As in Galileo’s’ time, persecution continues in Knanaya based on false beliefs and claims

By

Alex Kavumpurath

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േപാ് ഗിഗറി പതിമൂാമെറ നിർേശമനുസരി്, കോലിാ പുേരാഹിതരുെട േനതൃതിൽ ബൂേണാ എ നിരപരാധിയായ പിതെന (ഇലി,1600) കൂരമായി പീഡിി്, നാിൽ ആണിയടി്, ബി്, അവേഹളി്, െതരുവിലൂെട നടി്, പരസമായി കി െകാലു. വിവരൾ ലിിൽ. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno

ഇതുേപാെല അമായ വിശാസളെട േപരിൽ എത ആയിരൾ െകാലെിരിുു , െകാലെടുു, ഉപദവിെടുു.

Centuries ago when scientists like Bruno and Galileo presented their scientific evidences proving that the earth is not flat and the Sun does not rotate around the earth as taught by the Church, the Catholic hierarchy was not willing to accept the truth. Instead of changing their dogmas by accepting the truth, they killed and persecuted the scientists.

This attitude continues in Knanaya community today. They are led by blind beliefs and false claims. Even though we provided to Knanaya bishops, priests and community leaders DNA test results of more than 120 Knanaites showing close to100% Indian DNA for Knanaites of today (see attached), they are not willing to accept the truth. They still teach that Knanaya is an endogamous Jewish community and continue the practice of exclusion to maintain the non-existing purity. They are weakening the Knanaya community by excluding our children who marry from outside instead of assimilating them to our community. It is so sad to see, like in Galileo’s’ time, persecution still continues in Knanaya based on false beliefs and claims.

Alex Kavumpurath National Coordinator, KANA Attached for your information is a list of 200 of my DNA relatives (last/family names were deleted for privacy reason). I have sent messages to 125 people (from #3-102 - highest relationship and from #179-203 - lowest relationship) in the attached list and got confirmation from many of them that they are Knas, non-Knas or mixed-Knas. Some others who did not respond belong to famous Kna families, so they are most likely Knanaites (see the attached list). I have the following observations: 1. It is interesting to note that out of more than 10 million customers of 23andMe, only 570 of them are my DNA relatives and they are concentrated mainly in Kerala. 2. Knanaya has 98-100% Indian DNA. 3. Knanaya and other people of Kerala who are my DNA relatives have almost same DNA composition, 98-100% Indian DNA. 4. A few of my DNA relatives are not Keralites. They have totally different DNA composition and 23andMe appears to have identified them correctly. For examples, 2 Whites (# 173 and # 192) were identified as 99.4% to 100% Europeans, one mixed White and Korean (#158) was identified as European and East Asian, etc. 5. The closeness of relationship is predicted based on the length (cM) and number of identical segments of DNA we share. Based on this standard, the first 132 individuals in the attached list (from #3-135) are my closest relatives. Most of them are Knas and/or mixed Knas (see the list). 6. My DNA relatives who are Kerala Christians have common relatives in hundreds while others share only a few common relatives (see the list). 7. The most common Maternal Haplogroup for Knas is M33a2 which is common in India. Based on this, it is possible that we are recently related through a direct line of female ancestors, but it is also possible that we match because we share much older roots in the same part of the world. This group is not common among 23andMe customers who are mainly people of West. This is a DNA evidence of mixing with Kerala women. Another major Maternal Haplogroup for Kna is U1a3. 8. My Paternal Haplogroup is R-Y6. This paternal line stems from a branch of R-M420 called R-M512. This haplogroup is still relatively common in the Middle East, as well as in Central and South Asia. R-Y6 is relatively common among 23andMe customers. This is an evidence of Kna’s Middle Eastern origin. However, there is no dominant Paternal Haplogroup among Knas. That means our common lineage is mainly through our female ancestors. 9. While Knas are closely related, non-Kna relatives of Kerala do not have close relationship with their fellow Keralites. This appears to be because although they are married to fellow Keralites, they have no common lineage. 10. One of my DNA relative is an individual adopted by a European family and lives in Europe (# 14 in the list). As per the profile description she was born in a convent in Bangalore. Though she is not a member of the Kna community, she is genetically much more Kna than many others in the list. 11. Although analysis of different companies shows variances in DNA composition of individuals due to reference population in their data base, I wonder why 23andMe did not predict any clear pattern of at least “broad” Middle Eastern connection to Kna, if not to any particular community there. They do have Middle Eastern people in their data base and access to public data to compare. It may be because the present Knas do not have much DNA connection to Middle East. 12. Although the Knanaya as presently constituted is basically Indian, I do not dispute Middle Eastern origin of Knanaya since there is no dispute of Knai Thomman’s Middle Eastern origin. By the time they started to practice strict endogamy (a kind of cousin marriage), they almost became like other people of Kerala due to exogamous marriage. This nature will never change even if we include non-endogamous Kna families who marry others from Kerala. But the DNA composition will change if the children of Knas who migrated to America marry other people of America, but they still will be closely related. Based on the forgoing information, any sensible person would conclude that there is no justification for the practice of endogamy and exclusion to protect a non-existing Jewish purity. This is yet another reason, in addition to the orders from the Oriental Congregations and court, to end this uncivil, unchristian and illegal practice which is harmful to our community. Hope that the information provided here would persuade our spiritual and lay leaderships to take decisive action to end this practice before it damages the community further.

Alex Kavumpurath DNA Relatives List - Produced by 23andMe Ancestry Composition

Percent Genetic # of Predicted DNA # Segments Distance Maternal Paternal West common Display Name Sex Birth Year Relationship Shared Shared (cM) Haplogroup Haplogroup Kna based on Indian % Asian Others Relatives comment Jeff Male 2nd Cousin 3.73% 17 278cM M33a2 L-M27 Family 100 501 Nelson Male 2nd Cousin 2.77% 19 206cM M33a2 J-M68 Family 99.7 0.3 440 Cyril Male 2nd Cousin 2.57% 17 191cM M33a2 L-M27 Family 100 520 TONY Male 1985 2nd Cousin 2.51% 16 187cM M33a2 O-Page23 Profile 100 483 OMANA Female 2nd Cousin 2.43% 17 181cM M33a2 not confirmed 100 502 Rinly Male 2nd Cousin 2.29% 15 not shared M33a2 C-P92 not confirmed 419 Divya Female 2nd Cousin 2.26% 15 168cM M33a2 J-M68 not confirmed 99.4 0.5 0.1 483 Bennett Male 1970 2nd Cousin 2.22% 15 165cM U1a3 G-CTS11562 e-mail 100 503 AJ Male 2nd Cousin 2.17% 15 not shared e-mail 474 Aneesh Male 2nd Cousin 2.07% 14 154cM U1a3 J-M241 e-mail 100 513 Anitha Female 2nd Cousin 1.91% 14 142cM M33a2 Family 100 438 Molly Female 2nd Cousin 1.87% 14 139cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.9 0.1 511 adopted in Europe Appu Male 2nd Cousin 1.86% 14 139cM M33a2 L-M357 not confirmed 100 420 Mathew Male 2nd Cousin 1.81% 13 135cM M33a2 H-M69 e-mail 99.6 0.4 500 John Male 1992 2nd Cousin 1.81% 13 135cM M33a2 G-CTS11562 e-mail 99.4 0.6 439 Preethi Female 2nd Cousin 1.76% 13 131cM M33a2 e-mail 99.9 0.1 481 SM Female 1974 2nd Cousin 1.74% 13 130cM M33a2 Mixed -email 99.8 0.2 473 Nithin Male 2nd Cousin 1.71% 13 128cM M33a2 Q-L205.2 not confirmed 99.4 0.3 0.3 457 Jolsna Female 2nd Cousin 1.71% 13 128cM M33a2 e-mail 99.5 0.3 0.2 509 RJ Male 2nd Cousin 1.71% 13 not shared M33a2 L-M27 e-mail 449 Nikhil Male 2nd Cousin 1.71% 13 127cM M33a2 H-M69 e-mail 99.9 0.1 454 Mathew Male 2nd Cousin 1.68% 12 125cM M33a2 O-B418 e-mail 100 479 Ashwin Male 2nd Cousin 1.66% 12 124cM M33a2 L-M357 not confirmed 99.6 0.3 0.1 444 Veena Female 1976 2nd Cousin 1.61% 12 120cM M33a2 Family 100 497 Reah Female 2nd Cousin 1.58% 12 118cM M33a2 not confirmed 100 481 Joel Male 2nd Cousin 1.57% 13 118cM M33a2 R-M417 not confirmed 100 487 Clair Female 2nd Cousin 1.57% 13 118cM M33a2 Family 99.3 0.6 0.1 528 Philip Male 2nd Cousin 1.57% 12 118cM M33a2 L-M357 e-mail 99.8 0.2 498 Jobin Male 2nd Cousin 1.57% 13 117cM M33a2 C-P92 not confirmed 100 461 Vineet Male 2nd Cousin 1.55% 12 not shared M33a2 L-M22 not confirmed 454 Jerry Male 2nd Cousin 1.55% 12 116cM M33a2 R-Y6 e-mail 98.9 1 0.1 420 Molly Female 2nd Cousin 1.53% 12 114cM M33a2 H-Z5890 Family 99.8 0.2 462 Steven Male 2nd Cousin 1.51% 12 113cM M33a2 L-M27 e-mail 100 488 Lisha Female 2nd Cousin 1.50% 13 112cM U1a3 Family 100 493 Rojan Male 2nd Cousin 1.26% 11 94cM M33a2 J-M241 e-mail 99.8 0.2 504 Tony Male 2nd Cousin 1.15% 11 86cM M33a2 H-Z14258 Mixed -email 99.7 0.3 463 Binu Female 2nd Cousin 1.10% 11 82cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.9 0.1 494 SJ Female 2nd Cousin 2.10% 13 not shared M33a2 not confirmed 477 Minimol Female 2nd Cousin 1.93% 12 144cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.4 0.6 465 TJ Male 2nd Cousin 1.80% 11 not shared M39 Q-L205.2 not confirmed 424 LK Female 2nd Cousin 1.67% 9 not shared M33a2 R-M417 not confirmed 506 Elizabeth Female 1992 2nd Cousin 1.53% 11 115cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.5 0.5 439 Dale Male 2nd Cousin 1.49% 11 111cM M33a2 L-M357 Family 100 485 Akash Male 2nd Cousin 1.40% 11 not shared M33a2 C-K96 not confirmed 444 Aisha Female 2nd Cousin 1.38% 10 103cM M33a2 half Euro/SAsian 49.8 50.2 324 Ashley Female 1995 2nd Cousin 1.36% 11 102cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.4 0.4 0.2 430 WK Male 2nd Cousin 1.30% 10 not shared M33a2 L-M357 not confirmed 477 kevin Male 2nd Cousin 1.25% 9 93cM M4-64 J-M241 e-mail 100 455 SP Female 1972 2nd Cousin 1.24% 10 not shared M33a2 Kna Jacobite 394 Justeena Female 2nd Cousin 1.23% 10 92cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.9 0.1 488 JC Male 2nd Cousin 1.22% 9 not shared M33a2 R-M512 Family 484 JT Male 2nd Cousin 1.20% 10 not shared M33a2 C-P92 not confirmed 433 Sapana Female 1983 2nd Cousin 1.18% 10 88cM U1a3 H-M69 not confirmed 99.9 0.1 476 Irene Female 2nd Cousin 1.10% 10 82cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.9 0.1 463 Britney Female 1998 2nd Cousin 1.08% 9 81cM M33a2 Family 99.4 0.3 0.3 412 Lisa Female 3rd Cousin 1.38% 7 103cM M39 not confirmed 99.8 0.2 409 Sumy Female 3rd Cousin 1.32% 8 99cM M33a2 Family 99.7 0.2 0.1 506 Alisha Female 3rd Cousin 1.15% 8 not shared M33a2 not confirmed 508 Leeba Female 3rd Cousin 1.11% 7 83cM M33a2 not confirmed 100 490 Veena Female 3rd Cousin 1.09% 8 not shared U1a3 H-M69 not confirmed 464 Jebin Male 3rd Cousin 1.06% 9 80cM M33a2 L-M27 e-mail 100 503 RL Male 3rd Cousin 1.05% 9 not shared R30a R-M417 not confirmed 482 Vimal Male 3rd Cousin 1.05% 8 not shared U1a3 L-M27 not confirmed 460 Aleyamma Female 3rd Cousin 1.04% 9 not shared M33a2 not confirmed 462 Jacob Male 3rd Cousin 1.03% 9 not shared M33a2 H-M69 e-mail 505 SK Male 3rd Cousin 1.00% 9 75cM M33a2 L-M22 family 100 470 Jeremy Male 3rd Cousin 0.98% 7 73cM M33a2 L-M27 not confirmed 100 482 MJ Female 3rd Cousin 0.96% 9 not shared M33a2 not confirmed 461 Isaac Male 1993 3rd Cousin 0.95% 7 71cM M33a2 J-M241 e-mail 100 470 Donald Male 3rd Cousin 0.89% 7 67cM U1a3 J-L25 not confirmed 99.4 0.6 359 Jesleen Female 3rd Cousin 0.88% 7 66cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.3 0.3 0.3 409 Karuna famale 3rd Cousin 0.88% 7 66cM M33a2 e-mail 100 429 Jerin male 3rd Cousin 0.79% 8 60cM M33a2 G-Z30503 mixed 99.6 0.4 479 Tina Female 3rd Cousin 0.89% 8 67cM M33a2 Family 99.8 0.2 462 ST Male 3rd Cousin 0.88% 8 not shared M33a2 J-L24 Family 508 Nisa Female 1991 3rd Cousin 0.83% 8 62cM M33a2 Family 99.6 0.2 0.2 443 Stephen Male 3rd Cousin 0.76% 7 57cM M33a2 J-L25 mixed 99.9 0.1 441 Sanjeev Male 3rd Cousin 0.75% 7 56cM M33a2 H-Z5877 not confirmed 100 323 RYAN Male 3rd Cousin 0.75% 6 56cM M33a2 L-M27 not confirmed 100 513 Ashok Male 3rd Cousin 0.74% 7 56cM L2c R-L266 Trinidad Mix 46.3 0.4 53.3 403 Vipin Male 3rd Cousin 0.72% 7 54cM U1a3 L-M2481 e-mail 99.6 0.4 394 Anup Male 3rd Cousin 0.72% 7 54cM M33a2 L-M357 e-mail 100 444 Roger Male 3rd Cousin 0.71% 6 not shared not confirmed 441 Amelia Female 3rd Cousin 0.64% 6 48cM M33a2 R-Y6 mixed/Tamil 95.7 4.3 423 BP Female 3rd Cousin 0.64% 6 not shared M33a2 J-L24 mixed -email 520 Eathamma Female 3rd Cousin 0.60% 6 not shared non-Kna -email 473 TP Male 5th Cousin 3.08% 21 not shared M33a2 R-M417 Family 519 Aleyamma Female 5th Cousin 2.60% 20 194cM M33a2 e-mail 99.5 0.5 470 Cindy Female 5th Cousin 2.55% 20 190cM M33a2 not confirmed 100 514 Priscilla Female 5th Cousin 2.45% 18 183cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.8 0.2 433 Anson Male 5th Cousin 2.37% 18 177cM M33a2 C-P92 Family 99.9 0.1 492 Marykutty Female 5th Cousin 2.28% 20 170cM M33a2 not confirmed 99.6 0.4 452 Sandeep Male 5th Cousin 2.14% 16 160cM M33a2 R-M417 not confirmed 100 514 Elizabeth Female 5th Cousin 2.13% 16 159cM M33a2 e-mail 99.1 0.7 0.2 417 Bejoy Male 5th Cousin 2.06% 16 154cM M33a2 T-M70 e-mail 99.2 0.7 0.1 490 Sonia Female 2nd to Distant 1.93% 15 144cM M33a2 e-mail 99.9 0.1 414 BJ Male 5th Cousin 1.85% 15 not shared M33a2 L-M357 e-mail 481 Raju Male 5th Cousin 1.82% 16 not shared M33a2 H-Z5890 Family 438 stacy Female 5th Cousin 1.75% 14 130cM M33a2 e-mail 99.9 0.1 440 J J Male 5th Cousin 1.73% 15 129 cM M33a2 L-M357 not confirmed 100 434 Mary Female 6th Cousin 2.81% 23 M33a2 KK Male 6th Cousin 2.68% 22 M33a2 J-M241 Elgin Female 6th Cousin 2.50% 18 M33a2 Stebin Male 6th Cousin 2.40% 18 M33a2 J-M68 Jenny Female 1987 6th Cousin 2.28% 18 M33a2 L-M357 Nelson Male 6th Cousin 2.16% 19 M33a2 Q-L205.2 JB Male 6th Cousin 2.14% 17 M33a2 C-Z5899 Abby Male 6th Cousin 2.12% 17 M33a2 J-M241 Elsa Female 6th Cousin 2.03% 16 M33a2 Betcy Female 1987 6th Cousin 2.00% 15 M33a2 george Male 6th Cousin 1.98% 16 M33a2 L-M357 Joseph Male 1990 6th Cousin 1.94% 15 U1a3 L-M357 Jonathan Male 6th Cousin 1.93% 15 M33a2 C-P92 BP Male 1969 6th Cousin 1.90% 16 M33a2 R-Y6 RG Male 6th Cousin 1.76% 15 M33a2 R-M417 AT Female 6th Cousin 1.72% 14 U1a3 ST Male 1962 6th Cousin 1.72% 14 M33a2 L-M357 GA Male 1987 6th Cousin 1.71% 15 U1a3 L-M27 Meera Female 6th Cousin 1.69% 16 M33a2 Dee Female 6th Cousin 1.69% 14 M33a2 J-M241 Mark Male 6th Cousin 1.68% 14 M33a2 G-M342 SA Male 6th Cousin 1.67% 15 M33a2 J-M241 SALIM Male 1967 6th Cousin 1.64% 14 M33a2 C-P92 Shane Male 6th Cousin 1.47% 14 M33a2 L-M22 sunil Male 6th Cousin 1.45% 14 108cM M33a2 L-M22 99.7 0.3 476 Kevin Male 6th Cousin 1.42% 13 M33a2 L-M357 Minu Female 6th Cousin 1.37% 14 M33a2 Joe Male 1989 6th Cousin 1.24% 12 M33a2 C-M130 Amy Female 6th Cousin 1.24% 12 93cM M33a2 Family 100 478 Syriac Male 6th Cousin 1.05% 11 M33a2 O-F8 Dony Male 1989 6th Cousin 1.00% 10 R5a2 L-M357 Cyriac Male 1984 6th Cousin 0.87% 9 65cM M33a2 L-M2481 Family 99.7 0.3 485 Mathew Male 6th Cousin 0.81% 9 M33a2 Q-M346 PAUL Male 4th Cousin 0.39% 5 30cM M35a1 J-M241 100 400 JI Female 1970 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 not shared M35b 467 M Nair Female 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 8cM B2d Hispanic/Nair 7 Wendy Female 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 H6a1a Julian Male 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 U1a3 H-M52 Simon Male 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 R5a2b4 H-Z5890 Joel Male 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 R5a2b4 H-Z5890 Jerry Male 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 R5a2b4 Q-M346 Sonali Female 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 8cM U1a3 99.8 0.2 283 Deborah Female 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 N1a'c'd'e'I Joanna Female 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 R6a R-Z93 george Male 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 R5a2b4 L-M27 Utsav Male 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 R7a1 R-Y7 Alex Male 1985 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 M3 R-M512 Beetha Female 5th Cousin 0.11% 1 M6 Justin Male 1984 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 U7 L-M27 Krishnamurthy Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM M2b R-L295 Tamil 100 2 EV Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 H1 Justin Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 U1a3 H-M52 R V Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 R30 L-M27 B Switzer Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM H1c3 I-L22 Euro 0 Biju B Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 U2c R-M417 R Wharton Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM B4d1 Euro/Korean 1 Mary Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 M6 M Trainor Female 1945 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 I3 I-Z58 european 2 MV Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 R5a2b4 Pillai Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM M39 L-M27 Kerala Hindu 100 28 Paul N Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 M4c L-M27 gonzales Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM L3b1a R-L51 Euro/Hispanic 0 Vikram Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 M5a2a1 H-Z13871 R Matew Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 M35a1 J-M241 Rupa Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 M2a1 Bobby Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 M2a1 R-Y7 Joshua Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 U1a3 L-M27 Shaun Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM M2b R-L266 100 473 Sidin Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 M2 R-M417 RJ Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 M39b D Russell Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 T2b R-Y3141 white -profile 100 1 Santos Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM C1 R-Z16294 France/brazil 0.03 9.7 90 0 Mithun Male 1981 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM R5a2b4 R-Y6 Non-Kna Profile 99.9 0.1 464 Cherian Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 not shared M44a R-L266 491 ST Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 not shared D4g2a1 3 Tim Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM U1a3 Q-L205.2 99.8 0.2 489 Sheryl Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM M2b non-Kna email 99.9 0.1 366 Andrew Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM R5a2b4 R-M417 not confirmed 100 531 Jincy Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 not shared M35a1 not confirmed 471 Samson Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM U1a3 C-P92 not confirmed 100 449 Joseph Male 1988 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM U1a3 H-M52 Non-Kna email 99.4 0.6 499 Paul Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM M2b1 H-Z14258 non-Kna -email 99.8 0.2 269 MELVIN Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM U2e2 H-Z13871 not confirmed 100 325 Jomy Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM R5a2b4 R-L657 not confirmed 100 474 Anthony Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM U2b2 R-L266 not confirmed 99.2 0.8 65 Alvin Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM U1a3 L-M27 not confirmed 100 508 looks like a M/E A Attar Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM W3 R-Z93 not confirmed 24.7 72.6 2.7 3 Muslim Sara Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 not shared U1a3 not confirmed 225 Devatha Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM T2b Hindu 99.7 0.3 15 S Baker Female 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 8cM V White 0.01 99.9 2 Bose Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 not shared R5a2 L-M27 mixed -email 326 Ahin Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 not shared M39 F-M89 not confirmed 493 tinku Male 5th Cousin 0.10% 1 not shared R5a2b4 C-M130 non-Kna -email 543 Robin Male 5th Cousin 0.09% 1 not shared R5a2b4 L-M27 not confirmed 450 Leena Female 5th Cousin 0.09% 1 8cM M5a not confirmed 100 471 Uthayashanker Male 5th Cousin 0.09% 1 not shared M5a4 H-M52 Tamil/Kerala 86 Joseph Male 1942 5th Cousin 0.09% 1 8cM R5a2b4 Q-M346 not confirmed 100 461 Thresiamma Female 5th Cousin 0.09% 1 8cM M35a1 not confirmed 100 435 T A Female 5th Cousin 0.09% 1 8cM M3a1 not confirmed 99.7 0.2 0.1 470 Paris Female 5th Cousin 0.09% 1 8cM H2b R-M512 not confirmed 99.7 0.2 0.1 250 Aby Male 5th Cousin 0.09% 1 not shared M5a2a R-M417 not confirmed 375