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Legislative Assembly of Alberta the 29Th Legislature Fourth Session Legislative Assembly of Alberta The 29th Legislature Fourth Session Standing Committee on Families and Communities Missing Persons Act Review Friday, April 27, 2018 9 a.m. Transcript No. 29-4-11 Legislative Assembly of Alberta The 29th Legislature Fourth Session Standing Committee on Families and Communities Goehring, Nicole, Edmonton-Castle Downs (NDP), Chair Smith, Mark W., Drayton Valley-Devon (UCP), Deputy Chair Carson, Jonathon, Edmonton-Meadowlark (NDP)* Dach, Lorne, Edmonton-McClung (NDP)** Drever, Deborah, Calgary-Bow (NDP) Ellis, Mike, Calgary-West (UCP) Fraser, Rick, Calgary-South East (AP) Hinkley, Bruce, Wetaskiwin-Camrose (NDP) Luff, Robyn, Calgary-East (NDP) McKitrick, Annie, Sherwood Park (NDP) Miller, Barb, Red Deer-South (NDP) Orr, Ronald, Lacombe-Ponoka (UCP) Renaud, Marie F., St. Albert (NDP) Shepherd, David, Edmonton-Centre (NDP) Swann, Dr. David, Calgary-Mountain View (AL) Woollard, Denise, Edmonton-Mill Creek (NDP) Yao, Tany, Fort McMurray-Wood Buffalo (UCP) * substitution for Marie Renaud ** substitution for Barb Miller Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner Participants LeRoy Brower Assistant Commissioner Kim Kreutzer Work Director, Knowledge Management Support Staff Robert H. Reynolds, QC Clerk Shannon Dean Law Clerk and Director of House Services Stephanie LeBlanc Senior Parliamentary Counsel Trafton Koenig Parliamentary Counsel Philip Massolin Manager of Research and Committee Services Sarah Amato Research Officer Nancy Robert Research Officer Corinne Dacyshyn Committee Clerk Jody Rempel Committee Clerk Aaron Roth Committee Clerk Karen Sawchuk Committee Clerk Rhonda Sorensen Manager of Corporate Communications Jeanette Dotimas Communications Consultant Tracey Sales Communications Consultant Janet Schwegel Managing Editor of Alberta Hansard Transcript produced by Alberta Hansard Standing Committee on Families and Communities Participant Ministry of Justice and Solicitor General Kelly Hillier, Barrister and Solicitor, Legislative Reform April 27, 2018 Families and Communities FC-1027 9 a.m. Friday, April 27, 2018 Approval of the agenda. A draft agenda for this meeting was Title: Friday, April 27, 2018 fc distributed. Does anyone wish to propose amendments? On the [Ms Goehring in the chair] phone? Hearing and seeing none, would a member be willing to move a motion to approve the agenda? Mr. Dach. Moved by Mr. The Chair: Good morning. I would like to call this meeting to Dach that the agenda for the April 27, 2018, meeting of the Standing order. Welcome to members, staff, and guests in attendance for this Committee on Families and Communities be adopted as circulated. meeting of the Standing Committee on Families and Communities. All in favour of the motion, please say aye. On the phones? Any My name is Nicole Goehring, and I’m the MLA for Edmonton- objections? Thank you. The motion is carried. Castle Downs and the chair of this committee. I would ask that Approval of the meeting minutes. We have the minutes for our members and those joining us at the table this morning introduce last regular committee meeting. Are there any errors or omissions themselves for the record, and then I will call on those joining us to note? On the phones? Hearing and seeing none, I would ask that via teleconference. We’ll start with our guests. a member move adoption of the minutes. Mr. Hinkley. Moved by Mr. Hinkley that the minutes of the March 29, 2018, meeting of the Ms Kreutzer Work: Kim Kreutzer Work, office of the Information Standing Committee on Families and Communities be adopted as and Privacy Commissioner. circulated. All in favour of the motion, please say aye. On the phones, please say aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Motion carried. Mr. Brower: LeRoy Brower, assistant commissioner, office of the Review of the Missing Persons Act, deliberations and Information and Privacy Commissioner. recommendations. As we continue our deliberations for the Missing Ms Hillier: Kelly Hillier, Justice and Solicitor General. Persons Act review, I would like to express our appreciation once again to the representatives from the Ministry of Justice and Mr. Dach: Good morning. Lorne Dach, MLA for Edmonton- Solicitor General and the office of the Information and Privacy McClung. Commissioner who are with us today to provide technical support during our deliberations. Ms Woollard: Denise Woollard, MLA, Edmonton-Mill Creek. I would also note for the record that the office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner provided a written response to questions Ms McKitrick: Bonjour. Annie McKitrick, MLA, Sherwood Park. raised at our March meeting, which was distributed to committee Mr. Hinkley: Good morning. Bruce Hinkley, MLA, Wetaskiwin- members earlier this week. At our last meeting the committee came Camrose. to a consensus on many recommendations to amend the act. I’m sure that we all hope this good work continues. Mr. Carson: Good morning. Jon Carson, MLA for Edmonton- Also, I will once again remind everyone to please focus the Meadowlark. deliberations on what is within the scope of the Missing Persons Act. In addition, when putting forward a proposal for consideration, Mr. Shepherd: Good morning. David Shepherd, MLA, Edmonton- I would encourage that the committee have the opportunity to Centre. discuss the proposal first before a member moves a specific motion. This seemed to work well for everyone at our last meeting. Ms LeBlanc: Stephanie LeBlanc, Senior Parliamentary Counsel. Also, when proposing a possible motion, committee members are asked to provide a copy to the clerk or be prepared to repeat the Ms Robert: Good morning. Nancy Robert, research officer. motion as necessary until it is available on the screen. We will Ms Rempel: Good morning. Jody Rempel, committee clerk. confirm the final wording of all motions prior to voting. Before we proceed, does anyone have any questions? On the Mr. Smith: Mark Smith, MLA, Drayton Valley-Devon, deputy phones? Thank you. chair. Let’s continue our deliberations. I’ll start the rotation of speakers. As well, members on the phone can either jump in or can e-mail the Drever: Deborah Drever, MLA for Calgary-Bow. committee clerk if they would like to get on the speaking rotation. Any members? Mr. Ellis: Mike Ellis, Calgary-West. Ms Woollard: Thank you, Chair. All right. I noticed that there was Mr. Fraser: Rick Fraser, Calgary-South East. a thought or there was a mention by the RCMP about changing the Mr. Orr: Ron Orr, Lacombe-Ponoka. signatory on application forms under the act. The discussion had been about changing it from having it be signed by a commissioner Dr. Swann: David Swann, Calgary-Mountain View. Good for oaths to a justice of the peace. Since this is a technical question, morning. I was wondering if Justice and Solicitor General could give us information about if this would help the use of the act. Mr. Yao: Tany Yao, Fort McMurray-Wood Buffalo. Ms Hillier: Good morning. According to the police forces, it would Ms Luff: Robyn Luff, MLA for Calgary-East. help in the actual operations day to day, with just how the applications are processed and the flow of them, and I have no The Chair: Thank you. technical concerns at all with making that change. I would like to note for the record the following substitutions: Mr. Carson for Ms Renaud and Mr. Dach for Ms Miller. Ms Woollard: All right. Thank you very much. A few housekeeping items to address before we turn to the business I would suggest that we keep this under consideration, to change at hand. Please note that the microphones are being operated by the signatory from a commissioner for oaths to a justice of the Hansard. Committee proceedings are being live streamed on the peace. Internet and broadcast on Alberta Assembly TV. Please set your cellphones and other devices to silent for the duration of this meeting. The Chair: Are you wanting to recommend wording? FC-1028 Families and Communities April 27, 2018 Ms Woollard: Yes. I would like to recommend that the wording be The Chair: Go ahead. changed from having the application be signed by a commissioner for oaths to a justice of the peace, please. Mr. Shepherd: I guess something along the lines, then, that we would be looking to amend the Missing Persons Act to allow police The Chair: Wonderful. Thank you. We’ll just give the clerk a minute services to apply for an order to obtain access to dental records. to get that up on the screen. The Chair: Thank you. Ms Woollard: Yes. Thank you. Any members with questions or comments? On the phones? Mr. Shepherd, are you prepared to move this motion? The Chair: Is there any discussion, any questions from committee members? Mr. Shepherd: Absolutely. It sounds like the majority of the As it reads right now, it says: that the Standing Committee on members should be in agreement, so let’s go ahead and move that. Families and Communities recommend that the Missing Persons Act be amended to make the signatory to applications for court The Chair: Thank you. Moved by Mr. Shepherd that orders under the act be a justice of the peace. the Standing Committee on Families and Communities recommend Any comments, questions? Anyone on the phone? that the Missing Persons Act be amended to permit a police Hearing none, Ms Woollard, are you wanting to move this motion? service to apply for an order to obtain access to dental records. Any questions? All in favour of this motion, please say aye. On Ms Woollard: I would like to move this motion if this is a suitable the phones? Any opposed? Thank you. time, Chair. Thank you. Motion carried. Any other members wanting to discuss? Ms McKitrick. The Chair: Thank you. Moved by Ms Woollard that the Standing Committee on Families and Communities recommend Ms McKitrick: Thank you, Chair. I’m looking at pages 14 and 15 that the Missing Persons Act be amended to make the signatory to of the issues and proposals document.
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