H3732 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 27, 2018 who spend their entire careers pursuing lieve is a right to decide who lives and that that burden couldn’t be upon the excellence as a warrior, often wrestle who dies and under what terms that abortionist to know what Congress ac- with life back as a civilian. might be. tually meant. Therefore, the Supreme The Transition Assistance Program In 1973, January 22 of 1973, two deci- Court ruled it unconstitutional. can help prepare folks like Bill for the sions came down from the United They also added to it being indistinct challenges and opportunities of States Supreme Court. One was Roe v. that Congress had not established that transitioning to civilian life, to create Wade, which most everyone seems to it was never medically necessary to a new sense of purpose, to equip them know and understand; and that Roe v. save the life of the mother. with the tools to be successful in the Wade decision essentially was that So we went back to work here in this marketplace, leveraging their unique they believe that the child wouldn’t be Congress, and I was part of that as a experiences and skills from their time protected until after the first tri- member of the Judiciary Committee. in the armed services. mester. Trimesters were part of the The chairman of the Constitution and Named in honor of Bill Mulder, my dialogue in Roe v. Wade. Civil Justice Subcommittee at that legislation works to strengthen and Doe v. Bolton was the companion time was Congressman STEVE CHABOT improve this program. We owe it to case; and in that companion case of from Ohio, a very strong and principled Bill and every veteran to make the Doe v. Bolton that was decided on the pro-life Congressman to this day, and I transition from Active Duty to civilian same day, it essentially said, except for hope the next chairman of the House life more seamless and successful, all of these other things: the life or Judiciary Committee, and he is the which I believe this legislation does. health of the mother, the familial rela- central player in this, and I got to God bless the Mulder family. God tionship of the mother, the economic weigh in and maybe tweak the lan- bless our troops. God bless America. condition of the mother, of course the guage a little bit, but we precisely de- fined the act of partial-birth abortion f physical health of the mother. The list went on. precisely enough. ISSUES OF THE DAY But it was so broad that it really said We also held hearing after hearing The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. this: that Roe v. Wade says you can that concluded that a partial-birth ARRINGTON). Under the Speaker’s an- have abortion on demand after the first abortion was never necessary to save nounced policy of January 3, 2017, the trimester. Doe v. Bolton said you can the life of a mother. There were ghastly testimonies that gentleman from Iowa (Mr. KING) is rec- have abortion on demand for any rea- came before the Judiciary Committee ognized for 60 minutes as the designee son or essentially no rational reason in that period of time, but we passed of the majority leader. whatsoever. that legislation off the House, we Mr. KING of Iowa. Mr. Speaker, I ap- And that stayed in place from 1973 passed it off the Senate, and it was liti- preciate the privilege and the honor to until 1992, when the Planned Parent- gated again. LeRoy Carhart was the address you here on the floor of the hood v. Casey decision came down. lead abortionist who litigated this United States House of Representa- It is interesting that the son of Dem- case. It was Gonzales v. Carhart, as I tives, and I come to the floor today to ocrat Governor of Pennsylvania— former Governor of Pennsylvania, since recall. bring up a list of subjects that I think I went to Lincoln, Nebraska. It was passed away, God rest his pro-life should be deliberated upon here in the heard in three circuits. The one in Lin- soul—BOB CASEY, who was denied the House Chamber. coln, Nebraska, is the one I sat in on; The first one that is on my mind is opportunity to speak before the Demo- and after a number of hours of listen- the moral calling that we have to step cratic National Convention because of ing to that case be heard before the in to save the lives of the most inno- his pro-life credentials, was the subject court, I went out and did a press con- cent among us. And as I watched some of the lawsuit from Planned Parent- ference outside the Federal building of the discussion that took place here hood to Governor Casey of Pennsyl- because the judge had said that the two on the floor today, and I look over at vania. attorneys in the case, the opposing at- the people that were a part of the privi- Out of that decision came a majority torneys in the case, had done more due leged motion, as I reflect upon however opinion that ratcheted the abortion diligence than the United States Con- strong they are in their verbal support issue a little ways, and it said: Well, gress. for the Catholic Church, I didn’t see you can’t abort them after there is a I knew what the due diligence was one of them over there that actually viability. here. He did not. So I raised that issue: will defend innocent, unborn human But that viability was indistinct, and How do you do more due diligence than life. And we have tested it time after it settled in somewhere around 24 or 25 the United States Congress bringing in time here on the floor of the House of weeks. So it had litigation around the wisdom of America and the Amer- Representatives. that. We have had legislation around ican people and having public hearings So the central principle of the Catho- that. But, meanwhile, abortion on de- and rolling that information out over lic Church, and many other Christian mand pretty much walked its way and over again, and the due diligence of faiths, I will add, is to protect inno- across this country. precisely parsing the language of the cent, unborn human life, to oppose In the late part of the 1990s, we had decision that went against life and for abortion-on-demand, and to respect the legislation that passed that banned a ghastly and ghoulish abortion, and values that once a child is conceived, partial-birth abortion. It was a big de- precisely defined that act so that it once fertilization takes place, we have bate here on the floor of the House of could no longer be argued that we a unique combination of DNA that is Representatives, that ghastly and didn’t make it clear enough in our leg- never matched again in history; and ghoulish practice—and I won’t describe islation? that unique combination of DNA is cre- it here on the floor out of sensitivity, And we made it very clear that it was ated in God’s image, and I believe that Mr. Speaker, to ears that might not be never necessary to do a partial-birth he puts a soul in that little baby from able to absorb this—but it is ghastly abortion to save the life of the mother. that moment. and it is ghoulish, a partial-birth abor- We established those principles; and tion. once we established those principles, b 1230 Yet that practice was going on then I am there in Lincoln, Nebraska, And as that little baby starts to grow around this country. This Congress to defend it. I could only speak to that in its mother’s womb, we have a child banned it in the House and in the Sen- court through the press. There wasn’t a that is a gift to the world and a gift ate. Then it was litigated; and, let’s way for me to walk down and make a here to America; a gift to that child’s see, as it was litigated, the Supreme case before the judge, but I made the parents, grandparents, family, neigh- Court ruled that partial-birth abortion case to the press; and when he read the bors, community; a gift to our country. was a legal act because the Congress press clippings the next morning, ap- Yet there is a policy here that allows had failed to define the act of partial- parently, is when he discovered this, he for the Supreme Court to step in and birth abortion precisely enough that it offered to recuse himself. intervene with the will of the people was a vague description as to what Well, I wish they had taken him up and establish what they seem to be- that act actually was. So they said on that. But in any case, Judge Kopf

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And we know that, in to do so could never step on the liberty and the congressional findings that it the 14th Amendment, it requires that of others; the liberty of others to have is never necessary to do a partial-birth we protect life, liberty, and property, a speech, religion, assembly, the right abortion to save the life of the mother. in that order, I might add, in a to keep and bear arms, the rights to We lost in all of these areas. So that prioritized order. property. All of those things that are is two or three circuits the first time And, Mr. Speaker, I take it all back some of the liberties that are God- around, and a Supreme Court the first to the Declaration of Independence given liberties that are protected, they time around, and three circuits the sec- when Thomas Jefferson penned the are protected even from someone else ond time around on our way to the Su- words that the protection for life, lib- in their pursuit of happiness or their preme Court. erty, and the pursuit of happiness, are development of their own eudemonia, Now, who would think we would be the words that are in our Declaration. cannot take away someone else’s free- successful before the Supreme Court A little bit different than John Locke’s dom of speech, religion, right to assem- the second time through with Gonzales life, liberty, and property. bly, freedom of the press, the right to v. Carhart? But the life, liberty, and property is keep and bear arms, the protection And I would say that, looking back deeply entrenched within the literature from unreasonable search and seizure, on history, we should have been able to that brought us up to the Declaration or the right to own property. All of expect that. I don’t know what I ex- and the Constitution and is enshrined those things are protected as God-given pected, I just knew what my job was in the 14th Amendment. liberties in the Framers’ documents, was to do all I could do to save the So I assert that our Founders under- and particularly in the Declaration of lives of the most innocent among us. stood, and nearly a century later, with Independence, and then they are addi- So the Supreme Court found in favor the 14th Amendment, the Framers of tionally enshrined within the Constitu- of life and against LeRoy Carhart and the 14th Amendment understood, that tion itself. said that Congress had successfully and they were prioritized rights. They So pursue happiness, use your lib- legally and constitutionally banned the didn’t get this wrong. They never put erties to do that. None of those things ghastly and ghoulish act of partial- property, liberty, and life; or liberty, are any good if you don’t have life. Life birth abortion. property, life; or any other combina- is the paramount right; and in protec- That is the only case that I know of tion that might be conceivable with tion of life, especially the most vulner- where we have gone back to the court the three rights that are protected. able among us, innocent, unborn after we had failed the first time on the In every case that I can find in lit- human life, and the protection of that life issue, tried again. So when we went erature anywhere, it is always life, lib- life, no one can use their liberties to back to the court, we gained ground; erty, and then it either says property take someone else’s life. we didn’t lose. And if you track the court along the or pursuit of happiness. b 1245 As a matter of fact, Mr. Speaker, way, I think that you see that there And no one can use their pursuit of has been an incremental increase in pursuit of happiness was understood by happiness to take someone else’s lib- their support for the authority, the our Founding Fathers to be rooted in erty or life. These are prioritized in constitutional authority of Congress the Greek word ‘‘eudemonia.’’ E-u-d-e- that order: life is paramount, liberty and the State legislatures, to ban abor- m-o-n-i-a is how it is spelled, and I be- comes second, and eudemonia—pursuit tion or to limit abortion. And we are lieve exactly how it is also pronounced. of happiness—comes third. sitting there today with a Supreme And what it means is, that is the That is the structure that was under- Court that might well be a 5–4 decision Greek word for pursuit of happiness, stood intellectually and intuitively by against the Heartbeat bill, H.R. 490; the which they understood to mean the de- our Founding Fathers, by the Framers Heartbeat bill that requires an abor- velopment of the whole human being. of our Constitution, and the drafters of tionist who is contemplating commit- The development of a person’s physical our Declaration, and that is the frame- ting an abortion to first check for a body, to get to exercise and stay in work that we must adhere to in this heartbeat, and if a heartbeat can be de- shape, get in shape, stay in shape, be- country if we are going to continue to tected, the baby is protected. That is come proficient athletically so that enjoy God-given liberty in any of its the standard that is within H.R. 490. you can use your body for all of the forms over the long haul. We don’t make exceptions for rape or things you might need to use it for. The sin that this Nation is commit- incest because I believe it is immoral And the second component of this is ting with 60 million abortions—these to execute a baby for the sin and the to develop one’s self intellectually, be- innocent little babies who are the fu- crime of the father. cause God gives you a brain, after all, ture of our country, 60 million, and So we have a very clean, very precise, and that raw material, that brain, is a today we have what we call a full-em- very well-worded—and it is not worded gift to you. You have an obligation to ployment economy. The unemploy- in anticipation of it going before this develop your intellectual capacity. So ment rate is as low as it has been since court, Mr. Speaker, but it is written in that is your education, your training, 2001. And I am constantly hearing em- anticipation of going before the Court your cognitive skills, develop them to ployers say: You need to get me a labor after the next appointment and con- the max. force. firmation to the Supreme Court. So develop yourself physically, de- Well, I remember 10 years ago the Gorsuch 2, I might say. velop yourself intellectually, and then message was: You need to create jobs. And even though this Court could be the third component is develop your- The private sector creates jobs—not disposed to uphold Heartbeat, because self spiritually to put together the government, as a rule. But it was jobs their legal argument gets a little composition of the whole human being. 10 years ago. Today, it is: We have too vague, they don’t get to say a heart- That pursuit of happiness is understood many jobs and not enough workers. beat is vague. We know if there is a by the Greeks and identified by the Well, where are those workers? They beating heart, there is life. We know it Greek word ‘‘eudemonia.’’ are the aborted generations that we are is a human life. We know that an un- That is what the Founding Fathers missing today, the ghosts that sit be- born baby with a beating heart has at understood when Thomas Jefferson tween us when nearly a third of a gen- least a 95 percent chance of experi- took the quill and wrote: ‘‘Life, liberty, eration is gone and 60 million are miss- encing a successful birth. pursuit of happiness.’’ Not a fun tail- ing. And some of those numbers go higher gate party, not putting your feet up Not only 60 million are missing, but than that, not to 100 percent, but ap- and watching the ball game. Not a cele- there is roughly another 60 million who

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Bolton, Planned Parenthood v. Casey— tening to their voice. We have an obligation to protect Planned Parenthood, that, itself, Even the genetically identical are those lives, Mr. Speaker. This Congress spends millions lobbying the United not identical. We can tell them apart has, I believe, the votes within it to States Congress and State legislatures because God has given us a unique vis- protect those lives, but not the will, at across this land, millions. age, a face. And think what we do with this point, to move H.R. 490, the Heart- They are the number one abortion it. I mean, can you imagine if you were beat bill, to this floor—or even to com- company—factory—in America, com- going to create the world and invent mittee, for that matter. mitting around 354,000 abortions a year all of the things that were put here in Now, I have gone to work on this and of the right at 1 million abortions a Genesis and then you put Adam and we brought the Heartbeat bill further year. Eve down there on the planet, what and faster than any pro-life legislation When I talk to people here on this kind of thought process that takes to of consequence since Roe v. Wade in floor, a gentlewoman from the other give us a visage, a face, that is so 1973. As we entered into this Congress side of the aisle just spoke here some unique that everybody can tell it apart and we went to work on this—and my minutes ago, who said to me: STEVE, from everybody else? thanks to Janet Porter and Tom DeLay why are you worried about abortion? Think how hard it would be if we all for their tremendous work that they We have got abortions down to under 1 wore a mask every day. We couldn’t have done—we built a whip team here million a year. recognize each other. If we couldn’t in this Congress of about 12 to 15, and The peak was about 1.6 million abor- recognize voices or faces, or if we we fanned out throughout the Con- tions a year, so why am I worried about couldn’t read facial expressions, how ference, and people brought their cards this? hard would it be to go do business? How back in, and we ended up with 170 co- They score the difference between hard would it be to express a feeling, a sponsors on H.R. 490. the high watermark in abortions at 1.6 sense? How hard would it be to say: ‘‘I Well, I said, ‘‘ended up.’’ That is how million and what appears to be a very am happy with you’’; ‘‘I kind of wonder many we had yesterday when the Sun stable, maybe low watermark of 1 mil- about you’’; ‘‘I have my doubts about came up. We added one more at the end lion abortions a year. They think that you’’; and ‘‘I am angry at you.’’ of the day yesterday, and I am thank- somehow by messaging we have saved All of those things come out of our ful that we are still making progress. 600,000 babies every year is good be- faces, and little kids, from babies on And I expect there will be a trickling cause we are not aborting babies at the up, recognize facial expressions. They that will be added on to that, but it is willy-nilly pace we were at the peak of know a smile means joy; they know a a pretty good, long list of Republican abortions a couple, four decades ago. frown might not be; and we listen to Members that say: I will vote for it. I I say instead, you don’t get to keep them and watch their faces. It is in- am just not quite ready to sign on the score because there aren’t as many ba- stinctive in them, because God gave us bill yet. They have their own political reasons bies being taken today by abortionists. those abilities to be unique and to ex- for that, but I believe the votes are You can only keep score by ending a press ourselves, each with our own here in this Congress to pass Heart- ghastly, ghoulish, and immoral prac- unique visage. And that is what we are eliminating beat. tice and protecting these innocent with abortion, somehow believing that And if we pass Heartbeat, we will lives. These are innocent lives of all it is a mass of tissue that doesn’t have have taken the first step to saving the races. All of God’s children, every one, identifying characteristics, that lives of nearly 1 million babies a year created in His image. doesn’t have a potential—and we all in America and starting to fill back up And that unique piece of DNA that I know in our hearts better than that. again that hole that is two or three mentioned at the beginning, Mr. That is why I wrote the Heartbeat bill, generations old by now, 45 years old. Speaker, that will never be matched up because it does touch to our hearts, Some would say that is two genera- again. Of all of the possible combina- and we know what the sound of that tions. It is probably closer—Thomas tions, it is beyond our imagination to beating heart is. Jefferson declared a generation to be 19 think how that unique person could be- In my iPhone here, Mr. Speaker, I years. Two, or a little more than two come matched up in another genera- have a series of different little babies generations are missing in America. tion. There are 7 billion people on this with beating hearts, and I can turn on Some of those little girls who were planet, and what are the distinctions that audio and listen to the beating aborted would have had babies by now, between us? heart of my little granddaughter that and there would have been roughly Just think, how many times have is due to be born in the latter part of maybe another 60 million babies al- you heard a voice from another room July of this year. The baby is 26 weeks ready born to that generation that is and recognized that voice because it is and 2 days along, today, as we speak, missing. unique. You know who it is. It has to and the last heartbeat pulse I got was We have an obligation to defend their be somebody usually close to you or 161 beats per minute. I also have, of lives. We have an obligation to defend somebody you have heard quite often. course, the ultrasound pictures in here life. We have an obligation to restruc- I know that I have come up behind a of that little miracle that is waiting to ture, again, the priorities of life, lib- vehicle out in my neighborhood and burst forth and breathe free air here in erty, and the pursuit of happiness. the vehicle had probably been traded America. How can we sit here and say we are two or three times since I had seen the And I am far from alone. There are moral? How can we be indignant about driver, but I come up behind that pick- millions of Americans that experience a discretionary decision made by the up, I see the back of his head, and I can the same thing. Speaker of the House and not have a tell by the way he sits behind the I have what is now a former district bit of a qualm about 60 million babies steering wheel who he is—even if I representative that worked for me for a aborted because of the intransigence of haven’t seen him in 20 years—because decade, and there framed in his office— the people who stood there just an hour we are that unique. There are 7 billion a picture about this big—framed was ago to lecture the American people on faces here, and they are all unique. the first picture of their firstborn son, a judgment call that they disagreed Even though there is identical DNA firstborn child, and his name is Joseph with form the President of the United in the case of identical twins, triplets, Dean Anderson, and the picture is of States and, by the way, with the quadruplets, quintuplets, septuplets, his ultrasound. Speaker of the House. sextuplets—I think I covered all that The picture was there well before he That lack of a moral position over on has ever existed—but whatever kind of was born, and they bonded with him that side of the aisle is why we still

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Casey reversed, true, right, and just in all of its aspects window—by the way, these windows Doe v. Bolton reversed, Roe v. Wade re- in 1973. have to be opened in the right se- versed, and to see life respected in Information emerged years later at quence. There are four windows, and I America again, as it was before 1973. the retirement of Justice Blackmun will name them: the House, the Senate, That is the path we need to follow. that Justice Kennedy was prepared to the Presidency, and the Supreme What is obstructing this path, Mr. vote on the pro-life side in Planned Court. Speaker? Parenthood v. Casey and that there If the Supreme Court opens up and I know that you are asking that were decisions that were made that we lose pro-life majorities in the House yourself, but for me, I am prepared to will always be within the bowels of the or Senate, if the Supreme Court opens answer the question that you are Supreme Court as to why that didn’t up, it isn’t going to do us any good be- thinking. happen. But the information out there cause we can’t get there with the There seems to be a perhaps long- says it was very close, that the deci- case—at least, out of this Congress we standing rule, one that was probably sion really was on the side of life; and can’t. continued by Speaker Boehner or cre- for an unexplained reason, it went the If we lose the Presidency, say we ated by him. It seems that it goes back other way in 1992, and that gave Ken- wait until the year 2020 and lose the further than the current leadership in nedy the opportunity to write the ma- Presidency and we end up with a pro- the House, but I have talked to each jority opinion in Planned Parenthood abortion President again, it isn’t going one of the top three Republican leaders v. Casey. That is why we came up with to do us any good. Remember, Presi- in the House and each have told me: We the viability nonstandard standard. dent Obama said he didn’t want to see won’t bring pro-life legislation to the Now we have taken the Heartbeat his daughters punished with a baby. floor of the House unless it is sup- bill up through the circuit court in ported by the top three pro-life organi- b 1300 North Dakota, and the court struck it zations in the country, that being down, as we knew they would. It just If we end up with a pro-abortion Family Research Council, Tony Per- should be common knowledge by any- President, again, it won’t matter if kins; Susan B. Anthony List, Marjorie one who is involved in this discussion there is a pro-life majority in the Dannenfelser. that with the Supreme Court precedent House or the Senate, because the Presi- Both of those people are good friends decisions, and especially precedent de- dent would veto it. and powerful, committed pro-life work- cisions that are as well-known and By the way, Mr. Speaker, we do have ers. I have great respect for them and have extended as long as they have a pro-life majority in the Senate today. all of their organizations they have put with Planned Parenthood v. Casey and It is a bare pro-life majority. It is a 51– together, and many others. By the way, Doe v. Bolton and Roe v. Wade, that 49 pro-life majority in the Senate. That there are 170 cosponsors on Heartbeat, with those precedent cases, no lower was proven with the 20-week bill that plus 162 pro-life organizations or na- Federal court is going to attempt to did not defeat the cloture vote over tional leaders that are cosponsors on defy the United States Supreme Court. there, but it had a bare majority of this. So I have named the two of the So any pro-life legislation that chal- votes. So it is close, but a pro-life ma- lenges existing Supreme Court prece- three, what some have expressed as the jority in the Senate. holy trinity of pro-life, so to speak. dent, which we must do if we are going We have a pro-life majority in the to ever reduce the nearly 1 million The other is the National Right to House of Representatives. That is clear abortions a year down to far fewer—by, Life, NRLC. @NRLC would be their here. I believe we have the votes to say, 95 percent—will always lose at the Twitter handle. They say: We do not pass H.R. 490, the Heartbeat bill, off lower court. At every level in the Fed- oppose Heartbeat. I say they do not the floor. eral court, we will lose, because those support Heartbeat. They say they don’t Window number one, pro-life major- lower courts will not challenge the have veto power, but the Speaker, the ity in the House. We have it. Let’s United States Supreme Court, Mr. majority leader, and the whip say they move H.R. 490. Let’s move it now. Speaker. do. But the Speaker’s spokesman said: That means we have to go back The second window is the pro-life ma- No, there isn’t any such rule. Well, it is through this motion that we had again, jority in the Senate. Questionable. But being applied. go back through the exercise we had if they suspended their rules, they National Right to Life, when I say to again that three circuits heard the ban could pass Heartbeat in the Senate. If them it is time to lead, follow, or get on partial-birth abortions. Three cir- that happened, H.R. 490 then would go out of the way, they say: Well, we do cuits struck it down, even though we to the President. The President will not oppose and we don’t have that kind had rewritten the legislation to con- sign H.R. 490, the Heartbeat bill. He of power. form with the Supreme Court decision will sign it, and one of the things that My answer to that is: Then pick up because they were not about to tell the I guarantee is that Vice President the phone, call the Speaker, and tell United States Supreme Court that the MIKE PENCE, who has a terrifically Speaker RYAN you don’t want to have inferior courts are superior to the Su- good heart himself, would be standing that veto power; remove yourself from preme Court. So we accept that. next to the President of the United this. And I said specifically: Lead, fol- I don’t want to hear an argument States at that time. low, or get out of the way. from pro-life organizations that say: The President would sign that bill. It is probably too late to lead for Well, the case is already settled. We Now we can count on it, at that point. them. It is probably not too late for tried Heartbeat before the circuit when That is window number three. them to follow—I hope they do—but at it was passed in North Dakota, and the Window number one, pro-life major- a minimum, get out of the way. Pick circuit struck down the North Dakota ity in the House; window number two, up the phone, call the Speaker, tell the law, so we are defeated. pro-life majority in the Senate; window public that you don’t want to have veto Really, that is not a defeat. When number three, a pro-life President that power over Heartbeat, that you want to you know you have to accept that de- will sign the bill. get out of the way. feat in order to qualify to get to the Window number four is the Supreme If the Speaker wants to pick another Supreme Court, that is not a defeat. Court. We have to walk through the organization, let him do that. That That is a process that you accept at swamp and the quagmire of the lower would be fine with me. There are plen- the onset. courts to get there, but we would get ty of good organizations out there. I accept that process at the onset to there at that point. A Heartbeat bill Meanwhile, National Right to Life go forward through the lower courts to passed by this Congress would get to says to me: Why are you dividing the

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Speaker: Accusing me of dividing? standard pressure and temperature I would like to protect those babies One hundred seventy Members of the that is a meter is the distance against from that moment on, but we can’t House of Representatives say: I want which all other distances are measured prove that fertilization, conception Heartbeat to the floor for a vote. There and made within the metric system. today, medically, in that instant, but are a whole bunch of others who want Well, that gives you an idea of what we can with a heartbeat. Anyone that to vote for it that aren’t yet ready to human life is. Human life is sacred in has heard a heartbeat knows that that sign on. all of its forms. It is the measure itself beating heart tells us there is life. It The will of we the people is reflected against which we measure every other speaks to our hearts and it speaks to in the votes in this republican form of value that we have. our consciences. government which is guaranteed to us So how can we say that this life is It is impossible to be a moral human in the United States Constitution. It is not worth it when it is sacred and it is being and make an argument that tak- not what anybody says out here that the measure? ing the life of a little baby with a beat- We are here with the National Right controls what goes on in here. It influ- ing heart somehow is justifiable, when to Life resisting—and I use that word ences, but it doesn’t control. we know the potential for that little as an informed word, not just a random We have an obligation, every one of baby is as great as our own in almost one off the shelf—resisting the move- us. All 435 of us owe our constituents every case. ment of Heartbeat, because they be- our best effort and our best judgment. Even if they are not, we have a case lieve that if we challenge the Supreme That best effort and judgment doesn’t that looks like its going before the Su- Court, then Kennedy would be—and I mean that we let unelected, outside or- preme Court that bans the abortion of will use these words—Justice Kennedy, ganizations dictate against the will of a baby that might be diagnosed with a because I do respect him—using their the majority here in the House of Rep- disease, particularly—an affliction, I words, would be forced to vote against resentatives. But that is what is going should call it—Down syndrome. In In- Heartbeat and would be in a position to on by this rule that hangs up there in diana, now-Vice President MIKE ENCE assign Justice Ginsburg to write the P the Speaker’s office that, unless Na- majority opinion, in which case she signed the bill. These are some of the tional Right to Life comes onboard, the would likely take away all things that most lovable human beings on the pro-life legislation is not coming to the we have gained. planet. They have a heart in them that floor of the House of Representatives. I say: What? What do we have to seems to have more love than the aver- I do not think that that is a defen- lose? What could we possibly lose? age heart in the rest of us. They have sible position. It is not defensible for All we know is this: 45 years of banned the abortion of Down syndrome National Right to Life, whose mission incrementalism has piled up 60 million babies in Indiana. statement says they protect life from dead babies. And we are afraid to chal- Now, what is curious is, the way that the beginning of life until natural lenge the Supreme Court, when every is left, maybe that is upheld in the Su- death. If you look a little further on time we knock on their door, we have preme Court, maybe it is not, but if it their website—because I wanted to gained something rather than lost is upheld in the Supreme Court, it know the technicalities—when they be- something? leaves the door open for abortion on de- lieve life begins, posted on their Furthermore, society is moving. So- mand for others who are not diagnosed. website: at the moment of fertilization. ciety is moving in the direction of life, So does it say that there will be ba- I agree with them completely, with because we see the ultrasounds. We bies of whom they will deny the diag- their mission statement, that we know. nosis of the affliction of Down syn- should protect life from the moment of I will say, Mr. Speaker, I always drome so they can be aborted? fertilization until natural death, be- knew. I knew when I picked up my first These moral questions should not be cause human life is sacred in all of its little baby, little David King, on March answered at all by a civilized society. forms. It begins at the moment of fer- 24, 1976, and I looked at him, that little They should be answered by this: a tilization. It begins at the moment of miracle. There was an aura about him. unique human being created at the mo- conception. I was so amazed at the miracle of that ment of conception. We can be certain In fact, former Governor Bob Casey, child, you could have convinced me of that when that baby has a beating whom I spoke of earlier in Planned that he was the second coming of Jesus heart. If we stop that beating heart, we Parenthood v. Casey, said years ago—I Christ himself, that aura about him. are ending an innocent human life. clipped it out and put it on my bulletin I was stunned. I was so drawn to him, That is the question. I would like to board—before we had electronics, ev- drawn to that miracle. I had to go to start it at the moment of conception, erything had to be saved; you couldn’t work later on that day, and I was sit- but from a beating heart, that is the go search on the internet—pre-inter- ting there working and I was thinking: time that we can prove it. net, Governor Bob Casey said: Human Could anybody take that little baby’s Now, everybody knows it. Everybody life cannot be measured. It is the meas- life now, now that he is these few hours knows it because we have ultrasounds ure itself against which all other old? Could they take his life when he is and the audio of that 161 beats a things are weighed. an hour old? Could they take his life at minute. That little granddaughter of Think of that. What is a life worth? the moment he was born when he burst mine that, Lord willing, we are expect- It can’t be quantified because it is forth into the delivery room and began ing her arrival the last week or so in the measure. to cry and gurgle and scream and expe- July, that strong, purposeful heart is When the Frenchmen created the rience the harshness of birth, which beating at 161 beats a minute. We can’t metric system, they did a calculation has got to be a stunning thing—I am stop that life because it is inconven- of the distance either around the Earth kind of glad, maybe, I don’t remember ient, because somebody is inconven- or pole to pole—who knows if it is right that myself—but I remember his. An ienced by a pregnancy. or not—and they divided it down into absolute miracle. Why is it that abortion came along increments and came up with the If they couldn’t take his life the shortly after the contraceptives be- meter. Well, the meter is a standard for minute after he was born, why could came so available everywhere, all the distance of measure. they take it the minute before he was time, to anybody? How long is a meter? born or the hour or the day? Or could Well, it is whatever the distance is we take his life the week before he was b 1315 that is identical to the platinum strap, born or the month or the trimester or I remember when birth control pills I will call it, the platinum meter stick another trimester? came in, about the mid-sixties. Shortly that is stored at standard temperature You can follow that all the way back after that, here is abortion on demand and pressure so that it doesn’t expand to conception. There is no distinct mo- in 1973. If ever there was contraception

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We cuse possible was when contraceptives the Senators to sit on their hands and send it to a Court that, by then, per- became the most available possible. to wait for a configuration of the Court haps, has a new Supreme Court Justice That all happened almost simulta- to come around in such a way that we there who would support our Constitu- neously. have great confidence that they will tion, the rule of law, we the people, the And by the way, it was my genera- find in favor of life, no. Instead, we will of the people, and defend the obli- tion coming of age at the time that need to do our job; and our job is to gation which we have, which is an obli- that happened, Mr. Speaker. move the Heartbeat bill, H.R. 490, off gation to defend life first, liberty sec- So I urge National Right to Life to the floor of the House of Representa- ond, pursuit of happiness third, or, ac- lead, follow, or get out of the way. I tives and send it over to the Senate. cording to the 14th Amendment, prop- would be awfully happy if you join in It will take some serious work to get erty third—those priorities. and follow, because we know this: there that done over there at the Senate, Mr. It is our obligation by Declaration of will be a turnover in the United States Speaker, and I think we can get there. Independence, it is our obligation by Supreme Court. We know that the But if we are knocking on the door in Constitution, it is our obligation by President of the United States has the Senate, then the Senators who are the 14th Amendment, it is our obliga- pledged that he will make nominations running for office, and especially a tion by every measure of humanity to the Supreme Court off of the list of good number of them who are, some that I know of to protect life. 21 that was approved by The Federalist say, vulnerable in conservative States, I’ll get to this closer, here, before I Society, by The Heritage Foundation, States that Donald Trump won—they yield to Mr. CARTER. and, if it matters, also by me. have been getting a little more con- I was listening to Father Jonathan The first appointment out of that list servative the closer they get to their Morris of New York on FOX News one of 21 is Neil Gorsuch. I think we can be reelection, and we have got a shot. morning. He was talking about how, very optimistic about the decisions We have got a shot to put together, when he is celebrating mass in his that he will bring down, from what I maybe after this next election, the 60 home church, when the mothers who know of him and his history and the votes necessary; and we have got a bring their babies in, when the babies conversations I have had with the peo- shot, also, at the Senate changing the start to cry, they get up and carry the ple who have known him for a lifetime. rules so they are no longer handcuffed babies out of the church. And he said: I am very, very impressed with Neil by the filibuster rule and the require- I don’t know why they would carry Gorsuch. I might have disagreed with ment of 60 votes for cloture in the Sen- those babies out of the church. They him already on a case a week ago, but ate. We can’t control that, the other think those crying babies annoy me for I am very impressed with him, with his side of us. We can influence it perhaps, some reason. But we should always re- juris prudence, and with the principles but we can’t control it. member, those babies, those gurgling that he carries within him. We can control what we do here. babies, those crying babies, are the I would like to let the world know, That means we have to bring Heartbeat only innocent voices in the entire Mr. Speaker, that when they inter- to the floor of the House of Representa- church. viewed the other candidates for Su- tives, and we need to get the votes on And these babies are the most inno- preme Court, which I learned from it to do it. We need to send it over to cent among us, except the unborn ba- White House counsel, they interviewed the Senate. And a way to do that now bies don’t have a voice. They can’t cry all 21 on The Federalist Society’s list. is for National Right to Life to pick up out to us from anywhere except from And of those 21, they asked them all the phone, call the Speaker, and say: Heaven. And they do cry out to us from the same question, a whole series of Mr. Speaker, take this cup from me; I Heaven, and we do have an obligation questions, but they all got one same don’t want this responsibility. The to hear them and to ask for forgiveness question, at least, and that was: If it is guilt will be too heavy if there is an ap- for what we have done. not to be you who would be nominated pointment to the Supreme Court and Mr. Speaker, I would like to conclude for the Supreme Court, who should it the Heartbeat bill hasn’t gotten there my part of this, at least for the mo- be? And of the other 20 who were inter- because we wouldn’t let it come to the ment, and am happy to yield to the viewed, every one answered Neil floor of the House of Representatives. gentleman from Georgia (Mr. CARTER). Gorsuch. What a powerful endorsement That is the guilt they have to carry. And I would note that the clock runs of a man’s juris prudence, of a man’s By the way, this configuration hasn’t out at about 1:32, for the gentleman’s character, of a man’s support among existed in 45 years, where we had the information. his peers. windows open of a pro-life majority in Mr. Speaker, I yield to Mr. BUDDY I say, Mr. Speaker, that I could eas- the House and in the Senate and a CARTER. ily find 20 Members among this Con- President who will sign it and a Su- HONORING PATRICIA ‘‘TRISH’’ DEPRIEST gress who would say those same things preme Court that we have confidence Mr. CARTER of Georgia. Mr. Speak- about me, but I would have to hand- will find in favor of life. It hasn’t ex- er, I thank the gentleman for yielding. pick them. Neil Gorsuch didn’t hand- isted in 45 years. So, if we wait for a Mr. Speaker, I rise today to recognize pick those 20. They were listed by The Court to get lined up in a way that Ms. Patricia ‘‘Trish’’ DePriest, who Federalist Society and supported by pleases us, we might well wind up with will be retiring this week as a case- The Heritage Foundation. His peers, no way to open up one of the other work manager after 34 years of work- universally, said Neil Gorsuch is the three windows necessary to get it to ing for the First Congressional District best pick. ‘‘If you can’t pick me, Neil the Court. of Georgia. Gorsuch is the best pick,’’ was their So why wouldn’t we move the ball Ms. DePriest has been referred to as answer. down the road as far as we can get it, the dame of Savannah’s political scene I would like to know what Neil get this thing out of the House of Rep- but is, frankly, so much more than Gorsuch said when he was asked that resentatives. Sit it on the desk of that. She has worked for three con- question. We may never know that, or MITCH MCCONNELL. If MITCH can’t get secutive Members of Congress from perhaps that will be the next appoint- that up this year before the elections Georgia’s First Congressional District. ment to the Supreme Court. in November, or even before the transi- She started working in 1983 for Con- But the rumors about Justice Ken- tion takes place in lame duck session, gressman Lindsey Thomas. After that, nedy retiring, not substantiated. They fine. We will start again next January. she worked for Congressman Jack have been coming back a little more We will bring Heartbeat here again. We Kingston. Now she works for me. all along. We don’t know what he will send it to the Senate again, and One of the first questions that I got might do, but we do know that time the new Senators can deal with it. when I was elected to this office came moves on. Turnovers do happen in the And maybe they change the rule at from a lot of constituents who said, Supreme Court. They are eventually that point so that a simple vote—even ‘‘Are you going to keep Trish?’’ And I

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We want you to have a happy and able to realize, yup, that is proof posi- about how she helped them or at least a well-deserved retirement. Thank you tive, that is hard, objective proof that know someone whom she had helped. for your service to the people of the there is a life and being worth pro- She has pushed passport applications. First Congressional District of Geor- tecting. She is a passport expert. No one knows gia. So I really applaud and join in with the passport system better than Trish God bless you, Trish. my friend STEVE KING’s efforts, and we DePriest, I assure you. She has passed f hope that even the last holdout pro-life through passport applications with groups, the National Right to Life, b 1330 lightning speed. would get onboard. Most of us here She has pulled veterans benefits out ISSUES OF THE DAY that are pro-life, if we hear that there of the most unlikely situations and The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. is any bill that will save innocent lives, we get onboard; count me in; I want to cleared up entanglements in Social Se- FASO). Under the Speaker’s announced be part of it; I want to support it. So it curity checks in order to get constitu- policy of January 3, 2017, the Chair rec- is really intriguing when we have a bill ents back on their feet, and oftentimes ognizes the gentleman from Texas (Mr. that will save lives, even more than at a low point in their lives. GOHMERT) for 30 minutes. Constituents who come to Ms. Mr. GOHMERT. Mr. Speaker, it is al- bills that that person or that group is DePriest often have nowhere else to ways an honor to speak here, and espe- already sponsoring. And if anybody holds back, I don’t turn, yet she is the secret weapon that cially to follow friends—very dear know—there is not a good reason for always seems to come through in the friends—hear STEVE KING talk about holding back, and hopefully, it is not most desperate situations. the importance of life. just for selfish reasons. Because the One of her most famous cases in- I know there is historical accounts in real pro-life folks, we support any- cludes helping a man who, quite lit- the Old Testament when it talked body’s bill. We don’t care. If one of my erally, woke up next to a dumpster in about different kings and what went on Democrat friends bring it, it doesn’t Richmond Hill, Georgia, with no mem- while they were there. It normally says matter. If it is a good bill, we want to ory at all of any friends, of any family, something like: ‘‘and he did evil in the or of his past life. Trish was tasked be there for it. eyes of the Lord,’’ or ‘‘he did right in I have just finished filing, just mo- with helping build it back again from the eyes of the Lord.’’ ments ago, a new bill, and it has come ground zero. To give you a sense of her And every now and then, there is an over a long period of time—agonizing. blunt personality, she told the Savan- addition to emphasize just how evil the Especially having been a felony judge, nah Morning News: ‘‘It’s like he ap- people were. A society was under a par- handled major civil litigation as well, peared here from another planet.’’ ticular king in Israel, and that addi- and then having been briefly a chief After 34 years of working for Con- tion was whenever—now and then, it justice of a court of appeals, when I see gress, she has developed personal rela- would mention that mothers and fa- judges that are so immoral and out- tionships with all the relevant staff thers were sacrificing their babies on rageously unconstitutional that they members at each government agency, the altar of some idol. become monarchs in their own little allowing her to perform her mighty And only if you believe the Old Tes- kingdoms, and they refuse to follow tasks for constituents that other case- tament, like the majority of Ameri- the Constitution like I did—I wanted to workers may take years to develop. cans have for all our history, that legislate. I disagreed with laws that ex- She has learned throughout her years ought to be quite an awakening when isted, and especially some Federal laws to always ask constituents for the you realize that we have killed over 60 that existed, so when my term was up, other side of the story, which she has million babies. I didn’t—the Governor offered to ap- become famous for drawing out, while I have talked to so many women who point me to another appeals position, using this to her advantage in per- are brokenhearted, and they have got and I said: ‘‘No, I want to legislate.’’ forming casework. A countless number to learn to give it up and move on, but And to legislate, I have to run for of- of constituents whom she has helped it eats away at them, the thought that fice to do that as a legislator. So I ran out over the years come in and out of they allowed a precious life to be taken for Congress, and it was—it required fi- the Savannah office each day just to that nature had entrusted them with. nancial sacrifice of basically every- chat with Trish, update her on their So, anyway, I just hate to see any thing my wife and I had, except our lives, and become her friend. women eaten up with guilt. home and our cars, but, hopefully, be- Her bluntness and wit, her intel- And it is not because there is a pro- fore long, we will finish paying off our ligence and sense of caring not only life movement. It was there long before kids’ college loans. They shouldn’t keep constituents coming back for her a pro-life movement. I hope that we have to pay them because, before I friendship, but keep her own work col- can get the Heartbeat bill that my went on the bench, we had money set leagues with a high level of morale. friend STEVE KING was advocating, I aside to deal with that. But Ms. DePriest, Trish, is more than hope we could get that passed and get But in the major financial adjust- just an excellent caseworker and staple it to the Supreme Court. ment from what I was making to what of government in the First Congres- Some of the rulings over the years I made on the bench as a judge, that sional District of Georgia. Trish was a have had to do with the ambiguity, the was part of the sacrifice, and I didn’t loving spouse of 50 years to her hus- vagaries in at what point an abortion want my kids to have to suffer—my band, Joseph Roy DePriest, Jr., who was no longer allowed. But any of us, if wife and I didn’t—because I chose to be passed away in 2012. She is a caring you see someone hurt and you want to a public servant. mother to Lisanne and Jamey. find out if they are alive, you run up But coming to legislature, here is the She is also a breast cancer survivor, and you check. And if you find a heart- way you legislate. And we have too a testament to her strong will. In fit- beat, then you call an ambulance—you many judges that have not only been ting fashion, when Trish was told of call 911 and ask for an ambulance. If legislating, but on the issues of immi- her diagnosis of breast cancer, she says there is no heartbeat, then you report gration, asylum, naturalization, DACA, she was more mad than scared and de- a dead body, and there is no lifesaving we have had judges become all three cided to jump in feet first and attack effort at all made if there is no heart- branches. To me, that means they need the problem—and that she did. beat. to be removed from office—just re- There will never be another Trish So I thought it was brilliant to have moved. They need to be impeached and DePriest for the First Congressional an approach like that. There are still removed from the bench.

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