287 Re. Bnrtd kflling of AUGUST 91, 1991 Re. Brutal kflllng of 2w HarlErns HaNm 12-00 hrs. inflicted on Harijans in my own RE. BRUTAL KILLING OF Constituency of Tenali in Andhra HARIJANS IN TSUNDUR VTLLAGE Pradesh. OF GUNTUR DISTRICT Sir, the incident occurred in village [Trmrska tion] Tsundur, is a naked attack on the SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN very social order of the country. On (Roscra) : Mr. FSpeaker, Sir. I have the Sixth of this month, the upper given a notice that more than 20 caste people have organised an attack people belonging to Scheduled on the Harijans. (Interruptions) Castes have been killed in Tsundur MR. SPEAKER : That is not to village of Guntur district in Andhra be shown like that. Please fold it. Pradesh . . . . (Interruptions). . . . Even This is not done. yesterday our colleagues from Andhra Pradesh wen very much agitated. (Interruptions) People belonging to Scheduled Castes including 40 Dalirs have fled away PROF.VENKATESHWARLU UM- from the village. The State Govern- MAREDDY : Sir, in Guntur district ment was alre;.d? aware of the possi- about twenty Harijans have been bility of such an incident. If the Gov- cruelly murdered. The sequence of ernment wanted, it could avert events is that one Mr. Yocob, a Fair such a happening. The subject mat- Price Shop dealer was summoned by ter concerning the protection of the MRO. While Mr. Yocob was Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes going to MRO's Office, there was an is the responsibility of the Central attack on him by the upper caste Government. But I find that since the people. This has resulted in a clash new Government took over, the num- between these two groups; served ber of atrocities is continuously on the people have gathered from both the increase. A few days back three sides; and there was a clash. Several people belonging to Scheduled Castes people have been injured in the in- were killed in Unnao district of Uttar cident. After some time. the upper Pradesh. Recently more than 20 caste peoplc-who arc' Congress work- pasons were killed in Andhra Pradesh. ers of that locality-have mustered According to my information, mem- strength not only from that village, but bers of almost all the political parties also from neighbouring villa es. They have:dcrnanded a judicial enquiry into have come in lorries an d tractors the incident. A delegation of op- with all the lethal wcapons and they position members is going thm today. have massacred about twenty Harijans Home Minister, Shri Chavan is present in that village. It is an organised one hac. I would like to know from him for the reason that they have not whether the Govmment is concerned only murdered. but they have also by growing incidents of killings of the wrapped all the dead bodies in gunny members belonging to Scheduled bag and thrown them in the Tun Castes and Scheduled Tribes and badn drain which is flowiy near &: what measures are king takm by the It is a small drain. Sir, so far--till Oomnmtnt in this regard? this morning-scven bodies have been recovered and the whereabouts of abut (Int~rions) twenty otlier Harijans are not known. 1figlfrkl MR. SPEAKER : 1 have allowed We have been feeling that more than tlre Hon. Member from Andb 20 people have been murdered and Rsdcsh. operations arc going on to restrict water flow in that canal and they haw (fntmuptlon) been searching for the bodies. Sir. PROF, VEfJKATESHWARLU UM' this is not for tbd Atat time that at MAREDDY 0: Mr. speaker, tscks on the down-trodden, the Scba *, 8 sbuPclbl iodddPt hU btm daled Cum, the Scheduled Mh 289 Re :Brulal kiflfng of SRAVANA 1F, 191 3 (SAKA) Re :Bmial killing of 290 Hed/anz Harib women and minorities have been boy was killed in a cinema hall. Thir inflicted in Andhra Pradesh in the past is the punishment they have given for one and a half years. There were the Scheduled Caste Harijans. Sir, several other occasions where such we have always been talking of anti- attacks had been inflicted in Andhra apartheid in this country. What moral Pradesh and even our leader, Shri N, right has this country got to talk T. Rama Rao as the Leader of Op- about anti-apartheid'! We can set position, had reported all the in- apartheid in every nook and corner cidents to the Prime Minister and the of this country in the form of untou- President of India. The law and order chability. How many people have situation has completely deteriorated been convicted in this country for ex- in Andhra Pradesh. Dacoities. high- ploiting the Scheduled Caste Harijans? way robberies, rapes and murders and Therefore Sir, I demand that this communal clashes have been going Government should hold a judicial for political gains-wen for changing inquiry and puniih the culprits. the Chief Minister. Communal cla- shes have increased very much and now Sir, it has hecome the order of the day. There i\ no security for life and property of the people. The people, pnrticulitrly the Harijans, SHRl BASU DEB ACHARIA have been victimid.. . . .(lnt~rrup- (Bankura) : Sir. more than 20 Harijans . Wc demand that the Go- were killed by the so-called upper caste lions). . people in Guntur district Andhra vernment of Andhra Prade5h should of dismissed forthwith for the Pradesh. After lulling them merciles- be reason sly, they put the dead bodies in that there i\ no law and order in the gunny State. Sir, not that I am not telling bags and threw them in a canal. that the Congress people have done it. This is a wry serious matter. All the The Mini.;ter of AP who had gone politic31 parties demanded a judicial there himself owned the responsibility inquiry into this incident. We have claimin3 that their own people have precedents in the past also and we done it. He said that the upper caste have discussed this kind of incidents in people belong to the Congress Party.. this House. Since the killing of more than Harijans ib Yery serious matter, (Interruprions).. . .Sir. wu demand that 25 a a judicial inquiry should be ordered this should be discussed in this and high compensation *hould he Housc . . . . ( Infcrrirpfions! given to the victim\. MR. SPEAKER : There are many others who want to .peak. Please be hrief and quick.

SHRl V. SREENlVASA PRASAD SHRl BASU DEB ACHARIA : (Chamarajanngar) : Sir. the country This kind of killing4 are taking place is going to celebrate itc 45th Inde- in Tripura as also in Uttar Pradesh.. pendence Ihy just next week. I (Interrrrprions) We demand that you know that long speeches, colourful allow a discussion on this under Rule cultural programmes, etc. will be 193. Or you may admit an adjournment there. Really speaking Sir, certainly it motion. (Interrupfions) is not a day to b: celebrated joyfully. 1 would like to hr~ngto your notice MR. SPEAKER : Loknathji, I as to what is actually happening in will give you a chance. Please wait. this free country. .. .(hferruptiom). . 1 have called nim Even today, the Scheduled Caste Harijans have been killed brutally in AN HON. MEMBEk : Sir, arc Chundur village of Guntur district. you going to admit it under Ruk 1937 Many of them have been kidnapped and haw been missing. What is the reason MR. SPEAKER : 1 do not decide it for these killings? A Scheduled Caste ha. 1 decide it in the Chamber 291 Re. Brutal killing of AUGUST 9, 199 1 Re. B~~ctlkillink 01 292 Hdlrmr Xa?pva)u SHRI K. P. REDDlAH YADAV MR. SPEAKER : You have made (Machhiiipatnam) : Sir, I also hail your point. Please take your seat. from the same constituency. It is my native place. All the facts have SHRl MUKUL BALKRISHNA been brought before your notice WASNIK : Sir, the Harijans are not and I am not going into those details. going back to their villages. They are The fsct is that the sub-inspector and lying on the streets. the circle inspector were very much MR. SPEAKER : This is not cor- there. These brutal killings went rect. Please sit down. on for fi\r hours from 11 AM to 4 PM. in their very presence. No SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA Government machinery works there. WASNIK : The Home Minister should I request the Hon. Home Minister intervene. . . .(hferri~pfions);* that he should immediately send a MR. SPEAKER : What Shri Wasnik CBI team-as was done by Shrimati Indira Gandhi in 1%9-to arrest those says. will not go on record. people, the Reddys and Telag as of that (Interruptions) + village. I do not call them the upper castes. They are the Reddys and Tela- gas of that villap They have per- petuated 211 these brutalities. The Con- MR. SPEAKER : This is not going psleaders in connivance with the on record. Ycc, Mr. Chandra Jeet Chief Minister. are not going to bring Yadav. these people to book. SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV : SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV I think the entire House will agree with (Azarngarh) : I want to bring a very this and condemn this kind of brutal important factor before you. killings of Scheduled Cacte and people who are helpleqs and poor. As soon SHRI MUKUL RALKRISHNA a\ we gat this information yesterday. WASNIK (Buldana) : Sir. thic is a very Shri Ram Vila$ Pa$wan. Rajuji and I important izsue. . . .(Inrerruprionrl submitted the full Facts to the leader MR. SPEAKER : I have allowed of the House. Shri Ar~unSingh. Shri Yadav. Piease sit down. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : SHRI MUKL'L BALKRISHNA 1 was also with you. WASNIK : This brutal massacre of Harijanr i3 a very &ous matter. SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV : Ycs. Shri Acharia was also there. MR. SPEAKER : One member has already said that. Why do you want to Seong the urgency of it, wc rtqucstcd repeat it? him that immediately the Gobern- ment should get in touch with the (Inrt ruprions) Chief Minister of Andhra Raderh. He SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA told us that the Chief Minister happens WASNlK : I strongly condemn the to be in Delhi; he will talk to him and upper cactes who are responsible for will plaa the whole facts before the the brutal mas- of more than 20 Chief Minister, and also that neotsa Harijan~in Guntur district of Andhra action will be taken. But I am mrr) Fradesh. This is a very scriow iissuc. to ray that neassary urgcncy is not I have also condemned the failure of attached to such cam when poor the police ofiicials and the Govcm- people are killed. If a train accident mnt machintry who arc responsible takes place and five maple are kitled. far not providing security ewn after the Minitter immediately rushes lo the staying for wen days in that village. spot. (Ini~rmpriulu) In spite of that, so many peopk wen k!W. I uert the Hon. Home Mini- MR. SPEAKER :Tbt it because thr m st10113 immtdiatcly * mtur Railways is with tbc Ccatd Oowm- diarim...... mat. SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV : MR. SPEAKER : Please take your This is also the responsibility ofthe seats. If I don't hedr him properly, Central Government. So far as the I will not be able to rule. Let me hear lives and protection of th.: Scheduled him properly. Caste and Scheduled Tribe people are concerned, it is Central Government's SHRl BUTA SINGH : The Hon. Member has grossly misused his posi- responsibility. (Interrupfions) tion as a Member of Parliament. He MR. SPEAKER;: Ministcr wants to should not have named the Con- say something. gress Party in that statement. 1 would request you that you should expunge SHKI CHANDRA JEET YADAV : those remarks as he cannot take the 1 would request the Home Minister to name bcfore an inquiry is made and immediately send a Minister there and it is established as to who is respon- also order 3 judicial inquiry. It will be sible. a good gehture it' the Home Minister himself visits that place. 1 would like Secondly, sir, I would like the Hon. to know whether the Chief Minktar of Minister not to leave the matter to Andhra Pradesh was contacted or the State Government. It is a heinous not. (Inierruprions) crime. People have been lulled in the presence of police. Therefore, the MR. SPEAKER : Thc Hon. tionle Home Minister is durj- bouud to make Minister was on hi> legs. He wanted an independent inquiry and present a to say something. report to this House. (Inrerruptions) SliKl BUrX SlSCiH (Jalore) : Sir, 1 SHKl BH. VIJAI'AKUMAR am on a point of order. RAJ L (Narsapur) : It is very clear from today's newspaper that the upper caste SPEAKER : There is point MR. no pcople belong lo the Congress Party. of order in Zero Hour. Howevzr, 1 (Inrerruplions) will allow you. SHRl BUTA SINGH : Let there be SHRl BUTA SIhGH : You libtcu an inquiry from thi, How. I will to me. 1 will cxpliun how there is a request the Home minister to send a point of order. team of thk House to Andhra Pra- desh. (Inrerruprions) MR. SPEAKEK : Thrrc is no point of order in Zero Hour. SHRl CMAhDkA JELT YADAV: We support propod. (Inrrrrup SHRI BUTA SlhCH: Sir. my point tur r iom) of order is that whilc making the state- ment, Hon. Menlbcr from Cenali has SHRI BH. VIJAYAKLiMAR definitely charged the Congress Pxrty. KAJU : We are welcoming him for Thcrefo~,my objection is that unless finding out the facts. an inquiry is made and the fact is cs- tablished, no onc can be nanmi in the SHKl SOMNATH CHATTERJEE How. My point of order arises from (tkrlpur): Since a very wuior member this. My submission to you, Mr. of the Congress Party-the ex-:Minister, Speaker, Sir, is. . . . (fnrcrryr- who was hopefully the new Minister tiom) unfortunately not toddy, who could MR. SPEAKER : Hc he5 raixd a also have been the Home Minister- point of order. Let me hwit. If 1 has made a propod, the whole House don't beu it properly I wo.n't be able unanimously accepts his proposal. to rule. Let ir be today, herc and now the House Corumittec be constituted. SHRI BUTA SINGH : My objcc- Wc support tbe Congress Party. tion is that till an inquiry is made by the Cantrrl Government or the Statr' SHRl CWANDRA JEET YADAV : Govuemcat, Hon. Member cannot. . . . Lct there be a House Committee, WQ (inlermptions) support him. (Interrupliorrr) 195 Re, Ma1 killbtp of AUGUST 9, 1991 Ra. Bnaal killing of S6 Har@m Hadjans MR. SPEAKER : Please take your that necessary security is also being seat. You had seen that the hon. Home provided to all the Scheduled Caste Minister was trying to get up and say people who not only have been affwt- something. You should allow him to ed but all the harijans who arc living express what he wants to express. in that village. Only then the things on be clear. What you actually want is that there SHRl RAM VILAS PASWAN : should be a response from the Govern- Some of them have left the village. ment. So, you should allow him to nspond. SHRl S. B. CHAVAN : After we get the Report. we would like to SHRI P. M. SAYEED (Laksha- make a statement on the floor of the dwaep) : He ha, already suggested House. one thing. Now, I %ant to submit be- fore you that since Shri Buta Singh has SHRl BASUDEH AC'HARIA given a suggestion chat there musl be (Bankura) : What about thc House an Inquiry Committee constituted from Committee'! this House, 1 say, Sir, if that is so, it should not confine itself to Andhra SHRl BH VlJAYAKLlhlAR RAJU: Radtsh alone but should include also (Inlerruprions). other places. (Inrcrruprinns). Including Pilibit and Bihar also. MR SPEAKER : Nobody is hear- ing what you are all saying. (Infermp- SHRI BH. VIJAYAKCMAR RAJU: Irons) (In$cmprions). MR. SPEAKER : Shri Shravan MR. SPEAKER : Do you redisc Kumar Patel. (Interrirprions) that in tbe process, what >ou are saying 1s heard b> none? That 1s why, SHRl BASL'DEB ACHARIA if you war,t to make )our pints, you (Bankura) : There should be a House should make one after the other and Committee. (Inlernrpriorr~) allow the prd~ngsto proceed ac- to cording the rules. Otherwise, there MR. SPEAKER : 0. li. You take is no point in speaking. your wls. You do not allow me to SHRI MUKCL BALKRISIihA say anything. You are all the timc WASNIK (Bu1dan.t) : Mr. Speakcr, shouting. J should alw SI!.something. Sir, tbc lnqutry will tak IL~own What is tha? You haw made your corusc. The question uhlch 1s more pant. Now I am 5land1ng lo reply. important today is that of pro\kion of You do nut allow me to reply. How dtyto the harilans who haw left can we conduct the procecdinp of thdr vrllaga and who were not abk the Houw hke th~s?Let me say some- to go back to their homes. So, the thing. (1nlrrruplion.t) question ia that, they should be im- mediately pro\ided security. Thc MR. SPEAKER : It should not Inquiry may take a week or may take be like this. If you makc one point at ema month. What is nccdcd today OM time. then then can bc m atc to is the imnudrate xcurit!. it. Now I do nut allow you. a you MTC calking, I listened to you all. THE MIKISTER OF HOME But, all the rime you rannot do like : (SHRI S. B. CHAVAN) Mr. Speaker, thw. Let the hjffl,uf dl ;bc PPnia Sir, 1 qutte appreciate tbe sentiments of mat and decide about it; if thay want tbc hon. Members. I had a talk with and of to constitute r Committee send the Cbd Mlnisra Andbra Pmksb it to ail tbc Slate, kt tbdo lo. wb left thjr morning aad bc is going (Inrcrny,riu#) &tnr1ghr to that viw where this in- cidcnt ha happeaad. Ht dU makc pmoaal caquiriea into the matt# and SHRI RAM VIM PASWAN rfaar I get th: rrport, we will KC {Rostrtl) : Wbm wilt it go ? MR. SPEAKER : Wherever this to go to the other issues? Please ap- problem is there. You decide between preciate it and allow me to go to the yourselves. other issues. If you want to appoint a (Interruptiotzs) Committee, let the senior Leaders of all the Parties come together and decide MR. SPEAKER : Shri Shravan about it. (Interruptions) Kumar Patel. (Interruptions) SHRI SOBHANA DREESWARA MR. SPEAKER : Please take your RAO VADDE (Vijayawada) : Who seats when I am standing. (Interrup- will decide? tions) MR. SPEAKER : You decide bet- ween yourselves. MR. SPEAKER : You tirst please take your scats. (ftt~erntpriotls! SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : What is the reaction of the Home SHRl BASUDEB ACHARIA f Minister? Are you allowing d~scusslunon this? MR. SPEAKER : After this also you are getting up. You got more MR. SPEAKER : Now. such than you expected. Now you please matters cannot tx decided OII the keep quiet. Shri M. V. V. S. hlurty. Floor of the Home. If, in your jud- gement and wisdom, you want to ap- SHRI M. V. V. S. MURTY point a Committee, you can do so. (Visakhapatarn) : The Vizag Steel You have made your point and got Mill ha> so far cost Rs. 7,800 a response from thc Home Minister. crores. (Interruptions) The Home Minister told you that he will make a statement in the Housc. MR. SPEAKER : 1 would nor After this if you want to appoint a always execute theduties ofthe Govern- Committe, I am not against it. But, ment. Please do not always ask me you decide bctween yourselves what to do the duty of the Government. kind of a Committee you want to ap- As far as the duties of the hws: are point, what would bc itc jurisdiction, concerned, it is my responsibility. But where they would likc to go and all for this I shall have to carry you with those things. Such things, on the spur mc. And all the time sitting here. of the moment, in the House, cannot without knowing the facts. if I am be d~jdcd.I would not like to take a saying "Do this" and "Do that" decision on this pint in this manner. that is not proper. Now, it is for the Leiders to come tope- ther and in their wisdom rake a deci- SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV : sion. I am not saying that you do We are with you. this way or that wry. I have no objec- tion to your doing it; 1 haw no objec- SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR (Gopal- tion to your not doing it. But you can- ganj) : It is for the Homz Minister not place this kind of an issue on the whether he agrees to form a committea Floor of the Housc as if there are no or not. As far as my legdl knowledge other issues to be brought before the goes. a Speaker suo moru cannot House. form a committee.

MR. SPEAKER : We will discuss Members sitting on the last benches this later in the Chamber. Then arc were corning to me and telling me other issues. Shri Murty. that they were not gcttiag a chance to spmk in the House. Now, you have SHRI M. V. V. S. MURTY . Tht didone issw and ~otthis much full targated production of the Vuq of mponsc. Should you not allow tnc Stset Mill is three million M.T.