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14thGarments Acomparativestudyofextantgarmentsin North-Western

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MaggieForest

knownintheSCAasMariennaJensdatter 14thCenturyGarments MaggieForest

Summary ThisdocumentisanattemptatsummarizingwhatgarmentsremaininexistencefromNorthern Europeinoraroundthe14thCentury,whatweknowaboutthem,andhowtheycomparetoeach otherincertainkeyareas.Alltheinformationcontainedhereinisavailableinvariouspublications, butmuchisinScandinavianlanguagesandsonotveryaccessible.Theinformationisalsospreadout overseveraldifferentpublications,somefairlyhardtogetholdof,andsobyplacinginformationon suchthingsasnecklinecutssidebysideIamhopingtomakeiteasiertoformconclusionsabout trendsandstyles. Inthemiddleofthe14thCenturytherewasabigshiftin.Whileearliergarmentshadbeen looser,cutbasedonsimplegeometricalshapes,byabout1330thesilhouetteonthecontinenthad changedtoacloserfitted,morewastefulwayofcuttingthegarments.Thegarmentsknownas pourpoints,aketonsanddoubletsbelonginthiscategory.Thesleeveconstructionchangedfroma rectanglewiththeseamunderthesleeve,withoneortwogussetsforwidth,intoamorefittedsleeve withasleevecap.Theseamrotatedalmostahalf-turntogoupthebackofthearm,andwidthwas providedbyone(orinsomecasesmore)gussetsatthe.Thearmholeinthegarmentwas correspondinglyroundedtoprovideamorecomfortablefit.Thisparticularchangealsogaveriseto the'grandeassiette'sleeve,whichseemstohavebeenusedbothforthenewlineofgarment(Charles deBlois'pourpoint)andolderstylekirtles(Margrete's)althoughinthelattercaseIhavea theorythatmightexplainthecombinationofstyles–seebelow. Thisnewstyleofmovedrelativelyslowlyacrossthecontinent,andseemstohavereached by1360-70.TheHerjolfsnesgarmentsalsobelongtothistransitionalphase,althoughthey canbedatedtotheveryendofthe14thCandevenintothe15th.Wecanassumethattheystill belonginthisstudybasedontheslowspreadof-itwouldhavetakenthatlongforthisnew linetoreachandthenGreenland.

Termsusedinthisdocument Thegarmentsoftheperiodweremany,andthetermsareoftendifficulttoconnecttothegarments worninartworks.ThetermsoftenremaininuserightthroughtheSCAperiod,infact,butdenotea differentlookinggarmentatdifferent,evenifthefunctionofthegarmentremainsmoreorless thesame.Forthepurposesofthisdocument,I’vechosentermsbasedonfunction.I'veused'kirtle' todenotethebasicgarment,wornontopoftheshirtorsmock,butbelowanythingelse.Thereare severaltypesofkirtles,thebasicones,thesplitkirtle(bladkyrtil),thetwo-colouredkirtle (halfskiptankyrtill–oftencalledmi-partiintheSCA)andthefittedkirtlefoundatHerjolfsnes. Outergarmentsaredescribedhereassurcotes.Theyareoftwotypes:open,orsleeveless,and closed,orsleeved-eithershortorlongsleeves.Oftenthesegarments,orsomeofthem,aredescribed asCotehardies.Inmyopinionacotehardieisaparticulartypeofsurcotethatisveryclosefitting, andseemstoalwaysbebuttonedorlaced."Hardie"inMedievalFrenchmeans'daring';(Charlesthe BoldisknowninFrenchasCharlesleHardi.)Thenamepointstotheclose-fittingnatureofthe garment,makingthebuttoning/lacingnecessarytogetintoit. Therearealsoanumberoftechnicaltermsusedinthisdocument.Afitchetisaslitusedtoreacha beltpouchorotheraccessoryhungfromabeltunderneaththeoutergarment.Consequently,the presenceoffitchetsonagarmenttendtoleadustobelieveitisanoutergarment,sincebeltswere generallyusedonthekirtle,notthesurcote(withtheexceptionofswordbelts). Twillandtabbyareweavingterms.Atabbyfabriciswovenwiththeweftthreadgoingoverone warpthreadandunderthenext.A2/2twillgoesovertwo,undertwo.A2/1twillgoesovertwo, underone.Asheetisusuallywovenasatabby,denimfabricasa2/2twill(whichgivesadistinct diagonallineinthefabric). Fullingisaprocessusedtomakewovenfabricthickerandstronger.Afteritiswoven,itiswashed, beatenandthenstretchedontenterhooks.Thismakesitfeltupalittle,andhelpsstoptheedges fraying.Atwillthathasbeenfulledismuchthickerthanitwasontheloom,isverywarmandalmost waterproof.Thesurfacecanthenbeshorn,orleftfuzzy.

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What’sthereandwhy?

Herjolfsnes ThecemeteryfoundatHerjolfsnesinGreenlandwasaveritablegoldmineofgarments.Infactitwas anamazinglyluckyco-incidencewhentheywerefoundintheearly1920’s–thecemetery,builtin permafrostconditions,wasthawingoutandwithintwothematerialtherewasdestroyed. AnotherluckycircumstancewasthattheGreenlandfindwasexcavatedbytheDanishNational Museum;alreadyinpossessionoflargetextilefinds,theywereattheforefrontoftextile conservation.Today,themethodscanbeseentobeterriblyflawed,butcomparedtomaterialthat wasnotpreservedatthe,thetextileshavefaredreasonablywell. Theyrangefromlatethe14thto15thcentury,andbelongtoatransitionalphasewherethecutting strategiesofearliertimes,usingaslittleclothaspossiblewithaminimumamountoffit,gavewayto adesiretotailorthegarmentsatleastsomewhat,acceptingsomelossofmaterial.However,theydo notrepresentthestyleofgarmentmostoftenwantedbySCApeople,clothingofthenobility, butrathertheeverydayclothingofpeoplelivingattheveryedgeofcivilization.

OtherNordicmaterial InadditiontotheHerjolfsnesgarments,thereisanumberofgarmentsremainingfromtherestofthe Nordiccountries;Denmarkinparticular.Mostarebogfinds;alongwithIreland,Denmarkhasthe highestincidenceofbogbodies.Severalarebasic,earlystylegarmentssuchastheBocksten,the KragelundandSkjoldehamnkirtles,eventhoughtheyrangeinagefromthe(recentlyre-dated)12th CenturyMoselundkirtletothelate14thCenturyBockstengarments.Thistellsusthatthe‘early’ stylecuttingstrategyremainedinuseandpopularthroughoutwhatwecall‘theMiddleAges’,even parallelwiththelaterstylesofclose-fittingclothing. Therearealsosomeveryhigh-statusandhigh-qualitygarmentsinthismaterial.There’ssome‘mid- level’garmentsthatactuallyfittheSCAscopeverywell,suchastheRonbjergandtheSoderkoping kirtles.AndtheBirgitta‘’,whilesimilartotheHerjolfsnesgarmentsincuttingstyle,wasmade fromaveryhigh-quality,expensivewoolconsistentwithBirgitta’sstatusasoneoftheleading membersoftheSwedishnobility,andafounderofareligiousmovementthatsweptEuropeevenin herlifetime. ThepinnacleoftheScandinavianmaterialpresentisthe“Margrethe”gown.Madefroman incrediblyexpensiveItaliangoldbrocade,itssimplecutmirrorsthemodernpracticeofnotmessing withafinefabric–buttheskilfulpiecingtogetherofnarrowpiecesofclothtoenablethegowntobe cutsodeceptivelysimplyshowsthelevelofcraftsmanshipavailableatthetime. TheNationalMuseumofDenmark,whichhousesmostoftheDanishandGreenlandfinds,is currentlyundertakingastudyoftheirtextilematerial,includingC14datingsofpreviouslyundated garmentssuchastheMoselundkirtle.Thiswillresultinnewdocumentationwhichshouldprove gratifying.

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Others ThereisacorpusofextantgarmentsfromtherestofEurope.EdwardtheBlackPrince’sarmingcote from,CharlesIV’sarmingcoteandCharlesdeBlois’‘pourpoint’havesurvivedbecauseof theirassociationwithimportantnationalfigures.Therearealsogarmentsofasimilartypefoundin gravevaultsinSpainand,althoughtheyarenotincludedherebecauseIhaven’tfoundmuch informationonthemyet.TheothergarmentincludedfromtheBritishIslesistheMoygown.Itis unique,becauseitisprobablytheclosestthingtoanactualwoman’scotehardieintheextantmaterial (althoughI’dhesitatetocallit‘typical’).Itisputtogetherwithgreatingenuitytocreateawell-fitted garment,andthesleevesarereminiscentofthegrandeassietteofCharlesdeBlois’pourpointand Margrethe’sgown. ItisstrangethatIrelandandBritaindon’thavealargerrepresentation–alongsideDenmark,we knowtheyhavealargenumberofbogbodies.However,thesegarmentshavenotbeenwrittenupto nearlythesameextentastheDanishmaterialhas–whathasbeenwrittenhasoftenbeenbyre- enactorsandSCApeople!Astimepasses,wecanhopethattherewillbemoreinformationavailable. WeknowthatPenelopeWaltonisstudyingthefindatHullcemetery,sowe’llhavetowaitandsee whathappens.WithabitofluckitwillbeasthoroughastheHMSObooksontheLondonfinds, fromwhichI’veincludedsomeinformationandpicturesonseamsetc. Photographicillustrationsinthisdocumenthavebeenliftedmostlyfrom‘Bockstensmannenoch hansdräkt’.Linedrawingsofpatternsareminebasedonthevariouspublicationslisted,bothgraphic andtextualevidence,withtheexceptionsoftheCharlesdeBloispourpointandtheMoygown.Any inaccuraciesaremyown.

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Thegarments

BasicKirtles(earlystylecut)

Bocksten,:Late14thCentury BockstenManworea,amantle,woolen,leathershoes, carriedtwoleatherbeltsandtwoknives.Hishoodwasfound nearby.Thegarmentisnowyellow-brownontheoutside,red- brownontheinside.Itisa2/1twill,originallyfulled.Thesleeves hada1cmhem. Thetunicwascutfromfabricthatmayhavebeen55cmwide(one selvedgeispreserved).Thetotallengthofthefabricpieceis estimatedto4.5m.Wholebodylength230cm.Widtharoundhem 250cm.Neckcircumference82cm.Sleevelengthright61cm,left59.5cm.Widtharoundwristright 23cm,left22cm.

Kragelund,Denmark:12th–13th Century TheKragelundManworeakirtleofcoarsewoolencloth,thelegs werebarebutonhisfeethehadshortleatherboots,lacedover theinstep.Thebootsarenotpreserved.Becauseoftheboots,the findhasbeendatedtothe12thor13thCentury,butitmaywell belater. Thegarmenthastwo goresinthefront,two intheback,andtwo oneitherside,allof themgatheredintothepoints.Theneckisunusual, pointedinfrontandbackandhasa7cmlongslitinthe front.Thesleevesarealsointerestingintheirconstruction.

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Skjoldehamn,Norway:13th–15thCentury? TheSkjoldehamntunicisanotherbogfind,thistimefromNorthernNorway. ItiskeptinTromsömuseum.IthasbeendatedtothelateMiddleAges,no earlierthanthemid-15thCentury,becausethe'shirt'thatwasfoundwithit hasastandingcollar;afashionthatbecomes commononthecontinentonlytowardstheend ofthe14thCentury.However,aC14-datingof thefabricshowsthatitwasmademuchearlier. Ipersonallynotethattheshirtinquestionlooksremarkablylikea Same'kolt'astheyareworneventoday.Thisfindmayormaynot actuallyrepresentacommonfashion,butcouldperhapsbethebodyof aSameofthetime.However,thecutofthegarmentisstillrelevant. Thegarmenthasonegorefrontandback,twoontherightsideand threeontheleft.ThenecklineisV-shaped.Itwaswornwithasmall plaitedbandforabelt.Thefabricis2/2twill.

Mi-parti(twocoloured)kirtles

Ronbjerg,Denmark:14thCentury Onlyaboutaquarterofthegarmentremainsintact.Thecutissimilarto theMoselundkirtle,butunlikethe otherbasickirtlesithasaseamup thecentrefront.Nockert speculatesthatthismaymeanthat thegarmentwasmi-parti.There hasbeennodye-analysisonthe findtomyknowledgetoproveor disprovethistheory.Thefabric densityvariesslightlyinthedifferentpieces,butthatmeans little.Thefabricisa2/2twill,withahigherweftcountthan warpcount.Itisalsowovenfromadarkerwarpandalighter weft,similartomanyoftheHerjolfsnesgarmentswhichit alsoresemblesinthecut.

Söderköping,Sweden:13thCentury Thetunicwasfoundinexcavationsin Söderköping.Ithasbeendatedtothetime before1242,andissewnfroma2/1twill whichisnowdarkbrown.Itwasoriginally redandblue.Ithasashoulderseam,two goresfrontandback,andtwooneitherside.

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Splitkirtle

Moselund,Denmark:12thCentury TheMoselundbodywasfoundin1884,andthe woolenwassewntogethertoresemblea trouserofsortswithamatchingcape.In1938 anewexaminationshowedthatallthepieces combinedtoonegarment,andthekirtlewas reconstructed.ItisdatedtotheearlyMiddleAges throughpollen-analysisandbasedonitscut,and thefabricisremarkablywellpreserved.Itappears tohavebeenquitenewwhenitendedupinthebog,asthereisnowearand nomending.Theweaveisa2/1twill.Thefabrichadbeenfulled. ThetunicisofakindknowninIcelandas'bladkjortel'.Theslitmadethe garmentcomfortableinmovement,andsuitableforworkingorridingin. Thesidescouldbegatheredupintothebeltforadditionalfreedomof movement,andcouldalsobeusedas'pockets'tocarrythingsin. Thecutoftheshoulderareaisunusual.Thebackismuchwiderthanthe front,whichgivesitquiteasophisticated,capelikelook.Thegoresare pleatedatthetop. Fittedkirtles(transitionstyle)

Herjolfsnes33,Greenland:Late14thC Thisisaman'sgarment,whichwasfoundinan earlyexcavationatHerjolfsnesin1840.Itismade frombrown2/2twillthatisveryheavy.

Herjolfsnes41,Greenland:Late14thC Man'soutfitmadefrom2/2twill,quitethinanddarkbrown,althoughtheweftwasslightlylighter thanthewarp.Thewearerwasapowerfullybuilt160cmtallman.Thegarmentwas kneelength.Itwasquitetightfitting,butgetsmuchfullerfromthewaist.Ithadbyfar thewidestofallthegarmentsfound.Thesleevesarequitefullandarefastenedby fifteencloselyplacedbuttons.Sixinallarepreservedstill,andtheyaremadefrom wadsoffabricgluedtogether,andthencoveredwith fabric. ItissimilarinappearancetoH38andH39.The verticalseamsareornamentedatthewaistwithrows ofbackstitching,similartoH38.Thesleeveedgesare ornamentedwitharowofbackstitching,andthebottomhemhas tworowsofbackstitching.

Also: Herjolfsnes34,Herjolfsnes36,Herjolfsnes40,Herjolfsnes46,Herjolfsnes49,Herjolfsnes53

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ClosedSurcotes

Herjolfsnes38,Greenland:Late14thC Awoman'swithlongsleeves,madefrom2/2twillofmediumthickness.Ithasa blackwarpandbrownweft,andwaslooselywoventoshowthecolours.Thewoman buriedinitwasasmallwomanatmost147cmtall.Itisquitetightfittinginthebody, andhasawideskirt.Thesleevesarequitewideatthe topandthennarrowatthewrist.Ithasfitchets,edged withafinesix-strandedplaitedcord.Thesleevesare edgedwiththesamecord,andtheskirthasafake cordedgingofembroiderytolooksimilar.Theneck wassimplyturnedover,sewndownwithabackstitch andovercast.Theverticalseamsarealsoornamentedoverthewaist withrowsofbackstitch.

Herjolfsnes39,Greenland:Late14thC Thisisawoman'ssurcotewithshortsleeves.Itis thebestpreserveddressofthefindandwasC14- datedto1413-1449.Theownerwasaslightwoman withaspinalcurvatureandahumpback.Itwas madefromveryfirm2/2twill.Theweftissowell beatenthatthewarpishardlyvisible. Itisquiteclosefitting,andswingsoutabruptlyat thehips.Theneckisquitesmallcomparedtothe othergarmentsfromHerjolfsnes,andhasashort slitwithtwopairsofeyeletsforlacing.Ithasnofitchets.

Herjolfsnes42,Greenland:Late14thC Mostprobablyaman'sgarmentmadefrom2/2twill,quiteheavy.Thewarpisblack,the weftbrown,givingablotchyimpression.Itwaspiecedtogetherbothattheshoulders andinthesleeves.Thebackisquiteabitlargerthanthefront,andtheshoulderseams sitforwardonthewearer.It'squiteclosefitting,andtheneckopeningisratherlarge. Thesleevesarealsonarrowandthearmholequite small.Thesleeveshavea13cmlongslit,edgedwitha rowofbackstitching.Itwasprobablysewnupwhen worn.Thegownhasfitchets,edgedwithsix-plaited cord.Theneckisedgedthesameway,butthehem, whichiscalf-length,isedgedwithtwo-pliedcordsewnonwith overcaststitches.Nörlunddrawsthepatternwithcurvedside-gores, butNockertconsidersthiswrongbasedonanexaminationofthe garmentintheNationalMuseumofDenmark.

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Herjolfsnes43,Greenland:Late14thC Man'sgownmadefrom2/2twill,ratherthinandwovenwithadarkerwarpandpaler weft.It'snotveryfull,butithasnotbeentakenintobeveryclosefitting.It'stheleastfull ofthegarments.Itisaveryunusualandpuzzlinggarmentforseveralreasons.Ithasa verydeepslitintheneckline.Therearenobuttonholesoreyelets,soitmusthavebeen keptclosedsomeotherway,probablyaclasporbrooch.Ithasfitchets,butthey'replaced higherandfurtherbackthannormal,makingthemquiteinconvenient.Thegarmentwas alsoquiteclearlywornwithabelt,whichcovered thefitchets(asshownbywearmarks).Inother words,itsfitchetscouldnotbeused. Thehemisnotturnedunder,andtheedgesofthesleevesand neckareturnedunderbutwithoutstitchingorovercasting. Similarly,thefitchetshavenotbeenhemmed.Thismay indicatethatthegarmentwaslined,probablywithfur.Itwas veryworn,andwasnotverywellmadeinthefirstplace.Ithad alsobeenmuchpatched,onebigpatchontheloweredge suggestsaswordhadbeenwornwithit.

Herjolfsnes45,Greenland:Late14thC Thisisashort-sleevedman'sdress,madefrom veryheavy,coarse2/2twill.Itappearsblack, buttheweftthreadshaveabrowntinttothem. Theseamswerecarefullyovercast,butithasno ornamentation.Ithasfitchets.It'squitewide, givingtheimpressionthatthewearerwasbig.It isalsounusuallyshort,hardlylowerthanmid- calf.Nörlunddrawsthepatternwithcurvedrear side-gores,butNockertconsidersthiswrong basedonanexaminationofthegarmentintheNationalMuseum ofDenmark.

Also: Herjolfsnes35,Herjolfsnes47,Herjolfsnes50,Herjolfsnes51,Herjolfsnes56

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OpenSurcotes

StBirgitta’s“cloak”,SwedenorItaly,mid-14thC ThecloakofSt.BirgittaisnowinRome.ItwasborrowedbyStatens HistoriskaMuseumin1973/4foranexhibitionon'Birgittaandthe HolyLand'.Whenitwasexaminedcloselyitturnedouttobea garmentcut offbelowthe armholes.It hasfitchets betweenthefrontandsidepieces,which marksitasasurcote.Theoriginalgarment wasprobablysomewhatlongerintheback thaninthefront.Itwasmadefromadark bluefabric,fulledandshorn.

Herjolfsnes37,Greenland:Late14thC Thisisaman'sgownmadefromdarkbrown2/2twill, whichwasevenlywovenfromtightlyspunwool.Ithas averygradualandlargeincreaseinsizefromthe shouldersanddowntothehemandwouldhavebeen quiteloosefitting.Fitchetsshowthatitwasanover garment.Thearmholeedgesaresewndown,which indicatesthattherewerenosleeves. Closelyfittedgarments

PourpointofCharlesdeBlois,:mid-14thC. KeptintheMuseeHistoriquedesTissusinLyons.Probablypost-dateshisdeath atAurayin1364.Frontandsleevesfastenwithcloth-coveredwoodenbuttons, samewayasCharlesVI'swithdisc-shapedbuttonsbelowthewaistanddomed onesabovethewaist.Therewerethirtybuttonsinthefront;thetwolowestare missing.Thesleevesareofthetypeknownas‘grandeassiette’,withverylarge armholes.Madefromasilkdamaskwithapatternofheraldicandbirdsset inmedallions,andpadded.Thequiltingstitchesarehorizontalandspacedat3.5 cm. N.B.Accordingtosomeonewhohasseenthisgarmentinperson,thepourpointwasinfactneither quiltednorpadded.Thequiltedeffectisinsteadpartoftheconservation-theunlinedgarmenthas beentightlystitchedtoabackingfabric.

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Margrethe,Denmark:Early15thC Thesizeofthegownsuggeststhatthewearerwasayounggirl,anditisdated totheearly15thCentury.Whilethegownisverycloselyassociatedwith Margretheherself,itmayinfacthavebelongedtoherdaughter-in-law, PhilippaofEngland.Thefabricisgoldbrocadeonaredsilkgroundfabric. Thedesignisaframeworkoflaurelgarlandswithagroupoffive pomegranatesattheirpoints,surroundingacentralmotifofsomethingthat resemblesapineapple.ItisgenerallyconsideredtobeofItalianmanufacture. Thegownwillhaveusedaround103/4metresoffabricattheknownloom widthof60cm.Thecarefuljoiningofpiecestomakeupthemainpartofthe 3garmentwasdonematchingdirectionsintheweave,whichwillhavewastedsomeofthevery expensivefabric.However,someoftheinsertedgoresunderthesleevesareofadifferentfabric,and oneofthefourmainpieceswasmadeuplesscarefully. Thegarmenthasdeeparmholeslikeagrandeassiettegarment:althoughthesleevessurviveonlyas fragmentsatthetop,theydohavetheexpectedinsetstomakethesleeve-capwideenoughtofit. Thefrontskirthadapparentlybeentroddenon,andtorn.Thedamagehadbeenrepairedwith considerableskill;twopatcheswereinsertedwhichmadethemendingvirtuallyimpossibletosee. Thiswasdoneusingthesamefabric,whichsuggeststhatthegownwasperhapsmadelocallytothe wearer.Thecutandconstructionofthegownwasdonewithgreatskillandprofessionalism.The fourmainpiecesareallpiecedtogethertogainthewidthintheskirt,joinedvirtuallyinvisibly.Only afterthefourpieceswerecompletedweretheysewntogether. TheMargrethegownislinedwiththreedifferenttypesoffabric,coarsenaturallinenandtwoslightly differentbluelinens.Itappearstohaveoriginallybeeninterlinedwithbluelinenthroughthe andatleastasfardownaswheretheskirtwidens.Ontopofthat,thecoarsernaturalcolouredlinen wasusedasreinforcementinthebodice,andthenfinallyanotherbluefacingwasaddedatthe neckline.Itseemsaprosaicliningforsuchaspectaculargarment,andNockertspeculatesthatafiner liningstillwasonceattached,possiblyafinefursuchasminiver,whichhasbeenremovedand reused.

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Moy,Ireland:14th–15thC TheMoygownistheoneextantexampleofawoman’s‘cotehardie’aswegenerallyuse thetermintheSCA,butitisbynomeanstypicalifyoulookatartworkoftheperiod. Thefabricisa2/1twillwool,ofamediumfineness. Ithasalow-scoopedneckline,andisbuttoneddownthefront.Boththe“bodice”andthe sleevesareputtogetherbyjudiciousapplicationofgores,tocreateanicefit(althoughit doesn’tappearverytight). Someofthepatternpieces,likethoseoftheCharlesdeBloispourpoint,havebeencuton acurve–afurtherexampleofthenewtypeofcuttingstrategywherefitwasmore importantthanfabricuse. Thesleevesareveryreminiscentofthegrandeassiettestyle,withinsetgoresandadeeparmhole,but theyarenotasroundedasthepourpointorMargrethe’sgown.Thesleeveswerebuttoned,and althoughverylittleofthemsurvive,wecanbereasonablysuretheywerelongsleeves.Thebuttons continuepasttheelbowallthewayuptotheshoulder,whichseemstogocountertoartisticevidence andmightbesomesortofadjustmenttothefamousIrishstyleofwearingveryfull-sleevedleine,or somethingentirelydifferent. Thegarmenthadbeenpatched,andthereareholesatsomeofthestresspointsofthegarment.Itwas notanoblewoman’sbestgown.

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Children’sgarments

Herjolfsnes44,Greenland:Late14thC Thisdresswasmadeforagirl,approximatelytenat thetimeofherdeath.Itwasmadefrom2/2twill, quiteheavy,andhasastrongbrowncolouralthough itwasoriginallymadefromwhitewool.Itwasnot dyedoriginally;thecolourmusthavecomefromits burialintheground.Thesleevesareslashedatthe wrist.Itisnottightfitting.Itwasrecreatedbythe NationalMuseumofDenmarkfortheirchildren's exhibition.

Also: Herjolfsnes48,Herjolfsnes61

Armingcotes

EdwardtheBlackPrince,England:14thC ThearmingcoatoftheBlackPrinceisdatedtocirca1376,andwasmade fromblueandredvelvet,embroideredwiththearmsofFranceand Englandquarterly.Itwaspaddedwithwool,linedwithsatinandquilted vertically.Itfastenscentrefrontwithlacingthrougheyelets.Thesleeves aretornatelbowlevel,butwereprobablyfulllengthsinceonlytheupper quartersofthecoatsofarmsarepreservedonthesleeves.

CharlesIV,France:around1400 TheCoatArmourofCharlesVIofFrancewasprobablydepositedat ChartresCathedralaround1400."Itismadeofquiltedwhitelinenstuffed withwoolandcoveredwithcrimsonsilkdamaskwovenwithmedallions containingheraldicbirdsandbeasts,interspersedwithfoliage.Itismid- thighlengthwithascallopedloweredge,closesatcentrefrontwith25 woodenbuttonscoveredwiththesamecrimsondamaskandhaslong,loose sleeveswhichtapertothewrist.Ontheleftsideofthegarmentaretwoslits toaccommodatethestrapsoftheswordscabbard." Thecoatarmourappearstobecutwithoutawaistseam,andwithoutany sidegores.Itishoweverdifficulttotellfromthepicture.Thearmholeappearstobeuncut,andthe sleevecapstraight.Theneckisroundedandquitehigh.Disc-shapedbuttonsbelowthewaistand domedonesabovethewaist.

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Whatcanwelearnfromallthesegarments?

Fabrics Thereseemstobesometrendsherethatmakesense,althoughofcoursewithsuchalimitedselection wehavetobecarefulaboutdrawingconclusions.However,ifaclosedsurcoteisanoutdoors- garment,andanopensurcotemainlyanindoororfair-weathergarment,thenitmakessensethatthe formerismoreoftenmadeofstoutermaterialandthelatteroffinerstuff. WecanalsoseethattheGrandAssiettegarmentsarespreadthroughsociety;twoaremadeofthe richestmaterialavailable,andyetthethirdisofacoarsewool. Interestinglythearmingcotesarebothmadefromsilk–anindicationofthewealthandstatusof theirownersthatprobablydoesn’treflectterriblyaccuratelyonthestyleofgarmentingeneral. Linen Wool Fine Medium Coarse silk (unspecified) wool wool wool “Early”kirtles 3 3 1 Fittedkirtles 5 1 3 Surcotes 4 2 3 4 Grandeassiette 1 2 Armingcotes 2 Lining(allfromonegarment) 3

Weave Byfarthemostcommontypeofweaveinthismaterialisthe2/2twill.Skjoldehamn,Ronbjerg,and alltheHerjolfsnesgarments(whereIhavefoundinformation)areofthiscommonweave.Itiseasy towork,andgivesadense,strongfabricverysuitableforeverydayclothingthatwillhaveto withstandalotofabuse.Similaradvantagesexistwith2/1twill,butitishardertoweaveona horizontalloom,andthisfactissometimesusedasanindicatorthatthefabricmighthavebeen wovenonanuprightloom.Bethatasitmay,intheextantmaterialafairrepresentationofthe “simpler”kirtlesarewoveninthisweave.ThisincludesBocksten,Kragelund,Soderkopingand Moselund,aswellasMoy. BrocadewovengarmentsincludeCharlesdeBlois,MargretheandthearmingcoteofCharlesIV. EdwardtheBlackPrince’sarmingcoteistheonlyexampleofvelvetfabricinthesample. Ihaveonlyfoundthreadcounts/spindirectionsonafewofthegarments,andtheinformationis presentedbelow.Asageneralrule,thewarpthreadsarealwaysZ-spun,withtheweftS-spun althoughtheMoygownisanexception,asisthelinenthreadintheliningsofMargrethe’sgown. Theinterestinthespinningdirection(ZorSdescribesthe‘slant’ofthethreadwhenyoulook closelyatit)comesfromthenaturalinclinationofthethreadtotwistagainstitself.Togetastable fabricthenitisagoodideato‘balance’theweave,withaz-spunthreadinonedirectionandans- spunthreadintheother. Warpspin/density Weftspin/density Bocksten Z8-10/cm S7-8/cm Kragelund Z11-12/cm(circa) S7-8/cm Ronbjerg Z7-10/cm(circa) S12-14/cm(circa) Soderkoping Z12/cm S7-8/cm Moselund Z14/cm S10/cm Moy Z20/inch Z18-20/inch Margrethe S80/cm S22-26/cm Margrethelining1 Z22/cm Z22/cm Margrethelining2 Z11/cm Z9/cm Margrethelining3 Z15cm Z15/cm

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Colour Notmuchcolourexistsintheextantmaterial.TheHerjolfsnesgarmentsareusuallydescribedby Nörlundashavingadarkwarpandlighterweft,althoughweknowthatatleastoneofthose garments,thechild’sgownno.44,wasinfactmadefromwhite,undyedwool.Perhapstherevisitof thegarmentscurrentlybeingundertakenbytheNationalMuseumofDenmarkwillincludecolour analysis.AsidefromtheHerjolfsnesgarments,thisdescriptionisalsousedoftheRonbjergkirtle.It maywellbeawayofgetting‘mottled’clothfromusingthenaturalcolouredwoolfrombrownand ‘black’sheep. TheBogmaterialtendstobeanon-descriptbrownwhichMarcCarlsoncalls‘BogTrashBrown’. Thetermperfectlydescribeshowitlooksnow,butgenerallyspeakingwedon’tknowwhatthe originalcolourwas.ThegarmentsaccuratelydescribedbythistermincludetheBocksten, Kragelund,Skjoldehamn,MoselundandMoy. Thecolourswedoknowarebright,whichisonlynaturalsincemostarefoundonhigh-status garments.TheBirgitta‘cloak’isadark,richbluewool,andtheSoderkopinggarmentistwo- colouredverticallyinredandblue. Thesilkgarmentshavepreservedtheirrichcoloursverywell.Margrethe’sgownisgoldbrocadeon aredbackground,linedwithwhiteandbluelinen,CharlesdeBlois’pourpointgoldbrocadeon white.CharlesIV’sarmingcoteismadefromaredsilklinedinwhitelinen.TheBlackPrince’s armingcoteismadefromblueandredvelvet,quarteredasthebackgroundforhisembroidered armorialachievements. Fitchets Fitchetsareslits,oropeningsinseams,allowingthewearertoputhishandsthroughtoreachfora pouchhangingfromhisorher.Thepresenceoffitchetsshowsthatthegarmentwasasurcote, intendedasanoutergarment.TheexceptionhereseemstobeHerjolfsnes43,whichwaswornwitha beltthatactuallycoveredthefitchets(asseenbythewearonthegarment). Wherefitchetsarefoundintheextantgarments,theyvaryinplacementandsizeasshown.Theyare notalwaysplacedintheseams;Herjolfsnes38and42havetheslitscutintheactualfabric. Placement Length Birgitta Seambetweenfrontandsidegore ? H37 front-pieceseam ? H38 Frontinset 17cm H42 Frontinset 16cm H43 Highinsideseams 13cm H45 Seambetweenfrontandsidegore 17cm H47 Seambetweenfrontandside ?

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Goresandtailoring Thenumberofgoresinthegarmentdeterminesthefit,bothinwideningtheskirtatthebottom,and alsoinallowingthetailortocreateanarrowerfitatthetop.Inthebasickirtles,thefunctionofthe goreswastowidentheskirt-thetopofthegarmentwasnotfitted.Inthelatergarmentsthesecond effectwasusedtogreateffect.Andthereseemstohavebeenstatusinthenumberofgoresusedfora garment;inseveralgarmentsthereisanevennumberofgoresoneitherside(sothefalseseamswere notneededtomakethegarmentsymmetrical),andyetfalseseamshavebeenputintomakeitseem asthoughthereweremore. Front Front Back Back Left Left Right Right Real Apparent Real Apparent Real Apparent Real Apparent “Early”kirtles Bocksten 2 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 Kragelund 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 Skjoldehamn 1 1 1 1 3 3 2 2 Moselund 2 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 “Later”kirtles H33 0 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 H34 0 0 0 0 1 2 2 2 H40 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 H41 2 2 2 2 4 4 4 4 H46 ? ? 2 2 3 4 ? ? H53 ? ? 2 2 1 4 ? ? Surcotes H35 0 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 H37 0 0 0 0 1 2 1 2 H38 2 2 1 2 3 4 3 4 H39 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 H42 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 2 H43 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 H45 2 2 1 2 1 4 2 4 H47 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 H50 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 H51 1 2 1 2 ? ? ? ? H56 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 Birgitta 0 0 0 0 6 6 6 6 GrandeAssiette Moy 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 Children H44 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 H48 ? ? 2 2 2 2 1 2 H61 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2

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Necklines Thewaytheneckopeningwasdoneupvaries.Mostoftentherewasnofastening,astheneck openingwaswideenoughtojustslipoverthehead.Inthecaseswheretherewassomeformof fastening,theredoesn’tseemtobeanytrends;theycouldbedoneupbybuttons(ifthegarmentwas openthewholeormostofthewaydownthefront),lacedorpinned.Inmostcaseswesimplydon’t know.

Kirtles

Bocksten Kragelund Skjoldehamn

Ronbjerg Moselund Herjolfsnes33

Herjolfsnes41 Herjolfsnes44(child)

Surcotes

Herjolfsnes38 Herjolfsnes39 Herjolfsnes42

Herjolfsnes43 Herjolfsnes45 Herjolfsnes37

GrandeAssiette/closefitting

CharlesdeBlois Margrethe

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Seamsanddecorations TheHerjolfsnesgarmentsweresewnwithtwo-ply,s-spunwoolofdifferingthickness,butaveraging 1mm.StitchesusedatHerjolfsnesaccordingtoNörlundwerebackstitch,blanketstitch,overcast stitch,darningstitch.

Hemsappeartobeminimalinsize,mostlyaround1cm.Bothandhoodswerefinished throughfoldingovertheedgeofthefabric,andhelddownwithadoublerowofshortstitches.The edgewasthenovercast.Sometimesthehemisturnedoverandtherawedgeleftwithoutedge treatment.

Theotheredgetreatmentrelativelycommonistoedgeitwithanarrowcordsewnonwithan overcaststitchoradarningstitch.Thecordwasusedforedging,lacing,etc.Garmentscouldbe edgedaroundtheneck,thesleeves,theloweredgeandthefitchets.Onegarmentwastrimmedwith corda3ndthenturnedover.Thereareseveraldifferenttypes,fromsimpletwo-plytwist,one exampleoften-ply,andmostcommonlyplaitedcord,usuallyofthree-strandbutinsomecasessix.It makesforaverydiscreetdecoration.

OnHerjolfsnes38,theseamsjoiningthesidegoresareornamentedatthewaistwitha rowofbackstitches.Thebottomofthedresswasembroideredtorepresentcordsimilartothatedging thesleevesandwristopenings.TherewasasimilartreatmentonHerjolfsnes41;wheretheseamsof thegorescomeclosetogetheratthewaist,theyareornamentedwitharowofbackstitches.The sleeveopeninghasarowofbackstitches,andthehemhastworowsofbackstitches.

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Margrethe: Theseammostcommonlyusedistheoneseenbelowtotheleft.Theseamwassewnwitha backstitchusingdouble,two-plyS-spunsilk,nowbrown,perhapsoriginallyred.Theseam allowancewasthenflatfelledwitharunningstitch,exceptinthewaistwheretheywerehemmed down.Thesideseamsinthewaist,andthebackseamforthetop60-70centimetreswasreinforced (seebelowatright).Theseamsweresewnwithabackstitch,thentheseamwas"takenin"and anotherrowofbackstitchsewnthroughallfourlayersoffabric,formingawelt.Theedgeswerethen flatfelled.Theseseamswereexecutedwithadoublelinenthreadinthebackseam.Thismayhave beentotakeintheseamintheback,butitalsoservesto'pad'thegownslightlyintheback.The remainingseamallowanceinthereinforcedseamsisapproximately2cmwide,whereastheordinary seamshavebeenclippedcloselyto0.7-1cmwidth.Thehemmingwasverysimple,witha1cm singlefoldthatwashemmeddownwithsilk.

Standard Reinforcedseams

London:

Overstitchingoftwoedges Overlappingseam Runningstitch (usuallyfoundonfootsections ofwoolhose)

Seamreinforcedwithrunning hemstitch(singlefoldedhem) Backstitch stitch

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runningstitch topstitch hemstitch(doublefoldedhem)

Neckfacing Edgefinishedwithnarrow Rolledhem tablet-wovenband

Sewnontrim Sewnonedging ThearmingcoatoftheBlackPrinceisheavilyembroideredquarterlyinthearmsofEnglandand France.Asidefromthatgarment,thereisremarkablylittleornamentationpreserved.Therewassome smalldecorationontwooftheHerjolfsnesgarmentshowever.Itisnotembroideryperse;ratheritis theuseofordinarystitchingtoemphasizecertainareasofthecloth.

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Buttons Buttonsintheextantmaterialseemtohavebeenmadeinoneoftwoways.Eithertheywerefabric covered,stuffedwithmaterialwhichhadglueadded,suchasHerjolfsnes41andtheMoygown,or theywerewoodenbuttonscoveredwiththefabricofthegarmentinthecaseofCharlesdeBloisand CharlesIV.WhetherthiswasaFrenchthingornotisimpossibletosay. Thethreegarmentsinthisstudythatwerebuttoned,CharlesVI'sarmingcote,theCharlesdeBlois pourpointandtheMoygownwereallbuttonedthesameway,withthebuttonsonthewearer'sright side.TheHerjolfsnes63garment,whichisconsideredlaterthanrelevanttothisstudy,wasbuttoned onthewearer'sleftside. TheHMSObookontheLondonfindscontainsinformationonhowbuttonsfoundthereweremade, andalsoonhowthebuttonholesandeyeletsweresewn.

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Sleeves

Basicearlystyle Thisisthesimple,straightshoulderandmore-or-lessrectangularsleevewithgussetsunderthearm forwidthandcomfort.TheKragelundisnottypicalofthisstyle,butnonethelessbelongsinthis category.

Bocksten Skjoldehamn Kragelund

Transitional ThispeculiarstyleusedintheHerjolfsnesgarments,withtherotatedsleeveseamandtheinserted gusset,isaningeniouswayofmakingafittedsleeve.Notonlydoesthisapproachgiveanicelyfitted sleevewithoutthedifficultiesofdealingwiththechangeinwidthfromtheupperarmtoa comfortablearmscye,butthegussetactuallymakesthesleevetwistandfallforwardnicelyoverthe elbow,inasimilarwaytoamodern,tailoredjacket.Tryit!

Soderkoping Moselund Herjolfsnes33

Herjolfsnes41 H38 H39

H42 H43 H45

H44

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GrandeAssiette Thisseemsatfirstglancetobeaterriblycomplicatedtypeofsleeve.It’snot,butit’snotsimpleby anymeans.Itaddressesthesameproblemasthemorecommontransitionalstyleabove,namelyto haveaclose-fittingsleevefitarounded,widerarmscye.Whatmakesagrandeassiettesospecialisof coursetheextremedepthofthearmhole,andtheparticulardifficultyinfittingatightsleevetosucha verylargearmhole.Ifthisisdonewithjusttheonegusset,thepullonthesleeveovertheupperarm willbeuncomfortableandthestressontheseamstoogreat.Thesolutionistoinsertmoregussets– anythingfromthreetosixcanbeseenintheextantmaterialhere.CharlesdeBlois’pourpointisalso splitattheelbow,togiveaclosefitwhenthearmisslightlybent,butthisisstrictlyspeakingnotpart oftheconceptofagrandeassiette,justadditionalclevertailoringonaverywelltailoredgarment indeed.Thereisasimilarseamoverthewristforthesamereasons.

CharlesdeBlois

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Howcanweuseallthisinformation? Well,thefirstthingwecandoistousethebasicconstructiontechniques,suchasseams,tocreate authenticgarments.Andofcourse,wecanchooseoneoftheextantgarmentsandcopyit–thisis certainlyaworthyproject.ButIalsobelievewecanusetheinformationwe’velearnedfrom studyingthismaterial,togiveusanunderstandingofwhatwasdoneinperiodandwhy.Wecanthen usethatinformationtoadaptperiodtechniquestoourown,originalprojects. Ifonethingisobviouswhenwestudythisdata,itisthattherewerenorigidrules,nopremade patterns.Infact,whenpeopleaskforpatterns,wefindweleavetheareaofwhat‘they’did–because Idon’tbelievetheyusedpatternssomuchaswhatwecouldcalla‘cuttingstrategy’.Andeach individualelement–sleeve,neckline,numberofgoresorcombinationthereof–weremixedto produceauniquegarment. Inthecaseofearlystylekirtles,wecanseethatthegarmentsarelaidoutgeometrically,usingsimple shapessuchasrectanglesandtriangles.Thisenabledthetailortocutagarmentoutofanarrow lengthofcloth,withoutwastinganyfabric.Usingthisknowledgetoadaptacuttingstrategytomy sizeandtomodernwidthfabric,Icanbuildalonggownofthesameprincipleformyselfoutofa pieceof150cmfabriconlytwicethelengthofthemeasurementfromshouldertohem.

Similarly,lookingatthetransitionalgarmentsfromHerjolfsnes,Icanseethattheeconomyoffabric usewasstillimportant,evenifitwasn’tasimportantasanicefitoverthearmandshoulder.Alittle morewasteful,butnotmuch;afullgown,longsleevedandwitha,canbebuiltoutof4.5mof fabric–andiftherearemorethanonepersoninvolved,lessstillperperson.

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Appendix:Aspecialcase Mytheoryontheoriginallookofthe“Margrethegown” Thegownhasbeenaltered,weknowthisbecauseoftheliningsinthe bodicethatsurvive.Ithasalargearmholeandalargenumberofgussets insertedintothesleevecap,butthesleevesarenottruegrandeassiette. Thesleeveholesarelarge,butnottheincrediblylargeonesnormally seen-ratherthey'rejustbig,andthesleeveshavethenbeenbuiltuptofit withadifferentnumberofgussetsineachofthetwosleeves. Thefourbodyseamsdoafunkyroundedthingsomewhereinthehip region,ratherthansmoothlytaperingoutfromthebodiceandintothe skirt,whichisenormous-evenforthefashionofthetimeit'sbothlong andwideincomparisontothebodicewhichisratherpetite.Soitseems reasonabletoassumethatthegownwastakeninforasmallerperson, andthat'spreciselywhattheNockert,GeijerandFranzensuggestinthe bookaboutthegown. Butwhatdidtheoriginallooklike? Becauseoftheshapeoftheexistingarmscye,Ithinkthesleeveswerenormalsleevesforthetime, probablywiththesleeveseamjustbehindtheshoulderandasinglegussetinsertedthere.Ithinkthe skirtwasinproportiontothelargerbodice,andIthinktheseamsweretaperinginamore'normal' look.Whenthegownwastakenin,itwastakeninthroughallfourseamsinthebodicearea,leaving aratherlarge,gapingarmholeinthegown.Tofitthenowsmallersleeveintothislargearmholethe 'grandeassiette'methodofmultiplegussetswasused,buttherewasnorealintentionofmakingita grandeassiettegown,orthearmholewouldhavebeencarvedoutevenmore. Ialsothinkthatoncethebodicehadbeentakenin,thetailormadetheseamjumpouttotheoriginal seams,soastouseasmuchofthefabricaspossibleratherthanscalingthewholethingdown.This,I think,isalsowhytheskirtissomuchbiggerthanseemsrightforthatsizebodice. (Note:I'mtalkingabout'bodice'and'skirt'onlyinthesenseofthoseareasonthegown,thereisno waistseaminthegarment.)

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