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(Sizth Series, Volume XIX, Sixth Session 1978)

No. 6, Monday, November 27, igj^lAgrahayana 6, 1900 (Saka)

Oral Answers to Questions: Columns ♦Starred Questions Nos. loi, 102, 104, 105, 108, 109, 113 and 114 ...... I — 31

Written Answers to Questions : Starred Questions Nos. 103, 106, roy, n o , 111 and 115 to 1 2 0 ...... • . • 31—44

Unstarred Questions Nos. 986 to 1 122, 1124 to 1181 and i i 8 3 t o i i 85 ...... 4 4 — 253

Papers laid on the Table 254— 56

Messages from Rajya Sabha 256

Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance— Reported shortage of coal in many parts of the country . 257 Shri Harikesh Bahadur 257, 260—6j Shri P. Ramachandran 257—60, 261— 62,265— 66 Shri Chitta Basu . 263— 65 Shri Vijay Kumar Malhotra. . 266— 67

Statement re: Establishment of rateofexchangebetweenthc Indian rupee and the rouble— Shri H. M. Patel 268— 71

Sugar Undertakings (Taking Over ot Management) Bill—

Motion to introduce 272— 73 Shri Surjit Singh Barnala 272, 273 Shri Eduardo Faleiro 272

Statement re: Sugar Undertakings (Taking over of Management) Ordinance, 1978-—

Shri Surjit Singh Bamala ...... 273

*The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (“)

Matters under rule 377 . Columns

(i) Reported low price fixed by the Government for paddy— Shri p. Rajagopal N a id u ...... 273— 74

(ii) Reported encroachment by Bangladesh nationals on reserved land in Barpeta sub-division of

Shri Ismail Hossain Khan 274— 75

(iii) Sharp spurt in money supply in the current financial year—

Dr. Vasant Kumar Pandit . 275

(iv) RepoHed hardship of salt labourers in Surendranagar dis­ trict of due to untimely rains—

Prof. R. K. Amin 275— 77

(v) Need for construction ot a broad gauge railway line from Emakulam to Alleppey ()-—

Shri V. M. Sudheeeran 277— 79

Prof . Madhu D a n d a v a t e ...... 279— 80

Employment of ch ildren (Amendment) Bill—

Motion to consider, as passed by Rajya Sabha—

Shri B. C. Kamble . 281— 82

Shri Kusuma Krishna Murthy 282— 85

Shri Ravindra Varma 2 8 5 - 9 8

Clauses 2 to 5 and i . . . 2 98— 303 Motion to pass—

Shri Ravindra Varma . . . . 303

Motor Vehicles (Amendment) Bill—

Motion to consider .... 303— 50

Shri Chand Ram 304— 307

Shri R. Venkataraman 3 0 7 - 1 6

Shri Shambhu Nath Chaturvedi .... 316— 20

Shri Vayalar Ravi . . , . 320— 24 (Hi;

Columns

Shri Bhagat Ram . ?27— 329

Sh ri R. L. P. Verma 329— 30

Shri P. Thiagarajan 330— 33 % Shri Pabitra Mohan Pradhan . 333—34

Shri K. A. Rajan . 335— 36

Shri Laxmi Narain Nayak . 337— 38

Shri G. M. Banatwalla ■ 338— 41

Shri Ram Murti 342— 46

Shri B. C. Kamblc 346— 48

Shri Durga Chand 348 50

Hall-an-hour discussion—

Implementation ol Land Ceiling Act by the Statcs-

Shri A. R. Badri Narayan 351— 53

Shri Sikandar Bakht 353— 55

Shri Giridhar Gomango . 355— 56

Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu 35« —5 8 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA 3 jhuggis and 2 boundary walls were demolished on 21st November, 1978, as these were reconstructions. Monday, November 27, 1978/Agraha- (b) These were not only unauthori­ yana 6, 1900 {Saka) sed construction of a very recent origin but also encroachments on The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of Government land. No assurance had the Clock been given that these will not be demolished.

SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: The [M r. S pe a k e r in the Chair]. statement that has been made by the hon. Minister in his reply contains a ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS lot of incorrect information and is evasive in many aspects. Firstly, I would like him 1o admit these facts Demolitions in Toghlakabad, viz., that he had given an assurance in June 1977 that constructions upto ♦101. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: the end of that month will not be de­ Will the Minister of WORKS AND molished, that about 1000 houses have HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ been demolished, that no notice at all HABILITATION be pleased to state: was given, about 141 of these house­ owners were paying house'-tax, most (a) whether Government are aware of them had ration cards and owner­ of demolition operations carried out ship documents, the construction was by DDA recently during which more on private land; in eight cases the than one thousand pucca houses at houses were demolished inspite of the Tughlakabad Extension were razed stay order of the High Court. It is to ground inspite of resistance of its better for him to admit all these facts owners who were legally in their because I am producing documents occupation; and here—a demand note asking for pay­ ment of rent dated 1st April 1976 for (b) if so, what were the specific one person in this area occupying reasons which led Government and House No. RZ /68 in Tughlakabad Ex­ the DDA to take such action despite tension and the name of the man is assurances that those constructions Ram Balak, his residential house has would not be demolished? been demolished, his ownership docu­ ment is here. Then there is also a notification of the Executive Officer of THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND DDA concerning regularisation of un­ HOUSING AND J5UPPLY AND RE­ authorised colonies. With reference to HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR this particular colony, this colony is BAKHT): (a) Delhi Development not covered by DDA; so, it is a private Authority demolished 282 structures land. Finally, there is a stay order comprising largely boundary walls granted by the Chief Justice of the and semi pucca units illegally put up Delhi High Court, hon. Justice Go- on Government land after 17th Dece­ swami in the case of Suresh Kumar vs. mber, 1977. Besides these, 10 rooms, DDA and others, where a stay order 3131 LS— 1 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Oral Answers

was granted not to demolish the con­ gation I would like to say this struction on 24th October 1978. Inspite much. Will the hon. Minister make full of tiie stayorder of the High Court, compensation in case it is provided to these constructions were demolished, him that houses which existed before I would like the Minister to admit all June 1977 were demolished? Will he these facts before the House and apo­ allow them to be reconstructed? The logise to this House and to say why second part of the question is, will the these utterly brutal and inhuman acts hon. Minister assure this House that no which have exceeded in brutality the further demolitions at all will be car­ notorious episode of Turkman Gate ried out in Delhi without first having have been committed by the Govern­ a complete resettlement and rehabili­ ment. ' ll tation scheme? SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT; I am here to answer questions and not to SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT; I have make admissions and apologies to the made it very clear and I have never been vague about making statements hon. Member. about these things that all those stru­ AN HON. MEMBER: To the House. ctures which have come up after 30th SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: All June, 1977 on Government lands, right to the House. Of course, apolo­ which are encroachments and which gies to the House will alwa> s be given are unauthorised constructions will if there is a mistake. Unfortunately be demolished and will not be tolerat­ the hon. Member seems to have asked ed. There is no question of vagueness his question in a manner that certain about it and, of course, whatever figu­ answers were not called for at all. res I have given, I have given them 'Everything that he has stated just on obtaining information from the now, if he has asked these questions Corporation as well as the D.D.A. and with regard to those specific instances, I believe they are absolutely correct. I would have been very happy to ans- were those questions. He says, whether DR. SARDISH ROY: Of these de­ the Government are aware of the de­ molished houses, some of them are as­ molition operations carried out by the sessed by the Municipal Corporation. DDA. I have given all the details and Demolition is done both by the D.D.A. figures with regard to the demoli­ and the Municipal Corporation. May I tions by the DDA. There have been know from the Hon’ble Minister whe­ demolition notifications by the MCD ther it is not a fact that some of them in this area also, jn this regard, in have at least got documents, legal do­ the statement of the Chairman of the cuments, for the purchase of the land Standing Committee—unfortunately, and the D. D. A. in its letter issued the hon. Member does not seem to some time back have stated “this area have either read his statement or it does not fall within the development has not been brought to his notice— area of D. D. A.”? This letter was is­ he has made it very clear that there sued some time in July, 1978 and they is no doubt that there were houses and have stated that this area does not fall there still are houses where house tax within the development area of the was paid, but none of them were" de­ D. D. A. In spile of that, these houses molished 332 houses were demolish­ were demolished without giving any ed by the Municipal Corporation also notice. Further, they are given no al­ which were constructed only after ternative accommodation. They were June 1977. All the assurance given done during the Emergency period. by the Grovemment were with regard May I request the hon. Minister to to the construction prior to 30th June, kindly make a personal enquiry into 1977. all these complaints so that if any­ SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: I thing is done, if the High Court order strongly repeat and reiterate my alle­ is there restraining such demolition Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers

work and if something is found wrong, he w ill modify all these cases? ^ «fV I ^ 5nr^? ^ T?: ^(ft-?5rT- ^7PT?T^" JTJTTf^ ?T^ SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: Unfor­ ferr m WTT ^ ^ ^ ^TT?) tunately the demolition carried out by I J f^T%vT^Tm ^ ^ the D. D. A. is being mixed up with ’TT cttW^ I, irr Tm a\i the demolition carried out by Mu­ I I ^ ' nicipal Corporation. The procedure for both is entirely different. In re­ Management of Public Schools gard to the demolition which was car­ ried out by the D. D. A. the question + of house-tax or building tax never arose. Those encroachments only re­ SHRI S. R. DAMANI: lated to the period after December * 102. SHRI MANORANJAN 1977. But according to the informa­ BHAKTA: tion provided to me by the Municipal Will the Minister of EDUCATION, Corporation. ... SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to sSTgj DR. SARDISH ROY; Construction before that date...... (a) whether Government are consi­ dering a proposal to bring under their SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: Accord­ control the managements of the public ing to the information provided to me schools in the country; by the Municipal Corporation, no such house has been demolished, (b) if so, details thereof;

MR. SPEAKER: But no specific case (c) whether any discussions have was brought to your notice. . . been held with the societies/organisa­ tions which are at present managing SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: No spe­ the public schools; and cific case was brought to my notice. (d) if so, what are their views and when a final decision is likely to be taken in this matter?

ftrm «n- ^ gm THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, ^-?rrtT ^ ^ i SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- 8 RT THTT «TT ?ft wii pRnn w ? DER): (a) No. Sir. (b) Does not arise. ^ I W ^ q f?TTT (c) No, Sir. f^TT, f^nPT ^ ?t ^TTT TK f^rqr pT of^ (d) Does not arise. ^ ^ |TT f’, ^ srr5#7 ^ ^ ^ ^ ’TT ^ SHRI S. R. DAM A^: My question ftnrr ^ «iT m ^ is: “Whether Government are conside­ ^ «rr ? ^ ring a proposal to bring under their I ’tt w nr ^ control the managements of the public t 2PTT f ^ wrr ^ schools in the country;*’ •W 5Ft ^ fe n m m ? MR. SPEAKER: Tlie answer is: ‘No, ^ ftnrr^VT tot : ^ Sir.’ 282 Pttt$ t> ^ q-T ^ 5f)T ^ SHRI S. R. DAMAT^I: For the part ^ I W ?ft I (b) of my question, the answer is: Oral Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Oral Answers 8

“Does not arise’\'^ir. in this connec­ system. But how it will be done will’ tion. I would read out the statement be discussed later. It may be that by made by the Chief Minister of Bihar, negotiation we can do many things in Shri Karpuri Thakur. jt is clear from this matter. the statement of 1st November. . . SHRI S. R. DAMAN!,: My second MR. SPEAKER: What he says is supplementary is whether the hon. that the Central Government has no proposal ---- Minister is aware about the high fees which are charged by these public SHRI S. R. DAMAN!: This is what schools. They are also imparting edu­ has been said. 1 quote: cation only in the English medium, which will create a new class by ‘‘The so-called public schools in themselves. Will the hon. Minister Bihar will no longer exist in their laying down some norms or the high­ existing form from January 1, next est charges which a school can cha­ year, the Chief Minister Mr. Kar- rge? poori Thakur said here today, the birthday of Sardar Vallabh Bhai DR. PRATAP CHATCDRA CHUN- Patel and Acharya Narendra Deo'’. DER: The hon. Member is right. This matter is known to the Government Further: and this matter was taken up at a “He said the Government would meeting of the Education Ministers seek legal constitutional advice to and it was placed before the Educa­ overcome any difficulty that might tion Ministers in this way: arise in the process of implementa- •Some schools like public schools tation of this decision.” charge high fees and remain out­ So, may I know from the hon. Mi­ side the system of public education. nister whether his attention has been These institutions may not receive drawn to this statement and whether aid or support from the State. there is difference of opinion between While some of these institutions pro­ the State and the Centre. vide for admission of students from the weaker sections on a DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- system of scholarships operated dir­ DER: As I have already suggested, ectly or through the State, by and Mr. Karpoori Thalcur does riot repre­ large, these remain accessible only sent this Government. Even then, to the privileged and fortunate in Shri Karpoori Thakur has stated that society. It is necesary to bring the constitutional position should l 7e these institutions also into the pub­ ascertained. This Government—that lic system of education. It is sug­ means the Central Government-has gested that these institutions should already ascertained the constitutional be integrated with the common position by referring the matter to the school system of education on its Law Ministry. We have been advised neighbourhood pattern, which has that under Art. 30 of the Constitution, been advocated by this Govern­ in so far as public schools managed by ment’. minorities are concerned, it would be violative of that Article. As re­ So, the problem is before us and it is gards other schools, Art. 19(g) being discussed as to how we can do will be violated if we do so. Still, in it, keeping in view the constitutional the new policy on education which we and legal limitations. are discussing, we have suggested that there will be a common SHRI HARIKESH BAHADUR: It is school system and we should proved beyond doubt that these pub­ make an attempt to integrate the pub­ lic schools are centres which produce lic schools into the common school feudal and aristocratic bureaucrats. I Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers lo do not understand the reason why Go­ (b) if so, whether the Kerala Gov­ vernment is not going to take over or ernment have nominated a member to restructure them. I would like to ask serve in the above Committee an ; the Hon. Minister whether he has any whether the Committee has started plan to at least restructure these pub­ functioning? lic schools so that the poor people of this country may also get the )jenefit THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ out of it. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- and (b) Yes, Sir. DER: I have already pointed out the Constitutional limitations and, like the Hon. Member, I have also taken an SHRI K. T. KOSALRAM. I want to wath to uphold the Constitution. 1 know the terms of reference of the have said that we are considering the Technical Committee constituted in aspect in a different way. I have al­ the year 1976 and its composition. ready indicated that it is included in Besides, I want to know whether the the proposed national policy. Government of have sub­ mitted some proposals to the Central SHRI A. E. T. BARROW: Has the Government envisaging utilisation of Government carried out a compara­ surplus water from the west-flowing tive study of the cost of running Cen­ rivers for irrigation proposes in the tral Schools and running of what are chronically drought-afflicated parts of known as Public Schools? I am tak- the State and the STatf^ Government ling about what are technically Pub­ has also committed to meet the entire lic Schools. There are 36 including cost of the project running into seve­ your Sainik ^cliooTs wliich are also ral crores of rupee; whether one TMC Public Schools. Have you worked out ft. of water can produce 10,000 tonnes the comparative coSf and is the cost in of paddy annually and irrigate 10,000 Public Schools very much higher than hectares of land. that being paid by Government for running Centi al Schools? SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: After the formation of the Technical DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- Con^.mittee, three meetings have al­ DER: No such exercise has taken ready been held. The first nv 3cting was place. held on 2nd August, 1978. Th 2 Seco .d meeting was held on 4th September, 1978 and the third meeting was held Diversion of West Flowing: Rivers of on 20th October, 197B. The next meet­ Kerala ing has been fixed for ’ 5th December, ♦104. SHRI K. T. KOSALRAM: 1978. A lot of progress has been made Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE in these discussions. This Committee AND IRRIGATION be pleased to was set up only after tl^e concerned >tate: States have agreed to the formation of this Committee for diverting water (a) whether it is a fact that the of the west-flowing rivers towards the Prime Minister discussed about the di­ east. version of the West flowing rivers of Kerala with the concerned officials SHRI K. T. KOSALRAM: Is it not and the Chief Ministers of Tamilnadu a fact that the Government of Kerala and Kerala States and whether the has deposed before the Irrigation Co­ ■Chief Minister of Kerala has given mmission that out of 72,520 m cu.m. concurrence and agreed to depute a water of 41 west flowing rivers in nominee to serve in the Technical Kerala, about 4D490 m.cu.m. of water Committee constituted for the purpose flows waste into the sea after meeting by the Government of ; and the irrigation, power and navigational II Oral Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Oral Answers la requirements of Kerala State; and in but the way these friends are posing view of the fact that Kerala Govern­ the question, it appears as irthe needs ment officials have conceded before Of Kerala are not to be met. So far the Irrigation Commission that 9 TMC as Periyar is concerned, the problem ft. Of water from Achanloil basin are is that of salinity. Unless the water is not absolutely useful to the State of flushed out the entire belt will be af- Kerala; whether the CenTre will sanc­ fecte^. So far as Pambai is concerned, tion this propoisal immediately so that the rice bowl of Kerala is affected. 90,000 acres of land in cjn This can be protected by flushing out be brought under cultivafion. the salinity.

SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: MR. SPEAKER: YOtMiave given a For supplying information as to what lot of information to the Government. was the statement made by the repre­ sentatives of the Kerala Government, (InterrxLptions) I would require a separate notice. SHRI M. N. GOVINDAN NAIR: M y SHRI K. GOPAL: Two years ago, a suggestion is thal together with diver­ memorandum was submitted by more ting the water, we should also be per­ than 100 Members of Parliament that mitted to migrate to Tamilnadu. water should be brought under the Concurrent List. I am happy to see MR. SPEAKER; TRal is not the'que­ that the present Prime Minister also stion which We have. has made some announcement with SHRI B. RACHAIAH; Though the regard to that that water should be a national asset; it should not be left to Committee was constituted in 1976, very little progress has been made. the State. Out of 41 rivers, if only three rivers, namely, Chaliyar, Periyar When is the Committee expected to and Pambai, are diverted, they can ir­ submit its report? rigate the districts of Kanyakumari, SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: Tirunelveli, Ramanathan Puram and The member from- Kerala was nomi­ to the extent of nearly 8.2 nated only on 1st July, 1978 and after lakh hectares. So, I would like to that, as I have submitted, already know whether, to begin with, you will three rmeetingg have taken place and request the Kerala Government to di­ fourth has been fixed for 5th of De­ vert water of these three rivers. Whe­ cember. ther the Government would serious­ ly consider the proposal of bringing Violation of Established Fishing Rules water as a national asset. + SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: ♦105. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI.. This Technical Committee was set up SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: only for purpose to gO into all these Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ matters, whether surplus water is avai­ TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased lable, what quantity of surplus water to state: is available, in which 'OT the rivers water if-; available and how it can be (a) whether Government are aware diverted towards east. So, all that fias that despite protest “morchas’*, hun^ to be l<^oked into by the Technical g e r strikes, and finally official assur­ Commit tee. ances that the rights of traditional fishermen will be protected, violations SHRI M. N. GOVINDAN NAIR: I of the established fishing rules still was amused to hear the two hon. col­ continue; and leagues. The Kerala Government and the people of Kerala are not against (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ giving surplus water to Tamilnadu ment thereto? 13 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14 THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI We have written to all the State Gov­ SURJIT SINGH BARNALA); (a) ernments. We have received com­ and (b). A statement Is laid on the ments from some State Governments. Table of the Sabha. But some of the State Govemmentfl have not written to us. We are taking Statement up the matter with them.

There are no established fishing SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Govern- rules as such exact that the Gov­ ment has already launched coast gua­ ernment of India has suggested certain rds scheme—after passing the BilL guidelines to the State Governments May I ask the hon. Minister, till it is for consideration. Most of the Mari­ passed, to avoid clash between the time States have accepted the guide­ mechanised boats fishermen as well as lines in principle and have taken traditional fishermen, whether he will steps to implement the suggestions seek the help of the coast guards to through executive orders. Some States prevent any such clash and to see that like , and the present demarcation or the dis­ Gujarat have not found any serious tance fixed for the purpose is main­ problems of conflicts and are of the tained? opinion that in the absence of legis­ lative support it would be difficult to enforce hte guidelines legally. SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: We have not received complaint from A draft ‘Marine Fishing Regulation any area except some complaints from Bill’ drafted by the Committee on De­ . Already steps have l 3een taken limitation of Fishing Zones was refer­ in Goa for monitoring the implemen­ red to the Ministry of Law and their tation of that order and some com­ opinion is that the coastal States may mittees have been formed by the Pan- take up the legislation themselves on chayats—of the fishermen and also the centre can legislate after the reso­ with the help of the police. Patrolling lution of the State legislatures of the of that area is done and the check is coastal States are passed, requesting maintained. for centi;al legislation. Accordingly the States are being consulted. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: The hon. Mi­ nister has stated in his reply that the SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: I am glad guidelines have already been given to that the Government has taken note the State Government suggesting their of the seriousness "of the matter. But view points in this regard to formu­ I am afraid about the delay which has late the Central law. This is not the taken place in Implementing, what to question only with regard to the tra­ talk of drafting'Hte “law. ditional fishermen. As far as Laksha­ dweep is concerned not only tradition­ On all the sea coast—Goa, Karna­ al fishermen, but Japanese fishermen taka and other areas—clash is the re­ and local fishermen have been in gular feature of the day. We welcome clash; in Taiwan also. May I know the mechanisation of the marine in­ from the hon. Minister, when they dustry because millions of fishermen formulate the law, will this aspect be must be living on the country's crop. taken into account? But the Government should protect them. In this connection, may I SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: know from the hon. Minister, even We have receiVed information from though you drafted the Bill you are Lakashadweep. They have mentioned waiting for the concurrence of the that there is no conflict in the Union Resolution by the States. What steps territory and there is no necessity of have been taken to expedite the demarcating the areas. So far as poa­ matter? ching by other countries is concerned. 15 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Oral Answers i6 we are taking note of that and we are there is no dispute there and they trying our Jj^est to keep them away need not implement these guidelints. irom our waters. So, they are not taking up the guide­ lines even. SHRI JYOnRMOY BOSU: The statement as laid on the Table of the House by the Minister, lacks in sub­ So far as destroying of fish eggs and breeding ground is concerned, I will stance because IBere is a petition now look into this mtfCter. pending before the Petitions Commit­ tee and I am absolutely certain that the Petitions Committee has summon­ Allotmeiit of Plots In Delhi to D.Ps. ed officials of the Mmistry of Agricul­ ture to enlighten the Petitions Com­ *108. SHRI K. GOPAL: Will The mittee about tSe truthfulness of the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING petition and also asking them to ela­ AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ borate it. -r-- TION be pleased to State:

A deputation consisting of fishermen (a) whether a representation was both from East Coast and West Coast received by Government from Asso­ came to Delhi and met scores of Mem­ ciation of displaced persons from East bers of Parliament and also submit­ Pakistan declared eligible for aUot- ted a petition to the Prime Minister ment of plots in Delhi; and and in that they clearly stated: (b) if so, Government’s action there­ on? “Our rights are continuously tra­ mpled upon by the 400 odd mecha­ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND nised boats, trawlers who have en­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ gine power to go in deeper waters HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR but they come close to the beach be­ BAKHT): Ca) Yes Sir. cause their sole interest is to catch and export prawns to Japan and (b) The suggestion of the Associa­ America. In the process of trawl­ tion is not considered feasible. ing and purseining they brutally kill fish-eggs and destory breeding SHRI K. GOPAL: The hon. Minister grounds” has very easily brushed aside the suggestion by saying that it is not I would like to know from the hon. feasible. I wouid like to remind the Minister in this context as to what im­ hon. Minister that a commitment was mediate steps he proposes to take to made by the Government in 1966 to at least stop this destroying of fish give plots to 2794 persons. 2000 per­ eggs and breeding grounds? Will he sons were given plots. Only 794 also enlighten the House what is this persons were left without plots. 5-fathom rule that is prev^alent and Again there were 80 plots and why it is being allowed to be viola­ they resorted to drav/ of which ted? had never happened in the case of refugees. In the case of resettlement SHRI SUE JIT SINGH BARN ALA: of refugees from Punjab, draw of The guidelines provide that upto 5 kms lots was never resorted to. I regret to from the sea coast only the traditional say that the Minister has told a de­ fishermen can do fishing. Beyond 5 putation that Bengalis have no place kms upto 10 kms. small mechanised in Delhi. I would like to know whether boats can operate and beyond 10 kms Government would consider provid­ bigger vessels of more than 25 tonnes ing plots to these people in Chitran- can operate. So far as West Bengal. jan Park or in th? alternative to pro­ Karnataka and Gujarat are concerfted, vide plots in other colonies v\^hich are these States have written to us that being developed by DDA? Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers i 8 I? qpRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: Pri- SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: The marily I would to correct the infoima- Chittaranjan Park Colony itself is a tion of the hon. Member that this EBDP colony; where East Pakistan scheme was considered only with re­ refugees are to be settled. So, to say gard to a particular number of per­ that it was stated that they have no sons. About 2000 plots were developed. p ace here is not correct. Applications were invited and in the SHRI K. GOPAL: First of all, I first instance, 175Q application^ cam e would like to question the Minister's out of which 1453 applicants were statement that they had fixed a parti- found to be eligible. All o! tbem were cular number of refugees. It is not given plots. Soma plots were still so: the criterion was that those who there. So, again applications were were gainfully employed for four invited on 13th August, 1967; 752 years up to 31st March 1966 were persons applied out of which 467 per- entitled. No number was fixed: you .sons were found eligible. All of them will agree with me. So, don’t say that were accommodated. 82 plots still re­ 2000 persons or some other number mained. As far as the original part of was fixed. the commitment was concerned, it was fully met. Secondly, what is the answer in re­ gard to the second part of my supple­ Again, as many of them as applied mentary as to whether you are pre­ for allotment of plots were given and pared to rehabilitate these refugees all of them were fully accommodated. in other parts—not necessarily in It was only for the 82 plots which Chittaranjan Park but in other areas were left that applications were in­ which the DBA is going to develop? vited and this time 794 applications SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: Those came. So, there is no question of en­ people who were entitled under the larging the scope of this particular scheme. Of course, there are five plots scheme as originally conceived have all been allotted. No further develop­ of 450 :?q. yards and 50 plots of 533 ment of lands in Chittaranjan Par

SHRI K. GOPAL,: I asked whether for the rehabilitation of refugees the Government will consider their from East Pakistan. The eligibility rehabilitation not necessarily in Chit- criterion was the same in the case of taranjan Park but in any other area. those who have already been reha­ bilitated. But my question is: whether 9JiRl SIKANDAR BAKHT: It can it is not the commitment of the be only to the extent of the remain­ Government of India to rehabilitate ing 82 plots in the Chittaranjan Park, all the eligible persons in Delhi, par­ plus 50 plots of 533 sq. metres plus ticularly in this case? That is why five plots of 450 sq. metres. There is the Government is going back upon no further scheme which the Govern­ the commitment in the case of 690 ment is considering. displaced persons who are found to fvim ?mfT be eligible and in view of the fact that the Government made a state­ ment on 4th August 1978 in this very «RT ^ ^ House that “the Government shall take every effort to rehabilitate all these persons who are eligible for rehabili­ frqjpft t ^ ’RTEt ^ ^ tation”, May I know from the hon. irfTTT ^ ^ fer f ^ ^ I Minister why the Government is going back upon the commitment made to the House?

« ITTFT ^ ^ I TTo JTT SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: The Government is not going back upon the commitment. As far as this par­ ^ ?»TT ^ ^ CTTf^ ticular scheme was concerned, this WTT WTTO TT ? scheme was totally outside the scheme conceived for the rehabilitation of the ift f fsFT ^ cRT^ ^ refugees from East Pakistan. This was iFt I ^ ^RT in fact a special scheme undertaken for special reasons. The question of qrt H ^ fw ^ t rehabilitation is there. But the com­ i ^ ^ ^ iTo mitment is not there as far as these ^vTTTT ^ t ^ ^ refugees are concerned. ^ rn+i"T ^ ^ ^ f%qr ? SHRI BUOY SINGH KAHAR: I would like to know from the Minister ^ ^ ^ ^T\ ^

NCERT National Science Talent there is a lot of favourism and ne­ Search Scheme potism going on in the N. C. E. R. T. for the last several years. The body + which is primarily established to look *109. SHRI PRADYUMNA BAL: after the educational system in this country has sadly and badly failed to SHRI SAUGATA ROY: achieve its purpose. For example, the Will the Minister of EDUCATION, Minister says that there is no provi­ SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE sion for giving scholarship to students be pleased to state; going abroad. (a) whether the NCERT grants I want to know from the Minister scholarship to talented school stu­ specifically, when Prof. Nurul Hasan dents to build up India’s scientific was the Education Minister, did he manpower; enunciate the policy to give scholar­ ship to students studying abroad under (b) if so, the amount spent by NCERT scheme; if so, is the Minister NCERT each year on this account; aware that Prof. Nurul Hasan’s child­ (c) whether it has come to the notice ren were abroad under such a scheme? Of Government that several National Whether they were recipient of this Science Talent Search Scheme Scholars benefit through NCERT? go abroad to study; and DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- (d) if so, the steps taken or proposed DER: I have already said that the to be taken by Government to check NCERT started this scholarship jfor brain drain in National Science Talent encourag'ing study ^n basic s|pience. Search Scheme scholars? Now, this has been expanded also to include not only the basic science but THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, also the engineering, medicine, social SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE sciences and agricultural sciences. Now- (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- some of these scholars want to go DER) out and study abroad. Only 90 aw^- (a) Yes, Sir. ardees have applied for continuation of NCERT scholarship for study ab­ (b) Approximately Rs. 40 lakhs road. Out of these, only 24 have been per year. given some marginal benefit. Which particular Minister’s son has been (c) The N. C. E. R. T. does not have awarded that or not, that informa­ any record about the number of na­ tion is not with me. I would like to tional Science Talent Search Scholars have a notice for that. who have gone abroad for higher studies. However, uptil now 90 awar­ MR. SPEAKER: He wants, notice dees have applied for continuation of for that. NSTS Scholarship for studies abroad and only 24 have been paid marginal SHRI PRADYUMNA BAI^: In the assistance. rejoinder to the Minister’s reply, this is not my supplementary. He has men­ (d) Since study abroad is not con­ tioned in his original statement about sidered as a brain drain, Government marginal benefit. He does not spell do not propose to take any steps in out what is this marginal benefit. this regard. MR, SPEAKER: You have not ask­ SHRI PRADYUMNA BAL: Sir, the ed for that. You may now put your N. C. E. R. T. is primarily engaged in second supplementary. educational policy from the second­ ary schoool level to the University SHRI PRADYUMNA BAL: How level. I have reasons to behave that many students, who have received 23 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 27. 1978 Oral Answers 24

HCERT schalarship during the last HTMTfvrq ft ^ I fnra^^ iive years are sons and relatives of VIPs like Ministers; IAS officers and political leaders and what is the ;ftf^ I cTt t ^ g I number of such students who belong to ordinary common families? In ^ sTvnr wnft : ^ view of the existing conditions in the 3ft NCERT, whether the Minister will

¥To JT?Tn iT 15 major and 77 medium schemes were received from the Government 3150 ^ ^ 90 of Andhra Pradesh for approval from tnmffir # ^ ^ ^ the First Plan period upto 31st October ^ ^ I ^ ^ 24 ^ ^ 1978. Of these, 10 major and 68 me­ Oral Antwers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 2& 25 dium schemes have been approved. 5 26 Musi Project major and 9 medium schemes are un­ 27 Rajorisunda Diversion Scheme der examination at present. 28 Jutapalli 1. List of major and medium schemes 29 Paidgam approved upto 31st October^ 1978: 30 Paleru Bitragunta 31 Salivagu A. Major 32 Zurreru 1 K.. C Canal 33 Lakhnapur 2. Tungabhadra L.L.C. 34 Ramadagu 3 Kadam 35 Torvigedda 4 Tungabhadra H.L.C.—I. 36 Swarna 5 Nagarjunasagar 37 Bahuda 6. Pochampad Stage—I. 38 Vottigedda 7 Tungabhadra H.L.C. Stage—II. 39 Pampa 8 . Godavari Barrage 40 Varaha 9 Vamsadhara Stage—I. 41 Lankasagar 10 Somasila Phase—I. 42 Nallavagu B. Medium 43. Kotipallivagu 1 Bandakethu Channel 44 Guntur Channel 2. Bhimanapalli 45 Pedankalem 3 Bhairvantippa 46 Krishnapuram 4 Chennarayaswamigudi 47 Thandava Reservoir 5 Gambhiramgadda 48. Kanupur Channel 6 Kalangi 49 Ukachattivagu Project 7. Koilsagar 50 Ganipalam 8 Krishna Barrage 51 Gajuladinne 9 Lower Sagilieru 52 Pulivandla Canal 10 Malimagudu 53 Kothanpally Lift Irrigations 11 Nagavali Right side Canal 54 Paddavagu Reservoir 12 Nakal Gandi 55 Mukkamamidu 13 Narayanapuram Anicut 56 Boggulavagu 14 Paleru Reservoir 57 Jurala Lift 15 Pincha 58 Maddigedda Reservoir 16 Ramperu Drainage 59 Pedderu Reservoir Stage—L 17 Rallpadu Stage—II. 60 Jallaru Reservoir 18 Sarda Sagar 61 Raiwada Reservoir 19 Seetanagaram Anicut 62 Suvarnamikhi Gomukhi 20 Siddalagandi 63 Vottivagu 21 Sirala 64 Malluruvagu 22 Upputeru Lower Anicut 65 Konam Reservoir 23 Upper Penner 66 Gundlavagu 24 Vidyaranya Swamigudi 67 Satanala 25. Vegavathi Anicut 68 Taliperu ^7 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Oral Answers 28

II. List of major and medium schcmes SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: which are at present under exaini- I would like to know the names of nation ; the completed projects. A. Major SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: 1. Pochampad Project Stage—II. Completed major projects— 2 Singur Project 1 K. C. Canal 3 Yeleru 2. Tungabhadra L.L.C. 4. Modernisation of Krishna Delta System A.P. 3 Kadam 5 Modernisation of K. C'. Canal of 4 Tungabhadra H.L.C.—1 Tungabhadra Project. and out of medium— B. Medium May 1 give the list? 1 Thammileru MR. SPEAKER: You please place 2. Gandipalem it on the Table because this is a long 3 Krishnapuram Reservoir list. 4. Madduvalasa Reservoir Scheme SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: 5 Cheyyeru Project Yes. it is a long list. 6 Jhanjhavathi Reservoir 7 Modernisation of L.L.C. of Tunga­ SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: bhadra Project In the 22 medium projects, there are 8 Modernisation of H.L.C. of Tunga­ backward people. Backward people bhadra Project are suffering. Will the Government consider to declare these areas as 9 Varadarajaswamy backward areas to enable them as SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: take the benefits of backward areas? According to the statement 15 major and 77 medium schemes were received SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: from the Government. Of these 10 There is no question of declaring those major and 60 medium schemes have areas as backward areas and there been approved. Out of these how many is no consideration for that. have actually been executed? How much money has the Government of SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: India contributed for these projects May I know about the modernisation to be constructed or completed from of K. C. Canal of Tungabhadra Pro­ the 1st Plan to 31st Octol:>er, 1978. ject whether the estimates have been submitted by the State Governments MR. SPEAKER: That is very diffi­ and whether any clearance had been cult to give. It is a very long thing. given by this Government for the early execution of modernisation of SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: K. C. Canal? The answer has been given that in the First Five Year Plan 230 and Is there any scheme for supply of odd. . . water from River Krishna to Madras City linked up with the diversion of SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA: Krishna water of Royalseema? Have Out of these ten approved major sche­ the estimates of these projects also mes, four have been completed. Out been submitted by the Government of of 68 medium approved schemes, 46 Andhra Pradesh jointly with the other have been completed and the alloca­ scheme for approval? If so, what is tion made in the First Plan was Rs. the action that Government proposes 57,46,00,000. to take in this matter? Cfral Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30 29 SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA: of recognition of women’s contribution A bout modernisation of K. C. canal to family income and gross national of th e Tungabhadra Project, the State product. Gox'crnment has been asked to furnish the requisite information as per letter (d) The reaction of the States and dated 3rd February, 1977. Replies have Union Territories is reflected in the not yet ben received. That is the po­ resolution passed at the Conference sition. which says : — “Consistent with the new Plan MR. SPEAKER: You pleases place Strategy for generating employment (ho answer on the Table. opportunities in rural areas and re­ Women's Development CoiT*oration cognising the need for augmenting + family incomes, the women may be ♦114. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: enabled more and more to take part SHRI RAMACHANDRAN in economic activities and accord­ KADANNAPPALLI: ingly it is resolved to set up, in as many States as may elect to do so, Will the Minister of EDUCATION, Women’s Economic Development SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE Corporations as Government Com- be pleased to state: pani^, in which the Central Gov­ ernment, the State Government, the (a) whether tne States have been Women beneficiaries and other de- '-^sked to examine the need for setting Developmental or financial institu­ up Women Development Corporation tions may participate.” to promote economic activities of wo­ men particularly in rural and urban SHRI P. M. SAYEED: It is a happy slums; co-incidence that the question con­ cerns about the formation of women (b) if so, whether Department of development corporations and hon. Social Welfare has drawn the atten­ Minister happens to be the woman tion of the States that the status of Minister. The bon. Minister has al­ women can be raised only if their ready visited my area, . contribution to family income and She knows that there is no elected feross national product is recognised; Government there. I want to know whether any invitation was offered to (c) whether the Union Territories Lakshadweep Administration; if so, including Lakshadweep has been ask­ who represented Lakshadweep in this ed to do the needful; and very conference? (d) if so, what are the reactions of SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARA- the States and Union Territories in this KATAKI: The meeting was held in regard? the last quarter of September only and the representative of the Laksha­ THE MINISTER OP STATE IN dweep Administration was present in THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, the meeting. The suggestions are SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE under consideration of the State Gov­ (SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARA- ernments as well as the Government KATAKI) : (a) to (c). The need for of India. The Lakshadweep Admi­ setting up Women’s Ekionomic Deve­ nistration was also considering the lopment Corporation in all States and matter. Uptil now, we have not re­ Union Territories including Laksha­ ceived any request from Lakshadweep. dweep, to promote economic activities of women was discussed in the Confe­ MR. SPEAKER: Who represented rence of State Ministers of Social Wei. Lakshadweep in that conference? fare held in Delhi on 25-26 September, 1978. In the Conference, emphasis SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARA- was given to, among others, the need KATAKI: Representatives from the Written Answers 31 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 3z

Administration of Lakshadweep rep- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND rcfsented. i HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR SHRI P. M. SAYEED: How many BAKHT) : (a) Employees working in States have opted for forming the wo­ OflBces located outside the limits of men development corporations and the Calcutta Corporation and the what would be the share of the Cen­ Howrah Municipality are not eligible tral Government if all the State Gov­ for allotment of accommodation from ernments and Union Territories cpt the general pool. for forming such corporations? (b) ^o Sir. We are not aware of any such agreement. SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARA- KATAKI: Uptil now, there are two (c) Does not arise. eorporations—one in Andhra Pradesh and another in . After this conference many State Govern­ Break-through in Rural Development ments are in dialogue with us. Pun­ jab has practically decided to form *106. SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: this type of corporation. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to MR. SPEAKER : Question Hour is state: J over. (a) the precise break-throughs which Government have made in the field of rural development to bring about a comprehensive employment genera­ tion efTort; and WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (b) particulars of the monitoring done with regard to rural development Government Accommodation for the p r o je c ts and the findings made so far Employees of Botanical Garden, by Such monitoring? Calcutta THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ♦103. SHRI DINEN BHATTA- MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND CHARYYA: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUP­ TAP SINGH) : (a) Removal of un- PLY AND REHABILITATION be employment and significant under­ pleased to state: employment has been recognised as one of the principal objectives of the (a) whetner the Minister is aware current plan. The achievement of about the fact that the employees of employment objective depends cru­ Botanical Survey of India stationed in cially on increased labour absorption Celcutta are being denied of their en­ in agriculture and allied activities. titlement of residential accommodation This means increasing the productivi­ from General Pool, Calcutta on the ty of land through irrigation, multi­ plea that Indian Botanical Garden is ple-cropping and improved technolo­ not within Howrah Municipality; gy. The main thrust of planning stra. tegy, therefore, would be to expand (b) if so, whether the Minister is area under irrigation as rapidly as may also aware that this is in violation of be possible and develop agricultural an agreement between the authorities practices w-hich optimise the use of and the employees Association; unr land and water resources. To maxi­ mise employment in agriculture, it is (c) if so, the reaction of the Govern­ proposed not only to provide for in­ ment thereto? frastructure and inputs which increase 33 Written Answers AGFAHAYANA 6. 1900 (SAKA) WHtten Answers 34

physical productivity but also (i) to not only assist the individual but also push forward the implementation of add to the growth potential of the area land distribution programme and concerned and generate a self sustain­ schemes for the consolidation of hold­ ing process of growth* The stra- ings. (ii) To regulate the growth of Xagy that has been drawn up also takes farm mechanisation to ensure maxi­ account of the crucial role to be play­ mum labour use consistent with opti­ ed by rural industries and rural arti­ mum land and water utilisation. En­ sans prograimme if a significant dent hanced employment opportunities are is to be made on the problem of un­ sought to be created by development employment. Attempts will, there­ jn animal husbandry, horticulture, fore, be made to promote rural indus­ forestry and fisheries sectors also tries and artisans programmes and to where the scope for expansion is even improve the quality of production in higher than in agriculture. A marked rural industries, increase productivity, increase in agricultural employment is reduce cost and expand their market. expected to lead to a significant The District industries centres which growth in secondary employment in are expected to progressively cover rural area, in distribution and trans­ the whole country will open new ave- port and in teretiary employment in nues of employment in subsidiary other economic activities generated by occupations, small industries, trade and thc' growth of rural income. services activities, etc., by playing a positive role in identifying and assist­ ing entrepreneurs to set up small in­ On a review of on-going special dustries and market their produce. It programmes of rural development, is hoped that this new approach to the Government have decided to take up rural development will result in a maj6r break-through and lead to a an ijilensive Programme of Develop­ ment with the specified objective of comprehensive employmtent effort linked with the creation of productive achieving the g<> 2il of full employment in 1000 blocks by March 1981 and assets. anotier 1000 blocks by March 1983. Additional allocation of funds over and (b) The new strategy in the field of above the present allocation of Rs. 5 rural development has just been lakhs per block to achieve this objec­ evolved. The monitoring that has tive will be considered. Besides, in­ been done so far therefore relates to tensive block-level planning will also on-going rural development program­ be undertaken in 300 blocks in the mes such as the SFDA, DPAP and year 1978-79, to which 300 blocks will CAD. These programmes are being be added every year upto 1982-83. regularly monitored. It may be said Thus the number of these blocks where that broadly the programmes have block level planning will be taken up achieved the objectives set for them. will go Up to 3500 blocks by 1982-83. Monitoring done in respect of the Though thfe prdvl^lon block in the three sp’ccial programmes of SFDA, current yfeat is only Rs. 2 Ikkhs, this DPAP and CAD has, however, indi­ can be st^{)ed Up suitably later on. cated certain constraints which have Various beneficiary-oriented schemes adversely ttffected the performance of in the fields of minor irrigation, agri­ these programmes. In respect of culture, animal husbandry, etc., be­ SFDA there had been time-lag in the sides construction works by State and ertroleifient of identified farmers ad private institutions are expected to ge­ members of Cdopewttives; thwe hav^ nerate significant employment oppor. been d^ficioftciel In the distribution of tunities. Though the schemes to be inputs in a miA^ber of |>foi^tfl. Miridr ^aken up are expected to be benefi­ irciglttion schemei d 6 hot make ciary-oriented, the individual schemes slrod inrdgrcfts Oh aecouiit 6f frUgtn^ti^ be methM Into the overidl a^^a tatsbm hoUiBBS, IfieideH^ Plan st) tbat tke tffihenles u n d ertak e wetitt, dSmtadt terMKt l^rooMUirdl fle% 35 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers ^6

in sanctioning loans etc. The moni­ vrfwv vt ftrwt toring has also revealed that daii*y development schemes hold out promise ♦ 107. wafsT ft?? m of success where such schemes were ffWTT, VRTH organised under the aegis of efficiently managed cooperatives which cover dif­ ferent stages of operation such as col­ (^) ^ Hwrx ^ lection of milk, processing and distri­ fTOT ^ bution. Under the DPAP, efforts to switch over to a watershed manage­ ment concept have been slow in many parts of the country. Also, the Com­ (^) JTf? n'T mand Area Development approach was I sr^TT ? ? not adopted in the irrigated areas; field channels were not constructed and •fnfTT, VFiTFT VtK efforts at water management were TT^ twVT VnFEVt) : (^ ) often lacking. In afforestation, farm xftT (^) fwen, ^ TT^ forestry and social forestry have been neglected and emphasis has been most­ ^ ^ STTT ^ ^ I ly on raising forests on Gk)vemment land. A notable development effort «nrFf <, 1%STT has been the establishment of cattle ^ (^eRTTT I-IV ,V ) rT^ and sheep breeders societies in some of the districts, particularly with VIII(fTTfi^ fit t I World Bank assistance. Under the 16 vrrftRT ^ ^ Command Area Development Pro­ sfPTT % tn 1 gramme, the flow Of long-term loans ffT;i^R7 t, ^ 5 T T ^ ^ ^ to farmers from the financial institu­ % f^P7 ^ I tions has been tardy. A number of Command Area authorities could not %fwrsn, w - make sufficient progress on account of f?T:VT^ fTFTOn mRdlTV ^ ^ inadequate organisational set up. In ^ i%TT I I some cases, the working season avail­ ^TPtr, able for executing On Farm Develop­ Prof ^ % ment work is very short, as in the ^tiTCT WT^TT TT^ TRTRt JTTT Chambal Command Area of . ^ H ^ ^3TT?ft t I To correct this situation, crop compen­ sation has been given to farmers in the Rajasthan Chambal CAD Project Retention of Government Accommoda­ area who would have to forego one tion by Deputationists crop. •110. SHRI B. P. MANDAL: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ Under the new programme of Inte­ ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABI­ grated Rural Development, efforts are LITATION be pleased to state: being made to minimiae the prob­ (a) whether Ministry of Works and lems which have adversely affected Housing has amended rules to facili­ the performance of the on-going spe­ tate Central Government Officers to cial programmes. Also an integrat­ retain accommodation at Delhi if on ed approach is proposed to be follow­ deputation to , , Tri­ ed so as to bring about integration in pura, , Lakshadweep, , development of agriculture including , Andaman and Ni- its allied activities, village and cottage cobar Islands; industies, teretiary sector employment in the various marketing and process­ (b) whether such facilities will be ing services, labour mobilisation, utilised by such officers even if they training in acquiring new skills etc. get accommodation or accommodation Written Answers AGKAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

allowance at the aforesaid places and THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND thereby may have double accommoda­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ tion facilities, namely, one at Delhi and HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR the other at the deputed station; and BAKHT) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(c) what is the justification of pro- \iding such facilities to these officers (b) and (c). Housing is a State when large number of officers are subject. The Central financial assis­ without accommodation? tance for all State sector programmes including housing is released only to the State Governments in the shape THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND of ‘block loans’ and ‘block grants’ and HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ nOt to the State Housing Boards. No HABILITATION (SHRl SIKANDAR specific scheme for constructin of BAKHT): (a) In June, 1978, orders houses exclusively for the economical­ were issued permitting retention of ly weaker sections has been received General Pool accommodation in Delhi from the State Government of Kerala. on the following grounds, by Central Government employees deputed to However, Housing and Urban De­ these places : velopment Corporation have sanction­ (i) Their children are studying in ed 21 schemes (including one Rural higher classes or in collegs in Housing Scheime) of Kerala State Delhi. Housing Board which amongst others includes construction of 27,647 EWS (ii) The health of the family tenements. members or immediate dependents requires continuous medical atten­ tion. Committee to study Sug^ar Industry’s (b) There is no bar to the officers PUght utilising this concession even if they get accommodation at the place of ♦115. SHRI JANARDHANA POO- their deputation. JARY: Will the Minister of AGRI­ CULTURE AND IRRIGTION be pleas­ (c) The concession has been given ed to state: keeping in view the difficulties the officers have been facing at these (a) whether Government have ap­ places. pointed a Committee to study the sugar industry's plight in the country; and Houses for the Economically weaker sections in Kerala (b) if so, the details in this regard? M il. SHRI K. A. RAJAN: WiU the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABI­ MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND LITATION be pleased to state: IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- TAP SINGH) ; (a) and (b). No (a) whather the Kerala State Hous­ Committee has been appointed by the ing Board ha? evolved certain schemes Government to study the sugar indus- ° provide houses for the economically try’s problem in general. However, a weaker sections in the State; Ministerial Committee was constituted to finalise the matter concerning take (b) whether the Board has sought over of certain sugar mills which nanciai assistance from the Centre either do not start crushing on an ap­ Or their implementation; and pointed date, stop crushing before the if so, the details thereof and end of the average period or have ar­ overnment’s response thereto? rears of cane dues above a certain 39 Written Amwers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 40 limit. Accordingly, the Sugar Under­ the survey conducted by the National takings (Taking Over of Management) Sample Survey and the estimates Ordinance, 1978 was promulgated on made by the National Buildings Orga­ gHh November, 1978. nisation, the housing shortage on the eve of the Fifth Five Year Plan was 15.6 million housing units in the coun­ try. A perspective plan has been drawn up by the Government to aim ♦ 116 ift wiff : ^ Pmbr «ftr at clearing the housing backlog and wnwTR f(w\ jfif r tr 5^1^ ^ ^ meeting the additional demand due to population growth and replacement of (^) WT ^ ^ ^ ^ unusable houses over a period of 20 iT^TRf 7 t ; ye&rs. 2. During the current Five Year (»&) nft fft Plan (1978—83), an outlay of Rs. 1538 crores, Which is two and a half rimes more than the allocation made in the Pnrfw ifK vTwnn 5[fiT wVr last Plan, has been made. An amount (irt ftwfS'fTWW) :(lf) ?fWT (W).ift, Of Rs. 500 crores has been exclusively cro ft, fjRTO XTrfOTT”! ^ earmarked for rural housing. 'fhis ^HTT %n^4[ gm *iT4«S, rrirr ^ ? scale of investment will hardly be suf­ ^.5Rf 5^T 5Ff?m w* unr^ h ficient to solve this gigantic problem. '^ ' t ^ ?Tfftr ?ft ^ ^ ?T^ sEftr Suitable action is being taken for res­ ^ ^ I ^ F^rfert tricting utilisation of public funds for (i) HFTifr U^^w>T. construction of houses for low income l^TR ^ ^ (i i ) ^ and economically weaker section tar­ srrfirspTTifT ^ ^ ^ (iii) get groups. Provision of incentives to STrfQ^TTun ?!■ jf?^ %f\T ^ private investors in housing in the ^jfe^TT^t ^ ^PTT % I shape of tax rebate, availability of ijofjouo^ ^ land at reasonable prices, etc. are 2 ^ TTf%^'f ^ ^ being Considered, so as to attract the ^?rftr ^ ifr^ ti^n ^ jtt fr^rivr JJrivate sector towards the building in­ #rrt HT^TW ^ *^

New Housing Policy 3. To make the optimum use of resources in the low cost housing sec­ ♦117. SHRIMATI PARVATHI tor, the programme of ‘Sites and Ser­ KRISHNAN: vices’ will be given the higehst priority so as to provide shelter to the largest SHRI JANESHWAR PRASAD number of persons in this category. YADAV:

Will the Minister of WORKS AND Houses fop Workers under Hire Pur­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- chase Selieiiie HABILITATION be pleased to state: •118. 3hR t SUBHASH CHANDRA BOSE ALLUtH,: (a) whether Government have evol­ ved a new housing policy; and SHRI D. AMAT : (b) if so, the salient features there­ Will the Minister of WORKS AND of? HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HABILITAftbN fee pleased to state: THE MINISTER o F WORKS AND (a) the nunibt^t of thdustHal Work­ HOUSING AND 6UPPI.Y AND BM- ers provided housfes by the Cefitral HABtUTATIDN (SIW STBANBAR Housing doatd Uhdet the hire purchase BAKH3') ; (a) and (fat). Aceoitlhig to scheme during ^ last one year; and 41 Written Answers AGrRAHAYANA 6, i900 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 (b) the names of the States which (^) ^ ^ ^ flHit ^ h^ve implemented this scheme? i 1972 % ^ 'Tjftr *Ft ^ I ^ ST^TR t h e m in is t e r o f w o r k s a n d UTOftr I ; rfh: h o u s in g a n d s u p p l y a n d r e . (^) 1972 ^ 197S HABILITATION (SHRI s ik a n d a r BAKHT): (^) and (b). The Integrat­ i ^ ^ TTftnff ^ ^ ed Subsidised Housing Scheme for ^ WT ^ I, 55ftr ^'t ^ t liidu^tn^^l WprHerg and Economically w t • Weaker Sections of Community is exe­ cuted by all the tate Governments/ ftfe ffwif Raft («ft gr^iftcT Union Territory Administrations, ex- cuted by all the State Governments/ ^ ^ ^rnff pura, Dadrfi and Naga^y Haveli, Aruna- ch^^l Pr^idesh, Lakshadweep, Mizoram f^irr m j t ^ Trf?r and An(Jamap^ and Nicobar Islands. It envisaged, as far as industrial workers 3,38, 834 4 1 W ^ I "^r-=5qr?nT W I are concerned, provision of housing on iftpr ^mjrr^o Z\o— 28 67, 78j rental basis only. (^) 1,54,3?5. 07 ^ I The Government of India have taken a dec ision to permit the State Govern- (^) ^ ment;^ to sell the houses built for the industrial workers under this scheme, ^ ^ ^«JT to the existing occupants, and this de­ 1 97 2 ^ 134 5Tt 2,49,036. 47 cision has been communicated to all ^ ^snrnrf^ ^ the State Governments and Union Ter­ ritory Administrations on the 9th Feb­ ruary, 1978. (^) ^ ^ 1+) ^ ^ According to the information re­ 52TT5r ceived from the State Governments -nd Union Territory Administrations, tho above decision has not been imple­ mented by them Sq far. However, the matter is under conaideration, at va­ Operation Flood Prosrramme rious stages, by the State Govern­ ments. *120. SHRI NATHUNI RAM: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: ftrot 5»B nbRT ^ §iNtT WTTW (a) whether ‘Operation Flood Pro­ gramme' is implemented through National Dairy Development Board *119. rnTPTinw : ^ fffli wk (NDDB), a private organisation regis­ tered under Bombay Charitable Trust ^ f 24 1978 ^ sm 1191^ TOT ^ Act in 1966; (b) whether Chairman of the Na­ (v) ^ 3,380,34.41 ^ ^ tional Dairy Development Board is ^ ftR 5*VRf iftr Tlftr also Chairman of Gujarat Milk Mar­ ; keting Federation, was General Man­ ager of Amul and is now Chairman (5 ) ^ ^ flT f of the Managing Committee D.M.S and if so, steps taken to protect the 1971 ^ ^ ^ interests of Government Milk W I ; Schemes; 43 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 44

(c) whether “Gift Milk Powder” was (d) A total quantity of 4,805 tonnes sold to D.M.S. at Rs. 12 per Kg. but of WFP skim milk powder and 1829 the same was sold at Hs. 6 per Kg. tonnes of WFP butter oil was sup­ to Mother Dairy and if so, details plied to Amul Dairy from 1970-71 to thereof; and 1977-78 under Operation Flood Pro­ gramme out of 1,00,068 tonnes of SMP and 34,571 tonnes of butter oil receiv­ (d) how much of the Gift Milk ed in all. Further these quantities Powder, butter, butter oil was divert­ were released against supply of liquid ed to Amul during ‘Operation flood milk to the Greater Bombay Milk period’? Scheme as provided in the operation Flood Programme.

THE MNISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATON (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA) : (a) The Opera­ 986. SRHI R. K MHALGI: Will the tion Flood Programme is being imple­ Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IR­ mented through the Indian Dairy Cor­ RIGATION be pleased to state: poration, a Government company es­ tablished under the Companies Act. The National Dairy Development (a) whether it is a fact that Gov­ Board was established by the Gov­ ernment have received a represen­ ernment of India and is not a private tation dated 24th December, 1977 organisation. It is the apex technical from CWPRS (Central Water and advisory and consultancy body to Gov­ Power Research Station) Khadak- ernment of India in dairy develop­ wasala, Pune (Maharashtra) regard­ ment. ing “Application of concordance Table and Five Year review promotion system’’ to Central Water and Power (b) Yes, Sir. The Anand pattern of Research Station, Pune; and co-operative organisation has been ac­ cepted by Government to be the basis (b) if so, what action have Govern­ for dairy development in the country. ment taken or propose to take in re­ This is the organisational structure gard to the same? which the Operation Flood Program­ me seeks to create in all States. Cuc- cessful experience in the implementa­ tion of the Anand pattern in Amul and THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ around in fact provides the logic for TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI the Chairman NDDB and IDC being SURJIT SINGH BARNALA) : (a) appointed to look after the D.M.S. as Yes, Sir. Chairman of its Management Com­ mittee. In fact, this arrangement is (b) The officers of the C.W.&P.R.S. expected to protect the interests of the (Central Water and Power Research departmental scheme. Station) constitute a Scientific Cadre. As per the Third Pay Commission’s (c) No, Sir. S.M.P. from gift sup­ recommendations, the application of plies from W.F.P. have been sold to Concordance Table for the purposes of both the dairies at the same price of fixation of pay are applicable only to Rs. 6.50 per kg. However, some allot­ organised non-technical Services and ments of SMP have also been made are not to be extended to officers of to DMS by Government out of the scientific cadre. For scientific cadre, commercial quota at the pool price of scheme of flexible complementing or Rs. 12 per kg. Allotment from the Five Year review promotion scheme commercial quota at the said pool are the other alternative suggestions price for Mother Dairy has also been which are under consideration of Gov­ begun in tJhe last year. ernment. Written Answers AGBAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

Accumiilation of Fertilisers with (c) As is well known, administra­ Fertiliser Units tion of land reform laws is a State subject. However, the Government of 987. SHRI AMARSINH V. RATHA- India have been constantly urging WA : Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ State Governments to accelerate the TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased pace of implementation and to remove to state: patent shortcamings in their legisla­ tions. (a) whether a huge stock of fertili­ sers have accumulated with several veral fertiliser units; and (b) if so, the reasons thereof and the action taken by Government to clear such stock so that it may reach 989. ^ ^ w k f t n n f the consumers? THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ ( ^ ) gTTT ^ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ^ ^ qr iw mxW ^ ^ SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) No, ^ t‘ ; Sir. (b) Question does not arise. (w) wm f^TT affrf zfrjpTT irr Committee to review implementation ?ft ^ w ifhRT q r ?TRT?T ? of Land Reforms in States

988. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: ffe Rmrf ^ gnfhr Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE wT^rmr) : (^) ^ ^ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state : ^3TT^ ^ I ^ ^TT, ^ 1 9 7 8 - (a) whether his Ministry constitut­ 79 5?^ 2TTf ^ ed a committee to review the imple­ 4 ,4 8 f I mentation of Land Reform implement­ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ fm, 3 ed by the States; ^ ^ (b) if so, the findings of that com­ t ffRT ’sftr mittee, State-wise; and ^rr t3[^ fcTTITrEfhT ^ I (c) the steps taken by the Centre for time-bound implementation of ^ PmW % 3 "i4 ^qtr ^ Land Reforms and the States which have not so far achieved the target? ^ 1972 ^ f^znvgnqFT ^ ^ 1 <, 1978 ^ THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ 5. 1 Fqn_ «PT 5ITJT | I ^ ^ a n d ir r ig a t io n TURE (SHRI 1981 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ V r TT I I SURJIT SING|H BARNALA): (a) Yes, Sir. Committee on Funds to State (b) The Committee has recently submitted its first report wherein it Cooperative Banks has reconmiended that all land reform 990. SHRI NATWAR LAL B. PAR- laws assented to by the President MAR: Will the Minister of AGRICUL- should be included in the Ninth Sche- TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased <^ule to the Constitution, the pre­ to state: sent Explanation in the said Sche­ dule should be deleted, and the machi- (a) whether the National Co-opera­ ^®ry for disposal of land reform cases tive Union of India (NCUI) had sub­ should be strengthened. mitted to Government an expert Com- 47 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers mlttee's report in the matter of sup­ plying funds to State Co-operative Banks; 992. wcw ; >PTr WinN fftr inW?WiWT y (b) if sO, the details thereof; and

(c) the reaction of Government (V) ^ Wk *RIT?T*T thereto? H ^ 'THT,

^ ^ apH t {iftK ^ qr^ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ^ }cr ^ ^ ozfTTT THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE ¥iIT I) fftr ^ ^ ^ AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH): (a) No, Sir. I ijk 'TT w ^ t ; (b) and (c). Do not arijse.

{^) ^ ^ ^ ^ I Renovation of Vigyan Bhawan, ^ ^ *PTT f ? New Delhi

991. s m u CHATURBHUJ: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ to ING AND SUPPLY a n d REHA­ iftr WRTH ^ iftr V BILITATION be pleased to state: WW) : (^t) # ^

(a) whether Government propose to ^ renovate the Vigyan Bhawan in New ^ t I VmW #t • Delhi; fWT ^Twf?nT ^ % 5Tnr 5ft% fttr jpr 5 :— (b) if so, at what cost; and

(c) the salient features thereof? 5TTO >5it ^'Vo THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ (^) ^ ^ ^ ^ f?T7m HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER ITTT ^r?mr ^ v BAKHT).: (a) Yes, Sir. OTT f^nnr ^ ^

(b) Rs. 1.83 crores approximately. 5RR I I ^ 3nFR PfiHT # ^ W I •— (c) (1) Renovation of Main Hall, Committee/Commission rooms, V.I.P. rooms and lounges with new furniture, ( 1) ’TT^fT *rf^ carpets and curtains, false ceiling and ( 2) acoustic treatment of walls. Seating capacity of main hall, Commission and ( 3) ^^TJT Committee rooms would be increased (4) ^nnrr and additional ^ace for lounges would be provided. (5 ) ^ (2) Sound system is to be improved (6) ITPf and simultaneous interpreter channels are to be increased. (7 ) A w i ^ fT^ f»Rft (3) lii^ ar# to be Air- ( 8) ^1^ , TTT conditioning capacity will be increased. ( 9) ilR prtt 49 Written Answers AGR^HAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

( 10) fe. fPT U.G.C. Grants to Uuiverslttes in Bihar ( 11) imRTT 993. SHRI SURENMIA JHA ( 12) io JTPtZ, 5^ SUMAN: Will the Minister of EDU­ 1 3) ih z 5TR 5^ ^ CATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND (14) »fn^ I CULTURE be pleased to state:

(a) the details of the grants given ^ ^ ^ ^r?T by the U.G.C. to the Universities in qr ^ t' ^ T rftiW i ^ Bihar during the last three years ^ fn I f^nnr s ttt (1975-76 to 1977-78) yearwise, Uni­ qt^ ciWtfT^ ^ ^ ^ I rftr versity wise; ?r^r ^ «ft fJTflW | f?r^ 7g>PTfinff 5f>T TO q r f^rrnr q r fe n w ^ (b) whether the number of the t f^rPrw sqff^li ^ ^?TR qr 1 students in a University is taken into 5,000 f^rfr^T szrfaRmf 9FT, ?T?^nST consideration while grants are sanc­ ?ni?TO ^ ftWT sr^ t ^ ^ tioned by the U.G.C.; and ^ I w ^ q-Prff #-■ ^ ^JT ^ ^ ?VtR ^ (c) whether the said criterian is iq^»tnrr »fH' ^ f 1 also aj^Iied at the time of sanctioning grants to the Universities of Bihar?

THE m in is t e ;r o f e d u c a t io n , SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) According to the infor­ 1975-76 89 . 00 85 . 82 mation furnished by the University Grants Commission, the details of 1976-77 127.60 121.01 grants given to the Universities in 1977-78 170. 15 164.92 Bihar during the last thre years, are as follows: —

Grants paid during Name of the University 1975-76 ' 976-77 1977.78

Bhagalpur • 9,32,812-13 21.78.975-50 16,52,782*62

Bihar . 11,09,407-94 6,27,570-00 25,46,401-40

Mithila 81,245’ 97 .37 * *57 Patna 14,13,821-32 47,92 »2* 3‘86 I,72,C42*32

Ranchi 35.3,*.640-96 22,21,510-00 • i4»30,547*37 Magadh • 3,45,604-95 16,45,027*36 15,25,750*62

K.S.D. Sanskrit . • 1, 35,000-00 5^34 500-00 4,66.cco.co

•• 20,633.26

(b) D«velQpment grionts to ®11 Uni­ mittees Comijiission versities are liwciioned by the Uni­ to assess tbe p n tg r» ^ es proix>se 4 by versity Grants Commission on the re­ th^ Univerpiities duping eadi {dan commendations of the Visiting Com­ period and the financial requirements 51 Written Annoert NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Anawers

to implement them, ^ e s e Com- (a) ttie assistance provided during mittees also take into account the the current year to flood tom Ladak; stages of devel(^»ment of various Uni- and versities including the student enrol- /u^ ^ ^ ment in the teaching departments. ^ ' “® details thereof?

, ^ t h e m in ist e r o f AGRICUL- (0) yes, bir. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA); (a) and (b). An amount of Rs. 26.35 Cwitial Aid to Flood Affected Ladakh lakhs has been allocated to the Gov- ernment of Jammu and Kashmir as 994. SHRIMATI PARVATI DEVI: advance Plan assistance in the cur- Will the Minister for AGRICULTURE rent financial year to meet the excess AND IRRIGATION be pleased to expenditure necessitated by the floods state: . , for the following items:

(Rs. in lakb»

1 Public Wmks 1. Restoration works of Stakna Hydcl Projcct . . 4.50

2. Restoration works ofiqbal bridge Hydcl Schemc at Kargil . . 0*50 500

II. Restoration of Irrigation and flood control works of P.W.D. 1. Irrigation works

(fl) Canals . . i . 00

(b) Khuls 4-00 2. Flood protecdon works . .... 0-50 5- 50

III. Rntoration of Irrigation and flood control works of C.D. and NES De­ partments.

(a) Canals and Khub 3.30 {b) Embankments . o* 70

(c) Foot paths and foot bridges o* 49 4 ‘ 49^

IV. Restoration of roads and bridges affected by floods . 5-00 5- 00

V. Reclamation of land and rehabilitaticn of di.'^pltccd pfi.‘crs vhc have lost their l a n d s ...... S'®®-

VI. Re^ration of damaged water Mills. . o* iB o* iS

V II. Assistance to provide ex-gratia pa>n ent at the avergpc rate ofRs.2,rr/- per house for reconstruction/repair of residential hcuit s . . o* 18 o* iB

V III. Free supply of saplings for reaforestation programnr cs to compcnFate loss/damage due to f l o o d s ...... i*oo i*o a

T o t a l 26*35

In addition, the Government of India have also allocated 217 tonnes of wheat as grant for distribution as gratuitous relief in the current flnan- cial year in the flood affected areas. 53 Written Answers AGB\HAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answeri 54

migwn, fiwrt ^ gftwnt (b) is it a fact that those children had made a representation to the Government to give leading facilities 995. «ft wnr i*»T fw : WT wnm ffWT ^ wTT 5P^whf to all the students who are studyig ^ f qr ^ Pr : so that they could carry on their studies further; and (^) fJTT IT^ ^ Pf ^ % (c) what decision has the Govern­ W^TX WTR iT^^smTT ment taken in this respect? ^ ^rf\r ?rrfOTt ^ ^ ^ «ftr f?^TRT t ; THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ (^) JTpf ^ ^ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR xftK ?nfeirt ^ PnrW ^ jtt BAKHT); (a) No, Sir. No such in­ ^ ^ qr ^ ^ formation has been received. ^ T?T ; «ftr (b) and (c). No such direct repre­ (^) ?fr ^'k Ti ^ w sentation has been received by this rTW^ ^f^HTTTT ^ 'SfTtrifV *rft Department. However the District ^rnrfr^ s i ^ ^ r ^ ^rpft | ’, Relief and Rehabilitation Officer, ^T f ? Maharashtra has forwarded a repre­ sentation from 43 High School Stu­ fkirf^ fftr WTWTH ?nif ir^ dents of Chandrapur (Maharashtra) («ft fTORTT WW) : (^) 3ft ^ I % for the grant of stipends in relaxation, ^fTTT 1 of the existing instructions. A deci­ sion is to be taken by the Government. (5t) (^) ^ ?TT g fk g n ft ^ 5IRRTTT Pt^r Pt^ht ^n" 5RT W\^ ^ TT«5 OTTT ^ WtfW 5^ ^ t I ^TRftrft ?HR P m ^ TOPf ^

^ SilfRTm#;T7R Pttht ffTTT 2TT 1 9 7 8 - 99 7. ITO Tn n ft fif|| : ^ fffflT; IHfTW- 79 ^ f^tr 50 ^ 5ir^?TT ^ ^if | I VFTTvr ^ ^ i^rr vPnrfiTcT ^ ;t r Ptto f%: §TTT 21^ JF t tT R %T^ ^ 41,000 ^ ^ ?fPTw ^ ?5f¥^ f^0T# ? n f^ ( ^ ) ^TH” ^ pF^ ^VrvpT?T ^^rnr ^ *ppf ^ i ?t*r P nm ^nft TTPirm ^ ifT-iTPim 3TTO ^ ^ TfT t ^ ^5fr ^ hV yr^Pr^' ^ m m

^ HT7T ^ JTBTPT ^ iftwr * ^ inr ^ 3Ftf vphrn^t ^ t ; Education of Children of RehabiUta- tion Camps (^) wm WTVR WT smrPTv fm r ^ qr vtH V miT Tc mmPT^ 996. SHRI RAJE VISHVESHVAR ^ ^ 3TT ^ ^ q>rT ^ *, a n d h o u s in g a n d s u p p l y a n d HIHABILITATION be pleased to (^ ) VTT ^ state: ^ ^ Hml^-VTpTV OT^rn* pRT ^ ITP? ^ ^ (a) is it a fact that the children in PrTTFTT; «ftT ^he rehabilitation camps are givin^g up their studies because of their (v) irfir ^Tf, ?fr ?Ti5 ^ - poverty; WT f r m 55 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27. 1978 Written Answers 56

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(b) how much stock of wheat, rice OconpensaUoQ to Owneri of Laud and other foodgrains Government Under Wat^ ^ c e Faraiciia Barrage presently has till the next crop comes Complex Operatiou into the market?

998. SHRI SASANKASEKHAR SANYAL: Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE be pleased to state whether Govern­ AND IRJUGATION (SHRI BHANU ment have considered the desirability PRATAP SINGH): (a) The total of compensating the owners of land* production of foodgrains during wihich were formally arable and have 1977-78 reached an all time high level for years been under water since of 125.6 millic^ tonnes. The prospects Fftrakka Barrage complex operation of production during the current year was started? also appear to be bright despite the fact that the crop during the kharif season hod been affected by floods in THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ certain areas. For the country as a TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI whole the over-all food production SURJIT SINGH BARNALA); All and supplies situation is quite good. the land which gets submerged and Accordingly there is no need to im­ area which is required for the opera­ port foodgrains for the present. tion of the Fara?^ha Barrage Project, has beea acquired or is under acquisi­ (b) According to the latest avail- tion at the cosrt ol the Project. In res­ a^e information, the stocks of cereals pect of the low-lying areas in Pagla with the PuWic agencies a^ on l.^t and Bmi^lpi river basins and Domos November, 1978 were approximately B ^ which get inundated due to the of the order of 163.5 lakh tonnes si^Uined flow in th^ feeder canj^l of comprising 102.1 lakh tonnes wheat, the Farakka Barrage, the Wei^t Benipl 6Qt7 lakh tonnes rice and 0.7 lakh Grovemment desired that instead of tonn^^ epf^se grainy, The kharif apquirix^ the land, ioTang?*nents f§Od grains from the current khiirif should be made for providing rftli^ crop (marketing season November to these areas from flooding. Accord­ and October) h«ve since come in the ingly, it has been decided to construct market. 157 Written Answers ‘ SHAilAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 58:

Central girant to Kerala Agro-Indiis- tries Corporation

1000. SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: Wij] the Minister of AGRICULTURE AXD irrigation be pleased to state;

th? reaGons for tho Kerala Agro- In i.istnes Corporation not getting its share of the Centres financial contri- ^ ^ 3^ ^ b;ition in time; and a't («sr> r«Vr5l< tot) ; (^) ifV, ^ I

(b) the remedial action taken or (^) ?fh: (^t) : ^ ^ ^ p: u josc'd to be taken? ^«TT T?: ^JTT^’ft I ( ^ ) Snfg^r?TJ[ ^ 5F^ 1T?TT THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) A request for Central equity was re­ ITWI sri^ iT^TVTFfN ir’ffTf v t ^ t^ «tt ww ceived from the Corporation in May 1978. Its release is held up because 1002. vfi pjiT ^ wnswm : w i the Corpo 'ation has yet to (i) finalize th(‘ accounts for 1977-78 which is a HITTIT w in ii tttx pre-condition for release of Central irf^ff % W W R # ^ ^ 3 "1 978 ^ equity in terms of the assurance given ^WT 5 3 0 5 ^ ^ t' ^ fTT *rTTr ; by the Ministry to the “Committee on Papers laid on the Table” and (ii) (fr) wm ^ 1975 ^ jtt#, 1978 intimate the projects for which equity ^ ^ is required, expenditure likely to be FTfT^ ^ ttj-t^tt^ tk ^ ^ sRTtftr incurred on them during the current % ^ 5? r^PTTqTT t ; ycnr and other relev*ant details sought by the Ministry. ^tH tt ^?t V n (b) The Corporation has been ^ ; advised to finalize the accounts and furnish the required information (n) ?RT ^ I Pf speedily. ?r?TTTftr ^ ^TFT^ *T TftrtTcf «ftT W T^ ^ f^nn ^ «TT ^«TT HT^nX rT®T ^ ’Tm FTTTfhr ^ iio tHo qo ^ ^ *|TTT^ f ^ 5TT^ ^ ^ 31T ;

1001 ( ^ ) '^M<£*rd VT^ ( ^ ) ^ htvth ^ ^ ^ ^ y r: ^3thr ^ f^RT^ taNr ?rm ir# ^ «Tm’ ^ ?

^ ^ Hprfr ffTTT ^ ^ ^ 'TcTT ITT iVorftot^o ^ Rnftr, MHru wrFWr !TRT wwt ( 1^0 ^tPT 7,000 7^ ^ smw wr : M 3 W 5ft t iITS^, 1 978 ?ifo 5305 ^ P r f ^ FtTTVt * ifT^ ^ ftrVPT^ I I ^ ^ 1977 (^) I 975^76 1976 - * ^ f i n ^ ^ % iSf fwpm m NOVEMBER 27, 1978 59 Written Answers Written Answers 6 o

( it) ^ ftrihr w f w to 71.03 lakh bales in 1977-78, further inn ^ ^ vmw fit^l qrr expectation of a good crop in 1970-79, inHTfccT t I inr fHRt increased consumption of man-made Km t. ^ *TTVR ^ ^ ^ fibres by mills and comfortable .^to(k ^ I position of the commodity.

(^) SHR ^ ^ I Working; Group for Flood Control Project Price of Cotton 1004. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: 1003. SHRI AHMAD M. PATEL: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH MALIK: AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: SHRI CHITTA BASU: ta) the quantum of cotton produc. SHRI A. C. GEORGE: tion in the country quality-wise, upto Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ the 31st May, 1978 during the current TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased year; to state: (b) whether the price of cotton has come down gradually; and (a) whether Government have iden­ tified the causes of the disastrous floods (c) if so, the reasons therefor? which recently struck several parts of the country and in particular the THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ States of , Bihar and West Bengal; TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) The (b) whether Government have ap­ total production of cotton in the pointed a Working Group to prepare country during 1977-78 is estimated at a Flood Control Project together with 71.03 lakh bales. Quality-wise a plan of action; E n d (viarietywise) information generally becomes available from different (c) if so, details thereof? States with a time-lag. Complete variety-wise break-up is available for THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ 1975-76 and is given in the enclosed TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI statement. [Placed in Library. See SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) No. LT-2868/78]. The recent floods in the country, in­ cluding those in Ganga Basin, were (b) Yes, Sir. As compared to the caused primarily by heavy and persis­ high prices of cotton in 1976-77, there tent precipitation, concentrated in has been a gradual decline in its pri­ limited time and spread over exten­ c e s during 1977-78. The annual sive «reas, and also due to drainage average wholesale price index whicli congestion. stood at 207.7 in 1976-77 d e c lin e d to 178.1 in 1977-78 cotton year (Septem­ (b) and (c). The Government have ber to August). Recently the whole­ appointed a Working Group of Ex­ sale price index has increased mar­ perts in various disciplines to prepare ginally from 167.8 in September to an outline of an integrated project 168.9 in the first week of November, and a plan of action comprising en­ 1978. gineering works, soil conservation and afforestation, which can be imple­ (c) The gradual decline in the mented in a course of 5 to 7 years for price of cotton starting from July/ controlling and mitigating the damage August 1977 may be attributed to in­ due to floods in the Indo-Gangetic crease in the domestic production of basin. The report of the Working cotton from 58.39 lakh bales in 1976-7? Group is expected shortly. Written Answers AGHAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 62 Increase of Floor Space Index in THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Bombay HOUSING a n d SUPPLY AND REHA­ BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR 1005. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCIN- BAKHT): (a) and (b). The condition DIA: Wm the Minister of WORKS of road from Prem Bari Pul to Pitam- AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND pura Residential Scheme is not bad. REHABILITATION be pleased to re­ Some portion of it needed patch work, fer to the reply given to USQ No. 1099 which has been completed. dated the 24th July, 1978 regarding proposal to increase floor space index ^c) Does not arise. in Bombay City and state:

(a) whether information has since been collected from State Govern­ ment concerned; and 1007. ^ frfc wVt Rrwrf ^ ftr : (b) if so, details thereof? (^) wm

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND ^ f?TTT rr^ ^ f5jrTCRT ^ ^ P. ] HOUSING a n d s u p p l y AND RE­ (^) m t; HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. (»t) ^ ^ ’iRT ^ (b) The Government of Maha­ rashtra have intimated that there U ^fPTrT ^ ^ ^ t ? no proposal to increase floor space index in the city of Bombay. As such frfc wh ftnn# qomro ^ TT^ •Wt («ft it will not have any effect on the WR iiniH J (^) («r). future development and already over ?WT 5f)T ^ burdened civic amenities in the city of fkETRFT ^ Bombay. w fgrvmff ^ ^ Bad condition of Road to Pitampura, Delhi ^^rpr tk ^trt

1006. SHRI KACHARULAL HEM- f^Tir ^ ^ pTrft^T RAJ JAIN: Will the Minister of ^ «ft I qfofhm ^ WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUP­ PLY AND REHABILITATION be plea­ sed to state: (^) TT^ ^ (a) whether he is aware of the very ^ ^ l%tT m r i 1 1 bad condition of the road going to ^ |tr 5T^ ^ Pitampura Residential Scheme Delhi f^TTT ^TTt^TT I from the Prem Bari Pul on the Ring Hoad; Sea Wall Scheme in Orissa Coast

(b) if so, the steps taken or being 1008. SHRI SARAT KAR: Will the ^aken to get it repaired; and Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IR­ RIGATION be pleased to state: . (c) if answer to part (a) above be the negative, whether it is proposed (a) whether it is a fact that Orissa’s ^0 see the condition of the road by ambitious anti-cyclone sea-wall sche­ ^®Puting some responsible officer so me to protect the long coastline of ^^at necessary repairs could be done? about 550 Km. economically weak and 63 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 64 vulnerable coastal districts from the in Gangam, Puri, Cuttack and Balasore Onslaughts 61 i^peated cyclones seems districts at an estimated costs of to be stuck on the rocks of intra-de- Rs. 773.45 lakhs spread over a period of partmental squabbles and zealous five years commencing from 1978-79, defence of departmental jurisdictions; which would be f u lly financed by the Central Government. An amount of (b ) whether it is a fact that imme­ Rs. 78 lakhs has been allocted for diately after the 1971 cyclone the State taking up plantation for a length of Government set up a technical com- 35 km. during the curitpnt financial mitte to examine various measures to year 1978-79, The State Government reduce the effects of cyclones and tidaJ have intimated that plantation work bores and recommended a coaGtal em­ is in progress. The State Government bankment, with certain suggestions all have also informed that the recom­ along to shore line to a depth of one mendation for providing a protective kilometre so as to break the speed oi coasal embankment will be investigat­ the wind; and ed and will be included in future pro­ (c) if so, the assistance provided b> grammes depending on the success of the Central Government and the pro­ shelter belt. gress thereon?

River Erosion of Kaim Bhasani in THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Gopalpura District SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) 1009. SHRI AHMED HUSSAIN: WiU No, Sir. It is not a fact that anti­ the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND cyclone see wall scheme has been IRRIGATION be pleased to state: affected due to inter departmental dif­ ferences. (a) whether the Government of India or any of its Flood Control (b ) and (c). In November, 1971 the Boards have formulated any scheme/or State Government of Orissa had ap­ propose to do so to protect river ero­ pointed a Technical Expert Committee sion of Kaim Bhasani in Dhubri, Ha- under the Chairmanship of Dr. A. N. midabad and Mahisal in the Gopalpura Khosla, then Governor of the State, District of Assam; to study flood and cyclone problems in the coastal belt and to recommend (b) whether the State Government measures that could be adopted eco­ emphasised the need to provide pro­ nomically to protect coastal belt area tection; and from future cyclones and tidal waves. The Committee inter-alia gave a gene­ (c) if 90, the details and the steps ral recommendation for the construc­ taken to protect river erosion and tion of a protective coastal embank­ giving assistance to victims of river ment with plantation on the land side erosion? and afforestation on sea side in a width of one kilometre. In pursuance THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ of the reconunendations of the Ex­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI pert Committee, steps are being taken SURjIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) by the State Government of Orissa to to (c). The Brahmputra Flood Con­ provide coastal plantation for having trol Commission (BFCC) of the Gov­ ■a shelter beit. ernment of A ss^ Jtyui prepared a scheme for provicfing anti-erosion The Central Government have ap­ measures on the right bank of Brahm­ proved a scheme for raising a continu­ putra river near Kaim ^asani in ous one kilometre wide shelter belt l!>hubri district of Assam. The fc to n e of mixed plan^tions covering was cpn^ered by the Bo^rd of Tech­ a length of 2080 km. of coast nical Consultants of the BFCC in their 65 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6: 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 66

1 meeting held in October, 1978. The THE MINISTER OF AGRICULr I scheme was not recommended by the TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Board of Consultants as it was found SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) that the area proposed to be protect­ to (c). The Hon’ble Member may ed was within the flood plain of the ri­ please indicate specifically t^ie name ver and liable to inundation, and of the concerned big business house. that the proposals in the scheme were The Government of India have not not adequate. It was also found that circumvented the provisions of the the cost of providing dependable anti- Monopoly Restrictive Trade Practices erosion works may be as high as Act before giving permission for Rs. 400 lakhs to Rg. 500 lakhs which undertaking s^afishinjg and import of would not be economically justifiable trawlers to any big business house for the protection of 1060 ha. of agri­ registered under the MRTP Act. cultural land and buildings and houses costing Rs. 10.5 lakhs. The proposals Licences to Multinationals Like in the case of Mahisa are under pre­ Wimco and Union Carbide etc. for paration as per views expressed by the Fishing in Bay of Bengal Board of Consultants in their meeting of December, 1977. Regarding protec­ 1011. SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN: tion to Hamidabad the State Govern­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE ment has reported that the situation AND IRRIGATION be pleased to is under observation. state:

The question of providing protection (a) whether multinationals like against erosion has to be viewed in Wimco, Union Carbide etc. have the context of the benefits that would been given licences for fishing in result from the outlay required to Bay of Bengal; achieve them. Each case would have (b) if so^ the precise principles on to be evaluated accordingly. v/hich such licences are granted and whether such principles form part of Licence to Big Biuiness House for an overall strategy; and Sea Fishing and Trawlers (c) the concrete benefits envisaged as a result of such a policy? 1010, SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI (a) whether a leading big business SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) house with diversified interests has whether a company is a multinational recently been given a licence for or not, fishing, as such, is not a ii» Q: undertaking sea-fishing and import ceable industry. However, perij^^^n of trawlers; for fishing through chartered is given depending on the merits (b) whether the application for the licence submitted by this big busi­ ness firm was not referred to Mono­ (b) Deep sea fishing is a capital in­ poly Restrictive Trade Practices tensive activity and in view of paucity Commission as is the usual practice of information on the deep sea fishery in the case of applications for new resources and lack of expertise for deep licences by Industrial houses which sea fishing operations, permission is give for chartering foreign vessels l^re covered by Monopoly Restrictive for a limited period, to enable the Trade Practices Act; and entrepreneurs take investment deci­ sions. (c) if so, the reasons for circum­ venting the provisions of th« law in (c) Acquisition of knowledge on their case? fishery resources of the regions beyond 3131 LS—8 67 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 68 the conventional fishing areas transfer Reduction in Price of Ferttlisers amd of technology through training of Pesticides man-power in deep sea fishing opera­ tions and foreign exchange earnings. 1013. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU:

Ifm rtfT ftsHPff fft OTTV VTPfT SHRi BIRENDRA PRASAD: 1012.^ fftr iftr Rnnf Will the M inist^ of AGRICULTURE •nft ^ f»rr AND IRRIGATION be pleased to (v) fJiT ^ 'HTT I ftr irsJT state: V ^ ^ ^ ^TT¥l (a) whether there is any repre­ sentation from the people to reduce the price of Fertilizers and Pestici­ (v) ^rrar h xmnrf^ des; and fvgftcT ?T ^ f^rr ^ (b) if so, the decision, taken by (^) ^ H <«i>l < Government? fTTT ^3Tt( TTtr f ?

THE MINISTER OF AGRICUI^ T ftwjf («ft gnftw TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI H H M l) : { ^ ) 1978-79 ^ fknn SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) »Tw TTsiT T a4<+li ^ tm vrrm and (b). There are occasional re­ VI anir^ armr tttji ferences to the prices of inputs and the need to reduce them. It is the •ft Ir f?nT >rin «rr i ttsit txr policy of the Government to keep wmf »if >nr«+ *rTOTT, »nR^- prices of fertilisers as low as possible. WP5TT, 1978 ^ i !f>'R It was in this context, prices of ferti­ lisers were reduced Six temes during ^ t(i4«44>di ?r ^rc^rrt n{ the period 18-7-1975 to 12-11-1977. In ^ I iT^tr V ^ ^5- addition, the following steps were also wn»ff,

(^) JT^ ^ •rff I (e) Retention Price Scheme for in­ digenous manufacturer s of Nitroge­ (»r) r^VTT TT^ § WqJT nous fertilisers was also introduced. f^TWr Tj^ ^ \ TR3T if vnvYPTTTf ^ As regards Pesticide, it has been de­ 31-10-/978 ^ m m 47,000 clared as E^ssential Commodity so in I that its price can also be rejgulaied. 69 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6 1900 (SAKA) WriUen Answers 70

Pollution THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA­ 1014. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER SHRI MADHAVRAO SCIN- BAKHT): (a) and (b). With a view DIA: to take an overall view in the Union Territory of Delhi to coordinate in­ SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL dustrial, agricultural and civic activi­ PAJDU: ties to prevent pollution of water, air soil and other problems of environ­ Will the Minister of WORKS AND mental degradation, a high level En­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND vironmental Committee was constitu­ REHABILITATION be pleased to ted by the Delhi Administration in state: December, 1977. The composition of (a) whether a high-level Com­ this Committee is given at Statement-I, mittee has been constituted by the This Committee has recently appoint­ Delhi Administration to look into ed a sub-committee to suggest mea­ the problem of atmospheric pollution sures for detection, control and pre­ in the Capital; and vention of air pollution in Delhi. The composition of this Sub-Committee (b) if so, the details regarding its is at Statement-II. The Sub-Commi­ composition and functions an^ when ttee is expected to meet shortly end its report is likely to be submitted? give their suggestions. Statement-I

CoTipaiition of Eaviornm^ntal Commitlct* for thr Union Territory of Dcllii.

I. Caief Executive Councillor C!i)airman

а. Mayor of Delhi . . . , . . Member

Dr. Ainar Naih Kumar, Member Metropolitan Council Member 4. Chief Secretary, Delhi Administration, Dellii Mrmhn

5. Chairman, Delhi Transport Corporation . Member

б. Vice -Chairman , Delhi Development Authority . Member

7. Commissioner, Mimicipal Corporation of Delhi Member

8. Development Commissioner, Delhi Administration. . Member

9. Deputy Commissioner, D e l h i ...... Member 10. Director of Industries-cum-Secretary (Electricity), Delhi AdnunisiiM’f n, 1 >lhi . Member

11. President/Sccrctary, New Delhi Municipal Ciommitfee . Member

I a. Director of Transport, Delhi Administration, Delhi . Member

13. Chief Engineer (Floods) , Delhi Administration, Delhi Member

14. General Manager, Delhi Electric Supply Undertaking . Member

15. Dr. Nilay Chaudhuri, Chairman, Central Board for the Prevention and Control of Water Pollution ...... Member

16. Sbri S.S. Shafi, Additional Chief Planner, Town & Country Planning Organisa­ tion ...... Member 17. Shri Bharat K. Bansal, Senior Specialist, Department of Science and Technology Member *8- Secretary, (Local Self Government Department) Delhi Administration Member

Depjty Secretary, Lc>cal, Self Government will be Sccretarv to the Committee. 71 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers

Composition of Environmental Sub-Committee.

1. Chief Secretary Delhi Administration Delhi . . Chairman

2. Dr. Amar Nath Kumar, Member, Metropolitan Council Member 3. Dr. Nilay Chaudhuri, Chairman, Central Board of the Prevention and Control of Water P o l l u t i o n ...... Member Df. R.P. Singh, Head of the Department of Chemistry Delhi University Member 5. Dr. N.L. Ramanarhan, Director (PEG) Department of Science and Technology. Member

6. Shri P.K. Dass, Director General Meteorological Department. Lodhi Road, New D e l h i ...... Member 7. Adviser, (PHEE\ Ministry of Works and Housing. .... Member 8. Dr. J.M. Dave, School of Environmental Sciences, Jawaharlal Nehru Uhiver- sitv. New D e l h i ...... Member

9. Dr. S.P. Chopra. Vallabhbhai Patel Chest institute, Delhi Member

10. Police Commissioner, Delhi Member

11. Commission er M.C.D., D e lh i ...... Member

12. President, New Delhi Municipal Committee, New Delhi. . Member

13. Secretary (LSG) Member-Secretary

14. Deputy Commissioner, Delhi Member

15. Labour Conmiissioner, Delhi Member 16. Dr. O.P. Sharma, Deirector, Health Services Member

Shortage of Drinking: Water (d) if so, the details thereof and the reaction of Central Government 1015. SHRI S. S. SOMANI: Will thereon? the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND TATION be pleased to state; HOUSING a n d s u p p l y AND REHA­ BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER (a) whether it is a fact that out of BAKHT): (a) to (d). Out of the pro­ 33,305 villages in Rajasthan State blem villages reported in 1971-72, no fewer than 24031 suffer from the 3122 problem villages remained un­ shortage of drinking water; provided as on 1st April, 1978. Pro­ vision of safe drinking water to these (b) whether it is also a fact that villages is being arranged under the in most of the villages where water Minimum Needs Programme. To acce­ is available it is quit^ unfit Tor lerate the pace, additional funds are human consumption; being provided to the State under the Centrally Sponsored Accelerated (c) if so, whether Government of Rural Water Supply Programme. Rajasthan has sought the financial assistance from the Central Govern­ As per the State Government’s sub­ ment and has submitted plan for the sequent survey, the number of pro­ approval of the Union Government; blem villages remaining uncovered in and August 1, 1978 is reported to be 14660. 73 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answ^s 74

The eligibility of the additional vill­ (m) anfimt wh: ages now reported by the State ^[N?r ar!ratfira1t t w ^ Government will be considered only i wwT I: after the number of villages which had already been reported by the (n) TOT ^ arrfinrf State are fully covered under the *ftr v-i^hd ^ »4^ir<.<<1i ^ ^Wl programme. *JTrra % I; «ik JTijir ?ft iTTi4 ^ UTOTTO irrfwirt ^rrfirft «rVr ^ innrr pFW^ff STfcTfTddl | ? 1016 Tnuft WH f^wri >r5ft <15 ^ sqr : ftf» ^ftr Runf ifwTOT if trii («ft tRHsnrnrftnf) : (^) #v(hr v (^) JTrf5t v^'tsr, ^ ^ ^nhrrfoff (fsR# vrrf^ ■srfjr^ f ) ^ 199 t i"*

Srfd^ddl 5ftP ^nnrrf^Tift v^nhrfCTff

7 — ^ 8 — ^ 79 4 5 % 5FJT

105 13 12. 0 4 % 1 0 . 95 %

(>r) 3ft, ?t 1 area and which are the areas which can be identified and whose land (ir) 3;'iT (w) w snfTiT »m | i use can be changed?

THE m in is t e r o f WORKS AND Recreational Green Area in Trans- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA- BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER Jamuna Area, Delhi BAKHT): (a) 953.6 Hects. 1017. SHRI KISHORE LAL: Will (b) Survey is being conducted. the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ (c) While re-drafting the new ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ plan of the trans-Jamuna area, this TATION be pleased to state: aspect will be taken into account. (a) how much area was reserved for recreational Green in trans- Aid from F.A^O. for Rural Produc­ Jamuna area of Delhi in the Master tivity Plan; 1018. SiHRI KIRIT BIKRAM DEB BURMAN; Will the Minister of AGRI­ (b) how much area out of this CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be has been squatted upon; and pleased to state;

(c) how Government propose to (a) whether Government’s atten­ compensate the recreational green tion has been drawn to the state­ 75 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 76

ment of the Director General of Project fOr Oil Seed DeveiopmeMt Food and Agriculture Organisation, and Creation of an Oil Markeiinf reported from Jakarta on October Network 19, 1978. to the effect that over 532 million people in Asia had been 1019. SHRI S. G. MURUGAIYAN: classified as living in absolute Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE poverty, most of whom are packed AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: in India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Indonesia; if so, how many of the (a) whether the National Dairy people in India are classified as liv­ Development Board has submitted a ing in ‘‘absolute poverty”; and proposal to the Union Government to start a project for oilseed deve­ (b) the details of the aid offered, lopment and creation of an oil mar­ conmiitted or sought by Govern­ keting net work with the help of ment from the Food Agriculture cooperative League of U S.A.; and Organisation for increasing rural (b) if so, the details thereof and productivity in India, with a view Government’s reaction thereto? to extricating thig country from the aforesaid conditions? THE MINISTER OF AGRICULr rURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI THE MINISTER O r AGRICUL­ SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) TURE AND irrigation (SHRl and (b). A proposal has been formu­ SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) lated by the National Dairy Develop­ The Minister of Agriculture and ment Board (NDDB) to help the culti­ Irrigation has no information regard­ vators to adopt production techniques ing the reported statement of Direc­ which would decrease the vulnerabili­ tor General of Food and Agriculture ty of the groundnut crop to climatic Organisation on 19^h October, 1978 variations while also raising yields from Jakarta. and offering year to year price stabili­ ty thereby increasing grower’s income. (b) The major activity of FAO in For this purpose, production, process­ the field of food and agriculture is by ing and marketing of groundnut would virtue of its being executing agency be coordinated by organising a federa­ of United Nations Development Pro­ tion of oilseeds growers cooperatives. gramme for projects for assistance The main features of the scheme are: to Governments in its field of res­ ponsibility. The FAO also provides (i) Arrange production of seeds consultancy services of FAO Experts and supply the same to the growers as and when required by member cooperatives by establishing farms countries. In 1976, the FAO created a at suitable sites. The farms may also Technical Cooperation Programme serve the purpose of adaptive re­ search. Fund of $ 18.5 million out of the regu­ lar budget for 1976-77 with the aim of (ii) Procurement of the produce enabling the developing countries to at a coordinated price and arrange have aid from FAO from its regular for processing. funds for filling up significant gaps in agrictiltural development by pro­ (iii) Marketing of vegetable oils viding experts or equipment. So far through consumers* cooperatives. FAO has offered/committed an aid of ^8,95,000 to India under its Technical The Government of India has since Cooperation Programme. India has conveyed its approval to the National sought Technical Cooperation Pro­ Dairy Development Board to the draft gramme assistance of $ 11,75,000 app­ agreement proposed to be entered in­ roximately for a number of other pro­ to between the Board h Jd <^e Coopera­ jects. tive League of U.S.A. for the purpose. 77 WHtten Answers AGFAHAYANA a. 1900 (SAKA) WHtten Answers 78

Memberdilp of Afrioaltuna Coopera­ of the remarks. Government instruc­ tive Oredlt Socletlef tions on the procedure to be adopted in the maintenance of annual confi­ 1020. SHRI DINEN BHATTA- dential records and the safeguards CHARYYA: Will the Minister of AG­ and remedies available against any RICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be unsustained assessment as applicable pleased to state the total number of to all Government employees will be Membership in the agricultural credit adopted on any aggrieved employee in­ cooperative societies which are claimed voking such provisions. to be the back bone of the cooperative Movement? Licence fee for fishing in Delhi

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1022. SHRI SHRIKRISHNA SINGH: THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRl BHANU AND IRRIGATION be pleased to PRATAP SINGH): As on 30th June, state: 1977, the total membership of primary agricultural credit societies in the (a) whether licence fee for fishing country was 448.31 lakhs. in Okhla, Delhi is only Rs. 1.25 per day; Nnmber of SCs & STs Etaiployees in the Ministry of Rehabilitation and (b) whether licence fee in fishing Supply spots, developed by Delhi Develop* ment Authority^ is Rs. 5.00 per day; 1021. SHRI B. C. KAMBLE: WiU the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ (c) the reasons for charging by ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ Delhi Development Authority four TATION be pleased to state: times of the licence fee charged at Okhla; and (a) the total number of Schoduled Casteg and Scheduled Tribes emplo- (d) whether Delhi Development yee3 in each class of service in the Authority propose to reduce the Mini 5itry of Supply and Rehabi­ licence fee t© promote fishing as a litation against whom there are sport in their spots and if need be, adverse remarks in their Confiential by limiting the quantum of catch, Records and the kinds of adverse say 5 kilos, per licence, per day? remarks and effect of them; and THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ (b) what steps Government propose TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI to do justice to the Scheduled Castes SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) and Scheduled Tribeg employees in The Okhla water area is divided into the matter of such indiscriminate two parts for the purpose of amateur remarks, marring their promotions? fishing. Daily licence for amateurs in­ cluding the reserved notch is Rs. 2.50 THE m in is t e r o f WORKS AND and for areas excluding the reserv­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA­ ed notch is Rs. 1.25. BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER BAKHT): (a) The information is be­ (b) Yes Sir. The Delhi Development ing collected and will be laid on the Authority charges Rs. 5.00 per day Table of the Sabha. for fishing at spots, developed by the Delhi Development Authority. (b) The question whether remarks made pn any such employee are indis- (c) Fishing spots developed by the crin^nate or not, will depend on the Delhi Development Authority are in merits of the case and the sustanability static water and ponds and not flow- 79 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 8o ii>g water. These spots recreational (b) if so, when it is likely that the and considerable amount is spent on Board will be declared And work their maintenance. The fees are com- started; and censurate with costs, (c) if not, what are the constraints (d) There is no proposal for reduc­ against the continuation of the Board tion of licence fee. and 3tepg taken to remove them?

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULr FHHSni HfVil Vt FWRilT IRWI TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) 102 3. ift T n r m fifwnft : iftr to (c). A draft bill for the constitution ^ f!'TT : of the Brahmaputra River Board un­ der the Central Government for the Ji? I ftnrt qufm # preparation of a Master Plan for the wwrniR ^ Frmr ^ control of floods, bank erosion and ^ tft; *rtr the improvement gf the drainage in the Brahmaputra valley, having re­ ^TTVT gard to the development and utilisa­ tion of the water resources of the basin for irrigation, hydro-power, na­ frfw

W l ^ ^ ^ ^ TT^ y fvarrrf 102 5. ^ HWH I TT ?r shtc ^t •ft iftHflfJIW WT>ft I ^ t| f, «nft w’hrr i «ft ifto ifto ^ I

WT ftwT, innw vrow rfJr ilr#Ri *WV Brahmaputra River Board to con­ m ^ fiTT ft» : trol Flood Water ( v ) fiTT w m x «ffT P nrR 10+ 2 + 3 fvRFTT ^ fT?[^ *FT i f l r 1024. SHRI PURNANARAYAN SINHA: {W) fm n * # 1iPlfN?RTT A fNfir ^ ^ VTVTT BTTT !T1» SHRI KIRIT BIKRAM DEB fiFt^ ITT# ^nc^Rmr I ? BURMAN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE firoiT, n^Tw vim'll ww? if(¥?o AND IRRIGATION be pleased to wfwwrwr): (v)iftT(¥) n i state: if 13— 1 5 ^ ^ , 1978 ^ ^ Tmff q# wur vnfm ^ V ftrwT irftnff ir»3r?R # ftFr- (a) whether steps have been taken PMxt firtir ( : — to constitute the Brahmaputra River ^ h r ^ «fhr- Board in order to control the flood •wrftv ftrwT ^ ft% *TT finrrr ^nrr 1 water of the Brahmaputra River in # iTf Jrm ^ ftr 20 TTwff Assam; win fWf ^ 10+ 2 + 3 8l Written AriBwers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 i^AKA) Written Answers 82

ftRfTT be returned to the USSR in repay­ VmV ftror VTT A t# fv filTOT ment of the balance quantity of wheat 1964— 66 «ftr T T ^ fWT loan received from that country in 1968 fai>rfivi I 1973-74, a quantity of about 8.73 lakh tonnes h«s already been shipped upto % 5lTtrf^ ftiwr Jffir TFSlff ^ 15th November, 1978 and shipment of VifiT?V TK ift fftr JT|[ the remaining quantity of 6.25 lakh *T^ ^ Pf Ifir ^ ^TRT ^rTT ^ ftrWT Vt JTJTFft ^ JPFTT TTR tonnes is to be completed by end of June, 1979. jftfir ^ j r f ^ ^ 1 ^ ^ fv ftrWT (c) and (d). The only other coun­ ^ sn»nFft 12 ^ ^ gprfM», try which has provided foodgrains to ^Tiarfw irtr msqfiry ftrwr India on the basis of loans is the USA. ^ ^Tf^ 1 By an agreement signed on 15th June, 1951, the USA provided a loan of US <. fVTOTT WT %rT^-f*TFTV ^ $189.56 million, Intended to finance ^ %iqft4 ^ ^ I cT^nftr, jrfe t t ^ the purchase of 2 million tonnes of WTVR ^ rft m TO?TT^T wheat. The loan is repayable in dol­ ftrtr ^ ^ iftr RR# qT3q^l>H fFTtr lars and the amount of this loan out­ ?fV^T ^ ^ I 1” standing as on 1st April, 1978 is US $138,691 million. Apart from this, Return of Soviet and other Wheat since 1967 the USA has supplied a Loans portion of food and other agricultural commodities against convertible cur­ 1026. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN­ rency credit loans under P.L. 480, DIT: Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ which are repayable in dollars. TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: Relief to Agricultunl Refugeeg in M. P. (a) the quantity of wheat borrow­ ed from Russia and other Countries 1027. SHRI SIVAJI PATNAIK: which India has to return to fulfil Will the Minister of WORKS AND the agreement; HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: (b) how much wheat has been re­ turned to Russia up till now and how (a) whether the Minister is aware much quantity remained to be ful- that the agricultural refugeeg of filled by the Food Corporation of Usrar, Satna District, M.P. have India; suffered heavy loss due to excessive rain; (c) whether any wheat loan from any country is still to be repaid in (b) if so, whether the Government kind or money by the Central is considering grant of relief to Government; and them; and

(d) if so, details thereof? (c) if not, the reasons thereof?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU HABILITATION (SHRl SIKANDAR PRATAP SINGH): (a) and (b). BAKHT): (a) The Government of Excepting from the U S ^ , India has have reported that, not imported foodgrains from any on account of continuous rains and other country in the form of loan re­ flood, Khariff crops in the Rehabilita­ turnable in kind. As against e quan­ tion Project at Usrar in Satna District tity of 14.98 lakh tonnes of wheat to have been damaged. 83 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 84

(b) and (c). The Government of [Placed in Library. See No. LT-2869/ Madhya Pradesh have been informed 78]. These do not include Press to afford appropriate relief as in case Correspondents. of the other flood affected populatir)n in th« State. (b) Two suites in Vithalbhai Patel House have been allotted to the Janata Party and one type IV house to an Allotm ent of AccommodatloTi .0 Re- individual. e#ffBiaed PoliUcal Parties and Social (c) Some representations have been and Cultural Organisations received from time to time and were exanxined. No separate statistical 1028. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR N. compilation of the representations PATIL: Will the Minister of WORKS received is kept. AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITATION be pleased to (e) Efforts are made to effect re- state: :"overy of arrears of licence fee as expeditiously as possible and where (a) details regarding Party-wise necessary, action under the Public break-up of number of houses/ Premises (Eviction of Unauthorised Bungalows/suites with built area Occupant;') Act, 1971 is also taken. allotted to various recognised Poli­ tical parties and Social and Cultural Organisations, their Office bearers Temporary Teachers of Affiliated and other individuals as on 30th Colleges Of Delhi University Sept., 78 at concesnonal rates; 1029. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER GUPTA: (b) the names of organisations and individuals under various categories SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: who have been allotted Government Will the Minister of EDUCATION, houses, Bungalows at concessional SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE rates during the past sixteen months; be pleased to state*

(c) whether Government have re­ (a) whether the University of Delhi ceived representations regarding the has decided that all temporary discrimination in such allotment and teachers emplo'/efl in private affiliated revision in policy of alloting the colleges will be given extension in Government Bungalow to various service even though there may not be aocial and cultural organisations and any teaching work for them; individuals and details thereof; (b) whether the U.G.C. has waived (d) what is the total amount of its rule of teacher/pupil ratio in the above mentioned cases; and House rent arrears to be recovered upto 30th September, 78 from such (c) whether it is the policy of the organisations and individuals; and University that a teacher once employ­ ed against a purely temporary vacancy (e) if so, measures Government in the University or an affiliated col­ I^ropose to take in this direction? lege will stay on to be permanently absorbed?

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- BAKHT): (a) and (d). T hree state­ DER): fa) to (c). Information is ments showing th e information are being coliected and will be laid on the laid on the Table of the House. Table of the Sabha in due course. 85 Written Answers AORAHAYANA «, i m (SAKA) Written Answers 86

Plan for Control of Floods final report has recommended expen- ditious completion of on-going sche­ 1030. PROF. SAMAR GUHA: Will mes^ and the commencement of work the Minister of AGRICULTITRE AND On new schemes required immediate­ IRRIGATION be pleased to state: ly, and lays stress on the need for adequate maintenance, speedy finalisa- (a) whether Government have tion of long range plans and flood drawn up any plan for control of plain regulation. In the light of the floods all over the country; extensive flood damage this year, a higher outlay has been recommended. (b) if so, facts thereabout; Another Working Group has also (c) whether any agreement has been been constituted to prepare a multi­ reached with Nepal for implementa­ disciplinary action plan for flood con­ tion of such a plan; trol for implementation in a period of 5 to 7 years. The report of this Work­ (d) if so, facts about such an agree­ ing Group is expected shortly. ment; (c) and (d). A flood control plan (e) whether enquiries have been for the Ganga basin would also cover made regarding extraordinary passage creation of storage reservoirs on the of water from different dams and bar­ tributary rivers at suitable locations. rages in different parts of the country* Within India, especially in the nor­ particularly in West-Bengal accentuat­ thern India, good sites with accep­ ing the flood situation in the State; table geological and topographical and features are not available for con­ struction of dams to give reservoirs (f) if so, facts about the findings of with adequate storage characteristics. such enquiries and the measures pro­ However the northern tributaries of posed by the Government for dealing the Ganga which flow from Nepal to with such a situation in future? India, do present suitable sites for the creation of storage reservoirs which THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ could be used not only for flood con­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRl trol but also for irrigation and hydro SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) power benefits to both the countries. and (b). In order to evolve a coordi­ Agreement has been reached for nated, integrated and scientific ap­ jointly conducting the additional in­ proach for a long-term strategy on vestigations required for the prepara­ flood control, the Central Government tion of detailed project reports for the have set up the Rashtriya Barh Ayog Rapti (Balubhang) project in Nepal to study, in depth, the problem o' and Pancheshwar project on the Indo- flood control, taking into consideration Nepal border and for examining the the experience gained in the imple­ preliminary issues with regard to the mentation of flood control measures execution of Karnali project in Nepal. during the last two decades. The Ayog is expected to submit its report Ce) and (f). Storage reservoir pro­ the end of 197^. jects have been extremely beneficial in moderating floods to a considerable On the advice of the Planning Com­ extent. But for the intelligent opera­ mission, the Department of Irrigation tion of these reservoirs, t h e damages ^ad constituted a Working Group to due to floods in areas downstream of ^pcommend strategy, policies and pro- these storage reservoirs would have ^?rammes for flood control during the been very much greater. In the case ^ year period from 1978 to 1983. In of West Bengal, the D.V.C. reservoirs interim report, the Working Group in particular have been instrumental has recommended an outlay of Rs. 680 in substantially reducing the flood ^rores. The Working Group in its peak. A peak inflow of 24.300 cumecs 87 Written Answers NOVIMBKR 27, 1978 Written Answers 88 (8.51 lakh cusecs) into the terminal Central programmes for Agricultural reservoirs of the D.V.C. system was Refinance and Development Corpora­ moderated and a release with a peak tion (ARDC) or A .R .D .C . type of only 4,571 cumecs (1.6 lakh cusecs) schemes duly cleared by the State was affected. Ground Water Directorate. In view of the definite advantage bestowed by storage reservoirs, it is (b) Separate figures of financial assistance provided for community proposed to take up construction of another reservoir in the D.V.C. sys­ works including tubewells imdep these tem and also a dam on the Kangsabati special Central programmes are not in its upper reaches. Action has also available. The total project outlay for all the programmes of S.F .D .A . been initiated to acquire additional land upto the gate level in Panchet including minor irrigation in Orissa State is Rs. 850 lakhs. Besides, 65 and Maithon reservoirs which would provide additional storage capacity of blocks in S.F .D .A . areas of the Orissa about 50 per cent of the existing State have been selected for the new available storage. This would sub­ programme of intensive block develop­ stantially help in further moderating ment and a provision of Rs. 345 lakhs the flood flows. has been earmarked during 1978-79 under Integrated Rural Development Programme. Minor irrigation schemes CentnU Gnmts for Community Tube including community works are also W ells in OriaM included under this programme. Under D .P .A .P ., the districts of 1031. SHRI K. PRADHANI: WiU Kalahandi and Phulbani are covered the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND and minor irrigation is also included IRRIGATION be pleased to state: under this programme. Community (a) whether Central Government tubewells have not so far been Pro­ realise that the Orissa State is the posed by the State Government under most backward State in India and this programme. Under C .A.D . pro­ needs financial assistance from the gramme an amount of Rs. 14 lakhs Central Government for installing was incurred towards subsidy for Community Tubewells; and ground water schemes and on-far development during the years 1976-77 (b) if so, the financial grant provid­ and 1977-78. Under the I.T.D.P., an ed by the Central Government to that amount of Rs. 6 crores was approved State in this regard? for special Central assistance for all minor irrigation programmes during THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE 1976-77 to 1978-79. AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Some areas of Orissa State have been considered as Additiona! Irrigiitioii P^ntial backward. Central assistance for com­ 1032. DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI: munity works including tubewells is Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE being made available under special AND IRRIGATION be pleased to Central sector programmes like state; Small Farmers Development Agency (SFDA), Drought Prone Areas Pro- (a) the additional irrigation poten­ granmifi (DPAP), Integrated Tribal tial created in the country in the years Development Programme (ITDP) and 1976-77 and 1977-78; Command Area Development (CAD) (b) the break up State-wise in the in the form of subsidy to the extent medium irrigation; and of 50 per cent for the benefit of small and marginal farmers. This subsidy (c) the estimated irrigation poten­ is now extended to all the small and tial State-wise for the current year marginal farmers outside the special and the progress made therein? 89 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, I960 (SAKA) Written Answers 90

THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ (b) The information is given in TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Statement-I. SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Additional irrigation potential created (c) The estimated additional irriga­ in the country in the year 1976-77 and 1977-78 is as follows: — tion potential State-wise for the cur­ rent year is given in Statement-II. 1976-77 21.01,2000 ha; The progress made therein is not 1977-78 . 2,564,000 ha. available.

Statement— I

(‘goo * hectares)

SI.No. Name of State 1976-77 1977-78

1 Andhra Pradesh 17 19 2 Assam . 13 30 3 Bihar 3 16 4 Gujarat 7 16 5 7 6 Himachal Pradesh . 7 Jammu & Kashmir

B Karnataka

9 Kerala

10 Madhya Pradesh . 29 45 11 Maharashtra 37 20 12 Manipur

13

14 Nagaland

15 Orissa >3 16 Punjab

17 Rajasthan

18 Sikkim .

19 Tamil Nadu .

20 21 Uttar Pradesh 61 56 29 West Bengal 7 7 9 i Written Answers NOVEMBiai 27, 1978 Written Answers 92

S u u m o it—H 1978 regarding Eviction proceedings against Ex-M.Ps. and state: /ooo* ha.) (a) whether further progress has been made in the eviction proceedings Si. State/Union TerntonVs Tc vgt iri So, additiooal against Ex-M.Ps.; potential to br (b) if so, the details thereof together crratcd with the details of rent paid by each of them for their unauthorised ocai- pation; and 1 Andhra Prfcdc«h 214 (c) if not, the reasons therefor? 2 A ^ m 69

3 Bihar 434 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ 4 Gujarat . >25 HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER BAKHT): (a) Yes Sir. 5 H aryana 6 Himachc 1 Pradrsh 5 (b) and (c). Shri Shankar V. Giri Jammu & Kashmir . 21 has vacated house on 22nd November 7 1978, and Shri S. M. Banerjee on 8 K arnataka 23rd November 1978.

Tk ) 9 Kerala The circumstances under which 10 Madhya Pradrsh 2D5 Sh. Tul Mohan Ram Ex-M.P. is con- tinuouijly in possession of the pre­ 11 Maharashtra mises has been explained in the re­ marks column of the statement. A 12 M anipur 36 statement showing the rent paid and Mcghalava 5 balance still due is enclosed. *4 Nagaland 6 firr V itwrt irnn >5 Ori:»sa 180 Punjab 16 1034. wfhirmw mvv : vrr Rmr, >7 Rajasthan 79 fr : 18 Sikkim I («f) m ^ ^ irev Tamil Nadu *9 2 5 ^ TK ^ iTvrn' ^ 20 T ripura . 3 ^ Pnrfw Pnm ^ 1 4 ^TPBT ^ Tlftr VTTf 21 Uttar Pradesh lO oC

22 West B.*ngal ic,n (^) ^ ^iTT t inr ^ ETRVIT ITT# V *RT ^

Evtction Proccedin^g against Ex. M.P*. ftwn, fnfm •Wt (ito 1033. SHRI HARI VISHNU KA- m w ) : (v) ^ ^ I MATH: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND (IT) Vii ^ REHABILITATION be pleased to re­ ^ ^ iPTT I I ^ Pnrf«i fer to the reply given to Unstarred (ftf^?rsninr) coTTfirrtff ia - n - i9 7 8 ^ Question No. 4618 on 28th August, 93 WHtten Answers \GRAHAYANA 6, 1900 {SAKA) Written Answers 94

TT ITVTiT TT5R ^ snfhTT^iTV ^ factories the Government have already < T R tf^ «TT I «F W T taken a number of measures as indi­ cated in the statement attached. fttr ^ «TT

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE 1. Controls on prices, distribution, AND IRRIGATION be pleased to releases and movement of sugar state; have been removed with effect Irom 16th August, 1978. (a) whether it is a fact that Union 2 The Stock holding limits of Government are actively considering licensed sugar dealers have been the question of revised incentives for increased by 50 per cent over the newly established sugar factories and existing limits with effect from 9th expansion projects and ths problem ol October, 1978. The State Govern­ huge stockii of sujrar with Ihi; facto­ ments have also been advised to ries; liberalize the issue of fresh licences to other applicants. (b) if so, whether any final decision has been taken; 3. Export of 6.5 lakh tonnes of sugar (which is the quota in effect (c) the details of the incentives to for 1978 under International Sugar be given; and Agreement) will be permitted, (d) to what extent the sugar units 4. The question regarding further have been benefited? assistance on credit limit of the sugar factories, to cover the addi­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tional credit needs in view of larger MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND carryover stacks than last year, Is IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP under examination. SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. An inter- Ministerial Group consisting of re­ vhA ■vfrirtinn w ijfiT presentatives of the Ministry of Finance, Department of Food, Planning Commission, Bureau of Industrial 10 36. ftwiwsrifTf mfw : w t i#i Costs & Prices, Industrial Development Rnn# ^ ^ Bank of India and Industrial Finance TT^ ^ qfTTfhnTT It 5^ Corporation of India has been consti­ ^ ^ 1977 # tuted to review and revise the scheme grant of incentives to new sugar factories and expansion projects 1977 ^ frnrr f t ^ (established at high costs in the light of JTTO t’ ? changed conditions. r«pw# Wr In order to deal with the problem of huge s1)ock8 of sugar with the •* ^ t i>5 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Writttn Answers 96

i977 ^rqf^

5 ^ ^ ( ^ )

1977 1977 1978 »TT^, 1978 1 9 7 8 -7 9

f » r ^ WTcTT

1. 1. 11 . 27 6. 53 3. 607 6. 765 3 . 96 . 22

3. 05 1 . 30 0. 69 1. 555 0 . 60 . 10

3. 7. 76 Jnrf^ TT ^ 1

Natfonal Science Talent Search (f) the action taken to revive the Schoianhip Scheme scholarships to the NSTS scholars since 1975-76 to those who have joined en. 1037. SHRI SHANKERSINHJI gineering or medical courses? VAGHELA:

SHRI SHIV SAMPATI RAM THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, WiU the Minister of EDUCATION. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- be pleased to state; DER): (a) the number of scholarships awarded by the NCERT under the (a) the number of scholarships awa­ National Science Talent Search Scholar­ rded by the NCEIRT under the Nation­ ship Scheme, yearwise is as given al Science Talent Search Scholarship below:— Scheme during the academic years 1975-76, 1976-77 and 1977-78 each 1975—76 . 372 year; >976-77 • 353 (b) the number out of these NSTS Scholars who went abroad and their >977 * 7^ • 453 '^»3 undrr National Scicncc scholarship was stopped; ralcni Schcme and 350 U n d rr National Talent (c) the number out of these NSTS Search Schrmc). Scholars who joined medical or engi­ neering courses and their scholarships (b) Although the scholars of 1975- were stopped; 76 batch are eligible to go abroad for post-graduate studies, none has appli­ (d) whether Government consider ed for it so far and, therefore, the engineering and medical education as question of stopping the scholarship important ones; does not arise. As regard scholars of (e) in case Government considers 1976-77 and 1977-78 batches are con­ t h ^ important, reasons why scholar- cerned, they are not yet eligible to go ihips have been stopped; and abroad for higher studies. 97 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

Statement

Ind^x N'lmbers of Wholesale Prices of b’Hlding maUriah,

(JJasc 1970-71 = 100)

Index No. of Wholrsalc Pnccs Matffial •975-76 1976-77 1977-78

I. Bricks . 291.2 344*4 2996

3. Lime 143-* 141.2

3. Cement 170-5 173-6 176-8

4. Logs Sl Timber 164*5 155-3 220* 3

5 * Iron 5c Steel (Bars & RodjiJ 203-3 aoS-1 208-3

6. Painis & Vamishci .... 194-6 204-9 804*8

. 3131 L.S.—4 99 'Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 100

Stmtemenc - II

P(“rccntagc increase ^ or Decrease (—) in the Index ISumbcT ol'Wholesale Pritcs of buildin^ materials between October 197b and October, 1978.

Material Percentage increase( -j-) or decrease (— )

1. Bricks . . . (-)i4 .i а. liibe . (—)a.3 ^ O txxam i . . . . ( -t )9.9 4. Logs and Timber . C-r)86.B

5. Iron & Steel (Ban n d Rods) . б. Paints and Varnishes ( - ) o .8

Reiiortea purchase of Rotten Wheat by was purchased by the Food Corpora­ F.CJ., Bansralore tion of India from the Railways at Bangalore. However, about 1000 1039. SHRI D. N. TIWARY; Will the tonnes of wheat despatched from Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Tapa (Punjab) in the first fortnight IRRIGATION be pleased to state: of June, 1978 in Box type open wagons was affected by rains enroute. It wrongly reached Faizabad, and was (a) whether it is a fact that 1000 tonnes of rotten wheat was purchased redirected to the original destination by the Bangalore Branch of the Food viz. Bangalore. The affected stocks Corporation of India from the Rail­ were segregated and are awaiting dis­ posal after due categorisation as ways; cattle/poultry feed or for industrial/ manurial purposes as per procedure. (b) whether the same ntuff was re­ The assessment of loss by the carriers fused when offered to the consignee in (Railways) is still awaited. Faizabad and also by Avadi ( Tamil Nadu) Branch of F.C.I.; Start of Sugarcane crushing by Sugar Factories (c) whether this rotten wheat was purchased by the Regional Manager 1040. SHRI DHARMA VIR over-ruling the objections of the Dis­ VASISHT: trict Manager as well as the Deputy SHRI NAREiNDRA SINH. Manager; W ill the Minister of AGRICULTURE (d) the way in which this wheat was AND IRRIGATION be pleased to disposed of by the Bangalore Branch state: of the F.C.I.; and (a) whether crushing of sugarcane was started by all sugar Mills iron), 1st (e) the amount of loss, if any? November, 1978; and (b) if not, the names of defaulting THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mills together with steps taken by the MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Cabinet Panel to ensure both crushing IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP on schedule and protection of farmers' SINGH): (a) to (e). No rotten wheat interest? lo i Written Answers AGH/iHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 102

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The need for creating a dry rJINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND belt around Tamil Nadu was emphasis­ IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- ed in the meeting of the Southern TAP SINGH): (a) As per telegraphic Zonal Council held recently and the intimations received from the sugar member States were urged to consider factories, 45 factories have reported to the proposal for implementation. The have started crushing operations for responsibility for implementing the 1978-79 season upto 1st November as recommendation of the Council is ii^amst 32 factories on the same date vested in the State Governments. last year. 115 factories have reported to have started crushing operations Review Committee on Indian Council ior the current season as on 21st of Social Science Research November as against 102 factories on the same date last year. 1042. PROF. MLIP CHAKRA- VARTY: WiU the Minister of EDU- (b) The names of 178 factories CATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND -which have not reported to have start­ CULTURE be pleased to state: ed crushing operations for 1978-79 season upto 21-11-1978 are shown in (a) whether a review Committee of the enclosed list (List 1). [Placed in Indian Council of Social Science Library. See No. LT-2870/78]. Research was constituted to adjudge Government have promulgated the its activities during the oast few Sugar Undertakings (Taking Over of years; Management) Ordinance, 1978 which provides for, inter-alia, taking over of (b) if so, what were its recommen­ raanagement of sugar undertakings dations; and which have not started crushing by (c) whether those recommendations 15-11-1978 for the purposes of Ordi­ were acted upon and made public? nance. Notices under Section 3(1) of th e Ordinance are being issued THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION. wherever necessary. The list of the SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE remaining factories which had not (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- sta rte d on November 1 but started DER): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. Accord­ before November 21 is also given ing to the information furnished by separately in List-2. [Placed in Lib­ the Indian Council of Social Science ra ry . See No. LT-2870/78]. Research, the ICSSR itself set up in 1977 a Review Committee to evaluate TN. Government proposul for T>ry its activities during the last 9 years Belt and to make recommendations for its 1041. DR. MURLI MANOHAR future development. The report of JOSHI: Will the Minister of EDUCA­ the Review Committee is under con­ TION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUL­ sideration of the Council which has TURE be pleased to state: yet to make its decisions known to Government. The report of the (a) whether any proposal was made Review Committee has not b ^ n made by the Tamil Nadu Government in the ^uthern Z.onai Council for a dry belt public. 25 Kms. for effective implementa­ Living conditions in Burdwan tion of its prohibition programme; and Refugee Camps (b) if so, the steps taken by Gov­ 1043. SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: Will the ernment in this regard? Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING the MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA- ^ ’NISTRY o f EDUCATION, SOCIAL TION be pleased to state: We l fa r e a n d c u l t u r e (s h r i ^HANNA SINGH GULSHAN): (a) (a) whether it has come to the Sir. notice of Government that there are 103 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 WriUen Answers 104 inhuman living conditions in the average realisation. Hence a package Burdwan Refugee Camps; of measures including reintroduction of the monthly releases mechanism (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and has been suggested by them for adop­ (c) what measures Government tion by the Government. These propose to take to uplift the living suggestions have been examined in de­ condition in those camps? tail and ^be Government is of the view that since only three months have THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND passed since decontrol, it would be HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ premature to try to introduce modifica­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR tions. in the sugar policy. However^ PAKHT): (a) and (b). The Burdwan the situation is being watched and ap­ Transit Camps had been opened by propriate measures will be taken by lh3 Government of West Bengal to the Government if found necessary. provide temporary shelter to deserters from Dandakaranya and places out­ Agencies for Adult Education side it during April-May, 1978. They Programme have been closed down since August, 1978. 1045. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: (c) Does not arise. SHRI A. R. BADRI- NAR^VYAN: SHRI RAJ NARAIN; Crisis in Sugar Industry in U.F.

1044. SHRI CHITTA BASU: WiU the WiU the Minister of EDUCATION. Minister of AGRICULTURE AND SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE IRRIGATION be pleased to state: be pleased to state;

(a) whether it is a fact that sugar (a) whether Union Ministry has so industry in U.P. is passing through a far approved 150 agencies for granting crisis; financial assistance to implement tho National Adult Education programme; (b) if so, the nature of the crisis; and . (b) if so, how many agencies parti­ cipated in the National Campaign (c) steps taken to rid the industry which was launched on 2nd October, of the crisis? 1978; (c) what is the total cost worl.f^ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND out per learner; and IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- (d) in how many States and Union TAP SINGH): (a) to (c). Due to a re­ Territories the Adult EJducation Pro­ cord production of sugar of 65 lakh gramme has been started? tonnes and record off take of sugarcane by the industry of 68 million tonnes THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION. during the last season, there was a SOaAL WELFARE AND CULTURE surplus of sugar availal>le in the coun­ (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- try which led to Govemment’o deci­ DER)y* (a) and (b). 157 voluntary sion to decontrol sugar from 16th agencies were approved for financial August, 1978. Subsequently, Govern­ assistance by 2nd October, 1978. The ment has received representations number has since gone up to 177 as on from aU parts of sugar industry, in- 15-11-78. This number will further eluding from the State of U.P., that increase in future months. the decisicn of Government to lift all controls regarding prices and distri­ (c) The effective cost per learner bution of sugar has affected their works out to Rs. 80.00. 105 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers io 6

^d) According to information receiv­ (b) if so, the details regarding the ed, in all States and Union Territories policy o^ Gk)vemment? the Adult Education Progranxme has been started. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION. SOCIAL Prices of Gar WELFARE AND CULTURE (SHRI DHANNA SINGH GULSHAN): Ca) 1046. SHRI RAGHBIR SINGH and (b). The question of formulation VIRK: WiU the Minister of AGRICUL­ of National Sports Policy is under con­ TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased sideration of the Government in con­ to state: sultation with the All India Council of Sports. (a) whether the prices of Gur has gone down during the last one year; (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and (c) whether Government propose export Gur in view of the highest 10 48. production of Gur iii the coming seafioB VlilH ffWT fftr ywfH V cTPT and if not, the steps taken or proposed to be taken to keep the prices of gur to the level of 1975 and 1970? (fr) fiTT ^ *Rfaf>q THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- («r) ^ # TAP SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. The t WTT ^ # wholesale prices of gur have gene­ ^ ^ ^ ^ rally ruled lower during the last one year.

(b) The decline in gur prices is t ^ VRW t ? attributable mainly to easier avail­ ability of sugar and larger arrival of gur into the markets due to higher iftr WTWTH ^ production. («ft tot) : (v) H (n) . ^ ^ ^ ^nrr ^ m i (c) Even though there was originally a ban on the export of gur, this has revoked from the last season in Sites and Services Scheme in the fiow of the large availability of gur. States Hence there is no obstacle to the ex- ^‘crt of gur during the coming season 1049. SHRI RAGAVALU MOHAN- also. ARANGAM: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUP- National Sports Policy PLY a n d REHABILITATION be 1047. SHRI K. MALLANNA: WiU pleased to state: Minister of EDUCATION. SOCIAL (a) the extent of implementation of ^VELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas- the sites and services schemes in the to state: various States;

whether Government of India (b) the plans and programmes for formulated any national sP o rts the scheme and the investment envis­ Policy in view of the general utility of aged during' next five years; and sports in nation building and the performance of Indian sports- (c) the quantu^n of assistance offer­ in the international field; and ed by World Bank and the extent to 107 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers lOS

which such assistance has been utilised THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- 80 far? TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA) : (a) THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND The 75 per cent dependable annual HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- flow at Tajewala is estimated to be ' HABiLITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR 9164.76 million cubic metres and the BAKHT): (a) The Housing annual flow in the reach Tajewala and and Urban Development Corporation Okhla is about 4440 million cubic bas, upto 15th November, 1978, metres. So far, there has been no com­ sanctioned schemes of sites and prehensive agreement about the shar­ services in 18 towns of 6 States on a ing of Yamuna wuiers amongst the loan commitment of Rs. 5.37 crores. basin States namely Haryana, Uttar Under the Scheme of Integrated Urban Pradesh, Rajasthan, Himachal Pradesh Development, financial assistance by and Union Territory of Delhi. The the Central Government is admissible Yamuna waters upto Okhla at Delhi for schemes of land acquisition and are, however, at present being utilis­ development and sites and services as ed extensively in Haryana and Uttar part of integrated urban development Pradesh for irrigation and to a limited projects in selected cities of some of extent by the Union Territory of Delhi the States. and Rajasthan for irrigation and drinking water supply. Haryana and (b) In the draft Plan 197a— 83, the Uttar Pradesh are drawing their irri­ main emphasis on housing for the eco­ gation requirements at Tajewala in nomically weaker sections in urban accordance with an earlier agreement areas is through the strategy of ‘Sites of 1954 concluded between erstwhile and Services’. The Government has Punjab and Uttar Pradesh. decidedjhat funds from the Integrated Urban Development Scheme would be (b) With a view to evolving some available for financing components of comprehensive agreement, studies with sites and services also. regard to the availability and the ex­ (c) The World Bank has not offered isting and proposed uses by the various any assistance specifically for the im­ States in the Yamuna basin have been plementation of sites and services carried out by the Central Water schemes. The Madras and the Second Commission and the matter is under Calcutta Urban Development Projects, discussion with the States. No com­ which are partly financed by World prehensive agreement amongst the Bank assistance, contain components of basin States has so far been arrived sites and services also. at. The basis on which the agreement of 1964 between erstwhile Punjab and Share of Yamuna water between Uttar Pradesh was arrived at has not Haryana, Uttar Pradedi and Delhi been spelt out in that agreement. 1050. SHRI SHAMBHU NATH (c) The details about the length are CHATORVEDI: Will the Minister of as under : AGRICULTUIffi a n d IRRIGATION be pleased to dtate; Km. Common boundary Ix twcf ii Him­ (a) ^ a t is the total annual flow of achal Pradesh and Uttar water in the Yamuna and how is it Pradesh -I;;. . 30 shared between the States of Haryana, Common boundary b<*twrfn Har­ Uttar Pradesh and Delhi; yana and Uttar Pradc?h 328 (b) what is the rationale and basis Delhi 48 of this decision; and Uttar Pradcuh . 970 (c) what is length of the river that lies in each of these States and Union T otal 1376 Territor 3r? lOQ Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers n o

Music Teachcrs Grades in N.D.M.C. Unsold stock with National Book Trust

1051. SHRI ANANT DAVE : WiU m 2 . SHRI OM PRAKASH TYAGI: the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL Will the Minister of EDUCATICMi, WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas­ SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ed to state: be pleased to state:

Ca) whether the music teachers (a^ w ith e r >the National Book grade has b.^en diyi.4e<} into three Trusjt had so far published books of grades on tjxe recbtliinendation of the valine of Rs. 2 crores of which Third Pay Cotnmission and has been half had remained unsold; implemented by Delhi Administration; fb) whether regard had been kept Ob) if so, whether guch grades have for brining down the print order to not been implemented in the case of a realistic level after making a mar­ music teachers employed by Education ket survey; Department of N.D.M.C.; (cT what are the reasons for not (c) what action has b^en taken implementing the grades by N.D.M.C. against the officials responsible for the and number of music teachers so lapse of unsold stocks; and cifTocled; and (d) the steps which have been rH) what action has been taken by takf-n for avoiding f;uch like losses in NDMC authority in consultation with future? Delhi Administration on the represcn- tafion made by the affected teachers THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to mitigate their hardship? MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, SO­ CIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARA­ MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL RAT AKI) : (a) The trust has pub­ WELFARE AND CULTURE (SHRI- lished upto 31-3-1978 books of the MATI RENUKA DEVI BARAKA- value of about Rs. 2.28 crores. As on TAK): (a) and (b). According to the 31-3-1978 only books representing information, furnished by the Delhi 33.6 per cent of the total value of Administration and the New Delhi Mu­ books produced remain unsold. nicipal Committee, the three grades recommended by the Third Pay Com­ (b) No specific market studies have mission and approved by the Govern­ been undertaken so far. However, the ment of India in respeqt of Music Tea­ print run. is determined with due re­ chers have since been implemented in gard to the price and based on a broad the Directorate of Education, Delhi assessment of the likely response from and the New Delhi Municipal Com­ the reading public. mittee. (c) The unsold stock of the titles However, the pay scale of Music published by the Trust is not due to teachers (Grade IV) was under con­ any lapse on the part of any particu­ sideration of the Govemnnent and it lar officer. The Trust generally takes has now been decided to give them up books which serve a social purpose the pay scale of primary school although they are not always coHuner- teachers. cially attractive. The books are in­ tended to sum>lement the kno^ilad^ (c) Does nqt a r i^ ip view of (a) of readers \vho did not have the ad­ and (b) above. vantage of higher education. They thus have information and educational (d) No'Suoh reprwei^tation has been value but they are not normally as received by the New Delhi Municipal quick selling for example as novels or Committee so far. books on subjects of topical interests. I l l Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers ii2 Besides, titles in many series are most­ (d) the reasons for delay in award­ ly translations from one Indian langu­ ing the contract to the tiew contrac­ age to others. Such titles are slow tor and the action taken or proposed sellers particularly in view of the fact to be taken against the officers of that their authors are not very well DDA responsible for this delay? known outside theit own language areas. The current stock of about 38.6 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND per cent of the value of books, there- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- f6re, cannot be deemed as too imsatis- HABLITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR factory, especially as the general sales BAKHT) : (a) The contract was have begun to take an upward turn. awarded in two parts on 25th May, 1975 and 29th October, 1975 to M/s. Taking action against any official, A. S. Parmar and Co., and Shri D. K. therefore, does not arise. Jain respectively.

(d) *nie highest priority is being (b) The Contractors stopped the given to the problems of selling and work in May, 1977 and November, 1977 sales promotion. More recently the after completing 90 per cent and 50 Trust has taken a number of steps Hke per cent of the work, respectively. increasing distributors’ network, in­ tensifying publicity, increased partici­ (c) Fresh tenders were called and pation in book fairs and exhibitions have been receivd on 9th November, etc. to achieve greater sales. As a re­ 1978. sult of the various measures taken by the Trust, from time to time, the sales (d) The formalities of cancellation of the Trust’s publications have in­ of the tenders took some time. There­ creased gradually. The sales have after fresh tenders had to be called almost doubled during the last five thrice. Hence, there was no unreason­ years from Rs. 13.00 lakhs in 1978-74 to able delay in awarding work neces­ Rs. 25.61 lakhs in 1977-76. sitating action against the officers of D.D.A. Construction of Trunk Sewer in Pttampnra, Delhi Amonnt to Tamil Nada and GojanU for Prohibition 1053. SHRI DALPAT SINGH PA- 1054. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: RASTE : Will the Minister of WORKS Will the Minister of EDUCATION, AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE REHABILITATION be pleased to be pleased to state: state: (a) the total amount that has been (a) when the contract for construct­ given so far to Tamil Nadu and ing trunk sewer line in Pitampura Gujarat as assurance for full prohibi­ Residential Scheme of DDA was tion; and awarded and the name and other par­ ticulars of the contractor; (b) the gist of deliberations held in the recent meeting of the All-India Prohibition Council held in New (b) whether the Co^ntractor has Delhi? since stopped the work and if so, when he stopped the work and the percentage of work completed by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN him; THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (c) what steps have since been (SHRI DHANNA SINGH GUL- taken to award the w6rk to another SHAN): (a) In accordance with the contractor; and terms of the policy for payment of 113 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers n compensation these States are not eli- (d) The Committee recommends bigle for any compensation* Hence no that the State Governments evolve payment has been made to them. suitable legislative measures to ban advertisements regarding liquor and intoxicating drinks in any news­ (b) The recent meeting held was paper, book etc. or the display of that of the Central Prohibition Com­ mittee (27-9-1978). A statement indi­ any such advertisement in public places. The Board of Film Censors cating the decisions taken by it are should enforce more rigorously the annexed. rules against depiction of drinking scenes in feature films. Statement (e) The Committee recommends that all States and Union Territo­ The Central Prohibition Committee ries undertake a quick survey to as­ at its tenth meeting in New Delhi sess the extent of unemployment resolved that in pursuance of the con­ that would ensue in consequence of sensus reached at its 9th meeting and implementation of Prohibition. in consonance with Government of india*s guidelines, all States and Union (f) The Committee reconunends Territories reaffirm their determina­ that the State Governments may tion to bring about prohibition in four prepare reemployment plans, in col­ years ending March 31, 1982; laboration with the Khadi and Vil­ la g e Industies Commission, for ab­ sorbing toddy tappers, mahua pic­ It further resolved that speedy kers and others engaged directly or measures be taken to implement the indirectly in this sector in order to policy in a phased marmer in the light open up alternative avenues of em­ of the following agreed decisions: ployment for those rendered surplus as a result of prohibition. (a) The Committee recommends that they may take steps for discon­ (g) The Committee recommends tinuance of vending of counti*y that the State and Central Govern­ liquor in the tribal areas wherever ments may : this still exists, with effect from 1-4-1979 or as early as possible and (i) Launch a massive publicity also implement other progranmies programme through all the mass outlined in the Department letter media of communication to publi­ No. P. 11Q12/18/78-PR Vol. II dated cise the evil effects of consuming 27-7-1978; alcohol; (ii) take suitable measures for (b) that the neighbouring States discouraging the youth especially may, as far as possible maintain: in the universities from taking to (i) Uniformity in observing alcohol and drugs; “dry’» days. (iii) involve non-official agen­ (ii) Uniformity in the incidence cies, especially womens* organisa­ Of excise duty on liquor to dis­ tions, Sji the implementation of courage and prevent smuggling. prohibition i>olicy and programmes and provide them financial assis­ tance for the purpose; (c) The Committee reiterates its earlier recommendation that all (iv) establish a special publicity States and Union Territories having cell in I&B Ministry for coordi­ common borders with ‘‘dry’* States nated and sustained publicity agree to maintain a dry belt of through audio visual and other •^5 kms. in the common border areas. media. 115 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27. 1978 Written Answers I i 6

arations con­ countries for flood relief during the taining alcohol; period August to October 1978 are Rs. 75,89,200.27 and from Indian citizens/ (vi) incorporate the educative Indian organisations abroad in foreign aspects of prohibition policy as exchange Rs. 46,82,589.20. This widl as evils of drinking into text amount excludes the donations receiv­ books and the campaign for adult ed from Indian Nationals abroad in education. Indian currency.

(b) Australia, Canada, Libya, Japan, Eorolpi Aid for Flood Belief Ms^ldives, Grenada, Hungary, New Zealand, Republic of Korea, Sri Lanka 1055. SHRI GANANATH PRA- and U.S.A. have provided assistance DHAN: Will the Minister of AGRI­ in cash while Philippines, Bangladesh, CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be Switzerland and U.S.S.R. have provid­ pleased to state^ ed assistance in kind. Federal Re­ public of Germany and U. K. have (a) the total amount of donations provided assistance both in cash and receive^ from various foreign coun­ kind Mauritius and Kuwait have tries and Indian citizens abroad promised assistance in cash while towards flood relief fund during the Libya has promised in kind. A state­ period August to October, 1978; and ment showing assistance/offers from foreign Governments/Organisations for (b) details therefor? flood relief is enclosed.

Statemont

Flood Relief Assistance^ offers from foreign Governments! Organisations

S. No. Name of country/ Oflfcr Rcmark«j Organisation

1 Australia . S i,oo,ooo

2 Baiigladesh . . 5 lakh dozes of anticholera vacc'ne.

3 B h u t« . ^ . Rs. 1,37,677 in()

4 •Canada . $ 1,40,000 For Red Cross R elief .Progranune.

E.E.C. . ig^o.opp European Units of Account for ^ood victims in Midnaporc and Howrah Districts.

Hirough Voluntary 6 F.R.G. Government DM 5,50,000 in cash. DM 5,00,000 in kind. Organisations.

Voluntary Agencies . 10 Powered inflatablermbber boats worth DM 1,00,000. Iiy V/ritten Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 iSAKA) Written Answers 118^

; No Name of coanir / O ffer Remarks Organisation

Chemical equipment for Water processing worth ; DM 67,000 DM 12,36,000

Private Donors DM 35,000

7 Hong Kong Help the Aged Orga­ 3,00,000 doses of cholera vaccine. nisation 2 large inflatable boats.

3 outboard engines of 35 HP

36 cases medicines. 8 Japan u s $ 5,30.9 s6-47

9 Kuwait R.S. 50,00,000* 00 10 Libya US $ 2,50,000 and 3 C-igo plane loads with tents, clothes and medical supplies.

11 Maldives Rs. 1,00,000*000

12 Mauritius Government £ 20,000*00 (proposed) Seva Shibir, 30 tonnes of clothes Maurittius

13 Netherlands Red Cross Df i • 2,50,000 Through Leauge of Red Cross Societies, Geneva. 7*112 kilo full cream milk value DM 1*30,365*40

14 New Zealand $ 30,000 As relief assistance.

15 Norway Red Cross N. Kr. 5,00,000*00 To Indian Red Cros: Society.

16 Pakistan Red Cresent 500 tents Do. 105 packages of medicines. 12,500 lbs. milk powder 11 packages and 6 crates of bedsheets.

17 Philippines 5 lakh doses of anti-cholera vaccine. Government 18 Singapore . Rs. 53»38o*78 Singapore R ^onal Centre of the World JFellowshtpi of Budhistn.

19 Republic of Korea . $ 15,000*00 20 Sri Lanka Sri Lanka Rs. 10,00^000

21 Switzftcland 3,30,000 cc «f Cholera vaccine. Government 10 tons baby food To Indian Red 5 million water purification tablets. Cro.ss

Red Cross Sw. Fr. 50,000*00 Do.

22 U . K. £ 2,50,000 100 motor boats Do. Il9 Written Answers NOVIMBER 27, 1978 Written Answer* iz h

S. No. Name of country Offer Remarks Organisation

23 U.S.A. $ 25,000 By US Ambassador to CARE Inctia for relief work.

Director Relief 13 carton? containing relief supplies. Foundation Santa Barbara, California.

C A ^E I million i b s . of Energy Food ration.

24 U.S.S.R. . 5 boats 5 million units of cholera vaccine.

100,000 units of Typhoid Vaccine.

2 tons of polyethyline pollide 50 tons of calcium hypocloride

20 tons of monochloromine

25 Yogoslavia Red Gross Two tons milk powder US $ 100,000 worth of relief supplies.

26 UNICEF I 100,000 18000 vials of anti'Cholera vaccinc.

5 Pedo-jet Machines.

27 World Food 2000 MT skimmed Milk Powder. Programme.

200 M T Edible Oil. 28 Grenada US $ 1,840*00

29 Hungary Government Forint 20,00,000 Copy of Embassy’s note is enclosed. Red Gorss Forint 5,00,000

News Item entitled "It is becoming a THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, Sick Verrtty” SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- 1056. SHRI RAJKESHAR SINGH: DER): (a) Yes, Sir. Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (b) The allegations made in the be pleased to state: News Item are being looked into.

(a) whether his attention has been Electrical Goods dumped at drawn towards news item entitled Exhibition Ground^ New Delhi “It’s becoming a sick Versity” appearing in National Herald dated 1057. SHRI MAHI LAL: Will the 24th October, 1978 regarding misman- Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING agement of affiliated colleges by the AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ Delhi University; and TION be pleased to state: (b) if so, reaction of Government (a) whether unserviceable electrical thereto? material/goods worth over Rs. 12 121 7 Written Annoer* AGRAHAYANA 6. 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 122

IS hs is lying dumped in C.P.W.D. from Khandsari Manufactures Associa. Stores at Exhibition Groiftid since tions to the effect that consequent on 1972 and will become rusted if not decontrol of sugar and the free avail­ disposed of early; ability Of sugar in the market the khandsari industry has been facing (b) if so, the details of the material difficulties in the disposal of their declared unserviceable and the diffi­ products. They have suggested cer­ culties being faced by Government in tain relief measures like reduction of disposing of/auctioning this unservice­ excise duty and exemptions from able material; and local taxes like purchase tax. (c) when it is proposed to dispose it of by auction or otherwise? (b) These proposals have been ex­ amined in detail and it ig seen that THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND the excise duty on khandsari sugar is HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ already quite low. Hence since most HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER of the controls on the khandsari indus­ BAKHT): (a) Certain Electrical goods try are in the hands of the State Gov­ wroth about Rs. 11.77 lakhs at book ernments. they are being consulted in value are lying stored. regard to further exemptions or reliefs from local taxes. The Banking (b) and (c). These are' dismantled Division has also been made aware of electrical light fittings, switch gear, the problems of credit faced by the fans, cables, wires, sundry materials, Khandsaris. and accessories and will be disposed of by auction through DGS&D after survey reports are sanctioned by Government.

10 59 wnwfy t fmffWWT, Relief to Khandsari Industry iflr vcTPT ^ 1058. SHRI KUISUMA KRISHNA MURTHY: (^) fJTT JT? t ^ ftrWT ^ DR. VASANT KUMAR 1977 # PANDIT: 3 srf^mcTptft Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased (fi) wm ^ ^ ftp ^ to state: v n r f f ^ ^ ^ «rr%fr 4 1977 ^

(a) whether Government is aware ^ ^30 1 of the problem of the agro-based and labour-intensive khandsari industry which are mostly created by the big Bugar mills; and («t) Ob) if so, what steps Government mtfiPRT ^nrt fW ^ Propose to take to provide relief to this industry?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ftiHT, ^ (iro the m in is t r y o f AGRICULTURE m ) (V) * ^ I ^ and ir r ig a t io n (SHRI BHANU ^TTVTT < v A y g 'V ' ^ ^ PRATAP SINGH): (a) The Govern­ ment has received representations * fW ?n»T^ I I 123 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 124

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(^) f’TR^rf^^ TT^ift # fwv^rm iirfFnft (v) ^ ^ firrr fZTT ^ ftrd lihnyrr ^ vTT9i®r ftnn ^ *tt 'dn¥1 f (2 %r^WT ^ H sn^ftrmwr ^ m ftr^hr fim t — f^) ftwT ? ^UT ^ Tjft fTwrn ^ ^ ^ firrfriT ¥T ^ 1. %TTCT 51%^ m ; 2. IWTTW (^) rr ffirr ^ 3. if«r iflr w ftx 4. »rfRT^ 5. WT ^ vrtvT ♦ ? ^ w T^ffi 6. XTWWFT fit J ITTT sft^ 7. r^ < i ifrt* f»T flfr WW 8. 3)%^ f^tfPT »nn ^ ? 9. SfinnT VTTR ftwn, n*n^ wFTni iitn iWt (¥To WlfW VW : (v) HAv ^ sHifn fk'fhi fWTW Central Housing Loans to Jammu and fmr i I qr Kashmir State ^ WPTT ^ \ ^ irv yf^ TTiir HTvrft ^ggtftpT ^ iTpft i fir^ 1060. SHRI ABDUL AHAD VAKIL: l?fT WITT ^ ^TTT ^IrlT ^ f^OTT Will the Minister of WORKS AND ^3^>T ftr*r smx ^ i w ^TrTT ^ 1 HOUSING AND SOTPLY AND RE­ x n f^ ^ ^TOT- HABILITATION be pleased to state: fsRT ZTT\ ^ ^ ^ irnrr (a) whether Jonimu and Kashmir Government has approached Central Government with a propORal for long (^) ?lh (n) PT 134 term loans for constructing Housing ftWT *pn}^ ^ tffnr ^ | 1 colonies in the State; and Tnrvhr rr^rr ^7-Tnri>hT 5Tjt »TTT ^ 1 f^ -5 (b) if so, what is the Central Gov­ fniw 10 finwT «rf^ vt i98>84 ernment’s reaction thereta? % ?T^ *1 ^ VWI ftFTR ^ fVITT THR MINISTER OF WORKS AND »nn ^ :— HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HA«1UTATIGN fSHRI SIKANDER BAKHT):

Ex -M.Ps’ in pogsession of Govern­ ment accommodation 106 3. ^ Pnrf«r 1062. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: [ iftr WFcnpr tot rftr jW ir ^?TT»T ^ f»Tr I Will the Minister of WORKS AND h o u s in g a n d s u p p l y a n d r e ­ (?p) w ^ habilitation be pleased to state: ^ ^ ^ ITT f (a) the* Mmes of all former Mi'im- bers of Parliament who are still ccc*u- pying government accommodation; (nr) ^ wTvrft ^ irRnr (b) Whether the said persons are paying subsidised rent or commercial (^) sjftTT I ? rent; (c) full facts regarding (a) and vb) above, giving reasons why tne said ftirfw

(e) whether Government have pro­ 21,300 ^ ^ ^TTVR # secuted one Or more of such persons ?TTT^ Prm t ^ wr#tt for any offence of law and if so, with $ *RrriT 3iV ^ what results? THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDE-R Funds to U.P. for caitls breeding BAKHT): (a) Only one Ex-M.P. of IFiiu^od Lok Sabha and 15 Ex-M.Ps of Rajya Sabha are still in occupation of 1064. SHRI RAJENDRA KUMAR Government accommodation. Two SHARMA: Will the Minister of AGRI­ statements 5 h o w in g their particulars CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be are la id on the t a b le of the House pleased to state: [Placed in Library. See No. LT-2871/ 781. (a) whether Government have any special plan to allo?atQ sufficient (b) S/Shri Jai Ram Das Daulat funds to the Uttar Pradesh State f*.r Ham and Mahavir Tyagi are paying augmenting fine breed cattle potential ^ent under FR. 45-B with Depart- in the National interes: to meet food niental Charges. Remaining Ex-MPs shortage; and paying at Market Rate. (b) if so, the salient feotures of the ^c) and (d). Full facts and the plan? ^ Gps taken to get the accommodation vacated are given in the statements ^wred to in part (a) above. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ TURE a n d IRRIGATION (SHRI This Ministry takes action as SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) the (E Provisions of Public Premises Central Governmetit are allocating Unauthorised occupants) funds for the pui^se by way of im­ plementing the Central/CentraAly 127 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1&78 'Written Answers 128 Sponsored Programmes in the Nation- Reciassifleation of Goyemment al/regional interest in Uttar Pradesh Accommodation as well as in other States/U.Ts. 1065. SHRI BHANU KUMAR SHAS- (b) The following major schemes TRI: Will the Minister of WORKS concerning cattle development are al­ AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND ready functioning or are being propos­ REHABILITATION be pleased to ed under ®th Five Year Plan in Cen­ state: tral/Centrally Sponsored Sectors: (b ) how many times classification (i) Intensive cattle development of houses with reference to entitle­ project, Meerut/Ghaziabad districts ments of Government employee^ for in Milk-shed areas of Delhi Milk different types of aocjnimoiatioii have Scheme for enhancing productive been revised; potential of local milk cattle and buffaloes; (b) what were the reasons for each (ii) Establishment oi an Exotic revision; and Cattle Breeding Farm at Babugarh, (UP) has been sanctioned during (c) whether Government propose 1978-79, for production of high qua­ to review cases of hardship wherein lity pure exotic bulls of jersey breed the Government employees who were for cross-breeding programmes in otherwise entitled to higher type of the State; accommodation but due to the envi­ (iii) Establishment of a Central saged reclassificdlioi of houses, =»re Cattle Breeding Farm at Andesh adversely affected? Nagar, Lakhimpur Kheri District for production of high quality and THE MINISTIJR OF WORKS AND ritorious pure-breed bulls of Hols- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ tein-friesian breed for cross-breed- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER ing programme; BAKHT): (a) When the new allot­ (iv) Progeny testing programme to ment rules were introduced in l»t)3, produce proven sires at Chak—Gan- classification of residences was chang­ jaria Farm in District Lucknow for ed. It is proposed to change the exist­ producing high quality Sahiwal ing classification from 1st December, Bulls for extensive use through fro­ 1978. The entitlements of officers have zen semen technology on local herds been changed twice after the introduc­ in order to bring about systematic tion of new rules, it is also proposed genetic improvement; to revise the entitlements from 1st December, 1978. (v) Expansion of A.I. work, health cover and fodder development Acti­ (b) The revision of entitlement was vities In six districts of the State necessitated by the revision of pay- under drought Prone Area Program­ scales of Government employees as me; well as the nece«ty for constructing (vi) Integrated programme of so­ more quarters within the available re­ cial forestry and cattle development sources to meet the housing needs of in Banda and Allahabad districts in a larger number of Government em­ collaboration with Bhartiya Agro- ployees. Industries Foundation; (c) Officers who become entitled to (vii) Expansion of frozen semen lower types than the ones in their oc­ bull gtations for cross-breeding lo­ cupation as a re^ t of revision of cal cattle with exotic dairy breeds entitlement or reclassification of re­ is being proposed under the 6th Five sidences, will be allowed to continue Year Plan. in the residences in their occupation, 129 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers i j o if they are otherwise eligible. How­ of Bihar have reported that the riot­ ever, for the purpose of new allotment ous mob comprised largely of persons the revised entitlement norms will be from neighbouring districts of West followed. Bengal.

CTR *l¥K^ WflT The estimate of Subarnarekha multipurpose Project prepared by the 1066. ¥To ^ State Government provide an ©mount of Rs. 8.41 crores for acquisition of frr : land and for rehabilitation of the dis­ placed per&ons under the Chandel (v) ^ ^ ITT * ^ reservoir. The State Government is «rfefT ir ^ ^rm looking into the question of adequate %tYJ77n ^ sznr^ZTT ; xftK and fair compensation to the affected persons. (^) m v M ^

fflTl ffrq ^TT t ? Abolition of Public Schools 1068. SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRAj Will the Minister of EDUCATION, f f t >iftT R t ^ ^wrm ^ x m SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE («ft smrr fk5) : (^f) (g) be pleased to state: VT'JTR^ 5TOTT gTT q-^ 5TOTT (a) whether Government are consi­ zrq % ^Y tr sir ^ ^ dering a scheme lor abolition of public f?=TTT c irri’ I f^f*T‘rJT ^JTHT fe tr and fancy schools for children; i ^ 1% q W w vtutRtiT ^ f?HT^T 5F7WPTT, ^ f'TTTq qT (b) w hether tlie att.'ntion of the 5TTf^ I #.T fcpf^) ?FiT Ministry has be^*"^ drawn to tlic reac­ ?rnTT%T ir^P=f ^ ferr itftt t i tion of the Prime Minister to the education of chiMren studying in Opposition to in^p’smenlation of public schools expressed in an inter­ Subarnarekha Troject at Ciiandel view to Illustrated W e ek ly published from Bombay; and 1067. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the Ministei- of AGRICULTURE AND Cc) if so, che action proposed to be IRRIGATION be pleased to state: taken further by Government there­ on? (a) whether there has been steep opposition from the people of Chho- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, tanagpur for the im.plenientation of SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE the Subarnarekha Project at Chandel (DK. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- resulung in recent firings; and DER); (a) to (c). In an interview published in Illustrated Weekly of (b) if so, the facts and details in India dated October 1, 1978 the Prime t-iis T'-'C'ird and the stops taken Minister has made the following ^horeon? obse vation in regard to public schools: — t h e m in is t e r o f a g r ic u l - TUfiZ AND IRRIGATION (SHRI “He (Mahatma Gandhi) did not SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) believe in sending his children to (b). There has been some resent­ public .schools. I (Morarji Desai) ment among the people likely to be too think that they (public schools) effected by the construction of Chan­ turn out snobs. My (Morarji D e s a i’s) nel dam over the amount of compen­ own children were not educated in sation for their land. As regards the any public school. In fact I (Morarji ^^cent firing at Jaida, the Government Desai) believe that they should be 131 Written Anwm NOVBMBBR 27, 1W8 Written Anmoer* 132

abolished. Of course, it cannot be (a) Progressive reconnaissance done overnight, We will have to see soil survey and mapping covering ___ You have to change people’s the different states of the country ideas by personal example/’ starting with priority areas Mke districts select^ for integrated Sometime back the matter of abo­ rural development programmes, lition of public schools was examined drought or flood prone areas, back­ and the legal opinion tendered to ward region, special problematic or Government was to the effect that any potential areas etc. and preparation action to abolish public schools will of soil and land use maps at Tehsil, be violative of Article 30 of the Cons­ district, state and country levels by titution in so far as the public schools abstraction and compilation. All the managed by minorities are concerned above maps and Soil Survey in­ and it would be violative of Article 19 formation will be utilised for com­ (g) of the Constitution in so ^ar as piling the Soil map of India on non-minority public schools are con­ 1:1 million scale. cerned. (b) Conduct research for a However Government are consider­ detailed charcterisation of Bench­ ing the question of bringing the pub­ m ark soils, their genesis, clas^ific'a- lic schools also into the system of pub­ tion and interpretation; hydrological lic education. properties of soils; use of remote sensing technique in a soil survey inter-disciplinary and inter-institu­ Bureau of Soil and Land use Survey tional research projects etc.

1069. SHRI V AS ANT SATHE: Will (c) Conduct need based training the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND programmes for nominees of State IRRIGATION be plea ed to state: Governments in Soil Surveys, map­ ping and soil classification and 'cor­ (a) whether the G^^vernment have relation. decided to establish a National Bureau of Soil and Land use survey with its (d) Coordinate Soil Survey acti­ headquarters at Nagpur; vities, participate in field reviews and undertake correlation work. (b) if so, details cf the proposal containing the natur? of vork and (e) Conduct workshops and semi­ the areas, order of investment etc. nar on themes covering Soil-Pro- for the next three years; duction linkages and land use plan­ ing. (c) whether the work on :he pro­ ject is bjing executed F^heduled (ii) Order of investment: and the reasons f'':r slow progress, if The outlay proposed for the next any; and 3 years is: (d) why the heacicjuartors of the (Rs. in lakhs) organisation conUnuoj to rem ain at Ncv/ Dc*’hi, and the ths actio’i taken/ 1979-80 112.86 proposed to ensnie shifting of the 1980-81 61.52 headquartGrs to Na^pu:^ as schedul­ ed? 1981-82 48.23

THE MINISTER OF AGRTCUI- (c) The ivork of the bureau is being TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI carried out as per schedule. The pro­ SURJJT SINGjH BARNALA): (u) gress of work in relation to the staff Yea, Sir. is satisfactory. Field scientists in the required number are not available as (b) (i) The nature and areas of yet. However, with additional re­ woik ar€‘ as follows: cruitment of staff in the coming years, 133 Written Answers AGBAHAYANA 0, 1900 (SAKA) Written^ Answers 13^

as proposed, the expected targets are 1978 relating to proposal from Bihar likely to be achieved. regarding project on River Porwan, Bakru and Konkai and state: (d) The headquarters of the Bureau was shifted to Nagpur in June, 1978. (a) whether the Central Govern­ The shifting from Delhi was done as ment have been infjormed of the soon as the temporary buildings to progress made in that regard by the house the Bureau became available State Government of Bihar; after renovation. (b) if so, the details of the pro­ gress made so far and what is the expected progress likely to be made 1070. w during the years 1978-79 and 1979-80; %f\j invm m i ^ and (c) whether the Central Govern­ (w>) ^ ?nrfcj % ^ ment will carry out the survey to , «rr TT^fV % r^rr TT^rxT^ 77^ protect the people thereof?

(?5) ^ TJ3^ ^ 8 00 0 THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ ^rhfl Tt ^TTT TtJ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ^rt ^ ; ?3[V SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) to (c). The Governnient of Bihar have (XT') ^7irr ^r^ri'jr'T l%r* split-up the Parman flood control tt ?Iyr ^F:Tr:;r f^^iT scheme into two phases. The scheme t ’ for Phase I was prepared in May, 1978 for an estimated cost of Rs. 789.60 lakhs. It envisages the construction of f^nrhr wk cT^^t ?Tk 5?t^ embankments downstream from the («r> ftnr?^T ?n!?T) : (^) 0 ?t jfm r National Highway. The Ganga Flood f^T I I Control Commission (GFCC) has ^ 7\i ?jf!?T ITT examined the scheme and comments ^rofy I thereon have been sent to the State Government for clarification. Replies (^) 1971-72 ^ gfsr^f^cr ttti ^mWT- thereto have not been received by ^ I 1978 ap> 3872 ^im ^ fspf ^ Ganga Flood Control Commission so TT^TT I far. The scheme for Phase II for the construction of embankments from (^) ?fr ^ Indo-Nepal border to the National ^T I I »TTif1f Highway has not yet been submitted ^ f?rtT 7T7?T HT^R TJTiTcfR’ by the Bihar Government. The pro­ fj=lfcj?ff'' ^rt tection works along Bakra river are t I T*Tq-'y:rr ^ included in the above schemes. ^ % t^n 1 977-7S ^r ^TTT ^i%(T fxly^r ^5T^f% JT cfr :qf^ Finai’sation of the Konkai cmljank- Rfycit , ment scheme and also the Parman Flood Control Scheine Phase II will have to be matched with the corres­ P**oiect on River Porvvan, Bakru ponding^ schemes to be prepared by and Koukai His Majesty’s Government of Nepal. The Nepalese Government have been 1071. SHRI HALIMUDDIN AIIMED: requested to expedite topographical M inister of AGRICULTURE surveys and the study of flood control irrigation be pleased to measures on Lohandra and Singhi in f to the reply given to Unstarred Nepal as already agreed to, as these question No. 3485 on the 21st March, are required for finalising the Parman 135 Wfittfii Aumrn NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written A n gers 136

Flood Control Scheme in India. On examination reforms, the guide­ During recent discussions, His lines indicate that the purpose of Majesty’s Gk>vernment of Nepal have sessftional evaluation should be to assured that they would take steps to bring about inter-action between implement the measures already teaching and learning on a continuing agi-eed upon. basis and to test the skills and abilities which cannot be tested through a U.G.C. GnideUnes to Universities written examination alone at the end of the term or course. The philosophy 1072. SHRI S. R. REDDY: Will the of grading system is to reduce sub­ Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL jectivity and irrationality in the WELFARE AND CULTURE be choice of subjects and at the same pleased to state: time b r in g about better comparability in performance in different subjects. (a) whether it is a fact that the The Semester system, properly linked University Grants Commission has with unit courses and credits enables recently issued new guidelines and students to have greater flexibility in have empfhasised generally on the the combination of courses, besides Universities to take steps to secure enabling them to t a k e up part of the the fullest advantage of the new courses in neighbouring institutions pattern of education; and and facilitating student mobility. The essential f e a tu r e s of all these reforms (b) if so, the details regarding the should be incorDorated in the courses introduction of new methods of teach­ to bring about proper integration of ing, examination reforms and grant of te a c h in g , learning a n d evaluation. autonomous status to colleges, essen­ tial features of sessional evaluation, The guidelines indicate that since Crading and semester systems? the proposal to restructure under­ graduate education may not be easy THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, to introduce in all affiliated colleges SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE simultaneously, greater autonomy may (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- be given to colleges to enable them DER); (a) and (b). The University to experiment with new courses, Grants Commission has circulated the methods of teaching and evaluation guidelines for reorganisation of cour­ and thus set the pace for change in ses at the plus three stage under the the whole system. new pattern of education in Septem­ ber, 1978. The guidelines suggest, among others, that teaching methods Representation from the Inmates of should include problem-solving exer­ Mana Camp cises Seminar discussions, case stu­ dies, tutorials, etc., for which specific 1073. SHRIMATI AHILYA P. time should be allotted. Formal lec­ RANGNEKAR: Will the Miiuster of turing should not constitute more than WORKS AND HOUSING AND two-third of the teaching-learning SUPPLY AND REHABILITATION be situation which in the final year, could pleased to state: be reduced further by laying greater emphasis on guided self-study. Class­ (a) whether he has received a re­ room lectures should increasingly be presentation from the refugees in- substituted by Seminar discussions. Inates of M^na Camp, District Raipur, Efforts should be made to make pro­ Madhya Pradesh about the self-settle­ ject work an integral part of the cur­ ment facilities to them; and riculum besides making provision which requires every student to use (b) if 90, the steps taken in this the library lor reference wofrk. matter? 137 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA «, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 138

THE MINISTER OF WORKS ANB a population of about 25.00 lakhs were HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND affected in the last floods and heavy rehabilitation (SliRI SIKAN- rains. Crops over an area of about DAR BAKHT); (a) Yes, Sir. 86,000 hectares and 6773 houses were damaged/destroyed. About 272 hu­ (b) Shri Manindra Chandra Das and man lives and 766 heads of cattle 20 other migrant families who were were also lost in these floods. The rendered off-dole in the past for one State Government estimated a total reason or the other such as desertion loss of private and public property at from camps, refused to move to re­ about Rs. 46 crores. habilitation sites, etc., were given a last chance to avail themselves of the (b) to (d). A Central Team led by resettlement benefits as a spccial case an Additional Secretary, Department on compassionate grounds and were of Agriculture and consisting of a readmitted into Mana Camp with all representative each of the Planning relief and rehabilitation benefits in Commission^ Department of Irrigation, June, 1977. They were offered two Department of Health and Depart­ chances for dispersal to Tawa Project ment of Expenditure, visited Himachal for furtfier settlement but on their Pradesh State from the 14th Septem­ refusal to move to Tawa Project, they ber to 16th September, 1978 for mak­ were discharged from the camps. As ing an on-the-spot assessment of the such they have rendered themselves situation caused by floods and require­ ineligible to any relief or rehabilita­ ment Of Central assistance for relief tion benefits thereafter. operations in the affected areas.

Central team to Flood Affected areas (e) On the basis of assessment made of Himachal Pradesh by the Central Team after taking into consideration the extent of damage 1074. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will caused and the resources of the State the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Government and recommendations of IRRIGATION be pleased to state: High Level Committee on Relief an Advance Plan assistance of Rs. 6.99 (a) what is the total damage in crores has been sanctioned by the terms of life and property in Himachal Central Government. Apart from this PTadesh caused due to last floods and 9,000 MTs Of wheat have been released heavy rains in that State; for free distribution in the affected (b) whether any Central team was areas among flood victims. Central sent to th e State for making an on Assistance for meeting the situation the spot study in the affected areas arising out of natural calamity is in Himachal Pradesh; given for the State as a whole and not District-wise. (c) what was the composition of the team; Discontinuance of Work on Gandak (d) if no team was sent what are Project the reasons therefor; and (e) what was th© central assistance 1075. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL given in this respect district-wise REDDY: WiU the Minister of AGRI­ against State demand? CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: t h e MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI (a) whether the work on Gandak SURJit KNGH BARNALA): (a) Project h &9 been discontinued; and Acoc^ing to the preliminary reports received from the State Goverhra^, (b) if to, the reasons therefor? 139 Written A««oer# NOVEMBBr XI. 1»78 Written Answer, 140 THE MINISTER OF AGRICQL- and Hyderabad are yet to be received. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Suitable measures will be considered No, Sir. after all the reports become available.

(b) Does not arise. State Governments have been al­ ready addressed regarding the need for vigilance to discourage students Draif Addiction amonir Students from the consumption of intoxicating drinks and drugs. 1076. SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY: WiU the Minister of EDUCATION, Statement SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: (1) The study covers the under­ graduate and post-graduate students (a) whether Government’s atten­ of colleges and university departments in Jaipur city. tion has been drawn to the ‘Hindu­ stan Times* dated the 25th September, (2) The period covered by the study 1978 that according to a survey co­ is 1976-77. vering more than 4,000 student? at j-ipur, every third college or uni­ (3) Important findings of the study versity student has had some ex­ are: perience of drugs, including tobacco and alcohol; (i) Every third College and Uni­ versity students has had some ex­ (b) whether it is also a fact that perience of drugs including tobacca incidence of drug use among students and alcohol. with Convent and public school back­ ground is higher than among students (ii) Alcohol and tobacco were educated in non-public schools; and found to be major drugs of abuse.

(c) if so^ the details regarding the (iii) Only about one-fourth of the study of this survey and the reaction college students were found to be of Government thereon? current users of drugs including alcohol and tobacco. THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, (iv) Two-third students use de­ SOCL\L WELFARE AND CULTURE pressants, one-fourth use narcotics (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- and one-tenth use stimulants and DER): (a) Yes, Sir. hallucinogens. (b) Yes, it is one of the findings of (v) Ratio of male drug users to the study in Jaipur. female drug users is about 8:2. (c) A statement containing details (vi) Incidence of drug use varied of the study and main findings is ap­ with the age groups of users. pended. (vii) The incidence of drug use is The Grovemment is seised of the more among students who had problem. The Government commis­ education in public and convent sioned studies in the cities of Bombay, schools. Jaipur, Madras, Delhi, Hyderabad, Varanasi and Jabalpur. Reports have (viii) Affluent students tend to been received in respect of Jaipur, experiment drugs more than those Jabalpur, Varanasi and Madras. The who come from lower socio-econo- reports of studies at Delhi, Bombay mic strata of population. 141 Written Answers AGRi\HAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 142

^ ^ w!? M m threatened to cut down production of sugar as a result of decontrol of 1077. ^ TTn *Rn fpfti ftiwrf sugar; a^tid nat ^ f^

The Forest Survey of India will pro­ nucleus to train the inventory staff of vide adequate data support for forestry the organisation. planning to Government of India, the State Governments, Forest Develop­ (c) Does not arise. ment Corporations and other bodies. Most of the information will be stored Rehabilitation Ministry Employees in the form of a Data Bank using a Oo-operative House Bnildin^ Society Compute ;ised system. Ltd., New Delhi A sample survey of low intensity 1081. SHRI L. L. KAPOOR: will be carried out on a continuous oasis to estimate growth, mortality SHRI SHIV NARAIN and cut in the forest of the country SAR SONIA: and likely environmental consequences Will the Minister of WORKS AND of alternative land uses and forest HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ management. HABILITATION be pleased to refer to the replies given in respect of Lok For the above purposes, the organisa­ S^bha Question Nos. 6870 and 1831 tion will have 5 Units: dated 12th April, 1973 and 27th June, (1) Forest Resources & Majyping: 1977 respectively, regarding allotment The Mapping Directorate of forest of 60 crores of land to the Rehabilita­ Survey of India will make forest re­ tion Ministry Employees’ Co-operative sources map at 1 : 50,000 scale. Such House Building Society Ltd., New maps will be compatible with the Delhi and to state the reasons; maps of soil, geology etc. presently under preparation by the respective (a) why there has been inordinate departments. This work will be done delay in allowing the Society to go in collaboration w^ith the Survey of ahead with development of Land India, the National Remote Sensing thereby enabling them to make allot­ Agency and the Indian Space Research ment of plots to its members; Organisation. (b) w^hy there has been so much (2) Forest Inventory Unit: This delay in fixing the price of the land TTiiit w'ill compile the existing infor­ allotted to the Society; and mation from the Working Plans and (c) the date by which the above annual administrative reports and matters will be decided satisfactorily? develop a data bank. In addition, sample plots w’ill be laid down to esti­ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND mate growth, mortality and cull. HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ (3) Data Banking Unit: The main HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER job of the data banking is to provide BAKHT); (a) to (c). After a similar computer services to the Forest question was answered on 27th June, Survey of India, State Forest Depart­ 1977, Gk)vernment are examining the ments and other forest organisation. matter afresh as certain aspects of the allotment warrant it. (4) Macro Planning Unit: This Unit will collect forest statistics, market Rural Water Supply Schemes in data etc. and develop data base for macro level planning in forestry and GnjMnit coordinate the national and State 1082. SHRI F. Pi GAEKWAD: Will Plans. the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ (5) Coordinator & Consultancy Unit: TATION be pleased to state: This Unit wiU take up micro-planning projects related to social and environ­ (a) the number of villages in the mental forestry. It will also have a country and particularly in Gujarat l45 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 146 still lacking in adequate and safe THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND water supply; HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ (b) when these villages are likely HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER BAKHT): (a) So far, 41894 Sri Lanka to be covered under the Rural Water Supply Scheme; and repatriate families have been resettled in Tamil Nadu; (c) in view of the fact that we have still to g.o a long way, will Govern- ) An amounl of Rs. 21.35 crores mtnt consider giving top priority to (Ri. ia.41 crores as loan and Rs. 3.44 the problem of providing water sup­ crores as Grants-in-aid) has been re­ ply in rural areas and allocating lar­ leased to the Government of Tamil ger outlays in the Five Year Plan? Nadu for resettlement of Sri Lanka repatriates. Full cost or resettlement THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND is borne by the Central Government. HOUSING AND SUPPLY .xN'.O RE­ (c) About 7,500 Sri Lanka repatriate HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER families are yet to be resettled in BAKHT): (a) According to survey Tamil Nadu. carried out in 1971-72, the number of problem villages which did not have (d) According to the two agree­ safe drinking water was 153000 of this, ments signed between the Govern­ 2262 villages were located in Gujarat ment of India and the Government of State. Sri Lanka in 1964 & 1974, a total of 6 lakh persons of Indian origin together (d ) and (c). It is proposed to cover witii their natural increase were to be the problem villages during the current repatriated to India by 1981. But by Five Year Plan. With a view to the end of September, 1978 only c^chieving this objective the allocations 2.36.000 accountable persons together in the State sectors have been sub­ with their natural increase of approxi­ stantially increased and in addition, mately 66,000 persons were repatriated sizeable allocations are being made leaving behind 3,64,Q00 accountable available since 1977 under Centrally persons plus their natural increase Sponsored Accelerated Rural water yet to be repatriated. At the official supply programme to solve this prob­ le\el talks held in August, 1978 bet­ lem within the stapulated period ween the officials of the Government jointly. of India and Sri Lanka, it has been agreed to repatriate tentatively the Resettlement of Repatriates from Sri I ccountable persons at the rate of Lanka in Tamil Nadu 35.000 persons per annum and at this rate, the remaining accountable per­ 1083. SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: Will sons togeth?r with their natural in­ the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ crease will be repatriated in about 11 ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ years time, that is by the end of 1989 TATION be pleased to state: or in 1990. (a) how many Sri Lanka repatriate families l^ave been resettled in Tamil Amendment to Land Reform Acts Nadu so far; 1084. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: (b) what is the cost of such reset­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE tlement borne by th<=^ Central and AND IRRIGATION be pleased to State Governments; state: (c) how many families are yet to (a) how many States have amended te resettled; and the existing land acts recently; and (d) how many more families are (b) how far their amendments have expected to be received from Sn helped the rural poor and details Lanka in the coming years? thereof? 147 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1&78 Written Answers 14&

THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- ^ C I ^ % ifnhvT TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI % fiivnr mvhr SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) 8RT ^JiT ^ tfhc 1% ^ and (b). Nearly all States have 3H% I I amended their land reforms laws in broad conformity with the National Unanthoriised Construction in East uC Guidelines. These amendments have Kailash, New DelhJ yielded larger ceiling-surplus areas. According to the latest information 1086. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: WiU available with the Government of the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ India, nearly 15.76 lakh acres of ceil­ ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ ing-surplus land have been distribut­ TATION be pleased to refer to reply ed already among nearly 10.55 lakh given to Unstarred Question No. 2132 bcneficiaries after the laws were on 31st July, 1978 regarding unautho­ amended in the light of the National rised construction of mezzanine floors Guidelines. in the multistoreyed buildings in the DDA Community Shopping Centre of ffisr East of Kailash and state:

1085. : (a) whether information called for therein has since been collected and : if so, w’hether he would lay it on the table of the House; and

WT ftwrf ^ ^ * (b) what penal action has been taken against the owners of such build­ ings for having deliberately violated (v) TOHT % the approved plan by constructing the mezzanine floors, thus giving them iftlRT ^'1 I , perennial additional rental income («) ^ ?T'^m rifrn ^qr and why DDA failed to check it at the construction stage? t ; ^ (^T) ?fT ^TVJ\ I THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ ffti r tr Rnrrf («rt g^^ftd HABILITATION (SHRI SnCANDAR. BAKHT); (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. A. statement is annexed.

Stmtement

Ui^tjrr^i Q^i*s*ion jVj. 2132 dited tks ^ist July, 1978 by Shri K. Lakkappa— Unauthorised construction in- thf D .D .A. approved plans in East o f Kailaxh, Delhi.

Question Answer

(a) whether Government are aware of unautho« (a) Yes, Sir. rised construction of mezzanine floors by plot builders of muhi-storeyed buildings in the Gommanity Centre, East of Kailash in con­ travention of the plans approved by DDA.

(b) if so, what penal action has been uken against (b) Notices have been served on the p lo t these plot holdf*rs for increasing their covered holders to rcctify the deviations, area in such an unauthorised manner and getting rent therefor ; 149 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers

(c) what action DDA took to rectify the deviation (c) The buildings under tonstriiciicn aie at the construction stage and whether these plot inspected by the staH of the DDA before holders acted in conniv nee with the DDA the owners apply for ‘C ’ ‘D ’ fcinns re­ officials and inspite of this deviation completion quired under the sanitary bye-laws or certilicates have been issued to these errant at the time of completion. The con­ landlords; and struction by that time is almost over- As such, the question of DDA asking the plot owners to rectify the deviations at the construction stage, does not arise. Owners are supposed to follow the sanctioned building plans and in eases where deviations have come to notice, completkion certificate has not been issued so far to the plot holders-

(d) tlir nuinlj;“r of cases in which the properties in (d) No case of transfer is in the not’ce of which (Ik* plots in the Community Centre, the Delhi Development Authority. East of K iil'ish which were originally in the nameof one holder who later transferred to a number of persons after the multi-storeyed buildin:;j* came up and whether the extra co^fp^a^<• b v put tin up of mazzanine floors were kept in view while permitting the transfers of one plot to a numl)er of persons.

Purchase of Plant of Coca Cola Cor­ quality control requirements in con­ poration by Modern Bakeries nection with the activities of Modem: Bakeries. n87. DR. P. V. PERIASAMY: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Sugrar Cane Price IRRIGATION be pleased to state: 1088. SHRI D, D. DESAI: WiU the* (a) whether it is a fact that Modern Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Bakeries have purchased the erst­ IRRIGATION be pleased to state: while plant of Coca-Cola Corporation; (a) whether Government have fixed (b) if so, the amount paid for the a new minimum price for cane; purchase; and (b) if so whether sugar industry (c) the precise direction in which has complained that the States are the plant has been or is proposed to asking to pay more; be utilised by Modern Bakeries? (c) whether the industry has also complained that sugar decontrol THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE affecting its profitability; and MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- (d) the Gk)vernment’s reaction there­ TAP SINGH): (a) and (b). Modem to? Bakeries, are considering a proposal ^or the purchase of the plant but no THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE final decision has yet been taken. MINISTRY OF AGRICULURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP (c) The plant has facilities for pro­ SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. duction of concentrates and caramel required by Modern Bakeries for Its fb) No official communication from beverage business. It has also labora­ the representatives of the sugar Indus­ tory that can be used to meet re­ try has been received by the Govem- search and development as also ment to this effect. *51 Written Annoers NOVEMBBB 27, W l Written Anwer# 152

(c) Government has received repre- 3. Jammu University sentations trom the representatives 4. Punjab University of the sugar industry that consequent on decontrol there has been a steep 5. Punjabi University fall of sugar prices and, hence, there (b) to (d). The information is being should be certain regulatory measures collected and will be laid on the Table like reduction in excise duty, resump­ of the Sabha. tion of monthly releases, etc., to offset their difficulties. (d) The Government has taken note TO gfiiOTT of the points mentioned in the above representations but it has been felt 1090 : that in view of the fact that only three months have elapsed since the de­ vtTTinfhrm ^ : control of sugar, it would be too early to pass judgement on its Effects. A close watch is, however, being kept on the sugar situation and appropriate vn finroiii TOin ^ measures will be taken if required.

Teaching of Panjabi Language in (v) ^fnnT^fy, m^rrr, Universities ^ f ^ - 5 3 ^ ii ^T^TT 1089. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMCX>WALIA. Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE (^) WT ift ^ ^ AND CULTURE be pleased to state: ^TOTTT t ^ ^ (a) the number and names of the k t ; Universities in India which provides the teaching of Punjabi language upto ^ ^ TK 'T^TT ^ TTO Post Graduation; ir^fnn ^ fW h (b) whether the Union Territories ^ ^ 3RT ^ of Delhi and are in short of Punjabi teachers and lecturers in (^) ^ T schools and colleges; W 51^ WT ^ iTT$7ft ^frr ?fT (c) what is the number of students f ? in Chandigarh and Delhi who have requested to learn Punjabi language; and ftrWT, H*TT^ TOT ^ TT»ir : (^) (d) how many teachers have been ?nn: frFfr JTTT appointed in the years 1977-78, 1978-79 *i) ^ ^ fTjprn in Delhi aiid Chandigarh to teach t if tt^To wo Punjabi language? fi(wrw »ii»<+ *nrt f’nwsT'rfiiv

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, if*' 3M W ^

(w) f^nnr Jnftrfrrf^ jrt f^TJR ^ ^STT# ^ f «ftr f ^ ftTT^ tFF VTT# ^ TK ^ SITIT ?ftT «TTtT*frf ^ | f i firr^ WTcrrr ^ t| f i Il^fror ^ pR' ^ 5 ^W W t ?

fvrf^ whc inwni ?tot jfir iftr *Wt («ft f r o m t o t ) : (ap) 3ft, ^ I 1091. fW ftWTH ^ITRlFf : ^ Pnrfnr ifl-c HT^TRT fPTT jfir ifk yrirfH »igft (??) ^ ^?rm vihrrfrift farvRT snfERTTvr % tt: ^ f?TTT hk^\D ? r t^ ^ WIT iTR ^ ^ ^ 28 ^(TT ^tt^t ^ i%tT f^rftrifr ^ «I4H 1978 V IRIRtf^d 5T^ ^o 4707 ^ fW^T dlpTt r^<*^ fq «^. m JHI It4 «T> 1^1 V i ^ JT^ iRTR ^ PfT : f^nrW ^TFT ^ cfsr mi4h ^ THSm ?TR ^ ^ 132 ^ (v) 5rTfWTT>T ^ mmr tk fn^mwr ^ ^ ^ % 132 w «rT I ^ ^ fSRV ^ ^ ^ ^ ITVt ^ vtwA ^ f^ vhT^ qr ^ ^ *Ft ^ I fq q ^ snmr PptW jrY t ^TTT f I ^7 ^ t^TiR ftr^TT t; ( ^ ) I (^) ft, ai v r i ^ t iftr JT5TT^ ^ ^ Iw »T?q- qT (^ ) ^ ^ ^TT W> ^TT^ ^ t; (^j) ^ ^ t I P tt: ^ ^ ^ f e n W I TTftT ^ (^ ) f^TT m piteT 5^7^ fTWT 4 7 07 TFsftTV m i^ ^ f^irfmEfhr s 12 t 132 ?rrt^ ^'T OTT SPT % ^R ST^TRT 51^7 ^ ^ fq'TJiH ^rrftr^^T^ ^ IW t %, ^VFTT?1T^ % ?T5^ ^ ^ ft^PT I I mfWr (^) ^rfi? 'tjftfTrT ^ | f ^ f'TT?: ^ ^ ’WN'i'+T ^^RTcTHT ^ ^rrt^ q^'f ^fft ^ z H ?r^ ^ ^ ^ w ^ I

^o^fto ^0 ^0 (JTT7-tT /* ) ■ 91 . 27 6400.00 67, 500. 00 pT^Fft^fsr^

Tf ^ if fsr^ 99 . 96 5100.00 63, 300. 00

93 . 72, 5100.00 59,700 00

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98. 55 7300.00 72.000. 00

101.91 5400.00 65,000. 00

^ ^Tt 101.91 5400.00 66 000.00 155 Written Atwwm NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Ansioera 156

Demand, snpply and cost of Against the above requirements, lol- Fertilisers lowing supplies have been made from 1092. SHRI RAMJIWAN SINGH: domestic production and imports till Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE end of September, 1978: AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state the annual demand, supply and cost of different chemicals fertilisers in the (In 11 ;li tonnes) country at present? N’torgcn P205 K20 Total

THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ 19-15 5-41 3-28 27-84 TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): The agronomic requirements of fertilisers The balance supplies will be made of each State and Union Territory are tn the remaining months of the cur­ assessed before each cropping season rent Rabi season. The maximum sel­ on the basis of the projected area under various crops and an assumed percent­ ling prices of urea, Ammonium Sul­ age increase in the consumption. The phate (S: Calcium Ammonium Nitrate net requirements so assessed for the are controlled statutorily and they are year 1978-79 are as under: +he same for both imported and in­ (iii hikli tonnes; digenous fertilisers of these three K.2O Total A statcn'.cnt indicating the retail prices of Pool Feililiscrs is enclosed. 34*-23 10-99 6*38 5 1 ‘60 Statement

S. S j. N a’hs of Fer'.iliser Price (Rs. per tonne)

1 Urea (46%N) 1550 2 U rea (4 5 % N ) 1510 3 Amm. Salphate (2i%N) 9«5 4 Cilciiim Amm. Nitrate (25%N) 1015 ( 2 7 % N ). I ICX) (28 % N) 1 140 (26 % N) 1060 5 Arrni. Sulphate Nitrate 1060 n A m m . C h loride 995 7 D .A .P . . 2218 8 M .A .P . 2325 9 Triple Super Phosphate 1375 10 M.O.P. . 795 11 S.O.P. . 1295 12 (21:20:0) 1590 13 A ’^P {2]:ry.o) 1760

14 \SP (2f:24.;o) 2045 15 AMP ^?'):i4:o) 1555 16 A'^P (19:20:0) 2030 17 N.P.K. (15:15:15) 1520 157 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 158

18 14:14:14 . 1450

19 14:28:14 . 185^ 20 13:13:13 . i34<> 21 12:24:12 • 22 11:11:11 1 150

23 17:17:17 1810 24 13:13:20 1905 25 17:17:16 . 20f)0 26 28:10:10 , 1770

Memorandum from Employees of Dr'iry Development Board. Its Mother Dairy maDr.gement is autonomous and has outhority to take appropriate decisions 1093. SHRI BHACxAT RAM; Will in the best interests of the organisa- the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND tioa. In the c-'.-'g of Shri K. J. Singh, IRRIGATION be pleased to state: the organisation to have taken the decision to tei’iiiinate his services (a) whether a deputation of Mother strictly in accordance with provisions Dairy Emploj^ees Union (Regd.) hand­ of the contract. The dismissal of ed over a memorandum to him on Shri Kanwal Jeet Singh, Driver-cum- 1st September, 1978; Sa''.esman, hns tiov7 become the subject (b) if so, the main contents of the m atter of conri^iation proceedings in memorandum; the Office of Lrjbou.r Commissioner, De'hi in accordance with the provi­ (c) reaction of Government there- sions of Industrial Disputes Act, tp; and 1947. The Conciliation Officer has also advised the workers to stop the (d) why the Government has not realy hunger strike forthwith. intervened to solve the difficulties of the employees of Mother Dairy who Upper Wardha Project are agitating in protest against the 1004. SHRI SANOTSHRAO GODE: dismissal of their President, the agi­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE tation having started on 27th August AND IRRIGATION be pleased to 1978 and six employees arrested and state; one employee sitting on fast unto death till now? (a) whether upper Wardha Project; is being delayed for want of funds; THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- (b) what is the schedule of com­ TURE a n d IRRIGATION (SHRI pletion of this irrigation project: S13RJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) (c) will the Government see that Ves. Sir. roads are constructed in the command circa of this nroiect simultaneously (b) The main request was for the with the constru(.-tion of the project; reinstatement of Shri Kanwal Jeet and SiriL’h, Driver-cum-Salesman, who had f'd) \-ill the Hov^rnment adhere to ’jcen dismissed by Molher Dairy from th.? promise given by the Covernme?it 24th August, 1978 (after duty hours); of Maharashtra to the project suf­ ferers to rehibilitate them v/e1l in (c) and (d). The Mother Dairy is advance of the complement of Upper looked after by the National Wardha project? 159 WriUen Answers NOVEMBER 27. 1978 Written Answers i6o

THE MINISTER OF AGRIOTL- TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ifTWT ^ ^ %fh: ^ SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) ^ ^ + K ^ and (b). The Government of Maha­ r+d^l ^ srfN’ rashtra have reported that the Upper Wardha Project is not being delayed for want of funds. They have further intimated that the head works of the project are proposed to be completed cy March, 1985 and both right and ITolT^ ^ TTWI iTSft («ft left bank canals by June, 1987 in all WR jmq (t) fr^ respects. ^ 1974 (ITTJTFRT :) (c) and (d). The Slate Government ^ ^TTWT 5^^ I Of ^ Hi ^ f?rn[ have informed th-^t attempts will be ^ «rt I TSR ^ 1^ ifv made to construct the roads in the Command Area of the project simul­ ^ I taneously with construction of the project and to rehabilitate project sufferers well in advance of the com­ pletion of the project. ftrwT grrn ^

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THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION. ^ STO ^ t| 5^ ^ 55 ^Tr^n t^OCIAL WELFA^K AND CULTURE »:DR. PRATAP C1L\NDRA CHUN­ 1 0 9 s. *!>tV T!TT^ : ^ KER): (n) No, Sir. ?fK 5JTRTH ?Jk 5pn^ ^ : (b) and (c). Do not arise.

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(^) % i\TR 9trct>t pf)^ ^Emfxiff ^ ^TPTT W I ^ 5TT^ f^»T; gTTT ^R)Tf WT ^ nt I ? i 6 l Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 162

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(^) ^ ^ ^ ?T?^^ jfrsnTT king in Municipal and Government €t SRTTftr ^T^T f^rfW ^ rf^ Schools, Delhi where senior teachers are drawing less than their juniors; ^ ^ ^ f^^TTf^ ^ ^ (b) whether a Committee of Secre­ Tj ^ t ^r^*t ^pt ^ ^=tt% taries of concerned department went ^ t I q t ^ f t % 5»rrT ^'tcTT I f^ffhr S?R‘JRT H 5T=^3r ^ 2jf;5 T^T % I into this question; and (c) how long it will take to decide (^) Tfreirmftr tfT^nrr ^ ^ttr f^ R ^ the question of anomalies in the pay ?rq q'rsRT ^ ^ft i and allowances of certain senior and ^T^^rTSrfsr ifl JiHl ^ f^' f^^lfTTT yo ^«fdK junior teachers? ^ ^?PT ^ ^ i f^TT 14. 50 ^frg- ^ 5R«TRV Mffljpf. ^'T 1 9 7 4 -7 8 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ?^TR ^ 4.25 THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, ^ ^ I 14.50 #; ?T»i=3T ^^ tt V jc^ SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ^ f%i‘' 't^t^tt sRTiftr ^rrr% vrm (SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARA- ^ t| t I KATAKI): (a) The question of re­ moving anomalies in the pay scales pf teacher.s working in Schools under Anomalies in Pay an^ Allowances of Delhi Administration and Municipal Teachers in Delhi Corporation i!=; under consideration of the Govemn .nt in consultation with 1105. SHRi K. A. RAJAN; Will the Mini.qter of EDUCATION, SOCIAL Delhi Administration. WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased (b) Yes, Sir. to state: (c) Thi? is a complicated issue and (a) whether it is a fact that Gov­ efforts are being made ^o arrive at ernment have not yet taken a decision an appropriate solution as early as in the cases of certain teachers wor­ possible. 3 59 Written Answers A‘"/nAHAYANA 6 1300 (SAKA) Written Answers ijo

Facilities for Ginning of Kapas (b) what is the expected date when Government will be able to provide 1106. SHRi S. R. DAMANI: Will them accommodation; and the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (c) total number of Quarters likely to be allotted to this category by (a) whether there exist inadequate December, 1978? facilities in the country for the gin­ ning of ‘Kapas*; THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ (b) whether due to the poor ginning HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR facilities and working of old gins, the BAKHT): (a) There are 1090 em­ grade of cotton has become much ployees entitled to type II accommo­ inferior; and dation at Delhi/New Delhi who have (c) if so, the steps taken by Gov­ completed 20 years of service and have not been provided with Govern­ ernment to modernise and rehabili­ ment accommodation. tate the Ginning Factories? (b) No time limit can be indicated. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ Government has, however, undertaken TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI a crash programme of construction of SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) 5000 B type quarters during the next No, Sir. nee years. (b) The g rad e and quality of some (c) It is not possible to indicate ttie xjf the long staple cottons are re- number of quarters likely to be al­ poited to have been adversely affect- lotted by December 1978 as allotment d not because of old igins but due to depends upon vacation of quarters by improper ginning as the gins are not other employees and construction of being properly maintained and neces­ new quarters. sary adjustments are also not made at time of their operation. Funds utilised fOr Rural Link Roads (c) Does not arise. during 1977-78 1108. SHRI SUBHASH CHANDRA Accommodation for Government Em- BOSE ALLURI: rloyees eligible for allotment of Type SHRI HART SHANKAR n Accommodation MAHAL-^:

1107. SHRI DAYA RAM SHAKYA: Will the Minister ol AGRICUL­ Will the Minister of WORKS AND TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased housing and SUPPLY AND RE­ to refer to reply given to Unstarred HABILITATION be pleased to refer Question No. 2939 dated 7th August, ^0 Unstarred Question No. 3112 re­ '978 regarding allocation of Central plied on 7th August, 1978 regarding funds for rural link roads and state Accommodation for Government Em­ the amount actually utilised for con­ ployees where it was stated that there struction of rural link road during 1,647 Government employees whp 1977-78 and the progress made so far completed 20 years of service in regard to the construction of such and are eligible for Type II accom­ roads particularly in Andhra Pradesh? modation have not been provided ^vith Government accommodation and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ■'^tate: THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU (a) what are the number of such PRATAP SINGH): As the time ^nipioyees now upto 31st October, available to the States/Union Terri­ ]978: tories for construction of rural link 171 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 172.

roads during 1977-78 wBs very was also executed departmentally limited, it has been agreed in most of and if so, the nature thereof and the cases to allow them to complete whether material was also purchased the projects, taken up under the by the department a n d if so the na­ scheme, upto 31st March, 1979. The ture and value thereof and whether progress reports in regard to the tenders were invited by the depart­ amount actually utilized and physi­ ment for the supply of material; cal progress made so far in regard to construction of such roads from (b) whether such a huge expendi­ States/Union Territories are still ture was never incurred on these tem­ awaited. ples and historic monuments; and (c) if so, whether Government pro­ Establishment of Houses of Culture pose to enquire into the whole affair and if not the reasons therefor? 1109. SHRI SURENDRA BIKRAM: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- (a) what steps Government propose DER): (a) No structural repairs to take in respect of establishing were done through the agency of houses of culture in towns and vil­ contractors during the years 1975-76, lages; and 1976-77 and 1977-78. The expen­ diture indicated were incurred on spe­ (b) what will be structure of such cial structural repairs and annual houses of culture and how much ex­ maintenance and upkeep of monu­ penditure will be allowed on each ments, the works being executed house of culture? departmentally. The nature of works involved concreting, plastering, res­ THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, toration of structural members, water- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE tightening, etc. Materials required (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- for repairs, like stones, metal, lime, DER): (a) and (b). No such pro­ sand and other miscellaneous items, posal is, for the present, under the were purchased for different monu­ consideration of the Government. ments after observing the normal pur­ chase rules; the total costs of mate­ rial'; purchased are Rs. 68,373.75, Repairing Work at Dhar District Rs. 40,591.43 and Rs. 33,274.91 during the years 1975-76, 1976-77 and 1977-78 1110. SHRI HUKAM CHAND pectively KACHWIAI: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE (b) No, Sir. AND CULTURE be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred (c) Does not arise. Question No. 5305 on 3rd April, 1978 regai^ding maintenance of temples of Gupta period and state: ^ i?T«m wri

(a) the nature of repairs work done 1111. ^ VOTm : ^ ftWTT, Rinn viFmvr by each contractor with the amount of Rs. 1,94 869.39, Rs. 1,66,169.63 and 1978 ^ Rs. 91,703.06 during 1975-76, 1976-77 sr»?T S305 ^ and till March, 1977-78, respe.?tTveIy, in Dhar district itS Mrdhya Pradesh (^ ) 1975 - 76, 1 76-77 flVc a%id whether tenders were invited be­ 1977-78 1, 146. 40 fore awarding contract and if so, the Wlff, 4,029.25 ^ 1, 560. 40 value of tenders received with names ^ Tiftr ^ ^ fir# ^ of the parties and whether some work 173 Written Answers AG^AHA\AilA 6, 1300 (SAKA) WHttcn Answers 174

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Seminar re: Threat to Taj from (b) if not, which are the specific Envinmmentai Pollution sectors of this policy where perfor­ mance has not matche3 targets; 1114. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: WiU the Minister of WORKS AND (c) whether in some States there HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ have been major deviations from the HABILITATION be pleased to state: National policy with the result that (a) whether environmental society they have favoured the more powerful organised a seminar this week at among the agricultural interests; a^^d Agra regarding the threat to Taj Mahal due to pollution; (d) steps Government have taken (b) whether that seminar exprressed or are contemplated to rectify these concern about Taj; and deviations and to sp^ed up imple- mentation of land reforms? (c) if so, the action to be taken by Government to save Taj from the THE MINISTER. OF AGRICULTURE pollution to be created by Mathura refineries? AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) to (d). As is THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND well-known, State Governments are HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ entrusted with the implementation of HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER land reform measures. The Union BAKHT): (a) and (b). Yes. Sir. The Government reviews progress from Indian Environmental Society, a time to time and endeavours to evolve voluntary organisation, organised a common policy guidelines. Various State seminar at Agra on 23rd and 24th laws are broadly in harmony with October, 1978, on the effects of pollu­ the National Guidelines on land ceil­ tion on the Taj Mahal, in which some ings. In some States, tenancy laws do speakers expressed their concern not correspond to national norms and nbout the adverse effects of pollutants the matter is being pursued with the from the Mathura Refinery. State Grovernments concerned. The (c) In view of the apprehension Union Government has repeatedly raised in various quarters about the drawn the attention of State Govern­ possible adverse environmental impact ments to the need to improve perform, O f Mathura Refinery, the Government ance, especially in the matter of aqcui- of India appointed an Expert Com­ sition and distribution of ceiling-sur. mittee in July, 1974 to advise the Pro­ plus land. According to the latest in­ ject Authorities on the measures to be formation available with the Union taken for keeping the pollution effects Government, only about 15.76 iakh of the Refinery to the absolute mini­ Lcres have been distributed although mum. The Committee was also to the area declared surplus is reported advise the Government on the pollu­ to be nearly 44.71 lakh acres. State tion aspects of other ancillary and Governments have been urged to en- downstream industries. The report of ceavour to reduce the wide disparity this Committee was placed before both between the area declared surplus and the Houses of Parliament on the 14th the area distributed. August, 1978. Balanced Implementation of Land Research in Improvement of Quality Reforms of Foodgrain and Cash €rops 1115. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO; 1116. SHRI MANOR AN JAN BHAK- Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE TA: WiU the Minister of AGRICUL­ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to TURE a n d ir r ig a t io n be pleased state: to state: (a) whether Governmeftit are satis­ fied with the pace of implementations (a) whether any research has been of land reforms in the country; conducted regarding the quality of 177 Writtan Answers AviT^AIlAYAKA 6, 190C (SAKA) V/ritten Answers lyg foodgrain and other cash crops pro­ In cotton, varieties with better duced in the country with a view to yield and quality have been developed improve their quality keeping in view during 1968—74. The release of the international standards; and hybrid cotton “Hybrid-4” and “Vara- laxmi” with superior long staple and (b) if so, the facts thereof and kind the extra long staple strains “MCU-5”, of assistance Government propose to • Sujata” and ‘‘Suvin” constitute a render to the farmers to improve .MLViificant milestone in quality im­ their quality of their produce? provement of cotton. ‘Suvin' and ‘^j'ujata’ are capable of spinning upto 100—120 counts and are on par with THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE p:.\vptian cottons like Gaza-45 and AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT Alenoufi. The fibre from these long SINGH BARNALA): (a) and (b). staple varieties is quite suitable for Recent researches on a number of biending with man-made fibres, there­ foori crops including wheat, rice, by offering scope to the Indian jo war, bjjjra, barley, pulses, oil seeds Textile Industry for making use of and cotton have not only led to in­ these cottons for blended fabrics. crement In yield potential but also in Among oilseeds, it has been observed improvement of quality aspects. This that there is preferential demand in technology has been available to the the International market for bold farmers through the multiplication ^'.roundnut kernels for table purposes. and distribution of seeds of improved Recent research efforts have resulted varieties. in developing hand picks selected (HPS) groundnut varieties like M-13, TMV-10, TG-1, TG-18 and TG-19 hav- In Wh?at the recently developed ing extra bold seeds. varieties such as Sonalika, Arjun. Pratap and Janak posses good pro­ The release of sunflower varieties tein and chapathi making properties. like BSH-1, BSH-2 have resulted in Some of the varieties such as HD i '.crease in oil content in sunflower. 2122, HD 2204 and WL 711 etc. have the desired amber grain appearance In addition to research on the im­ and chapathi making quality besides provement of nutritive and consumer- good protein content. In barley, semi­ acceptance qualities work is also in dwarf hull-less varieties rich in protein progress for improving the storage have been developed. In maize properties of grains. Also, methods Opaque-2 composites such as Shakti of avoiding the production of my- and Rattan are rich in nutritive quali­ cotoxins in food are being developed. ty. CHS-5. CHS-6, CHS-7, CHS-8 new Whenever results of applied value bigh yielding and good quality hybrids are ready for being passed on to Jowar are now available. Bajra farmers, appropriate steps are taken BJ-104, B.K. 560 and B.D. 331 are to extend the results to farmers, such saperior in their grain quality charac- as the production and distribution of tcrstics. In rice, strains like CRHP-1, seeds. CRHP-8, CR 198-13 have been indeti- fied with high protein content. The recently developed high yielding varie­ Trawler Operation within 5 KM ties of rice like Jay anti and Ratna Coastal Area of Goa possess long and fine grains. Piisa-33 and Improved Sabarmati are strongly 1117. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: aromatic. Efforts are being made to Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE develop export quality rice combining AND IRRIGATION be pleased to the characterstics of Basmati and high state: yield. A number of such varieties like aET 3578 and lET 3579 have been (a) whether Government have re­ identified. ceived complaints that while the 179 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27. 1978 Written Answers i 8a

Government of Maharashtra, Karna­ THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE taka, Kerala, Tamil Nadu and Andhra AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT Pradesh have followed the Central SINGH BARNALA): (a) The schemes Government directive of banning on dry farming and soil conservation trawling in the five Km. costal zone, in the country are either development Government of Goa has iiot yet issued or research oriented. The main fea­ notification for immediate enforce­ tures of these schemes are as under: — ment of the directive; and I. Research Schemes (b) if so, the reaction oTGovern- The research schemes are as fol­ ment thereto? lows : — (i) All India Coordinated Research THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ Project for Dry land Agriculture,—It TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI is being implemented at 23 coordinated SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) and Research Centres located in typical (b). Government of Goa has issued agro-climatic regions of the country to an executive order dated 16-9-1978 as develop technology for improving and follows:— stabilising the crop production on dry- 1. The rampon operators includ- land/rainfed lands in India. ding the non-mechanised traditional (ii) Central Soil and Water Covser- fishing crafts shall operate freely innion Research & Training Institute; without any restriction. However, D>?hra Dun.—Operating with its six water upto five tathoms from the centres dealing with problems of con­ ^hore will be reserved exclusively servation of soils and water as a na­ for those operating the rampon nets tural resource. and non-mechanised traditional fishing crafts and no other types of II. Development Schemes vassels shall be allowed to fish within five fathoms. (i) Centrally Sponsored Scheme of Integrated Dryland and Agriculture 2. Mechanised fishing vessels shall Development.—This scheme is imple­ operate their fishing activities be­ mented in 24 projects in 12 States. yond five fathoms line from the The dryland technology as developed coast. on Dryland Research Centres of the Indian Council of Agricultural Re­ 3. Offshore and deep sea fishing search is tested at these projects and vessels, i.e. vessels with 25 Gross are recommended for popularisation tonnes and above shall operate be­ on large scale. A sum of Rs. 4.30 yond ten fathoms. crores was released to States as grants and subsidies and Rs. 2.26 crores as Dry Farminsr and Soil Conservation loan during Fourth Five Year Plan. The funds released by 1977-78 in the Fifth 1118. SHRI A. BALA PAJANORE: Plan are about Rs. 5.00 crores. Each Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE project covers a new area of 800 hec­ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: tares each year where apart from crop husbandry, soil and wafter manage­ (a) the main features of the ment, animal husbandry and grass-land schemes launched for promotion of and fodder development programmes, dry farming and soil conservation: including demonistrations and training^ and are taken up. Cii> State sector programme of soil (b) the results of the study and conservation for land development, progress made during the last three afforestation, engineerinif an

(iii) Crtfttrally Sponsored programme least by 50 per cent to 100 per cent of soil conservation in the catchment o\'er the traditional methods. of Jliver Valley Projects for treating watersheds and saturating with all (ii) During the last three years types of soil conservation measures in some of the salient research findings 260 watersheds in 31 River Valley Pro­ at the Soil Conservation Centres are jects in 20 States/Union Territories. given below I — (iv) Central sector programme of (a) in the lower Shivalik repre­ pilot project for protection of table sented by Chandigarh the run ofl' lands and stabilisation of ravinous from steep slope can be consider­ areas. ably reduced. Studies indicate that the rate of sediment was reduced (v) Central sector programme of from 80.5 tonnes per ha. to about pilot project for control of shifting cul­ 7.5 tonnes per hectare. tivation in the remote hill areas nf liorth-Eastern States and some parts • b;« Technology for utilising ■^uch of Andhra Pradesh and Orissa. areas for production of Bhabhar girass, which is an important indus­ (vi) State sector prorrammo of trial grass, has been developed. The shifting cuUivatit)n in North-Eastern data from Dehra Dun as well as Region. Chpndigarh indicate that the storing of run off water in the ponds during Dry Farming and soil conservation the rainy season can provide one or men.'^ures are integral part of many two supplemental irrigations which agricultural development programme. results in a yield increase of about These programmes also find import­ one tonne per hectare. The relative ant place in the components of increase is much m.ore in the year? Drought Prone Area Programme. of lower rainfall.

(b) Rearch The results achieved under various (i> Suitable varieties giving better developmental soil conservation yields have been identified. In some schemes for the last three years and areas, such as Bhubaneshwar and the current year may be summarised Ranchi, ragi has been found more as under: — stable than paddy. Achievements of Ipst three (ii) SuitaWe cropping patterns for Ye rs in ‘O O O hectrres. U292.65 different agro-climatic situations and Expenditure in three years inter-cropping; particularly with pul­ in lakh rupees 13079*69 ses; more productive and stable in dryland areas have been evolved. Target current yerr in ‘ O b O hectares. 854.744 (iii) Fertilisation and weeding have Outlay in lakhs rupees 620571 been found effective. Responses to suitable fertiliser doses have been established.

II. D^velovment jm ^ irN (i) Centrally Sponsored Scheme of Integrated Dryland Agricultural De­ 1119. : WT velopment has brought out that the tftr iiww wi wK 3^ ^ Jift ^ available technology can be extended ^ f«iT TTn : to larger areas. The results of de­ monstrations indicate that by adopt­ ( t ) >wt jppf sfli ^ ing the modren dry farming tech­ nology the yields can be increased at 183 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 184

(v) WT 1971 # ^ Supply of Gram, Barley & PqIms to 5TTT ^TN" ^ ^5 **ft, %ftX Defence Forces 1121. SHRI PRADYUMNA BAL: (^t) ?rf^ ^ wm 'Tf^nr iftr 5T^, m ^ ^ t ? SHRI SHANKERSINHJI VAGHELA: Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ finiWr iftr wwm ?iwt jfir iftr 3^1^^ TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased lo state: <«ftfiW!»fTTOf) : (^ ) ^ I (a) whether the Food Corporation (^) ?fh: (^) ^, I ^ T?: of India supplies gram, barley and % r^T CT!T?:5 ?T>r^-:!T IT>^T | pulses to the Defence forces; f r fJTT ^ ^ ^ m i ifRt ^rf^ ^tt 1 (b) if so, the quantity supplied by it to defence forces during the lact three years of each item; flTW>lO fiMHlf^'iit ffy fTTWTH UT *WT?nT (c) whether some quantity of these ^ WW3*T items supplied by F.C.I. had been rejected by Army Inspection Officers 1120. «ft fsnrf^r being sub-standard in quality; uftr IJTfm jr?! vVc (d) if so, the action taken against ^ +

(^) ^ 7j, TO ^ I; (f) the reasons for not taking any jcgal action against F.C.I.? (^) ^4^rrfT^ ^ ^ STPrftnr^ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rTRt^ ^TRT ^5Tn^^, MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND (^) ^TTVR ^ ^ ^rfMripT IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- TAP SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. ^'rf ?RT 5zm

fkufvi wtr irrvTR ?nn wVr »Rt Year Dlls Bariev Grams («ft fafi^T t o ) : (^) (^ ) : f ^ W w 5T5TR fnff % iTTim >975 36558 10654 405?? ^ W sp^ #. ?ni3TT TT, vfa^rrfnft qj^ '9/fi 374'8 7566 7439 ^rrf^t, ^rrf^ w> tqfeRr '977 31064 16796 5044 ^^TTT) ^ frlT ITT^ f I f%?ft ?F2T ®3^ ^ ?T^ m#TJT ^ m 1980 ^ 5TFfR ^ I I (c) Yes, Sir.

(^) ft ^^lf^ fT^ (d) The procedure of pre-inspection W ct $ TTm% ^ ^cTT Tffhsr ^ »r«rsr of stocks by RSD, Lucknow is followed. The stock found substandard are re­ ?T?ff f- I jected and not accepted for the Defence Forces. So the question of acceptance (^) I of substandard stocks does noi arise, 185 'Written Answers AGPAIIAYANA 6, 1900 (iAKA) Written Answers i 86

Consequently no action is called for from rains which are replaced when against F.C.I. necessary. (e) No puchase has been made (2) Nylon rope lashings on poly- from the trade during the period. thenes covers prevent blowing of! of covers due to high wind velocity, (f) No legal action is called for as storms etc. explained in (d). (3) Monofilament nets and cover- tops are aiso provided in major Spoilage of Wheat CAP complexes for additional pro­ 1122. SHRI P. M. SAYLED: tection against the vtgaries of weather. SHRI RAMACHANDARAN (4) Aeration of stocks is regular­ KADANNAPPALLI: ly done to check moisture conden­ *Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE sation, AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: vc) A total quantity of 2,40,364 (a) the total wheat so far stored in tonnes of wheat was affected by rains^ the Godowns managed by the F.C.I.; floods etc. during 1978-79 till October, 1978, out of which a quantity of (b) measures taken by Government 2,18,929 tonnes was affected in CAP to see that the wheat does not become storage. The salvaging of affected unfit for consumption as had happen­ stocks is in progress and the actual ed last year when 22,000 tonnes of quantity damaged or rendered unfit wheat stored at Gandhidham was ren­ for human consumption will be known dered unfit fot human consumption; when the salvaging of such stocks is and completed. (c) whether this year also large quantity of wheat was spoiled due to Paddy Rotting in Faridkot rains and floods? 1124. SHRI P. M. SAYEED:Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- (a) whether it is a fact that huge TAP SINGH):(a) As on 1st November, quantity of foodgrains particularly 1978, 7.7 million tonnes including 3.1 paddy worth several lakhs of rupees million tonnes in CAP (cover & Plinth) has been rotting in Government, storage. godowns for the last two years in (b) The Food Corporation of India many towns and particularly in stores foodgrains on scientific lines in Faridkot district due to negligence of their own and hired godowns. Techni­ the staff; cally trained staff are deployed and (b) if so, whether any enquiry has modem methods of pest control are been conducted in this regard; adopted for proper upkeep of the foodgrains. Pre-monsoon inspection is (c) the findings of the same; and carried out and repairs undertaken to (d) the action taken against officials the godowns. held responsible? The following additional steps are also taken to ensure safety of stocks THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE stored under CAP system of Storage:— MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE A"' IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- (1) The stocks are stored on TAP SINGH): (a) to (d). The informa­ wooden crates and >covered with tion is being collected and will be laid polythene covers to protect them on the Table of the Sabha. Written Answers l«7 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 188

•Coarse o t Studies at Higher Secon­ and horizontal mobility will be provid­ dary Stage ed for students of Vocationalised Spectrum. The Working Group on 1125. SHRl P. M. SAYBiED: Will the Vocationaliscition set up by the Minis­ Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL try has also re\'iowed th? programme WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased and ir;ade rccommcndations. The to state: recommendations of these Committees were considered at the Conference of (a) whether the Union Government the Education Ministers of the States have given its clearance to inlroduco and I'nion Territories held at New the new look, course of studies in the Delhi in July. 1978 and by the Confe­ Higher Secondary sta g e ; rence of the Boards of Secondary (b) if so, details of th e new schem c; Education in India at a Special Session heM in September, 1978. Both the (c) when this schemc is likely to Conferences accepted the recommen­ take effect; and dations made by the National Review (d) whether this scheme has been Committee and the Working Group drawn in terms of the national Review and resolved for implementation of Commiittee ^recommendations? these. Some States and Union Terri­ tories^ have already introduced the THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, Vocationised Spectrum while other would do so as soon as they reach at SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE the plus 2 stage of the new pattern. (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) to (d). The Government cf In so far as the Central Board of India had appoiiitc^i a National Reviev. Secondary Education is concerned it Committee under the Chairmanship of has since revised its scheme of studies Dr. Malcolm S. Adiseshiah, Vice- for higher secondary classes XI and Chancellor Madras University to re- XII in accordance with the recom­ review higher secondary curriculam mendations of the National Review with special reference to vocationali- Committee. The new scheme will sation. According to the recommen­ come into effect in class XI from the dations of this Committee the higher r.iadeni.j session 1979-80. secondary stage of the new pattern of educaltSon compriaea G«tieral Educa­ tion Spectrum and Vocationalised Spectrum. Under this system one lan^guage would be compulsory for r w srwifiiw both the spectrums. Socially Useful Productive Work has also been made 1126 jT^rnr srtf ffii Rmif compulsory for all general education ^ fPTT ft: : students and General Foundation Course for those taking vocationalised f ^ ^ iTjpTTTR ^ f w wtf3f ^ ^ Tprrt^r courlses. These subjects will have 15 per cent time allocation for each. The ^ i m m ^ jrinrr ^ cJectives for the general education course will be introduced with flexi­ (»3r) ft, ?Tft qr 7 ^ fTf- bility to suit local conditions. Voca­ ^ JRrtj vt tional arses will be selected after ft ? vocational surveys. keeping in view socio-economic needs of the area. The fftr inft («fy Rf? wrmwr) : semester pattern and credit system (y) ^ nf * will followed in the States where the universities hnve adopted it and narrrr v itW ♦ 463 others foUowing after sometime, 220 wjvit w facilities for apprenticeship, vertical 189 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, .’90o (SAKA) Written Answers i9o

(«) v T ^ i i v i ’T’nfevt 31S;t October, 1978 in various Startes Tt "ft ftTt? i'W 51,550 and Union Territories; and i?Tt *nf«Rr F^RcTT I (b) the target fixed for the distribu­ tion of land during the next two years? Distribution o< Sorpliu land to Harijans THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE 1127. SHRI SUBHASH CHANDRA AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT BOSE ALLURI: SINGH BARNALA): (a) A statement showing the available information is SHRI VASANT SATHE: enclosed. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (b) No target for distribution of land during the next two years has (a) the acreage of surplus land been fixed, but the States have been

Progres in distribution o f ceiling surplus land from1 -4-78 to $ 0-9-78 to SchduledCastes

State/Union Territory Area Num ber 0 (in acres* allott CCS

I Andhra Pradesh I.‘>,030 G.giii r* Assam . N.A. N.A.

3 nihar 8,128 7,696

4 G jjarat Nil Nil

5 Harya»a Nil NU C Himachal Pradcrsh . • • • • • Nil Nil

7 Jam m u 8i Kashmir. . Nil Nil

8 . Karnataka M9 39

9 M adhya Pradesh 4,944 2,246 TO Maharashtra . 2,338 843

I I . Orissa . 547 4B8 12 Punjab . Nil Nil

Haiasthan 436 N.A. 14.. Tamil Nadu N.A* N.A.

15. Tripura 5 I 16. U ttar Prad'^sh 8,719 8.986

n WcstBeniaral . N.A. N.A.

18 Dadra & Na

Bettiiiff up of Roral Hoorinr Corpora­ fmf tion and Rural Hutments Corporation

1128. SHRI SUBHASH CHANDRA 1130. WT TR ITTfll : WT iftT BOSE ALLURI : Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUP­ 30 1978 5f t PLY AND REHABILITATION be ^ ^ fflTT pleased to state: ^ ^ ^ ^ imrmr in?rT fWTrT^ t ? (a) whether Government propose to set up a Rural Housing Corpora^ ff^ finnf («ft tion and Rural Hutments Corporation; and wT^frmr) ; ^ 1977 ^ ^ ^ *T?nrcTT ^ frMTyr Mrf*fd+ vm m t ^ (b) if so, the details in this re- Srs\jf^ ^ TT^ im t ^ HT- gard? WTli ^ ^ tSTRTO ^ ft I TT^ ^ «TT0R TK THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 30 197 8 # TO % HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ ^ w sfWrf^ ^ w r HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR ^ fTT ^ ^ ITTT BAKHT): (a) No, Sir. nf t — (b) Does not arise. Prm w z^ ) Post Graduate Centre at Anantapur

1129. SHRI SUBHASH CHANDRA BOSE ALLU^II: Will the Minister of f«r^R 30,000 — EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE 9,000 — AND 7!ULTURE be pleased to st^te: 217 — 8,000 — (a) whether Government have re­ ceived any representation from the 7,000 — Andhra Pradesh Government to 35,000 — develop the Post Graduate Centre at crfiTtnT 35,000 30,000--- Anantapur as a University; and 500

(b) if so, action taken by Govern­ 2,000 — ment in the matter?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE wrrgr f h ^^^wft4uw^ 5RT v d r (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER-): (a) Yes, Sir. 1131. n m : w k (b) On the advice of the University ^ t>9[T ^ Grants Comrnission, the State Gov- emment was requested to formulate a (^) wr detailed proposal in the prescribed ^ ^ ^ ^ t form lor further examination by the ^ ^ ^'nnr tk Comnaission. The complete informa­ tion required is still awaited from the ^Id VTrTPT, ^nWT ^ ^'II^ State Government. ^ fcrr w *tt; ^ftr 193 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 3900 (SAKA) Written Answers 194

(m) JTft ft, fft fin ¥1^ ^ ed to a few selected areas in the count­ i SR>T M t ^ ^ ^ *?jftry and its main emphasis was on pro­ r cessing and marketing of milk and the provision of infrastructure in these I(I\t fwwit gi.'liin areas for enhancement of milk pro­ WK^m\) : (^) (?l). ^ duction in the long run. 5|T I ^ 'TT 5T^5^ ^ 'Sn^^ft I (c) Of the total disbursements Cansumption 0t milk and operation amounting to Rs. 75.10 crores up to Flood-I 30th September, 1978 out of funds generated under Operation Flool-I. 1132. SHRI NATHUNI RAM: i\s. 15.17 crores were disbursed for the programme aimed at increase in milk SHRI V AS ANT SATHE: production, including import of cows and buHs of exotic breed. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state : (d) The question of non-implementa­ tion of the action items relating to milk (a) whether per capita consumption production does not arise. A sum of of fluid milk has gone down from Rs. 15.17 crores was disbursed for 137 gm to 107 gm during “Operation implementation of programme for milk Flood-I*’ period; production. However, Government (b) if so, the reason thereof; have evaluated the implementation of Opera*;;’on Flood-I with a view to en­ (c) how much of the accrued mo­ suring the effective implementation of ney of “Operation Flood-F’ was spent Operation Flood-II. to increase milk production in the country, besides import of foreign Block chosen lor implementation of cows and bulls; and Intesrated Rural Development (d) whether Government have un­ 1133. SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: dertaken any objective assessment of SHRI VIJAY KUMAR N. the working of Operation Flood-I by PATIL: technical experts to identify the causes of non-implementation of ac­ Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ tion item directly related to milk TURE a n d IRRIGATION be pleased production with a view to remove mis­ to state: takes of management and organisa- (a) the names of Blocks chosen tion so aS to avoid them during Ope­ under the modified Integrated Rural ration Flood-II and details thereof? Development Programme in each State; THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI (b) the agency actually responsible SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) for its execution; and 3nd (b). The production of milk (c) whether all the States have in the country increased from 2L? given their consent to put the prog­ million tonnes in 1968-69 to 23.2 mil- ramme into effect? irillion tonnes in 1968-69 to 23.2 million tonnes in 1973-74. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN However, the per capita availabi­ THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE lity of 112 gms per day declined dur­ AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU ing the period to 109.6 gms. per day PRATAP SINGH): (a) An annexure on account of faster growth of popula­ indicating the names of blocks chosen tion than the increase of milk pro­ so far under the modified Integrated duction. It may, however, be mention­ Rural Development Programme by ed that Operation F7ood-I programme each state is enclosed. [Placed in waR initiated in July 1970, was confin- Library. See No. LT-2873/78]. 1111 L.S.—7. 195 Written Answers NOVEMBiai 27, 1978 Written Answers 196

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE 1134. «ft Tmrr^ : sptt fnwr, AND IRRIGATION (SHRI fnrwf ^Tq «) fiin-eTT 197s- (c) Yes, Sir. fr*rr sif^r^T’^r ^ ?r'4t *tt^ ^renll ^ f^frr if (d) The subject has been examined by the Government and it is felt that 19 7 8 ^ ?'?:rn»R fj irt 1 since the decontrol of sugar has been ^Tfq’ ^ ^ c Tp-nr in efTect only from August it \\X)uld ?nP ^ I be too early to take any measures efTecling the play of full competitive (^) ^ T^HTT forces. ^ ^RTffr f^rr qjzq ?Fn-T?r Trrrr 1 ^ ? rf ^ JFT^T ^ ^ JTurrfTqt cr^ WtET ^ SF^TR ^ I 1136. *srt wiiTfiT^^OTTOT : fm w>T Rrfrri irrr : Request from Sugar Mills Association to build buffer stock of sugar (^r) fin !T4?r !T5t Tt iftiRr ?TiTjfr

r^?WT| 4ft«i^ rw1f g wryit nwrm 4 9«tt ^ ?ft fv^TFT ^ 5rnr ^^11 STferaf IfT g5iS$H tft ftr^PT ‘^PfT irt«r ^ Tpft 11 37. «ft W»ITR t^ WtO TTCTT : TO fffil «ifK ftrwrf ?RTT^ ^ f^T ^ ftr : (^) ^ ?rr

(^ ) 4^1 ^ ^ ) (’T) ^ ^'^TTW t^T ^TT^, (^ ) ^tfrrr ^rr^, (^>r) ^wn fTf c^ fer-fer ^Fff TT W^TPTi 'i|i^*U ( ^ ) H =TTT srrm f^=nrf^ ^ ^ ^ p^rm t i m ^\x ffirr vrm r.m ^ wr^n: ^ tk TO sr^y Pp^ ^ t‘ ? ^ I, ^rk zrft 7J, -jfm ^ttt % ?

ffe? wVt f?WTf «=raft («fV 5T3fV?T iTHFn) : (^) ^ (^)- ^ ^ I ^hr wRj-^Tz^ tj: m ft ^fTjfV I fft («5tI HT^'hr PfT5 ^ T ^ r) : ^r ^?ftr ittht ^ | t^ qr, JT^TT t f ^ K ^ TT^fr ^qot; ;r^ Stocks of Kice with F.C.I. |T?r f^'f tWhttt ^ t I ?r?:q>^ J^nf?n wfm 5TTr 197 s ^ ^ ^ 113b. fillRI VASANT KUMAR ^ I ’Tfrq^mr srfr^ fsr# ^ 0m PANDIT: Will the Minister of AGRI­ 'TPT^ ^ «H IH V TfT^ ^ IT^ '3TT-^f^^ CULT UliE AND IRRIGATION be STT'J ^ fW lf TT 511111^ sfTT pleased to state: f^=mW & I ^ qfr^friTTr t t 25. 20 jm ^ ^:=T -w^R t (a) whether it is a fact that the TT 36, 4 22 ^ZTK I stocks of rice with Food Corporaticm of India hBve been rising and are now over 5 million tons; (^) (tt). it^STTRT ^ ^>'=TT I ^TPTfft^T V fT ^ ^5TR ITRT (b) what is the expected produc­ '’iiT h ^nwix ^ nqr f[ ettr ^ ^^irrr tion of rice in the new season and ^ ^ ^{Tfir f e n ^ c r I TFJZT ^RTH-T the need for distribution; ^ spt ;5fr5T ^ irf «ft #F ^ ^ w W «JT fjR ^ (c) in view of the surplus whether ^ % f^nrf^ ^ fSTT^ ft^TT W # the F.C.I. have decided to export rice ^ ^ T?T-5irn)-^-f^ TK «rr*T qfrrir and expects to fetch good profits in ^ ?r !?>q ^ ?TT^ 35fh: f% ^- foreign exchange; ^ ^TT^t ipTft ^ T f t I (d) whether the profits earned in (^) jft^T TTarro^TT f ^ , JrOTfaRT tr?T export of rice would channelise for ^ ’ft ^ m ^ ^ it ^ giving increase in the food subsidy w ^ 5 rf ^ 9,700 q^f ^ ^ for higher rice procurement prices; and I I w frxpc ^ ^ W «ff$T (e) whether a study group of the ^ m fm ^ % I Commerce Ministry has suggested change in the policy of banning aigri- . (^) (9 ) %t(K M culture export and allowing exports of ^ ^ t ^nfiw t I cereals? 199 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 200

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) if so, the main features of the THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULURE proposed plan? AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT (b) The sentimate of production of SINGH BARNALA): (a) and (b). Yes, rice in the new season i.e. 1978-79 will Sir. It is planned to bring an addi­ l)ecome available after the close of the tional area of at least 15 million fagricuitural year, i.e. some time hi hectares under the high-yielding July-August, 1979. The production of varieties of different crops during the rice for 1976-77 and 1977-78 however Five Year Plan (1978—83). The main (is placed at 41.9 and 52.7 million features of this programme are (i) tonnes res|>ectively. The requirement combining the adoption of high yield­ of rice for distribution through the ing seeas with proper agronomj': public distribution system depends on practices to exploit their inherent a variety of factors, such as produc­ potential; (ii) expanding the area tion, op*^n market availability of nee under high yielding varieties as (difference between prices of rice in rapidly as possible and (iii) developing the open market and the prices of rice more location specific varieties which released through the public distribu­ fcive adequate returns under different tion system, availability of subsidiary agro-climatic situation. food s^ulT, etc. In view of the large number of variables, it is difficult :o estimate precisely the rice needed for Report of Randhawa Committee on public distribution system during the Agricultural University marketing season 978-79. However, the country has already achieved self- 1140. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER GUP­ cufficiency in total foodgrains. TA: Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ (c) and (d). In view of the comfor­ TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: table stocks of rice with the Food Corporation of India, a limited quan­ (a) whether the Review Committee tity of rice has been exported/is being on Agricultural Universities headed by exported at the prevailing international Dr. M. S. Randhawa has since sub­ prices which may result in small mitted its report to the Government margin of profit. The amount of pro­ of India; fit earned in foreign exchange in the export of rice has no connection (b) if so, the recommendations made with the subsidy for higher-procure- by the Committee; and ment price of paddy/rice. (c) whether Government have since (e) The Report of the Task Force on considered the recommendations and if the Agricultural Export has not yet so. with what result? been received by the Government. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI sURJIT Land under high yielding: variety SINGH BARNALA); (a) The Review during VI Plan Committee on Agricultural Universities beaded by Dr. M. S. Randhawa subm'i- 1139. SHRI RAMACHANDRAN ted its Report to the President, Indian KADANNAPPALLI: WDl the Minister Council of Agricultural Research on of AGRICULTURE & IRRIGATION the 7th June, 1978. be pleased to state: (b) A copy of the summary of re­ (a) whether Union Government commendations of the Committee is have drawn up a plan to bring addi­ placed on the Table of the Sabha. tional land under the high yielding [Placed in Library. See No. LT- varieties during the Sixth Plan; and 2874/74]. a o i Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answen 2oi

(c) Th^ Report of the Committee was undertake an exercise at the univer iorwarded to all State Governments sity level and forward the material and Agricultural Universities for ex­ to the ICAR for use of the Deans’ amination and comments. The Minis­ Committee. ter for Agriculture and Irrigation also address the Chief Ministers of State 6. The recommendations regarding Governments to examine the important the governance of the universities recommendations of the Committee. Six including management structure, Universities had forwarded their writ­ financial support from State Govern­ ten comments. The recommendations ment and transfer of research res­ were also discussed at the conference ponsibilities and facilities may be of Vice-Chancellors of Agricultural discussed by each university with Universities held on 16th & 17th Octo­ the concerned State Government. A ber, 1978. Representatives of all the report on this niay be sent to the 21 Agricultural Univeisities participat­ ICAR to enable to discuss the un­ ed in the discussion. The Conference resolved issues with the concerned arrived at the following consensus: — State Government. 1. There was a general consensus 7. Each yniversity may examine that the recommendations of the the question of fixing an overall Review Committee were by and large cadre strength discipline-wise taking acceptable subject to modifications into account its existing and propos^ in certain areas to suit local condi­ ed activities. Provision should be tions. made for deputation and leave re­ 2. The recommendations which serve in the proposed cadre strength. do not involve any outside approval 8. Quinquennial evaluation of the OT consultation and which could be performance of each agricultural implemented by the Universities university and monitoring of pro­ themselves, may be taken up by gress should be done at the initiative the concerned universities for of the Board of Management con­ speedy implementation. Action on cerned and ICAR experts may be these should preferably be completed associated with it. The detaile^^ by the end of this year and a detail­ guidelines prepared by the ICAR for ed report in respect of action taken evaluation of the working of the on each recommendation may be sent ICAR Institutes may be sent to the to ICAR. While implementing these Universities for guidance in this recommendations, the spirit, rather regard. than the letter of the recommenda­ tions, should be kept in view. 9. The Universities should take the 3. The progress regarding the lead and initiative in establishing implementation of the recommenda­ close linkages with the various tions may be reviewed by the con­ development departments in order to ference of the Vice-Chancellors in ensure speedy transfer of technology. each of its fortlicoming meetings. For this purpose they may like to organise periodically one day semi­ 4. In so far as ICAR was con­ nars for senior officers of the Gov­ cerned it may reorient its pattern of ernment and the University. financial assistance in the light of the recommendations of the Com­ 10. Each University should prepare mittee wherever this has not already a research and education profile. been done. This should conform to the overall 5. The ICAR may constitute a development profile of the State Deans’ Committee for revision of wherever such a profile is available. curricula and courses by disciplines Normally each development project -r-Ajgrlqilture, A n i^ l Sciences, shouW have provUion for a research Home Science, Agricultural, ^ g in e - and training comiionent which should ering, etc. Each university may go to the AgricUlttiral University. 2Q3l ,. Written Answer^ , NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 204

Similarly a manpower developmental Memorial Hall, Calcutta is to provide^ profile should also be prepared to visual glimpses into the main events strengthen educational and training and currents of India’s history and cul­ programmes in areas where there ture of the period 1700-1900 as a whole. are critical gaps. This would also As a part of its re-orientation plan, it provide a basis for planning in ad­ is proposed to provide exhibits hon­ vance programmes of training in ouring illustrious Indian leaders in the other countries. context of their role in the nation’s life. 11. The question of decentralisation of powers and simplification of ad­ ministrative procedures in the uni­ Investigation into Aifairs of Jawahar- lal Nehru rnlversity versities should be taken up on a priority basis. 1142. PROF. SAMAR GUHA: Will 12. The implementation of recom­ the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL mendation with regard to the main­ WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas­ tenance of high academic standard ed to state: was related to professional ethics on (a) whether it is a fact that the in- the part of the faculty. Each un i­ vei-Uigation about the affairs of Jawa- verity should develop appropriate harlal Nehru University made by the guidelines in this regard. Particular Government hav 3 been completed and effort should be made to envolve the report submitted to the Govern­ senior faculty members in teaching ment; and the foundation courses particularly to under-graduates. (b) if so, facts about the findings of such investigation and steps taken by the Government as remedial measures SelUng up of museum in Victoria for different problems facing the Uni­ Memorial Hall, Calcutta versity? 1141. SHRI SHY AM SUNDER GUPTA: THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- MALIK: DER): (a) and (b). The preliminary SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: enquiry conducted by the Prime Minis­ Will the Minister of EDUCATION, ter into complaints against the Jawa- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE harlal Nehru University authorities has been completech The enquiry relates be pleased to state: to allegations about irregularities in the (a) whether there is any proposal matter of admissions, appointment of under consideration of the Government teachers, termination of services of to set up a museum in the Victoria employees and arrest of students etc. Memorial Hall, Calcutta for preserva­ Steps are being taken to initiate action tion of letters, writings and photo­ on the various recommendations/sug­ graphs of martyrs of the National gestions made in the Report in consul­ liberation movements from the first tation with the authorities concerned, Independence struggle of 1857 upto- date; and ^ iTOhi finnnvni (b) if not, the reasons thereof? 1143* ^ TR : fin fiiwiT, wnn THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE f% : CPR. PRATAP CttANDRA CHUN- (y ) finTT VT Diat): (a) and (b). Under its new t ^ ^ ^ tnwr WW fOle» «i n period museum^*^ Victoria t o r ♦ f ; ao 5 W ritten Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 206

(^) ^ ^ TK ^ ^ THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION. fTW?!r SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- (n) 3Tft ft, ^ finrrm DER): (a) The existing orders of the ^ w^J aprPT^ w i ^ 1 Central Government provide for 3 per cent reservation in groups ‘C’ and *D* posts in the Central Government and fiwn, inmr wur w rto in comparable posts in Centrally cont­ TTW PHJrt ( TVTO WTWJJVy) : rolled public sector undertakings. ( ^ (^ ) f’W^, ^TVRrt^ vdTri^ ^ !7T7.T 1 ft^rTFHT (b) 1 per cent vacancies each have ^ ^«TN?n qT vn: q 5 ^ been reserved for the blind, for the 5TF^‘f f^^T jHTT | I J^f'T ^TTT deaf (which includes the deaf and f^ F R ^ 5Tf=T dumb) and the orthopaedically handi­ ^ f , ^^TFT ^q^Pry capped. They constitute roughly 3 ?«?prf qr srfi=T erg r^r i ^nr per cent of the population. «ft?TH ^ ^1 ffrf^ t I th ff^RTzr ^ ^', v^T?n^Trnfr.T ^;?STJT TOTT * (c) Yes, Sir. The Government is ^TT^TfTq'f ^?T VA'TP^] ^ JCTT^Tn: trying to collect information regard­ ^r sir^f^w =fr TimT t 1 ing the actual implementation of the I ?i'T^ 71FT^ ’TJ^vto ?f>['i ^ I reservation orders. ^ %ri]^ fqi:T^:=T^ hvt f'HTq^iT % ^ 5rTftnrn'»j &ttt ^Fcrr^r q r (d) No Sir. ?Fir % msq JT’TOTT^'f ^ mETR qT f%^TT I

114 5. ^ 0 w rwwn, Reservation of Jobs for Haadicapped ^ 9cTR ^ frqi : 1144. d r . VASANT KUMAR PAT^- DIT: WiTl the Minister of EDUCA­ (^) ^ :TR5 i TION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUL­ w. ^rr aqr h qrtft TURE be pleased to state: {m) St, m rir f:r ^ ?. ? (a) the present quota reserved for jobs for handicapDCd people in various ftXCT, VFTm Httl H Union/Stnte, DV 'lic.- sector and private (sftnrO ; (^) sector undertakings; wk (ja) 5nt ii' ^ranr f ?;i| i I fi'flrfT ?rfuF^W3i ^7 w TTsff (b) the criteria for making the % f5TT afetiHr srfa^inr, i901 above reservations between (i) Physi­ ^ ?T5flfd5t # 5tK ^ p p n 3tT T 5I cally handicaperl, (ii) Blind, (iii) Deaf, (iv) Mule and (v) other cate­ gories of handicapped; Lift Irrigation Potential in Country (c) whether several complaints have been received that implementation of 1146. DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI: Government policy is not being V/jll the Minister of AGRICULTURE followed strictly in various units in AND IRRIGATION be pleased to particular in Government at State Slate; and Union, Public Sector and Under­ Ca) the Lift Irrigation Potential in taking; and the country, State-wise, and how much of the potential is actually utilised in (d) whether Government are going different States; and to increase the quota for reservation ^ the blind and physically handicap­ (b> impact of power cut in ttie year ped fppoi 8 per cent to 7.6 per cent? l»7»-7? and 1977-787 207 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written AniUfer9 io 8 THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE and West Bengal during 1976-77. Dur­ AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJXT ing 1977-78 power cuts/ restrictions on SINGH BARNALA): (a) Statewise rural feeders were imposed in the figures of estimated ultimate potential States of Harayana (May 1977 to of lift irrigation from ground water December 1977). Punjab (May 77 to and potential actually created are November 1977), Uttar Pradesh (Ap­ given in Statement-I. Statewise figures ril 77 to June 1977 and December 77 of estimated ultimate potential from to March 1978), J&K. (January 1978 to surface water schemes (including flow March 1978), Rajasthan (June 77, July and lift schemes) in major, medium 1977 and September 1977), Madhya and minor irrigation sector and poten­ Pradesh (April 77 to March, 1978), tial actually created are given in State- West Bengal (April 77 to March 1978) ment-II. Separate figures of flow and and Maharashtra (April 1977). Such lift irrigation schemes under surface power cuts can contribute to lower water irrigation are not available. utilisation of the available irrigation potential. Quantitative assessment of (b) Power cuts/restrictions for agri­ the under-utilisation of lift irrigation culture/(irrigation were in force in the schemes solely due to power cuts is States of Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra not possible.

Statement I

Orounc water (Lift )

(in tliojsjinH hectare^)

S. N o. Name of the State Ultimate Potential potencial / created rill the end of March, 1978 2 3 4

T. Andhra Pradesh 2200 950 2. Assam 700 30 3. Bihar • • 4000 1300 4. Gujarat . 1500 1260 5. Haryana 1400 II 50 6. Himachal Pradesh • • • 50 6 5 7 Jammu & Kashmir. • • • 150 4 8. Karnataka • 1200 375 9. Kerala . . 300 10 10. Madhya Pradesh •. • 3000 900 11. Maharaihtra. . • . 2000 975

12. Mantpur . . NE NE

13. \ieghdaya • • . NE Nit

i±. Nagaland • NE NE

1^. Oriifea . 1300 MO a 09 ^^rmm Aniwirs AGRAkAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) ^Htieh An«toer» 210

I 2 3 4

16. Punjab . . 3300 2790

>7- Rajasthan •• 2000 1450 18. Sikkim . . NE

19. Tamil Nadu . •• 1500 1030

20. Tripura •• 15 6 21. Uttar Pradesh . 12000 7000 ^2. West Bengal 2500 400 T otal States 39315 i975^'»-5 UNION TERRITORIES • . 120 43-0

ALL INDIA •• 39435 19799-5

or say : ‘ 40000 ^9800*0

N. E. : Not estimated.

XorE : Fii?arcs f?ivrrn in this statement have been estimated on the basis of available information and are provisional. These indicate the net irrigation potential created after allowing for slippage on account of depreciation due to ground water structures going out of use.

Statement— II Surface watei {Flow & Lift)

(in thousand hectares)

Major & Medium Irru Minor Irrigation• gation S. No. Name of State Ultimate Potential Ultimate Potential potential cn^ated up potential created to the end upto the of March, end of 1978 March, >978

I 2 3 4^ 5 6

1. Andhra Pradesh • 6480 2803 2000 790

a. Assam , 970 76 1000 320

3- Bihar • 9229 2301 1900 900 4 - Gujarat • 2150 958 250 80 1708 5- Hafyana « 2440 50 12

6. Himachal Pradesh . • • N.A. •« «50 78^5

7. Jammu & Kashmir • • rso 99 400 306 211 WTittea Ai^wers UOVEMBEB 27, 1978 Written Answers 2 iz

1 2 3 4 5 6

8. Karnataka . 2000 1004 900 ^50

9- Kerala . • 1000 453 800 275

10. Madhya Pradesh > . • 3650 i 3^^3 12C0 450

II. Maharashtra . 4100 : i 44 I£00 480

I2m Manipur . • N.A. •• 100 20

*3- Meghalaya N.A. •• 100 12

14. Nag:.land • N.A. 80 35 •

15* Orissa . 3600 1326 Coo 340

16. Punjab . • 2480 2254 50 28

17 - Rajasthan • • 3150 1365 400 310

18. Sikkim .... • •• •• CO 10

19. Tamil N*^du . • 1610 117G 900 790

20. Tripura . N.A. 1:6

21. Uttar Pradesh • IJ 200 559^ 1 cco

32. West Bengal .... 2310 1406 1300 C,00

TOTAL STATES . • 56519 2498B 15000 7462-5

UNION TERRITORIES . • N.A. 10 200 42.0

A LL INDIA • 56519 24998 15200 7 5 0 4 -5

or say . . . 56519 25000 15000 7500.0

N.A. Not Available.

♦Figures givcri 'n iLisM^Kncnt h^^e Itcn fji'n t'cd cn 0 c lisif cf evti^jllc irfcmtiicn and arc prov’sicnal. 71-efe irdicale the ret irijftt’cn rcKrnV? cicMtd fftcr aViw'rp fcr sJjf![e CD acccuiJt of dtprcciatirn due to surfccc water stitcivirs lilc tfil?, ctc bcccniirg dtielict die to tiltation, brearbiiig, c\c. 213 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 214

SmufgUng out of Treasures frpm (b> if so, nature of disparity point­ Asiatic Society, Calcutta ed out; and

1147. DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI: (c) reaction of the Government of SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH India thereto? MAUK: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN WiU the Minister of EDUCATION. THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRl BHANU be pleased to state: PRATAP SINGH): (a) and (b). The Chief Minister of Kerala had written (a) whether Government’s attention to the Central Government in July has been drawn to the news item pub** last pointing out that while there lished in the Blitz dated the 23rd Sep­ was a subsidy of Rs. 23.39 per quintal tember, 1978 wherein it has been stat­ on wheat and Rs. 13.24 on coarse ed that Treasure Thieves stalk Cal­ grains, the subsidy on rice was only cutta and the evidence reveals that 4 paise per quintal. He suggested that International Art thieves are in CaK the available amount of food subsidy cutta to pilfer and smuggle out inva^u^ should be applied in an equitable able art and literary treasures from manner on wheat rice ^nd coarse Asiatic Society, Calcutta; and grains.

(b) if so, whether any action has* (c) Taking into consideration the since been taken by Government and recommendations of the Agricultural if so, with what result? Prices Commission and on the basis of discussions held with the Chief Minis­ ters/Food Ministers of State Govern­ t h e MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ments on the price and procurement (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- policy of kharif cereals in the market­ DER): (a) Yes, Sir. ing year 1978-79, the Government have fixed the support price of coarse paddy at Rs. 85 per quintal against Rs. 77 (b) This has been brought to the per quintal in the last marketing sea­ notice of the State Government and son. The issue price of rice for public customs authorities and they have been distribuLion system has, however, been advised to take necessary preventive maintained at last years level. As a measures. The management of the result of this the subsidy on rice is Asiatic Society, Calcutta has also been now about Rs. 13 per quintal. advised to exercise utmost vigilance.

Demolition in Tughlakabad, Delhi Complaint fr*om Kerala re. Disparity 1149. SHRI SAUGATA ROY: Will in Food Subsidy the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ ING a n d SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ 1148. DR. SAiROJINI MAHISHI: TATION be pleased to state: SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: (a) whether there has been demoli­ Will the Minister of AGRICUL. tions recently in Tughlakabad near TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased Delhi; to state: (b) if so, what were the reasons for (a) whether Central Government demolitions; and ^ave since received any complffint (c) whether Government are think­ the State Government o£ Kerala ing of evolving a uniform policy on ^Sardix^ disparity in food subsidy; imauthorised colonies in New Delhi? 215 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 2l 6

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Central aid for Minor andi M aJ^ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ Xrris^ation Schemes to Stales HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. 1151. SHRI D. AMAT: Will the Mini­ (b) The reasons were that unautho­ ster of AGRICULTURE AND IRRI­ rised structures had been recently con­ structed by some people on Govern­ GATION be pleased to state: ment land and other unauthorised con­ structions had also come up recently without proper sanction. (a) the amount of assistance the Union Government have given to (c) It had been decided by an order States for minor and major irriga­ dated 16th February, 1977 that un­ tion schemes during last three years^ authorised colonies, which had come up State-wise break-up thereul‘; and in Delhi till then would be regularised subject to certain terms and conditions. It has since been decided that residen­ (b^ the amount of assistance de­ tial structures which were put upto :^iOth June, 1977 will also be regularised. manded by States during the current year and amount sanctioned State« wise? Scholarship to S.C. and S.T. for Higher Studies

1150. SHRI D. AMAT: THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE SHRI OM PRAKASH TYAGI: AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Irrigation Will the Minister of EDUCATION, being a State subject, the irrigation SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: schemes are planned, financed and implemented under State develop­ (a) the number of students granted mental plans. Central financial assis­ scholarship for higher study and sent tance is given to the States in the abroad during the last 3 years; and form of block loans and grants and is (b) how many of them are Sche­ not related to any individual sector of duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes development or project. amongst them?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Government of India have, however, MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL made available advance Plan assis­ WELFARE AND CULTURE (SHRL MATl RENUKA DEVI BARA- tance to certain major, medium and KATAKI): (a) Under the Scheme of minor irrigation schemes during the Sthotosihips administered by the last three years. State-wise details are Ministry of Education and the ^Dnis- try of Home Affairs, 867 students given in Statement I. were granted scholarships for higher study and sent abroad during the last (b) The amount of Central assistance years. demanded by the States during the current year is given in Statement—II. (b) Out of these, 21 belonged to ► Scfeduife<^ Castes and 5 belonged to No decision has yet been taken on thif Scheduled Tribes. matter. 217 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 218

Statement—I

Rs. in Crorcs.

Advancc Plan Assistance

1975-76 1976-77 1977-78

I. Andhra Pradesh > 5*00 t>-75 4*00

2. Bihar ♦ • • 5*00 3*00 7* 20

3- Gujarat . • 7*30 3‘ QO i8* 25

4- Haryana 5*00 6* 50 6‘ 00

5- Himachal Pradesh . • • •• 0* 50

6. Jammu & Kashmir. • 0-75 ••

7 - Karnataka • 2- 15 3-55 n* 14 8. Kerala . •• 2- ID 2- 50 6* 00

9- Madhya Prade^sh • • • 1*75 13-00

10. Maharashtra ' . • • 5-50 3-85 22*75

11. Orissa . •• • 1*00 2*00 6* GO

12. Punjab . • •• 1-50 800

>3- Rajasthan 6*00 3-ck) 5' 00

14. Tamil Nadu . • ••

>5- Uttar Pradesh • • 15*00 8 * GO 1-03

16. West Bengal •• 1 .00 0.50 5-50

Statement II Cold storage Plants for Marine Pro­ ducts Rs. in Crores Central Assist­ 1152. SHRI D. AMAT: Will the ance demanded Minister of AGRICULTURE AND SI. Name of State by the State IRRIGATION be pleased to state: for the year 1978'79- (a) the number of cold storage I. Andhra Pradesh 8 .5 . plants for marine products set up by the Union Government so far; and 2. Bihar 15.00 3. Gujarat 30* 13 (b) steps the Government propose to 4 Haryana ID' 00 take to increase the number of such 5 K arnataka i 7‘^5 cold storage? 6. Kerala 6.50 7. Madhya Pradesh 12 .00 THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE 8 . Maharashtra 47.16 AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT M anipur o*6o SINGH BARNALA): (a) and (b). Two 9 - frozen storage for marine products in IQ. Orissa 5 *00 Cochin and Calcutta are under con­ 11. Punjab 8.00 struction. The Government have iden­ 12. West Bengal 6.00 tified sites for frozen storages at :2I9 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 220

Paradeep, VisHkhapatnam and Madras. Library. See No. LT-2875/78] none of It was, however, decided to defer the these visits w^as as such connected proposals for creation of frozen storage with the work of the Commission. facilities at these major ports pending assessment of the impact of the storages at Cochin and Calcutta. 115 4. ^ ftnn, Visit of Ag^ricultural Prices Commis­ ?TRT3T ^ ^ frqr sion to Foreign Countries : (^) wm 1153. SHRI D. AM AT: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND ^ SPT ^ ^ ^ t ’rfVr ^ ^ IRRIGATION be pleased to state: ^ f ^ ^ t rT^ ^ ; (a) what is the purpose for which the Agricultural Priccs Commission (^) ^ i was set up and when it was set up; f: ;

(b> what is the annual expenditure (n) ^ on the Comnussion during the last ^nr ^ •fl'% three years; and % inr TJ •4't | qqr ^

(o') whether the Chairman mem­ (^) bers of the Commission visited anv 3nw fsFT^ ^ ^ foreign country during the r.bove pe­ m-m ? riod and if so, the details of these visits givin.^ the dates of s u ‘h visits, purpose and expenditure? ?Tf|r?k (^ 0 STfTTTT ir-j) ; ( t; {^). Tfy^4V ttrt ii ?5T5ffl T T' Tpfr ^ ^ THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE n fJ t I and IRRIGATIOX (SHRI SURJIT ^7. i ^ m'4-7TT'4 SINGH BARMALA): (a;. The A^r:ci:L f^TTiiq T-] T n p ^ i tiiral Prices Co;;‘mi's:on v/as set up in fV.^ Vt, f ir ■ ^ ^ January, 19G5; the broad purpose for f?^rt qfr w*jjf :sn which the Commission was set up ar.d I I r^T ^ qqpT-^r f'Tn npft Ihe ternis of reie: :r; ’l- c.>i:taine': ^ ffTirt^ ?TRm in the Government ol India Resolution ^ ^IT q rr 7 3 TTTT 'TT^.^ % f^^rr dated 8-1*1965 and 2G-o-l!)70 (copics 5rr?TTr Tprfr ^ f^rr s, 51,400 enclosed at Annexuure I) (Placed in ^;r :t ■•< ^ ^ 1 ^ Library. See No. LT-22/78]. r I

(b) The total annual expenditure in­ (^) “4Sir ^ ^ curred by the Commission during the ?T fIV ? I fn rr W r5^ last three financial years is as under:— 1975 76 Rs. 7.87.000/- TT?:^ ==TfT qrqr qrq ^ I f^^iTT FfTfETHfrnjr, ^ t t ^> 1976-77 Rs. 9,81,000/- i{ TnrK (rn^rg) ^ 1977-78 Ps. 7,06,000/- rr f-TRTTT i ftnr ?ft ^ I WT iRTTt ^ ^‘Tf f^ fim (c) Dr. Dharm Narain, former TTF?rr % ? tV t t h r xftK ^ m x t Chairman and Shri Ram Saran, former ?TO-*nTr, ^ f^rt^ ipr Member Secretary visited foreign ^ ^ 1 ^ ’jTR'pRfr snrnr ^ countries on a few occasions during ^ ^ I this period particulars of which are iftPpft ir f ^ TO ^ given at Annexure II; [Placed in «ftr ^ *rP^-^nn 21 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 222

& ^ ^ irr f 1 of the Patil Review Committee on tt ^ ^ Tpft sr^isr Education; ^ 11 (b) if so, whether Government {^) v/t have examined the recommendations of the Committee; ^ q-crr-sr^gr ^Tfrrr ^ T |t I I ^r-TT'JT fr T7=5TPT ^ ^ (c) how many have been imple­ mented this year; and (d) how many v/ill be implement­ ed next year? ^t-i

1155. ^ ^^ifhTRTT-JT ^TrtTV : ^^Tf ffr v^r^ taking steps for implementation. So far Central Board of Socoi^.lary Edu­ fT^(;^T :T irr | 1 Tranr^rr cation is concerned, the deletions sug­ iit 5cftj:r?=r t# q f-TT^^Tr ’Tcrq' ^^ffrr gested by the Committee were made f*T'4-T ^T^r I ffT Tfj’T ?r^r f T^Triff ^rrf? elfeclive immedialcl.v for tho e-^ami- nation of the Central Board of Secon­ • f Tt TiTnf 5TfTF7TU ^ 7'=TT flTTir dary Education held in March, 1978. ^ 11 The number of subjects for class X Examination have been reduced for Patil Review Committee on 1979 examination by dropping Econo­ Education mics and Commerce from the core n56. SHRI A. R, BADRINARAYAN: courses. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA- As far as the changes in the courses SHEKHARA MURTHY: and scheme of studies are concerned the Central Board of Secondary Edu­ Will the Minister of EDUCATION, cation has decided to implement these i SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE changes from the next academic ses­ pleased to state: sion of Class IX. The new courses are being prepared by the Board in con­ (a) whether Education Ministry formity with the recommendations have received the recommendations made by the Patil Review Committee. 223 Written Answers NOVEMBEB ?7, 1978 Written Answers 224

^cbeyne for deyotinc school hours for (c) The Socially Useful Productive socially productive work Work will be made effective for the admissions in class IX in 1979. 1257. SHRI A. R. BADRINARAYAN; SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHE- Amount ^ n t on accommodation KHARA MURTHY: occupied by ex-P.M. Will the Minister of EDUCATION, 1158. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE Will the Minister of WORKS AND be pleased to state: HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: (a) whether Central Board of Se­ condary Education has approved a (a) how much money has been, scheme under which l/5th of school spent on repairs/renovations/altera­ hours will be devoted to socially use­ tions, furnishings etc., for the present ful productive work; accommodation that has been occu­ pied by the erstwhile Prime Minister, (b) if so, what are the main featu­ Shrimati Indira Gandhi, at 12 Willing- res of the proposed scheme; and don Crescent, New Delhi; (c) when is the scheme likely to (b) whether it is a fact that a lot be implemented? of construction has been erected within the compound, and if so, whe­ THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, ther sanctions were obtained for the SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE same; and (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) In the Scheme of studies (c) if so, who has paid the money for classes IX and X of the Central and the cost of construction if paid Board of Secondary Education, eight by the Government? periods out of a total of roughly 45 periods available in a week in the THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND schools have been suggested for the HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ Socially Useful Productive Work. HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER (b) Socially Useful Productive Work BAKHT): (a) In addition to day-to- has been made an integral part of day maintenance done by work- school education and it has been given charged staff, a sum of Rs. 2317.00 the status of a compulsory subject. As has been spent on white-washing, such, every student will have to involve painting, colour-washing and purchase himself in activities related to Socially of electrical fittings etc. Useful Productive Work. Socially (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. the structure Useful Productive Work may be des­ is unauthorised for which Government cribed as purposive, meaningful, has not paid. manual work resulting in either goods or services which are useful to the society. A workshop to develop guide­ Central assistance to West Beng^at lines for the use of teachers has been Covenunent for construction of low organised by Central Board of Secon­ cost Houses in Flood affected Areas dary Education. These guidelines are 1159. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: being processed. Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ In order to be eligible for promotion HABILITATION be pleased to state: to the next class or to earn the certi­ ficate of the Board, pass in Socially (a) whether the Government of Useful Productive Work has been made West Bengal hag urged upon his Mi­ compulsory. nistry to give financial, technical 22^ WHtten Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written A nsw en 226 and other assistances for constructing recommendations of Central Teams/ low-cost houses in the flood affected High Level Committee, advance plan areas of the State; assistance to the States affected by rloods for housing subsidy generally (b) if so, the details of the assis­ to the extent of Rs. 200 per house/hut tances asked for by the West Bengal damaged/destroyed. Rs. 18 crores Government; and have been provided to West Bengal as advance plan assistance. (c) what action if any, has been or is being taken on the West Bengal Government’s representation? Flood Control Schemes for West Bengal

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 1160. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDER AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: BAKHT): (a) to (c). The State Gov­ ernment of West Bengal propose to (a) whether the Government has construct small pucca tenements in formulated any long term fiood-coQ- ^reas which are repeatedly affected by trol schemes for West Bengal; floods. For the present, they propose to under-take a programme of const­ (b) if so, what are the details ruction of one lakh such tenements. thereof including cost of each of the Each tenement will have a total area schemes so formulated; and of about 190 sq. ft. with a brick wall of 5” thickness and asbestos roofing (c) when the work for those sche­ and would cost about Rs. 5000 exclud­ mes is expected to be started? ing the cost of land. Land will be provided by the State Government. The total cost of this project would THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE :o:-ne to Rs. 50 crores and the State AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT Government propose to finance the SINGH BARNALA): (a) to (c). The project through a loan from Housing Government of Bengal have prepared and Urban Development Corporation. an action plan for flood control and The State Government have requested drainage works which could be imple­ that the repayment period may be in­ mented in the next 7 years. Priority creased from 10 years to 20 years com­ I scheme under this plan, with an mencing 5 years after the drawal of estimated total cost of Rs. 200 crores, loan covers the works for Damodar, Rup- narayan, Ajoy, Haldi, Khari-Gangur- 2. The Housing and Urban Develop­ Ghea, Mahanda, Ganga, Tidal Rivers ment Corporation have not agreed to of South Bengal, Rasulpur, Mayurak- mcrease the repayment period. How­ shi, Jalangi and Bagmari Pagla, and ever, HUDCO have decided to increase the break-up is as under— the quantum of loan assistance from Rs. in crores 50 per cent to 75 per cent. Engineering works 171.6 3. In addition to this, the West Bengal Government have also request­ Soil conservation 12.00 ed that the Central Government should Afforestation 16.4 agree to give a subsidy to them equivalent to the amount that will In addition, priority II scheme cover­ have to be paid to HUDCO as interest ing mainly engineering works esti­ on loan. In this connection, it is mated at Rs. 75 crores is also proposed. pointed out that the Central Govern- This will be substantially covered in ment has alloeatM, on the basis of the the medium-term plan for 1978— 83. 3131 LS— 8 227 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 228

A Draft Master Plan for the Torsa ^ r r nrftnfi i Basin estimated to cost Rs. 48.41 crores v ^ rv r, mfi has also been prepared by the Gk)vern- rfk irfq H’T37T ^ # i t inent of West Bengal. The broad ^ ^ 15nr^ break-up of these is as under:— ^ fftr frf^ ^ Wnwr % 1974 ^ ^fVrrr iftr ^ Pt^^t Rs. in w> ^ ^ ^ *Tr<41'Ji*n croics ^ I tnrciTB^'f ^ rft?r * ^rw«t ^ sr%vr, Construction of embankments 2-76 ^vtm, TnrWR, cTfTTWiTTV, ^3TR 51%^ ^ITT ^Nrm q STRT^ ^ f I ^r v r Rivcrtraining and nati-erosicn ^ ^ ?ftTT»T ^ VrafiVTH works .... 7*35 «R 10,00,000 ^ TTftr ^ ^ ^ 11 ^ m*h\x ^ ^ ^ Drainage . 0-8 ? 10,00,000 qfrsiTlT ^''TTsfViT Afforestation 2*5 ^frzrhnrr'’ *Tfr- jftlRT I I ^ qfoftlRT ^ Stabilisation of land slips and un stable slopes 4-0 ^ t ^ srrrf^ ^TfrfFTf^ ?rrTT ^ Share cost of raulti-purposc dams 30*00 f I Others 1-8 q'tlRT ^ nT-^TT^ ^ WYt ^ T o t a l 38-1 ^ %ii ^ ?ftT ^ H 'TM JtT ^ JTTfrf^ ?rm -P E r?f1f ^ TK f^RTT I I The Master Plan for Torsa is yet to ^ ^ ^srr^ I I be considered by the Board of Consul­ tants of the North Bengal Flood Con­ trol Commission and thereafter by the Take over of Sugar Mills By Bli!ar West Bengal Flood Control Board. Government An outlay of Rs. 18 crores has been 1162. SHRI S. R. DAMANI* approved under flood control sector SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: for West Bengal for the year 1978-79. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH WTf iHWT \ SHRI F. P. GAEKWAD:

1161. ^ ffc| rtr Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state:

(^) ^ 5 * ^hwJi (a) Government’s reaction to the V ^ WKmx ^ ^ f rrm ^ ^ recent take over of the Sugar-Mills Fnfr^ vrorv A Tt frdnl snrrTftr ^ by the Government of Bihar; and 3TTt^ ; (^ ) fVrT^ TT^'f (b) what are the grievances of the ^ ^ t? sugar industry and Government’s re­ action thereto? Twmi liwt {%h gnftw iTmHT) : (v) «ftr (v) i ^RTTtT ^ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ^ fiTiSTMm ?ft5T mfaqi f :— MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- ( 1) TAP SINGH;. (a) The action of the ( 2) ^ ?T ^ ^ Government of Bihar in amending the schedule to the Bihar Sugar un­ dertaking (Acquisition) Act, 1976 un­ ( 3) in »nR der Section 17 thereof and thereby acquiring 16 sugar in 229 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 230

the State recently has been stayed by THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ the Calcutta High Court on Writs TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI filed challenging the validity of ac­ SURJIT SINOH BARNALA): (a) quisition. The decision of the High and (b). The Government’s new stra­ Court on the Writ Petitions is awaited. tegy for stepping up cotton produc­ tion consists of: (b) The gist of the grievances of the sugar industry throughout the (i) raising the productivity both country (including Bihar) is to the in the irrigated and rainfed areas effect that due to decontrol there has by accelerating the spread of im­ been a general fall of prices every­ proved production technology; where. According to the sugar indus­ try this has resulted in an under-rea­ (ii) steping up the area under ir­ lization of their cost of production. rigation cotton, particularly under They have hence suggested a package the command of the existing irri­ of relief measures including resump­ gation projects; tion of the monthly release by the Government. The suggestions of the (iii) maximising the area under industry have been examined in de­ high yielding varieties/hybrid cot­ tail and in view of the fact that de­ tons; control has been effective for a very short period, it is the view of the Gov­ (iv) Implementation of the Cen­ ernment that it would be premature to trally Sponsored Intensive Cotton try to modify its sugar policy. It would District Programme in all the ma­ be better to allow the natural forces jor cotton growing States and its of supply and demand to operate and extension to eight new rainfed dis­ ior the prices to find a natural level. tricts of six States since 1977-78; However, the situation is being watch- (v) Intensifying the production and appropriate measures will be of nucleus and foundation seed of taken when found necessary. cotton over larger areas and en­ hancement of the rate of subsidy Cotton production from Rs. 25 to Rs. 150 per quintal for certified seed to give a fillip to 1163. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will the pure seed distribution program­ the Minister of AGRICULTURE me; and AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (vi) Announcement of a new textil« policy by the Government (a) tl,- Government’s new strategy under which the role of the Cot­ for stepping up cotton production, ton (^orporatiom of India has been formulation of cotton prices from the widened, allowing it to make com­ producer’s and consumer’s angles, the mercial purchases in the open mar­ bringing of more cotton area under ket so that cotton prices do not drop irrigation and the lines on which cot- below the prescribed minimum. ton-growing in rain fed areas could be made more fruitful than at pre­ The above steps would go a long sent; way in ensuring reasonable prices to the cotton grower, as also to safe­ (b) the steps taken or proposed to guard the interests of the consumer. taken to improve the yield of cot­ ton, the purity of seeds supplied to (c) High yielding and quality cot­ farmers; and tons have been evolved in recent years and released for general culti­ (c) how far the researches made in vation. Some of the outstanding hy­ ^his direction have yielded the desired brid cottons like hybrid-4 and Vara- results? laxmi, and superior long and extra 231 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 232

Ic^ staple varieties e.g., MCU-5, Su- complex under the head ‘salaries and jata and Suvin constitute a signifi­ allowances of the staff’ upkeep etc.? cant milestone in cotton research. These have not only led to a substan­ TH L MINISTER OF EDUCATION, tial increase in cotton production SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE but also have reduced the need for (DR. FRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- import of long staple cotton. DER): (a) to (d). Yes, Sir. The facts are as follows: Originally, during the Gandhi Darshan Gandhi Centenary Year 1969, Gandhi Darshan Exhibition was organized as 1164. SHRI S. R. DAMANI,; an international exhibition by a National Committee set up by the SHRI DURGA CHAND : Government. Though it was meant to be a temporary exhibition, it was de­ Will the Minister of EDUCATION, cided to make it a permanent exhibit SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE with the objective of acquainting the be pleased to state: large masses of people and foreign (a) whether his attention has been tourists with the life and teachings of invited to the news item captioned the Mahatma. Subsequently, the acti­ ‘Gandhi Darshan goes to people’ ap­ vities of the Gandhi Darshan were pearing in the Hindustan Times dated expanded by the addition of mobile the 28th October, 1978; exhibitions which are taken to the rural areas, schools and colleges and (b) if so. Government’s reaction re-settlement colonies for educating thereto; the people in Gandhian ideology and philosophy. During the year 1977-78 (c) the average number of visitors the average number of visitors to the who come to visit this daily during Gandhi Darshan was about 400 per the last one year; and day. The total expenditure during 1977-78 was Rs 10,19,182.83. The break (d) the total annual expenditure up of the expenditure under the diff­ incurred on the maintenance of the erent heads is given below:—

Item Non-Plan Account

I. Salaries, Allowances etc. 6,10,000 00

2. Maintenance of Gandhi Darshan Samiti Complex (^Building, Horticulture, Security, Sanitation and Pavallions, Telephone Vehicle, electricity and Water charges e t c . ) ...... 82,525-03

3- Maintenance of Display and repair of exhibits. 20,472-89

4- Activities and Programmes (Exhibitions, Cultural Programmes, Programmes for School and College students, Mobile exhibitions) .... i»30,953*7 i

5- Library (Books, Furniture, Toob and implements, Projector, Films) . 22,541-04

6. Vehicle (Mini Bus etc.) 1,19,052-54

Plan Scheme

7 - Maintenance of Photo Studio, Children Comer. 33,637-62

GRAND TOTAL .... 10,19,182*83 233 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 234

Pilot project on recreational-cum- (b) the Employees working in the Religlous Resources of Himalayas Undertakings under the administra­ tive control of this Ministry are com­ 1165. SHRIMATI PARVATI DEVI: pensated under the provisions of the Will the Minister of EDUCATION, Workmens’ Compensation Act, 1923 or SOCAL WELFARE AND CULTURE the Payment of Gratuity Act or the be pleased to state; Employees Deposit Linked Insurance Scheme, 1976 or under their Staff Re­ gulations etc. Besides there is also a (a) whether the University Grants provision for giving compensation to Commission have sanctioned a pilot employees on touring job under the project to examine the recreational- Group/Personal Accident Insurance c'ly 771-religious resources of the Hima­ Scheme. The employees of Water and layas for planning of tourism and Power Development Consultancy Ser­ pilgrimages; and vices are also governed by WAPCOS Employees Gratuity Fund Scheme. (b) if so, the details thereof?

Plan before Indo-Bangladesh Joint THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, River Commission for flood control SOCIAL WELFAREAND CULTURE and augmentation of Waters of Ganga (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) According to the informa­ 1167. SHRI CHITTA BASU; tion furnished by the University SHRI K. B. CHETTRI: Grants Commission, no such project has been sanctioned by the Commis­ SHRI KIRIT BIKRAM DEB sion. BURMAN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (b) Does not arise. AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state; (a) whether Government have sub­ mitted a comprehensive plan before Provision of compensation to Emp­ the Indo-Bangladesh Joint River Com­ loyees who die or are wounded on mission for the purpose of flood duty in Undertakings control and augmentation of waters of the Ganga;

1166. SHRI D. N. TIWARY: Will (b) if so, essential features of the the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND proposal; and IRRIGATION be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question (c) the reaction of the Bangladesh No. 1072 on 24th July, 1978 regarding Government; provision of compensation to employ­ ees who die or are wounded on duty THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ in undertakings and state: TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) to (a) whether the information has (c). The proposal by India envisages since been collected; and integrated development of the Ganga- Brahmaputra-Meghna System and (b) if so, the details thereof? proposes transfer of the surplus waters of the Brahmaputra to the Ganga through a Brahmaputra-Ganga link THE MINISTER OF STATE IN canal. Depending on water require­ the m in is t r y o f AGRICULTURE ments, at the appropriate stage, phased and IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU construction of three storage damson PRATAP SINGH); (a) Yes, Sir. the Dihang, the Subnsiri and the Barak Written Answers 236 ^35 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 rivers bas also been proposed to sup­ Soil Conservation and Land Reclama­ plement the waters in the link canal tion would involve an outlay of about The Indian proposal would provide Rs. 45 crores during 1978—83. The large benefits of fkx>d control, water Report is under consideration. supply and irrigation, navigation, hy­ dro-power generation, etc., to both (c) Maximum land under the sch­ the countries. eme is likely to be reclaimed in U.P. Bangladesh has also made a pro­ (d) There are two schemes which posal which envisages augmentation will bring additional land under agri­ of the Ganga flows by construction of culture storage dams within the Ganga basin (i) Central Scheme for protection in India and Nepal for the benefit of and development of ravine water- these two countries as well as Bang­ sheds. ladesh in regard to power generation and irrigation and augmentation of Under the scheme shallow and me­ the flows in the Ganga. Some of the dium ravings will be reclaimed for agri stored water in Nepal is also proposed culture and the rest of the revinous to be utilised in a canal passing along areas will be brought under afforesta­ the Nepal terai to Bangladesh through tion on the basis of treatment of a a 30 km. corridor in India in the nor­ complete watershed with the twin thern part of West Bengal to provide objective of checking further spread an international navigation water of ravines, and utilising the land al­ route to Nepal as well as to augment ready ruined by ravines. the flows in the Mahananda and other rivers. (ii) Central Scheme for reclama- tion and management of alkali soils The Indo-Bangladesh Joint Rivers and amendment of acid soils. Commission has undertaken the pre­ Alkali land is treated with gypsum/ liminary study of the two proposals. pyrites and a package of fertiliser and cropping practices to make them fit for agriculture agam. Acid soil is al Additional land under Agriculture ready under cultivation.

1168. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Proposal to increase pric? of wheat AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: 1169. SHRI RAGHBIR SINGH (a) whether Ministry have drawn VIRK: Will the Minister of AGRI­ up a plan to bring additional hectares CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be of land for Agricultural purpose dur­ pleasd to state; ing the Vlth Plan period; (a) whether the prices of agricul­ (b) if so, the total cost of expendi­ tural components have gone high dur­ ture involved; ing the last three years and if so, (c) in which State more land is like­ the reasons thereof; ly to be brought under the scheme; and (b) whether it is also a fact that (d) the main features of the scheme? prices 0^ wheat stand still during the same period in view of the fact that THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE prices of agricultural components AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT have gone high; and BINGH BARNALA): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) whether Government propose : (b) The proposals isuggested in the to increase Ihfe prices Of wheat and Report of the Working Group on if not, the reasons thereof? 237 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 238

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and 1977-78 was 7.1 percent, while MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND the prices of inputs, except electricity IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- and insecticides, have risen at a les­ TAP SINGH): (a) and (b). A state­ ser rate so much so that prices of lu­ ment showing the procurement price bricating oil, tractors and fertilisers pf wheat and index numbers of whole­ recorded a fall. sale prices of agricultural inputs is attached. It will be seen therefrom (c) Government are expected to that percentage rise in the procure­ announce the procurement price of ment price of wheat between 1975-76 wheat for the next rabi season shortly.

Statement

P; >c.i- le It price oi' wraai and Incle-x nuinhcrs of \Nhrl<^alf j.nic* - < 1 Aj • iculiuirJ ii j i i'

•‘975-76 *1976-77 *1977-78 Percentage variation in 1977-78 over 1975-76

Procurement price of what (Rs. per qtl.) . 105-00 1 lo - 00 1 12-00 + 7*1

Index Nos. of wholesale prices of (Base: 1970-71 = 100)

Diesel Oil ...... 206 *4 213-9 214-1 + 3*7

Lubricating Oil 316-2 314-2 314-2 —0-6

Electricity 158- I 171-6 182*5 + 15*4

Tractors. 204- 6 203*0 202*4 — I • I

A gripow rah 2 i6*9 216-9 231*3 + 6-G

Cem ent . 170-5 173*6 176-8 ' 4-3-7

P ig Iron. 175-4 i8i-6 181 - 7 1+ 3-6

Fertilisers 214-7 i86-5 177*4 — 17-4

Insecticides 2i6- 2 232-4 232-2 + 7*4

♦Relate to the crop harvested during the year (to be marketed in the subsequent year).

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(*P) f*TT WTVR ^ sr^ , fftr fwm# «wA («f> Rf? anfT^T TT^ $ fm rf ifhrmft vTnmr): (^r) ir smrfjra fSrcrMisT TlWf ^ 1978—79 ^ cVtPT WftnT jft^RT qr jnr iTTf ^ ^TT snrr^ 'm it *rf ^ ^ » (1) filfTT (w} fW 5(%w (2) irfwnT lipenft TTfiii ( 3) si^sr *rt7r ,* I ; <4) 43mr 239 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27. 1&78 Written Answers 240

(5) THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (6) sriwr AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): Although a num­ ( 7) ber of final control measures have ^ tttjt wfinr^ been taken up in the Ganga Basin, ^ ^ Bproftr flood damages occur whenever there , 9rrftr^ 1 1 is heavy precipitation and consequent high stage flood in the rivers, 2848 (^) (^t). ?tt? Ir smrftRT ^ km. of embankments, 3462 Km. of ♦ 5T 9T 6.75 drainage channels have already been ftn^ ^ f I 5T^ ^RVR % ^ constructed. Protection work for 78 fc fWN-^PW ftR ^ ^ Tiftr ^ towns, raising of 4511 villages and 31 1979 SR ^ ^ bank erosion works in a number of WRTR ^ I places have been carried out. These works have provided protection to an 5ff!T Jiiif, fffjR fftr *rftvT wmw v wt? area of about 27 lakh hectares. snirfwEi^ nT^mwf The Ganga Flood Control Commis­ sion which was set up, interalia to 1171. «ftirnrifw?T ftr^ : ^ f f t TO $PT% 7T ^ I 2 4 ndM^«q ^[=3RT ^ fR«l< ^ f^WT the rivers. 1978-79 15.88 f3Rm ^Fr?T % ^ ^TTfiT^ t Storages aggregating to about 20 M. ^ 73 ^ ?RF3ft ^ ^ ^ a. ft. have already been built on the ^ «jY I 5 f^ , wVt SPTT^ Ganga system in India. Storages of ^ ^ ^ I 15^ M'»*n ^ about 9 M. a. ft., are under construc­ ^ %fn ^ «RTiff ^ ;jnr»T tion such as Tehri, Raj ghat Dam, ?tVt ■®II^ ^ «lOid^W^ ^ ?r ^ f^n?^ f w t I Kanhar, Greater Gangau dams etc. which are likely to provide storages aggregating to about 6 M. a. ft. Control and utilisation of water of Ganga Basin In the case of many important tri­ butaries of the Ganga such as Sarda, 1172. SHRI SHAMBHUNATH Ghaghra (Kamali), Rapti, Gandak, CHATURVEDI: Will the Minister Kosi, etc. suitable storage sites are of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION available only in Nepal. His Majesty’s be pleased to state what schemes or Government of Nepal has been reques­ proposals are in hand or under con­ ted to cooperate in the loint studies sideration for the proper control and and discussions regarding development utilisation of the waters of the Ganga of the rivers comnMn to India and basin which run to waste or cause Nepal, keeping in view the flood con­ floods ami devastation? trol and other benefits. Agreement 241 ' Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 242 has already been reached with His (b) whether it is a fact that the Majesty’s Government of Nepal for negatives were stored at places not fit joint investigations of the Rapti (Bha- for this purpose; and lubhang), Pancheshwar and Karnali projects in Nepal which will provide (c) what action has been taken irrigation, power and flood control against the officers for their inaction in benefits. the matter?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SO C IA L WELFARE AND CULTURE 1173. v(\ fftr ^DR. P R A T A P CHANDRA CHUN- 1^'TT fsp : DER): (a) to (c). The Archaeological S u rv ey of India have about 50,000 old (^) ^ 9RTT I ^ film negatives of ancient monuments. friqr^TJT ^fTfTRT 4 > ^ +1 I<1 Periodic checks on their up-keep are H ^ ^ made, action is taken to rejuvinate ^ ^WHTTI fsTH^r ^ ^ ^ ^€ft^ qr ^ those which show signs of decay. How­ 5T^ ^>zn ^TTTJT f^R li ^ ever, over a period of time, it was found ?TTf t from these periodic checks that about 800 negatives have been damaged be­ (^) ?ft^«rr yond the possibility of repairs. This % ^ "Ti^TT ^ ^ <'t»R ^ has not been due to any negligence on the part of any officer of the Survey. The damage mostly was because of frf^^r ifh m r ^ ^ ttto («ft age. The question of proper storage mij smn fH|f) : (?r) facilities is engaging the attention of irft^ V srf^^rftnft 5rn^ f the Archaeological Survey.

^ ^rnm f Construction of modest houses In Rashtrapati Bhavan Complex ?rY^ ^>T ^^Tpfhr ^r?if % vttt i 1175. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: Will (^) ^ ^ sifftcnr the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ ?rtT JTf farftw §5TT ^ g’tr^rrft 77; ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ ^cTT^ ^ ^ I TATION be pleased to state: TTWT ^TTT ^^nTI[ ^ ^ ^ ^ (a) whether it is a fact that Govern­ ^ TT^ ^ ^ ^ qxnm f w ^ ment have decided to construct new t I ^ jn r modest houses in the Rashtrapati "TSTf ^ ^QTT ^ ^ ^ Bhavan complex by March, 1980; and fcn W I I (b) if so, the details regarding the News item entitled “Monumental plan of Government and the amount Salvage Operation On” sanctioned for the purpose? 1174. SHRI OM PRAKASH TYA- GI: Will the Minister of EDUCA­ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND TION, SOCIAL WELFAJtE AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND CULTURE be pleased to refer to a REHABILITATION (SHRI SIKAN- fi^ews item at page 5 of the ‘Tribune’ DER BAKHT): (a) The proposal is dHted 23rd October, 1978 under the under consideratioai. caption ‘Monumental salvage opera­ tion on* and state: (b) The proposal is to construct smaller houses for IN^isters nvlth (a) whether over 6000 rare film about 3000 Sq. feet of livinig space. The negatives of ancient monumcntf have scheme has not so far been sanction­ been ruined completely; ed. ^43 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 244

Beport Of the study rroaps on Cotton matters of recruitment and promotions Price in the National Seeds Corporation;

1176. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY; (b) whether it is a fact that even WiU the Minister of AGRICULTURE the posts vacated by the S/C and S/T AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: employees have been filled by other persons and if so, the number of such (a) whether the study group set up vacancies; and by the Planning Commission at the instance of the Ministry' of Agricul­ (c) the steps being taken or pro ture to go into the question of cotton posed to be taken to fill up the back­ price has submitted its report; log? (b) if so, the principal recommen- THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Nations of the Group; and AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) and (c). (c) whether Government have With the establishment of the National -accepted that Report in full? Seeds Corporation on 1.7.1963, the staff recruited by ICAR for an analog­ THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ ous scheme was transferred to them in TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI which there was no representation of SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) The Scheduled Casts or Scheduled Tribes. Planning Commission has not *=et up Later on, some of the Commodity any study group to go into the ques­ Committees like Indian Central Su­ tion of cotton prices as such. How­ garcane Committee were dissolved by ever, a Technical Committee for Buffer the Government of India and the re­ Stock Operation of Cotton has been trenched stafi’ was accommodated in set up by the Department of Industrial the National Seeds Corporation. More Development in June, 1978. The terms over, a number of posts, because of of reference of this Committee, inter- the special nature of the Corporation, alia, include the following: were filled by transfer on deputation “to recommend the size of the buf­ from various Government agencies fer stock that would be necessary like ICAR, AGCR and State Govern­ for maintaining cotton prices within ments. This category of staff also got the desired range over a five year eventually absorbed in the National period. If necessary, the Committee Seeds Corporation. Moreover, there may indicate two or three alterna­ was no directive for recruitment of tives for price stabilisation objec­ Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Trib­ tives.’’ es on a quota basis in the public sec­ tor companies like National Seeds Cor­ The Committee has yet to finalise poration till 1967. It was only after its report. that the relevant instructions were issued by the Government. Since then, (b) Does not arise. every effort has been made and will (c) Does not arise. continue to be made to ensure that the recruitment is made according to the prescribed norms. NSC have in fact Reservation of Scheduled Castes and prepared a 40-point roster to ensure Tribes In National Seeds Corporation that the rights of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes are safeguarded. 1177. SHRI MAHI LAL: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IR­ (b) The rules on the subject do not RIGATION be pleased to state: provide that the posts vacated by the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe • (a) the efforts made to complete the em plqy^ should necessarily be Ulled backlog in reservation of posts for by the same categoiles. ^ gets decid­ persons holonging to S/C and S/T in ed by the 40-polnt roster on the subject. 045 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers ^246

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10. >JTt ?TTTo ^O T^, ^T^^- ^njT?T vP? wtT Riwrf w> («ft g^?T ftr? frf^ frm^T I ^rmm) : (v) ^ 5t I (^) ^rfiTfir ^ (v)| A*fl7xnriF^, ^TVFT| vTVit '^' ffWnrfNv wnft ^ ftnsTtw jft^PTT vnft^ I I, m^r ^ *rRr ehr ?t 1 247 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 24^

Rice, Maize and Wheat to Jammu and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Kashmir and Interest Outstanding on MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL Unpaid Amount WELFARE AND CULTURE (SHRI- MATI RENUKA DEVI BARAKA- 1180. SHRI ABDUL AHAD VAKIL: TAKI): (a) No, Sir. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE a n d ir r ig a t io n be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise.

(a) what is total tonnage of Rice, (c) It is Government’s policy to en­ Maize and Wheat supplied to the courage all Indain languages, including State of Jammu and Kashmir since Urdu and to provide facilities for September, 1975 to October, 1978 and their development. The Government cost thereof; and are promoting the development of Urdu language by setting up the Bu­ (b) how much amount as interest reau for Promotion of Urdu which is on outstanding is unpaid to date? publishing academic literature in Urdu. The Government are also assisting THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TjHE National Book Trust and Sahitya Aka- MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND demi as well as various voluntary or- IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- ganiations engaged in the task of pro­ TAP SINGH),: (a): The total tonnage motion of Urdu. The National Book of Rice, Wheat and Maize supplied to Trust has been publishing books on the State of Jammu and Kashmir various topics including Indian history since September, 1975 to October, 1978 and culture and children’s literature. and cost thereof is as under: — The Sahitya Akademi has also brought out a number of books which comprise Quantify C(>t literary and general books. Besides, in Rs. in the Akademi has given awards to dis­ '000 Lakl s Tcnnrs tinguished Urdu writers. Training is also being conducted to prepare Urdu teachers in Regional Training Centres (under Central Institute of Indian W h eat 442-20 6756-65 Languages) established at Solan and

Rict* 267-30 4 1 4 7 ‘ <^i Patiala by the Government of India. Thus, due encouragement is being M a iz e 2!•ir 212-58 given by the Government for the pro­

T o a a L . 7:^0-60 11116 24 motion and development of Urdu lan­ guage. Cb) The required information is being collected.

Proposal for a Conference on Urdu 1183. ^ ^ : fin Language

1181. SHRI ABDUL AHAD VAKIL: (v) ysr iftiRT 5TTT Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 1978 ^ ftwft ^ ^ be pleased to state: (a) whether Government are pro­ posing a conference of all shades of opinion to encourage Urdu language; (^ ) «rft ?ft HTvrr »ttt irfii- (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor? nf Iff? 249 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 6. 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 250

' (c) and (d). The allotment was wTwmr) : (v) ^ 51^ i made to her on a purely temporary basis at a monthly licence fee of ( ^ ) 16 fT »TTi^) ^ fW t partmental charges. The following are 5RT 5^ ^ ^ f ^ ^ 'TRT ^ the main conditions: ^ 5»sr fWt ^ «ftT feiTT w I ^ JT]^ ^ ^ ^ \ (i) The allotment is liable to be c a n c e lle d at a n y time by giving one cT^TtPt, 2TT^ 5Ft ^ fWt ^T^TT^^FR ?rPrfcT ^ ^T^PT ^ ^ Pi^l ^fhi month’s notice; JTt^RT ^ W f?T^T^ 5TlftMVIMl ^ sdfl + l fails to make over peaceful posses­ ^ h ^ I ^ ^>5T?T sion of the accommodation, the f^OTPT ^ 5T^ ^ I, Govjernment are entitled to evict the ^q*r ^ f?riT licensee through the process of Law; <’

(d) what are the terms and condi­ tions for allotment? 1185, tft WWft •TTTnrn’ 5TTHV : f ITT Pflff^ fftr 5nTT% THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ ^ : HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT). (a) 12. Willingdon Cres- (v) Pft xm i # cent, New Delhi, a type VIIl Bunga­ ^ ♦ Pmfq low, was allotted on leave and licence basis. RT ^ ^fVrrr ^ 500 750 ^ (b) Commercial rent is not assess­ ed. The “Market rent” the bunga­ low was Rs. 8,917/- p.m. upto 31st March, m e and it is Rs. 4,097/- p.m. {9 ) ^ ^ irom 1st April, 1978 onwards. 5 ^ WVPft VT f^RTT ^^T ? 251 Written Answers NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Written Answers 252

iftr viiH OTi ^[fii iftr SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: ihft (trftftiTOTim) : (v) ^ A (Diamond Harbour): On a point of order under rule 314(2) regarding ^ irniTw W ^ the Privileges Conmiittee Report that s t v n TT^ 4 I I ^mtfERT HMWVffl has been laid on the Table of the v rfw irdhr, ^5^ ♦ cnn ^tvpt House. At page 116 of the Report the Committee has found four lapses on #» fir^ 500-750 the part of Mrs. Gandhi. I

(^) TOT ^TW>R % ^ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : I bring ^ ^ t w«n qr i to your notice the fact that the Privi­ leges Committee has made a recom­ mendation with regard to one of her lapses, but the other three lapses have gone uncared for. The Committee has said: 12 hrs. “The Committee also regrets that in her written statement dated the SHRI HARIKESH BAHADUR 16th June, 1978....” (Interruptions) (Gorakhpur) : We have given calling attention. The whole village was MR. SPEAKER: He is raising a burnt. (Interruptions) point of order under rule 314(2). Your notice is that there is a breach of rule 314(2). We are not going into ^ wnr 55^ Hm (^m?n) : «ts2T5t facts. %TTir ^ %(^iwn: # mm | ftp 162 ^ fen n?n, 18 ^ ^ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I am iwvTX fern ^ qr only pointing out where the breach has taken place. Htjff ^ mrr 1 ^ qr ^ ft I ‘‘The Committee also regrets that in her written statement dated the 16th June, 1978....^’ (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: You are again MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. The going into facts. matter is quite a serious one, but only one or two papers have published it. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: The I have called for urgent facts from the Committee has committed a lapse Home Ministry, and I will take a deci­ under rule 314(2). For that I am sion in the course of today. making out a case. ___ she chos6 to make the fol­ SHRI VAYALAR RAVI (Chirayin- lowing remarks... kil) : I have given notice of an ad- journment motion. MR. SPEAKER: Rule 314(2) pro­ vides that the report may also start MR. SPEAKER : Yes, there is notice the procedure to be followed by the of an adjournment motion also, and House in giving effect to the recom­ there is calling attention. I have call­ mendations of the Committee. So ed for facts from the Government, and far as that word ‘‘may” is concern­ I ho^ to get the facts. I will take a ed, it is open to them to state it or decision by this evening. not. There are precedents. 253 yfritten Answers AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Papers Laid 254

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: There 12.05 hrs. are four lapses. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE MR, SPEAKER: That has to be Order re. equitable distribution op discussed at the time of the report Fertilizer THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I am TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHBI only drawing the attention of the SURJIT SINGH BARNALA) : I beg House ---- to lay on the Table a copy of Order (Hindi and English versions) publish­ MR. SPEAKER: No, I am not al­ ed in Notification No. G.S.R. 446(E) in lowing it. I will give adequate op­ Gazette of India dated the 7th Sep­ portunity to discuss this matter. I will tember, 1978, regarding equitable dis­ place it before the Business Advisory tribution Of fertiliser, under sub-sec­ Committee. Though the rule is half tion (6) of section 3 of the Essential an hour, every side of the House wants Commodities Act, 1955. [Placed in to have a full discussion. At the Library. See No. LT—2857/78]. moment, I am not going to allow any­ thing more. You can bring out that Certified Accounts op Indian Insti - at the time of the discussion of the TUTEs OF Technology ani > Report, not now. Bombay for 1976-77 and Statement FOR delay SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Have THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, you got a copy o fthe report? SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE* (DR. PRATAP CHADNRA CHUN- MR. SPEAKER: I have gone DER) : I beg to lay on the Table: — through the Report, It is not for me to say anything at all. I do not want (1) A copy each of the following to go into the merits of the Privileges papers under sub-section (4) of sec­ Committee’s Report. It is always open tion 23 of the Institutes of Technology to the House to discuss it. Act, 1961: — (i) Certified Accounts (Hindi* SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Have version) of the Indian Institute of yru got a copy of the Report? Technology, Kharagpur, for the year 1976-77 along with the Audit Report MR. SPEAKER : Don’t record; thereon. [Placed in Library. See nothing more. No. LT—2858/78] SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU:** (ii) Certified Accounts (Hindi and English versions) of the Indian MR. SPEAKER : I am going to give Institute of Technology, Bombay, adequate opportunity for discussion. for the year 1976-77 along with the You cannot have a double opportu. Audit Report thereon. [Placed in i^ity. You can mention it at the time Library. See No. LT—2859/78] Of the discussion, not now. (2) A statement (Hindi and Eng­ Papers to be laid on the Table of lish versions) showing reasons for the House, delay in laying the documents men­ tioned at (ii) above. [Ploccd in Library. See No. LT—2860/78] ""^Not recorded. •The English version of the Accounts and the Audit Report were laid on the Table on the 28th August, 1978. 255 Papers Laid NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Messages from R.S. 256

Annual Reports and Reviews of ber, 1978, regarding restrictions on Technical Teachers ’ Training Insti ­ stock of vacuum pan sugar. tutes , (S outhern Region —^Madras ) and (Northern Region —Chandigarh ) (2) G.S.R. 500(E) published in FOR 1977-78 Gazette of India dated the 17th Octo­ ber, 1978, regarding sale of sugar of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN I.S.S. specification. THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATON, [Placed in Library. See No. LT— SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUL­ 2865/78] TURE (SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARAKATAKI) : I beg to lay on the Table : — (1) (i) A copy of the Annual Re­ port (Hindi and English versions) of MESSAGES FROM RAJYA SABHA the Technical Teachers’ Training In­ stitute (Southern Region) Madras, for SECRETARY: Sir, I have to report the year 1977-78. [Placed in Library. the following messages received from See No. LT—2861/78] the Secretary-General of Rajya (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi Sabha: — and English versions) by the Govern­ ment on the working of the Techni­ (i) “In accordance with the pro­ cal Teachers' Training Institute visions of rule 127 of the Rules of (Southern Region) Madras, for the procedure and Conduct of Business year 1977-78. , [Placed in Library. See in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed No. LT—2862/78] to inform the Lok Sabha that the Rajya Sabha, at its sitting held on (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Re­ the 23rd November, 1978, agreed port (Hindi and English versions) of without any amendment to the the Technical Teachers’ Training In­ Bolani Ores Limited (Acquisition stitute Northern Region) Chandigarh, of shares) and Miscellaneous Provi­ for the year 1977-78. [Placed in Li­ sions Bill, 1978 which was passed brary. See No. LT—2863/78] by the Lok Sabha at its sitting held (ii) A copy Of the Review (Hindi on the 20th November, 1978.” and English versions) by the Govern­ ment on the working of the Technical (ii) ‘I am directed to inform the Teachers’ Training Institute (Nor­ Lok Sabha that the Rajya Sabha, at thern Region) Chandigarh, for the its sitting held om Friday, the 24th year 1977-78. [Placed in Library, See November, 1978, adopted the fol­ No. LT—2864/78] lowing motion in regard to the pre­ sentation of the Report of the Joint Notifications under Essential C om­ Commitee of the Houses on the modities Act, 1955 Visva-Bharati (Amendment) Bill, 1978: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE “That the time appointed for AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU the presentation of the Report of PRATAP SINGH) : I beg to lay on the Joint Committee of the the Table a copy each of the following Houses on the Visva-Bharati Notifications (Hindi and English ver­ (Amendment Bill, 1978, be ex­ sions) under sub-section (6) of sec­ tended up to the last day of the tion 3 of the Essential Commodities first week of the Hundred and Act, 1955: — Eighth Session of the Rajya Sabha.*’ ' (1) G. S. R. 493(E) published in Gazetted of India dated the 9th Octo­ 257 AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Shortage of 258 coal (CA) 12.118 hrs. both of v/hich companies were severe­ ly affected by floods in September and CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER October this year. OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE.

Reported SHORTAGE of C oal in many As Members are aware, there are PARTS op the country four producing companies in Coal India. In addition, coal is pro­ duced by Singareni Collieries, a SHRI HARIKESH BAHADUR company in which the State (Gorakhpur): Sir, I call the attention Government of Andhra Pradesh of the Minister of Energy to the fol­ has a majority share-holding and in lowing matter of urgent public impor­ the captive coalmines owned by tance and I request that he may make TISCO and IISCO. Of the four pro­ a statement thereon; — ducing companies in Coal India, two “The reported shortage of coal in were severely affected by floods. As many parts of the country resulting a result in ECL production from April in hardship to the people.” to October this year has been 12.0 million tonnes against 13.3 million SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: (Dia­ tonnes during the same period last mond Harbour) : On a point of order, year. In BCCL production has been Sir. The Calling Attention notices 10.6 million tonnes this year as com­ were given by others also. You do pared to 11 million tonnes last year. not even fulfil the number of five In WCL which was not affected by names on the list. It is on such an floods and where the power supply important and vital matter. How is it situation has been good, production that you have put only four names in­ has increased from 12 million tonnes stead of five names on the Calling during the period April-October last Attention? year to 13.1 million tonnes this year. MR SPEAKER : Within the time In CCL also production increased fixed, only four had come. from 10.7 million tonnes last year to 11.6 million tonnes this year. In SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : You are Signareni Collieries, despite the the lord of the House ___ lengthy strike in April and May this year, production increased from 4.96 MR. SPEAKER : I am only the ser­ million tonnes to 5.04 million tonnes vant of the House. this year. There has been some drop in the production of the captive THE MINISTER OF ENERGY: mines this year. ( S m i P. RAMACHANDRAN): I appreciate the anxiety of the Hon’ble I expect that WCL, CCL and Singa­ Members over the question of supply reni Collieries will be able to meet of coal to consumers in the country. I their production targets for the year. have no intention of trying to explain In ECL and BCCL a shortfall from away the shortages that are being felt the target is likely. As Members may amongst certain sections of the consu- be aware, the rate of coal production niers. We are very much alive to in the country which is generally low the problem and are taking all pos­ in the, first half of the year increases sible steps to deal with it. rapidly from the month of October on­ We have received reports of short- wards. The floods in ECL and BCCL ^Ses from certain parts of the coun­ therefore came at a time when these try, particularly from industrial con­ companies had planned a sizeable in­ sumers. crease in the rate of production. The daily rate of production which was However, as i shall explain, these about 70,000 tonnes in ECL and 65,000 I ^^c^rtages have arisen almost entirely tonnes in BCCL just before the floods, aue tQ a drop in production in East­ fell to between 25,000 and 30,000 ton­ ern Coalfields and Bharat Coking Coal, nes per day immediately after the 3131 LS—7 259 Sh€)rtaffe of NOVEMBER 27, 1978 coal (CA) 260 (Shri P. Ramachandran) upon Eastern Coalfields. Some of the floods. This rate has now increased to shortages at the consimier end are due about 68,000 tonnes in ECL and 64,000 to the drop in production in ECL and tonnes in BCCL. This however is BCCL and some are due to opera­ lower than the level normally ex­ tional factors connected with the pected in order to reach the produc­ movement of coal from the coalfields tion targets. I am however hopeful to the consuming centres. We are that production levels in these two keeping a close watch over the situ­ companies will return to normal by ation to ensure that the pithead stocks the end of December. We are also are moved to the consvmiers as quick­ endeavouring to make up in part the ly as possible. shortfall in production in these two companies by stepping up further* the Some difficulty is being felt in the production in WCL, CCL and Singa- availability of soft coke. 80 per cent of rem collieries. the soft coke in the country is produc­ ed in BCCL and ECL and the drop in Because of the factors I have men­ production in these two companies tioned, shortages are being experienc­ has directly affected the production of ed by certain categories of consumers. soft coke. With the progress of de- The shortfalls in ECL have affected watering of the mines and the re­ supplies to a number of industrial covery of coal production, the rate of consumers and to the railways. ECL production of soft coke is also increas­ is the largest source of high grade ing and should reach normal levels by steam coal in the country which is the end of December. As regards hard used by industries, and production coke, coal India is only one of the drop has led to a reduction in sup­ sources of supply. Production of hard plies to them. Similarly, the produc­ coke this year upto October has m- tion drop in BCCL has also led to creased from 3.78 lakh tonnes last year a reduction in supplies to the steel to 4.75 lakh tonnes this year. plants. We have tried to mitigate the effect of these shortages as far In conclusion, I would like to em­ as possible by drawing on stocks. To­ phasise that we are fully aware of day the pithead stock of coal the problems caused by the drop Oi in the country is approximately 10 production in ECL and BCCL and million toanes. Although all grades we are taking all possible steps to en­ of coal are not available in sure that the hardship of the consu­ slock, it will be possible to meet mers is reduced to the minimum. We the bulk of the country’s requirements are endeavouring to supply require­ from current production and stocks. ment normally met by ECL from The Central Coalfields have a stock of areas where stocks of the required 3 million tonnes, of which over 2 mil­ grade are available, such as Central lion tonnes are available in the Ka- Coalfields and Singareni. Although ranpura area. This area supplies coal the estimated shortfall in coal produc­ to the power sector, cement plants, tion in the country against the target industries and railways. In Jharia is likely to be about 6 to 7 million which is the main source of supply tonnes, we expect that the bulk of the of slack coal to power houses and demand within the country will be brick-burners we have 1.6 million ton­ met. nes of stock. In Singareni which meets the bulk of the requirements SHRI HARIKESH BAHADUR: I of tho southern region we have a pit­ certainly apprecite the problems be­ head stock of 1.2 million tonnes. It is fore the Minister and I can say that because of these stocks that shortages he is sincerely working hard to re­ in the country have been confined to move the crisis. a limited number of units. These But, Sir, there is a great crisis of shortages have mostly taken place in coal in this country and coal is neither the case of units which are dependent available adequately for the domestic a$a Shortage of AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (S^KA) coal (CA) 262 purposes nor for industrial purposes. gone up as I mentioned in my state­ Several foundries have been closed ment. But the only problem that we aiid even some big industries like ce­ face today is the problem of shortage ment industry etc. are also going to be and the shortage is mainly in the in­ closed. The hon. Member, Shri Vinod dustrial coal sector. Even then we Bhai Sheth was telling that there is will see---- one very big cement factory in Gujarat which is going to be closed SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA because of shortage of coal. Ulti­ (Serampore): Soft coke is also not mately it may hamper industrial pro­ available. duction and that will create a big problem for the country. SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: I have mentioned in my statement Officers are telling that because of about the shortages. I have not hid­ floods, etc. there is scarcity of coal den the fact. The problem is that we and they are unable to produce coal have got even today in soft coke a according to targets fixed by the gov­ stock of about 80,000 tonnes at the ernment, but it is not a fact. Even pil-heads and in hard-coke, about 1.21 the oflficers of the Coal India Ltd. lakh tonnes ...... and BCCL are not functioning well. They have actually if I may say so, SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: become careless and irresponsible. But consumers are not getting. That will be more correct. Only in the name of devastation caused by SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: May Hoods they are just telling that coal be. production has been hampered and SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: that is why there is i^hortage of coal. What may be? The hon. Member also It will not be true because there had raised this matter. been some instances on the basis of which one can say that if they had MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Harikcsh Ba- looked into the whole matter proper- hadur is a very active Member. iy, this crisis would have been solved to a greater extent. SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: Men­ tio n in g about the failure of the com­ Another problem is the distribution p an y officials to reach the target may system. Distribution of coal should not be true but with regard to the be taken over by the government as distribution of coal, government has many members of the House feel and Ho proposal before them to take over 1 also feel because, if the distribution the distribution of coal. Now what we •\vrtem of coal and coke is taken over, do is that the soft coke and hard coke certainly hoarders and black-mar- are distributed through the sponsor­ kcteers will not get the opportunity to ship recommendations of the State ^’xploit the people. Today thny arc governments. That is how this is setting this opportunity and they are being done and with regard Iq other ^'xploiting. sectors like slack coal it is free. For instance the brick-kiln owners can I would like to ask one specific buy coal as they please. It is only the Question from the hon. Minister; whe­ slack coal that can be sold freely. As far ther the government has any proposal as soft and hard coke are concerned, to take over the distribution system of the State Governments always spon­ coal and coke in the near future. sor some distributing agencies for dis­ tribution of coal and the Central SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: About Government has no proposal to take problems raised by the hon. over the distribution of coal. Member, i can only say that coal pro­ duction is picking up of late. In the MR. SPEAKER: Shri Vasant ^^onth of November, production has Sathe—he is not here. coal (CA) 263 Shortage of NOVEMBER 27, 1978 264

Shri Chitta Basu. price, at a price, higher than the prevailing one in the country thereby SHRI CHITTA BASU (Barasat) : causing losses to our foreign exchange Sir, the long statement made by the reserves. hon. Minister, let me say that, it dis­ appointing. It covers the truth most. The coal industry of the country to­ The crisis of the coal industry is not day consumes about seventeen million the crisis of shortage of supply. I tonnes which our industry cannot pro­ can contest on that point also. This is duce. Apart from the steel industry, more or less a crisis which is reflect­ other priority sectors of the industry ed in the system of distribution alone. are also suffering, although 85 per There is widespread corruption. Also cent of the total coal output is allotted there are malpractices, mismanage­ to these priority sectors, because of ment and operation of rackcts wbich the mismanagement, they are suffer­ are responsible for the present mud­ ing and there has been a loss of pro­ dle, if I am allowed to say that. This duction in almost all the priority sec­ is completely a muddle in the coal. tors of Industries. Really, i£ you will It is not a production crisis at all be­ allow me to say so, six million domes­ cause there is no gap between the tic consumers ---- demand and supply. The Statesman writes editorially on November 20, MR. SPEAKER: Your statement 1978, only a few days ago, and I should be shorter. quote: SHRI CHITTA BASU : His state­ “The production has been esti­ ment is longer. mated a 112 million tonnes and there are about ten million tonnes MR. SPEAKER: That does not of pit-hcad stocks. The coal muddle mean that your statement should be however, continues despite this longer. You should make a short safe position.” statement. The Statesman calls it a safe position SHRI CHITTA BASU: If he has because the estimated demand to-day made a short statement, I would have is in the region between 112 to 115 also made a short statement. You million tonnes. Therefore, the posi­ know that there are six million do­ tion is safe, so far as production is mestic consumers and about 20,000 concerned and yet the supply gap re­ small industrial units who have be­ mains. I only quote one or two in­ come the worst victims of this coal stances to show bow the steel industry muddle created by him. What is the of our country is being badly affected distribution system prevalent today? due to mismanagement of the supply The sale and distribution is organised of coal. In October this year, the units through the middlemen. Coal industry under the Steel Authority of India had is responsible to produce and allot to curtail their production by about quotas to various industries. (Inters 25 per cent because the supply of cok­ ruptions). ing coal was reportedly not more than 36,000 tonnes a day against com­ MR, SPEAKER : Mr. Chitta Basu, mitment of 42,000 tonnes. in Calling Attention you‘should not read out. Again, the situation at Bhilai, TISCO and IISCO has sometime be­ SHRI CHITTA BASU : Here lies the come precarious because of non-sup- problem. ply of the committed coal. Thus, the steel industry has suffered and the MR. SPEAKER: You come to the Government have decided to import question. about one million tonnes of soft-coke. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Here lies that is, coking coal, for the operation the problem of a highly organised ra­ of the steel industry at a very high cketeering operations in the whole 26s Shortage of AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) coal (CA) 266 distribution which involves the per­ price in the StatesL It is for the State sons in high authority, the State Min­ Governments to come forward and fix isters, railway officials and local poli­ the price for retail outlets in their ticians—I won’t spare anybody—and area. It is not for the Central Gov­ senior staff members of the B.C.C.L. ernment to step into this area where and CJ.L. and, of course, the finan- State Governments are competent to •iers who are able to grease the palm do this. ^Interruptions)- "niere is no of others. racket. (Interruptions). MR. SPEAKER: Please come to The hon’ble Member has made your question. charges about the State Government ministers. I do not think I am in a SHRI CHITTA BASU: I am com- position to answer those because ing to my question. neither the ministers nor the officials are present here. We will definitely MR. SPEAKER: You are still not take action if any specific case is coming to your question. You must brouhgt to our notice. come to the question. Sir, as regards the demand also, the SHRI CHTITA BASU; I want to revised demand in the countrj’ will be know whether it is a fact that because only 109 million tonens in the country of the operations of the rackets, a huge for which enough production is going quantity of the B.C.C.L. and C.I.L. pro­ on. So, the demand will be met. But duced coal are being blackmarketed if there are any problems of distribu­ at Rs. 300 per ton as against the offi­ tion that you will have to find from cial price of only Rs. 70 per ton. the State Governments. Apart from Because of this racket CIL has incur­ that the coal position is not as bad as red a loss of Rs. 370 crores over these it is envisaged by the hon'ble member. years including the last year. Whe­ ther is it also not a fact that industry fwim yiTR : as a whole is likely to incur a loss of Rs. 145 crores. (InterrupUOns)

Whether production target will be ^ ^ stv ^ I raised. * Whether distribution system will be rationalised to plug the loop­ holes. Whether buffer stock will be created. Whether a probe will be ^ t ?ftT ^ qr ordered to go into the depth of this big I— ^ racketeering. ^rr I ^ 1 5 0 0 ^ ^ i t SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN : Sir, fw 390 m i f, ^ the hon’ble Member has made a very I 1 500 ^ 25 long speech and is also agitated over ^ ’ITT TfT t I i t the reported shortage of coal. Most of his criticism refers to the distribu­ t, TK ^jnr\ ^77^ I I tion system. As regards distribution ^ 40 ^ w ^>72: system the Cental Government or ^ fTTrft- t I + H ^ CIL do not come in the picture. It is I ^ 5T ^ Sfftf ^ done by the State Governments or the t I ^ ^T?TT ^ ^ individual consumers. So, we do not appoint any agents to sell coal any­ ^ ^ WFfI- fm t where in the country. The only res­ ^ ?ft fT)T ^ ^ vrT?3r fiff ponsibility of the Coal Department is to fix a statutory price for the coal 5old at the pit-head and there «r«:w 52 5 is no control by us over the coal iTft ^ I « 6 7 Shortage of NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Exchange rate 268 cool (CA) betn?een Rupee and Rouble (St,) ^>iTT SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN : May be. When the Executive,Councillor of 7 0 the Metropolitan Council met me re­ ^ ^ «IFTT— 5TO I ^ cently, I assured him that immediate* ^ m ft qna;«^-rj>^i ly some rakes were being loaded and sent to Delhi and we are in constlint ^ WT^ ^ *f>T Tl^ J I ^ touch with railways. In regard to soft ^ ?TTc^^ I, ^ < 640 tro ’irrf^ coke and hard coke, all these problems ITT T| 5 200 I ^ will be sorted out. And about slack coal, there is no scarcity. The diffi­ ^ IX 4 5 tf ^ «TT# ^Tf^ ^ ^ culty may be because of movement ^ ^ 4 . 5 tf ^ I and haulage problems at sonie places. ^ ^TT^ ^ 25 Otherwise about slack coal there is no problem at alj in ttw country, Kvery- v^iRT ^

iiwCT ^ t ^ •T^ A 'flu'll -^i^dl g f% ^TTT ^PrfiMr^^l 12.33 hrs. ^ I srTi#7 ^ 'f ^ STATEMET RE: ESTABLISHMENT ^ Fft^ «FTcfr t ^ ^ *T^W ?TT OF A RATE OF EXCHANGE BET­ T| I ^ ^ ^ WEEN THE INDIAN RUPEE AND STPftfa^ ?T^ sV ^ T?ft I I THE ROUBLE ^ t ?ff ^ T ^ determined. Due to instability of ex­ nrft ^ iTTMct ^ I ^ ftfTOT »7T^ change rates which have characteris­ vft ipET «iiX ^ % *t>4h 36id f^?ro% ed the international monetary scene ^ ^ 0«M ^ ^T%, f^ET^t^vn* % for the last few years and the subse­ quent demonetisation of gold, gold ftW l ^ ST^rPTT ^ ^ ? ^TTT ^ V m i contents of various currencies have TRT RTV ^ ^Fft ^ I ?ftT ?T tr o ^ ^r^fV | | become increasingly irrelevant. Soon after December 20, 1971 when, fol­ SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN; I lowing the Smithsonian Agreement, a agree that Delhi’s demands have not rat^ of Rs. 18.9677 to 1 Pound Sterling been met fully. I concede that. And was aimounced by the Reserve Bank I also snentiomed in my statement that of India, the State Bank of the Union there is a shortfall in the production of Soviet Socialist Republics (GOS- of both hard coke and soft coke. BANK) announced what it twmed an “official exchange rate** of 1 Rouble— SHRI VUAY KUMAR MALHOT- Rs. 8.78. Since then, the GOSBANK RA. li is not 25 per cent. has been announcing changes in this 269 Exchange rate AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) between Rupee 27O and Rouble (St,y rate from time to time, and it cur­ designated in Roubles between the rently stands at 1 Rouble z=Rs. 11.76. USSR Bnd the B ^ b l i c of India. This rate is, however, applicable only to non-commercial transactions. This rate of exchange shall not apply to non-commercial transac­ tions which are understood as re­ In June 1974, the Soviet authorities lating exclusively to the mainte­ raised the question of establishing a nance exi>enses of the Embassy of more realistic exchange rate between India and other Indian organisa­ the two currencies for repayment of tions located in the USSR, remit­ Soviet credits and settlement of com­ tances between family members or mercial transactions between India other individuals and transactions of and the Soviet Union. Their conten­ Indian tourists and Indian delega­ tion was that the rate of Rs. 8.333— tions visiting the USSR; 1 Rouble was resulting in losses to the Soviet Union since 1972 and that ar­ (ii) the new exchange rate shall rangements should be made to com­ be subject to adjustment from time pensate them for these losses. to time depending on the changes in the value of the Rupee in terms of The Government of India and the a specified basket of currencies. This Government of the Union of the So­ adjustment, which may be made up­ viet Socialist Republics (USSR) have wards or downwards, will be effect­ had discussions since 1975 with a view ed only if such changes exceed 3 to establishing a new rate of exchange per cent either way. between the Rupee and the Rouble. (iii) repayments made in respect The Soviet side originally contended of past and existing credits upto the that the exchange rate between the date of signing of the Protocol at Rouble and the Rupee; as announced the old rate of exchange would be by the GOSBANK from time to time, considered as final. However, m could also be adopted for repayment respect of credit arrangements con­ Of Soviet credits and settlement of cluded on or after January 1, 1976 commercial transactions. The Indian which contain a specific clause stat­ side was of the view that since both ing that a new rate of exchange that the Rupee and the Rouble are non­ may be subsequently agreed upon convertible currencies, the new ex­ between the two Governments shall change rate had to be mutually agreed apply, the new rate of exchange between the two sides in the light of now agreed upon shall be appli­ all relevant facts. It was also the cable retrospectively from the date Indian stand that a new exchange of conclusion of such agreements. rate should not result in additional lia­ bilities on account of repayment of (iv) additional liabilities arising Soviet credits and that, if this was un. from the application of the new rate avoidable, the impact of such addi­ of exchange in respect of supplies tional liabilities should be minimal. made and services rendered upto the date of the Protocal under existing After protracted negotiations, the credits shall be constituted into a Government of India and the Govern­ 45—year interest—^free deferred ment of the USSR have, on November payment facility to be provided 25, 1978, signed a Protocol, the main by the Government of the USSR; features of which are: — and (i) with effect from the date of (v) in respect of contracts con­ signature of the protocol, an ex­ cluded between Indian private change rate of Rs. 10 to 1 Rouble parties and Soviet organisation! shall apply to the settlement of aU before the date of the protocol and existing and future credit arrange- which contain a go^i parity clause inents and commercial transactions or which are designated in Roubles, 271 Exchange rate NOVEMBER 27, 1978 272 between Rupee and Rouble (St,) [Shri H. M. Patel] nomic cooperation between ^le two countries. the application of the provisions of the Protocol to such contracts shall be a matter of agreement 12.40 hrs. between the contracting parties. SUGAR UNDERTAKINGS (TAKING OVER OF MANAGEMENT) BILL* It has also been agreed that while the Protocol does not imply that in THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ future all credits and commercial TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI transactions will necessarily be de­ SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): Sir, I signated only in Roubles, there is no beg to move for leave to introduce a intention to alter the present frame­ Bill to provide for the temporary tak­ work of payments arrangements bet­ ing over, in the public interest, of the ween India and the USSR under which management of certain sugar under­ settlement of commercial transactions takings in certain circumstances. and repayments of credits are made in MR. SPEAKER: There are two Indian Rupees through export of objections; but Mr. Saugata Roy is not Indian goods. here. Mr. Eduardo Faleiro. The Government of India consider SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor- that the provisions of the Protocol are mugao): I must oppose the introduc­ equitable and represent a fair com­ tion of this Bill; and the reason is that promise between the two sides. The this Bill is now going to provide for new exchange rate is a reasonable re­ take-over by the Government for a adjustment between the two curren­ period not exceeding 3 years. During cies considering the adjustments made this period, Government is going to between the Rupee and other major pump in crores of rupees to make the currencies. The Protocol also con­ sick mills healthy. And these mills tains an agreed built-in mechanism for belong to the sugar barons who form future adjustment in the exchange a lobby with thi^ Government. What rate so as to avoid recurrence of dis­ is going to happen? People who have putes in this matter. The interest- failed in their social obligations, who free 45-year deferred payment are the owners of sick mills, will get facility to be provided by the Govern­ after 3 years healthy mills which will ment of the USSR has a grant element appreciate in the interim period while of about 85 per cent. This facility the Government is pumping in money will cover about two-thirds of the to make their mills healthy. Govern­ additional liabilities arising from the ment is also giving them money as application of the new exchange rate compensation. I submit that ---- to future repayments of existing Soviet MR. SPEAKER: You can bring in credits. Another noteworthy feature an amendment. of the agreed Protocol is that repay­ ments already effected by us against SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: There past Soviet credits^at thp old rate of is an only alternative to this. It is exchange of 1 Rouble-Rs. 8!333 will nationalization of the sugar industry. be considered final and no extra So, either you nationalize the sugar liability will arise on this account. industry, or hand it over entirely to cooperatives. This measures is not The Government of India hope that necessary; it is bad; it is in the in­ the Protocol will smoothen the flow terests only of the sugar barons; and of trade and further strengthen eco- I oppose it. •Published ia Gazette of India Extraordinary Part II Section 2 dated 27-n-l«78. 273 Matters under AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) rul^ 377 274

MR. SPEAKER; The question is: of State Governments to increase the “That leave be granted to intro­ paddy price at over and above Rs. 100 duce a Bill to provide for the tem­ per quintal and fixed only Rs. 85 per porary taking over, in the public quintal. The FCI stopped purchasing interest, of the management of paddy in the States of Punjab and certain sugar undertakings in cer­ Haryana and opening of new centres tain circumstances.” of purchase in Andhra Pradesh. This is causing much hardship and a great The motion was adopted. financial loss to the paddy producers. I, therefore, request the Government SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA: to purchase all surplus paddy in these Sir, I introduce the Bill. And with States. your permission, I want to bring it to the notice of the House that sub-clause (i) Reported Encroachment by Bang ­ (2) of clause 8 of the Sugar Under­ ladesh Nationals on Reserved land in takings (Taking-over of Management) Barpeta sub -division of Assam Bill, 1978, which involves expenditure has not been printed in thick type or SHRI ISMAJl HOSSAIN KHAN in italics as required by the said sub­ (Barpeta); Sir, under rule' 377, I rule (2) although the Financial wish to raise the following matter; Memorandum contains a reference to the {baid sub-clause (2) of clause 3. I draw the attention of the hon'ble The other relevant provisions in the Home Minister to the news item in Bill which involve expenditure, have the local ‘Dainik Assam’, the highest been printed in thick type or in circulated Assamese daily, dated italics. 12-11-78 from Barpeta correspondent dated 11-11-78 that “Bangladesh nationals are induced to encroach'* reserve land in Gobindapur under STATEMENT RE, SUGAR UNDER­ Barpeta sub-division of Assam State TAKINGS (TAKING OVER OF by a Congress leader. It is also stated MANAGEMENT) ORDINANCE, 1978 that thousands of infiltrators have THE MINISTRY OF AGRICUL­ encroached into Konora, Chasara and TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Silosi reserves of Barpeta sub-division SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): Sir, I claiming themselves as river-eroded beg to lay on the Table an explana­ people. To the best of my information tory statement (Hindi and English and knowledege, as I have recently versions) giving reasons for imme­ visited the said area, thousands of diate legislation by the Sugar Under­ native people are rendered homeless takings (Taking Over of Manage­ every year due to erosion of the mighty ment) Ordinance, 1978. river Brahmaputra. 90 per cent of them belong to minority community. It is 12. 44 hrs. a fact that since several years Gov­ ernment totally failed to settle the MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 problem of river-eroded people in Assam, particularly in this area. As a (i) Rfported Low Price fixed by Gov ­ results of which thousands of people ernm ent FOR Paddy took shelter on the PWD roads, em­ SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU bankments and Government reserves. (Chittoor): Sir, under rule 377, I wish All of them are b07ia fide Indian to raise the following matter: citizens. Assam is a State where there is peaceful co-existence and communal The farmers are put to a great loss harmony among all classes of people. due to the low price fixed for paddy This news item has created a grave by the Government. The Government concern in the mind of river-eroded bas not accepted the recommendations minority community people because 275 Matters under NOVEMBER 27, 1978 rule 377 276

[Shri Ismail Hossain Khan] tion the following matter. A great there is a section of people who always calamity has befallen on the Salt try to create communal tension and labourers known as agrias in the harass the innocent people. There is Surendranagar District of Gujarat nobody to object to driving Bangladesh State during the last 10 days due to Nationals out of Indian soil. But it is unexpected, untimely rains amounting seen several times that some innocent to 4 to 6 inches during 12th and 13th Indian citizens are unnecessarily November, 1978, in the desert areas of harassed In the name of Bangladesh salt production, known as Patri-Khu- infiltration in this area. Therefore, I raghoda Zinzuwada area of Dasada appeal to the hon. Minister to appoint Taluka and Kundra-Halvad area of a high powered committee to enquire Dharangadhra Taluka. This calamity into the voracity of the news items so was more severe due to floods which that the innocent people are saved from brought water from Banas and Rupfen unncessary harassment and tension. rivers which end in the desert Necessary directions may also be Kutch, This brought good deal of issued to the state government for a miseries both in terms of hunger, cold permanent solution of the river-erosion and diseases and also financial losses problems of the people of Assam, parti­ to labourers since the loss in terms of cularly of Barpeta sub-division. washing away of salt, damage to well and water channels and entire loss t>f (iii) Sharp Spurt in Money Supply in household effects are to be borne by Current Financial Y ear labourers. DR. VASANT KUMAR PANDIT (Rajgarh): Under rule 377 I seek your Out of 12000 labourers, about 0 to'7 permission to bring a matter of urgent thousand labourers were stranded in public importance to the notice of this the desert, they could not come out, House. There is a sharp spurt in they had to be fed by throwing food money supply in the first and second packets by helicopter. About 5000 quarters of the current financial year families lost their tctal households^ showing an increase of 7.7 per cent. each having on an average, households The increase of net R.B.I. credit to worth Rs. 250 to Rs. 300/- and thereby the government, the consequent deficit the total damage amounting to about financing and the increase in the 12 to 15 lakhs of rupees. Moreover, in foreign exchange arrangements of the their salt fields, they lost salt, water banking sector are the major compo­ channels, salt water well, etc. which nents of this situation. Further huge loss also may be to the tune of Rs. 80 amount of liquidity in private hands to 100 lakhs, thereby- the total financial can set in motion a new amount of in­ loss may be an order of Rs. 110 lakhs. flation through speculative buying. The Besides about 5000 people had to steep rise in demand deposits with undergo hunger, cold, deprivation etc. banks is a disturbing trend. Short­ for about 10 days because from rail­ ages in cement, steel, coal and soda way station at Kharadhods, the manu­ ash have led to speculative buying and facturers of salt had to be away by has further driven up the prices in an about 30 KM due to the parapheri of unwanted manner. It is, therefore, very the radium of 10 miles given to Hin­ essential for the government to review dustan Salt Limited, which does not the entire situation and curb traders produce salt, nor does it allow others from disturbing the market trends. to produce—acting as a dog in the manger policy. This mistake of Gov­ (iv) Rjeported Hardship of Salt ernment’s policy has been pointed out Labourers in SuRENimANAGAR District a number of times in the last 30 years OF Gujarat due to Untimely Rains and more so, the present Prime Minis­ ter, the Minister of Industry both PROF. R. K. AMIN (Surendra- the Centre «nd also in the State hav® nagar); Under rule 377. I want to men­ realised and accepted this fact of non­ 277 Matters under AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) rule 377 278

justification of such a Parapheri given of deep regret to the people of Kerala to Hindustan Salt Ltd. in this area that no final decision has been taken which cause untold miseries to thou­ in this regard so far, because it grie­ sands of manufacturers of salt—most of vously affects the industrial belt of them work on co-operative basis. It Kerala, which is one of the most back­ should be noted that the Hindustan Salt . ward areas of the State. htirdly produces salt of about 8 to lO percent of the total salt production in The investment involved is extre­ this area. The aid given by the State mely small, compared to the magni­ Government is just meagre—not even tude of the Railways Works Budget, it 2 per cent of the total loss, incurred is only about Rs. 4.5 crores, and that is by labourers whije, for the last seve­ also spread over a period of three ral years, a special cess is being collec­ years, which is the time required for ted on salt from this area which re­ the construction of this line. The re­ mained almost unspent so far. turn from expected traffic is about 18.4 per cent, not taking into account It is, therefore, urged on the Central the large volume of traffic expected Government that at once a sum of from the new industries which are Rs. 50 lakhs be set apart to help the being set up in the region between labourers to rehabilitate—both in Emakulam and Alleppey subsequent to terms of their settlement and also for the preparation of this project report their production. Immediately this by the Southern Railways. If such monopoly of having parapheri be given additional traffic is also taken into ac­ up and small agarias and cooperative count, the return will be about 21 per mianufacturers be allowed to produce cent. salt in the parapheri areas. And thirdly roads be built up with a view The Government of Kerala is in to provirde a rOad connection and also correspondence with the Planning 10 to 15 tubewells be constructed to- Commission on the subject and it has provide drinking water in the entire also given all the clarifications. The area. This needs immediate action people of Kerala are greatly disap­ from Minister of Industry at the pointed that this new line was not in­ Centre; Salt Commissioner at Jaipur cluded in the railway budget for 1978- and the Government of Gujarat which 79, in spite of the good return expected looks after the immediate relief work. from that line. And in the light of the priority consideration given by the (v) Need for Construction of a Broad Government of India to employment Gauge Railw ^ay line from Ern .\kulam oriented projects, I should like to em­ TO Allerpey (Kerala ) phasize the fact that with the early SHRI V. M. SUDHEERAN (Allep- completion of the Ernakulam-Alleppey pey): Sir, with your permission, under line and the early coming into exis­ rule 377, I would like to invite the tence in the public sector three indust­ kind attention of this august House to ries, Alleppey would be offering jobs the demand of the people of Kerala for 3,000 people, involving an invest­ regarding the construction of a broad- ment of about Rs. 20 crores. Now the gauge railway line from Emakulam to land for the setting up of the State Alleppey. We strongly feel that justice sector industries has been acquired and is not being done to the State in this collaboration agreements are being en­ matter. tered into, involving preliminary ex­ penditure of considerable magnitude Even though the proposal to cons­ for the early setting up of these key truct a new broad-gauge railway line industries. All this is being done in between Emakulam and Alleppey has the firm hope that the Alleppey-Ema- been under the consideration of the kulam railway line will become a rea­ Railway Ministry and the Planning lity in the immediate future, without Commission since 1976, it is a matter which the functioning of these heavy 279 Matters under NOVEMBER 27, 1978 rule 377 280

[Shri V. M. Sudheevan] on this question but the answer was any way placed on the Table of the industries in this area will become House. I have maded it clear that we extremely difficult. Even for the cons­ are aware of the feelings of the people truction of the factory buildings for of Kerala on this subject, and we i^re these heavy indutries and the setting giving earnest consideration to this up of the plant and machinery the project in consultation with the Plan­ existence of this railway line for trans­ ning Commission, I have already told porting heavy building materials and them that we have made considerable plant and machinery will be necessary. progress as far as this line is con­ There are so many other major indust­ cerned. ries coming up in the AUeppey-Ema- kulam belt, which also are expected to provide a large number of jobs for the It is true that this 50 k.m. line would cost Rs. 4.88 crores, but because the educated unemployed youths of Kerala. Kerala G^emment has assured us In spite of the repeated represen­ free land and free sleepers, it will come tation from the people as well as the to enly Rs. 4.55 crores. The return is State Government and the MPs from also fairly good. Also, it will help the Kerala, the Railway Ministry has not development of the area in the south* conceded the demand for this railway and from all points of view it is really line so far. They have shifted the a favourable proposition. burden of decision to the Planning Commission, which seems to be wilful­ We are earnestly taking up the mat­ ly dilly-dallying with the matter. I ter with the Planning Commission and know that many railway projects we have made some progress. The costing much more and which will be matter has been discussed with the less profitable have been sanctioned, General Managers and we have al­ though this project has been kept ready formulated our works plans for shelved. That is why I am left left the coming year. Now we have only to persuade the Planning Commission. people of with no option but to resort to some step from November 29th, 1978 We are sure that if we follow the meth- to press the demand for the immediate ed of persuasion and not direct action sanction of the line and for making it will be possible to go ahead. Let adequate provision in the coming year. the matter be left to us. We will per­ suade the Planning Commission. (In­ I hope the House will appreciate the terruptions) spirit behind my statement. i would urge upon the hon. Prime Minister and Therefore, let me make it clear that the Railway Minister to intervene in We have allready made some progress. this matter so that this long-standing I am happy to tell you that in the demand of all sections of people in recent meeting of the General Mana­ Kerala can be met. gers addressed by the Prime Minister he also wanted the railways to give THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS very sympathetic consideration to this (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): Be­ proposition. We will take up the mat­ fore the hon. Member made the state­ ter and I would request the hon. Mem­ ment in the House, all the MPs. from ber not to resort to any direct action. Kerala, irrespective of their political affiliations, had met me. I have MR. SPEAKER: He did not say, you brought to their notice the fact that are imagining. At my request, he.has already the Railway Ministry is seized not said it. of the matter. 12.5 hrs. You may recall that on the 2lst instant I had replied to a Starred Ques- The Lok Sabha adjourned lor Lunch tion. There were no Supplementaries till Fourteen of the dock. 281 Employment of AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Children (Arndt.) 282 Bill The Lok Sabha re^assembled after concerned. But even if you punish lunch at ten minutes past Fourteen the employer, what happens to the of the Clock. child? Whether the children will be sent to school and he will receive any [Mr. Deputy-Spbaker in the Chair] educatioin has not been mentioned. .EMPLOYMENT OF CHILDREN Therefore, it seems to me that only the (AMENDMENT) BILL—Contd. provisions of Art. 24 have been taken note of, and Articles 39(f) and 45 have MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The House not been taken note of at all. will now take up further consideration of the following motion moved by Shri So far as Art. 39(f) is concerned, we Ravindra Varma on the 22nd Novem­ are happy to note that the Janata Gov­ ber, 1978, namely:— ernment as well as the Indira Cong­ ress are agreed as far as the provisions “That the Bill further to amend of Art. 39(f) go. But so far the pro­ the Employment of Children Act, visions of this Bill are concerned, 1938, as passed by Rajya Sabha, be there is no provision which provides taken into consideration.” Xor opportunities and facilities to develop the children in a healthy man­ SHRI GAWAI—not here, Shri Ram­ ner, with freedom and dignity. Where ble. has that been mentioned? It becomes illusory if a child is taken out of em­ SHRI B. C. KAMBLE (Bombay ployment but no education is received South-Central): Sir, so far as the pro- by him. \'isions of the Bill are concerned, there is no quarrel about them, but I am Similarly, with regard to primary afraid that the hon. Minister has not education, compulsory education is up taken an integrated view of child to the age of 14. Now it seems to me labour. At the outset i must say that that the children are losing education the policy should be changed: the policy fast. It is in the report of the Nation­ should be that of learning while earn­ al Labour Commission that, out of ing. Therefore, what I submit is that pity, certain children are allowed io the provision made in the Bill in this continue in service. So, I would suggest regard is merely negative: there is no that such of the children who are like­ provision with regard to education of ly to be retained should be given children. If children above the age of some training as apprentices in cer­ 15 years may be employed, what is tain centres. There should be a going to be the place of those below speci’al provision made for them. 15 years? My submission is that they Therefore, I would plead with the should be in schools. They should be Government that they should follow either in primary schools or in second­ a policy of ‘earning while learning'. ary schools: that is the place where They should make a provision for they should be. But this has not been learning also while a child make a taken note of. provision or learning also while a child above the age of 15 can e'Srn. According to the report of the Natio­ nal Labour Commission, it seems that With these words, I support the BilL the percentage of child labour is in­ creasing. It was 4 per cent in 1951, SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA MUR- ^ per cent in 1956 and, in 1961 it has THY (Amalapuram): At the outset, I fione up to 8 per cent which means would say, the Minister deserves cong­ that 8 per cent of the children are ratulations for having brought this Bill nlrnost illiterate. because the Bill is a step in the right direction as it is meant to cover the In so far as the provisions are con­ area of protection for the children who cerned, there is a provision made for seek employment. But unfortunately Punishment so far as the employer is the Bill is confined to the employment 283 Employment of NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Children (Arndt ) 2SU Bill [Shri Kusana Krishna Murthy] taken as bonded labour in our rural India. Besides UP., Madhya Pradesh of children in certain specified jobs in and Bihar, Andhra Pradesh happens to the organized sector only. It has com­ be one of the States where the illegal pletely left untouched the unorganized employment of children is existing Sector where the majority of the child­ more. One of the Committee’s report ren are employed. In fact we expect­ has emphasized the fact that one of the ed a comprehensive Bill prohibiting black spots of labour conditions in child labour below certain age and also Andhra Praddesh is the large-scale ille­ providing punitive measures in the Bill gal employment of children. Now, I against those who seek to exploit child would like to ask a specific question labour. whether this Bill is going to do any­ thing to prevent this situation in The Employment of Children Act Andhra Pradesh. Our children are the was enacted exactly 40 years ago that most misused and also the exploited is in 1938, covering a very limited area. lot of our population. We talk much Besides, there are several other Acts, about the future citizens of our count­ namely, the Factories Act, the Shops ry. We know that the future of our and Establishment Act, the Plantation country remains in the hands of the Labour Act, etc., specifying minimum children. Out of the 87 per cent of the pge for children for employment and rural child labour, 90 per cent is drawn also providing regulatory measures in from children belonging to the socially their working conditions. But, in spite disabled sections of our society, and of all these existing regulatory mea­ that is the reason why literacy is not sures, the number of children seeking at all improving as these children are employment for livelihood in our not taken care of the way in which country, as per the census report of they should be. We know a nation’s 1971, is as high as 10.7 million, and I progress always depends on the wel­ believe that this figure is absolutely in­ fare of the children and in this connec­ correct because the quantum of child tion I would like to remind this august labour cannot bg identified in rural House that Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru areas where they work as domestic has correctly said that “when a nation servants for a throwaway food and a moves forward, it marches the feet of little clothing and for nothing else. If her children.” But we never take any this part of the child labour is also serious action in this important matter. taken into consideration, the figure will This piece of legislation, I believe, has go up substantially. Besides this, the far-reaching consequences when com­ Census Report of 197i clearly em­ pared to your Constitutional amend­ phasizes the fact that 87 per cent of ments. But unless a comprehensive our nation’s child labour is existing in Bill prohibiting the employment of rural areas and that too in the unorga­ children below certain age is brought nized sector of our industry. We know forward, in our Indian conditions, it the unorganized sector, pretty well that does not serve any purpo.<^e at all. covers agricultural operations, live­ stock tending, plantations, stone-break­ We have a number of Children Wel­ ing. fisheries, etc. As per the National fare Boards at national level as also at Labour Commission’s report the condi­ State levels but they never take any tion of the child labour in the rural proper interest to conduct a survey to areas is absolutely misreable. This find out the glaring facts relate to ex­ BUI has not touched this very import­ ploitation of children, ^n this con­ ant aspect. Apart from this, there is nection the Government should have another field where the children are taken tho heln of the International beine misused. Children are exten­ ^-ahour Organization to conduct a sur­ sively utilised for organized begging in vey about the realities of the glaring places like Bom bay and other metrono- exploitation of children which would litan cilies. The chilldren are also have enabled the Government to bring aSs Employment of AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Children (Arndt.) 2S6 Bill about a comprehensive. Bill in this able because, as many hon. Members regard but I do not know why the pointed out, the chindren are the Minister is so much in a hurry to bring wealth of the nation. In any country, put this legislation, probably to have a at any time, it is incumbent on society leather in his cap in the ensuing Inter­ to ensure that the children of the national Children’s year. The Minister country have the fullest opportunities made a pertinent observation while in- to igrow in health, to grow in talents troducing this Bill that “our social and skills, and grow up as enlightened conditions and our social concience and able citizens who are competent will! save our children from the need to contribute to the totality of the eco­ to work for a living.” But the MiniSr nomic development, social develop­ ter is not unaware of the fact that our ment and cultural development in the existing social conditions which are country. It is, therefore, very essen­ ba^ed on only caste system and as long tial to ensure full protection, full op­ as that caste system continues to exist, portunities for development, full ap- I do not think anybody can expect portunities for education, and for self- any change in this social set up and expression, for the children of our social conditions. We know very well country. that unless there is a functional mobi­ lity in field of employment for a living Having said this, I must point out we cannot expect any change in our that as far as a piece of legislation is social set-up. This is an inter-linked concerned, it may be permissible to and intricate social problem of our excuse that piece of legislation if it is country. Ours is a society where cer­ specific and not encyclopaedic in its tain sections are meant for exclusively content. As hop. Members know, the certain kinds of menial works whereas welfare of children is a subject which other sections for better works. As long has to be dealt with by many Minis­ ns ^his goes on w e cannot expect any tries, by many voluntary organisations change in our social conscience and and by everybody in fact. This Bill, con rlit ions. as I made clear in the very beginning, is a very modest Bill which tries to Therefore, I strongly urge upon the deal only with one aspect of the situa­ Minister to take up this matter very tion as it exists to-day. seriously and bring forward a compre­ hensive Bill prohibiting employment of It was pointed out that in our coun­ chill ren below a certain age and also try many children are employed. My including specific punitive measures distinguished friend, Mr. Mavalankar afrainst those who seek to exploit child who is n o t only a professor but a stu­ labour at least in 1979 in which year dent-cum-professor did his home We are going to celebrate the Interna­ work, and told the House, that the tional Children’s Year. .surveys that had been conducted hard­ ly covered that specic question of the THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN­ employment of child labour as TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR well as other distinguished mem- , (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): I am bers on this side of the House poin­ indeed very grateful to the hon. Mem­ ted out that nearly 42 million children bers who have participated in the de­ are employed in various countries of bate on this very important Bill. the world, the vast majority of them You, Sir, must have observed that being in t^^ developing countries of all sections of the House were unani- the world. It was also pointed out iT^ous in supporting what the Bill con­ that in this country of ours about tains. If there were some observations more than 10 million children are em­ ^^hich reflected anprehensions or dis- ployed. ^^itisfaction, they referred not to what Now, when you say ‘they are em­ in the Bill, but what is not in the ployed*, one is sometimes likely not to and this, Sir, is quite understand­ understand the full import of the world 287 Employment of NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Children (Arndt,) 288 Bill [St|ri Ravindra Varma] SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: Conspicuous by his absence. ‘employed’. Children can be employed in many senses. They may be emp­ SHRI r a v in d r a VARMA: I can­ loyed by an outside employer in a fa­ not say ‘unfortunately conspicuous ctory or in an undertaking or an occu­ by his absence’. So I withdraw the pation. They may be employed in a word ‘unfortunately’ and I gladly sub­ family undertaking. They may be em- scribe to what my friend, Mr. Venka- employed to look after some of the tasubbaiah has pointed out—‘who is commitments of the family in some in­ conspicuous by his absence... dustrial activity or industry. All these are covered by the term ‘children SHRIMAT PARVATHI KRISHN- who are employed’ as my distinguish­ AN (); Conspicuous due ed friend pointed out. There is a dis­ to turban. tinction between children who are em­ ployed for wages, or for some kind SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I do not of recompense in cash or kind, and know what part of what attracts the children who contribute in lightening hon. Member's attention. May be the the labours of the family or their colour w’as attractive. It is generally parents. Even so. from the point red. Therefore, it delights the eyes of of view of the growth of the some hon. Members opposite. child, the development of the child, and assuring the future of the future SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHN- citizens of the country, it is absolutely AN: You hit the nail on the head. essential that we must ensure that poverty or ignorance or other econo­ MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The head mic or social disabilities do not com­ is protected by the turban pel parents to keep children away from school, do not provide incentives either SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I have to the family or to the child to keep already said that I cannot speak for away from where he belongs to at what attracts different people. that age as my hon. friend, Mr. K ri­ shna Murthy who spoke before me said, namely, the schools. But, Now, Sir, he suggested a very sim­ •as hon. Members pointed out, ple remedy which, other hon. friends, there are certain realities of the situ­ in one way or the other, have echoed, ation which we cannot ignore in our perhaps in a mufTed tone, that the country. In our country, the primary Government should bring forward le­ reason why children do not go to gislation declaring child labour ille­ school or do not remain in school or gal and seeing that child labour ceases parents are compelled to employ to exist. On the fact of it, at least in children in family occupations or send India, this is so simple a solution that children to factories or other kinds sometimes one forgets that it is a of employment, is poverty. There is simplistic solution. If one does en­ no doubt about this and it 'will be act a piece of that kind, it will not be a piece of legislation; it will be adding very difficult for us to say that this an Eleventh Commandment to the Ten poverty can be banished in a day, Commandments: that conditions can be created where child labour, as it is termed, can be “Thou shall not employ child abolished overnight. labour, And lo and behold: There will be no employment of child My distinguished friend, Mr. Bal- labour.” bir Singh who is unfortunately ab­ But, Sir, I submit to this House that sent to-day.... legislation is not only an expression ago Emplowment of AGRAIfAYANA 6, 1^00 (SAKA) Children (Arndt.) 290 Bill of an aspiration or a desire, but it has countries whose population is less also to take into account reality. Legi­ than 200 thou^nds.' Oiir country is slation must he feasible of enforce­ a vast country With all the social con* ment, capable of enforcement and it ditions that We are familiar with. should not result in increasing Therefore, to say that the legislation the hardship that it is meant must be extended to all our rural to remove. My distinguished friend. areas is something which can be said, Mr. Pabitra Mohan Pradhan—Mr. Pa- and should be said, but this is not bitra Mohan Pradhan with his enor­ practicable. Now we know that mous experience in the field of social children are mainly employed in farm work as well as administration- labour, flock-tending, in plantations, in pointed out (Interruptions) domestic services, in shops, handi­ crafts, small scale industries like biri rolling etc. AW these were referred to. I do not know why the hon. Mem­ My hon. friend, Shri [Mavalankar ber to-day is So found or names. I take also—I am not referring to him often names. The hon. Member wants to just because of the geographical posi­ call names. What I was saying was that my hon. friend, Shri Pabitra Mo­ tion where my eyes fall on him— han Pradhan, with his experience in pointed out that there is lack of in­ administration as well as in social formation or statistics on the condi­ work pointed out, and my distinguish- tions of labour, child labour employed friend, Shri Mavalankar also quoted in different sectors. from the report of an Institute which said ‘‘the abolition by law of this This is a lacuna; This is a defect in ler cent of our children hours conditions of the environment, are employed in the rural areas. Is opportunities for inspectinn of condi­ it being seriously suggested that in tion of health, opportunities for medical every village in this country, every attention, etc. Now, Sir, on the one household of this country, we can have hand We have, therefore, to eliminate machinery for inspection and certi­ child employment from hazardous fication of age and nenalties being en­ areas and on the other to regulate the forced? Is it possible to do that in this conditions of work in the areas of country to-day? Let us not compare work which are not hazardous. It is the conditions in this country with also necessary at the same time to en­ |hose obtaining in countries that can sure that at this tender age opportu­ De crossed in forty-flve minutes, with nities of education ^re provided to 3131 lA -lO . 291 Employment of NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Children (Arndt.) 292 Bill [Shri Ravinditi Varma] to include any new employment or our children. This is particularly nec­ occupation with in the pur­ essary bcause we cannot eliminate in­ view of the Schedule will be equality of opportunities without en­ vested in the State govern­ suring opportunities for education. ments. It is open to the State gov­ The distinguished member who spoke ernments, therefore, by ivrtue of on this referred to the fact that many Section 3 A of the existing Act to in­ children do not remain in schools be­ clude in the Schedule such new haz­ cause of poverty, etc. I know that the ardous occupations as the honourable Education Ministry is concerned with member referred to but if the Centre or this subject, but as this matter has the Parliament has to facilitate for been referred to, I must say that today inclusion of this in the Schedule then in this country, as hon’ble Members it has to be through an Act of Parlia­ are aware, 79 lakh cTiildren of school ment, and that cannot be brought for­ going age receive their mid-day meals. ward without consultation with the I understand that this number which States which have powers in this re­ relates to programmes taken up in co­ gard. Therefore, I do hope that my operation with CARE, is going to be in­ hon’ble friend will understand this and creased to a crore, and in not insist on his amendment in this addition there are schemes respect. There are other areas refer­ which the State governments have ta­ red to—both urban and semi-urban. ken up for the provision of mid-day Sir. hazardous occupations consist meals. So, more than one crore of not only of those in which there children will be provided with mid­ is risk of accidents and injuries, but also of those in which ex­ day meals, free uniforms and free text­ posure to a certain environment books merely to ensure that they re­ or the use of certain machineries main in school at tender age. may result in the erosion of health or I shall now go to the other aspects affect a certain organ of the child or of the question which my hon’ble the employee. That also constitutes a friends referred to, namely, the ques­ hazard. For example, particles of dust, tion of hazards. It was pointed out chemicals, dyes and many other things that the field of agriculture is not which were referred to, all of them without hazards. Actually every kind constitute in some manner or other, of occupation today, because of the hazards to something or the other con­ kinds of materials which we have to nected with the health of the child or deal with or because of the kinds the employee. Small Scale industries of machinery used or because of the are no exception in this regard. It processes that are involved include or would be wrong for us to think that involve some kinds of hazards. I do only the big mills and the big facto­ (not, therefore, deny for one moment ries pose threats to the health of the that hazards are making their inroads employees. My hon. friend Shrimati even into the field of agriculture. Jeyalakshmi pointed this out the other day—I am sorry she is not here; My hon’ble friend, Shri Rajagopal she made a very powerful and cogen­ Naidu made reference to the use of tly argued speech the other day. She threshers and the effects of thp use spoke in Tamil. I do not know whe­ of pesticides in the rural areas. He is ther in translation the effect of her right when he says these introduce a speech suffered; I don’t mean in any new hazard in the rural areas and in way to be derogatory to those who are the agricultural field but then his sug­ doing the very difficut task of interpre­ gestion was that we should, therefore tation. But I had the privilege to hear include this in this Tegislalion. I wish her on that day. And I must say this, to point out to him that according to ?snd T must t>ay a tnbute to the since­ the present Act Section 3 A of the Act rity, the authenticity with which sl^e clearly lays it down that the power referred to the diflBculties and the ha­ 293 Employment of AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 \SAKA) Children (Amdt) 294 Bill zards and the situation of children the State or by the Centre. Sir, it you who are employed in some of the have laws, but do not have an effec­ small-scale industries in her area, tive machinery for enforcement and namely, match manufacture. (Interru­ inspection, then, the laws will be there ption) Are you suggesting that T only on the statute-book, but the be­ should have said match-makinf:^? nefits will not reach the beneficiaries MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Not so for whom you legislate. Theltefore, early in the day. Sir, it is necessary to have a foolproof system of inspection when we legislate SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA; For my on this scale. hon. friend? Reference was also made to safety. I MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: For the am very glad that hon. members drew children. the attention of the House to aspects SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I thou­ of safety. I would like to say that ght^ Sir, you should have said, not too safety consists in the many steps that late for my hon. friend. I was talking we take to protect the health of em­ about match manufacture, manufac­ ployees, and insure against the effects ture of crackers, printing and dyes... of hazards as far as employees are concerned. This may consist of per­ AN HON. MEMBERS: It Ls too sonal protective equipments, or protec­ late'. .. tive gadgets, for certain machines like MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Too late, the thrashers^ to which my hon. friend he is right. referred to. SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I don’t I may also tell the House in this know whether this suggestion arises connection that there is a great deal from my Bill, Sir. In fact, it is onI.v of work being done in this regard-^ to protect children and not to throw research work and development work them into the lap of danger. Sir, my —by the Directorate-General of Facr hon. friend Shrimati Jeyalakshmi re­ lories and Labour Institutes under the ferred to these. Now, Sir, I quite agree Ministry of Labour. with her that these are hazardous oc­ cupations and that the conditions of Now, I think, I have covered the the children who are employed in question of Education to which niy these are not good. hon. friend referred. But, Sir, I would like to point out Then, my hon. friend Mr. Dave re­ to her that these are already there in ferred to the need for promoting the provisions of the Act. It is not that awareness of the law. Sir, he said these are not covered. In the list of that a survey in Bombay had disclos­ occupations and employment referred ed that many persons were unaware to in the parent Act you will find o f the existence of such laws. On the that these very things, including era* one hand, we say that ignorance of <^*kers, printing, match manufacture the law provides no one with any im-i etc., are included in Schedule A of the munity, but on the other hand, it is Bill. The responsibility for ensuring also true that if there is any large- the observance of the provisions of the scale unawareness o f the law, both o n Act, the enforcement of the provisions the part Of the beneficiaries and those ')f the Act rests with the State Gov- who are violating the law, then, we '-vnment. I am not trying to shirk have a situation in which laws again ^’esponsibility. I am only tryin(g to do not serve their purpose. Now, I do point this out that this is already not think that Bombay is an covered. unenlightened area. May be if my And here then I will go to my next hon. friend, Mr. Swamy, was here point, that is ,the necessity to ensure and some other hon. Members were effective inspection, whether it is by h ere.. .Mrs. Rangnekar is here. So, I Employment of NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Children (Amdtj 29^ Bill [Shri Ravindra Varma] is practicable, except in cases where a new convention has superseded an must say that Bombay is one of the old convention or an existing con­ most enllgbteDed parts of India. I vention has become a part of a new hope you have no objection. system of conventions, we have rati­ fied most of the conventions. SHRIMATI AHILYA P. RANGNE- KAR (Bombay North-Central): Of Lastly, 1 think I should refer to .course, not. the point made by my hon. friend, Mr. Kamble, and say that there is a SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA In distinction between Article 39(f) and spite of the fact that Bombay is one Article 24. My hon. friend is very of the enlightened parts, there is lack well-informed person. I know he €(t awareness in Bombay. feels for the poor and the down-tro­ dden. I would only submit that we SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: are not behind him, and in a sense, Kerala is also very enlightened. we are behind him in this thought ol SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: 1 his. Sir, he knows very well that Article 24 deals with a FundB- think it is not as enlightened as the mental Right. Article 39(f) dealh hon. Member’s constituency. I do not with a Directive Principle. Is i1 think in this respect Kerala can com­ necessary for me to hold forth in thi? pete with ifl cottltituency which is examplary in awareness. Otherwise, House on the distinction between the Directive Principles and Fundamental it would not have chosen my distin­ Rights? The Directive Principles by guished Mr. Pendikonda Venkata- their very character and nature are subbaiah as its representative. I men­ such that an element of gradualness is tion this only to .say that the role of combined with the delineation of voluntary associations or) organisa­ tions and trade Unions in promoting direction. That is why I said ‘Direc­ tive Principles’.. .Therefore, Sir, if awareness and in ensuring the en­ both are not on the same footing, forcement of the law is something while formulating a piece of legisla which cannot be overlooked. tion, it is not entirely ununderstand- Sir, a reference was made to I.L.O. able if we make a distinction between Conventions. Most of the I.L.O. Con­ them. Sir now let me turn to the ventions which relate to child labour International Children’s Year. It was where they can be validly brought pointed out by many hon. Members into force in our context have been that we are on the eve or on the accepted and ratified by our Govern­ threshold of the International Child' ment. But my hon. friend, Mr. Mava- ren’s Year. Sir, in this country, as my lankar, who referred to this as well hon. friends know^ a national Board as, I think, Mr. Sheth, and another has been set up to formulate a plan Member who spoke from this side, of action for the Children’s Year, and referred to the minimum age restric­ the Prime Minister himself is the tion in the I.L.O. Conventions. Sir, Chairman of this National Children’s the I.L.O. Conventions themselves Board. I understand that State Child­ do not stipulate a specific age as far ren's Boards have been set up in many as the developing countries are con­ of the States. cerned. Because ui the difficulties in jBetting up an administration for ins­ PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR pection, certification of age and pro­ (Gandhinagar): Not all. viding deterrant punishment, the I.L.O. Conventions themselves refer­ SHRI RAVINDRA VARMAj It is red to certain age-groups say, bet­ in the process. These Boards are dealt ween 14 and 17, etc. So whereever it with by the Education Ministry. My 207 Employment of AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) Children (Arndt) 298 Bill friend knows more about it than 1 was demanded by some hon. Mem­ know, being a Professor. But I en­ bers. I think, I have dealt with most tirely agree with the suggestion that of the points... the International Children’s Year should be an occasion for all Minis- PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: tries to think of what can be done for Why was the hon Minister not very the children of our country. So, as far clear about India not accepting the as the Ministry of Labour is concern­ ILO convention of 1976? Would he ed, it must in this year, pay attention kindly spell out his reasons for not to the condition of children who are doing so so far? employed, and find out means of minimising the employment of child SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: The labour and minimising the "hardships last convention on child labour was of children who are employed. not actually held in 1976; it was in 1973. I am afraid, there must have It is also a fact that forty years been some printer’s devil in the book­ have elapsed since the parent Act was let that you saw. In any case, I have passed by Parliament—it was passed already explained the factors that in 1938—and it ig a long time. We determine our ratification of conven­ have gone through many years and tions. I can assure the House that we have come a long way since then. wherever it is feasible under India’s Therefore, it is quite legitimate to say conditions, we will be the first to that the Government must have a ratify such conventions. good look at this entire thing... I think, I have already dealt with SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: most of the points made by the hoa. Broad look... Members and will appeal to the House to pass this Bill. SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I did not say ‘good looks’; why do you pro­ test? . . and bring forward a legisla­ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The tion which covers the entire area. I question is: would have readily used your phrase, ‘That the Bill further to amend the phrase which many hon. Members the Employment of Children Act, used, comprehensive legislation, but I 1938, as passed "by Rajya Sabha, be have some trepidation in using the taken into consideration.” adj ective ‘comprehensive’. Therefore, you will forgive me if I do not talk The Motion was adopted. of comprehensive legislation, but cer­ tainly I do promise that in this year, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We wiU we will have a thorough look at this now take up clause-by-clause consi­ field and bring forward such proposals deration. as we can bring forward. I agree with the proposal that was made, that Clause 2_(Amendment of section 3) we should set up a Committee. We will set up a national committee to SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU study the conditions of child labour (Chittoor): I beg to move: and the problems connnected with Page 1,— child labour, to make proposals to the Government on the action that should after line 19, in sert^ be taken, both in terms of legislative “(dd) connected with the work action and executive action. I would, to drive tractors or earth moving therefore like to inform the House machines; or” (1) that I will take steps immediately to set up a committee of this kind and The hon. Minister has s o u ^ t to in* also set up a special childrens cell a$ sert in Section 3 of the Act sub-clauses 299 Employment of NOVEMBER 27, 1978 Children (Arndt.) 3 0 0 Bin [Sim P, Kajagopal Naidu] nearest Centre for vocational training or the institute for ap­ (b), (c) and (d). I want to add my prentice, and if such Centre or amendment thereafter. The hon. institute is not there then to the Minister has brought his amendment nearest primary school for educa­ to include the railways. I have moved tion and being brought in healthy my amendment in order to include augarcane crushers, thrashers etc. manner and make a report to the These also come under the category of nearest Labour Officer accord- machinery. Why not include them? ingly’.’( 2) SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I have already answered this in the course I am moving this amendment mainly of my speech. I thought, my hon. with the purpose of getting some friend was here. I made a particular from the Minister on the point reference to this amendment, and I liat I am raising. This is an amend­ said that this deals with the agricul­ ment to the penal clause where the tural areas. The States can easily in­ employer will be penalized. The clude them because Section 3(a) em­ question iS; what will happen to the powers the States to do so. If we concerned child or children? Either want to do that, we have to consult they will be thrown out of employ­ the States and it is a long process. ment or, probably, they will be Therefore, I hope he will withdraw retained—in certain cases; but most the amendment. probably they will be thrown out of employment. If they are thrown out SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU; I of employment, and are not taken seek leave of the House to withdraw either in an educational institution or my amendment. in any employment the position will be worse. So, my amendment seeks The amendment was, by leave, 10 suggest that immediately after that, withdrawn. the child or children should be sent— MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; The i.e. forthwith—either to a certain edu­ question is: cational centre where there is training or apprenticeship given— or to a pri­ “That Clause 2 stand part of the mary educational institution. The BiU” question would be: what provision The Motion loas adopted. can be made for their accommoda­ tion? I suggest that in consultation Clause 2 was added to the Bill, with the Ministry of Education, steps ClaiLse 3 was added to the Bill, should be taken to strictly enforce the provisions with regard to primary Clause 4. —(Amendment of section 4) education. In case there are such MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now children, who are also employed, clause 4, Mr. Kamble. there might be night schools opened for them. If it is possible, there SHRI B. C. KAMBLE: I beg to should be some residential schools move:— where the children can receive edu­ cation as well as get accommodated Page 2,— in hostels. If this is not done, and after line 2 in sert^ if the provisions of clause 4 are im­ plemented, I am quite sure that a '(iii) the following shall be added large number of, millions of children at the end— will remain illiterate; and again illi­ “and the ®aid employer shall be teracy will be the cui»e inflicted on bound to send forthwith the con- the country, which will be a surer ^ cerned child or chirdren to the way to the loss of their freedom. 301 Employment of AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 {SAKA) Children (Arndt.) 302 Bill The hon. Minister had made a dis- —which is done illegally—then are we tinciion between Directive Principles to shed tears over the fact, that he and the Fundamental Rights. 1 would observes the law? but I can under­ like to tell him that so far as to-day’s stand the human aspect of this ques­ position of the Constitution is con- tion, i.e. it may dead to a situation eerned, Directive Principles have where those who have some means of precedence over Fundamental Rights. lincome, some additional means of in­ So, I would request the hon. Minister come to the families, may be without humbly not to make a distinction them. between the two, as they are to-day, but to see, in consultation with the 15.00 hrs. Education Ministry, that the children thrown out of employment receive That is why earlier on I referred to training and education. I am not go­ what my hon. friend Mr. Pradhan said; ing to press my amendment; but I that there may be occasions where an want to know the views of the Gov­ overnight legislation of this kind may ernment on this question. add to the hardships that some peo­ ple face. Mr. Kamble's solution was SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: My to suggest that there must !je some hon. friend talked of the supremacy way of ensuring that these children of the Directive Principles over the are sent either to apprenticeship Fundamental Rights. I do not want schools or to regular schools. As far to enter into a debate with him on the as apprenticeship institutions are con­ relative importance of these, either in cerned, there again is a question of age the Constitution or in theory. But and the requisite skill. A boy of 10 what I will try to tell him is that years or 9 who may be helping in some there is a distinction between the two job and ;.,etting Rs. 2 or Rs. 4 a week in this sense, that one is justiciable, may not necessarily be qualified or while the other is not. As far as eligible for admission to an apprentice­ Directive Principles are concerned, ship school. And as far as sending they signify an attempt to reconsile them compulsorily to primary schools is the necessity for a degree of gradual­ concerned, he himself referred to the ness with the necessity to delineate attendance problem, accommodation in the direction. This is what I said. I hostels, etc. So, these are problems think this has not been impugned by which have to be tackled, but not my hon. friend. necessarily included in this piece of legislation. I can tell him that I rais­ ed this matter with my hon. friend the He almost made it look as though Education Minister, and discussed there was a dilemma. If somebody these problems with him. I hope my employee child labour, then he should Hon. friend, Mr. Kamble will not press be punished. If he is punished for it, his amendment. then the children will not be employ­ ed. Thereore what shall we do? This seems to be the dilemma plaguing my SHRI C. KAMBLE: I do not press hon. friend. When you say that to my amendment. employ child labour is wrong, then I would like to ask him a question: if MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Has the you think it is wrong in law, then hon. Member leave of the House to should it be left without a penalty? withdraw his amendment? There has to be a penalty, if you make something illegal; and ^ the enforce­ SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes.. ment of that penalty means the non- employment of child labour by the The amendment was by leave, with^ person who Ig employing child labour dravm. 363 Motor vehicles NOVEMBER 27, 1978 (Arndt.) Bill 304

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The ques­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN­ tion is: CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI “That clauses 4 and 5 stand pan CHAND RAM): I beg to move: of the BiU.” “That the Bill further to amend The Motion was adopted. the Motor Vechicles Act, 1939. be taken into consideration.” Clauses 4 and 5 were added to the Bill Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and While moving this Bill for considera- the Title were added to the Bill. tion before this Honourable House, I v\'ish to sa y a few things by way of SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I \:>eg U amplification of purposes of this BilL move; In the beginning of 1976; the amending Bill was brought before this House to “That the Bill be passed.’* enable the Government to implement the policy regarding national permit. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Que? Again in July. 1977, another Bill was tion is: D rought before this House whereby certain amendments were effected mak­ “That the Bill be passed. in g punishment stringent for drunkard drivers. It also made wearing crash The Motion was adopted nelmets compulsory for drivers of two soater vehicles.

The purpose of this Bill had been explained in the Statement of Objects 15.03 hrs. and Reasons and I do not like to take MOTOR VEHICLES (AMENDMENT) more time of the House in amplify­ BILL. ing that. One promise was made by the Janata Party in the election mani­ MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Then there festo in 1977. On page 22 of that; is the Motor Vehicles (Amendment) under the heading, ‘New deal for Bill. Before the Minister moves it weaker sections’, itsays: I must mawe at least one remark, that is, I had been receiving amendments “It is a matter of deep shame that till this morning which is not good in ever after three decades of advent of oractice. According to the rules, they Independence, the social and econo­ should come at least one day before. mic conditions of the weaker Otherwise, we just cannot circulate sections of the society, particularly these amendments to the Members, the Scheduled Castes and Tribes, although an attempt has been made continue to be abject. They are today to circulate cyclostyled copies of still subject to many forms of dis­ the amendments. They have been cir­ crimination and have been victims of foul atrocities.” culated. In any case, in future, we will be very strict in case of amend­ ments and Members should be vigilant* In the next para, it says: about sending their amendments in “The Janata Party believes that time. As soon as the Bill is circulated the disparities that separate these they should send their amendments. members of society from the more Even the Government amendments educationally and economically have come only today. I think both advanced sections cannot be radi­ the Government and the Members cally reduced without a policy of should be vigilant about it and they special treatment in their favour. should send their amendments in time. It will accordinjgly provide ptefewtt- iiai op^rtunilies for educatiiwi Utld Mr. Mlixister. ^eif-eniployxiirat to theKe dection*.** 305 Motor vehicles AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) (Arndt) Bill 306 In 1962 a meeting _ .Minf^ers mically weaker sections. There has charge of welfare in the States was been much talk of g iv in g some kind called by the then Home Minister ol preferential treatment to those Shri Lai Bahadur Shastri and a deci­ people who are economically poor. sion was taken that if we wanted to There are people in society who are effectively improve the conditions of socially, educationally and economi­ the Scheduled Castes and Tribes, the cally backward. But only lip sympa­ state governments and the Central thy has been shown to these sections Government shall have to make reser­ and no tangible steps have been taken vations in the general sector also. to remove their backwardness. In There is a special sector meant for the Bill an attempt is being made to the members of the Scheduled Castes, see that these sections also get some the provision of funds, etc. The con­ Kind of preference or reservatiOM cession that are given are very limited. which may be decided by the State That is why the condition of these Governments. classes has not improved effectively. It v/as therefore decided that as There are other purposes of the Bill against the .special sector, the same also. For example we are going to principle erf reservation should be make some stringent punishment for applied in matters of divisible, in­ the offence of ticketless travel. To my dividual items where the government friends it may appear that we have machinery the state government or provided some strong action or the Central Government gives certain stringent measures—because we have ^)enefits to the society. provided a fine of Rs. 500 or ten times the fare whichever is less and that I am one of these who had been a may appear harsh to some of the hon Minister in the state government. I members. But in order to prevent have been very keen that the state ticketless travel, it is a necessary government should also provide for step. reservation in matters of divisible in- SHRI R. VENKATARAMAiN (Madras 'lividual benefits in the general sector. South): Whichever is less or more? But somehow the state governments have not been agreeing. Some state SHRI CHAND RAM: Rs. 500 is the governments did enact some pro­ maximum or ten times the value of visions. Andhra was one State, some fare. It means ‘less’. other states also took measures to see that certain reservations were made We are also making provision for in the matter of divisible, individual grant of separate licence for driving benefits. After coming to power, the buses and trucks. We are also pro­ Janata Party further passed a resolu­ viding to increase the period of tion in November 1977 that this prin­ validity of driving licences, other than ciple of reservation would be extended those of professionals, from three years to individual items also in the general to five years. sector. It is in pursuance of that resolution that this Bill had been • rought forward. Attempt has been made to ask the State Governments to prescribe mini­ As I said the main purpose of the mum educational qualifications for is to make reiservutions iJQ persons to whom licences tp drive—i.e. favour of the scheduled Castes transport licences—are issued. Jn the matte of national per- niits, public carriers, state carriage There are some consequential permits. This pilniciple of reser­ amendments also to which I will not vation and givmg beneit ig also like to dilate and touch. I hope the ^ rs of the economically poor section?, hon., ,mei;n^ers will give their un­ ».c. those sections Which are econo­ stinted support to this tiill. This BIU 307 Motor vehicles NOVEMBER 27. 1978 (Amdt.) Bill 308

[Shri Chand Ram] US for consideration. In the first place, the Railways have not been able is very simple and a non-controversial to carry the traffic that is offered in Bill. this country. Time and again, the 11 need be I will reply to the various House has very strongly and severely «5uggejtions and observations of the criticised the inability of the Railways bon. members. to carry goods particularly carry coal 'MB. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion to various parts of India, inability to rrovide transport for carrying salt niovi I: from to the north and “That the Bill lurther to amend several such complaints have emanat­ , the , 1939, be ed in this House. It should be the taken into consideration.” policy of road transport, therefore, to come to the aid of a proper distribu­ SHRI VINAYAK PRASAD YADAV tion system in this country whereby (Saharsa); I bei to move: shortages will not develop, not because ‘ “That the BiL be circulated for the there are shortages of goods but be­ purpose of eliciting opinion thereon cause th^re are shortages in trans­ •by the 5th January, 1979.” (22). port. It is a pity that when goods are available, certain parts of the country SHRI R. VENKATARAMAN (Mad- should be starving because the trans- ras South): The Motor Vehicles Act port is not able to fulfil its functions. was passed in 1939 and forty years The transDort is not able to do its duty have elapsed since then. If one takes to the country Therefore, the time this Act and tries to go through it, he has come when we should look upon will find it like a banyan tree, with so roud tran.-port as one of the essential many aeral roots consisting of hund­ transport system of t^is country and reds of amendments to this Act. It try to strengthen it so that it can is almost imposbit;ie for a person to function as another limb of transport get the correct position and the state organisation of the country and satisfy of the law. Since then it has been the needs. amended to often and so much that it has lost some of the original virtues it had. My first suggestion to the GrOv- Those who know the history of ernment, therefore, is that it is the Motor Vehicles Act know that the time that they brought forward a con­ regulation of road transport was under­ solidated amending Act, putting all taken very largely to prevent competi­ these things into a proper shape and tion between the road and the railways. re-examining the various aspects in In fact, the expression used was co­ relation to the issue of permits, the ordination between railways and road inter-State routes, the position of transport; it was more or less a for­ goods traflRc in relation to the inter­ mula used for the purpose of curbing state as well as the inter-State traffic the growth and development ol road and all matters like taxation, etc. in transport to enable the railways to one campass. survive and make profit. From those days we have travelled very far. Both The Government have appointed a railways and the roadways are not committee under Mr. B. D. Pande to able together to serve the needs of examine the transport policy. I hope, the country, and there are shortages Government will seriously take into In the country, because the two systems consideration the need lor revising even together are not able to fufll the the entire law in relation to the Motor transport needs of the country. There­ Vehicles Act. fore, road transport should be taken up on an urgent basis and developed I shall briefly touch one or two points without any reference to its impiict on because the whole Act is not before railways. 3Q9 Motnr vehicles AGR AHA Y AN A 6, 1900 (S AKA) (Arndt,) Bill 310

In the earlier years it was stated operations are not as profitable as the that transport over long distances long distance operations in the rural must be reserved for railways or the areas. road transport should not be allowed to take up these long distance traffic. In most of the cities and urban Therefore, the issue of permits was areas we have nationalised transport, regulated in such a way that the road L-ecause it serves the needs of the transport was under a handicap and public, irrespect of the profitability of it was not able to carry traffic over that particular undertaking. Unfortu­ long distances. The present position nately, now this principle has almost IS that the road transport has to be encouraged to take up long distance been given the go-by and the urge .for nationalisation of transport is slowly haulage and see that it serves the weakening. I would like the hon. needs of the public so that both the Minister to take up this question of railways and the road transport to- having more nationalised transport in '^erher are able to meet the needs. This the country, for the purpose of serving is my first suggestion and I hope the the needs of the people and this prin­ Transport Minister will give his ciple should receive a certain amount serious attention to this, because this ot Driority and also assistance from is very urgent. We should not go by the Planning Commission. the rut; we have been travelling on the rut too long we have got to see that the righful role of road transport, The third point which I would like more particularly in the field of trans­ to mention generally is the question of port of goods, is given all encourage­ vehicle availability. It is now found ment. that we are unable to get trucks and Qusas for our use. This country hab The second point I would like to gone through cycles of surpluses and emph-asize is that the nationalisation deficits. Hardly two years ago we are of road transport has received very told that there was a surplus of vehi­ scant attention in recent years. The cles in our country, that there was no object of nationalisation of road trans­ off-take and that the vehicle produc­ port was that regardless of profit­ tion must be cut down, but today the ability of any particular route or any position is that vehicles are not avail­ particular area, the nationalised units able. There is a premium on trucks would be able to discharge the func­ with all the attendant evils. Whenever tions of tarnsport, without taking into there is a shortage, there is a premium account the overall profitability as and black market. Therefore, though such. For instance, it is well known it is not within the Transport Ministry, that in suburban and urban traffic, the they should work in co-ordination with transport is not profitable. It is well- the Industries Ministry to anticipate known that the city operation of buses the rate of growth in traffic and the is not profitable. The reason is buses number of vehicles that would be in the rural areas operate over long needed, and on that basis plan the distances as much as 300 miles per production of commercial vehicles. If day, while the city and suburban buses we are going to have a policy of hand do not operate for more than 150 miles to mouth existence, just providing ^ day, because the city buses have con­ whatever the market would take at straints like road blocks, traffic lights, the moment, we are bound to go stoppage at every bus stop and so on. through the same cycle of shortages Therefore, it is not possible for a city resulting in black market, p«nnium bus to operate for more than 120 to 150 and all the misfortunes that afflict the ^iles a day. Therefore, when the country, followed by a certain period vehilcle utilisation becomes less, the of surplus and so on. Therefore, my profitability also goes down. So, it is suggestion is that there should bc ^ound that the city and suburban better co-ordination between the j l l Motor vehicles NOVEMBER 27, 1978 (Arndt.) Bill Ji2

[Shri R. Venkataraman] earning their livelihood as drivers are not affected by the new rule that we Transport Ministry and the Intuistries provide. Ministry with regard to the manufa ture of commercial vehicles so as to Then there is a new provision with have planned production to take care regard to registration of re-built of the needs of the country. ehicles. 1 do not know the Minister was cursory when he introduced the After making these preliminar> Bill, he did not refer to many of the observations. I w^uld like to refer to provisions. There are certain things the Bill. I welcome some of its pro which should be brought to the notice visions. For instance, the provision of the hon. members, even at the time for a separate licence for driving of consideration of the Bill, because trucks and for driving buses is wel- what we debate in the House and what coine. The kind of skill and experience Nve explain in the House may become as well as the trainings required for the guidelines for those who adminis­ driving these two vehicles differ, and ter and implement the legislation It is good we have in this Bill such later. So far as the rebuilt vehicles a provision. are concerned....

There is also a provision in the Bill SHRI CHAND RAM: They are ex­ for giving licences for driving private plained in the objects and reasons. vechiles as paid employees. Today the drivers of private vehicles need not take licence. It is enough if he SHRI R. VENKATARAMAN: I do has a owner-driver licence. This is a not know who drafted it. I am sorry, veiy salutarj- provision and I welcome I wish I could have commended it; it it. is not enough, it is very cursory and it (ioes not bring out the salient features of the Bill. Of course, the Bill con­ I also welcome the provision relat­ tains very many good points and it ing to educational qualifications in is for the Government to take credit respect of drivers, but I hope the tor some good points, although we are Minister will not say that the driver going to say that there are weaker must have passed the SSLC or some points. Well, that is beside the point. such examination. The qualification should be such that he is able to read My point is that a rebuilt vehicle, the road signs and understand the which is a cannibalised one—you take traffic regulations. He may be asked engine Irom somewhere, parts from to pass a test about such knowledge somewhere else and put them all to­ rather than pass the eight or tenth gether and than make it a vehicle, standard and the like. which We call in technical language a cannibalised vehicle—must be road Also I would like to caution because worthy. There is no provision, when when we introduce a new rule, we you say that a re-built vehicle register­ forget the difficulties of the existing ed, that it must be road worthy, whereas people. There are a number of drivers m the case oi other vehicles, they who are over 45 and 50 years of age. must be road tested and it must be If you say that those drivers must also approved. Before you grant an indus­ get the educational qualification, then trial licence, for a vehicle, the engine most of them will be deprived of their is 1 ut to a road test and it has to pa3S jobs and they will become unemploy­ through the test and it is only when ed. We have to make a provision in it is approved, it can be fitted in. The the rules that such a rule will not vehicle has to go through the road test apply to Derson^ who are over 45 years before it is apxuroved and th i^ only It of age, to that persons who are now can be marketed. In respect of the 313 ^otoT vehicles AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) (Amdt.) Bill 314

re-built vehicles, there is no such test, certificate and issue a new certificate* if we put these vehicles on the road There must be some adjudication as to without the test, they will surely be who was at fault. Sometimes it is not engines of destruction rather than of the companies which really advance trqnsport. In this case we should not money. Most of the trucks and buses go every liberally towards the rebuilt are financed by a class of people who vehicles and we have to take a lot of are professional and hereditar>' ('are in respect of the registration of money-lenders, do not want to men­ re built vehicles. tion any category of them because I do not want to offend anybody. It is Now you have suggested in the Bill well-known that a class of professional that w'hen the vehicle is transferred and hereditary money-lenders lend from one State to another a no-objec­ money for hire-purchase of trucks and tion certificate is to be obtained. So. buses and they seize these things at far so good. There will be no objec­ the slightest opportunity. They go to tion. You have also stated in the Bill the registration authority and say that that even in other transfers, intra- the registration certificate should be i.late transfer there should be a no cancelled and a new registration certi­ objection certificate. The reason in ficate should be issued. the case of the inter-State transfer is that a vehicle may be stolen Or the In the Bill, you have now provided taxes due thereon may not have been that if he goes and say that in the hire- p;iid. For the.se reasons, you must purchase agreement he has defaulted insist that a no-objection certificate and he has seized the vehicles, then, should be obtained. But when you without any adjudication as to who corne to intra-state transfer, why was at fault, whether the other person should there be a no-objection certi- has any objection or any reasons there lic^ate? Today, without any such certi for or any grounds for his case, as is^ ficate, by just filling up the forms by provided here, to the registering autho. the transferor and the transferee, the rity can cancel the registration certifi­ vehicles are transferred. But when you cate and issue a fresh certificate. say that you must get a no-objection Therefore, in the treatment of hire- certificate, it is going to be a hurdle purchase. I would urge that there in the way of smooth transfer intra- should be an adjudication as to who Stale. Therefore, I am going to oppose Was at fault, whether it was the bor­ fh{]t clause when it is put to vote. rower Or the lender. Then only, a fresh certificate should be issued.

As regards hire-purchase. I am sorry Lastly, I come to the provision for the amendment has just been circulat­ reservation of permits for the weaker ed, a few minutes back, and I have not sections. On principle, everybody will had the time to fully examine it. welcome it. Nobody will object to it. '^^re is a great deal of hardship Is it practicable. Are you really going caused, on the one side, by the un- to satisfy anybody of this class? A scruplous hire-purchasers and, on the bus today costs about Rs. l lakh, a other side, by the unscruplous lenders truck today costs about the same. who give money and take the vehicle. Which member of the weaker sections In each case, it depends on the facts of the society, which member of the of the case, in the Bill, you have Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled assumed that the fault lies always with Tribes would be able to invest this the purchaser. You have said that if much money and buy a vehicle for he does not deliver the certificate with­ himself? This will, definitely, lead to in time or as soon as the vehicle is only benami transactions. The per­ taken over then the transport authority sons who cannot afford really to put cancel the previous registration these vehicle on the road by paying 315 Motor vehicles NOVEMBER 27, 1978 (Arndt.) Bill 316

[Shri R. Venkataraman] this provison or deleting this clause. even an initial deposit will lend their 15.43 hrs. names and there will be great abuse On the contrary, I have a suggestion to make. We have now a provision that [Shrimati Paravathi Krishnan in the the cooperative societies must be given C/mir] a preference in the issue of permits It is in the Motor Vehicles Act. Pro> SHRI SHAMBHU NATH CHATUR- vision may be made ior the weaker sec­ VEDl (Agra): The importance of road tions of the society and the Scheduled transport needs no emphasis but at the Castes and Scheduled Tribes forming moment we find that it is in a state of cooperatives, to whom cooperative* complete anarchy. There is no sort of institutions may land money. Thert- discipline. The Administration has by, they will be enabled to run these not been able to give an efficient, buses. A more provision that the wea­ honest and expeditious transport to the ker sections of society or the Schedule( people. Castes and Scheduled Tribes will have Madam, here even in the capital city, preference in the matter of grant cl in regard to city transport, particularly permits will, in the ultimate analysis, the scooters, taxis and also buses, we lead to greater abuse rather than help find no dearth of complaints, both of those classes whom you want to help cheating and other malpractices. A visitor coming for the first time to Delhi finds himself completely at their Now, this is the most important pari mercy. of the Bill and. when I say this, it should not understood that I am in anyway against the provision. What Meters are set working from before I Say is that this provision will not and passengers are also taken by a really help the weaker sections or the circuitous route. Further, the metres Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes have no lights and, in the night, you can never know what exactly is the If you really want to help them, the fare that has been recorded. Thus the other way is to enable cooperatives being formed of these people. We public is cheated in every way. may put in a clause saying that coope Again, taxis and scooters freely ratives of weakers sections of the refuse to take passengers if it does not society and cooperatives of Scheduled suit them. They stand at the stands Castes and Scheduled Tribes will be but, stiD, when they are asked to go entitled to certain assistance. Instead along, they ask ‘What is your destina­ O f this preference, you can say that tion* and if the destination is not they will have preference over other distant enough or if it does not suit cooperatives. Even now in another their convenience, they refuse and one clause you have said that cooperatives is completely stranded, especially at will have a preference: you can put nights. In spite of the fact that this is in a clause saying that cooperatives of the capital city, such is the condition. Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes I do not know what impression the and of the weaker sections of society foreigners get when they come to this shall have a higher nriority over other city, because, as i said, cheating and cooperatives, in which case your obiec^ malpractices are so common that one will be fulfilled. As It li, this will not feels disgusted about them. No one is serve any purpose. They will become spared, but the outsiders and strangers mere name lenders. There will be an naturaUy suffer more. enormous number of ‘Benami’ trans­ actions and ultimately this will lead to Another difficulty which, of course, abuse and then you will come up with has nothing to do with this Bill Is an ameDding BiU either withdrawing about the goods transport. There ai^ 317 Motor vehicles AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 318

road-blocks at every stage in the shape please; nobody is bothered about them; of tax and octroi barriers. In the the result is that Government losei mofussil areas, this has become a very and the public suffers. So, the nation­ sore point. This prolongs the time alised transport is very good on, taken for the journey, at every stage paper, but in actual fact, I think, the you find the goods trucks standing in a private companies which are well or­ queue for an hour or two hours. There ganized work much better. Of course, is lot of corruption; money is passed there is the question of earning more and then they are allowed to go with­ profits. But that is a different matter. out paying the tax. Otherwise, they But if you make it as a monopoly, are harassed. So, all these matters then certainly things are bound to need to be attended to. deteriorate as they have done. This is the experience, i think, everywhere. In the mofussil towns, things are much worse. For example, in A^i a— With regard to the other provisions and in many other places a l s o — the of the Bill, as Mr. Venkataraman said, meters have been fixed, but nobody there has been a plethora of amend­ charges according to the meter. The ments and one is at a loss to find what meters are not worked at all, and is the correct position in any matter. charges for the jo'^rneys are some­ Here again, not only I would plead for times four times or even more, just consolidation but aiso for simplifica­ at the pieasure of the taxi or scooter tion. Here i will cite one or two inst­ driver. There is thus complete anar- ances how procedures have been made c'hy so far as the administration of more complicated. In our State of ihis Act is concerned. Uttar Pradesh, the State Government have made their own rules under In Vrjtes, there is over loading even which issuing of driving licence, rene­ Adhere the service is nationalised. 1 wal of driving licence and registration— think, the experience of the common all these have been concentrated at the Tian is that wherever a route is natio­ Divisional Headquarters. Now Ima­ nalised. the good points come into gine a man residing, say, in Mainpurl. /iow, only so long as the buses are He has to send his driving licence and now. but shortly thereafter, things re^if^trntion certificate to Agra for si art deteriorating. The buses which renewal and also take his vehicle for are run on roads in the rural areas and inspection. This used to be done at in the mofussil towns are not even the district headquarters previously properly cleaned, their maintenance i^^ by Gagetted Police officers. All these extremely poor, they exude fumes, the things need to be remedied. fumes come into the bus itself, and 1 dare say that the life of the conductor Again, in regard to the provisions in and the driver is shortened at least by this Bill about transfer ownership, as a few years. The ordinary passenger Mr. Venkataraman has pointed out, *^lso feels a heavy load on his chesi why should the State require a no- 'because of these fumes. As I was ob.iection certificate for Intra-State j^aying, the maintenance of the buses i^ transfers? My point is that even for extremely poor, they are full of rub­ inter-state transfers it should be the bish and dust. This is the condition duty of the registering authority to of the nationalised road transport that verify the antecedents of the vehicle We see in the countryside. Whenever or of the transferor and the transferee. is Supplemented by private buses Why should the onus be laid on the the preference of the ordinary passen­ person who is effecting the transfer? gers is or those private buses because This is a very ordinary matter, but it they are better maintained. Why this gives such a lot of trouble. It g iv es deterioration takes place is because of more and more opportunities for cor­ tnonopoly and absence of competition, ruption. Sometimes the Police report and the result 1b that things go as they is not coming and one has probably NOVEMBER 27, 1978 (Arndt.) Bill 330 J I 9 Motor uehicles [Shri Shambhu Nath Chaturvedi] a public driving licence. The only advantage conferred is that a private run about to get it expedited. Then the driving licence can be renewed for office itseU is delaying the report to years whereas a public driving licence the other registering authorities. All is renewed for only three years. 1 do these things happen and there is a lot not know whether it has a great ad~ of corruption. i would plead, you delete vantage. clause 29(A). H you want any sort of verification^ it should be done by MR. CHAIRMAN: You have made departmental officers. The transferor that point. You will kindly conclude and transferee should only be required now. There are large number of spea­ to inform the registering authority kers. that the transfer has taken place. Be­ SHRI SHAMBHU NATH CHATUR­ yond this there should be no obligation VEDI: 1 only plead with the hon t>n them. The verification should be Minister that those provisions should done by the registering authority itseU, be removed from this Bill as these will which has a very large office and staft only complicate matters. So, another lor the purpose. Here you put this Bill consolidating or rationalising the onus on the private individual who provisions should be brought forward has sold his car. What ofTence has he so that the people know where they committed for which he is penalised. stand in regard to those provisions 1 will plead for deletion of this clause Administration should be made more and the consequential amendments. I effective and more efficient. have given notice of some amendments but unfortunately, they were given MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ravi. late. 1 do not know whether they will be circulated or not. i will plead that SHRi VAYALAR RAVI (Chirayin- if you are anxious that the administra­ kil): Madam, Chairman, this is a good tion of this Bill should be more effica sign in the thinking of the hon. Minis­ tious and effective, then please see that ter that he would like to give more the individual owner of the vehicle is preference to the scheduled castes and scheduled tribes and ether weaker sec­ not put to unnecessary harassment and t&e provisions are simplified. Madam, tions of the society. He wants to re­ gulate the Act bv certain provisions Chairman, i will particularly empha­ sise that such provisions should be There are two to three points on deleted from the BilL Then, I fail to which we need clarifications. First oi understand why differentiation is made aU, the minister in his statement of ob between ‘goods vehicle’ or transport jects and reasons has clearly explained vehicle* when both types of vehicles that one of the major objectives is to are driven in the same manner? If give preference to the applicants be­ anybody is competent to drive one, he longing to the scheduled castes and Can easily drive the other. I can scheduled tribes as well as the society understand the distinction between a as a whole. But, Madam, Chairman, light and a heavy vehicle. But I fail here the provisions could be misused tb understand the difference between by the people who can afford to pay the goods and the passenger vehicle and purchase vehicles and apply for when both of them are heavy vehicles. the registration. There may be bena- mi names in regard to the scheduled These will only complicate the mat­ castes and tribes. I say that there ter and lead us nowhere. should be some other method to follow MR. CHAIRMAN: You will conclude this up. There is no nroper guidance now. given. Without that and without the proper financial assistance to these SHRI SHAMBHU NATH CHATUR- weaker sections, it is not possible to VEDI; The other difference made is implement your pious wish. That i^ between a private driving licence and the point I am making out. 321 Motor vehicles AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) (Amdt.) Bill 322

I would like to know from the hon. into it he will find not many persons Minister as to what are his proposals have been arrested under this provi- before him in that regard and how he iion. He will also find not many is going to implement this legislation licences have been cancelled on this so as to help the weak sections of the account. As f ir as my information society. Have you got any plan in goes only a very ncrmina] number of this regard? Otherwise this can be drivers have been punished on this misused by the people by putting in account It means that you have not applications in benami names or by been able to implement the law. giving more money for putting in their signatures. Some people who can afford 16 hrs. to p?iy will do that and individual Now, Madam Chairman, providing applications might be misused by put­ of educational qualifications will have ting them with the benami names. This some kind of thinking in their mind is my point number one. Secondly, about the value of human life and they as far as the assistance is concerned, will refrain from rash driving. It is we w?lcome this proposal to encourage a welcome feature that you are intro­ these people in forming the coopera­ ducing but you should not prescribe tive societies. My point is that you such qualifications that it may prove a , should ensure that the scheduled barrier for getting a driving licence. castes and schedul?d trii^es people get preference. My point is: they should Now, Madam Chairman, clauses 15 get preference in the matter over the and 16 say about the disqualification of other society. But. how is to be en­ a person and impounding of a driv­ sured? That is my point. I wish the ing licence. Clause 15(a) talks about minister to look into it habitual criminals and habitual drunk­ ards but, I believe, Billa and Ranga Then, there are other provisions still have licences. So, what is wanted about the punishment, that is, im­ is that 3^ou should give strict instruc­ pounding of the licence. You have tions to the State governments to mentioned that in the principal Act implement these provisions. My point also there is a provision about surren- is that you should make a specific pro­ fiered and cancellation of the licence. vision that if any person who has been Before coming to that, Mr. Venkatara- convicted under section 304A of the man was mentioning about the educa­ IPC, his licence will be cancelled. In tional qualification. I agree with him Moscow th e y have got a system where­ that no educational qualification of a by if you make one offence the traffic person should stand in anybody’s way constable makes one punch, if you who is unemployed, to learn the techni­ make a second offence then second calities of the driving and in getting a punch is made. On third puncli they licence and getting himself employed. cancel the driving licence automati­ At the same time, I a/?ree with the cally. So, here also we should not view that they must read and write take it lightly and if a person is con­ know about the traffic rules and victed under section 304A IPC there tegulations. Moreover they must have should be a provision that his licence some kind of value for the lives about will be cancelled automatically. Strict ^hich the rufTlans do not care. They punishment should be awarded to those never care for the pedestrians on the who are involved in rash accidents ^oads, and they never care for human that kill persons. Not only they Accidents are taking place at an should be imprisoned but their licences l^^arming rate in our country and there should be cancelled. Sections 72, 74, 16 to be no control. Although we and i24A only give nominal punish­ ^‘'^ve passed the Bill—it was piloted by ment. Section 72 says that State gov­ Prime Minister—that those found ernments may make some provision driving being drunk will be punished about limits of weight and limitations I am afraid, if the Minister looks on use. There are many more offen- ^131 L.S.~10. 3^3 Motor vehicles NOVEMBER 27, 1978 (Arndt.) Bill 324

[Shri Vayalar Ravi] I would even like to suggest to the ces. So, you Have to identify the hon. Minister: Why cannot you try this offences and also see that punishment for Delhi? Regarding Delhi Transport is incorporated. system, well, I cannot say, it is ineffi­ cient—I don’t want to make any sweep­ That is why Madam Chairman, j ing comment. I would say: Please urge upon the hon. Minister that have a look into the problem. may bring in more amendments next time, a not now, in this regard. MR. CHAIRMAN: Almost non- exist­ ent! I am sorry my time is limited and I cannot elaborate much. Madam Chair­ man, I would say a word about the SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Yes, Ma­ Delhi Transport, because, the hon. dam, almost non-existent! It is a real Minister is dealing with it. The Minis­ problem for the people concerned. You ter made a statement once upon a time have got to reorganise the whole sys­ that it is running at a loss. It is up tem. Merely going by the report of the to him to decide how to help the Delhi officers who are saying that it is run­ passengers with more road transport. ning at 18 crores loss and so on will You must have seen, Madam Chairman, not help you at all. You have to re­ a report which has appeared two days organise the whole system and you ago. It say that a century has been have to see that people are helped wasted by the Delhi citizens in waiting more and more. You have to see for the bus alone. It said that 2.8 mil­ what are the ways and means to do lion of Delhi passengers have been these things. You have to find them spending about a century time just in out. I don’t want to suggest anything, waiting for their buses. This is the but I only want to say this. If any­ problem here and this difficulty is being body calls the DTC bus as a death- faced by the commuters. They are warrant on the road, don’t get agitat­ facing this problem because the proper ed; don’t get angry. It is a fact. No­ organisation is just not there. body else can drive; nobody else is safe on the road. There is rash driving. Madam Chairman, you come from They never look at the traffic rules at Tamil Nadu and you know that 5 to 7 all. Please see that these traffic ru le s corporations have been formed for are implemented in Delhi not only by road transport in Tamil Nadu which the police but your own departmental have been running very efficiently. drivers. The drivers who resort to such , Nationalisation of road transport as rash driving should not be allowed to suggested by Mr. Venkataraman has these buses again. That is the strict been done very efficiently by the Tamil way with which you have to deal Nadu Government by forming these with it. You ask any passenger on the seven corporations. There is not one road. He will say, DTC is a death- corporation but there are seven corpo- warrant. This impression should go. ijations there which have been formed by the Tamil Nadu Government. They I conclude with these words, M ad am make them compete with each other. Chairman; I do not want to take m u ch They are all public sector corpora­ of the time. There have been com­ tions. This is where Kerala is suffer­ ments made about amendments and ing. There is only one corporation certain points which were made in the and We are suffering the loss. By course of speeches which must be ap creating different corporations you preciated. You have to see how it > make the people feel that nationalised properly implemented. With these transport is much better than the pri­ words, Madam Chairman, i conclude vate transport. That has been done by my speech and I support the Bill. the Tamil Nadu Government. Thank you. 325 Motor vehicles AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 326

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•The original speech was delivered in Tamil. 331 Motor vehicles NOVEMBER 27. 1978 (Arndt,) Bill 332

[Shri P. Thiagarajan] has also mentioned that the road transport is full corrupt practices, this amending Bill. This Bill is sought black-marketing, smuggling etc. This to be introduced for the purpose of also needs to be looked into by the plugging some loopholes in the parent hon. Minister of Transport. Act. At the very outset, while I wish to express my views, I would like to It must be stressed here that the refer what has been recently men­ octroi check-posts do hold up the tioned by the Prime Minister about transport inordinately and this leads road transport and its development. to many undesirable practices. The Centre seems to be keen in abolishing the octroi, but is conveniently silent Only two days back the Prime about supplementing the loss of reve­ Minister has stated that he has de­ nue to the States. manding the nationalisation of road transport from 1946, and if that is not I would also refer to the absence of done the interests of Railways will be provision in this Bill about paying jeopardised. If this is the view of compensation to the families of vic­ the Prime Minister, I am unable to tims of road accidents. It is really re­ appreciate the introduction of this grettable that while the families of amending Bill. Why should not the victims of Plane accidents, naval acci­ Central Government issue a directive dents and rail accidents get substan­ to the State Governments as is done tial sums of money as compensation, in many other matters, for imple­ the families of victims in road acci­ menting the views of the Prime Min­ dents do not get a single pie. The ister of the country? This is not a hon. Minister of Transport must look wayside remark of the Prime Minister. into this aspect also. Similarly, there He has made these remarks in liis must be insurance facility for the address to the Road Development goods transported through road. Coimcil. I don’t think that our Transport Minister can afford to brush There are still certain lacunae and aside the views at the Prime Minister. loopholes even in this amending Bill The Prime Minister has also stated about the number of drivers on all- that he is not in favour of allocating India routes, about their minimum more funds for road development. Here educational qualifications prescribed it is relevant to refer to certain statis­ tics furnished by the Central Govern­ for the drivers and also about the ment. provision in the parent for punishing the drunken drivers, as has been ef­ fectively put forth by my hon. col­ league Shri Ravi who preceded me. I If one unit is invested in the Roads, am sure that the hon. Minister of it will generate 100 job opportunities Transport will bring forward a conso­ and the same unit invested in the lidated Bill removing these deficien­ Railways and in the small industries cies. will generate only 19 and 17 job op­ portunities respectively. If Rs. 100 Before I conclude, I would refer to crores are invested in road develop­ the necessity of constructing the East ment, 5200 man-years will be obtain­ Coast Highway in Tamil Nadu, which ed—^this is the result of the study has got tremendous traffic potential. conducted by the Government. The The investment made in this highway road development has got the greatest will yield more than adequate revenue potential for generating employment to the Centre as also to the State of opportunitis in the country. It is in­ Tamil Nadu. explicable to me how these essential factors have been overlooked by the Before I conclude, I would reiterate Prime Minister. The Prime Minister that since the road transport and its Motor vehicles AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 334 ?33 development has got great potential truck drivers while coming from the for generating employment opportuni­ opposite direction, do not give an inch ties more funds must be allocated by to other vehicles and sometimes they t ij Central Government. With these —smaller ones—go to the left with few words, i conclude my speech. the result that the other vehicle does not have space on the road and some­ times even falls into the drain. A SHRI PABITRA MOHAN PRA- particular section of the drivers behave DHAN (Deogarh) : I rise to support like that. While coming from behind the Bill for the reason that it has they virtually thrust the smaller vehi­ the purpose to delegate certain po­ cle. So, there must be very strict rule wers to the State Governments for about it. the smooth running of the administra­ tion and the work. It has given pre­ ference to adivasies and harijans, the A good thing has been provided in weaker sections of the people, to serve the Bill that passangers, without ticket in the Department and also to own should be punished. I heard some hon. vehicles. Members saying that the poor people should be given some benefit in this matter. I think the poorest man, the The third is that some punishment most illiterate man, the most un-civi- is prescribed for the wrong-doers i.e. lised man knows that without a ticket those who travel in the buses and he canjiot travel in the bus or any other vehicles belonging to Govern­ other conveyance. So, I do not accept ment, without tickets. These are good that version of the hon. Member who points on which no one can have any pleads that the poor people have no dispute. But I find that there are some knowledge or money and so, they will lacunae also in the Bill. The main not buy tickets. If such permission thing is that the Bill is silent about the is given to them, then 50 per cent of mixed business that is, business by the people will travel without tickets the public sector meaning the Govern­ on the plea of poverty. ment on the one hand and the private sector on the other. There must be competition between the private sec­ Sometimes because of dearth of tor and the public sector. Without that tyres and tubes Government vehicles the public sector becomes monopolist do not run. This Department must and they behave in any ugly manner impress upon the Industrial Develop­ as they desire. So, there must be ment Department or the whole Gov­ both the sectors in business. We find ernment so that tyres and tubes are that the private sector manages better made available in adequate quantities than the public sector in many res­ in different parts of the country and pects. If there is competition and at cheaper rates. A truck tyre costs the private sector is making some pro­ Rs. 4,000 to 5,000 and sometimes in the fits and the public sector is not mak­ black even Rs. 6,000. How can the ing profits, then the public sector is country run its transport department to be denounced and it should be con- and make any profit, or any individual cJemned. So, there must be competi­ person owning any transport can run tion. them and make any profit so that the people in general can get the benefit of the increased transport? There is one point which may not cent per cent fit in this matter but ^his is a subject whixih should be dis­ I hope the Ministry will take note cussed here. There are so many acci­ of these suggstions and try to amelio­ dents by the motor vehicles. One thing rate the grievances and difficulties IS that the truck drivers do not give which both the people and the depart­ to the smaller vehicles. The ment are put to. 335 Motor vehicles NOVEMBER 27. 1978 (Arndt.) Bill 336

SHRI K. A. RAJAN (Trichur) : Because of the hazardous nature of Madam Chairman, the motor industry their work, their working hours should is fi vast and fast developing industry, be reduced. both in the fields of goods traffic as well as passenger traffic. It is a major industry in both the public sector and Coming to the reservation for the also private sector. The parent Act weaker sections, I welcome this idea. on this subject was enacted in 1939 But I would share the anxiety which and further amendments camo off and has been expressed by some bon. on, the last one being in 1976. Now Members as to how far this will really the Motor Vehicles (Amendment) be beneficial to the weaker sections in Bill, 1978 is before us for considera­ practice. We should ensure that tran­ tion. sactions do not take place sj that this benefit will really go to the weaker My first submission is, taking into sections. An ordinary motor vehiclc consideration the vast expansion of w’ill require an investment of more this industry and also the new techno­ than one lakh of rupees. Will it be logical improvements which have come pos ible for people belonging to the in regarding motor vehicles, Govern­ w’eaker sections to get that much of ment have to consider the various as­ finance to own a vehicle? In many pects and come forward with a com­ matters preference is given to co-ope­ prehensive Bill, which is in conformity ratives. In the same way, if there i'J with the new developments that have a cooperative of Scheduled Castes or taken place in this industry. Tribes running a transport service, it should be given preference and all Then I come to the implementation facilities so that this reservation can of this Act in the different States by really be effective, as contemplated in the various State Authorities. We tliis Act. have to see whether the provisions of the Act are properly implemented. The Drivers can man their vehicles effi­ actual state of affairs in these Autho­ ciently only if they have a proper rities is that they are steeped in cor­ knowledge of the mechanical devices ruption. It is an open secret that if of the new truci^s. So, I think the an ordinary individual wants to get a provision for separate driving licences permit, he has to approach everyone for trucks and buses is a good one. in that Authority and grease their palm. It is even said that there is a Regarding minimum educational scheduled rate from top to bottom. qualifications, it should not be stipu­ People are in difficulties because in the lated that a driver should possess a Transport Authority nothing will move particular academic qualificaiion for without the payment of money. Unless running a vehicle. It should be enough you streamline the organisation and if he has primary knowledge of the see that corruption is rooted out, I do vehicles and traffic rules and is able not know how the implementation of to read and write. Otherwise, it will be the provisions of this Act can ever be to the serious disadvantage of those successful. in service and those aspiring for em- pioyment as drivers. There are lakhs of workers v/ho are manning these vehicles, whether goods I personally feel that the provision or passenger. After the advant of the for a no-objection certificate by the new types of vehicles and the increase transferor or owner of the motor in tonnage and the speed of the vehi­ vehicle from the registering authority cles, there is every justification for re­ should remain, because unless some duction in the hours of work. But Kort of authority is there to show that nOw the man on the wheel has to work it has been transferred, the workers for hours together in the national will not be able to maintain their highwfjj's which are heavily congested. claims. 3:^7 vehicles AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 338

VT WT fro ^rm ^-—aH Awm uf^ifsr wpnAv ^ ift ^ *?T TOT ^lljf finT prf^^nfiTirli opportunity to seek an important and fft ^ ^ » q«-f^ timely clarification from the Govern­ f. ptj[ ^ ^ifVt ment on an important aspect of the ^^f?T *rnr ^ ^ Transport Policy. The truck opera­ wTi^m }i 11! VTii ^ Fhmfirhr tors are agitated. Today, itself there 9R\i mu %i\x VTVTTt ?r>T T ^ V fro Now after seeking this clarification vmrm fro t ‘ tNfh ^ wrq m jrR from the Government we may exa­ m \ iTTO 1^ wfijwrrfoft % ^ »W mine a few provisions of the Bill. fro ^ \ fin ^ >R|fV TW ITWfH ^ ? JTtt ^ ff> ITR IF Wt^ W MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Banatwalla, —?nfv nftlFTX^ ^Ttw ^ f ^ RTfiR ness to go through. So, I would suggest vt ITC ^ Fir that we extend the time by not more 339 Motor vehicles NOVEMBER 27, 1978 (Arndt.) Bill 340

LMr. Chairman] Scheduled I'ribes in granting permits, it will not be compulsory for the State than half an hour. The Minister will Governments to provide for any reser­ require about 25 minutes. vation or preference in the case of persons belonging to economically SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY (Dhar- weaker sections of the society. This is mapuri) : I suggest that the time be ..1 unfortunate differentiation. The extended by one hour. iion. Minister while piloting tne Bill MR. CHAIRMAN: At half past five said that only lip-sympathy is being paid to the plight of people belonging there is an half-an-hour discussion. If to the economically weaker-sections of we extend it by one hour, then it will the society. But he has also kept him­ continue tomorrow. Is it the pleasure self open to this charge. A very half­ of the House that we extend the time by one hour? hearted sympathetic treatment has been given out to the economically SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS : Yes. weaker sections of the society. I plead that even in the case of economically MR. CHAIRMAN : But I would re­ weaker sections of the society, it quest all the speakers to cooperate be­ should be incumbent and compulsory cause the Minister will require about upon the States to provide for reser­ 25 minutes, since there are some vation or preferential treatment in tne amendments to go through, it will con­ matter of giving permits, etc. The tinue tomorrow. Now, Mr. Banatwalla, differentiation betwee the two sections you can continue. of our society, namely, Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes on the one hand and the economically weaker 17.00 hrs. sections on the other hand should be [Shri Dhirendranath Basu in the wiped out. Chair] There is another differentiation with SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA : There respect to the period of validity of is a welcome provision in the Bill for driving licence. This period is sought reservation for Scheduled Castes and to be increased to five years. But in Scheduled Tribes and for preference the case of paid drivers or drivers of to persons belonging to economically transport vehicles, the period is main­ weaker sections of the society ___ tained at three years. There is no jus­ tification whatsoever for such' a diffe­ rentiation. I am afraid, this merely SHRI CHAND RAM: I will not be a rids to the harassment of the poorer here tomorrow. It will be better if it people, namely, paid drivers or dri­ could be finished today. vers Of transport vehicles. MR. CHAIRMAN: The time has Then, clause 5 of the Bill also sti­ been extended by one hour. There is pulates that those who intend to drive a Half-An-Hour discussion at 5.30 private vehicles as paid employees P.M. So, it will not be possible to should also obtain proper licence and finish it today. Then, it will be taken the State Governments may put cer­ up on the following day, that is, on tain restrictions and have regulations the 29th. for the purpose. This, again, is an un­ desirable aspect of this particular SHRI CHAND RAM : It is all right. Bill. I do not understand why this SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA : It is, provision has been made. We all know however, a matter of regret that a dif­ from our experience: take, for exam­ ferential treatment has been sought to ple, the case of a person who applies be meted out in the matter of reserva­ for a taxi badge or for a permit as taxi- tion. While it will be incumbent upon driver. You know how much of ha­ the States to compulsorily provide for rassment and corruption there is in reservation for Scheduled Castes and .he issue of taxi badges or taxi-driving Motor vehicles AGRAHAYANA 6, 1900 (SAKA) (Amdt.) Bill 342 341 licences. And now, Sir, we are open­ TTH • 1939 ifteT ing a new door, as far as the so-called H PfWT m Tp ^ I ^ ^ 1 private paid employees are concern­ g I ^ ftfRT i ed—a new door for harassment and ^ ffhn ^ I wic corruption, without gaining anything ^ pIfi ^ I 5^ in this particular matter. Therefore, I feel that such persons who take licen­ jrPTBrrr i ces with the intention of driving pri­ vate vehicles as paid employees need not be subjected to the further har- WTcT ^ ftFT ^5 rassment of being required to have a ^nfkrft ^r<'STH specific driving licence for the purpose. OTiH fv vrjR TRT w ii vnr I may conclude by referring to an­ ^ TO TK fTTRT ^ Wtr other important provision that is ^ ^ ifT?f ^ sought to be made in this particular wtr fH T ^ ^ wmrnft v r point by a concrete example. In rft ^3^ ^ Bombay, if a person applies for a driv­ ing licence to drive a taxi, he is com­ TO # ?T ^ f*F ira mix pulsorily required to have a proper 5RVt ^ ?TTH ^ knowledge of Marathi. I submit that Wkl00,100m200,200 this insistance upon a proper know­ ^ HTTT W5TTO fTO ledge of any particular language is a nj^ H>T I ^ fx^^ discrimination against the linguistic ^ KM vpnr VT minorities in the particular State. 5T> ^rfrsR qK ^ Therefore, while any such type of mi­ ipTTV ^ ’FT H friMi nimum educational qualifications is c’ompulsorily laid down, the require­ ^Itid HVrft ^ I ment of knowledge of a particular language must be avoided. As it is, in the case of Bombay, the matter was 500 ^ vV TO I, mi IfV even referred by the linguistic mino­ ^ I fcRT ijtHT Pf» «T5t ^ ihx TOVT rities to the Commissioner for Lingu­ lift ^ h r m fvrrm istic Minorities, but there was no im­ provement in the situation. I there­ m*Mqt ^!TT ^t»TT I im ft fTTO ^ ^ ^ «fh: fore hope thlat, while implementing ^ ^*t^ ^ n f^ , nWt d rise the State Government to impose TOH I minimum educational qualifica­ tions, necessary safeguards should be IRTTVi ^ 4>HH KTT $ fip fTpfT ipulated to see that there is no dis­ mw

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^ M i t t in fR ^mr#*T ^ ^ ^t^ft ^rf^, K>^ f ...... ^ ^Tf^, ^ ^ Ptwwt ^ rf^ I f i^ IT? OT ^ ftptr frtr ^ tTff invfhi w w ' w ?ft ^ i ^ ^»fV^ A mriFTT ^ ft: ^ ^PTT 5?ft ^m5t f i r ^ fftr vh : f^TTR ^ ft ?ft «fh: ^srrr^ ^ ^ W^ ffiNt cT^ ^ ift fWfr^ |[ ^ \ «tVt ipnff 5^ ^ ^ ^ft ?TT ITFnft, ?HT^ ' 4t ^ ^ I i . ^ TO ^ TTsrnr 'rr?rr 1 . . . (wmsrTiT) ...... TT t 1 ?T?r m ^ f^ 1T5T qrtT ^ ?fr ^ 'TPl’HT SHRI B. C. KAMBLE (Bombay ?t\t ^wnw^T ify irm ^ ^rrr South Central): Mr. Chairman, Sir, ?TT T^ JTT? ^ft while I would like lo congratulate the jfFT'^r ?tt1% ?rnT ^ ?tt 'ft 1 sm r hon., Minister for the notable provi­ 5T^?lT J I ’^TTF^ t % ?T?T sions in this Bill, especially, those per­ ^ wit »T^ f^ricfY I taining to the hire purchase as well as the periodicity of it which is exten­ ^?T n frr ?nTf ded and on the appointment of Chair­ r^77 W HR 51^ ^?TT W ^ T^ § ' ^ ^ man—Clause, 20 of the Bill—I would w» f^TT TnvjiIH 4i^n '*[*'A” ^ I irnr like to suggest to the Minister and to the ?m ^ f^nriWf ^ fft Government that the importance of ^ jrsTTTf ?rnjf spfVf^ ^ ^ road transport is going to increase f^r>nt ^'r ^ iTffT 2nft 'ft?2pr?T ttt very much in this country because the f ^ \ r ^ ift jft^T ^TPT P: ^ railway lines are limited. t ^ ^ ^ ’BTFR- ^ #, wrmr f 1 ?fr ?mr ^ 6 ^T»T ^ ^TT ^tZT ^TT % fTTT Therefore, a stage would come when ftfrr ITTft^ I ^ TO the road transport will have to be co­ "SrT^TfT ?T^ TO” ^ TIHj[d ^TTfT mpletely nationalised, if not to-day, i»r^f ^ q^T m^'i ^ \ ^irf^ ^ mT at least tomorrow because it is of na­ ’5ft t^\k% ^ «Ft t^TT ^ ^rf^ I . . . tional importance. There are many (Wl^tlH) ...... A ^ ^ !TR?r ^FTR ^ ^ passengers who, prefer to travel by ?fV7 ? HfW ^ ^ inrft ^ 1 road rather than by rail. Therefore, ifr rr^w!u ^ ^ f^ jft^^ ^ f ^ w^ road transport is of national impor­ ^ 11 vtf ^rV ^ UTTT ^ »T>^'r q t^ ^ tance. This is my first submission. TJ ^ ?TFT ?T>FT Ht fHT ^ ^ ^ JT^TT f% nf»fr ^T?r Pr^TRt ^ «HR ^ fkvrm ?ft «FT^ ^ ^ My second submission is that cer­ 5f»T ^ ?HT^ ^ ^ q r r ^ I tain speeches have been made in this House welcoming the provision for re­ servation of licences for scheduled ^?T%7t 5Trf ^T^?TT |T ftP ^ T T f^ castes and scheduled tribes and econo­ ^ if f ^ ff)5Tt ‘3TT1^ mically weaker sections. An apprehen­ TTTT^ 1?y, To ^ «T:T^ iRTPTT sion has been expressed about its ap­ ^ «inir jpn iftrr & f% ^ plicability. On that point, I would Tike ^ VTlrf^ to suggest that under the Constitution ^ TR % ftftjr Fmrrr, 55^ «ftr there is no community recognised as I ^rrf^ 1 economically backward, scheduled ca­ ^ ^ ^rrf^ fv mrfhrft ^ stes, scheduled tribes, backward clas­ ^ ^ ^STRrrr I ?TT 5T^, f T?f%^ W T ^ ^ ses and weaker sections are the four ^srR5!TT t m ^jrmr t 1 f , TT^ ^ m r ^ w ^ ^ fr>T ^ classes which are recognised by the ^ ^ ^ I’, ift ?=rm ^ mr^ Constitution. Economically backward I ^ ^ ifNnr ^ t VT I ^ class is not recognised. Such a con­ ^ f , ^ T T ^ ^5t¥5TT cept is new to our Constitution. No ^ Tnm ^tiiTT ^ ?rr wjW f% doubt, there is socially and education­ *TT^ ally backward class recognised in the ^ ^ ft imr I fft ^ irt ^ ^ ^ Con stitution. For that you can make a provision. I would like to suggest to 347 Motor vehicles NOVEMBER 27, 1978 (Arndt.) Bill 34^5

[Shri B. C. Kamble] been cheated. If in the motor-vehi- cles accidents claim tribunals the regi­ the hon’ble Minister not to get deter­ strars are promoted as presiding of­ red by the apprehension expressed; ficers then so many difficulties will otherwise how will you be able to im­ get resolved. I am a practising law­ plement it. I want to congratulate yer and I know how many petitions the Minister that he hias the courage have got accumulated. If the hon’ble to implement this provision. Now, Minister makes necessary provision there are two methods to implement in this regard it will be a welcome this. Firstly, having made the provi­ feature. With these words I commend sion you must establish a develop­ ^end support the Bill. ment fund for the scheduled castes' and scheduled tribes. MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Durga SHRI CHAND RAM: How can it Chand. be done here. It is a State subject. fft yrri fF? SHRI B. C. KAMBLE: Either you ^ ^ ft—^ ^ try for such a fund or make use o ^ ^ t, piFT V ^ 3nFfm the provision under Clause 24 which relates to Indian tourism development ^ I ...... or State tourism development and through these two agencies you can MR. CHAIRMAN: The hon. Minister implement the provisions which are will reply on the 29th in the first hour... made for reservation of licences to scheduled castes and scheduled tribes. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF Mr. Chairman, my third point is SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI that you delete the provision with re­ CHAND RAM); According to the Par­ gard to educational qualificationss be­ liamentary Affairs Minister, it is very cause it is likely to be mis-interpre- difficult on the 29th. There is another ted. You may prescribe certain mi­ business fixed regarding flood relief nimum requirements to be fulfilled in­ discussion. stead of making provision in terms of educational qualifications. Then some MR. CHAIRMAN: He will take ab­ provision should be made in order to out ha1f-an-hour or 49 minutes and not make the travel of the passengers more than that. In the first hour, ev­ safe, comfortable and for that there erybody will be present. should be enough number of vehi­ cles and good roads. Today the posi­ tion even in the Capital is that the SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH (Nandyal): You will have better au­ passengers are huddled like animals dience! in the buses. Therefore, the number of vehicles should be increased and also the roads should be made wider. inf The passengers who have paid you sufficient revenue—even for more than your investment—their travel should — ^ ^ ^ >d6l I be made more safe^ dignified and com­ ^ ^ ^ I—^ 'TT ^ ^ fortable. V77TT xTrf^ I ^ JTT Finally, I must congratulate the Mi­ nister for having brought the provi­ ^rtXT, TOT *T ^ «M

^ €VpTT ^ ^Tf^ 5TT^ 5TFft3?^ *|fr «fTT ^ ftr ?TRr 3Fnr ^ yrr v f i r ^ ^t1 ^ f% t y^ldlVH # iTR I ITFT ^ ^ I ir ^ qjR^rr ^ f^<4 Vft ^ f; rTTl% ?tTr t ?tVt wt^tr % ^sr^TT# ^ ?nrn ^ 1 OT inm ^ ^ qjpKT qi=^ iftr ^r^tr ^ Trf?nft ^ TTf^ V ^nrR ^ ^ %TT^ ^ jtw tt eft ^ ^ ^ 5ir^ 5T^ t I qftrfVNnitil q j ^ ^ TO I ?Tf3r f3T?r^ ^ncTt^sr^r f, ^rrrtT^rr^ 5r^9T ^TFTtt ^m ^in’^T «Pt ^ ^ — MR. CHAIRMAN: If the House agrees, we can extend the time by half-an-hour so that the Minister may ^ fwnr ^ ^—WT sflH reply to the discussion and thereafter, ^ rfr ^ ^ ^ ^ We take up the half-an-hour discus­ r^TfiftrTfv ^ ^?JT sion. ^ f?T#»lT—^i%?T^-K ^ ^ SHRi A. R. BADRI NARAYAN (Shimoga): The discussion on this Bill 1^ ^fytf ^ ^grnvns- can continue tomarrow. It was already decided by your predecessor. iTT^r ^ f^=!T ^ t, 5T W^X MR. CHAIRMAN: The Minister will ^r '^jFTxr ^r=rr ? ?fy^: ^ :;r-T^r ^>?tt not be here tomorrow. ^ I WUT^ I rTf: ^ ^FFqVcft- W?T ^ ^ ^ ^FTtTT ^ '+)N'5l ^ ?T^FTT SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: This is not an Ordinance, which you have to I 5T I q-^ 5ft JfTT convert into a Bill within a particular fr^lT ?T5 ^ ?PRTT period. It can be taken day after to­ ^ I ^ 4>Im^i Tg^R ^ I ^HR VTvft- morrow or next week. SHRI CHAND RAM: I will take ^>irr I cT? rrp^jfTT^^^ ^ i i ^ 1 about half an hour to reply to the dis­ ^ ^ ^ ^ cussion on this Bill. I would request that the hon. Members may kindly % ^r?ft ^ agree. ’TJFT^ ^ ^ I SHRI A. R. BADRI NARAYAN: The *T^ ?THt rr^ ^ ^ ^?T^nrr— matter was raised some time back ^ ^ ?T|T 'TT R % and it was understood that the half- an-hour discussion will be taken at ^ ^fsrgnff ^r fJrTsrPT Pf^t ^t^t | i 5.00 when the discussion on this Bill ^ ^f(7 ^ f I #fW7^T ^ arrTTTT W will be closed. It is already decided. ^ ^ *T^?^1R ?t ^iTR ^RT Now putting it again to the vote of t «r>^ ^r ?rnT^ t the House is not correct. vm ^ ^iit ^ I ^K^rx ^ SHRI CHAND RAM: I can reply at *ptf STT^hnr JTjff I ^TFTT ^TFsf ft^TT 6.00 after the half-an-hour discussion is over. ^HrriT ft)?: ^ ^r^f ftrqr ^TRrr | i ^r ^ ’irtt ?^?:F^¥5t t ’iftT ^ ^srir^ ^ ^ t» SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: It was already put to the House and it was ^4' irr^ ? I decided by the Chirman that half-an- hour discussion be taken up at 5.30. ^rrfyiff arf?r ^«rr^r #' I I mK «TPT ^rfr^ ^ ^ «ft MR. CHAIRMAN: The House will now take up half-an-hour discussion. ^ ^ t ^ 3Ft ^ ^ Further discussion on this Bill will be t I q ^ 3fhr-


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