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SSE NATIONAL LEAGUE 3SE CCC Saturday November 2 LLL 2013 KO 3.00 UUU OO..EELLTTHHAAMMIIAANNSS BBB WELCOME TO GORESBROOK IT IS MY pleasure to welcome another set of first-time visitors to Goresbrook this af- ternoon in the shape of Old Elthamians. They represent the last in a run of top clubs who have made it very difficult for our team to regroup and get settled in this league - from here until Christmas though we are ac- tually playing against the bottom half of the league. Be that as it may I would like to issue a warm welcome to the players, officials and game as opposed to round trips of 500 miles supporters of Old Elthamians who have plus? made the 15.7 mile journey from Chislehurst It continues to be a depressing season and in Kent for today’s fixture - and doesn’t it now to be confronted by the fourth-placed make a difference to talk of 15.7 miles for a team, who have lost only once this season after meeting the top three teams in our last three games, one won- ders what the fixture organisers had against us. Never mind, a little trip down the road to Thurrock next week and maybe the opportunity for some points? I must also welcome today’s ref- erees, Matt Rozier for the 1st XV and Giles Lenton for the 2nd XV, who kick off at 14.00 against Rochford Hundred 2nds. We hope you enjoy your visit to us gentlemen. Talking of the 2nd XV, they are currently in sixth place in the 12- club Shepherd Neame Essex Merit Table Division One after victories over Woodford and Romford & GP. The 3rd XV are second in Divi- sion Three of the same competi- tion after a cracking October which saw them beat East London 2nds, Southend 5ths, Romford 3rds and Braintree 3rds, scoring 227 points and conceding 43. So it’s not all doom and gloom and I hope you all enjoy the games this afternoon - and please wander over and give the 2nd XV some support as well. Terry Marner TODAY’S VISITORS OLD ELTHAMIANS THE RUGBY club was founded in October and it was suggested that the Foxbury field 1911 during the evening of the last should be bought, but in 1936 the Old Boys' Day to be held at Eltham Foxbury Estates Limited bought the College's old school buildings in ground with the idea of develop- Blackheath. Initially only half a ing the ground into a large hous- dozen members agreed to play ing development. The war came regularly, but eventually the and the land was requisitioned by numbers increased to 17 and the war office. three fixtures were arranged, After the war came the Town and starting in early 1912. Country Planning Act came into The first Chairman of the club was being and along with the Old the English international H.J.H.Sibree Elthamian Association the ground we (1908-09), who found time to play a few know and love today became home to a games for the club before the first world war. great rugby club. T By early 1912 the school had moved from The money for development came from the Blackheath to its present site in Mottingham. It Eltham College Centenary and War Memorial changed its name from the School for Sons of fund, the whole of the available fund of the Old Missionaries to Eltham College, and the club Elthamians Association, the generosity of indi- became Old Elthamians RFC. vidual old boys and a loan from the RFU. On January 27th, the club played its first In the late fifties membership grew with as game, against Sutton A, at the school grounds many as five sides being fielded. In 1961 in Mottingham. The remaining fixtures were S.R.Smith was capped for England. By the Ju- against Leytonstone (now Wanstead) and Royal bilee Season the club had played some 3500 Naval School Old Boys. games since inauguration. The following seasons, prior to the Great War, In the early seventies playing numbers de- a full fixture list was completed with much suc- clined and in 1972 it was decided that the club cess. Of the 37 matches played, 30 were won, 5 would go open and allow membership to non- lost and 2 drawn; 1015 points for, 118 against. Old Elthamians. The result was an influx of new During the twenties the school expanded members that allowed six teams to play each and by the early thirties there were sufficient week. numbers for three or four sides to play on a In 1974 mini rugby started (the second club regular basis. During this period several players to do so in Kent), a thriving section with now represented Kent and two former members nearly 300 players in all age-groups from uner gained international honours: A.L.Gracie (Sc- 7 to under 17, and recently celebrated its first toland 1921-24) and N.L.Evans (England 1932- international - Andrew Sheridan. J 33). In the late 1980s National Leagues were After the War the Old Boys Association pur- formed, allowing the club to progress to their chased and donated some land to the school current status in National Three, London and- on the understanding that the club could use a South-East. pitch on a Saturday afternoon; other games Last season, our first in the National leagues, were played on local pitches. we managed to finish a creditable sixth and Rugby was severely curtailed by the Second claimed some famous scalps on the way. We World War, but due to the efforts of one player, also were runners up in the Kent Cup, falling to J.E.Baldwin, a team was put together, regularly Blackheath in the final. Our ambition is to play playing over 20 matches a season. exciting, expansive rugby; to progress youth The war record was played 134, won 72, players deemed worthy of the chance and to drawn 8, lost 54; points for 1479, against 1123. reach as high a level as we can. It was decided to find a permanent ground Thanks to the Old Elthamians website RAMBLING AROUND THE LEAGUES We keep in touch with former Barking players the newly-promoted clubs in London Irish playing in higher leagues - there are a lot of Wild Geese, Exmouth and Bishop’s Stortford, them! while Ampthill are holding their own in mid- table. NATIONAL 3 SE SO A QUARTER of the way through the sea- NATIONAL 1 son and after today we will have played six DONCASTER KNIGHTS head National One, of the top seven and just two from the bot- not a team we have met, but Rosslyn Park tom and Esher are three points behind them. Meanwhile Dorking and Tonbridge Juddi- Park, with Alex Codling in charge, have the ans lead the table with 100% records, but biggest quota of ex-Barking players and Char- Dorking’s is more 100% than Tonbridge as lie Broughton scored two tries for them last they also have 100% in try bonus points. weekend in their 48-17 victory over Worthing Basingstoke are the team in form with three Raiders. wins on the trot to rocket into eighth place, Also in their squad for this game were both but with just Thurrock below us the bottom props,Aaron Liffchak and Alex MacKenzie, two two are a sorry sight for Essex rugby. scrum halves, Jack Gash and Matt Heeks, and Of our former players in this league, James David Vincent. Fouracre has claimed three tries for Barnes Esher boasted a blast from the past in their and Frankie Neale has scored 52 points for squad that beat Fylde 27-24 with Kris Chesney Thurrock. now turning out for them. For our visitors today Renford Bennett and There were none of their ex-Barking contin- Johnny Williams have both scored six tries gent in Blackheath’s starting line-up against while Tom White is their top scorer (and the Coventry, although Marcus Burcham was on league’s top scorer) with 129 points, made up the bench and came on an hour into the Club’s from tw0 tries, 22 conversions, 24 penalties 63-21 pasting at Coventry. and a drop goal. CHAMPIONSHIP WHEN WE CONSIDER how many Barking NATIONAL 2 S players followed Cods to London Scottish a NATIONAL TWO SOUTH is led by Hartpury few years ago, Adam Kwasnicki is the only College (no surprise there) with Cam- ex-Barking player in their squad now. bridge, having put aside their money prob- Scottish are holding a mid-table place, but lems, in second place. Ealing Trailfinders, where Andrew Henderson Southend are in third spot, their highest has ended up, are still looking for their first league place for many years and James Kel- Championship point, Henderson getting a try lard leads their try scorers with four, including in Ealing’s 31-14 dereat at Bedford Blues last one last week in their 34-10 victory over weekend. Clifton. Two interesting names on the scoresheet Michael Guess and Marcus Bloomberg were for Bedford, a certain Ollie Dodge (Alex’s kid two more Barking Old Boys in the Southend brother), who scored two tries and Michael Le team. Bourgeois, who was Jersey’s points machine Red Newberry scored two tries in Shelford’s when we played them, but appears to have 41-19 victory over bottom team London Irish moved on. Wild Geese. Talking of Jersey we can report that they No sign of Francis Ambrose, but Sean are eighth out of twelve in a league led by Mullins was on the bench. London Welsh, with Rotherham Titans in hot The bottom three in this league are three of pursuit. THE WAY WE WERE OUR OPPONENTS today are an Old Boys club al- O though they have long L broken their ties with the B D C OY school from which they CL YS LU S B were originally formed S and become an ‘open’ club. We are in a similar position, hav- ing been founded in 1930 as ‘The Park Modern School, Barking Old Boys Rugby Union Club’ - defi- nitely a bit of a mouthful! In our case we remained an Old Boys club until 1974 when membership was opened up to all and the club name was changed to Barking Park RFC and two years later to Barking RUFC. A few years ago it was decided to drop the ‘U’ and so we became Barking RFC. Old Elthamins didn’t bother with name changes, but they went open in 1972, two years before us. I decided to trawl through the internet to see how many Old Boys clubs are still in existence, although I cannot say
Founded in 1930, this is the earliest Barking fix- ture card I could lay my hands on
Contined on page 8 COUNTY RUGBY TTOODDAAYY’’SS TTEEAAMMSS HERE TOMORROW BBAARRKKIINNGG OO..EELLTTHHAAMMIIAANNSS Under 18 games Cardinal & Grey SHIRT SPONSORS EASTERN COUNTIES 15 Ollie FORREST V 14 Billy DRIVER HERTFORDSHIRE 13 Gus PATTERSON Jumas LAMECK KO 11.00 12 11 Nathan BARHUM ESSEX 10 Craig RATFORD Jim & Debbie Marner V 9 Elliott BROWN Gay & John Fisk KENT 1 Ross REED Stephen & Julie John 2 Aaron COHEN KO 14.00 3 Sam JOHN Stephen & Julie John 4 Conner McDONALD NEXT HOME GAME 5 Matthew McKENNA National League Three South East 6 Joseph TOUMA 7 Andrew BADCOCK Martin Buck Saturday November 23 8 John ROBINSON (C) Gerald & Chris Mansfield BASINGSTOKE Replacements KO 3.00 16 Nat JOHN 17 Darrell OX 18 Alex FOSTER
PREDICTASCOREPredict the correct score for the game and win £100 MATCH OFFICIALS If no-one is correct then nearest gets £25 Matt ROZIER (London Society) £2 a go, three for £5 REPLACEMENTS Approach Terry Dignum or Ray Walden with a fiver in your hand to join in. BARKING ON/OFF
VISITORS ON/OFF We even allow visiting supporters to back their own team to win! Programme produced by Printed by Full Spectrum Print Media 01268 288637 TTOODDAAYY’’SS TTEEAAMMS NEXT AWAY GAME O.ELTHAMIANS National League Two South O.ELTHAMIANS Saturday October 5
SHIRT SPONSORS Blue & Gold Hoops THURROCK Tom WHITE 15 KO 3.00 Max O’LEARY 14 INFORMATION Address: Oakfield, Long Lane, Grays, RM16 Rob WHITE 13 2QH Dave BONNER 12 Telephone: 01375 374877 Renford BENNETT 11 Website: www.thurrockrugby.com Jim & Debbie Marner Railway station: Grays (Taxi ride) Mike UBEE 10 Directions: Take the second exit off A13 Gay & John Fisk Richard JUDD 9 after M25, signed Grays. On the elevated Stephen & Julie John Rhys BOXALL 1 roundabout , take the 4th exit signed Grays. At the next roundabout take the Tom HOBBS 2 1st exit Long Lane. Proceed to the end of Stephen & Julie John Nick PORTER 3 Long Lane, going straight over mini Paddy GREEN 4 roundabout. The driveway to the club is on the right just past the flats on the Alistair VANNER (C) 5 right. Truman SULLIVAN 6 Martin Buck Alex TOMPKINS 7 MONDAY NOVEMBER 4 Gerald & Chris Mansfield 8 EVENING OF CLAIRVOYANCE Richard MELFORD Diane White, psychic medium visits Replacements Barking Rugby Club for the first time for a special evening ofclairvoyance. Jon FORDHAM 16 Joe BONNER 17 Seats will be limited and MUST be re- served in advance. Charlie EDWARDS 18 Email Graham at [email protected] to order tickets (with Diane White in MATCH OFFICIALS the subject box. Matt ROZIER (London Society) Ticket £12.50 No ticket sales on the night. REPLACEMENTS Doors open at 6.30pm and show starts promptly at 7.30pm.
http://www.pitchero.com/ Programme produced by Printed by Full Spectrum Print Media 01268 288637 clubs/barkingrufc/ Old Millhillians Old Wimbledonians From page 5 Old Olavians Pegasus Palmerians for certain that any of them are still restricting Old Oundelians Pelhamians membership to former pupils of the school Old Paulines Pinner & Grammarians only. Old Reigatian Purley John Fisher I checked for teams called Old anything and Old Rutlishians St Nicholas Old Boys also for that give away ians on the end of the Old Streetonians Thamesians name as in Tonbridge Juddians. I also Old Tiffinians Tonbridge Juddians searched for teams called xxx Old Boys. Old Tottonians UCS Old Boys I know there are many teams who went Old Walcountians Wandsworthians down our road with a full name change such Old Wellingtonians Westcliff as Old Westcliffians (Westcliff), Old Bancrof- Old Whitgiftians Worth Old Boys tians (Bancroft) and North East London Poly Old Williamsonians Old Boys, who became Chigwell before they disappeared altogether. MIDLANDS So the first question is: How many Old Boys clubs are still in exis- All Spartans Old Boys Old Laurentians tence? Aston Old Edwardians Old Leamingtonians The answer. as far as I can ascertain is 127, Aylestonians Old Newtonians give or take a few that slipped through my Edwardians Old Northamptonians net. Fiveways O. Edwardians Old Saltleians Where are most of these found? Nuneaton O.Edwardians Old Yardleians The majority, 50 %, are found in London and Northampton O. Scouts Stoke Old Boys the South East. The smallest number (12%) are Nottinghamians Towcestrians found in the North while the Midlands and the Oadby Wiggestonians Veseyans South West both have 19%. Old Coventrians Warwickians Which Old Boys club currently sits high- Old Griffinians Wellingborough Old est in the league system? Old Halesonians Grammarians That would be Old Albanians in National League 1. SOUTH-WEST THE OLD BOYS REGISTER Avonmouth Old Boys Mannamedians (OPM's) LONDON & THE SOUTH-EAST Bath Old Edwardians Old Public Oaks Devonport HSOBs Old Redcliffians Askeans Old Blues Morganians Old Richians Bancroft Old Brentwoods Oakmedians Old Sulians Barking Old Caterhamians Old Bristolians Old Technicians, Barnet Elizabethans Old Cliftonians Old Centralians Oldfield Old Boys Bec Old Boys Old Colfeians Old Colstonians Readingensians Brockleians Old Cooperians Old Cryptians St Bernadettes Old Boys Campion Old Cranleighans Old Culverhaysians, St Brendans Old Boys Dartfordians Old Dunstonians Old Elizabethans St Marys Old Boys Egham Hollowegians Old Elthamians Old Plymothians and Widden Old Boys Enfield Ignatians Old Emanuel Fullerians Old Freemens NORTH Gillingham Anchorians Old Grammarians Aldwinians Old Crossleyans KCS Old Boys Old Gravesendians Anselmians Old Modernians Old Abbotstonians Old Haberdashers Hulleasians Old Otliensians Old Actonians Old Haileyburians Jarrovians Old Rishworthians Old Albanians Old Hamptonians Leodiensians Parkonians Old Alleynian Old Isleworthians Novocastrians Roundhegians Old Amplefordians Old Merchant Taylors Old Bedians St Edwards Old Boys Old Ashmoleans Old Mid-Whitgiftian Old Brodleians St Marys Old Boys IN FOCUS A warm welcome back to our club pho- tographer, Kevin Webb, who strolled along to the Dorking game as he now lives that way. Westcombe Park Tring Tonbridge Judds Thurrock Old Elthamians Hertford Guernsey East Grinstead Dorking CS Rugby 1863 Bury St Edmunds Basingstoke Barnes BARKING
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Home teams at the
FIXTURES
2013/2014
RESULTS
AND
Nov 30
Mar 29Mar
Dec 21
Dec 14
Apr 12
Feb 15
Jan 11
Jan 25
Mar 8Mar
Nov 9
78-14
60-14
61-8
BARKING
Nov 30
Mar 29 Mar
Dec 14Dec
Feb 15
Apr 12
Jan 25
Jan 18
30-33
19-12
Nov 9
Mar 8 Mar
Jan 4
22-5
Barnes
Nov 23
TODAY
Dec 21Dec
Mar 22 Mar
Jan 11
25-10
31-33
49-14
Dec 7 Dec
Mar 1 Mar
Feb 8
Apr 5
73-5
Basingstoke
TODAY
Nov 23
Mar 22 Mar
Apr 12
Jan 18
27-42
10-19
17-31
Dec 7 Dec
Mar 1 Mar
Feb 8
Apr 5
Jan 4
Bury St Edmunds
Nov 30
Feb 15
Jan 11
Jan 25
25-45
24-24
25-23
Apr 5
Nov 9
Dec 7 Dec
Mar 8 Mar
53-8
18-0
CS Rugby 1863
TODAY
Nov 23
Mar 29 Mar
Mar 22 Mar
Dec 14Dec
Apr 12
Jan 18
24-41
24-48
Feb 8
Mar 1 Mar
Jan 4
8-36
Dorking
TODAY
Nov 30
Mar 29 Mar
Dec 14Dec
Apr 12
Jan 18
16-14
16-31
Mar 8 Mar
Mar 1 Mar
Feb 8
Jan 4
5-49
East Grinstead
Mar 22Mar
TODAY
Nov 23
Dec 21Dec
Jan 25
Jan 11
29-39
30-20
24-40
Mar 1 Mar
19-17
Dec 7 Dec
Apr 5
Guernsey
Dec 14Dec Nov 30 Mar 29 Mar
Dec 21Dec
Feb 15
Jan 25
Jan 11
29-34
29-34
34-12
Nov 9
Mar 8 Mar
25-6
Hertford
TODAY
Nov 23
Mar 22 Mar
Jan 18
30-36
19-49
17-17
18-54
Dec 7 Dec
Mar 1 Mar
Feb 8 Apr 5
Jan 4
Old Elthamians
TODAY
Mar 22 Mar
Nov 23
Dec 21Dec
Jan 18
36-15
49-24
Mar 1Mar 44-15
27-21
Dec 7 Dec
Feb 8
Apr 5
Thurrock
Nov 30
Dec 14Dec
Jan 18
Mar 29 Mar
Feb 15
Apr 12
12-21
29-35
10-13
Nov 9
Mar 8 Mar
Feb 8
Jan 4
Tonbridge Judds
Nov 30
Mar 29 Mar
Dec 14Dec
Feb 15
Apr 12
Jan 11
Jan 25
21-18
15-13
Nov 9
Mar 8 Mar Jan 4
26-0
Tring
Nov 23
Mar 22 Mar
Dec 21Dec
Feb 15
Jan 11
Jan 25
27-30
28-22
Dec 7
Nov 9
39--9
Apr 5
40-8
Westcombe Park ANORAKS’ CORNER
National League Three South East 2013/2014 Table P W D L F A DIFF BT BL PTS DED Dorking 7 7 0 0 313 107 206 7 0 35 Tonbridge Judd 7 7 0 0 206 87 119 3 0 31 E Grinstead 7 6 0 0 255 76 179 5 1 30 O Elthamians 7 6 0 1 269 113 156 4 0 30 Bury St Eds 7 5 0 0 225 163 62 4 1 25 CS Rugby 8 3 0 1 154 219 -65 1 1 16 Hertford 7 3 0 0 137 192 -55 3 0 15 Basingstoke 7 3 0 0 146 237 -91 3 0 15 Guernsey 7 2 0 1 180 183 -3 3 2 15 Barnes 8 2 0 0 161 217 -56 4 3 15 Tring 7 2 0 0 162 165 -3 2 3 13 Westcombe Pk 7 2 0 0 140 216 -76 2 2 12 BARKING 7 0 0 0 127 357 -230 2 2 4 Thurrock 7 0 0 1 141 284 -143 0 0 2
SCORERS 2013/2014 T P C DG PTS THIS WEEKEND’S FIXTURES Ratford - 6 9 - 36 Barking v Old Elthamians Barham 3 - - - 15 Brown 3 - - - 15 Barnes v East Grinstead Shaw 2 1 - - 13 J.Jones 2 - - - 10 CS Rugby 1863 v Basingstoke Forrest 1 1 - - 8 Hertford v Thurrock S.Jones 1 - - - 5 Touma 1 - - - 5 Tonbridge Juddian v Bury St Eds Wackett 1 - - - 5 Tring v Dorking Mead 1 - - - 5 Sreadman 1 - - - 5 Westcombe Park v Guernsey Penalty Try 1 - - - 5
No point in boosting the NCA web- site as they don’t cover National 3 clubs. Results can be found on the RFU site, www rfu.com, under Lon- don Division. For lively discussions on National 3 rugby try the forum at http://www.rolling-maul.com FIXTURES 2013-2014 SEPT 7 Hertford H L 29-34 Barham 2T, S.Jones T, Shaw T,P, Ratford 3C 14 Bury St Edmunds H L 27-42 Forrest T. Pen Try, Ratford 4P, C 21 Tring A L 14-60 Shaw T, Brown T, Ratford 2C 28 Barnes H L 30-33 J.Jones T, Barham T, Wackett T, Brown T,Touma T, Ratford P,C OCT 5 Tonbridge Juddian A L 14-78 Mead T, J.Jones T. Ratford 2C 12 East Grinstead H L 5-49 Brown T 19 26 Dorking A L 8-61 Sreadman T, Forrest P NOV 2 Old Elthamians H 9 Thurrock A 16 23 Basingstoke H 30 Guernsey A DEC 7 Westcombe Park H 14 CS Rugby 1863 A 21 Bury St Edmunds A 28 JAN 4 Tring H 11 Barnes A 18 Tonbridge Juddians H 25 East Grinstead A FEB 1 8 Dorking H 15 Old Elthamians A 22 MARCH 1 Thurrock H 8 Basingstoke A 15 22 Guernsey H 29 Westcombe Park A APR 5 CS Rugby 1863 H 12 Hertford A 19 26 All home games KO 3.00