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/2.6$%+$6(&5(7$5,$7 New Rs:1.00 CONTENTS No. 20-Monda)', March II, 1968/P"alguna 21, 1889 (SAKA) Oral Answers to Questions- COLUMNS -Starred Questions Nos. 540, 541, 543,545,546,550,553 and 554. 2685-2718 Short Notice Question No.6. 2718-24 Written Answers to Questions- Starred Qucstions Nos. 542, 544, 547 to 549, 551, 552 and 555 to 568 2724-38 Unstarred Questions Nos. 3401 to 3438, 3440 to 3515. 3517 to 3518, 3520 to 3543, 3545 to 3611 and 3614 to 3636 2738-2908 Calling Attention to Mattcr of Urgent Public Importancc- Constitutional Crisis in Punjab 2908-15 Papers Laid on the Table . 2915-18 Joint Committee on offices of Profit- Second Report 2918 Statement re: Railway Accident on the South Central Railway 2918-19 Shri Pari mal Ghosh 2918-19 G~."..1 Budget-Gcneral Discussion . 2919-3061 . ~i K. N. Pandey . . , 2920-24 ~hri Kanwar Lal Gupta . 2924-46 Shrimati Sucheta Kripalani 2946-54 Shri Bhogendra jha 2954-68 Shri N. K. P. Salve 2968-77 Shri Humllyun T< ~ 1-'. t 2978-90 (al·\vii.. ~her dIaIJ ,1, 2990-98 ment bas becn . Sarma 2999-3004 swindling b.mrit Nahata 3005-16 Pund .'))fri Rane . 3016-21 Shri Gulam Mohammad Bakshi 3021-48 Shri Randhir Singh 3048-54 Sbri Y. S. Kushwah 3054-61 Dr. Melkotc 3061 Correction of Answer to S. Q. No. I I I reo Study of Hindi in Schools in Madras 3061 Half-An-Hour Discussion reo study of Hindi in Schools in Madras 3062-76 Shri Shiv Kumar Shastri 3062-66 Dr. Triguna Sen. 3071-75

-The sign -~ marked above the name of a Me~be--;: i~dicate~tiWth~ question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. WK SABHA DEBATES 1685 2686

LOK SABHA gated and taken necessary action in the matter. Monday, March 11, 19681PhaigufUl 21, 1889 (Saka) (c) As regards the non-banking finan- cial companies, a gist of directions issued hy the reserve Bank regulating their The met at Eleven of the husiness is laid on the Table of the Clock. House. These are likely to improve the operation of these companies in the [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] long run. As for chit funds, there arc special enactments in. force in Ker;tla. ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Madras and Delhi where they are rela- tively pouplar.

FINANCE AND C'HITFUND COMPANIES Statement + (i) The direction is applicable to all ·540. SHRI UMANATH: financial companies, whether or nO: SHRI VISWANATHA they accept deposits from public, "iz. MENON: loan companies, hire purchase finance SHRI P. GOPALAN : companies, housing finance companies, DR. RANEN SEN: investment compan.ies, miscellaneou. finance companies. chit fund companies. Will the Minister of FINANCE he Nidhis and mutual benefit finance com- pleased to state : pan.ies. [Insurance companies and stock exchanges and companies carrying on ("a) whether the attention of Govern- mainly the business of brokers or job- ment has been drawn to the large scale hers are excluded.] swindling by Finance Companies, Chit Fund Companies and housing colonizers; (ii) In the case of a hire purchase or a housing finance company, it wilI be re. (b) if so, whether Government have quired to (a) maintain in cash or cur- investigated the matter; and rent accoun.ts with scheduled banks or (c) the steps taken by Govcrnment In unencumbered or other trusliee iSC- to stop this evil ? curilies, an amount equal to 10% of the outstanding deposits; and (b) collect it~ debts in a way 'Such that the aggregate THE MINISTER OF STATE IN recei~ by way of instalmen.ts. due to THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE the companies under hire purhcase con. (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) Certain tracts, during each of the two half years complaints regarding non-repayment of shall not be less than 25% of the deposits and similar liabilities have heen amount outstanding under such contracts received mostly from the Delhi region. as on the close of business on the last working day of the previous financial (b) These relate primarily to matters year. which are of a contractual nature and the normal relMdy for the affected par- (iii) No non-banking financial com- ties would lie in civil proceedings. How- pany shall accept deposits repayable 00 ever, whenever caned for, the 3J'pro- demand or ootice or after a period of priate ~ttr autborities have investi. less than twelve month. (six mont'" for 2687 Oral Answers MARCH 11, 1968 0/'01 Answel's 2688 hire purchase and housing finance com- SHRI K. C. PANT: This is one Jf panies). those matters which are constantly under (iv) No noo.-banking financial com- reveiew. So far as the persons who pany (other than hire purchase and became victims of these companies are housing finance companies) shall accept concerned. I think it is a sufficient warn- deposits in excess of 25 % of ~: paid-up ing to them that so many companies capital and free reserves. have failed and duped J'l'lple. They should take a warning from this very (v) No non-banking financial company fact. So far as the laws in this respect ,hall issue an advenisement soliciting are concerned. they arc certainly under deposits, unless such advertisement car- review and even now certain proposah rielS necessary details regardin.g the com- are under consideration. pany, such as its nature, business, profits for the la!lt financial years, paid up SHRI UMANATH: Does Govern- capital, reserves and similar pal11iculars. ment propse any new legislation '0 De (vi) Every non-banking financial COm- hrought wilth a view to protecting these pany shall furnish to every depositor a victims on the basis of the review which receipt for every amount which has been the hon. Minister said he has under- received by the company and the com- taken already? pany shall keep registers giving full particulars of each deposit. SHRI K. C. PANT: It is a little pre· maoturc to say precisely what would he (vii) The report of the Board 0f done. but it is heing examined. Directors of the company should, among other things, contain particulars of in- DR. RANEN SEN: Taking advan- formation regarding (a) total number of tage of the poverty of the common peo- depositors of the compan.y whose de- ple these ch~t fund companies and hous- posits have not been claimed by the de- ing financial companies are growing like positors or paid by the company after mushrooms almost everywhere in . it has become due for renewal (b) ,the In spite of certain precautions taken by amounts remaining unclaimed or unpaid the Reserve Bank as laid down in tbe heyond the due dates. statement. these companies arc growing (viii) Intcrest on deposits repaid pre· and more and more people are being maturely will be at rates prescribed by trapped in their clutches. May I Know the Reserve Bank. how many cases have been launched against such companies and how many people have been prosecuted under the SHRI UMANATH: Notwithstanding existing directives and laws that .lre pre- the various legislations, acts and other valent today in India? thingo;; which the hon. Minister said arc in force in various States. many citizens SHRI K. C. PANT: Apan from the are being deceived by these chit fund directives to which the hon. member re- companies and otlier institutions. For ferred. there is the Madras Chit Fund Act examples. they ask for a loan of which has been extended to cover Delhi Rs. 20.000 from a financial company and also and under this Act there arc various then the man would Dot be seen at all. provisions to control the functioning of Ikcause most of the people involved in these companies. I could mention one this are middle-class and lower class or two of those provisions. One is. no people, who are taking loans for building action or drawing in respect of auy chit houses and other things and they are the will be permitlted unless the chit has main sufferers. I would like to know heen registered with the Registrar of whether Government have reviewed the Chit Funds. Secondly. the firms win working of these various' institutions. and have to execute an indenture of mort- I would also like to know how many gage of trust in favour of the ei~trar people have suffered on account of this of Trustees providing by way of gecuri:y and whether the present legislations and property equal in value to the aggregate acts a'e sufficient for protecting these valoe of the amount subscribed initially people? in one instalment. Then. the foreman 2689 O,aI A. nswer.< PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Oral A'l.

will be entitled to collect payments due may say that in all these cases the com- and a commission not exceeding 5 per pany law administration and the Re- cent of the chit amount and so on. The serve Bank of India pass on tbeir report,; chit may be wound up under the direc· to the police and if the police find that tion of the district court if it is nN be- there is a case of criminal misappropri- ing satisfactorily conducted. These are ation involved, they will take action. some of ,the other regulations that apply. Apart from this. only recently. on the "iT llilro'mf l!tff : ~ itlJ oT 15th December 1967. a detailed list (If Cf'fi'fT t .... the ae~ of the companies in respect of whiCh complaints have been received SHRI K. C. PANT: Let me com- has been placed on the Table of the plete my answer. Ordinarily. in a mat- House, and there we have indicated the ter of breach of trust-I am not a ao:ion taken by the police as well as the lawyer but I understand the position is Registrar. thi~ civil proceedings lie. But in case the police find that there is a case "iT ;~ l!tff : ~ orT of i~ f'fO of criminal misappropriation, they will take suitable action under the law. >.tgff m'U ~ ~ ~r m ~ ~ ;:~ if ~ ~. ~ Rmrr "iT i"~i l);tff: ~ i'fT ~ ~ ~ 7!71T g- I ~ ;:r"mr ~ ~; ;;ft"f if if'RT ~ ¥iT fif, ror- ~ ~ fif, 'i9li ~ 'lfrfi if 1m f; r.m rr:srITSfl:I;!1R 'foT itlJ ~ MORARJI DESAI) : It is not i~ibe ~~~~~~ to divide cases into criminal cases in the ;:ft;fi if,T m fu7:rr ~ I ~ ~ if"T matter. This has been considered bc- fore. Where civil liabilities are there ~ ~ ~ ~ ;r R; OfT TollfoT lfTsm if; "!TIT oT 1ft companies; they do i4 because they get ~ {Ie ~ ;;rw,? a higher rate of interest. It is the greed which is responsible for this. ~~~~;~i~i;at SHRI LOBO PRABHU: The pros- ~ ~. 3ft>: ~ flr;o.rr ~ ~ perity of the chit funds, hire purchase ~ and even the indigenous money lender, those who operate on money, is an Indi- SHRI K. C. PANT: If the police find cation th8ll there is a demand for credit it that there is a case of criminal mis- which is not met by the existing instItu- appropriation, thea tbc:y take action. ] tions. Since Oovernment is thinkin, of 2691 Oral Answers MARCH II, 1968 Oral Answt'rs 2692

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MR. SPEAKER: Shri Surya ~r r:~t mt: ~ '1ft ~ ~ Narayana. l!fmi ~ f'f' ~ <'TPr oil" ~ am: ~ SHRI LOBO PRABHU: Then how i~ '1ft ~ '1ft ~ 1 l.fflr ~ is the demand for credit to be met? ~~~~i~;:rr~ Merely saying that the State Bank will not undertake the operation indicates a ~r ~ ;;To f

Cabinet. Then, the final decision will a Bill of that sort, what is the relevancy be taken and when that is taken, that of bringing in a clause dealing with the will be made known. ,uppression of trade union rights, spe- cially when already there is the Indus- ST\UKE BY STATE BANK EMPLOYEES trial Disputes Act and various other Acts like I.P.C., Cr. P,C., if they are att- + racted for trade union activities, in the "543. SHRI UMANATH: so-called socialisation of banking? May SHRI K. ANIRUDHAN : J know whether it was because the SHRI B. K. MODAK : hankers represented to the Governmen: SHRI K. M. ABRAHAM: that these rights must be curbed or SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: whether it is because the Government SHRI K. RAMANI : wants to give a concession to the Will the Minister of FINANCE he hankers in return for their acceptance pleased to state: ,)f certain restrictions under that Bill ?

(a) whether ~: is a fact that the em- SHRI MORARJI DESAI: I think, ployees of the State Bank of India in the proper time to consider this is when Bombay, Ahmedabad, some towns in the Bill comes hefore tbe House for Saurashtra. and other centres have been discussion. It is a legitimate part of on hunger strike and also struck work that Bill, in my view. on the 28th February, 1968; SHRI UMANATH: How? (b) if so, what are their demands; and SHRI MORARJI DESAI: That will he discussed wben the Bill comes up (c) the steps l1aken hy Government hefore the House, not today. to settle the dispute? SHRI UMANATH: On a point of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN order, Sir. THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. C. PANT) (a) to (c). MR. SPEAKER: No point of order: Some members of the Slate Bank Work- y,lll are asking for information. ers Organisation went on a hunger strike between the 6:h and 13th February. SHRI UMANATH: My point of 1968 in Bombay to protest agaill.'it their order is that there is no public interest transfers made in the usual course. The involved here. agitation was subsequently called off. MR. SPEAKER: No point of order The strike on the 28th February was car. be raised during the QUestion Hour. in protest against certain provisions of tbe Banking Laws (Amendment) Bill. SHRI UMANATH: The Minister 1967 introduced in the Lok Sabba on refuses to answer. The other day, on the 23rd December. 1967. The matter the question of deficit financing he said, being already before Parliament the "You have. to await the Budget." The question of any steps being taken by Budget is a secret thing which the coun- Government to sett.le the dispute does try will know when it will be presemed. not arise. But the Bill has already been introduced; it is the public property and the property SHRI UMANATII: One of the oj the House. I am putting a specific major demlUlds on wbich the entire question. When the provision has been bank employees including the State objected by all the bank employees, he Bank employees throughout the country says that. for certain reason it has been went on strike on 284h February was done. That reason is not secret. He ~ith relard to a particular provision in can give the reason now itself, I am not the Bill reprding the so-called socialisa- discussing what is the relevancy of it. tion of banking where it attempts to I have asked whether the bankers have suppress the trade union rights which represented to the Minister Ilhat these ~ are already enjoying 4broughout rights must be curbed as a part of this the c:oUDlty. I would like to know. in legislation. 2697 Oral Answers PHAlGUHA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Oral Allswers 2698

SHRI MORARJI DESAI: The ban- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Lakkappa·•... kers do represent from time to time Not here ...... Mr. Ramani. their difficulties. But othis clause has not been added because the bankers have SHRI K. RAMANl: May I know asked for it. The Government do con· whether the Government will consider sider that the proper trade union rights this in view of the serious unemployment of the bankmen. should always be safe- situation among the educated people .. guarded. But about what are not .trade union rights, there is no question of pro- MR. SPEAKER: It is a much wider tecting them. What I said is that the qucstion. Bill cannot be discussed during the Question Hour. It can be discussed SHRI K. RAMANI : As per the de- when the Bill comes before the House cision of the 15th Labour Conference. for discussion. it is the reponsibility of the Government to have negotiations prior to imroducing SHRI UMANATH: Sin.ce the entire computers or any rationalisation system. c'mployees, without exception, in the In that cOn.lext, may I know whether the banking industry have struck work Government had any discussions with throughout the country for one day de- .th Bank employees association or its re- mandin.g e of the Governmem that these prescntativC5 ? rights should not be suppressed, I would eare~ like to know what specific SHRI MORARJI DESAI: May I say Government propose to take in response that this is not a part of this question at to their representation. all ? SHRI MORARJI DESAI: This can. SHRI UMANATH: It is a part of he discussed in this House when the time this qucSI:ion and that is why I get up. comes. This question arises here. There were SHRI UMANATH: My question is two demands in connection with the .:hi,. They have sent a representation. strike of 28th February: one was in re- My question is whether the Governmen.t gard to that prOVision in the socialisation would negotiate with the representatives Bill which I mentioned. and of the Bank employees. I would like to the second was in regard to in.troduction know whether the Government propose of automaton in the hanks. These were to n.ego:iate. the demands in connection with the strike of 28th February.• My hon. friend has SHRI MORARJI DESAI: Legisla- aiked a question with regard to the tion is never negotiated with them. .econd demand which caused the Sltrike SHRI K. M. ABRAHAM: The Gov- on the 28th February. namely, automa- ernment has repeatedly stated that the ton and unemployment. Therefore. it 15th Labour Conference has accepted is relevant. Let him reply. ieet~i of certain decisions. By 'decisions' I mean this: if rationalisation SHRI MORARJI DESAI: Negotia- is to take place, then it will be discussed tions ,hould be with the Bank and not with the Union representatives also. In with the Governmen:. the case of the State Bank employees. may I know from .the hon. Minister. SHRI UMANATH: The State Bank i~ controlled by the Government. whether the State Bank authorities have discussed with the Union representa- SHRI MORARJI DESAI: It is an tives ? autonomous body and Government doe. SHRI K. C. PANT: This does not not interfere. arise here. SHRI SHANTILAL SHAH: Ia the SHRI UMANATH: It arises. One Government aware that a subl¢antial of the reasons for the strike on 28th section of the Bank workers were oppos- February was in regard 40 introduction ed to this strike and a larae number of of automation. Let him reply to that the workers could not attend otllce .question ..... , because of obstruction and intimidMioa '! 2699 Oral Answers MARCH II, 1968 Oral Answers 2700,

SHRI MORARJI DESAI: What the ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ hon. Member has said is quite correct. m.rf ~r r~~ : ('Ii) ;;IT ~ I SHRI D. R. PARMAR: May I know whether it is a fact that there arc two ( ~ ) mq;:r ~ ~ srPt.rr '1ft ~ ~ new Unions of the Staote Bank em- ~ ~ ~ ~ ployees. The old Union which took flI; 'I!mf part in the strike on the 28th February ~ ~i ~ lift ... ~: ~ 3Th: is harassing the members of the new * ~r ~ ~ ~ Union which did not participate in the 'f>TlIff..qfif I 'trike. I want to know whether the ( If ) SffilT

will Government consider taking tbis up up it bas to be taken up in its entirety. in the Fourth Plan since it would give Therefore, all these detailed questions employment to a large number of engi- arc to be examined. neers who are unemployed and it will SHRI SRINIBAS MISRA: A memo- ItlSO provide fertilisers, and if so, may I know how soon it will be implemellfted ? randum was submitted to the Prime Minister when she it~ted the place. So. SHRI P. C. SETHI: As regards this how is it that this matter has not been complex, the opinion of various other taken up by the other Ministries con- MinistriCli is also required, and, there- cerned? May I know whether it will fore, the complex is being examined and be approved and staIlted as earlier scrutinised by the Planning Commission decided? as well as the advisers to the Finance SHRI P. C. SETHI: The other Minis- Ministry, and there are conflicting opi- tries are already seized of the matter. nions. Therefore, we are looking into When the Prime Minister visited the the entire matter. place she was given a memorandum. SHRI RANGA: What he is asking and that has also been passed on to the is whether it is the intention of Govern- Ministries concerned. ment to include it in the Fourth Plan, whether the whole of it or at least a AVAILABILITY OF OIL AND GAS IN pant of it in. the Fourth Plan. GUJARAT

SHRl P. C. SETHI: Unless it is fully *546. SHRI D. +R. PARMAR: scrutinised, it will be difficult to say that, but as soon as the scrutiny is over SHRI R. K. AMIN : and the opinions are available, we would SHRI P. N. SOLANKI : certainly like to take it up. SHRI RAMACHANDRA I. AMIN: SHRI SURENDRANATH DWIVE- DY : Is it not a fact that entire project Will the Minister of PETROLEUM report on this Talcher industrial com- AND CHEMICALS be pleased to plex was prepared by Indian engineers state: and at several stages this has been dis- (a) whether it is a fact that the e~i cussed between the Planning Commis- mates of availability of oil and gas in. sion and the Finance Minister and the Gujarat S:ate is now much higher than Finance Ministry has okayed it as far what it was some two or three years ago; 'IS the Plao is concerned, and if so, may I know what further discussions are ~a (b) if so, the steps taken for increas- ing "Iaee and why it is not included in ing the refining capacity in the State the Founh Plan? either by expanding the capacity in the existing unit or by establishing one ad- SHRI p. C. SETHI : The commission- ditional unit; and in.g of the project report was done by the Orissa Mining Corporation and the (c) in the case of an additional unit, CFRI Ocsigns Bureau, and the Designs its likely location? Bureau of the HSL were also consulted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN and they were closely associated with THE MINISTRY OF PEfROLEUM the writing of the project report. Be- AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL sides. the NML were also consulted. WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMA- Messrs. Fried Krupps of Germany were IAH) : (a) The recoverable ree~ as also consulted as far as the report is now assessed are a little higher than concerned. But there are conflicting those about three years ago. opinions and there are two poinr..s of view. The Finance Ministry is of the (b) Action has already been laken to opinion that the first stage need only allow the Gujarat Refinery to expand its be taken up if it is to be taken. up but capacity to 3 million tonnes per annuml the Planning Commission is of the 3pi· which will take care of the additional nion that if the project is to be taken quantities of oil available. 2703 Oral Answers MARCH 11. 1968 Oral Answers' 2704

(c) No additional refioery is consider- huge quantity. In spite of the installa- ed necessary. tion of certain equipments as instructed by ONGC, the Broada Industries say SHRI D. R. PARMAR' what i" the that they are not in a position to supply quantity of oil from the Gujarat oil the gas. On the ~her hand. the ONGC field area being transported al present say 'we are prepared to supply, but they to other refineries outside that State? are not ahle to take the gas'. What is the exact position and who is correct? SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH : I require notice. SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH: I think SHRI D. R. PARMAR: h i:a fact arrangements are being made .to give that Burmah-Shell has expanuc-d its re- subject to uvailabilitv a~ much as the finery as it is getting some oil from the Industries cab~b. Gujarat oil field areas. SHRI MANUBHAI PATEL: The Industries have already installed the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEU1\\ equipment as per instructions of AND CHEMICALS AND SOCIAL ONGC. Now the Industries say, 'we WELFARE (SHRI ): have already installed the cquipmell:. No: for that purpose. but they are not able to supply the gas', SHRI RAMCHANDRA J. AM IN : what is the real position? Arc Government aware that the gas SHRT RAGHU RAMAIAH: If the from the Gujarat oilfields insteao of implication is that gas is being withheld. being tendered for joint public ':.ction is it is not correct. We arc willing and simply burnt at Kalol and Ankleswar? ready to supply as mllch as they can SURI RAGHU RAMAIAH: Only take. that which cannot be immediately utilis- SHRI PASHABHAI PATEL: Tn ed is being flared. But every elIort is view of the increasing quantities of oil made to utilise as much as possible. being found day by day in Gujarat. SHRI M. B. RANA: Are Govern- what arc the difficulties in hvain.g a ment aware that nearly one lakh acres petro-chemical complex there? of khar land is available in Broach dis- trict which can be utilised for an ad- SHRI RAGHU RAMATAH : That is ditional refinery if and when set up? being expedited, as the han. Member knows. SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH: The SHRI P ASHABHAT PATEL: is a additional refinery question depends on It vague reply. availability of additional resources. We arc making the best use of whatever is SHRT : In view anticipated by way of resources. of ~he fact that the whole of Gujarat SHRI RANGA: To an earlier ques- area is known to be oil-bearing. has any tion. he answered that gas was being prospecting for oil been don.e in the burnt away. What specific efforts are Rann of Kutch area? If so, with what heing made to utilise as much as possihle result? of thM gas ? The second question is this. Just SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH: If pre- now the hon. Minister said that they do ference is to cooking gas, we are now not have cylinders. Is ¢his the way the increasing the availability of cylinders. Government function? When gas is 80 As and when we have them, distribution much in short supply and there is 80 is being arranged townwise and State- much demand for it, is it excusable to wise. So the bottleneck. now is of say that they do not have tbe cylinders ,course of cylinders in many cases. or pipes and so on, and thus let the gas go wute? What efforts are beine; SHRI MANUBHAI PATEL: He has made 10 avoid this wastage so that it replied that gas is available in a very can be put to proper use? 2705 O,.al Allswers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Oral Allswe,.s 2706

SHRI ASOKA MEHTA: In various SHRI DHIRESWAR KALITA: I do parts of Gujarat, seismic surveys are be- not know whether I will be allowed, be>- ing carried on, and until the surveys are cause I want to ask something about adequately and fully carried out all to Assam, because it is the same Minillitry. where there are indications of oil, it is not possible for me to say about any MR. SPEAKER: Same Ministry, particular area in advance. As far as same country, but it is a different ques- cylinders are concerned, the main diffi- tion. culty there is steel. There is a particu- SHRI HEM BARUA : When this so- lar type of steel that is needed for it. called oil field at Cambay was discover- UnfortunMely, that kind of steel was re- ed, I remember the then Minister, Mr. quired also for some USe which is greal. K. D. Malaviya, announced with fanfare er priority. and therefore what was ini- tha.! there is an oil rush in Gujarat, but tially allocated to IOC could not be ultimately it was found that it was not made available. We are getting some an oil field primarily, but a gas field. In ,teel and we are trying to see that more that context, may I know whether, while "teel of that kind is made available. so speaking about possible oil reserves in that more cylinders can be produced. As Gujarat. GovernmeDt have undertaken far as natural gas is concerned, I would more fully geological prospecting and ,ay that the entire gas that is available catting of the area, whether Govern- just now has been allocated for particu- ment are in a position to tell us if sui lar uses. Most of this gas will be used gas is going to be available in the Guja- hy power stations. but some of the rat fields? power stations. I am sure hon. members of Gujarat know. are having their own SHRI ASOKA MEHTA: There are difficulties. and therefore they are not some' fields where oil is being produced. able to take it. What has been a\1ocat- and others where we expect oil to be cd to power s.:ations cannot be given to found. There are areas where gas is be- somebody else during this period of six ing produced, and we expeot gas to be months or one year when these stations found in other areas. As the bon. arc having difficulty. because much of member himself pointed out, the Minis- this is associated gas which comes out ler rushed in and said something which with the production of oil which has to was not justified. In the oil industrv he flared. there has been no alternative it is very difficult to know to what ex.:cnt to that, but a\1 t he gas that is available future prospects will be there. If he has been allocated either for power pur- says something you want to be critical. poses or for industry or for manufacture if he does not say anything there 31so of fertilisers. There is no surplus which you want to be critical. So, I IVOUId is available which has not been allocat- rather err on the side of realism and not ed. bUll its utilisation does take some hold out any hope. time. SHRI HEM BARUA: May I submit that Mr. Asoka Mehta's predecessor. ~~~:~iii was so much enamoured of oil field, that he even wrote an article in the LillI.:. ~ if ~ if; ~ ;rt1r

SHRl S. KANDAPPAN : The cost of will find that the locations of the refine- production in our public sector refineries ries have been very carefully and pre- is comparatively higher than in the pri- cisely made. vate ones, and I am told that the. very location of our public sector refineries SHRI SURNEDRANATH DWI- has got something to do with that. The VEDY : Is it not a fact that the Public private seator refineries are also clam- Undertakings Commibtee recommended ouring for expansion and for more sup- as early as 1965 that the wasted gas ply of crude on the basis that they can should be made available for domestic reduce their cost of production. So, I purposes to the local inhahitants? May would like to know from the Minister J know whether Government has made whether, when expanding the puhlic sec- any survey in this matter, and whether tor refineries or putting up now refineries. any steps have been taken in this direc- they will take into consideration the cost tion '! of production. SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH: In determining the market for distribution, SHRI ASOKA MEHTA: If in a all factors ar~ taken into account. particular case the cost of production is bigher, it is so because it was put up DR. RANEN SEN: Is i,: a fact that ten years later and the investments arc in the Gujarat coast there was some sort larger, and therefore the earlier plant of prospecting made by Soviet oil ex- always bas a slight advantage. but apart perts, and they came to the conclusion from this increased capital cost, I think that from off-shore drilling oil can be out refineries are as efficient as anv other recovered in huge quantities. and they refineries located outside. . were prepared ':0 help in this malter. Is il a fact that in spite of this offer from the Soviet Government. the Petroleum The second question is whcther pri- Ministry is going to some American vate sector refineries arc wanting to ex- company for this exploration of off- pand. There is no suggestion ,:hat they shore oil? should be allowed to expand IIS far as we are concerned, hut some of these reline- SHRI ASOKA MEHTA: Seismic ries have certain capacities whiCh can hc surveys were carried out w':h the help utilised, and they are saying that with- of Soviet experts in the Com bay area. out any investment this capacity may It is true that certain structures have be permitted to be, utilised. If and been identified which are said to be oil- when this question of utilisation of in- hearin.g. Broadly speaking, the structure creased refining capacity is taken up. can be divided into three parts. The this matter also will be looked into on first part is the structure where, though its own merits. it is in sea, part of it is land which juts out of the sea. The res.t of the area is The third question is about wrong under water. The second structure is location. I do not think they have heen entirely water. The third structure is in wrongly located, because mainly loca- deeper waters. As far as the first struc- tions are determined on two considcra- lUre is concerned. the ONGC is in a tions, firstly whether the refineries arc posh:ion to organise its work by itself near the production centres, for inst.ance heeause it can set up a drillor start dril- Koyali or Gauhati, or Barauni where it ling on the land area, on the surface has been set up not because there is pro- that juts out of the sea, and we have duction near about, but because from consulted the Soviet experts lind they that point the distribution would be most are also satisfied that the ONGC will economical. The second consideration he able to do it. The other area is is that they are near the port towns under 20 feet of water and we have had where crude can be easily imported. a special group of Soviet experts to visit These are the places where consump- India recently and with their co-opera- tions Nquirements are very large. If tion we feel that the second structure the hon. members look into the distri- can also be undertaken. The third area bution map of our oil products, they is under very deep waters, where the 2709 Oral Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Oral Answers 2710

Soviet experts are not in a position to SHRI UMANATH: One of the alle- undertake or to give any advice or assis- gations against the foreign oil companies tance as ,to what should be done. is that since they are allowed to make Whether we should postpone the wor;' retail sales of part of the oil, they are for the time being till such time as we fixing the prices in such a way as to get the expertise or we should seek the undercut the prices so as to defeat the co-operation of some western countries public sector undertakins in the industry. are mat,!ers under careful consideration So, I would like to know whether the <>f the Government, 'and I would beg of Government have examined this aspeot the hon. Members not to reach any of the question and, if so, what action conclusions till the Government make have they taken. up its mind and put their conclusions before Parliament. SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH: The prices are all determined and there is no question of their having special prices RETAIL OUTLETS COMMITTEE for them. + COAL AND NAPHTHA BASED FERTILIZER *550. SHRI UMANATH: PLANTS SHRI P. P ESTHOSE: SHRI E. K. NAYANAR: *553. SHRI SHIVA CHANDRA SHRI P. RAMAMURTHY: JHA: Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased Will the Minister of PETROLEUM to ~:ate : AND CHEMICALS he pleased ,to refer to the reply given to Starred Question (a) whether Government have made No. 530 on the 7th December. 1967 any comparative study of the advantage, and state: and disadvantages of the Coal-hased and naphtha-hased fertilizer plants in India: (a) whether Government have consi- and dered the repon of the Retail Outle!s Committee; and ~ if so, the re~t of that IItudy ? (b) if so, the decision taken thereon? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM THE MINISTER OF STATE IN AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL RAMAIAH) : (a) and (b). A prelimi- WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU nary study has shown that the eOlllpara- RAMAIAH) : (a) Yes, Sir. tive economics of naptha based and coal- based fertilizer plants depend upon vari- (b) The Government have decided to ous factors such as process routes, ini- accept and adopt all the recommenda- tial investmellJ!, size of the plant, its 10- tions made by the Retail Outlets Com- eation vis-a-vis market, cost of raw mate- mittee. rials and utilities, the product mix and SHRI UMANATH: May I know the sale price. Accordingly, a more what are the main recommendations detailed study with reference to pal1li- made by the Committee? cular locations has been undertaken. It is in progrcss. SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH: There are a number of recommendations. For -ttm":RT: t~~ the information of the hon. Member, I lI1! ;;n;r;rr ~ ~ A; ~ '!ocf't 0 may state that we have already laid copies of the report in the Parliament ~ ;;IT ie"~" "<'I'ie m ~ ~ ~ Library. ~ ~~ {trrr 1fT ~- am: 111fT MR. SPEAKER: Very well; it is ~~~~~~~ available. ~ t~~ ~ ~ ~ m.1flIT I 2711 Ora! Answers MARCH II, 1968 Oral A,/Swers 2712

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MR. SPEAKER: Now we will cover (C) how IODg it would take to com- the whole of India ? plete the back-log as a result of the steps taken to clear the pending a'ssessment SHRI P. VISWAMBHARAN: The cases and collect the arrears? Minister has meDtioned so many pro- jects. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE MR. SPEAKER: This question is not (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) Yes, Sir. about any particular place. Let us go (b) The number of pending assess- to the next question. ment cases as on 31st March, 1961 and 31st March, 1967 was 6,19,117 and SHRI K. SURAYANARAYANA- 23,47,513 respectively. rose- MR. SPEAKER: You want to ask ( c) It is not possible to estimate the about Kothagudium? We cannot cover exact time it would take to clear the the whole of India in this question. He back-log of pending aSSeSSmeDts aDd may also resume his seat. collect the arrears though al\ effective steps are being taken to do so as soon as SHRI P. VISWAMBHARAN: The possible. Minister has mentioned other r~ct. t,t"; ;~ ;n:ri: ~~ Why did not he mention this also? What ITI1 aroom is the position in regard to the proposed ~t~~~~~~ naphtha-based petro-chemical complex ~ f.1; 1961 ifi 6 <'IN ~ ~ in Cochin? ~ if11tT ~ am: 1967 ~ 23 <'1111' MR. SPEAKER: No, please. We ~ ~~ ifi if11tT ~ "t {ftlrr be pleased to state : ~~~~ ~;;riiit;~ (a) whether it is a fact that pending ~ ~ I ~ fit; lIi'tt ~ assessment of Income-tax: cases have m been progressively rising during the last ~ ~ if ~. ~ \lIffi It>"t ;;mfi t I six years; ~ s11f ~ !flit: 3fm:r ~ (b) if so, what was ¢he Dumber of ~~"~~"~ pending assessmeDt cases in 1961 and what was the number at the end of 1967; ~ 'IT I 1l' ~ IiImI' ~~ ~ m and ~ 1f fit; m.rr ~ 00 t w L13 LSS/68-2 2715 Oral Answers MARCH tt, 1968 tDra/ A lIBWer.. 2 71 G

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SHRI S. S. KOTHARI: The current 'Sf) filSllf ;{q Ii,,: Ofr Qt I ~ budget for the year 1968-69 provides th~ limitation period for completing assess- q

SHRI K. C. PANT: Naturally. the 'Sf) f.-rOlf l'fTl:11fGf : -q ~ ~ Ministry will take aU consequential steps and where it is essential to increase the ~~~~i; ~r~ staff, it will also be done. In fact. cer-

,,"t par If": ~ ~ ~ question. While I cannot vouchsafe .t the accuracy of the figures, broadly ~~~ speaking, the Burmah-Shell figures ap- pear to be correct. The amount of about ~. ~ t~r:;; ~ ~~ Rs. 540 crores refers to the entire collec- ~~~~i;~i~~ tion arrears and Dot ,to 10 or 15 firms or individuals. A lot of these arrears are ~~it~~tt~ locked up in the various stages of the ~ ~ ~ ~ fif; orr{ ~;~ ~ legal machinery. Wherever we can col- ~i;":~r~~ lect them, certain.ly we collect them. ~i 1fR i't"? ~ ~ ~ "ri~~: ~~ ~ ~ ~ g3!T ~ fq; ~ ~ ~ ~ ; 'fiWTI g f'li" 'IQ if lfi<: or Padma Vibhushnn to the highest in- am lfi<: ~ ~ ~ ~ 3fIr{ come-tax evaders aod if so. what are the ~ '1l1ii fit; i"~i 'f rn ~ ~ names in that list? lfi<: 'li"T ~ ~ t~ ~ i'i1 MR. SPEAKER: This is ·the most im- -.:~ 'li"T ~ ~ ~ ;;JT('1T ~ portant question! SHRI HEM BARUA: May I know SHORT NOTICE QUESITON whether it is a fact that an amount of OI.YMPIC GAMES IN MEXICO Rs. 541.71 crores of assessed income- tax is outstanding from some 15 big in- + div'iduals and 15 firms and whether it h SNQ.6. SHRI CHANDRA JEET also a fact that a foreign oil company. YADAV: Burmah-Shell Refineries i~:ed. ope- SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- rating its husiness in India, has to "ay GRAHl: an income-tax of Rs. 286 lakhs to the SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE: Government and they have not paid. and if so, what steps Government have taken Will the Minister of EDUCATION mop up these tnx arrears early from the he pleased to state: individuals and firms concerned? (a' whether it is a fact that Interna- SHRI K. C. PANT: This information tional Olympic Committee has aUowed has been given recently in answer to a South African Repuhlic to take part in 2719 Oral Answers MARCH 11, 1%8 Oral Answer" 1720 the Olympic games in Mexico and be- those of Government, and I am told that cause of this decision many Asian-Afri- they are meeting by the first week of can countries have decided to boycott April to ratify that decision. the Olympic games; and

(b) if so, the s!and of Government SHRI CHANDRA JEET Y ADAV : in this regard ? Keeping in view the fact that the Indian Olympic Association is mostly financed THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION by the Government of India, and the (DR. TRIGUNA SEN) : (a) Yes. Sir. Education Ministry provides financial ~ sistance to a very great extent to the (b) Government of India are opposed Indian Olympic Association and the to South African participation in Olym- Indian Olympic Association cannot send pic Games for so long as the ramifica- its team outside the c'Ountry unle.ss and tion of that Government's pernicious until they get foreign exchange from Apartheid policy permeates the field of the Finance Ministry may I know sports. whether even if the Indian Olympic Association violates the advice of the SHRI CHANDRA JEET Y ADAV Government of India, the Government of India will take suitable measures to (Azamgarh): May I know from the hon. Minister whether it is a fact that the de- see that their assistanCe is stopped and cision to re-admit South Africa m the the Indian Olympic Association is not Mexico Olympic Games is contrary to given foreign exchange for this purpose ? the Olympic International Charter it- self and, therefore, till today more than DR. TRIG UNA SEN : The hon. 50 countries all over the world have de- Member should not have any doubt cided to boycott the Mexico OlympIC about that. Games. May I also know from the Minister whether ,!he Government of SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE: Recently, India has advised the Indian Olympic the International Olympic Committee Association that they should also openly has announced its decision to readmit the declare that the Indian Olympic Associ- racialist Olympic Committee of South ation is not going to participate ill the Africa to participate in the Mexico Mexico Olympic Games unless and un- games and this has caused an itcr~ til South Africa is bared from participat- tional furore, may I know whether in ing in these Games 1 view of the equivocal attitude taken up by the International Olympic Committee DR. TRIGUNA SEN: According to and especialy its president Mr. Pnmdage, article 2S of the rules governing Olym· Government will make it very clear that pic Games, the National Olympic Com- If South Africa is admitted 10 the mittee is completely independent and Mexico Games on any condition autonomous, so that it is in a position whatever, this country will not partic.i- 10 resist all political, religious and com- pate in it, because what I fear is that mercial pressures. As such, the Gov- these professional bodies like the Indian ernment of India cannot directly inter- Olympic Association are sometimes fere in the decision of the Indian Olym- guided by certain considerations which pic Association. However, in May, 1967, do no take into account the national the Government had informed ,the Presi- policies of this country in regard to dent of the Indian Olympic Association apartheid? In view of .he recent that it was opposed to South African aggravation of this question of apartheid participation in international OlympiC particularly on account of the happenings meets so long as .the ramification of that in Southern Rhodesia and elsewhere. will Government's pernicious Apartheid Government make it very clear to the policy permeated the field of sports. Indian Olympic Committee and also to In reply. the president of the Indian the All India Council of Sports which Olvmnic Association has assured Gov- is meeting almost immediately, that Go- ernment that the views of the Indian vernment's policy is strict and is not ging Olympic Association were similar to to be departed from 1 2721 OrG/ AI/swers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 ~ OrG/ Answers 2722

DR. TRIGUNA SEN: I have stated DR. TRIGUNA SEN: I do not the policy of Government and I may as- agree that We should got out of this in- sure the House that we stick to that p0- ternational organisation, but surely we Iicy, and even if the Indian Olympic As- sball see that the interests of sports sociation take a view contrary to the Go- rather than politics are our primary vernment's decision, we shaII surely act considera.tion. accordingly. SHRI CHENGALRAYA NAlDU: i:~" UIf: 3ft1ffi ~ ami' When we ourselves have admitted the fin<: ~~ <:lfmm ""Tar ID BrnI'r.Rrr delegates of South Africa to the ~i;~~;i~;;rr~~ UNCfAD, with what face can we .lOW say that we shan not send our team to h:~~~it;~~ the Mexico Games because South Afri- iiii~~ ~~ ~ cans have been admitted there? ;lefT ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ fit; ~ DR. TRIGUNA SEN: I cannot say regarding the UNCfAD. crc~ ~ 3IlI1:' 3fT"Tifi'T ~ ~~ SHRI GIRRAJ SARAN SINGH: 3fMI'l/fi ~::~ ~ ~ ~ aT While deprecating any racialist tendency 'flIT ~ fit; ~ ~ ~ lit ~ anywhere in the world, I hope that surely the Government of India wishes ;;~~i~~ that the Olympic movement in the world ~ OR lfi<: ll'T ;;ynMf ~ ~ should continue and win not take a hasty ~~~~~ decision with regard to boycotting the Mexican games without taking into con- if; lIN ~ ~ ;r i'T ri? i~rati the cultural and other factors DR. TRJGUNA SEN: I have already involved in continuance of the Olympic replied. We do not propose to keep mevement. out of the International Olympics be- DR. TRIG UNA SEN: As I have cause we believe in sports. But we win said. we told the Indian Olympic Asso- join only if South Africa is excluded. ciation our opinion that as long as the Soutb African Government participated 'if! .. f:ih Iff : 3!Um' ~ r~ we should not participate. If the Indian om: ;;rar <:'T'IT '!iTfurr f.nq ~ ~ Association ratifies our decision we step out, but if they decide that even if the ~ ~ aT "IroT m'fiR lit ~ ~ South Africans were there, they would it;~~;r~~~ jOin, then surely Government will inter- 3fiT ~ ~ ~ if; velie. I'Jt tiT SHRI BALRAJ MADHOK: In view lIN ~ ~ sffl f.t;crr ~ I 3IlI1:' of the faot that like other international ~ lilfiR ~ "11<:<1' m'fiR if; ~ !fiT organisations. the International Olympic ~ ~ ~ ~ ;;it 'Ill'rcI' Committee is also plagued with power fq;;: ll'fefOT politics and in view of the fact also thaI 3ffumr if; ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 3IlI1:' like most national organisations, our Ii

HUNGER S'I'RlKE BY RESERVE BANK (c) A statement showing the impor- EMPLOYEES tant steps taken to check smuggling is pleased on the table of othe Sabha. *544. SHRI C. K. CHAKRAPANI: SHRI B. K. MODAl{ : Statement S*lRI A. K. GOPALAN : Among the important steps taken to SllRi E. K. NAYANAR: check smuggling are: systematic col- SHRI RAMJI RAM: lection and follow-up of information, SHRI MOLAHU PRASAD : rummaging of suspected vessels and air- craft, patrolling of vulnerable sections of SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA: the coastline and land frontiers and Will the Minister of FINANCE be launching of prosecution in suitable ea~-ed to state: cases in addition to departmental adju· dication. In the field of legislation the (a) the steps taken by Government to Cus:oms Act now provides for imposi- settle the dispute of ,the employees of tion of heavier sentences of impriscn- the Reserve Bank of India who went on mem hy courts of law. In the cue of week-long hunger strike since 6-2-68 seizures of gold. diamonds and watches throughout the country against th" in- provision has also been made in the stallation of computers; and Customs Act for placing the burden of proof that these goods are not smuggled. (b) the results .:hereof ? on thc persons from whom ilbey are seized. Among the important economic THE MINISTER OF STATE IN measures taken. the two significant ones THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE are: (i) replacing by a special currency (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) and (b). in 1959 of the Indian currency notes Assurances ha\le already been given by circulating in the Persian Gulf aTea the Reserve Bank that the installation which provided an easy means of finan- of the computer will neither lead to job cin.g illegal gold transactions and (ii) in- displacement nor block rti~ troduo:ion of the Gold Control. avenues for the existing employees. Go- vernment docs not. therefore. consider it necessary to intervene in the matter. GOLD SEIZED FROM BOAC PLANE "54R SHRJ D. N. PATODIA: Will GOLD SMUGGLING the Mi~iter of FINANCE be pleased to state: '547. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will the Mii~r of FINANCE be pleased (a) whether it is 'a fact that the Col- to state: lector of Customs and Central Excise. ordered confisca.:ion of the (a) whether gold smuggling has in- BOAC Plane which was found carrying crcasedas compared to 1965; gold and imposed drastic fines on several counts; (b) if so, to what extent; and (b) whether it is also a fact that car- (c) the steps taken ,to eheck the rying of gold by international airliner is same? not very uncommon and other airliners had also been indulging in such practice; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISfRY OF FINANCE (c) whether Government have receiv- (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) It is not ed any representa:ion from the U.K. possible to make a precise estimate of Government in the matter and if so, the the quantity of gold smuggled into nature of such representation and the India. There is also no material before reply given by Government to them; and the Government 40 indicate that the 1>muggling of gold has increased as com- (d) whether tbe BOAC bas made any pared to 1965. separate represen:ation to Government in the mailer and, if so, the reaction of (b) Does notarise.. Government thereto? 2727 Writtell er.~ MARCH 1 I, 1968 Writtell Answers 272&

1HE MINISTER OF STATE IN survey the present facilities available at THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE Government hospitals in New Delhi and (SHRI K. C. PANT):

(e) if so, the names of persons ar- pleased to refer to the reply given to- rested in this regard ? Unstarred Question No. 782 on the 16th November, 1967 and state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE, (a) the progress so far made in the (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) to (e). The enquiry being conducted into the irregu- information is being collected and will larities made by the top officers of the be bid on the Table of the Sabha. Punjab National Bank; (b) the details of the report, if sub- ADVANCE ORDER FOR JUTE BAGS mitted. and the action taken there~ and '555. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the Minister of WORKS, HOUS- (c) if not, the reasons for the delay? ING AND SUPPLY be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN state: THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (a) whether an advance order for a (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) and (b). huge quantity of jute bags has been The investigation are still in progress. placed on Government account recently; and final report is not yet ready. (b) if so, the value of the order and (c) The investigation involves the delivery schedule of the same; and examination of very large number of documents and is likely to take some (c) the benefit confererd thereby on more time. Ihe jute mill companies under the Indian J ute Mills Association? ~i~ ~ ~r.

THE MINISTER OF WORKS, • 558. IlIi a~"" ~ i~r : HOUSING AND SUPPLY (SHRI "I ~~"" mri : JAGANATH RAO): (a) No, Sir. .,.0 '" ~ (b) and (c). In view of (a) above, "I ~~ m"'l"I : : I his does not arise. 'flIT ~ ~ ~ lI'cfi ~ ~ FERTILIZER PLANT IN MAHARASHTRA tT F1T rn fit;: *556. SHRI N. K. P. SALVE: Will (If;) ~~;~ the Minister of PETROLEUM AND ~ lI'r.r;rr, ;;ft tr;!f; ~ ~ ..rt CHEMICALS be pleased to state whe- Iher Government have approved the lI'r.r;rr ~ l: ft"IfT;nIT t ail<: ~ 'lT ~ plant in Maharashtra in collaboration f.fuP;r aNt fiI;1rr ;;rr;rr ~ I with a foreign firm. IMPORT OP STEEL SHEETS BY I.O.C. PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK ·559. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will< ·557. SHRI ABDUL GHANI DAR : the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Will the Minister of FINANCE be CHEMICALS be pleased to refer to the- 2731 Writlen A,,,,• ..,ers MARCH II, 1968 Written Answers 2732

reply given to Sbart Notice Question No. ~.-r i~ ~" tf,f.-('>i.- '0 \'(0 16 on 21st December,' 1967 and state: u. ("') : ~ "" l!;af; ~ lfil: ~ fit; ;;r;rmif r~ i~i ~ r~ 1f\: 1f(;ft ~ I (a) whether it is a fact that the I.O.C. converted illi licence of Rs, 45 lakhs for importing Steel Sheets for manufactur- (!t') ~ ~~i ~it "') ';I:U ~ ing bitumen drums to sheets for making .r~r ~ ~ ~ oil barrels; i I 'Ifn'if;rraii rr-:f,- (d) whethc'r further licences have ll'ffiCffer "'..,. ~ it ~ q 'iT;'! { 3!TV., THE MINISTER OF STATE IN I ';"1' ciT Jfl'''t 'ITs( r THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM f'f.ln' 1 it 'if;;r ~ cir 'f,'1f ~ it ftrii' Indian Oil C.orporation of about 50 lakhs for 24·Gauge steel were converted for ~ 'f.T :t 1'f1Jf for the Burmah-Shell Refineries Ltd., "NTm it; n:'f. '+fflT it "'1' ii, ;:;:ffiT iF and ~ Refineries Ltd.. for Rs. 170 ~~;;r ~"i ~~ '+fflTT ~ lakhs and Rs. 60 lakhs respectively, it ::r thr~h the Minerals & Metals Trading it; ~ q;: -.:rr f'f'fT' f'f.llT JfT 'iIT t I Corporation of India, has heen recom- mended. OPIUM AND ALKALOLD FACTORY, Gtl.>.ZIPUR

~i ~t 'lff.\'t i~~ ':'561. SHRI TRIOIB KUMAR CHAUDHURl: Will the Minister of 5 6 O. 31'f'fin: "IT"" 'flIT * ","t ;{-oo: FINANCE he pleased to state: TWiflt 31'1\ ~i Q( ~ ~ ;f.r ~ ~it; : (a) whether it is a fact that there are a numher of industrial disputes pending between the workers and management 'Of ( '" ) 'flIT ~ ~

.(c) if so, what are their demands; aDd ~~ If"",, -.sT ~~i (d) the steps taken by Government ~r. to ensure that the just and legitimate

IMPACT OF D.A. ON PRICES ~it;~~~ ·S64. SHRI LOBO PRABHU: Will ~ ~ ~crr I ~ mr CI"IT' the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to ~ ~ CI!Tlim ~ ~ slate: arm f;;rm SI'ftnrt ~ ~ ~ l{ ~ (a) whether any statistical survey has ~ it; ~ 66-70 l{ ~ fWl;TfuT been made on the synchronisation of the price increase with every increase in ~~ dearness allowances: and (Ii') ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ;;mft

INDIA'S FOREIGN LIABILITIEs AND ASSETS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM *567. SHRI S. R. DAMANI ; Will & CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL the Minister of FINANCE be pleased WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMA- to state; 'IAH) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether the survey of India's (b) Production of alcohol depends foreign liabilities and assets has not been on the avaJabiJity of molasses which in made by the Reserve Bank of India after turn depends on the producton of sugar. 1955; The partial decontrol of sugar is expect- ed to improve the position over a period. (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Meanwhile, arrangements have been made to import substantial quantities of (c) whether Government propose to alcohol for the major alcohol-based in- -make another survey to bring the posi· dustries in the country. tion up-to-date? (c) The State Governments are nOI THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER agreeable to this proposition as it would & MINISTER OF FINANCE, (SHRI result in a reduction in their excise MORARJI DESAI) ; (a) The Reserve revenues. Bank of India conducted a survey of (d) Imports of styrene have been India's forei gn liabilities and assets in arranged for the two polystyrene unlts 1961 and the Survey Report was pub- in the country. One of them bas lished in 1964. The Reserve Bank also planned to switch over from alcohol to published in the January 1967 issue of ethylene to be obtained from the Bombay its bulletin an article on India's Inter- Petrochemical Complex during the cur- national Investment Position in 1963-64 rent year. Arrangements are also under and 1964-65. consideration for import of butadiene (b) Does not arise. for Synthetic Rubber Factory at Bareilly. OnCe this is achieved, availability posi. (c) Data for subsequent years are be- tion of alcohol in the country is expect- ing collected. ed to ease considerably.

PHARMACEUTICAL CoMPANIES SHOilTAGE OF ALCOHOL 3401. SHRI BABURAO PATEL: "568. SHRI S. S. KOTHARI; Will Will the Minister of HEALTH, the Minister of PETROLEUM AND FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN CHEMICALS be pleased to state: DEVELOPMENT be pleased to stale : (a) whether it is a fact that there is (a) the nature of checks provided -colllliderable shortage of alcohol, con- for ensuring purity and standards or the sequent upon which various alcohol- products manufactured by Pharmaceuti- based industries are working below cal Companies by Government prior to .capacity; their sales to the public; (b) if so, ,the action talten to step up (b) tbe number and names of pro- tbe produCtion or import of alcohol; ducts found impure and substandard during the last 3 years and the names (c) whether Government are consi- of their manufacturers; and dering diversion of alcohol from the mauufacture of wines and spirits to the (c) the action taken against each? _alcohol-based industries; and mE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TIm (d) the steps taken to provide alter- MINISTRY OF HEALm, FAMILY nate petro-based feedstocks to these in- PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- dustries viz. synthetic rubber, polysty- LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY) : rene, polyethylene and p.v.c which can (a) A statement giving the requisite in- use petro-butadiene petroethylene? formation is laid on the Table of the 2739 WriUen Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Written Answers 2740·

House. [PlDccd in Library. See No. LT- PuBLIC CONVENIENCES IN GOVERNMENT 414/68). CoLONIES (b) and (c:). The information is being 3403. SHRI M. L. SONDHI; Will collected and will be laid on the Table' the Minister of WORKS, HOUSING of the Sabha in due course. AND SUPPLY be pleased to state : (a) whether it is a fact that some of the markets, built in Government em- REVENVE OF ANDHRA PRADESH ployees' residential colonies have not been provided with public conveniences; 3402. SHRI. M. N. REDDY: Will and the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) Whether there is any such pro- posal to build bathrooms for the markets (a) the total annual grant given to in Government employees' residential Andbra Pradesh since 1956 to the end areas? of March, 1967 towards the share of tax levied on Petrol and Diesel sold in THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE that State; MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUSING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL (b) the total tax collected by the SINGH) : (a) and (b). Public conven- Central Government since 1956 to the iences such as bathrooms. etc .. have been end of March, 1957 from Petrol and or are being provided in the markets diesel etc. sold in Andhra Prade,h; and constructed in various Government colonies, except in Babu Market, as (c) what proportion the Central bathrooms are available in the adjacent Government from the above revenues Sarojini Nagar Market. bore to the amount of tax collected on -the sale of Petrol and other fuels an· nually in Andhra Pradesh during the ROAD ROLLERS above period ? 3404, SHRI K. N. PANDEY: Will the Minister of WORKS. HOUSING TIlE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND SUPPLY be pleased to refer to AND MINISTER OF FINANCE the reply given to Unstarred Question (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and No. 4175 on the 14th December, 1967 (b). The information regarding the total and state : tax collected on petrol and diesel etc. sold in Andhra Pradesh is not available. (a) whether the investigation in res' A statement showing the total annual pect of the Chairman of the United grant given to Andhra Pradesh towards Provinces Commercial Corporation. who their share of tax levied on petrol (under was arrested fol' cheating Government the Central Road Fund) out of the to the extent of Rs. 2.16.64.800 in res· revenues from 1956 to the end of March. ~ct of road rollers and bailed out by 1967 and the amount of Central Excise the Chief Presidency of Calcutta, has duty colIceled on ~tr and diesel etc. since been completed: and (i.e. all petroleum product» cleared from the Refinery and the marketing in- (h) if so, the result of the investiga- stallations in Andhra Pradesh, during tion and the action tak-;:n against the the same p.:riod, is laid on the Table of Chairman of the said firm? the House. [PI(/ced in Lihrary. S,,<, No. L T -415/681. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS. HOUSING (c) The information regardin!! the AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL tax collected on the sale of Petrol and SINGH) : (a) No. Sir. other fuels annually in Andhra Pradesh being not available, it is not possible to (b) In view of (a) above, this does work out the proportion. not arise. 2741 Written Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Writ/en AnslUrs 2742

FILM STAR. DEVAN AND THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE ~. SHRI JUGAL MONDAL: (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Will the Minister of FINANCE be sir. pleased to refer to the reply given to Unatarred Question No. 4374 in Lok (b) There were 1706 firms which Sabba on the 14th December, 1967 and were in arrears of income-tax as on 31st state: March, 1967. The names of such firms are. however, not readily available. The (a) whether the information asked total amount of income-tax arrears out- for therein in respect of the income-tax standing as on 31st March, 1967 was paid by the Film Star, Devanand, has Rs. 89.74 lakhs. As regards charging been collected; and of interest. provision already exists (b) if so, the details thereof? under the law to charge interest on de- layed payments and recover the interest 11-IE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER along with th\! tax in arrears. AND l\HNISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) The (c) Does not arise. infonnation has since been partly col- lected. FARAKKA BARRAGE PROJECT (b) ( i ) Assessments for the assess- ment years 1964-65 to 1966-67 are 3407. SHRI BABURAO PATEL: peading. Particulars of incomelloss Will the Minister of IRRIGATION declared for Ihese assessment years and AND POWER be pleased to state: advance-tax/tax on self-assessment paid for these assessment years is as (a) whether it is a fact that four under :- cellular constructions for Ihe coffer dam --- ~-- -.-----~---::-- --- of the Farakka project were wa.shed c~t Income/loss Amount away recently; Year. Returned. paid. -~.-... -. _ ...- .. ----- -~ Rs. 85,574 Rs. 1.62,379 (h) if so, the reasons therefor: and 1965-66 Rs.2,13,417 Rs. 90,063 1966-67 R,. 3.13,670 (Loss) Rs. - ( c) the damage done as a result thereof? (ii) Information regarding the num- her of Film contracts entered into by THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION the :Isse. SHRI BABURAO PATEL: a~r.t of Income Tax arrears and Will the Mini,ter of IRRIGATION whether Government propose to charge AND POWER be plcased to state: iter~t thereon while making recovery (a) thc number of foreign experts in- thereof; "nd vited so for to supervise the Fuakka (c) if not, the reasons therefor? project; 2743 Writ tell Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Written Answers 2744

(b) if so. their names and qualifica- (a) whether it is a fact that the state tions and the remuneration paid to of affairs in the various cemeteries and them; crematoriums in the capital is far from satisfactory; (c) whether more foreign experts are expected to visit India to guide us on (b) whether the three Vans which this project: and the Corporation possess for taking the dead to distant cemeteries! crematoriums (d) if so, the amount allocated for are not conveniently available and are this purpose? generally reported out of order; THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (c) whether the fire-wood is generally AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) out of stock or not in good condition and (b). No foreign expert has been. in- and is very costly; and vited so far to supervise the work of the (d) h~ther Government propose to Project. However, for assistance in the appoint a Commission of Inquiry to go design of coffer dam, services of twO into these important issues? Soviet specialists were obtained. An expenditure of Rs. 1,43,900 was incurr- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ed on their remuneration, travelling MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY .aJlowance and accommodation. PLANNING AND URBAN DEVELOP- (c) None contemplated at this stage. MENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY): (a) No. (d) Does not arise. (b) Three Vans (Hearses) are avail· able at Nigambodh Ghat on paymen:. ~" 'RT ~i ~i These can be caJled for even telephoni- am- ~ ~;i ~;r- cally. One of them is a brand new van. Efforts are made by the Delhi Municipal 3409. ''IT ~.~ ~: lfl!T Corporation to keep aJl the three vans in ~ "~ ~~ ~ i~ working order. However, sometimes it does happen that a vehicle is not avail- ~ mn ~ ~ ;ft !"IT ~ f.f; : able as it may be under repairs in the (I\'i) ~i~~ii Municipal Workshop due to mechanical defects. ~a:tt~~~ ~~i~~~~~ (c) No. The Municipal Corporation of Delhi maintains its own stalls at the AfiT ~ lit;;m ~ ~; am: main cremation grounds and fire-wood is always in stock in plenty and in good (.-) ~ ~ m ~ ;qTu w condition. Fire-wood at these stalls is ta:~itW;::~ sold at no-profit-no-loss basis and is us- ott t? ually cheaper than in the market (d) Question does not arise. ~ ":~ ~r- ft1n ~ m-m "l'I1f " "'f-QT (I5I'T • 0 ~ 0 ~ ~r.~ '{fif) : ~ ;;ft ~ I 3411. 151'1 ~ "'"' : W ~ (.-) ~ lITo!' ~ ~ I . lI'eft ~ 1967 it atdl

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WORKERS IN BEAS-SuTLEJ LINK HANDLOOM WEAVERS CooPERATIVE 3417. SHRI LALIT SEN: Will the SocIETIES Minister of IRRIGATION AND 3419. SHRI KIRUTIINAN; Will POWER be pleased to slate : the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (a) the number of skilled and un- to slate: 'killed workers employed in the BillS- Sutlej Link Project; (a) whether it is a fact that the loans to the Handloom Weavers' Societies (b) the number of skilled and un- through the District Cooperative Central skilled workers employed from among Banks are restricted by a "Coverage the oustees affecled by the scheme; and System" of the Reserve Bank of India: skilled (c) the number of and un- (b) if so, the details thereof; ,killed workers engaged on the scheme who belong to Himachal Pradesh ? (c) whether Government are aware that the Handloom Weavers' Coopera- THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION tive Societies in Madras State are severe- AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : ly affected by this system; and The requisite information is given be- low;- (d) whether Government propose to relax the Rc;erve Bank of India rules Skilled Unskilled to enable Handloom Weavers' Cooper,,- (a) 6541 7089 live Societies to get loans without much (b) 95 182 difficulty ., (c) 2,747 5,157 THE DEPUlY PRIME MINIstER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE VAIGAI RE-MoDERNISING SCHEME OP (SHRI MORARII DESAI): (a) to MADRAS (d). The information is being obtained and will be laid on the Table of the 3418. SHRI KIRUTTINAN; Will House in due course. Ihe Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state : (a) whether Government have sanc- RELIEf' WORKS IN RAMNAD Of' MADRAS tioned any fund to Tbamizbaga Arusu 3420. SHRI KIRUTTINAN: Will (Government of Madras) to implement the Minister of FINANCE be pleased the Vaigai Re-moderoising Scheme which to state: was recently approved; (b) if so, the amount sanctioned and (II) the amount asked for by the whether it is in the form of loan or full Thamizhaga Arusu (Government of grant; and Madras) for relief works of the damage caused by recent flood and cyclone in (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Ramnad and other districts in Madras State; THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO): (a) (b) whether the required amount baR ':0 (c). No earmarked assisla!lce IS beiDg been sanctioned; and given for the Vaigai re-modemisini sc:heme. The Madras Government are, (c) . If DOt, the reasons therefor 1 2751 Writ/"n Ans... ers MARCH II, 1%8 Wri/ll'l' Answers 2752

. TIlE DEPUlY PRIME MINISTER are prosecuted under the Untouc.hability AND MINISTER OF FINANCE (Offences) Act, 1955. (SHRJ MORARn DESAI): (a> The State Government had estimated the ~ (d) Yes. quirement of funds for relief and repairs to public properties damaged by the re- cent cyclone and floods in certain parts NATIONALIZATION OF LAND IN UIUIAN of the State at Rs. 196.48 lakhs and AREAS had asked for the entire amount to be 3422. SHRI P. R. THAKUR: Will provided as Central assistance. the Minister of WORKS, HOUSING (b) A loan of Rs. 2.50 crores has AND SUPPLY be pleased to state : been sanctioned towards expenditure on (a) whether Government have re- repairs to public properties damaged by ceived any suggestions/recommendations the cyclone of 1966 and by the cyclone for nationalization of land in urbat: and floods of December, 1967. areas for housing purposes; and (c) Does nOI arise. (b) if so. Government's reaclion thereto? SocIAL BOYCOlTS FOR SCHEDULED CASTES THE DEPUlY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUS- 342l. SHRI P. R. TIlAKUR: Will ING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL the Minister of SOCIAL WELFARE be SINGH) : (a) and (b). No such pro- pleased to state : posal has been received or is under the consideration of my Ministry. (a) whether untouchability continues to be openly practised and social boy- cots are also organised against the PROPOS."!. FOR CONTROLLING URBA!" scheduled castes in some nearby Delhi LAND VALUES villages; 3423. SHRI p. R. THAKUR; Will (b) if so, the details of such cases the Minister of HEALTH, FAMILY which have come to the notice of Gov- PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- ernment; LOPMENT be pleased to state :

(c) the action taken 80 far bv the (a) whether Government are aware Delhi Administration in the matter; of the proposals contained in the U.K. and Government White Paper on the Land Commission issued in September. 1965; (d) whether there were any recent court cases in this regard ? (b) whether there are any proposols under consideration for controlling ur- TIlE MINISTER OF STATE IN ban land values more (lr less after the THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL manner suggested. for Britain by the WELFARE (SHRIMATI PHULRENU British Land Commission; and GUHA): (a) Occasional incidents of this nature have occurred in some parts (c) if so. the outlines thereof? of the country. THE DEPUlY MINISTER IN THE (b) As recent cases of this type are MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY sub-judice, it is not feasible to give de- PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- tails at this stage. Details of serious cases LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY); investigated in the past will be found in (a) Yes. the annual reports of the Commissioner for Scheduled Castes and Scbeduled (b) and (c). A Commitee was ap- Tribes. pointed by the Government in 1963 to examine the problems of urban land in (c) Whenever a prima lacie case is the country. 1be report of the com- revealed by investiption, the offenders mitte was publisbed in February, 1965. 2753 W,jllell Allswers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Written Answer.\ ~

Tbe report contains a number of use- (b) the dates when the reports of ful recommendations dealing with urban such Committees were published or are land policy. including the measures to likely to be published; control speculation in land, etc. The (c) whether the Commissioner of report has been circulated amongst the State Governments for careful con- Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes sideration and such action as they may recommended in his Eleventh Report that such committees should be ~ consider feasible. up in a\l the States/Union Territories where these have not already been WELFARE OF BACKWARD CLASSES appointed; 3424. SHRI P. R. llIAKUR: Will (d) if so, the action so far taken in the Minister of SOCIAL WELFARE be that regard; and pleased to state : (e) whether copies of the aJready (a) whether it is a fact that very slow published Reports of the Committees progre.'IS has been made so far with re- would be made available to the Parlia- gard to the promotion of the welfare of ment Library? the backward Classes by and through the State Governments and agencies; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TIfE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL (b) if so, whether Government con- WELFARE (SHRIMATI PHULRENU template to constitute a Central Depart- GUHA) : (a) to (d). In accordance ment to functioD on the> lines of the with the provisions of article 309 of Federal Bureau of Indian Affairs in the Constitution, the question of re~er the United States; vation in services and posts in connL"C- tion with the affairs of a State, is the (c) if not. the reasons thi!refor; and sole concern of that State and Govern- (d) t,he alternati"e proposals for the ment of India have no locus standi in pllrpose ? the matter. It is for the State Gov- ernments to consider the recommenda- TIlE MINISTER OF STATE IN tion made by the Commissioner for THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL Scheduled-Castes and Scheduled ribe~ WELFARE (SHRIMATI PHULRENU and appoint such committees if they ~: (a) This is a matter of opi- consider it necessarv. So far as tJhe mOD. Government of India services are con- cerned. they have appointed a Com- (b) No. mittee and have also constituted a Study Team for this purpose. The (c) and d). The Government of Committee's report is still awaited; the J ndia cannot override the executive report of the Study Team has been re- authority vested in the State Govern- ceived and is being examined. ments by the Constitution. (e) The recommendations made by the Study Team in relation to the Ser- EN.QUIRY COMMITTEES IOOR SCHEDULED vices under the Government of India CASTES AND ScHEDULED TRIBES have already been made available to the HOuse in reply to the unstarred 3425. SHRI P. R. TIfAKUR : Will question No. 835 answered in the Lak the Minister of SOCIAL WELFARE Sabha on the 16th February. 1968. be pleased to state : PROMOTION OF SECTION OFFICERS (a) the name of the State Go,'ern- (CIVIL) C.P.W.D. ments who have so far appointed En- quiry Committees to find out the 3426. SHRI S. D. SOMASUN- rea.'iOIlS for the inadequate representa- DARAM: Will 'he Minister of tion of the Scheduled Castes and WORKS, HOU!llNG AND SUPPLY Scheduled Tribes in their services; be pleased to state : ...... 2755_-- Wrilten Allswers MARCH 11, 1968 Written Answer.• 275C>

(a) the number of Section Officers TIlE DEPUTY MINISTER IN (Civil) in Central P.W.D. who are THE MINISTER OF WORKS, HOUS- eligible for promotion to the grade of ING AND SUPPLY (SHRI "IQBAL Assistant Engineers approximately; SINGH): (a) The number of Assistant Engineers (Civil) reverted in the Cent- (b) the number of Assistant Engi. ral Public Works Department during neers appointed directly through the bhe past six months is 17. No figure U.P.S.C. during the plllit six months can be given at present for the coming and how many are likely to be appoint- six months as reversions, if any, will ed during the next six months; and depend on the workload of the Depart- ment. The reversion of 17 Assistant (c) the stage at which the proposal Engineers (Civil) was ordered panly of reviewing the policy of direct re- on account of reduction in workload cruits stands so as to either completely and partly on account of Union Public stop or to reduce it to the barest mini- Service Commission nominees against mum ? direct recruitment quota joining duty posts. TIlE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUS- (b) These reversions should not ING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL cause any legitimate grievance as the SINGH): (a) 530. Assistant Engineers (Ci\il) reverted as Sectional Officers (Civil) had a\1 been (b) (i) Number so far promoted on purely ad hoc basis pend- appointed: 49 ing availability of U.p.s.C. nominees. Promotion of these officers was for- (ii) Number of tuitous because of the temporary non- persons likely availability of U.P.S.C. nominees to be appointed : 81 against direct recruitment quota and they were well aware that they werc (c) A proposal for stopping direct liable for reversion at any time. recruitment to the temporary vacancies of Assistant Engineers is already under (c) Temporary promotions and re- consideration. After a decision is versions are inevitable in an engineer- reached in this proposal, direct recruit. ing organisation where the establish- ment against permanent vacancies of ment depend entirely on the work-load. Assistant Engineers will be reviewed. A proposal to abolish direet recruit- ment against temporary vacancies of Assistant Engineers in the C.P.W.D. is DEMOTION OF ASSISTANT ENGINEER under consideration. If this is accepted (CIVIL) it will improve the temporary promo- tion prospects of Sectional Officers. 3427. SHRI S. D. SOMAS UN. DARAM: Will the Minister of WORKS, HOUSING AND SUPPLY CoNSTRUCTION OF TAPPER DAM be pleased to state : (GUJARAT) (a) the number of Assistant Engi- 3428. SHRI VIRENDRAKUMAR neers (Civil) demoted during the past SHAH: WiD the Minister of IRRI- six months and the number likely to be GATION AND POWER be pleased reverted in the coming six months and to state: also the reasons for their reversions; (a) whether the Gujarat Govern- (b) whether there is frustration and ment had submitted a Project for the unrest among the Section Officers construction of Tapper Dam; (Chi!); and (b) if so, the details thereof;

(c) if 50, the action proposeG to be (c) whether the same had been turn- taken in restoring confidence and se- ed down anG if so, the reasons there- curity among ~e Section Officers ? for; and 2757 Wriuet/ AII.

(d) whether ~ere is a proposal 10 Centres for the assessment years 1964- revise this project for implementation 65, ~ and 1966-67; during 1968-69 plan Or under the Fourth Five Year Plan ? (b) the number out of them pending finalisation yearwise for these three THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION years; and AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (;1) No, Sir. (c) the reasons for the delay in com- pletion of loss cases expeditiously ? (b) to (d). Do not arise. THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE INTEREST CHARGED ON INCOME-TAX (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) REFUNDED TO ASSESSEES to (c). The information is not readily 3429. SHRI N. K. SANGHI : Will available. The total number of assessee-. the Minister of FINANCE be pleased in these three charges for the e.~ III state : ment years 1964-65 ~ and 1966- 67 was 2.85,4{)5, 3,59,200 and 3,77,638 (a) wbether interest is allowed SI/O respectively. In order to ascertain tbe IIIU/O to the assessees under section 212 number of loss returns filed by the of the Income·tax Act on the refund assessees, the Departmental officers will due to the assessees; and have to scrutinise each one of the re- (b) the amount that has been paid turns. A physical scrutiny of over 10 by the Income-Tax Department in lac returns will throw an enormous addi- Rajasthan during each of the assess- tional burden on the Income-tax Officers ment years. 1964-65, 1965-66 and and as a result their normal assessment 196&-67 ? and collection work will suffer. It may. however, be stated tbat instructions al- THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER ready exist that completion of assess- ments in loss cases should not be AND MINISTER OF FINANCE dt!- (SHRI MORARII DESAI): (a) layed. Section 212 of the Icome-tax Act joes not provide for the allowance of any MEDICAL GRADUATES IN THE CoUNTRY interest to an assessee. Section 214 of 3431. SHRI M. S. MURTI: Will the the Income-tax Act provides for pay- Minister of HEALTH, FAMILY PLAN- ment of interest by the Income Tax NING AND URBAN DEVELOP- Department on excess advance tax paid MENT be pleased to state : hy assessees as per their own esti- mates under section 212. Interest under (a) the total number of Medical section 214 is paid suo moto by the graduates produced in tbe country dur- Income Tax Department in all cae~. ing nbc Second and Third Plan periods wherever it is due. In tbe country separately, year-wise; (b) The information regarding inte- (b) the total number out of them who rest paid under section 214 for each of appeared and passed far the E.C.F.M.G. the assessment years mentioned is not (Educational Council for Foreign Medi- readily a,,·ailable. cal Graduates) during the Second and Third Five Year Plan periods separately year-wise; Loss RETIJRNS UNDER INCOME-TAX out ACT (c) the total number of them who passed through E.C.F.M.G. Ex- 3430. SHRJ N. ~ SANGHI: Will amination, the number of graduates who the Minister of FINANCE be pleased went abroad during Secxmd and Third to state: Plan periods; and (a) the number of 1018 retums under (d) the total number of graduate-; the Income-tax Act that were filed in who went abroad and the nnmber rc:- Rajasthan, Madbya Pradesh and Delhi turned to the country again ? 2759 Wri//elf AlfSwers MARCH 11, 1968 Wrim" Alfswers 2760

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ha\e, however, been financially assist- MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY ing the Stales to cnrry out anti-beggary PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- measures. LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY): (a) 1lhe total number of medical gradu- (c) The Department of Social Wel- ates produced in the country during the fare have not given any such grants. Second and Third Plan periods is given ( d) Does not arise. below year-wise :- Second PImz ~~ ¥ ~ ~~ IliT 1957 2802 ~~. 1958 2859 1959 3119 3433. >-1) ~ "r.n : ~ 1960 3389 ~ ~ ~ i"TI 1961 3900 +iVi71M ~

BEGGARS ~ "i~~ : ('fi") 62.50 '1l'lr l;'Tlf ~. I 3432. SHRI M. S. MURTI : Will the Minister of SOCIAL WELFARE be (Il) M~ ~ 'f.T ~ I pleased. to state : (i) ~~ (a) the number of beggars at present in the country, State-wise; ~;;r ~ ll'f.T7 it 19'

~-;;r Iffu'nfiffaff ~ r.ru: aRr- .~ 3Th:: ~ eTmrfi ~ ~ 29.75;;mr ~ 'foT ~ it; fifflre' ifiPf fcriilm;r ~ I nrr-r I. no

Lool' AND V ASECTOM Y OPERATIONS 1 tomy cases whioh were acci~hed ~ 0R'r-fT 0 . -I () during the year 1967 and the percen&ege where they proved defective State-wise; 2. ~i~~~ and em ~i;~ (b) how far such practices have been ~ 0.10 followed by such sections of the Indian society which practise polygamy? 3. ~ ~ ami ~ ~~rr THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH. m;ft 3Th:: 3l1I1m' W QT FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN ~~~~it~ DEVELOPMENT (DR. S. CHANDRA- ~~~ 1.10 SEKHAR): (a) On the basis of the re- ports received upto 2-3-1968, fbe num- 4. ~~rr ber of loop inlertions Rnd steri1ization dt.f ~i ~ ~ operations performed durin, 1967 were 7.23 million and 1.53 million res- ~~rr.rt 0.40 pecth-ely. 2763 Written Answers MARCH 11. 1968 W,;lIell Answers 2764

On the basis of the studies under- PuRCHASING SCHEMES taken on about one lakh women who had IUCD inserted. it was found that 3436. SHRI S. R. DAMAN I : Will about 50% of the acceptors did not the Minister of WORKS. HOUSING have any complaint whatsoever. 24.5% AND SUPPLY be pleased to state : of the complaints were on account of bleeding, followed by psychological com- (a) whether Government ha\'C work- plaints which accounted for nearly 16%. ed out any purchasing scheme for No serious complaints as a resl.!lt of machine tools, Electrical Machinery. vasectomy operation have been report- Hosiery. Shoes, Textiles, Food products ed. and Paper to help the industry to get over the recession; and (b) Statistical data regarding the loop insertions and sterilization operations (b) if so, the main features thereof! ure not maintained community-wise. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUS- ING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL SAINIK SAMACHAll SINGH) : (a) and (b). There is DO re- cession generally in respect of most of 3435. SHRI P. VISWAMBHARAN: thesc industries. However, in order to SHRI MANGALATHUMA- assist the Engincering Industry, the DAM: Government have advised the major indenting Departments to plan their re- Will the Minister of WORKS, HOUS- quirements of engineering goods in ad- ING AND SUPPLY be pleased to vance and to place bulk indents to en- state: able orders being placed for utilisation cf the capacity of the Industry to the maximum possible extent. (a) the name of the Press where the Sainik Samachar Weekly is being print- ed; SUNLIGHT COLONY, Mon BAGH, NEW DELHI (b) the teems on which the printing is cnlrsuted to lIhat press; and 3437. SHRI Y. A. PRASAD: Will the Minister of WORKS, HOUSING (c) the reasons for not printing the AND SUPPLY be pleased to refer to ~ii Samachar in one of the Govern- tbe reply given to Unstarred Question ment Presses? No. 3465-0 on the 7th December, 1967 regarding the Sunlight Colony, Mati THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN Bagh, New Delhi and state : THE MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUS- ING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL (a) whether the appeal has since SINGH): (a) S/Shri Union Printers been filed in the Supreme Court; Cooperative Industrial Society Limited, (b) if not, whether it has become New Delhi. time-barred; and

(b) The terms of the contract arc ( c) whether the plot-holders have given in the Statement laid on the table been permitted to proceed with their of the House. [Placed in Library. See house-building schemes ? No. LT-416/68J. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUS- (c) Government of India Presses are ING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL at present not adequately equipped to SINGH): (a) No. undertake printing of the journal in aU (b) No. the nine languages in which it is publish- ed simultaneously. (c) Does not arise. 2765 W,ilten ~ PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Writtell ~r 2766-

~r liwf ft"fT mr Ql' ('Iff ~i mi) : ('fo) 'iff. ~t I ~ 3438. '1'1- .r~ r~ : 'RT ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 'for 'fo'1T rn fir. : arfi:mfuiT if 6 1968 ~ ~~ ;;r;rcrr ~.r If ('fo) ~ l{ ~ ~~~~; WR ~ ~ ~ 4'RtT if; 'mI" {t ~ ~ ~ q;: ~ 11I1fi'f ~ 1200 'RT ~ ~ ~ (If) 'foroITiiT m:r crr~~ 3fTlI"-'R IT 7ifr t am: ~ *t ~ '17: wift ~r I ~~ ~ if,T 3441. '1'[ B'III" ~ iW~ : 'RT" ml< ~ or"tT mifil7: ~ 'mI" ~ ~ ~ ~ lfr. ~ FIT R; : itit~.r~

~ ~ ~ 1flI" 9,844 ~ Bank made eritical remarks about deve- ~r ~ loping countries in general and India in I particular during his speech at the (zr ) f;;rn- ~;r. lfIitt ( ~ ) ~ UNCTAD; and .fAT ~ tm ~ ~ ~ it ft:rrr (b) if so, the reaction of lhe Indian t~~:~; Delegation ? .;m I ~ if.t ~ ~ if.t >IT THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER ~~ AND MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (u) and (b). There were some references to SMUGOLING BETWEEN CEYLON AND the progress, in particular. of India's MADIlAS economic development. in the speech made by Mr. George Woods, President 3442. SHRI RABI RAY : Will the of the World Bank, to the UNCTAD. ]\Iinister of FINANCE be pleased 10 On his attention being drawn to sub- ·state : stantial progress made by India in (a) whether his attention has been various fields of development, he has drawn to a news-report published in amended the passage for incorporation .the 'Hindusla" SIc;ndard' (Calcutta dated in the official record of the UNCTAD . the 8th February, 1968) that a regular The original passage and the amended racket is being efficiently managed by a passage arc given below well-<>rganized agency employing son girls for smuggling purposes between Original Text Ceylon and Madras; and "We must be frank to say that in (b) if so, what action has heen taken many parts of the world. the situation by Government to unearth thi; racket is discouraging, even disturblUg. Her.: with details thereof ? in our host country, the home of onc- seventh of all the human race, after 20 THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER years of independence many millions of AND MINISTER OF FINANCE people have yet to experience more than (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) the feeblest manifestations of progreS'o 'Yes, Sir. Those who ~iee as I do that India is engaged in a task of deep mC.Jning for (b) As far as the Government are all the developing countries. must he aware, there is no organised smuggling gravely concerned by the uncertaintIc' .of sarees from India to Ceylon nor of that cloud her national life. India is an gems from Ceylon to India by passen- exceptionally dramatic case because of gers travelling between the two count- its size and its location on the troubled ries. Nevertheless the Customs officers Asian continent; but it is by no means are vigilant in this regard. the only country where hope has dwind- led towards despondency." UNCTAD Amended TexI 3443. SHRIMATI SUSHILA "We must be frank to say that in ROHATGI : many parts of the world, the Situation is SHRI R. S. VIDYARTHI discouraging, even disturbing. Here in SHRI KANWAR LAL our host country, the home of one- GUPTA: seventh of all the human raCl:, in the SHRI SRADHAKAR 20 years of independence substantial SUPAKAR: advances have been made in alle\'iating Will the Minister of FINANCE be illiteracy, hunger, illness and want, but 'Pleased to state : the tasks that remain are staggering in their size and complexity. Those who (a) wbether it is a fact that Mr. believe as I do that India is engaged in >George Woods, President of tb~ World a labour of deep meaning for all the 2769 Writ/ell Allswers PHALGUNA 21. 1889 (SAKA) Written Answers 2770·

developing countries must be gravely THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER concerned by the uncertainties that AND MINISTER OF FINANCE cloud her national life. India is an ex- (SHRI MORARJI DESAI) : (a) ceptionally dramatic case because of its and (b). As a decision OD the Dumber size and its location on the troubled of coins to be minted has not yet been Asian continent; but it is by DO means taken the actual requirement of metalS the only country where growth needs to cannot be assessed at this 6taae. How- be much faster if hope is not to dwindle ever. it is the intention La issue a com towards despondency." of about 16 grams we.igllt in an alloy of 80% Silver and 20% Copper.

TRIBAL AR.EAS OF TRIPlJRA (c) It is expected that the require- 3444. SHRI E. K. NAYANAR : Will ments of metals for these coins will be the Minister of SOCIAL WELFARE be met from Government stocks. pleased to state : (d) Does not arise. (a) whether the Central Government propose to declare the tribal dominated areas of Tripura as 'Scheduled Areas' under the provisions of the Fifth Sche- dule of the Indian Constituuon; (b) if w. when; and

(C) if no. the reasons therefor? 3446. ~. ~ :~~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ~ ~ ;r;:rf.t '!fr ~ rn ~ : THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRIMATI PHULRENU ( 'I\" ) om ~ w;r ~ f'l\" '!"rot" ~ flmiT GUHA): (a) No. 'JV:lIiT ifOT, ;;IT ~ ~ 1962 ~ ~ (b) not arise. Does 1 9 6 7 ~ ;tt a-~ if SJ'TC(f r! q-. (c) No part of any Union Territory :r

1967 ~ if; ~ lfl!iT 1{ 1I'rof ~ i~~i;~~~ ir~~~i;~~~ ~ i!lTu ~ ~ ~:- ~ it~~~ 1.1·1968

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smr)or;rr'!i['!f 1.748.521.174.86 826.49 922.03 ~-rr;rr 2. 1 33. 69 1,925. 77 1,642.21 491.48

3,882.21 :1,100.63 2,468.70 1,413.51

~ ~ "\" amrr ~ arra'ifO ~ ~ ~ 1966 am: 1967 # ~ ~~. ~ ~~ '1<: ~ tTit tJ ,,1<: ~ ~ # i;~~~~~~ f.fifOrfir"lt 3 1- 1 2- I 9 6 7 ~ ';I;U ;:rtf Q:T ~ ~ wm it: 'lI[OTl if; ~~ ~t cr~tt~~tt~ ~ ~i ~ ~ atl .. ~ ... "~a "'1! ~ ~-i ~ ~ ....=t mt ft:!; f.nrtfur 1!iI' ~ ~ I a. m ~ f;nrlfur ~ ~ ~ 2773 Writtell AIISwers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Wrillt!1I AIISwers 2774

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~~~a: ~i~: ~ 58.50 18.23 40.27 lIflf ~~~; ~ 297.97 256.26 41.71 ~ ~~ 303.75 253·58 50·17 W...ilf

660.22 528.07 132. 15

AssISTANCE. FOIL FLOOD AFI'ECIED (b) how it compares with the rise in AREAS OF ORISSA the index of wholesale prices in 1965 and 1966: and 3447. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- (c) the steps which have been GRAHl Will the Minister of tal:en to arrest the rise in the prices of essen- FINANCE be pleased to state : tial commodities? the rile in the Index of the whOle- 111 recent montals prices in genCl'lllllave· sale pric:a during ~ witllltllled a noticeable decHne. 2777 Written An..wers PHALGUNA 21. 1889 (SAKA) it. Wri/tcl/ AlI61m'S 2778

Fl!RnLlZI!R FACTORY, KOTA Aiai\' ~ ~"ti 1Iit mt if; 3449. SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA: firrr ~ ar.m- ~ ~ ~ : WiD the Minister of PETROLEUM A..'ID CHEMICALS be pleased to state : ('if) Ifln' ti~ if; anNaT ~~ (a) whether it is a fact that a fertili- ~ ~-c if; m if ~ mc- zer factory is being set up at KOla. fi:r.if;e ~ ~ ;f-f;f ~ IR ~ WELFARE (SHRJ RAGHU RAMAIAH): (a) Yes, Sir. 3fi'IT'C ~ ;;Wr g 31T< ~ ~ ~ (b) State Government have provided if, mro ~ ~~ if; ~ if; land, Power and water required for the ii~i;i-~~-r~r factory. The Central Government have rrovided facilities for Railway sidings. Itil" "1SlIT !flIT ~ f:lrr% ~i ~ ~ No grants have been given for setting 'flIT ~ ~ ~ ffi ~ t.. ? lip the factory either by State Govern- ment or Central Government. ~-ir anm; f(1fT ~ ~ " (e) to (e). Mis. Shriram Fertilizer ';J'Ii-'f;;r; ~; ~~ ;~ : (1f ~ 3450. '''1 ~ .~ar : rn f.r1:Ifvr, t .p, .j¥li'tUI'!'¥I .~ I 'fliifil; 'UlI'- :mtT.'f i'f1fT t:i;;lf ~ amf.t Itil" '[o'n 'fflf P"f'!'¥t" it; ~ f.muT if ~~ ~ ~ ~ fiI;: ornn:

~;t~~ am: ~ ~~ ALLOTMENT POa MEDIUM IIuuGATION ScHEMES ;;niffl' (ft 4 0 5 fq oq i 'PiH ~;ti ~ ~ ~ W 'fTft if,T anctz;r ~ 3452. SHRI KAMESHWAR SINGH: SHRI A. SREEDHARAN : ~~ ~~ ('j1f, ~" ~ ~ fifilfT ~ ~ ~ Will the Minister of IRRIGATION >rTW, sffitm it. AND POWER be pleased to state : 'Il:r ro URBAN DEVELOPMENT be pleased t~it.~~~~~; to state: am: (a) whether it has been decided by Delhi Adminislration to shift fruit QJld (v) .:~ 'IT ~ w ~ vegetable market from Subzimandi, Delhi to Azadpur. f.r!;<:rr CNT ~r. ~ ~ ~ w ~ l!iT lI

(b) It is very difficult to indicate as completed and it was found that DO ac- the Scheme is yet to be proposed and tion was called for against auy of tbe 'finalised. ~erir staff. Enquiries are pend- ing in the remaining two (c) The matter is still under consider- cases. -ation of 1Ihe Government. There were about 42 other demands 'Nhich were to be discussed. DEMONSTRATION BY DESU WORKERS

3454.SHRI P. RAMAMURTI The Union also served a notice for a SHRI SATYA NARAIN general strike to commence from 29th SINGH: February, 1968. The matter was talten up in conciliation and, in terms of the Will the Minister of IRRIGATION settlement arrived at between the Union AND be pleased to state : POWER and the management before the Conci- (a) whether it is a fact that the em· liation Officer, the strike notice bas been 'ployees of the Delhi Electricity Under- withdrawn, The various demands ex- 'takings demonstrated before the OffiCe cepting the demands relating to the ro- ·of the General Manager on the 6th i~tateet of a clerk who was dismis· February, 1968; sed in December, 1967, are to be dis· ;:uS!.ed between the Union and tbe (b) is so, what are their demands; management. It has also been settled .and before the Conciliation Officer that, in the event of no agreement being reach- (e) the steps taken by Government ed between the Union and the manage. ·to settle the dispute ? ment by 15th March, 1968, the matter will be processed further in concilia- lion. THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO): (a) to (c). The Delhi State Electricity 'Workers' Union staged a demonstration RESETTLEMENT OF JHllGGI JHOPRt in front of the residence of the General DWELLERS Manager of tlbe Delhi EleCtric Supply Undertaking on 6th February, 1968. 3455. SHRI SITARAM KESRJ: 1beir demands were that the agreed de. WiD the Minister of HEALTH, nJaDds of the Union should be imple· FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN m ... nted, the other demands should be DEVELOPMENT be plc,lsed to state: settled by mutual negotiations and action should be taken against sueh officer, (a) whether it is a fact that the who had misbehaved with their subordi· Ihuggi.,Jhopri dwellers evicted from nate sta1f. (he slums of Delhi ha\'e been allotled 25 sq. yds. of land each as an interim Out of the 28 demands which had measure; been accepted. by the management. 21 'have been implemented and 7 arc at (b) if so, the plan for the perma· various stages of implementation. The IIent settlement of these people: Union had claimed that 10 more de· mands had been accepted by the manage· (c) whether it i~ also a fact ~hat JDeDt. Out of these 10 demands, which new slums have been created in the were considered by the management. 3 :1 reas where these people have heen demands have been accepted, onc de· rc,ettleJ; and mand partially accepted and the re- "maining six have not been accepted by ( J) whether GoverMlent propose the management. The management had to provide civic amenities in these received 11 complaints containing alle- arcas and to prepare proper layouts for gations of misbehaviour etc., by offi· the rehabilitation of tbese people in -een. In nine cases, the enquiries were future? 2783 Writtell Allswers MARCH II, 1968 Written Aruwt'l's 2784:

THE DEPUTY MINISI'ER IN :Tfu i!fr ~~ i!fr ~; squatters in due course. ~- (ci No. (d) Necessary civic amenities have (IT) m- ~ (f! ~ 'fl.fT

INCOME-TAX DUE FROM FILM PEOPLF i!l'fT "f:qr ~~ ~ if; ~ if 34S6. SHRI JUGAL MONDAIL: ~ ~.r~ if; m"4 fCRR f

IfL"lf smr" ~~"" ~" ~ IMMORAL TRAFFIC IN WOMEN IN nrl ~ fri 'imrTmf DELHI

3457. ~~~ ~~:: 3451:1. SHRI K. L. LAKKAPPA: ~~~~~irr Will the Minister of SOCIAL WEL- FARE be pleased to state: ~ : (a) the steps taken by the Govern- (iii) W III " ~ Ai ~ m ~ ment to check immoral traffic in wOmen ~~i;i;~~i- in Delbi; /:2785 Writ/ell Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKKJtAT) --"~tbii"~i~

(b) whether any special agency has THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER been appointed to collect information AND MINISTER OF FINANCE and to trap them; (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and (b) A statement showing the prices of (c) whether Government have taken the items for which information is avail- steps to introduce women police squad able as at tbe beginning of Janu- to check the immoral traffic; and ary, 1968 and the beginning of Febru- ary, 1968 in Delhi is laid on the Table ( d) if so, the result thereof ? of the House. [Placed in Librarv. See No. LT--417/68J. Items showing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN price increase included bread and THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL pulses. On the other hand, prices of WELFARE (SHRIMATI PHULRENU eggs, pure gbee and spices declined GUHA) : (a) The Suppression of Im- while those of cigarettes, fish and milk mOfoll Traffic in Women and Girls Act, remained unchanged. In the case of 1956, is in force in the Union Terri- fruits and dry fruits while a few items t(lry of DeLhi since 1st May, 1958. showed a rise. others showed either a decline or remained stationary. (b) All the Sub-Divisional Officers and Deputy eritedet~ (Police) of (c) There has not been a general spurt the Crime Branch of Delhi C.l.D. have in prices. been notified as Special Police Officers (d) Does not arise. in terms of Section 13 of the Act in which capacity they take action in the ·malters. qrf"'UAT ~ Irnqn:!

(C) and (d). Women PoliCe Force :1460. 1IoT! ;r~" ~: !flIT ~ already exists in Delhi and its services ;:-ir~~ir~i: arc availed of in connection with the enforcement of the Act, whenever neces- ('fi) !flIT ~ ~ ~ f'fi 29 'f.71fU, ·sar1'. ] 968 'fiT ~ !:fill" ~i q;:: ~ '1lfr ;¢ m' vff; >fIT to state : ( if ) 'Z"-r -r;:'i'lJ ~~ ~ ifq-r (a) whether the prices of cigarettes, li fish, meat, bread, eggs, pure ghee, i~ '!fr ~ ? cheese, pulses, dry fruits, spices, fruits and milk had risen in the Capital (Delhi ~-~ ..n;r qf <"1fT ~ "lilT ( lilT and New Delhi) on the eve of the ~~ tmt) : ('fi) .,-r, ill I UNCTAD Conference; (b) what were the prices of each of (Ii") ~i ~ if'U11{ '!fr 'these items at the beginning of J anu- 1J'!ft:- ary, 1968 and at the beginning of Feb- ruary, 1968, in Delhi and what was the (i) ;ftif li ;rft, 2695 ~i ,overall percentage of increase in the ~.rrr ],88,250 prices of these items; ~ (c) tbe main reasons for this spurt in prices; and (ii) ~ li if;ft 180 m ~rr"~:;;r (d) the steps since taken to bring . down the price le\-el ? urn I 2787 Wriltell' A/rswers MARCH ll, 1968 Written A;uwrs 2788

(iii) ~ li ~ 150 m 'ltIft'Gr Of q f.nlllm!ftnml ~ iii 1 ~ ii;r~ I 3462. "~~ ~: (iv) ;ft;:r li oR 125 m ~ iii ~ .m:.m: ~ ~ ~ 1 ~ ml

(v) fR;r li ;f.r, 800 ~ (Of;) i~;:r~ A; ~~ ~ii ~ I ~rit~~~~ (vi) ~ ~ "# 10.15 ..lwmi1fi ~ ~ ~ ': ~ ': ri'; 31'1<: (vii) ~ ~ 1l 188. 69 ~ ~ :~~~~"~ 'liT 'flIT ~ ~ 'liT fcr.m: ~ if ~ -~ ~ <'111ft W-fT ~ I ~ .~~ ~ ~ OfIfUtf mm ~ if ";-~ ..n <1"0 ~ ( 11 ) q'fo"it 'f1fT cmrt 3r': ;ofT 'f1fT ~. I 1!,m): am: ~ fit ~ ~ ~ ann ',fr ~ "~ 3I1Ifufem mcU i;~ ~;:r ~ ~ ~ 'f'W ~~"~~~~ lR if. f'iQ; ~~--:~~i; q7 ~~ir.~iW~~~~ -ry:m "R'f.TT imJ f': ri' I ~ ~" ~ ~ fi1;1n "IT ~ t T ~ ~ A; : .mmn mt) : (lWi) ;;ft, Oft\' I ('if» IfI:IT ~ 'liT f.r;m: ~ (w) ~ (IT). ~i.r ~ Oft\' ~ ~ tr'IT fit'Qvr armr, 1968 1l, iml ~it; 2789 Wrlttm Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Written Answers 2790

(.. ) lift ~ crt ~ ~"" the Iiceused c1eariDg agents at Cochin 'l'lIT ~; Port attemptod to defraud the Customs Department to the tune of a few Iboa- (fJ') ~W~~ sands of rupees by filing aD appeal, sup- ported by fake documents, for Il tIhort- ~" aJ'lr ~"~ (f1fT "',"JT ~ landing refund claim; and ;f;nOl'lf f{ m:f ql ("'I ~~r : (b) if 50, the reasons why the clear- ( ~ 3lWU ~ (SRW'!" ~ fir.rnIIT ) ing agency licence of the firm Will not cancelled by the Customs Authorities armr 1966, '# ~a" rn ~ ~ in spite of the fact that the fraud Will ~ frrvTzr ~ f are available in him. held on 2-11-196J that the claim all regional languages. The C.orpora- had h<'Cn received by the Custom House tion has also cot the Terms and Condi- on Iv on 30-10-1962. Consequently, he iei~ tra~ated t ions of in all region- upheld the order of rejection of the al languages, to be sent along with the claim. Policy document in English, to such ret~ as fill in the proposal form (h) The licence issued in the name of in a regional language. tl,e clerk concerned for transacting busi- ness in the Custom House was cancel- CLEARING AGENTS AT CocHIN PORT led. Enquirie.

OIL IN JA¥Mv (v) lift tlt, efT iflIT ~ ~ ~ 3466. SHRI MAHARAJ SINGH r~ fi<:: ~ if BHARATI: Will tJhe Minister of PET- ~ ~. ~ oplft ro ~ RoLEuM AND CHEMICALS be ~ fcr;m:t? pleased to state : (a) the' number of oil resen.-es struck \J1f-SnT;;f fief l'q'T ~ fiC!{r (151'1 in Jammu and Kashmir, . ~~.~ : (if.) ~~~~ Bihar, Tripura, Madras, Andhra Pradesh if; ar~ if; ~ if ~ "l"'J'T ~ srfumf and Kutch as a result of a geological survey conducted in these states and the ~ ~ 3W1)or;rr 'T ~ if; action being taken for their exploitation; 88, rri;~~~ 1966-67 and if 98, 8 lfRrn<:f ~ tf'llT, ~ ~r (b) the number of oil wells, Gas ~i if;

(b) Up to the end of January 1968. 3468. 151'1 "",it;lI: 1fT : ~ m.tf the number of wells drilled in the above States is as under am ~ ~ lW; or:Wt '1>1 ~ rn No. (If wells f'l> : Jammu & Kashmir nil ~ ~ 'l"'f ~ ~ U.P. 3" ('I» f'l> 'rf1 Tripura nil ~ if; ~ 'r. ~ ~~ ~ 'iT Madras 5" "fT'!'R if; ~~ if ~ -;r-~ Andhra Pradesh nil Bihar 2" qfu')or;rr 3fW'll of.r 'iTT ~ ~; 3fT<: Kutch nil ('i') t~ CIT sWt f.nriur-ifiW ii' ~ ~ ~ ~ ~i <{q'T 3fNfq lfltfu ~; <{q'T fll'f!i'T fi;ft ~r ~ ~ 3467. 151'1 ~r ~ ""mit ~ : ('I» am: ('i'). q-;r ~ ~ ~ flftl' l'jefi lff; or:Wt 'T ~ fl!; : rn .q 5- 5 41J'l'qR; if; ;m ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ !f'if ~ ~ti ~ ~ ;;ntT'l'f ~ ~~ mr: ~ I f,"!o ~ !f'if ~ lft;;r;rr ~ ~ ~ ~ 'liT ~ IIIiT 'I>fIf !:Prfu 'Ii<: ~ ~ cffiT 1(111') am: ~ ~ 'liT ~ I ~ ~ fl!; ~ ~ 1968-69.q ~~~~~a:~t ~ 'Ii<: ~::;rr am: !!Til' ~ ~~~rt~; am: 1969-70.q 1 '-all wells proved dry. **4 W61ls h ave been tested and found to be dry, one well is yet to be tested, 2793 Written Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Written Answers 2794

DEFICIT FINANCING have been supplied. The remaining re- commendations are under considera- 3469. SHRI C. K. CHAKRAPANI tion. SHRIBHAGABANDAS: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU INCOME-TAX AND WEALTH-TAX DE- SHRI P. GOPALAN : FAULTERS IN OIUSSA 3471. SHRI C. K. CHAKRAPANJ Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : SHRI MOHAMMAD IS- MAll.. : (a) whether Government's attention bas been drawn to the article in the SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : 'Statesman' (Calcutta Edition) caption- SHRI K. M. ABRAHAM : ed "Rs. 450 crores Budget Deficit likely"; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to refer to the reply given to (b) whether the subject matter of the Unstarred Question No. 5253 on the article was given by Government; and 21st December. 1967 and state : (c) if so, under what circumstances? (a) whether the information regard- lHE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER ing the number of defaulters for the AND MINISTER OF FINANCE payment of Income-Tax and Wealth- (SHRl MORARJI DPSAI) : (a) Tax in Orissa has since been collected; Ye<;, Sir. and (b) No, Sir. (b) if so, the details thereof? ( c) Does not arise. THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISrER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE SYMPOSIUM ON CoNSTRUCTION (SHRI MORARJI DPSAl): (a) COSTS Yes, Sir. 3470. SHRI C. K. CHAKRAPANI (b) As per annexure laid on the Table SHRI GANESH GHOSH : of the House [PluCt'J in Library. See No. LT-418/68] SHRI E. K. NAYANAR : SHRI P. GOPALAN : ASSESSMENT Of' EsTATE DUTY OF Will the Minister of WORKS, HOUS- MANNARGHAT MooPPIL STHANOM ING AND SUPPLY be pleased 10 refer EsTATE, KEJlALA to the reply given to Unstarred Question 3472. SHRI C. K. CHAKRAPANI No. 5201 on the 21st December, 1961 and state: SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : (a) whether Go\'Cmment have since SHRI K. M. ABRAHAM considered the recommendations made SHRlMATI SUSEELA by the seminar on construction costs GOPALAN : held at New Delhi in August. 1967; and Will the Minister of FINANCE he pleased to refer to the reply given to (b) if so, the decision taken there- Unstarred Question No. 8819 on the on? ) Oth August, 1967 and state : THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN (a) whether in the light of complaints THE MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUS- of evasion, enquiries have been com- ING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL pleted regarding the auessment of the SINGH) :

'Om DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER possibility of organisational chaqes in AND MINISTER OF FINANCE tbe public sector fertilizer units one (SHRI MORARII DESAI) : (n) American expert was taken; and Enquiries in the light of complaints of (b) if so, reasons therefor ? evasion are in progress and the Estate Duty assessment is still pending. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (b) Does not arise. AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL RI!C1UITMEST 11'00 PuBLIC SECTGR WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH) : (a) and (b). Four Ame- 3473. SHRI B. K. MODAK : rican experts from Tennessee Valley SHRI SATYA NARAIN Authority were included in the team ap- SINGH: pointed to examine the organisation, structure etc. of Public Sector Fertilizer SHRI K. RAMANI : Corporations. These experts were in- SHRIMATI SUSEELA cluded because TVA, a Publie Enter- GOPALAN: prise in USA, have considerable exper- tise in the fertilizer field and inclusion Will the Minister of FINANCE be of the experts in the team was consider- pleased to refer to the reply given to ed advantageous. Ull8tarred Question No. 5337 on thc 21st December, 1967 and state: OiL .... ND GAS IN DIAMOND HARBOUR: (a) whether the information regarding recruitment in public sector undertak- 3475. SHRI B. K. MODAK ings during 1%4-65 has since been col- SHRI MOHAMMAD lected; and ISMAIL : (b) if so. what are the main point> ? SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU TIlE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER SHRI GANESH GHOSH : AND MINISTER OF FINANCE Will the Minister of PETf-OLEUM (SHill MORARJI DESAI) : (a) AND CHEMICALS he pleased to and (b). Information has been received state : ~ far in respeCt of 52 enterprises. Dur- ing 1964-65 these enterprises recruited (a) the re~ of drilling for oil and 22,597 employees; out of this 4,984 ga, in Sadar and Diamond Harhours were recruited through Employment Ex- ~h-i i,ions of 24 Parganas in West changes, while 348 came on lien from Bengal: Government Establishments. (b) the quantity of oil and gas reserve Information in rl!Spcct of the rcr.lain- expected: and ing enterprisc> is being collected and (c) employment ~ibiitie ? will be placed on the Table of the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM CoMMITTEE TO ExAMINE THE OR- AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL G\NlSAnONAL CHANGES IN FERTILIZER WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU UNITS RAMAJAH): (a) Drilling of BOlira 3474. SHRI B. K. MODAK WeIl No. 1 has not been completed and hence the result of drillinl: callnot SHRI MOHAMMAD be indicated at this stage. ISMAIL : (b) and (e). Do not arise at present. SHRI K. RAMANI : TREATMENT OF MAL-NoURlSHI!D Will the Minister of PETROLEUM PERsoNS AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: 3476. SHRI NITlRAJ SINGH (a) whether it is a fact that in the CHAUDHARY: Will the Minister of Coounittee appointed to examine the HEALTIl, FAMn.Y PLANNING AND 2797 Written Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Written Answers 279&

URBAN DEVELOPMENT be pleased of the country was fOUDd to brin, about to state : rapid recovery when gh-en in suitable combinations. (a) whether the Doctors of All India I nstitute of Medical Sciences. New M.Ps· FLATS Delhi while at Hazaribagh to treat cases 3477. SHRI ~ SINGH of mal-nutrition with the help of radio CHAUDHARY: Will the Minister of isotopes collected data ~eati t'? ~ WORKS, HOUSING AND SUPPLY composition and absorptive functions In be pleased to state : malnourished persons; and (a) whether Government's attention (b) if so, the details thereof ? has been drawn to an snide appearing in January, 1968 issue of magazine THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 'Mother India' regarding the conditions l\lINISfRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY of M.Ps· fiats and furniture; and PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY): (b) if so, Government's reactioD (a) and (bl. A team of medical specia- thereto? lislq frOrill the All India Institute of I\ledical Sciences. worked in the Hazari- THE DEPUTY MINISTER iN hagh di~trict of Bihar in the summer of THE MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUS- 1%7 to render help in the treatment and ING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL rchabilihtion of famine-affected persons. SINGH): (a) c-~. I n the course of their work they also (b) No doubt some of the accommo- made some research studies regarding dation provided to M.Ps may be old the cauS<.'S of anaemia, nature of swell- but the accommodation provided to ing of ""dl' of the patients. the extent M.Ps in North and South Avenues, waS to which they were able to digest and constructcu only about 15 ear~ hack :I"imilak food material and the manner and that in Vithal Bhai Patel House in which the composition of their body "a~ constructcd very rccently. Some of \'.:IS altcrffi hy under-nutrition. Some the furniture anu electrical appliances of the Important ohservations made hy mav also be old and as and when it is them cLI'c' the following : fou'nd necessary these are replaced. As (i) S"clling of the body in some per- regards maintenance of gardens etc., "lOS and extreme wasting in others were there is a separate Division for looking 1'1 equent manifestations of under-nutri- after this. Complaints received from t;110 wh;.:h affected hoth children and indi\idual M.Ps, are, also promptly :Ilfuits. attended to. (ii) Anaemia was common which Moreover. there are House Com- \I as dti ... to ucficicncy of iron. vitamin mittees of the Parliament which look 11-12 arui folic aciu. after the requirement of all the Mcm- her~ of Parliament and facilities like (iii) Tuberculosis of the lungs wa s furniture and electrical appliaoces etc., fn:queot among the famine victims. are provided in consultation with these (iv) Infection of the bowel with Committees. parasites a~ also widely prevalent but :Ihsorptive functions of the bowels were ESGINEERING GIlADUATES POR INDIAN reasonably well maintained. OIL CoRPORATION (v) Feed.ing experiments showed that 3478. SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH t he affected persons could be treated CHAUDHARY: Will the Minillter of satisfactorily by providing them a diet PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be- wbich supplied approximately 3000 pleased to state : calories per day and about 70 !7olms of protein. Simple inexpensive food mate- (a) the number of Eogineerinll Gra- rial in the form of cereals. millets and duates who applied for emplovment iIr pulses which are foods familiar to the the during- local people and grown in variou\ parts 1967; 2799 Wrillell Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Writtell Answer.. 2800

(b) the number of engineers em- years and the physical targets achieved ployed so far; during the Third Five Year Plan on the Tribal welfare programmes in Orissa, (c) the number of applicants who Madhya Pradesh and Bihar, is laid on were Honours Graduates of I.I.Ts. and the Tahle of the House [Placed in how many of them were not called even Library. See No. LT--419/68]. for interview; and (d) the criteria for selecting for ALL INDIA IRRIGATION COMMISSION interview? 3481. SHRI RABI RAY : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRI YASHPAL SINGH: THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL AND POWER be pleased to state : WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH) : (a) to (d). The required (a) whether Government have decid- information is being collected and will ed to set up an All India Irrigation be laid on the Table of the House in Commission; due course. (b) if so, the purpose of thi, Com- mission; and ADI,VASI ADVISORY BOARD, ORISSA ( c) the details thereof ? 3479. SHRI RABI RAY : Will the THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Minister of SOCIAL WELFARE he AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO): (a) pleased to state : Yes, Sir. (a) whether Government·s attention (b) and (c). A statement indicating has .been drawn to the resignation of a the terms of reference propo&ed for member of Adivasi Advisory Board of the Commission is laid on the Table of . Orissa on the question of relaxation of the House (Placed in Library. See No. prohibition by the Orissa Government LT-420/68] ·and its impact on the Adivasis there: and BURMAH SHELL REFINERY, MAHARASHTRA (b) if so, Government's reaction there- to ? 3482. SHRI D. R. PARMAR: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRI R. K. AMIN : THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SHRI P. N. SOLANKI : WELFARE (SHRIMATI PHCLRENU SHRI RAMCHANDRA J. 'GUHA) : (a) It has been reported that AMIN: one of the non-tribal memhers has re- signed on this issue. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (b) The matter concern, thc Slate AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: ·Government. (a) whether it is a fact that the Dur- m8lh Shell refinery in Mahara~htra pro- ADrvASI,S IN ORIsSA, MADHYA .~ poses to expand its activities by obtain- AND BmAR ing the surplus oil from Gujarat State; and 3480. SHRI RABI RAY : Will the Minister of SOCIAL WELFARE he (b) whether Government have receiv- pleased to state the steps taken t(l raise ed any representation from the Govern- ment the social and economic status of Adi- of Gujamt not to permit its ex- vasis in Orissa, Madhya Pradesh and pansion ? Bihar during the last two years ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLJruM AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRIMATI PHULRENU WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH): (a) No, Sir. .GUHA): A statement showin" the ex- penditure incurred during the last two (bj' Does not arise. 2801 Writtell Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKAl Wrillen AIlS...... 2801:

SUPPLY OF ELECTRICITY TO GlTJARAT DHUVARAM POWER STATION PROM TARAPUR 3484. SHRI D. R. PARMAR: SHRI R. K. AMIN : 3483. SHRl D. R. PARMAR SHRl P. N. SOLANKI : SHRI R. K. AMIN : SHRI RAMCHANDRA J. AMIN: SHRI P. N. SOLANKI Will the Minister of IRRIGATION SHRI RAMCHANDRA J. AND POWER be pleased to state : AMIN: (a) whether it is a fact that the ex- pansion programme of Dhuvaram Power Station in Gujarat State has been Will the Minister of IRRIGATION delayed due to lack of foreign ex- AND POWER be pleased to state : change; (b) if so. whether Government assur· (a) whether it is a fact that Govern· cd ~he Government of Gujarat of the ment of Maharashtra has agreed \0 give allocation of the neceAsary foreign ex· electricity to Gujarat from Tarapur by change; and June, 1%8; ( c) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (b) if so, whether it is also a fact AND POWER (DR. K. L. }tAO): (a) that the Government of Maharashtra to (c). The expansion programme of propose to back out from thi, agree· Dhuvaran Power Station in Gujarat ment; and State has not been delavp.d due to lack of foreign exchange. The copahility of (c) if so, the reaction of the Central indigenous manufacturers to supply the Government thereto ? required turbo-alternato.rs and boilers is being assessed. If it is decided to im· port this equipment, ~a exchaage THE MINISTER OF IRRIGAnON will be available under the Loan Agree. AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO): (a) ment already signed bet'Neen the Gov· Tarapur Atomic power station which is ernment of India and the U.S.A. owned .:md wiJI be operated by the Government of India is scheduled for 3{(''! ir~ 'H ~i~ 1!":r. commercial operation by October 1968. It is expected the power station may be 3 4 8 5. qi m,","."ar W~i: ~ operated. on trial basis from June 1968, ~ ;fctt ~ ~ !"IT ~ fiI; ; when the main switchyard which is be· Itt ing ~trcted by the Maharashtra ~ 'l'lrof ~ m-

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~ """ ~ Qi ~ ,,!o,,"o TARIFF FOR GENERAL INSURANCIl ~ : ('fo) am: ~. ~r 3493. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: ~.; ~ ~ 'l>l' ~ ~ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU: ~~~~~r SHRI P. GOPALAN: Will Ihe Minister of FINANCE be 'liT SI1i'f' '!?:T ~ ;oar, ~ n'f qfu:l"r","TT pleased to state: i~....~~~""" (a) who are the authors of the Tariff ;fr.\' ~ ~ am i'f' ~ !,.r ij' 11t"lT m .q for General Insurance in the country; 'Wfi if; ~ 'R

UNACCOl'NTED MONEY WITH FILM in formulating its rates and policies; and PEOPLE (c) whether it is done purcly on 3491. SHRI K. N. PANDEY: profil mak:ng policy basis? SHRI MAHANT DIGVIJAI NATH: THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE Will the Minister of FINANCE be (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) The pleased to refer to the reply given to Gcneral Insurance Council. through its Unstarred Question No. 864 on the Tariff Committee. regulates the tariff 16th No\'ember. 1967 and state: rates in General Insurance business, (a) whether the investigations in res- Both arc statutory bodies set up under pect of the raid conducted on the offices Ihe In,uranCe Act. 1948, of lim di'tributors in Bombay have (b) As the Act stands at prcseal, the since been completed: Government has no powers to fix or (b) if s.;}. the names of film .>tars in- alter the rates; cluded therein; and (c) Though there would be a margin (c) the action taken against them? for profits. the rates are based on the risk insured. THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE. MFI

(a) wbetber Government are conai- (b) wbether equipment is not to the dering any proposal to merge dearneSl required speci1lcations; and allowance with pay of the Central (c) if so, the action taken by Govern- Government employees; and ment thereon? (b) the detaib of the proposal; if so, THE MINISTER. OF IRRIGATION and AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO): (a) (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Government have not purchased any equipment from MIs. Tarapore &: Co. mE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER. AND MINISTER OF FINANCE, (b) and (c) Do not arise. (SHRI MORARII DESAI): (a) No, Sir. No such proposal is now under FERTn.1ZI!R PLANT, GOA consideration. 3497. SHRI KAMESHWAR SINGH: (b) Does not arise. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (c) In view of the present financial AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: stringency, it has nOlt been found pas- (a) whether it is a fact tbat the Birlas ~ibe to agree to a full or partial mer- have been given one thousand acres of ger of D.A. in pay. land in Goa to set up a Fertilizer Fac- FERTILIZER PLANT, GOA tory in spite of the objection Ilf the State Government; 3495. SHRI A. SREEDHARAN: (b) if so, the stage at which the matter SHRI KAMESHWAR SINGH: has reached; and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (c) the actual requirement of land for AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: a project of that size? (a) whether it is a fact that the various THE MINISTER OF STATE IN parties who were granted licences to let THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM up fertilizer and allied Chemical Pro- AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL ject in Goa have failed to set up the WELFARE (SHRI RAGU RAMAIAH): factory as per schedule; (a) and (b) The request of Mis. Birla (b) if so, whether the licence. have Gwalior (private) Ltd. for land for the been cancelled, and Goa fertilizer project i3 under the con- (c) if not, the action taken by Gov- sideration of the Goa Administration. ernment in the matter? (c) About 650 acres arc generally con- sidered reasonable for a project of this THE MINISTER OF SfATE IN size. But the actual requirement of a THE MINISfRY OF PETROLEUM particular project will depend on various AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL factors sucb as tbe terrain the need for WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMAI- a townsbip, provision for expansion etc. AH): (a) No, Sir. (b) and (c) Do not arise. USE OF MACHINERY AT FAllAItX.A BARllAGE PU&CHASE OF EQUIPMENT FOR FAllAItU 3498. SHRI D. N. PATODIA: BARRAGE SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: 3496: SHlU A. SREEDHARAN: SHRI PREM CHAND SHRI KAMESHWAR SINGH: VERMA: Will the Minister of IRRIGAnON Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state: AND POWER be pleased to .tate : (a) whether it is a fact that tbe equip- (a) wbether it is a fact that at the ment imported from the Soviet Union Parakka Barrage, machinery wOl¢h through MIs. Tarpore Vila of MadraS RI. 10 crorea hu been purcb8sed but bave been purchased by Government for used only upto 20 per cent of the 9pti- use at Parakka Barrase; mum capacity; L13LSS(CP)/68-5 281l Writ/en Allswers MARCH 11, 1968 Writ/ell A IIswers 2812

(b) wether it is also a fact that I.T. REFUND CASES machinery worth crores of rupee pur- chased during the last three years was 3499. SHRI HEM RAJ: Will the not put to use and repeat orders arc Minister of FINANCE be pleased to being placed; state: (a) tbe number of Income-tax cases in (c) whether it is also a fact that even which refund hl13 been claimed during though a sum of Rs. 55 lakhs wa'. spent the years 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966 for obtaining power supply, most of the and 1967 in Delhi; and work is being done by diesel pumps; (b) the number of cases which have (d) whether Government have gone been disposed of and the number of into the above question; and such cases pending with the duration of their pendency? (e) if so, what are their findings and the steps taken to have a cheek on such THE DEPUTY MINISTER AND infructuous expenditure? MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and (b) The THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION requisite information is not readily avail- AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO): (a) The able in the Ministry. The same has total cost of equipments procured/ been called for from the Commissioners ordered upto February 1968 is of the of Income-tax concerned and will be order of Rs. 10.16 crores. Different laid on the Table of the House on its equipments have been used for different receipt. items of work. Some equipments have ARREARs OF TAXES been loaned to contractors. I n a bar- rage construction different equipments 3500. SHRI HEM RAJ: Will the are used for specific periods e.g. exca- Minister of FINANCE be ea~ed to vation equipments haye to .~e used ~r state the amount of arrears of Income- the period of excavation; pIlmg equlp- tax. Expenditure-tax. Estate Duty and ments are used for the period of piling; Gift taxes to be realised for the years concreting equipments are used for the 1963 to 1967 year-wise and sta4e-wise? period of concreting. For such river THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER bed works, equipments have to be pro- AND MINISTER OF FINANCE cured to meet the peak requirements (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): The infor- and not for average requirement. mation regarding arrears of taxes is not maintained either calendar year-wise or (b) No. State-wise. The information regarding the amount of arrears of Income-tax, (c) No. Both electric 'as wen as diesel Expenditure-tax, Estate Duty and Gift pumps are being used on account ~ un- taxes to be reali:red for the financial certainty of power supply. Mis. Hmdu- years 1963-64 to 1966-67 according to stan Construction Co. a Contractor en- respective Commissioner of c~e-ta gaged on a portion of work of the Pro- charges is being collected and WIll be ject bas used mostly diesel pump., while laid on the Table of the House. another contractor viz. the National Projects Construction Corporation. is RURAL DJUNK[NO WATER SuPPLY using mostly electric pumps. As ScHEMES quantum of dewa4ering is an uncertain item arrangements of pumps is usually 3501. SHRI HEM RAJ: Will the made on certain accepted assumptions, Minister for HEAL1lI, FAMILY with provisions for stand by. PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- LOPMENT be pleased to state: (d) Does not arise. The question of (a) the amount sanctioned for the ~ the power supply has been Rural DrinJOng Water Supply Schemes brouaht to the notice of the Weat for the year 1966-67 for HImachal ~a State Electricity Boud. Pradesh; and (el Does not arise. fb) tile amount that Us bella ';'_1 2813 Writ/en An.lwers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Writlen Answers 2814

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN DEVELOP- PLANNING AND URBAN DBVE- MENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY): (a) and LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY): (b). A provision of Rs. 25,69,400 was (a) to (c). The information is being made in the budget for 1966-67 in res- conected and will be laid on the Table pect of the Himachal Pradesh Adminis- of the Sabha in due course. tration for Water Supply and Sanitation Schemes: Thc actual expenditure dur- MAJOR IaRIGAnON AND POWER ing that year was Rs. 35,17,403, exclu- PRO.JECTS sive of pro rata share of expenditure on 3504. SHRI SRADHAKAR SUPA- account of Establishment and Tools and KAR: Will the Minister of IRRIGA- Plants charges. Information in respect TION AND POWER be pleased to of rural Water Supply Schemes is not state: separately available. (a) the names of the major irrigatioQ FERTILISER FACTORY AT PARADEEP and power projects which have been held up or slowed down on account of 3502. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- financial difficulties in the country; and GRAHl: Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased (b) the dates by which these projects to ~tate: are likely to be completed? (a) whether the proposal to set up a THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION FertiIizer Factory at Paradeep has been AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO): (a) finalised; and and (b) Work on many of the major irrigation and power projects has had (b) if so, the details thereof! to be slowed down during the last two years due to paucity of funds. The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN question of allocation of additional THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM funds for the speedy completion of cer- AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL tain selected major irrigation projects WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMA- in 1968-69 is under consideration. It IAH) : (a) No, Sir. is not possible at this stage to indicate (b) Does not arise. precisely the dates by which these pro- jects are likely to be completed as the LIQUOR POISONING IN INDIA progresos depends on availability of adequate funds from year to year. 3503. SHRI K. RAMANI: However, the probable date of comple- SHRI P. P. ESTHOSE: tion of each of the major projects has been indicated in the publication SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU: "INDIA-Irrigation and Power Pr0- SHRIMATI SUSEELA GO- jects (Five Year Plans)", copies of which have already been placed in the Parlia- PALAN : ment Library. Will the Minister of HEALTH. FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN EXCISE DuTY ON YARN AND CLOTH DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 3505. DR. RANEN SEN: wm the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (a) the number of cases of liquor State: poisonings which have been taken place in the country during the last three (a) whether the Indian Cotton MIDs years; FederatioQ have urged Govemmeat to provide for substantial relief In exelse (b) the number out of them proved duty on yam and cloth to prevent fatal; and closure of milia; and (e) the step! taken to pMftDt this (b) if 10, the decision taka ill tile danaer'1 matter? MARCH 11,1968 Written An.rwr.r 2816

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTBR. centrally aided for whicb assistance on AND MINISTER OF FINANCE 60% basis is provided. The question of

DEVELOPMENT PROORAMMEs FOR 3512. ~ ,"0 51'0 ~: ~ NOMADS ","'fq, qf.. ~~ .i"~ t '" ~ 3510. SHRI D. C. SHARMA: Will ~ ~ lilt fiIrT fit; : the Minister of SOCIAL WELFARE f'fllim ".-1 rn he pleased to state : (iii) Ifln ~ !f;l' ~ ~ lilt (a) whether a separate development (NT tmIIIi iftTfrftq) ~ i~ ~ programme has been drawn up for the country's six million nomads to be im- t~~;~; am: plemented during the Fourth Five Year Plan; (V) .m ~ efT m am 'IiRVT ~. ? (b) if so, the broad details of the programme; and ~~ ~ r..~ <'" ~ (c) the amount proposed to be allo- f..rnrltor;v.q' ~ cated for the purpose? qmq It•• ' (WlO ~: i~i;~~ TIlE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL ~~~~~~i;~t;r WELFARE (SHRIMATI PHULRENU ~ GUHA) : (a> to (c). The Fourth Five Year Plan has not yet been formulated. (11) ~;:r ~e I

~ ~ q'{ ~"" ~i ~ ~ if t.~ ~ 'r''- a~i ~~ 11ft 3 5 1 3. '" ~ if'{ : ~ '" mf """" 3511. ~it 5(0 ~ : Ifln mmW : f,", ,,1 Wi~ ~ : ;i~~t ~~ fit;: tm ~ ammr

(V) Ifln ~ !f;l' fir;m: ~ f.mfur fit;Irr t ; ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ atfil'lilf<41 lilt (V) ~ \it !IPnT: 1 ~ ~~~it~~ 1968 ~ 31 1I'T't, 1968, 1 m, "" ~;~;a: ~ 30attmr, 1968am: 1 ~ 2819 Written A IIl'weTS MARCH 11, 1968 WTilUn AIIsweTS 2820

1968 ~ 31 ~ 1969 ott Offilf!:l' ~ (a) when the "Aayakar Bhawan" in fit;alt ~ctr !J;T ~r fi!;ln Calcutta for housing Income-tax Offices ~; was ccmstructed and in how many places the Income-tax Offices were housed at (if) ~ ~ ~ ~ 'fit; ~ iIfut ~ ~ ~ Aayakar Bhawan at Calcutta was com- ~~~i~~ pleted and occupied in 1961. At that lime the Income Tax Offices were ~ fii;1n GfT1J.'1T 1 located in the following building'S:

GENERAL INSURANCE I. 3. Government Place, West. 3514. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA: Will 2, 169, Lower Circular Road. the Minister of FINANCE be pleased 3. 4, Hastings Street. to state the extent to which the Life 4, 14, 16, 17 E7.ra Mansion. Insurance Corporation or any other Government agency has taken over the S, 8, Brabourne Road. work of General Insurance in addition 6. 76, Lower Circular Road Front to Life lDsurance? and Rear Blocks. THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER 7. 33, Netaji Subhash Road. AND MINISTER OF FINANCE 8. 7, Church Lane, (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): The Life Insurance Corporation of India has the 9. 8, Madan Street. monopoly of life insurance business. It 10. 2, Justice Chandra Madhab also transacts general insurance business Road. in competition with other insurers. The gross direct premium and net premium 1 I. 10, Govemment Place East. of the Life Insurance Corporation from (b) This was so when sanction for all claues of General Insurance during construction of the muItistoryed office 1966-67 amounted to Rs. 699.67 lakhs huilding was issued in July, 1955. and RI. 313.80 lakhs respectively. ( c) to rapid expansion of 'AAyAlCAlt BHAWAN', CALCUTTA Due the the lncometax Department all over 3515. SHRl BENI SHANKER India, and the large increase in the SHARMA : Will the Minister of number of tax payers particularly in FlNANCB be pleued to state: bigger cities like Calcutta and Bombay 2821 Written AIU'Wers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Written Answers ~ etc. the accommodation in the building ~ pr 1 lI"lrTamlr ~ fi!; ~ 3tfu- already constructed has become inade- quate. SinCe there was no Government ~ ;r 30 ~ 1968 I!it ~ accommodation available with the Estate ~~~t ~~ Manager, Calcutta, steps were taken to ~~c~~~ hire suitable private accommodation at Calcutta. As the rented buildings are 1,57,000 wrr ~ ~ I not sometimes constructed to suit the requirements of the offices and are also (;r) ~ 1fmI1 # ~ fif\lf '1"Ii not located in one locality of the city <'fR ~ 'fil ~ '17:: ~ rorr tm these do cause some inconvenience to ~ ~ the Department and the assessees. :.rr I amffif # ;rnf.t ;f,t ~ ~ ~ ~ '17:: ~ ;;miift I (d) A combined office building for Income-tax, Central Excise and Customs 1{31T1r i'!1fr ~~ ltiT 1Ji1'fl ~ Departments at Calcutta at Bomboo Villa site is under construction which ~ ltiT illIiT1n ~ when ready will considerably relieve the shortage of accommodation. However, 3 5 1 8. I!1T ~ii ~ 1l'iWIOl7; ro the offices would then be located at least ~~"r~;t~ri;: in two buildings i.t'. Aayakar Bhawan and Bamboo Villa which are apart from ( Iii ) ~ <'fIqT q'omr # fiI;;f-fiA each other. Having regard to the area Ifilff '17:: ~ if.t <:Tfu 3f'lf\" iflIim ~ ; allotted to the Income-tax Department in Bamboo Villa and the accommoda- (Ii) lWilii q;lf '17:: ~r iAiTI1r tion needed by the Department when -urn this new building is constructed, the ~ :~~ ... ~;;ir i;r~ rented buildings would be vacated to ~;a the extent necessary. ( l"f ) ro ~ q:;;ff ~ ~

1HE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER ~ em ~ anR II\l ~r ~ AND MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (8) Yes, ~~~; Sir. The information has since been collected and will be laid on the Table (lI") .:rT 'fll"rr'f." .-r.r-:-~ 'Pi'. ed. ~:t ~t 'f."

('1") ~ ~ ~ ~ iii ~ (b) No foreign collaboration in the sense of foreign investment is involved. ~-.rd~i ~ ~ iii ~t orwr The Plant is being designed and ~ if>"T ~-r ~ if>"T ~ ~ I engineered by the P. & D. Division of FcrtiIizer Corporation of India with the. ~ ~ ~ -if or#!" if>"T il'T assistance of an Italian firm, Montecatini "~ I Edison under a licence aBI"eement for the process and know how. Most of the FERTILIZER FACTORY AT BARAUNI foreign equipment required will be ob- 3523. SHR! SHIVA CHANDRA tained under Italian credit. JHA: Will the Minister of PETRO- LIUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased COAL AND NAPHTHA BASED FERTILIZER to state: PLANTS (a) whether it is a fact that the Ferti- 3525. SHR! SHIVA CHANDRA lizer Corporation of India has given an IHA: Will the Minister of PETRO- ultimatum to the Bihar Govemment to LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased give possession of the land required for to state: the proposed fertilizer factory at Barauni; and (a) whether the proposed Fc.rtilizer Plant at Mirzapur (U.P.) would be coal- (b) if so, the reasons therefor? based or naphtha based; and lHE MINISTER OF STATE IN (h) whether it would be in the public THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM or private sector? & CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL WELFARE (SHR! RAGHU RAMA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN IAH): (a) and (b). No, sir. The THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM Fertilizer Corporation of India has, AND CHEMICANS AND OF SOCIAL however, repI:esented to the Bihar Gov- WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RA- ernment that further delay in delivering MAIAH): (a) The proposed fc.rtilizer possession of the land meant for the pro- Plant at Mirzapur (U.P.) will be naptha ject will make it almost impossible for it hased. to adhere to the time schedule. (b) It will bc in the Private Sector. FERTILIZER FACTORY AT BARAUNI PRINTING MACHINERY 3524. SHRI SHIVA CHANDRA J HA: Will the Minister of PETRO- 3526. SHRI PREM CHAND LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased VERMA : Will the Minister of to state: WORKS, HOUSING AND SUPPLY (a) when the proposed Fertilizer be ea~ed to state : Factory at Barauni would be installed (a) whether it is a fact that printing and its production capacity; and machinery valued at Rs. 5.46 laths, purchased during !the period 1950 and (b) the foreign collaboration. if any, 1956, was installed at Aligarh and in the installation of the factory, the F aridabad after a lapse of six to eight name of the country and terms and con- vears; ditions for collaboration? (b) whether it is also a fact that this THE MINISTER OF STATE IN machinery was defective and it detero- THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM rated very much during this period. & CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL WELFARE (SHR! RAGHU RA- (c) if so, the reasons therefor and MAIAH) : (a) The installation of the the officers respolISible for this; Fertilizer factory at Barauni is expected (d) whether it is also a fact that the to be completed in the second half of three machines purchased from Temple 1970. The production capacity will be Trust for Aligarh and Faridabad Presacs 3,30,000 tonnes of urea, equivalent to in 1959 were not commissioned till 1,51,800 tonnes of Nitrogen per year. i966; and 2827 Wr;licll Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Written A nswcr.' 282&

( e ) if so, the reasons therefor; and (ii) The estimate of average birth the extent of loss for these long delays? and death rate is as follows :- THE DFPUTY MINISTER IN THE Period Birth rate Death rate MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUSING (p er thousand) (per thousand) AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL 1951-6J 41. 7 22.8 SINGH) : (a) Machinery valued at Rs. 5.46 laths was purchased dumg the 1961-65 41,0 17,2 period 1950-62, of these, machinery (b) Registered data on causes of worth about Rs. 1.30 lakhs approxima- deaths are not satisfactory. Small-pox is tely was installed without any delay and a notifiable disllUe, but T.B. and the remaining during subsequent years. Malaria are not notifiable throughout This was mainly due to non-availability the country. of electric power. According oto available information (b) No, Sir. the number of deaths due to Malaria, T.B, and Srnall-pox, year-wise are as (c) Does not arise. follows :-

(d) and (e). No machines were pur- Year Pulmonary T.B, Malaria Small pox chased for Aligarh and Faridabad Presses during 1959. However, three 1963 51,342 67,707 26,36 1 machines were purchased for Govern- 1964 17,164" 20.121" 11,831 rnent of India Press, Tempie Street, 1965 Not available Not available 9,050 Calcutta (not "from Temple Trust") 1966 Not available Not available 8,482 during the years 1956 to 1959. The delay in installation in the latter case 1967' Not available No! available 12,922 was want to A.c. power for the machines "Provisional ----~------.. _- --- .--~-- as the ~ was in DC area. There had (cl 'Health' being a State subject, the been DO loss. Stat·e Governments are prirnarily res- ponsihle for taking. rneasures to eradi- DEATH RA'! E DUE TO D!SEASES cate various diseases. The Central Gov- ernment have, however, initiated and 3527. SHRI PREM CHAND arc providing technical and financial VERMA: Will the Minister of assistance for the prornotion of country- HEALTH. FAMILY PLANNING wide campaigns for eradication of AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT be Malaria and Smallpox and for the 0011- pleased to state : trol of Tuberculosis and other major comrnunicable diseases. (a) the average age, death rate and average birth rate in India at present; ANTlUlOTlCS PLANT, RISHIKESH

(b) how much reduction of deaths 3528. SHRI lNDRAJIT GUPTA: due to Malaria, T.B. and Small pox was Will the Minister of PETROLEUM secured from 1963-64 to 1966-67; and AND CHEMICALS be pleased to atate: (a) whether the Soviet Premier dur- (c) the further measures adopted to ing his recent visit to India. made any eradicate these diseases and what results suggestions or offers of assistance to im- are expected? proVe the efficiency and management of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the Antibiotics plant ~t Rishlkesb; MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMll.Y (b) if so, Government's reaction PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- thereto; and LOPME.NT (SHRI B. S. MUTHY) : (8) (i) Average age (Median age) of ( c) .the nature of difficulties, if any, population as per 1961 Census is 20.02 which the progress of the plant has years. encountered ? 2829 Written Answus PHALOUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Wrilll'/J "~r~ 2830

THB MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) if so, whether any inquiry hai THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM been conducted into the matter and the AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL gUilty persons punished? WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH) : (a) No. THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) (b) Does not arise. and (b) Failures of electricity in Delhi have not heen due to the quality of coal (c) Repeated power failures, some supplied. Grade I coal is specified for defects in the design of the water-intake A and B stations of Rajghat power system and non-availability of Soya- House and Grade II coal for other beans in the country are the major power stations in Delhi. Tenders are handicaps at present. invited by Delhi Electric Supply Under- taking for supply of coal according to the above specifications and orders STAFF OF LADY HARDINGE MEDICAL placed. On receipt of the coal, samples COLLEGE arc taken and tested. Consignments or portions of consignments which are 3529. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: bdow specifications but whieh can be Will the Minister of HEALTH, consumed without affecting the opera- FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN tion of the boilers, are utilised and re- DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: duced payments to the suppliers are made accordingly. Coal below Grade (a) whether it is a fact that the staff JIIB, according to the contract, is deem- of the Lady Hardinge Medical College ed as not vendable and no payment for and Hospital, New Delhi, do not enjoy this is made. the same service conditions, pay scales, henefits and facilities as the correspond- POWER SUPPLY TO DELHI ing staff of leading Government hospi- 1:11, in the Capital; and 3531. SHRI SITARAM KESRI: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION (b) if so, th~ reasons for not treating AND POWER be pleased to state: the aggrieVed staff at par with Central (a) whether it is a fact that the sup- Government staff of other hospitals? ply of power of Bhakra-Nagal Project THE DEPUlY MINISTER IN THE has 1I0t been adequate to meet the re- MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY quirements of Delhi; and PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- (h) if so, the steps taken to ensure LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY) : adequate supply of power to Delhi? (a) and (b) The Lady Hardinge Medi- cal College and Hospital is not a THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Government institution and the em- AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) ployees of this institution, except those The present quantum of 80 MW receiv- on deputation from the Central Govern- ed from Bhakra Nangal Project, in addi- ment, have terms and conditions of ser- tion to the generating capacity available vice dilItinct from those applicable to at Delhi, is adequate to meet the re- Central Government employees. quirements of Delhi. (b) Does not arise. ELECnuCtTY FAILURES IN DELHI UNACCONTEO MONEY 3530. SHRI SITARAM KESRI: 3532. SHRI SITARAM KESRI: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION Will the Minister of FINANCE be AND POWER be pleased to state : pleased to state : (a) whether the frequent failure of (a) how many raids were conducted electricity in Delhi is due to the inferior by the Enforcement Directorate to un- quality of coal supplied by some ten- earth the unaccotmted money during the derera; and last two years; 2831 Writlen Answers MARCH 11. 1968 Written Answers 2832

(b) the total amount recovered dur- amrw ~ ~ W~. ing such raids; and ~~~~"i (C) the steps taken against the par- ties found in possession of the un- 3534.·-f\' mf ~ : W"""!1f. accounted money? ~~;~~~ THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER ~~ lift ~ ;~- f ... : AND MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) The (ifi) ifQ"T lfPr<;f Hifi ~ ~i raids made by the Enforcement Direc- torate are in connection with violation f ... ;~;~ ~~ ~ ~ fw;rT t ~ of the Foreign Exchange Regulation, f'JliQ"T cHi if <:).1"1' ~ta 'fiT 'filfr ~ and not for unearthing unaccounted :;r~ .rr~ ~a ~ <:TftTlfT I!i't money. The Income-tax Department conducted 389 searches during the two \1''1'1 ~ fifill'T :;rrCfT; aft, years 1966 and 1967. ( 13) lffl{ ~ aT ~~ ~i l{ iflll (b) The total value of assets seized hy the Income-tax Department during ~~ rn 'fir flRl'"<: ~ ? the above raids was RI. 137.87 lakbs. ~~~~~ (c) Necessary action to bring to tax ~ ~ " ~~"" ~ ~ the escaped income, as also initiation of penal proceedings has been taken, ~: (ifi) :;rT ~t I wherever necessary. ( l'il ) f 50 3fh tfOflT AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: ifiT f'f'fT"\ ~ I (a) the requirement!! of oil and other petroleum products in the country by -"~ ~~ it; ~; ~iit~ 1975; -.~- ... -.. ---~- -...-.~ ...... 3535. "" mf ~ : lflIT ~ (b) the estimated total quantity of oil available in the various deposits in ~ (AT IJftf s:f1;{T ~ iHIr.r lift ~ the country; and ii-~ : (c) whether the drilling operations ~ if!IT ~ lfif ~ ~ ~ undertaken so far will be able to meet flf. the country's requirements? if; GFg'l ~ ifiTtrii;flT:;r) ~ fwrT ~ ;mp: ~ :;rrq. IT

POSTS OF CmBP BNOINI!IIU, HIMACHAL Plan, 56,000 acres of land has been Piw>1!SH P.W.D. notified for acquisition under section 4 of the Land Acquisition Act, 1894. Out 3536. SHRI VIRBHADRA SINGH: of this, about 27,000 acres of land has Will the Minister of WORKS, HOUS- finally been acquired under section 6 of ING AND SUPPLY be pleased to the said Act. Final acquisition of the state: remaining area is under way and action to develop it will be taken a(ter it has (a) whether it is a fact that there are been acquired finally under section 6 of at present two Chief Engineers in that Act. Himachal Pradesh P.W.D.; (b) and (c) Yes, the matter was (b) whether the appointment of two considered and it has been decided to Chief Engineers is justified by the acquire all the land falling within the volume of work and is in keeping with urbanisable limits of Delhi. the size and the resources of the Union Territory; and

( c) if not, the reasons for not abo- HALDIA FERTILlZF.R PLANT lishing the second post of Chief engi- neer thereby preventing wasteful expen- diture? 3538. SHRI HIMATSINGKA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE CHEMICALS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUSING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL (a) whether a proposal to set up a SINGH) : (a) Yes. fertilizer plant in the public sector at Haldia has been received from a con- (b) and ( c) The matter is under sortium of French and Polish firms, as consideration. an alternative to a similar proposal from Philips Petroleum Company of FROZEN LAND IN DELHI RURAL AREAS U.S.A.; (b) if so, the broad outlines of the 3537. SHRI YAJNA DATT proposal and how the terms of this pro- SHARMA: posal compare with that offered by the SHRI R. S. VIDYARTHI: Philips Petroleum Company; and SHRI BENI SHANKER (c) the Government's reaction to SHARMA: these proposals?

Will the Minister of HEALTH, FA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN MILY PLANNING AND URBAN lHE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL (a) whether it is a fact that large WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RA- 'tracts of land have been frozen in the MAIAH): (a) No detailed proposals rural areas of Delhi without anything have been received. Mis. Polimex of substantial being done to develop them; Poland and Ensa of France have shown interest in a fertilizer plant at Haldia. (b) whether the people affected by the policy have submitted any represen- (b) and (c) Do not arise. tation; and RE-ScHEDULINO OP DEBT REPAYMBNTI (c) if so, the action taken thereon? BY STATES THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 3539. SHRI HIMATSlNGKA: Will MINISTRY OF HEALlH, FAMILY tile Minister of FINANCE be pleased PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- to state : LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY) : ,(a) Within the urbauiaable limits of (a) whether Government have turn- Delhi, as envisaged in the Delhi Master ed down the State Government'. request 2835 Wril/t'li AmlVers MARCH 11, 1968 Wrillen .~r. 2836

[or re-scheduling of the debt repay- ments by them to the Centre amounting to Rs. 376 crores this year; 3540 'li ~ ~ ; (b) if so, which of the States had .,' i: ~ made such requests and the amount of ""~~ : debt BOught to be re-scheduled by each State; lfl{T ~~ 3Th: ~ ;~ 1W,'"

(d) the reasons for the rejection of ,..r~ I this demand? THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (lg) ~ B... ~ 'f.1WR ~ ~ AND MINISTER OF FINANCE ~ flfa'i!t ;;r"i~ ~~ ~ (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) to -on': am: (d) Requests for re-scheduling of debt f;;..r.t t~;:r ;;yf;:rI.iT 'r. ~; 3fT<: repayments or for postponemcnt of rc- coveries were received during the year ( 1T ) ~ -CfTT fir..r.t ilIfflf;:{ ~ii from the Govcrnments of Andhra Pra- desh, Assam, Bihar, , Madras. ;;~i f;;.il- 1Til- ~. afrl: ;;.~ :~ Punjab, Orissa and West Bengal. The .~ it. ;rr~r ir ~ ~ ~ reasons for the requests and the amounts involved varied from State to i- ? State but the concession was generally sought in order to augment the State's ~~~~ resources for financing the Plan out- lays, which had been considerably ~~"~~"~: affected because of ari~ non-Plan (;;.) ;;~ t commitments. (.-) The requests were not acceded to as repayments by State Governments had f;;l.iflf1'[

However, a tentative scheme of con- ~- 100 solidation of all Central Government loans advanced to the States up to 31st ~r- 49 March, 1967, and outstanding on 31&t March, 1968, except those advanced for ~r- 865 If; releuding and certain other purposes aloog with the refutation of the repay- >.Mt-4 494 58 ment terms and rationalisation of in- 175 27 terest rates has been forwarded to the ~~ States for their views. This sd1eme will be finalised after the comments of 1,6&3 101 the State Governments have been re- ceived. 2837 W,j/lcn Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Writ/en Answers '2838

'l1;:rTf'f.q ~ 11;'0 0 3542. ~ i~ ~ mit 'f. q"f] fTIiT "'1' 0 ~~~""~~~ 'f.[ ~ arri' 0 ~; , ___-A- _ ___, ",;q- ..n- ~ fit;: "1';)'1' <:T;;nrr; ~ ('f.) 1 m, 1967 ~ 3!iI' i;I'lIl m ~ ~ 5N'J'lfi 'lV'l'T ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ q;: f.t;cr-rr "-:~r qf.ir ~;:~- O!f!i fiI;,;r1JfT- 1 ()Ii :!., ~ q;;:ff;p: '" ~ ru f.!;wn ~ ~ llT1JfT-2 28 20 ~; am:: ',l1Jf1'-3 (;(iO 25 180 (IT) ~ ill ~ ~ il' !imiT<: ~"i- ·1(,0 20 1 " i~ri~~ ? ~~ 175 .~ "~~"" ~ ~ if . OPENING OF C.G.H.S. DISPENSARIES IN DELHI ~ ..t""t~:. 1,50,000 ~ 3541. SHRI M. L. SONDHI: Will the Minister of HEALTH, FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- (Ii) ~-a ~ il' ~ LOPMENT be pleased to statc : q;;ff;n: ~ ~ ~ ~ 1ft dljcWlifi6j (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- ~ ~ 2:1': ttct; m ~ ~ m ~ ment have sanctioned funds for the ~ ~ ~ ~ opening of two C,G.H.S. Dispensaries in ron "imT I IIi'tf Delhi during 1968-69; (dI.,ijf.. ~ .. <'I' ~ m ~ ~ (b) whether Government propose to ~ ron "imT I ~~ ~t~ open a dispensary in Shakurbasti area in aa~~~ ...... ~ view of the difficulties being faced by Government employees there; and ~tii~tt~rt I ~ ~ fiImlrr l:fI' iI'ar ~ ~ (c) if so, when this will be opened.? i;~ ~ t at'm ilm', "~ THE DEPUTY MINIsrER IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMll..Y ~ (at)f(\li'lii<'l i~ ~ amm q;: PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- <'I'1Tm ;mrr t I

~~ri~~ (-) 1968-69 if li11f r"'1

(lti) ~tt~~~ ADlVASIS it~~ i~~~ 3545. SHRI ONKARLAL BORRA : ~~ri;~~~ Will the Minister of SOCIAL WEL- om dl'i fcRffl iA" ~ f.t;lrr ;;rr change of religious faith. I ;969-70 ~ ~. ~" if 'iIT

~ ~ ALLOTMENT OF QUARTERS IN am-m "' F({ ii R. K. PURAM ~~."t "t~:ia.. ~r:~c: it;~ 'I'fitil'I' ~ 3548. SHRI YASHPAL SINGH: Will the Minister of WORKS, HOUS- ~ ar.rtT ~ ~ ~ ~ I ~ itiTf ING AND SUPPLY be pleased to 1fet" 'l': ~ cm:IT lI>1 m it; ~ ~ state: 1li f.:rfi:m ~ ~ ~ ~r ;mft ~ ~ it; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUSING mer fu:mr

ABOLITION OF HONY. SURGI!ON SYSTEM VASECTOMY OPERATIONS

3549. SHRI B. N. SHASTRI: Will 3547. SHRI YASHPAL SINGH: the Minister of HEALTH, FAMILY Will the Minister of HEALTH, FA- PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- MILY PLANNING AND URBAN LOPMENT be pleased to state : DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that a person (a) whether Government have decid- (male) who offers himself for vasec- ed to abolish the Hony. Surgeon System tomy is paid an amount after the ope- in the country; ration is over; and

(b) if so, the reasons thereof; and (b) whether it is also a fact that the agent who brings the person ~d the doctor who performs the operation arc (c) the effect of Hospitals' ~ericc -due to abolition of this system? also paid? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FA- MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY MILY PLANNING AND URBAN PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- DEVELOPMENT (DR. S. CHANDRA- LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY) : SEKHAR) : (a) and (b). Yes. A per- (a) So far as Government is aware this son who offers himself for vasectomy system is prevalent in Government hos- operation is paid some money as c~ pitals at Bombay, Madras, Calcutt:a and pensation for loss of wages. for meetmg Delhi. In regard to Delhi, a review of incidental expenses etc. Similarly the the system is currently being conducted motivator gets remuneration to .c~r by a Committee set up by the Delhi the usual expenses incurred by hIm .m Administration. bringing a motivated case .t~ the a~ (b) and (e). Do not arise. Planning Centres for recelvmg servIces. 13 L,) S(CP)/68-6 2843 Written Answers MARCH II, 1968 Wrillen AnsweTl 2844

IMPORT OF STEELS SHEETS BY I.O.C. (b) whether Government are aware that such procedure provided scope to 3550. SHRl SAMAR GUHA: Will Refineries for discrimination distribu- the Minister of PETROLEUM AND in tion of steel sheets to favourite manu- CHEMICALS be pleased to refer to the facturers; reply given to Short Notice Question No. 16 on the 21st December, 1967 (c) the reasons for distribution of in- and state: digenous steel hee~ to the manufac- (a) whether Govemment ascertaincd turers through the Oil Refineries; and before issuing licences to I.O.C. for im- (d) whether such procedure has led porting steel sheets for manufacturing to unequal developments in drum and oil barrels and bitumen drums. if the barrel manufacturing Industries? latter had the capacity to utilise the whole quantity of the imported sheets; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (b) if so, how the I.O.C. failed to AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL utilise the whole quantity of steel sheets WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RA- and sold out large part of the import- a MAIAH): (a) Bitumen drum sheets ed steel sheets in the open marke:; and arc issued to Oil Refineries/Oil Com- (c) the steps taken by Government panies as the demand of these sheets against the 1.0.C. for unnecessa'ry ex- started with the envisaged production of penditure of foreign exchange for im- bitumen hy the refineries. porting miscalculated quantity of steel sheets? (h) to (d). Indigenous steel sheets arc also required for the same purpose THE MINISTER OF STATE IN as imported sheets for bitumen packing THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM ancl no different procedure for alloca- AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL tion is called for. WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RA- MAIAH) : (a) Yes, Sir. Refineries use steel sheets either in their own drum fabricating plants or (b) The Indian Oil Corporation enter into long-term agreements with could not utilise fully the imported fabricators for producing drums by set- Bitumen Drum-sheet due to delay in the ting up the plants near the refineries' production schedule of Bitumen in the premises. Barauni Refinery. Indian Oil Corpora- tion is not selling this stcel in the open ~ 51"' " ~~

3551. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will ('ti) ffi q!;1f ~ ~ arR the Minister of PETROLEUM AND mr CHEMICALS be pleased to refer to the ~ iiT1fu' ~ m iii ~ iFir rnr reply given to Short Notice Question eN 1967-68 iii ~ ~ 9"roftr No. 16 on the 21st December, 1967 ~~ttii~~:~ and state: ~~~ (a) the reasons for issuing licences for importing bitumen drum sheets to (Ii) ~ ej, m ~ ffi ~ Oil Refineries instead of to manufactur- ers of such drums directly; ~; 2845 Written Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Written Answers 2846

(tT) W ~ ~ ~ f.t; ~ in the country and as far as Govern- m ment are aware, none has appealed to 1fq" ~ ~ ;;nftf mm q<: any foreign country for the supply of lI''ifT'f ~ ~; am: eyes. There are, however, bilateral arrangements with Ceylon, U.K. and ('!J) ~~ efT w ~ 1968-69 U.S.A. from Where these Eye Banks get it f<:rit ~ ;;ryfu 1fq" mm ~ eyes of and on. ~:rit a:ITl:1'f!:fif l!>'T ~ l!>'T ~ HANDLOOM INDUSTIlY crrf.t; ''T ~ oil ';{U f'litlT ~ ~ 3554. SHRI CHENGALRAVA NAIDU: Will the Minister of FIN- ~~ ~~r ANCE be pleased to state: ~r ~ tt~ : ('fo) 1967-68 (a) whether it is fact that he dis- it~;r;;re~~ii;"rr cussed with the Chief Ministers of the Southern States at Bangalore on the lflIT :lIT 1i ~ if.iMt ~ l!>'T m: '!Jr, 17th February, 1968 the problem! fac- (1'1' 1ft ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 1i ~ it ing the handloom industry; em l!>'T aM-!ffi 3 2 srfumr if>lft ~ I (h) if so, what were the subjects dis- ;;~ if>lft if,T am<: ~ ~ ar1<: 00 cussed; and ~: I ( c) the decisions arrived at?

(lJl) ;q.f ~~r;rr if,T l'li'T"f THE DEPUIY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE rr>JT ~ 'foft"f arrf'!J'fo froCf I If (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, ( IT ) arr~r fCfif.T

LoWERING OF HEIGHT OF PONG DAM have been made by the representatives of the Delhi Dehat Kalyan Samiti indi- 3557. SHRI HEM RAJ: Will the cating nhat the Samiti would forcibly Minister of IRRIGATION AND occupy the land acquired by the Gov- POWER be pleased to state: ernment. (a) whether the Himachal Pradesh Government have made any proposal to (b) No one would be allowed to for- lower the height of the Pong Dam; and cibly occupy any Government land and strict action would be taken against (b) if so. the details tbereof and those who take law in their own hands. Government's reaction thereto? IRRIGATION PROJECTS IN OIuSSA THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) 3559, SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO: and (b). In December, 1967, the Chief Will the Minister of IRRIGATION Minister of Himachal Pradesh suggest- AND POWER be pleased to state: ed lowering the height of the Pong Dam to 200 ft. against 380 ft. as proposed at (a) the number of irrigation projects present and to meet t he consequent de- in Orissa which have heen given clear- crease in supply of water by construct- ance during 1966-67 and 1967-68; ing two small dams over rivers Gaj (b) tbe present state at which tbese :ond Baner. projects stand; and The proposal has been examined and (c) the reasons for the delay for the not found feasible from technical and completion of these projects? financial considerations since it would drastically reduce the five shortage of THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Pong Dam from 5.6 MAF to only 0.98 AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAU) : (a) MAP resulting in large reduction of Nil. irrigation and power benefits. It would (b) and (c). Do not arise. also render infructuous a considerable portion of the expenditure already in- curred. Further, in absence of the dam ASSISTANCE TO ORISSA of the proposed height at Pong, India 3560. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO: will not be able to fully exploit the Will the Minister of FINANCE be Beas river supplies allowed to it under pleased to state : the Indus Water Treaty. (a) whether Government have re- THREAT OF FORCIBLE Ot:CUPATION OP ceived a request from the Government LAND IN DELHI of Orissa for assistance in connection with the drought situation in the State; 3558. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO: Will the Minister of HEALTH, FA- (b) the nature of the assistance MlLY PLANNING AND URBAN sought by the State Government; and DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : (c) the assistance proposed to be (a) whether it is a fact that the given by the Centre? Delhi Dehat Kalyan Samiti has threaten- ed to forcibly occupy the land acquired THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER by Government for building purposes; AND MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MORARJI DESAI) : (a) Yes, and Sir. (b) the reaction of the Government thereto? (b) The State Government proposed that the expenditure on drought relief THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE measures up to the 30th November, MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY 1967 may be included in the ceiling of PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- expenditure on relief measures for pur- LOPMENT (SHRI B. S_ MURTHY): poses of Central assistance according to (a) A press statement is understood to the existing pattern. 2851 Wrillen Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Written Answers 2852

(c) The proposal of the State Gov- Alkaloid Factory at Ghazipur, U.P., ernment has been accepted by the were not paid any ex-gratkl production Centre and the actual expenditure on bonus in 1967 although they were get- drought relief has already been taken ting it regularly every year at the time into account in releasing funds to them of Dewali Festival since 1959; towards their expenditure on approved items of relief of natural calamities in- (b) whether it is also a fact that the cluding floods and cyclone. overall production in the Factory parti- cularly in the alkaloid section had gone OPIUM AND ALKALOID FACTORY GHAZl- up in 1966-67; and PUR (c) if 50, the reasons for stopping 3561. SHRI TRIDIB KUMAR the bonus in spite of the rise in produc- CHAUDHURI: Will the Minister of tion? FINANCE be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (a) whether it is a fact that 22 new AND MINISTER OF FINANCE workers were recruited irregularly on (SHRI MORARJI DESAI) : (a) No the 22nd September, 1967, by the ex-gratkl production award bas ~ far management of the Government Opium been paid to the workers of the Gov- and Alkaloid Factory at Gazipur, V.P., ernment Opium and Alkaloid Works. in violation of a standing agreement Ghazipur, for the opium year 1966-67. with the Factory Workers' Union for The statement that they were getting giving preference in the matter of re- this award every year since 1959 at the cruiting new labour hands to the em- time of the Diwali Festival is not ployable children and dependent family correct. No production award has been members of those employees of the Fac- paid for the year 1965-66. The Diwali tory who die while still in employment; Festival has nothing to do with the pay- ment of this award. The payment is (b) whether it is also a fact that in dependent on the fulfilment of certain accordance with a directive issued by norms of output of opium and semi- his Ministry some of the sanctioned refined morphine as laid down by Gov- posts are not normally filled up in order ernment and can be made in respect of to meet the exigency of providing em- any particular opium year only after ployment to the children and depen- the factory management has certified dants of factory workers who die in har- that the conditions for grant have been neliS; and fulfilled. (c) the reasons for employing the above referred 22 new workers from (b) A statement giving the oVe£all outside superseding the claims of the production of opium, semi-refined mor- children and dependents of such dead phine (which forms the base for produc- workers ? ing refined alkaloids) and refined alka- loids during the years 1964-65, 1965-66 THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER and 1966-67 is given helow:- AND MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) to (c). The information is being collected year Opium Semi-Tefi- Refined and will be laid on the Table of the (Kgms) ned mor- alkaloids House as soon as possible. phine (Kgms.) (Ibs.) OPIUM AND ALKALOID FACTORY, GHAZl- 1964-65 511436 6504 3678 PUR 1965-66 437250 6213 3525 1966-67 51l,231 6J49 4147 3562. SHRI TRIDIB KUMAR CHAUDHURI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: It will be seen that the output of semi- (a) whether it is a fact that the refined morphine is lower in 1966-67 as worken of the Government Opium and compared to the two earlier years. 2853 Written Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Writ/en Answers 2854

(c) The question of stopping the ( d) if so, the reasons therefor and production award does not arise. The the action taken by the Government for Government are, however, examining the development of aU the lands in the the question of revising the production context of the shortage of foodgrains in norms which should govern its payment. the country?

THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION INCOME.TAX DUE FROM Fn.M PEOPLE AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) The total irrigation envisaged under the 3563. SHRI K. N. PANDEY: Will low level canals under the Tungabhadra the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Project is as follows :- to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 3411 on the 7th Decem- Andhra Mysore Total ber, 1967 and state: Pradesh in acres (a) whether the infonnation regard. Low leval canal 1,48,725 92,345 2,41,1J7() ing income-tax and wealth-tax due from Left Bank Canal 5,8 },OllO 5,80,000 film producers/ actors has since been collected; ',48,725 6,72,345 8.21,070 (b) if so, the details thereof; and Localisation under these canals, wet (c) if not, the reasons for the delay? ftnd dry irrigation being in the ratio of I : 3 has been finalised. THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE (h) The total area actually irrigated (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes. upto the end of March, 1967 is as Sir. The required infonnation has since helow:- heen collected and a statement in im- plementation of the Assurance is being Andhla Mysore Total laid on the Table of the House. [Placed Pradesh in Library. See No. LT-423/68] in acres Low level c:tnal 1,48,725 78,5JO 2,27,225 (b) Details are given in the state- LeFt Bank Canal 3,97,O,}O 3,97,000 ment laid on the Table of the House. IPlaced in Library. See No. LT-423/68] 1,48,725 4,75,50u 6,24,225 (c) Does not arise. (c) and (d). The percentage which TUNGABHADRA PROJECT the irrigated area bears to the potential created in respect of the Right Bank 3564. SHRI GADIUNGANA low level canal exceeds 95 % and is very GOWD: Will the Minister of IRRIGA- satisfactory. Under the left bank canal, TION AND POWER be pleased to this percentage is 76.4. The reasons for <;tate: slow progress arc mainly lack of com- munications, lack of finance and back- (a) the extent of land localised as wardness of the tract in general. Various Irrigated, dry, and as wet under Tunga- ayacut development measures such as bhadra Project low level channel in the assistance for levelling of land, construc- States of Andhra Pradesh and Mysore tion of field channels, demonstration respectively; farms etc. are under implementation. It is expected that the entire area will be (b) the extent of land (in acres) developed by 1972-73. developed under irrigation, dry and wet out of the localised lands in both the NON.PROJECT AID RECEIVED IN 1966·67 States; 3565. SHRI GADILINGANA (c) whether the land under any cate. GOWD : Will the Minister of gory is not developed; and FINANCE be pleased to state : 2855 Wri/It'n Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Writ/en Allswers 2856

(a) the amount of non-project aid (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes. received by India from other countries Sir. during 1966-67; and (b) The WeaIth-tax assessments (b) the schemes for which and the which were already completed for the States in which this amount was spent? earlier years up to and inclusive of the assessment year 1962-63 have now been THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER reopened and investigations are in pto- AND MINISTER OF FINANCE gress. (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) The amount of non-project aid received by SAURASHTRA CHEMICALS India from Consortium Members during 1966-67 amounted to $ 90 I million. 3567. SHRI MADHU LIMAYE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be- (b) The non-project assistance i., not pleased to state: earmarked State-wise or scheme-wise. It (a) whether it is a fact that a cheque- is used for various proposes like agricul- and a letter sought to be sent out by tural inputs. industrial raw-materials. any of the Directors, M3J\agers and components, spare parts and other main- Officers of the Saurashtra Chemicals tenaace purposes for the economy as a was caught by the Customs Authorities whole. in 1965-66; OUt of the total amount of $ 90 I (b) whether it is also a fact that the- million, an amount of about $ 300 mil- cheque was for a sum of £ 7,000 of lion was allocated for import of ferti- thereabout and was drawn on the Lon- lizers, of raw material for fertilizer pro- don Branch of the First National City" duetion and pesticides for country-wide Bank of New York; use $ 520 million for raw materials. a~e parts and components, including (C) if so, the action taken in the' iron and steel items, non-ferrous metals, matter; and chemicals etc. for industries all over the (d) if not, the reasons therefor? country and $ 35 million was allocated for import of lubricants. THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE A small part of $ 901 miIIion i.e. (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and' about $ 40 million, was available for (b). A cheque for a sum of £ 7,000 import of items of a capital nature like drawn on the London Branch of the halancing equipment, which again was First National City Bank of New York, not distributed State-wise or scheme- along with a covering letter, attempted wise. to he sent out of the country by the- Managing Director of Saurashtra Ce- ment & Chemical Industries was WEALTH-TAX IN RESPECT OF Ud., SHRI R. K. RUIA intercepted by the Customs authorities on the 31st October, 1966. 3566. SHRI MADHU LIMAYE : (c) The case of attempted export of Will the Minister of FINANCE be the credit instrument without proper pleased to state : permission of the Reserve Bank of India (a) whether Government have re- has been adjudicated by the Collector examined the assessments on account of of Customs, Bombay who bas imposed' Wealth-tax in respect of the concerns of a penalty of .~. 1,65,000/- on the Shri R. K. Ruia and MIs. Ramnarayan sender. An appeal against tbis order & Sons in the light of charges made in of the Collector of Customs has been the letter addressed by a Member of filed by the party, which is pending be- Parliament; and fore the Central Board of Excise & Customs. (b) if so, the outcome thereof? As a follow-up action, the business THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER and residential premmes of the persOD' AND MINISTER OF FINANCE concerned in this case as also certain 2857 Wrillcn AllSIl'ers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Writ/en Answers 2858 other premises were searched by the (b) Information in this regard is not officials of the Enforcement Directorate readily available. in November, 1966 and some foreign exchange and incriminating documents (c) No, Sir. were seized. The scrutiny of the. seized (d) Does not arise in view of (c) documents revealed prima facie un- above. authorised foreign exchange transactions in respect of which three Show-cause notices have been issued to the concern- VIOLATION OF FOREIGN EXCH.'NllE er person. The cases are under adjudi- REGULATIONS cation by the Director of E"nforcement. The Reserve Bank of India has also 3569. SHRI MADHU UMAYE: called upon the concerned person not to Will the Minister of FINANCE be operate on his foreign accounts. pleased to state : (d) Does not arise. (a) whether it is a fact that the Re- serve Bank of India or other Govern- DIRECTOR OF SAURASHTRA CHEMICALS ment agencies had found in account of LTD. Shri K. N. Mehta/N. K. Mehta with London Banks large sums of money "(around £50,000) in foreign exchange; 3568. SHRI MADHU LIMAYE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be (b) if so, whether any action has pleased to state: been taken to bring back these funds to India and punish thc party for his hav- «I) whether it is a fact that one of ing violatcd the foreign exchange regu- the Directors of Saurashtra Chemicals. lations; he fore his appointment there. was certi- (c) whether the Reserve Bank. of fied by the Reserve Bank of India as an India and other agencies have been pres- Indian national; surised into suppressing this case and (b) whether it is also a fact that the the £ 7,000 cheque (seized by the Cus- Calcutta High Court has also upheld toms in 1965-66) affairs; and sometime ago that the said Director is (d) if so. the reaction of Govern- an Indian citizen; ment thereto? (c) whether it is a facl that the THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER CustomslReserve Bank of India I AND MINISTER OF FINANCE enforcement Branch have been advised (SHR[ MORARJI DESAI) : (a) The not to proceed against the said Director investigations made by the Enforcement for having violated Foreign Exchange Directorate have prima facie revealed Regulations; and inter alia that Shri K. N. Mehta has heen maintaining an account in a Lon- (d) if so. the reasons for not taking don Bank and making payments there- any action against him? from without the permission of the Re- THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER serve Bank of India. These payments. AND MINISTER OF FINANCE appear to exceed £ 50,000. (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Pre- (h) Three show-cause notices have sumably the reference is to Shri K. N. heen issued to Shri Mehta by the En- Mehta, Managing Director of the Sau- forcement Directorate for suspected rashtra Cement and Chemical Indus- violation of the provisions of the For- tries Ltd., a public limited company. eign Exchange Regulations Act, 1947. No certification by the Reserve Bank. of Adjudication proceedings are in pro- India regarding nationality is necessary gress. The Reserve Bank of India has. before a person is appointed as a Direc- also called upon Shri Mehta not to ope- tor of a Company, within the meaning rate on his foreign accourtts. of the Companies Act, 1956. Enquiries (c) No, Sir. made also show that the Reserve Bank had not certified Shri Mehta as an In- (d) Does not arise in view of (c) dian national. above. 2839 MARCH 11, 1968 Written Aliswers 2860

GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT ( If ) -~ efT ~i.; 'flIT ~ ~; 3570. SHRI D. N. PATODIA: Will am: the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : ~ ro ~ lfi"li'ifTfw * ~ ~: ~ "'T ~ ~ ~ '!)[ ~ (a) whether it is a fact that per -capita gross national product of India '!)[ f1fm ~ ?

~~~~~ .~ (l[) mm'ffl ~" '!)[ ~i ~ 35 7!. .n .t~ ~ : 'flIT fire * f;rcrtfm "i"CT * i~ ~ ;;rr~ r~ ;refT ~ ~ "'T PIT ~~ fl1" ~ 'If.r 3f[ql/lf'f. ~ ~r ~~ ~ lfi"li;nf<:lfT 'foT (i 5 t~ ~

~ f<;riJ ~ it 4 0 ~ Wlr i!il ~ (b) and (c). No. Under the existing policy remittance of profilll is allowed ~ ~ ~ l!iif fif;m f;;;r.:r 'fiT "rflf after payment of taxes in India. ~ ~ ~ ~ i'fT1f W ~ arh: ~ ... !ifiRr 'fiT 3f

INVESTMENT BY OIL CoMPANIES OVERTIME ALLOWANCE TO CLASS IV EMPLOYEES OF COCHIN CuSTOMS HOUSE

3573. SHRI ARJAN SINGH 3575. SHRI VISWANATHA ME- BHADORIA: Will the Minister of NON: Will the Minister of FINANCE PETROLEUM and CHEMICALS be he pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that the pay- (a) the total capital invested in India ment of Overtime Allowance due to by the Oil Companies namely, Burmah Class IV employees of the Customs De- Shell Marketing Co., Indo-Burma Petro- partment at Cochin for the work per- leum Co., Assam Oil Company, Oil formed in guarding the vessel India Ltd., Philips Petroleum Company, "MARIAMMA" has been withheld for Esso Standard Inc. Co. and Calcutta Oil the last four years; and Co.; (b) if so, the 'reasons therefor? (b) whether Government propose to THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER enact any law to ensure that these Com- AND MINISTER OF FINANCE panies do not send their profits to for- (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and eign countries but re-invest them in India (b). The Class IV employees were em- for the next ten years; and ployed on overtime duty at the request of owners of the vessel on payment of (c) if so, by when? overtime fees. Since the party at whose request the Class IV employees were THE MINISTER OF STATE IN employed on overtime duty did not pay THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM the overtime fees, the Collector was AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL waiting for recovery before payment of WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMA- overtime allowance to the staff. How- IAH): (a) The information is being ever, orders have since been issued to collected and will be laid on the Table the Collector to make the payment of of the House in due eoUl'le. the overtime allowance due to the Ilaff. 2863 Wrillell A IIswers MARCH II, 1968 Writtell Allswers 2864

COCHIN CuSTOMS HOUSE of the scheme for installation of a ther- mal power station in Kerala which envi- 3576. SHRI VISWANATHA ME- ~ae i~taati of a 55 MW generat- NON; Will the Minister of FINANCE mg umt at an estimated cost of be pleased to state ; Rs. 9.37 crores are in progress. The (a) whether it is a fact that the site for the power station has been· normal hours of work for the Executive selected at AmbaJamedu about 18 miles staJf of the Preventive Section including t~ east of Ernakulam. Consulting Sepoys of the Customs Department at EnglDeeTS have been appointed for the preparation of detailed project report, Cochin il; nine hours; technical specifications etc. etc. (b) whether the Customs Study Team (c) According to the present indica- have recommended to reduce the work- tions, the thermal power station is like- ing hours from nine to eight hours; and ly to be commissioned by 1972-73. (c) if so, the steps being taken to implement this and from which date CUSTOMS STUDY TEAM REPOIlT onwards this reduction will be imple- mented ? 3578. SHRI VISWANATHA ME- NON; Will the Minister of FINANCE THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER be pleased to refer to the reply given AND MINISTER OF FINANCE to Unstarred Question No. 757 on the (SHRI MORARJI DESAI); (a) to 16th November, 1967 and state: (c). Prior to 1st March, 1968 the Pres- cribed hours of work of the Preventive (a) whether Government have taken Officers at all Custom Houses including decision on the main 'recommendations Cochin Custom House were nine hours contained in Part I of the Report of the per day. The Customs Study Team had Customs Study Team and of those con- recommended the 'reduction in the hours tained in Part II of the report; and of work from nine to eight hours. (b) if so, the nature thereof? Necessary orders have since been issued prescribing the hours of work as eight THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER hours per day in the case of Preventive AND MINISTER OF FINANCE Officers with effect from lst March. (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and 1968. The hours of work of Sepoys of (b). A statement 'A' in regard to recom_ the Cochin Custom House are already mendations in Part I of the Report of eight hours per day. the Customs Study Team is laid on the Table of the House. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-424/68] THERMAL PLANT. KERALA The Empowered Committee set up to 3577. SHRI VISWANATHA ME- consider the recommendations in Part NON; II has not yet completed consideration of the recommendations made therein. SHRI P. C. ADICHAN : A statement 'B' indicating the decisions Will the Minister of IRRIGATION taken so far is laid on the Table of the AND POWER be pleased to state; House. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 424/68]. (a) the present position of the Scheme to have a Thermal Plant at KaJamassery in Kerala; PRICES (b) the details thereof; and 3579. SHRI LOBO PRABHU: wm (e) when the work is likely to be Ihe Minister of FINANCE be pleased to completed ? state: THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (a) whether his Ministry malta any AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) statistical studies of inflationary trends; and (b). Preporatory works in respect and 2865 Writ/en A'MIIWS PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Writtell Allswers 2866

(b) if so, whether any evaluation of (c) Public men have not been ap- the effects of high prices on (i) pro- pointed as Chairmen. Thirteen out of ·cureme:nt of foodgrains in areas and the fourteen Chairmen referred to in times of scarcity, (ii) idle industrial the statement u re professional bankers capacities and consequent unemploy- and the fourteenth has been a director ment, (iii) exports of commodities in and part time Chairman of the bank for short supply, (iv) imports of plant and a number of years. -commodities with prices increased by devaluation, (v) dearness allowances and (vi) taxes which are added to the ~~ ... prices in a closed market, has been 3581. ,,'hio,.o i~: made? taft I{o fifo ~ : THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE -tt~~: (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and W 'I1n1f ~ lfi'fT ~ ~ ·(b). An analysis of the economic situa- tion, including inflationary trends etc .. itiT FIT mfiti: is presented every year in the Economic Survey circulated to Parliament. The (iti) ~ ~ ~~ lfir.f ~ effects of high prices on the aspects W~~~~ ~~.". mentioned in Part (b) of the question ~ 'liT smrrq ~; form part of Government's constant re- rn am: view of the various facton; affecting the (If) ~ ~ it; ~ ~ -economy. iti~~~it;~

CHAIRMEN OF BANKS <'!f.t it; ft;nf ~ ~ ~ ~ iI>f.t tT 3tiqQ'aidl ~r am: ~ lR (flti 3580. SHRI LOBO PRABHU: Will ~~~ the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to ,tate: ~~i~.r (a) the number of Chairmen of the (-tt.mt ~~ ~ : (iti) ~ q':;r- "Boards of Directors of Scheduled Banks rm' ~ rtft trenchment of any posts on account of ~ ~ fVm1I;1' ~ ~ ~ ~ the appointment of whole time Chair- f.mr.t men. t; am: 2867 WrillcII Answers MARCH II, 1968 Writ/en Answers 2868

('I") ~ ~ 1l ~ ~i~ of four members consisting of two indi- i~ ~ viduals and a partnership finn of two rof t ? members on receipt of complaints against them. These enquiries were not ~ anmi ~ ~ ~ " proceeded with because of changed cir- ~-.r ."~:~;;r~ cumstances. 'fir ;;rr ~ ~ ~ ~ Jf'l'1'furT;f lent transactions but the matter is one ~ ~~.: ~ for the Board of the Stock Exchange 13 1968 f;;roj' to consider. ~ m

~ 'R ~-a: ~ i!:ffl I 3f'!irff ~ :~ fm erqr ar~ ~~ ltir m-crr-;rn:r "~ ~ t ~r t ar.~ ~r~~er: ~-~: ~;r 'til' mfi"IT 3If1I;r I3\'T otT f'ifritm:1' ~ I ;;n:lf?:w ~ crqr ~;; ~ ~t-~ ~ ~ ~i:r (ix) 1-4-1959 ~ 3!1tt1f ~r tTT - .. :~~ ~;: ;:M'T 3Flf mtr.fT ~ ~.~ ~ ~ OR ~r I r;rr~~~r ~;W~;;~ iff\' ~r iff rn ~. I ~. 31fijf"Rf, ALCOHOLIC DRINKs ~:rr-~i; :~i-~i; or1'<: '!f1 ~ lIi'<:ifT; ~~ ...ir~~ ( iv) ~ <'NT m /f1'(fT'lr.IT; :1586. et~""~: (v) ;m:T ..err ~;;; ~ ~~~i;~~ ~ f;;qef1!T l{ m if; ~~ ~ 3fTlf ~; ~ ~G ern-T \fifi' trr ll"tf1rn" ('I') ~~rr~~e- ~; 3fT1fi-c;f 'fCflb: m: ~ ~.; (vii) r-~ lf1IIl'\'I"r ~ <'Ill!. (if) ;r~~i~ra: ~~iiar q-<: orm-;;-'nf ~ 'R 'll'r ~ ~ !tir ;ftlr d~"i ~ ~ ~; ~ 'fi'T ~ ~~.; am: (viii) timr if; ~ fro ifl r~ ('If) lift ~ a1 ~ 'flIT If!roIT ~ t-fr i!:mT ~ ~ Cf'If-3I'fu'- i? Wrillell Answers 2871 MARCH 11. 1968 Written An.swers 2872

~W "'" tfif ~ if (II ) ~a- ~ ~ f.,ilfur ~ f<;pf ifqn; ~ (.n ~ fiIt) : (IF) ~~ iii m1f ifll'T wi \1''fT ~ 356 I \1'1( f'fiq ~i t· am: ~ri i~ ~ m (II) 135 I i~~ ~ am: (tr). ~ ~ I ~~ ~ 'flIT ~ ~ ~ f'fi ifqn; ~ ~r IFf ~ IFf IFot oWWI4i\11 IFr ~a- ~a- If\: 'ri' ~i ~ am: ifqn; ~ I 3fTlfCil' ~"i 0IlT\: IfRT 'i ~~ ~ If\: IF7; ~ ~~; it ~ it arn'Cil' it ~ ~ ~ I ~ ~ ~ ~: ~ ~r -~ tt"~ (tr) em 'IT fIF mT ~ ~ mf{ ~~ ~~ ~;~ if 'fiq'!lf;:l:fT iii 'IT ~~ 'IN If\: ~ir ~r;:;i f'fil([::;mrr ~: ~ ,IFf ~ fIF ~: ~ 01'1<: ~ oiifiT \1'OmTT U': ~ ~ ~~ I and (d) the total amount of loan given ~ ~ ~~ 'fiT ~ If\: ~ so far for this project? ~ ~ I ~ ~: ~ ~ it TIlE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION IffiT If\: 'ri' art~~ ~ ~ ~ AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO): (a) No, Sir. ~ ~ I ~ ~ iii ~ iii lfT\1'T1mf (b) and (c). Do not arise. If\: ~r. ~ 'fi'rt ~ ~

~~ii (3) ~iita~~ am: flmq- ~ q ~ 0lfCTlf 'If 0TftA; 3589. 11ft' ~ "'" mt : ~ II ~ mfl'fID ifiT lI'fm11If I ..t\' ... ~~: LEGISLATION FOR SALE OF SUN-GLASSES !flIT ~ ~ ~ 1!'tr ~ ~i ~r IiTI i~ fif>' : 3590. DR. KARNI SINGH: Will the Minister of HEALTH. FAMIT.Y (if>') !flIT ~ ~ ~ fif>' 7 i~r. PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- LOPMENT be pleased to state : 1 964 '1ft ~~r ~ fmiT ifiT t:tif>' ~ '1fT1: f 3l'llIT 'IT ; (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- ment propose to introduce a Bill in the ("l) ~ 'cR Parliament to control the manufacture and sale of sun-glasses to the public; K.:r oTG 'IT; and ( IT ) ~ ~ ~~rr.

~~i~"~~t-t~~ : KOYNA EARTHQUAKE (iii) ~~ I 3591. DR. KARNI SINGH: Will ~ ~ ~ 22 ~ if; the Minister of IRRIGATION AND ft:rt:t POWER be pleased to state : ('28 ~ 1968 ~ 1!Tm ~ (a) whether it is a fact that a warn- ~ ing was sounded as far back as 1962 by Prof. F. Ahmad. Head of the Goology ~ ~~it~~ Department, A1igarh Muslim Univer- d~c"c~ ~~~ silty. that the Deccan Peninsula <:auld ~ ~ ~ not be treated as a stable land-maas. iIl'iIi', t:tftro contrary to the general belief; ~~~~~~ (b) whether it is also a fact that ;;rRT am ~~ ~ ~. Prof. Ahmad particularly cautioned that .~ 'liT mr ~ I in designing high dams in the Deccan, due allowance must be made for earth- ('if) lRI'fir ~ m '!iT fu'tt quakes; and ittit~~~t~~ (c) if so, whether due notice was ~ f';p;f!l1m: ~:- taken of this warning while planning the Koyna dam? ( 1) IF1mr '!iT ~ "til' ~ magnitude". ~ iiIfIIiI' 'iiflf ~ ~ am (c) The design of the Koyna dam ~~at~:; am was finalised and the dam was largely 13 LSs (CP)/68-7 2875 Wri/len Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Wrillell Answers 2876

completed before the reported state- (b) whether it is also a fact that the ment of Prof. Ahmed. Nevertheless. on grant has been discontinued; the advice of the Geological Survey of India. while designing and constructing (c) when the grant was discontinued the Koyna dam, a provision of 5% of and the reasons for the same; and gravity, which was considered adequate ( d) the steps taken to see that the to withstand the seismic forces as a re- institution has sufficient funds to carry sult of low magnitude earthquakes, was on its activities ? made. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL ~ ~ 1ft," ~ ~ ~ WELFARE (SHRIMATI PHULRENU ~;~ GURA) : (a) The Central Government are not giving any grants to this Insti- 3592. 'IT at~ ~ ~: tution. The Delhi Administration gave am ~ an.m tf'fT ~ ;f;;fT ~ the following grants :- iiffif.f ~ ~; am: cipal Committee has not taken such a decision. (if) a~""cr;:~~ (c) The Delhi Administration discon- # 'fllt ~ ~ ~ 'CI'Wn ~ ~ tinued its grant from 1963-64 on ~""ir ~t~ ~ account of unsatisfactory performance of the institution. The New Delhi ~ t fcror 'fllt ~ ~ "'" Municipal Committee has not paid ~ ? grants to the institution for some years because of the failure of the institution m.ivr, ammI' i'(1{T ~ ~ q to submit accounts or because it had no ~- ('IT tlliim'l' ~ : ~ ~ (if). deficit. ~ ~ If,f m ~ ~ ~ rT

INSTITUTION FOR mE BLIND, PUNCH- SUPPLY OF ELECTRICITY TO ANDHRA KUIN ROAD, NEW DELHI PRADESH 3593. SHRI YASHPAL SINGH: Wll the Minister of SOCIAL WEL- 3594. SHRI G. S. REDDI: Will the FARE be pleased to state: Minisler of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that the Ins- titution for the Blind at Punchkuin (a) the installed capacity of electric Road, New Delhi were receiving !faDts power in the State of Andhra Pradesh of about Rs. 3,550 every year from up to the end of 1967 as compared to Government and the New Delhi Munici- the States of Madras and Mysore and pal Committee; the reasons for the disparity; and 28n Written AlIlwers PUALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Writ/ell Answers 2878

(b) whether there are any existing SuPPLY OF ELECTRICITY TO ANDHRA schemes under consideration for the iIl- PRADESH crease of power in Andhra Pradesh to remove this disparity and the stage at 3595. SHRI G. S. REDDI: Will the which they are pending with the Central Minister of IRRIGATION AND Government? POWER be pleased to state: lEE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (a) whether proposals have been re- AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) ceived from the Andhra Pradesh Gov- The installed generating capacity ill the ernment to buy power from Sharavathy States of Andhra Pradesh, Madras and of Mysore and Neyveli of Madras; and Mysore as at the end of 1967 and the present demands for power in these (b) whether Government have sug- States are given in the Table below :- gested any economical rate agreeable to all in this regard? ---- Installed Peak State capacity Demand THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION MW MW AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) and (b). The Government of Andhra Andhra Pradesh 607 315 Pradesh submitted a proposal to the Government of India for purchasillg Madras 1481 983 about 1

('I» ;re-( mr if ~ ;;mf\"If ~ (b) As explained during the half an hour discussion held on the 29th Nov- it;~ 1965-66, 1966-67orR 1967- ember, 1967, while Government have 68 if ~~ mr.rr g;J f.:ttrn" fiI;lrr every sympathy in the matter, in view of the difficult resources position it is ~; not feasible at present to grant further (til" ) ~ g;J f.I;;f-f.I;;f f;f<:ff ~ ft;pf relief to pensionen;. f.:ttrn" fiI;lrr ~; am: CENTRAL CoMMrrrEE TO LOOK APTER ('1") f.I;;f-f.I;;f ~~ ~ ~ THE WELFARE OF ScHEDULED CASTES q fA 0IJ1i fiI;lrr ~ ? 3600. SHRI NATHU RAM AHlR- WAR: Will the Minister of SOCIAL ~ ~ fif1nq it mq 1hf\' WELFARE be pleased to state : ~ ~~ ~ ("PmT : ('I» ('1"). (a) whether Government propoee to ~r~~i ~ sct up a Central Committee to look 24-6-68 'fiT ~ ~ ~ after the welfare of Scheduled Castes; it;~i~~~i I am: (b) if so, when the Committee is ~ a-~ ~~ orR likely to be set up; and ~ ~~ 1967- (c) its terms of reference? 68 if; ~ ani-

LoAN GIVEN POR PARADI!EP PORT ~~ 3601. SHRI K. P. SINGH DBO: Will the Minister of FINANCE be 3603. .n .0 fifo ~ tm pleased to state : ~ ~"~~~i (a) whether it is a fact that the '1M fit; : Government of Orissa have requested that the loan given for Paradeep Port (if» ;;r;r;fR a~iit~ may be treated as a loan given to the ~:~~ti~~ Port Trust so as to relieve the State Government of the burden of repay- ~~~~~ ment; if ~ ~ SIfumr urn 'PI' ~ ~ Iff (b) the amount of the loan involved vfi; therein; (11) ~ Cftt if ~ ~ wr (e) whether Government have agreed to the request made by the State Gov- ~~;tt~ ~; am ernment; and (If) ~ ~ Cftt if fiR-fiR (d) if not, the reasons therefor? ~.rrat it"M~~ THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER ~ ~ !!1: fifOCfifT wr 0lJ1l' ~ lfiT ~ AND MINISTER OF FINANCE ~ ? (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) No, Sir. ~~trii~ (b) Rs. 15.69 erores. ~ ~r ~ (iii) ;ftrfT an'lr.J{1Il' ~ ~ ~ ~ firIffIT (e) and (d). Do not arise. ~~i ~ ii 3ffu!ccr ii rr lIfT I 1965 ii ~ar~i:rrr~~ NATIONAL BUILDING CoNSTRUCTION .~ T10N ~ii ~ ~ amrlliJlt 3602. SHRI R. BARUA : l!l\' IT{ I SHRI S. R. DAMAN I : (13) l:R if Of'Ilfq it' ~ ~ Will the Minister of WORKS, );1'1<1'; ~ 1!UfT I HOUSING ~ SlJPPLY be pleased if) 'fir gan to state: (IT) truction Corporation in i"~~ :~~~i~ general construction has brought down 'liT ~ if WIT Willf ~~ ~ t I the cost of construction; ~ it' tii;t ~ 'lir SffifTCf ~~ wm (b) whether this concern is taking ~ ; lip any work outside India; and

(c) if so, details thereof? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS. HOUSING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL .~ SINGH) : (a) Yes, in certain speciali,- smTrr qf(1l1"1i113IT lfiT ed fields and areas. qft:;m aiR ~ ~ (b) Not at present. ~ ~ (c) Does not arise. ~;;rr . 32.00 2883 Wrillen Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Wrillen er.~ 2884

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"~ ~it ~rr ~ ftrifilal'l'f<:1rr ~ ~ fil'iT- 3604. "') ~ fq" ~~ : W f'l;'iT ~ 31'R ;;rm- r~ '1fT ~ r;"~~ii~~it;: "i~ ~~ ~~~ar (iii) ~ 'fit -!Chn.; ~ it ~:~r~;;ri ~ii '"'! crt ~ 3f11ift Fcreh:r ~:it ~ 'if'fT '1ft l'fr.mt 'fi1 ~ ~ ~ ~ 'fit 'fU rn ili m:ifil<: fiWo:ft fifilIT ;;rr ifalf rn ili ~ (13 ) ~ l\ilrr 'f.T Ol1ro W ~ am: ~ fum ~ 3TTl:TR-'l!Ci' mer ~ I ~ ~ ifiT ~ ~ srftrmf ;;rif ~ tR ~ ~ arro:'IJ s-{ ~ ~ ifiT fcr;m: ~ ? 500 ~ afR lf6lI'lf ~;t ~ '1ft ;;rr 'f"'T ~ I ~ ~ ~ -a-~ "'" ~ ~~ .nft' ('" ~ f. > "...:. ---":~ ~ lmt) : (iii) 1f1<:O ~ ~"~ q <4 i'iii\ldti "'I ~ ""~ '1+-'11 'fit, ~ ;f.t 'flf! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ rn if; ~ t;fIlf f'4oqd'i

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DELHI HIGH CoURT PREMISES gation in this regard has been conducted and the details of findings? 3607. SHRI S. K. TAPURlAH: SHRI VIRENDRAKUMAR THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHAH: MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUSING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL Will the Minister of WORKS, SINGH) : (a) to (c). Before the shift· HOUSING AND SUPPLY be pleased ing of the Delhi High Coun to the to state: Travancore House, the building did not show any cracks or other signs of weak. (a) whether it· is a fact that ness. Recently, a portion of the ceiling C.P.W.D. has declared the DeIhl High plaster and some half-bricks suddenly Court's present premises at Curzon fell in a verandah. This is not unusual Road, New Delhi as unsafe and has de- in an old structure without proper cided to demolish it; R.C.c. roofing. Further detailed exami- nation has shown that with renewal of (b) whether the building was pro- roof with proper R.C.C. roofing, the perly examined in March, 1967 when building will be fit for occupation for a the Delhi High Court shifted from substantial period. Some portion of the Maulana Azad Road to CulZOn Road; verandah Toof requires immediate re- and placement and some other repairs are also necessary. After these repairs, the (c) if so, how the fitness certificate building will be usable for a number of was then given and whether any investi. years. 2887 Wri/len Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Writ/ell Answers

MAJOR ltuuGATlON PROJECTS OF U.P. NATIONAL BUILDING CoNsnUCTlON CORPORATION 3608. SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO: Will the Minister of IRRIGAnON 3610. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Win AND POWER be pleased to state: the Minister of WORKS, HOUSING, AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: (a) the number of major irrigation schemes which were proposed to be (a) whether it is a fact that the Na- taken up during the Third Plan period tional Building Construction Corporation- in Uttar Pradesh by the Central Gov- is likely to build the new capital of the ernment; Malawi Republic; and (b) the names of the schemes on which the work was taken up; (b) if so, whether the N.B.C.C. has the requisite resources to execute the work properly? (c) the names of the schemes on which the work was taken up and sus- pended due to emergency and some THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE other reasons; and MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUSING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL (d) the names of schemes on which SINGH): (a) and (b). The Minister the work was taken up and altogether for Works. Economic Affairs and Sup- dropped ? ply of the Malawi Republic. during his recent visit to India, mentioned that the THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION '-I.B.C.C. would be welcome to take on AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) works for the construction of the new to (d). Central Government had no Capital of Malawi. This was, however, proposal to take up any major irriga- just a general ob,crvation and the tion scheme in V.P. during the Third matter will be examined on receipt of a Plan period. The State Government formal reference from the Government took up for construction the Gandak of Mabwi. Canal project during this period.

UNDERGROUND CABLES SEPARATE COMMISSIONER OF INCOME- TAX, ORISSA 3611. SHRI S. K TAPVRIAH: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION 3609. SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO: AND POWER be pleased to state: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (a) the present position in regard to the provision of underground cables for (a) whether Government have re- distribution of power in Delhi; and ceived any representation from the dele- gates of the Non-Gazetted Employee's (b) the estimated cost involVed itt Association of Income-tax Department providing underground cables and dis- of Orissa to create a separate Commis- mantelling the overhead cables. sioner of Income-tax for Orissa State; and THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (b) if so, the action Government AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) propose to take in the matter? and (b). In the area covered by New THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER Delhi Municipal Committee, about 160- AND MINISTER OF FINANCE kms of high voltage lines and 1150 kIDs \SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, of medium voltage and low voltage liaes Sir. are laid underground. The estimated cost for replacing the existing overhead HV (b) The matter is under the conside- lines is about Rs. 5 lakhs and for replac- ration of the Government. ing MW and LV lines is Rs. 1.75 crores. 2889 Written Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) WrlUell AlISlIIers 289()

In the area covered by the Delhi LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY) : Elearic Supply Undertaking, all the 33 (a) No. KV feeders to the bulk supply points have been laid underground. A begin- (b ) Does noL arise. ning has been made in using under- ground cables even in low-tension dis- TAX ARREARS DUB PROM CiNEMA tribution of power in the case of new OW.NERs IN Dm.w colonies. Underground feeders are also 3615. SHRI ARJUN SINGH ~ being laid as far as possible in the city DORIA: Will the Minister of FIN- area and in the new colonies. The esti- ANCE be pleased to state : mated cost of replacing the existing 11 KV overhead lines by underground (a) the amount of tax arrears due cables will be about Rs. 6 crores and from the cinema owners in Delhi during for replacing medium voltage and low the last three years with their names voltage overhead lines by underground and the steps taken for its realization; cables would be about Rs. 14 crores. (b) whether there has been any com- DISPLACEIl MEDICAl. LICENTIATES FROM plaints of tax evasion against these EAST PAKISTAN cinema owners; and (c) if so, the steps taken by Gov- 3614. SHRIMATI JYOTSNA ernment in this regard? CHANDA: Will the Minister of HEALTH. FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT be THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER pleased to state: AND MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MORARJI DESAI) : (a) . The (a) whdhcr Government propose to requisite information is given in the :Iumit the uisplaceu Medical Licentiates attached statement. from Pakistan into the condemed Ea.,t (b) ai~ have been received M.B.B.S. Course in future exempting in the casc·.; of Odeon Cinema. Laxmi the har of I.Sc. examination; and Palace Cinema and Radhu Talkies. (h) if ,0, from when? (e) On investigation. the allegations THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE made against Radhu Talkies were found MINISI'RY OF HEALTH. FAMILY to be baseless. In the other two cases ('LANNING AND URBAN DEVE- the investigations are in progress. Statement -.---...-- .. ---.-.------c- Nam" of the Cinl'ma Amount of the tex due as no Step taken for o .....';-·H'c. ------realisation 1.4.1965 1.4.1966 \.4.1967 Palace Cilwma. Nil Nil Rs. 1.30.371 The demand has been sta- yrd till the disposal of appeal. Radhu Talkies. Nil Nil Rs. 1.000 Th" demand is under recovery and is expected to be collectec in this month. Laxmi Palace Nil Nil Rs.4,339 The amount has since been paid -_.. ------..-:..-~~-~--:- RECONSTRUCTION OF NEW QUARTERS IN (a) whether It is a fact that the Dlz. "1':0 MINTO RO,\D AREAS IN NEW scheme for the replacement of the old DELHI and outdated Government quarters in the D.I.Z. and Minto Road areas in 3616. SHRI HIMATSINGKA: New Delhi by demolishing the old ODes SHRI M. L. SONDHI : and reconstructing new ones has been Will the Minister of WORKS, dropped or shelved; HOUSING AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: (h) if so, the reasons therefor; 2891 Writ/en Answers MARCH 11, 1968 Written Answers 2892

(c) whether a number of such old (2) General Manager, Korba Pro- quarters are still lying vacant and un- ject, Bharat Aluminium Com- used; pany Ltd. (d) whether there is a proposal to (3) Financial Adviser, Koyna Project, reallot the.e old and serviceable quar- Bharat Aluminium Company ters to bona fide Government servants Ltd. after necessary repairs during the period till the scheme is again taken up for re- ( 4) Financial Adviser, Korha Pro- construction of new quarters; and ject, Bharat Aluminium Company Ltd. (e) if so, the steps taken in this re- gard? (5) Financial Adviser, Hindustan Copper Ltd. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN (6) General Manager, Uranium Cor_ THE MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUS- poration of India Ltd. ING AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL SINGH) : (a) to (el. The Minto Road (7) Chairman, Hindustan Steel Ltd. and the D.l.Z. areas are to be redeve- loped in accordance with the zonal plans (8) General Manager, Rourkela Plant of the Delhi Development Authority. Hindustan Steel Ltd. Construction of residential units for (9) Project Administrator, Synthetic Government employees in the areas ear- Drugs Project, Indian Drugs & marked for the purpose is expected to harac~tica Ltd. commence in the next financial year. (10) Executive Director, National Re- Quarters declared dangerous or need- search Development Corporation ing heavy repairs or in the areas allott- of India. ed for schools, institutions, ctc., are (II) Managing Director, National In- being demolished. In other quarters, in struments Ltd. the areas not to be taken up for redeve- lopment in the near future, minor re- (12) General Manager, Foundry Forge pairs are being carried out to keep them r~ct Heavy Engineering Cor- going for a few years. poration Ltd. (13) General Manager, Bangalore POSTs VACANT IN PuBLIC UNDERTAKINGS Unit, Hindustan Machine Tools Ltd. 3617. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will (14) General Manager, Kalamassery the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Unit, Hindustan Machine Tools Ltd. (a) whether it is a fact that dozens of Of the above, the posts eti"~d at top posts in Public Sector Undertakings Serial Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 are new are vacant and are not being filled up for the last couple of months; and posts sanctioned, which will be filled for the first time. The posts at Serial Nos. (b) if so, the list of vacant posts and 7 and 8 are lying vacant since 7-12-67. the date from which these have fallen The post at Serial No. 9 is vacant since vacant with reasons therefor? April, 1966. The post at Serial No. 10 is lying vacant since 31-8-1966 as it was THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER considered necessary to revise the scale AND MINISTER OF FINANCE of pay of this post, having regard to in- (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and creased responsibilities, etc.; a decision (b). The following top posts in Public has now been taken on this question and Enterprises are now vacant :- the post is likely to be filled shortly. In respect of the post at Serial No. 11, the (I) General Manager, Koyna Project, previous incumbent retired in November, Bharat Aluminium Company 1967. The post at Serial No. 12 fell Ltd. vacant on 1-11-1967, when the previous 2893 Written Answers PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Wrillen Answers 2894

incumbent was selected for another top Year Plan will take into account a por- post. The posts at Serial Nos. 13 and tion of the requirements of drinking 14 are lying vacant from 1-4-1966 and water. 26-12-1967 respectively, though the per- sons next in seniority are discharging the HIGliER EDUCATION FOR ScHI!DULED functions as loint General Managers of CASTES AND ScHEDULED TRmIlS the Plants. MANIPUll For ail the vaC'aIlt posts, suitable in- 3619. SHRI MEGHACHANDRA: cumbents have been selected or are being Will the Minister of SOCIAL WEL- selected having regard to the nature of FARE b~ pleased to state: experience required, etc. (a) the amount allocated in the year 1967-68 for higher education of students PROVISION OF PURE DRINKING WATER belonging to the scheduled tribes and scheduled castes in Manipur; aDd 3618. SHR! R. K. AMIN: Will the . Minister of HEALm, FAMILY PLAN- (h 1 the actual amount spent so far NING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT during the year 1967-68? be pleaS"'...d to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN mE (a) the percentage of population in DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL WEL- India which get pure drinking water; FARE (SHRIMATI PHULRBNU GUHAl: (a) and (h) Rs. Six lakhs; (h) the estimate of cost of providing howevcr. regardless of this ceiling, all purc drinking water to almost entire po- eligihle stUdents will be given scbolar- pUlation; and ships. The accounts are maintained on (c) whether Government have drawn a bi-annual basis. It is anticipated that up any plant to provide this essential approximately 95% of the amount allo- amenity within a period of five years ? cated will be utilised during the current financial year. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY INCOME-TAX ARREARS IN MANIPUll PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY) : 3620. SHRI M. MEGHACHANDRA: {a) About 60% of the total urban po- Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleas- pulation in India have been provided ed to state: with safe drinking water. In the rural areas safe drinking water is available to (a) the amount of Incoml>-!aX arrears over 50% of the total population Iivng still under recovery proceedings from the in easy areas, and about 3.3% of the Union Territory of Manipur before its population living in difficult and scarcity merger into the Indian Uuion in the year areas. 1949.

(b) The estimated cost of providing (b) wbether it is a fact that notices the remaining urban population with for recovery of the said dues were is- their minimum requirements of water sued after a long lapse of nearly 20 supply and sewerage facilities would be years; and of the order of Rs. 1,000 crores. Simi- (c) if so, tbe grounds of validity for larly, on a rough assessment, it is esti- such recovery proceedings under the law mated that a sum of Rs. 732 crores and the reasOII for tbe long delay in the would be required to cover the whole recovery proceedings ? rural population with a minimum safe water supply. mE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI (c) Considering the limited financial MORARJI DESAI): (a) to (c). The resources available for this purpose the requisite information is being collected problem CRn ooly be solVed aD a long- and will be laid on the Table of the term basis. However, the Fourth Five House as early as possible. 2895 Writ/en Answers MARCH II, 1968 Written Answer.. 2896·

CaNn.u. ARREARs DUE TO MADRAS FORCED VASECTOMY OPERAnON CoRPORAnON FORCED VASECTOMY OPERAnON 3621. SHRI NANJA GOWDER . 3623, SHRI C. K. BHATTACHAR- SHRI MURASOLI MARAN: YYA: SHRI KIRUTI1NAN : SHRI SAMAR GURA: Will the Minister of WORKS. HOU- SING AND SUPPLY be pli!ased to Will the Minister of HEALTH, FA- staaB-: ' . MILY PLANNING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state; (a) whether it is a fact that arrears amounting to Rs. 22.58 lakhs are due (u) whether forced vasectomy opera- from the departments of the Central tion "'as performed on a 15 year old Government to thi! Madras Corporation hoy. Bablu Dey, in West Bengal; since 1954-55; and (a) whether the State Health Depart- (b) if so. the reason for thi! non- ment has found the operation done in- payment of civic tax for such a long a number of similar cases in some of time? which the boys were newly married; mE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (c) whether it is a fact that when the MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUSING above boy was taken to hospital for re- AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL pairing the injury, the hospital declared SINGH) : (a) and (b). The information the injury to be irreparable; and is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Home. ( d) the steps taken to saVe people from their lives being ruined in this way? STIJDY OF FAMILY PLANNING PRoGRAM- ME IN THE CO:-lTEXT OF THE DECLINE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE JAPANESE POPULATION MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- 3622. SHRI C. K. BHATIACHARY- LOPMENT (DR. S. CHANDRASEK- YA; Will the Minister of HEALTH. HAR) : (a) and (b). Full facts in the FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN matter have heen called for from the DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: State Government. The information will In placed on the table of the Sabha as (a) whether Government's attention has been drawn to tbe report recently is- 50011 '" received. sued by the Demographic Research Insti- Vasectomy operation programme in tute of the Welfare Ministry of Japan the cOllntry is 011 a voluntary basis. that because of birth control, Japan's population growth has gone low and (c) Recanalisation operations have harmful consequences are becoming ap- been organised in 28 centres in the COUll- parent as a result of the low rate of po- try. pulation growth; and (d) Strict instructions have already (b) if so, whether Government pro- b= issued to all the State Governments posed to study the findings of the report in this respect. of the Institute in the context of their f:tlnily planning programme? HEART TRANSPLANTATION OPERATION IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE BOMBAY MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- 3624. SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH ; LOPMENT (DR. S. CHANDRASEK- SHRI BEN I SHANKER HAR): (a) No. Government have not SHARMA: received any copy of this report so far. Will the Minister of HEALTH, FA- (b) When the report is received. Govt. MIL Y PLANNING AND URBAN DE- will certainly consider it. VELOPMENT be pleased to stale: :2897 Writ/en Answers PHALGUNA 21. 1889 (SAKA) Wrirten Answm 2898

(a) whether a heart transplantation (iT) ~ Sf'IiR Am ~ if f-Ir;r operation was carried out in Bombay ~ '1ft ~ ~ A'it hospital recently; ;r t' ~ ~ if "" iflIT ? (b) if so. whether it was a success; t and ~~"~ ~ 1l (c) whether Government are consi- ~.:-r ~~~ : ('r.!' i' ~ if flI;cf.t srfumf "Ufi1r lfr; Ijt i~ ~ ;;r'fiIT am: (iT) ~ m.rr f.rn iIfN-lfIT .- 3625. ~... ~ : ~ i~~ ~ ~ .. ~ ~ : iflIT ~ ifTIfm "'" ~ ~ ~ amrm", '!,fif t:f

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3A;ft mr ~ ~ ~ ~ 663 mr pad, Kathana, Nawagam, Kalol and Sa- nand structures of Gujarat State and ~ ~ ~ • "I1ftq) iIi1 an;ic;:r iff Rudrasagar and Lakwa structures of ~ Assam was made.

EXPLORATION OF OIL ACCOMMODATION FOR WORICING G~ IN DELHI 3628. SHRI D. N. PATODIA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 3629. SHRI K. ANIRUDHAN: CHEMICALS be pleased to state : SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH: SHRI DEVEN SEN: (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- SHRI R. BARUA : ment have finalised a scheme for explo- SHRI D. R. PARMAR : ration of oil in some of the States; SHRI N. SREEKANTAN (b) if so, the names of the States NAIR: which have been included in the scheme SHRI KIKAR SINGH: and when the work will be taken in SHRI NARENDRA SINGH hand; and MAHIDA: (c) the achievements during 196&67 SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: out of the drillings conducted in the di1f- SHRI MOHAN SWARUP: crent parts of the country for oil? Will the Minister of WORKS, HOUS- ING AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a) whether it is a fact that large CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL WEL- number of working girls in Delhi are fARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH): without accommodation; (a) 1be Oil and Natural Gas Commis- sion has approved the programme of (b) whether they have submitted any work for geological and geopbysical sur- representation to Government for the \'eys in different States for the 1967-68 allotment of Curzon Road flats after tbe field season and drilling programme for L'NCTAD Conference; and 1968-69, (c) if so, the decision taken there- on? (b) Jammu & Kashmir, Punjab, Hi- michal Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Madras, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Nagaland, Pondicherry, Tripura, Assam, MINISTRY OF WORKS, HOUSING Gujarat, Rajasthan, West Bengal, Oris- AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL sa and Andhra Pradesh. SINGH): (a) The general pool accom- modation under the control of the Di- Drilling operations are currently in rectorate of Estates is for allotment to progress in the States of Madras, Guja- eligible Government employees both rat, West Bengal aDd Assam and will male and female and as such no applica- continue during 1968-69 also. tions for allotment of residential accom- In Jolmmu and Kashmir and Uttar modation in the general pool are called Pradesh also drilling will be undertaken tor from non-eligible persons/working during 1968-69. In the remaining areas, girls etc. There is no statistical data the drilling will be conducted if and available about the number of working when geological and geopbysical sUI'Veys girls in Delhi who are without accom- indicate potential oil or gas bearing struc- modation. tures. (b) Yes (c) As a result of drilling in the dif- (c) The manner in which the accom- f crent parts of the country, during 1966- modation available in the Curzon Road 67 oil was discovered in Dboika, Ah- Hostel is to be utilised, after the UNC- medabad, Mebsana and Kadi structures TAD Conference, is receiving attention. cf Gujarat State while further delinea- This is not likely to be available for wor- tion of oil and gas bearing parts of 01- king girls as such. 2903 Writ/en Answel'6 MARCH 11, 1968 Written Answers 2904

HEAD OFFICE OF THE HALDIA REFINElI.Y ~~~~.r 3630. SHRIMATI UMA ROY: Will ~ ~~ :- (iii) o/R (_). the Minister of PETROLEUM AND flf1fT1T iii mr;;IT ~ ~ srrqr ~ 'CHEMICALS be pleased to state : ~ ~ ;t;t~:- (a) whether the Head Office of the Haldia Refinery has been set up at New Delhi; and ~ wm '!'if (b) if so, the considerations which ~ii~~ favoured the selection of New Delhi as the location of an Office which will con- '!f'6'lrt ~ iIi trol a project more than thousand miles away from New Delhi; and (c) the reasons for not having the office at Calcutta or any other place in 1963-64 92513 25898 118411 West Bengal ? (-- (iT ) i~ 0Jir0'i ~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN mE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (omsft' if) AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH): (a) No. Execution of Haldia Refinery project has been en- trusted to the Refineries Division of Indian Oil Corporation Limited, which 1965-66 45.71 33.31 is located at New Delhi-Office of the 1966-67 50.67 17.74 'General Manager, Haldia Refinery win, ----_._------in due course, be located at Haldia. (b) and (C). Do nO( arise. (fI') ~iiWit a~ ~ ii11Wit it; ~ ~ 'lit ~ ar~~~~ 3f1'1f: SIfu" oN amrr ~ ~; ~ ~ If<: .~ iI; ~i IJ) W~~ .~:~ , 3631. lItr ~: wmrr: IRT FERTILIZER PUNTS ~ ~ QT ~ ~ 'liT !i'lT ~ fif;: 3632. SHRI VIRENDRA KUMAR SHAH: Will the Minister of PETllO- (lfi) ~ if 1962 ~ 1968 if 3tiI' LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased ~ ~ ii11Wit, ~ ~ to state : ~ am: ~ w it; f

(c) whether coal based fertilizer (b) The Planning and Development plants can manufacture Urea, at least 20 Division has undertaken Pilot Plant per cent cheaper; and trials for the production of phosphatic fertilizers eliminating the use of sulphur. (d) if so, the reasons for importing liquid ammonia for fertilizer plants? MAHI IRRIGATION PROJECT, RAJASTHAN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM 3634. SHRI D. N. PATODIA: Will AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL the Minister of IRRIGATION AND WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU POWER be pleased to state: RAMAJAH) : (a) Yes, Sir. But the (a) whether it is a fact that eVeD capital investment required for a plant though the Central Government had based on fuel oil or L.S.H.S. is higher approved the Mahi Irrigation Project than for a naphtha based plant. Opera- (Rajasthan) in 1958, the Planning Com. ting cost will also be greater. mission have not accorded its approval despite repeated requests from the (b) Some temporary difficulties are Government of Rajasthan; being faced by the Indian Oil Corpora- tion in the disposal of LSHS. These are, (b) if so, the factors responsible for however, being overcome. The produc- delay in its approval; and tion of LSHS by 1970-71 is estimated at just under 2 million tonnes and a (c) the stage at which the proposa, good proportion of it is likely to be rests at present? used for power generation. THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (c) No, Sir. AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) The project approved in 1958 was a (d) As explained in the Statement medium irrigation scheme costiDg laid on the Table of the HOUSe on Rs. 308.76 lakhs only. The project now 20-2-1968, the import of liquid ammonia under consideration is estimated to cost for a limited period has been allowed in about Rs. 30 crores. one case on a selective basis in consider- (b) and (e). In the best interests of ation of its merits. This has been done in view of the overall requirements of the Mahi river development it was con- fertilizers during the next 7 or 8 years. sidered necessary to change the storage capacity of the reservoir to a much larger amount than proposed earlier. FERTILIZER PLANTS The project has, therefore, been changed from a diversion scheme to a multi- 3633. SHRI VIRENDRA KUMAR purpose scheme costing about Rs. 30 SHAH: Will the Minister of PETRO- crores and benefiting Gujarat also in LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased addition to Rajasthan. to state: The project in its present form has (a) whether the Trombay Unit of the been technically cleared by the Advisory Fertilizer Corporation of India has Committee on Irrigation, Flood Control develop"..d a process which eliminates and Power Projects. The approval of the Use of sulphur; and the project by the Planning Commission has, however, been held up due to con- (b) whether the Planning and Deve- straint on resources. lopment Division of Fertilizer Corpor- ation of India has oriented its own Research and Development Programme ALLOWANCES TO MANIPUR EMPLOYEES on the above basis? 3635. SHRI M. MEGHACHAN· DRA: Will the Minister of HEALTH, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN FAMILY PLANNING AND URBAN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : AND CHEMICALS AND OF SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI RAGHU (a) whether Government have reo RAMAIAH) : (a) No, Sir. ceived request from the Government of L/MI3LSS(CP)/68-8 2907 WriUen. Answers MARCH 11. 1968 COIl.flilUliofUll Crisis in 29()8 Punjab (C.A.) [Shri M. Meghachandral h~ Government of U.P. have also Manipur for the grant of sanction of appointed an Enquiry Committee to en- Messing allowance, Uniform allowance, quire into the breach in the Nanaksagar Dhobi allowance to the nursing staft and dam. Thc report of the Committee is also to the Training staff since the above awaited. allowances are,lll'lll1ted now to their counterparts in Assam and since they U.16 Mrs. enjoyed the said allowance in the past also; and CALLING ATfENTION TO MAT- TER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPOR- (b) if so. the decision taken thereon? TANCE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY ~~ CRISIS IN PUNJAB PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY) : SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH (a) and (b). The request of the Govern- (Nandynl) ; I call the attention of the ment of Manipur is under examination. Minister of Home Affairs to the foUow- ing mutter of urgent public importance DEATHS DUE TO FLOODS IN DELHI AND and I request that he may make a state- U.P. ment thereon: 3636. SHRI DEVEN SEN: Will the "h~ comtitutionul crisis in Punjab Minister of IRRIGATION AND uri,ing out of the ubrupt adjournment POWER be pleased to state: of the Lcu,islative Assembly." (a) the total number of deaths due to floods in 1967 in Delhi and U.P.; THE M~ OF HOME AFFAIR<; (SHRI Y. B. CHAVAN) ; (b) whether Government have made We under,t"nd from the State Govern- any investigation into the causes of ment that the Spc:lkcr has adjourned floods; amI tho.! CUTTent Budget ~c~i of the Punjab (c) if not, the results thereof '! Legislative A"cmhly on March 7, 1968 for a period of two months. This deci- THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION sion of the Spe"ker came in the wake AND POWER (DR. K. L. RAO) : (a) of earlicr proceedings in the House 230 in Uttar Pradesh and 9 in Delhi. arising out of a discussion relating to (b) and (c). The flood situation in motion, of no-confidence against the 1967 in the areas served by the Inter- Speaker. The Speaker is also reported State Drainage Systems of Haryana. to ha\c ruled the two motions of no- U.P., Rajasthan and Delhi. was examin· confidence as unconstitutional. In a ed, ;;1 detail, by the technical officers of subsequent statement to the Press, the the States and later. by the Ministers of Speaker has explained the rea.~ for the conC'Crned States and proposals fina- adjourning the House. The situation lised for improvement of Ujjina-Pahari arising out of the Speaker's decision to Kaman-Goverdhan Drain; improvement adjourn the House is being examined by of Gaunchi Drain; construction of the State Government and the Governor Sahibi Nadi Dam; and improvements to of Punian. I hoPe it would be possible Najafgarh and Mangeshpur Drains. to find a way out so that the Assembly is ina po<;ition to transact its urgent A Consultant of the Ministry of Irri- financial husiness. . gation and Power has also been request- ed to make a thorough study of the SHRI HEM BARUA (Mangaldai): flood control works in Delhi and recom- These Speakers have become autocrats. mend ec~ar additional measures. His report is expected shortly. SHRI J. B. KRIPALANI (Guna): This is a comprehensive question. May The performance of the protective I sulHnit that you allot some time to works along the Gandak River during discuss it? the 1967 floods were examined by the Chitauni Committee and recommenda- MR. SPEAKER; You can make the tions for further works made. e.~ti later. 2909 ConstitU/iOfUll PHALOUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) Crisis ill Pllnjab 2910 (C.A.)

SHRI P. ~: SHRI Y. B. CHAVAN : ~ for the By adjourning the HOUSe on 1Iimsy and views expressed. I have nothing to say irrelevaat grounds when a no-coafidence because Government do not propose to motion against him had been admitted, express any views on what happened in the Punjab Speaker has gone beyond his the Punjab leaislature. I cannot giw counterpart in West Bengal, and this any assurance because as I said the action of the Punjab Speaker is doubly Governor and the State Government lire distressing in view of the fact that in trying to find out a way and I do not Dec:embe1' last he wisely refrained from Ihink that we can say that there is a following the West Bengal Speaker's constitutional deadlock. dubious example. This action of the Speaker seems to be pre·meditated with SHRI CHENGALRAY A NAIDU the connivance of the opposition parties. (Chittoor): Government did not ·take prompt measures when the Speaker of West Bengal adjourned the House sine MR. SPEAKER: You want to finish die. Because the Government was tak- the di3Cussion now itself? I thought you had also asked for a discussion and ing a lenient view over the matter, I think every Speaker is more interested therefore the speech prepared today may be made then. in adjourning the House to avoid a no- confidence motion against him. Will the Government consider taking prompt SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: action against the Speaker by calling the am only elahorating my point. House and asking the Deputy-Speaker to preside and allow the members to Tnc Speakcr's ruling the next day a~ a no-confidence motion against the rulim; oul the admission of the no-eonfi- Speaker '. Fourteen days notice was. dec~ motion against him as unconstitu- required: the Speaker allowed the mo- tionai i., ~ pre-meditatcd one. This has tion to be moved in the House; in a been ~" demonstrated by the state- house of 102, 56 members stood up to ment i,,,ued by Sant Fatch Singh and 'upport that motion. If the Speaker bad the "".. Justice Gurnam any sense. he should have resigned im- Singh. Nobody will be sorry if the mediately and asked the Dcputy·Speaker prese'lt ministry is thrown out by con- 10 occupy the chair. Instead of doing titt~a means. but this undemocratic this. the Speaker had adjourned the attitude of the Speaker in throttling the Hous-:: to avoid the no-confidence mo- democroltie functioning of the Assembly tion on Ihe flimsy ground that members is a great challenge and danger to de- want to attend to the harvest of crops. mocracy. This adjournment ha.~ been If Ihis is the way assembJie .• function. it done OIl the eve of the hudget session is a mockery of democracy. Will the when the budget has to be passed. He Government advise the Governor 10 has uid that hc adjourned the House to dismiss the Speaker or if there is no faciJit:lte members to attend the harvest provision in the Constitution for this season. There is an interesting cartoon will the Government amend the Constl- in Hi"dll.• tan Time.• where it is stated. lution to dismiss the Speaker? "My <;on is gaing abroad. we will adjourn for two weeks". May I know SHRI Y. B. CHAVAN : There is no whether this Government will assure queslion of advising any Governor to this House that the people of Punjab dismiss anybody. I have nothing to add will not be treated in this way and that to what I have already said. the ooemal functioning of the legislative a~"r will not be paralysed because SHRI D. R. PARMAR (Patan): In of the undemocratic attitude of the view of the extra-conventional manner Spealer'? May I know whether they in whieh the ministeriaJist sections ID will take recourse to article 365 and Punjab Assembly have tabled a no-con- suspend the legislature, not dissolve it fidence motion againSt the Speaker just and make amendments in the rules of hefore the momentous budget discus- procedure to ensure proper and demo- sions were to be started and the cratic functioning of the ministry? ~trctie adjournment of the Assembly 2911 Constitutional MARCH 11, 1968 Crl8i.r in Pllniab 2912 (C.A.) [Shri D. R. Parmar] in danger, and we do not know where for a prolonged period of two months, it will lead to. When Assemblies are thus disabling the Assembly to discharge adjourned and locked up and they go, its most important function of discuss- I do not know where the country will ing and passing the budget-so contrary go. Therefore, it is a matter where to the Speaker's sacred duty of help- everyone is concerned. I will have to ing the Assembly to perform such an consult the leaders, and then fix up II inescapable duty-is the Government lime: perhaps a couple of hours. We prepared to devise some constitutional take a serious note of this. remedies to prevent such an obstructive and unparliamentary activities by partie.> SHRI S. KANDAPPAN (Mettur): and Speakers in legislat;ve assemblies? Before we discuss it, it would be betteI if they give us a note as to the reaction SHRI Y. B. CHAVAN: I said that of the Central Government on the th(;TO were certain constitutional and matter. legal aspects of the problem. The ad- visers of Punjab Government were in ~ i~ mt'f Tit (fw;ft ~ : Delhi and they diSCUSSed some aspects. ~~~i;~~ that is all that I can say; I have no more information. ~~~~ ~ar~i; ~ 'ill ~ ~. ~ ;;r;;tt;~ SHRI KlKAR SINGH (Bhatinda) : - -Mr. Speaker, I want to tell the House am: ~ ~ r~ ~ ~ ~ through you that Punjab problem is ~~~~~r~ bimilar to the Bengal one. As President's rule was promulgated in Bengal, MR. SPEAKER: You are making a Governor's rule be promulgated in long speech again. Punjab and mid-term poll be ordered so that people of Punjab get an opportu- SHRI BAL RAJ MADHOK (South nity to express as to what they want. Delhi) : Sir, I am thankful to you fOI The Punjab Speaker has done a right having agreed that there should be a thine. separate dic~ on this matter. But what I want to submit is this. Consti- MR. SPEAKER: The Calling Atten- tutionally, of course. the Home Minister tion is over. Before I proceed further- is right when he says that be is nobody to advise the Governor. But the world SHRI A. S. SAIGAL rose- knows who advises and who work on MR. SPEAKER: I will can you hi:; advice. Therefore. he should advise again, Mr. Saigal. I am. on my legs the Governor there that he should not now. The Speaker gets precedence over dabble in the party politics of Punjab everybody. J just wanted to say that it aod play the role only of a constitutional i~ a very serious matter; there is no Go"ernor. (Interruption). doubt about it. Therefore, I think that SHRI Y. B. CHAVAN : The Gover- ju.t three or four Members putting nor himself has made it very clear questions through a Call Attention yesterday. What was broadcast over the NotiCe will not do. I would like the radio was that he is not going into the leaders and others to be associated with various political aspects of it. But he tlus and see what could be done, and is certainly looking into the constitu- Itow we shall proceed. It is a serious tional aspect of the problem. He has matter about which I am. distressed. himself made it very clear that he is not lherefore. I would like to allow a dis- concerned with the political aspects. cu':sion. It will be allowed of course only after I consult the leaders and 11ft' ~ <:0 ~ ~ : ~ fix up a convenient time. I think we ~ ~ ~ if; ~ ~ (:!'AT must have one or two hours to discuss am tbis matter. Otherwise, democracy is ~~ ...... ------"Translation of the remarks made in Punjabi. 2913 ComtitUlional PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SA.KA) Crisis in Punjab 2914 (C.A.) MR. SPEAKER: I am giving two t;~~a:~~~ hours for the discussion. You cannot ~~ia~ ~ ~ ~i discuss it now. Otherw se it will end in confusion. ~ ~ '«IT ~ f<;pf t I ~ ~~~ ''IT "0 mo ~ ~ : ~ ~ iro ~ arrq; MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. I am m not allowing any more discussion on this ~ ft;m iiIl<1 I ~ f1:R;r 1IiT :;;ft ~ now. I would request hon. Members ~ ~ I!fT m:Ai't am it ~ f.l;In to reserve their arguments for that day when I will be allowing a discussion on I ~ ~ ~ if it mm.r .it aru this. 179 if; 'I1i mo ...,. m:q; am ltiT ~ fu:Iro ~ ~ ;;ftf1t; l"l' 1IlfiR: ~ : 11ft Iro ~ lI1ri: ~ ~ 'ri ~ ~ if ~ fifuTlf 'f if, ~ ~ if "Provided that no resolution for the purpose of clause (c) shall be moved a~~~~~~r unless at least 14 days notice has been given of the intention to move the MR. SPEAKER: Will the hon. resolution." Member kindly resume his seat? This is a serious matler. I do not want any hon. Member to take it lightly. It may 'flU ~ ~ ..rr ~i;~ be Punjab today, yesterday it was Bcngal ~ ~~ it 'mI' 14 ~ ltiT ~ and tomorrow it may be some other o:rr? ~~~~r State. I do not want hon. Members to take it on. party lines. Tomorrow any- 'fiT am<: ~ f {lIT ~ ffi ;orr ani<: ..rr ~ thing may happen anywhere. We will ~~~a;r.a;:~ fix up some time as quickly as possible. I am sure the Government also will help ~ in this matter. MR. SPEAKER: He is questioning Lct us proceed with the business be- my authority for admitting it. Whether fore the House. I have authority or not. something has hapPe11cd and I have admitted it. 11ft ~ tT'f1 m' ~ : ~ "l) 'lit;R 1fT ~ : ~ ~ ltu ~ 3fT1n ani<: ~ I ~ ""~~~~ ~i~t ~"G 'P1 l;r mmrr ~-~..rr~~ ~ SHRI P. ~: ~ 3fI"l' ~ iR: I 'flU MR. SPEAKER: Do you want to • ~ ~ ~ 'l':iITif

(.... 11)')./) ~ .;a~ \Sr] Customs Act, 1962 and 38 of the Cent- ral Excises and Salt Act, 19144 ;- ~~ If-"" - G.-,).n- ~~ (i) The Customs and Central Ex- ~~ ~ oS h-I -.e... )S} ...iT cise Duties Export Drawback L (" c- 1 .. --s;:,1 .. (General) Twenty-fourth rr ~ ~ y - -..F' IJ'.Y- Amendment Rules, ) 968, pub- .~ ...iT .r.-- G.-1j.!1 r~ JJI ..r.l lished in Notification No . G.S.R. 403 in Gazette of India "~ ~ ~ - J:..-I;T .!..;"..1"l)4. dated the 2nd March, 1968. :"::.-~ )JI ~ OJ .s- L L;"J ~ (ii) The Customs and Central Ex- cise Duties Export Drawback ~ - L :~ ~ 5 ~i S (General) Twenty-fifth Amend- ment Rules, 1968, publisbed ..f..) -..r. ) ~ .jt).,:;- h-I in Notification No. G.S.R. 404 in Gazette of India dated 0.,...... 1 W-.s- .d L.'; JY- ..r.l ..,-1 'iT the 2nd March, 1968 . .1..1- J .:r:-:JY. ~ ~-:-.:;:... yl d. (iii) The Customs and Central Ex- "" cise Duties Export Drakback ~ y ~ ~ £.. c..-- (General) Twent}'-sixth , ~ ..) , ~.:.::::- Amendment Rules, 1968, pub- ~ ~ ~ ....~ ~-- lished in NotifiCation No. if ..,-1 d. u_h...;1 L,S- - .; - SJ) G.S.R. 405 in Gazette of India dated the 2nd March. 1968. -4 ~~ ..r.-..-' ')l..,oi; y- ....~ -= (iv) The Customs and Central Ex- .jY- 'iT .10- L J>r -= 'iT s.r. cise Duties Export Drawback (General) Twenl}'-seventh ~- .r.-- LI j!1 oS ~~ S.:J)J Amendment Rules, 1968, pub- -" liSohed in Notification No. JJI l-,! I 4: .,J- _0 1 5 ~.; 0 G.S.R. 406 in Gazette of India - dated the 2nd March, 1968. ~ ,-'¢.";,...J ~ ...~ ~. .)1 W- l- 4.i (v) The Customs and ~tra Ex- cise Duties Export Drawback (General) Twenty-eighth MR. SPEAKER; We have already Amendment Rules, 1968, pub- gone on to the next item. We are not lished in Notification No. going back to 'Punjab' now. The hon. G.S.R. 407 in Gazette of India Member may resume his seat. dated the 2nd March, 1968. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-40S/68] 12.32 Hrs. (2) A copy each of the following PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE Notifications under section 1 S9 of the Customs Act, 1962 :- NOTIFICATIONS UNDBR Cl!NTRAL EXCISES AND SALT ACT AND NOTIFICATIONS (i) G.S.R. 365 published in UNDER CUSTOMS Acr Gazette of India dated the 24th February, 1968. 1HE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (ii) O.S.R. 366 publisbcd in K. C. PANT): I beg to lay on the Gazette of India dated the Tabl __ 24th February, 1968.

(1) A copy eaoh of the following [Placed in Library. See No. Notifications WIder section .1 59 of the LT-390/68] 2917 Papers Laid PHALGUNA 21. 1889 (SAKA) (In t& tQb& 2918

ANNUAL REPORT OF NOTIFICATIONS UNDER DRUGS ,\ND LIMITED AND GoVERSMENT RE\"IEW CoSMETICS ACT THEREON THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN MINISTRY OF HEALTH, FAMILY THE DEl> ARTMENT OF SOCIAL PLANNING AND URBAN DEVE- WELFARE (SHRIMATl PHULRENU LOPMENT (SHRI B. S. MURTHY): GUHA): Sir. on behalf of Sbri Raghu- Sir, I heg to re-Iay on the Tahle a COpy ramaiab, I beg to lay on the Table- each of the "following Notifications under sub-section (3) of -section 33 of the ( I) Review by the Government on Drugs and Cosmetics Act, 1940:- the working of the Engineers ( 1) The Drugs and eic.~ India Limited, New Delhi, (First Amendment) Rules for the year 1%6-67. under 1967. published in Notification sub-section (1) of seclion 619 No. S.O. 2369 in Gazette of A of Ihe Companies Act, India dated the 15th July, 1956. 1967. ( 2) A copy of the Annual Report (2) The Drugs and etic~ of the Engineers India Limil- ed, New Delhi. for the year (Second Amendment) RuICII, 1%6-67, along with the Audit- 1967. published in Notification No. S.O. 2405 in Gazette of ed Accounts and the comments India dated the 22nd July, of the Comptroller and Audi- 1%7. lor General thereon. [Placed in Library. Sec No. Lt--4061 (Placed in Library. See No. 68] LT-1793/67,]

OROI1 RELATIO'" TO THE STA Til OF WLST BENGAL JOINT COMMITtEE ON OFFICES OF PROFIT THE DEPL'TY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS. HOUSING SECOND REPORT AND SUPPLY (SHRI IQBAL SHRI RANE (Buldana): Sir, 1 SI]\;GH): Sir. on heo!Jalf of Shri Vidva heg te> present t he Second Report of the Charan Shukla, I beg to lay on the Joint Commillee on Offices of Profit. Table a copy each of the following Ordinances under article 213(2) (a) of the C-<>nstitution read with clause (c) (iv) 12.34 IIrs. of tbe Proclamation dated the 20th Fehruary. 1968, issued hy the President STATEMENT RE : RAILWAY ACCI- in reallion to the State of West Ben- DENT ON THE SOUTH CENTRAL gal RAILWAY (1) The ('<:Juri-fcc, (West Bengal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Amendment) Second Ordi- THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS nance. 1968 (Wcst Bengal (SHRI PARIMAL GHOSH): Sir, On Ordinance No. IV of 1968) 9-3-1968 at about 03,00 hours. while promulgated by the Governor train No. 44 Up Kakinada-Madras Cir- of West Bengal on the 6th cars Express was running between VeD- January. 1968. kataohalam and Manubolu stations of the South Central Railway. it collided (2) The West Bengal Separation with a Tourist Bus No. APK 9063 at of Judicial and Executive manned level crossing gate No. lOS at Functions Ordinance, 1%8 Kilometres 153/2-3. As it result the (West Bengal Ordinance No. bus was totally smashed. VII of 1968) promulgated by the Governor of West Bengal In this accident. 7 perllOns traveiliDl!" on the 25th January. 1968. in the bus were killed on the spot and [Placed in LilJrary. See No. 47 injured. Two of the injured pe!"- LT-407/681 sons died on way to hospital and an- ~G-cidet on --~M 11, 1968 GB-G6neral 2920 S. C. Railway (St.) DisclUsion [Sbri Parimal Ghosh] ~ ri" ""' If1'iv ~ : other three after admission in hospital. ~~;r~~~; thus bringing the total number of dead ~~ .ti~ ~~-.ra~ to 12. Of the remaining 42 injured persons, the injuries of seven persons are fm ~ l!i<: \flI'fu' ~ l!i<: ~ I reported to be of a serious nature. a~ ~ ~ \flI'fu' ~ ~ m amiITit- Immediately on receipt of the infor- ~ ~ ~ ~ I ~i;; ~ mation, the Divisional Medical Officer. Bitragunta rushed to the site of the ~it;~t~t:~~ accident iQ the medical van. Medical ~~ "IT Q,T ~ ~ ~ relief vans from Madras and Gudur with ~i~"~~~~i: railway and private doctors were also rushed to the site. The injured passen- fvm ~ ~ m '1ft ~ ~ gers were brought in requisitioned lorries ~~~~ ~i~ for admission in the hospitals at Nellore and Gudur. Thirteen persons. four iffiOT ~ C!W ~ ~~ ~~ am: ~ with serious injuries are in Nellore ~ ~ ~ t~~~: ~ hospital and fourteen persons, three ~

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[Mr. Deputy-SpeakerJ ~ ~ '"" ~ : ~ ~iri ed department, because you are trying iro;r ~ ~ I ~ ~ it.0fTll" ~ to probe into the proprietorship of news- papers. He cannot make inferences. ~~~ Now be is making many allegations, positive allegations and he is mention- "~ "R ~ ~ : ing the names of persons who are not m'T;;rr ~ ~ .... ~ irrelevant. SHRI PILOO MODY: What is SHRI TULSHIDAS JADHAV (8ara- wrong with it ? mati) : On a point of order, Sir. "~~~: ;i~~ Rule 353 says : ifif m:.:it iti 0 it 0 lfTW.fl"zl" l!f,t "!jeff ~ i' i 1"t"fi"'f 'lei'\" : am ~ ~ '!iT came up in the form of privilege motion ~~~~~~aitir before the House. ~ ~ <'I11f ifTU'lf ~ ~ I ~ SHRI PILOO MODY: Mr. Bajaj ~ ire ~ ~ ~ fi1; llif ~ was mentioned here in much the same way. ~~-r~ .. ~ I want to know if the Chair did any. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Do you thing to protect Mr. Bajaj. want this allegation and counter allega- tion? This is not fair. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am not protecting anyone. SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: Why should I counter it? SHRI PILOO MODY: We want to expose all of them. (Interruption) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Do you want this type of debate to continue ? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Order, I do not want that. Please stop here. . order. I have to conduct the debate in 2941 B.G.-Gen. Dis. PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2942

a dignified manner. The names should exceedingly important that the precise DOt be mentioned of those who are not scope of protection to those people who present here. If their names are men- are not here to defend themselves· may tioned without any positive proof or kindly be determined. anything else, it is not in order. He mentioned the name of Mrs. Aruna Asaf MR. DEPUTY-SPBAKER: He has Ali; then, he mentioned the name of raised an important point. Mr. Tulshi- Mr. Malaviya. So far as thi~ House das J adhav raised this point under rule is coneerned, about those persons who 353. When I said, 'some proof, I did are DOt present here, who formerly were not mean 'with some proof in his pocket holding some positions, if you make which is not verified'. These are alle- certain allegations, I am not going to gations .... (lnle"Uplions). The im- permit them. I must keep the dignity porlant aspect of this matter is that, if <>f the debate. the name of a member or a person who is not in a position to defend himself. SHRI TULSHIDAS JADHAV: Sir, whether he belongs to bureaucracy or you have got the right. It says : was formerly a Member of this House. is dragged in with all sorts of allega- "Provided that the Speaker may at tions. I think, it is deragatory to the dig- any time prohibit any member from nity of the House and is unfair to the making any such allegation if he is Member whose name is dragged in. of opinion that such allegation is derogatory to the dignity of the SHRI N. K. P. SALVE: In view of House .... ". Ilhis ruling. I submit that the allegations made by the hon. Member regarding SHRI PILOO MODY: How is it some of eminent public men may be derogatory to the dignity of the House? expunged.

SHRI TULSHIDAS JADHAV: SHRI PILOO MODY I seriously Without giving notice to the Speaker. suggest to you that you do not take any you cannot say like that. particular stand on this subject and re- consider it and. if necessary. you may, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please even have a joint meeting .... (Inle"Up- don't mention the names of persons who lion) . Let me finish. Today I find all are not here to defend. themselves. I of a sudden, because people of a parti- gave you some latitude; you stop here. cular hue are being named, all that hue and cry is being made in the House. SHRI P. K. GHOSH (RanC!bi): lhis Umpteen people have been Damed in may be deleted from the records .... this House before, who have not been ... (/nterruplion)

~~t:"~::~~ AN HON. MEMBER: Is he discuss- ~~~a~~~~~ I ing your ruling. Sir ?

SHRI N.K.P. SALVE (Betul): Sir, SHRI PILOO MODY: I am on his time and again, this question has arisen. point of order. The names of umpteen I beg of you to give a ruling determin- people. who did not have an opportunity ing the precise scope of protection against to defend themselves-members of the defamatory allegations which people hureaucracy. for instance--h8ve been will enjoy who are not here in the mentioned before on the floor of this House to defend themselves. You said House .... Mr. Deputy-Speaker: I have that either the Member should have always protected .... ) Speakenhip is an proof or he should give prior intima- entity whoever may be in the Chair at tion. I submit there is no provision in a particular moment. .•. this rule that if Members have any proof, they should be allowed to make an alle- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The gation. Therefore. I submit that it is names of members of services have been 2943 B.G.-Gel!. Dis. MARCH 11. 1968 B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2944

[Mr. Deputy-Speaker1 ~~~~~~~i~~ mentioned. but we have always taken ~ ~ ~ ~ It>'\' ifi11trqt wrf.f ~ exception to it. When I said just now f.ft:t that this is the general practice here and f'SIWr ~ ~ <"1111 ~ ~ ~ ~ the rule...... (Interruptions) ~~~~~ SHRI Pll..OO MODY: The rules ~ 5000 ~ lfiTfit

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[Shrimati Sucheta Kripalani] postal department. This department is agricultural production, both food crops a commercial department. I appreciate as well as commercial crops. that of late the pressure for giving more DA and higher salaries has been dIem.. The other step he has taken is to In spite of that, I am quite sure that if give support to export promotion. He an effort is made to plug all loopholes, hopes that by these measures our ex- this 2l-crore deficit could to a great ex- port industry will pick up and we will tent be made up and perhaps the people be able to find a bigger foreign market wil1 not have to be taxed to find this for our goods and will secure a better additional income. foothold for our products abroad. As far as this goes, this is a good Then I come to the most vexed and budget and we have notbing to criticise. difficult problem of the gap of Rs. 290 It Will help to create a good psychologi- crores. We al1 know the aversion of cal climate. But the assessment of the FinanCe Minister to deficit financing. people who know about it better than He has lime and again given expression myself is that all these measures will to it. But today he has not been able OIlly have marginal benefit, not a sub- to cover this gap. The reason given is stantial OIle, and that we will really not the impossibility of imposing a very be able to pul1 out our economy from heavy cut in governmental expenditure, the depressed. condition in which it is particularly in view of the recessionary formed today. To the extent it is a condition in our trade. If government rmival-oriented budget, it deserves all orders are also cut, then industry will our support. not be able to revise. That is the justi- fication adduced. The second problem before the Finance Minister was how to balance Secondly, it is also said that We can- the budget. I am very glad to see that not cut our defence expenditure. I he has not gone out to tax on a high generally accept the argument, but while level. He has himself said that he has accepting the argument, I would like to avoided major operations and contented say that in a budget of Rs. 4,000 crores, himself only with minor ones. Not only is it not possible to introduce some kind that. The budget expresses an anxiety of saving of one or two per cent? If a on his part to see that the incidence of saving of one or two per cent can be tax does not fallon the common man effected, certainly we can cover a cer- except for two taxes which have to be tain amount of the gap. I know tbe criticised, the general tax on tobacco FinanCe Minister is trying his level best and the rise in the postal rates. to plug the loopholes. His name is not As far as the postal rates are con- very popular with most of the depart- cerned, the reason given is that there ments at the moment for this very is a deficit of Rs. 22 crores and that reason. But we have got so mucb used our rates are comparatively less than to wasteful expenditure. Take for ins- those in other countries. This is his tance, the vehicles attached to every de- justificatiOll to raise the rates. It may partment. I am more than sure 1Ihey be true that our postal rates compare are misused, not always used for Gov- well with other countries', say, UK. ernment purposes. That is OIle area USA and USSR. But we have also to where we can certainly bring about take into account what is tbe per capita economy. Like that there are several income and economic conditions in those othre areas. If the Finance Minister countries. In tbe conditions of our gives full attention to it, this can be coontry, to raise even the price of the done. I am only sorry that efforts to postcard wil1 be to impose a levy cut wasteful expenditure has not been impinging on the poor people. There- highlighted in the budget. fore, may I appeal to the Finance These are the few remarks that I want Minister to reconsider this Ie,), and to make on the budget proper, but I and give some relief to the taxpayer ? would like to take this opportunity to I am rather surprised to learn that draw tIbe attention of the House 8IId all tbere is a deficit of Rs. 22 crores in the leaders of the people to more basic and 2949 B.G.-Gen. Dis. PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) B.G.-Gt'I!. Dis. 2950

fundamental issues that are before us. wrong, but we did not take the neces- Twenty years have passed since we sary follow-up steps, we shilly-shallied, gained independence. In these twenty we hesitated, we fumbled, and as a re- years we have made superhuman efforts sult, we did not take advantage of de- to build up our economy. Therefore valuation. Neither did our imports go this is a proper time for an assessment down, nor did our exports increase. So, and review of our grains and losses. I as a result, we did not gain anything. know that in these 20 years there has Now, I would like to compare our been considerable development. I do steps after devaluation with those of not want to go into the figures, every- England. England is one of the devo- body knows it, but at this moment of loped countries, one of the foremost time our position is rather difficult. Our countries in the world. It devalued, aDd picture i.5 one of marked deterioration what steps did they take in the wake of not only in one aspect of life, but in devaluation ? They cancelled important various aspects of life to which I wish defence orders, they have withdrawn to draw your attention. The situation their army from yarious parts of the i~ such that it is causing concern to a1l world, they have even gone to the people, not only those who are responsi- lengbh of suspending many of the health ble for the Government, but also those schemes initiated by the Labour Gov- in the opposition, and all right-thinking ernment itself. The Labour Govern- people who are concerned about the ment stands to lose by these measures, country. Therefore, it is time that we but they realised that the economic pOIi- put our heads together and see in what tion was such that they had to take dras- way we can drag the country out of the tic steps; and they were not afraid of morass in which it is landed. taking them. We did not do so.

Economically, where are we? Our We are suffering from chronic infiIa- economy is suffering from acute reces- tion. The inflation that is obtaining in sion. I wiII only quote a few figures the country is cost push, not demand from 1Ihe Economic Survey. The Eco- push inflation. Cost is spirining and is nomic Survey says that all the industries always going beyond the reach of the are not suffering from recession, though people. The remedy that lies with us the situation varies from industry to in- is to check this cost inflation. The cost dustry, but what is the over-all posi- in1lation must be arrested. This cannot tion ? The over-all position is that the be arre~ted by merely controlling money rate of growth has been coming down economy. So, what is to be done ? systematically. In 1960 it was 8%, in That is the trouble, disease and malady 1965 it came down to 56%, in 1966 with our industries? Thev are suffer- to 2.6% and in 1967 to 1.4%. It is a ing from high cost of prOduction, un- matter of great concern that our rate of satisfied demand and sluggish CltportS. growth, instead of being accelerated, is So, the greatest need of the hour is to dwindling day by day. examine the cost structure of trbe entire industrial economy. curb and conlrol all I am more concerned about the symp- r~ee and avoidable expenditure. toms that we see in our economic situa- All the other remedies that we may tion today. We devalued a few years think of will only be palliatives and will back. What was the economic position, not cure the disease. Our economy what was the situation then which made should be production.()riented. I can- us taIce this drastic step ? There were not go into great details but I shall draw high prices, there was deficit and we had your attention to a few aalient points. to subsidise our imports. I am afraid We have huge public sector factories the very same conditions are obtaining and they ha\'e surplus capacity. At the now. Therefore, I would like to know moment our steel mills are working at if a second devaluation ia round the fifty per cent of their capacity. Yet we comer? IT a second devaluation is not are putting up another steel factory at a round the corner, what steps are we huJC cost; all the other three factories taking 1 I do not want to go into that do not cost as much as the estimated devaluation, whether it was riJh,t or COlt of this steel factory. To the extent 2951 B.G.-Gen. Dis_ MAB.CH 11, 1968 B.G.·Gen. DU, 2952

[Shrimati Sucheta Kripalani] with some search have found people in tbere is unutilised capacity of our capi- India wOo bad. this know-how. Of tal is locked up. We are not getting any course we have progressed by these return on that capital. Similarly, there means but perhaps we have paid much is the Bhopal Heavy Electricall. We are more than we should have ordinarily not getting returns from it for years to- paid and the burden has falleD on the gedler. What is the impact of that OIl cost. the cost structure ? Units with heavy idle capacity mean ~h depreciation Today we do not know how to IIlI:et eJameat in the cost. Cost can never our debt obligations. In a recent book come clown unless OUr factories work to published by Shri Manubhai Shah, he tJaeir full capacity. Therefore, we gives the quantum of debt which we should not go for- huge and gigantic have to pay : we should go in for more IChemes; "An important factor responsible modest schemes yielding quick returns. for pressure on the balance of payments of the developing 'The other difficulty in our industry is countries bas been the heavy low productivity of the labour. We debt servicing obligations in- have followed a liberal policy towards curred on account of the terms labour. I want the labour to get its on which foreign assistance is due. But we must recognise that in a being given to these countries. planned economy there are certain jm- For example, during the five p1ications; it presupposes regimentation years of India's Third Five and control, both in production and dis. Year Plan, interest payments tribution. We cannot allow this kind and capital repayments which of low productivity to continue. There India has to make on account is dissatisfaction among abr~trie of external debts have been di9CODtent and trouble all the time. I estimated at Rs. 573 crores. am all for giving incentives to labour (During the Fourth Five Year but we must find out ways by which Plan of India, these debt obli- labour can give fuII work so that our gations are expected to rise to production can go up. Of late, the cost Rs. 1,450 crores.) It is esti- of transport and fuel had also increased mated that after devaluation of steadily and all that has fallen on the the rupee, the total credits COllI of production. The credit policy outstanding up to March 31. was also wrong. We were trying to 1967, in terms of rupee will Squeeze credit for industry but at the be Rs. 71 billion and will need same time we were unable to cOntrol the to be repaid in a period of 20 black money that was in circulation. We years." did not, therefore, get much benefit out of our credit squeeze policy. How are we to develop ? The UNC· TAD Secretariat has brought out a I ha\"e to race against time. I now document on debt servicing and they come to a very important matter- say that by 1975 the condition will be foreign aid. What is its significance ? such that whatever foreilln aid we get, Tied foreign aid does not mean aid. We the entire amount will have 10 be re- can as well change its nomenclature and paid by way of debt servicing. 1 sball call h foreign purchases; fJhat is to say, quote only one line from that papeT : we purcbase foreign goods. We have no freedom to buy goods in cbeap mar- "Assuming a continuatioo of lend- kets; we cannot purchase goods from ing on present average terms it any .market we like. As a result we has been estimated that if tbII have to pay heavy cost which also falls volume of gross lending to 00 the cost of the product. We are pay- developing countrie!l were iDg a Vt1tY heavily cost for foreign tecbni- maintained constant at its cur- cal know-how. Secondly, we a110 ac- rent 1C\-eI, net lendin8 would quire foreign know-bow when we need faU nearly to zero by t975 not so, because in many cases we could and tum negative thenIIfter;" 2953 B.G.-Gen. Dis. PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) B.G.-Gel!. Dis. 2954

What are we to do ? We can repay conventions that one does Dot know debts in goods and that will give a fillip where this will all lead to. These thiogs to our industry and l!lso help us meet are done by those who are responsible our debt servicing obligations as we re- for maintaining parliameo.tary dem0- ceived debt in goods it is but fair that cracy. The custodian of Parliar.lentary we pay back in goods. democracy are subverting the paella- mentary institution. I refer the latest I am glad that at last we have recog- incidents in Bengal and Punjab. nised the importance of agricultural production. I should also like to warn After twenty years of independeDce. that every year will not be a good year. in spite of certain progress, these ace This year We expect a 20 per cent in- the various difficulties in which we find crease in production. That is really the ourselves. I expected that our budget resaon for looking forward to better will not be merely an exercise in finance times. In India every other year had and money .butthat our Finance MiDis- been a bad year. If the next year is a ter would give new direction to our poli- bad year, what is the outlook? There- cies. We are passing through 8 severe fore, we should concentrate our energies crisis and I thought that the President's on agricultural production. I wish we speech and the Finance Minister's bud- had realised this fifteen years age so that get speech would give purposeful direc- by this time we were free of this trouble tion to the country. Thrre are force, of food problem. of disintegration and disruption and law- lessness and economic recession and un- The national income has increased but employment. The entire situation looks the per capita income has increased bad and complicated. In this situation, marginally, hardly, any. Our policy, our we need leadership to give direction and objective about distribution of wealth implement policies with a lirm hand. ~ has not been fulfilled. There is concen- pleasant decisions do not matter in the tration of wealth. We are having a present situation. In tbis situltlaon of separate debate on that. I do not crisis, unpleasant decisions have to he therefore wish to touch upon accepted and we must all honestly im- it now. In the field of education, indis- plement them. I do no find this in the cipline and chaotic conditions pl(vail. Budget. The hudget is good enollgh but Why? Because these boys who are gei- the situution is eceedi.~ difficult and ting education today do not know what much more complex and at sueh a time their future is. Without any healthy a small gesture was not adequqte: we outlook for the future. there IS discon- expected a real policy direction. tent among them and that finds c."pres- sion on all kinds of indesirable activities. This morning, Sir, a note of warning It leads to lawlessness. The law and has come. I read in the newspapers a order situation has certainly deteriorated. report by Mr. Gunnar Myrdal. He is Our weakDess is taken advantage of not only a noted world economist bllt by our Deighbours. Small icide~ are also a great friend of India. What be taking place. Cylon is coming in, has said in this report IS that he feels Burma is sometimes thleatening and that Indian economy as well as Asian Pakistan is sometimes threatening. It is economy ha.~ come into a position of because the Centre is weal. When there stagnation. and stagnation ot d more is a weak centre they can afford to come permanent nature. He then goes intO . and grab areas that lie near them. the details of it. I woulJ urge upon the Worst of all, the political silluation is leadership today to note carefully wIIat bad. We were perhaps the only country he says and to take time to think of siv- in this part of the world where we have ing a new direction to take the C<'\IIItry been maiDtaining democratic traditions out of the sorry state of affairs 10 that and we felt that our democracy haC a we ean get out of it and really march certain amount of vitaJity. But after towards progress and prosperity. the last geueraI elections. we see demo- cracy tottering. The politiciaros are IllT .-... lit ~ : ~ thawing such cynical disresard for all democratic principles and parliamentary ~""" ~ if ~ ~ ~ 2955 B.G.-Gen. Dis. MARCH 11. 1968 B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2956-

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had expressed considerable apprehen- ent which can be used to supplement sion over the fact that the d~t was the resources inter alia for purposes of likely, ultimately, to result in deficit our developmental plans. That is one financing, unless the Finance Minister reason wby though the last budget was resorted to a massive increase in direct ostensibly very well balanced and in this and indirect taxes. It did result in defi- year's budget there is a deficit, you will cit. And realising the somewhat irra- find that the reaction in the investment tional animus We had seen on the part markets in Madras, Delhi. Bombay and of the Finance Minister so far as deficit Calcutta is very much favourable. There- financing was concerned, one was also fore, let us not be obsessed merely by apprehensive that it was likely that the fact that there is deficit financing in rather than supplement the resources this budget. An objective and a realis- with deficit financing, the finance MiniS- tic assessment and C\"8luation may be ter would increase direct and indirect made of the impact of this deficit financ:- taxes which ha\"e already had caused ing on our economy. If it is confined to considerable burden and hardship to the a quantum of Rs. 290 crores. as envi- taxpayers. saged in the budget proposaJa. I have no doubt in my mind that notwithataud- But when he presented this ing this deficit financing, the budget baa budget on his 18th birthday, on the 29th brought about a silver lining to our en- February. his seventy-second year, there tire economy, and even this much- was a pleasant surprise. It was a very maligned institution of deficit financing happy feature to know that the Fmance has proved to be of help to us. Minister was not so rigid and inflexible as he is reputed to be, and one found The two preceding yean were per- that he was amenable to reason in his haps the most critical in the post-inde- views on policy matters because that pendence period so far as our troubled was necessary in the larger interests of economy is concerned. Between the the country. He accepted a change in forceful inftationary pressures on the his approach. that is the essence of one side and the nearly unbreakable res- open-mindedness. He has adopted a trictive and constrictive preaurea of re- new policy, and that is one reason why cession, the eeonomy of the conntry __ I consider that the budget proposals this being crushed, and strained to a poiDt year are less unrealistic, less exuberent. where a crash looked inevitable. unless more businesslike, and more functional. the position was retrieved. The posltioa It was inevitable that deficit finance was that expenditure on plan a10ae would raise a controversy, and unless could revi\'e the economy. and there- the controversy had been raised, possibly fore it has to be decided whether re- the debate in the House might have re- sources were to be supplemented by addi- ceded into a tame affair. That is at tional taxation or reasonable de1lcit least one contribution that deficit financ- financing. I must congratulate the ing has done. It has made the budget Finance Minister that he has taken re- discussion a little more lively. course to the latter expedient. The Deed of the hour was to desperately retrieve But then, deficit financing is a matter the economy of the country by retriev- which has been studied by financial ex- ing the investment marbt from the pens especially with reference to econo- abyss of depression and despondency. mies of developing countries. and it has MR. CHAIIlMAN: He may OIIIy heeD found by them that deficit finaneIng occasionally refer to his IICICa is to the economy of a dC\"eloping coun- try what salt is to a human heing. It SHRI N. K. P. SALVE: I am only is imperative and essential to a degree, referring to my notes on certain matters: but it is likely to be disastrous and p0iso- where I want to be very precise in what nous beyond a certain point. It is an [ say, I read a line or two. Mter a1l. accepted budgetary expedient, of im- a member should be forsiven for befq mease benefit if It Is applied conscien- precise sometimes at least. I am ....te- tiously ablfully and within limits. It Is fuI to you DOIIet:beIesa. I bave to .,.t a WI!')' advantapous budgetary expedi- a whole lot iD • limited time. J ~ LSS(CP)/68-10 2971 B.G.-Gen. Dis. MARCH 11, 1968 B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2972

MR. CHAIRMAN It should be last year with a positively improved occasionol. prospects of industrial and agricultural SHRI N. K. P. SALVE: The need of production; with its consequent margin the hour is desperately to retrieve the to absorb the additional burden. the economy of the nation by retrieving the prices are more than likely to be left investment market from the abyss of de- unaffected by the deficit of Rs. 290 pression, and despondency and retrieving crores. the pace of industrial progress, retrieving There are some other aspects I should the pace of our plans and retrieving the now like to consider in my speech. lost confidence and determination of About public sector undertakings, time businessmen, industrialist the farmer and and again in this House, cid~rabe last but not the least the common man. concern had been voiced about their The budget proposals seek to achieve all working and all sorts of allegations had this, deficit financing notwithstanding been made. The Finance Minister has and tbe budget is therefore a budget come in for fairly scathing indictment which is retrieval oriented budget. So for providing Rs. 110 crores for Bokaro much in favour of deficit financing. But in a year when there is so much deficit a word of caution is certainly necessary financing. I have no doubt in my mind about deficit financing. In fact I must that this type of criticism is absolutely concede as the hon. Member Shri inevitable because some of the critics of Kanwar Lal Gupta said that deficit the public sector undertakings are not financing does have some of the charac- so much critics of the undertakings as teristics and attributes of additional tax- they are of the very concept of the pub- ation. I go a step further and say that lic sector. It must be clearly under- it is in the nature of invisible taxation stood that the Congress Party's econo- because Government draws "from the mic policies and programmes 'Would stocks certain goods and services and make a mockery of its avowed profes- pays for them by printing notes. Natur- sion ot' establishing a socialist pattern ally, it is going to have some inflationary of society if it did not in a mixed eco- effect and' bring about depreciation in nomy contemplate building a mighty the purchasing power of the rupee. and powerful public sector to be a tower Consequently, tbere is an abridgment in of country's economic strength. So, the personal resources of the people and Bokaro is a cballenge to our determina- they are not able to command such tion, tenacity and perseverance and we goods and services as they would other- must go ahead with it and bring about wise have done. But the question is : a sucecssful completion of this project. in which mode, and manner should the The entire Rs. 110 crores provided in plan be financed ? Could it be financed the budget is not coming out of the defi- with the help of deficit financing, tbat is, cit finance. If the hon. Membe-s who invisible taxation or with the helD of had been criticising the Finance Minister additional visible taxation? It bas been for this had cared to look into the ex- a right decision of the Finance Minister planatory memorandum of the budget, to prefer invisible taxation, because the they would. find that Rs. 41.31 crores deficit is not going to have an adverse will come from the USSR and we wiIl effect on the retrieval process of our have to put in only Rs. 66.69 crores. economy as there are signs of revival of But, it is absolutely necessary for me to the pace of industrial growth with happy point out tbat Bokaro must not be increase of last year's kharif and this alIowed to become a bottomless pit. It year's rabi crops, the redeeming trend is said that the per unit cost of the whole of prices declining after October, 1967, project of Bokaro is going to be nearly tbe indications are that the burden of two or three times that of Japan, Italy invisible taxation, if confined to a maxi- and France. The unit cost is the cost mum of Rs. 290 crores may not strain of a project which is ascertained by the citizens any further, and yet give a dividing the total cost of the project by STeat fillip to the economy. One very its capacity. I have collected' some gOod reason wby deficit will not strain, figures which reveal that there is a very if it is of. the' order of Rs. 290 crores· startling disparity between the cost which only, is thet it is less than that of the is going to be on our head for Bokaro 2973 B.G.-Gen. Dis. PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAXA) B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2974

and the unit cost of such a plant else- ,"Blue their friendship, notwithstanding where in the world. the fact that I ano many like me may have our own views and grievances about My figures are here and I would beg their political idealogy, and we may the Finance Minister to bear with me. have our own personal feelings about it. II these figures are correct, I am sure But they have been our friends; and he will take note of these and do what- surely in Bokaro we are not going to ever is possible to bring about a reduc- pay any hush-hush money for their tion in the cost of Bokaro. In Fuku- favours nor are we going to pay them yama, in Japan, which was completed in a penny more than what is warranted 1966, the unit cost is Rs. 992. In the by exigencies of the pure business con- ~cer Works in the United Kingoom, sideration. So, I am sure the Finance which was completed in 1962, the unit Minister will kindly look into this as- cost was Rs. 1,170. In Toranto in pect. Italy, which was completed in 1964, the unit cost was Rs. 861. In Dunkirk. It is true, and it must be understood France, which was completed in 1963, that the public sector undertakings, by the unit cost was Rs. 960. As against their very nature, are such and their these figures, I would draw your atten- plants and business cannot be run purely tion and through you the attention of for profit-making purposes like any the Home and of the Government that other commercial concern. Therefore, the Soviet estimate for Bokaro is Rs. sometimes there is a longer gestation 2,860 per unit cost. There is a very period because of the nature of the plant great disparity. The unit cost is arrived and the public obligation, then there is at by dividing the total cost of the pro- the private sector undertakings. It is, ject by its capacity. So, as against Rs. unfair, therefore, to run down the pub- 992, 1,170, 861 and %0 in Japan, United lic sector undertakings merely because Kingdom, ~ta and France reecti~. the return is not as much as it is in the the Soviet estimate for Bokaro is going commercial undertakings in proportion to be Rs. 2,860. I have no doubt in to the overall capital. But then, it has my mind that the Soviet Union has been to be conceded that all is neSt well with one of our greatest trineds. It is one our public sector undertakings, and we of those countries which hos stood by will have to be extremely vigilant. us in time of need. Take steel for example. We had the cheapest steel made in the world in the· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN)STRY OF FINANCE (SHRI forties. But today it is one of the most expensive steel. The only reason for K. C. PANT)' What capacity is he this is that we have just not cared· to taking into account ? Are they com- parable capacities ? keep pace with developing technology. One very undoubted misfortune which SHRI N. K. P. SALVE: The capa- pervades our public undertakings is the city as in the Soviet estimate; as men- menace of inexperienced, untrained. tioned in the Russian's project report. bureaucrats occupying the highest posts The capacity is mentioned in the pro- by craft and manoeuvres in the Minis- ject report of the Soviet experts. I am try. Secondly, what is worse is, that willing to place these figures before the politiCians who are rejected by their hon. Minister and if he cares to go into electorates, find an asylum in public the matter he may find more authentic sector undertakings. These undertak- data. I only request the hon. Minister ings cannot be run as charitable institu- that it is necessary for him to see and tions. The best and experienced tech- determine what steps should be taken nologists alone must manage these to bring about a reduction in COSt in plants. The Hindustan Steel Plan! at Bokaro. We must have Bokaro; it is the moment, it is well known, are in an absolutely undoubted proposition. the doldrums. Still, today, in the The whole thing is, how to· bring about papers, I read that a politician is being economy in its cost. We are collaborat- tipped as Chairman of Hindustan SteeL ing with Russia in this project they have I only bopethat seeing such·' heavy been one of our old friends and we stakes, the Finance Minister would not 2975 B.G.-Gen. Dis. MARCH 11. 1968 ~G.-Ge. Dis. 2976-

[Shri N. K. P. Salve] instal a telephone in his house through allow our Hindustan Steel to be reduced the kindness of the Minister here who is to a charitable institution. If a new a very kind man. You will be putting Chairman is to be selected. I would only him in unending 4rOubies because at sugegst that a person of lonll Slanding three o'clock in the morning the tele- and experience in this steel technology phone will stan ringing only to be told and we have such men in our country- that it is 'wrong number'. Therefore, if must be appointed. there is to be increase in the pOstal tarilI, which is very much necessary and war- The next aspect I would like to deal ramed by exigencies of circumstances. with is with regard to the revision of and to adhere to the principle that postal postal tariff. A very very scathing indict- department has to be self-sufficient, let mc;nt is coming on the Finance Minister there be a corresponding increase in for revising the postal rates upwards. I economy together with sincere endea- should like to join all I!bose who are vours made to increase the efficiency of attacking him. for who would like to take this department. an unpopular cause. But I sympathise with him for the simple reason that the There are new levies of excise on con- postal services have to be in principle fectionary chocolates, articlficial leather made self-sufficient. There is the report cloth. embroidery, steel furniture, parts of the Tariff Commission on the basis of wireless sets and cruWD corks. Except of which these postal rates have been parts of wireless sets and crown corks revised upwards. There has been all other items are consumed by aftluent these years a chronic deficit in this de- section of the society and sinCe it is used partment. Last year in the pOstal branch by them I will not take up their unropu- itself the deficit aggregated to Rs. 16.81 lar cause. Therefore the new levies are crores and in the telegraph branch it ag- excepting the levy on chocolates. I would gregated to Rs. 5.86 crores. Surely, in like the Finance Minister to consider and principle, everyone must accept that if a reconsider dhat this Rs. 2.40 crores iJ a serviCe is to be rendered by the Govern- revenue whiCh he is going to take oul of ment that service has to be self-sufficiellt the pocket monies of children. They and only those who avail of the service should be spared. Children of every ICC- must bear the burden of the same. tion of our society love chocolates. In But 1 would like to draw the attention our country the leaders have been very of the Finance Minister to one very im- popular with the children. It would be ponant aspect of the matter. I have found unfair to take Rs. 2.40 crores out of the that the standard of efficiency of our pocket money of children. I hope th~ poItal department is so low that it can will be a chocolate-like attitude and the only match with the low charges that we Finance Minister wIll give relief to- pay for postal tariff. In fact. the efficiency these youngsters. of this department is particularly low and oonsiderable improvement must be There is one aspect regarding the ex- made. I may not have any objection to ci~e law Ito which I would like to draw the rates being revised-I hope on the the attention of the Finance Minister postcard and the inland letter paper there particularly. Under the excise laws and will not be such an unkind increase, rules the executive is entitled to reduce though there is no doubt that in the over- the rates of excise which we fix here and all budgeting the postal department in practical working I!be same virtually should be e~iciet. But what is reduces all that we pass by way of rates necessary is that the standard of effici- to a notional or academic discussion. It ency of the postal department mlDt im- dilutes Parliament's authority. We may prove. After all, letters must reach us if pass "Bny rate but that rate is never 0pe- not in 15 or 20 days then at least in one rative. The executive by its authority month. express letters must reach us be- under the rules bring about a completely fore ordinary letters and telegrams must different rate. And about such changes reach us at least In four day ti~e there is no intimation to Parliament, the that would be efficient service. If you paper is never laid on the Table and DO wut to wreck vengeance on. somebody reason is given. 2977 B.G.-Gen. Dis. PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) B.G.-Gm. Dis. 2978

MR. CHAIRMAN : While his spet:Ch SHRI (Basir- is very interesting, the .time is running hat): Mr. Chairman, I recognise that short. the Finance Minister this year had an extremely difficult situation to face. He SHRI N. K. P_ SALVE: I am run- had increased taxes last year but very ning against time. I hope you will give often these increases instead of giving me another two minutes. him additional revenue had led to a I hope the Finance Minister would be deterioration in the situation. The econo- able to give an assurance that hereafter my has been stagnant in the last two years. There were some signs of a pick- whenever there is any revision in ~be rates as a result of which the rates passed up from October 1967 and it was neces- by Parliament are changed, the relevant sary for him to adopt measures so that orders will be laid on the Table of the t his buoyancy was kept up and nothing House and the reasons given for thc was done to retard the growth of the economy. He was, therefore, operating same. within very strict limitations and, within The concessions and assistanCe con- those limitations, I would congratulate templated in the budget proposals to him for facing the problem boldly and boost export are very laudable. The ex- giving us a budget which keepS the eco- ports have shown a slight increase in the nomy going on. It has kept the patient recent months. But it is very regrettable alive and promises to keep the patient that India, which once enjoyed a mono- alive. But I regret I cannot extend to him poly of manganese export, has almost the same congratulations in devising been whistled out of world market. remedies which will cure the patient COID- pletely 80 that medicines may not be The performance of MMTC, another necessary in future. It is a continuing public undertaking under the vicious grip budget, a budget which will more or less of a well-meaning inexperienced ICS help us to job along. But this budget officer, eternally on tour abroad, needs does not contain some of those special to be scrutinised and drastic endeavours measures which are necessary if the eco- made to recover export market of man- nomy is to be revived and in the two ganese. major dangers facing India today are to The proposed changes in direct taxes be overcome. is a miMure of expedient provisions. The reduction of excess dividend tax, the sur- The budget is an occasion when we tax from 35 per cent to 25 per cent, review the entire policy of the Govern- weighted allowance of expenses for ex- ment and, in fact, almost every aspect port promotion as wen as expenses on of administration can be examined and improving agricultural productivity, abo- suggestions made. I shall not, therefore, lition of surcharge have had a salutary go into details about specific proposals effect on ¢he investment market. but shall confine myself mainly to certain general issues. I will make only ODe ex- In the end, to sum up, I think it would ception, and that is in respect of increase be unfair not to recognise that the Fin- in the postal rates. A number of 1pCIIk- ance Minister under the circumstances era have spoken about it, and the speaker could not have done any better in faot, who just now sat down, my bon. friend be has charted the wisest course. And, Shri Sah-e, while paying a compliment to therefore, I would say of him what the Finance Minister at the same time Tennyson said of a wise, faithful and a was also all the time pulling his legs Ii beautiful young woman : little and suggesting that many changes To doubt her fairness were to want are necessary, not the least of it in the an eye to see postal rates. To doubt her pureness were to wan.: It is true that the postcard has always heart to feel a been a loss to the postal department. But To doubt her wisdom were to want it is Dot necessary that every single Item a head to think. in ady department must be se1f-l\lpport- 2979 B.G.-Gen. Dis. MARCH 11, 1968 B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2980

[Shri Humayun Kabir] sector of organised industry and a loss of ing and economic. The postcard is the something like 700 crores in the sec- poorman's way of communication tor of agriculture. throughout the country and, therefore, even if there be some loss so far as post- cards are concerned, I think there is no Now, I take the question of political justification for the hon. Finance Minis- unsettlement first. There is a general ter to raise the rates on postcards. He growth of lawlessness and disorder may make the Postal Department as a throughout the country and, under one whole self-supporting by altering the name or another, there are attacks on rates elsewhere but, so far as the post- the life of the nation itself. There have cards are concerned-perhaps, so far as been riots and disturbances in tbe past inland letters also are concerned-there also. But never before has there been this should be r~aiati. kind of systematic and organised attack on the life of the nation in the name But I have also a shrewd suspIcion sometimes of religion, sometimes of lan- that the Finance Minister wiII again exhi- guage and sometimes of territory. All bit the same dry and wry humour which these portend ill for thef uturc of the; marked a good deal of his speech this country unless they are controlled in time. He revealed one new aspects of his time. I would sugegst that a good deal personality during the last Budget speech of this unrest in different forms is ulti- and made the House laugh more often mately a question of the maintenance of than per.haps he has done in the past and, law and order, the question of guarantee- perhaps, when he gives his reply to the ing security of life and property to every debate, he wiII again' give up an occa- single citizen. I am convinced that wher- ever a Government is determined this sion of pleasure in reducing the sur- kind of riots and disturbances, even if charges which he has indicated on the they occur sporadically, cannot continue post-card and the inland letter maintain- for long. Before there is any riot on a ing them at their original prices. This is large-scale, there is a period of simmrring a recommendation which, I think, he will and if, during the period of simmering receive from every side of the House and adequate steps are taken by the \;)cal like a true democrat, I hope, he will yield administration, they can control the ,Hua- to the wishes of the House in this matter. tion. Even if ,there is an outburst, if im- mediately strong action is taken, we find Now, as I said, I wish to confine my- control of the situation and there is no self to certain major issues and t he gene- repetition of that kind of incidents. ral approach rather than to specific ques- tions. I think, the two major dangers which face the country today are, firstly, I would give only two examples from the political unsettlement which we find wi.!hin our own knowledge of recent hi~ in different aspects of national life and tory. The hon. Finance Minister himself, secondly, the economic stagnation which when he was the Home Minister C'f has been dogging us almost incessantly Bombay, took certain measures ""bich from 1962-63. If we look at the three had the effect of effectively putting down Plans we find that there was a definite communal rioting for a number of yeaTS. and steady increase in both total national Similarly, I know that the late Mr. Sri productivity and per capita income upto Krishna Sinha who was :!he Chief Minis- the year 1961-62. But from the year ter of Bihar was so shocked and grieved 1962-63, not only has there been no by the riots of 1947 in that Stale that marked increase in national producthity he made a vow that during his I egime, nor in the per capita income but actually there shall be DO repetition of such riots. if you compare the figures of per capita I have heard from very high officials of income in 1961-62 with per capita in- tbe Bihar Government, some of whom come in 1965-66, you will find there are occupying very high positions in the was some loss. I think, in one of the Government of India today, that Mr. Sri economic surveys, it was indicatcd tbat Krishna Sinha told aU the District during the Third Plan, there was a loss officers concerned that he did not want of something. like Rs. 400 crores in the any excuse, he did not want any apology. 2981 B.G.-Ge/!. Dis. PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) B.G.-Ge/!. Dis. 2982

he did not want any explanation,-all accusor, the complainant, the judge and that he wanted was to be assured that the executioner, law and order in this there will be no riot of that type. country will break down and that will be During the period he was alive, hardly the greatest disservice which a ny gov- a single riot disfigured the life of Bihar. ernment could render to its pe"ple. What was done in Bombay during the time of my han. friend, the There is also the spectacle of ~ outh Finance Minister, what was done in on the rampage. Everywhere we find Bihar during the time of the iate Mr. Sri that the young people are rebellious and Krishna Sinha, can surely be done today. they are partIy responsible for the kind For that, there are many spccili:: things of situation which has been obtaining in which can be discussed in detail. But of different parts of the country. In lTlauy one 'lhin.g I am certain that, unless the cases, ~hi kind of pogrom wnich takes Government takes much firmer action place may be inspired by certain plliiti- than they have done in the past, if we cians or other scheming persons from have incidents like those which happened behind, but very often the young people in Meerut or at Ranchi or at Gauhati or who have idealism-and their idealism at Karimganj or in other paris of the has been misdirected and misguided-go country on one pretext or the other, un- into the pogroms largely out of a sense less the Government takes measures of frustration. That is why I would sug- which make the repetition of incidents gest that these two aspects of the prob- like this impossible, ,the Government will lem, the political danger of disintegration have failed in its duty. The first claim of on the one hand and economic stagna- any citizen on the State is of security of tion on the other are closely linked with life, property and honour and a State each other. Wherever you can give to which cannot fulfil these demands, people the young people prospects rr)f a bright will start questioning r.s action in every future, wherever they have an opportu- field and, I think, this is a matter of nity of creatiVe service to h~ nation and which the most serious notice must be to humanity, they will never indulge taken and the Government must take ac- in. activities of this kind. Therefore, in ~i to see that there is no repetition of order ,10 cure even the political situation, incidents of this type in any part of the certain economic measures have to be country. taken. That is where again the budget and the Finance Minfster becomes so im- If officers feel that their own personal portant. career is linked up with the maintenance of law and order in their area, there will In creating this situation of !lreater be immediately 'a salutary change in their hope and economic expectancy in othis entire attitude. The British, through a country, several measures a.e ere~ar very small number of British officers, of which, I should say, the very first is with a judicious mixture of r.::ward and increasing food production. This, of punishment, were able to maintain law course, is a truism and yet, unfortunately, and order in a way from which we also sometimes we forget even tri~. In can learn certain lessons. I hope thao! the past we have not always paid that the Government will, even ilOW, awake attention to agriculture which it deserves to the danger which is threatening the and demands. Almost the whole of our very life of the nation. If this position economy is dependent on agrit"liiture, continues, a stage will be created in the whether it be in the matter of f"od pro- country where every individual, whether duction, whether it be in the matter of it be 'X' or 'Y' or 'Z' or whether it be production of industrial raw material. this 'Dal' or that 'Dal', whether it be this From every point of view, the compara- organisation or that organisation whether tive neglect of agriculture has imposed a it be this party or that party, whether heavy burden on the country which we it be a follower of this religion or that are now trying to redeem. I admit, and religion, whether it be this community or I would like to say so openly that the that community, each man will take the steps which the Government have taken Jaw in his own: hands. And if everybody in this respect in. the last two or three or every group takes the law illto its own years are in the right direction, but we hands and becomes itae~ the have ill> go much funher, and I think, MARCH 11, 1968 B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2984

[Shri Humayun Kabir] prices have gone up and he is somewhat we have not attacked the question from better off. There is, therefore, some- one of its most important aspects lind times, especially from urban areas, an that is land reform. insistent demand for lowering the prices of foodgrains and cereals. I would In this country we want to increase submit that while the prices of food- the production per unit of land. It is not grains must be controlled and maintain- so necessary to increase production per ed, they must also be stabilised. Any unit of capital or per unit of labour. In attempt to depress unduly the prices of fact, in our country, if we concentrate foodgrains will have a most harmful on saving labour and capital in land. we effect on the economy. What the agri- will be making a gross mistako::. There culturist wants is a fair price. He is is sometimes talk-and the Government prepared to sell his grains and cereals itself is guiloty of it at times-of large at a reasonable price provided he can mechanized farms, of State farm-, of get the essentials of his requirements compulsory co-operatives, but that is not also at reasonable prices. Tb.o$e essen- the way in which redemption ie~. As tial demands of the agriculturist are, one hon. frieDd pointed out, frankly firstly pulses and cereals, then edible oil capitalist countries like Japan and Taiwan sugar and cloth and spices and salt and have imposed ceilings on the farm; 10 fuel. .. acres are ;the ceiling, as far as I can re- collect. in Japan and 7 acres in Taiwan. SHRI RANDHIR SINGH: Iron and Yet, the production per acre of ~ad is cement also. among the highest in these two countries. SHRI HUMAYUN KABIR: These In fact, comparative ire~ show that are the basic demands Iron and cement the highest production per acre it. no: in are also necessary but they are not the USA or in the USSR or in Australia essential to his very survival as theae or Canada, which have vast farm lands six other items are., If these things can and where each unit of production is per- be assured to him at a reasonable price, haps 1,000 acres or 5.000 acres or even he would also be prepared to part with 10,000 acres, but the highest production his grains at a ressonable price. I think per acre is in small countries like the these can be assured to him at a reason- Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium. I'laly, able price through the co-operatIves. Western Germany, Japan and Taiwan. Here, I would suggest to the Finance All this has been achieved by a judicious USe of human labour. That is Minister that he must utilise the co- operative movement in the country on a point which we have to remember. a much larger scale than has been done through judicious land reform and If in order to assure to the agriculturist by transfer of the ownership to the that these essential needs are supplied at peasant we can build up a system of a reasonable price. I haVe seen some peasant proprietorship here, not only of the work done in the co-operative will there be an immediate increase in movement in Bengal which is not too the production of food but it will also progressive so far as the cooperative atrengthen basis of democracy in the movement goes. And yet in spite of this country. These yeomen as they may the many drawbacks of the co-operative be called will serve as one of the surest movement in Bengal, the co-operative bulwarks against every kind of subver- societies in Bengal have been able to aive activity. supply edible oil. for instance, at about RI. 2.50 to RI. 3 per Kg. when the 16 HaS. market price was something like as. Now, I go on to the question of 4.50 or Rs. 5. They have been able to prices. It is true that in recent yeaI1 supply cloth also at reasonable prlcee. I the agriculturist has had a comparatively believe about 10 per cent of the produc- higher price than he had enjoyed in the tion is reserved for co-operatives. If that past. In the past, the agriculturist bas 10 per cent could be increased to about always borne the entire burden of the 20 per cent and this additional !Supply Indian economy. During the last seven of these article reached to the rural or eight years, to a certain extent the areas, to the peasants and the cullin- 2985 B.G.-Gen. Dis. PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) .B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2986 ton, then we could also demand that the expenditure. One of the simplest ways prices of foodgrains shall be kept stable. of doing it-it is not very simple be- It is obvious that unless we can keep cause a monetary measure cannot be the price of foodgrains stable, there can simple-is to issue a new set of currency be no question of price control in the notes. I am not suggesting that there country and the spiral will continuously should be any demonetisation in the go on rising. general sense by which you repudiate I would also suggest in this connection your obligations. But if it is provided a curb on expenditure. Today the prices that the present set of bank notes are are high very often because there is too withdrawn and a new set are issued and much money flowing about. If there anyone can change them through a were a curb on expenditure then there bank, only through a bank, immediately would be an immediate control on a good deal of this black money will prices. I know that the Finance Minis- have to come out into the open, espe- ter has considered an expenditure tax. cially if no questions are asked. If That would perhaps, be a mOVe in the questions are asked, there will be all right direction, but I think he should kinds of surreptious moves to get round. have a much more rigorous control on It should be provided that anybody can infrutuous expenditure of every type. I present the notes at a bank and get a have mentioned in this House before new set; only there will be an entry. also that there are certain types of osten- Also if the Finance Minister would take tatious expenditure which should surely courage in his hands and make it un- be curbed. We have, for instance, lawful to make any payment over Rs. marriages in this country where some- 250 or Rs. 500 except through cheques- times literally tens of thousands of through banJcs.-that will go a very 10Dg rupees are burnt in lights and in illumi- way in drawing out this black mOlley nation. Very often I also know that the and in controlling excessive expenditure poor parents who undergo ·this expendi- that very often takes place. ture do not do so very happily but be- I would make another suggestion for cause it is the custom and becaUSe it is his consideration. In many of the East the fashion and they do not want to be European countries where they follow regarded as more miserly or less affec- the socialist pattern, most of the articles tionateto their children than other are expensive, but a few of the esseDtial parents, they indulge in a competition things are given at almost rock bottom on such expenditure. If some kind of a prices. I found in Bucharest that trans- curb were put and it was said that in port, housing, bread and milk are given all these kinds of festivities, this kind ot at prices which made one rub ODe's eyes ostentation shall not be permitted and in wonder. They are cheaper than in shall be taxed most heavily ... our own country. Similarly, as regardl clothing, I found that every person was SHRI RANDHIR SINGH: A very given a coupon by which he could buy good proposal. one suit annually at a price extremely SHRI HUMAYUN KABIR: ... then reasonable, perhaps Rs. ISO for a warm it would be a good thing. We may woollen suit in Bucharest. But uyone allow up to a hundred or 200 or 300 who wanted a second suit had to go to guests, but if one wants to give a feast the shop and pay something like Rs. 700 where a thousand people are fed or -800. Everybody was given one pair where ten thousand lights are lit, then if of shoes per year through a coupon some tax is put on such expenditure, I costing Rs. 25-30. If he wanted the think it will not only have a salutary luxury of a second pair, he had to pay elrcct on the general expenditure but it Rs. 200 or more. will also have a salutary effect 011 gen- I was discussing at that time whether eral social customs. we could send more consumer goods in In this connection, there is also the order to ensure a greater supply to the question of black money. Unless we people of that city. Some of the Minia- can bring this out somehow or other, we ten said, 'We may import from Indi.. caDnot control this kind of ostentatious but that does not mean that the prices 2987 B.G.-Gen. Dis. MARCH II, 1968 B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2988:

[Shri Humayun Kabir] Rs. 500 crores which we could have' will come down. We shall assure to the saved, or the Rs. 1,100 crores which is- people basic essentials at this kind of going into Bokaro during the current reasonable price, but anyone who wants year, were utilised for small-acale, something over the minimum will have medium and cottage industries, we to pay through the nose'. would provide employment to a far lar- ger number. I think the hon. Finance I would ask the Finance Minister to Minister cannot deny that Rs. 1,000 consider whether We cannot have some- crores investment in Bokaro will give thing on these lines here. We have employment to only 10,000 er~. In already rationing on a large scale of other words, for every crore invested, cereals. Through their ration cards, the employment is only of ten people, people have to get supplies. If in a but if it is invested in medium-scale in- similar way every citizen was given a dustries it will be something like 500 basic minimum at a reasonable price people, and if we go to cottage and and for other things the law of supply small-scale industries, it would be and demand was allowed to operate, I almost double. Therefore, with the think excessive expenditure could be same amount We would create employ- curbed and we would have more re- ment opportunities for a vast number of sources for development. young men and women, and this would If we are to break this present econo- not only give them employment, and mic stagnation, We have to think in create more wealth in the country, but terms of control of prices, in terms of simultaneously it would lift the mist of supply of foodgrains and other depression, the mist of frustration, the basic essentials to every citizen. But threat of disintegration from which so- even more important is the question of ciety is suffering today. increasing employment opportunities. There are so many tasks which re- This is where I find the Budget, on the main to be done. Our people are with- whole, most disappointing. My hon. out education. If the programme of friend, Shri Salve, who preceded me education were taken up seriously, there paid his tribute to Bokaro, but in the can be no question of educated un- end the conclusion he drew proved that employment in this country. Even to- Bokaro is not necessary at the moment. day,the total number of people engaged Certainly not one Bokaro but ten will be in education is not 2 million at all levels, needed in India over the next 15-20 and We need for primary education years, but today when we cannot con- alone something like 3 million teachers sume all the steel We produce, when we if this country is to provide education cannot export all the steel that is in ex- for every child of schoolgoing age. We cess, when existing steel plants are not require also a fairly large number, I working to full capacity, what justifica- think the number is between 400,000 tion is there for going in for a white and half a million, at the secondary elephant of this type? Merely in order stage, to give us the satisfaction that our pro- duction of steel goes up from 6 million We must, in this country, also do tons to 7.8 million or 8 million tonnes. something to control the growth of population, and for that We require an- Again, my hon. friend mentioned that other 200,000 people at least to go the investment on Bokaro was very high, throughout the country to carry on pro- but he did not mention that an equal paganda. If through these two pro- amount of 1.5 miIIion tonnes of steel grammes, they are ultimately the same could be obtained from our existing programme, educating or enlightening plants by enlarging and improving pro- the people is taken up seriously, the un- duction in Rourkela, Bhilai and Durga- employment problem of the educated pur at a cost of something like R!. ~ can be solved ovemigltt. crores; instead of that, we are gomg m (or Rs. 1,100 crores for producing the So far as the uneducated are concem- same amount of steel which also we ed, again there are crying needs in the shall not need immediately. If these country. Our villagers are very often 2989 B.G.-Gen. Dis. PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SA.KA.) B.G.-Gen. Dis. 2990 cut off from the major centres of trade through him to the Government to cre- and industry because there is a gap of ate an atmosphere of hope and provide a mile, two miles, three miles or four employment to these million, of young miles of road between a village and a men and women. If We can do that, metalled highway. If a vast programme this pall of gloom will be dispelled. Not of rural road construction was taken up, only will there be economic buoyancy not only do we provide employment to but the political stagnation from which people, but simultaneously we build that We are suffering, the disintegration that infrastructure on which the economy of is threatening the country will be things the country can go ahead. of the past. The bickerings going on Similarly, about rural housing. 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SHRI A. T. SARMA (Bhanjanagar): Girls High Schools and Women's Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I thank the Colleges in the name of co-educatiOD. F"mance Minister as he hal presented They are going to abolish 'the Sanatrit an excellent Budget. I call it excellent Department in my State and they are because provisions have been made in asking the Matrica~ to take Sanskrit all the aspects of it and that, just like in P.U.C. and B.A. courses. This is the the Orissa Budget, it is not repeated like nature of the Budget! Mr. Masani is that. taking pride in that and he has bitterly The hon. Member Mr. Masani, has criticised this excellent Budget here. I made a pride that his Party could pro- do not know what is this. Once there duce a so-called surplus Budget in the was a king who said that if anybody Orissa State. But that is not a Budget could give a convincing answer to a at all. The thing is this. I would like certain point, he would give Rs. 1,000. to tell a few things here. It has shown Everybody approached him, but he said, that an amount of Rs. 12 lakhs would 'No, I am not conviced'. This is the be surplus. But in the Budget a pro- Budget! They want to enhance their vision has been made to raise Rs. 4t revenue by abolishing prohibition. Pro- crores and by providing for Rs. 4t hibition was introduced by the Congress crores by way of loan, they have shown Government and it was in operation for a surplus amount of Rs. 12 laths. This the last 20 years. But they have aoo. is one thinlt. lished prohibition and they anticipate about Rs. 2 crores out of this. This is Another thing is that the figures on the nature of their Budget! It is not the receipts side have been so exaggerat- a constructive budget. but it is Ii des- ed that there is no truth, no actual!, tructive budget. Mr. Masani may take nothing else. I would like to narrate pride in that, but our Budget is not like three or four items of that nature. that. It is depending on the actuals. One is that about Rs. 2 crores have been For every thin&, provision has been provided for the collection of arrears. made. For planning, about Rs. SO crores Generally, every year, we anticipate re- have been provided in addition to !be ceipts and we collect some arrears. What existing provision. For nitrogenous fer- We anticipate in receipts, there may be tilisers, 3t millions have been provided some receipts or some arrears. So, the this year. For agriculture, all sorts of figure of arrears always stand constant. facilities have been granted. Again, for That from the arrears they will collect procurement, a reasonable price hll.!l Rs. 2 crore"S is impossible. So, Rs. 2 been assured to the cultivators. Our crores have been shown as the collection budget shows that proper calculation of arrears. has been made to fix the price '0 that the cultivator may not lose anything Then, a very ridiculous figure that has under the procurement system. Yet. been provided is of Rs. SO lakhs from Mr. Masani criticised it saying that, by the municipal rent revenue. We do not introducing procurement, the cultivator know what it is. There is no rule, no is not given his proper share. I do not regulation, nothing else. It is a specula- know how he says that ... tive figure that they have provided. Again, they have provided Rs. 30 SHRI DATIATRAYA KUNTE laths as profit from the State transport. (Kolaba) : Is he diseussinl: Mr. Masani Generally, it is running on a lois. Not or the General Budget ? even a pie is being received as profit. But in this Budget, they have shown that SHRI A. T. SARMA: That is also a Rs. 30 laths would accrue as net profit. part of the Budget. When somebody There are so many absurdities. criticises our Budget, then it is our duty to criticise him. r am coming to this It has provided that about Rs. 60 Budget point by point. Why should he lakhs would come from the collection say that, under the system of procure- of bonus on foodgrains which are not ment, the cultivator will lose his proper possible at all. They have abolished zila share? On the other hand, under the parlshacls; they are going to abolish procurement system, the cultivator is, 3001 B.G.-Gen. Dis. PHALGUNA 21. 1889 (SAKA) B.G.-Gen. Dis. 3002 benefited because he is getting his cost stand what he means by the term of production immed:ately .... 'janata'. In :his budget everything has SHRI GADILINGANA GOwn been provided for the janata. Imple- (Kurnool) : What are the rates fixed? ments for agricultural cultivatioo have been provided for, and to increase food SHRI A. T. SARMA: Why is he get- production, all sorts of attempts have ting annoyed? I am coming to the point, been made. So, how could my hon. Why should he be in a hurry ? friend say that nothing has been daDe There is no difference in the price and for the janata in this budget? Of course, the cultivator gets the articles produced he has freedom of speech in the House by him sold immediately. He is satisfied. and he clm say what he wants, but that He is benefited thereby. So, procure- kind of citicism has no meaning at all. ment does not deprive the cultivator of I would submit that this budget is a his dues but rather assures him of those budget for the janata in every respect. dues. So, merely saying that it is not a budget for the janata would not do. Then, my han. friend Shri M. R. Masani has criticised the provision of My hon. friend has pointed out that Rs. 110 crores for the Bokaro project. what the janata needs is food, clothing, I would like to ask my han. friends education and shelter, and he says that whether the Bokaro project is justified nothing has been done in this behalf in or not. Shri M. R. Masani wants that this budget. I would like the House to this amount should have been spread consid·er whether what he has said is over some other projects, but if that correct and sound. I do not think that were dooe, we would not be able to save it is correct or sound. As I have pointed much thereby. But here if this one out already, attempts have been made single project is completed, we shall be to increase ogricultural production and benefited by the production of steel so on. from this factory. That is why such a We should also cons' der the circum- big amount has been provided for th's stanc-es under which this budget has single project, and there is, therefore, been brought forward. The prices had justification for this. been rising sky-high, and our crops had Then, Shri M. R. Masani had said failed during the last two years, but that the Congress had got only about 40 under the able guidance of our Finance per cent of the total votes. I would like Minister We were able to face the crisis to ask h'm whether the Congress Gov- well. Is that not a fact? ernment is popular or not. I would also ask him to analyse the position of SHRI UMANATH (Pudukkottai): his own party. I may point out that in It is a fact that he prayed to God and all the States the Congress has emerged there was rain. as the single largest party. Even in this House, the Congress has the majori'y. SHRI A. T. SARMA: It is a fact So, I do not know what type of calcula- that we were able to face the crisis well, tion the hon. Member depends upoo. I and there is DO doubt about it. do not understand how he could criticise It is true that We have been dependent the Congress and pass such remarks on food imports from outs·de. I per- about the Congress. We have seen now sonally do not like it and am not very how the non-Coogress Governments in happy about it. We must make attempts other States have not been able to suc- to increase our foodgrains production ceed at all. I would like to foretell that so that we become self-sufficient and do again the Congress will come back to not have to depend on foreign sources. power in those States within a short That is my individual opinion. But period, and the other nOD-Coogress attempts have been made to achieve that Governments are going to fall. in the budget. Production of nitrogenous Coniing to the budget, my han. friend fertilisers has been doubled during the opposite h~d said that this was not a year and provision has been made for budget for the janata. I do not under- minor irrigation. These are things which 13LSSCCP)/68-11 3003 B.G.-Gen. Vi,. MARCH II. ~ B.G.-Gel!. Dis. 3004

[Shri A. T. Sarma] MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He is oITering his v:ews. He might be allowed the cultivator wants. What is our defi- to proceed. cit in food? Only 7 per cent. If we improve our cultivation system, We can SHRI A. T. SARMA: It may be due make it up. to oversight. I am reminding him of it. For this, I suggest three things. First, Coming to the second suggestion, we there are vast lands lying uncultivated. find in every department there is in- Even in my State, there are 72 thousand crease in expenditure. The postal depart- acres wh:ch are not under cultivation. ment has increase its expendi'ure by Sim'lar is the position in every other Rs. 22 crores and in the railways there State. If We improve these lands and is a deficit of Rs. 40 crores. They are bring them under cultivation, We can get increasing their expenditure. For this enough production to meet our deficit. only Gandhism is the remedy. Gandhiji So this must be attended to. Secondly, used to say that there should not be any as a member of the Rice Research Com- officer drawing more than Rs. 500. We mittee, I know there are 300 varieties haVe to adopt social reform of our of seeds which require less of water and Government. The Finance Minister has time but are high-yielding. But these announced the appointment of a Finance have not been used. If these are utilised, Commission, I suggest that the Finance We would get an abundant crop every Commission should consider this item year. With one variety, Taichung also. If we do not touch the existing Native, We get three to four times the staff and introduce it only in respect of normal crop. If these seeds are used, future recruitment, I think there will be then we can considerably increase our DO difficulty at all. The salaries of every production. one from the President downwards to Grade I officer should be revised Thirdly, the agency system should be thoroughly. discontinued. At present, the cultivator does not get his requirements direct The third suggestion is about re- from Government but through agents trenchment of officers. Every depart- and sub-agents. Thereby he is losing a ment wants to increase its staff by add- lot. That is why it leads to a rise in ing some members during the year. That his cost of production. If we abolish tendency should be given up in toto. this system and give these things direct There should not be overstaffing of any to the cultivator ... department. As Vice-President of the District Board, once we appointed a re- AN HON. MEMBER: From where? trenchment committee, and they sug- SHRI A. T. SARMA: From govern- gested something the result of wh:ch was ment stores or co-operative stores, not that some posts of clerks and peons through agents. were abol:shed. So, here, the retrench- ment should not affect the Class III and Then I would suggest some new Class IV employees of the Government. sources of revenue. Our Finance Minis- It should effect the Grade I and Grade ter has tried his best to make up the II officers. Thereby, we will save a lot deficit by enhancing taxes and other of money and can utilise it more use- things. I will suggest some things wh'ch fully. are not pleasant. First of all, we should abolish the privy purses. No attempt The country is full of mines. I am has been made in this direction. This speaking from the experience of my own step was approved by the AlCC. It was State. If these means are worked pro- discussed and the House has given full perly, we can get more money, there is support to it. But it has not materialis- no doubt. Proper acf on should be takeD ed yet. I would draw the Finance' for that. Also, by developing tourism Minister's attention to this. we can earn a lot of foreign exchange. So, I want the Finance Minister to pay SHRI UMANATII: Why not mate- attention to these points and balance the rialised? budget next year. 3005 B.G.-Gtn. DI.r. PHALOUNA 21, 1889 (SAlU.) B.G.-Gft. DI6. 3006

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My first suggestion is about the mOIleY because he is compelled to raise it. 1 .order commission. The Finance Minis- find from the table of the dearness al- Jer has increased it from IS p. Ito 20 p. lowance that in 1964-65, it wa about for very rise and, I find, that is 'II steep Rs. 10.40 crores and now this year, it rise 'in the commission. If we take into will go perhaps to Rs. 30 crores. So, consideration the pattern of our indus- the increase in deames allowance itself trial labour, I submit, that almost all is about Rs. 20 crores. I think, we the industrial labour who are in. lakhs should sympathise with him rather make comes from the villages and, as their a harsh criticism on this point. aiie~ stary in the villages, they are required to send some help to their My second suggestion is that the family members. The indu9trial labour Bokaro Steel Plant project should be postponed for at least 2 years. That will be hit by this increase. So, I sub- mit that at least the money order com- will reduce the deficit financing. I do mission should not be increased, up to not agree with Mr. Salve but I agree with Mr. Humayun Kabir and Mr. M.O. of Rs. 50)-. Masani that it is not absolutely neces- Then, about the inland letters, it is 10 sary, I submit that it will be unwise on p. per inland letter which is proposed to our part to invest so much money spe- be increased to IS p. If we look at the cially when we know that these steel Tariff Enquiry Committee's Report, it plants arc not a paying concero for the says that this service gives more than present. Let us wait for two years and Rs. 8 crores of profit on this service. see whether the public sector is going So, my submissi0n is ~hat it is unjustified to give us the expected revenue and then to increase the price inland letters. It we can invest the money. That is my at all the Finance Minister wants to in- second suggestion. These are the oaly crease it, he will be justified only to two suggestions about the budget pro- the extent of ,:he cost of production posals ...... of the inland letter. The Report itself SHRI BAKAR ALI MIRZA (Secun- says that its cost between 11 to 12 p. derabad) : What about tobacco? May submission is th3i: if the Finance SHRI RANE: I am not interested in Minister wants to increase it, he can tobacco. only increase it to the extent of the cost of 12 p. per inland letter. AN HON. MEMBER: What about beedi? About ~e post-card, the Enquiry Committee Report says that more than SHRI RANE: I am not imerested in Rs' 5 crores are the losses on this ser- beedi or cigarettes or even whisky or vice. If we take the whole increase, the brandy. I am glad that there is an in- increase on inland leters is SO per cent; crease there. on the envelope, i.t is 33 per cent while My third submission is about remun- the post-card, it is 66 per cent. My erative prices to the farmers. I am glad submission is that, taking into consi- tii"t the Finance Minister, in his speech, deration the production cost of the post- has said that an assuranCe of remune- card, etc., I!he increase should not be J ative prices to the farmers should be the exleRt of 66 per cent but at the most given. But I am afraid that they wil: he can make it 8 p. per post-card, not nol be able to implement it. There IS 10 P. That is a steep rise and, I submit, a long history behind it. For the last thaot the Finance Minister should consi- 25 years, several ci~ee sat and der my proposal and, I say, he will not they advocated remunerative and fair lose anything. You will find that the prices to the farmers, but when the time loslCs on the postal service are about came, nothing was done; even the Agri- Rs. 23 crores. He seeks to get, by tax- cultural Prices Commission did not give ation, about Rs. 26 crores. So, even fair an.d remunerative prices to the far- if he accepts my ~c~ti. ht is nO( mers. On 4he other hand. they gave up going to lOse very much. Therefore, at that principle in favour of fixing ad hoc least the postal taxation. can be balanc- prices. There is no necessity to appoint ed. Of course, there is a very harsh cri- an Agricultural Prices Commission if ticism about it. But I can understand prices of agricultural commodities are the diic:~ie of the FinanCe Minister to he fixed on an ad hoc basis. 3019 B.G.-Gell. Dis. MARCH 11, 1968 B.G.-Gell. Dis. 3020

[Shri Ranel one. These cycles play their "wn part. The Finance Minister or the Minister And yet many of ¢he theonses and pro- of Agriculture can ask his officers to fessors of agriculture and the oeople in sit and ask them to give ad hoc prices the Planning Commission have this idea where is the necessity for employing all that the agriculturists have becc~ rich these theorists, academicians, professors, or they have become prosperou. and etc., and making them sit on the agricul- their position has improved. They do tural prices commission and give a re- not take into consideration how risky the port if they are going to fix prices on an life of the agriculturist is. c~ me gh,' ad hoc basis? you an example. In Maharashtrr., for instance. in November. the season was Now what is the position today? Thc very good and a very good harvest was, jlllte prices have gone down beiow the expected. But unseasonal lains in De- floor prices. This morning I read in the cember and aJnuary have destroyed the papers that even today the jute mills as- kharif crop to a large ellitenl. The rabi sociation is not willing to purchase jute. crops were god in the cas!! of je,war, The price in 1966 and in the bcgmning wheat etc. But the hailstonl' in Febru- of 1967 was, I think, about Rs. 65 per- ury and the first week of March has maund, and now I am told that the price destroyed the rabi crop and the rabi is about Rs. 25 to 30. There is such crop is almost gone. The h~ri crop is a steep fall in raw jute prices! also gone. That is how the farmers' About cotton also, the story is the fortune is affeoted. And yet the profes- same. In November. in my district, sors and the theorists and the Planning jarilla cobton was sold at Rs. 250 per Commission think that the position of quintal. The textile mill-onwers associ- the agriculturist has improved 'and he ation and the textile mills have decided has become prosperous and. therefore, not to purchase it now. There are no they could get money from him. These purchasers and the price prevaihng to- are wrong ideas which thO'ie er~ day ID the market for jarilla collton is who have no experience of the life of onJy Rs. 140 to 160. The pice of raw the agriculturist advocate' III theory. cotton has gone down. Bul as I have submitted already. Shri The story is the same with regard to M. R: Masani's criticism thllt the agri- foodgrains also. I have come to the culturist has been neglected by Govern- conclusion that the policy of tite Gov- men,: is not correct. Government have ernmen,t is: the, bumper the crop. th(' done many things for (he agriculturist. lesser the prices for the farmers. Of Even the speech of the FUlance Minis- course, this is a principle in economics; ter shows what he is going to do. the fOrces of supply and demand play their role. But when the prices of agri- Shri Kanwar La! Gupta and uthers cultural commodities go up, then tnc have said that during (he last te~ restrictions come, a heavy hand falls on years nothing has been done and so on. the farmers and they are not able to eet This criticism is unjustified. I shall just the prices that they deserve 10 get. My quote one small passage from Mr. submission is that the Finance Minister J. R. D. Tala's speech, which he re- should try to implement ~he a&surance cently made before the Chllmber of that he has given in his speech. This Commerce. He says: is my submission about remunerative and fair prices to farmers. "I for one am not one of those who see nothing good in what Government Mr. Mas'ani has stated that the Gov- has done for the country since Inde- ernment has neglected agriculture. I pendence. If we rightly bl'ame them do nO¢ agree with him here. Of course. for out lack of rr~ In cenain there are very few people who can spheres. it is only right lhat we should understand the life of agriLulturists. recognise the part they have played From my own experience during the in the coD8iderable progress we have las 50 years, I can say that in agricul- made, some of it quite spectacular by ture, there are cycles of SCa:;"flS: one- any standard in the fields of health. year is a normal or good season; the se- edUaalion. electrification. science. cond is a fair one and the third is n bad technology and heavy mdustry." 3021 B.G.-Gen. Dis. PHALGUNA 21, 1889 (SAKA) B.G.-Ge". Dis. 3022

This is the admission of even a very Minister that he should look into the hard critic like Mr. I. R. D. Tata who problem of giving rr.munerative prices does not see eye to eye with the policies to the farmer. of Government. Even be has admitted that much progress bas been made, and .n '!""' 'W"t ~r ~ : he says, by any standard. So, the criti- "'''1IIIq,<'1" ~ i!iW ~ ?ffir ~ cism that nothing has happened during these twemty years is absolutely wrong i"~ ilr.rT ~ ~ 1 ~ii ~ if ~ and unjustmed. ti~ ii~ ~iiir ~t Sir, I am not an eocnom;st. I do not ~ am: ~ ~ 1ft ~ it;~. understand very much the principles of "* ~"~ ~;;;:rr""t.~~ 1 ~ii economics and so on, but I would like to say one thing about deficit finanCing. ~it"";;rWii~ii~~ The Finance Mini5tcr's eApectations las: ~ ifii; ~~~ ~~ fit; ~i year have been belied. Though he ex- pected that there would not be any ~~ ~ fit; ~ iii ~ ~ am: deficit in the budget it has come to about ~~

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~ ~i~ ~tiit~~~; ::a !!!H H!;!i iiH i~t~;-. ~ii~ti~~ I h ~~Ii'" ~J< ilt .. ~ j-w~H ~ 'i i~;~ H 'I< ~ P L"'"' - tHi I .;i~t-i~i.i:i~ii.i:;i i ~~~~~~ci:~;~i~ trr....~i~~~~~ .....~ ~:~~ ~~~i i;i~~;~~ i.i:~;i~ri ~;d~i~~rii~i 01 ...... ~-i ~.ttc~ .~~ . i ~;;.~ ~- ~Ii -i ctr: Ii ~~. ~r;., ~ ~ ~t_ e••• ~t. ~i. ~ 3061 Cor,.ee/ion 0/ AflSIt'Cr PHALGUNA 21,1889 (SAKA) S/Ildy 01 Hindi 3062: , /0 QRel/iOll in Madras Schools (B.A.H. Dis.) fiI;lIl '1ft tmr.r If;T ~ ~ ~~. 18.30 Has. . ~ ~~ ·STUDY OF HINDI IN SCHOOLS CIITm1ti t I am: m1:1' iliT ~ ii~ I "" m. mm am: :a"lTtl:fe; ~~. ;ffffi lNf ~ f'len "TTifif"t:q- fom l!'<;ff : I1'Wf ~ ~ ~ ~ f'!/l8fT ~ ~r-e ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ t·rr '}:m frm : 3I: ~i >fT>: '1Twf;ri ~ ~ if.ir WiJ 5f1"9' rt. ~ I f'1i1lT'1'f >f1< i~" f'f."('RT fllTf"-l'l'f for the excellent budget which he has ~ f'lo '3''1 'lor ~ ... -iT ~ crr~r lZ'f." 51"'"",' if, presented before the House and for hav- 2.l''Ff1 -n::OCT ~;; 5fifo"f<: if,"r 'if)q-urr ."~ ing created confidence in the country. ;;1' ~ l'ilT 3TRf:R ~ "~ l[T Tf"7.f ~ 'f.T If?. 5fl!if <1lT"1'T ~ 5T ~ trT 18.29 Hrs, 3lT< '3';; .,;,,, '1T ~ mcft' if ~~ei" CORRECfION OF ANSWER TO S. "1I':ff ~ 5f'IT'T ;;m 'f."T ~t iffI' lfT, Q. No. 111 RE-STUDY OF HINDI IN >frO' '3';; ~ q-r 5ff'1.Q ~. ~ 3!l'iT '1fT SCHOOLS IN MADRAS ;i;!fT>: -q: ~. '-1') ~~ if am- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION ~" ~ "m ",I' ""-iM';;r ~ '1l1lT ~ (DR. TRlGUNA SEN) : In reply to a 'f.T ir~ ~i 'I1TqT "~ 'f."T "~ fif,"lfT Starred Question No. 111 by Sarvashri K. N. Pandey. Rabi Ray, Kanwarlal "-iT 2.l'r.- ifo"il)' lfT f.-r. lfr.T n:: q-r ~ i~ ~ 'f."f <'ITli ~ ShalwaIa, N. S. Sharma, Jugal MondaI. ~ ~ ~ C. K. Bhattacharyya, Mohsin and Deo t I lfl[ ml"T 'lW>T 51""0">:' Rao PatH, answered in this Sabha on "l'IfT ""-irf'i:T if' ~" "m If;T m tion on three-language formula passed ~ ~. am: ~ !:;; 5I"'f.T>: it ~ : by the Madras Legislative Assembly had been received in the Government of ~;; "l'IfT afT[ ~r;. n:mnit li India. It has later been found thaot a 1I1 'lA Cf!fl ~ :12 f:1I1' ~ ~ 3 5 ~ copy of such a Resolution had been ~~ ~ ~ ~i (i received. The matter is under consi- ;;;r. 'i9ref l1fhrf"'Rf I I 9 7 deration of the Government. I regret ;f' 25. 509 ~.;; ~ :~ the inconvenience to the Honourable ~ ~rt -q: ~"i ~: ~ ~ House. ~" ~ ~ 7.273 'iJ111f l'f if,"T n:TefT Sir, I give my sincere apologies for ~ ~r 9'n: I ~.: ~ lfl[ CfPr the incorrect reply given to the question m-r earlier. ~"t:- t R; lffiFfT3TT ifo") 1i6!I'T ~i 'HaJr-AD-Hour Discussion. 3063 I,..y oj MAltOR ft, 1MB Nirtdf ilJ Mllllfa 3064 SchHII (·N.A.II. DI/.r.) ""~~ ~ ar~ ~r lITif f.;m lII'R"1' ~~~~r.r~~ 60 ~ " 'U':Jq' 1I'm If>T mla' W3IT ~ 1ft lfRrq lIfr I ~~ ~~ ~ tffi-Iffi: qm ~~""i~~iti~ t ~ W ~ If>T sr;m: ~ "'" ~~~~~~~ ~ m 'fT am: ~:-~: ~ amrr "" fir. ~~~~~~~ 3O'lT ~~~~~ ~ 'U':Jq' 'Ifm ~r ~r ~ ft;riJ 1fT ~t~~~~ I ~- !;!fA' m-r;;rr;rr ;nfWiJ 'fT, ~ .;~~i ~~ ~ 1f1'fT1j;l ~ m-r '1'lfT I ~~ ft;riJ 1fT R1tiT ~ 1m' ar:a~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ gatT, am: ~ ~ ~ tr) ;m fir. ~ 11m If>T ~ ~ ~ ..rt m-r ;m, 1 963 ~ 3IT ~ ~ trr 'U'il1 'Ifm fwlflf>' am: ~~ t;:~ ~~;r 3f1ft ~ ~ rn 't1T a~ aq1flf g"( am: f1t:!IT, ~r 1tNr ~ ~ '1'r ~ 'Ifm ~ ~ ~ ~ #lfr .t~ it 1'ffi:-m't ~ ~ ~r lIfr I i'ffit;;r 3fI1l ~err if; ~ ~ fS :mT ~ ~ ~~ ~ 'fT ~ "r'" ~~r~~r~ I .;;rr ;r;;n3lm"l- ~~i~~it;a::~~ ~ ~ 'fT ~ ~ 'fT flti ;;rif CAi mtvr T ~i lfl!.1I' ~ ~ 3{TlfT I lfflf'l' ~ \lI'ltf if; ~ ~ amrrr ~ ;;ncflf) I atTOO'- 11m ~ it; m'f lffifl1r ~ If>T ~ If>T art1nrTlf ~ "'Ifr i!W 'fT fit; ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~r ~ ~r ~ ~c hr lff f"" ~ ~t 'f ~ I 3fi1' ~~ ~ lffi;r ~ ~i ~ ~~~ If>T 'fT ~~~t""~t~;;r :mT ~~ ~ ~ ifn:·:rT't ~itr !f.'ft i!W ~r I ~ lifT ~r ;r~ I pIT ~ ~ fiI; ~~ f""if ~ 'lfTlfT it; ~ ~ it;~r ~ ~ ~ ~ 6'3IT f;;r1Vf.t ~ lfiT ~~ ;r ~r ~t ~r am: ~ <¢\' 'ffm ~ i~ ;;rrq. .;~ ~~ tri '1'lfT I .,fi:e ~ ~ I ~~ f<'l'if '1't -.:~ ~ "~~~~r~a:~ ~ ~i~~ laJr I 13IT ~ flfi fi;rn ~ 'U'il1 'ffm PHALOUNA 21', 1119 (SAICA) HIM; 1/1 MfIII'" 3066 Schoou (H.AR. DU.) ~ mTlAi mr 13fT, ~ ~ CI'IIi m ~r I ~~~t~ ~ "" am: it;~ lf1tm: 'fiT lfft:rfJrRfT ~~ta:~r~~~ ~ .q ~r v(t, ~ ~ ~ ~ 11ft 3I'ttfmlffT'IfrofT ~ 31T!m:1R ~~ ~~.~ tt~~ "~~tr ~~;;r~ I r"i~~~~ ~ ~ ~. l!iW "mOT Wfit; ~ ~ ~ ~ 'iT ~r mrftf ~ I am f1reTr TfEfr ~ it ~ ~i ~ ~ "U'J'f trm Wma-if fm'fi' 'IT<< ~r.t if; q;r'i"" q if; ~~ ~ "iI"n:1 ~ 'i) ar;r 'fi'T m It>'iV<< t~~ ~~ ~~rt am: ~ 'IT ~ miffr Ifft ;fOifi ~ ~ ~ ~it ~ ;;r) 'fiTl{"" I ~ fEf"ITI!IT q:;!1f;:n ~ ~ 1fNUT ;nA; ~ ~ '1"T ~ mr, ~t ~ It>'T mrr ~ 13f1, i~-r ~ ~ 'IlfT I :~ ft;rlf in:r ~ arn:N ~ ~~i It>'T mrr lffC(f W3fT, ~ .~" ~ ~t ~ "~ if;;r't '1"T i!6lf ;~rr~ rrW~ ~t~ ~~.h: ~ ~ ~ ~arr~it;~~it~~t~ ~ '51'1" ~ ~~~. I ~ if; ~ amno: awT ~i-~cr~~ ~ """ It>'{ 23 ;;rrr;n:r 'fi) ;;ft ~~ ~ 'fir ~ 'IfllfTq ~ iifTir 'fiT f.fNvrr Ifft 31'1< ~i~~~::;r a "3'm ~-ri ~ ~ ~ I '!Q[l aiR ar~ ~ fum ~cr ~ ~ Jf1flc;:r i~~t~itt~ ~~tr I ~ ~ ~ ~ R ~ fT't ~ fit>' t:t1lfT ar;r l ;;rrrrifr r~ ~ f'fi ir~ if; ~hirr l?'fi<'Il if; f""lf if OR"3'iT ~ ~ ~rr ~ fClvcml'" 1<:1 f'fi'lIT 'IlfT lfT lfgt irn f'fi ~ ~ 'fiff ar~ "",,T ~ IR fit;In tfl1T? it~ 'fi'r amcmr;r if) ~r '1"T 'WIT ~ if) ~ lIT rr ~ a't ~ 'IT f'fi' lfi! r~-t ~ ~i 31'1< ~ iiIV'r ~ ~t" t~ ~ tfl1T I if) 'fir 'flIT ? ~ ~ 2400 ~-ri;;t ~ if; ~ arrii~~~~~~ I 'f "3'fl\' fri ;;f/f\ltT 5 000 ar!ilfT'l"1r. :ij- i;~ l{ ~ if f'l'iT f'l'iT ~t 'fi'T ~ ~i~ I Mii~ii~it.~ am: ~~ ~ ~i ~ ~ if; fPf1lTlfT 1I')"3'm ~ii 9' att~~ ~ ~ I ~ "i~ arrtrn if ~ ~t.rr ~a I ~ iff If{ It>'(p' ;;rr(fT ~ f'fi' t-~t ~;rr ~i rr~ ~t.rr r~ fif, "~ ~~ ;ffi'i!!f, ~ii ~ ~ ~i ~ fric t m i~ 'fi'r 'fi';" ~ ~ floor of the House and whether they would come forward with necessary r:r: ~. ~ m:m ~ fm: ~ ~ it .m ~ ~ I ~ armr lfoT ~ ~ fum lfef ~ <'iT ~; ~ ~at ~ lJ f.m<;rr ~ I ~ lfm:UT ~ ~ ~ ~ frocr 'fllT t ? if; fvrmi ~ it '1ft ~ aflfil': fIT ;nz ~ I SOME HON. MEMBERS role- 1l ;;nom ~ ~ fit; ~ ~ it MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am .~~~"~ta:~ JowiDg only those who have given tbT .~.~;tt~"~~ ;m ~ names even at the late stase. It is 'fY difficult to accommodate olhers. I ca40 t ~iait~~~a~ allow everybody. . . .~ ~ .., ~ ~ fiI;lrr 'I1IT t ? SHRI SEZHIYAN (KumbakoallD) :: ~ ,fiI;lrr 'I1IT ;m ~ fiI;lrr .0fIR t m May I know after the ~a"" .~ formula which W8I enunciated fat .aU' 3071 Sludy 0/ MARCH II, 19611 Hindi in MIIiI,. 3072 Schools (HoAH. D,i.r.) IShri Sezbiyan) SHRI SBZHIYAN : One more usur- the, States in India was fonowed and im- ance. plemented in Hindi States in 4:Onlrast with ¢he hon-Hindi States? May I also DR. TRIGUNA SEN: Some other know whether the hon. Minister is aware proposals for remOving the grievance that, afler passing the Resolution in the about inequality of burden are also being Madras Assembly, the Chief Minister considered by the Home Mlnimy aDd and the Education Minister have cate- the Government as a whole. But UD- gorically stated that no Hindi teacher fonunately, this question of lanjuage will be rendered jobless, that no one will continues to excit too much passions and be thrown out of employment and that emotion. and is proving a hindrance in 'all will be absorbed in 4he existing edu- evolvig a consensus on the whole sub- cational institutions? ject.

DR. MELKOTE (Hyderabad) : WiIl Sir, the Prime Minister, in her reply the hon. Minister please clarify whether !o the debate on the President's Address, it is not a fact that the Dakshin Bharat In Lok Sabha, on the 23rd February Hindi Prachar Sabha does not belong pointed out that in the present cliJnate. only to Madras State but it belongs also the less we talk about the language pro- to Kerala, Andhra Pradesh and Mysore blems, the better for the tempers to come and, in view of this, and also in view of down. Once the tempers have come the grant received from the Centre for down and a favourable climate created, the benefit of all the four States, will he we will all be in a better position to sit cClDsider the feasibility of shifting it to together and discuss the problem and try Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, which is a to find a solution which will slrengtilen more suitable place? the unity of the country ~d facilitate communication between the px1pIe of this country at !}II levels, and in all W8Ib THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION of life. Now, in so far as the question (DR. TRIGUNA SEN) : Mr. Deputy- of the three-language formula is 4:On- Spealter Sir, several of the hon. Mem- cemed. I wish to take this opportunity bers have taken plI¢ in this discussion. to point out that education, as rightly I have pointed out the recent decision. of said by my hon. friend, Shri Nambiar. the Madras Government to remove the is a State subject, the implementation of teaching of Hindi at the school stage and this fOTlllula in different States has not to sorap the three-language formula. But resulted from any direction of the Q:n- these are not isolated educational deci- tral Government. It emanated from the sions. These are corollaries to the stand consensus reached amongst othen bet- taken by the Madras Government on the ween the Chief Ministers of different basic question of the official language. States.

The Madras Assembly e~i SHRI PRAKASH VIR SHASTRI: urges that the Union Government should Inculding Mardras. forthwith susped the operation of the Official Languages (Amendment) Act, 1967 as well as the Resolution on the DR. TRIGUNA SEN: The Central language policy as this would impose an. Government believes that this formula additional language burden on the peo- and its effective implementation at ple in the non-Hindi States. I might re- schools will offer a satisfactory solution call, as mentioned, by Shaslriji also, that to the language problem. I have DO' Shri Y. B. Chavan, the Home Minister, doubt that. one a national solution to while replying to the debate in the the language problem has been found. Rajya Sabba, on the Resolu4ion, had the language policy In the schools of held out an assurance tbat this inequa- that State, I mean the Madras ...... lity of bunIm otWld ,be reduced by full will have no diftlculty in adjusting iDelf implementlldoD of tile three-IaDIJU8P sultably. I would have been happier if formula. the Madras Government dad DOl decId- 3073 SlUdyof PHALGUNA 21, Ul89 (SAKA) Hindi ill Madras 3074 Schoou (H.A.H. J)js.) ed to do away with the 3-laosuage for- He shol,lld allowe me to finish my aen- mula, wilen the llesolution of the Mad- teDce ••.••• ras Assembly itself clearly seeks. SHlU S. KANDAPPAN: -rw. is a "To request the Union GovommeDI very ~ statement to ~e. Tbcre 10 convene a high level conference of has been .QO retrenchment whatloeYcr. leaders of aU political parties to re- e~ the language problem 'aDd MR. DBPUTY-5PEAKER.: Order. devise a method to remOVe C.bc hard- order. Does the Minister nQt recoaniae ship caused by the language Resolu- the seriousness of the problem? tion passed along with the Official Languages (Amendment) Act, 1967." SHRI S. KANDAPPAN: I think, he does not. - Perhaps, after making this appeal, they could· hIn'e waited before taking this DR. TRIGUNA SEN: Please allow step. . • . .. (Interruptions) Since the me to finish what I want to say. The 3-language formula had already been jn hon. Member does not listen to me, but operation in the Madras State, to my only goes on 'asking questions and rais- mind, it would have been beller to let ing points of order, it continUe do operate till the recommen- dations of the high level conference en- visaged in the Resolution of the Madras Here also, I think, the picture is not Assembly itself became available. How- so bad. Although we haVe no exact in- formation from the State Govemment ever, I am an optimist and I strongly believe that, once a satisfactory solution on this malter, I wish to read oot to you from the Education Department order to the r~ has been found, the language 1folicy of the Madras Govcm- dated the 24th January, 1968. nis order clearly provides : ment will also have no serious difficulty in readjusting itself accordingly. 'The Government desires to make it clear in this connection that every The question raised by the hon. mem- effort will be made to absorb the exist- ben regarding dhe future of a large num- ing Hindi teachers in suitable posts ber of Hindi teachers In Madras SIllte IS, for which they are found qualified." of course, a serious human problem. I think, it will be a bad day for any State -t~~ ~~a:t Government to dispense with the set'- : vices of a large number of its loyal ~ 1l ifCIlf(;,CfiI'C ~ ~ t,; ~ ~ teachers in pursuance of, what can only ~~ be called, a snap decision. But here also ...... (Interruptions) SHRI V KRISHNAMOORTHI: Let them bother themlCl ves about the SHRI S. KANDAPPAN: On a point teachers in their own area. Let them of order. not bother about the teachers in our area; we will take care of 4hem. His statement will only complicate the situation in the Madras Slate. I SHRI S. KANDAPPAN: They have would like to know from the hon. rather been paid without ally work. Not Minister whether he has got any infor- a lIingle teacher has been retrencbed. mation that. after the passing of the R.e- solution, any Hindi teacher has been re- DR. TRIGUNA SEN: I have DO trenched. If there is no intemation to doubt that. in keeping with the spirit of that effect, he should IIDt mab that this order of the Slate GoVenlJIIeIlt, statement. they wiD view the whole queation with utmost sympathy and talee fIVery pouI- DR. TRIGUNA SEN: Tbe boa. ble step to remove any bardlbip libly member ehould bave some ,aIieDce. to be caU1e4 to the HlDdi u.obID ot 3075 Swdy of MARCH 11, 1968 Hi,uli in Madras 3076 Schools (H.A.H. Dis.) [Dr. Triguna Sen) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The the State on account of tbe implementa- House stands adjourned to meet against tion of the State policy. I may say at 11 A.M. tomorrow. here that ithe Madras Education Minis- ter, Shri Nedunchezhiyan, is personally known to me; I have high regard for rus 19 Hrs; understanding and sympathetic approach to problems affecting teachers and I have The Lok Sabha then adiournN till no doubt in my mind that the intere!t.s Eleven of the Clock on Tuesday, March of these teachers are safe in his hands. 12, 1889 (Saka).

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