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H.R. 3210, ‘‘RETAILERS AND ENTERTAINERS LACEY IMPLEMENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT FAIRNESS ACT’’ AND H.R. 4171, ‘‘FREEDOM FROM OVER- CRIMINALIZATION AND UNJUST SEIZURES ACT OF 2012’’ LEGISLATIVE HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON FISHERIES, WILDLIFE, OCEANS AND INSULAR AFFAIRS OF THE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION Tuesday, May 8, 2012 Serial No. 112-109 Printed for the use of the Committee on Natural Resources ( Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.fdsys.gov or Committee address: http://naturalresources.house.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 74-144 PDF WASHINGTON : 2013 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:54 Apr 30, 2013 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 L:\DOCS\74144.TXT KATHY COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES DOC HASTINGS, WA, Chairman EDWARD J. MARKEY, MA, Ranking Democrat Member Don Young, AK Dale E. Kildee, MI John J. Duncan, Jr., TN Peter A. DeFazio, OR Louie Gohmert, TX Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, AS Rob Bishop, UT Frank Pallone, Jr., NJ Doug Lamborn, CO Grace F. Napolitano, CA Robert J. Wittman, VA Rush D. Holt, NJ Paul C. Broun, GA Rau´ l M. Grijalva, AZ John Fleming, LA Madeleine Z. Bordallo, GU Mike Coffman, CO Jim Costa, CA Tom McClintock, CA Dan Boren, OK Glenn Thompson, PA Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan, CNMI Jeff Denham, CA Martin Heinrich, NM Dan Benishek, MI Ben Ray Luja´n, NM David Rivera, FL Betty Sutton, OH Jeff Duncan, SC Niki Tsongas, MA Scott R. Tipton, CO Pedro R. Pierluisi, PR Paul A. Gosar, AZ John Garamendi, CA Rau´ l R. Labrador, ID Colleen W. Hanabusa, HI Kristi L. Noem, SD Paul Tonko, NY Steve Southerland II, FL Vacancy Bill Flores, TX Andy Harris, MD Jeffrey M. Landry, LA Jon Runyan, NJ Bill Johnson, OH Mark Amodei, NV Todd Young, Chief of Staff Lisa Pittman, Chief Counsel Jeffrey Duncan, Democrat Staff Director David Watkins, Democrat Chief Counsel SUBCOMMITTEE ON FISHERIES, WILDLIFE, OCEANS AND INSULAR AFFAIRS JOHN FLEMING, LA, Chairman GREGORIO KILILI CAMACHO SABLAN, CNMI, Ranking Democrat Member Don Young, AK Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, AS Robert J. Wittman, VA Frank Pallone, Jr., NJ Jeff Duncan, SC Madeleine Z. Bordallo, GU Steve Southerland, II, FL Pedro R. Pierluisi, PR Bill Flores, TX Colleen W. Hanabusa, HI Andy Harris, MD Vacancy Jeffrey M. Landry, LA Edward J. Markey, MA, ex officio Jon Runyan, NJ Doc Hastings, WA, ex officio (II) VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:54 Apr 30, 2013 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 L:\DOCS\74144.TXT KATHY CONTENTS Page Hearing held on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 ................................................................. 1 Statement of Members: Fleming, Hon. John, a Representative in Congress from the State of Louisiana ....................................................................................................... 1 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 2 Markey, Hon. Edward J., a Representative in Congress from the State of Massachusetts ........................................................................................... 5 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 7 Sablan, Hon. Gregorio, a Delegate in Congress from the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands ................................................................. 3 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 4 Statement of Witnesses: Baxter, Jeffrey, Musician/Producer, Former Member of Steely Dan and the Doobie Brothers, and Advisor to D.O.D. and I.C., Former Chair of the Advisory Board for Ballistic Missile Defense ................................... 21 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 ........................................................... 23 Blumenauer, Hon. Earl, a Representative in Congress from the State of Oregon, Oral statement on H.R. 3210 .................................................... 15 Broun, Hon. Paul C., a Representative in Congress from the State of Georgia ........................................................................................................... 17 Prepared statement on H.R. 4171 ........................................................... 18 Cooper, Hon. Jim, a Representative in Congress from the State of Tennessee ...................................................................................................... 12 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 ........................................................... 13 Everill, Laurie, Regional Customs Compliance and Operations Manager, IKEA—North America .................................................................................. 29 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 ........................................................... 31 Gardner, Adam, Frontman of Guster, Founder and Co-Director of Reverb 44 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 and H.R. 4171 ................................. 46 Harman, Donna A., President and Chief Executive Officer, American Forest and Paper Association ...................................................................... 33 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 ........................................................... 35 Paul, Hon. Rand, a U.S. Senator from the State of Kentucky ...................... 8 Prepared statement on S. 2062 ............................................................... 9 Rey, Hon. Mark, Climate Advisors ................................................................. 39 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 and H.R. 4171 ................................. 42 Rubinstein, Reed D., Esq., Partner, Dinsmore & Shohl, LLP, U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s Institute for Legal Reform .................................. 48 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 and H.R. 4171 ................................. 50 Rutenberg, Barry, Chairman of the Board, National Association of Home Builders .......................................................................................................... 25 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 ........................................................... 27 Shea, Kevin, Associate Administrator, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture .................................. 71 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 and H.R. 4171 ................................. 72 Sobeck, Eileen, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, U.S. Department of the Interior ...................................................... 63 Prepared statement on H.R. 3210 and H.R. 4171 ................................. 65 (III) VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:54 Apr 30, 2013 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 L:\DOCS\74144.TXT KATHY Additional materials supplied: Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, Statement submitted for the record on H.R. 4171 ..................................................................................... 78 Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters and the Canadian Manufacturing Coalition, Letter submitted for the record on H.R. 3210 and H.R. 4171 79 National Association of Conservation Law Enforcement Chiefs, Letter submitted for the record on H.R. 4171 ....................................................... 81 National Association of State Boating Law Administrators, Statement submitted for the record on H.R. 4171 ....................................................... 83 Northeast Conservation Law Enforcement Chiefs Association, Letter submitted for the record on H.R. 4171 ....................................................... 84 Reverb, Statement submitted for the record .................................................. 6 Scarlett, Lynn, Former Deputy Secretary, U.S. Department of the Interior, Statement submitted for the record ............................................. 39 (IV) VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:54 Apr 30, 2013 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 L:\DOCS\74144.TXT KATHY LEGISLATIVE HEARING ON H.R. 3210, TO AMEND THE LACEY ACT AMENDMENTS OF 1981 TO LIMIT THE APPLICATION OF THAT ACT WITH RESPECT TO PLANTS AND PLANT PRODUCTS THAT WERE IMPORTED BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF AMEND- MENTS TO THAT ACT ENACTED IN 2008, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ‘‘RETAILERS AND ENTERTAINERS LACEY IMPLEMENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT FAIR- NESS ACT’’; AND H.R. 4171, TO AMEND THE LACEY ACT AMENDMENTS OF 1981 TO REPEAL CERTAIN PROVI- SIONS RELATING TO CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND VIOLATIONS OF FOREIGN LAWS, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ‘‘FREEDOM FROM OVER-CRIMINALIZATION AND UNJUST SEIZURES ACT OF 2012.’’ Tuesday, May 8, 2012 U.S. House of Representatives Subcommittee on Fisheries, Wildlife, Oceans and Insular Affairs Committee on Natural Resources Washington, D.C. The Subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 1:02 p.m., in Room 1324, Longworth House Office Building, Hon. John Fleming [Chair- man of the Subcommittee] presiding. Present: Representatives Fleming, Duncan, Harris, Sablan, Faleomavaega, and Markey (ex officio). Dr. FLEMING. The Subcommittee will come to order. The Chair- man notes the presence of a quorum. Good afternoon. STATEMENT OF THE HON. JOHN FLEMING, A REPRESENTA- TIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF LOUISIANA Dr. FLEMING. Today the Subcommittee will conduct a legislative hearing on two bills that amend the Lacey Act. As a result of amendments enacted in 2008, the impact of this law was signifi- cantly expanded to include for