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2-Remsco Hearing103019 Page 101 October 30, 2019 1 REMSCO HEARING - EZRAS NASHIM 2 looked at him as the Babe Ruth. I still 3 do. He's the Babe Ruth. He was my hero 4 and is my hero, but that was a different 5 time. That was a time when there was 6 nothing like Hatzalah. He invented this 7 organization and they helped and they 8 continue to help the community. 9 Ezras Nashim is not a 10 competitive force. It's dealing with a 11 need. Yes, maybe the response time, as 12 Mr. Reisner is saying, is not what he 13 considers parallel to Hatzalah and maybe 14 there's other factors because I don't 15 see statistics being presented here. I 16 don't see numbers. When I look at 17 fact-checking, I want to look at data. 18 I need to look at a control group and I 19 have to look at the individual 20 variations. Where are they getting 21 these numbers from? When I look at a 22 peer review journal, I have to see hard 23 data, not hearsay from anyone and that 24 requires data and that requires a 25 community that can have both. DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company 800-678-0166 Page 102 October 30, 2019 1 REMSCO HEARING - EZRAS NASHIM 2 And I think it -- it really 3 upsets me because I love Hatzalah. I 4 think that Ezras Nashim is really here 5 to help. It's not here to go against 6 Hatzalah and I think that the woman that 7 stood before, if their husbands are at 8 Hatzalah, she commended them, that their 9 husbands leave at 2 o'clock in the 10 morning, but look at all these women 11 that are willing to give up their home 12 life to run out and help other women. 13 That should be commended. Thank you. 14 (Whereupon, applause was given.) 15 HEARING OFFICER SCHORN: Thank 16 you, Dr. Blitman. You said you have 17 some people -- 18 MR. DERING: Yes. 19 (Whereupon, Ms. Schmidt 20 approached the microphone.) 21 HEARING OFFICER SCHORN: Yeah, 22 so I will ask for brevity as a soul of 23 wit and it's also going to make my life 24 so much better. So I appreciate your 25 presence here tonight. Thank you. DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company 800-678-0166 Page 103 October 30, 2019 1 REMSCO HEARING - EZRAS NASHIM 2 MS. SCHMIDT: Hello, everybody. 3 My name is Rachel Schmidt. Many of you 4 know me. I am a psychotherapist in 5 private practice. I service the Borough 6 Park community and the Williamsburg 7 community as well. I graduated from 8 Yeshiva University, schools of 9 Wurtzvalor (phonetic) in 1991. More 10 important than that, I am a proud 11 Orthodox woman raised in the hub of the 12 Hasidic community of Borough Park. I 13 understand the need of the community. 14 We're here today to discuss the 15 need of an applicant service for Ezras 16 Nashim. Allow me to explain: Orthodox 17 women are raised in a very modest way 18 and modesty is our badge of honor. 19 There is nothing more sacred to an 20 orthodox woman than her modesty. Not 21 her money, not her house, not her 22 jewelry. My modesty is the most 23 important thing to me in my whole life, 24 personally speaking, but I'm not here to 25 speak about myself. I'm here to speak DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company 800-678-0166 Page 104 October 30, 2019 1 REMSCO HEARING - EZRAS NASHIM 2 for my clients. I'm here to speak for 3 the community of women. They should 4 have choices. 5 Now, that young lady who 6 spoke, that she called Hatzalah, 7 congratulations to you. I'm glad you 8 made that decision. That was your 9 choice, but I want to have a choice; 10 that if I prefer a female educated 11 professional medical service, that I 12 want to have that choice to have that 13 professional medical service at my side. 14 I want to say, I love Hatzalah. 15 There is nobody that I appreciate and 16 there is nobody I respect more than 17 Hatzalah. It's just only in this area 18 that we have a difference. Go ahead, do 19 your good word. God will pay you back, 20 but please let Ezras Nashim do their 21 work as well. Make room for another 22 organization. Make room so that the 23 women who prefer a professional medical 24 service that they can have that choice. 25 The Orthodox woman as you were DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company 800-678-0166 Page 105 October 30, 2019 1 REMSCO HEARING - EZRAS NASHIM 2 mentioned before from the age of -- does 3 not shake hands -- from the age of 3, we 4 cover our elbows. We wear high neck. 5 We wear long dresses. We wear tights. 6 And you know what? Our little children, 7 they don't look at iPhones. My 8 grandchildren -- may I mention, I'm also 9 a mother, a grandmother, and a 10 great-grandmother and my grandchildren 11 do not touch an iPhone. That is how 12 sacred modesty is to them. They do not 13 want to come into looking at a picture 14 where they can possibly see a woman in a 15 bathing suit, where there could possibly 16 be a woman not dressed modestly. For 17 that one reason, my grandchildren do to 18 the touch an iPhone and neither does my 19 daughter-in-law for that matter. 20 My point is, that these children 21 growing up in this restricted modest 22 society who don't even know who Mickey 23 Mouse is. Ask my grandchildren: Who is 24 Mickey Mouse? They will say, "which 25 mouse? The mouse that ran away with the DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company 800-678-0166 Page 106 October 30, 2019 1 REMSCO HEARING - EZRAS NASHIM 2 cheese?" They don't even know what 3 you're talking about. 4 Now, I want to just let you know 5 that this is the culture. I'm not 6 saying that there's anything wrong with 7 your child watching Mickey Mouse. Don't 8 go away with that. What I'm saying is: 9 Our children are so protected. Our 10 little girls are wearing long tights. 11 Now, you take this little girl and she 12 grows up and she's trained to live a 13 good healthy intimate life, a life with 14 her husband, but her husband and only, 15 and suddenly, she's in an emergency 16 situation. She has to give birth and 17 now suddenly, she feels that she has no 18 choice. Her modesty is ripped off. 19 Ladies and gentleman, she feels 20 emotionally raped. 21 I promise you I'm not 22 exaggerating and I speak as a 23 psychotherapist, LCSW. I have a full 24 practice -- please don't call me. And I 25 represent the people who have not just DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company 800-678-0166 Page 107 October 30, 2019 1 REMSCO HEARING - EZRAS NASHIM 2 -- I cannot speak about my personal 3 clients. I'm sure you could understand 4 that, but I can represent the community 5 I can represent my children. I can 6 represent my sisters. I can represent 7 the females to whom also modesty is the 8 most sacred possession that they have. 9 Please, I appeal to you, I beg you, 10 allow us to continue to be modest. 11 If you look at the history, if 12 you look at biblical times, you will see 13 it has always been women helping women. 14 100 years ago, it was women helping 15 women. I was -- my mother gave birth to 16 me 67 years ago with a midwife and she 17 did pretty well I think; ask my husband. 18 So what -- I'm not putting away doctors. 19 Of course we need doctors, please. I'm 20 only saying that the woman should have a 21 choice; that if she's in an emergency 22 vulnerable stage, please I beg you, 23 allow her to maintain her dignity. 24 Allow her to maintain her modesty. 25 Allow her to give birth a healthy, DEITZ Court Reporting... A Lexitas Company 800-678-0166 Page 108 October 30, 2019 1 REMSCO HEARING - EZRAS NASHIM 2 healthy child without having to make the 3 compromise not on the health of the 4 child and not have to make a compromise 5 on her modesty. 6 I just want to let you know, I 7 spoke -- I remember I gave a lecture 8 three years ago, my husband, Honorable 9 Judge David Schmidt was inaugurated as a 10 civil court judge and many people spoke, 11 and so did I. And when I got up to 12 speak for my husband, do you know what I 13 said? I will say it to you in two 14 sentences. I said, Gentleman, I want to 15 thank you so much for holding my husband 16 in. This is America. America, a 17 country, a country of justice and may I 18 ask you American citizens, may I ask you 19 a favor? When you come up to 20 congratulate me and my sisters and my 21 girlfriends, please refrain from shaking 22 my hands.
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