John and Andrew Bremner, …some notes

Extract from the Register of the Empire State Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. New York, The Society, 1899, 620 pgs.

Roll of Members.

Andrew Augustus Bremner

Manufacturer. Born in New York City, Dec. 31, 1812. Was colonel fifty years ago of the old 7th Regt., subsequently the 27th Regt., N.Y. State Artillery; Colonel of the 15th Regt. of Volunteers as Home Guard on Long Island from 1862 to 1865. Was Trustee of 18th Ward School, with Peter Cooper and others, about 1850, and otherwise conspicuous in affairs with his contemporaries. Member of the 7th Regt. Veteran Association, General Society of Mechanics and Tradesmen, and an early member of the Union League Club of . Son of Major Andrew Bremner (of 11th Regt. of N.Y. Heavy Artillery in 1812), and Catherine Sell; grandson of John Bremner and Barbara Nesbitt; great-grandson of Andrew Bremner.

JOHN BREMNER, (sometimes spelled Brymner and Brimner); born in Aberdeen, Scotland, April 2, 1737; died in Jamaica, N.Y. Jan 31 1807; associated with others in the Queens County, N.Y. as Minutemen for the defense of American Liberty; and from 1779 to 1781 was a private in Capt. Samuel Shaw’s Co., Col. Henry K. Van Rensselaers Regt. of Albany County Militia, - Andrew Augustus Bremner.

It’s quite likely that John, son of Andrew Bremner from Aberdeen, was related to the Aberdeen merchant group who were prominent in the earliest burgess and sasine records of Aberdeen. They were landowners in Old Aberdeen until the 15th century, and after recovering from their property losses there, went on to become prosperous in Aberdeen in the shipping business in the 18th century.

View genealogy of that Aberdeen Brebner family…

From the History of the First Reformed Dutch Church of Jamaica, L.I., Henry Onderdonk, 1884

October 1792 marked a turning point in the Church. From that time onward, the services were offered half the time in English and half in Dutch. Prior to this date, the services had been wholly in Dutch, and many of the younger congregation members simply couldn’t understand the language.

Monies paid out:

May 1st, 1804 John Bremner, Jr., English singer ₤4 4s.

From The Origin and history of Grace Church, Jamaica, New York, Horatio O. Ladd, 1914.

December 7th, 1800 John Bremner, bell January 31st, 1808 John Bremner’s estate, his bell, died Jan 29

And from New York City and vicinity during the war of 1812-1815… R.S. Guernsey, 1889-1895 Captain Andrew Bremner commanded an artillery company that was the first to volunteer to aid in constructing additional defensive walls in at Fort Green in Brooklyn on August 8th 1814. Family of Andrew Bremner, Aberdeen June 2004

1. Andrew Bremner #22785 b. c 1705?, Aberdeen?, ABD, SCT, m. (unidentified) #22786. Register of the Empire State Society, 1899. Children: 2. i John Bremner #22781 b. 02 APR 1737.

Second Generation

2. John Bremner #22781 (1.Andrew1) b. 02 APR 1737, Aberdeen, ABD, SCT,i m.ii Barbara Nesbitt #22782. John died 29 JAN 1808*, Jamaica, NY, USA.iii Signatory as Jamaica Minuteman, 1775 (Documents and Letters intended to illustrate the revolutionary incidents of Queens County; Henry Onerdonk, 1846.) Son died 1800? Charge for bell at Grace Church, 7th DEC 1800. (The Origin and History of Grace Church, Jamaica NY; H. LADD, 1914.). Children: 3. i Andrew Bremner #22778 b. c 1785?. ii John Bremner #22787. Noted as John Bremner, Jr., fore-singer in English at First Reformed Ducth Church of Jamaica, Long Island (Onerdonk, Henry; History of the First Reformed Dutch Church of Jamaica, L.I.; 1884).

Third Generation

3. Andrew Bremner #22778 (2.John2, 1.Andrew1) b. c 1785?, m. 11 NOV 1809, in St. Geo. Episcopal, Hempstead, NY,iv Catherine Sell #22779, (daughter of James Sell #22783 and Mary Thorne #22784). 1812: Major, 11th Regiment N.Y. Heavy Artillery. Children: 4. i Andrew Augustus Bremner #22780 b. 31 DEC 1812.

Fourth Generation

4. Andrew Augustus Bremner #22780 (3.Andrew3, 2.John2, 1.Andrew1) b. 31 DEC 1812, New York, NY, USA,2 occupation Farmer/Merchant, m. Maria C. (unidentified) #22953, b. Virginia, USA,v d. AUG 1891, Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY, USA,vi buried: 22 AUG 1891, Green Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY.vii Andrew died JUN 1907, Brooklyn, NY, USA,viii buried: 10 JUN 1907, Green Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, Kings Co. ix 1870: Lived North Hempstead, Queens. 1900: Lived with Son-in-law William ADAMS and family in Brooklyn, widowed. Children: 5. i Ella L. Bremner #22955 b. APR 1854. ii Sara A. Bremner #22954 b. c 1857, New York?, NY, USA.x

Fifth Generation

5. Ella L. Bremner #22955 (4.Andrew4, 3.Andrew3, 2.John2, 1.Andrew1) b. APR 1854, New York?, NY, USA,xi m. c 1877,xii William R. Adams #22956, b. JUN 1851, New York?, NY, USA,xiii (son of R.W. Adams #22962 and Lydia (unidentified) #22963) occupation Lumber Dealer, d. AUG 1918, Brooklyn, NY, USA,xiv buried: 09 AUG 1918, Green-Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY.xv Ella died 1926?, Brooklyn, NY, USA, buried: 19 MAY 1926, Green-Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY, USA.xvi 1920: Widowed, lived with children at 1327 Pacific St., Brooklyn. William: 1880: Lived with family at father's home in Brooklyn. 1900: Family lived at 1327 Pacific St., Brooklyn, NY; Father-in-Law Andrew BREMNER lived with family. Children: i Russell D. Adams #22957 b. OCT 1878, New York?, NY, USA.13 ii Clara Belle Adams #22958 b. SEP 1880, New York?, NY, USA,13 d. AUG 1953, Brooklyn, King's Co., NY, USA, buried: 24 AUG 1953, Green Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY.15 6. iii Ella Louise Adams #22959 b. JUL 1882.

Sixth Generation

6. Ella Louise Adams #22959 (5.Ella5, 4.Andrew4, 3.Andrew3, 2.John2, 1.Andrew1) b. JUL 1882, New York, NY, USA,13 m. Harry C. Hutchins #22960, occupation Civil Engineer. Harry: 1930: Family lived in Scarsdale, Westchester Co., NY; worked for water authority. Only one child shown 1920-30. Children: i Georgina May Hutchins #22961 b. c 1910, Brooklyn?, NY, USA.xvii

i "Register of the Empire State Society of the Sons of The American Revolution." New York, The Society, 1899. ii Register of the Empire State Society, 1899. iii Charged estate 31 JAN 1808 for bell; (The Origin and History of Grace Church, Jamaica, LI; H.O. LADD, 1914.); 31 JAN 1807... iv St. George's Episcopal Church Registers; Register of the Empire State Society, 1899. v 1880 New York census for daughter Ella gives birth state of Virginia. vi Husband Andrew widowed in 1900 NY census. vii Green Wood Cemetery ; Lot 26672, Section 197. viii With daughter in 1900 Brooklyn census; noit found 1910. ix Green Wood Cemetery x 1870 NY census; age/birth state. xi 1910 Brooklyn census; age/birthdate. xii 1910 census gives length of marriage as 33 years. xiii 1900 Brooklyn census; age/birthplace. xiv Wife Ella shown as widow in 1920 Brooklyn census. xv Green Wood Cemetery Lot 22227, Section 6. xvi Green Wood Cemetery Lot 22227, Section 6. (** verify **) xvii 1920 Brooklyn census; age/birthstate.