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CANADA House of Commons Debates VOLUME 138 Ï NUMBER 019 Ï 2nd SESSION Ï 37th PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Thursday, October 31, 2002 Speaker: The Honourable Peter Milliken CONTENTS (Table of Contents appears at back of this issue.) All parliamentary publications are available on the ``Parliamentary Internet Parlementaire´´ at the following address: http://www.parl.gc.ca 1109 HOUSE OF COMMONS Thursday, October 31, 2002 The House met at 10 a.m. [English] Prayers INTERPARLIAMENTARY DELEGATIONS Ms. Sarmite Bulte (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Canadian Heritage, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 34(1) I have the honour to present to the House a report from the (1000) Ï Canadian branch of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association [English] concerning the 48th CPA conference which was held from September 6 to 14, 2002, in Windhoek, Namibia. SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (A) 2002-2003 A message from Her Excellency the Governor General transmit- Mr. Bryon Wilfert (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of ting Supplementary Estimates (A) of the sums required for the fiscal Finance, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 34(1) I year ending on March 31, 2003, was presented by the Hon. President have the honour to present to the House, in both official languages, of the Treasury Board and read by the Speaker of the House. the report of the 9th General Assembly of the Asia-Pacific Mr. John Williams: I would like to ask whether the message Parliamentarians Conference on the Environment and Development from the Governor General which was just read is in proper order. held in Seoul, Korea, in July 2002. Ï (1005) The Speaker: As far as the Speaker can tell, it is. I also have the honour to present to the House, in both official languages, the report of the 23rd General Assembly of the ASEAN *** Inter-Parliamentary Organization, IPO, held in Hanoi, Vietnam, in GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO PETITIONS September 2002. Mr. Geoff Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, Ï (1010) pursuant to Standing Order 36(8) I have the honour to table, in both official languages, the government's response to 10 petitions. Mr. Geoff Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, *** pursuant to Standing Order 34(1) I have the honour to present to the PUBLIC SAFETY ACT, 2002 House, on behalf of the hon. member for Lac-Saint-Louis who could Hon. David Collenette (Minister of Transport, Lib.): moved for not be here at the moment, in both official languages, the report of leave to introduce Bill C-17, an act to amend certain acts of Canada, the Canadian delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary and to enact measures for implementing the Biological and Toxin Association to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Weapons Convention, in order to enhance public safety. Europe Parliamentary Assembly's 11th annual session in Berlin, Germany, from July 6 to 10, 2002. (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed) *** *** [Translation] CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP ACT YOUNG OFFENDERS ACT Hon. Denis Coderre (Minister of Citizenship and Immigra- tion, Lib.) moved for leave to introduce Bill C-18, An Act Mr. Chuck Cadman (Surrey North, Canadian Alliance) moved respecting Canadian citizenship. for leave to introduce Bill C-281, an act to amend the Young (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed) Offenders Act. 1110 COMMONS DEBATES October 31, 2002 Routine Proceedings He said: Mr. Speaker, I am reintroducing this bill that would [English] amend the Young Offenders Act to make an offence set out in section 7.2 as a hybrid offence. It deals with parental accountability COMMITTEES OF THE HOUSE with respect to signed undertakings to supervise court imposed conditions for interim release. PROCEDURE AND HOUSE AFFAIRS The bill was originally introduced in the 36th Parliament as Bill Mr. Peter Adams (Peterborough, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, as per the C-260 and as C-235 in the previous session of this Parliament. The notice we served 48 hours ago, I move that the second report of the Minister of Justice has recognized the value of this legislation as it Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented to has been incorporated verbatim in the new youth criminal justice act the House on Tuesday, October 29, be concurred in. The report deals slated to take effect on April 1, 2003. with the election of chairs of committees. While some may say it is therefore redundant, it is my intention to Ï (1015) keep this proposed amendment on the order paper as long as the Young Offenders Act remains the law of the land. Mr. Speaker, I will be splitting my time with the member for Brossard—La Prairie. (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed) As the House knows, this is the report of the Standing Committee *** on Procedure and House Affairs. This is an unusual committee. As IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE PROTECTION ACT members realize, but members of the public may not, it is a committee which is very central to the operation of the House. Its Mr. Chuck Cadman (Surrey North, Canadian Alliance) moved name is procedure and House affairs and obviously it is greatly for leave to introduce Bill C-282, an act to amend the Immigration seized with the procedures of the House on a day to day basis but, in and Refugee Protection Act. particular, the procedures of the House as they are enunciated in the standing orders. He said: Mr. Speaker, I am reintroducing legislation to amend the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. It was Bill C-434 in the As the House affairs side of the title suggests, it is very much previous session. seized with the effectiveness of the House of Commons and greatly seized with the effectiveness of individual members of Parliament. This amendment would permit an immigration officer to require a foreign national applying for a visitor's visa to provide security as a A great deal of the work of members of Parliament is their work in condition of the issuance of that visa. It would also provide for committee, and members take great pride in that. Many of them at immediate removal from Canada if the visa conditions or the moment deeply regret the fact that the vast majority of the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act were committees are not functioning yet, believe it or not, after so many not complied with. weeks. It is my hope, as chair of the committee, and the hope of This bill is a direct result of working with my constituents whose other members, that the committees operate as quickly as possible family members living abroad have repeatedly been denied visitor and as soon as possible. visas for a variety of reasons. While my bill would not eliminate the possibility of visitors remaining in Canada beyond the approved The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs deals period, it would provide the statutory means for their swift removal. with the operations of the House of Commons. In the last year or so I My bill would give many Canadians the opportunity to enjoy family have to say that members on both sides of the House on that occasions together with loved ones from overseas. I look forward to committee have been very involved with the question of moderniz- debating this bill further in the House. ing and reforming the House of Commons in various ways. (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed) For example, it was this committee that made it possible for every sitting of every committee of the House to be televised. This was not *** the case before. As the House knows, we have always had [Translation] committees that could be televised and we have rooms for special televised hearings but now, as a result of the work of this committee, TAX CONVENTIONS IMPLEMENTATION ACT, 2002 it is possible to televise any committee meeting. We think that is a step forward. It has been a very progressive group. Hon. Lucienne Robillard (for the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance: moved that Bill S-2, An Act to implement an Also in the last House the committee tabled a report, which it has agreement, conventions and protocols concluded between Canada retabled, on the reform of private members' business. Again, this is and Kuwait, Mongolia, the United Arab Emirates, Moldova, something which has to do with the very grassroots operation of this Norway, Belgium and Italy for the avoidance of double taxation place and with the way individual members function. I think that and the prevention of fiscal evasion and to amend the enacted text of report on private members' business is a considerable step forward. It three tax treaties, be read the first time. is my hope, now that it has been reintroduced, that we will move (Motion agreed to, and bill read the first time) forward on many if not all of the reforms suggested in that report. October 31, 2002 COMMONS DEBATES 1111 Routine Proceedings I also have to say that this is not a normal committee. Its members members would have the opportunity to vote immediately on the include all five whips of the House. As well, the membership often matter to ensure things get done properly, as the committee has includes House leaders and parliamentary secretaries on the already done its job. I cannot see the committee acting any government side. It is a very unusual committee. When the differently.