Brook Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM
29 grand gorge Feb 12, 2012 4:57 PM
30 Increased access anywhere along any of the streams you list that contain trout. Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM Most of them are posted along most of their lengths
31 n/a Feb 12, 2012 3:15 PM
32 Stream maps for Delaware E. Br. and tribs showing public access and PFR's Feb 12, 2012 2:45 PM
33 Pepacton Reservoir. My access is fine but I am thrilled to be able to kayak on the Feb 12, 2012 1:53 PM reservoir. For other people I would think the Shaver Town Bridge where Rt 30 crosses the reservoir would be a good put in spot.
34 Areas closest to inlet of East Branch into reservoir. Feb 12, 2012 1:18 PM
35 upper and lower east branch, especially the lower section below east branch Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM
36 Not applicable. Feb 12, 2012 12:23 PM
37 any of ther streams in the Catskills where trout are Feb 12, 2012 12:16 PM
38 Bushkill, along Rt 28 Millbrook Vly Creek Feb 12, 2012 11:39 AM
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39 Pepacton Res, Schoharie Res Feb 12, 2012 11:34 AM
40 Huggins Lake, DEC pulloff and parking needs better signage, sometimes sign Feb 12, 2012 10:36 AM either not there or really obscure. Too easy to drive by if one does not know where one is going.
41 Pepactin Reservoir - at or near Shavertown Bridge Feb 12, 2012 10:31 AM
42 Dry Brook, Tremperskill, North side Pepacton Reservoir Feb 12, 2012 8:53 AM
43 Upper East Branch Delaware - around Roxbury & above... Feb 12, 2012 8:30 AM
44 Big rocks could use better trail access -- even above them on the east branch. In Feb 12, 2012 8:27 AM the village it would be great to have a kayak put in spot and to be able to kayak to the reservoir...
45 Swimming hole on Route 30 in East Branch between Route 38 and Feb 12, 2012 8:17 AM Margaretville; Bushkill at the Fleischmanns village park.
46 Dry Brook is a beautiful stream but one landowner owns virtually every inch of Feb 2, 2012 6:41 PM stream access. It is a stream that prior to the hurricane had finally reestablished its fish stock after being devastated by the '96 flood. Stocking with fish and public access wherever possible would be advantageous if coupled with serious attention paid to the fishing potential of the greater Headwaters area, including stocking on a grand scale as well as increased access.
47 Open access to the Pepacton Reservoir for kayaks, with access right at the Feb 2, 2012 4:39 PM beginning of the reservoir, where 30 branches off of 28.
48 I would love to see more access to the Pepacton Reservoir,you have to be a billy Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM goat to get to and from the water to go fishing.The Cannonsville Reservoir has so much more access to fishing.
49 Boating & swimming on all resivors would be wonderfull Jan 17, 2012 10:29 AM
50 Sailboat Nov 29, 2011 7:31 PM
51 East branch of Delaware river area just west of Margaretville town for fishing. Sep 10, 2011 7:12 AM
52 vly creek, halcott center, esopus creek. Sep 4, 2011 4:24 PM
53 Along main street Roxbury down to south of roxbury Sep 2, 2011 8:20 AM
54 Pepaction - Along Rt.28 heading towards shavertown bridge Aug 26, 2011 5:18 PM
55 Pepacton reservoir should be opened up for recreational boating Jul 27, 2011 7:08 PM
56 Pepacton at Margaretville/Middletown. Jul 23, 2011 5:07 AM
57 east branch of the delaware Jun 28, 2011 9:54 AM
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58 Margaretville in the village center near Pavilion and village parking. Jun 11, 2011 1:16 PM
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1 money and the buget in the village May 22, 2012 5:40 PM
2 Getting the word out - making sure there are adequate and clear signs and May 21, 2012 8:17 AM regulations while making it welcoming and easy to access
3 Lack of parking locations. No landing areas on Southern shore of Pepacton for May 14, 2012 7:32 PM storing Canoes, kayaks, or sailboats for the new recreational boating program
4 money May 10, 2012 9:55 PM
5 Too many people with disrespect (little concept) for nature. May 10, 2012 3:15 PM
6 River access May 10, 2012 2:12 PM
7 Funding and/or volunteers to maintain new areas May 10, 2012 12:02 PM
8 Official access and parking May 10, 2012 8:20 AM
9 Private property owners. Litter & noise by those using the streams. Apr 27, 2012 8:36 AM
10 I would like to be able to kayak more of the pepacton by making a one-way Apr 25, 2012 7:02 PM paddle and using a livery service or a two-car shuttle to retun the boat(s) to the launch point by car. Since the boat will be either on the reservoir or on the road next to the reservoir, there is no increased risk of introducing contamination to the water.
11 Getting private landowners to agree to public access over their lands and Apr 25, 2012 9:18 AM minimizing the public's abuse of that land once they do gain access
12 lack of signage Apr 1, 2012 3:21 PM
13 PRIVATE PROPERTY Mar 18, 2012 11:07 AM
14 advertising, promotion, guide service, trail maintenance Mar 6, 2012 3:25 PM
15 posted lands, difficulty during low water times Mar 2, 2012 2:33 PM
16 permission from DEP, lack of signage, lack of support to turn access into viable Feb 27, 2012 10:28 AM economic development opportunities for local towns
17 pepacton reservoir - decreasing water level a season progresses. Property Feb 27, 2012 7:19 AM owner restricting access to streams and ponds
18 Requiring steam cleaning of kayaks and canoes. Feb 26, 2012 12:17 PM
19 property owner restrictions Feb 26, 2012 10:16 AM
20 DEP Feb 25, 2012 5:32 AM
21 available parking and the DEP's restrictive regulations. Provide conveinient boat Feb 23, 2012 12:02 PM
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cleaning facilities and short term passes.
22 Parking, knowledge of where you can go so you can use all these great outdoor Feb 22, 2012 1:49 PM activities
23 Not sure about the legalities - I believe the land around Lake Wewaka is privately Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM owned, but the owners may be flexible to working out arrangements for usage.
24 land owner resistance due to fear of civil actions being filed against them should Feb 20, 2012 8:40 AM anyone get inured on their property
25 Not sure Feb 20, 2012 8:40 AM
26 Increased garbage, potential transport of invasive species into the system and Feb 20, 2012 5:53 AM the "catch and keep" practices impacting fish population (especially on smaller streams with native trout)
27 Stop harassment by DEP officers who have nothing to do Feb 19, 2012 1:34 PM
28 maintenance of site, demarcation between public and private lands, parking Feb 18, 2012 7:10 PM
29 Easy access Feb 16, 2012 5:23 PM
30 No Trespass signs Feb 16, 2012 8:02 AM
31 DEP permission Feb 16, 2012 6:22 AM
32 No Access signs Feb 15, 2012 9:31 AM
33 Restricted access and lack of information on current access points Feb 14, 2012 9:00 AM
34 Old time views on access unless for hunting Unable to see anything except for Feb 14, 2012 6:59 AM the proposed Highmount Resort
35 steep banks and private land Feb 13, 2012 8:02 PM
36 Perhaps liability and insurance issues, as well as permission from landowners on Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM posted property. Since the August 2011 flood events, debris and stream course changes should be considered.
37 Signage. Every summer, I have to repeatedly give directions to hikers who can't Feb 13, 2012 11:40 AM find their way because there are so few signs.
38 Private landowners / Feb 13, 2012 9:24 AM
39 Publicity Feb 13, 2012 9:18 AM
40 Parking and public access Feb 13, 2012 8:59 AM
41 Politics & Fear Feb 13, 2012 8:17 AM
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42 public land near streams Feb 13, 2012 7:25 AM
43 Limited municipal budgets; leaders that do not see the "bigger picture"; lack of Feb 13, 2012 7:10 AM experience in community development
44 Posted Land- Unwillingness of proerty Owners to allow access to streams. Feb 13, 2012 5:47 AM
45 N.Y.City Feb 12, 2012 6:55 PM
46 lack of access Feb 12, 2012 5:05 PM
47 $; flooding Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM
48 posted land Feb 12, 2012 4:57 PM
49 POSTED SIGNS! Feb 12, 2012 4:36 PM
50 road to stream access, area for parking Feb 12, 2012 4:28 PM
51 axcess Feb 12, 2012 3:46 PM
52 Private landowners posting their lands,. Posting prevents all outdoor sports in Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM the area. And posted lands that border streams, not only to prevent fishing but any water sport, as well as hiking and mountain biking along them. When lands are posted, kids are denied access to hills on which they can sled in the winter.
53 posting of lands Feb 12, 2012 3:15 PM
54 posting Feb 12, 2012 2:45 PM
55 Political will. Feb 12, 2012 1:53 PM
56 Property owners unwilling to grant fishing easements. Feb 12, 2012 1:18 PM
57 Private property. Feb 12, 2012 1:12 PM
58 illegal posted signs- along the rivers & streams. Feb 12, 2012 1:09 PM
59 private property rights and wealthy ownership not allowing access privat5e clubs Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM
60 Not sure Feb 12, 2012 12:23 PM
61 not knowing where public access is. Some places not legally posted or not Feb 12, 2012 12:16 PM posted by the legal landowner
62 Financing & private ownership Feb 12, 2012 11:39 AM
63 Privately owner, posted land Feb 12, 2012 11:34 AM
64 public access, landowner reluctance to sell public fishing rights or state not Feb 12, 2012 10:36 AM
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acquiring rights because of current excuse or excuses
65 I see use of streams feeding the reservoirs as being limited by NYC for water Feb 12, 2012 10:31 AM purity reasons.
66 Private property and watershed access restrictions Feb 12, 2012 9:50 AM
67 Lack of vision/creativity. Feb 12, 2012 9:38 AM
68 Local indifference, posted land, high tax rates Feb 12, 2012 8:53 AM
69 posted waters Feb 12, 2012 8:30 AM
70 The DEP. Feb 12, 2012 8:27 AM
71 steepness of the slopes of Pepacton-i.e., access problems Feb 12, 2012 8:22 AM
72 ONE good piece of printed material or website that has clear accurate directions Feb 12, 2012 8:17 AM to the sites. This does not exist for hiking trails in the area.
73 Large private landowners. Lack of understanding or imagination about summer Feb 2, 2012 6:41 PM recreation in the Catskills.
74 Landowners and DEP rules. Feb 2, 2012 4:39 PM
75 Private property Jan 18, 2012 5:01 AM
76 Clearing the terrain,to make it more accessible.Elderly people like to fish,and it is Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM a very rough haul to get to and from the reservoir.
77 Handicap access Jan 17, 2012 1:54 PM
78 Prohibition of any non-polluting boat other than metal rowboats (such as non- Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM polluting pedal boats for the handicapped). Requirement to leave the boat on the side of the reservoir instead of having approved launch sites.
79 signage, who pays for? and abuse on private property that hurts this over time Jan 17, 2012 11:33 AM
80 DEP & the city of ny attitudes toward the people who live work & pay taxes here. Jan 17, 2012 10:29 AM
81 private property Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM
82 public access rights and parking Jan 12, 2012 8:36 AM
83 Lack of parking and clearly marked access points that are safe for people of all Sep 10, 2011 7:12 AM ages to access.
84 indifference. Towns and villages (probably) see no advantage to have people Sep 4, 2011 4:24 PM using the streams for recreation....and most stream banks are private property....
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85 River is blocked by fallen trees, tires and shallows. Sep 2, 2011 8:20 AM
86 DEP approval Aug 26, 2011 5:18 PM
87 NYC Watershed rules Jul 27, 2011 7:08 PM
88 Private land ownership. Jul 27, 2011 7:20 AM
89 New York City. Jul 23, 2011 5:07 AM
90 Lack of information, knowing where to go, where to park, etc. Jul 22, 2011 3:03 PM
91 posting/controlled useage Jun 28, 2011 9:54 AM
92 Difficult access. No signage. Not clear if I can go into the water. Unsure of Jun 11, 2011 1:16 PM regulations.
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City/Town: 91.9% 68
Email Address: 98.6% 73
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Name: Howard Van Loan May 21, 2012 1:06 PM
City/Town: Denver May 21, 2012 1:06 PM
Email Address: [email protected] May 21, 2012 1:06 PM
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Name: Dorothy Maffei May 21, 2012 8:18 AM
City/Town: New Kingston May 21, 2012 8:18 AM
Email Address: [email protected] May 21, 2012 8:18 AM
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Name: nadine tischmacher May 21, 2012 5:53 AM
City/Town: marbaretville May 21, 2012 5:53 AM
Email Address: [email protected] May 21, 2012 5:53 AM
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Name: Pine Hollow Lodging May 20, 2012 1:26 PM
City/Town: Margaretville May 20, 2012 1:26 PM
Email Address: [email protected] May 20, 2012 1:26 PM
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Name: dan spadaro May 14, 2012 7:32 PM
City/Town: downsville May 14, 2012 7:32 PM
Email Address: [email protected] May 14, 2012 7:32 PM
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Name: Dr. Wayne Sygman May 10, 2012 4:42 PM
City/Town: Shokan May 10, 2012 4:42 PM
Email Address: [email protected] May 10, 2012 4:42 PM
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Email Address: [email protected] May 10, 2012 9:02 AM
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Name: Snapper Petta May 10, 2012 8:21 AM
City/Town: Milford, NY May 10, 2012 8:21 AM
Email Address: [email protected] May 10, 2012 8:21 AM
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Name: armin urban May 2, 2012 8:28 PM
City/Town: Hallcottsville May 2, 2012 8:28 PM
Email Address: [email protected] May 2, 2012 8:28 PM
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Name: Denis McLane Apr 27, 2012 8:37 AM
City/Town: Margaretville Apr 27, 2012 8:37 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Apr 27, 2012 8:37 AM
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Name: Glen Pedersen Apr 25, 2012 7:33 AM
City/Town: Roxbury Apr 25, 2012 7:33 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Apr 25, 2012 7:33 AM
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Name: Dina Kaliko Apr 1, 2012 3:21 PM
City/Town: Fleischmanns Apr 1, 2012 3:21 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Apr 1, 2012 3:21 PM
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Name: Norman barabash Mar 20, 2012 4:33 PM
City/Town: Andes Mar 20, 2012 4:33 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Mar 20, 2012 4:33 PM
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Name: LENNY MILLEN Mar 18, 2012 11:09 AM
City/Town: MARGARETVILLE N.Y. Mar 18, 2012 11:09 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Mar 18, 2012 11:09 AM
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Name: Tara Collins Mar 6, 2012 3:25 PM
City/Town: Meredith Mar 6, 2012 3:25 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Mar 6, 2012 3:25 PM
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Name: Eric Wedemeyer Mar 4, 2012 7:25 PM
City/Town: Margaretville, ny Mar 4, 2012 7:25 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Mar 4, 2012 7:25 PM
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Email Address: [email protected] Mar 2, 2012 2:33 PM
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Name: George Sole Feb 27, 2012 7:19 AM
City/Town: Pine Hill Feb 27, 2012 7:19 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 27, 2012 7:19 AM
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Name: Alan Seidman Feb 26, 2012 12:17 PM
City/Town: Andes Feb 26, 2012 12:17 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 26, 2012 12:17 PM
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Name: George Sole Feb 26, 2012 10:16 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 26, 2012 10:16 AM
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Email Address: [email protected] Feb 23, 2012 12:02 PM
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Name: Janet Winnie Feb 22, 2012 1:50 PM
City/Town: Margaretville Feb 22, 2012 1:50 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 22, 2012 1:50 PM
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Name: Elizabeth Kemble Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM
City/Town: Halcottsville Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM
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Email Address: [email protected] Feb 20, 2012 8:41 AM
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Name: Peter Marx Feb 20, 2012 8:41 AM
City/Town: Margaretville Feb 20, 2012 8:41 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 20, 2012 8:41 AM
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Name: Todd Spire Feb 20, 2012 5:54 AM
City/Town: Phoenicia Feb 20, 2012 5:54 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 20, 2012 5:54 AM
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Name: Kowalski Feb 19, 2012 1:34 PM
City/Town: Denver,ny Feb 19, 2012 1:34 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 19, 2012 1:34 PM
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Name: Nancy Amy Feb 18, 2012 7:11 PM
City/Town: Halcott Center Feb 18, 2012 7:11 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 18, 2012 7:11 PM
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Name: Steven Fisher Feb 16, 2012 5:25 PM
City/Town: Margaretville Feb 16, 2012 5:25 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 16, 2012 5:25 PM
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Name: bill birns Feb 16, 2012 8:02 AM
City/Town: fleischmanns Feb 16, 2012 8:02 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 16, 2012 8:02 AM
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Name: Ann Roberti Feb 16, 2012 6:22 AM
City/Town: Andes,NY Feb 16, 2012 6:22 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 16, 2012 6:22 AM
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Email Address: [email protected] Feb 15, 2012 9:32 AM
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Name: Dale Hughes Feb 14, 2012 9:00 AM
City/Town: Woodstock Feb 14, 2012 9:00 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 14, 2012 9:00 AM
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Name: Jan Joroff Feb 14, 2012 2:31 AM
City/Town: Arkville Feb 14, 2012 2:31 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 14, 2012 2:31 AM
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Name: Trudy Sheldon Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM
City/Town: Kelly Corners Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM
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Name: Steven Sugarman Feb 13, 2012 9:29 AM
City/Town: Downsville Feb 13, 2012 9:29 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 13, 2012 9:29 AM
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Name: akira odani Feb 13, 2012 9:19 AM
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City/Town: andes Feb 13, 2012 9:19 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 13, 2012 9:19 AM
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Name: john exter Feb 13, 2012 8:31 AM
City/Town: new kingston Feb 13, 2012 8:31 AM
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Name: HERA Feb 13, 2012 8:18 AM
City/Town: Bearsville Feb 13, 2012 8:18 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 13, 2012 8:18 AM
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Name: Velga Kundzins Feb 13, 2012 7:11 AM
City/Town: Grand Gorge, NY Feb 13, 2012 7:11 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 13, 2012 7:11 AM
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Name: Ronald Botin Feb 13, 2012 5:48 AM
City/Town: Albany Feb 13, 2012 5:48 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 13, 2012 5:48 AM
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Name: Jack Doig Feb 12, 2012 6:56 PM
City/Town: Andes Feb 12, 2012 6:56 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 6:56 PM
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Name: Jack Jordan Feb 12, 2012 5:06 PM
City/Town: Pine Hill Feb 12, 2012 5:06 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 5:06 PM
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Name: Chris Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM
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City/Town: Trumansburg Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM
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Name: Paul Robilotti Feb 12, 2012 4:37 PM
City/Town: Binghamton Feb 12, 2012 4:37 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 4:37 PM
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Name: Lorraine Dunham Feb 12, 2012 4:30 PM
City/Town: Halcottsville,NY Feb 12, 2012 4:30 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 4:30 PM
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Name: don stauss Feb 12, 2012 3:47 PM
City/Town: highland ny Feb 12, 2012 3:47 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 3:47 PM
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Name: John Mordock Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM
City/Town: Poughkeepsie, NY Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM
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Name: Mike walchko Feb 12, 2012 2:46 PM
City/Town: Cobleskill Feb 12, 2012 2:46 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 2:46 PM
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Name: michael suchorsky Feb 12, 2012 1:54 PM
City/Town: Andes Feb 12, 2012 1:54 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 1:54 PM
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Name: Greg Belcamino Feb 12, 2012 1:18 PM
City/Town: Stone Ridge, NY Feb 12, 2012 1:18 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 1:18 PM
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Name: Earl Albright Feb 12, 2012 1:12 PM
City/Town: Delhi Feb 12, 2012 1:12 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 1:12 PM
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Name: Jim Littlefoot Feb 12, 2012 1:10 PM
City/Town: New Paltz NY 12561 Feb 12, 2012 1:10 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 1:10 PM
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Name: Tom Brown Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM
City/Town: Equinunk Pa. Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM
Email Address: tomtrout @verizon.net Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM
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Name: Ed Kranz Feb 12, 2012 12:29 PM
City/Town: Delhi Feb 12, 2012 12:29 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 12:29 PM
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Name: Paul Shultz Feb 12, 2012 12:23 PM
City/Town: Livingston Manor Feb 12, 2012 12:23 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 12:23 PM
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Name: tony cocozza Feb 12, 2012 12:16 PM
City/Town: boiceville Feb 12, 2012 12:16 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 12:16 PM
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Name: Mark Loete Feb 12, 2012 11:40 AM
City/Town: Chichester Feb 12, 2012 11:40 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 11:40 AM
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Name: rick roberts Feb 12, 2012 11:35 AM
City/Town: hamden Feb 12, 2012 11:35 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 11:35 AM
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Name: walt keller Feb 12, 2012 10:36 AM
City/Town: stamford, NY 12167 Feb 12, 2012 10:36 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 10:36 AM
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Name: Steve Berg Feb 12, 2012 10:32 AM
City/Town: Andes Feb 12, 2012 10:32 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 10:32 AM
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Name: BARRY GRAGG Feb 12, 2012 10:14 AM
City/Town: Colchester Feb 12, 2012 10:14 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 10:14 AM
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Name: peg dibenedetto Feb 12, 2012 9:39 AM
City/Town: Halcott Feb 12, 2012 9:39 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 12, 2012 9:39 AM
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Name: jennifer kabat Feb 12, 2012 8:27 AM
City/Town: margaretville Feb 12, 2012 8:27 AM
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Name: David Stegemoller Feb 2, 2012 4:39 PM
City/Town: Arkville Feb 2, 2012 4:39 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Feb 2, 2012 4:39 PM
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City/Town: downsville Jan 17, 2012 2:24 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Jan 17, 2012 2:24 PM
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Name: Mary Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM
City/Town: Margaretville Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM
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Name: Burr Hubbell Jan 17, 2012 11:06 AM
City/Town: Margaretville Jan 17, 2012 11:06 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Jan 17, 2012 11:06 AM
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Name: thomas newman Jan 17, 2012 10:30 AM
City/Town: new kingston ny Jan 17, 2012 10:30 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Jan 17, 2012 10:30 AM
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Name: Michele Cassans Sep 10, 2011 7:13 AM
City/Town: Margaretville Sep 10, 2011 7:13 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Sep 10, 2011 7:13 AM
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Name: Robert Axelrod Sep 4, 2011 4:25 PM
City/Town: Halcott Center Sep 4, 2011 4:25 PM
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Name: Allen Hinkley Jul 27, 2011 7:09 PM
City/Town: Robury Jul 27, 2011 7:09 PM
Email Address: [email protected] Jul 27, 2011 7:09 PM
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Name: Lorraine Truran Jul 23, 2011 5:07 AM
City/Town: Halcottville Jul 23, 2011 5:07 AM
Email Address: [email protected] Jul 23, 2011 5:07 AM
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Name: tony bonavist Jun 28, 2011 9:55 AM
City/Town: hurley, ny Jun 28, 2011 9:55 AM
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2012 East Branch Business Owner Online Survey - Results
A Business Owner Survey was created by the Central Catskills Chamber of Commerce and posted to the EastBranchAccess.com website for six months (July – December 2012). Twenty-four business owners completed the survey and the results are included herein.
To briefly summarize the results, the majority of the business owners that completed the survey were in the Margaretville Area and 72% indicated that they target “tourist/traveler” with their advertising and 59% also target “full time” and “part-time residents”. More than 85% use “website/email” for advertising, and similarly 62% use “social media” as well. More than 95% of the respondents indicated that they “have time to get to know customers”, which indicates that these business owners have a very good sense of what their clientele needs, wants, and expects.
All of the respondents (22) that answered the question “are your customers interested in recreational activities” said “yes” (100%). The type of recreation that most customers were interested in was “Hiking” (94%), followed by “Scheduled Weekend Activities” and “Skiing” (89%), followed by “Biking” (78%), and then “Family Events” (72%). “Kayaking and Canoeing the Reservoirs” and “Bird Watching” rounded out the top half of the list with 66% each.
One of the most important pieces gleaned from this survey was how business owners ascertain information realted to recreational activities and events. Over 72% indicated that they do so from “websites”.
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Identify your business type:
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Recreation-based business: outfitter, 8.3% 2 licensed guide
Retail based on outdoor recreation: 8.3% 2 outfitter, ski shop, bike or boat rentals
Restaurant: café, full-service w/bar, 8.3% 2 pizza
Take-out food: packaged meals, 0.0% 0 snacks
Liquor Store 0.0% 0
Supermarket 0.0% 0
Real Estate 8.3% 2
Destination Resort 0.0% 0
Camp Grounds 0.0% 0
Lodging: B&B, Motel, Camp for RV, 29.2% 7 Hostel
Lodging: full-service with meals, 0.0% 0 activities
Service: Gas, Convenience Store 0.0% 0
Retail: Misc. 0.0% 0
Arts/Galleries/Crafts 8.3% 2
Professional: Insurance, Banking, 16.7% 4 Utilities
Marketing/Advertising/Communications 4.2% 1
Theater/Movies 4.2% 1
Music/Entertainment 4.2% 1
1 of 2 Non-Profit: Regional 25.0% 6
AnsweredQuestion 24
SkippedQuestion 0
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Town/Village
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Roxbury 14.3% 3
Grand Gorge 4.8% 1
Halcottsville 0.0% 0
Kelly Corners 0.0% 0
Margaretville 42.9% 9
Arkville 9.5% 2
Dunraven 0.0% 0
New Kingston 4.8% 1
Fleischmanns 19.0% 4
Andes 4.8% 1
AnsweredQuestion 21
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Business is Open / Employees:
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Full-time 90.9% 20
Part-time 9.1% 2
Retirement Business 0.0% 0
Seasonal Business (summer) 9.1% 2
Seasonal Business (winter) 0.0% 0
Home-Based 22.7% 5
Single Operator 40.9% 9
1-3 Employees 31.8% 7
4-6 Employees 9.1% 2
Over 7 Employees 18.2% 4
Other (please specify/comments) 3
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Customers?:
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Full-time 77.3% 17
Part-time 40.9% 9
Seasonal (Summer) 27.3% 6
Seasonal (Winter) 22.7% 5
Seasonal (Recreation Related) 31.8% 7
Seasonal (Weddings) 27.3% 6
Seasonal (Family/Friend Visits) 31.8% 7
Seasonal (Event Based) 40.9% 9
Other (please specify) 2
AnsweredQuestion 22
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Do you have a marketing and advertising budget?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Yes 91.3% 21
No 8.7% 2
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If yes, approximately how much do you spend on marketing and advertising annually?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
$100 - $500 23.8% 5
$501 - $1,000 19.0% 4
More than $1,000 57.1% 12
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Who is your target market for advertising?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Age Specific 18.2% 4
Tourist/Traveler 72.7% 16
Full time Resident 59.1% 13
Part time Resident 59.1% 13
Outdoors Market 27.3% 6
Other (please specify) 2
AnsweredQuestion 22
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Where do you spend your advertising budget?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Print Ads Locally 71.4% 15
Word of Mouth 61.9% 13
Group Advertising 14.3% 3
Posters 23.8% 5
Direct Mail Campaigns 23.8% 5
Brochures 38.1% 8
Social Media 61.9% 13
Website/Email 85.7% 18
Mobile Users 14.3% 3
□ 0.0% 0
Other (please specify) 8
AnsweredQuestion 21
SkippedQuestion 3
1 of 1 8. “Other” responses to “Where do you spend your advertising budget?” Online Newspaper (WP) events, regional magazines Public Access Cable radio -wiox radio Google AdWords radio Radio East Branch Delaware Business Survey
Do you have time to get to know your customers?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Yes 95.7% 22
No 4.3% 1
AnsweredQuestion 23
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If so, has it made a difference in what you offer your customers or changed your business in anyway?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Yes 81.0% 17
No 19.0% 4
Other comments: 2
AnsweredQuestion 21
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Are your customers interested in recreational activities?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Yes 100.0% 22
No 0.0% 0
Other comments: 3
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What recreational activities are they interested in?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Kayaking on East Branch Stream 55.6% 10
Kayaking on the reservoirs 66.7% 12
Canoeing on East Branch Stream 55.6% 10
Canoeing on the reservoirs 61.1% 11
Hiking 94.4% 17
Biking 77.8% 14
Skiing 88.9% 16
Bird Watching 66.7% 12
Public Swimming Pools 44.4% 8
Ponds and Swimming Holes 61.1% 11
Star Gazing 61.1% 11
Planned events 61.1% 11
Scheduled Weekend of Events 88.9% 16
Scheduled Weekend including 44.4% 8 lodging and food
Guided Activities 55.6% 10
Geo-Caching 22.2% 4
Family Events 72.2% 13
Other (please specify) 5
AnsweredQuestion 18
SkippedQuestion 6
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12. “Other responses for “What recreational activities are they interested in?” weekend getaways, agricultural based activities Tennis and golf. The customers we see face to face are generally in the Hudson Valley and they have NO idea where Margaretville, Arkville, etc are located. They have no clue what we have to offer. They hike, bike, boat, love arts.... they just don't know wat exists up here. AND they have money to spend. to varying degrees, all of the above fishing East Branch Delaware Business Survey
What types of information services do you use, on a regular basis, to learn about recreational access along the East Branch of the Delaware and other local stream corridors?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Marketing/Advertising to potential 40.9% 9 tourists
Signage 45.5% 10
Easily found printed material such 50.0% 11 as maps, brochures
Websites related to recreational 72.7% 16 access
Cell-phone connections 9.1% 2
Lodging and Restaurants 9.1% 2
Amenities: Public Bathrooms 4.5% 1
Outfitters: rentals and equipment 22.7% 5 sales
Condition of Roadways 0.0% 0
Lack of Informational Kiosks 0.0% 0
Other (please specify) 22.7% 5
AnsweredQuestion 22
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Would you participate in discounted promotional campaign to draw customers to your business that are traveling for recreation in the Catskills?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
yes 81.0% 17
No 19.0% 4
AnsweredQuestion 21
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Would you collaborate with other businesses to create a package deal or coupon booklet for outdoor recreation such as lodging, guided services, rentals and meals?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Yes 85.0% 17
No 15.0% 3
AnsweredQuestion 20
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Would you be willing and able to offer mid-week specials to increase revenue?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Yes 73.7% 14
No 26.3% 5
AnsweredQuestion 19
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Would you offer a seasonal deal such as buy one at regular price, get the next two/three at discount?
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
Yes 68.4% 13
No 31.6% 6
AnsweredQuestion 19
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Please give us your top three requests that would help your business grow and benefit from the outdoor recreational access opportunities in and around your town or village along the East Branch Stream corridor.
ResponsePercent ResponseCount
1. 100.0% 14
2. 78.6% 11
3. 57.1% 8
AnsweredQuestion 14
SkippedQuestion 10
1 of 1 18. Please give us your top three requests that would help your business grow and benefit from the outdoor recreational access opportunities in and around your town or village along the East Branch Stream corridor.
#1- More coomunication with potential tourists and outside the region visitors connecting great food after a day hiking the hills/boating the reservoirs East Branch from Gilboa to Margaretville Arts and Recreational Tour Maps transportation to and from sites Less encroachment by NYSDEC and NYSDEP officials while legally fishing The Crossroads/Belleayre Project The area does not exist to people. We hear it every week many, many times. We need a HUGE marketing campaign. modern lodging clear updates, easily found and accessible, email lists etc. Get more businesses collaborating on packages I thought opening the reservoirs would but this is the worse year I have ever had (down at least 66%) shuttle service to and from the lakes downstate advertising
#2- connecting local busineses with clean drinking water for NYC (we're your watershed, foodshed and viewshed) Dry Brook Route 28 Billboards activities that could be introduced into the MCS Physical Education program (kayaking, trout fishing,water safety, life guarding certification, etc) Direct marketing campaig into NYC By huge, I mean a few simple things.... not at a huge cost. A hip video of someone on a kayak, fishing, eating at our local restaurants, hiking, visiting the farmers market. Facebook can make a huge impact when done correctly. bike and jogging trails Get everyone to use the same branding a trail that leads to the Pepacton waters edge—I have proposed an excellent trail to the DEP on the Flynn Brook tract but there has been no response fishing instructors marketing through spokespersons giving metro nyc residents information about the recreational opportunities
#3- make it simple & easy to find Trempers Kill Mid-Hudson Valley marketing for day trippers We want to host events, meals, hikes, etc on our farm in Dry Brook but feel our area of the Catskills needs to be more visable. We'd love to help however we can swimming and power boat use of Pepacton Get more reservoirs involved getting permission from the State and NYC to clear a few SMALL areas on the hilltops to offer a view. THIS IS A PAYOFF THAT HIKERS WANT! pool “Collaborating With Businesses: Current Status and Future Potential”
A Critical Component to Maximizing Recreational Access in the Upper East Branch region of the Delaware River
The long term success of the utilizing the natural resources that are provided by the Upper East Branch of the Delaware and its watershed lands as a cornerstone, if not the foundation for the local economy lies significantly in the hands of many local business owners and local officials.
Between the East Branch headwaters of Grand Gorge and the impoundment that holds back the largest of all City- owned reservoirs, the Downsville Dam, lie five critical business areas, two villages and three hamlets. In order of size (population wise), they include Margaretville (596), Fleischmanns (351), and the hamlets of Andes (252), Roxbury and Arkville. There are others, such as Halcott Center, New Kingston, Denver, and Halcott, but the first five, no one would argue, are the lifeblood of the local economy. The vast majority of the businesses that provide the basis for the local economy are situated in these five locations.
Throughout this enhanced recreational access project, the major critical business owners have either participated by attending meetings, have participated by completing survey(s) and engaging in conversation at one or more of the festivals and other events where input was solicited, or have chosen not to participate.
Some of the critical business owners that have been a key component of the Enhanced Recreational Access Group include: Allen Hinkley - Roxbury Outdoor Adventures, Dave Budin, Dell’s Sports, Al Carpenter - Al’s Sports Store, Sonny Somelofski - Catskill Outdoor Adventures, Peter Molnar - Margaretville Motel / Margaretville B&B, Craig Appolito - Catskill Outback Adventures, and Russ Matson - The Meadows Golf Center.
Some additional Key Business owners that have answered our surveys and have been interviewed include: Jennifer Cole - Catskill Mountain View House, Julia Reischel - Watershed Post, Eric Wedemeyer - Coldwell Banker Timberland Properties, Marybeth Mills - Peekamoose Restaurant, Michael Koegel - Mama’s Boy Market, Sally and Ed O’Neill - Andes Hotel, Janine Stegemoller – Pepacton Paddles, Leigh Melander – Spillian Partners, and Ben Fenton - River Run B&B.
2012 East Branch Business Owner Online Survey A Business Owner Survey was created by the Central Catskills Chamber of Commerce and posted to the EastBranchAccess.com website for six months (July – December 2012). Twenty-four business owners completed the survey and the results can be obtained by emailing [email protected] or at www.EastBranchAccess.com.
To briefly summarize the results, the majority of the business owners that completed the survey were in the Margaretville Area and 72% indicated that they target “tourist/traveler” with their advertising and 59% also target “full time” and “part-time residents”. More than 85% use “website/email” for advertising, and similarly 62% use “social media” as well. More than 95% of the respondents indicated that they “have time to get to know customers”, which indicates that these business owners have a very good sense of what their clientele needs, wants, and expects.
All of the respondents (22) that answered the question “are your customers interested in recreational activities” said “yes” (100%). The type of recreation that most customers were interested in was “Hiking” (94%), followed by “Scheduled Weekend Activities” and “Skiing” (89%), followed by “Biking” (78%), and then “Family Events” (72%). “Kayaking and Canoeing the Reservoirs” and “Bird Watching” rounded out the top half of the list with 66% each.
One of the most important pieces gleaned from this survey was how business owners ascertain information realted to recreational activities and events. Over 72% indicated that they do so from “websites”. The absence or at least the inadequacy of such online information for the watershed area was identified early on in the East Branch Access project, and a website has since been created, but needs to be enhanced.
Post-Pepacton Reservoir Pilot Boating Program Regional Business Owner Feedback Additionally, on November 19, 2012, an email was sent to twenty-eight (28) “key” businesses at the conclusion of the Pepacton Reservoir boating season to gather feedback on the success of this initiative. Eight business owners responded directly to this inquiry, while another four provided feedback in person. The full results of this less-formal inquiry have been attached to this report.
A brief summary of the responses to the four questions provided this feedback:
Question #1: Do you know (or suspect) that the majority of your patrons regularly participate in outdoor recreational activities in the Catskill Mountains? - Overwhelmingly, the response was “yes”.
Question #2: Would you expect that a portion of those from Question 1 go kayaking/canoeing/sailboating in the region? - Most agreed it is hard to estimate how many, but suspect that a portion do. Since permitting changes (i.e. boating on the reservoirs), the consensus was that there is more of this kind of activity in the region.
Question #3: Between Memorial Day and Columbus Day weekends in 2012, did you notice an up-tick (from previous years) in vehicles with canoes/kayaks in your parking lot? If so, can you estimate a percent increase? - Consensus was a slight increase, maybe on the order of 10% to be conservative. It was mentioned that things, like this new program, take time to catch on and develop.
Question #4: Between Memorial Day and Columbus Day weekends in 2012, did you notice an increase in your clientele that you would categorize as outdoor enthusiasts? If so, is it possible to estimate a percentage specific to recreational boating, and if so, what percent? - Increase is business overall was noted, but really impossible to estimate a percentage specific to the new boating program.
A Well-Coordinated, Well-Represented, and Collaborative Future Over the last several years, it seems as though some of the stars have been aligning, and critical pieces of the puzzle have begun to fall into place - leading to what should be a more robust, coordinated, accessible, and available outdoor recreational agenda and effort. These pieces include things like the NYCDEP opening up four reservoirs this summer to a resounding positive response by the public; the new NYSDOT brown and white signs along state highways in and near the Catskill Park, which now help people not only access hiking, camping, fishing, and parking areas, but also begins to create not only an identity for the region but also a visual awareness of the plethora of outdoor recreational opportunities that exist. These new Catskill Park signs have had a positive impact as a visual reminder that people are traveling through a special place worthy of exploring and stopping to stay awhile.
While these signs are focused primarily on the NYSDEC lands, specifically within the Catskill Forest Preserve, the look and feel can be expanded throughout neighboring communities on the periphery, such as the villages and hamlets in the upper East Branch Delaware region. There are many accessible destinations in Delaware County and the upper East Branch watershed that could take advantage of this unifying symbol.
Experience Matters Once residents and visitors are made aware of where they can go and what they can do once they get “there” (trail, river, lake, campground, etc), the next component of a successful business model or collaboration is to ensure that the information they are given is accurate - meaning their expectations will be met or exceeded throughout their Catskill region experience. This piece is critical.
There are countless examples of local businesses, agencies, and organizations that often use “open-source” images to depict our natural resources: the mountain peaks, the streams, the waterbodies, and even wildlife. This approach should clearly be avoided as there are many opportunities to use local images. Not only does this approach detract from creating a sense of place for the region, but in some instances this mentality may creep into the day-to-day functions of the establishment, agency or organization, eroding the connection to “place”. Over time, this erosion may very well manifest itself in the clientele who have come to the region to experience the “place”.
Don’t Forget the Locals! While the chambers of commerce are focused on expanding tourism and to improve economic opportunities for our businesses by increasing visibility and getting ‘heads in beds’, an under-appreciated audience in the region may very well be the local residents. By encouraging local residents of our communities to enjoy, utilize, and steward over these places that offer public access, they will in-turn appreciate how unique and special their natural assets are, and how critical access to them throughout the East Branch Delaware watershed is to the future of Grand Gorge, Roxbury, Margaretville, Fleischmanns, Arkville, New Kingston, and Andes. By sharing our natural assets and being advocates for their expansion, use, and promotion – whether it be by a vote for some new initiative or simply a conversation with an out-of-towner in the Freshtown parking lot, our residents play an integral role in expanding access to, and business opportunities centered around, these resources.
December 2012 Outdoor Recreation Round Table Discussion The Central Catskills Chamber of Commerce (CCCC) hosted a Round Table Discussion about Outdoor Recreation and 2013 planning on December 5th at the eCenter in Margaretville. All of the associations and chambers in the East Branch Delaware communities, including Andes Works, ShopMargaretville, Longwood Business Association in Roxbury, Fleischmanns First, were invited, as well as key people from the neighboring West Branch Delaware and Esopus Creek watersheds.
In setting up this discussion, it was evident that for many this would not be a new conversation. It is known that local recreational opportunities have been available for decades if not for generations. But we have also known that for most residents and visitors, getting out to enjoy our natural assets - be it for hiking, boating or bicycling, it has been an adventure to find out how, where and what was available.
The twenty-three (23) attendees of the meeting included people representing the following: Central Catskills Chamber of Commerce, Catskill Outback Adventures, Pepacton Paddles, Catskill Mountain Cycling, Delaware Headwaters Initiative, NYCDEP, WIOX, CWC, NYSDEC, Shandaken Recreation Committee, Water Discovery Center, the Town of Shandaken; Catskill Mountain Club, Andes Works, Margaretville Memorial Hospital Wellness Committee, Blue Deer Center, NY-NJ Trail Conference, Delaware County Tourism, and Margaretville Lodging Inc.
There were two main themes that came out of the meeting: the need for a de-briefing about the Pepacton Reservoir Recreational Boating program, and the notion of creating a master calendar of outdoor recreational events, activities, and festivals for 2013. To further expand the Pepacton’s impact on the local economy, the NYCDEP was very supportive of the addition of another launch sites in 2013, and ultimately did create one near Perch Lake Road on the northern shore. Additionally, the language for the recreational rules and regulations may be updated to allow a wider use of NYC lands by licensed guides (boating, hiking, etc).
This new group decided to develop a master list of events (outdoor- related) to hold every weekend throughout the year. This is meant to complement the major festivals, fairs, etc that are held annually (Street Fests, Shandaken Day, Margaretville carnival, etc) between Memorial Day and Labor Day weekends. The Central Catskills Chamber of Commerce agreed to make a calendar of all of the major fairs/festivals that occur in the region with the intent of this outdoor recreation group filling in the gaps with outdoor-related events.
This group met at least one more time, and plans to continue to meet and pull together events and will be asking for other groups to come on board to not only work on the calendar, but also to create a sense of regionalism in the Central Catskills. Moving forward, this group will play an important role in advocating for outdoor recreation in the region, and being the voice of how critical it is to the future of the Central Catskill region.
Pepacton Reservoir Recreational Boating Program In 2008 DEP developed a three year pilot program for recreational boating on the Cannonsville Reservoir. The program’s success resulted in the expansion of the program to the Neversink, Pepacton and Schoharie Reservoirs. In 2012 recreational boats including, kayaks, canoes, rowboats, sculls or sail boats were permitted on all four reservoirs. The goal of the program is to expand regional recreational opportunities for watershed residents and visitors and promote environmentally sound economic development1.
Usage Statistics for NYCDEP Recreational Boating for 2012: A total of 983 tags were issued on the four NYC reservoirs that were open for recreational boating in 2012. Of the boat tags, 45% went to individuals from outside of the NYC Watershed and 10% went to individuals from outside of New York State.
The tags issued included 697 for kayaks, 241 canoes, 31 rowboats, two sculls, and 12 small sailboats. Tags were issued to 70 individuals from New York City as well as boaters hailing from Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Ohio, North Carolina, Georgia, Kansas and Florida.
The Pepacton Reservoir was far and away the most popular – with over 650 permits issued.
List of Steam Cleaning vendors in the East Branch Delaware Watershed:
Al’s Sport Store – (607) 363-7740 ; 6964 River Road; Downsville, NY 13755; www.alssportstore.com Hogan’s General Store – (845) 676-3470; 103 Main Street; Andes, NY 13731; [email protected] Catskills Adventures & Tours– (845) 586-4464; 42480 State Highway 28; Margaretville, NY 12455; [email protected] Pepacton Bait & Tackle – (845) 750-5061; 43005 Rte 28; Arkville, NY 12406; Pepacton Paddles – (845) 586-2055; 213 Fair Street; Margaretville, NY 12455; [email protected] Above Pepacton Waters – (845) 586-1534; 333 Close Hollow Road; Margaretville, NY 12455
United States Adventure Racing Association National Championship on Pepacton Reservoir (October 2012)
Text taken directly from 10/15/12 NYCDEP press release(http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/press_releases/12-69pr.shtml)
The New York City Department of Environmental Protection this past weekend hosted the 2012 United States Adventure Racing Association (USARA) National Championships on the Pepacton Reservoir, in Delaware County. More than 165 competitors from around the nation kicked off the 30-hour, 100 mile race with a 12-mile canoe paddle during which racers navigated a series of checkpoints on the reservoir. Competitors then raced along an obstacle-course-like route hiking, cycling, navigating by compass, and rappelling down rock faces over the 100-mile course. The race ended at the Hudson Valley Resort in Kerhonkson, Ulster County. The event marks the first time the Reservoir has been opened for an adventure racing competition.
In 2009, DEP launched a recreational boating pilot program on the Cannonsville Reservoir. This year, DEP expanded the program to the Neversink, Pepacton and, Schoharie reservoirs. Prior to 2009, only metal rowboats with DEP issued tags were allowed on the reservoirs and only for fishing. The 2012 boating season was the most successful to date. This year, DEP issued nearly 1,000 boat tags, of which 45 percent went to individuals from outside of the watershed and 10 percent went to individuals from outside of New York State. The strong boating season was a boon to local businesses that steam clean the boats and to those that provide tourism related services.
“The expanded recreational boating program has opened the doors for opportunities like the USARA National Championship in which hundreds of participants and observers got the chance to enjoy the scenic Pepacton Reservoir as backdrop for adventure racing,” said Commissioner Strickland. “We look forward to more events like this and to working with local communities to promote recreational opportunities that help bring people to the watershed and support local businesses.”
“We are very fortunate to have been granted permission to use the Pepacton Reservoir for the paddling leg of our race,” said USARA Race Director, Rodney Villella. “The reservoir set the stage for the event and the fall colors added to the beauty of this great resource. The racers loved the paddling section and didn't let the cold and rainy weather at the start dampen their spirits. We are also very thankful that we had two DEP police boats on the water during the event making sure everyone was safe and sound.”2
The Bright Future of Recreational Boating on the Pepacton Reservoir
Need for Additional Launch Sites? The 2012 data prove that additional launch sites for recreational boating are warranted at the Pepacton Reservoir. Not only is this watebody the largest of all NYC reservoirs, it is also the most heavily used for recreational boating, by far. As part of this recreational access project, several other suitable launch sites have been identified. It is our recommendation that a number of these be re-visited to help accommodate a more evenly-distributed use of this wonderful recreational resource. In particular, the site we have identified at the intersection of Perch Lake Road and NYS Route 30 on the northern shore was ultimately developed by NYCDEP in 2013. This location, among other possibilities sites can be seen on the maps and in the Final Report.
At the time of this draft report, final usage statistics were not readily available for the 2013 season. For the final version, we will incorporate the final numbers.
Finding A Niche One problem that was identified through conversation with steam cleaning vendors was, in essence, duplication of service – in particular within the Margaretville / Arkville area. With five listed vendors within a ten-mile radius there was a situation where the market was over-saturated, certainly for the initial season. It is expected that this over-saturation of vendors will become more sustainable as the less-successful ones will either close up shop or be forced to make changes and find a niche. As these businesses seek to find that niche, the Recreational Boating program will continue to evolve as well.
Constant tweaks and changes to the program are almost certain, as with any new program. One issue that presented a problem in 2012 was the ability for local proprietors to store ‘fleet’ of already steam-cleaned vessels at a particular launch site so as to service clients in a timely fashion. It has been documented that one of the drawbacks to the recreational boating program is the time it takes to get a boat tag, which includes getting the boat cleaned. If a number of vessels are ready to go at established launch sites, established by the vendor(s), then the process will go quicker. Formalizing this approach required re-visiting NYCDEP’s Recreation Rules prior to the 2013 season. NYCDEP did their best in accommodating this, and the result has been a much smoother boating program between/among vendors.
Another aspect that was incorporated by NYCDEP in 2013 was allowing New York State licensed boating, fishing, hiking, hunting guides to ‘guide; on City-owned lands and water. This is certainly a welcomed change to the recreational rules and regulations.
Lottery Approach Needed? For NYS-licensed guides that wish to provide recreational boating or fishing on the Pepacton, a lottery system should be created annually to assign a specific launch site to all interested vendors so as to be able to provide such service to their clientele. While maybe not the most convenient for vendors, this system will encourage a more even distribution to use throughout this expansive resource, the Pepacton Reservoir. Currently, the Shavertown Bridge area not only receives the most use by fisherman and rowboat storage, but now recreational boating as well. To overuse one of the areas, particularly one as visible as this site, threatens the integrity of the program overall, and could lead to its termination.
A list of the vendors and the number of boats serviced/tags issued can be seen on the NYCDEP’s website at: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/recreation/cannonsville_boating_program.shtml
Central Catskills Great Outdoor Experience Festival The inaugural Central Catskills Great Outdoor Experience Festival was held on August 24-26, 2012 in the Village of Margaretville. It consisted of a full weekend of recreational events and activities that celebrated the natural assets and cultural history abundant in the Central Catskills. It was held again in 2013 from August 23-25.
The 2012 festival kicked-off Friday with historical exhibits, films and food. Saturday featured a festival of activities: fishing, boating, outdoor vendors, food, music and demos. Sunday featured boating on the East Branch and Pepacton Reservoir, hiking in the Catskill Park, and bicycling along country roads.
The Saturday event was centered in Margaretville where information from regional outdoor recreational and outfitter businesses and organizations showcased the many opportunities for residents and visitors to enjoy hiking, bicycling, fishing, boating, skiing and exploration of the Catskill Park and the streams and reservoirs which make up the Catskill NYC watershed region. The festival website can be seen at http://centralcatskillsgreatoutdoors.com
2012 Post-Festival Summary: (provided by Carol O’Beirne) The Central Catskills Great Outdoor Experience Festival, a new collaborative project between chambers, outdoor recreational businesses and organizations held at the end of August 2012 in the village of Margaretville which is located ideally for water related activities adjacent to its Main Street where the festival was held.
The weekend included a Star Gazing program on Friday evening presented by Jason Smolinksi, a professor at SUNY Oneonta and held in Arkville's Delaware and Ulster Train park (over 50 attended - all ages). On Saturday, well over 1,000 attended the all day events that included: demonstrations, presentations and hands-on outdoor recreation activities. Participants canoed along the East Branch of the Delaware, took a zip-line along the tree line adjacent to the Binnekill Stream and for the kids a challenge to get to the top of the climbing wall.
Over 10 organizations and agencies filled the Outdoor Recreation tent where displays and presentations were made to inform and connect to the general public about the many options and resources available. Vendors, food, music and entertainment added to the days’ amusement.
To complement the festival a series of hikes, paddles and a bicycle tour were offered both at the end of the day on Saturday and all-day Sunday. These were offered by volunteer members of the Catskill Mountain Club and the Catskill Mountains Bicycling Club. The experienced volunteers representing these organizations had groups from 10 to 20, just the right size for each activity.
Comments made by both the attendees and those guiding the events were that the public needs scheduled/organized events promoted/offered to assist the novice and/or new comer the support that they need. Many felt secure in knowing that they were with an experienced guide and everyone said that they want these types of experiences offered on a regular basis.
While the festival is important, it is also critical to not lose the outdoors focus the rest of the year (before/after festival). A series of outdoor-oriented events, or at least planning a couple of events each month that would be promoted by many local groups would go a long way towards creating a bigger impact. Additionally, the timing (August) of the outdoor festival event, perhaps, should be re-examined. The festival is too late for water-based recreation in a lot of ways (selling kayaks, streams are usually rather low, etc), yet it is still too early for skiing promotion. Perhaps the month of June might be a more appropriate time, maybe in accordance with National Trails Day, which is always the first Saturday in June.
2013 Post-Festival Summary: (provided by Carol O’Beirne) The 2013 Central Catskills Great Outdoors Festival was a great success and furthered our goals of getting people to take the opportunity to learn about the many recreational opportunities available in the central Catskills of NYS.
A new marketing strategy was used this year to expand our outreach and increase attendance at the variety of events and activities offered for the weekend of August 23 - 25 as a Central Catskills Get Away Give Away promotion. Businesses, communities and area arts organizations joined in contributing advertising dollars and cross promoting to encourage travel in and between the communities. We agreed that working together we will see increased traffic and attendance at each event.
The Central Catskills Great Outdoor Experience Festival was one of the cornerstone events with a full schedule starting on Friday night when Viewing the Night Skies through high powered telescopes was a huge success. Associate Professor for Astonomy at SUNY Oneonta brought two students and three telescoped to the lawn at the Delaware and Ulster RailRoad in Arkville. A large crowd gathered and saw such wonders as Saturn and its rings.
On Saturday the festival was held along Main Street in Margaretville with music, food and many regional environmental and outdoor organizations including: the NY/NJ Trail Conference, the Catskill Center for Conservation and Development and the Catskill Mountain Club. The chamber's tent offered updates and views of access points for our East Branch Enhanced Recreational Access project. For the first time kayaks were available for rent to be used on the Binnekill Stream and it was a most popular activity. This stream was no flowing in 2012 and it was an ideal stream for youngsters to try their hand at paddling. Catskill Outback Adventures managed this activity. The Catskill Mountains Cycling Club sponsored two bike rides - a 25 mile, and 56 mile rides, the Catskill Mountain Club sponsored a hike along the new Shavertown Trail in Andes and a Paddle on the Pepacton Reservoir, The Balsam Lake Mountain Fire Tower crew held a Geocaching at Balsam Lake Mountain event with veteran worldwide geocacher Paul Repka, and an Introduction to the Game of Golf was held at the Meadows Golf Center.
On Sunday, Kayaking on the Lake Wawaka was offered with two for the price of one tickets and the Shaolin Temple Summer Camp offered tours and demos of their martial arts youth programs.
Music and comedy at Belleayre Music Festival and RoxfestNY, train rides on the DURR and a great day of old- fashioned fun at the Annual Shandaken Day rounded out the weekend of outdoor activities and events that informed, educated and encouraged people of all ages to enjoy the Catskill Park and the pristine waterways of the streams and reservoirs which provide billions of gallons of water to NYC residents daily.
Get Out Catskills!
The first-ever Catskills Outdoor Guide was produced in August 2012 by the WatershdPost (WatershedPost.com). It was stuffed with helpful info about getting outside in the Catskills: lists of favorite hikes, a reservoir-boating how-to guide, tips on geocaching and Catskills-style urban exploration, and section about what kind of edible plants are around. It was also re-printed and re-designed in 2013, and the website was also re-vamped. Statistics for 2013 are also provided.
The online version of the Catskills Outdoors Guide had additional information that couldn't fit into the 24-page print edition, including detailed maps of hiking and biking businesses, an article by Jeff Senterman, of the New York/New Jersey Trail Conference, about how to hike the Catskills without a car, and our brand-new Catskills Badges program, which rewarded outdoors skillsmanship with real badges.
2012 Post-Production Feedback and Web Usage Results (provided by Julia Reichel) We printed 2,000 copies of the guide, and expected that at least two people would read each copy, so our estimated print reach was 4,000 unique readers.
For the online version, we expected that the guide would be read by 25,000 readers between Labor Day 2012 and Labor Day 2013. Overall, we estimated that 30,000 readers would see the guide in the calendar year that it would remain current.
Here's how we did: We distributed 1850 print guides across the Catskills region. We promoted the guide by handing out physically to about 800 people at the Central Catskills Chamber's Great Outdoor Experience Festival. We also gave stacks of guides to the Margaretville and Stamford visitors centers, the Bed & Bath Shoppe, the Catskill Forest Association, The Cheese Barrel, 768 Main, the Catskill Artisan's Guild, Arkville Bread & Breakfast, the Flour Patch, rental properties at Pine Hollow Lodging, the Cha Cha Hut, the Phoenicia Diner, and the Catskill Watershed Corporation in Margaretville. In addition to distributing it in their lobby, the CWC also mailed 100 copies of the guide to the organizers of the USARA Adventure Race National Championship to hand out to their racers, who hailed from across the country.
Online, the guide was read by 3468 unique readers between Labor Day 2012 and Dec. 6, 2012. Here's how the interest broke down by section, by unique readers: Catskills Outdoor Guide homepage 895 Adventure section 590 Boating 490 Hiking section 343 Earn Your Where the Wild Things Are Badge 325 Wild section 229 How to Paddle the Catskills Reservoirs 224 Biking section 157 Winter section 117 Hiking the Catskills Without a Car 98
Overall, the guide has been read by between 5,318 and 7,000 people. We expect to double that number between now and labor Day 2013 with online readers. It's not the 30,000 readers we estimated, but it's a good start.
2013 Post-Production Feedback and Web Usage Results (provided by Julia Reichel)
The second edition of the Catskills Outdoor Guide was published in May 2013. It was a 32page glossy magazine and a robust online companion that included originally reported articles about outdoor activities in the Catskills. The most popular article was a guide to hikes in the Catskills compiled by members of the Catskill Mountain Club. Print readership: 5,000 We printed 5,000 copies of the guide. We had initially planned to distribute those copies over the course of a year, but the bulk of them were picked up from our dozens of distribution points in the Catskills and New Jersey by the end of June. By Labor Day 2013, all 5,000 copies of the guide had been distributed.
Online readership: 8,398 Between May 24 and September 2, 2013, the Catskills Outdoor Guide was read by 8,398 unique readers.
Here's how the interest broke down by section, by unique readers: Catskills Outdoor Guide homepage 1,877 18 Great Catskills Hikes (By the Catskill Mountain Club) 1,349 Cycling resources 851 Swimming holes 641 Hiking resources 613 Photo contest 516 Tubing 445 Catskills cyclists share their favorite rides 374 Boating resources 349 Fishing 270 A guide to Boating the Catskills reservoirs 231 Hiking the Catskills without a Car 193 Horseback riding 177 Hunting 132 ATVs 113 Railroads 105 Historical Hikes 100 Skiing 62
Total online readers: 8,398
Overall print + online readership during the summer of 2013: 13,398
Same Mountains, Different Vibe: Building a Regional Identity for the Western Catskills”
A workshop, sponsored by Delaware County Tourism, was held on November 2, 2011 at the Hanah Mountain Resort near Margaretville. The workshop was funded through a grant from the Appalachian Gateway Communities Initiative, a program of the National Trust for Historic Preservation.
The purpose of the initiative was stated as “promote natural and heritage tourism in Appalachia’s ‘gateway communities’…..that is, the communities that border national and state parks, wildlife refuges, forests, historic sites, wilderness areas, and other public lands”. For this Appalachian Gateway Communities Initiative, Otsego, Greene, and Delaware Counties, which includes the upper East Branch Delaware Watershed, forms the northernmost gateway of “Appalachia”.
Gateways While local business owners, residents, and tourists undoubtedly think of this area as the Catskill Mountain region (or the western Catskills), the theory, or really the reality of ‘gateway’ still applies to much of the upper East Branch Delaware River and watershed. Similar to the fact that tourists or locals for that matter do not care who owns the property that they can recreate on (NYSDEC, NYCDEP, a local land trust, etc) as long as they CAN recreate on it, the same applies here….call it the western Catskills, call it northern Appalachia…or other, just figure out what we are, develop it, and market it.
Whether the East Branch is a western gateway for the central Catskills, a northern gateway for the Appalachian Region, or the northern gateway for the Delaware Highlands, or even the eastern gateway for the Finger Lakes Region, it doesn’t really matter as long as tourists come to the area to experience “it”.
“Gateways” as defined by the initiative cited above are “portals to the nation’s public lands”, a “source of food, lodging, transport and business that support visitors”, and “magnets for businesses, working families, and retirees”. Several communities along the East Branch are gateway communities – Downsville, Margaretville, Roxbury, and Andes are all ‘gateway’ communities.
We are not aware of any additional follow-ups to this valuable workshop, however the majority of the attendees from it continue to work on issues of outdoor recreation and tourism throughout the greater Catskill Mountain region, including many of the initiatives mentioned in this report.
Revitalizing the Esopus/Delaware Region of the Central Catskills: This study was “a regional economic development strategy for the towns of Andes, Middletown, Roxbury, Olive and Shandaken, and the villages of Fleischmanns and Margaretville”. Five of those municipalities were part of this East Branch Access project as well.
Provided with funding from the New York State’s Local Waterfront Revitalization Program, this regional visioning, planning and design effort aimed at revitalizing the Esopus and East Branch corridors (State Route 28 and 30) in the central Catskills. The effort aimed to “promote village, hamlet and Main Street revitalization along with enhanced access to waterways and public lands for increased recreation‐based tourism. At the same time, it recognizes that the areas significant scenic and natural resources are vital to both economic prosperity as well as quality of life for residents.”
It states “water‐based recreation and related tourism activity, along with other significant open space, cultural, and historical resources are the major components of the local and regional economies of the Catskill Park.” And further identifies a purpose of “strengthening the economic base by providing new opportunities for water‐based recreation and associated tourism-based economic development.”
The final strategy recommends projects that “include a wide variety of strategies such as new stream access sites, enhanced linkages between streams, hamlets, and villages, and improved signage, as well as methods to promote an institutional and organizational framework to support them.”
Taking it a step further, the strategy realizes “a wide variety of economic activities throughout the Esopus/Delaware area are concentrated along, or oriented to its water resources. The Esopus and Delaware corridors can be the focus to bring new life and energy to the five towns and two villages included in this planning effort.”
It advocates that “this revitalization strategy should also be viewed as a comprehensive regional plan that weaves together, in one place, the data, maps, vision, goals, and creative actions from past and current plans and studies. Because this strategy reflects community consensus generated over many years through other independent planning efforts, and confirmed through new public input, it will increase the Central Catskill’s ability to market and promote itself to attract appropriate development that respects the rich cultural and natural characteristics found here.”
This study led to a series of recommend actions that is available and a number of them are of a similar nature to those that resulted from this East Branch Enhanced Recreational Access project. Final results of this study can be found on the M-Ark Project’s website: http://markproject.org/projects/economic-revitalization-study/esopusdelaware-economic- revitalization-strategy/. A brief summary of the recommendations can also be found in Section II - Overall Picture of Recreation in the upper East Branch Delaware Watershed portion of this report.
Goals #30 and #31 of the NYCDEP 2011-2014 Strategy (taken directly from the report)
Goal #30 - Support economic development compatible with watershed protection: “At the core of the city’s source water protection program is the belief that economic development can and must be compatible with water quality. Through our partnership with the Catskill Watershed Corporation (CWC), the City loaned $48 million to 203 watershed businesses over the last 12 years to support tourism, hospitality, manufacturing, and other industries. We have funded the extension of sewers, rehabilitated more than 3,500 septic systems, restored streams, and supported many other activities through CWC. Our partnership with the Watershed Agricultural Council (WAC) promotes farming and protects water quality, but we can do more. DEP will continue to support environmentally sustainable economic development in the watershed, including a re-examination of partnership opportunities for renewable energy production, the feasibility of bringing broadband coverage to rural areas, and ensuring that the Catskill Fund for the Future (CFF) continues to make loans to businesses in the watershed.”
Goal #31 - Expand recreational opportunities in the city’s watershed: “Over the last two years, thousands of local residents and visitors have enjoyed expanded recreational opportunities throughout the watershed. More than 117,000 people hold access permits to watershed lands, more than 11,300 people have boat tags for the city’s reservoirs, and the watershed is a growing tourist destination. We will continue to expand the acreage of watershed lands open to the public for hunting, hiking, and fishing, and we will seek to expand recreational boating to include the Neversink and Pepacton reservoirs.”
Current and Future Trail-Building on NYCDEP Watershed Lands There are many recent examples now of how NYCDEP is continuing to expand their role with respect to outdoor recreation in the region in accordance with the above-mentioned strategy. Groups such as the Catskill Mountain Club already have agreements in place to construct community trails on City lands. For example, two of the locations are in the upper East Branch Delaware watershed and also provide access to waterbodies. These two areas, the Shavertown Unit and the Palmer Hill Unit provide a promising foundation for communities to continue to work with NYCDEP and other partners. In late August, the Shavertown Unit was officially opened and a lovely 2.6-miles trail with a stunning view of the Pepacton Reservoir can now be easily accessed by the public. The NYCDEP press release can be seen here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/press_releases/13- 092pr.shtml.
In addition to the CMC, other groups such as the Finger Lakes Trail Conference and the NY-NJ Trail Conference continue to work with the NYCDEP to provide opportunities for family- friendly hiking trails created in the region.
References
1 – NYCDEP Recreation Boating Webpage (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/recreation/cannonsville_boating_program.shtml)
2 – NYCDEP Press Release (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/press_releases/12-69pr.shtml)
GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT
Upper East Branch Delaware River
Definitions
Good Neighbor Agreement (GNA) – A document detailing the history, concerns, agreements and outcomes developed to address impacts associated with changes in increasing access to streams in the upper East Branch Delaware River watershed.
Stakeholder – anyone who is impacted by the increased access to and use of the East Branch and its tributaries. This could be a neighbor, user, business, public agency, neighborhood organization, municipality, school, and even the aquatic life in the streams.
Neighbor – Any business, organization, home / property within sight and sound distance of the specified site.
Stream Access Point – An outdoor area used formally or informally by the public to gain entry to or alongside a stream, lake, pond, or reservoir. Examples include but are not limited to federal, state, city, or municipally-owned lands that adjoin a stream, lake, pond, or reservoir, trailered or car-top boat launches, designated fishing access sites, piers, or riparian areas, and private lands where an easement or other such agreement have been established.
GNA Procedures & Guidelines
Good Neighbor Agreement (GNA) should be seen as a tool to encourage open and collaborative relationships between all of these stakeholders. The following procedures are a guide to understanding when and how the development of a GNA would be beneficial.
Ultimately, due to their unique nature, the final process for developing a GNA will be determined by the participants.
Before a Good Neighbor Agreement is Necessary -
A Good Neighbor Agreement can be used when a change is proposed to an existing or potential stream access point and there are outstanding concerns/issues.
In general, a GNA will be initiated after the landowner (where the increased public access will occur) has notified stakeholders within 500’ of its intention to alter the current use of an existing or potential stream access points. The notification must include: site plans, anticipated changes in use, permits required, land use reviews, contact persons and licenses that will be requested. Ideally, any questions, comments or concerns will be addressed directly between the concerned neighbor and the appropriate staff. If a concern or issue cannot be addressed at this level, stakeholders should meet to identify and clarify any issues and concerns. Stakeholders must request that the neighbor(s) / neighborhood association send a letter to the appropriate staff requesting a meeting, with a list of specific concerns and/or issues, within 45 days. The East Branch Stewards group will schedule a public meeting within 30 days of receipt of that letter. A meeting will be scheduled with notification sent to a mutually agreed upon list of stakeholders. At this meeting, participants will work to understand and address the issues presented.
When a Good Neighbor Agreement is recommended -
If an issue cannot be addressed by speaking directly with staff or with a public meeting, or it is assumed that impacts or concerns are more long term, then it is recommended that the parties agree to proceed with the development of a GNA.
Who can participate in a Good Neighbor Agreement?
Stakeholder representatives from the involved agency, organization, municipality, principals, business or program
Stakeholders groups may include, but are not limited to immediate neighbors (business owners and residents), representatives of the neighborhood association, business association(s), sports user groups, other community and advocacy groups.
Stakeholders whose geographical boundaries are generally within 500 feet of the proposed stream access point or modifications. Additional stakeholders should include those that are within sight and sound distance of the proposed access point. Other geographic considerations include main thoroughfares, etc. Police and other emergency services would also be considered stakeholders.
How many representatives can participate?
There should be no less than 5 and no more than 15 representatives.
Who facilitates the development of a Good Neighbor Agreement?
Ideally, facilitation will be by a third party. If resources are not available, the facilitator should be agreed upon by the participants.
How is a Good Neighbor Agreement “Ratified”?
A GNA will be considered “ratified” when the participants have signed the final documents. A Good Neighbor Committee will work toward consensus agreements on identified issues, and obtaining signatures from all participants. If consensus cannot be achieved, three-fourths (75%) of all participants present can “ratify” an agreement by signing it.
What authority does a Good Neighbor Agreement have?
A Good Neighbor Agreement is not legally binding, but rather depends on the collaboration and commitment of all parties to ensure that each neighbors’ interests are met. All GNAs must detail the commitment of all parties to upholding the agreement. If any party fails to uphold their commitment, than the group will be reconvened and the concerns will be addressed.
How is a Good Neighbor Agreement Enforced?
The Agreement is enforced by the permitting agency that processes permit applications (if applicable), and will be tied to the approval and granting of use permits. A use permit for use of a stream or other access point/opportunity can be withheld or rescinded for non-compliance with a GNA.
How long does a Good Neighbor Agreement last?
The duration of a GNA is site specific. If each party is acting in good faith and issues are addressed or resolved in a mutually agreed upon manner, the need for a formally documented agreement will diminish over time. The participants in a GNA should discuss the following issues:
Expiration – GNAs can be valid for specified periods. One option is to have them in force for five (5) years, with an opportunity to renewals (renewal periods may vary). Review – GNAs should be reviewed periodically (annually perhaps), to determine what has worked well, what may need changing, and what is clearly not working as planned. Modification - GNAs may need to be modified during the initial five (5) year period. The participants should discuss and the agreement should specify how modifications are proposed and approved. One option is to address modifications as part of an annual review.
Outline of a Good Neighbor Agreement
I. Introduction and Background
Information about the proposed changes to any given site/facility; the objectives of the changes; process that stakeholders went through to establish document; basic rights inherent in agreement
Legal status of the Agreement – Good Neighbor Agreements are not legally binding, rather it is a community partnership agreement. Participants should be given time for independent counsel to review the document.
II. Goals of the Agreement
May include goals such as initiate and maintain open communication; maintain neighborhood livability; monitor and maintain the site; monitor and removal of trash; develop a procedure for problem solving; maintain open dialogue etc.
Agreements
The following section outlines specific agreements that the stakeholders identify. It is important to be clear about who will do what, and not place the onus on one stakeholder. It is a shared process, with shared responsibilities
III. All Parties Agree to:
IV. Community / Stewards Group(s) Agrees to
V. Business Owners Agree to
VI. Individual Neighbors Agree to
VII. Communication Procedure
Identify what communication procedures are in place for ongoing communication and problem solving. Can include but is not limited to:
Regularly scheduled advisory committee meetings to problem solve issues
Agreement to use mediation services for conflicts, disputes, etc.
Who to call for what kind of issues
VIII. Administration
Ways in which a GNA document might be monitored, again understanding that it is not a legal document.
IX. Signatures
X. Attachments / Exhibits
The Good Neighbor Agreement Process
I. Community / Stewards Group(s) identifies the need to change an existing use at a stream access point
II. The initiating Community/Stewards Group determines the review/notification policy
III. The Community/Stewards Group determines public notification is appropriate for this type of use
IV. The Community/Stewards Group provides notification to neighbors within sight and sound distance of the affected stream access point
V. Neighbors have 60 days to identify concerns/issues and work with the neighborhood association or other (if applicable) to respond in writing to the Community/Stewards Group notification.
VI. Initiating Community/Stewards Group has 30 days to schedule a public meeting. Notification will be sent to identified neighbors; neighborhood association; business association; and all businesses, residences, organizations and property owners within 500’ of the proposed site.
VII. Public meeting will be held to address/resolve identified issues/concerns
VIII. At the end of the public meeting, if issues are not able to be resolved, the Community/Stewards Group and concerned neighbors can agree to work together to develop a Good Neighbor Agreement (GNA).
IX. Identify composition of Good Neighbor Agreement Development Team – Members of the Community/Stewards Group (i.e. “East Branch Stewards Group”) and additional member representing the interests around that particular access point (not to exceed 15 participants, with a minimum of 5).
X. Develop Good Neighbor Agreement.
XI. Send notification of GNA to identified stakeholders
*** Figures as of 7/1/12
NYCDEP Unit Name Municipality WMU Acres Town of ANDES Canada Hollow Andes 4P 120 Shavertown Bridge Andes 4P 305 Tremperkill Andes 4P 202 Barkaboom Andes 4W 144 Beech Hill Andes 4W 156 Bryants Brook Andes 4P 93 Dibble Road Andes 4P 104 Flynn Brook Andes 4P 2,200 Meekers Hill Andes 4P 120 Murphy Hill Andes 4P 520 Palmer Hill Andes 4P 234 Pepacton Ledges Andes 4W 294 Rehor Road Andes 3A 190 Shaver Hollow Andes 4P 33 Weaver Hollow Andes 4P 622 ANDES Total: 15 5337
Town of COLCHESTER Cat Hollow Colchester 4W 175 Miller Hollow Colchester 4W 19 Raynor Brook Colchester 4P 360 Vinci Brook Colchester 4W 97 COLCHESTER Total: 4 651
Town of HALCOTT Brownell Creek Halcott 4R 98 Halcott Halcott 4R 116 Red Kill Headwaters Halcott 4R 136 Silas Lake Halcott 4R 48 West Halcott Halcott & Roxbury 4R 110 HALCOTT Total: 5 508
Town of MIDDLETOWN Alpaca Ridge Middletown 4P 514 Arena Middletown 3A 360 Bragg Hollow Middletown 4P 32 Brook Road Middletown 4P 72 Brush Ridge Middletown 4R 66 Cole Hill Middletown 4P 241 Covesville Middletown 4R 56 Dunraven North Middletown 4P 202 Huckleberry Brook Middletown 3A 101 Johnny Cake Lane Middletown 4P 30 Miller Road Middletown 4P 285 Morris Hill Middletown 4R 266 New Kingston Mountain Middletown 4P 282 Red Kill Middletown 4R 83 South Dunraven Middletown 4P 62 Swart Road Middletown 4P 161 Trow Bridge Middletown 4P 12 MIDDLETOWN Total: 17 2825
Town Of ROXBURY Irish Mountain Roxbury 4R 259 Buffalo Hollow Roxbury 4R 90 Delaware Headwaters Roxbury 4P 599 Duggan Hill Roxbury 4P 192 Hardscrabble Road Roxbury 4P 47 Hinkley Roxbury 4P 87 Horton Brook Roxbury 4W 7 Plattekill Mountain Roxbury 4P 716 Pleasant Valley Roxbury 4P 183 Sallys Alley Roxbury 4R 257 Vega Mountain Roxbury 4R 45 West Settlement Roxbury 4P 1,731
ROXBURY Total: 12 4213
53 Recreational Units Totaling 13, 534 acres By Municipality By Sub-basin 17 Middletown 15 EB Mainstem 12 Roxbury 13 Pepacton 15 Andes 9 Plattekill 4 Colchester 7 Bush Kill 5 Halcott 3 Batavia Kill 2 Tremperkill 1 none
JULY 2012 NUMBERS
TOTAL Andes Halcott 59 Units 17 Units 5 Units Acres: total - 17,066 Acres: total - 6003 Acres: total - 508 Minimum - 12.4 Minimum - 33 Minimum - 48 Maximum - 2182 Maximum - 2200 Maximum - 138 Average Size - 290acres Average Size - 353acres Average Size - 101acres Adjoins other Municipal Access Type Lands Access to Water
PAA yes PAA no PAA yes PAA State Land no PAA State Land yes PAA yes PAA no no hiking, no trapping State Land* yes PAA yes PAA State Land no PAA no PAA State Land no PAA State Land yes PAA State Land yes PAA no 14 Public Access Areas 8 with Water Access
PAA State Land no PAA State Land no PAA yes PAA State Land no 4 Public Access Areas 1 with Water Access
no hunting, no trapping yes PAA yes PAA State Land no PAA no no trapping yes 3 Public Access Areas 3 with Water Access
PAA State Land yes PAA State Land no PAA no no trapping yes no trapping, hunting yes no trapping no HIKE ONLY no no trapping yes PAA State Land yes PAA no PAA no PAA no PAA no no trapping yes PAA no PAA yes no hunting, no trapping yes 10 Public Access Areas 8 with Water Access
PAA yes PAA no no trapping no no trapping no HIKE ONLY no PAA no PAA yes PAA State Land no PAA no PAA yes PAA no PAA State Land no
9 Public Access Areas 3 with Water Access
Acerage by Municipality 23 have access to 2,825 Middletown substantial water resources 5,337 Andes 4,212 Roxbury 651 Colchester 508 Halcott
Middletown Roxbury Colchester 19 Units 13 Units 5 Units Acres: total - 3372 Acres: total - 4488 Acres: total - 2695 Minimum - 12 Minimum - 45 Minimum - 19 Maximum - 514 Maximum - 1849 Maximum - 2044 Average Size - 177acres Average Size - 345acres Average Size - 539acres Type of Water Access Road SMP Sub-basin
stream Canada Hollow Rd Plattekill NYCBWS Rd 4 Pepacton stream County Rte 1 Tremperkill MAP! Barkaboom Rd none stream Beech Hill Rd Pepacton stream Route 28 Plattekill Dibble Rd Tremper Kill Pepacton Reservoir NYCBWS Rd 6 Pepacton stream Close Hollow Rd Pepacton NYCBWS Rd 6 / Murphy Hill Rd Pepacton Finkle Rd / Route 28 Plattekill Route 30 Pepacton stream Barkaboom Rd / Rehor Rd Pepacton stream Shaver Hollow Rd Pepacton Weaver Hollow Rd Pepacton
Route 30 Pepacton Miller Hollow Rd Pepacton stream NYCBWS Rd 1 Pepacton Route 30 Pepacton
stream Kaftas Rd / West Settlement Rd Bush Kill stream West Settlement Rd Bush Kill Travis Faulkner Rd Bush Kill Travis Faulkner Rd Bush Kill stream Red Kill Rd Bush Kill
stream Thompson Hollow Rd Plattekill Reservoir Rd EB Del Mainstem Bragg Hollow Rd map! stream Brook Rd Plattekill stream; pond Route 28 / Koop Rd Bush Kill Swart Rd EB Del Mainstem Hog Mtn Rd / Old Route 28 Bush Kill stream County Rte 6 Plattekill stream Huckleberry Brook rd EB Del Mainstem County Rte 6 Plattekill Miller Rd EB Del Mainstem County Rte 38 / Route 30 EB Del Mainstem New Kingston Mtn Rd Plattekill stream Big Red Kill Rd Bush Kill Ben Meeker Rd Pepacton stream Swart Rd EB Del Mainstem stream Sutherland Rd Plattekill
stream Route 30 EB Del Mainstem George Lawrence Rd Batavia Kill Route 30 EB Del Mainstem Duggan Hill rd EB Del Mainstem Hardscrabble Rd EB Del Mainstem Carroll Hinkley Rd EB Del Mainstem stream Horton Brook Rd EB Del Mainstem Lower Meeker Hollow Rd EB Del Mainstem Baumback Rd EB Del Mainstem stream Sally's Alley / County Rte 36 Batavia Kill Vega Mtn Rd Batavia Kill Burroughs Memorial Rd / Roses Brook Rd EB Del Mainstem
Recreational Use Designation 40 PAA 7 Hike, Fish, Hunt 4 Hike, Fish 2 Hike only Virtual Hike of the Morris Hill Unit (#’s on Map Correspond with Images that Follow)
#1 – View Southwest from Main Trail (0.75-mile from start)
#2 - View Southwest from Main Trail (1-mile from start)
#3 - View West from Main Trail (2,400’)
#4 - View Southwest from Main Trail just below clearing near summit
#4 - View West from Main Trail just below clearing near summit
#4 - View North from Main Trail just below clearing near summit
#5 – View West from Loop Trail 0.25-mile from junction with Main Trail
Loop Trail through stand of eastern hemlock
#6 - View West from Loop Trail 0.75-mile from junction with Main Trail
ADDITIONAL RECREATIONAL We’ve Got It All! • Hiking OPPORTUNITIES NEARBY: • Paddling Pepacton Reservoir • Wildlife Viewing canoeing, kayaking, fishing • Trout Fishing Murphy Hill State Forest • Warm-Water Fishing hiking, hunting
Dry Brook Ridge Wild Forest hiking, hunting, camping
Water Discover Center walking, fishing, wildlife viewing Balsam Lake Mtn Wild Forest hiking, hunting, camping Dunraven Bridge Access (ADA) fishing, wildlife viewing
Learn much more about each at: www.EastBranchAccess.com Upper East Branch Central Catskills Chamber of Delaware River Commerce For much more detailed information, maps, directions and recommendations for Margaretville additional nearby outdoor recreational Vicinity pursuits, visit: PO Box 605 Margaretville, NY 12455 http://www.centralcatskills.com www.EastBranchAccess.com Email: [email protected] Central Catskills Chamber of Commerce Phone: 845-586-3300 Water Discovery Center m
With more than one mile of East Branch shoreline accessible to the public, Margaretville offers something for all
Recreational Access within Walking Distance Walking 1 – Pavilion Trail 3 – Margaretville Riverwalk 5 - NYCDEP Fishing Area (proposed) 6 – Swart Road Unit (no trails) 7 – Dry Brook Ridge Wild Forest
Fishing 1 – Pavilion Area/Trail 2 – Municipal Parking Area Access 5 – NYC DEP Fishing Area
Wildlife Viewing
2 - Municipal Parking Area 3 – Margaretville Riverwalk 4 – Margaretville School Kiosk Area
Canoeing/Kayaking Access 2 – Municipal Parking Lot 5 – NYCDEP Fishing Area (proposed)
Funding for this project provided by the Delaware County Soil & Water Conservation District in partnership with the NYC Department of Environmental Protection