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STATUS OF THE BOEING 737 MAX: STAKEHOLDER PERSPECTIVES (116–22) HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON AVIATION OF THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SIXTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION JUNE 19, 2019 Printed for the use of the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure ( Available online at: https://www.govinfo.gov/committee/house-transportation?path=/ browsecommittee/chamber/house/committee/transportation U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 37–476 PDF WASHINGTON : 2019 VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:46 Aug 29, 2019 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 P:\HEARINGS\116\AV\6-19-2~1\TRANSC~1\37476.TXT JEAN COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE PETER A. DEFAZIO, Oregon, Chair ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, SAM GRAVES, Missouri District of Columbia DON YOUNG, Alaska EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas ERIC A. ‘‘RICK’’ CRAWFORD, Arkansas ELIJAH E. CUMMINGS, Maryland BOB GIBBS, Ohio RICK LARSEN, Washington DANIEL WEBSTER, Florida GRACE F. NAPOLITANO, California THOMAS MASSIE, Kentucky DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois MARK MEADOWS, North Carolina STEVE COHEN, Tennessee SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey RODNEY DAVIS, Illinois JOHN GARAMENDI, California ROB WOODALL, Georgia HENRY C. ‘‘HANK’’ JOHNSON, JR., Georgia JOHN KATKO, New York ANDRE´ CARSON, Indiana BRIAN BABIN, Texas DINA TITUS, Nevada GARRET GRAVES, Louisiana SEAN PATRICK MALONEY, New York DAVID ROUZER, North Carolina JARED HUFFMAN, California MIKE BOST, Illinois JULIA BROWNLEY, California RANDY K. WEBER, SR., Texas FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida DOUG LAMALFA, California DONALD M. PAYNE, JR., New Jersey BRUCE WESTERMAN, Arkansas ALAN S. LOWENTHAL, California LLOYD SMUCKER, Pennsylvania MARK DESAULNIER, California PAUL MITCHELL, Michigan STACEY E. PLASKETT, Virgin Islands BRIAN J. MAST, Florida STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts MIKE GALLAGHER, Wisconsin SALUD O. CARBAJAL, California, Vice Chair GARY J. PALMER, Alabama ANTHONY G. BROWN, Maryland BRIAN K. FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania ADRIANO ESPAILLAT, New York JENNIFFER GONZA´ LEZ-COLO´ N, TOM MALINOWSKI, New Jersey Puerto Rico GREG STANTON, Arizona TROY BALDERSON, Ohio DEBBIE MUCARSEL-POWELL, Florida ROSS SPANO, Florida LIZZIE FLETCHER, Texas PETE STAUBER, Minnesota COLIN Z. ALLRED, Texas CAROL D. MILLER, West Virginia SHARICE DAVIDS, Kansas GREG PENCE, Indiana ABBY FINKENAUER, Iowa JESU´ S G. ‘‘CHUY’’ GARCI´A, Illinois ANTONIO DELGADO, New York CHRIS PAPPAS, New Hampshire ANGIE CRAIG, Minnesota HARLEY ROUDA, California (II) VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:46 Aug 29, 2019 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 0486 P:\HEARINGS\116\AV\6-19-2~1\TRANSC~1\37476.TXT JEAN SUBCOMMITTEE ON AVIATION RICK LARSEN, Washington, Chair ANDRE´ CARSON, Indiana GARRET GRAVES, Louisiana STACEY E. PLASKETT, Virgin Islands DON YOUNG, Alaska STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts DANIEL WEBSTER, Florida ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, THOMAS MASSIE, Kentucky District of Columbia SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois ROB WOODALL, Georgia STEVE COHEN, Tennessee JOHN KATKO, New York HENRY C. ‘‘HANK’’ JOHNSON, JR., Georgia DAVID ROUZER, North Carolina DINA TITUS, Nevada LLOYD SMUCKER, Pennsylvania JULIA BROWNLEY, California PAUL MITCHELL, Michigan ANTHONY G. BROWN, Maryland BRIAN J. MAST, Florida GREG STANTON, Arizona MIKE GALLAGHER, Wisconsin COLIN Z. ALLRED, Texas BRIAN K. FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania JESU´ S G. ‘‘CHUY’’ GARCI´A, Illinois TROY BALDERSON, Ohio EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas ROSS SPANO, Florida SEAN PATRICK MALONEY, New York PETE STAUBER, Minnesota DONALD M. PAYNE, JR., New Jersey SAM GRAVES, Missouri (Ex Officio) SHARICE DAVIDS, Kansas, Vice Chair ANGIE CRAIG, Minnesota GRACE F. NAPOLITANO, California SALUD O. CARBAJAL, California PETER A. DEFAZIO, Oregon (Ex Officio) (III) VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:46 Aug 29, 2019 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 0486 P:\HEARINGS\116\AV\6-19-2~1\TRANSC~1\37476.TXT JEAN VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:46 Aug 29, 2019 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 0486 P:\HEARINGS\116\AV\6-19-2~1\TRANSC~1\37476.TXT JEAN CONTENTS Page Summary of Subject Matter .................................................................................... vii STATEMENTS OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS Hon. Rick Larsen, a Representative in Congress from the State of Wash- ington, and Chair, Subcommittee on Aviation, opening statement ................. 1 Hon. Garret Graves, a Representative in Congress from the State of Lou- isiana, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Aviation: Opening statement ........................................................................................... 3 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 5 Hon. Peter A. DeFazio, a Representative in Congress from the State of Or- egon, and Chair, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, opening statement .............................................................................................................. 7 Hon. Sam Graves, a Representative in Congress from the State of Missouri, and Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure: Opening statement ........................................................................................... 9 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 11 WITNESSES Sharon Pinkerton, Senior Vice President, Legislative and Regulatory Policy, Airlines for America: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 12 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 14 Captain Daniel Carey, President, Allied Pilots Association: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 18 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 19 Captain Chesley B. ‘‘Sully’’ Sullenberger III, Pilot, US Airways (Retired): Oral statement .................................................................................................. 21 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 22 Sara Nelson, International President, Association of Flight Attendants— CWA, AFL–CIO: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 26 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 27 Hon. J. Randolph Babbitt, Former Administrator, Federal Aviation Adminis- tration: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 34 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 36 SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD Letter from Nadia Milleron and Michael Stumo, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Larsen ..................................................................................................... 6 Statement of Lori L. Bassani, National President, Association of Professional Flight Attendants, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Larsen ......................... 6 Prepared Statement of Paul Hudson, President, FlyersRights.org, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Larsen ............................................................................ 73 Photos of 89 of the 157 Victims of the Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 Crash, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Larsen ......................................................... 74 APPENDIX Responses from the following witnesses to questions for the record from Hon. Garret Graves: Sharon Pinkerton, Senior Vice President, Legislative and Regulatory Pol- icy, Airlines for America ............................................................................... 75 (V) VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:46 Aug 29, 2019 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 P:\HEARINGS\116\AV\6-19-2~1\TRANSC~1\37476.TXT JEAN VI Page Responses from the following witnesses to questions for the record from Hon. Garret Graves—Continued Captain Chesley B. ‘‘Sully’’ Sullenberger III, Pilot, US Airways (Retired) .. 76 Hon. J. Randolph Babbitt, Former Administrator, Federal Aviation Ad- ministration ................................................................................................... 77 VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:46 Aug 29, 2019 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 P:\HEARINGS\116\AV\6-19-2~1\TRANSC~1\37476.TXT JEAN vii JUNE 14, 2019 SUMMARY OF SUBJECT MATTER TO: Members, Subcommittee on Aviation FROM: Staff, Subcommittee on Aviation RE: Subcommittee Hearing on ‘‘Status of the Boeing 737 MAX: Stakeholder Perspectives’’ PURPOSE The Subcommittee on Aviation will meet on Wednesday, June 19, 2019, at 10:00 a.m. in 2167 Rayburn House Office Building to hold an hearing titled, ‘‘Status of the Boeing 737 MAX: Stakeholder Perspectives.’’ The hearing is intended to gather views and perspectives from aviation stakeholders regarding the Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 accidents, the resulting international grounding of the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, and actions needed to ensure the safety of the air- craft before returning them to service. The Subcommittee will hear testimony from Airlines for America, Allied Pilots Association, Association of Flight Attendants— CWA, Captain Chesley (‘‘Sully’’) Sullenberger, and Randy Babbitt. BACKGROUND The Federal Aviation Administration’s (FAA) mission