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SANDERSSiftings an exchange of Sanders/Saunders family research Number 57 April, 2009 four issues per year • $12 per year subscription • edited by Don E. Schaefer, 1297 Deane Street, Fayetteville, AR 72703-1544 Jim Sanders Searches for the Connection of It Has Been A Very Moses Sanders and Patrick Sanders Interesting 14 Years The following is the result of research Moses Saunders and a Mary Hamilton in The first issue of Sanders Siftings, of Jim Sanders, 2235 Los Encinos Road, the same, immediate geographic area as only eight pages, featured a story of Ojai, CA 93023, well as the correct time frame. The Glenn D. Sanders’ grandfather—and <[email protected]>. occurrence of the names Moses Sanders that was what got me interested in Moses Sanders/Brunswick, Va. 1772 and Mary (Hamilton) Sanders, may have taken place in other records but to our printing stories of our Sanders kin. In 1772, Moses Saunders was a knowledge, it has not been substantiated. That first issue was started with a defendant against Thomas Preston, who nucleus of people who were was a neighbor of Joseph Hamilton’s. ADD: August 2008: Francis, Moses exchanging Sanders stuff in the (Preston’s property is noted in Joseph and their brothers were very active in early days of the internet. Hamilton’s will and again in a obtaining land grants between 1771 and In that same issue were two sto- Brunswick Deed recorded in Book 7 1780 in Anson County, N.C. As shown ries by Justin Sanders, now living in Page 165). Hamilton’s property was earlier, Patrick and William left Halifax Mobile, Ala. Justin has since begun adjacent Preston’s and located on the and relocated to Anson County perhaps heading up the Sanders DNA project. ridge between Nippers Creek and Jeneto as early as 1755. Andrea Sanders Gereighty was one (Genito) Creek, near the southwestern We do have DNA confirmation that of the early contributors who sent me corner of Brunswick and adjacent to the descendants of the brothers Sanders; lots of material. present day County of Mecklenburg. Francis, Isaac and Moses are related to Paul A. Saunders, now living in Joseph Hamilton was the father of Mary Patrick Sanders. http://freepages.genealo- Knoxville, Tenn., has contributed Hamilton. gy.rootsweb.com/~sandersdna/dna.html many good, well researched stories, We believe that Moses was a young Another tantalizing piece of historical several with photos. He also man in 1772. His oldest child was information is Obediah Hooper was debunked research by another con- Aaron and the 1850 census of Franklin born in Lunenburg, Va. in 1755. He tributor who claimed descendancy Co., Ga. shows him born in 1769 in Va. married his first wife, Sally Gates, in Va. in 1780. He died in Pickens Co., Ala. in from Lawrence Saunders, the martyr. The 1772 Court actions, listed below, 1839. He married Sallie Sanders the He gave convincing evidence that helps substantiate Moses and Mary daughter of Moses Sanders, in Franklin Lawrence had no descendants who Hamilton Sanders being in Brunswick. Co., Ga. in 1804. The Hooper and had children. They connect Thomas Preston, a proven Sanders had a long-standing relationship And what readers could forget the neighbor of the Joseph Hamilton’s, to and both Moses and Obediah’s families “how many John Sanders” disagree- Moses Sanders. may have been in the Lunenburg/ ment between Paul Sanders of On 26 Feb. 1772 on page 481 of Film Bellvue, Wash., and Ted Chadbourne Brunswick area during the same time #0030665 (order book 11): A notice of frame. <http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry. and Barbara Brett Sanders? Robert H. attachment to the estate of Moses Saunders, a New York attorney, com/cgibin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&db= Saunders by Thomas Preston was con- jwmoore&id=I4739> seemed to bring things together and tinued until the next court. eventually put forth evidence that Patrick and William Sanders of Halifax was convincing. On page 51 of FHL film # 0030666, order book 12, 1772-1774, dated 28 July Chestnut Creek Sanders It is difficult to thank all the peo- 1772 we find this: A DNA match in 2008, between ple who helped keep this publication descendants of Patrick and Moses going with their material, encourage- An attachment attained by Thomas Sanders, prompted us to document all ment, and subscriptions. I will not Preston, Plaintiff, against the estate of records in Halifax in which the Sanders forget the carefully handwritten Moses Saunders is dismissed being surname was noted. The presence of the pages given me by Elva Dixon. agreed by the parties. (“Estate,” as was used in Brunswick documents, is given names of William and Patrick were I must give a special thank you to documented, which indicated a subse- my most prolific researcher and con- defined as “all goods and possessions of the defendant.”) quent move to Anson County, N.C. tributor, Gary Sanders of Denton (Thanks to Jo Sparks and Gary Sanders) Texas. Check out his web page! Ⅵ Although Moses is not mentioned again in either deed records or lease William and Patrick Sanders, along Don Schaefer, editor records of Brunswick, it is strong circum- with their adjacent neighbors are noted stantial evidence because it places a (Continued on page two) SANDERSSiftings No. 57 Apr/2009 Page 2 What You Don’t Know Won’t Hurt You — A Story Moses/Patrick Sanders About ‘Butter and Mice and Everything Nice’ (Continued from page one) on deeds recorded in 1753-1757. These The following is from George D. two younger brothers, Meredith and deeds describe their properties as bring Saunders, 3629 Princess Ave., North Milton who remained in the Vancouver on 3 different creeks; The Snow, the Vancouver, BC, V7N 2E4, Canada, area, married and raised their families. Chestnut and the Turkey Cock. The <[email protected]>. George is a John married Edna Ruth Schell and had mouths of the three creeks are within a brother of Raymond Saunders, creator three children, one of which is me! My 3-mile section on the Pigg River: Turkey and builder of the famous steam clock father passed away in 1951 at the age of Cock Creek flows from the hills of in the Gastown area of Vancouver, 53. Too young, I think! Ⅵ Turkey Cock Mountain, near the town of Canada. (See the October 2002 issue of Mountain Valley, thence easterly, across Sanders Siftings.) Ezekiel & Thomas Sanders the Franklin / Pittsylvania line, thence This is a true story from the depres- northerly into the Pigg River. The sion days in northern Vancouver Island, Of Tuscaloosa Co., Alabama mouth of the Turkey Cock is about 3 Canada, as told by my uncle about an From Heritage of Tuscaloosa County, miles from the Mouth of Chestnut Creek. incident in my father's store. Alabama, published by Heritage The Sanders properties were near the It was a cold winter day in a small Publishing Consultants, Inc, P.O. Box 67, town of Dickenson, Va. town called Courtney located on Clanton, AL, 1999: page 355. Previous research on Isham Hodges, Vancouver Island during the depression Ezekiel Sanders located at the below Web addresses con- in 1934. A frail older lady dressed in a Earliest records for Ezekiel and firms our work herein. <http://list faded smock entered the town grocery Thomas Sanders are in Chester District, searches.rootsweb.com/ th/read/ store carrying a basket covered by a South Carolina. They owned 100 acres HODGES/2008-02/1204341714> small towel. She showed the contents to on the branch of the Sandy River, date “…There was migration from my father. It was several pounds of recorded 2 March 1773. Thomas Chestnut Creek in Franklin Co., Va. to homemade butter. She wished to trade Sanders fought in the Revolutionary the general area of Marlboro Co., S.C. as them for some other groceries. The two War, but there has been no record found early as 1750. Mark Cole had moved to of them dickered a bit and hit upon a for Ezekiel. The Sanders and Gores Anson Co., N.C. by 1752. More point- fair price and she began her shopping. intermarried. The Gores were French edly, Patrick Sanders, blacksmith, sold One of her requests was for a half pound and came before the Revolutionary War. land on both sides of Chestnut Creek in of butter. The grocer asked why she They laid out a town on the west side of 1759 (later purchased by Isham Hodges) wanted butter when she had just Chester District, S.C., and named it in what was then Halifax County. He brought in some butter. She sheepishly Baton Rouge. Many Tuscaloosa and appears in Anson Co., N.C., in 1758 on explained that she had found some dead Pickens Counties, Ala., families moved Little Mountain Creek in what is now mice floating in her cream from which from Baton Rouge. Thomas Sanders was Richmond Co., N.C., about 20 miles she had made the butter. She didn't want a Revolutionary soldier and died in north of where the Hodges settled in to use it herself but she thought that the Union Co., S.C. He was of the same gen- Marlboro County.” customers who will buy it, don't know eration as Ezekiel but slightly younger. http://searches2.rootsweb.com/th/read about the mice. So the old adage is, His pension says he was born in /HODGES/1998-11/0910008901 'what you don't know can't hurt you!' Loudoun Co., Va. Luis Sanders -- no All three of the above mentioned My father laughed and agreed that was a definite proof but he could be the Louis creeks were within the boundaries of very good saying.