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PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES
HOUSE OF THE PEOPLE OFFICIAL REPORT
(Part II—Proceedings other than Questions and Answers)
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HOUSE OF THE PEOPLE Shri Vishwambhar Dayal Tripathi [Unnao District cum Rae Bareli Thursday, 15th May, 1952 District (West) cum Hardoi District (South East)] Shri Ramananda Das [Barrackpore] The House met at a Quarter to Eleven of the Clock ^ Shri Anandchand [Bilaspur]
[Shri G. V. M a v a la n k a r in the Chair] Shri Girraj Saran Singh [Bharatpur- Sawai Madhopur] QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS (No Questions: Part I not published) Shri Raj Chandra Sen [iCotah Bundl] Shri S. Nijalingappa [Chitaldrug] MEMBERS SWORN Kumari Annie Mascarene [Trivan drum] Shri Kailash Pati Sinha [Patna Central] Shri N. Sreekantan Nair [Quilon cum Mavelikara] Shri U. R. Bogawat [Ahmednagar South] Prof. C. P. Mathew [Kottayam] Shri Kherwar Jethan [Palamau cum Shri Saidullah Khan Razmi [Sehore] Hazaribagh cum Ranchi—Reserved— Shri Radha Raman [Delhi City] Sch. Tribes] Shri Gulabshankar Ainritlal Dholakia Shri Harindranath Chattopadhyaya [Kutch East] [Vijayavada] Sardar Baldev Singh [Nawan Shahr] Shri Muchaki Kosa [Bastar— Reserved—Sch. Tribes] Shri Rishang Keishing [Outer Mani pur—Reserved—Sch. Tribes] Dr. A. Krishnaswami [Kanchee- puram] Shri Mahavir Tyagi [Dehra Duh District cum Bijnor District (North Shri Lakshmidhar Jena [Jaipur- West) cum Saharanpur District (West)J Keonjhar—Reserved—Sch. Castes]
Prof. Ram Saran [Moradabad [S h r i G. V. M a va la n k a r vacated the District (West)] Chair] Shri Kanhaiya Lai Balmiki [Buland- APPOINTMENT OF SHRI B. DAS TO shahr District—Reserved—Sch. Castes] PERFORM DUTIES OF SPEAKER Secretary: I will now read the Chowdhary Badan Singh [Budaun Order of the President: District (West)] “ Whereas the offices of Speaker and Shri Piare Lall Kureel ‘Talib’ [Banda Deputy-Speaker of the Houte of the District cum Fatehpur District- People are vacant; Reserved—Sch. Castes] In exercise of the powers conferred Shri M. Hifzur Rahman [Moradabad upon me by clause (1) of article 95 District (Central)] of the Constitution, I, Rajendra Prasad, President of India. h^ereby appoint Shri Krishna Chandra [Mathura Shri B. Das. a Member of the House District (W est)] of the People, to perform the duties 24 PSD. 21 Election of Speaker 15 MAT 1952 Election of Speaker 21
[Secretary] of the Speaker at the sitting of the Mr. Chairman: Motion moved: House of the People on the 15th May “ That Shri G. V. Mavalankar be 1952 till the election of the Speaker chosen as the Speaker of this by the said House on that day.” House.” Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava. (Gurgaon): I beg to move: [S h r i B. D as in the Chair] “ That Shri G. V. Mavalankar be ELECTION OF SPEAKER chosen as the Speaker of this House.” The Prime Minister (Shri Jawahar- The Deputy Minister of Works, lal Nehru): I beg to move: Housing and Supply (Shri Buragohain):. I beg to second the motion. “ That Shri G. V. Mavalankar be chosen as the Speaker of this Mr. Chairman: Motion moved: House. ’ “ That Shri G. V. Mavalankar be chosen as the Speaker of this Parliamentary ^Ufairs (Shri Satya Narayan Sinha): House.” I beg to second the motion. Dr. Lanka Sundaram: Sir, on a point Mr. Chairman: Motion moved: oi information. Is it not a fact that our Constitution and Rules of Proce “ That Shri G. V. Mavalankar be dure of this House are closely based chosen as the Speaker of this on the conventions and principles of House.” the Mother of Parliaments, the most hoary and exemplary of which is the ? ' ’• Sundaram (Visakha- ^ point of information, principle of unanimity of election of Mr. Chairman...... the presiding officers? Is it not also a fact, Sir, that the Chairman of the Mr. Chaiimaii: The hon. Member Ways and Means Committee of the may raise the point after the motions British House of Commons is usually are moved, drawn from the Opposition, that he performs the duties of the Deputy- Shri A. K. Gopalan (Cannanore): I Speaker and in certain contingencies beg to move: he assumes the functions of the Speaker? I believe. Sir. I will be voic “That Shri Shankar Shantaram ing the sentiments of everyone here More be chosen as the Speaker of this House. when I say that we of the First Parlia ment of the Republic of India (Hon. r ^ Chaudhuri (Berhampore): Members: No, no.) should do every r beg to second the motion. thing in our power to establish healtny Mr. Chairman: Motion moved: and enduring principles of orocedure May I. therefore, suggest to the Leaaei “That Shri Shankar Shantaram of the House, through you, and also to chosen as the Speaker the spokesmen of parties and groups of this House. of this House that there should be a Shri N. S. Nair (Quilon cum Maveli- brief adjournment of the House, so kkara): I beg to move: that they could consult together and “ That Shri Shankar Shantaram arrive at an agreed form. (Hon. Mem More be chosen as the Speaker bers: No. no.) This would mean that of this House. the motions from this side would be withdrawn, that if the name suggested Shmati Renu Chakravartty by the Opposition Benches for the (Basirhat): I beg to second the post of Deputy-Speaker would be motion. pcceotable to the Treasury Benches, there would be complete unanimity in Mr. Chairman: Motion moved: the election of both the Speaker and “ That Shri Shankar Shantaram Deputy-Speaker. More be chosen as the Speaker of this House. The Minister of Information and Broadcasting (Dr. Keskar): The II A.M. reverse is suggested. p r i S. N. Das (Darbhanga Central): Mr. Chairman: I suggest to the hon. I beg to move: Member that this matter ought to be raised when the hon. Speaker is elected “ That Shri G. V. Mavalankar be chosen as the Speaker of this and occupies this Chair. The matter House.” can be taken in the Privileges Com mittee of the House or something like Shri Chinaria (Mohindergarh): I that. Surely this is not a matter to be beg to second the motion. discussed at present. Election of Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker
The question is; The House divided; Ayes, 394; Noes, “That Shri G. V. Mavalankar 55. be chosen as the Speaker of this House.”
Diviiion Ho 1. AYES [ 1106 A IL ^bdaUahabal MuUaJ Chandrasekhar, Shrimatl Ghosh, Shri A. ^ bd us Sattar, Shri : Charak, Shri Ghulam Qadar, Shri JLchal Singh, Seth Chatterjee, Shri N. C.T Glri, Shri V. V. Achint Bam, Lala Chatterjee, Dr. Susilranjan | Qiridhari Bhoi, Shri Achuthan, Shri Chaturvedi, Shri Gohain, Shri Agam Dasjl, Shri Chaudhary, Shri G. L. Qopi Bam, Shri Aggarwal, Acharya Chaudhury, Shri a . K. Gounder, Shri K. P. Agarwal, Shri H. L. Chavda, Shri Oounder, Shri K. S. Chettlar, Shri Nagappa Agarawal, Shri M. L« Govlnd Das, Seth Chettiar, Shri T. S. A. Ajit Singh, Shri Guha, Shri A. C, Chlnaria, Shri ^ -AJit Siughji. General Gupta, Shri Badshah Chaudhri, Shri M. Shaffee Akarpuri, Sardar Hari Mohan, Dr. Alagesan, Shri i Dabhi. Shri Hazarika, Shri J. N. Heda, Shri -Altekar, Shri Damar, Shri Hem BaJ, Shri Alva, Shri Joachim Damodaran, Shri G. E. Hembrom, Shri Amin, Dr. Das, Dr. M. M. Hukam Singh, Shri Amrit Kaur, Bajkumari Das, Shri B. K. Anandchand, Shri Hyder Husein, Ch. Das, ShrlBeU Bam Ansari, Dr. Ibrahim, Shri Das. S h rlK .K . Anthony, Shri Frank Islamuddin, Shri N. Das, Shri Bam Dhanl, Aathana, Shri lyj'anj, Shri E. Das, Shri Bamananda Ayyangar, Shri M. A. lyyunnl, Shri C. B. Das, Shri S. N. Azad, Maulana Das, Shri N. T. Jagjivan Bam, Shri Badan Singh, Ch. Jain, Shri A. P. Datar, Shri Bahadur Singh, Shri Jain, Shri N. S. Deb, Shri S. C. Balasubramaniam, Shri Jaipal Singh, Shri Deo, Shri B. N .S. Baldev Singh, Sardar Jajware, Shri Deogam, Shri ‘ Balakrtshnan, Shri Desal, Shri K. N. Jangde, Shri Balmiki. Shri Deahmukh, Shri C. D. Jasani, Shri Banerjee, Shri Deehmukh, Shri K. G. Jatav-\ir, Shri Bacsal, Shri Deshmukh, Dr. P. S. Jayaahri, Shrimatl Barman, Shri Deshpande, Shri G. H.. Jena, Shri Lakahmldhar Barrow, Shri Deshpande. Shri V. G. Jena, Shri Nlranjan Barupal, Shri Dholakia, Shri Jethan, Shri Baaappa, Shri Dhulekar, Shri Jha, Shri Bhagwat Basu, Shri A. K. Dhusiya, Shri Bhagat, Shri B. B. Jhunjhunwala, Shri Bhakta Darshan, Shri Digambar Singh, Shri Jogendra Singh, Sardar Doraswamy, Shri Bhandari, Shri Joshl, Shri JethaUl Dube, Shri Mulchand Bharati, Shri G. S. Joshi, Shri ZrishnacharyB :Bharatiya, Shri S. B. Dube, Shri U. S. Joshi, Shri T.naHhnr Bhargava, Pandit M. B. Dubey, Shri B. G. Joshi, Shri M. D. Bhargava, Pandit Thakur Das Dutt, Shri A. K. Joshi, Shri N. L. Dutta, Shri S. K. Bhatkar, Shri Joshi, Shrimatl Subhadn Dwivedi, Shri D. P. Bhawani Singh, Shri Jawala Prasad, Shri Dwivedi, Shri M. L. Bheekha Bhai, Shri Kajrolkar, Shri Uhonslc, Major-General Ebenezer, Dr. Kakkan, Shri Bidari, Shri Elayapenimal, Shri Kale, ShrimaU A, Blrbal Singh, Shri Fotedar, Pandit KamaraJ, Shri Bogawat, Shri Gadgll, Shri Kamble, Shri • Borooah, Shri Gandhi, Shri Peroze Karmarkar, Shri Bose, Shri P. C. ' Gandhi, Shri M. M. Kami Singhjl, Shri Brajeahwar Prasad, Shri Gandhi, Shri V. B. Kasiiwal, Shri Brohmo-Choudhury, Shri Ganga Devi, Shrimati Katham, Shri Buragohain, Shri Ganpatl Bam, Shri Katju, Dr. Chacko, Shri Garg, Shri B. P. Kaushlk, Shri Chanda, Shri Anil K. Gautam, Shri C. D. KeshaTalengar, Shr 'Ohandak, Shri Ghoae, Shri S. M. Keskar, Dr. 25 Election of Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker
Naskar, Shri P. S. Khan, Rhri S. A. Sakhare, Shri Natawadkar, Shri Khedkar, Shri G. B. Sakaena, Shri Mohanlal Natesan, Shri Khongmen, .Shrlmat i Samanta, Shri S. C. Nathwani, Shri N. P. Khuda Baksh, Shri M. Sanganna, Shri Nehru, Shri Jawaharlal Kidwai, Shri Sankarapandian, Shri Nehru, Shrimati Uma Kirolikar, Shri Sarmah, Shri Nesamoney, Shri Kolay, Shri Satish Chandra, Shri Neswi, Shri Krishna Chandra, Shri Satyawadi, Dr. Nevatia, Shri Sen, Shri P. G. Krishnamachari, Shri T. T. Nijalingappa, Shri Sen, Shri R. C. Krishnappa, Shri N. V. Panda, Shri C. D. Sen, Shrimati Sushama Kureel, Shri B. N. Pandey, Dr. Natabar Kureel, Shri P. L, Sewal, Shri A. R. Pannalal, Shri Lai, Shri R. S. Shah, Shri C. C. Pant, Shri D. D. ’ Lai Singh, Sardar Shah, Shri R. B. Paragi Lai, Ch. Lallanji, Shri Surlya Praead, Shri Tivar>% Shri V. N. Uradhyaya, Shri S. D. Swami, Shri Sivamurthi Tiwari, Pandit B. L. Vaishnav, Shri H. O. Swaminadhan, Shrlmati Ammu Tiwari, Shri R. S. Valshya, Shri M. B. Swamy, Shri N. R. M. Tiwary, Pandit D. N. Varma, Shri B. B. Syed Ahmed, Shri Tripathi, Shri H. V. Varma, Shri B. R. Syed Mahmud, Dr. Tripathi, Shri K. P. Vartik, Sliri Tek Chand, Shri Tripahti, Shri V. D. Yenkataraman, Shri fTelkikar, Shri Tudu, Shri B. L. Vidyalankar, Shri Tewari, Sardar R. B. S. Tuldidas, Shri Vishwanath Pra.«id, Shri Thimmaiah, Shri Tyapi. Shri WUson, Shri J. N. Thirani^Shri Uikey, Shri Wodeyar Shri Thomas, Shri A. M. Upadhyay, Shri M. D. Zaldi. Col. Thomas, Shri A. T. Upadhyay, Shri Shiva Dayal NOES Achalu, Shri Kelappan, Shri Randamau Singh, Shn Basu, Shri K. K. Kripalani, Shrimati Such^ta Rao, Shri Gopala Biren Dutt, Shri Krishna, Shri M. R. Rao, Shri K. S. Boovaraghaaamy, Shri Mangalagiri, Shri Rao, Shri P. R. Buchhikotaiah, Shri Maacarene, Kumari Annie Rao, Shri P. Subba Chakravartty, Shrimati Renu Menon, Shri Damodara Rao, Shri Mohana Chatterjea, Shri Tushar Mukerjeo, Shri H. N. Chattopadhyaya, Shri Muchaki Koaa, Shri Rao, Shri Vittal Chaudhuri, Shri T. K. Muniswamy, Shri Reddi, Shri B. Y. Chowdhary, Shri C. R. Murtliy, Shri B. S. Reddy, Shri Eswara Chowdhury, Shri N. B. Nair, Shri N. S. Reddy, Shri R. N. Damodaran, Shri N. P. Nardsimham. Shri S. V. L. Richardson, Bishop D IS, Shri B. C. Nnyar, Shri V. P. Saha, SJxri Meghnad Daaaratha Deb, Shri Paranjpe, Shri Sathianatlian, Shri Gopalan, Shri A. K. Parmar, Shri R. B. Singh, Shri H. P. Veeraswamy, Shri Gunipadaswamy, Shri Punnoose, Shri Jaieoorja, Dr. Ragabachari, Shri VelO'udhan. Shri. Kachiroyar, Shn Raghavaiah, Shri Waghmare, Shri Kandasamy, Shri Ramuarayau Singh, Babu The motion was adopted. Mr. Chairman: I declare that those of us who have had this experi Shri G. V. Mavalankar has been duly ence for a number of years, ftnd it elected as the Speaker of this House. T rather difficult to think of that Chair have now much pleasure in inviting and this House without you. You have Shri G. V. Mavalankar to occupy the become so much a part of this Hcuse Chair. . and its proceedings. I have been functioning in various capacities now for 5i years or so in this House. I was [S h r i G. V. M a v a la n k a r was con ducted to the Chair by the hon. Prime in no previous House and I know of Minister^ the hon. Maulana Ahul Kalam no other Speaker. Whenever the Ques Azad and Shri A. K. Gopalan.] tion of Speaker comes to my uind, it is associated with you and you only. Shri Jawaharlal Nehru: Mr. Speaker, During the past few years, those Sir, I do not know whether to con who have been functioning m the gratulate you or the House on this Provisional Parliament nnd before in occasion. It is a very high honour for the Assembly have had a good deal of any person to be, as Sipeaker, the head experience of seeing how you carried of this great Parliament and if I may on the work of this House, how in all say so, it is an honour and a privilege gentleness and yet, with all firmness for us in the House to have you in that you kept us, erring people, in order Chair. without the slightest favour or partia lity to any one, and you imoressed us We are a mixed assembly here; with that impartiality, with that ability mixed in the sense that some have and with that dignity vhich should been here, not in this particular Parlip- attach to that high office which voa ment, but functioning in this Chamber occupy. , for a large number of years, some for a few years and many are newconicr^. We are entering a new ihase and Those who are new to this House, the new Parliament is meeting It is naturally, have no experience of you. of the greatest advantage to this Sir, functionina in that Chair. But, Parliament and to this House that yott^ 29 Election of Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker 30 [Shri Jawaharlal Nehru] with all your experience, are there to Uefortunately some of these conven guide us, and if we go astray, to pull tions have become a casualty even at us back and where necessary to the very first meeting of our House. admonish us and to chide us. As 1 understand the English conven tion, when a Speaker is to be pro I would beg to express agaiti my posed, some of the back benchers are sense of great pleasure, ^^nd il I may selected for proposing and seconding say so, on behait of the entire House, the name of the Speaker. Why do they their sense of pleasure at this election, do so? Because by observing this con and to assure you that even though vention a sort of assurance is given to we may err often, we shall always the minority that their interests will come back to the right path whtn told be protected and that the Speaker will by you to do so. deal with the minority in an impartial ‘ Shri S. S. More (Sholapur): Sir, as manner. I do not want to quote books, the hon. Prime Minister and Leader because it is not necessary now. Un of the House said just now, I am one fortunately in this House, the hon. the of the newcomers J.o this House and Leader of the House thought it fit to so I may offend some of the rules. Un propose your name and another hon. fortunately, the Rules of Procedure and Minister thought it advisable to Conduct of Business have not been second it. I believe that if some supplied to us. and if I commit any back benchers—and there is no dearth breech, I hope you will pardon me for of back benchers on their side— had that. been selected for proposing your name, that would have been the proper Sir, I congratulate you. I am the procedure to emphasise your im defeated candidate and yet none is partiality. happier on your election Jian myselt. In the best traditions of Parliament, a 1 do not v^'ant to say any platitudes. gracious custom prevails by which Unfortunately I belong to this side of where two candidate are proposed for the H<-use and I use the word “un the Speakership, each candidate votes fortunately” because we have to fight for the other candidate. l have against the steam-roller of the Con observed that custom by voting for gress. There are so many victorious you. leaders of the victorious party here and it is not unusual that the wine of I entirely agree with ^he Leader of victory goes to their heads and the the House that we are sntering a new minorities suffer. It will be your func phase. We are the pioneers. As the tion, your most noble mission, to pre President said in his recent statement, serve our rights and safeguard our in this country there were some re privileges. I have no hesitation in publics but we know nothm^ about saying that you would stand up to our their procedure. Now we arc again expectations. I can assure you. trying lo travel on the <;amc path and Sir. on behalf of myself and some we are striving to build up a new of the Members who are sitting on this Republic but a new Republic under side that we shall be entering many a modern conditions works and func battle with the party in power but in tions through conventions and by fighting these battles we shall observe parliamentary procedure. Our Parlia all the rules of the game. But the mentary procedure. as I understand observance of the rules of the game is it, has been substantially taken from not a one-sided affair: it is not a that of the House of Commons where one-way traffic and I do also hope that they decide things by discussion. For the other side, though sure of their the purpose of such discussion there might or strength, shaU show greater is a party in office and there is an tolerance and consideration than they official Opposition. Unfortunately -or usually do. fortunately, I do not know definitelv wViicb it ’ s. I belonp to thp small Shri A. K. Gopalan: Mr. Speaker, minority. I assume, and you, Sir, will on behalf of the hon. Members belong confirm, if my assumption is correct ing to the Communist Party, the single that, in many matters on which our largest party in this Parliament on rules are deficient or silent we shall this side, I heartily greet you and con be following some 'of the healthy gratulate you on this occasion because customs of the House of Commons. you have been elected as the Speaker. The House of Commons had taken The old Parliament which you nad more than five hundred years to piloted till now as the Speaker was evolve their procedure and after that different from the new one, which re long and troublesome experience they flects in good numbers young and new have come to certain conclusions. We oeople belonging to different parties. too shall traverse our path guided by ?rouDs and individuals. The preat the light of those conventions. tradition that our late Vithalbhai Patel 31 Election o/ Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker 32 had created, by casting his vote even to establish conventions and tradi against the Government when a BiU tions for the proper growth of demo was sponsored by the name of the cratic life in free India. And today Pubhc Safety Bill, that gre«t tradition, you have been installed in office again I hope will be followed by you. as the first Speaker of the first elected Sir, conventions and traditions are House of the People of Free India. created for the convenience of the We shall be passing through difficult people and to suit circumstances and I times but I have not the least doubt hope Uhat the conventions and tradi.- that the dignity and the rights of the tions that had been created sc far will Members of the House will be safe in be changed according to circumstances. your hands. No doubt we shall draw When once you are elected as Speaker, upon the rules and conventions, when you belong not to any single party but ever necessary, from the great House of Commons but I believe in our to all of us. You belong to us all the moment you have been chosen to country circumstances will arise from occupy the honourable Chair. I trust, tirrfip to time which may necessitate a Mr. Speaker, in discharging your great change in the conventions which might be accepted in other countries. For, responsibility you will certainly see after all, the paramount gonsideration that the minority party inside the will be the interests and welfare of the House as also the new people, as the masses of the people and the advance Prime Minister said, who do not know the rules of procedure nor much about ment of the best interests of the coun parliamentary procedure here, are try. treated with sympathy. As far as we The previous speakers have refer are concerned, I assure you that you red to the need for adopting sound will have our fullest co-operation in rules and healthy conventions. But, if the discharge of your duties. But we you will allow me to say it, I am not wish to tell you that though we are very happy at the way in which the here in a minority, we represent a establishment of sound conventions large number of people and interests has been retarded in the selection of outside thie Parliament and as such the Speaker. We would have been you will be pleased to safeguard our happier if you had stood for re-election interests and privileges and see that as an independent candidate and not in order to strengthen democracy in as a candidate on behalf of any parti this country as far as possible, the cular party. That is a convention Opposition parties, as well as the pri which is accepted thr'^ughout the vileges of all the Members of this world and no one opposes such a re House, are safeguarded. You will see election of a Speaker. Again, Sir. in that a new tradition and convention your selection it would have been is created by you. so that we may feel better if the Leader of the House had that here inside this Parliament our consulted the Opposition, at least in privileges and rights are safeguarded formally. before your name was and that a new era is beginning after selected. I believe, if that attempt had the elections through adult franchise. been made perhaps the election of the Speaker might have been unanimous. I assure you once more of our fullest I do not know why such an attempt co-operation in the discharge of your was not made. I do not wish to enter duties and we heartily congratulate a jarring note t o d a y , but what I do you once more and recognise you as wish to emphasise is that it should be one who will safeguard our interests up to all of us. whether we are in the here. I greet you and congratulate you Government or in the Opposition, to promising you our fullest co-operation establish healthy conventions and in the discharge of your duties. traditions w’hich we will ourselves Dr. S. P. Mookerjee (Calcutta respect and which we will gladly hand South-East): Mr. Speaker, may I join over to those who will come after us. in the tribute which has just been This is the first Parliament which paid to you and the felicitations will have a sizeable Opposition. Of offered to you. You are not new to course, the size of the Treasury this great office. In fact when the his Benches and the Government Party is tory of the constitutional development big enough, but still for the first time of India is written, your name will in Free India we are going to have a occupy a unique position. You were Parliament where the Opposition will the* last Speaker in the old Indian not be negligible. It will be for you to Legislative Assembly, to which you spe how conventions and traditions were elected through the votes of the are respected so that a healthy con Opposition defeating the official candi stitutional life may develop within the date of the day. You were the first walls of this House. Undou^'edly, the , Speaker in the Provisional Parliament work that we can do here is limited to and although that House came to be some extent— it is not possible for composed indirectly and not through a ' body to commit a revolution inside direct election, yet it fell to your lot the Parliament—we have to proceed 'Election of Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker 34 [Dr. S. P. Mookerjee] in accordance with the democratic you have been handling this difficult traditions and proceed along the path work during the last Parliament with of constitutionalism. But here in delicacy. But today the character of developing the true rights of demo the Parliament is greatly changed. cracy it will be necessary both for the This House is not what it was. For Government and for the Opposition the first time after the attainment of to play their part. As Mr. More has Independence we have been returned rightly pointed out, both must play on the popular vote. Not only the the game and in that difficult task it members of the Congress Party, but will be for you. Sir. to guide the members of various other political deliberations of the House in such a parties and Independent Members :ire way that although we may differ on representing the people of India in certain issues we may all be given a this House. Many of these parties are chance to express our viewpoint and numerically small, but I trust that the act as a check on the possible whims rights and privileges, not only of all of the majority party. India must prc.- the parties, but of each Member would ceed from progress to progress and we be safe in your hands. all must be able to help in advancing the true interests - of the millions of You have also another delicate task the Indian masses. I assure you tnat before you. This Parliament will lay there will be no hesitation on the part down the traditions and conventions of the Members of the Opposition, for the working of a true democracy. collectively speaking, to stand by you Even the Legislatures in the different in your attempt to establish healihy States would look to us for guidance. conventions and stand up for the Therefore, we will not only have to d i g n it y and the rights of the House think of the present but of the future. which represents after all the people If we succeed in laying down nealthy of this free country. democratic traditions, we shall be lay ing the foundation of real democracy in this country. I, therefore, hooe, Shri Sarangadhar Das (Dhenkanal— under your able and experienced gt’ id- West Cuttack): Mr. Speaker, I also ance. the rights and privileges of the join in congratulating you on your numerically small parties and the success in this election. I trust and I Independent Members will be s:ife- believe that now that there is an guarded. and such conventions and Opposition, although it consists of traditions will be (established as to several parties, it will be conducive to build up a great democracy in India. I the growth of healthy conventions, and need not assure you of the help and I trust that you. Sir, as the Speaker, co-operation of my party in this task. above party politics, will safeguard In the end may I wish you nil success. and preserve the rights and privileges of the Opposi"^ion which is in a mino Kumari Annie Mascarene (Trivan rity. I am sure this is the convention, drum): Mr. Speaker. I represent no that is to safeguard the rights of every part.y but I beg to submit that I re Member of the House, but I plead with present the biggest majority of mv you to pay more attention to the sex not only in India hiit in the whole minority which is in Opposition— world. Unfortunately, that biggest parties, groups and individuals— and majority had not been given its due thereby give an ooportunity to the representation in this House— and that whole House to establish healthy con due to the selfishness, not of my sex. ventions which will be handed down To speak the truth, Travancore-Cochin from generation to generation. State has not had the consideration which even the biggest political With these words. I again congratu party...... late you and on behalf of the msm- bers of the Socialist Party I offer the Mr. Speaker; Order, order. On an full '’o-oDera+ion of my oPrty here in occasion like this, just a few senti helping you to hold the scales of justice ments may be exoressed. Let us not even. go anv i^isoncsinn about this n^rtv or that party, this State or that State. Shrimati Sucbeta Knpalani (New It will be not onlv out of place but it De\’ii): Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure mars the happiness of the occasion. to me to felicitate you on behalf of myself and the memb^?rs of my oarty, Kumari Annie Mascarene: I ‘ ?m the Kisan Mazdoor Pra.ia Party, on s o r r v . Fir. I withdraw those state your re-election as Speaker of tnis ments. On bphalf of those few ladies House. The Soeaker’s position is very here I hope that you will give us suffi liich as he is the custodian of the cient nrotef'tion and opnortunities of rights and privileges of the House. exoressing our ooinion in this House. His responsibililies are very difficult I congratulate you with all my heart. and delicate to perform. Sir, we know I would only beg to submit that just 38 Election of Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker. 80 as England and America have estab proceedings of the House as visitors lished traditions which are centuries and we have also known your repu old why not we Indians establish our tation as Speaker. While I congratu own traditions based on Indian senti late you on your election to this high ments and Indian political feelings? post, I fully associate myself with the sentiments that have already been ex With these words, Sir, I congratu pressed. I have full confidence that you late you once more with all my heart. will safeguard the interests, privileges and rights of all Members of the Shri Hukam Singh (Kapurthalar- House. Bhatinda): On behalf of my party, however small it is, I take this But I would like to bring to your opportunity to offer my greetings and notice one fact, namely, that the pr^ felicitations at this great moment. sent House is nearly double in And then, as has been correctly stated, strength compared to the previous though it is a very great honour for House and even in the previous House you to be chosen as Speaker, I do many Members had great difficulty in believe that it is a greater honour for catching your eye. I remember to have us Members to have you back in the read somewhere that you had once Chair. Those who have worked with said that it depends upon you whether you during the last three or four you would seo someone even if your years know that they need have no eyes are open. Of course, I speak sub fears about the growth of conventions ject to correction. I wish, Sir, that you and establishment of healthy practices. were endowed with a hundred if not I am sure every Member would be. a thousand eyes, but I have one satisfied in getting impartial treatment prayer. May God endow you with a and the minority need not have any third eye, the jnan chakshu, so that no fear—I can assure them on the basis Member would escape your notice and of the experience that I have had even those who have the misfortune during the last three years. to sit behind the pillars would be able to catch your eye. On behalf of the Members that I represent and other friends, I assure I need not take more time of the you of our full co-operation in the House. All the sentiments that are discharge of your duties which you. appropriate to this occasion have have entered just now. already been expressed and I whole- hearredly associate myself with them. Shri N. C. Chatterjee (Hooghly): In conclusion I offer you once again Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Hindu my hearty congratulations and also the Mahasabha. I desire to associate my co-operation of the party to which I self with the congratulations which belong. have been offered to you. It is a great An Hon. Member: What party? honour to be elected to the post of Speaker and I only wish that it had An Hon. Member: Ganatantra Pari- been possible to have a unanimous shad. election in respect of the Speakership. Shri T. K. Chandhori: I should like I wish that the Leader of the House to associate myself with the senti had taken all parties into confidence ments that have been expressed on befor- nominating you. I hope you will your election as the Speaker of this remember one patent fact, namely, august House. I as the spokesman of that the party in D O w er does not re one of the smallest groups in Opposi present the majority of the electorate tion in this House...... and the Opposition represents a very laree section of the public. I hope you An Hon. Member: What group? will do justice to all and you ^yill Shri T. K. Chaudhuri: The Revolu convince people, both inside the Legis tionary Socialist Party. lature and outside, that justice will be done. We offer you our whole An Hon. Member: How many mem hearted support and promise you our bers? • full co-ooeration in the discharge of your duties. Mr. Speaker: Order, order. Let there bo no talk like this. He has got Shri R. N. S. Deo (Kalahandi- the liberty of evpressing his point of Bolahgir): Mr. Sneaker, I belong to a view, irrespective of the strength of party which consists of all members his group. who have come newly to this ParM.n- ment. Becnu'-o we are new Members Shri T, K. ChaTidhnri: As the spokes we are unaw’are of the rules and pro man of one of the smallest groups in cedure of this House and we have Opposition here, I would submit that never had the good fortune of seeing we evnect that the rights and privi you work as the Speaker of this House. leges of the Opposition will not only But we have had occasion to see the be safe in your hands but that you 24 PSD. . Election of Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker. 38 [Shri T. K. Chaudhuri] would uphold those rights and if there be any occasion for expressing ^ ^ ^ #5 ^ qr ^ 5T any bias, that bias would be shown ^ % ^TTRT1 % ^ 13 fh : ^ in favour of the Opposition. ^ ^ fW t 3R>n: spT 12 N o o n f I ^ ^ ^ arrr ^ arfin^ (^ iW r): arezRT fw t 3fk 3T^ ^ I fV % ^rrw r, ^ ^ ^ ^ arrr ^ ^tt fn^qn f f% arrr 3iH 5rm ^ 3TTf^ ^ 21^ % *♦>1^ ^ ^ ^ 5RiR % WRT pnfq^r ^FT»T ^ 3rnr 3r ^ i ^ ^ ^ ^Tl-s ^ Hi»fl ^ ITR^ % 3TT^ ^ # 5?r: TFRFriT ^ sftr ^ 3fT ^ ^ ^ % ^ «rfN> TnTTT^ir «ll^ aftr ^ w^cfhr 3fir ^rwrar ^ ^TR^ % cqf^^pft 5f>t aftr % 3iTT ^ 3rf^- ^ ^ I t ^ 5T5^ 5 I 99 Election of Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker. 40 (English translntion of the above whole. All wish to see India prosoer. speech) May be we have so-called ideological Sbri N. L. Sharma (Sikar): Sir, differences. I pray they could be over my decision to speak in Hindi come and we may become a united today is a deliberate one. I do so out Nation, aspiring for the prosperity of of a consciousness that I am speaking our motherland and striving cease in the Parliament of Bharat and further lessly towards that end. that just now I represent this I, therefore, hope that you will be House as a whole rather than the Ram guided by this lofty principle in oro- Rajya Parishad alone. The ideal of tecting all the interests represented Ramrajya has been an accepted goal here in this House in a way that high for India and the entire structure of Indian traditions may ultimately be our administration is based thereon. established. With this hope, I wel The late Mahatma Gandhi had used come you not only on behalf, of the this expression time without numbers . Ram Rajya Parishad, but also on be in his life-time. In the name of that Ramrajya— and claiming to represent half of all those in this country who wish to realize the ideal of Ramrajya. India as a whole—I congratulate you on your elevation to this exalted office— Shri R. K. Chandhuri (Gauhatl); which is verily the seat of Dharmxi. Mr. Sneaker, may I say a few words My submission is that emulation of on behalf of the back-benchers? all conventions of the House of Com Mr. Speaker: Shri Rohini Kumar’ " mons should not be regarded as the request has given me an opportunitv bounden duty of this House. In the of reminding hon. Members that w. remote past when England was no have had sufficient speeches. I am where conspicuous on the world map trying to give the different parties an and, from the viewpoint of civilization, opDortunity to express themselves— the whole of Europe was wrapped in not as to how the Parliament’s work utter darkness, the art of administra has to be done, or as to how conven tion here in this country was at its tions should be set up, but a few words zenith. I, therefore, feel confident that and nothing beyond that. I do not in the conduct of all the business in think I should call now a much larger this House you will not be guided by number of neople, because all the western conventions alone but also by Dossible parties that I had known of our own conventions which we have have already had a chance. inherited as the fundamentals of our politics from great statesmen like I shall now call upon Shri Guru- Chanakya, Vidur and even from earlier padaswamy. political sages like Manu, Vashisht and Vamdev. I am confident that under An Hon. Member: How about the your lead a real ‘Bharatiya’ spirit will Scheduled Castes Federation? pervade this House and not long before the Indian culture and civiliza Mr. Speaker: We shall see about tion will attain their traditional heights. that. This explains why we of the Ram Shri R. K. Chaudhuri rose* Rajya Parishad, despite sitting in opposition, are not opposed to any Mr. Speaker: As an old Member he particular party nor entertain malice understands the position. towards anyone. We welcome you and have the confidence that you will pro Shri Ganipadaswamy (Mysore): tect the rights and interests of all the Mr. Speaker, I do not want to take groups and parties represented here much time of the House. I do not and, in particular, of those who want know whether I belong to the back to see the cause of Indian culture pros bench or front bench. Anyway I am a per. We believe under you this House Member of Parliament duly elected. will assume a true Bharatiya com plexion very soon and it will no longer An Hon. Member: To which party be a copied pattern of a similar House do you belong? of any other country. I have no inten Shri Gumpadaswamy: I belong to tion to use any unpleasant words or the K. M. P. Party. phrase on such an occasion like this nor do I harbour any such desire for the future. I earnestly hope that no Many youngsters have come to this occasion will arise necessitating the first elected Parliament of the Repub same. lic of India. As every hon. Member knows democracy is Government by I have one request to make to the discussion and this House is an instru party in power—that they should not ment of such discussion and the res regard any particular party as opposed ponsibility devolves on you to make to them. For one thing none here is op this a great success. Sir, I hope and posed to the interests of India as a trust that during your term of office 41 Election of Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker, 42 [Shri Gurupadaswamy] ponsibilities, both because of the con you will give sufficient opportunities fidence, as also of the nature of the to young Members who have come to office—not to add the changed charac this Parliament. ter of the House and the number of I congratulate you, Sir, on your parties— I confess, I feel a sense of election as Speaker of this august nervousness and bewilderment. But, House. having faith in the generosity of the House and its spirit of co-operation, I am emboldened to shoulder the res ^ o x ^ o Tnrvfhr ponsibilities. (^ft^ypTT— ^rrf^): Obviously, the character of this House is different from its predeces 3iwsr ^ sors. Uptill now, whatever our ideolo gies and noiions of public welfare and ^ # a rrr • the functions of Government, we were all engaged in dislodging the foreign ^ aftr 3TRTT sfrra'T ^ ftr rule in our land; we have been suc cessful in achieving independence, to P t 3TFT ^ ^ f TT 3T1T fin T and we are now masters of our own srf^^TRf ^ i 4 destinies. But the very fact of the end of the foreign rule has brought to the ^ pR arrr^i forefront, the vast differences in ideo logies; and though our objective is ^ 3ftr 3rrr ^ i common, as defined in the Constitu tion, we differ widely and sharply as [Shri p. N. RajabhoJ (Sholapur— regards the ways and means. This is Reserved— Sch. Castes): Sir, I con but natural, and in a sense necessary gratulate you on behalf of the All also, for any parliamentary Governr India Scheduled Castes’ Federation. I ment to function properly and for the hope you would fully safeguard our real benefit of the people. At the same rights even though we are in a minority time, each one of us has to remember here. Once again offering my greetings that, howsoever great the difference in viewpoints and methods, we are I welcome you.] all meeting here, as representatives of Shri Pocker Saheb (Malappuram). the nation, for one common cause, Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Muslim which is, in the language of the Pre League Party—of which I happen to amble to the Constitution, “ to secure be the sole representative in this to all its citizens, .iustice, liberty, House—I rise to congratulate you equality and fraternity” . All that we heartily on your having been duly speak or do here has to be looked at elected as Speaker of this House. You, and judged in this background of our Sir, are not new to Parliament; nor common ideal: and each one of us has am I. I entirely associate myself with to see for himself as to whether and the sentiments expressed by the how far he helps “ to secure to all the various previous speakers. In this con citizens” what the Constitution aims nection I wish to say that it is not at. Consciousness of this limitation possible to think of the Speakership of will, I am sure, go a great way to this House without associating it with ensure the reauisite atmosphere for you. The experience which you have the efficient functioning of a parlia gained will be a great asset to this mentary democracy. House. Bv the impartiality of your A parliamentary Government is conduct and the consideration that you described as Government by discus have given to the minority, you have sion. Every Member has the fullest endeared yourself not only to the Mem liberty to express his own views, re bers of this House but also to the membering that every other Member whole of India. has the same liberty. It becomes neces I congratulate you. Sir, once again sary, therefore, to exercise restraint and thank you for the opportunity on the contents and the extent, as also which you have given to me—^who is on the language of the discussion. An in a minority of one— to speak on this atmosphere of sportsmanship, mutual occasion. goodwill and respect is an essential condition for the debates being useful, Mr. Speaker: I am deeply grateful helpful and effective. This, in turn, to ihe hon. Members of thr* House for ■will mean a discipHned mind, which the confidence they have expressed in will respect, not only rules and regu me by electing me to this high office lations, but also the innumerable con and for the honour conferred on me. ventions of parliamentary debates, of being the first Sneaker of the first everyone of which cannot obviously l^oublican Parliament under the Con be the subject of a rule '>r regulation, stitution. When I think of the res 43 Election of Speaker 15 MAY 1952 Election of Speaker. To the extent to which persons bold strive for the establishment of that ing different points of view, or ideo ideal, it is obviously not possible, in logies exhibit the qualities of toler the present conditions of our political ance, **give and take” , and make an and parUamentary life, to remain as effort to ujiderstaiid the differing insular as the English Speaker, so far points of view, to that extent only, the as political life goes. But the Indian parliamentary Government stands the Speaker acting as such will be abso chance of being successful. It is not lutely a non-party man, meaning tht-re- j-o much the laws or the regulations by that he keeps aloof from party that will bring the desired results as deliberations and controversies; he the spirit in which the persons does not cease to be a politician merely charged with responsibility act to by the fact of his being a Speaker. wards each other. We have yet to evolve political parties Our Constitution has mainly adopted and healthy conventions about Speaker-* the English model for our Parliament. ship, the principle of which is that, Legislative institutions from the time once a Speaker he is not opposed by of their introduction in India have any party in the matter of his election, been moulded on the same lines for whether in the Constituency or in the obvious historical reasons. Meiny of House, so long as he wishes to con the rules of procedure and stemdards tinue as a Speaker. To expect the of conduct current in the British Speaker to be out of politics alto House of Commons are the outcome of gether without the corresponding con experience of long-standing. To vention is perhaps entertaining con the extent they deal with general tradictory expectations. From this human nature, they serve us as point of view, as also from my moor good precedents by which we may ings in the past, I cannot be out of profit. Such of the English conven that great organisation—the Indian tions or forms, as are the result of the National Congress—^under whose ban- history of their struggle for freedom, ?:er I have had the privilege of serving, will have to be viewed differently; and in one capacity or another for the last it will be up to us, to evolve our con forty years. I, therefore, continue to ventions and forms in the background be a Congressman just as any Indian of our national character, genius, his can continue to be a Hindu or a Mus tory and culture. Parliamentary life lim or a Parsee, etc., and stiU he is no has only recently begun in our land less an Indian so far as the national and it is yet a tender plant that questions are concerned. Similarly, requires delicate and careful handl though a Congressman, it would be my ing—and. if I may say so, careful duty and effort to deal with all Mem nursing. It is, therefore, the special bers and sections of the House with responsibility of this Parliament to set justice and equity, and it would be up sound and healthy traditions, as, my duty to be impartial and remain whatever we do now, is more likely to above all considerations of party or of be a precedent for all times to come. poitical career. Unless, therefore, we keep continuity In conclusion, I earnestly request and rospect traditions, it will be diffi all the hon. Members to extend to cult to have stable Governments in the me their willing and effective co land which may be able to serve our operation promised in so many people in the manner we desire. speeches on the floor of tJie House— I consider it necessary to say a few in conducting the proceedings of this words about the non-party character House. of the Speaker in view of the practice in England. The position of the English I thank the hon. Members again. Speaker is a matter of historical growth and it has been established, at There is one announcement which I the end of centuries of struggle of the have to make. The House is adjourned Commons for independence. Its evolu now and will meet again tomorrow tion to the present stage has taken Jhalf an hour after the President’s place after the establishment of the Address. I cannot give the exact time full authority of the Commons. The because I do not know how long those position is undoubtedly an ideal one, proceedings will last. provided It Is accompanied by the other essential corollaries o f demo The House then adjourned till FH- cracy. While, therefore, I sball always day» the 16t^ May, 1952, 24 PSD. ^ atfV^ •snr^ TTspftf^ ^ ^ ^