...... SerIeI, Vol. XVIII, No. , 'f• ...,., ".1, 29, 1916 Sra,... 7, l!HJI (SMa)
LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Sixth Session
(Eighth Lot Sabha)
(Yol. XVIII COItI""" N08.1 to 10)
LOK SABIL\ SECltETA8IAT NEW J)I3JII hIce:'" 'M tOrttial PAati* proceedi... iDcluded lD SqUab VonloD ud 0rfIIaaJ BtadI ...... IacWed .. IIiDdi VenioD will be treated u autborltatlYe aud DOt till til i t_ dIertof.J CONTENts
No 9-Tue,day, July 29, 1986/Sravana 7, 1908 (Saka)
COLUMNS
Oral Answers to Questions-
·Starred Questions Nos. 162 to 164, 167 to 169 1-33 and 171
Written Answers to Question8-
Starred Questions Nos. 165, 166, 170 and 172 • 33-49 to 182
Unstarred Questions Nos. 1494 to 1548, 1550 . 50-336 to 1627, 1629 to 1701 and 1703 to 1726
PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE 340-344
MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABHA 344
REPEALING AND AMENDING BILL, 1986 • 345
ESTIMATES COMMITTEE- Thirty-fifth Report • 345
CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF UROENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE- Situation arising out of the settlement on Mizoram • 345-372
Shri C. Madha v Roddi • • 345, 350-353
S. Buta SiDah • 345--350, 363--372
Shri S. Jaipal Reddy • • • • 353-355
Shri M. Raghuma Reddy. • • • 355-357
Shri Huish Rawat • • 357-360
Shri Bhattam Srirama Murty 360-363
*The Slan+marked above the name of a Member i~dlcates tbat the Question WI aCluaDy mod on the 800r of tbo House by tlat MeID.f. COLUMNS
MATTERS UNDER RULE 377-
(i) Need to extend the Haldia-AUahabad National Waterway upto lCanpur.
Sbri Jagdish Awastbi • • 372
(ii) Need to connect Girdih with Kodarma and Kodarma with Hazaribagh by a railway line.
Shri THak Dhari Singh • 373
(iii) Need to send a team to Ahmednagar to assess the gravity of situation caused by drought and to render necessary relief to the farmers.
Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Patil 373
(jv) Need to accelerate the process of setting up a "Navodaya Vidyalaya" in rural area of district AJwar, Rajasthan.
Sbri Ram Singh Yadav 373-374
(v) Need to establish a centre for women's studies at Berhampur University of Orissa to carryon research studies on the Development of women.
Shri Somna th Rath 374
(vi) Need to provide adequate financial assis- tance to tbe State Government of Rajasthan for rendering relief to victims of heavy rains in Kota, Bondi, Ibalawar and other areas of Rajasthan.
Shri Shanti Dhariwal • 375
(vi" Need to scttle the Jongstanding demands of Gramio Bank employecs.
Sbri Hannan Mollab • • • 376
(mi) Need to amcnd tbe handloom reservation order to protect tbe silk powerloom industry and handloom industry in lCarnataka.
• • • • '''-577' COLt1MJi8
DISCUSSION R£ : SITUATION IN PUNIAB-Co~td.
Prof. Sai fuddin Soz • • • 383-388
Prof. P.J. Kurien • 388-391
Shri Piyus Tiraky . • • 391-393
Shri Yogeshwar Prasad Yogesb • 393-394
Shri Sultan Salahuddin Owaisi • • 395-397
Sbri V. Kishore Chandra S. Deo • • • • 397-399
STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE : DISAPPROVAL OF THE COMMISSIONS OF INQUIRY (AMEND- MENT ORDINANCE, 1986 AND COMMISSIONS OF INQUIRY (AMENDMENT) BlLL, 1986-Contd. 399-451
Motion to consider
Shri Bha ttam Srirama Murty 400-406
Shri Somnatb Ratb • • 406-410
Sbri S. Thangaraju • 411-412
Dr. G.S. Rajbans 412-415
Shri Somnath Chatterjee • • • 41'-422
Shri Dharam Pal SiDlh Malik 422-427
Shri Dinesh Goswami 427-435
Shri Girdhari La) Vyas • 435-438
Sbri Sbantaram Naik • • 438--+11
Shri Indrajit Gupta 441--448
Sbri Raj Kumar Rai !" 448-451
DISCUSSION RB : SITUATION IN PUNJAB-Co,,'d.
S. Buta Siqb • • • • • 451-451 STATUTORY RESOLUTION R.E : DISAPPR.OVAL OF THB COMMISSIONS OF INQUIRY (AMEND- MENT) ORDINANCE, 1986 AND COMMISSIONS OF INQUIRY (AMENDMENT) BILL, 1986-Contd. • • 458-467 MonOD to cODsider
Shri Ram Singh Yada v • 459-467 BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITIBE- Twenty-Fifth Report • 467-468
PAPBR LAID ON THE TABLE-Collld. • 470-472 LOK SABHA DEBATES
1 2
LOK SABHA THE MINISTER OF ST A TB IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICB (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) Yes, Sir. Tuelday, July 29, 1986/ Sravana 7, 1908 (SAKA) (b) The information is not readily available. The same will be collected The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the from the State Governments and will be laid on the Table of the House. Clock. Cc) By the Child Marriage Restraint (Amendment) Act, 1978, offences under [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] the Act have been made cognizable for the purpose of investigation of such offen- ces and for all matters, other than matters [Translation] referred to in section 42 of Cr. p.e. (arrest on refusal to give name and MR. SPEAKER: Shri G. Bhoopathy. residence) and the arrest of a person without a warrant or without an order of SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI: Mr. the Magistrate. Speaker, Sir, Shri Bhoorathy is going to speak on marriages fDr the first time. Is [Translation] it the beginning? SHRI G. BHOOPATHY : I have seen MR. SPEAKER It is an auspicious the photographs in the newspapers and beginning. Have the memories of your the magazines that child marriages are OWn solemn occasslOn become fresh? taking place in Rajasthan and other States. Raj:lsthao alone accounts for 50 ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS thousand child maniages. This is reatJy painful. [English] MR. SPEAKER: Vyasji, what is he Steps to ban Child Marriages saying 1
.162. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: Will SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: After child the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be marriage, small children start the' con- pleased to state summasion of marrjage at an early age, and the Government cannot stop it. If (a) whether child marriages are this process continued unchecked, the taking place in spite of the fact that they number of children in the country will go are banned; up steeply. If the children continue this process, the mother as well as the father (b) the number of caSfS registered would become weak. What steps the during 1984, 1985 and upto June, 1986; Government are going to take to stop and child marriage and early consummation thereof? (c) the steps proposed to be taken for the strict implementation of the Act ban- I would like to congratulate tho niDI child marriages 1. Rajasthan Government ...... Oral An,wr, JULY2t.lt86
MR. SPEAKER: You put your ques- undergoing a change. These local custo- tiOD rather than giving a lecture. mary laws exist in other parts of the country too which are monitored by the SHRf O. BHOOPATHY : I congratu.. State Governments and we do not inter. late the Rajasthan Government that they fere with them. Therefore, the hone dismissed the Minister who arranged a Member should know tbat\tbis social evil cbild marriagt of her daughter at a tender of child marriage is also gradually dying ~ge. Why don't they make this punish- away in Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh. ment effective throughout the country? SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: Mr. SURI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Sir~ the Speaker, Sir, in his reply the bon. bOll. M ember's first 6ut.missiofl that the Minjster has not stated as to how many children and the men from Rajasthan are persons were convicted. The law is very weak ctn be judged from the very appea- dear that whosoever rrranges cbild rance ()f Sbri Vyas. Vyasji, you kindly marriage can be arrested, fined and even stand up so tbat we may have a glimpse jailed under Section 52 All this is provided of your body. (I"te"uptions) I find that in the law. For whom this law bas been 70 per cent people in Rajasthan •••••. _ enacted? Child marriages are taking place for years bu t why are the Gevernment sitting silent? What steps are proposed to be taken in this regard in future? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: So (Interruptions) far I thought that Shri Girdhari Lal Vyas beJoaged to the Youth Congress but now SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Sir, as I it seems that he belongs to the children's have stated earlier, the State Governments academy! have been asked to take action, the cul- prits will also be tried, we are collecting (Translal ion) information and as soon as it is received, it will he placed before the House. r SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VY AS: The child marriage which takes place in [English] Rajasthan is not in fact the rea) marriage: SHRIMA TI GEET A MUKHERJEE: The real marriage takes place when the The Question was submitted 21 days airl attains the age of 20-22 years and earlier, bu t in the reply not even rough Cgauna" ceremony is performed. and ready estimates could be given From this it is clear that no State Government SHRI H R. BHARDWAJ: Sir, I is really monitoring the:,e C48es. Wbat the know a Jot about Rajasthan. Perhaps, the hone Minister S.Jys "bout lhild marriage hone M(mber does not have complete may be partially all rl!~ht. But the fact information. Take allY person f,om remains that lh~re IS this attack of R.ajasthan" you will find him ... ell built fundamentalism and all that. Will the and sturdy. Take for example an animal, hon. Minist{ r tell us whether they will a camel from Rajasthan. You will find it make arrangements to really monitor this the stoutest of all. None js weak there. question of chiJd marriage which is not just disappearing like this. Will they give So far as the prevaJence of social directions to the State Governments to evils is concerned, this social evil was in monitor this and take appropriate prevalence there from tbe very beginning steps ? due to historical reasons. This evil is aradually diminishing as a result of social [Trans/ation] DlOVfmenU. Earlier, the age of consent in the Cbild Restraint Marriage Act, 1929 MR. SPEAKER: Are the things aU was 14 years and 18 years which bas now right in your State? been raised to 18 years and 21 years SHRIMATI GEETA MUKijERJEB: respectively. Now, coming to the question I did not speak about Raja.tban ••••..••••.• of marriaae and 'puna', there arc some Jocal customary laws whieh arc aradualty (Interruption,) SRAVA)'fA'1•• Il0l ElAICA)
[EnlILrh)
SHRI g.R. BH~ROWAJ: I am SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: definitely letti_1 information from the May I know whethet it is a fact dial iu State Governments to pl.ic: it before tbe the Hindu Marriage Act, the cu.tomary House. But I will examine whether I practice of marriage bas beea 'aved' have, the competence to direct the State tbrough a 'sa viDg clause' ••d wllotllcr Governments in this behalf because you there is any proposal to briag Uti. ®stOID are very allergic to that. within tbe purview of the Statute? -
SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Tbat. it Persuasion is also a kind of direction. a particular type of marriage~ You IDaY have a type of marriage under the custo- mary law; but in tbe balic law, even under (Translation] the Hindu Law, female and male should be above 18 and 21 respectively. SHRJ MOOL CHAND DAGA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, while speaking about [Translation] Rajasthan, the hon. Minister did not disclose that the rural people in Rajasthan, SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA : Sir, . having four to five children, got them through you, 1 would like to koo. from married at a very early age in a single the han. Minister whether ibis Child ceremony. Why do they do so? Because Marriage Restraint Act which has been their economic condition do~s not permit passed for the protection of the society is them otherwise. (llllerrupt;ons) That is applicabJe to only the Hindu CoDDIlUllity why they perform community marriages or is it applicable to the other communi... of all the children, but 'gauna' in Rajas- ties? I think, the law is imperfect. In than takes place after the age of 20-21 case it is not applicable to the otber years. You think that the marriage takes communities, wiJl some steps be taken to place at an early age but that in fact is see that it become applicable to otbers not a marriage. They do it to avoid the a)so'1 expenditure on separate functions. It is the poor who are victimised by the police under the existing law and they have to SHRI B.R. BHARDWAJ: I am pay them bribe for no fault of theirs. You surprised to know that you do not know make amendment in the law that the even this much that it is applicable to 'gauna' ceremony ~,fter the marriage all. should not take place before they attain the age of 20-21 years because, their [Ellglish] economic condition does not permit it. Delay in completioa of RiIl.act Project SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Sir, tbe + law will continue to be the same under *163. SHR) RAJ KUMAR RAI : which the marriage is permitted after the SHRI YASHWANTRAO age ~f 18 or 21 years, but if there are some local customary laws which the GADHAK PATIL : society is not changing, I have aJready Will the Minister of ENERGY be said that it is due to some reasons and tbat is why not many cases bave been pleased to state : registered in Rajasthan. But merely for this reason, the Government is not going (a) whether the Riband Project ia to shirk its responsibility. If the law likely to be delayed because of erratic provides tbat the marriages should take supply of essential materialS by tbe British place after tbe age of 18-21 years, we all suppliers; should heJp in the compliance of tee law. (b) if so, tt.o details thereof; and , JtJLY B, 1~86 8
(e) tbe steps being taken/proposed to or seven questions. I do realise that UP e~.ure that the necessary supplies by the has a power shortage. t also say why the concerned British supplien are made on reply has not been evasive. As rar as schedtr1e ? possible all the replies have been given into it. As soon as the project came up, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE implementation came up, both the cont- DBPAItTMBNT OF POWER AND racts for the supply and erection were MINISTER. 'OF STATE IN THE ccmpleted by September and October MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 1982. In 1983 a review was taken and NATURAl: GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA at that time it was found th~t there was ROHTAGI}l: to (c). A statement is a slippage. On the basis of that slippage liven bek>w.· which might have taken another extra one year, everything was taken into considera- State... tion. It was thought that the matter should be expedited and our team went to (a) and (~). ~. The implementation of London and had discussion. Their team the Riband Project bas beep delayed due also came to Delhi in 1983-both in 1983- to inadequate project management by and things were worked out. .We thought MIs. Northern Engineering Industries, that in the design itself there was some UK, causing deJays in finalising the design delay. After the d'esigns were reviewed and engineeriDl of lite project and conse- and agreed then monitoring and transpor- quent detaY!l in th~ supply and erection of tation were done. Again in 1985 our tbe plant aDd equipment. Secretary went to London. had discussion at the top level and on the basis of tbat (c) The progress of the project discussion the delay has been cut down. incJudm, the schedules of supply of equip- While sharing the concern of the Hon. ment, is being closely moni1ored by the Member I would like to say that monito- National Thermal Power Corporation. ring is being continued and the project The progress of the project is also being officer is looking after the site. We do reviewed regularly by the Governments of hope that the with the discussions taken India and the U.&. place in 1985 and again in 1986 with our SHRI R.AJ KUMAR RAI: Mr. Secretary they will lead to very fruitful Speaker Sir: You -know, the entire House things. The project \\ hich they may have knows and the nation is also aware tbat taken upto A prj I 1988 is eventua1ly expe- most part of (J.P. especialJy the eastern cted to be completed at least by the end UP and MP are very much dependant on of 1987 or earlier by October 1987. Riband power project for poWer. Indus- trialists and agriculturists have been facing SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: What power shortage, power cut etc. Still the penalty has been imposed after discussion HOD. Miojster is giving such an evasive and after finding that the U.K. firm has repl, t committed such an exorbitant delay in supplying the material etc., causing such May I know from the Hon. Minister an irreparable loss to the Indian Govern- 88 to wben did tile fact of delay by U.K. ment? What penalty has been imposed firm-Mis. Northern Engineerjng Indus- or considered to be imposed so far? tries-come to the notice of the Govern- SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: ment, what action did the Government The process is still going on, the penalty take to expedite the matter, what is the factor and the loss. if they are there, will takina and date of precautions monitoring, be taken into consideration. what actions have been taken so far, what are the results of the actions taken by SARI RAJ KUMAR RAI: I have the Government and wbat discussion did specifically pointed ou t that they have tbey make with the U .K. Go~ernmeni and committed fault and irreparat:Ue Joss to of6cials? the Indian Government. Why our Government is keeping mum wby penalty SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAOI: hal not been imposed after such a clear Thank God, iii one; breath' he bas put six finding ~f delay by the UK firm ? Oral Answers SRAVANA '.1"" (SARA) id
SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: reply you give, it should be from tbe Sir, on the question of loss, the calculated Government and Dot on behalf of the loss if anY. the time delay, etc. will be company. taken into consideration as soon as tbis project is implemented and, we hope, it [English] win be done by OctoberOc THE MINISTER OF ENERGY SHRI RAJ KU~AR RAI : It is very (SHRI V ASANT SA THIl): In tbis matter uncommon, Sir. we haye taken the matter at the m.hest level. Our secretary went to U.K. last SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA.: Sir, I month and we have'told the Government do not agree. This project was started .. of U.K. as well as this Company that tbis project must be completed expeditiously. (Interruptions) There is already a penalty clause in the Agreement. We can use it ,if necessary. [Translation] Now they have agreed to bring down the delay which was earlier expected to be My colleagues from Uttar Prade~h are about a year to four months. They have saying that I should speak in Hindi. assured tbat they will gear up their entire Therefore, I shall speak in Hindi only. I machinery. They have already postdd am glad to say that the N.T.P.C. has some high level officials here to ensure taken up this project vcry systematically, that this project is completed latest by but the difficulty noW being experienced is October. I think tbis should satisfy. that there is no c('ordinatlOn between the concerned departments, as a result of ( Translation] which there has been some difficulty in the matter of supplies. As regards other SHRI DAMODAR PANDEY: Mr. p-ower projects ..••...... Speaker, Sirl. the hon Minister has stated that there was a delay of only four months MR. SPEAKER: Are you asking a and not a year. I would )ike to know the question or replying to it. escalation in cost due to this delay and whether such a situation is not anticipated SHRI RAM PY ARE PANIKA: The when the project is concieved ? completion of this project will be delayed as there is no coordination between the SHRI VASANT SATHB: It is. of departments. Will the hone Minister course, anticipated. There can be a minor assure the House that the other projects time lag when such a big project is being will be completed in time by necessary executed; I am not defending it, but monitoring and their infrastructure will when such things take plac::e, our endea- also be completed in time 'l. vour is to see that the ,c;ost does Dot .over- rUD even if the time has overrUD. SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI; If there is lacke in coordination it will [English] remedied, but so far there has been no lack in the coordination in this fie1d. Import of Telecommunication Eqalpmeat
SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI *164. SHRI MOOL CHAND~DAGA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, from the reply, it Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS appears that this reply is not from the be pleased to, state : Government side but from a company named N .E.T. This company is deJiber- (a) Whether impo;ts of telecommu_ ately delaying it and is creating impedi- nication equipment have been liberalised; ments in tbe execution of so big a project by not supplying the equipment. I want (b) how much foreign exchange is to to know whether she is going to set up a be spent during 1986-87 and 1987-88, indi- committee which should see tbat the pro- cating the names of the exportm, ject is completed in time? Whatever countries; ! tt ti
(c) the number of pubHc sector units -cation equipment is resorted to only when permitted te manufacture partl for tele- such equipment are not a'failablc from c:ommunicat ion equipment ; and indigenous sources, with prior clearance from the Department of Electronics and (d) the manner in which the interests Director-Oeneral of Technical Develop- of public sector units will be safeguarded ment from the indigenous angle. tltiDa into cOIlsideratioa heavy imports .. prGClucUon ftoom loman TeJephone Industries , (b) to. (d). A statement is given below: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHill IlAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) No, Sir, Import of Telecommuni-
Statement
SL Name of items Quantity FOB am- Name of Reason for No. ount in Country Import Rs. crores
1 2 3 4 s 6
1. Undcraround Tde- 2000 Kms 17.2 South Korea/ Indigenous pbODC Cables. FRG capacity inadequate.
2. 13 GHz Diaital M/w 12 bops S.50 Italy I ndigenous]y Equipment, not produced
3. 140 Mb/s Digital 7.4 Holland -do- Coaxial "njp.
.t. Emerpnoy Commu- 18 Noa. 4.2 Japan -do- nieat.. Tenninals
5. Teetml InstnHDents 3.3 USA/Japan -do-
6. Spares for various .. - 1.7 Japan/ Spares for Telecom. Equipments. France equipment im.. ported earlier.
7. BiJiolJl.a1 El.(ctronic 20 Nos. 001 France Indjgenously Teleprinters, Dot produced.
8. C-4OO Crossbar Tele- 9 K Jines S.l Japan For extension phoac Bxchan,e OK[ of exittina ex- Equipment. 23 K lines· 9.S changes impor- NEe ted carli...
9. Fetes Type Ioeal 6.3 JaPan -do- . BJearOoic Ex- chaDFL SIlAVANA " 1908 (SAtC.A)
1 2 3 4 5 6
18. Electronic P ABX 20 K lines 6.0 France! No indiaeD01ls 8 K. lines 3.2 Japan manufacture Belgium available a.t present.
11. CODtainerised Small 4 Nos 0,8 Japan Indigenously not Te]ephone Exchanges produced. for free trade zones.
12. Containerised local 15 K lines 8.0 HoHand Expan.ioD of exchange equipment. existing ex- changes.
IJ. Digital TAX's 11 stations 18.0 France IDdigenoutly not produced.
14. Electronic Telex 4 stations S.3 West -do- Equipment Germany
15. MisceJlaneous for 0.60 France -do- E-IO B Exchanges TRC etc. ----- Total 102.11
Note: I lnformation regarding Foreign Exchange to be spent during 1987-88 will be a vailable only after budget allocation/Foreign Excbaoae is available. The names of exporting countries shall be known only when import orders are placed.
Note : II Prior clearance of Director General of Technical Development/Depart- ment of Electronics has been taken in all these cases for 1986-87.
(c) Public Sector Units Permitted to (d) Steps being taken to safeguard manufacture Telecom. Equipments/Turn.. interests of Public sector units- over. 1. Strict scrutiny is made, before imports are resorted to, to restrict 1. Public Sector Units - 7 imports to minimum essential items, and only if indigenous pro- 2. Public/Joint ieclor Units - 38 duction is not available.
3. Turnover during J985 - Rs. 340 2. Steps are beinl taken for import crores. substitutions by cncouraJing ia4j. genous production throu8h indi- (Turnover of Rs. 340 crores in- genous Research and Develop- cludes supplies made to the Deptt ment wherever possible and of TelecommunicatioDs and other through transfer of techDor.,., uaen). wherever necessary. Oral~r; .ttJL y ~ 1986
[Trtnultltlon] SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : Your factory is giving a good production SURI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Mr. and tan manufacture all tb~ equipment. Speaker, Sir, with aU humility, I want to But your officers apprehend retrenchment; say tbat this procedure of laying the state- you are. also importing the equipment at a ment on tbe Table of the House, which is very high cost. What clarification you rcsorted to quite frequently nowadays, would like to give in this regard? does not live an opponunity to the House to know all the facts. By giving SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: As (his facility, you have deprived us eliciting usual, the bon. Member has linked up a information on all tbe facts. number of questions together; I shall try to reply each of his questions briefty. MR. SPEAKER: If the reply to a This House is also well aWare that the question luns into S.. 7 pages, other ques- scheme of setting up a second electronic tions will be leftout; you see the other digital factory in Bangalore is under con- aspect also. sideratjon of tbe Government for quite sometime JlOW and whatever the Managing Director of ITI has said is correct. The SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: I saQle thing I have repeatedly said in this would like to bring to your notice what House that if decision on second factory is Chairman and Managing Director of Tele- not taken early, we sball have to seriously phone Industries has said :- think about giving alternative employment to about 7,000 people working in various (English] factories with old technology. Therefore, the Managing Djrector of ITI has said The Ma~ging Director of Indian Tele- nothing neW and as such there is no con- phone Industries, Shri Nambiar had re- tradiction between his statement and that cently criticised the DOT's lack of faith in of mine. We are encouraging ITI and the abilities of OUt engineers and scientists. they have introduced many new lines and He stated that ITI js in a position tomeet our policy is that not only ITI but Joint the country's requirements of switching Sector Undertakings of the States such as equipments for the coming two decades. Electronics Development Corporation ~ He has a)so claimed tbat tbe ITl's new should also be associated with this work. factory; at Manakpur in Uttar Pradesh has During this period, we have entrusted a achieved a high desree of indigenisation in lot of work to the private sector too. the field of digital exchanges and that the Therefore, we want that the equipment exchanges manufactured by the ITI have which we are importing or the equipment been found to be more suitable even by the that ~e would need in future should, as Defence Services. far as possible, be manufactured indige- nously to meet our needs. (TraM/ation)
This is his statement dated 14th June, (Engli,II1 1986 and ycur office has obJiged you by Jiving a stale reply. For this you mUst PROF. N G. RANOA Then, why thank yout" department, but let me tell these imports, Sir? yo. that this will lead to a heavy retrench- meet in ,dot department. Your l.T.I. in Bangalore is of the view that this decision (Tranllat ion] will result in retrenchment of a large Dumber of employees. According to one SHRJ MOOL CHAND DAGA: Mr. estimate, 10,000 people will be thrown out Spealu:r. Sir, an announcement was made of their jobs. in this House in J984 that they were taking a Dew decision. 27 licences were issued MR. SPBAKEIl You put the to those private 'Companies in wbich SI per 'JUCltioo. cent of aharea were owned by the Govern- 11 Oral A.nswer, SRAvANA t, 1908 (SAKA) Is mente Six companies have alreadY started gation that is often lev~lls is that the type work. They have said :- of equipments that w~ are imparting, arc not of the best stanJ ud. Som~times, the [English] outmoded equipm!nts are b~i'lg dumped "Accordingly, six companies in the in this country, with the result that the State and joint sectors have already been telephon~s hav~ become a headache for licen&ed to produce 60,000 rural exchange every individual in this country. Therefore, lines each, and another 27 ba ve been per- may I know what s..lf .:guards Goverom~nt mitted to manufacture telephone instru- is taking to see that while we import these ments. Several State Electronics Corpo- things, i c. items and equipments, only the rations are also exp~cted to supply various best .available items are imported? items of lr~nsmission equipment". SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA: We [Trans/at ion] have a elc.lborate and a very rigid system In 1984, 6 companies were producing of evaluating foreign technologies which the required equipment for you and you we want to adopt under transfer of techno- issued licence to 27 companies. Although logy agreements. In this process, the the companies had given a guarantee to DepJrtment of EI.;ctronics is involved, the supply equipment in J987, yet you are public sector enterprises llke the Bharat importing equipment worth crores of Electronics, ECIL, Keltr JO are aIr jnvolve,d rupees during the Seventh FIve Year in the process of evaluation, if the relevant Plan? prgduction falls in that area. It is done only after inviting world tenders, complete SHRI RAM NiWAS MIRDHA : evaluation of the capabilities, visits to First of all, it is rot correct to say that factories and aU the expertise available in we are importiflg telephone equipment the country is utilised for evaluating them. worth crores of rupees. because nowhere I can assure the hon Members that in this statement hdve I said that We are through this process, only the best will "importing telephone equipment. come up.
So far as the question of issuing Jicen- SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: If I am ces is concerned, I have already stated not mistaken, the other day when replying that our p())icy is that -not only telephone to a question in this House regarding the exchanges and telephone instrumelJls but proposed phased closing dow n of those cables, teleprinters, Coin boxes, PA BX two units in Bangalore and Rae Budi, the etc. should also be given to the pri\ate/ reason given by the Minister was that the joint sector for production For example, cross bar equipment and one other equip- let me tell you that 50 licences ha\e been ment-I have forgotten its name-which issued in the jOi:1 t and private sector for are being produced tbere, have become the manufacture of telephone instruments. obsolete. In this list which is given today The private sector people make tall claims in the statement, of the items for import, but when it com~ s to showing results and I find that item No.8 again refers to im- supplying the equipment in time, they ports which wiH cost. something like, bet- a1 ways failed to deliver tbe goods. Our ween Rs. 14 crores and Rs. 15 crores for policy is to give ful1 opportunity to the cross bar telephone exchange system. from private and the joint sector so that our JJpan; and the reason given i9 that it is requirements of telephone exchanges could for the extension of existing "exchanges be met from indigenous production. imported earlier. The existing exchanges [English} imported earlier and which have been in operation for some time are, I think, the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I very ones which be mention"ed last time. hope the operators will be indigenous. They were obsolete, or are getting obsoleto now. So, I want to know firstly, why SHRI RAM NIWAS M"IRDHA : We Rs. 15 crores are to be spent once again are olaking it automatic. for importing from Japan equipment for SHat DINESH GOSWAMI : Apart extending these e1tisting obsolete cross bar from substituting imports, the other alle- exchanges. (2) Out of 15 items listed iQ 1; this statement, the reason given for import equipment for which we do not have the . against 10 of them is that the item is indi- indjgenous capacity, I have some list be- genously Dot produced and tbat is why it is fore me. In many of these items alreadY being imported. In that case, I would negotiations are goins on for transfer of like to know whether the overall picture technology agreement. For example, is OI1~ of our being almost totany depen- item no. 2, which is digital microwave den t on foreign sources for our telecom- equipment; already we have floated worJd munication equipment and furthor deve- tenders. IT) is involved in this; Baharat lopment. If 10 out of I S ~tems are indi- Electronics Ltd. is involved in this. We genously flot produced at all up till-now, it . are involving tbem in productionising these means we will have to depend entirely on tbing$ and tbey are in volved in appraising the imported sources. I want to know the offer that bas been received; techni- whether government consider that to be a caIJy as well as financially they are apprai. desirable tbing from any point of view. sing it. Same is the case with item no. 3. This is digital electronic equipment. ITI again is involved in transfer of technology PROF. MAD.HU DANDAVATE: It and we are appraising things. In that way, is just like Maruti. ... most of the items that are listed here, we are also taking steps either by deve- SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA loping them by our own or through the About item no. 8 which says import of transfer of foreign technology to fill in crossbar equipment from Japan, wben I these gaps. We are very much conscious answered the pointed question in this of the point raised by the hon. Member House some time back regarding phasing that the item which we are receiving now, out of the production in tbe ITI factories, importing now and which do not hJve tbe what I said Was that we were producing indigenous produce has to be productionis- strowger and "Penta conta type" crossbar ed here. This is exactly the direction in excltaops which were antiquated and which we are going. gradually will pbase tbem out for which we have drawn up a programme, but in PROF. N.G. RANGA : The Estimates their place more electronic production Committee and some other Committee capacity bad to be built up. These ex- h3ve to examine thfs question. changes were constructed in a big building and in the first pbase certain exchanges were installed; and this Japanese variety Shifting of LPG GodowD8 from was a part of the expansion of the same populated areas exchange; no new building was COntem- plated; no extra expenditure by way of a pJan was contemplated, but it was anti· + cipated, eveD when those exctanges were *167. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH started, tbat tbere will be second phale of MALIK: expansion in which infrastructure incJud- SHRI ANANTA ~RASAD in, buildinl etc. were provided. SETHI:
SURI INDRAHT GUPTA: Why do Will the Minister of PETROLEUM you expand the system which is already AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to obtolete, and as a result of which some state: 10,000 ~Mkers are going to lose their jcbs in those two fa~tories ? (a) whe~her it is a fact that a number 'SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : We of LPG godowns are functioning in very are absorbing every item that the tTl is thickly populated areas in the capital and producing. lmport is not being done other majoLAOwDs in the coulltry ; at tbe cost of the indegenous production but because of shortage of production in (b) tbe number of such ,odOWD! our rn faetories that lOme marginal im· which are fUDctionina in ver., thickly popu; p(, rt has to be resorted to. AI reprdl lated areas of the capital ; Orai A."nve" Oral AnS'Werl
(c) whether Government propose to place are going OD and it is hoped tbi$- shift them to safer places to avoid unto- godown too wHI be relocated SOOIl. wards happenings; and SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH (d) if not, the reasons thereof? MALIK: Sir, I wouJd like to know from the bon. Minister When did it come to THE MIN1STER OF STATE IN THE notice of the Government that such and DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND such L.P G. godowns in the country as a MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- whole are not located at suitable places TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL from safety point of view and by when GAS (SHRIMATJ SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : these L.P.G. godowns would be shifted? (a) to (d). A statement is given below: Have you fixed any time limit for the Statement shifting of four L.P G. godowns in Delhi?
(a) and (b). LPG godowns are set up by SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: LPG distributior~ only after Sir, such a review has not been done for obtaining clearances from ad- the country as a whole as yet. But it ministrative and statutory must be done and it is under consideration. authorities like Fire Depart- Their licences are renewed every year after ment, Explosives Department the Director of Explosives coHeets futl in .. etc. The Delhi Admintstra- formation in this regard. Thus, review is tion has recently identified made annually but whether it is done in four LPG godowns in the the mid-year also, I do not have informa- capital as being located in tion for the country as a whole right densely populated areas. now.
(c) and (d). Action is in band by the SHRI MADAN PANDEY Is the DDA (Delhi DeveloPlllent hon. Minister aware tholt L.P.G. godowns AUlbority) and the respec- in Kanpur are loca teG in the heart of the tive oil companies for reloca- city and the same is also true of other cities? tion of the godowns id~ntified Therefl)re, ] would like to know which as unsuitable on grounds of agency issues the licences and whether safety in Delhi. that agency thoroughly examines the -suit- ability of the location from safety point of [TranllatiolJ) view taking into consideration the qualltum of pressure? Has such an inspection been SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH done throughout the country? MALIK: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to know from tbe hone Minister what SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: urgent steps are being taken to shift the As I have said in my reply earlier, sucb a godowDS of L.P.G. so us to avoid any review has not been done throughout tbe accident? country. but it must be done. Such in- formation in the case of bottling asency SHRIMA TI SUSHILA ROHT AGI : has been received and wherever such Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hOD. Member has cases of densely populated areas have asked a very good question. During the come to our notice, norms have been laid Course of rcview, four L.P.G. godowns in this respect. Under these norms a were found to be located at such places minimum distante, may be three metres or and it was considered necessary to relocate six metres, depending upon the pressure them. The Lt. Governor had called a of the cylinder, is required to be kept. mC'eling on 3rd July in tbis regard. Of L P.O. licence is issued only after all ihese lodowllS, alternative 'places for these requirements ate duly checked. Still, thl'ce bas beeD found and tbey bave since as pointed out by the hon. Member, we beeD relocated but one remains to be re- sbaU pay attention to it from the safety located; Efforts for inlin. a IlIft.ble point of view. OraJ~t"
fElll/hA1 There is mucb scope for hydro-electricity and there arC! reserves of monazite for Power shortage in Orissa and i8lp)e.ea- establishing a nuclear power plant thore. , tation of Taklaer Super Thermal In spite of these facts the fact remains . Power Project that power generation in Orissa is only 727 Megawatts as against the requirement of ·168 SlJRI SOMNATH RATH 1205 Megawatts. Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: The hOD. Minister in her answer has not given any answer to my question but (a) whether Government are aware the answer given is as vague as it can be. of acute shortage of power in Orissa ; I want to know from the hon. Minister When ~he TaJcher super .thermal pOWer (b) jf so, the steps taken to meet tbe project is going to start; an
StatemeDt SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI I will try to make the answer as specific as (a) and (b). There is a power shortage possible and not general and vague. in Orissa. The measures taken to increase the availability of power in the State in- It is true tbat Orissa is having power clude installation of additional generation shortage and the present installed capacity capacity. renovation and modernisation is only 1185 Megawatts and besides it has of the Talcber thermal power station, also got a share of 25 Megawatts from the reduction in transmission and distribution first unit of Talcher super thermal power losses, implementation of demand manage- station. But the inflow into the reservoirs ment and energy conservation measures, of Hirakud, Balimela and the performance and providing assistance from the neigh- of the Talcber power station, has not been bouriog sYAems to the extent possible. satisfactory. As the inflow into these reservoirs was not satisfactory, there has (c) The Central Electricity Authority been a shortage of power to the extent have accorded techno-economic approval of 15 to 20 percent in the State of Orissa. to the Talcher super thermal power pro- The power requirement of Orissa is expec- ject.. The proje(;t can be- cpnsidered for ted to be 67S0MU against which there is not an invc,tmeDt decision· after environment enough availability. The shortaae is about and forest cJearan=e bas been accorded, ~ 30 per cent. In order to meet the power coal linka,e has been established, and the shortale the State has imposed power cuts fundiD, pattern bas beeD determined. also. oAt the same time, many other States are trying to come to the assistance SURI SOMNATH RATH : Sir, tbere of Oriqa in order to seo that Orissa does is povert)' in the midst of plenty in Orissa not face power shortaae_ From ADdhr. and the bon. Minister knows it very weJl. Pradesh, MAdbya Pradesh. Bibflr and a Iso Best quality coal is available in Orisa in from DVC lome power haa beon rushed to "Ienty as nature i. kind enouab to Orilla. tho succour of Ori.... At the aame time. Oral Alf8Wers SRAVANA 7,1908 (SAKA)
I would like to say that there is a big PROF.. MADHU DANDAVATE: He. generation programme for 1986·87. Addi- is the HSpecific Minister". tional generation capacity totalling 483.5 MW is expected to be commissioned in THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Orissa during the Seventh Five Year Plan. VASA NT SA THE): As far as Talcber Recently we had a discussion with the Super Thermal Station is conce rned, it Chief Minister in a meeting. We are trying will be 2 x 500 MW capacity. We have to see how the difficulties faced by the already received a report of the committee State of Orissa can be rectified in a short for environmental and forest clearance. span of time. Since the hon. Member That is now being examined by the Depart- wanted to know the steps being initiated ment of Environment. But basicalJy the for future, I want to say that We have Ib question is of money. 1000 MW requires vaJJey. This project is" pending with tbe more than Rs. fooo crores of investment: Planning Commission for investment deci- As I was saying the oth-er day, all that We sion. We are trying to expedi te it. This need is money. As soon as I get the is a big project and we are trying to see money .... that as early as possible it is commissioned. Then there is the Talcher Super Thermal t MR SPEAKER: Who does not? Station Investment approval of the pro- ject wiH be considered after clearance for SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The environment and forest has b{;cn obtained. compliments of our leadt=r, Shri Madhu . This is also a very big proj ect. We have Dandavate, has not been made use of. to see how we can expedite it as far as possible. The performance of this ~tation SHRI BASANT SATHE: We have has been unsatisfactory and the PLF has also posed tbese projects for bHateral aU along ranged from 32 to 38 per cent. funding. Short of saying, beg, borrow or Orissa is one of the five St('tes where we steal, I am willing to get resources from have to take a separate meeting in order any where. As soon as I get the -resour- to see bow this PLF performance can be ces, these are very viable and good pro- Improved. I am sure, after the meeting jects rich projects and we would ourselves with the Chief Minister and other autho- be keen to see that these projects are rhier of the State Government, there will implemented at the earliest. be better improvement. There is a tremen- dous stope for improvement of power [Translation] generat ion in Orissa. MR. SPEAKER Cr. P. C. is in SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Still the force. answer is not specific. It is all general and only consolation. We know for cer- [English] tain and I think the hon. Minister also knows that owing to seasonal variations SHRI SARAT DEB: Sir, I want to the power generation Was reduced to 20 put one question. I want to know from per cent during the last year. But while the hoa. Minister that whatever existing answering the Minister says that the pro- power generation projects are there, are ject can be considered for investment. they working up to the standard, satisfac- These are all vague answers. I have al- tion and optimum capacity and if not, ready a~ked the hon. Minister to be speci- what steps bas the Centra) Government fic I agai') urge upon the Minister to be taken so far to expedite the things, parti- very specific as to when these projects are cularly the thermal power station at going to start. What is the timt! bound Talcher. The hon. Minister bas said that programme. I do not wdnt in general if he gets money, then only this witt eome .. terms how much power is generated, what up. So, should I presume that till now is the deficit I want the hon. Mmister to there is no certainty of getting money be specific tas to when it is "going to be from any other source ? implemented. SHRI VASANT SATHE: I would SHRI VASANT SATHE: Sir, as far like specifically to te)) the hone Member .. as the last question is ooncerned. tba· 2' auwer is yes. As far as the cxistina pro- PRISBS (PROF. K.K.. TEWARY): jects kre concerned, the whole Orissa (a) Corporate Research & Development scene is that out of 1,185 MW, 470 MW Division of BHEL haa not developed a comes from the thermal power statiou at Distributed Digital Control System. It has Talcher. Rest all comes from hydel pro- developed a Programmable Logic Control- jects at Hirakud, Bdli meta Rengali and ler which bas been installed at Srisailam Mucbkand. Therefore, jf reservoirs are Hydro Electric Plant & Midhani Steel not full, as far as the hyde) projects are Rolling Mill. concer,ed, we are in difficulty.. As far as the working of the existing Ta)cher Ther.. (b) and (c). BHEL bas entered into a mal Power Station is concerned, as was collaboration agreement with Brown stated by my colleague unfortunately the Bobery of Switzerland for Distributed performance is that although they ba ve Digital Control System, which has not been improved slightJy, it is still below 40 PLF developed jndigenous]y. (Plant Load Factoc). We can only help the State. I personally went to Ta1cher. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE We are trying to help them in improving Mr. Tewary has got up tcn minutes their machinery, equipment ard also coal earlier. supply so that they can improve the per- fOTalance. I feel confident that we will [Translation] be able to achieve something. MR. SPEAKER: He is your collea- MR. SPEAKER: Next question. Shri gue, you shouJd have told him. D.N. Reddy. [English] PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, you do not look at the ladies. She wanted SHRI D. N. REDDY : Sir, will the to add something. hon. Minister state whether it is a fact that the Distributed Digital Control System MR. SPEAKER: Ladies always add. is more accurate and improves producti- vity in various industries and power sta· Collaboration Arrangement for Distributed tions? If so, when does the Bbarat Heavy Digita) Control System Electricals expect to manufacture this system with the technical knowhow from * 169. SHRI D.N. REDDY Will Switzerland and what are the financiJl im- tbe Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to plications ? state: PROF. K.K. TEWARY : Mr. Sp:!aker, (a) whether a distributed digital con- Sir, as the question has been framed, it tro) system for power station has been appears that there is some misunderstanding developed in India indigenously by the in the mind of the hon. Member. He has Corporate Research Development Division mistaken one system for another. What we of the Bbarat Heavy Electricals Ltd., have entered into collaboration with actually Hyderabad and has been installed at the this Switzerland company is the Distribu- Andbra Prad~ State Electricity Board's ted Digital Control System We hav¢ in- Hydro-eJectri<: plant in Srisailam and in digenously developed another system which MIDHANI's' captive power plant; is different from the one that I have just mentioned. This is.a Programmable Logic (b) whether BHEL has entered into a Control or PLC. • By way of clarification collaboration arrangement with Born 1 can inform the hon. Member and the Bobery of Switzerland to manufacture the ~august House that D.D C. are computer same system ; and based system for complete automatic con- trol of complex processes in indulttrial pro- (c) jf so, the reasons thereof 1 cess and power generating plant. This system is applied to larger units and tbey THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE are dependable systems. On tbe other DEPAl\TME~T OF PUBLIC ENTER- band P.L.C. which hal.been developed Oral Mlwer, SRA VNA 7, 1908 (&AKA)
indigenously by BHBL by comparison is BHEL hal been effected by Itdkea and very limited in its role as it only ensures' other difficulties ~ How does it compare safety of an equipment or small process by with the previous years~ means of sequencing and inter-locking ott and on oI'cratioos. At present the present PROF. K.K. TEWARY He is not technology used-micro-processes-is car- clear. PJease ask him to repeat tbe rying out this task. P.L.C. does not per- question. form automatic task of continuously changing process parameters. SHRI D.N. REDDY He is aU round zero. SHRI D.N. REDDY: What is the financial implication? He has not said PROF. K.K. TEWARY Why do anything aobut that. you get obsessed with zero?
HON. MEMBERS Zero. SHRI D.N. REDDY: I am not getting obsessed. PROF. K.K. TEWARY: This agree .. ment was keeping in view the mark~t PROF. K.K. TEWARY You were demand and also in order to be in compe- not clear and I asked you to repeat. tition- Jocally in the country and inter.. nationaJly. We ha ve already received SHRJ S. JAIPAI.. REDDY: He bas orders for this equipment in two places. been promoted from Zero Hour Member BHEL has been able to secure orders for to a Minister. Rs. 7 ('rores for Rajgh.lt and Khaparkheda projects. Thi~ technology has been taken MR. SPEAKER Everything starts to keep BHEL in the competitive worJd from zero. (Interruptions) market PROF. K. K. TEWAR.Y You THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY remained zero. This is including your AND MINISTER OF PETROLEUM party. AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI NARAYAN DATT TIWARI): I are MR. SPEAKER: Do you mean that just supplementing to what my coJIeague he was tbe hero of the Zero Hour. just now mentioned. . AN HON. MEMBER: He was op- Our terms of collaboration are Jump- posed to the hero, may be the viJIian of sum payment of 2.5 million Swiss Franc the zero hour. (Interruptions) net of Indian taxes in four instalments. The first instalment is 25% after agreement SHRI D.N. REDDY: It it a faet come into force and capital goods clear- that production capacity of the BHEL was ance obtained. The second instalment- effected .last year as compared to the pre- 35~{. on receipt of dOcument.. Third instal· vious year? If so, why? Is it a fact ment 25% after despatch of contract pro- that there were strikes and other difficul- ducts-of net ex·factory price of Rs. 25 ties in the last one year which has effected lakhs or four years after the agreement production. comes into force. Fourth instalment and , last 15% after the commissioning of con- tract products of ex-factory selling price of HON. MEMBERS: Zero. 25 lakbs but not later than four years from the contracting date. PROF. K.K. TEWARY : It is difficult to answer that. Productivity has not been affected, to the best of my knowledge. Roya~ty : It is 5% subject to tax until the Company recciv.es 4 lakhs Swiss Francs BHEL's last year's performance was good. net of Indian Taxes and 2.5% thereafter. The projected profit and overall perfor- mance of BHEL in 1985-86 and 1986 .. 87 SHRI D.N REDDY: Is it a fact are going to be landmarks in the history that bulk of the production capacity of of tbis Company BHEL. 31 JULY 29, 1986
Brad.... IDI faeillty for S,athetie yarn and vice-versa subject to certain Mre ....stry conditions so that they can make optimum use o'f policy-condensation facilities. + *171. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Sir, this SHRI SATYENDRA decision of the Government apparently NARA Y AN SINHA : flows from its new textile policy. Because, previous]y, it was the policy of the Government and the textile polky, that Will the Mini.iter of INDUSTRY be mixture of cotton and polyester was consi- pleased to state : derered to be the most desirable blending, which the textile industry was expected to (8) wh~ther Government have seen comply with. Under the new po]jcy this the report in the 'Economic Times' dated broad-banding means that unprecedented July 6. 1986 that the broad-banding facili- enc0uragement is being gIven to the use of ties for synthetic fibre industry would bene- polyester filamel1t ym n to the exclusion of fit only one large firm in that sector; cotton at all in the blending What will be its impact? Have the Government consi- (b) if so, Government's reaction dered its impact on cotton prices, on the thereto ; and demand of cotton and cotton production and how it is going to affect the cotton (c) whether the conditions for broad- groy. ers in this country since cotton WiJl no banding would be modified to enable all Jonger practically be used at all in .. favour other unit~ in the industry to benefit from of this synthetic yarn? its provisions ? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AND MINISTER OF PETROLEUM DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI NARAYAN DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA· DA IT TIWARI): While I would not CHALAM): (a) Yes, Sir. like to encroaeh upon the jurisdiction of my colleague, the Minister for Textiles, (b) and (c) It would Dot be correct because be would be in a better position to to say that the recent policy of broad- explain the textile policy, I agree that this banding in the synthetic fibre industry is broad-banding has been envisaged an the to benefit only one large firm in the private textile policy statement announced in June, sector. The recent announcement is to 1985. But as far as my information goes provide flexibility in the polyester industry. this does not mean that cotton production The same news item accepts that the will suffer. In view of the demand and industry has accorded a general welcome the need for more per capita consumption as the present scheme is the logical exten- of textiles in the country (with a higher sion of earlier policy. The scheme of standard of living and more people cross- broad-banding is one of the measures ing the'poverty hne) the consumption of towards liberalisation of industrial licensing cloth per capita is also going to increase policy and with a v'iew to encourage larger substantially in the country. Therefore, volume of production and provide flexibi- there is a scope both for cotton and man- lity to the manufacturers to adjust their made fibre. So, it is not correct to say product mix depending UPOll the market that only polyester filament yarn will be in trend. Since July, 1983 when the scheme demand. Our projection is like this, and of broad-banding was first introduced it ,our experts also teU us, that in future bas been extended to 28 industries includ- there is going to be more demand i.n the ing Synthetic Fibre/Synthetic Yarn indus- synthetic fibre field also. I t is also repor- try. After taking ioto consideratiol) the ted that there is going to be more demand ekisting policy of minimum economic size for polyester staple fibre compJred to to bring down the cost of production and polyester filament yarn in the future. At obtain economies of scale, the" recent policy present, yarn is more in demand but in of broad-banding permits Polyester Staple future the projection is like that b~cause Fibre units to make polyester filament wben we come to blended fabrics the SRAVANA 'I, 1901(S~) demand will be balanced. Therefore, I Union Government so far gi vine tbe II8IDC would lay that action bas been t~ken. Our of the foreign collaborator, capacity aad toStiile policy bas been generally welcomed estimated outflow of rorei.lfl exchaoge jor and tbi. broad·banding bas been intro- import of components etc. in each case ; duced. (b) whet her some more proposals are under Government's consideratioo ;
MR. SPEAKER Question Hour is (c) if so, the details thereof; aod over. (d) whether the total capacity wUI be more than the estimated demand wben aU the proposals are cleared by Government? WRI1TBN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THE MINISTER OF INDUSTllY AND [E",.lIlh] MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI NARAYAN Foreign Collaboratloa for maDufacturlng DATT TIWARI): (a) Statement I is Can given below.
-165. SHRI VUby KUMAR YADAV: (b) Yes, Sir. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (c) Statement II is given below.
(8) the proposals for car manufacture (d) The demand factor is taken into with foreign collaboration cleared by the consideration while deciding the proposal.
Statemeat I
Name of the Indian Co. Name of collaborator Broad-banded Licensed capacity
1. Maruti Udyog Ltd., Suzuki Motor Co., Japan 1,00,000 Gurgaon
2. Premier Automobiles Ltd •• Nissan Motor Co~, Japan 28,600 Bombay (For Engine Transmission only)
3. Hindustan Motors Ltd., Isuzu Motor Co., Japan 50,000 Calcutta (For Engine transmission only)
4. StlDdard Motor Product of Austin Rober, U.K. 27.500 India Ltd., Madras
S. Sipni Automobiles Ltd., Reliant Motor Co., U.K. 3,000 Banplore
Quantity and value of import of various items includiq automobiles and tbeir parts aDd beiDa publisbed in the "Monthly Statistics of the Foreign Trade of I~dia, Vol. n lmporta" copies of whicb are availablo in the Parliament Library. IS
Stat..... n
Name of tbe Indiaa Co. from wbom Name of Collaborator proposal. for manufacture/coUaboration bave been reoei..a.
1. Mis. TELCO. Bombay Honda Motor Co. Japan
2. M/I. Premier Automobiles Ltd., Nissan Motor Co. Japan Bombay
3. M/8. Bscorta Ltd., MIs. Citreon International, Faridabad. France
4. Mis. Mabiodra & Mahindra Ltd., MIs. Automobile Peugeot, Bombay France
s. MIs. Hindustan Motors Ltd. MIs. Isuzu Motor Co. Calcutta Japan.
of the Eighth Five Year Plan subject to availability of resources .
• 166. SHlU HUSSAIN DALWAI: (b) 1969 villages are yet to be electri- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased fied as on 30.6.1986 in Maharashtra. to state: (c) and (d). Out of a total of 1112 Cd) if 10. the time by which these *170. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: vilJales will be electrified ? WiJl the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND (a) whether the import of capro- MINJSTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- lactum, a basic raw material required by TIlY OF PeTROLEUM AND NATURAL the nylon industry for producing nylon GAS (SHRlMATl SUSHILA ROH- yarn and lyre cord bas been curtailed by TAOI): (a) Yes, Sir. A target for Government despite the fact tbat tho eJectrtflratloll or r.18 lath vilfaJes has lodiaenous production is inadequate to been 6&td for the Seventh Plan. £I"orl. meet ,tbe demand ; are hem ...de to achieve ceot per cent eJ«trfIicatioD in the COIlOtr)' by the end (b) i~ 10. the reulODl thereof ; aDel """'" AII",er, SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) (c) to what extent the restriction eemeat Plaats in Ka ~aataka imposed by Government is likely to afrect *172. SHRI SRIKANTA DAnA the nylon industry in the country ? NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR.: Will the Minister of INDU'iTRY be pleased to. ,tate: , (a) the number of cement plants set up in private and public sector at diffe- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY rent places in Karnataka ; AND MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI NARAYAN (b) the number of cement pJants:which DATT TIWARI) : (a) to (c). At present have started commercial production ; the domestic availability of Caprolactum (c) the capacity of each cement plant; is not adequate to meet the requirements and of Nylon Industry, The shortfall is, met through imports. As per Import and (d) the details thereof? Export Policy 1985-88, the import of THE MINISTER OF INDUSTBRY Caprola( tum is allowed under limited AND MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND permissible category. The quar.tity::: 110- NATURAL GAS (SHRI NARAYAN wed to be imported is determined taking DATT TIWARI) : (a) to (d). The details into account the requirement of actual or cement plants which are in production users and the availability from domestic in the State of Karnataka are as sources. foHows :- SI. Name of the cement plant Location Annual licensed No. capacity (in lakh tonnes) (Lerge Coment Plants) PUBLIC SECTOR 1. Cement Corpn. of India Kurkunta, 2.00 Dt. Gulb2rga 2. Visvesveraya Iron &. Steel Ltd. Bhadravati ].00 Dt. Shimoga PRIVATB SECTOR 3. The Associated Cement Cos. Wadi 16.00 Ltd. Dt. Gulbagra 4. -do- Shahabad S.45 Dt. Gulbarga 5. B.pliot UdyOI Ltd. Bagalkot 3.lO Ot. Bijapur 6. Mysore Cements Ltd. Ammasandra S.10 Dt. Tumkut JUL Y 29, ~916 1 2 3 4 1. Rajeshwari Cement Malkhed 5.. 40 (Indian Rayon Corporation) Dt. Gulbarga 8. Vasavdatta Ce~ent (Ki~oram) Sedam 5.00 Dt. Gulbarga (Mini Cement PI.'I) PUBmc SBCTOR -Nil PIUVATB SECfOR. .1. Lotapur Cement Pvt. Ltd. Lokapur 0.33 Dt. Bijapur 2. Veda Cement Inds. Ltd. Hosadurga 0.27 Dt. ,Chitradurga 3. Kamatata Infrastructures Pvt. Marthur 0.33 Ltd. Dt. Gulbarga 4. Karnataka Cement Ltd. • Chitapur 0.66 (Siace May. 1985) Dt. Gulbarga s. ICamataka Minerals & Mfg. Co. Mathod 0.33 Ltd. (Since .Dec. 1985) Dt. Chitradurga 6. Lokhandwala Cement Pvt. Ltd. Itdgehalli 0.66 (Since January 1986) Dt. Chitradurga 1. Siva Minerals & Cement Inds. .J{anchipura 0.66 'Pn. Ltd. (Since Dec. 1985) Dt. ChitradUlla Total capacity: 46.49 StndInI Reorplllsatioa of Pable Eater- enterprises to improve their perfor- ...... C8IIIp8IIJ For Sick mance ; Valu (b) whether there is a proposal for -173. SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI : settiDg up a hoJding company for some medium size sick companies ; SHRI LV. SHANICARA GOW- DA: (c) wliether there ,are proposals for in troduciog better, mana,ement methods, WiJt dle"MiDister of INDUSTRY be workers participation and appropriate pleued to atate : financial and pricin, policies iD tbe public enterprises ; and (a) ....er there it a proposal lor , ItnICtUral reorpaitadon of the pubHo (d) if 10. the detail. thereof? sitAV~A ',. (SAKA) THB MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (vj) Bridge and Roof Co. (lDd!a) AND MlNIStBR OF PETROLEUM AND Ltd. NATURAL GAS (SHItI NARAYAN DA1T TIWAIU) : (a) to (d). The It is also the government's endeavour Government have accepted in principle to improve the performance of the public holding companies structure as a frame- enterprises by introducing better manage- work of organisational structure for public ment methods, encouragin. worken parti- enterprises and in pursuance of this two cipation in management and introduciol holding companies-one with headquarters appropriate financial and pricing policies at Calcutta and another with headquarters for the public enterprises. The Govern- at Allahabad-are being set up. These ment have given special emphasis for holding companies consist of :- training and re-training of personnel. The Bureau of Public Enterprises coordinates (1) Holding company 'With headquar- various trainiog programmes includinl ter, at Calcutta Advanced Management Traininl Pro- gramme for senior executives of public en terprises. With regard to workers parti- (i) Bharat Brakes &. Valves cipation in management, a scheme wu Ltd. notified by the Ministry of Labour on 30.12.1983. The scheme en'fisages parti- (ii) Engineering portion of cipation of labour at the shop floor, plant Bbarat Process and Mecha- level and Board level in public .UDder- nical Engineers Ltd. and takings excepting those whicb have been weigh bird (India) Ltd. specificalJy exempted. The Ministry of Labour has constituted a tripartite com- (iii) Lagan Jute Machinery Co. mittee to monitor the progress of the Ltd. scheme of employees participation. This committee held three meetings to review (iv) Bharat Wagon & Enginee- progress in the implementation of the ring Co... Ltd. scheme. 87 Central public entel'Jkiaes have so far introduced the scheme of (v) Bum Standard Company employees participation in managelDeDt Ltd. at shop ftoor/plant level. (vi) Jessop & Compaoy Ltd. The Government is also CODsideriq formulation of policies in reaard to pri- (vii) Braithwaite &. Co. Ltd. ciog in Central public enterprises. However thr policies in this regard have DOt yet (viii) Braithwaite Burn, Jessqp & been finalised and as sucb DO details are Co. Ltd. ayailable at present. (2) Holding company wi'" i«IdqllDr- Aae...... ts to Reprae8tatiea of tM tel" at A.llahabad Peo,Ie Acc. (i) Bharat Heavy PJate &\ ·174. SHRI SHANTARAM MAlIC : Vessels Ltd. Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICB be pleased to state : (ii) Bharat Pumps, and Com- pressors Ltd. (a) whether Government propose to' bring forward a legislation to ameod the (iii) Triveni Structurals Ltd. R.epresentation of the People Act, 19$0 and the Representation of the People Act, (iv) Tunaabhadra Steel Products 1951 for introduciDI electoral reforms; Ltd. and (v) l\iebardsoa & Cruddas (1972) (b) if so, the salient features of tilt Ltd. proposcc1 reforms ? 43 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE from the State Government, it is not possi- MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE ble to ascertain the incidence of increase (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) Yes, of power tariff on individual cement Sir. The Government are keen to amend plants. the eJection laws with a view to bring- ing about electoral reforms. (c) Cement plants in Madhya Pradeah are having the benefit of relular powor (b) The proposals forwarded by the' supply and they are also nearer coalfields, Election Commission are still under exami· compared to the cement plants in other nation in consultation with the Commission. major cement producing States, namely, After completion of the detailed examina- Karnataka, Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu and tion of the proposals and formulation of Gujarat. Hence the reported increase in views thereon, Government would hold power tariff may not affect the cement consultations with political parties before units in Madhya Pradesh adversely com- arriving at final decisions. It is, however, pared to such units in other States. not possible at this stage to specify the proposals which may emerge after consul- (d) and (e). No. Sir. Since the retention tation_. with political parties. price for levy cement is fixed uniformly for the cement units in the country as a IDcrease in Power Tariff for Cement whole and it takes into account various IDdustry iD Madbya Pradesh factors and not only the power tariff, it is dot considered necessary to make any *17S. SHRI RAM PAL SINGH: revision in the price of levy cement pro- SHRI KRISHNA SINGH : duced by factories in Madhya Pradesh. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be CODstruction of Hydro-E lectric Projects pleased to state : in Ladakh Region (a) whether tile Governm eat of ·176. SHRI P. NAMGYAL: Will Madhya Pradesh bas increased power the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to tariff for cement industry from June, state i 1986 ; (a) whether the people of Ladakh (b) if so, the extra amount each have been requesting the Union Govern- cement company will have to pay in that ment to construct through the National region, with details thereof; Hydro-electric Power Corporation, two hydel projects i.e. Parkachik Hydel Project (~) whether this increase in power in Kargil and Domkhar Main Hyde) Pro- tariff' will Bot lead to unfair compatition ject in Leh of Ladakh region keeping in visa vis cement plants in otber regions ; view the extreme backwardness and sensi- tiveness of the areas and acute shortale of (d) wDetl:ler Goyernment propose to power in the region; and int.-rease the price of levy cement coming from that region ; and (b) if so, whether Government pro- (e) if Dot, tbe reasons tbereof 7 pose to implement the projects, at the earliest and jf not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY AND MINISTER OF PETROLEUM THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI NARA- DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND YAN DATI TIWARI): (a> and (b). It MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- has been reported that the Government of TRY OF PEXROLEUM AND NATURAL MadQa Pradesh had revised upward the GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : power tarift' for certain industries includioa (a) and (b). The techno-economic feasi- cement ind1.·stry in respect or supplies hility of these scbemes is yet to be establi. made at 132/UD K,V Unes As, however, shed aDd the qOe8tioD of their imple- die exact detans have Dot bcco r.. vcd mentation does Dot arise at this ltale. Written Amwe,s SRAVANA ',19M (SAKA) W"ttell ~1IIlHr' Import or Pollution CODtrol Equipment early approval to foreian technical colla- boration and problems of tbe *177. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: nnancial HaJdia Petro.. Chemicals Project; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : I (b) if so, the stage a t which tho , (a) whether large scale import of matter stands at present ; and pollution control equipment is likely to adversely affect indigenous manufacturers (c) how long it will take to cloa_c this as reported in "The Economic Times" of proj ect and what assistance will be provid- 30 June, 1986 ; and ed to the Government of West Bengal for (b) the corrective steps proposed to the speedy execution of the project? be taken in the matter? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY AND MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND AND MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SURI NARAYAN NATURAL GAS (SHRI NARAYAN DATT TIWARI): (a) to (c). Both the DATT TIWARI): (a) ane (b). In terms technical and financial aspects of the seven of the current import policy for the period foreign collaborCltion proposals for the April, 1985-March J988, the item of air Haldia Petrochemicals project have been pollution and air control equipment is approved subject to certain conditions. included at SI. No. 6{9) of Appendix 1- part A of Volume I which comprises the It is now for the holder of the letter list of restricted items of capital goods. of intent to take steps for speedy execution Accordingly, the licences for import of of the project. The Central Financial this equipment can be Issued against appli- Institutions are expected to duly process cations that are submitted in accordance and consider any appli~ations for assis- with the policy for import of capital tance as and when received. goods. Where the value of capital goods required exceeds Rs. 20 lakhs, the require- ment should be advertised in the Indilao Short supply of L.P .G./Petrol Trade Journal or the Indian Export Bulle- tin against which the indigenous mauafac- *179. SHit} SUBHASH VADAV: turers have the opportunity to respond WiU the Minister of PETROLEUM AND and their capabilities are taken into consi- NA TURAL GAS be pleased to stat. : deration before clearance for import, if any, is granted. ]n cnses where the adver- (a) whether attention of Governmellt tisement procedure is not applicable, the has been drawn to the news item appearinl applications are examined from indigenous in the Hindustan Tim\!s dated 20th June, availability angle and c1earance for import 1986 wherein it bas been stated that 42 is accorded only in cases the indigenous agencies supplying LPG have been found manufacturers are not in a position to meet having sbort weight LPG cylinders ; the requirement. With the above provisions, it is expec (b) if so, whether it bas also been ted that there will not be any unrestricted stated that petrol pumps ha vo been found import of air pollution control equipment. giving short delivery of petrol and diesel ; and Foreign Collaboration for Haldia Petro- chemicals Project (c) if so, the action taken by Govern- *178: SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: ment against such defaulters ? SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER. AND Mil'll. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY pleased to state: OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (a> whether tbo Government of West (SHlUMATI SlJSHILA ROHTAGl).: Benp} bal sought Union OoverDOKUlt·s (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. ",rlttell Alllwrl jt1LY 29, Ih6 Written kstver, (c) Action .UDder tbe Jaw has been [Englisll] initiated by the Delhi Administration against the dealers concerned. Appoiatmeat of Judges in Karuataka High Court (Tran.rlotion] Requiremeat of electricity in Gujarat *181 PROF. MADHU DANDA- VATE: .180. SHRI C.D. GAMIT SHRI S.G. GHOLAP : SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: Wi)) the Minister of LAW AND Will the Minister of ENERGY be JUSTICE be pleased to state : pleased to state: Blackmarketing in coal Proposal to increase strength of Delhi Judicial Senice ·18~ DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR 1494. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of ENERGY DR. A.K. PATEL: be pJeased to state : Wil1 the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state : (a) ~hether Government are aWare that blackmarketing in coal is on the in· (a) whether Government had received crease in the country; and in July, 1984 proposals from Delhi Admi- nistration to increase the strength of Delhi (b) if so, the steps taken to curb it ? Judicial Service ; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (b) if so, efforts made to get the VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Under nenessary statistical data for compu~ation the Col1iery Control Order, Government of the judges strength from the Registry have statutorily fixed on Iy the pit-head pri- of De1hi High Courts and with what re- ces of various grades of coal. There is no suJts ; and statutory control over the distribution of ;- coaJ except coking coal. (c) the time 1ikely to be taken for a final decision in this matter? 2. Coal is supplied to consumers whose requirement have been assessed by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the various sponsoring authorities or by MINISTR Y OF LA W AND JUSTICE Coal India. A number of coUicries have (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): Ca> to (c). also been earmarked for free sale to the The proposa I to increase cadre strength of public in general. Coal workers in coal Delhi Judicial Service Was received in July. fields also customarily get some coal, for 1984. The necessary statistical data for personal consumption free of charge. computation of judges' strength has been obtained from the Delhi High Court and the proposal is under active consideration 3. Some of the consumers are repor· of the Government. However. no specific ted to be indulging in sale of coal at a date can be given for finalisation of the premium to those consumers who have a decision at this stage. low prioriority in rail movement. In order to curb this malpractice following steps Multi Access Rural Radio 8,stem in North have been taken by the Government and Western Telecom Circle Coal India Limited :- 1495. PROF. NARAIN CHAND (i) A number of stockyards have PARASHAR: Will the Minister of been opened to supply coal to COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: small consumers baving low priority in rail movement; (a) whether the Multi Access Rural Radio System (MARRS) has made any headway in the North Western Telecom. Circle; (ij) Speci~l allocation of rakes Is being made to brick kiln owners (b) if so, names of the places ~here whose priority is low. the Base Stations and Public CaU Offices parented to them have been set up durin. (iii) Assessment of a consumer's the last three years includinB the current requirement is checked by CIL financial year, itl each one of the eonsti- officers to make it realistic be- tuent States and Union Territory of fore Bivins linkaae. Chandisarh ; and Written Anlwi"s JuL y ~•• 986_ Written A"6Wrl (c) what is the programme (or the Funds allocated in this regard for installation of Base Stations and Public North-Western Telcom. Circles are Rs. 250 telephoDes parented to them during each lakhs approximateJy. one of the remaining years of the Seventh Plan; and what are the financial alloca- tions in this regard for North Western Rural Electrification Programme Telcom Circle? 1496. SHRI SIMON TIGGA: Will THE l\1INISTER OF STATE OF THE the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS state: (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether Rural Electification Pro- (b) Installation of two MARRS (Multi gramme has fallen short of target by 24 per Access Rural Radio System) with base cent during 1he last ten months ; stations at Krukchetra and Kaithal (Har" yana State) is in progress. The number of Long Distance Public Telephones (b) the details of the Rural Electri- (LDPT) proposed to be opened from these fication Programme, State-wise in the same two base stations is 6 and 23 respectively. period; and No LDPT has, however, been opened so far aDd no such installation is going on in the other States Le. Punjab, Himachal . (c) the action being taken to achieve Pradesh and Union Territory of Chandi- the target? garh. (c) About 3000 Long Distance Public THE MINISTFR OF STATE IN THE Telephones are proposed to be opened DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND through MARR Systems during the 7 th MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MJNIS- Five Year Plan in the couotry subj~ct to TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL technical feasibility and availability of GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI : MARR equipment. Yearly targets are : (a) and (b). In respect of rural electrifi- cation programme, the targets are being fixed on quarterly basis. In the last three quarters viz. 1.10.85 to 30.6.1986, 17304 villages have been electrified alainst the 1985-86 100 LDPTS tarpt of 18,257 which is 94.18% and 3,68,619 pumpsets have been· energised against the target of 3,31,494 which is 1986-87 300 111.2%. The State-wise details are given " in the Statement below, 1987-88 600 " {c) Review meetings are held with the State Govt~./Electrjcity BoardsfRural 1988·89 800 Electrification Corporation from time to " time to remove the bottlenecks in order to accelerate the pace of electrification pro.. 1989·90 1200 gramme and achieve the targets. " SRA \lANA ~, 1908 (SAkA) Written ~n8we" Statemeat Targets and achievements during last three quarters viz. 1st October, 1985 to 30th June, 1986 regarding ruraJ electrification S. States/V.Ts. ViJlage Electrification Pumpsets energisation No. ------Target Achievement Target Achievement 1 2 3 4 5 6 1. Andhra Pradesh 705 736 57844 74475 2. Assam 1542 1395 425 75 3. Bihar 1896 1911 1 J 160 8603 4. Gujarat 767 635 20650 2OS45 5. Haryana • • 9960 8106 6. Himachal Pradesh 381 573 50 77 7. Jammu & Kashmir 264 79 43 36 8. Karnataka 953 755 31810 37704 9, Kerala * * 9110 13728 10. Madhya Pradesh 2641 2717 30480 34789 11. Maharashtra 440 S06 51000 73968 12. Manipur 91 33 11 6 , 13. Megha)aya 13S 37 14 NIL 14. Nagaland 38 86 15. Orissa 1358 1093 5855 2119 16. Punjab • • 20649 37055 17. Rajasthan 869 1146 8500 9715 18. Sikkim 39 29 19. Tamil Nadu 8 18 34000 20628 20. Tripura 100 13S 46 59 -_----- 1 2 3 4 s 6 21. Uttar Pradesh 3959 4136 26230 19170 22. West Bengal 1935 1178 12990 6626 Total (States) 18120 17198 330743 367484 t. A &, N Islands \ 18 18 Z. A runacbal Pradesh 83 71 3. Chandigarh • • 7 18 4. D &, N Haveli * 1= 12 IS s. Delhi *. * 425 739 6. Goa, Daman & Diu 1 1 163 243 7. Lakshadweep * * 8. Mizoram 35 16 9. Pondicherry * * 144 125 Total (U.Ts.) 137 106 751 1140 Total (All India) 18257 17304 331494 368619 (94.78%) (l11.2001o) • Cent percent villages electrified. BraDd DalIla registered ill name of (b) whether these are registered in Hindastan lAw ..• Limited' India in the name of MIs. Hindustan Lever Limited ; and 1497 .. SHR! SODE RAMAIAH : Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (c) if so, tbe reasons therefor? state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (a) wbether it is fact that Surf, Sun- DEPARTMENT OF INDYSTRIAL DEVE· ligbt, Lifebuoy, LUI, Resona, Pear. and LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Vuu are blteraatl()Jla) braod Damos; . (a) The Trade and MorcbaadilO Marks Written An.twer. SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written A,nsWer"I $8 Act, 1958 does not contain any definition three years due to the imposition of ban of international brand names. order on fresh appointments; if so, the number of such E.D.B.O.s/B.P.O.s opened (b) Of the names mentioned at (a) in various postal circles in the country abo'\{e, Surf, Sunlight, Lifebuoy, Lux and in the years 1984-85, 1985-86 and 1986-87 Vim 'are registrred in India in the name of till June; MIs. Hindustan Lever Limited. (b) whether extra departmental (c) They are registered in accordance agents, delivery asents ruoners in with the provisions of the Trade and Mer- E.D.B.O.js B.P.Os are not considered chandise Marks Act, 1958. rugular Government servants; if so, why such ban orde.rs are applicable for their Telecommunications Syltem in Orissa appointments; and 1498. SHRI SRIBAlLAV PAN 1- (c) the act jon taken to relax such ban GRAHl: Will the Minister of COM- on appointments of EID.D.A./E.D. MUNICATIONS be p leased to state; runners 7 (a) the problems experienced by the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Telecommunications Department in the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS State of Orissa ; (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) The Government ban on creation of posts (b) whether the work for the alterna- is in force since January' 84 and is still tive feeder line has been undertaken; continuing subject to clarifications/modi- and fications issued from time to time. During this period, no new post offices (c) if so, the details regarding its whether extra-departmental or depart- progress 7 mental could be sanctioned if the crea- tion of new posts is involved except THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE under a special dispensation. The number MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS of extra-departmental and departmental (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) post offices opened during 1984-85, was Telecommunication systems in Orissa 59 and nil during 1985-86 and 1986-87. suffers mainly due to power failures, breakdown of overhead alignments, due to (b) Even though extra-departmental natural calamities like storms, heavy rains, posts are outside regular civil services, floods, in-adequacy of reJiable transmission they are posts under tbe Government media. and, therefore, a ban on creation of posts would apply to extra-departmental" posts as (b) Yes, Sir. well. (c) For Bhubaneswar Exchange a (c) At present there are no firm pro- leparate feeder has already been provi- posals for opening of new post offices, ded. extra-departmental or departmental and therefore, there is no question of taking For Cuttack Exchange estimate for action to seek relaxation of ban. However, a separate feeder has been received from creation of Posts under Plan Schemes can State Electricity Board Orissa. be taken up depending on justifica- tion. Ban on Fresh AppOintments of E.D.D.A.! E.D. RUDners Ji'alse AdvertisellleDts about Produets 1499. SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA: 1500. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK : Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be be pleased to state: pleased to state : blatantly ralae claims about their products very of 98% of telegrams within 12 hours through advertisements ; from the time of booking. The Action Plan is to be implemented during the (b) if so, the details thereof; and Seventh Five Year Plan. (c) the action Government propose Action taken OD recommendations of Chief to take against such Companies? Justices Conference held in Februar" 1985 \ TRE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB IS02. DR. A.K. PATEL: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: CHALAM) : (a) to (c). The MRTP Act, 1969 was amended w.e f. 1-8-1984 when Will the Minister of LAW AND the provisions relating to unfair trade JUSTICE be pleased to state the action practices were brought into force. Since taken by Government on the recommen- that date and up to 30-6-1986, the MRTP dations made at the Conference of Chief Commission has received 204 referen :es, Justices in February, 1985 regarding (i) complaints and applications alleging issue setting up of High Court benches in diffe- of misleading advertisements for the rent regions of the respective States; purpose of promoting ~ales. The Com- and (ii) conditions of service of High mission has taleen necessary action in this Court and Supreme Court judges? regard as per the provisions of section 36D and other relevant provisions of the THE M1NISTER OF STATE IN THE MRTP Act, 1969. MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H R. BHARDWAJ): (i) The Action Plan for Modernisation of Telearaph views expressed at the Chief Justices Con- Senices ferer,ce in February, 1985 regarding setting up of Benches of High Courts have been 1SOI. SHRI JAGANNATH PATT- noted by the Government. NAIK : Will the Minister of COMMUNI- CAnONS be pleased to state : (ii) The Government have since formulated their decisions for making (a) whether Government have initia- improvements in the service conditions of ted in action plan for modernisation of Judges of High Courts and Supreme the Telegraph S~rvices within three years Court. Necessary Bill for giving effect to so that 98 percent telegrams are delivered these decisions is being iDJroduced in the within 12 hours -of making; and House. (b) if so, the details regarding this S.T.D. FacUities in Dulciana District plan? IS03. SHRI MUKUL WASNIK : Will THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS pleased to state : (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Yea, Sir. (a) whether Government. propose to (b) A 3-year Action Plan bas been provide STD facility to Buldana district drawn for the modernisation of tbe during the Seventh Plan period ; and Telegraph Network. This Action Plan envisllH development and introduction (b) if so~ when this facility is likely of Store and Forward Message Switching to be provided ? Systems, Electronic Teleprinters, Electro- nie Key-Boards, Electronic Concentrators THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE aud Phonocom Concentrators as building MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS blocks of the Mechanised network. The (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Actioa Plan envisages mochanisatk>n of Yes, Sir. STn (aciU., for Buldana ia H% of ,be Dctwork aDd is aimed at deli· proposed. 61 SRAVANA 7.1908 (SAKA) "'"",,. A.lltwr, 62 (b) S.T.D. facility to Buldana is iikely (b) the reasons for giving conces- to be provided towards the end of 7th sional trunk calls only for short periods of plan. night; and ~ettiDg up of more mini-Hydel Plants in (c) whether the old system will b.: .' Deficit States restored in respect of concessionsl trunk calls to and from rural areas ? 1504. SHRI AMARSINH RATH- AWA: Will tbe Minister of ENERGY THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE be pleased to state : MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No (a) whether the Union Government Sir. Generally provision of phone faci .. have provided funds to each State for lity depends upon demand, financial setting up mini .. hydel plants; viability of the proposal, traffic and provisions made as per plan alloca- (b) if so, the number of mini-hyde) tion. However, this condition is relaxed plants set up by each State; for rural areas and small Telephone exchanges and Long distance public tele- (c) how fur these are helping to solve phones are provided on subsidIsed basis as the problem of power shortage; and a policy. (b) The short night concessional (d) whether Government propose to tariff period has been introduced since set up more mini-hydel plants in the two years to have the optimum Use of deficit States dUrIng the yeClr 1986-87 ? available trunk circuits and trunk boards not only during day time but in the night THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE time as well, if during the latter period DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND traffic could be generated with reduced MINlSTER OF ST ATE IN THE MINIS- charges. TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMA TI SUSHILA ROHT AGI) : (c) No Sir. (a) to (c). No, Sir. Micro/mini/sman hydro-electric projects are currently being WaitiDg list for telephone cODDectioDs in executed under the vanous State Plans. Malappuram district, Kerala A t present, 89 such schemes with a total Installed capacity of about 172 MW are 1506. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: under operation in the country. This Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS constitutes a little more than 1% of the be pleased to state : total insta))ed capacity of about 15 million KW from hydro-electric schemes. In (a) the number of applicants in the addition, 72 micro/mini/small hydro- Malapuram district of Kerala waiting for electric projects with a total installed telephone connection as on lst April, 19Bt; capacity of about 167 MW are under (station-wise figures); construction. (b) how many of those applicants are (d) Does not arise. expected to get telephones by the end of March, 1987; and Telephone facilities in urban areas (c) the steps being t"ken t(.' expedIte 1505. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: the provision of telephone connections in Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS the afore-mentioned district? be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB (a) whether it is a fact thelt rural MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS arears are getting lesser phone facilities (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) in recent years as compared to urban The required information is given in tho areas; Statement below. JULY 29, 1986- (b) Nearly SOOt subject to availability of resources and materials. 1 2 3 (c) With the limited resources aUo- cated for 7th PJan, it has beeD planned 26. . Pandikkad 12 to clear tbe present waiting list by the end of the 7th Plan period. 27: Parappannga'di 127 28. Perintaimanna ISS StatemeDt 29. Ponnani 122 SJ. Name of Station No. of applicants 30. Pookkoetumpadem 22 No. on Waiting list 31. Pulamantbole 33 on 1.4 86 32. Puzhakkattiri 21 33. Ranadathani 32 1. Anamangal 14 34. Tanur 161 2. Arcacode 46 35. Tavannur 2 3. Changaramkulam 76 36. Thazhocode 7 4. Cbelad 35 37. Tirunavaya S5 S. Edakkar 75 38. Tirurangadi 72 6. Edapal 7S 39. 'Tirur 426 7. EdabanDa 32 40. Valancherry 141 8. Edavammapara 25 41. Val1uvambram 76 9. Kadambuzha 38 42. Vongara 239 10. Kanikavu 8 43. Wan door 97 11. Ka1pakancberry 118 Total 3758 12. Karuvarakundu 34 13. Kolathur 17 Setting up of Telecommunication Finance Kondotty 14. 143 Corporation IS. KOltakka) 189 1507. DR. B.L. SHAILESH : Will the 16. Kuttipuram 96 Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : 17. Makkar apparamba 46 18.' Malappuram 201 (a) whether the modalities have been completed for tbe setting up of a Telecom- 1'- Mangalam 78 munication Finance Corporation which win provide funds to the Department of 20. Manjeri 262 Telecommunications for expansion and 21. Mankada 31 modernisation of telecommunication net- work; 22. Mar~ncberry 132 23. Malatbur· 20 (b) jf so, the details thereof; .... 24. Nilambur 116 (c) whether the proposed corporation is aimed to raise resources through 25. Palapetty 61 domestic aa well a, foreisn borrowinPi Written An""r, SRAVANAI7,1900 (SAKA) Wrlttell """wer, (d) if SOt whether the finances raised (c) whether Government have a abroad will be utilised mostly for the proposal to augment tbe storage capacity purchase of equipment; of different public sector oil companies; and \ (e) whether the Mabanagar Tele- phone Nigam and Indian Telephone (d) if so, the steps taken in this Industries Limited will malce their own regard 'I public borrowings during the Seventh Five Year Plan for their expansiClo and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE modernisation plans; and DEPARTMENT OF POWBR AND MINI$TER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- (f) if so, the respective targets Jaid TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATUltAL down in this behalf? GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGIl: (a) The names of' the public sector oil ~ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE companies dealing with the storage and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS distribution of diesel, petrol, kerosene,' (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) furnace oil, etc. in the country are : No. Sir. 0) Indian Oil Corporation Ltd. (b) Does Dot arise in view of answer to (a) above. (ii) Indian Oil Corporation Ltd. (Assam Oil Division). (c) and (d). The matter is under consi· deration. (iii) Bharat Pctrol~um Corporation Ltd. (e) Yes, Sir, to meet partly their (iv) Hindustan Petroleum Corporation expansion and modernisation plans. Ltd. (f) No target has been laid for the (v) I.~.P. Co. Ltd. Seventh Plan as a whole. It is being done on annual basis. (b) Statements I, II and HI showing Augmentation of storage capacity of Petroleum annual sa]es of major products and total Products sale of 811 petroleum products by the aforesaid oil companies during the years 1508. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- 1983 .. 84 to 1985 86 (year-wise) are given NAIK : Will the Minister of PETRO· below. LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (c) an~ (d). Govt. have taken steps to augme"t the storage capacity of dill'e- (a) the names of tbe public sector oil rent public sector oil companies. Under companies dealing with the storage and phase I of the additional product tankage distribution of diesel, petro], kerosene, programme, the construction of 0.96 furnace oil, etc.; million K.L of tankage bas been takea up and is expected to be 'lII'lted in 1,.. (b) the average monthly/quart.ly or 81. Under Pbase II It ~I tbe aame annual sale of these oils by the dift'orent programme. an additiODll atorQe of 0.37 public sector oil companies during last million :KL has been approved and this three years, ycar-wise; is expected to be cOQstructed b)' 1987-88, " ,Writlell .41fswers JUL¥ 29, 1986 W,IIIen A",."" 63 ,.... 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CIS -o ~- Q o .: SRAVAil A 7, 190i (SAttA) Written An,." Rural Auto_tie Telephoae Exchange in automatic exchange is already working at CanaanGre Canoanore. ]S09. SHRI A. CHARLES: Will the (b) Does not arise in view of (a). Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : Pendiag cases ia High Courts 1510. SHRI MAHENDRA SINOH : (a) whether there is any proposal to Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICB establish a R.ural Automatic Telephone be pleased to state the details of cases Exchan ge in Cannanore: and pending before different Hiah Courts for over 10 years,S years and 3 years? (b) if so, the stage at which the matter stands ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTR Y OF LA W AND JUSTICE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): Information MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS as furnished by the Registries of Hiah (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) An Courts is given in the Statement below. Statemeat Name of the High Court Number of cases pending over 3 years 5 years 10 years (As on 31.12 1985) 1. Allahabad 1,18,024 5S,595 71,168 2. Andhra Pradesh 24,924 6,403 1 3. Bombay 44,667 23,156 2,631 4. Calcutta 76,836 48,512 12,415 5. Delhi 27,818 14,350 3,714 6. Gujarat 15,483 7,114 71 7. Jammu & Kashmir 10,681 4,744 399 8. Karnataka 36.440 10,618 47 9. KeraIa 23,434 2,391 3 10. Madhya Pradesh IOt663 5,394 1,084 11. Madras 42,090 13,113 20 12. Orissa 9,217 4,145 194 13. Patna 18,228 8,911 1,584 Written Answers .rbL Y 29, 1986 . Written Answers .1 2 3 4 s 14. Punjab &. Haryana 13,523 7,294 66 IS. Rajasthan 20,040 10,292 726 16. Sikkim (As on 30.6.1985) 17. Gaubati 5,433 2,821 165 18. Himachal Pradesh 5,066 2,562 325 {Translation1 Statement Statement showing the state-wise utilisation World Bank assistance for Rural Electri- of Financial assistance provided by the fication Programme World Bank for Rural Electrification Programme during 1985-86 1511. SHRI K.N. PRADHAN : Will State Amount the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (Million $) state: 1. Andhra Pradesh 16.643 (a) the financial assistance provided 2. Bibar 3.581 by the World Bank for Rural Electrifica- 3. Gujarat 5.438 tion Programme during 1985-86; and 4. Haryana 0.988 S. Karnataka 6.385 6. Kerala 3.555 7. Madbya Pradesh 14.350 (b) the State-wise utilisation there- of? 8. Maharashtra 8.060 9. Orissa 0.631 10. Punjab 6.444 11. Rajasthan 3.427 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 12. Tamil Nadu 0.783 DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- 13. Uttat Pradesh 11.064 TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL "14. West Bengal 0.848 GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGJ) : 15. Central Institute of Rural 0.045 (a) and (b). During 1985-86, the World Electrification, Rural Bank has provided financial assistance of Electrification Corporation, • 82.242 million for the Rural Electrifica- Hyderabad. tion Programme. The State-wise utilisa .. tion of finaJlCiaJ assistance is liveD in the Total US $ 82.242 miJlion Statement below. 77 Written Answers SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written An.rwe" 78 [English] approved by the Planning Commission Tor the year 1985-86 and 1986-87 ? A lIocation of (uads (or Rural Electrification in Kerals THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1512. SHRI T. BASHEER : Will the DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS .. TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (a) the total number of villages GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : electrified in Kera]a during 1984 and 1985 (a) nnd (b). Kerale had already achieved and upto March 1986 and the total amount 100% village eJectrification before the spent thereon; advent of the Sjxtb Fjve Year Plan. (b) the total number of villages pro- posed to the electrified during the year (c) The allocation of funds for Rural 1986-87 and the arnot1nt earmarked for the Electrification in the different States purpose; and approved by the Planning Commission for the years 1985-86 and 1986-87 are given in (c) the allocation of funds for rural the Statements I and II below. electrification in the different States StatemeDt I Outlays for Rural Electrification programme during 1985-86. S. States State Plan RE (N) MNP TOTAL No. (Rs. lakhs) 1. Andhra Pradesh 12.84 8.32 21.16 2. Assam 10.22 4.71 iO.07 25.00 3. Bihar 1.00 12.65 8.70 22.35 4. Gujarat 2.00 8.25 10.25 5. Haryana 1.26 3.74 5.00 6. Himacba1 Pradesh 0.25 4.95 0.57 5.77 7. Jammu & Kashmir 0.18 5.95 0.07 6.20 8. Karnataka 5.00 4.83 9.83 9. Kerala 3.19 3.19 10. Madhya Pradesh 4.00 18.90 1500 37.90 11. Maharashtra 43.99 10.34 S4.33 12. Manipur 0.20 0.20 1.20 1.60 13. Megbalaya 2.78 1.22 4.00 JUtY 29, 1986 80 1 2 3 4 s 6 14. NagaJaod 0.30 0.77 0.58 1.65 IS .. Orissa 2.00 10.18 5.00 17.18 16. Punjab 8.91 8.91 17. Rajasthan 11.78 4.22 16.00 18. Siktim 1.65 1.65 19. Tamil Nadu 10.47 4.71 15.18 20. Tripura 2.00 2.00 21. Uttar Pradesh 10.73 17.02 23.00 50.75 22. West Bangal 0.46 18.46 7.61 26.53 Total: 104.90 164.29 77.24 346.43 Statement 0 Outlay, for Rural Electrification programme during 1986-87. (Rs. Lakbs) s. States State Plan REC (N) MNP TOTAL No. 1. Andbra Pradesh 1169 915 2084 2. Assam 1592 518 1207 3317 3. Bihar 900 1391 IS()() 3791 4. Gujarat 290 910 1200 5. ~aryana 189 411 600 6. Himacbal Pradesh 30 S4S 57 632 7. Jammu * Kashmir 655 65S --"-~~~~- 81 Written A",wr, SRAVANA 7,1908 (SAKA) Wrltte" ~t" 82 1 2 3 4 ., 6 8. Karnataka 474 531 1005 9. Kerala 351 351 10. Madhya Pradesh 420 2079 1500 3999 11. Manipur 25 22 200 247 12. Maharashtra 4263 1137 5400 13. Meghalaya 306 140 446 14. Nagaland 5 "85 2S 115 15. Orissa 200 1120 800 2120 16. Punjab 980 980 I 17. Rajasthan 68 1296 100 1464 18. Sikkim 33 182 15 230 19. Tamil Nadu 1227 5]8 1745 20. Tripura . 220 97 317 21. Uttar Pradesh 1100 1872 2500 5472 22. West Benlal 50 2030 800 2880 Total 12035 18074 8941 39056-- . Central Public Uodertakings in Purnea (c) tbe total employment by these district undertakings in terms of man months per year? 1513. SHRI SYED SHAHABUD- DIN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Purnea has been included DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER. in the Jist of NO .. Industry districts in PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): (a) Bihar; Yes, Sir. (b) the names and Jocations of units of Central public sector undertakings (b) and (c). Information is being (excluding the Railways) in Purnea, if any; collected and a statement will be laid on and tbe Table of the House. 84 DedIae la plant load lactor of Thermal Plants [Translation) Post Offices in tbe CeaD try 1514. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: WiJl the Minister of BNERGY be pleased ISIS. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: to state: . Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (a) the reasons for the decline in tbe the average plant load factor of the thermal (a) State-wise number of Post plants to 50.8% during-April, 1986 from Offices set up in rural and urban areas as the peak level f)erformance of 55.4% on II Ma-rch, 1986; achieved in 1976-77; and (b) the average area in Kilometre and population serviced by each Post (b) the steps being taken to improve Office; and the performance of thermal plants? (c) the daily average number of addresses at which mail was delivered in ,THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1985-86 ? DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINIS- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) ROHTAGI) : (a) The Plant Load Factor The information is given in the Statement in tae month of April, 1986 was 58.2% as below. against 55.9% achieved in 1976,77. (b) A post office serves on average an area of 21.94 sq. kms. and a popUlation (b) The measures taken to improve of 4748. the performance of thermal stations include implementation of the Centrally (c) No such data is compiled by the spoq.or~ renovation and modernisation Department. However, it is estimated scheme, improvement in quality of coa]. that during 1984-85, an average 3.28 crore upgradation of. the $iills of operation and pieces of mail per day were delivered in maintenance staff, early stabilisation of the country. The figures for 1985-86 are newlY c_pmmissionCQ qnitsf and reduction likely to be available after September in the outage periods of thermal units. 1986. Statement Stale·wile number 0/ post offices set up in rural and urban areas as on 31.3.86. Cil'eJe No. of Post Offices as on 31.3.86 URBAN RURAL. TOTAL 1. Andbra Pradesh IS02 14675 16177 a. Biftar 604 10269 ]0873 3. Delhi 423 152 S7S 4. Gujarat 992 7605 8S97 I. I .. & K. 154 1303 1457 8$ Wrillsil bIw., SRAVAN4 7. 1908 (SAKA) J 2 3 4 6. Karnataka 1303 8232 9535 7. Kerala 717 3890 4607 8. Madbya Pradesh 887 9S9S 10482 9. Maharashtra 1295 10676 11971 10. North Eastern 418 5265 5683 11. North Western 912 7786 8698 12. Orissa 546" 6989 753' 13. Rajasthan 805 8811 9616 14. Tamil Nadu 2196 9798 11994 15. Uttar Pradesh 1810 16317 18127 16. West Bengal 1118 7196 8314 Total 15682 128559 144141 (c) if so, the remedial steps takeD by Government in this regard ? Workilll of Madras and Muzaffarpur "Lnits of IDPL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTIlIAL DBVB- 1516. SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY: LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleas- (a) The Surgical Instruments Piant of ed to state: Indian Drup &. Pbarmacculicala Limited at Madras continues to be unviable and has incurred a net monthly loss of about (a) whether it is a fact that the non- Rs. 28 lakhs during 1985 .. 86. viable surgical instruments unit of Indian Drug and Pharmaceuticals Limited at Madras has incurred a monthly loss of llet (b) No, Sir. rupees sixty lakhs durin& 1985-86 ; (b) whether it is also a fact that the (c) Indian Drugs & Pharmaceuticals plant of Indian prugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited bas been asked to ~raw a Rebabi- Limited at Muzaffarpur remains more or litation Plan, in consultation with consuJ- less closed because of non-supply of tants, which should include practical and prom.ised alcohol by Bihar Qovernmtnt ; specific steps for makios the Company " and viable proposition. 87 Written An,wers JULY 29, 1986 Written Answer, 88 Representation of S.Cs/S.Ts iD petrol, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE diesel/LPG outlets DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI- STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY IS17. SHRI H.B. PATIL: Will the OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- (SHRIMATI ·SUSHILA ROHTAGI): RAL GAS be pleased to st}\te : (a) No, Sir, (a) the total number of petro] pumps! (b) and (c). Do not arise. diesel outlets in the country at present; Employment to dependents of deceased (b) the number of LPG agencies in employees of Eastern Coalfields Ltd. the country, particularly in Karnataka ; 1519. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: (c) whether adequate/proper representa- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased tions have been given to Scheduled Castel to state : Scheduled Tribe applicants for the above outlets/agencies according to Government (a) the nllmber of cases of employ- policy and gl!idelines ; and ment to the dt:pendents of the deceased employees pending with the Headquarters (d) if Dot, when the proper represen- of Eas ern Coalfields Limited from the tatit)n is likely to be accorded to them ? Nirsa and Kapasara areas till 1st April, 1986 ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MJNI- (b) the period of pendency in each STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY dF case; and PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (c) whether there is any time period (a) As on 30.6.1986, there were 13,464 fixed for disposal of such cases; if so, Retail Outlets (Petrol/Diesel) in the details thereof? country. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (b) As on 306 1986, LPG agencies in VASANT SATHE): (a) Six cases of tbe country and in Karnataka were 2,822 employment to dependents of deceased and 169 respectively. employees in respect of Nirsa end Kapa- sara areas of Eastern Coalfields Limited (c) and (d).. The planned number of are pending with th~ company's Head- retail outlets/LPG Distributorships for tbe quarters. duration after the introduction of reserva- tion for SC/ST is in accordance with the (b) Period of pendency of the pending stipulated percentage. cases is as follows, : Sutpedsioa of Oil DriIIiDg Programme in Eastern Zoae 4 cases - 3 months 1518. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND 1 case - 7 months NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 1 case -10 months (8) whether the programme of drilling in the Bastern ZOfle inc1uding West Bengal remains susp~nded ; (c) Such cases arc expected to be finalised within 90 days of the receipt of (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and appJication from the nominee/legal heir of the deceased. Delays usually take place (c) whether it is proposed to activise on account of inadc quale or fauhy docu- the drilling programme again in the near mentation. Dispos.l of the above 6 cases future ? pending with the EeL Headquarters in 19 Written Answer, Slt~VANA 7,1908 (SAkA) Written Answers respect of Nirsa and Kapasara areas men- tioned above has been delayed for this 1 2 3 reason. Prices of L.P.G. 10. Bhubaneswar 62.19 1520 .. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD, 11. Gauhati 56.94 SINGH: With the Minister of PETRO· LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased 12. Imphal 59.46 to state: 13. I tan agar 56.11 (a) whether it is a fact that the L.P.G. 14. Agartala 62.92 is being so1d in U uar Pradesh, especiaUy in Jaunpur district at rates higher than 15. Amritsar 63.21 those prevailing in Delhi ; 16. Srinagar 65.65 (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and 17. Kanpur 61.56 (c) comparative selling rates of L.P.G. cylinders in various parts of the country? 18. Lucknow 63.72 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 19. Allahabad 62.40 DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND 20. Varanasi 64.24 MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS· lRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL 21. Meerut 63.51 GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) Yes, Sir. 22. Agra 5.8.55 (b) The difference is on account of 23. Bareilly 60.64 actual freight, local levies etc. that are added to the ex-storage prices and these 24. Chandigarh 65.06 vary from place to place. 25. Bangalore 61.60 (c) Comparative prices of L.P.G. in 26. Trivandrum 62.66 some major cities in the country are given in the Statement below. 27. Hyderabad 62.16 Stetement 28. Simla 66.85 LPG (Rs/I4.2 Kg. Cyl.) OemaDC] aDd production of passenger Cars, ValIS and Trucks 1. Bomby 56.15 1521. SHRI R.M. BHOYE: Will 2. Calcutta 63.20 the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to 3. Delhi 57.61 state : 4. Madras 57.24 (a) the policy adopted by Govern- ment for issuing licences for the manufac- 5. Ahmedabad 61.58 ture of passenger cars, vans and trucks; 6. Baroda 62.60 (b) the number of passenger cars, 7. Indore 63.17 vans and trucks manufactured during tbe Jast year ; 8. Bhopal 66.21 9. Patna 60.22 (c) whether it is a fact that the demand in this regards is increasing; and tt WrittM AJllWrl jUtY 20, ttg& (d) if so, the steps taken by Govern- Separate bendI (Jf Higb Courts for ment in tbis regard ? labour, matters THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1523. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: OEPAltTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): be pleased to state: (8) A new automobile policy is proposrd to be nolYed by the GovernmtDt. (a) whether Government have consi- dered the advantage of High Courts having (b) The production of vehieles duriA. a separate bench to look after labour the year] 985 was as under :- matters for speedy disposal of cases; and Nos. in '000' (b) if so, the outcome thereof? Passenger Cars LeVexc. Trucks THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE DAC & Trekkers (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) No, Sir. (b) Question does not arise. 102 33 46 Massi.e lo,estment Plan by Mis. ReHance locIustries Demand for all categories except com- mercial vehicle is increasing. IS24. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Wilt the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (c) aIkl (d). In the case of medium state: and heavy commercial vehicles demand is somewbat less than anticipated. Govern- (a) whether it is a fact that the ment has taken various steps such as R.eliance Industries has a plan for massive enhancement in the limit of credit availa- investment for opening up some neW hirh bility, lifting of ceiling on number of growth areas and also to expand the exis- national permits etc. to stimulate the ting plants; demand. (b) if se, the Statemeat SI.No. Name of the item .Capacity Location 1. Mono Ethylene Glycol 40,000 TPA Raigad In Mabarahstra 2. Linear Alkyl Benzene 50,000 TPA Patalganga in Maharashtra 3. Purified Terephtbalic Acid 75,000 TPA Raigad in (PTA) Maharashtra 4. Poly Vinyl Chloride 100,000 TPA Chorasi in Gujarat 5. High Density Polythelene SO,OOO TPA Chorasi in Gujarat 6. Polyester Industrial Yarn 2,000 TPA Raigad in Maharashtra Coal projects behind schedule 190 coal projects each costing Rs. S crores and more sanctioned since nationalisation 1525. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT : for implementation by the Coal India Li mited and Singareni Collieries Company SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: Limited, 48 projects have been completed and seven projects were not taken up. Of the remaining l~S projects presently under Will the Minister of BNERGY be implemention, 70 are on schedule and 65 pJeased to state: are delayed. (a) the total number of coal projects at present, undertaken by the Govern- ment; (c) These projects ate delayod due to various reasons, like non-availability of land, delay in supply of major mining (b) how many of these are being im- equipment and difficult geological condi- plemented according to sch~dule and how tions met during mining. many are running behind schedule ; (c) tbe reasons for delay; and (d) Revised Cost Estimates for some (d) the estimated loss being incurred of these projects have been approved by due to cost escalations? the Government. The anticipated revised cost of 17 projects is given below while for others these are being prepared by the THE MINISTER OF ENBRGY (SHRI Coal Companies and Central Mine Plan- VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Out of nina ad DealBA lDsUlmc. 95 iULY-29, J~K Company Name of PrtYject Sanctioned Present antici- cost pated cost (Rs. in crores) (Rs. in crores) qstern Coalfields 1. Khottadih Underground 9.07 80.00 Limited 2. J. K. Nagar 15.18 30.00 Underground 3. Parbelia Underground 12,51 15.00 Central Coalfields 4. Karkatta Opencast 29.60 35.00 Limited 5. K(dla Open cast 17.30 36.32 6. baiyo Underground 9.68 10.50 7. Ara Re-organisation/ 15.60 22.62 Underground 8. Karo Special 5.56 14.40 Underground 9. Sirka Opencast 13.11 41.77 10. Govindpur Underground 16.60 25.07 Northern Coalfields 11. Kakri Opencast 50.54 117.57 Limited' 12. Jhingurdah Opencast 24.87 63.12 South Eastern 13. Dbanpuri Opeocast 24.10 64.66 CoameJds Limited 14. Bibrampur Opencast 22.22 30.00 15. Bbatgaon Underground 10.41 29.86 16. Rajnagar Underground 10.58 25.52 17. Pa Ii Underground 11.65 25.00 Written Answer' SRAVANA 1, i908 (SAKA) Written Answers Supply of Kero5eae to Kerala 1 1526. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: " . July, 85 15,139 (a) the quntity of kerosene supplied August, 85 15,059 to Kerala per mon th ; September, 85 15,175 (b) whether Government of Kerala have requested for more kerosene supply; October, 85 14,977 aLd November, 85 17,168 (c) if so, the reaction of Union Government thereto? December, 85 16,839 THE OF IN THE MINISTER STATE Janu,'ry, 86 16,776 DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MIN1- STER OF STATE IN THE t\.1INISTRY February, 86 15,589 OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : March, 86 15,411 (a) Month.wise kt:rcsene supplll s to KcraJa Stale during 1985-1986 are given in the ----__ Statement below. Totd) 184,119 -~--- (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. To meet the increased demand of kerosene of different Energy from waste States/Union Territories including Kerala, allocation of kerosene for the Winter Block 1527. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will comprising the months Nov. 85, to Feb. 80, the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to the Summer Block comprising the months state: of March -·June, 1986 and the present Mon- soon Bleck comprising the mor.ths of July (a) wheth~r a new method of tapping to Octubcr, 1986, have been made after energy from W.lsto! has been discovered; allowing growth rates of 7i%, 7% and 7~~ respectively instead of the 5 Another R&D pilot plant, to extract has submi1tetl a clailtl for 1\5. 4~.04 crores landfill gas from a sanitary Iandftill and to upto to the period ending March, 1986 generate approx. 30 KVA power, bas been towards reitnbutRement of higher interest set t'p at the existing landfill site at Timar- paid by it on foreign borrowings. Govetn- pur. This site .!11ay have a potential to ment have not yet taken a decision there- generate about 4 MWe. on. Another R&D 'proposal being worked (cfand (d). There is no proposal at on is to produce gas from waste using present to further reorganise the ONGC. temperature in presence of a magnetic field. (e) The details are as follows : (c) The gas can also be used for cooking in place of LPG although it has a . 1985.86 1986·87 calorific value and has to be supplied (actuals) (target) through piped connections. The cost of production of power from the gas is relat- ed to many factors, inc1uding overa)] methane yielding life of the site. Suffi- Onland Driling 410.2 470.2 cient data in the use of landfill gas is yet meterage (000) not available to accurately estimate this cost. Indications hre that in scientifically Onland crude production 6.69 7.10 designed anti properly managed landfill (million tonnes) sites, the prject will be quite favourable as compared to conventional sources of energy for energy production Bbatnagar Committee report on revision of pay scales on Public Sector Grants to cover losses incurred by 0 N G.C. Undertakings OD foreign purchases and borrowings 1528. SHRI P. R. KUMARAMAN- 1529. SHRI H.M. PATEL: WiJl the GALAM: Will the Minister of PETRO- Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased state : to state : (a) whether the Bhatnagar Committee (a) whether the ONGC has approach- report on revision of pay-scales has been ed Government for grants to cover its implemented in any Public Sector Under- losses of about Rs. 200 crores on foreign takings ; and purchases and borrowings; (b) if so, details thereof? (b) if so, the details thereof and Government's decision in the matter ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) "bether Government have any DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- proposal to revamp the ONGC ; PRISES (PROF K K. 1eWAR Y): (a) and (b). Revised scales of pay and a])owances, (d) if so, the mllin features of the re" based on the reCommendations made by crganilatron scbeme ; and the Bhatnagar Committee, bave "en approved by the Government in respect of (e) to what extent drilling and pro· the following enterprises :- duction on tbe oDland areas will be im- proved? 1. Hindustan Cables Limited. THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2. Nagaland Pulp & Paper MiJJs. DItPARTMENT OF POWBR A'Nl> MINI .. STER OF STAT!. IN THB MINISTlty 3. ArtitlciaI Limps Mfg. Cor,.ft. of India OF PET.ROLEVM AND NATURAL GAS Limited. (IHRlMkTI SUSHILA ROBTAGI): (a) and (b). No, Sir. Heftver, ONGC 4 HioduttaD Latex Limited. lbt SRAVANA 7.1908 (SAKA) Written Answer8 S. Hindustan Photo Pilms Limited. (iii) Chairman/Managing Director or Managing Directors of the 6. Tea Trading Cqrpn. Ltd. various Regional Corporations which arc appointed agencies for Implementing the scheme 1. Hindustan Prefab ILtd. (Member) 8. Trade Fair Authority of India. ,.. (iv) Representatives from financial 9. Hindustan PJper Corpn. Ltd. age:)ci~s (whereas such agencies are appointed as disbursiol 10. Houl\ing & Urban Development agents) (Member) Corpn Ltd. (v) Industries Commissioner/DirOO* 11. Hindustan Newsprint Ltd. tor of Industries (Member Secretary) 12. Petrofits Cooperative Ltd. The SLC examine the merits of each case Bogus Entrepreneurs in Central Investment whether the industrial unit qualifies for . Subsidy Scheme grant of C~ntral Inv~stment Subsidy and determine the quantum of subsidy admissi- 1530. SHRIMA TI BASA V ARAJE- ble to an industrLll unit. The SLC has SW ARI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY overall authority over the various disburs- be pleased to state: ing agenci ~s with respo~nsibility to ensure that the sanction and disbursement of sub. (a) whether it is a fact that Union sidy are in confirmity with the rules. The Government have received reports from Member Secretary is fully responsible for State Governments that the liberal pro\1i- maintenance of proper accounts sions of the Centra) Investment Subsidy and records and for answering any audit ob- Scheme have resulted in coming up of jections tbat mJY arise. Overpayments if bogus entrepreneurs; any, are to be repaid by the Member Secretary, State Level Committee. . (b) whether Union Government have directed Stale Governments to set up SLC's have also been authorised to monItoring ceJls and district level com· delegate powers, if they so decide, to the mittees for the Central Investment Subsidy District Level Committees (LDe's) to Scheme; sanction and disburse subsidy to SSI units (c) how do these cells and committee upto a maximum of Rs. 2.25 lakhs per help Government in identifying bogus unit. entrepreneurs; and The composition of the DLC's is as (d) the details thereof 1 follows :- THE tvlINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1. Col1edorjDy. Commissioner! DEPARTMENT OF INDUST.RJAL DEVE- Co1leC'tor-cum. Dy. Commissioner LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Industries (Chairman). (a) No, Sir. 2. District Development Officer I (b) to (d). State Level Committees Dy. Director of Industries/Regio- (SLC's) with the following composition nal Dy. Director of Industries have been set up in each state :- (Member) (i) Secretary to Government, 3. Deputy Secretary, Finance Depart- Industries Department ment or his nominee (Member). (Chairman) 4. Representatives of the State (ji) Secrttary to 6Ci)vernment, Financial Instituttions/State IAvest- Finance DepartmeDt (M.mbea:) ment Corporations whica ar. 103 Written Awers JULY 29, 1986 Written Answers appoio'ted as disbursing agencies . (c) whether there is any proposal to (Member). fix the m.1ximum income limit of an individual, company, firm, undertaking S. Gen\.!ral Manager, District Indus- etc. to check concentration of economic ries Centre (Member Secretary), power so as to afford selfemployment opportunities to others including educated Th..:- SLC's however, been made res- unemployed youths; ponsible for the correctness, regularity and propriety cf the decisions taken by the (d) whether the selling arrangements DLe and the claim for reimbursement of are satisfactory and in the best public subsidY disbursed by the District Level interest; and Committee are preferred by Member Secretary of SLe's after due scrutiny. (e) if not, how Government propose to ensure that the products are easily and This procedure has been adopted to freely available in all parts of Delhi at eliminate the bogus entrepreneures from reasonable and competitive prices and to claiming Central Investment Subsidy. ensure that their supplies are not restricted unreasonably to the detriment of the Mananthody Hyde) Project common cause of the consum~-'rs '! 1531. SHRI MULLAPPLLY RAMA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL ENERGY be pleased to state: DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHA- LAM) : (a) and (b). The information is (a) whether Union Government have not available. Only such agreements as received any request from the Government incorporate restrictive trade practices of Kerala for assistance for the Manant.. clauses as specified under section 33(1) of body Hydel Project in Wynad district; and the MRTP Act are required to be registe- red with the Director General of Investi- (b) if so, the quantum of funds to gation & Registration. be provided and estimated period within which the project is likely to be comple- (c) No such umendmcnt of the ted? MRTP Act is undtr consideration. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) and (e). The MRTP Act provides DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND for institution of enquiries by the MRTP , MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Commission into the restrictive, unfair TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL and monopolistic trade prdctict!s and GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHI LA ROHTAGI) : remedial action. (a) No, Sir. (Translation] (b) Does not arise. Escalation of costs or power projects SelJing arrangements in Delbi by MRTP Undertakings "1533. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOOW ALIA: Will the Minist,r of 1532. SHRJ HAFIZ MOHO. ENERGY be pledsed to state : SIDDIQ : Will the Minister of INDUS- TR Y be pleased to state: (a) whether Government are concer- ned at the escab t ion of cos t.; of power "(a) the Dumber of MRTP underta- projects; kings in the country having selling arran- gements in Delhi; (b) if so, the facta in this regard; and (b) what are the products manufac- (c) the steps beiDg taken to check tured by tbeae und~takinp; tho cost cscalation ? lOS Written An,wer, SRAVANA 7,1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 106 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to non-supp]y of cement by the factories, DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND as per suppJy orders. MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (b) and (c) With a view to meet the GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): requirements of irrigation projects, (a) to (c). The (scalation in costs of supplies to Bihar have had to be planned power projects is due to a number of on factories situated in Madhya Pradesh. factors such as delays in their comple- Special instructions have also b:!eD issued tiOD. paucity of funds, non-sequential to the cement factories to rush cement to supply of equipment') and/or dd lY in Bihar The State Govt has been advised supplies, changes in the scope of the to lift cem'!nt by rO'ld, when ~vt?r w3gons projects, escalation in pricc~, Increase in are in short supply. It is expected that the ccst of equipment/material, dC. • with the improvement in wagon supply position, avaiIdbiJity of cement to Bihar In order to avoid cost escalations due wi)) be increased. Availability of cement to delays in completion of proj ccts, for the important irrigation projects like various measures have been t.lken whi,-h Suberneka, Western Kosi Canal and include extensive monitoring of the North Koel Dam is being closely moni- projects, expediting supply of equipments tored. and materials, visit to project sites by the engineers of CEA _to identify and over- Running of Private Postal AgeDcies come the constraints. The need for effective project management i~ also being 1535. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR : constantJy emphasised on the State autho- Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS rities. be pleased to state: Supply of Cfment to Irrigation Projects (a) whether Government have given in Bihar their approval for running private postal agencies; 1534 SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD SINGH : Wi)] the Minister of INDUSTR Y (b) if so, the parnes of individuals be pleased to state: and institutions from whom applications were received for this purpose a longwith (a) whether all the irrigation projects , the dates of their receipt; in Bihar are lyirg incomplete due to non- supply of cement to thtfe projects in time; (c) whether Government thpmseIv.:s had invited applications in this connection; (b) if so, the action taken b)1 Govern- and ment in this regard; and (d) the grounds on which approval (c) if not, the I easons therefor "/ has been given to run private postal agen .. des and the areas of their operation? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M ARUNA- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS CHALAM) : (a) Due to closure of the (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Th~ two cement factories ~ituatcd in Bihar viz. Department of Posts has introduced a Sone Valley Portlard Cement Co Ltd .. scheme of licensed post~1 :_lgents under Japla and Rohta" Indut;1 ries Ltd., the local which in selected localities agents 3re availability of I~ vy cem,:nt i:l Rihar has appointed on \"ommis~ion b.lsis to perfurm been consider.1 bJy reduced. Further. the limitej postal transactions such as sale of short-fa 11 in wagon availability for postage stamps and stationery and regis- movement of cement from factories in tration and despatch of po'lral articles to Mr.dhya Pradl!sh has also resulted in short post office. supply in the past. Consequ:ntly. Govt. of Bihar h~ne rcp,'rted that the irrigation (b) and (c). No, Sir. Government projects in Bihar have been affected due have not invited applications in this regard. l07 WrilttJl AlI,'HW' Tbe scheme envi~ge$ that Divilional IllOAthi aft~r the dat, of placemont of Superintendents/Senior Superinten@llta of order for the main plant and equipment. Post Offices will asses the requirementsand The remaining two units will be commis- ~1l for applications.. There are over 438 sioned thoroaftor at interval of two months postal divisions in the country and a num- each. The Iteam turbine QQit is scheduled ber of applications would have been for cOD1missio~ing 36 months after the rq;eived in ea£:b division, siDce tbe time placement of the order. of introdlJction of the ~beme in August, 1985. Qnly the number of licences actually IQdustriallmbalance isaucq is reported to the Departplcnt. The 1537. SHRI BANWARI LAL total number of licences granted and PUROHIT: reported so far is about 675. The names of individuals/institutions granted licences SHRI LAKSHMAN for post;d agencies Circle wise is being MALLICK: collo;~d and will be laid on the Table of the House. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be (d) The scheme is primarily intended pleased to state : to supplement the regular department'll network and to provide basic postal facili- (a) whetber Government are aware ties in areas/localities wbere there isa need/ tbat the industrial imbalance is growing in demand for such facilities and where there the country ; . is no justification for opening regular post aftices. The licensed postal agents are (b) if so, the steps Government pro- required to set up a proper postal counter pose to take to remove the same ; at an approved location and conduct postal transaction from there. (c) whether the Somaiya Committee set up for the said task has submitted its [English] report to Government ; and Gas-based Power Plaat io Kuta (d) if so. the findipgs of the Committee . and the steps taken by Governmen t to 1536. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI implement the same? SHAKTA WAT: Will thc Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ENERG Y be pleased to state DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- LOPMENT (SHRI M ARUNACHALAM): (a) whether the amount allotted for (a) and (b). One of the prilTJQry objectives the sett ing up of gas-based power plant of Government's industrial policy is to in Kota is sufficient for the setting up of remove regional imb:lJances. To achiove the t ; plan and this a number of incentives and conces- sions have been announced. These mea- (b) if so, the time by which th~ plant sures have attracted entrepreneurs to set up will be completed? their units in industriaJJy backward areas as is clear from the following data: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND Year Total Backward Percentage MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Area TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): Letters 0/ intent (a) No constrant of funds is foreseen for the ps-baKd power project proposed to 1983 lOSS 664 62.93 be set up by the National Thermal Power 1934 1064 627 5S.92 Corporation at Anta, in Keta District of ]457 Raj~ sthr.n. 1985 774. 53.12 1986 486 269 55 34 (b) The first gas turbine unit of the (JaD-May. project is "heduled for commissionln, 24 l09 . SRAVANA 7, lq (SAtcA) Wrllum Answerl Ul) Indu$trlal Licences Name of the Company/ Cumulative Division Joss/profit upto 1983 1075 317 29.48 31.3.1985 1984 90S 323 3S.69 CIL/NEC (North Eastern (-) 10S.81 Coalfields) 1985 98S 427 43.35 EeL (Eastern Coalfields (-) 649.61 1986 ,. 290 123 42.41 Ltd.) Jan-May BCCL (Bharat Coking (-) 62&.79 Coal Ltd.) CCL (Central Coalfields (+) 171.38 (c) The Inter-Ministerial Committee is Ltd.) to submit its report by the end of this year. weL (Western Coalfields (-) 5.49 Ltd.) (d) Does not arise. CEMPDIL (Central Mine (+) 1.46 Planning &: Design Institute Ltd.) Losses incurred by coal companies ~ _____ Total (-) 1215.86 1538. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURl Y: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Kbadi aod Village Industries (a) the cumulative loss~s incurred by 1539. DR. PHULRENU GUHA the coal companies as on March 31,1986; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be and pleased to state : (b) what are the losses of Bharat (a) the production target of the khadi Coking Coal Ltd. ar.d other subsidiaries and village industries during seventh plan of Coal India Ltd. ? period; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (b) the number of persons likely to _ V ASANT SATHE) : (a) Accounts of be employed under khadi and village Coal India Limited and its subsidiaries for industries schemes in the seventh Plan the yea.r 1985-86 have not yet been finalis- period; and ed. The cumulative loss of Coal India Limited and its subsidiaries up to 31.3.1985 was Rs. 1215.86 crores. (c) the items of pr9duction and num- ber of persons who will be employed in khadi and village industries in West (b) The cumulative loss/profit Coal of Bengal? India Limited and it~ subsidiaries as on 31.3.1985 is jndic~ted below :- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- loss (-) == LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) The pr('duction target of the kbadi <.+) = profit and village Industries during Seventh Five Year Plan has been fixed at Rs. 288 crores (B.s. i~ elores) apd Rs. 1282 crOTes respectively. 111 Written Answers JULY 29. 198~ '112 ~ (b) 20.00 lakh persons under Khadi states other than KeraJa are being set up and 30 00 lakh persons under Vi lIage at Arisekere - (Karnataka), Thanjavur Industries programmes are likely to be (Tamil Nadu), R 1540 SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHO- THAMAN : \\'ill the Minister of INDUS- on and Natural Gas struck TRY be pleas('d to state the steps taken by Government for the development of coir industry in the coun try ? 1541. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA TIL : Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be plc;:std TilE MlN~STER OF STATE IN THE to state : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- CHALA M) : The Coir BO:lrd, a statutory (a) whether it is a fact that oil and w~ ~et body s up by the Government as far natural gas have been struck at different hack as' 1954 \\ itb specific objective and places in the country recently; functions to develop and promote the coir industry in the country. These functions include undertaking, assisting or encour- (b) if so, the details thereof, giving aging scientific, technoJogical and economic the names of places and the quantity of oil re~e~rch9 promoting exports of coir yarn and natural gas expected to be obtained aLd COiT products, fixing grade standards, therefrom; and improving marketit g of coir fibre in India and els( wt:ere and preventing unfair compe- tition, rromoting cooperative organisation among the coir producers and- ensuring (c) the financial implications involved? remune! ative returns to workers and pro- ducers. Facilities for resc:irch and deve- lopment to improve the quality of coir, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE fibre and products, productivity and train- DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND ing facilities hnve been sa<;ngtbened at the MJNISTER OF STATE IN THE MiNIS- Central Coir Research Ir,stitutc, Kalavoor TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL and R{gional Coit Trairdcg C:itJd Dt.vtlop- GAS (SHRI~fATI SUSHJLA ROHT -\GI) : ment CI..Dlrcs particuh rly for lrainjn~ cf (a) to (c). 011 and gas have been di cov!r- coir workers and other functionaries for ed in the foHowjng places/structur.:'i in the development of brown fibre sector in tbe country since lst January, 1986 :- 113 M1ritten J.l~er' SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 114 Place/Structure Nature of find Daily rate during initial testing. Tatipaka Gas 142000 cubic meters (A ndhra Pradesh) through 14/64. choke R-71 Oil 380 barrels (Ratna in Western Gas 3900 cubic ~ I" J;hoke offshore) meters J CD(Tapti) in Western Oil 3400 barrels} I" choice Offshore Gas 238500 cubic } I" choke meters The production potential as also rev- THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE enue/financial implications will be known DEPARTMENT . OF INDUSTRIAL only after the structures are delineated DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- and techno-economic feasibilities analysed. CHALA~1) : (a) A simplified procedure was notified on 26-5-]985 under tbe MRTP Expansion of Industries Rules, 1970 to deal with the expansion proposals submitted to the Government 1542. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS fOr achieving minimum economic scales of MUNSI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY operation in 65 industries. be pleased to sta te : (b) Details of the proposals submitted (a) whether 65 major industries were b} the MRTP companies which have been allowed to expand their business after rel- approved by the Go\ernment up to 18-7-86 axing the MRTP provisions; and are gi\cn in the Statement below. (b) the details of these units and their expansion programme? tiS Written dnIwr, 1UL Y 29, 1986 \C \C \0 \C 00 00 00 CCI 0\ 0\ 0\.... 0\...... «S I I I I o -;;a. \0 r-- - - I o 0 -d- "..,. "00.. o ~ .....to Co f'\ Q~ - - III fIl. o zo Z 8 § ~ ~ 00 00 III rn III U C'I.l U U c: III C C'I.l U U C c C C C o o C C'I.l. o .. C C o ~ Z .9 o o E-t o Z E-c o o .~ E-c ~ \0 o - II) o 8< o u o g ~ \0 8 ("t') _>- 8 § N o 00 cu.!:: 0" 00 - :l U 0\ 0\ M- C as ~ cCo N" < ~ o I) ... I) :s -.. ..u til c:! fI) :::a u c .i: o E.. ... QJ C ._-!XI U) QJ -.. c ... u_u as >- rii~ tr.l- -c . -0 ~ "0• "C - ... ..J ~ ...J ..J - c • - as "0• ~ >- as U ~ s:: a. .. c as Os .9 ~ C'J 0. C. "0 a0 .., . :( III ..CI "C u E E u ... °C 0 0 .:J u ~ a'd fI) u U U U .c 'tJ .! ~ ::J . c -'" "C .i: '0 U "'0 ~ ~ ~ .... cd C u c ..oJ -0 ...... - ... r.n ~ Qj ~ 0 ._0 u u E - '" U ~- "0 .! -U ~ ~ E U .;: c .c 0 0 ..Q- u u 0 = 0 Z ..2 "C- .! >- 0 Cl ~ .c 0 U (5 u u e -~ ~ fIJ U :2 ~ ~ < 0 • . = r;;z ...... N f') .. .n ~ r-: 00 117 Written AnNer, SRAVANA 7, Ito8 (SAKA) , H8 Shiftiol of Storale Tank from Permits fer sale of Kerosene oil by Cochin City petrol dealers 1544. DR. V. ¥ENKA TESH: Will 1543. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL 9AS be pleased to state: NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) the number of petrol dealers who (a) whether there is any proposal to ha ve been given permits to sell kerosene remove the [huge storage tanks of Bharat oil during the last two years, State-wise ; Petroleum Corporation and Indian Corpo- and ration in Cochin city to a far off' place; (b) whether this arrangement is pro- posed to be extended to all the petro) (b) jf so, when these storage tanks dealers in backward regions of Karna- will be transferred; taka? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether Government are aWare DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI- that these storage tanks are a threat STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY to the Cochin city ; and OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (d) if so, the effective safety measures (a) No new Retail Ouilet (Petrol/Diesel) taken? dealer has been given permission by the oil marketing companies to sell Kerosene THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Oil during the Jast two years in the DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINIS- country. TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (b) There is no proposal to allow tbe (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): sale of kerosene oil through Retail Outlets (a) No, Sir. (Petrol/Diesel) in the coun try incJuding backward regions of Knrnataka. (b) Does not arisr. [Trans/ation] (c) and (d). The storage tanks meet Increase in production ia I.D.... L. all the lafety and other statutory require- ments, including safety distances stipu)a- 1545. SHRI MADAN PANDEY: ted by the Chief Controller of Explbsives, SHRl C.K. KUPPUSWAMY. : and bence pose no undue threat to the safety of Cochin. City. The safety measures WiJI the Minister of INDUSTRY be taken include : pleased to state : 1. Preventive maintenance to ensure (a) whether it is a fact that produc- healthy state of facilities. tion in Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited. a GQvernment of India undertak- ing, is declining continuously ; 2. Regular training of operating staff .. to ensure observance of safety prac- (b) if so, whether Government pro- tices. pose to take any steps to increase produc- tion in this undertaking; 3. Intensive supervision of oper- (c) jf so, tbe details thereof and if ations. not, ttc reasons therefor; and 4. Periodic operation/safety audits (d) whether Governmcut wiU lay OD and fire driUs. the Table of the House a statement show. 11' Written i'fnswe,s JULy 29.198& Written Answers 120 ing figure or production in this undertak- faeturers are in a position to meet efi'ee" ing during the last five years? tively any increased demand of Tractors in the country. Most of the agricultural . THE MIN1STER OF STATE IN THE implements are reserved for sman scale DEPARTMENT OF'INDUSTRIAL DEVE- industry and the demand is being met LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): through indigenous availability. (a) and (d). Value of production of Indian - Drugs & Pharmaceuticals Limited (IDPL) . (b) During the year 1985-86 the pro- including production on" loan licence duction of tractors in the various ranges during the last five years was as under : are as follows : 1. Upto 25 HP 20,292 Nos. Rs. in crores 2. 30 HP 42 9 529 Nos. 3 40-47 HP 10,088 Nos. 1981-82 105.11 4. 48 and above HP 2,641 Nos. 1982-83 117.79 1983 .. 84 121.55 (c) The latest population of Tractors in the country is not available. However, 1984-85 121.74 according to Live Stock Census, the popu- lation of Tractors as in the year ) 977 Was 1985-86 121.18 (prov.) 2,70,000.- (d) The existing manufacturers have (b) and (c). Do not arise. requisite technology and capability to manufacture Tractors in any range a~ per the customer~' requirements. Production of tractors and tractor \Vaste in purchase of rig etc. auxiliaries byONGC 1546. KUMARI D.K. THARADEVI: 1547. SHRI N. VENKATA RAT- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleas- NAM: Will the Minister of PETRO- ed to siate : LEUM AND NATUR/\L GAS be pleased to state: (a) whetber there is a proposal to increase procuction of tractors and tractor (a) whether it is a fact that there'is a auxiliaries ; lot of waste in purchase of open off shore rigs, coated pipes etc. by Oil and Natural (b) their annual production, category- Gas Commission during Jast three years ; wise; (b) if so, whether any investigation (c) the tota] number of tractors in has been made in this regard; and tbe country today ; and (c) the action taken arainst persons (d) whether there is any effort to responsible for the S4:me ? produce sman tractors to make it viable fc r small farmers ? THE MINISTER OF STATE "IN THE DEPARTMENT OF. PO\VER AND T.HE MINISTER OF STATE IN .THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) There is no proposal to increase (a) No, Sir. production of Tractors through licensing of new units. However, tbe existing manu- (b) and (e). Do Dot arise. t2} Written Answer. SRA \'ANA " 1908 (SAKA) Written Answerl t22 DisoontiDuaD~e of Quick Mail Ser,ice each in twenty States all over the country. The proposal has not yet been sanctioned. 1548. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- JEE: Wi1l the Minister of COMMU- [ Translation] NICATIONS bt: pleastd to state : Telephone facllity iD Post Offices (a) whether Quick Mail Service in Bihar has been discontinued; (QMS) 1551. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: Wj)l the Minister of COMMUN'ICATIONS (b) if so, the uetails and reasons be pleased to state: therefor ; and (a) the number of post offices with (c) the steps being taken to ensure telephone facility in Bihar and of those that an ordinary letter reaches the addres- where teJephone connections are yet to be see in any part of the country within three provided and the difficulties in this or four days ? regard; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) whether Government propose to MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS take any effective steps in order to provide (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA): (a) telephone connections in all the post No, Sir. offices of Bihar during the current financial year; and (b) Does not arise. (c) tbe district-wise expenditure likely (c) Constant Monitoring of mails is to be incurred on providing telephone done and mans arrangements are revised connections to post offices in Bihar? wherever necessary to ensure speedy THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE transmission of mails. While every effort MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS is made to speed up mails, for some re- (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) 3S71 mote areas in the country it is not feasible Post Offices are having telephone facility to reduce the transit time to three or four and 7299 Post Offices are not provided with days. this facility. 'Special area programme' in districts (b) There is no. plan to provide tele- by K.V.I.C. phone facility in all the Post Offices in Bihar. 1550. SHRI N. DENNIS : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (c) There is a plan to open 100 Lons state: Distance Public Telephone connections in Bihar during the current financial year. (a) whether it is a fact that the Generally these are provided in Post Khadi and Village Indllstries Commission Offices. The estimated expenditure on has decided to take up a 'special area pro- per LDPT on an average is Rupee one gramme' in one selected district in each lakh. State al1 over the country; and (English) (b) if so, the details regarding the Improvement in telephone senices programme alongwith the amount sanction- ed in this regard ? 1552. DR. G.S. RAIHANS : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI PARASRAM DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- BHARDWAJ: LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Will the Minister of COMMUNICA. (a1 and (b). Government has received a TIONS be pleased to state: proposal from Khadi and Village Indus- tries Commission to take up a 'special (a> whether he has recently 'beld area prolramme' in one selected district meetings with the General t.1anag«s of iN metro and major districts in the capital fore dig' service so as to keep and stressed the need to improve the tele- lias ion with other agencies who phone services in the coun try ; and are engaged in digging. (b) tbe steps Government propose to 9 Extensive partrolJing of cable ·take to improve the telephone services routes to detect any digging throughout the country? operations and to take precau. tionary measures to a void damage THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE to cables. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, 10. Provision of high grade junction Sir. circuits on Pulse Code Modula- tion, Coaxial and Microwave (b) Following steps are being taken to media to provide better quality impr{)ve the telephone services throughout and more dependable service. the country : J I. Rehabilitation of subscribers' fit- 1. Introduction of sophisticated elec- tings and the D.P. boxes to mini- tronic telephone exchanges to mise faults on the line. avoid problems inherent with electro-magnetic switching equip- ment used hitherto. 12. Replacemen t of overhead wires by insulated drop wires to avoid 2. Rep)acem~nt of life expired equip- faults due to kite strings, bird nests ment. etc. which lead to contact or Jow insulation faults. 3. Special testing of exchange equip- . ment particularly inter-excbange 13. Use of improved telephone instru- jun~tjons is beiDg undertaken to ments. improve inter-exchange working. 14. Replacement of aluminium wires 4. Working of air-conditioning plants in the fitting at the subscribers in various exchanges is being premises by copper wires to regularly monitored to ensure avoid break faults. proper working. 15. Computerisation of cable records s. Laying of new junction, primary and fault repair services to bring and secondary cabJes inducts down duration of faults. to protect them from external d3mages. 16. Computerisation of Directory As- sistance, (197) service and re- 6 PreSlurisation of primary, secon- cords. dary and junction cables to mini- mise cable break-down faults. 17 Computerisation operated assisted (180) trunk services. 7 Use of jel1y-fine~ cables in tbe ciistrib1ltiOil network to prevent entry of water in the cables to 18 Monitoring of tbe auto-manual avoid fault•. service and trunk service is being carried out as to ensure 8. Cable trenches ,arc being flooded prompt response on tbese ser- before being closed ~o as to vices. 4etect any damage during trench- ina or I_ymg of tho cables. The 19. Public grievance cells have opened . public is being asked to inform at OMs headquarten and AMs Telephone Department before office to provide siqle outlet thC1 tate of dfaain. OD 'dial be· attention Ie the subscriber•• SRAVANA" t~ (SAKA) 20. Formation of Inter Utility coordi- August, 1986, and the buildiDi for .the nation' boards involving various same was also completed upto August, S'trvice agencies using under- 1986 ; ground space to avoid damage to cables. (b) if so, the progress in thi, regard uptill now ; and Telephone system in Bhopal (c) the time by which the exchange 1553. SHRI PRATAP BHANU is likely to be commissioned? . SHARMA: Will the Minister of COM- MUNICA 1 IONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER. OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (a) whether the telephone system of (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No, Bhopal city in Madhya Pradesh is very Sir. defective and obsolete; (b) and (c). Building is expected to (b) the number of complaints receiv- be ready by December, 19B6. The ed from the subscribers the montb during equipment is expected to be shipped by of June, 1986 ; • December, 1986. Confirmation from the Overseas supplier is awaited. (c) the steps Government are taking to improve the system; and Home delivery or LPG cylinilers (d) whether any member of the 1555. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: staff has been found negligent and if so, action taken in the matter? SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA NARASIMHARAJA THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE WADIYAR: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Sir. However, the telephone system of AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to Bhopal is not obsolete state: (b) Number of complaints received (a) whether the Indian Oil Corpora- ftom the subscribers during the month of tion and Bharat Petroleum Corporation June, 1986 are. 8218. have finally decided to give up the pro- posal for ending home delivery of cookina (c) Officers from Directorate visited gas cylinders; Bhopal. Deficiencies were identified, re- medial measures have been taken to speed (b) whether the demand of dealers up upgradation of the system by deputing for increase in their commission bas been additional technician and Assistant Engi- conceded ; and neer. (c) whether enough precautions have (d) The matter is being investigated been taken in the system of home delivery and the action wiH be initiated against to ensure that half-filled cylinders are not the delinquents. supplied to the consumers ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Commissioning of electronic automatic DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND telephone exchange at Barmer (Rajasthan) MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL 1554. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROH- JAIN: Will the Minister of COMMU- TAGI): (a)" No, Sir. NICATIONS be pleased to state: (b) The matter is under tbe consi- (a) whether an. Electronic Automatic deration of the Government. TeJepbone Excbange was scbeduled to be commissioned at Barmer (Rajastbatl) in (c) Yes t Sir. 127 Written AJUWer, JULY D. 1~6 128 SettiDg ap of ceDtre-cum eDeru park for Proposal by Hiadastan Paper Corporation research .ad deYelopmeat of IOlar cookers to set up a Dewsprint paper MiD 1556. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: Will 1558. SHRI RAM DHAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: state : (a) whether Delhi Energy Develop- (a) whether it is a fact that a pro- ment Agency (DEDA) bas set up a centre: posal py Hindustan Paper Corporation cum-energy park in a village for research to set up a newsprint papet mill has been and development of Solar cookers with rejected ; and Central assistance and if so, details there- of; and (b) if so, the reasons thereof? (b) whether similar units have been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE set up all over the country, specially in DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- hill areas to reduce denudation of forests? PRISES (PROF. K. K. TEWARY): (a) and (b). A project report for the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI s~tjng up 0 f a newsprint plant for annual VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. capacity of 80,000 tonnes, based primarily on bagasse was submitted by Hindustan (b) Integrated energy systems in Paper Corporation. After consideration villages (Urjagrams) are proposed to be of various factors, Government have set up'in different parts of the country in decided that the project should be bandIed States, including hilly areas. by National Newsprint and Paper Mills all Limited and the Company should prepare a fresh Detailed Project Report for Oil drilliag Ia Himachal Pradesh consideration of Government. 15S7. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Setting Dp of industry in public/private Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND sector in Etab district in U.P. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 1559. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ (c) Yes, Sir. (b) Doe. not arise. 129 Written Answe,., SkAVANA 1. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answer! 1:40 Expansion of Instrumentatiou Limited (b) and (c). LPG distributors are U Di tat Pa)gha t in Kerala under instructions, from the oiJ companies not to pressurise the cu,tomers to pur- 1560. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHA- chase LPG stoves from the distributor VAN: WHI the Minister of INDUSTRY concerned at the time of release of new be pleased to state: gas connections. since customers have the liberty to pur chase the stoves from (a) whether Government propose to any where as tong as these carry lSI carry out major expansion of the Instru- certification mark. It is also incumbent mentation Limited; on LPG distributors to arrange home delivery of LPG refills unless the customer (b) If so, whether Government of himself opts for cash and carry arrange- Kerala have requested that the Instru- ment. Punitive action under the LPG mentation Unit at Palghat be expanded; Marketing Discipline Guidelines is taken and by Oil companies against erring distri- butors. (c) if so, the reaction of Government thereto? Laying of trausmission line between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu by National THE MINIS fER OF STATE IN THfi Thermal Power Corporation DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): (a) 1562. SHRIMATI N.P. JHANSI No major expansion of Instrumentation LAKSHMI : WiIJ the Minister of Limited is noW under consideration. ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether National Thermal Power' (b) No such request has been Corporation proposes to lay a transmi- received. ssion line connecting any power stations! Sub-Stations of Andhra Pradesh and (c) Does not arise. Kerala so as to make possible easy flow LPG supply in Kerala of power with respect to vo)tage profile stability and check transmission losses 1561. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will between the two States as agreed to the Minister of PETROLEUM AND recently between Karnataka and Tamil NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Nadu ; and (a) the number of places in Kerala (b) The grounds for neglecting Kerala's linking with other neighbouring where facility of LPG is available at present; States than only Tamil Nadu for getting its deficit power supply ful611ed from other (b) whether it is a fact that some of neighbours? the agents compel the consumers to buy gas stoves from them before providing gas THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE connections and also refuse to supply LPG DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND cylinders at home, causing difficulties to MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- the consumers; and TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAI,. GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (c) the action proposed to oe taken (a) In the Southern Region, the 400 in this regard? K V centra I sector transmission system assochted with Ramagundam Thermal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Station of NTPC and Neyveli Lignite DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND Station of NLC has been planned on a MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- regional basis This system would be TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL extended to Kera)a by con~tructing GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): Udumalpet (Tamil Nadu)-Tricbur North (a) As on 1.6.86 103 LPG distributorship (Kerala) 400. KV rloubJe circuit line. are marketing. LPG in 67 markets in This system will meet the requirements of Kerala. power Bow, voltage profile, stability ~t'. 131 JuLY 29, 191& W,ltten Answer; 1~2 (b) In addition to Tamil Nadu, utilised for producing electricity and Keral. is connected to Karnataka through cooking gas; the 220 ICV Iduk~i (Kerala)-Mysore (Karnataka) inter-:State transmission line . (b) if so, whether Government propose for exchange of power between the two to get this new technology examined and States. tested thoroughly by one of the national laboratories fo see that the scheme can Supply of Power from Vindbyacbal become commerciallY viable and dependable Valley Corporation's Power source of electric power and cooking gas; Station to Gujar. t (c) whether Government al§o propose to go into the cost of production of 1563. SHRI RANJIT SINGH electric power and cooking gas by this new GAEKWAD: Will the Minister of technology vis-a-vis the cost of production; ENERGY be pleased to state: and whether Gujarat is likely to get about 200 MW of power from the Vindhya- (d) whether the rates to be charged chal Valley Corporation's power station; from the consumers for each unit of electric power and cooking gas produced (b) whether the Corporation and the with this new technology would be with in Gujarat Electricity Board have agreed in the reach of rural population, especially this behalf; and the agriculturists? (c) if so, when the proposed supply THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI of power is likely to flow from Vidarbha V ASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. to Gujarat ? (b) and (c). Department of Non- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Conventional Energy Sources (DNES) is DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND considering a proposal for installation of MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- a Research & Development Plant based TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL on the Synpyrol Technology at its solar GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI : Energy Centre, GwalpahJri. This Techno- (a) to (c). Government have not set up logy needs to be tested for assessing its any corporation called the Vindhyachal techno-economic viability. A team of Power Corporation. Gujarat will have a scientists will be engaged for research and sbare in the power generated at the development work to investigate the Vindhyachal Super Thermal Power Project mechanisms and also to work out the cost which is being implemented by the National of production of electric power and Thermal Power Corporation in the Central cooking gas. sector. Power from the Vindhyachal STPP has not yet been allocated to the states (d) Until the above-mentioned studies concerned. The first unit of the project are over, it is premature to comment on is expected to be commissioned in 1987-88. this aspect. "SJIIOPJI'o1" Teduaology for Produelion Schemes lor Improving Productivity olGa. ia the Public Sector U olts 1564. SHItI Y. S. MAHAJAN: Will IS6S. SHRI J. RAMA RAI : Will the tbe Minister of ENERGY. be pleased to Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to 'state : state : (a) wbether Government are aware (a) the steps Government propose of the new technology called "SynpyrolU to take for improving productivity in developed by an Indian scientist by which public sector units by offering incentives to wasto materials like paper. lea¥.. , dried the employee. like financial motivatioD, stubs, alfieultural ADd city waite can be impovement iD career etc; SUVAMA,1, 19Ot(SAkA) W,ltten AnlWel'l tM (b) the names of public undertaking 10. Cement Corpn. of India Ltd. which have introduced individual and gro- • up incentives schemes and what is their J 1. Central Electronics Ltd. contribution to those undertakings; 12 Coal India Ltd. (c) whether there are any other similar schemes in practice; and 13. Cochin Refineries Ltd. 14. FertilIzer Corpn. of India Ltd (d) if so, the details thereof? I'. FertiJizer & Chemicals Travancore THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Ltd. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- PRISES (PROF. K. K. TEWARY) : 16. Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (a) to (d). Government from ttme to time has been reviewing the performances 17. Hindustan Antibiotics Ltd. of the individual public enterprises and have made suggestions for improving their 18. Hindustan Cables Ltd. productivity and performances. among 19. HlOdustan FertiHzer Corpn. Ltd. other thmg;;, through introduction of shemes of financial motivation, CJreer 20. Hindustan Insecticides Ltd. advancement and non-monetary incentives for good performance. The need for and 21. Hindustan Organic Chemicals Ltd. the timing for the introduction of suc~ incentive schemes are essential1y factors, 22. Hindustan Petroleum Corpn. Ltd which are to be decided by the Manage- ment of the concerned individual enter- 23. Hlndustan Teleprinters Ltd. prises. Names of the public enterprises, which have introduced incentive schemes, 24. Hiadustan Zinc Ltd. based on available information, are 25. HMT Ltd. indicated in the St,lfement given below. Government has commissioned a study 26. IBP Co. Ltd. through the National Productivity CounCil to determme effectiveness of these incentive 27. Electronics Cbrpn. of India Ltd. schemes. 28. Indian Airlines Statement 29. Indian Drugs & Phar. Ltd. List 0/ Public Enterprises where Incentive 30. Indian Oil Corpn. Ltd. Schemes are Operating 31. Indian Petrochemicals Corpn. Ltd. 1. Air India 32. Indian Telephone Industries Ltd. 2. Bharat Earth Movers Ltd. 33. Instrumentation Ltd. 3 Bharat Electronics Ltd. 34. Lubrizol India Ltd. 4. Bharat Gold Mines Ltd. 35. Madras Fertilizers Ltd. 5. Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd. 36. Madras Refineries 6. Bharat Aluminium Co. Ltd. 37. Mazagon Dock Ltd. 7. Bharat Petroleum Corpn. Ltd. 38. Modern Food Industries 0) Ltd. 8. Bongaigaon Refinery & Petro- 39. National Fertilizers Ltd. Chemicals Ltd. 40. National Hydro-electric Pow.. 9. Braithwaite & Co. Ltd. Corpn. Written Answers JUL V 29. 1986 136 ~ 41. National MineraJ Dev. Corpn. There are no, firm proposals at present Ltd. for openin, of new post offices in the district. 42. National Thermal Power Corpn. Ltd. (b) There are no firm proposals at present for upgradation of Branch and 43. N eyveli Lignite Corpn. Ltd. Sub-post offices in Jabalpur district during the Seventh Plan period. 44. Oil India Ltd. Statement 45. Oil & Natural Gas Commission Locations Where Long Distance Public Call Offices are proposed to be opened 46. Praga Tools ltd. during Seventh Five Year Plan. 47. Rashtriya Chemicals & Fertilizers 1. Baghraji Ltd. 2. Deorkalan 48. Sponge Iron India Ltd. 3. Deorihatai 49. Steel Authority of india Ltd. 4. Bhajiya 50. Tannery & Footwear Corpn. 5. Kamara 51. Bbarat Coking Coal Ltd. 6. Bhaiswahi 52. _ Central Coalfields Ltd. 7. Amhata 53. Eastern Coalfields Ltd. 8. Vijayaraghaoara 54. Balmer Lawrie & Co. Ltd. 9. Khumarwara Baran . OpeDiDg of Public Call ot1ices and 10. Mahatawan Post OfIices iD Jabalpar District 11. Hadarhata 1566. SHRI AlA Y MUSHRAN : Will the Minister of COMMUNJCA TJONS be 12. Karela pleased to state: 13. Dibari the number and location of public 14. Pabadi call offices and post offices proposed to be oPened in the Seventh Plan in JabaJpur 15. Chhapara district; and 16. Pipariya (b) the number and location of branch post offices and sub-post offices proposed 17. Khamkhariya to be upgraded during the Seventh Plan in Jabalpur district? 18. Chargawan THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 19. Kaudiya MINISTRY OF COM MUNJCATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) lO. Diwari Twenty~fiv~ Public Call office. locations of whicb are planned to be opened in the 21. Bachaiya Seventh plan iD JabaJpur Diitrict are Jiven in the Statement below. 22. Silendi 137 Written Answerl SRAVANA " 1908 (SAKA) Written Answerl 138 23. Darhanan MTPA. Proposals for additional refining capacity . in Assam as well as grassroot 24. Agariya refineries at Karnal and Mangalore are also under consideratio·n. Such projects are considered primarily to meet the deficit 25. Aarsani (Darsani) of petroleum products in their re:_. pective regions. Expansion of Refining Capacity and Setting up of New 011 Refineries Statement I 1567. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Refining Capacities 0/ refineries as on SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE 1.4.1980 and 1.4.1986 . PATIL: Wil1 the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (Figures in Million Tonnes NA TURAL GAS be pleased to state: per annum) (a) the refining capacity of each of the oil refineries and to what extent expansion in their capacity has taken place since Refineries Capacity as Capacity as 1980; on 1·4-80 on 1·4-86 (b) the region-wise refining capacity and consumption of various petroleum IOC Digboi 050 0.50 products and how the short-falls, if any, are being met and surpluses disposed of; IOC Rarauni 3.30 3.30 (c) the plans for expansion of the IOC Gauhati 0.85 0.85 refining capacity of the existing refineries and to establish new ones; and IOC Haldia 2.50 2.50 (d) whether such expansion will meet IOC Koyali 7.30 7.30 the regional shortfalls? IOC Mathura 6.00 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE BPCL Bombay 5.25 6.00 DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI .. STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY HPC Bombay 3.50 3.50 OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHI LA ROHTAGI): HPC Vizag 1.50 4.50 (a) and (b). Statement I and II giving the refining capacity of each refinery as on MRL Madras 2.80 5.60 1.4.80 and 1.4.86 as well as the region-wise consumption of major petro'leulll products CRL Cochin 3.30 4.50 and refining capacity are given below. Shortfall or surplus of any product in any BRPL Assam 1.00 1.00 region is taken care of by moving' the product frem the surp]us region to deficit reE:,ions or by imports. If the surplus Celonot be absorbed in the cOllntry it is 31.80 45.55 disposed of through exports. (c) and (d). it is proposed to expand Note: In addition to the abo\'e, an the cflpacity cf the Koyali Refinery frdID additional capacity of 2.00 MMT per 7.3 MTPA to 9 S MTPA 'and of the ~nnum bas been commissioned at HPC Mathura refinery from 6.0 MIPA to 7.S Bombay as 'Swing Refinery'. IS' W~IINn .4If11HfS JULY 29, 1986 W,lltell ~,."",., 140 c.'IS .... 0IIt ~ 0 \C 0 ;a r-: v\ r--: c; i ~ 0\ t'f\ 0IIt " -.:to .... N .... "".... ~ § ..... N \C .... 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'4) III'). (I) to tr) 0\ M \0 N 0 \0 U 00 \0 N V'\ 00 - ""N • tr) j ~ .... < < < < '" "'" '0. Q,. Q,. ~ Q,. a::• - 00 ~ ~ .... F- .2 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ c ... 0 ~ V\ 0 0 ~ U... 0\ 0 ~ \C ~ 00 \C 8 .,.. ~ t: .... 00 ., cO .... N " \0 .¢ ..Q QS 0\ \C 00 .... ~ 00 - ~ i~ N ...... 'lilt• M \C N .... - .... ~ W ('of co - ...... ~ 0\ - ....~ ...c:: ~ v 0 0 -.:to ..c: N III') .... ~ . N ~ ..,) to ... ~ en V'\ "\0 00 ..... -0 ~ .""~ ~ N "I:t ~ \C N .... 'lilt .... Z "" CI C C 0 0 - ~~ C 0 0 ·60 ._ .~ ·60 r< tID I) OJ u ~ ~ ~ I) til .... ~ c ...,., c: , = ... u ..a u :c c E OJ I:• I)E u :I ..Q...'" ., ...u .c: .c: "C Q. 0 U, Q 0 .~ ... w 0 rI) ~ ...., •u ..., ~ (IJ ~ -0 .. C 0 CIS - =0 ~.. ~ ~ :2 z w < :c ~ '" a:; en z 141 Writ"" Auwe" SltAVANA 1 .. 1901 (SAKA) Written A""wera 142 Projects undertakea br BPCL and HPeL annual income does not exceed Rs. 6,000/- though no such limit is applicable in the 1568. SHRI GANGA RAM: Will case of Scheduled Caste Scheduled Tribe, the Minister of PETROLEUM AND women and children. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (d) Some State Boards are laking (a) the projects of Bharat Petroleum steps to set up such cells. Corporation and Hindustan Petroleum CorpC'ration included in the Annual Plans for 1985-86 and 1986·87 and budgetary [ Trans/ation] outlay and non-budgetary provisions for each project; and PoDutioD by Badarpur Thermal Power Plant (b) the State~ of the approval of each 1570. SHRI BHARAT SINGH: Will of these projects and the likely date of the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to commencement of construction and state: commercial production of each of these projects? (a) whether Badarpur Thermal Power Plant is in operation and if so, its installed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE capacity and tDe electricity generated in DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND thIs plant; MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (b) whether during the operation of GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : this Plant, the coal ash coming out of it spreads to the nearby villages which tells (a) and (b). The required information is l given in the Statement laid on the Table upon the health of residents and whether of the House. maximum quantilY of ash spreaAs durin, summer and winter season; and [Placed in Library. See No. LT.. 28S7/86] (c) jf so, the measures being taken Setting up of Litigation Cells in States to check the pollution of air as a result thereof? 1569. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI Will the Ministct of LAW AND JUSTICE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be pleased to state ~ DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- (a) whether Government are consi- TR Y OF 'PETROLEUM AND NATURAL dering a proposal to set up Litigation Cells GAS (SHRIMATJ SUSHILA ROHTAGf) : for weaker sections; (a) Badarpur Thermal Power Plant with an installed capacity of 720 MW is in (b) if so, the main function of such operation. The energy generated at this Cells; power station during tbe period April-Jurte 1986 is 893 MU. (c) the different classes of people wbo will be benefited by these Cells; and (b) The dust emission from the chimney spreads over a larger area during (d) whether such Cells wi)) be set up summer months while during the winta in all the States '1 season it spreads over a relatively smaller area. The extent of the spread to nearby THE MINISTER OF STATE I~ THE villages would also depend on the direc- MINISTRY,OF LAW AND JUSTICE tion and intensity of wind. (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) to (c). There is no proposal as such. However, (c) To check the pollution created by the Committee for Implementing Legal eacessive dust emission from Badarpur Aid Schemes (CILAS) is taking steps Thermal Power Station, improved ver~i(\n through State Legal Aid and Advice of the electrostatic precipitators is beirg Boards to extend legal aid to the poor. installed with higher efficiency. The orders Free lela' aiil is provided to those whose for these have already been placed and 143 1ULy 29, i 986 Written Answers 144 their erection after delivery is expected to (c) The following -steps are being be completed in two years. taken to further improve the Telepbone services in Orissa : STD telephoDe service in JhunjhuDu area 0) Overhead alignments are being 1571. SHRI MODH. A YUB KHAN: replaced by underground cables. Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (ii) District Headquarters are being connected to the capital cities (a) the time by which STD telephone through various transmission service will start operating in Jhunjhunu systems for improvement of long area; and distance communication. (b) the time by wbich the new tele- (iii) Trunk automatic exchange will be phone exchange building at jhimjhunu installed at Cuttack. which was under construction is likely to be completed 1 (iv) SUI)ervision and inspection are being tightened. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Setting up of paper mill in Anamali and S.T.D. telephone service in Jbunjhunu is Valparai area expected to start operu ti ng towards the end of 7th pJan. 1573. SHRI R. ANNANAMBI : Will the Minht'rof INDUSTRY be pleased to (b) The new teJepone exchange build- state: ing at JhuDjhunu is likely to be completed during 1986-87. (a) whether Government are aware that there is heavy growth of bamboo trees [Eng/ish1 in the forests of Anam1li and Valparai area; and DeterioratioD of telecommuoication services in Orissa (b) if so, whether there is any pro- 1572. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN : posal under consideration to set up a paper Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS mill in this area with a view to utilise be pleased to state: forest products as wdl as to provide employment opportunities to people of (a) whether Government are aware these areas? of the deterioration in telecommunication services in Orissa; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (b) if so, the factors responsible there- DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- for; and CHALAM) : (a) and (b). The information sougbt is specific to certain areas' in the (c) tbe steps taken to improve the State of Tamil Nadu. Hence exact infor- telecommunication services in Orissa? mation about availability of adequate forest raw material on a sustained basis to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE support an integrated pulp and paper mill MINIS'fRY OF COMMUNICATIONS in those areas is not available. As on (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) 1 1.1986, there are IS mills in the State of- and (b). The telecommunication services Tamil Nadu with an annual installed capa- in Orissa are generally working satisfac- s:ity of 1.77 lakh tonnes. An additional torily. However, there was some temporary capacity of 1,58,430 tonnes has b::en dislocation due to n~tura) calamities like approved by way of Industrial Licences, rains, storms and some man-made faults Letters of Intent and Registration with due to the digging activities by PWD and D01D, which is under various ~tages of Eltctricity Department. implementation. The Central Government 145 Writ/en AnJwe" SRA VANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written ~1I8Wen have no proposal as present to set up a GAS (SHl\lMA.TI SUSHILA }lOR- paper mill in AnamaJi and VaJparai areas TAGl): (a) Yes, Sjr. or tbe State. (b) According to the approved An- Workshop on Westem Coalfields Ltd. in nual Plan for 1986-87, NHPC is to raise Wardha Valley area funds througb bonds to the extent of Rs. 150 crores during 1986-87. NHPC pro- 1574. SHRI SHANTARAM POT- pose to raise Rs. 6S crores from financial DUKHE: Will the Minister of ENERGY and other institutions and Rs. 60 crores be pleased to state : from pubHc. This amount wouJd be in 14% (a) whether there is going to be a Secured Non--convertible Redeemable BOIl~ workshop of Western Coalfields Limited in of the face value of Rs. 1000/- eacb for at par. The Corporation propose Wardha Vaney area; clsh to retain the over-subscription collected from the public. The bonds shall be re- (b) if so, the cost of the same; and deemed at par after 1 years. (c) where it is going to be Jocated and (c) The funds to be raised by NHPe the details thereof? through these Bonds a]ongwith tbe funds to be released by 'tbe Government of India THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI and the foreign loans already arranged for VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. the Corporation would be. sufficient to Government have approved the setting up meet the needs of the Corporation doring of a Central Workshop in Wardha Valley 1986-87. Coalfields Umited at an investment of Rs. 23 87 crores. Location is yet to be ProductioD and import or Soda Ash decided. 'Raising Funds by National Hydro 1576 SHRI YASHWANTRAO Electric Power Corporation GADAKH PATIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state: 1575. SHRI Y ASHWANTRAO GA· DAKH PATIL: Will the Minister of (a) the demand, indigenous produc.. ENERGY be p]eascd to state: tion and imports of soda ash during tbe years 1934 .. 85 and 1985-86 ; (a) whether it is proposed to allow Na tional Hydro-electric Power Corporation (b) the reasons for imports ; and to raise funds from the capital market ; (c) policy of Government in regard (b) if so, the details thereof; and to stopping imports and brinsing about self-sufficiency in production ? (c) whether these funds would be sufficient to meet the needs of the Corpo- ration? THE MINISTER OF SlATB IN THB DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND CHALAM) : (a') The requisite Informa- MlNISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS. tion, to the extent available, is siven TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL below: (Figures in iakn tonnes) Year Estimated Actual Quantity Actual demand production reaislered imports with DGTD for imports 1984 .. 8S 9.00' 8.17 0.72 Not readily 1985-86 9.90 9.18 1.91 avaiiabJe (upto 13.12.85) JULY 29, 1.16 {b) The indigenoUf pr."FUPl) is not THE MINISTER'OF STArE IN TUB adequate to meet the d~and. Q~PAaTMENT OF PUB~IC IiNTEJl- PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWAR¥): 'J'Jl~ (c) TJu= question of sU>PiiDI imports information is being collected and will be will ,~e onJr "ben Ute in4JaeIWils pro- laid on JlJe TaPle of th~ llQU,Sp. d~~iOD is adequ~te to meet the ~maJ}4. Commissioning of disDsed on WeDs ~da Ash is o~ f~ licensing to 3U S(cton of tho industry. Proposal, for 1579. DR. A.K. PATEL: .$~DI up of 3dditio~al c,pacity for the SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: liQ1Ulufactur~ of Sod~ Asb ar~ favourably COQ&id.crcd by the Government. Will the Minister of PET.ROLEUM ae.r.aee of New Maruti Car for AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to ~rt by Suzuki state: 1577. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: (a) the names and locations of oil Wall the Minister of INDUSTRY be pl~as. wells which are presently under disuse i ed to state : (b) since when these are lying idle (a) whether it is a fact tbat new and what is the expenditure bling inc .... rred Maruti .Qar haa c~ared for e~port by thereon ; Suzuki of Japan a few J]l9ntbs ago ; and (c) 'whether Government propose to . (b) the detaHs of tbe new model as take any step for commissiQDing tbese regarda its price, desiBn, s~~ al)f.) com- wells in order to add to the pre5~nt oil fort provided ? production; and THE WNISTJiJl. OF STATE IN THE '(d) if so, tlte details thereof? DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTElt- PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWARY) : (a) No THE MINiSTER OF STATE IN THE clearance from Suzuki Motor Co.. is nece· DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND ssJry. Expor's are governed by the Licence MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Agreement entereQ into between the two TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL companies. GAS (SHRIM \TI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) There were 329 sick wells as on (b) The ex-factory price- of new 1.6.86 in the following regions: model of Maruti-800 (Standard) car is Its. 63,900/-. Hew features of tbe vehicle include lMtIer sbaJ'e in passenger compart.. Eastern Region 113 lIlent, bigber Iud cfticiency. better aero- ~ dynamics and safety features and is in Western Region 202 ..eral '"*~, t~hJloINical)y ., compared to the prCN'iOG. mod"_ Bombay High 14 fpr ..~Ik ----- , ...... sets ..aor Total 329 -at, blcurriag l~ 1578. DBt ~.~ PATEL: SHRI C. SANOA REDJ>Y : (.,~ Tit. ~~om.ROA of wells falJiAa sick over a period of time and their liqui- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be dadon is a continuous process. Most pleased to state the units-wise detai1s of of the we)Js are liquidated within a period performance targets laid down for 1985-86 of 3 to 6 months. A few may take upto allcf·i~""87 sep.lrately for tb()$e public 2 years depending upon the natlJre of ,",or itUJusJriaI units which Ire incurring ,ickness and the cp~ratioDS to be ~arried repeated IOllcs'1 out. ,A, SRAVANA '1, 1108 (~AICA) tSO No Altellditure is incurred en dleIe e«o.rta. MMD POfVet teneradea co_ned wells exce,. 011 workl!llO\lOl". jobs when wit. strea(U cycle 'tVouid be .able to Ub~ undertaken for putting them on pro- coversioD efficiency of the order of» PAr dUdion. cent. (c) Yes, Sir. (b) FfJr retrofitting of Uagaeto Hydro Dynamic power system in an existing (d) The steps include- power pl"pt, studies are in progress. Studies made so far have indicated that -deJ)lloyif}1 more w_,rk over rigs. sub-systems like direct cOil) combustors, high temperature, air-preheaters and. super -work oyer operations Oil round- conducting magnets need furtller develop- the-clock basis. ment before retrofitting on a commercial scille could b~ taken up. -Sovi~t assistan(;e in liquidating sick wells. Scheduled Tribe employees ia 6NOO -improving efficiency of work 1581. SaRI SIMON TIOGA over operations threugh b.etter Will tbe Minister of ~'6L~tiM technology. AND N A TURA.L GAS be p1ease~ to state: Retrofitting-of Megneto Hydro Dynamic Power Generation in existing (a) the total number and perCentage Power Plants of Scheduleod Tribe employees in Qil and Natural Gas COlUmissipo" c.t.Fgory-wise ; tS8(). DR. D.K. PATEL: (b) the details of ba.ckJog in vact\n- SHRI C. JANGA ltEDDY : cies reserved for Scheduled Tribes in ONGC; and Will the Ministel of ENERGY be pl~ase.d to state: (c) the action takepjproposed to be taken to fiJI up the bCicklog ? (a) whether Megneto Hydro Dynamic Power generation has been carried (lut THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE successfully at Tiru~hirapalli directly from DEPARTMENT OF PqWER AND coal without the use of bojlers and Jarge MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- gener ators or turbines, r(lising the effi- TRY OF PETROLEU~ i\ND NATURAL ciency of thermal gene("ation by about 50 G.L\S (SH~MATI SUSHILA lOHTAGI) :. per cent with a simultanecus reduction in (a) The total number auA p;rcentage of fue1 consumption also; if so, the de~ails Scheduled Tribe employ'ees in ONGC as thereof; and on 1.4.86 as under :- (b) whetber experiments ha'Ve been made fur r.etrruiUing of the M.egnetD Hy1lrg 81. Group Total liP. of Percen- Dynamic Power Generators in the existing No. No of STs. tage power plants; if not, the reasons therefor; emplo- if so, wha.t are the results? • yees THE ~"INISTER OF ENERGV (BHR. VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. Uunder a 1. 'A' 11343 123 1.08 project of the Department of Non-Conven- 2. 'B' 3745 3S O~94 tional Energy Sources, Magneto Hydro Dyn- 3. 'c' 21474 746 347 amic Power generation has been success· ·D' 73&9 407 ; .1., 5051 fullp carried out on a 5 M W (Therma I 4. input) experimental plant at Tiruchira- palJi using Blue water gas produced from coke. Further research is ~ in progress. Total .3940 ISI'1 2.98 With f\JlIJl~J' g~Y~JoPJll~QtJ:and)uu'JlJiDa 151 Written A1I8W" 152 (b) Tbe backlol in ~acancies reserved Training programme by Heavy Eogineering for STs. in ONGC as on 1.4.86 is as Corporation, Ranchl folloWs :- 1582. SHRI SIMON TIOGA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Group Backlog state: 'A' 266 (a) whether the Heavy Engineering Corporation, Ranchi has implemented a cD' 70 comprehensive training programme to train artisans and technical apprentices; 'C' 92 cD' 103 (b) the total number of trainees since 1983, year-wise; and Total 531 (c) the number of Scheduled Tribe (c) The following steps have been trainees and its percentage, since 1983, taken to fiJI up the backlog of vacancies year·wlse ? for STs:- (i) Publicity through mass media THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE has been intens;fied to enlist DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- maximum number of ST candi- PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWAR Y) : dates. (a) Yes, Sir. (Ii) Concessions in respect of re· cruitment for STs in the Presi- dential Directives are being (b) Year Total Number fully extended to ST candi· of trainees dates. Special Selection Boards ha ve been establish ed to re- cruit ST candidates and pee- feren~e is given to them in oral 1983 50 and written tests -the quali- fying marks of ST candidates 1984 74 are 10 per cent less than those fixed 'for genera] candidates. 1985 106 (til) A special. scholarship scheme 1986 122(under training) has been introduced under which engineering students in lITsjRECs are given a ]umpsum (c) Yea! No. of SIT %age award of Rs. 5000/- in 2nd trainees year and monthJy stipends ranging from Rs. 600/- to Rs. 1000/- in 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th year in the institutes! 1983 12 24% colleges. 1984 9 12% (Iv) The Commisskn is conducting a professiona 1 training pro- 1985 16 15% gramme for ST executives and aJIo absotbiPI them in regular J986 24 196% pOsts. 1~3 Written AMwers SRAVANA t, 1908 (~AKA) ",rltten A1IIW'" Suppl, or stores in N. W. Telecom. Circle demand for such a facility. A suitable commission is paid for these services. 1583. PROF. NARAIN CHAND This service does not amount to privatisa- PARASHAR: Will the Minister of COM .. tion because tbe postage stamps and sta- MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: tionery sold by the licensed agent are issued periodically from the departmental (a) whether there is an acute shortage post office to which the agent is attached in the supply of certain items of stores and the postal' articles booked/collected resulting in inadequate progress in the by the agent are also processed/transmitted! expansion of teJecom facilities in the N. W. delivered through normal postal chatqle)s. Telecom. Circle; and The scheme is, therefore J fully integrated with departmental operations. (b) if so, the steps taken to improve the situation in this regard? This scheme is in consonance with the broad policies of the Government as it THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE leads to extension of basic postal facilities MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS at a relatively Jower cost to the public (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) exchequer It also has the incidental bene- No, Sir. North West Circle provided fit of involvement of social1y useful orga- about 15000 Telephone connections during nisations/institutions in a public purpose 85-86 against the programme of 10000. besides generating opportunities for self- This could be possible due to good mate- employmen 1. rial supply. Inquiry into missing secret doculDeats of (b) Question does not arise O.N.G.C. PrivatisatioD of Postal Senices 1585. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: 1584. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: SHRI DHARAM PAL SINOH Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS MALIK: be pleased to state . SHRI SUBHASH Y ADAV : (a) whether there is any move to SHRIMATI OBETA MUKHER- bring about privatisation of postal services JEE: particularly in the backward regions of the country where the postal services are rllP SHRI KALI PRASAD in losses ; and PANDEY: SHRI NARA Y AN CHOUBBY: (b) if so, whether such a step wiJJ not be against' the broad policies of the SHRI MO~D. MAHFOOZ ALI Government? KHAN: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SHRI RAM DHAN : MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) Will the Minister of PETROLEUM and (b). No, Sir; There is no move to AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to bring about prlvatisation of postal services state: in backward or other areas. The scheme of licensed postal agents introduced by the (a) whether it is a fact that some Department in ,985-86 merely envisages important and secret documents are mis- that Licences may be granted in seJected sing from the Oil and Natural Gas Com- localities for postal agents who will sell mission; postage stamps and stationery to members of the public and also book' and despatch . (b) if so, the details of the miaina 10 a specified post office registered letters. documents; The objective of the scheme is to supple- ment the regular network of departmental (c) whether aJl1 enquiry committee post offices in areas where there is need/ has been constituted; iJli.1Jlen Answers (U) if sb, tfte 8efail~ thereot and (b) the number of ordinances Jap§ed a-clion taken atl4init the perstms ;!sPt>n~· after the initial period of six-months ; and t>ft ;"lnd (e) Steps bemg taken to improve the in Oil and Nahtral security arrangementS' (l.) the number of ordinances repro- GaS' Cbtntnission ? mulgated during this period? THe MrNISTEtt: OF STATE IN TIlE DE'ARTMBN't OF roWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN TffE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLI!UM AK£1 ~t"THRAL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (a) to (e). SCtttle charfs And didgtams (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) to (0) • related to tbe dry and abandoned welts During the period from the 29th 'uly, drilled in tbe Sonthern basins were report- 1984 tb 28th July, 1986, twenty ordinances ed stolen from a priv~e finD in New Were I'romufgated by the Ptesident. De- DeHti, to whom these were given by the tails of these Ordinances are shown in the ONGC for reprodnction. Reports have Statement given below. No Ordinance Seen fodged with the concerned Police was re-promu1gated. Only one Ordinance Station for irivestigation. viz the R~presentation of the PeoPle (Amendment) Ordinance, 1985 lapsed. The documents reported nllssmg do This Ordinance was promulgated with a nol taU aWllet cfa'ssified ca t egdty. view to take care of the special situation obtaining in Punjab when elections were Repromulgation of Ordinances held after the signing of the Punjab Accord. the Ordinance was also in force 1586. SHIll V.S.. KRISHNA IYER : when elections were held in Assam. It win the Minister of LA WAND JUSTICE 'Wds a]Jowed to lapse later since it was be pleased to state: considered. that a measure of this nature would neep to be included in the rele1atit (a) the number of ordinances issued statute as the part ot the electoral reforms dtNitti tfte laf tWe'tlf;-roltr months after consultation with political parties. month-wise, with details thereof; etc. Statement S. No. Ordinance Short title Signed by Promul- Replaced No. President gated by bS' Act on Publica- tion on (0 (~ (3) (4) (5) (6) 1984 t. The General Insurance 11.9.84 17.9.84 Act 3 or Business (NationaIisation) 1985 Amendment Ordinance, 1984 2 I J1 The National CaPital 19.10.84 19.10.84 Act 2 of Region Planning Board 198~ tJrdilutDte, 1984 SRA VAMA " 1908 CSAI(A) (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) 3. 12 The Foreign Contribution 20.10.84 20.10.84 Act 1 of (Regul~tion) Amendment 1985 Ordinance, 1984 4. 13 The Calcutta Mttro Rail- 21.10.84 22.10.84 Act 10 of way (Operation and Main- 1985 tenance) Temporary Pro- visions Ordinance, 1984 5. 14 The Sugar Undertakings 19.11.84 20.11.84 Act 11 of (Taking Over of Manage- 1984 ment) Amendment Ordi- nance, 1984 6 15 The Representation of the 20.11.84 20.11.84 Act 9 of People (Amendment) 1985 Ordinance, 1984 1985 7. 1 · The Bhopal Gas Leak 20.2.85 20.2.85 Act 21 of Disaster (Processing of 1985 Claims) Ordinance, 1985 8, 2 The Requisitioning and 7.3.85 8.3.85 Act 20 of Acquisition of Immovable 1985 Property (Amendment) Ordinance, 1985 9. 3 The Tea Companies (Acqui- 7.485 8.4.85 Act 37 of sition and Transfer of Sick , 1985 Tea Units) Ordinance, 1985 10. 4 The Terrorist and Disrup- 5.6.85 5.6.85 Act 46 of tm Activities (Prevention) 1985 Amendment Ordinance, 1985 11. 5 The Representation of the 8.9.85 8.9.85 LAPSD People (Amendment) Ordinance, 1985 12. 6 The Payment of Bonus 27.9.85 27.'.85 Act 67 of (Amendment) Ordinance, 1985 1985 13. 7 The Aircraft (Amendment) 16.10.15 16.10.85 Act 69 of Ordinance, 1985 1985 14. The 'symont of Bonus 7.11.85 7.11.8S Act 67 of (S~ond Amendment) 1985 Ordinance, 1985 JUL y 2~, 1916 . (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) 1986 15. I The Administrative 22.1.86 22.1.86 Act 19 of Tribunals (Amendm{nt) 1986 Ordinance, 1986 16. 2 The Ravi and Beas Waters 24.1.86 24 1.86 Act 20 of Tribunal Ordinance, 1986 1986 17. 3 The Contract Labour 28.1.86 28.1.86 Act 14 of (Regulation and Abolition) 1986 Amendment Ordinance, 1986 18. 4 The Motor Vehicles 28.1.86 28.1.86 Act 9 of (Arrendment) Ordinance, 1986 1986 19. 5 The Swadeshi Cotton MiUs 19.4.86 19.4.86 Act 30 of -Company Limited (Acquisi- 1986 tion and Transfer of Under- takings) Ordinance, 1986 20. 6 The Commissions of Inquiry 14.5.86 14.5.86 ** (Amendment) Ordinance, 1986 .·NB-The Ordinance will be replaced by tegular enactment during the monsoon session of Parliament. J 986 Capacit, utilisation of Cement Plants (c) the reasons for non-working ot" those units and for not utilising the iosta)- IS8'. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : led capacity ; and Win the Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to state: (d) the action taken to meet the demand of cement in the country? fa) the number of cement plants in the country which are not WOf king since THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lar uary, 1986 ; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL QEVE- , LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (b) the .number cut or them which (a) to (c). The following three large are producinl belo. their installed capa- cement plants in the country have not .a.,.;. be~n wotkina :- J61 ""llIen blwe,i S~AVANA ,. 1~ (~A1CA) W,.Jlteh A1IIWdi 162 s. No. Name of the Unit Date and reasons for closure 1. Rohtas Industries Ltd. Closed since July, 1984 due to labour Dalmia Nagar, Bihar trouble management deficiency and finan- cial difficulties. 2. Sone VaHey Portland Cement Under lockout since October, 1985 because Co. Ltd., Jappla of labour trouble and financial diffi .. culties. 3. Shree Digvijay Cement Co. Closed since March, 1985, due to nOD- Ltd., Sewree, Maharashtra fulfilmennt of requirement of pollution controt. Even before their closure aU the above (c) whether land for their construc- three units were w-orking beJow their ins- tion has been acquired in Azamgarh; talled capacity main1y for the reasons mentioned above (d) if so, the location thereof; and (d) With a view to meet demand of (e) if not, the reasons therefor? cement in the country, tdditional capacity has• been sa nctioned The new projects! THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE expansions are being reviewed periodically MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS to ensure their early matcrialisation (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): Schemes of modernisation and particularly (a) to (e). The information is being collec- conversion of wet process units into dry ted and wilt be laid on the Table of the process units, are being encouraged. With House in due course. a view to mitigate the adverse effects on account of power shortage, the industry Out of turn allotment of a~odatioa is being encouraged to set up captive to staW power generating sets and the units ins- talling new DG sets are being given relief 1589. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI : Will by way of reduction in levy quota. Cons- the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be tant efforts are being made to help the pleased to state: industry in overcoming the infrastructural problems arising out of shortage of coal, (a) the criteria laid down for out of power and wagons, etc. turn allotment of Government accommoda.. tion to employees working in the Depart- [Translation] md.ts under him; Staff quarters for Postal Department iD (b) whether there is a provision for Azamgarh U.P. out .of turn allotment on" humanitarian grounds on the recommendation of 1588. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAJ·: Members of Parliament as well; and \'v'ill the Minister of COMMUNICATIO~S be pI eased to state : (c) jf so, tbe nurm,er of houses aHot- ted out of turn during 1985 and up to June. (a) the districts in Uttar Pradesh 1986 on the recommendation of Member$ where. staff qUJrters for Postal Department of Parliament ? are prop0sed to be constructed during the Seventh Five Year Plan period; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (b) whether such quarters will be (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Out constructed in Azamgarh; of turn allotment of quartu'is made ia ' deserving and exceptional circumstances. (iii) Use of flame proof equipments General Criterion (or cfut of tutn allotment and accesSories at tfi6: Site. of quarters are that 5% of the total allot- ment is reserved for categories such as (i) (iv) Use of portable combustible gas illness of self·Heart Ailment (ii) illness of detectors. self Of r.mOy members suffering frotil Can- cer or TB (2) Physical1y handicapped (b) Yes, Sir. employees who have been recruited thro. employment eubaoge for pbysi- (c) to (e). The report submitt«J by cally ba n diCaf11jetf or against the quota the committee set up by ONOC to enquire reserved r.or physically handicapped (3) out- into the circumstanceS leading to the blow stanlling sportsmen. out, estimates of loss, etc is being examined by _it aftd, appropriate action {by No, Sir. There is no such Pfovi- would be taken by ONGC after the exami- sion. nation is over. (c) Does not arise. Imp.ementation of 1.aw Commission Reports [English] 1591. SHRI MOOL CHAND OAGA : Will the Mbister of LAW A NO JUstICE Fire at Kadi Exploratory Well be pleased to state: 1590. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : (a) the total number of reports given Will the MiniSter of PEtROLEUM AND by the Law Commission so far; NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) number of reports implemented (at what ate t&e normal safegaardr in full; obierved fo prevent fire on explor«toty we1ts; (c) number of reports implemented partially; (b) whether those safeguards were .observed in the exploratory well at Kadi ( (d) number of reports not implemen- (Me~aba disttjct); ~ ted so far and reasons for their non.. implementation; and (c) if so, how the fire there could Cfctbr dtfSJflte these safegUards; (e) total expenditure incurred on tbe (d) what further measures are con- Law Commission and its estabHmment templated to prevent recurrence of such duriq tbo tast three years, year-wise? ~re; ~d THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB (e) bb'W mtJtb loss of commodity ¥d MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE machinery was caused due to fire 't tadi (SHRI H R BHARDWAJ): (a) i13 exploratory well ? Reports have so far been submitted by the Law Commission. THB MINISTER OF StATE IN TaE bEPAllTMB~T OF POWER AND (b) 48 ReportS' have beer. imptemen- MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ted in full. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATUKAL (jAg $liRIMATI SUSHtLA (c) 3 Reports have been implemented (a) TIJt~ important aoRT AGI) : more partially. ~iBDtes are : (i) InstalJation of blowout preventors (d) 62 RePorts are peIldin.· hh'jfemen· aDd 1Vell cC)b tto1 eqttfJ1dtent. tation. Copies of tHe Repbrti bav~ bee. lent to the concerned Ministry/Depart- (if) MataitmtDbe or pro,elI mud ment and fAey art M vari0U4 Ita;w of weiakt. implementation. Wfltttn AnNe'" SRA~ ANA 1~ 1~ (SAKA) Writteli Ansige" (e) A to1al e:tpenditure of Rs. 42,04,585 Uae at Solar Energy Was incurred on tfte Law ComtnissioD ark! its establishment f()r the laSt 3 years. Veltr· 1593. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : wise. details are as follows : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleated to state the manner in which the st>lar energy has been pot to use so far and witll 1983-84 12,71,615/- what resu lts in respect of efficiency and cost involved ? 1984-85 13,14,945/- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (1) The direct use 16,18,025/~ of solar en('rgy is achieved mainly through the thermal and photovoltaic routes. T~ former utilJses tht! helt of solar radiation Shifting of Burf8u of Public Enterprises while the latter converts sunlight into from Ministry of Finallce to Mjnistry electricity. Among the solar thermal of Industry systems which are in use in the country are solar cook.ers, solar hot water systems, solar air heating units. solar driers, wuod 1592. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : seasoning kilns and deslinatioft systems. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Several thousand solar cookers and pleased to state: hundreds of other systems have so far been instalJed In the country. Among the photovoJtaic systems in use are solar (a) the reasons for shl fting the Bureau powered streetlighting units, community of Public Enterprises from Mmistry of hghting systems, community television sets, Finance to Ministry of Industry; water pumping systems, signalling and telecommunication equipment, etc. These devices and systems are noW being manu- (b) the steps so far taken by his factured . on a commerdal scale in the Ministry to ]ink business and industry to country and are being popularised through operate in a competitive environment; and the demonstrations and utilization pro- grammes of th..: Depdrtment of Non-Con- ventional Energy Sources through various (c) the results thereof? State and Central Gavernment DCJ)art- ments and agencies, Electricity Boards, eto. THE M1NISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- 2. The efficiency of photovoltaie PRISES (PROF. K. K. TEWARY): (a) modules made in the country is in the On crea tion of a new Departmen t of range of 8 to 1O~~. The efficiency ofs olar Public Enterprises in the Ministry of thermal devices depends on tbe materials Industry with effect from 25th September, used, ambient temperature, solar insola- 1985, the Bureau of Public Enterprises tion, humidity, etc The efficiency of hol (EPE) which was then funct10ning under W.lter systems is usually in the range of 40 the Ministry of Finance Was shifted to the to 45% whtle the efficiency of solar cookers new Department. Since the Department of is in the r,loge of 20 to 25% Efforts are Public Enterprises Was created to deal only continuing to improve the efficiency and with th~ matter relating to public st!ctor reliability of solar photovoltaic and ther.. undertakings, Bp·E was made a part of that mal devices. DepattnJent for .administrative c.onvenience. 3. The cost of photovoltaic modules (b) and (c). Except infrastructural is presently around Rs. 110/- to 120/- sector industries and industr~s considered per peak watt. A famify type solar cooi:e~ vital for national security and self-defence, costs' between Rs. 650 to 800. A solar hot ett., other industries in public and private water systems with a capacity of about sectors are already operating in a competi. 100 lit res per day has a capitl1l cost of tive. environment. about as. 70/· to 75/- per litre \lVlifJc if) 167 JUl \' 29, 1986 Wrlttell Answer. 161 industrial hot wa ter system of a capacity THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE of 10,000 )itres, per day costs between Rs. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 551 to 60/- per litr~. R &. D and tech~o (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No, IOSY upgradation efforts are countinuing Sir. to bring down the initial costs Ilowever, even at present levels, solar thermal (b) No Post Offi~e was closed in systems are costs effective for several Bihar during t~e Sixth Plan Period. industria 1 applications while ph"otovoltaic systems are cost effective for sman power New Automobile Policy requirements in remote ar.d isolated areas. V.arious incentiv(s are being given to usetS 1596. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR in order to ercourage indisposed applica- Y ADA V: Will the Minister of INDUS- TR Y be pJeased to state : tion. (a) whether Government are evolving Adverse effect or stoppage or RMS a new automobile poli:::y ; and sorting on delivery of letters (b) if so, the details thercor" '1 1594. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR Y ADA V : Will the Minister of COMMU- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE NICA TIONS be pleased to state : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL - DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- CHALAM): (a) and (b). THe matter (a) whether it is a fact that as a is under consideration of the Government. tesult of stoppage of R.M.S. sorting, the delivery of letters from Patna to Calcutta Telecommunication projects in Dbule district, which earlier used to taken two days, now Maharasbtra takes 5 days to 10 days ; 1597. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: (b) whether similar delays occur in Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS the neighbouring areas like Asanso), be pleased to state: Burdwan and Moramali; and (a) the ongoing and proposed pro- (c) . whether it is also a fact that the jects bot_h in public and private sector, private dak agencies work faster '1 in the field of telecommunications in Dbule district of Maharashtra ; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (b) the cost involved in respect of (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) No, each project/work ; and Sir. (c) the expenditure incurred so far in (b) No, Sir. respect of each project/work and the likely date by which they are expected to be (c) No, Sir. completed '? CIoI8re of Post OfIiees iu Bihar THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS )595. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) A Y ADAV: Will the Minister of COMMU- 3500 lines Indian Crossbar Telephone NICA TI0f;aJS be pleased to state : Exchange is under instaJlation at Dhule. It is also planned to expand this exchange (a) whether Government are going to by 1000 lines in two phases. clo~e down 20 Post Offices gut of 50 in Patna town area alone and more than 300 (b) Estimated cost of the projects Post Offices in the wboJe of Bihar Stelte ; mentioned in (a) above is as follows:- and 0) Project for 3S00 lines lCP Tele- (b) tbe total number of POlt Office. phone ExchangfJ: Rs. 2 86 ~JOJed duru., tbe Sixth Plan period ? Crores. 169 Written A",wt" SRAVANA 7. 1908 (SAKA) Wrliten Answerl 170 (ii) Project for SOO (3500-4000) Lines ProductioD of aati-TB drags expansion of Iep exchange: Rs. 50.47 lakhs. 1599. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: (ii) Project for' 500 (4000-4500) lines. SHRl SUBHASH Y ADA V : expansion of ICP Exchange: Rs. 50.47 lakhs. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (c). A hove Rs. 2.83 crores have a1ready been spent on project for the (a) whether it bas come to the notice insta11ation of-3500 lilIes ICP exchange. of Government that there is an acute No expenditure has been incurred so far shortage of anti-TB drugs in the country on the other two projects. Main ICP and the production has also gone down excbange is expected to be commissioned to one third of country's total require- during 1987 and the other two proposed ment; expansions of this exchange by 500 lines each are likely to be commissioned in the next three to four years. (b) if so, the total requirement of anti-TB drugs at present; Industrialisation of Sindhudurg aDd RatDagiri (c) the production of such drugs at Districts present; and (d) the action Government propose 1598. SHRI HUSSAI·N DALWAI: to take to boost the production of anti.. Will the Minister of lNDUSTRY be TB drugs in the country '1 pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DE- (a) whether a comprehensive plan for VELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHA- industrialisation of backward Ratnagiri LAM) : (a) to (c). There is no shortage and Sindhudurg Districts in the Konkan of anti-TB drugs. Indigenous production region was prepared in 198.0s by a task and availability in the country are tailored force appointed by the Mir.istry of Indus- to market demand. The production in try; and the organised sector of anti-TB drugs during 1985-86 was 762.80 tonnes. (b) if so, to what extent the findings (d) The Government has already and recommendations of the study made delicensed the production of anti-TB by the said task force were made use of ? drugs. In addition, to encourage tbe production of the two important anti-TB drugs, namely, ethambutol and Rifampicin, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE custom duty concessions have also been DEPARTMENT . OF INDUSTRIAL extended. DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M.ARUNACHA- LA M): (a) and (b). Government bad constitu ted a Task Force to identify Nu- Fuoetioniog of Lok Adalats in Orissa cleus Plants together with their ancillaries etc. for setting up in Backward Areas of 1600. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : Mabarashtra inc1uding Ratnagiri and SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : Sindhudurg Districts. As the implementa- tion of the Nucleus Plants recommended by the Task Force is to be carried out by Win the Minister of LAW AND the State Go\'ernment concerned, the JUSTICE be pleased to state: report submitted by the Task Force has been sent to the Government of Maha- (a) the number of Lok Adalats beld rasbtra for examination and execution. in Orissa so far ; and 171 IPrillen ~r8 ~12 (b) tae DumPer of &a&e5 "ttled by lb~ 0)""'" '$ an iIlv..o]ved .oa~. 'The them? w~le .q~st~ is beiDg CArefuJJy examin- ed again with a view to finaJising the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE amendments required to be made in MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE the AC,t be(o.r" d~cidins to brins the (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): According Aft into force. EW-orts are being made to the information furnished by the to take a decision in the Olat~r a$ early as Committee fur Implemeating Legal Aid possible. Schemes :- Completion of .ydro.. electric projects (.~ Four (4) Lok AdaJa.t& laave been held in Orissa upto 24.4.1986. 1602. PROF. RAMKRtSHNA MOR.E : Will the Minister of ENERG V be pleased (b) S4i cases in all were settled. to state: EDforcemeat of Hire-Purchase Act, 1~7~ (a) the actual hydro-electric potentia- lity tapped/installed so fal' in the country 1601. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: as against the estimated potentiality avail- Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE able in the various parts of the country; be pleased to refer to the reply given to and Unstarred Question No. 3204 on 13 August, 1985 regarding enforcement of (0) tbe reaSOflS for delaf in the c(}m- the Hire-Purchase Act, 1972 and state: pletion of hydro-electric projects and what is the estimated cost escalation in respect (a) whether Government have since of each of these projects? examined the matter relating to amen~ ments to the Act before its enforcement; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TBE and DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- (b) if not, the reasons fOf delay in TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL takiDg a decision? GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGl) : (a) Statement I js given below. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE YIN'STRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (b) Statement II is given be)(/w. The (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) The main reasons of delay in completion of matter i: still under examination of the the projects relate to difficultit!s in laJld Government. acquisition, change In the scope of the projects, delay in supply and non-sequen- (b) As. stated earlier, the Reserve tial supply of equipment, paucity of funds, JjaQk pf India has not agreed to tb.e shortage of construction materials, labour ".tutory ~me envjsaged by l)Je Bank- probletn6, unexpected geological conditions ips Law Committee m~de jn its report on encountered at the sites and design and P~raQll;l1 PrDperty Security Law (J 977). engineering problems. Statemelt-I Region Potential assessed Potential %developed at (;()Ok LF (MW) developed at 60% LF (MW) Nortbern Region 29,993 3234.8 10.78 Western Region 5435 1274.0 23.44 Southern Regison 11,940 4940.4 41.37 Eastern Region 6301 691.7 10.98 North East~rn Region 3 J ,875 160.7 050 ALL ll'JDIA 85,544 10,301.6 12.04 11' Wrillen ARIW'~ SRAVAN.7/1 1M (SAKA) ""IUNt~ ltet._tB - - ---~----r- SI. Name of the Project Installed Original cost Original. Commg. No., Capacity Latest cost Schedule (MW) (Crores) Likely .date pf commissioning 1 3 4 5 NORTHERN REGION Haryana 1984 ...8S' Units 1&2 Commnd. • 1. Western Yamuna Canal 6X8 --45.72 81.55 1986-87 1987-88- . Himachal Pradesh 55.80 19i5.8fj J. S .. njay (Bhaba) 3X40 --- -.-- 147.00 1987-88 J9&8-8~ 9.74 1980-81 2. Andhra 3 X 5.65 ------30.00 1986-87 Jamml4 & Kashmir 76.46 1988-89 1. Upper Sin db St. II 2X3S ~- --,--, 76.46 1988-89 1989-90 Punjab . \ 1. Mukerian 6X 15+ 115.58 1982·83 (90) 6X 19.5 --- 1984-85 (117) 261.87 ------~- 3 X 15 MW Commd: 1987-88 1~j8-89 263.16 VIII Plan 2. Thein Dam 4X 150 --..-.-..--.- --751.48 VIll riM 1988-89 -,--- 3. UBDC Sl-II 3X 15 1 --51.90 1t88-89 175 JUt,y 29.1986 W,tHen Answers 176 2 3 5 Ra}tUllwuJ 1. Mahi Bajaj Sagar 2X25+ 59.38 1982·83 2X4S --- -.-.- 163.94 2 X 25 MW-Commd. 1989-90 Utta, Pradesh 82.63 1989·90 1. Maneri Bhali St-Il 4X76 --- -_---_ 212.66 1989-90 110.77 VIII Plan 2. Kbara 3x24 --- --_.~- 110.77 VIII Plan 197.92 1981-82 3. Tebri 4x2S0 --.-.' ----.. 1065.86 VIII Plan 4- Lakhwar Vyasi 3 X 100+ 140.91 N.A. 2x60 --- --.--.-, 424.99 VIII Plan 104.51 1984·85 • 5. Vishnu Prayag 4X 120 ------_ 370.02 VIII Plan 144.18 VIII Plan 6. Srinagar 4X50 ------213.30 VIII Plan WFSTBRN REGION Glljarat 24.58 1978·79 1. Kadna PSS 2X60 --- ,--- 8636 1987-88 2. Sardar Sarovar 6X200+ 1033.00 Beyon d Yl I Plan Sx50 ------~--._. 1033.00 Beyond VI[ Plan Madllya Pradesh 209.30 19848S I 1. Indira Sarovar 4X12S -~ ...... ------~ it --475.80 Beyond VII Plan 177 W,llten An8Werl SkAVANA 7, 1908 (SAltA) 118 1 2 3 4 5 301.17 1988-89 2. Bansagar Tons 3XI05+ 2XI' +3XlS 339.86 (1988-89 PH-I (1989-90 PH-II &. III Beyond VII Plan 43.86 1989·90 3. Hasdeo Bango 3X40 --- 43.86 --1989-90 64.61 4. Bargi 2X45 --- 76.00 1987-88-- M aharasht,a 8.16 1977-78 1. Tillari 1 X60 --55.24 1986-87 (Rotated in May, 86) 8.40 1982-83 2. Bhira Tail Race 2X40 ------1986.87 63.14 1987-88 17.59 1983-84 3. Bhandardara 1 X 10+ 1 X 35 ------39.91 Unit·l Comnd. VIII Plan ", 3.9S 1987-88 4. Pawana 1 X 10 - -- 1442- J987-88 12.25 1989-90 S. Bhatsa 1 X IS --- -- 12.25 1989-90 14.29 1989-90 6. KhadakwasJa 2X8 --- -- 14.29 1989-90 16.32 1989-90 7. Ujjani 1 X 12 -- !.-- 16.32 1989 .. 90 17t W,l'ten 1 2 3 4 s c...11 (M.P./Maharashtra) 28.28 1978·79 1. P~cll 2X80 --- -_------61.80 Unit-I rotated in 1985·86 1986·87 SOUTHERN REGION Alldhra Pradesh 39.38 1985-86 1. Srisailam St-II 3 X 110 --- --58.00 1985.86 (Unit-I Comnd.) 1986-87 15.26 1987-88 a. "aaarjunasagar RBC Extn. 1 X30 ------15.26 1987-88 34.00 1988-89 J. Nqarjunasagar LBC ExtQ. 2X30 ------46.41 1988-89 17.77 1982-83 4. A P. Power House at Balimela 2X30 ------31.15 1987-88 1988-89 13.49 1987-88 5. Pocbampad 3X9 ------25.21 1986-87 1987-88 12.47 1987-88 6- Pepna Ahobilam 2XIO ------21.56 1987·88 11.98 1979.80 1, Upper Sileru St-II 2X60 --- --49.84 VIII Plan 136.40 1984.. 85 I. 'arabi 2 X 115+2 X 4.5 191.70 1987·88 1988·89 1" Wrltl. ~IIIW" SRAVANA 1, ltoi (SAleA) 1 2 3 4 s 18.55 1985-86 2. Ghataprabha 2X 16 --- ...... 28.31 1989-90-- 3. Kalinadi St-II lX 30+3 X40 201.01 1987-88 +3X40 -- _-- 327.40 VIn Plan 135.83 19&6.81 4. Gangavali 2X lOS ------217.00 VIII PI.. 18.22 VIII Plan s. Shivpur 2X9 ------.- 18.22 VIII Plan Kerala 23.40 1978-79 1. ldamalayar 2 X 37.5 ------._...... ,_ ...... 89.00 Unit.. ! rotated 1986-87 18.60 1984-85 2. Kakkad 2X2S --- 50.00 1989 .. 90 31.68 1984-85 3, ldukki St-II 3X 130 --- .. 80.00 --Units 1&2 Comnd.- 1986-87 11.80 1984-85 4. Kallada 2X7.5 12.50 1988-89 88.43 VIII Plan S. Lower Periyar 3X60 --- 142.09 VIII Plan- Tamil Nadu 35.12 1978-79 1. Kadamparai PSS 4X 100 --- 164.50 1987-88 1988-89 83.60 1981-82 2. Lower Mettur 4X2X 15 --147.00 --1986-87 1988-89 113 JULY 29. 1* Wrtll~" "4",,,er. 184 1 2 3 4 5 5.03 1987-88 I. Ienndab-V. Addl. lX20 ------10.10 1987 .. 88 13.73 4. Parson's Valley lX30 --- _.. ------13.73 Beyond VII Plan EASTERN RBGION BIIIar 17.40 1987-88 1. Eastern Gandu Canal 3XS ------27.40 1987-88 1988-89 21.94 1987-88 2- North lCoel 1 X 12 ------31.32 1988-89 0rlatI 15.97 1985-86 I. Htrakud 7th Unit 1 X 37.S ------27.00 1987-88 51.39 1980-81 2- Upper lColab 3X80 --18604 1986·87 1987·88 208.14 1986... 87 ,. Upper IDdrayad 4X150 -- -- 380.65 VIII Plan 40.55 4. IteDIiU ExtD. 3X50 -- 40.67 --1989-90 VIII Plan 18.62 5. Upper Kolab ExtD. lX80 -- - ..... ----- 18.62 VIII Plan W_ • .,al 24.20 1982·83 1. IIDIID&1l St-II 4X 12.5 --56.41 1988·89-- 1989-90 Written An,wer, SltA"ANA 7, 1908 (SAkA) 1 2 3 4 5 54.36 1989-90 2. Teesta Falls I to IV 3X3X7.5 -- 80.70 3X7.' J989·9O VIII PIaD NORTH-EASTERN REGION .Alsam 36.36 1985-86 1. Karbi Langpi ·2X50 78.50 1988-89-- 1989-90 10.54 1988-89 2. Dhansiri IS X 1.33 --- 15.40 1989-90 Meghalaya 38.79 1985-86 1. Umiam Umtru St·IV 2X30 88.37 VlIJ PIaa CENTRAL PROJECTS 490.45 1974-75 1. Salal 3XII' -- 567.35 1986-87 161.72 vmpJaa 2. Dhulhasti 3X 130 410.58 vm Plan 491.84 1989-90 3. Chamera , 3X180 --809.29 1989-. VIR PlaD 141.49 VWPIm 4. Taoakpur 3X40 -- 178.'1 vm Plan 157.84 5. Kocl Karo 4X 172.5+1 X 20 391.83 VIU-- Plaa 712.07 Beyond VII Pia 6. Uri 4Xl20 ---712.07 --BeJoad VB PJae t8' 1tJL y 2~, IH6 Wrltt., A"""", 1 2 3 4 89.00 Beyond VII Plan 7. Ranjit St-III 3X20 --- -_...._-~---- 100.48 Beyond VII Plan 56.77 1982-83 8. Kopili 2X2S+2XSO --- 185.65 2X25 ---Commnd. 2XSO 1986-87 96.31 VIII Plan 9. Doyang 3X3S ------126.61 VIII Plan 16.83 1982-83 10. .Pochet Hill 1 X40 -- -_ 41.29 1986~87 Marketiag of Sab-standard Engine Oil Government have announced a scheme whereunder the units have to be registered 1603. PROF. RAMKIUSHNA With the concerned authorities in tbe M0It.2 -: Will the MiDister of PETRO- State Governmenh. Further, various LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased checks are placed on the units to ensure to state: that the product sold is not of sub4 standard quality. Guidelines have also been issued to public sector organisations (a) whether Government are aWare etc., to ensure that used lubricating oils of the marketing of sub-standard engine generated in these units are sold to regis- oil to detriment of motor cars and two tered re-refiners only. wheelers in the country by using crude mcdlGdl in re-cycling the used engine oil in the Dame of Indian Institute of Petro- Coin Box Operated Public Call OIBces Ie ... ; and 1604. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN . (b) if so, the details thereof and the SINHA: Will the Minister of COMMUNI. measures taken by Government to check CATIONS be pleased to state: sut" malPractices? (a) whetber a reliable coin box oper. THB MINISTER OF STATB IN THE ated public can office equipment has been D~PAR1'MENT OF POWER. AND developed by the Indian Telephone In- MIN\STER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- dustries ; TIlY OP PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHtLA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). liP bas Dot conducted any (b) if so, whether it is comparable survey to establish whether their techno- with the coin box operated public call JOJY if. bring misused.. However, as per offices at London and other foreign air- some samples taken by them, it was found ports; and tbat SOIllC of the nt-cycled oil marketed was adulterated. Tbe samples were taken in (c) if not, when wiU such publk calf D~ ada (II Nodh India. offices be available in this country ? 18~ WrJttefl Answers SRA'\1'ANA 1, 190a (SAKA) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (ii) MIs. BHEL, who would undertake MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS the work for cathodic protection (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) of tho pipeline, have also entered and (b). Indian Telephone lndustrjes had into transfer of technology arran,e- made a preliminary design. Some techni- ment With a U.S.A. based com- cal problems were noticed during the field pany. trial. These are bcir:g attended before it is decided to productionise the same (iii) Mis. PSL Coaters, a Division til (c) A proposal is under consideration MIs. Punj & Sons, ha ve been to productionisc a modern coin box with awarded a major share of work STD facility by transfer of technology. for eoa ting of pipe!. KnOW how for this specialised coating system Role of Indian Companies in executing is being acquired from a Freneh HBJ Pipeline Contract Company. 1605 SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN Trade Protocel with Llby. SINHA: Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : 1606. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN SINHA: (a) whether the role of Indian firms SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: in executing the HBJ pipeline contract bas been increased as per the final contract documen ts signed ; Will the Minister of INDUSTR.Y ... pleased to state : (b) whether any of the foreign con" tracting parties which have agreed to take (a) whether be bad raceDtly aI,IIM • in Indian companies as partners in the exe- trade protocol with Libya; cution have also agreed to provide techno- logy transfer ; and (b) if so, the details thereof; (c) if so, the del ails thereof '1 (c) whether Libya owes considerable sums of money to various Indiad COrpo- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rations in payment of the work completed; DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI- and STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (d) whether the protocol has taken (a) Yes, Sir. this into account ? (b) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (c) The HBI contract would involve DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DBVE- participation of a number of Indian firms LOPMENT(SHRIM.ARUNACHALA~ to utilise their available infrastructure and (a) and (b). The Agreed Minutes siped expertise in addition to transfer of techno- at the conclusion of the SiJilh Sesaioa of logy. The important details are as the Indo--Libyan joiut commiSlion has follows: inter alia taken note of bilateral coopera- tion in the field of trade also. Both sides have agreed to raise tho level of trICIe on (i) MIs. TCIL with Indian associates would, apart from having a major I:8Janced basis. role in the area of tete-communi- cation & tele-supervisory system (c) Yes, Sir. also receive techncloaY 6-om foreJan companies. (d) Yes, Sirl' 191 Written A"twrl WrJtten AlUWefl Oatstaudlng amouats aplnst State petroleum products durinl 1986-87 as a Electricity Board. result of fall in their price in the interna- tional market; 1607. SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI : (b) whether this will have any favour- SHRI ANANTA PRASAD able effect on the resources available for SETHI: the economic development of the country ; and Win the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to atate : (c) if so, the defails thereof? (a) whether the various State EJectri· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE city Boards have failed to clear the out- DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND standing amounts to the tune of Rs. 165 MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- crcres to the National Thermal Power TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL Corporation ; GAS (SHRIMA TI SUSHILA ROHT AGJ) : (a) to (c). As the prices of oil in the (b) whether this huge outstanding international market are still fluid, the amount would adversely affect the annual extent of savings in foreign exchange and plans of the Corporation; and its impact on the availability of resources will be known only after the close of the (c) if so, the measures proposed to year. be taken to ensure that there is no cut in tbe annual plans of the Corporation? Agreements witb foreign countries for . Oil supply THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE] DEPARTMENT OF AND~ POWER 1609. SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI : MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): Ca) The dues .to NTPC from the State (a) whether Government had signed Electricity Boards outstanding at the end any agreement With the oil producing of March, 1986 totalled about Rs. 165 countries for the purchase of oil at market crores. related prices ; and (b) The recovery of the outstanding dues wou1d facilitate implementation of the (b) if so, the names of countries with annual plaDB of NTPC. which such agreements had been made ? (c) The need of clearance of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dues of NTPC has been stressed on the DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND State authorities. The measures initiated MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- to ensure that there is no cu t in the TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL annual plans of NTPC include opening of GAS (SHRiMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : Letters of Credit of adequate amounts by (a) and (b). Contract has been finalised the State Electricity Boards, rebate for with UAE for the import of crude oil at timely payments, and imposition of a market related prices Negotiations are surcharge on payments which are delayed. underway for concluding contracts for im- port of crude oil with USSR, Saudi Sa...... Foreign Exdlaage due to faU fa Arabia and Iraq. )tI'fee of petro1eam product. 10 latenatloaal Market AmpicUl1n Import by S.T .c. 1608. SHR.I C. MADHAV REDOI: 1610. DR. G VIJAYA RAMA RAO: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : pleased to 6tate : (a> tbe extent of foreign excbanle (al wbetber tbere is a Ilut of ampiciJJin ..vml in dle import of crude oi~ and due to unplanned imports by tbe State Written Answer, saAVA~A " 1908 (SAKA) Written Answer, Trading Corporation and whether this has Delhi has an islanding scheme to dis- resuhed in shut down of manufacturing connect Delhi system in the event of fluc- units, as reported in the Economic Times tuation in the frequency due to disturbance dated 24 June, 1986 ; in the system. DESU have also installed shunt capacitors to correct the voltage. (b) whether the formulators are dic.. Gas turbines are als~ b.:ing installed to tating terms to manufacturers which will create additional capacity and also to in the long range reduce production; provide reactive power for improving the and voltage conditions. (c) if so, the action taken in the matter? Revision of rates of royalty on Coal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1612. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): to state : (a) There have been no import of Ampi- cillin in the 1ast three years. (a) whether in November, 1984 the (b) and (c). Docs not arise. Union Government constituted a study group to go into the question of revision Load shedding in Delhi of the rate of royalty on coal without taking any representative from the coal producing States; 161), DR. G. VIJA YA RAMA RAO: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) if so, the reasons why any repre- sentative of the coal producing States (a) whether sUdden and frequent could not be included in the said study loadsheddings and voltage fltlctuations are group; causing heavy demage to equipment and gadgets installed all over Delhi apart from (c) whether State Governments de- causing total disJocdtion and chaos; and manded revision of royalty with effect from 13 February, 1985 on an ad valoram (b) whether any remedial strategy basis @ 15 per cent; and has been worked out to meet the situ- ation? (d) if so, the decision taken by the Union Government thereon and the pro- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gress made so far? DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL VASA NT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). According to DESU., DO (b) The Study Group took into consi- loadshedding has been done in Delhi deration the views/proposals of the various during the current year except on Sta te Governments and also heard their 3.4.1986 and 26.6.86 when the load .. representatives in person before finalising shedding had to be resorted to on the report. account of grid disturbance in the Nor- thern Region Power Grid. Whenever there is low voltage in the Northern Region (c) Some of the State Governments Power Grid of which Delhi is one of the suggested the fixation of rates of royalty constituents, low voltage conditions are on coal on ad-valoram basis. experienced in Delhi. However, to the extent technically feasible, voltage is step- (d) The Study Group has submitted ped up by DESU at their grid sub- its report and no decision has been taken statioDs. as yet. "'rltttn All8Pltrj W,ltten AIIs"t" {Translation] (c) It is proposed to meet the demand registere~ upto 1.4.85 on an average during New telephone coDuedloDS In Surat the 7th Plan. 1613. SHRI C.D. GAMIT: Will the Postal Revenue Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be plea- sed to state: 1614. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of COM· (a) the year-wise demand for new MUNICA TIONS be pleased to state : telephone connections during tbe period from 1980 to 1984 in Surat Telephone divh:ion of Gujarat ; (a) the postal revenue earned during each of the last three years; and (b) the number of new telephone connections provided year-wise; and (b) estimated revenue likely to be earned during the year 1986·87 ? (c) the time by which the remaining connections would be provided? THE MINISfER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The (a) 1982-83-Rs. 378.01 crores demand for telephone connections, year- wise in Surat Telephone District is given 1983-84-Rs. 434.54 " below:- 1984-85-Rs. 444.41 II As on Waiting list The revenue during 1985·86 is likely to be around Rs. 475 crores. 31.3.80 2,756 (b) Rs. 550 crores. 31.3.81 4,256 31.3.82 6,129 Opening of Post Offices 31.3.83 8,536 1615. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR 31.3.84 12.510 TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of COM. MUNICA TIONS be pleased to state: (b) The telephone connections pro- (a) whether Interna tional Postal vided, year-wise is given below :- Union has made any recommendation for opening of post offices; Year Telephone con· (b) if so, the salient features there- nections provided of ; (c) whether post offices have been 1979-80 2,014 opened in the country according to the 198()"81 954 recommendation of the said Union ; 1981·82 564 (d) if not, whether Government 1982-83 40 propose to open more post offices ; and 1983-84 115 (e) whether any post office is propos- 1984-85 107 ed to be opened in Basti district, Uttar J985-86 125 Pradesh also in the near future ? Written AnlWe;, SRA VAN! 7 f 1908 (SAtcA) jtprlllen Answer" THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) The steps include reorganisation MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS of works and procedure; ban on creation (SHR} RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) to of posts/filling up of vacancies; effective (c). The 1969 TOKYO Congress of the contract over expenditure on overtime Universal Posta) Union (UPU) had adop- allowances, office expenses etc. ; and ted certain postal targets within the frame- resol ting to various other economy mea- work of the Second UN development sures without affecting efficiency. Decade, which inter alia, envisaged "one post office to serve on average, eit-her an area on 20 to 40 sq kms. or 3000 to 6000 Commissioning of Indian Telephone inhabitants as the case may be". In India, Industries, Maakapar at pr(sent, a post office serves an average a population of 4,748 aDd and area of t617. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR 21.94 sq. kms. It will be seen that the TRIPATHI: \Vill the Minister of COM- postal development in India compares MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: favour(1bly with the UPU target referred to. (a) whether production in the Indian Telephone Industrje~ pJant at Mankapur (d) and (e). The programme of open- has commenced; ing of post offices depends primarily on the assessment made _from time to time of the needs with reference to prescribed (b) if so, the number of telephone norms and also on the resources available Jines produced during 1985~86 ; and in the Plan and non-Plan budget of the Department. As of now, there are no (c) the target of production of the specific proposals to open more post said industry upto 1989.. 90 ? offices in the districts of Uttar Pradesh or in other states/Union Territories. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Losses in spite of increase in postal (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, revenue Sir. 1616. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of COM- (b) During 1985-86, 28,000 lines of MUNICATJONS be pleased to state: electronic switching equipment was pro- duced at the Mankapur Unit of Indian (a) whether in spite of the increase in Telephone Industries. the postal revenue, the Department is incurring losses every year ; (c) The target of production of Mankapur Unit from 1986-87 to 1989-90 (b) if so, whether Government are are indicated below :- taking some effective steps to increase the revenue and minimise tbe losses ; and Year (c) if so, the details thereof and if No. of Lines not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 1986 .. 87 1,20,000 Lines MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes 1987-88 2,20,000 Lines Sir. 4,00,000 Lines (b) Effective steps have been taken 1988-89 to increase the Postal Revenue ,00 reduce wotlin, expenses with a view to minimis- 1989.. 90 S.00,000 lines iDa tbe losses. W,ltten AnlWtll [Englisla) (b) The position in India as on 31.3.86 is 0.529 telephones per 100 population. Extension to top Executives in Public The demand projections for year 2001 A.D. Enterprises is expected to be around 330 Jakh DELS. If this demand is met this would corres- 1618. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGA- pond to a density of 3.3 telephones per LA M: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY 100 population in the country. be pleased to state: (c) Yes. Sir subject to tbe availability (a) whether there will be DO automa- of resources. tic extension of term of top Executives in public sector enterprises as reported in the Costly Drugs manufactured by Multinational 'Economic Times' dated 28 June, 1986; Drug Companies and (b) whether this policy applies to 1620. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- alJ other top positions in Government ? HIT: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state ~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- (a) whether Government are aware PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): that the multinational drug companies in (8) Yes Sir. the country are manufacturing very costly drugs which tLe poor masses in the coun- (b) Incumbents of top positions in try are unable to afford; and the Go"ernment are normaByappointed on tenure basis. However, their perfor- (b) if so, the reaction of Government mance is kept under review and they can and the remedial steps taken or being be prematurely reverted to their parent taken in this regard ? Cadres. THE MINISTER OF ST A TB IN THE AvailabUity of Phones DFPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE. 1619. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMAN· LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): GALAM: Will the Minister of COM- (a) anj (b). Prices of over 75% of the medicines are statutorily controlled under MUNICATIONS be pleased to state ~ the provisions of Drugs (Prices Control) (a) whether the rise in availability of Order, 1919. The prices are fixed based phones from 9 to 12 per cent has been on detailed scrutiny of tbe cost structure achieved for the world as a whole ; by Experts. This ensures that price con- trolled medicine are only sold at the fair prices fixed by the Government. The (b) jf so, the positioo io India at present and what are the projections for raDge of medicines produced in the country by all the companies including multina- 2001 A.D. ; and tional companies is quite large. (c) wbether in view of lower invest- ments per phone in tbe modern electronic Use of latest tecbnology in tbeir performance phone exchanges, including Jow over-head by O.I.L. and O.N .G.e. cost of staff, building and manpower, the tempo of providing phone connections will 1621. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- be accelerated substantially, specially in HIT: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM nJral industrul areas? AND NATURAL' GAS be· pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (a) whether the Advisory Board on (SHRI RAM NlWAS MIRDHA): Energy (ABE) has warned the Oil and (a) The world density of Telephones Natural Gas Commission and Oil India bad reacbed It.3 per 100 population Limlted Dot only to improve their perfor- in 1981. mance but alto to ensure about latoat 201 Written Annrerl SRA VANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written A1J8Wers 20.2 technology and expertise in oil explo- (b) if so, full details thereof and ration; action taken by Government against such drug firms? i (b) jf so, the reaction of Government; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT . OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- (c) the steps Oil and Natural Gas CHALAM): (a) and (b). On the basis Commission and Oil India Limited propose of appJication filed by Director-Oeneral to take to improve their expertise and ([&R), the MRTP Commission instituted acquire latest technology in this field? an enquiry against one pharmaceuticaJ company, namely, MIs. Burroughs WelJ- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE come (India) Limited for issuing mislead- DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND ing and objectionable advertisement MINISTER OF ST A TE IN THE regarding their product 'Paracetamol', MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND marketed under the brand name "Ridake", NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA and passed an interim injunction order on ROHTAGI) : (a) No, Sir. The Advisory 2nd June, J986 restraining the company Board on energy has recommended that, from: even while trying to achieve self reliance, there must always be a technology window 1. R-epeating the advertisement like for there are always areas where country the ones already issued; will have no option but to purchase tech- nology and services. 2. Issuing any advertisement what- soever wkich contains misleading (b) and (c). The steps include :- statement that "'Ridake' is absolu- tely safe or is having no side- (i) Acquisition/Charter-bire of latest effects or implying so by way of avaiJab1e equipment in tbe suppression the sidf' effects of the field of exploration, surveys said medicine; and and laboratories etc. 3. Issuing any advertisement which (ii) Training of officers inhouse and contains any statement disparag- abroad in latest technology. ing Aspirin. (iii) Participation of officers in The injunction order was made abso- various scientific/technical Con- lute on 26th June, 1986. Notice of Enquiry ferences. has been issued tot he company and the hearing in the matter is fixed on 31.7.86. (iv) Obtaining assistance of foreign experts whenever required. Performante of State Electricity Boards (v) Foreign col1aborations and con- 1623. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- sultancy. HIT: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : MRTP enquiry against drug manufacturers (a) whe-ther the overall performance 1622. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- of State Electricity Boards is poor; HlT: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) if so, tbe reasons thereof; (a) whether the Monopolies and (c) Whether the measures taken so Restrictive Trade Practices Commission far to raise their efficiency have yielded has recently instituted any inquiry against any rosu) ts; and the drug manufacturers and also asked them to stop forthwith the issue of mislea- (d) if not, what further measures are ding advertisements; and now contemplated? IU1, Y 2f. 1916 204 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE over 20 per cent of tbe total houlO-bolders DEPAIlTMENT OF POWER AND as per 1971 census in the country have MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS", electricity. TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMA TI SUSHILA ROB- (b) The per capita consumption of T ADI : (a) The performance of some of electricity in India is about 9 per cen t of the State Electricity Boards in terms of the World average. prontability, utilisation of generating capa- cityJ transmission and distribution losses (c) All the tow.ns and 67.9 per cent etc. is not good. of the villages have been electrified at the (b) Delay in the execution and end of May, 1986. commissioning of new projects under-utili- sation of tbe existing generating capacity, (d) While the States of Haryana, hiSh transmission and distribution losses Kerala and Punjab have already electri ... and unremunerative tariff in respect of fied all their villages, the States of Gujarat, some categories of consumers etc have, Himachal Pradesh, Karnataka, Maba- inter-alia, affected the overan performance rashtra and Tamil Nadu are likely to of the State Electricity Boards. achieve cent per cent electrification shortly. Cent per cent electrification in (c) and (d). The performance of the the remaining States is likely to be State Electricity Boards is being improved achieved by the end of the Eighth Plan by a number of measures suggested to subject to the a vailability o~ resources. them, which relate to reduction of trans ... mission and distribution losses, improve- Losses iocurred by State Electririty Boards IDeal in project implementation, better capacity utilisation, sys!ematic man power planning and training etc, and execution 1625. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA of a centrally-sponsored Renovation and MURTY: Will the Minister of ENERGY Modernisation Scheme for improving tbe be pleased to state : performance of 32 Thermal Power Stations. (a) the cumulative losses of the State Electricity Boards at the beginning of the Rate of colI.. mptioa 0' electriieation Sixth Five Year Plan; 1624. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY: Will the Minister of ENBRGY (b) whether the losses are expected be pJeat'ed to state: to increase from rupees 4400 crores to rupees 12000 crores by 1990; and (a) whether only 20 per cent of the Indian house-holders have electricity; (c) whether during the Sixth Five Year Plan period there was a shortfaU of (b) whether the per capita consump- SOOO MW as against the targets fixed and tion of electricity is only J/lOth of the if so. what additional aenerating capa- world average; city would be created during the Seventh Five Year Plan period ? (c) what percentage of Indian towns and vi 11 ages have electricity; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) by when and in which States cent DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND per cent electrifications is going to be MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE MINIS- achieved? TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) The cumulative commercial los4icS of llBPARTMENT OF POWER AND tbe State £lectricity Boards at the begin- MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- nin@ of the Sixth Five Year Plan stood at TRY OF PETROLBUM AND NATURAL Rs. 657 crores, after taking into account· GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHIU ROHTAGI : Subiidies t'or Rt,ral Electrification ~s pro- (a) Based aD the information aV1dJablo. vided in the accounts of the Boards, WrItten AlUWer, SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written AlIStfeT' (b) The Planning Commission have Fibre systems, 29702 Route Kms of estimated the commercial losses of the Microwave systems, 6125 Route Kms. of State Electricity Boards as Rs. 4472 crores Coaxial Cable systems etc. during Sixth Plan and Rs. 11757 crores dwing Seventh Plan. However, after taking (c) Yes, Sir. into account rural electrification subsidies and tariff revisions, the cumulative com- The outlay for 85-86 was Rs. 8SS nlercial losses at the end of the Seventh Crores, whereas the alloeation for the year Plan are expected to be Rs. 2830 crores. 86-87 is Rs. 83S crores. , (c) The total generating capacity of (d) Yes, Sir. 14226 MW was added during the Sixth Plan period against the capacity addition (e) Response is awaited. target of 19666 MW. During the Seventh PJan period, a total generating capacity Common Civil Code of 22245 MW is expected to be added. 1627. DR. PHULRENU GUHA : Expansion 0 f telecommunication facilities PROF. K. V. THOMAS: 1626. PROF. NARAIN CHAND SHRI 'lHANTARAM NAIK : PARASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to Will the Minister of LA W AND JUS- state: TICE be pleased to state: (a) whether any programmes for the (a) whether Government have any expansion of telecommunication facilities proposal to bring forward a Bin on Com- in the Seventh Plan have been curtailed mon Civil Code; by the Department; (b) if so, when such Bill will be intro· (b) if so, details thereof; duced in Paliament; (c) if so, whether the provisions coo- (c) whether the allocations for the tained in the Codico Civil Portuguees" a current year are even less than those of Jaw on the subject in force in the Union the previous year; territory of Goa, Daman and Die, have been taken into consideration; and" (d) whether the Department has taken up the matter with the Planning Commis- (d) whether the proposed legislation sion and the Ministry of Finance; and when becomes law, will be enforced on voluntary basis? (e) if SCI, the response of the Planning Commission and the Ministry of Finance THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in this regard ? MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ): (a) to (d). THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE The proposal to brin. forward a voluntary MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS uniform civil code is under the active (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) consideration of the Government and as Yes, Sir. such it is not possible to give details of its main features at this point of time. (b) Revised -targets f()r the 7th Plan of the Department are to commission Il Cambay Basin Petroleum Project lakh DELs, 9000 LDPTs, 15 Rural IDN Distts, S144 Route Kms. of Optic Fibre 1629. SHRI K. V. SHANKARA Systems, 8620 Route Kms. of Co~tdal GOWDA: Will the Minister of PETRO- Cable Systems, )0807 Route Kms of LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased Microwave system etc. against original to state: proposed target to commission 43.19 lakh DELs, 23000 LDPTs, 90 Rural ION (a) whether Government propose to . Districts, 11000 Route Kms. of Optical examine tbe Cam bay basin petroh!um prv- 201 Written Answer, JULY 29, 1986 Wrltt~n .,fIlNtr, 208 ject in view of the falling prices of crude THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE oil in the international market; DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- (b) if so, whether the project was TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL approved by the World Bank at a time GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : when the international oil prices were rul- (a) to (c). The Central Electricity Autho- ing at about 23 ""ollals a barrel and the rity has carried out preliminary studies to cost of production from the project was assess the adequacy of the provision made estimated at about 15 dollars a barrel; for the non-going generation schemes whicb are targeted to give benefits in the Seventh PJan. Tbe studies have been based (c) if so, whether a World Bank team on the project cost as indicated during had recently undertaken fresh study of the 1986-87 annual plan discussions in the project and the cost of pr(\duction from Planning Commission, The indication is tbe project is now between 15 donars a that practically al1 the ongoing projects, barrel to 20 dol1ars a barrel; and envisaged to give benefit in the Seventh Plan, will be affected by cost escalation (a) jf so, the outcome of the Ministry's and that an additional outlay of Rs. 2000 proposal? crores would be required. WhHe tbis addi· tional outlay may partly offset tbe effect THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of escalation in cost tbat has already taken DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND place wh·'rever revised project cost have MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS· been indicated, it does not take into TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL account further escalatIOn that may take GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA KOHTAGI) : place during the remaining period of the (a) No, Sir. Seventh Plan. (b) In the project Appraisal Report of Oil exploration by foreign companies the World Bank, tbe crude oil prices in the International Market was taken as J631. SHRI K. V. SHANKARA about US S 29 per barrel and the GOWDA: Will the Minister of PETRO- ONGC cost of production at about US $ LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be p1eased 13 per barre). to state: (c). No, Sir. (a) whether his Ministry is ha ving a programme designed to aUract foreign oil (d) Does not arise. companies to explore and de\-e)op 85 per cent of its remaining offshore oil and tracks; AcWitioD81 fiaance to complete power natura) gas projects (b) if so, whether new terms are pro- 1630. SHRI K. V. SHANKARA posed to be offered to attract bidders; and GOWDA: Win the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) if so, the steps "being taken to improve the offshore oil search during the (a) whether his Ministry has sought current financial year? additional funds to meet cost escalation in power projects; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND (b) jf so, the projects Which are affec- MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- ted due to the cost escalation and the TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL total amount that would be required for GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): completion of tbese projects; and (a) Bids have been invited by Government from experienced international companies (c) whether the cost escalation bas to explore for oil and natural gas in 27 taken place in projects which are already blocks in the offshore areas of Saurashtra under impleme1'ltion? and Konkaana-K.erala basins in the Western SRAVANA 7.1908 (SAKA) Written AnIwe" 210 coast and Cauvery, Krishna·Godavari, 2. ConcessionaJ Finance; Palar and Mahanadi basins in the Eastern coat. The lut date for receipt of bids is 3. Interest subsidy to engineer entre- December 1. 1986. preneurs for Small Scale Indus- '\ tries; (b) In order to get maximum response from the oil companies, the contract is 4. Seed/Margin money assistance for envisaged to have a seismic option, no small scale industries; aianatur.e or production bonus, no royalty payments, corporate income-tax at So whether in significant shift in its stand, industry has decided to come for- ward \\ ith the proposals for tbe setting up Detail! of all the incentives are given of projects in backward areas for their in the booklet on UIncentives for Indus- lpeedy industrialization and development; tries in Backward Areas", copies of which are available in the ParJiament Library. (b) if so, whether Government have received the suggestions made by the Merger of three sick Public Set-tor Drag industrialists in this regard; and Companies in Calcutta (c) if so, the details of the same and 1633. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: tbe concessions being provided to the SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- industrialists in setting up projects in JEE: backward areas ? Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleased to state : DBPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (8) to (c). The sbare of letters of intent (a) whether Government propose to issued for locations in Centrally dedared bring together thee sick public sector drug backward areas out of the total number of companies in Calcutta under a single com- letters of intent issued has increased pany or a ho1ding company; from 53.6% during the period January- May, 1985 to 55.3% during the correspond. (b) if so, the details of tbe proposal ina period of 1986. and reasons therefor; The followinl incentives/concessions are (c) whether the workers of these Ivailable to entrepreneurs for settin8 up companies have been consulted about tbe industries in backward areas: proposal ; and 1. Central IDvcatmeot Subsidy; (d) if so, their reaction thereto? 211 JULy 19, J9U. 212 THB MINISTBR OF STATS IN THB (i) prepariq an Action Plan for DBPAItTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVB- modernisation of telcaraph net- LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): work whicb envisages introdUC- (a) and (b). Government is examining tion of Store and Forward Me.. the question of reorganisation of the three sage Switches, expansion of Store Calcutta based public sector drug com- and Forward TeleJ1'aph system, paaies. prOv.1SJOn uninterrupted power systems in Telegraph Switching (c) No, Sir. Centres, development of telegraph terminals like electronic key (d) Does not arise. boards, electronic concentrators and replacement of existing elec- Delay I. c1eUm'Y of letter. aad tro-mechanical teleprinters by telegrams electronic teleprinters ; and 1634. SHRI INDRAHT GUPTA: (Ii) launching an Operational Action Plan to improve transmission, SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- JBE: reception and delivery of tele- grams within the stipulated time targets by way of increasing oper- Will the Minister of COMMUNICA. ative productivity. TIONS be pleased to state: Vayudoot services for carrying registered (a) wbether Government are aware parcels sent by Speed Post of the inordinate delay in the letters and ~n telegrams reaching their destination ; 1635. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- CHANDRAN: (c) the steps being taken/proposed to be taken to ensure that tbe postal items Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- and telearams reach tbeir destination with- TIONS be pleased to state: in the minimum po~sible time? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) which are the cities linked with MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS the Speed Post Service ; (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No reports of any alarming delays in delivery (b) whether the Vayudoot services of letters have come to notice. Some de- will be utilised for carrying registered par- lays in disposal of telegrams have, how- cels under above the scheme ; ever, come to notice. (c) whether the same charges will (b) Operational problems in transiting be levied on parcels sent by Speed Post ; of telelnnIK on account of net work limita- tion, frequent power failures in Telegraph (d) if not, how much extra amount oIices, absenteeism of the staff are the is levied; major factors contributing to the delays on teJeJfams. (e) Whether this facility is extended (c) MOPitoriDI of transit time to unre.istered parcels without refund for taken by mails is carried out regularly and delayed delivery ; aetioo it taken to remedy the abort-com- miD.. wbereyer noticed .. (f) whether tbe service will be extended to other important cities ; and As reprdl telearams, action has al- read, beeD iDitiated to improve the deli· (8) whether it will be available on YOr1 of teJepams by : Sunday. and Holidays alao' SRAVAlfA , • .,. (SAKA) THE MINISTER. OF STATB OF THB THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTR.Y OF COMMUNICATIONS MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SimI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) The (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) No, rqloWiDI cities are proposed to be linked Sir. with "Speed Post" service to be,in with: - (b) and (c). The present age of retire- ment of Supreme Court Judges is 65 and Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, Madras, that of High Court Judges 62. A proposal Ahmedabad, Hyderabad and Bangalore. received from an Hoo'ble Member of tbe other House for raising the retirement (b) The service win be used wherever age of Judges of Supreme Court and of found advantagious. High Courts is engaging the attention of the Government. (c) No, Sir. ImprovemeDt iD coalenatioD of electridty Ia (d) In addition to the usual postage iadustries relistration cbarges and air surcharge, the special fee for Speed Post service at the 1637. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: rate of Rs. 10/- for places upto 500 KMs. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : and R,. 20/- for places beyond 500 KMs. upto a maximum weight of 5 Kgs. wiJl be Win the Minister of ENERGY be charged. For parcels weighing beyond 5 pleased to sta te : Kgs. additional fee of Rs. 5/- for every ! Kg. or part thereof will be chJrged. (a) whether any efforts have been made to lay emphasis on bringing about (e) No, Sir. improvements in conservations of electri- city in industries by'introduction of energy (f) This will be examined after ob- efficient equipments and processes ; serving the working of the service for some time. (b) if so, the details of tbe sugges- tions made to State Governments in this (I) The facility for booking will not regard; and be available on Sundays and Holidays unless the Post Office identified as a Col- lection Centre is open. However, there (c) the extent to which the position wjJJ br no delivery of speed post articles has improved in States especially in Andhra on Sundays and 3 National Holidays. Pradesh? Raisiag Retiremeat Age of Judges THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND 1636. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : SHRI ANAND SINGH : (a) and (b). The States have been reques- ted to introduce enerlY efficiency stan- Will the Ninbter of LAW AND dards for equipment of common use, such ruSTICS be pleased to state : as e1ectric motors, furnaces, trnsformers, ceiling fans and electric lamps stc. and (a) whether Gevernment have taken having done so to evolve methods to see a decision to raise the retirement age of tbat manufacturers adhere to the same. Hip Court Jud,es in the country from They have also been asked to intensify tJae present 6S to 68 years as that of the process of educating ccnsumers on the Supremo Court Jud,es ; and advantages of using energy efficient equip- ment. They have also b.!en asked to get (b) if 10. tho time by which Govern- energy audits done in industries to enable ment propoae to briD. forward an amend- fixation of targets/norms of eneray con- JDOIlt bill before tho hrliamont ? lumption so that the performapco of 2.s .rut,Y 29, 19'6 equipment and processes could be moni- (e) if so, tbe .teps beiDI taken to tored to identify the scope for improve- minimise the same? ment in energy efficiency. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB (c) The State Electricity Board have MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS gradually been gearing themselves upto (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) promote conservation of electricity in aU Postal Charges in foreign post cannot be consuming sectors. Apart from distribu- considered excessive and the increase is ting pamphlets to educate and guide con- within the framework of Acts and agree- sumers in this regard, many SEBs have ments arrived at the Universal Postal stipulated provision of capacitors by con- Union Convention to which India is a sumers at their installations to reduce dis- signatory. All Member Countries of the tribution losses on account of drop in the UPU fix their rates of postage in accor- power factor. Consultancy cells have dance with the Articles of convention. also been set up in the Electricity Boards in Gujarat, Tamil Nadu and Punjab etc. (b) The rates of postage on letter to assist industries in implementing conser- post items in foreign post for surface and vation measures including energy audits. Air Mail and special charges on letter Studies of energy consumption patterns post items were revised from 1.5.1986. The in specific industries are proposed to be average increase in rates over the existing taken up in Madhya Pradesh and Punjab level of rates is approximately 38%. to establish norms and identify measures for energy conservation. In Andhra Pra- (c) No, Sir, as it would further in- desh specifically, the State Electricity crease the losses of the department. Board is trying to introduce tariff stipula- tions to encourage adherence to energy effi- (d) High Postal rates cannot be co- ciency norms. An exercise to review the rela ted to Parallel Postal system, as the electrical energy consumption of paper Central Government has the exclusive privileges of conveyance of mails under and cement industry in the State, to ana- lyse the consumption pattern and identIfy section 4 of the Indian Post Office Act, areas of energy conservation, is also being 1898 (6 of 1898), the violation of whicb planned by Andhra Pradesh State Electri· will attract strict action against any con- city Board. travention of the provision of the Act by any individual/organisation. Postal charges on Foreign Post (e) In view of (c) above, the question does Dot arise. 1638. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- CHANDRAN I Appointment of Licensed Postal Agents SHRI P.M. SA YEEO : in CannaDore 1639. SURI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- CHANDRAN : WilJ the Minister of TIONS be pleased to state: COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (a) whether Government are aware that posta) charges on foreign posts are (a) whether the Department of Posts excessive in India; invited on 18th March, 1986 application! for appointing licensed Postal Agents for (b) when were these rates Jast increa- running Postal Agency Counters at differ- sed and tbe extent of increase; ent places in Cannanore district, Kerala ; (c) whether Government wjJ.) consider (b) if ao, the names of places where lowerin& the charges on foreign postage ; these agencies are to function; and (d) wbether Government have taken (c) whether tbe agen.cies are intended Bote of the fact that the high postal to be granted to any reserved clasaea of rates lead to parallel pOltal sy.tem ; sad perSODS, if 10. the detail. thereof? Written .Answer, SRAVANA " 1908 (SAU) written AnlWerl 2it THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (17) Neduvaloor MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The (18) Nanaranvayal scheme of Licensed postal agencies is for- mulated by the Department of Posts but (19) Vanchiyoor r~ponsibi1ity for its implementation rests with field au thorities such as Postmasters (20) ChamathachaJ General/Regional Directors/Divisional Superintendents. It is a fact tbat appli- (21) Tirur Kosavanvayal cations for grant of Postal agencies in Cannanore Distt. were called for on (22) Peruvilathu Para 163.1986. (23) Ayicheri (b) The names of places are indicated (24) Alexnagar in the Statement given below. (25) Parvoor-Karayad (c) Under the scheme, licences can be issued to companies/firms/individuals. (26) Koovachal However, at pr(sent the scheme is mainly implemented through sociaJly useful asso- (27) KaryapaIJy ciations/institutions such as co-operativeli, Mahila Samaj etc. (28) Koothyad Statement (29) Tberthally (1) Attadappa (30) Vijayapuram (2) Bavode (31) Snehaniketan Socia) Centre (3) Cherumavilayi New Telephoae Excbaage at Tellidlerry in Keral. (4) Orappodi 1640. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- (5) Chattuppara CHANDRAN : Will the Minister of COMMUNICA TIONS be pleased to (6) Puravoor state : (7) Vesala (a) the time by which the new tele- phone exchange at TeUicbery in Kerala will start functioning in the newly cons- (8) Mullool tructed building ; and (9) Mutom Bazar (b) what is the present capacity of the Tellicherry Telephone Exchange and (10) Kanj irathara what is the expected capacity of the exchange to be started in the new (11) Kizhakkekara building? (12) Madakkara THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (13) Chithappilappoyil (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) The new telephone exchange at Telli- (14) Cborukkala cherry is likeJy to start functioning in 1988-89. (IS) Kanjiraogad (b) Present equipped capacity of (16) CbuJliyad Tellicherry Telephone exchatile is 1800 219 Jines. The capacity of proposed new ex- ana lysin, tbe performance data of these change is 3000 lines. field demonstration units. IastallatioD of Solar Power Statioas Sick SInaI Seale Ualt. 1642. SHR.I AMARSINH llATH· 1641. SHRI BALASAHBB VIKHE A WA : WiJl tbe Minister of INDUSTRY PATIL: be pleased to state : SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL : (a) the total number of small scale Win the Minister of ENERGY t;e industrial units, State-wise duriDI tho last pleased to state : three years; (a) whether government propose to (b) the total number of sick/closed have a string of solar power stations for small scale industrial units during tbe same brightening prospects in rura I develop- period, State-wise ; ment and remote areas in particu]ar ; (c) the main factors responsible for widespread sickness of small scale units; (b) whether five states have already and been chosen for this purpose; (d) steps being taken by Government (c) if so, their names and location of to solve the problem? power stations, State-wise ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) the estimated cost of insta1Jation ; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL and DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- CHALAM): (a) Statement I showing (e) the period likely to be taken cumulative number of small scale indust- for commercialising the systems for large rial units during the last three years is scale utilisation 1 given below. THE MINISTER. OF ENERGY (b) According to the latest informa- (SURl VASA NT SATHE) : (a) to (c). Yes, tion furnished by tbe Reserve Bank of Sir, it is proposed to have a number of India, which is the primary saeacy for Solar power stations based on \I arions compiling data relating sick small scale technologies in the country. The loca- industrial units from the portfolio of tions of solar power plants which are being scheduled commercial banks, Statement D installed or proposed to be installed are indicating State-wise number of small SaJojipaD)' (District Medak) in Andhra scale industrial units and number of sick! Pradesh, Achbeja (District Gbaziabad) is closed units for three years endiog Decem- Uttar Pradesh and Gwalpabari (Distt. ber, 1984 is given below. Gurpon) in HaryaDa. Two other States witb favourable potential for setting up (c) A number of causes, both inter- Solar tbermal power plan ts are Rajasthan nal and external operating in combination and Punjab. In addition, possibilities of or singly are responsible for sickness of mstaHinl such plants in other States are small scale units. Some of tbe principal also being explored. causes of sickness are : defective plannilll and implementation, manaaement defi- (d) lbe costs will vary With the size. ciency, inefficiency in financial control, Detaits will be worked out after experience diversion of resources. poor indestrial of tbe initial few units. reldtions obsolescence of tccbnoloay and machinery, inadequacy of demaDd, Ibor- ,(:e) The initial I'ow.er p1ant projects tage of raw materials, finance and otber ire expected to be completed within a inputs, and infrastructu"al constraint&. period of two to 'ltree years. The com- JbCreiaJit.ltioD of 'theM systelDs CDr their (d) Important mcuurea tat.. to ....~ 8ca1c llt11laadon Win be allCSltd after solve tbe problem or alaD.. art : ttl SRAvANA 1, 1908 (sAKAl Banks have set up sick units rehabili- State Level Inter-Institutional Commit- tation cells, to identify sick units and to tees (SLIICs) have been functioning in all formulate rehabilitation programmes. The States with the Secretary (Industries) to Industrial and Export Credit Department the State Government as Chairman for ,and Rural Planning and Credit Department providing assistance to sick units in a co- bf tbe Reserve Bank of India oversee and ordinated manner. monitor the efforts of rehabilitation cells of Banks. The IDBI and the IRBI haye Government have taken measures for formulated schemes for implementing re- extention of institutional network in the habililation programmes. lOBI and IFCI country for providing necessary back up provide financial assistance towards the support through cOllsuUancy services, pro- cost of feasibility studies for formulating VISIon of workshop facilities, setting up rehabilitation programmes. Process-Cum-Product Development Cen- tres, and Field Testing Stations to tackle the problem of sickness. Statemeat I Statement showing cumulative number of SIDO Units granted permanant registration by State/UT Di,ectorates of Industries S1. Name of State/U.T. Cumulative no. of SIDO Units as on No. 31st December ------1983 1984 1985 (Prov.) 1 2 3 4 S 1. A ndhra Pradesh 38530 43574 49142 2. Assam 4878 5773 6S43 3. Bihar 33333 37852 40222 4. Gujarat 40004 44606 48733 s. Haryana 36474 37045 44204 6. Himachal Pradesh 6466 QlS3 74&6 7. Jammu & Kashmir 11433 12013 13267 8. Karnataka 28214 35050 42359 fOIf 9. Keral. 23678 26464 29630 10. Madhya Pradesh 69501 80739 93798 11. Maharashtra 35349 38456 40944 12. Manipur 4140@ 2S94@ l794@ 13. Melba lay. 435 469 571 ltlLyo 29, 1986 (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) 14. Nagaland 361 374 395 15. Orissa 11592 12474 13319 16. Punjab 58724 62236 69753 17. Rajasthan 41144 43048 47127 18. Tamil Nadu 43988 49138 59756 19. Tripura 1715 14()()(@ 1715 20. Uttar Pradesh 58874 73166 88126 21. West Bengal 113802 117117 120692 22. Sikkim 45 SO 66 23. Andaman &. Nicobar 189 244 340 24. Arunachal Pradesh 262 246 262 25. Cbandigarh 1620 1782 1997 26. ~ Dadra &. Nagar Havcli 167 192 209 27. Delhi 17981 18904 19957 28. Goa, Daman &. Diu 2820 3100 3388 29. Lakshadweep nil nil nil 30. Mizoram 539 628 684 ~J:~ 31. Pond i cherry 1220 1389 1595 Total 687418 757006 849074 @ Figures under clarificat ion. Source: Directorates of Industries of respective State/U. T. SllAVANA" 190t (SAkA) Statemtnt D StGle~"t .howlng State-wise "umber 0/ total SSI Unit, given advances by all Scheduled Commercial Bank, and total number 0/ sick/closed SSI Units lor the year, ending December, 1982, December, 1983 and December, 1984 December, 1982 December, 1983 December, 1984 ------S. Name of State/UT Total Total Total Total Total Total No. No. of sickl No. of sick/ No. of sick/ S81 units closed SSI units closed S5I units closed given ad- S81 units given ad- 581 units liven ad- SSI units vances by (Nos.) vances by (Nos.) vances by (Nos.) All Sch. An Sch. All Sch. Commer- Commer- Commer- cial Banks cial Banks cial Banks (I) (2) (3) (4) (5) J. Andhra Pradesh 89885 4595 105274 5412 128226 5376 2. Assam 17458 2565 19352 4029 22563 2912 3. Bihar 52571 2504 59605 3540 70821 5652 4. Gujarat 71449 2564 84329 2600 94290 2856 S. Haryana 20560 1107 26533 1172 28029 1295 6. H.P. 10508 193 13669 216 13986 321 7. J & K 12988 449 __ 16095 501 18173 677 8. Kamataka 79966 4094 85189 4565 100700 6234 9. Kera)a 50271 1238 58528 1243 80877 1541 10. M.P. 61392 1197 73270 2329 91397 4166 11. Maharashtra 67476 5910 93712 7066 115437 8293 12. Orissa 47051 1438 55270 2135 5907S 3843 13. Punjab 45632 1085 51980 898 SI8SS 1170 1•• Rajasthan 50882 689 7J343 887 69004 3499 J5. Tamil Nadu 124004 8111 138238 16947 . 164011 182S6 16. U.p. 124883 6771 146731 7801 171966 9820 (1) (2) (3) (4) (S) 17. West Bengal 91684 11201 102285 14165 125562 13617 18. Goa, Daman & Diu 2235 133 3069 221 3978 211 19. A ndaman & Nicobar 118 22 160 23 210 23 20. A.P. 172 274 2 344 2 21. Cbandigarb 2166 77 2567 117 2920 130 22. Delhi 18385 1326 26695 1620 29583 1940 23. Dadra "Nagar Ha veli 156 2 175 458 3 24. Manipur 1188 385 1196 339 1644 595 25. Megbalaya 1253 176 1813 189 2243 209 26. Mizoram 226 2 206 1 400 2 27. Naaaland 1212 51 1375 1258 65 28. Pondicherry 1266 489 2000 114 2173 194 29. Tripura 2411 177 2498 219 2802 182 30. Sikkim 22S 321 647 31. Labhadweep 2 1 5 Total 1049675 58551 1243753 78351 1454628 92284 Cotnenioa 01 Manual Telephone Exchanges (c) the number of teJepbone exchan- .. to Aat08l8tie Teleplaoae £Sellanges ges likely to be installed during the Seventh Plan period ; 1643. SHRI AMARSINH RATH· AWA: (d) whether it is a fact tbat certain SHRIMOHANBHAIPATEL: district headquarters still have manual telephone exchanges; if so, their names ; and Will the Miuiater of COMMUNICA. nONS be pleased to state : (e) the policy in regard to convertins (a) whether there is a long waiting these telephone exchanges into automatic lilt of telephone coJlDCcnons in almost aU exchanlel ? the district headquarters aDd cities of Gujant State; THE MINISTER OF STATE Of THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 't.) if JOt the DUmber d1ereof and .teps (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (.) ~.. , taUa to JOIve the problem; Sir. SkAVAMA '. 1908 (SAltA) (b) Total waltiDllist is l03~ as OIl Hindustan Fertiliter COrl)OratioD Ltd. 30.6.1986. New excban.es are beiDg opened (Namrup), ltasbtriya Chemical. and PertI· and exlstinl ones are being expanded tizers (Trombay, Tha1) and Assam State wherever feasible depending upon the Electricity Board. .~eaource8. (b) Yes, Sir. (c) 212 new telephone exchanges are likely to be installed duriog the Seventh (c) and (d). Do not arise. Plan period. (e) Government have sanctioned South Bassein I & II Projects for iocreu- (d) Yes, Sir. There are S Districts ing production of gas. In additioa, es- Headquarters having manual telephone ex- ploration for oil and gas is co.ntiauial ; changes, namely : and additional free gas or associatat PI would be produced wherever viabJe. 1. Baruch 2. Bhuj. 3. Himmat- nagar 4. Surcndranagar (Dang) 5. Abwa. Participation in Oil ExploratioD .7 Noa- Resident Indian Engiaeen (e) The objective of tbe Department is to automatise all remaining manual ex- 1645. SURI P. M. SAYEBD: changes located at District headquarters Will the Minister of PETROLEUM duriq the 7th Plan. AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Import aDd production of gas to meet Indastries demaDc1 (a) whether Government invited the Non-Resident Indian Bngineers WGI'DnI ia 1644. SHR.I AMAR.SINH RA TH .. U.S. oil industry to participate in oft'-shore AViA : Will t'he Minister of PETROLEUM oil exploration ; AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : (b) if so, the incentives beiDI offered to tbe Non-Resident Indiana for usiDI Gleir expertise in India; and (a) the details of gas based big indus- tries in public sector ; (c) the response Government have received fro~ those engineers 1 (b) whether the indigenous produc- tion of Gas is fu11y meeting the demand of THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE these projects ; DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINIS- (c) if not, whether Government are TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL impor ting gas for this purpose ; GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) No. Sir. (d) if so, the annual expenditure in- volved; and (b) and (c). Do not arise. DelinkiDg date of approval of Foreip (e) the steps being taken to increase Cellaberati.. Asree-elltl the production of gas in the country to meet the demand ? ' 1646. SHRI P.M. SA YEW: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleuod to THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI- STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY (a) the details of decision taken by OP PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS Government to delink the date of approval (SIftllM A1'1 SUSHILA aOHTAGI): of foreign collaboration agreements in tho (a) Natural Gal is beiDa supplied on a interest of speedier technology uparacJa- ftllllar ..is to 11lc fGllowiDI bis ps tion and avoiding delays in commisaionill bated iDdultries in the Public Sector: of industrial proj eels ; 23t Written AIUW"s JULY 29, 1986 Written A.1I8"er~ (b) whether tbe requirement of taking a year and it is too early to consider any foreign collaboration agreement on record revision of the targets. if done away with would Dot create pro- cedural difficuhies ; and Oil terminal set up by H.P.C. (c) the details of the new decision? 1648. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- NAIK: Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) the number of oil terminals set (a) With a view to encourage speedier up by Hiodustan Petroleum Corporation implementation of technology upgradation in the country ; and avoid delays in commencing of indus- trial projects, Government have decided (b) the location of these oil termi- to abolish the earlier procedure of taking nals ; the foreign collaboration agreements on record. (c) whether some more oil terminals are proposed to be set up by the Corporation; (b) The new procedure has been in- and troduced to cut delays and remove proce- dural difficulties. (d) if so, the details of sites selected therefor? (c) The details have been pubJished vide Press Notes dated 2.8.85 and 12.6 86 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Copies of these Press Notes have aJrcady DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI. been sent to Parliament Library. STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY Se,eDtIa Plan targets of State Electricity OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS Boards (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). The Hindustan Petroleum 1647. SHRI P. M. SA YEED: Will Corporation has 19 Oil Terminals in the the Minister of ENERGY be pleased country at the following locdtion s :- to state: Calcutta -3 (a) whether the Seventh Plan targets fixed for the various State Electricity Visakh -1 Board$ for raising additional resources are realistic and achieveable ; Madras -1 Cochin -2 (b) wbctherf in view of the fact that mOl' of tbe State Electricity Boards are incurring lOlses, Government are consi- Vasco -1 dering to revise these targets ; and Bombay -7 (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Kandla -2 THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND Loni -1 MJNISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL Vashi -1 GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). The achievement of the targets Total 19 is dependent on the speed and efficacy with which the remedial measures set out (c) and (d). Hindustan Petroleum Cor- in the Seventh Plan are adopted by the poration Ltd. has no plans to set up State Electricity Boards. The Seventh any addititional Oil Terminal durin. the Plan bas been in operation for little over Seventh Plan. 233 Written AIINers SRA VAN A 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answerl 234 Commissioning of Hiodustan Organic preceding the specified datet balanced line Chemicals Phenol PI ant at capacity or the minimum economic Cochin capacity. 1649. PROF. K.V. THOMAS : Will (b) The report on "Small Scale Sec- t be Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to tor and Big Business" prepared by the tate: Indian Institute of Public Administration bas referred to 33 small scale units (a) time by which the Phenol Plant reported to have been set up by FERA of the Hindustan Organic Chemicals Ltd. Companies/Large and Medium Scale Indus- at Cochin will be commissioned ; and tries. The names and addresses of these units are given in the statement given be- (b) the estimated cost of this plant? Jaw. Further, details in regard to the pre- sent status of these units, their insta11ed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE capacity etc. are not available. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M ARUNA- (c) Expansion of capacity beyond the CHALAM) : (a) The Phenol Plant is approved capacity without a valid licence expected to be commissioned by October, attracts the penal provisions contained in 1986. Section 24 of the Industries (Development & Regula lion) Act. (b) The estimated cost of Plant is Rs. 78.10 crores. StatemeDt Production of items reserved for small 1. MIs. Arco Ltd., scale sector by large private 9, Wallace Street, undertakings Fort, Bombay. 1650. SHRI HAFIZ MOHO. SIDDIQ: 2. Mis. Ankleshwar Iron Exchangers Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleas- and Chemicals Pvt. Ltd., Tieeicon ed to state: House, Dr. E. Mosf's Road, Bombay- 400011 (a) whether licensed capacity of the large private sector undertakings in respect 3. M/s. Ethnor Ltd., of items reserved exclusively for the sm,'] I 30 A, For-lit Street, scale sector has been fixed by Govern- Spencers' Building, ment; Bombay-400026 (b) if so, the details of the large 4. Mis. Flash Laboratories Pvt. Ltd., private sector undertakings producing items Nirlon House, 254-B exc1usively reserved for small scale sector Dr. Annie Besant Road, together with details of ~eir permitted Bombay-40002S capacities; and 5. M/s. Gannon Electrolytics Ltd., (c) steps taken to ensure th&t the Chartered Bank Bldg., large private sector undertakings do not Fort, Bombay-400001 cross their permitted capacity? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 6 Mis. Garment Enterprises Ltd., DEPARl MENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVF- Swan Mill Compound, LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Tuckcr~ey Jivraj Road, (a) The licensed capal'ity of large under- Sewari, Bombay-400005 takings (hoth private and public sector) in respect of items reserved exclu,iv~Jy 7. MIs. Kiran X-ray Screens Pvt. Ltd., fer small scale sector is fi:\ed with rere· 59, Dulewal Chambers, renee to certain norms such as the best 29, Sir V.I. T. Marg, production achieved during the three years Bombay.. 400020 8. M./s. Roussel Pharmaceuticals Ltd., 21. MIs. Cbefate PharmaceuticaJa, Ltd., D. Sbivsagar, Dr. A B. Road, "Himalaya House" Worli, Bombay-400018 17, Chowringhee Road, Calcutta-71 9. M/s. W.T. Suren & Co. Ltd., Ralli House, 21, Raveline Street, 22. MIs. Indian National Diesel Bombay-400001 Engine Co. Ltd., 31, Chowringhee Road, 10. MIs. Unwal Industries Ltd., Calcutta-16 Plot No. B-23, Wangle Indl. Estate Road, 23. MIs. Sankar Electricals Ltd., No. 16, Thana. Super-B-4, Industrial Estate. Madras-7 11. MIs. Mercury Paints &. Varnishes Ltd., Veer Savarkar Road, 24. MIs Tullis Woodroffe (Belting) Ltd., Prabhadcvi, 1/21 t North Beach Road, Bombay-400025 Madras-! 12. MIs. Poplas India Ltd , 25. MIs. Blue Mount Ceramics Ltd .• 145, Bombay Poona Road, ] 513. Metbupalayam Road, Pimpri. Poona-18 Coimbatore-9 13. MIs. Vitro-Pharma Products Ltd., 26. Mis. Generators India Pvt. Ltd •• 9, Wallace Street, B-3, Vasant Vibar, New Delhi. Fort, West Bombay-400001 14. MIs. Dental Products of (I) Ltd., 27. MIs. Karnataka Coir Products Ltd•• Bombay. Upendra Bang, Udyipi, S. Kanarka. 15. Mis. Eureka r orbes Ltd., Bombay. 28. MIs. Dempo Engg. Works Pvt. Ud., Dempo House, Campal Panjim. 16. Mis. Ewac Alloys Ltd., L " T House, Narottam Morarjee 29. MIs. East India Carpet, Co. Ltd., Marg, Ballard Estate, G.T. Road, Chheharta, Bombay-400038 Amritsar. 17. MIs. J.K. Helene Curtis Ltd., 30. MIs. Nyloc Strappings Pvt. Ltd. J.K. Bldg., Narottam Morarjee Industria' Estate, Marl, Ba1lard Estate, Silvasa. Bombay-400038 31. MIs. Deccan Ayurvedashram 18. Mis. Nima Ltd., Pharmacy Ltd., Handalia Podra Road, Akota, 17 1-204/8 Saidabad, Baroda. Hyderabad-S00659. 19. MIs. Indequip Chern. Dyes Ltd., Nagara Road, 32. MIs. Tuff Tools International Cambay, Gujarat. Pvt. Ltd., NOIDA (UP) 20. Mis. Saurashtra Paints Pvt. Lt(f., Bedi Port Road, 33. MIs. Triveni Handlooml Ltd., Jam.,ar, Gujarat. KaDpur. 237 , Wrillen AMwerl SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written Aawn. Declaration of BoIdaDa as backward Prociuctioa and require meat of Cr.cIe Oil District 16S3. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: 1651. SHRI MUKUL WASNIK: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Witl the Minister of INDUSTRY be NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) the total production of crude oil (a) whether Government are aware in the country during the year 1985·86 ; that Buldana district in Maharashtra is and industrially very backward; (b) the annual requirement of crude (b) if so, whether Government pro- . oil in the country ? pose to declare Buldana as an industrially backward district and extend all facilities THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB given to districts failing under this cate· DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND gory; and MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (c) if not, the reasons thereof? GAS (SHRIMA!fI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) 30.11 million tonnes. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THR DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- (b) About 43.4 milJion tonnes (198S· LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): 86). (a) Yes, Sir. Supply of Petroleum/LPG in Karnataka (b) Buldana has already been identi- fied as a category 'C' industria11y backward 1654. DR. V. VENKATBSH: Will district eligible to the various backward the Minister of PETROLEUM AND area incentives. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : (c) Does not arise. (a) the allotment of petroleum pro- ducts and LPG made to Karnataka during Shifting of RaUway Mail Se"ice Office the last two years and the demand made from MaJkapur to Akola by that Government; and 1652. SHRI MUKUL WASNIK (b) the steps being taken to meet the Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS full demand of that State? be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Government arc aware DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI.. that the shifting of Railway Mail Service STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Office from MaIkapur in Buldana district PETROLEUM AND NA TURAL GAS to Akola has caused delay in the postal (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): service in Buldana; (a) While the allocation of kerosene to various States/Union Territories including (b) if so, whether Government pro- Karnataka is made by allowing S% growth pose to re-shift RMS office to Malkapur; over the allocations made in the correspon- and ding period of the previous year on a four- month-block basis, allocations of Bitumen (c) if not, the reasons thereof? and Paraffin Wax are made on annual basis keeping in view the requirement of a THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE particular State/U.T. and actual upliftment MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS made by that State/U.T. in the previous (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No, year, and recommendation made by tbe Sir. There is no delay. to mails due to State Director of Industries. Other petro- abolition of RMS office at Malkapur. leum products are not subject to any system of allocation and the demand is (b) and (c). Does not arise ~n view of met in full. A Statement showing the anSWer to (a) above. allocation and supplies of kerosene, bitu- W,lttM An.s1tPtrl JUL Y 29, 1986 W"It~n .4",." 240 men and paraffin wax and supplies of high ber, 1986) as alainst 5% liven in the pre- speed diesel oil (HSD), petrol (MS), Fur- vious year, an additional ad-boc allocation nace Oil (FO) and LPG made to Karna- of 2,000 tonoes in June, 1986 and 3,000 too- taka State during the years 1984-85 and es for July, 1986 has also been made to meet 1985-86 is given below. the drought situation. The oil companies have standing instructions to meet the (b) Besides the kerosene allocation requirement of other major petroleum made at the enhanced growth rate of products in fuJ) as far as possible. 7% during the current year (April-Octo- Statement Allocation/supplies of kerosene, Paraffin Wax, Bitumen and suppUes of 1-,(8, HSD, LPG, FO &: LDO during 1984-85, 1985-86 (Figures in 000' tonnes) Product 1984 .. 85 1985-86 Allocation Supplies Allocation Supplies I 2 3 4 Kerosene 314.0 306.4 332.0 321.2 Bitumen 29.S 25.0 35.0 17.0 (April, 85 to Feb. 86) Paraffin Wax 2.4 1.2 1.8 N.A. (for 1985) (for Jan.-Oct- 8') MS 129.9 140.0· HSD 722.4 804.8· LPG 45.0 '9.S· LDO 19.0 18.0· FO 169.0 129.0· • Provisional ITrtUUlatiolf] set up near big cities and densely popula- ted areas; SWftiag of CbeDlk.1 Factories 1655. SHRI MADAN PANDEY Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleas- (b) if so, whetber Government are ed to state: ~onsidering to get these factories shifted to some safer places in view of frequent (a) wbc.ther it is a fact that a majo- jncidents of leak ale of poisonous ,al rity of tile chemical factories have boon durin, the last ono year , 241 Written AlUWer, SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written J4111Wer, 242 (c) jf SOt the names of the factories Restriction on PoUtJcal A~tiyjtie. of proposed to be shifted and the places Employee. of Public Undertakiagl where these are likely to be shifted; and 1657. SHRI MANIK REDDY: (d) if not, the reasons therefor? SHRI M. RAOHUMA REDDY: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Will the Minister of LAW AND JUS- DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHA- TICE be pleased to state: LAM): (a) to (d). While it may not be correct to say tbat the majority of such (a) whether recommendation of tho factories are located only in big cities, Election Commission to restrict political State Governments were requested to set- activities by public sector employees in tho up expert groups to make a quick survey interest of free and fair elections has been of the chemical units in the respective pending before Government for more than States/Union Territories for the purpose a year; of identifying chemical processes and hazardous industries. The question of (b) jf so, the reasons for not accepting closing such an individual unit and/or the recommendations ; and shifting it to another place will be depen- dent on the condition prevai1ing in the (c) the time when decision is likely to unit, particularly the factors relating to be taken for its implementation? safety to man and environment. The con- cerned State Statutory authorities will, no THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE doubt, take appropriate action in this MINISTR Y OF LAW AND JUSTICE regard. (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (b). A Statement detailing the proposal made by the Election Commission and the sub- [English] sequent developments regarding the pro- posal is given below. Setting up of Public Sector Industry in Chikmagalur (c) It would not be feasible at this stage to indicate the time by which final decisions may be taken and implemented 1656. KUMARI D.K. THARA DEVI: since the proposal forms a part of the set Will the Minister of INDUSTR Y be of electoral reforms and these proposals pleased to state : have to be decided after consultation with political parties; etc. (a) whether Government propose to set up any public sector industry in Statemeat Cbikmagalur district in the near future; 1. In the set of proposals relating to (b) the total ncmber of public sector electoral reforms sent in 1982 the Election industries in Medak and Rae BareH dis- Commission had included on proposal tricts, separately; and seeking to regulate the conduct of emplo- yees of public undertakings and Statutory Bodies and Corporations in relation to (c) their total capital outlay and num- elections.. At the time of general elections ber of persons employed ? to the House of People and State Legisla- tive Assemblies, besides the employees of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Central Government, State Govern- DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- ments and Local Bodies, the employees of PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): (a) Public Undertakings, Statutory Bodies and to (c). Information is being collected and Corporations like the Life Insurance Cor- will be placed on tbe Table of tbe poration, Nationalised Banks, etc., are HoUle. also drafted for polling duty in large num- 243 Wrltte" AIUWe" JULy 29, 1986 Wrllle" AUW', hers. For ensuring free and fair elections, on the employees of public undertakinas, the Election Commission, felt it is esseo- etc., in the matter of their participation tial that such persons detailed for election in elections. This suggestion of the BI~ duty do not engage in political activities tion Commission was examined as a part or and convassing for candidates. the set of electoral reforms proposals. By the_ very nature of the problem and its 2. The Commission was of the view that complexity it would not have been feasible the purpose may not be fully achieved by to resolve it in a short time. making suitable amendments to the rele- vant provisions of the Representation of S. Since then there has been another People Act, 1951. It was noted that in development. In the case of Kripal Singb, the case of Government servants, Con- MLA, Vs. Shri Uttlm Singh & another duct Rules prohibited the Government (Civil Appeal No. 650/NCEjof 1975) which s~rvant from participation in political was decided on tbe 9th October, 1985, the activities and taking part in elections. It Supreme Court has posed the question was suggested to the Election Commission whether the employees of Public Corpora- in a Conference of the Chief Electoral tions should be treated differently from Officers that similar restrictions could be the employees of the Government or the imposed on the employees of Public principle of the article 191 (1)(a) is to be Undertakings, Statutory Bodies, etc. extended to the employees of State Cor- porations by enacting appropriate laws 3. Whlle examining this suggestion, the under that article. The court has not Election Commission had gathered that the answered the que~tion. It has desired Life Insurance Corporation Staff Regula- that the answer should be best given by tions contained provisions similar to those the elected representatives of the people in the Government servants' Conduct themselves. The Court has desired fur- Rules which prohibited the LIC employees ther examination of the matter within the from participating in political activities Government by some agency like the Law and elections. However, the Allahabad Commission. Higb Court in Sham Lal Sharma vs L.I.C. Ltd. (1970) ALL LJ 21 held that the afore- 6. The above observations of the said provisions of th~ LIC Staff Regula- Supreme Court have been processed in tions could not be enforced by the Corpo· consultation with the Election Commission. ration. This decision of the Allahabad The Election Commission has felt that it High Court Was subsequentJy upheld by would be better to amend section 10 of the Supreme Court in Civil Appeal No. the Representation of the People Act, 1879 of 1972 decided on 21.2.1975 (AIR 1951 to cover all the employees of the 1975 SC 1331). The Committee on Sub- public sector undertakings. It has also ordinate Legislation Was also stated, to suggested that the scope of the section have taken note of this decision of the 123(7) of the Representation of the People Supreme Court and requested the Bureau Act, 1951 will also require to be widened. of Public Enterprises to get similar regu- These suggestions have been idcluded in lations deleted from the Conduct Rules of the set of proposals relating to electoral other public undertakings functioning reforms. under the various Ministries. This matter was being pursued by the concerned Minis- try in the Government of India. LeaSing oat of salt land to Adivasi Coopera- ti,e Societies 4. In tbe background of the deve- lopments detailed in paras 2 and 3 above, 1658. SHRI S. G. GHOLAP: Will the Election Commission desired that the the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to decision of the Supreme Court and the state : direction of tbe Commitee on Subordinate ,Legislation might be examined by the (a) whether Government have accep- Government with a view to formulatin, ted the policy of leasing salt JaDd to the some ways and means, by some suitable Adivasi Cooperative Societies without caU lcaislatioD aeeltiol to impose restrictions of tender and that too for 20 yean; 245 SBAVANA 7, 19(1l (SAKA) Writ len Answe" 246 (b) if so, whether it is a fact that (b) if so, details tbereof in tbis relard; Adivasi Cooperative Societies of luchander and (Vasai) of Maharashtra are not given salt ) Jands wit bout calling tender and for long (c) to what extent tbe rural people I term; and in the country will get employment oppor- (c) if so, whether they will be given tunities ? lease as per accepted policy? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): LOPMENT (SHRI M.ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). Employment generation through (a) No, Sir. deveJopment of village and small industries has been one of the major strategies of the (b) Yes, Sir. five year development plans. Production in the decentralised sector of traditional (c) Yes, Sir, if the Societies offer industries such as khadi and village indus- tenders they will be considered in the light tries, handicrafts, coir, sericulture and of the existing policy. handlooms is labour intensive and as such Government have been taking varioUi Conversion of loans of loss incurring public policy and support measures to maximise undertakings ioto equity shares employment generation. In the recent Industrial policy Statement of 1980 also 1659. SHRI S. G. GHOLAP: Will Government have restressed the role of the Minister of IN-DUSTRY be pleased to village industries as a means to generate state: higher employment and higher per capita income. The chapter on village and small (a) whether Government have taken industries in the Seventh Five Year Plan- a decision to convert the loans of the 1985-1990 Vol. II, a copy which bas public undertakings which are incurring already been laid on the table of the Josses, into equity shares; and House, describes in detail the objectives and strategies, policy frame aod pro- (b) if so, details thereof '1 grammes for the developm~nt of tbe sector. IDBI has recently created a separate fund known as small Industries DevelopmeDt THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Fund under which refinance facilities DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- against the bank loans for the small scale PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): industries sector are to be made available. (a) No, Sir. Government have not taken The major thrust in the Seventh Five Yoar any such policy dedsion to convert the Plan for development of these industries is loans of the public undertakings, which are on productivity improvement, increasing incurring losses, into equity shares. the share of the products of this sector in the domestic market, promotion of exports, (b) Does not arise. upgradation and diversification of skins and welfare of workers and artisans through better working conditions etc. In Reritallsation of Traditional Cottage Industry order to upgrade technology and skiRs, a separate organisation namely Council for 1660. DR. G. S. RAJHANS : Will Advancement of Rural Technology was the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to also set up_ As a result of implementation atate : of various schemes and po1icy support. employment in the sector is expected to (a) whether to provide employment reach a level of 40 million persons includ- opportunities to the rural people Govern- ing employment of over 21 million persons ment have recentJy initiated several in the traditional industries referred to meu\'U'es to revitalise the traditional above by the end of the Seventh Plan cottate industries in the country; Period. 241 "rltlM Jin.rwer, JULY 29, 1986 """." .4Jww" Teche.olou de,elopmeat ageae, to help Clearanee to 'DaermaI .ad H,dro Electrie ~RlaU Seale Industry Pow. Projects 1661. DR. G. S. RAJHANS : 1662. DR. O. S. RAJHANS: Wnl the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to SHRI RANJIT SINGH state : GAEKWAD: (a) whether the thermal and hydro SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN : electric power projects of dilferent States SHRI YASHWANTRAO are pending for sanction with the Union GADAKH PATIL : Government; SHRI KAMLA PRASAD (b) if so, the details thereof, state- SINGH: wise; and Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be (c) the steps taken by the Union pleased to state : Government to clear those proj ects and by when the installation work will commence? (a) whether the Union Government propose to establish a technology develop- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB ment agency to provide service on DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI- modernisation and technological upgrada- STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY tion to the smaH scale industries in tbe OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS conntry; (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) and (b). Major thermal and hydro- (b) if so, when the proposed agency electric power projects in the country is to be set up; and awaiting investment approval of the Plan- ning Commission are indicated in the (c) the aims and objectives of the Statement given below. development agency and to what extent tbe small sector industries will be benefited ? (c) The approval of projects is contin- gent on a number of factors includin8 the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE availability of requisite clearances/inputs, DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL adequate resources and the ;nler.,e DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- priority accorded to these projects by the CHALAM) : (a) Yes Sir. concerned State. Determination of these factors requires close consultation with tbe (b) and (c). The shape, content and State Governments. It is not practicable to coverage of the technology development indicate a specific time .. frame for the cell have not been finalised. approval of each project. Statemeat LUI 0/ major generation ICheme6 pending with Plannin, Commi"lon/or I"veltment approval 81. Name of Scheme Installed Estimated lio. Capacity Cost (MW) (Rs. crores) 1 2 3 4 NORTHUM REGION I. Larjf B.E. Project (H.p) 3 X 42 MW) 126 168.15 2. Chenani B.B. Project (J.t Ie) (2X 1+2X2 MW) 6 20.92 1 2 3 4 3. Guru Nanak Dev Thermal Extn. Bhatinda 420 439.94 (Punjab) (2 X 210 MW) 4. Palana Lignite TPS (Rajastban) (2 X 60 MW) 120 180.00 S. Palamaneri HEP-U.P. (3 X 47.S MW) 142.50 126.16 6. Khara HEP-U.P. (3 X 24 MW) 72 110.07 7. Sobla Mini Hydel-U.P. (3 X 2 MW) 6 7.33 8. Uncbabar TPS Extn.-U.P. (2 X 210 MW) 420 443.65 9. Rajghat HES-U.P./M.P. (3 X IS MW) 4S 37.47 WESTERN REGION 10. Gandhinagar TPS Extn. Unit-4 (l X 210 MW)-Gujarat 210 163.88 11. Kutch Lignite Extn.-Gujarat (1 X 70 MW) 70 69.25 12. Utran Thermal Power Station Replacement Unit-Gujarat (l X 120 MW) 120 112.42 13. Sikka TPS 2nd Unit-Gujarat (1 X 120 MW) 120 102.70 14. Tawa L.B.C.P.H.-M.P. 12 13.86 15. Waste Heat Recovery Unit at Uran Gas Turbino Station (1 X 120 MW)-Maharashtra 120 62.56 16. Koyna HEP Stage-IV-Maharashtra (oX 125 MW) 750 277.12 SOUTHBRN REGION 17. Diesel generating sets at Kolar. Bihar, .Jamakbandi and ludl-Karnataka. 77.7 $0.81 18. Gas Turbine Plant in Bangtore-Kamataka 120 59.00 (4X30 MW) 19. Gas Turbine Plant at Brio Bridge-Tamil Nadu 120 56.48 (4X30 MW) 20. Shara98thy TailRace (4 X 60 MW)-Kamataka 240 160.59 21. Pooyankutty HBP (2X 120 MW)-Kerala 240 250.00 22. Mavattupuzba HE Project (1 X 6 MW)-Kerala 6 7.80 SUL Y 29. 1986 1 2 3 4 EASTER.N REGION 23. Ib valley TPS (4 X 210 MW)-Orissa 840 887.99 24. Bakreshwar TPS (3 X 210 MW)-West Bengal 630 682 S8 NORTH EASTERN REGION 25. Lakwa Waste Heat (1 X 22 MW)-Assarn 22 20.52 26. Ranganadi HE Project (3 X 135 MW) NEe 405 322.32 Publk CaD Offices in Madhya Pradesh booked during 85-86. They are Badanwara t Kunchwara, Cbhawara and Chhatar. 1663. SHRI PRATAP BHAND SHARMA Will the Minister of Working of teleprinter system in Madhya COMMUNICA TIONS be pleased to state: Pradesh (a) whether most of the Public Call 1664. SHRI PRATAP BHANU Offices in the rural areas of Vidisha, Raisen SHARMA: Will the Minister of COMMU- and Sihore districts of Madhya Pradesh NICATIONS be pleased to state: remain out of order resulting in a heavy loss to Government and people are depri- (a) the names of the destricts linked ved of telephone services in the rural with Bhopal OD teleprinter system for tele- areas; gram service in Madhya Pradesh; (b) the names of the places and detaiJs (b) the number of days on which the of trunk calls booked and matured at these teleprinter system in different districts was Public Call Offices after their opening till out of order during last six months, the date; and details thereof month-wjse and district- wise; (c) the names of those Public Call (c) the number of telegraphic messages Offices where no trunk Call has been which could not be communicated due to booked or matured due to line or tele- failure of the system for each district of phone being out of order? Madhya Pradesh during last six months from Central Telegraph Office, Bhopal; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MJRDHA) : (a) No. (d) the effective steps Government Sir. are taking to provide efficient teleprinter services in Madhya Pradesh? (b) The details of the trunk call booked are not available in the records. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE However, the details of the revenue collec- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS tcd against the efft:ctive caUs are being (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): <8> collected and will be placed on the table A list of the District Headquarters linked of tbe Hoase shortly. with Bhopal on Teleprinter system is liven in the statement laid on the Table o( the (c~ there are only 4 PCOs in Raisen HOUle. [placed in Library. See NG. LT.. Dittt. (rom where no trunk calls have been 2858/86] SRA ItANA 1,1908 (SAkA) Written Alllwer, 2J4 (b) the details arc furnished in the tised, but a general advertisement givIng statement laid on the Table of the House. a map as also details of localities involved [Placed in Library. See No. LT -2858/86) in the area transfer was published in the prominent dailies. (c) The desired information is placed in the statement laid on the Table of the (c) Information regarding percentage }Jouse. [Placed in Library. See No LT· increas in telephone lines, Sl.ate~wise dur- 2858/86) ing the last five years is given in the State- ment below. (d) A 3-year action plan has been drawn for the moderilisation of the Tele- The additions of new telephones were graph Network in the country, including generalJy on the basis of telephone Madhya Pradesh. This plan envisages demands in the different states. mechanisation of the network by introduc- ing Microprocessor-based Message switch- Statement iog systems, Elelctronic T .Ps, Electronic Key Boards etc. Provision for uninter- rupted power supply at the switching Percentage in- centres is also being made. Upgrada1ion SI. Name of State crease of new of the transmission lines is also proposed. No. telephones from 1981 to Supply of Telephone Directory Supplements 1986. in Delhi 1665. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: WiH 1. Andhra Pradesh 58.70 the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 2. Bihar 25.34 pleased to state; 3. Gujarat 49.74 (a) whether any 10,000 line telephone 4. J& K 33.52 exchange bas been started in Delhi this S. Karnataka 56.75 year and another 20,000 Hne exchange was started during last year; 6. KeraJa 47.94 1. Madhya Pradesh 25.46 (b) whether subscribers have not been 8. Maharashtra (including provided telephone Directory Supplements Ooa and excluding Dor are these changes and new numbers Bombay) 49.83 being advertised as before; and 9. North Eastern Region 32.84 (c) the percentage of additions of new 10. North Western Region 47.61 telephones, State-wise for the past five years and reasons for imbalances, if any ? 11 Orissa 48.29 12. Rajasthan 50.01 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 13. Tamil Nadu (inc1uding (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) pondichcrry and A new 10,000 lines exchange was opened excluding Madras) 47.75 at Nehru Place on 29th April during the 14. Uttar Pradesh 41.80 current financial year. During the last year 15. West Bengal (including no single exchange of 20,000 lines capacity Sikkim Andaman Nicobar Was started. Island and excluding Calcutta) 31.31 (b) Area transfer from Hazu Khas to the nameJy commissioned exchange at 16. Delhi 58.78 Place was effected on 27th June, Nehru 17. Calcutta 16.36 1986. Directory Supplement (June, 1986) incorporatina these changes has been sent 18. Bombay 64.76 to all the lubsC'tibers. In view of this indi- 19. Madras 53.09 vidual number chanlea wore not adver- CoapletioD of Kall Nadi Hyde) Project (b) jf so, the details thereof; if Dot the reasons thereof? 1666. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJE. SWARI ! Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTR Y OF LAW AND JUSTICE (a) whether many States in the country (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): 1667. SH1lIMATI BASAVARAJE- (b) Does not arise. SWAllI : Will the Minister of LA WAN D JUSTICE be pleased to state: (c) Statutory reservation of posts for (a) whether there is a proposal to aet Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes com- up a bench of High Court of Karnataka munities in the privato indultrial sector " J>harwar ; and was not found leaally pOllible. Iae.... of DiatrJets of U.P. sad (b) if so, tbe details of facilities AadJara Pradesh 10 Illdustria. rendered to the subscribers ; Development Programme (c) the extent to which tbis exchange J669. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Win will provide billing for STO calls and I,the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased avoid over-billing; to state: (a) whether Government have inclu- (d) whether there is a proposal to ded some districts of Uttar Pradesh in the set up commission such aD exchange in nation-wise industrial development pro- Hyderabad ; and gramme; (e) if so, details thereof and jf not (b) the criteria on which tbese the reasons therefor ? districts have been included in the pro- gramme; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) whether some districts from (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, Andhra Pradesh have also been inc1uded Sir. in the programme; if so, details thereof and if not, reasons tberefor ; and (b) The following special faciHties can now be offered to the subscribers of (d) the details of development that E-I0B digital electronic exchange on will be brought about in those districts '1 additional charge basis and on specific demand: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- (i) Call Waiting; (ii) Can Transfer; LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (iii) Wake up service and (iv) Abbreviated (a) to (d). With tbe objective to remove dialling. the regional imbalances the Government ha ve identified industrially backward areas and are providing various concessions! (c) It is proposed to provide, OD incentives for entrepreneurs setting up demand and on cbarge balis, datailed their units in these identified backward billing for STD calls. areas. (d) Yes, Sir. The details of identified backward areas in Uttar Pradesh and Andhra (e) One Digital exchange of 10,000 Pradesh and incentives and concessions lines capacity has alreadY been commissio- provided to the entrepreneurs establishing ned in November 1985 at Saifabad- their units in these areas are given in the Hyderabad. Another 10,000 Jines B-IOB booklet on 'Incentives for industries in exchange is proposed to be set up at backward areas (Centra1 Government and Secunderabad. Hyderabad. Financial Institutions)-April, 1984' read with Press Note No. 14/2/83 .. DBA.I Introdactioll of Speed Post Serriee dated 9.4.85, copies of which are avaiJable in the Parliament Library. 1671. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBBY: Settlog up of Digital Electronic Telephone SHRI N. DENNIS : Exchange in Hyderabad SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: 1670. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be TIONS be pleased to state : pleased to state: "(a) whether Government have com- (b) if so, the dataiJs of the proposal names of these coalfields and the reaSODS and the names of the cities which have for such fire; been included alongwith the other impor- tant cities of the world ; and (c) what is the estimated loss of coal from these fires ; and (c) whether the rural areas are also likely to be benefited from this service ? (d) the steps taken to extinguish fire in these coalfields. tbe extent to which THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE these have been successfull the amount of MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS expenditure incurred so far and likely (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) to be incurred in 1986-87? Yes, Sir. It is proposed to introduce Speed Post Service, both Internal and THE MINISTER OF ENBRGY International, in selected towns in the (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). country from 1.8.1986. There are a number of fires in Jharia, North Karanpura an d Raniganj coalfields (b) (i) The Internal Speed Post is of Bihar and West Bengal, out of which proposed to be introduced some ace known to have been active for at Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, more than 20/25 years. Coal is inherently Madrast Ahmedabad, Hydera- susceptible to auto-oxidation resulting in bad and Bangalore for the spontaneou~ heal ing. The other factors present. The articles booked which contribute to fires in coal mines under the Service will carry a are burning of the weed 'Bun Tulsi' in time frame for delivery on the subsided areas or near mine outlets. (ii) foHowing working day. A dumping of hot ash in goaved out areas, special charge will be payable (iii) illicit destillation of liquor in on such articles in addition to abandoned workings. (iv) quarry debris the normal postage for regi- catching fire, (v) selective mining in the stered airmaiJ artic1es. past, leaving lot of coal in unapproachable areas. The estimated loss due to these (ii) International Speed Post fires is around 50 million tonnes. service is pro posed to be introduced between India and (d) In order to control and extinguish U.K., U.S.A.. Federal Re- the fires, a number of projects have been public of Germany, Japan and prepared and are at various stages of Hong Kong. This service will implementation. The methods adopted be available from the four are blanketing, trench-cutting, digging out metro cities-Delhi, Calcutta, of coal, water infusion, ceiling of outlets Bombay and Madras-to the with isolation stoppage, injection of Speed Post Centres of these cement/bentonite etc. Due to these steps countries. in many of the cales, it has been possible to control the fires or partly extioauish (c) No, Sir. them. Expenditure incurred so far in dealing with the fires is about Rs. 65 Fire iD C ..lfields of Bibar aDd Welt crores. During 1986-87 about Rs. 12 Beap) crores are likely to be spent. 1672. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Takeover of W.G. Forge ad AWed Will tbe Minister of ENERGY be pleased ladumles to state : 1673. PROF. MADHU DANDA- (a) tbe Dumber of coalfieJds in West VATE: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY BenpI and Bihar which have caulbt fire be pleased to state: and are burning ; (a) whether a propolal has been (b) wbether a few of them bave been received by Government to takeover ~e burnin, for more thaD 20/25 yean, the defence oriented plant of the W .. G. PQI',.. aad Allied Industries at Kudal in district computerised in the Metro dis- Sindhudurg of Maharashtra to prevent tricts of Bombay, Calcutta, Deihl hardships to the workers and to subserve and Madras. the needs of defence production; and I, (ii) As far as technical faults are con- (b) if so, steps taken in this regard? cerned the following steps have been taken :- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- (1) Introduction of positive bat- LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): tery metering in crossbar (a) and (b). Yes Sir. The affairs of this exchanges. Unit have been discussed to consider the possibilities of its revival. However, in (ii) Provision of automatic view of extremely unsatisfactory financial switch over of day aa4 niPt position of the company and the uncertain traffic. prospects of its revival. no suitable solu- tion could be found. (iii) Reduction of forced release period on called subscriber- Over Billing in S.T.D. PhoDes held conditions from 1 to 2 minutes to 10 to 20 seconds 1674. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: in case of subscriber's dialled Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS trunk cans. be pleased to state: (iv) Introduction of SOO milli- (a) whether Government are aware seconds delay in trunk auto- of the over biIJing in STD phones all over matic exchaoSes for rocopi- the country ; tion of cal1ed subscriber a nswer condition ; and (b) tbe steps taken to reduce this menace; and (v) Routine testing of subecri.. ber's meter. (c) whether any technical innovations have been introduced so as to check this To safeguard the interest of subscri- menace? bers and to prevent mischievous clements from tempering with the meter or line THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the following ajditional measures bave MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS be(D taken: (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Yes, Sir. We are aware of the fact that (a) Sealing of metres. a few subscribers complain of over billing in . STD phones but the percentage of (b) Lockinl of meter rooms. complaints to tbe Dumber of bills issued is very sma)) and is Jess than 1%. (c) Restriction of entry into M.D.F. Room (Main Distri- (b) The following steps are taken to bution Frame Room). reduc: the incidence of over billing: (d) Raising of distribution points. (ij To avoid clerical errors, instruc- tiODS have already been issued to (e) Locking of distribution points. all the units to ensure proper care in billinl and to rectify the (c) Electronic exchaDles provide for mislakes if any t immediately and full details of STO calls made by a issue a revised bill to tbe subscri- su bscriber. In order to provide this ber wherever necessary. Moreover facility to the subscribers sened by ex- to eliminate mistakes in computa- changes of electro-mechanical type, viz.. tion, the work of telephone strowler and crossbar, Automatic w...aae billm, and accoUDtiDI hal bee. AccouDtina system is beioa iatrodUQld, pestal senices in Malapuram district opened durinl the year endinl Mardi of Kerala 31, 1987. 1675. SHRI G. M. BANATWALIA : (c) Postal: No, Sir; tbere OD reports Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS of gross deficiencies in postal facilities in be pleased to state : Malappuram district. (a) the number of post offices, sub (d) Postal: The question doe. not post office'S, telegraph offices and public arise in view of reply to part (c) above. call offices opened in Malappuram district of Kerala during the past three years; (c) &. (d). Telecom: As per 1001 torm objective of the Department of Telecmm- (b) the number of post offices, sub- unications or Telecom. facility is to be post offices, telegraph offices and public provided on subsidised basis for every call offices proposed to be opened during geogrphica) area bounded by a Hexalon the year ending March 31, 1987; of 5 KM side. All Hexagons fn Mala- ppuram district have been provided with (c) whether Government are aware telecom. facilities. Further prOVISion of the gross deficiencies in post and tele- will be examined based on demand and Ifllpb facilities in Malappuram district of viability. Kerala, especialJy in view of the fact that increasing number of residents work out- Law Commission's Report side and even abroad; and 1676. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: Cd) if so, the plans for the expansion Will the Minister of LA W AND JUSTICE of these facilities ? be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) the particulars of Law Commis- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS sion's Report which arc still under consi- (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) deration of G~verDment and on which P08tal-The information is being collected final decisions have as yet been taken; and will be laid on the table of the House. (b) when were each of these reports Telecom : The number of telegraph submitted to Government ; offices and Public Call Offices opened in Malappuram district of Kerala durinl tbe Cc) the steps being taken to expedite past three years are given below: examination of tbese reports and to decide on their recommendations ; and Year Number Public Can Telegraph (d) whether Government have refer- Offices Offices red recent1y some subjects for examination (C.O.) by the Commission and if 80, details thereof? 1983-84 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB 1984-85 2 2 MINISTRY OF LAW AND' JUSTICB (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (8) and (b). 4 1 Sixty-five reports of the Law Commission are still under consideration of the Govern- ment. ParticuJar. of these reports pendiDI (b) PMt.': There are no approved consideration of the Government alonl proposals at present to open new post with tbe dates of tbeir submission are fur- oftIces in MaJappuram district or in other nished as per Statement I below. areas of tbe State/country durin. 1986-87. (c) AU tbese report. have been traDI- r««ollf : Ooe Telearapb office and lated ioto Hindi and were laid on two Public Catl otIceI are proposed to be the Table of both the HODI. of .' W,III,,, A,1I.I'Wer, SRAVANA " 1908 (SAKA) Written AIIIWer, Parliament. Copies of the Reports have (d) The work relating to judicial been sent to the concerned Ministries/ reforms has been recently entrusted to the Departments for taking necessary action Law Commission by the Government to for implementation thereof. The reports be taken up on priority basis. A copy are I, being processed by the respective of the terms of reference is given as Ministries/Departments and tbey are at Statement II below. various stages of implementation. Statemeat I , 4 SI. No. No. of the Subject matter of the Report Date of Report submislion 1 2 3 4 1. 6 Registration Act, 1908 13.7.57 2. 10 Law of Acquisition and R.e,quisitioning of Land 26.9.56 3. 13 Contract Act, 1872 269.58 4. IS Law relating to Marriage and Divorce amongst Christian in India. 19.8.60 5. 17 Trusts Act, 1882 6.1.61 6. 18 Converts' Marriage Dissolution Act, 1866 13.2.61 7. 22 Christian Marriage and Matrimonial Causes Bill 1961 15.12.61 8. 26 Insolvency Laws 23.3.64 9. 34 Indian Registration Act, 1908 15.12.67 10. 3S Capital Punishment 19.12.67 11. 38 Indian Post Office Act, 1893 24.2.68 12. 42 Indian Penal Cod e 2.6.71 13. 43 Offences Against the National Security 31.8.71 14. 46 The Constitution (25th Amendment) Bill, 1971 28 10.71 15. 47 The Trial and Punishment of Social and Econo- mic Offences. 28.8.72 16. 50 The Proposal to include persons connected with the public examinations with the definition of "Public Servant" in the Indian Penal Code. 28.8.72 JULy 29, 1986 I 2 3 4 17. 51 Compensation for injuries caused by automobiles in hit-and-run cases. 15.9.72 18. Effect of Pensions Act, 1671 on tbe riabt to sue for pensions of the retired members of the pub- lic services. 4.12.72 19. 56 Statutory provisions as to notice of suit otber than Section 80, Civil Procedure Code. 14.5.73 20. 57 Benami Transactions. 7.8.73 21. 58 Structure and Jurisdiction of the Higher Judiciary. 8.1.74 22. 60 The General Clauses Act, 1897 21.5.14 23. 61 Certain problems connected with power of the States to levy a tax on the sale of goods and with the Central Sales Tax Act, 1956 21.5.74 24. 62 Workmen's Compensation Act, 1923 15.10.74 25. 65 Recognition of Foreign Divorces 5.4.76 26. 66 Married Women's Property Act, 1874 12.5.76 27. 67 The Indian Stamp Act, 1899 1.3.77 28. 69 The Indian Evidence Act, 1872 9.S.77 29 .. 70 The Transfer of Property Act, 1882 25.8.77 30 71 The Hindu Marriage Act, 19S5-lrretrivcable breakdown of Marriage as a ground of divorce 7.4.78 31. 73 Ciminal liability for failure by husband to pay maintenance or permanent aiJmoney granted to the wife by the Court under certain enactments or rules of law. 15.5.18 32. 74 Proposal to amend the Evidence Act, 1872 so as to render admissibJe certain statements made by witnesses before Commissions of Inquiry aDd other Statutory Authorities. 8.8.78 33. 76 Arbitration Act, 1940 9.1 1~18 34. 11 DeJay and Arrears in Trial Courts. 27.1. 78 269 Wrltt,n MIWU' SRA V.AN A 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answerl 210 1 2 3 4 35. 78 Congestion of Under trial prisoners in Jails 2.2.79 36. 79 Delay and Arrears in High Courts and other Appellate Courts. 10.5.79 37. 80 The Method of Appointment of Judges. 10.8.79 38. 82 Effect of nomination under Sec. 39, Insurance Act, 1938 2.2.80 39. 83 The Gurdians and Wards Act, 1890 and certain provisions of the Hindi Minority and Guardian- ship Act, 1956 26.4.80 40. 85 Claims for Compensation under Chapter 8 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1939 30.5.80 41. 86 The Partition Act, 1895 4.9.80 42. 87 Identification of Prisoners. 29.8.80 43. 88 Govt. Privilege in Evidence Sections 123-124 and 162 Indian Evidence Act, 1872 and Art. 74 and 163 of the Constitution 10.1.83 44. 89 Limitation Act, 1963 28.2.83 45. 90 The grounds of divorce amongst Christians in India-Section 10, Indian Divorce Act, 1869 17.5.83 46. 91 Dowry Deaths and Law Reforms-amending (i) the Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 (ii) I.P.C. 1860 (iii) Indian Evidence Act, 1872. 10.8.83 47. 92 Damages in Applications for Judicial Review- Recommendations for Legislation 7.9.83 48. 94 Evidence obtained illeaally or improperly-pro- posed Sec. 166A-Indian Evidenc:e Act, 1812 3.11.83 49. 96 Repeal of certain obsolete Central Acts 19.3.84 so. 97 Section 28, Indian Contract Act-Prescriptive Clauses in Contracts 7.4.84 51. 98 Sections 24 to 26, Hindu Marriage Act, 1955, Orders for Interim Maintenance and for the maintenance of Children in matrimonial procee- dings. 18.4.84 211 Wrltlen druwers Jt1L Y 29, 1~86 Written Answer, 2'72 1 2 3 4 52. 100 Litigation by and against the Govt. some recom- mendations for reform. 21.5 84 53. 101 Freedom of speech and expression under-Article -19 of the Constitution-recommendation to extend to Indian Corporations. 28.5.84 54. 102 Sec. 122(1) of the Code of Cr.P.C. Imprisonment for breach of Bond for keeping peace wHh sureties. 4.7.84 55. 103 Unfair terms in Contracts. j 5.8.84 56. 104 The Judicial Officers Protection Act. 17.10.84 I 57. lOS Quality Control and Inspection of Consumer Goods. 31.10.84 ss. 106 Sec. I03A Motor Vehicle Act, 1939 Effect of Transfer of a Motor Vehicle on Insurance. 5.12.84 59. 107 Law of Citizenship 5.12.84 60. 168 Promissory Estoppal. 14.12.84 61. 109 Obscene and Indecent Advertisement and Dis- plays Sec. 292-293 I.P.C. 1.2 8S 62. 110 The Indian Succession Act, 1925 27.2.85 63. 111 The Fatal Accident Act, 1855 16.5.85 64. 112 Sec. 45 of the I nsurance Act, 1938 11.6.85 65. 113 Injuries in Police Custody. 30.7.85 Stateaaeat D (i) establishing. extending aDd strengthening in rural areas tbe (Particulars in respect of Part (d) of institution of Nyaya Pancbayats the question) or other mechanisms for resol. ving disputes ; TERMS OF REFERENCE IN THE CONTEXT OF STUDYING (ii) setting up of a system of partici- JVDIOAL REFORMS patory justice with defined juris diction and powers in suitable areas and centres: 1. The nerd for decentralisation or the .y.tem of administration of justice (iii) establishing other tiers of .ya- by- tclD1 withi~ the jud~~1 .blpr- 273 Written Answer, SRAVANA " 1908 (SAKA) Written AnlWers 214 arcby to reduce the volume of Ia,estment in Coal Industry work in the Supreme Court and the High Courts. 1677. DR. B. L. SHAILESH : WiJl the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : 2. The matters for which Tribuna)s (~xc)uding services Tribunals) as en- (a) the total amouo t invested in the visaged in Part XIV -A of the Cons- coal industry in the public sector; titution need to be established expeditiously and various aspects (b) the cumulative loss sustained by related to their establishment and it; working. (c) the reasons therefor; and 3. The procedural laws with a view generally to disposing of cases ex- (d) the steps being taken to set peditiously, eliminating unnecessary matters right? litigation and delays in hearing of cases and reform in procedures and THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI procedural laws and particularly to VASANT SATHE): (a) The investment devising procedures appropriate to (loan+equity) by the Central Government the terms envisaged in items l(i) as on 31-3-1986 in Coal India Limited was and 1 (ii). Rs. S566.93 crores excluding repayments during 1985-86. 4. The method of appointments to subordinate courts/subordinate judi- (b) The accounts of Coal India Limi- ciary. ted and its subsidiaries for the year 1985- 86 have not yet been finalised. The cumu- lative Josses of Coal India Limited as OD S. The training of judicial officers. 31-3-1985 stood at Rs. 121S.86 crores. 6. The role of the legal profession in (c) and (d). Losses have been mainly strengthening the system of admini- due to tbe unsatisfactory performance of stration of justice. Eastern Coalfields Limited and Bharat Coking Coal Limited due to difficuJt geog- raphical and geomining conditions and 7. The desirability of formulation of where bulk of production is from under- the norms which the Government ground mines in which the cost of produc- and the public sector undertakings tion is high, coupled with inherent problem should follow in the settlement of of inefficient and erratic power supply, disputes including a review of the large labour force, law and order problems present system for conduct of litiga- etc. tion on behaJf of tbe Government and such undertakings. Various measures being adopted to in- creas production and improve productivity in the coal companies include opening of 8. The cost of litigation with a view to new mines, fuller utilisation of mining lessening the burden on the liti- gants. capacity already created, more efficient use and better maintenance of equipment, stricter control of inventory and economy 9. Formation of an AU India judicial in the use of stores, better use of man- Service ; and power by controlling absenteeism and enforcing discipline and identification of 10. Such other matters as the Commis- surplus workers and their redeployment sion considers proper or necessary after suitabJe training, better availability for the purposes aforesaid or as of scarce inputs like explosives, timber may be referred to it from time to etc., reduction in pit-head stocks by faster time by the Government. movement and more systematic distribu- c 215 W,itten A1uwe" JULY 29, 1986 Written"""', 216 tion, expeditious and timely completion THE MINISTER OF STA TB IN THB of neW projects and improvement in law DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DBVB- and order situation. LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (e). The information is beiol collec- Besides, the performance of the coal ted from various Ministries dealiDI with companies is reviewed by the Government Development Councils for different indus- from time to time and coal companies are tries and will be laid on the Table of the advised suitably to take remedial/correc- House in due course. tive measures to impro\ e their perfor- mance. Expansion of HMT anit at Kalamauel'J The Coal India Limited and Eastern in KerBla Coalfields Limited have been directed to implement the decisions of the Govern- ment 011 the various recommendations of 1679. SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHA· the Chari Committee appointed by the VAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY Government to enquire into the working be pleased to state: of Eastern Coalfields Limited. Government have appointed a (a) whether it is a fact that there has Committee under the Chairmanship of Shri been no expansion of the HMT unit at A. N. Banerjcre, former Chairman-eum- KaJamassery in Kera]a ever since its incep- Managing Director, Central Mine Planning tion; and Design lnstitute Limited to enquire into tbe working of Bharat Coking Coal (b) whether Government of Kerala Limited and suggest remedial measures for have sent any proposal for the expansion improving its performance. The report of of this unit; the Committee is awaited. De\'elopmeDt CoaDcils for lodastries (c) if so, the details thereof; and 1678. DR. B. L. SHAILESH: Will (d) the decision of Government the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to thereon? state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the names of the industries for DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER· which Development CouDcils exist at pre- PRISES (PROF. K. K. TEWARY): sent and of indusfries for which such (a) No, Sir. Couocils are likely to be set up in the near foture; (b) and (c). The State Government had proposed expansion of HMT, Kala- (b) the role assigned to these Coun- massery. A copy of letter No. 7179/J2/85/ cils and their utility and the extent of ID, dated 105.1986 from the Commissioner expenditure borne by Government OD tbeir and Secretary to Government of Kerala to maintenance; the Secretary, Ministry of Industry, Government of India is laid on the Table (c) tbe manner in which tbe represen- of the House. [Placed in Library. Set No. tatives of the industries concerned are selected and appointed to these Councils; L T -2859/86J (d) whether some of these Councils (d) Expansion of the unit has to be have almost become dormant or inactive; a corporate decision, HMT has no pIau aDd for further expansion of the unit durinl the 7th Plan. However. divenificatioD of (e) if 10. detai), thereof aad the .teps products is envisaged durin, the Plan proposed to be taken either to revive or period in addition to modernisation and c10ac them down ? replacement from year to... year • Written AnlWe" SRAVANA 7" 1908 (SAKA) Pro,..1 for setting Up undertaking In for location of its units in Idukki district. CeDtnl Sector In Keral. One letter of intent has been issued and other two applications have been rejected. 1680. SHR! V. S. VIJAYARAGHA. No app1ication has been received in respect VAN: of Wynad District. SHRIK.MOHANDAS: Voting rights to DOD-resideDt Indleu Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be J)leased to state : 1682. PROF. P. J. KURIEN: WiD the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be (8) whether Government of Kerala pleased to refer to tbe reply given to have sent proposals to the Union Govern- Unstarred Question No. 3171 on 16th ment for setting up undertakings in the April. 1985 regarding right to vote by Central Sector; Indians living abroad and state : (b) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether the matter has since been (c) the decision taken thereon? examined; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- (b) if so, the decision taken? PRISES (PROF. K. K. TEWAR Y) : (a) to (c). - Iriformation IS being collected and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE will be laid on the Table of the House. MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SURI H R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) and Setting up of Industries in No-Industry (b). The matter is still under examination Districts of Kerala and final decision is yet to be taken. The views of other concerned Ministries like 1681. PROF. P. J. K URIEN Will the Ministry of Finance, Ministry of Hom\! the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Affairs and the Ministry of External state : Affairs ha ve been obtained and the matter is being processed. whether Government of KeTala have submitted any scheme for starting industries in 'No-l ndustry' districts of the L. P. G. Bottliag Pluts State: 1683. SHRI MA TI JAY ANTI PAT- (b) if so, details thereof and Govern- NAIK: Will tbe Minister of PETRO- ment's reaction thereto; LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : (c) whether any applications for set- ting up of industries in these districts are pendina clearance with Government; (a) whether some public sector oil and companies have taken steps to set up LPG bottling plants in the country; (d) if so, details thereof? (b) if so the number of LPG bottling THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE plan ts proposed to be set up by tho public DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- sector oil companies, company-wise; LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) to (d). There are two 'No-Industry' (c) the sites identified therefor, State- districts in Kerale Idukki and Wynad. wise; and During the period 1983 to date, the (d) the details of the proposal of these Kerala State Industrial Development oil companies is regard to the establish- Corporation Limited have submitted three ment of LPG bottling plants durin, tho applicatieal for traDl of Letter. of latent Seventh Plan ? 279 Written A.II8WBI JULY 29, 1986 280 ,THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB . (c) The locations at which these DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND bottling plants are being set up are given MINISTBR OF STATB IN THE MINIS- in the Statement beJow. TRY OF PBTROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (d) These bottliDI plants are expected (a) Yes, Sir. to be commissioned by 1988. LPG Phase IV Project, which wiU cover the remaining (b) IOC 16 years of the Seventh Plan also, is presently under formulation. BPC 14 HPC 19 49 Statement Narne 0/ the Oil Co. SI. No. Location with State 1 2 3 Indian Oil Corporation Ltd. 1. Hazira (Gujarat) 2. Jamsbedpur (Bibar) 3. Durgapur (West Bengal) 4. Swai Madhopur (Rajasthan) 5. Madanpur (Delhi) 6. Tikrikalan (Delhi) 7. lCanpur (Uttar Pradesh) 8. bjkot (Qujarat) 9. Bhopal (Madhya Pradesb) 10. Varanasi (Uttar Pradesh) 11. Karnal (Haryana) 12. Balasore (Orissa) 13. Ajmer (Rajalthan) 14. Parvaooo (Himachal Pradesb) If',ltt;iI h.rt;e;; 9RAVAifA 7.lb (SAKA) ""llIen Amwe" 282 1 2 3 15. Haldwani (Uttar Pradesh) 16. Dehra Dun (Uttar Pradesh) Bharat Petroleum Corpa- 1. Mangalore (Karnataka) ration Ltd. 2. Uran (Maharasbtra) 3. Asaoti (Haryana) 4. Jabalpur (Madhya Pradesh) 5. Sho1apur (Maharasbtra) 6. JaJgaon (Mabarasbtra) 7. Ambala (Haryana) 8. Trivandrum (Kerala) 9. Tuticorin (Tamil Nadu) 10. Lucknow (Uttar Pradesh) 11. Hissar (Haryana) 12. Kburda (Orissa) 13. Jaipur (Rajasthan) 14. Bareilly (U Uar Pradesh) Hiodustan Petroleum Corpo- 1. Mysore (Karnataka) artion Ltd. 2. Hubli (Karnataka) 3. Jammu (Jammu & Kashmir) 4. Goa (Goa) s. Aurangabad (Mabarashtra) 6. Cbandrapur (Maharasbtra) 7. Srinagar (Jammu &: Kashmir) 8. Khurda Road (Orissa) 9. lind (Haryana) 10. Visakb (Audhra Pradesh) 2.3 fYrJlt ... An.r1Verl JULY~. t986 I 2 3 11. CharlapaUi (A ndhra Pradesh) 12. Vijaywada (Andhra Pradesh) 13. Miraj (Maharashtra) 14. Raipur (Madhya Pradesh) IS. Calcutta (West Bengal) 16. Gandhinagar or Modessa (Gujaraf~ 17. Chingalpet (Tamil Nadu) 18. Nuh (Haryana) 19. Gorakhpur (Uttar Pardesh) Total 49 Extensiye Wing of National Institute Ministry for purchase of special rigs from of Design in Kerala America for oil exploration in desert areas which has been rejected by it; 1684. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) whether it is also a fact that an (a) whether the Government of KeraJa alternative proposal put forward by oil has suggested that the National InslJtule India Limited to hire the special rigs for of Design set up an extension wing in drilling in desert areas is pending with Kerala; and the Ministry; and (b) if so the decision taken thereon? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, the time by which decision DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- will be tdken so as to speed up the gas LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): and oil exploration work in the area? (a) No such proposal has been received in the department of Industrial Develop- ment. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI· (b) Does not arise. STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETRO.LEUM AND NATURAL GAS (TraulDtiolf] (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): Pardaase/Hire of Rigs (or Drilling (a) No sir. The purchase of the rig has in Desert Areas beeD postponed by OIL due to the reduc- tion in its 7th PJan Outlay. 1685. SHRI VIR-DHI CHANDER lAIN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to (b) No Sir• • tate : (a) whether it is a fact that Oil India UtDked put forward a proposal to hi. (c) DocI not arise. Written Answers Writ/en Answer, CoDBtraction of Residential Quarters to be constructed are indicated in State- for Employees of Posts " Telecomm· ment I and II below. aaications Departments in Bihar (c) Due to budgetary constraints on 1686. SHltI KALI PRASAD a year to year basis and the need for PANDEY: Will the Minister of COMMU- balancing various interests as also to meet NICA'TIONS be pleased to state: the demand for funds for other important sectors of economy, it is not possible to (a) whether there is shortage of lay down any time-frame for achieving residential quarters/flat for the employees the target of 100% satisfaction in regard of posts and telecommunications depart- to staff quarters. ments in Bihar and if so whether Govern- ment are taking steps to construct quarters Statement I for them at some places; Number 01 Quarters proposed to be Cons- (b) the names of places where resi- tructed by Department 01 Telecom. dential quarters/fiats are proposed to be Year-wise in Bihar Telecom. constructed and the expenditure likely to be Circle during 1986-87 incurred thereon during the current year as and 1987-88 also the outlines of the scheme chalked out for the next year; and (c) the time by which accommodation Name of place No. of Quarters is likely to be provided to all tbe employees of these departments? 1. Bokaro 22 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 2. Raochi 6 (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) No, Sir. Efforts are being made on a 3. Daltonganj 24 continuing basis to construct more quarters at various places in Bihar Postal and 4. Gaya 8 Telecommunications Circles depending upon the extent to which funds are made 5. Monghyr 13 available, availability of suitable land, etc. 6. Jamshedpur 16 (b) Subject to availability of funds, lands. etc., it is proposed to construct 266 7. M uzaffarpur 36 staff quarters in Bihar Telecommunication Circle during 1986-87 and 1987-88 at an 8. Forbesganj 12 approximate cost of Rs. 149.59 lakhs. Out of this amount Rs. 65.86 lakhs are 9. Purnea 9 proposed to be spent during 1986-87 and Its. 83.73 lakhs during 1987·88. In Bihar 10. Katihar 13 Postal Circle subject to availability of funds it is proposed to construct approximately 11. Madbubani 27 31 quarters during 1986-87 and 50 quarters during 1987·88 at a total cost of about Rs. 12. Biharsharif 13 21.22 lakhs. Out of this amount Rs. 8 laths are proposed to be spent during 1986- 13. Patoa 44 87 and the rest during 1987·88. The figures for 1987·88 in respect of Bihar Postal Circle 14. Darbhaoga 23 ar" based on tbe assumption tbat the allocation of funds for 1987·88 is at tbe level of allocation of funds made during Total 266 tile current year. Circle·wise particulars of places at wbich quarters are proposed Written Answer; JutY 29, 1986 nrritien J.I~e" Statement II (b) if so, the time by which such elec- tronic exchanges will start functioning in Number of quarters proposed to be cons- Patns, Bhagalpur, Ranchi, Jamshedpur, tructed by Department of Posts in Chhapra-Gopalganj, Sonepur and other Bihar Circle Year-wise. major cities ; A. 1986·87 (c) the details of expenditure to be incurred under this head during this year and next year ; and Name of place No. of Quarters (d) if no, such proposal has been mooted, how Ion&. will Bihar continue to 1. Daltonganj 12 be deprived of this tltility ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 2. Patna 6 MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and 3. Giridih 6 (b). It has bten p]anned to set up elec- tronic exchanges at Patna and Ranchi 4. Ranchi 6 in addition to Gaya during the 7th Plan s. Saharsa 1 period. 10,000 Hnes digital electronic exchange planned for Patna is expected to be com· Total 31 missioned in tbe next three years. A 2000 lines digital electronic exchange B. 1987-88 is expected to be commissioned at Ranchi during 1988-89. Further expansion of this 1. Palna 16 exchange by 1000 lines is planned for commissioning during 1989-90. 2. Soaraba 18 3. Hinoo 5 At Jamshedpuf, Bhagalpur, Cbhapra, Gopalganj and Sonepur, the existing ex. 4. Sonopur 6 changes will be expanded to clear the present waiting Jist. s. Muzaffarpur 1 (c) While no expenditure is likely to 6. Daltonganj 4 be incurred during the current year, an expenditure of Rs. 20.00 crores approx. is likely to be incurred during the next Total so year (1987-88). (d) Does not arise in view of reply at (a) and (b) abo.ve. Setting up of Electronic Telephone Esdaaages in Bihar [English] 1687. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: Purchase of Crude Oil Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: 1688. SHRI E. A YYAPU REDDY: Wi)J tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND (a) whether a proposal f(\f setting up NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: ~Jectronic telephone exchanges in tbe big citits of Bihar is under the consideration (a) the total quantity of crude oil ()f Government ; purchased by India in 1985 ; WrItten Awer., SRA VANA 'I, 190a (SAi(:A) Written A1I8Wei" (b) the rates at which it was purchas- (b) the number of operators engaged ed from various countries; and by Indian Oil Corporation to 8ub-distri- bute refined oil to various retail centres Cc) whether there are proposals to and whether any uniform rate per kilo- purchase crude oil hereafter on barter metre has been fixed as transport charges ; system 1 and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the safeguards taken to prevent DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND adu Jteration of oil during transport by MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- road as well as rail ? TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHJLA ROHTAGI) : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) A quantity of 14.3 MMT of crude oil DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND was purchased during 1985. MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (b) The crude oil was purchased (a) Percentage of petroleum products against term contract from various count- carried by rail and road during the year ries at tbe following price during 1985 : 1985-86 is estimated to be 48.1 and 31.6 respectively. Country FOB Price (b) The number of operators/con- <$/barrel) tractors engaged by Indian Oil Corpora- tion for the purpose is 2278. There is no uniform rate per mile applicabJe to aU Iraq 28.00 locations, and that transportation rates are fixed for the con tract period by calling Iran 27.60 tenders and subsequent negotiations, if any. Saudi Arabia 28.00 (c) Steps taken to prevent adultera- USSR 28.05 tion of oil during transport by road and rail include : UAB 28.05 (i) Use of pilfer-proof numbered Oman 28.00 plastic seals for all delivered supplies. Algeria Sold out in the market (ii) Permitting deaJers' representatives Nigeria Swapped with PO crude to travel in the tank-truck carry- ing the products to dealers' pre- mises. (c) Certain trade-linked deals are (iii) Checking/testing of the quality ot considered if the terms are advantageous product received at storage points to the country. before decanting. TraD8portatioD of Oil by RaU and Road (iv) Taking strict action such as black- listing against the contractors in- 1689. SHRI E. A YY APU REDDY: dulging in malpractices. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to (v) Advising customers to carry out state: filter paper test before decanting products into their tanks. Ca> the percentale of refined oil transported by rail to the various distribu- (vi) Encouraging dealers to take up tion centres as apinst the percentaae of transport contracts for deJivered oil transported b>, road ; supplies. Written .4",.." (vii) Strict supervision by railway staff (b) if 80, Whether such a field tntiDI to check against tampering with centre is proposed to be started in Guj•• ~iI tank wagons while in transit. rat; and Fixiag of rates of Natural Gas Cc) if so, the name of the place and possible year of its opening ? 1690. SHRI RANJITSINGH GABK- WAD : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVB· state : LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) No, Sir. Four Regional Testing Centres (a) whether it is a fact that rates of located at New Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta Natural Gas are fixed by the Oil and and Madras already exist under S.I.D.O. Natural Gas Commission on the basis of crude oil at the well head; (b) and (c). A field Testing Station at Ahmedabad in Gujarat under the over· (b) whether Governments of Maha- all control of R TC, Bombay bas already {ashtra and Gujarat have protested against been established for testing of dye.stuffs the excessive rates; and dye-intermediates. (c) jf so, whether Government pro- pose to consider fixing the rates of gas on Delicensing of Bulk Drugs parity with the ra tes of coal ; and 1692. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA (d) if not, the reasons thereof? NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINIS- TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) the number of bulk drugs which PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS have been deHcensed by Government (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): during 1985-86; (a) No, Sir. (b) the reasons of deJicensfog those (b) Governments of Maharashtra and bulk drugs; Gujarat have protested to ONGC against the price being demanded by the Commis- (c) whether Government are contem- sion for the gas supplied to Maharashtra plating many other bulk. druBS for deUcen· State Electricity Board and Gujarat Elec- sing ~ and tricity Board. (c) and (d). The issue of pricing of (d) if so, details thereof? natural ps for various uses is UDder Government's consideration. THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB Settiag .p of regioaal Testing Centre ID DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Cujarat DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- CHALAM) : (a) 94. 1691. SHRI RANJITSINGH GAEK· WAD : Win tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (b) In consonance with overall Government policy of simplifyinl proce- (a> wbether any reaionaJ teltins cen- dures and aimulatiol industrial arowth. tres for tetting electrical, electronic, metal- luraical and mechanical ODd-products of .maD scale unila are proposed to be (c) aod (d). No, Sir. Doll DOt • tatted ; arise • Written ~n.nrer. Production of Low Cost Energy from (b) if so, the reasons thereof; NOD-Coa,eDtlo ... EBerlY Sources (c) whether it is a fact that this pub. 1693. SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN : lications was being run on no profit DO loss Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased basis and its publication did not put any to state : extra financial burden on the exchequer; and (a) tbe outcome of the steps taken by Government so far to produce low cost (d) whether Government are consi- energy for the rural population from the dering revival of this publication? nOD-coD\'entional sources of energy like wind-mills, solar energy and bio-gas THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE under the Integrated Rural Energy Pro- DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- gramme: PRISES (PROF. K.K. TBWARY): Ca) and (b). Yes, Sir. The publication bas (b) whether various schemes drawn been discontinued in the interest of up so far by the Union and State Govern- economy in Government expenditure. ments have only touched the fringe of the problem ; and (c) It is not correct to say that the publication did not put extra financial (c) the concrete steps taken or pro... burden on the exchequer. While OD an prosed to be taken for making available average, the direct expenditure incurred energy through these sources to the vast on publication of the journal was recoyer- rural population during the Seventh Five ed through subscriptions and advertise- Year Plan? ment charges, the expenditure incurred on establishment Le. on saJaries, allowances, THE ~fIN]STER OF ENERGY (SHRI etc. of concerned officers and staff was not VASA NT SATHE) : (a) to (c). The projects set up thus far have been success- met by subscriptions and advertisements ful in providing thermal energy including charges received. cooking energy, mechanical power, and (d) No such proposal is presently electricity for various applications. As a under consideration. result of the encouraging experilnce of the projects aJready set up. a Jarger pro- gramme has been initiated in the Seventh Report of NationaJ Apex Committee Five Year Plan to establish a number of on Petrochemicals Urja Gram (energy village) projects in 1695. SHRI Y.S. MAHAlAN: Will different parts of the country. The phas- the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased ing of this will, however depend on the to state : financial resources made available. Some schemes, such as biogas and improved cbulbas have already spread in large num- (a) whether the National Apex Com- bers in the countryside and have started mittee on Petrochemicals has prepared a making an impact in improving the quality Jong term perspective plan for developioa of life of the rural populations. the industry by the year 2000 ; Re'fj,al of Jouraal 'Lok UdyOl' OD (b) if so what are its major recom- Public: Eaterprises mendations and the steps Government have taken or propose to tate for their 1694. SHRI Y. S MAHAJAN: Will implementation ; the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (c) if Dot, when the report of the Committee is expe~ted to become avail- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Family Courts established under the DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE· Family Courts Act, 1984 ; LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Not yet, Sir. (b) the number of cases filed and disposed of under the Act, State and (b) Does not arise. Union Territory-wise; and (c) and (d). The Committee was set (c) whether any further categories of up in April, 1986 to draw up an integrated cases than the ones included under the Act development prQgramme for petro-chemi- are sought to be added? cal industry in a period of six months. The Committee is currently engaged in preparation of its report. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) Yes, Loss in Public Sector Units Sir. 1696. SHRI I. RAMA RAI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (b) As on 30.6.86, 1524 cases have been filed at the only family court set up state : at Jaipur and out of which 590 have since been disposed of. (a) the steps Government propose to take to improve tbe working of the public sector units; and (c) No, such proposal is under consi· deration of the Government. (b) the number of public sector units declared as sick units during the last year Consumption/Demand of Petroleum and their accumulated losses? Products in Eastern Region THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1698. SHRI AMAL DATTA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): (a) AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to The steps taken by the Government state : to improve the performance of the public enterprises improve inter-alia, regular monitoring of performance; up- (a) the consumption/demand of various gradation of technology; mod ernisation petroleum products in the Eastern Region, of Plant and Equipment wherever consi- with State-wise and item-wise break-up; dered necessary; diversification of pro- ducts; provision of balancing facilities; (b) to what extent the actual demand emphasis on training and retraining of exceeds the supply due to non-availability personnel; encouraging labour participa- of any of the items, State-wise; and tion in management and improvement of productivity and efficiency thereby facili- (c) the sources from which the sup- tating cost reduction and cost control plies are made to the various States of the etc. region, refinery-wise break-up and figures of imports if any ? (b) No public sector units have been declared sick during the last year. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND Disposal of cases under Family Courts Act MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL 1697. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : Wi)) the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE (a) The consumption of major petro- be pleased to state : leum products in the Eastern RelioD during the years 1984·85 and 1985-86 State- (a) whether his Ministry had made Wise/product-wise is given in the State- assessment of the functioning of the ment I below. 291 Written AnNer, SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 298 (b) The demand for free sale products Import of finished products for the like MS and HSD has been met in full month of June, 1986 are as under :- and there has been no scarcity of such Figs. in '000' MT petr10leum products in the Eastern Region during 1985·86 but for spot problems such HSD 23.0 as local civil disturbances, flash-strikes, SKO 111.5 etc. The supply of kerosene has been generally according to the allocations Out of the above foHowing cargos made to the States/Union Territories in were delivered at HaJdia/Budge-Budge for this region. consumption in the region and surpluses to be carried further from Haldia to Kanpur through Haldia-Barauni-Kanpur pipelines :- (c) The Refinery-wise distribution Figs. in '000' MT plan for the region differs from month to month depending upon supply/demand Haldia balance of the refinery. The distribution plan for the month of June, for the 1986 HSD 19.0 refineries in the region is given in the attached Statement II below. SKO 82.8 299 """611 ,,4111W1'8 JULy 29.1* Wrltte1l A.",.", .~ '0 00 C\ 01 \0 ~ 01 0 V) V') V') .... 00 tr') ("II • 00 0 .... 8 J 0\ • '" 00 l"'- I"'- I" ~ 0\'" t"f') 00 '0 .... • .... tra 0 00 0 ~ '"I V') .... ; tra ~ 0 8 SV') V') • 00 .... ~ 00 t"f') ~ '0 ~ 01 ~ ("II ...... """ '"~ ~ \0 ~ ~ 00 _, .... ~ ~ 00 0 ~ 00 0 ~ N • N 0 ~ 01 N N" If') 0 \0 00 I" N ~ '"0\ ~ .... '"...... 0 V\ 00 Q tf"'I N N tr') 0 00 co 00 0 N ff") ~ ~ ~ • ~ .... ~ .... ~ ~ N N 0\ 0\ 00 '" 0\ ""00 8 0\.... I" ....0 ....'" 00 ff") 00 N ~ ~ \0 \0 0\ 0'\ 00 ('II \I:) tf"'I \I:) ~ ~ 0 00 ~ '" '" r-- ~" .... I 0\ 00 N 0-. 8 00 N ~ - ,.,.. \I:) M ff") 0 00 0 0\ 0'\ tf"'I " ...... '" \0 00'" " 0'\.... ""('II 00" N ~ - ... Q ~ \0 I" fIl 00 ~ \I") ~ N r- I V\ 0 \0 0 00 00 M 00 0'\ t"- o N 0 \I:) 15 ~ :c N t"- M I:"- M N N tJ ~ '" N V'I \0 ~ N I:"- ~ 0\ M tf"'I - 00 0\ " N .... 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"0 &0 -=v ::s... ~ I: .CI.CI- a as c. a; as e uas GOu &0 a ... r.n -= ...... c .§ ::s ...0 &0 tr) ...flO Q CD Coo I i ..lI4 C. ::s as .~ O'J .c ..: u tU u as ..:MI ...... < = 0 ~ 2 ~ z (Ii fS <~ ~ W,ltten Auwer, SRAVANA 1, 1908 (SAKA) W,ltten Answer& o lie o Q ~ o ~ en z4( Z I.oa 0 ATF NAN SKO HSD LDO FO MS LSHS ••• ~ Gauhati Gauhati BRPL/ Khotkhati RLY-NGHT Badarpur Gauhati Badarpur ASEB ::;-..• SPL-CUT Badarpur Khotkhati Ghat Nowgong Ghat Chand- '"~ Ghat, N. Silchar Gauhati B. Charali N. Lakhimpur pura ~ •..~ Lakhimpur Badarpur B. Charali Missamari ~ Gauhati Ghat, RLY- Nowgong Gauhati ;;:'" LUMDING Dharamnagar Haldia Kalaikunda REP, Namkum/ OBRA OBTA TPS Namkum/ TPS HINDALCO Ranchi •... Namkum/ Rourkela Ranchi c:: Ranchi Visakha Tatanagar RLY-Bokaro! R. Koot Tatanagar e- Bhubaneshwar, (Tanker) Rourkela SER RLY- Chandrapura Rourkela ><: Charbatia (Rd) Balasore Hijli, RLY/ Bokaro- Balasore .~"-> B/Budge Haldia Barnongathi Steel Plant Haldia :D Portblair Namkum/ RLY-Hinjli 00 (Tanker) Ranchi PIM Cus- '" Tatanagar toruer, HFC RLY-Hatia Durgapur, TISCO, TlSCO, Rourkela Burupur B/Budge Hind Balasore Ghatshka ~ TELCO. ~ TISCO ~'" Rourkela ••~ HSL, Rour- kela,OCL 0:i Rajpo8Pur ~-.<-: »r- •• ' 305 Written Answers SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers Power Generating Capacity of Chukha (b) A feasibility report on Chukha Hydel Power Project Hydel Project for Stage-If was received from Chukha Hydro Electric Project 1699. SHRI AMAL DATTA Will Authorities by the Government of India the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to in April, 1983. state : (c) The feasiblility report visualized (a) the power generating capacity detailed investigation for Stage-If Project of the Chukha Hydcl Project during dif- consisting of 40 meter high diversion dam ferent months of the year month-wise; with adequate diurnal pondage, 20 Km. long headraee tunnel and an underground (b) whether any study has been made as power house with an installed capacity of to whether a second hydcl project on the 1000 MW and annual energy benefits of same river is technically feasible; 5490 million units on an average. As per preliminary assessment contained in that (c) if so, the main features thereof feasibility report, the cost of the project with details of generating capacity, cost was expected to be Rs. 600 crores and of construction and cost of generation; cost of energy generation at 14.35 paise/ and Kwh. (d) whether any steps to formulate, (d) Government of India have indi- sanction and implement a second Chukha cated their willingness to the Royal Hydel Project have been taken by Government of Bhutan to take up investi- Government ? gations for Chukha Hydel Project Stage-If if the Royal Govt. so desires. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND Application for setting up Industries in MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Idukki (Kera1a) TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : 1700. PROF. P. J. KURIEN Will (a) As per the latest revised estimates, the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to the month-wise energy benefits from the state: Chukha project (4 x 84 MW) are estimated as under:- (a) whether the Idukki district of Kerala is a "No Industry District"; Month Energy Potential (b) whether Government have recei- (Gwh) ved applications for setting up Industries in this district; April 142.75 (c) if so, the details thereof; May 142.75 (d) whether licences have been gran- June 246.80 ted in those cases; and July 246.80 August 246.80 (e) the special assistance being given September 246.80 by the Centre for the industrial develop- October 246.80 ment of this district? November 142.75 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE December 142.75 DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL January 73.00 DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- February 73.00 q-IALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. March 73.00 (b) to (d). During 1983 to 1986 (24.7.86) five applications have been Annual Energy 2024.00 received for setting lip industries in Idukki 307 Wrltte" dMWr. JULY 29, 19a6 Wrllle" A",wu, 308 district. Two Letters of Intent ba ve been (b) if so, the .extent tber~of, year- issued and the remaining three applications wise; were rejected. (e) The details .of concessions/incen- tives admissible to entrepreneurs (or set- (c) the production during 1985·86 as ting up industries in 'No Industry Dis... against the target fixed by the Govern- trict,9, are given in the booklet on U incen- ment; and tives for industries in backward Areas (Central Government and Central Finan- cial Institutes) April, 1984" read with this Ministry's Press Note No. 14/2/83-DBA-I dated 9.4.1985, copies of which are avail- (d) whether Government have identi- able in Parliament Library. fied the causes for the decline in the per- formance ofl, the HMT and also steps taken Performance of H.M.T. Ltd. to improve its working? 1701. SHRI H. B. PATIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- (a) whether there has been a decline PRISES (PROF. K. K. TEWARY) in the performance of the HMT Ltd. dur- (a) to (d). A statement is atta~hed. ing the last three years; Statement Referred to in reply to parts (a) to (d) 0/ Lok Sabha Unstarred Question No. 1701/or 29.7.1986 The figure of actual production. sales and profit (before tax) for the last three years are given below : (Rs. in Crores) Year Production Sales Profit (before tax) 1983-84 307.42 323.01 32.53 1984·85 333.14 324.80 23.4S 1985-86 360.29 362.88 8.00 The actual production during 1985-86 revision of the Bonus Act limit and dear- was Rs. 360.29 crores as against a target ness aHowance neutraJization· rates, parti- of Rs. 393.15 crores. cular1y in 1985-86, were among the factors responsible for the faU in profitability. Unsatisfactory performance of the Machine A plan has been drawn up for rehabilita- Tools Division and Lamp Division, higher tion of the Lamp Division. In the Machine interest payments that the company had Tools Division, plant modernization and, to bear during the last few years due to product diversification has already been long gestation investments made in the taken up. Sixth PJan period, genera) revision in waaes and dearness allowance and upward 309 SRAVANA 7, lVOS (SAKA) 310 Co.t st ... by Bbreau 0( Industrial Costs (c) the reasons for the delay in com- and Prices pletion of remaining studies and tbe details of action taken on completed cost 1703. SHRI GANGA RAM: Win studies? the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (a) the details of studies undertaken DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL by the Bureau of Ind~trial Cost and DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA. Prices in 1984, 1985 anti 1986, at the CHALAM): (a) The details of studies behest of Government; undertaken by Bureau of Industrial Costs and Prices are as follows : (b) the details of studies which ha Vc completed so far; and No. 0/ Studies Undertaken Year Industrial Bulk Formulations Total Products Drugs 1984 34 20 1335 1389 1985 26 17 1369 1412 1986 J 1 10 1142 1163 (upto 22nd July) Studies under Progress as on 23.07.1986 24 7 225 256 (b) The details of studies completed so far are given below No. 0/ Studies Completed Year Industrial Bulk Formulations Total Products Drugs 1984 18 14 1320 1352 1985 22 23 1269 1314 1986 7 3 1032 1042 (upto 22nd July) 311 Written Answr, JULy 29, 1986 312 (c) The cost studies are all time Industrial ualts In Karnataka consuming. The Bureau of Industrial Costs , and Prices frames work plans for each 1705. SHRI SRIKANTA DAITA study depending on the extensive data to NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR : Will be collected, on-the-spot assessment to be the Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to made and other pr.ocedural formalities to state : be completed. The time involved varies with the subject of the study. There are (a) the number of proposals to set up no specific cases of delay in the comple- new industrial u!lits in Karnataka pending tion of studies. The study reports, on with GovernmenT; completion, are forwarded to the adminis- trative Ministries concerned which take (b) the details thereof; and further follow-up action. The Bureau's reports are advisory in nature and it is for (c) by when these are likely to be tho -concerned Ministries to comp1ete cleared? action thereon. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DE- Damage to machinery at Bishrampor mines VELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHA- of South-Eastern Coalfields Ltd. in LAM): (a) As on 23/07/1986, 36 Indus- Surguja, M.P. trial Licence applications received under the provisions of Industries (Development & Regulation) Act, 1951 for the grant of Letters of Intent for setting up industrial 1704. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI : undertakings in Karnataka were at various Will the Minister of ENERG Y be pleased stages of consideration. to state: (b) The details of pending Industrial Licence applications are not divulged till (a) whether it is a fact that machinery the Government have taken final decisions worth crores of rupees have been damaged thereon. at the Bishrampur mines of South-Eastern Coalfields Ltd. in Surguja district in (c) It is the constant endeavour of Madbya Pradesh; the Government to dispose of all pending Indur,trial Licence applications as expedi- tiously as possible. (b) if so, the causes of the damage to the machinery; Non-Conventional metbods of power generation (c) the approximate cost of these 1706. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI ! machinery; and Win the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (d) the details thereof? (a) which of the non-conventional methods of power generation are under active consideration of Government; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) to (d). Due to (b) whether in view of the fact that flash floods on 2S June 1986 there was abundant solar energy is available in the beavy inrush of water in Bishrampur open- country, Government contemplate import- cast mine of South Eastern Coalfields ing solar energy technology from developed Limited. Only some auxiliary items of countries so as to generate mass-scale solar equipment and not the main machinery energy in every nook and corner; and sustained damage. The damage fs estimated at Rs. 30,000/- only. Dewatering of tbe (c) the plans under active considera. mine has now been completed. tion of Government in this behalf? WrItten Answer, SRAVANA ',I 19oa (SAKA) Written Annver, ~14 THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Engineer Electricity Board has now pro- VASANT SATHE) : (a) Among the vided the supporting structure. The various forms of Don-conventional energy switch board cables have been laid across sources, major emphasis is being placed the river on these structures. The work on Biomass including bio-gas, agricultural, of connecting the s~itch board cable at industrial and urban waste, solar and wind both ends is in progress. But it is getting ellergy for power generation. d'elayed due to continuous heavy rains. (b) and (c). Government is deve1op .. The Military authorities have agreed ing and promoting solar energy technolo- to erect a Pantoon bridge and permission gies in order to bring down cost and will be taken from tbem to lay the cables improve efficiency and reliability. It is also along the bridge as a permanent keeping close watch on technological measure. developments taking place elsewhere. The question of inducting technologies from ExpeDditare incurred on Power GeneratioD developed countries is considered in the in Atomic Reactors and Hydel light of indigenous capability and develop- Generation Plants ments elsewhere. In general, the techno- logies developed in India are abreast of 1708. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: those available in the industriaHsed coun- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased tries. to state: Restoring Telephone Lines atJected (a) which conventional source of " by Collapse of Nehru Bridge power generation is the cheapest from the point of view of its cost benefit ratio ; 1707. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pJeased to state: (b) whether though hydel generation requires more initial investment, yet it (a) whether on account of the col- has very less burden of recurring expendi- lapse of Nehru Bridge on the river ture ; and Mandovi in the Union Territory of Goa, Daman and Diu, telephones lines connect- (c) whether in comparison to recur- ing Panaji with other northern parts of ring expenditure on thermal power gene- Goa, have been damaged ; and ration, the expenditure incurred on power generation in atomic reactors is cheaper (b) if so, steps proposed to restore as compared to dydel generation projects the vital communication system in tbe from the point of view of recurring ex- territory? penditure ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI- (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY Yes, Sir. 3 Cables (two of 200 pairs OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS each and one of 38 pairs) were snapped (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): due to sudden collapse of bridge on (a) Power generation from hydro- S.1.1986 affecting Telecommunications and electric sources is the cheapest conven- two JUDctions to Narul MAX-III, exchange tional source of power generation. in northern part of Goa connecting Panaji. (b) Yes, Sir. (b) Chief Secretary Goa State was (c) In the case of Atomic Power requested in a specially converned meeting Stations located far away from the coal to provide supports across the pp on the bearing areas, the recurring expenditure damaged bridge for overhead cables is less compared to the thermal poWer across the river for temporary restoration stations located in these areas. However, of the Communication system. The Chief the recurring expenses in the allC of hJcItl Wrltte" Answe,s JULY ~9. t98~ "'rillen AII",er, leneration would still be the lowest com- [English] pared to other conventional options for power seneration. Ib Valley Thermal Project iD Orl_ (Tran.dation] 1710. SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA : Fuactioniag 01 Telepbone Exchanges Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased in Delhi to state : 1709. SURf BHARAT SINGH: Will (a) whether the Ib Valley Thermal the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Proj ect in Orissa State bas been cleared pleased to state : by Government for its execution', (a) whether it is a fact that telephone exchanges of Najafgarh. NangJoi, Badli (b) if so, the details thereof and the and Narela in Outer Delhi area remain action taken or proposed to be taken for out of order for most of the time, due to its early execution; which telephone calls do not mature; (b) the time by which the expansion programme of these exchanges will be (c) whether the State Government undertaken to meet the increasing demand has sought financial assistance from the for telephone connections ; Union Government for its execution; if so, the reaction of Union Government (c) wbether Government have any thereto; scheme for providing telephone connec- tions in each village; and (d) whether World Bank assistance (d) if so, the time by which telephope will be made available for the project; if connections will be provided in villages ? so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (e) whether any other financial (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) agency has been approached; if so, the N.;afgarh. Nangloi. Badli and Narela details thereof? exchanges are of MAX-II type meant for catering to low traffic. Due to rapid Ifowtb of industries in the outer periphery THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB of Delhi, heavy traffic is being generated DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINI· by the subscribers of these exchanges. STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS ~lle Dopartment is seized of the problems heiD, faced by the subscribers and making (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (e). The proposal to set up the' ell out eiforts to provide better service. The performance of these exchanges is 4 X 210 MW Ib Valley thermal power project in Sambalpur district of Orissa boina rogularly monitored. has been techno-economi<:ally cleared by ~ (b) The existing exchanges at these the Central Electricity Authority. Central places are proposed to be replaced by assistance is provided to the States in the electronic exchanges and expanded to form of loans and block grants and is not clear the present waiting list in the next 3 related to any specific project. The pro- ject is not in the pipeline for World Bank years. assistance and no other financial institu- (c) There is no plan to provide tele- tion has been approached. There are "bone conncetion in each viJ1age due to preliminary offers of bilateral assistance constraints in resources. for the project from external sources. However, rupee resources have DOt y,t (d) In view of tbe (c), question does been tied up and the PlanldDI Contnlia. DOt arise. sion has not 10 far approved the proj~t. Wrltttn Answerl SR.AVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answerl 318 Broad-Banding of Industries (b) the foreign collaboration sought for in the fields of electrification of under- 1711. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will ground mines and te]emonitoring facilities the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to for some select large capacity open cast state : mines and washeries ; and (a) what are the guidelines laid down (c) the phased programme, if any, in the broad-banding of industries and the prepared in this behalf and the estimated names of the industries which have been capital outlay inolved ? broad banded recent ly ; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (b) which are the industries where VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes. Sir. both broad-banding and exemption under section 22A of the MRTP Act has been (b) and (c). Foreign cooperation has al10wed ; and been sought for electronification of under- (c) whether there exists any macha- ground mines and for providing telernoni- nism to monitor or assess the production, toring facilities in open cast mines given efficiency and price reduction from the below;- consumer's point of view achieved in the industries broad banded, if so, details 1. Electronification of J .K. Nagar thereof '1 underground mine, Eastern Coal- fields Ltd. w.ith the cooperation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of United Kingdom. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): 2. Electronification of Churcba (a) to (c). The main guidelines adop- underground mine of South ted for broad-banding of industries are: Eastern Coalfields Ltd. togetber (i) availability of common production with washery automation of facilities for several aggregates and (ii) Moonidih mine of Bharat Coking scope for flexibility in changing product.. Coal Ltd. with the cooperation mix ac~ording to demand. As a result, of Poland. broad-banding is expected to lead to better capacity utilisation, higher overall 3. Electronification of East Katras production and lower costs. Government underground mine of Bharat Cok- is constantly monitoring production, capa- ing Coal Ltd. with the coopera- city utilisation and prices in industry. tion of France. 4. A trial of total mine automation Industries and items to which the of Rajrappa open cast project of scheme of broad-banding has been applied Central Coalfields Ltd. is being are listed in Statement-I and, of these, envisaged in cooperation with the industries or certain items thereof Westar, Canada. which are eligible for exemption under section 22A of the MRTP Act are listed in Electronification of these mines have Statement II. [Placed in Library. See No. been envisaged to be completed by 1988. LT 2860/86] Total cost for all the mines is estimated to be between Rs. 25 to 30 crores. Plan to update underground and OpeD cast miaes by Coal India Limited U S. Company's Share in Cochin Refineries Ltd. 1712. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to 1713. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: state : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: <8> whether any plan bas been pre- pared by the Coal India Limited to the percentage of equity held by update its mines both underground and Philips Petroleum, the U.S. Oil Company open cast and increase their productivity ; in Cocbin Refineries Ltd. j juLY 29, 1986 Written AlUWs" (b) whether Philips Petroleum desires specific collieries, transportation of coal to to quit the Cochin Refineries Ltd. ; and power houses, singing of agreements bet- ween Coal India and State Electricity (c) if so, details thereof? Boards etc. The recommendations of the Committee have been examined and most THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of them accepted by Govt. The Coal DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND companies, Railways and other agencies MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- have been asked to take appropriate action TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL on the recommendations of the Committee. GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI : (a) 26.43%. (c) With a view to improve the quality (b) Government are not aware of of coal to be supplied to Thermal Plants any such decision by the Philips Petro- the underrnentioned research and Develop- leum Company. ment Projects have been sanctioned: (c) Does not arise. (i) A project titled "Trials of bene. ficiated non-coking coal from Nandan Washery at Satpura Ther- Supply of Poor Quality Coal to mal Power Station" is under Thermal Plants implementation. This envisages beneficiation of high ash non- 1714. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: coking coal from Pench Kanhan Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased area of WCL in the Nandan Washery. A committee will guide to state: and monitor the above trial and will study the benefits to the • (a) the details of tbe membership Thermal Power Stations . of the Committees under the Chairmanship of Sbri Mohammed Fazal which have (ii) Based on the satisfactory perfor- examined the reasons for supply of poor mance of the photometric ore quality coal to power houses; sorter with the Indian test coals in Canada for separating shales from run-or-mine coal so as to (b) the steps taken on the recommend- improve its quality, a proposal ations of the Committees; and is under consideration for instal- lation of a pilot plant with the photometric ore sorter to sort out (c) the saHent features of the new the shale/stones from the coal in schemes of research and development for dry state. improving the quality of coal suppJies to Thermal Plants? (iii) A project titled "Economic Bene- ficiation of Power Station Coal" THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI bas been taken up by Indo-German VASA NT SATHE): (a) The details of Joint Commission. Bina coal the membership of the Committee is given sample has been sent to West in the Statement below. Germany for studying the efficacy of commercially developed ROM jig for Indian coal. The project (b) The Committee under the Chair- report from West Germany is maDlbip of Shri Mohammed Faza 1 had still awaited. The specific advant- looked into the problems of coal suppJies ages of such an ROM jig are to Power stations and have made several reported to be ability to deal with recommendations covering various aspects 400-40 mm size coal. less water of coal supplies to Power Houses sucb as consumption and Jess space require- Unb,e. to be liyen to power stations from ment. ~rltten ~~;, Written AnlWer, 3ii Statement The details of the membership 0/ the Committee i, given as under 1 2 3 1. Shri Mohd- Fasal Chairman Member Planning Commission 2. Dr. S. Ramesh, Member Joint Secretary Department of Power (Dr. Ramesh retired in July' 83 He continued to participate as Member of the Committees till retirement). 3. Shri P. K. Lahiri, Member' Joint Secretary, Deptt. of Coal 4. Shri B. N. Bose Member Member (Operation) Central Electricity Authority (Shri B. N. Bose retired in April' 83) s. Shri L. R. Suri, Member (since May'83) Member (Operation) Central Electricity Authority 6. Shri R. P. Singh Member Director (Traffic & Transportation) Railway Board, (Shri Singh was replaced vide office Memo- randum No. EBBlj82j21/79 dated 16. 4. 83 by new incumbent by Sbri Madan Singh Member (from 16. 4. 83) Director (Traffic & Transport). Railway Board. 7. Shri M. Jha, Member Director (CP&P) Central Coalfields Limited, (now Director Tech), Coal India Ltd. 8. Shri M. P. Narayanan, Member Chief of Coal Marketing, Organisation, Coal India Limited, (Now Director Central Coalfields Ltd): 9. Shri N. R. Mitra, M ember Secretary Director (Technical), Central Mine Planning & Design Institute Ltd. Written A.nswers jutY 29, i 986 Import of Telecommunication THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Equipment MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes 1715. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will Sir. The Department is importing telecom the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Equipment during the current year, for pleased to state: meeting the demands of Telephone lines. (b) The items being imported are (a) whether Government are import- Telephone Cables Containerised Electronic ing telecommunication equipment on a Exchanges C-400 Crossbar Telephone large scale during the current year for Exchanges and Fetex Type Electronic meeting the demand for telephon'c lines; Exchanges etc. The details of such items are given in the Statement below. (b) , if so, the details thereof; and (c) Though the indigenous produc- tion of Telecom equipment is picking up, (c) what are the recsons for the there is a gap between demand and supply indigenous production r.ot picking up in resulting into imports to meet immediate this regard ? requirements. Statement Details of Telecom. Equipments being Imported Sl. No. Name of the Item Likely amount (FOB in crores of rupees) 1 2 3 ]. Underground Telephone Cables 15.00 2. Containerized Electronic Exchanges 8.00 3. C-400 Crossbar Exchanges 15.00 4. Fetex Type Electronic Exchanges 6.00 S. Inter-connecting Equipment for C-400 Crossbar Exchanges 13.00 Total 57.00 W,lllen Answers SRAVANA " 1905 (SAkA) WrItten Answers (Translation] strength of mail motor vehicles in the country in 1985-86 was 1047. Letter Boxes~iD the Country (b) 2,05,85,500 kilometres (Approx ). 1716. SHRI JITENDRA PRASA DA : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS Issue of Postal Stamps be pleased to state that the total number of letter boxes in the country as on 31 1718. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: March, 1986 ? Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) the denomination-wise and head- MJNISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS wise number of postal stamps ilsued (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): during 1985-86 ; and The number of letter boxes installed in the country as on 31 st March i986 is (b) the number of commemorative 4,95,143. st~rnps issued during 1985.86 and the value thereof? Postal Vans in the Country THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 1717. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : be pleased to state : (a) Programme for issue of commemora- tive/special stamps is chalked out for the (a) the number of postal vans in the Calendar Year and not for the financial country during 1985-86; and year. Anyhow, a list of postal stamps denomination-wise & subject-wise issued (b) the total mileage covered by from 1.4.1985 to 3J.3.86 is given in the them during this period ? Statement below. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) The number of cQmmemorative MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS stamps issued from 1.4.85 to 31.3.86 are . (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The 38 and the value is Rs. 52/-. Statement 81. No. Subject Denomination in paise .__ .... _----- 1 2 3 1. SO Years of Potato Research SO 2. Baba Jassa Singh Ahluwalia SO 3. St. Xavier's College, Calcutta 100 4. White Winged Wood Duck 200 5-6'. Bougainvillea SO, 100 7. Festival of India (Yaudheya Coin) 200 ..,...... ~ ~ W,itten Answer" 1 2 3 8. Didarganj Yakshi 100 9. Jairamdas Doulatram SO 10. Nellie Sengupta latindra Mohan Sengupta SO 11. Swami Haridas 100 12. Bord'!r Roads Organisation SO 13. 40th Anniversary of United Nations 200 14. Indira Gandhi-in the Service of the Nation 200 15. Children9 s Day SO 16. XIX General Assembly International Astronomical Union, New Delhi 100 17. Indira Gandbi-Priyadarshini 300 18. St. Stephen's Hospital, New Delhi 100 19. Kakasaheb Kalelkar 50 20-21. South Asian Regional Co-operation 100, 300 22. Sbyama Shastri 100 23. Master Tara Singh SO 24. Ra vishankar M aharaj 50 25. International Youth Year 200 26. Bach & Handel SOO 27 .. 30. Centenary of India Notional Congress (A set of Four Stamps) 100 each 31. Na val Dockyard, Bombay 250 32-33. INP EX-86 50, 200 34. INS Vikrant 200 35-36. 75th Anniversary of First Aerial Post SO, 300 37. 6th Trinnale-India-86 100 38. Cbaitnaya Mahaprabha 100 No. of Stamp 38 Value in R.I. 52/- 8RAV ANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answerl 330 Different Pay Scales for Test Category up power generation projects in the coun- and nOD-Test Category in Telegraph try; and Offices (b) if so, their number and the names 1719. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: of the parties issued licences? Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND (a) whether it is a fact that telegraph MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE MINIS- messengers working in the telegraph offices TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL In his Department come under test, cate- GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: gory while Jamadar, Farrash, Waterman (a) and (b). The utilities in the private etc. come in the non-test category and yet sector which have been granted licences the pay scales of both the category are to generate power are the Ahmedabad same; Electric Company Limited, Tara Electric Companies and the Calcutta Electricity (b) if so, the reasons therefor and Supply Corporation. Government bave the steps being taken by Government to also agreed in principle to the setting up provide pay scales for test category and of a power generating station by Bombay non-test category; and Suburban Electric Supply Limited. ' (c) jf not, the reasons therefor? World Bank Aid for EdamaJayar Hydro Electric Project in Kerala THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 1721 PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Yes, the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Sir, it is a fact that telegraph messengers state : working in telegraph offices in the Deptt. of Telecom. come under the test category while Jamadar, Farrash, Waterman etc. (a) whether World Bank will aid under the Non-test Category and their Edamalayar Hydro-electric proj ect ; and scale of pay of both these categories are same. (b) what is the estimated cost of this project? (b) and (c). The distinction between test category and non-test category staff THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in telegraph offices in the Depu. of Tele- DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND com. has been made to identify jobs MIN1STER OF STATE IN THE MINIS· which require some amount of literacy TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL lik Telegraphman, Peons etc. However, GAS (SHRIMA TI SUSH1LA ROHTAGI : no difference in pay scales has been made (a) There is no proposal for seeking since all these jobs fall under the normal World Bank assistance for Edamalayar category of basic group D. Staff. There Hydro Electric Project. are no proposals to provide different scale of pay for test and non-test category (b) The estimated cost of the project of staff. is Rs. 70 crores and Rs. 19 crores for power and irrigation components respecti- [English1 vely. Issue of LiceDces to Private Sedor Multinational 80uting toothpaste, for setting up Power Geaeration Powder laws Project 1720. SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI : 1722. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be to state: pJeased to state: (a) whether Government have issued (a) whether Government's attention licences to tbe Private Sector for settiDS bas been drawn to the news item "MNCs 331 Written AnlWers JULY 2', 1986 Written AIII_,., 332 flouting toothpaste, powder reservations (c) Power benefits will be sbared by lass" appearing in the "Economic Times" Maharashtra and Madhya Pradesh in the dated 18 June, 1986 according to which ratio of 1 : 2. lever"l multinational companies are gettiug ,ootbpaste and toothpowder products (d) The first unit of the Project is manufactured by small units and market- expected to generate power by August, ing them under their brand names ; and 1986, and the Second Unit by December, 1986. (b) if so, steps Government have taken to check it ? Raids agaiDst High Official of Posts and TeJegrapb Department THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 1724. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (8) Yes Sir. be ple~sed to state: (b) Marketing of products made by (a) whether it is a fact that there smaJl scale units does not constitute viola- have been massive raids against high tion of the policy of reservation of items officials of Posts and Telegraphs Depart- for manufacture in the small scale sector. ment which have revealed huge amount of movable and immovable properties in Commissioning of Pench Project jointly their narr.cs and the names of their famBy by Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra members; 1723. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI: (b) if so, the details thereof; and Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) the action taken/proposed by tbe Government? (a) the total MW of power to be generated on commissioning of Pench THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Hydro-electric Project jointly started by MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra ; (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) and (b). Various branches of C.B.I. carried (b) the estimated cost of the above out 26 searches at the residential and inter state hydro-electric project; office premises of 10 junior and middle level Gazetted officers (6 in Senior Time (c) the share.of electricity of Madhya Scale and 1 in Junior Time Scale of Group Pradesh and Maharashtra each as decided A and 3 in Group B) of the Departments by the two States; and of Posts & Telecommunications during' the period 1st of January, 1986 to 30th June, 1986. The foJJowing movable and (d) the expected time of the com- immovable assets were discovered during missioning of tbe various hYdro-electric the course of these searches :- projects under the joint project? (i) Cash, Bank balances, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE FDRs and NSCs... Rs. 46,440.00 DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- (ii) Movable assets like TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL jewellery, VCRs and GAS (SHR1MATI SUSHI LA ROHT AGI) : other costly items .•• Rs. 260,734.00 (8) Pench Hydro-electric Project, with installed generation capacity of 160 (iii) Immovable assets .. Rs. 130,000.00 MW, has an estimated annual energy Besides, some incriminating docu- potential of 398 Million Units. ments pertaining to financial transactions etc. were seized (b) As per latest estimates, the cost during the course of searches of tbe project is Rs. 143.53 crores. referred to above are under 333 Written A1I8tN" SRAVANA 7, '1908 (SAKA) W,itten Answer, 334 scrutiny. These searches were tern Region and Central Region. carried out in connection with One of the States in each Region the investigation of 9 cases alleg- will act as the nodal State. The ing possession of assets dispro- Boards will comprise of repre- portionate to the known sources sentatives of employees and of income, showing special workers, State Government/Union favour for a;)y, cheating, crimi- Territory and one representative nal misconduct etc., by various from Government of India. The branches of C.B.I. nodal State will be responsible for constitution of Boards, con .. (c) The cases are under further in- vening of meetings and corres- vestigation. pondence with Government of India. Sectoral Wage Policy for Public Sector Enterprises (ii) The Regional Minimum Wage 1725. SHRI K.V. SHANKARA Advisory Board will fix regional GOWDA ': Wil1 the Minister of minimum wages for employments INDUSTRY be pleased to state: wbich are spread over more than two States in a Region or in (a) whether Union Government are which wide differential causes proposing to introduce separate sectoral flight of industry/business from wage policies for six regions in the country one State to another. till a consensus is reached 00 the formu- lation of a national wage policy for the public sector enterprises; (iii) The Board may meet atleast twice (b) if so, the main features of this a year to review the minimum proposed scheme; and wages so fixed. (c) whether all the concerned regions have agreed to the proposal and if so, the (iv) In fixing the minImum regional time by which final implementation of wage, the Board shou1d take into the propoS31 is likely to be taken up ? account prevailing wage rates in the particular employment in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE different States of the region and DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- the neighbouring regions, the PRISES (PROF. K.K. TEWAR Y) : capacity to pay, requirement of (a) Yes, Sir. Draft guidelines on regional skill for the employment, hazards minimum wages have been circulated by involved etc. It will also take Labour Ministry to the various States into account the poverty line as falling under six regions for their com- deHneated in the 7th Five-Year ments. These guidelines are meant to be Plan document. The States may adopted by the State Governments for raise the minimum wages when· fixing minimum wages under the Minimum ever there is a rise of 50 points Wages Act, 1948 applicable to both public in the All India Consumer Price and private sector enterprises. Index, following the usual pro- cedure laid dOWn in the Minimum (b) The main features contained in Wages Act 1948 and the recom- these draft guidelines are enumerated mendations of the Regional below: Board. 0) There will be six Regional Mini .. mum Wage Advisory Boards cove.. (c) The states are yet to send their ring the States in Eastern Region, comments on the draft guidelines. Imple- North Eastrrn Region, Southern mentation of the proposaJ will follow Region, Northern ResioD, Wes- receipt of such comments from States. 335 Written Answers JUL Y 29, 1986 [Trtulliatlon] for development, expansion, diversifica- tion, modernisation and rehabilitation of Target For Setting up Small Scale Sma)) Scale Industry units. The Seventh Industries daring Seventh Plan Plan wouJd focus attention on upgradation of technology by strengthening/creation of 1726. SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD: tooling and workshop facilities for deve- SHRI VILAS MUTTEMW AR : lopment of proto-type design, new products and processes, revamp the WilJ the Minister of INDUSTRY be organisational structure for the develop- pleased to state : ment of this sector, promoting the dis- persal of Industries to the less developed (b) the steps so far taken and pro- 12.00 hrs. posed to be taken in future by Govern- ment to achieve this target ? [English] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DR. V. VENKATESH (Kolar): Sir, DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- Chinese intrusion in Arunachal Pradesh is LOPMENT (SURI M. ARUNACHALAM): there. (a) During the Seventh Five Year Plan, production at 1984-85 prices in the small (Translation] Scale Industries Sector is targeted to in- crease from Rs. 50,520 crores to Rs. 80,220 MR. SPEAKER: Please listen to me. crores, employment from 90 lakh persons You are aware of the fact that the state- to 119 lakh persons and exports at 1984-85 ment will be made day after tomorrow on prices from Rs. 2,350 crores to Rs. 4,140 this subject. It has already been decided. crores. [English] (b) A number of important steps have been taken to stimulate the growth We are going to discuss it. of small scale industries The Govern- ment will continue to expand and streng- DR. V. VENKATESU Sir, it is a then the programmes and activities taken very serious thing. up earlier. To facilitate modernisation and achieve rapid growth in the sector, MR. SPEAKER: We are doing it. We the upper limit on investment (in plant ha ve already taken cognizance of it. and machinery) has been raised in respect of small scale units from Rs. 20 lakhs to DR. V. VENKATESH: Thank you, RI. 35 lakhs and in the case of ancillary Sir. units from Rs. 25 lakhs to Rs. 4; lakhs. The Government will continue, inter-alia, SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub- tbe policy of reservation of selected items nagar) : They are laying claim to a for exclusive production, for exclusive/ helipad. partial purchases from sma)) scale sector under Government Purchase Programme, (Int erruptions) provision of financial anistance from the Scheduled Commercial Banks and State MR. SPEAKER: We have already Financial Corporations at concessional decided. rates of interest on liberal terms, provision of machinery on bir.e purchase and excise concessions for the small scale sector. [Translation] Recently, a Small Industries Development Fund was set up in the Industrial Develop- What more do you want me to do ? It men t Bank of India to provide assistanQe bas already been decided. 331 SRAV ANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) 338 [English] (English] MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. " We have already decided. We shall do it. (Interruptions) * • No problem. SHRI AMAL DATT A: Mr. Speaker J Sir, you hear me OD my Calling Attention. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Sir ..••.• I have given Calling Attention regarding the tie-up of Pepsi Cola with Punjab Agro (Interruptions) Industries Corporation. ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed Shri Hannan Mallah under Rule 377. [Translation] (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Do not talk irrele- vant (Interruptions). MR. SPEAKER: You are a lawyer. [English] (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Acha ria , you SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har- are a responsible leader, you should not bour): I· am standing. Whenever you behave irresponsibly. call me, I will speak. Otherwise I will not, I will remain standing. ( Translation) (Interruptions). I have already told you. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Acharia, what [English] is your point of ordcr ? SHRI AMAL DATtA: Will you SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): allow my Calling Attention? My point of order is that today thousands of Gramin Bank employees are to stage (Interruptions) dharana at Boat Club. [Translation] (Interruptions). MR. SPEAKER: If you give a notice, MR. SPEAKER: There is no point I shall consider it. of oroer. I have already allowed Shri Hannan Mollah under Rule 377 on that (English] subject. I will take into consideration and allow Not allowed. it. It does not matter. (Interruptions). *. There is no problem. [TraMlallon] SHRI AMAL DA TTA Will you allow it ? MR. SPEAKER: You are a leader. Yo. should have come prcpart'd on which [Translation] subjo.:t the Adjournment Motion is. MR. SPEAKER: Please give a notice SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: I have tome. studied, but ...• ~ • (Interruptions) •• Not recorded, JULY 29. 1986 Paper, Laid 3. (English] 12.04 hrs. SHRI AMAL DATTA: If you say PAPERS LA1D ON THE TABLE you allow it. I will not say anything else. (English] only MR.. SPEAKER: No, I can Conduct of Elections (Amendment) consider it. Rules, 1986 SHRI AMAL DATTA: It has been . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE alreadY discussed in the Rajya Sabba. We MINISTRY OF :LAW AND JUSTICE want to discuss it. we want to know from (SHRI H.R. BHARADWAJ): I beg to the Minister what is the policy? Jay on the Table a copy of the Conduct of Elections (Amendment) Rules, 1916 MR. SPEAKER: Amalji don't get a (Hindi . and Eng'lish versions) published in registration from me, but I wjn consider it Notification NO'. S.O. 340(E) In Gazette of sympathetically. Sit down. No problem .. India dated the 4th June, 1986, under sub- section (3) of section 169 of tbe Represen- tation of the People Act, 1951. Now, Papers Laid-Shri Bharadwaj. (Placed in Library. See No. LT 2836/ SHRI ABDUL HAMID (Dhubri) 86J. Sir t the eJected MLAs and Executives of the United Minorities Front from Assam and also some Executives of this Party are Notifications under SeCtiOD 159 of the staging a dharana before the Boat Club Customs Act and Central Excise Rules, 1944 MR. SPEAKER Does not matter, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE no question. Does not matter. DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE (SHRI B.K. GADHVI): Sir, on behalf SHRI ABDUL HAMID: Sir, they of Shri Janardhana Poojary, I beg to lay on are staging dharana regarding the large- the Table :- scale eviction from their hearths and home ...... (I) A copy each of the fonowing notifications (Hindi and English MR. SPEAKER: All are Indians, no versions) under section 159 of the problem. Customs Act, 1962:- . SHRI ABDUL HAMID: And impos- (i) G.S.R. 857(E) published in ing Assamese language .•.• Gazette of India dated the 16th June, 1986 together with MR. SPEAKER: No, DO. I am not an explanatory memorandum concerned. Does not matter, it is their making certain amend men t right. They can do whatever they like. to Notificatioo No. 118- Customs dated the 19th June, SHRI ABDUL HAMID: Sir. tfiey 1980. so as to·preacribc. dte are imposing Assamese language compu}- basic customs duty rate of 30 sorily 00 the noo-Assamese people. per cent ad valorem fa res.. pect of ma~hine"cqaipment specified therein and cacM- MR. SPEAKER: They have got an ing the scope of the said -elected government. Sit down. notificat ion to cover aDOther seventy five Item. of machi· Now, Papers Laid-Mr. Bharadwaj. nery/equipment used in the electronic components In- dustry. SrRA "ANA " J9Q8 (SAKA) (ii) O.S.R. SS8(E) published in all explanatory memorandum Gazette of India dated the resardilJg exemption to goods 16th June, 1986 together with specified in the notification in explanatory memorandum wbeft imported for tbe manu- regarding exemption to facture of elecrronic goods ft'J'o1dds and tile tools and from tbe basic customs duty dies when imported into in excess of 4S per cent ad India for the manufacture of valorem and tbe whole of the erectroflic components from additional duty of customs the basic customs duty in leviable thercOA. excess of 30 per cent and ad valorem and the whole of (vii) O.S.R. g()3(E} published in the additional duty leviable Gazette of India dated the thereon. 16tb June, 1986 together with an explanatory memorandum (iii) G.S.R. 859(E) published in regarding exemption to com- Gazette of India dated the puters when imported into 16th June, 1986 together with India from the basic customs an explanatory memorandum duty in excess of 110 per regarding exemption to goods cent ad vawrem. specified in the notification from the basic customs duty (viii) G.S.R. 864(E) published in in excess of 30 per cent ad Gazette of India dated the valorem and the whole of tbe 16th JU:1e, 1986 together with additicnal duty of customs an explanatory memorandum leviable thereon. regarding exemption to good') specified in the notification (iv) G.S.R. 860(E) published in from the basic customs duty Gazette of India dated the in excess of 5 per- cent ad 16th June, )986 together with valorem and the whole of the an explanatory memorandum additional duty of customs regarding exemption to goods leviable thereon. specified in the notification when imported into India for (i'<) G.S.R. 865{E) pubJisbed in the manufacture of goods Gazette of India d3ted the spedfied in the notification 16th June, 1986 together with from the basic customs duty an explabatory memorandum in excess of 30 per cent ad regarding exemption to goods va10rem and the whole of the specified in the notification additional duty of customs from tbe basic customs duty leviable thereon. in excess of 50 per cent ad valorem and from the whole (v) G.S.R. 86J(E) published in of the additional duty of cus- Gazette of India dated the toms leviable thereon. 16th June, 1986 together with an explanatory memorandum (x) G.S R.. 866(E) published in regarding exemption to goods Gazette of India dated the specified in the notification 16th June, 1986 together with from the basic customs duty an explanatory memorandum in excess of 45 per cent ad making certain amendment valorem and the whole of the to Notification No. 312/86- additional duty of cllstoms Customs d.!ted the 13th May, leviable thereon. 1986. (vi) G.S.R. 862(E) published in (xi) G .S. R. 867(E) published in Gazette of India dated the Gazette of India dated the 16th me, 1986 together with 16th .June, 1986 together with 343 Papers Laid IULY 29, 1986 MellQle from Ralya Sabha 344 an explanatory memorandum to Notification Nos. SS/86-CE making certain amendment dated the 10th February, to Notification No. 314/86- 1986 and 222/86-CE dated Customs dated the 13th May, the 3rd April, 1986. 1?86. [Placed in Library. See No (xii) G.S.R. 868(E) published in LT 2838/86] Gazette of India dated the 16th June, 1986 together with Electricity (Supply) AnDual Accounts an explanatory memorandum Rules, 1985 rescinding Notification Nos. 229-Customs to 231-Customs ( Trans/at ion) and 233-Cu stoms dated the 18th August, 1983. 279-Cus- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE toms dated the 19th Novem- DEPARTMENT OF POWER AND ber. 1984 and Il3-Customs MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS· dated thf' 17th February, TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL 1986. GAS (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : Sir, I beg to Jay on the Table :- (xiii) G.S.R. 944 (E) published in Gazette of India dated the (4) A copy of tbe Electricity (Supply) 15th July t 1986 together with Annual Accounts Rules, 1985 an explanatory memorandum (Hindi and English Versions) pub- containing corrigendum to lished in Notification No. G.S.R. Notification No. 241/86-Cus- 1134 in Gazette of India dated toms dated the 11 th April, the 7th December, 1985 together 1986. with a corrjgendum thereto pub- lish in Notification No. G.S.R. 388 (xix) G .S. R. 949(E) published in in Gazette of India dated the 31st Gazette of India dated the May. 1986, under sub-section (3) 18th July, 1986 together with of section (4B) of the Electricity an explanatory memorandu m (Supply) Act, 1948. regarding revised rate of ex- change for conversion of [Placed in Library. See No. LT Russian Rouble into Indian 2839/86] currency or vice-versa. [Placed No. in library. See 12.06 brs. LT 2837/86] MESSAGE FROM RAJY A SABHA (2) A copy each 0 f the following Notifications (Hindi and English [English) versions) issued under the Central Excise Rules, 1944 :- SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I have (i) G.S.R. 8S6(E) published in to report the following message recieved Gazette of India da ted the from the Secretary-General Rajya 16th June, 1986 together with S"bha :- an explanatory memorandum rescinding Notification No. "In accordance with the provisions of 208/77- CE dated the 2nd rule 111 of tbe Rules of Procedure July, 1977. and Conduct of Business in the Rajya Sabha. I am directed to enclose a copy (ii) G.S.R. 938{E) pubHshed in of the Repealing and Amending Bill, Gazette of India dated the 1986, which has been passed by Rajy. 8th July, 1986 together with Sabha at its sitting held on tbe 28th an explanatory memorandum July, 1986. making certain amendments SRAVANA ' • • 908 (SAKA) Calling Allenlton REPEALING AND AMENDING The Memorandum of Settlement 0'0 BILL, 1986 Mizoram is a significant achievement and a stirring tribute to the earnest efforts of 2. SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I the Government in bringing about a peace- lay OD the Table the Repealing and Amen- ful solution to the two decades old ding Bill, 1986. as passed by Rajya Mizoram problem. The Settlement has Sabha. rightly triggered a wave of enthusiasm and expectations among the people of Mizoram. There is a turning-point in tbe affairs of strife-torn people which enable them to 12.06 brl. put strife and suffering behind them and I believe that such a point has been reach- ESTIMATES COMMITTEE ed in Mizoram. The constructive and sympathetic attitude of the Government of [English] India and firm and steady steps taken by us in the direction of restoring normalcy Thirty-fifth Report in Mizoram have contributed to the changed climate with a realisation that SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI insurgent strategy had reached a dead end. (Bhubaneswar): I beg to present Thirty- In this new atmosphere wb:ch ensures fifth Report (Hindi and English version) norm3lcy, a national approach to the aspi- of the Estimates Committee on Action rations of the Mizos and the people of Taken by Government on the recommen- Mizoram within the framework of the dations contained in their Seventeenth ConstitutiO:l has gained ready acceptance Report on the Ministry of Finance (Depart. in the country. ment of Economic Affairs)-Reclassifica- tion of Transactions relating to Defence As per the provisions of the Memo- Pensions. randum of Settlement, the Mao National Front has amended its Articles of Associa- tion so as to conform to the provisions of la w. The process of MNF personnel 12.07 hrs. coming overground has started. Till 28th ~ July, 1986, 525 MNF personnel and 154 CALLING ATTENTION TO MATIER members of their families have come over- OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE ground at Parva and Marpara. Certain misgivings have been expressed in the [English] Press and by the opposition as to whether the Group headed by Shr; Lalrawna will Situation arisiog out of settlemeat come overground. I am glad to inform 00 Mlzoram to House that this Group has reported at Marpara Camp on the Border of Mizoram. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI (Adila- MNF have deposited variou~ types of bad): Sir, I call the attention of the weapons such as, Light Machine guns, Sub- Minister of Home Affairs to the following machine guns, Semi Automatic Rilles, matter of urgent public importance and .303 rifles, rocket launchers, 12 Bore guns request that he may make a statement etc. The process of surrendering arms is thereon :- continuing and it is expected that by the end of this month all the MNF personnel "Situation arising out of the will come overground and surrender their settlement on Mizoram. til arms. Subject to the fulfilment of the st~ps to be taken by MNF as per the THE MJNISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Memoralldum of Settlement, Government (S. BUTA SINGH): My colleague Shri will not lag behind in implementing the Ghulam Nabi Azad made a suo molD state· provisions of the Settlement and granting ment on 21st July, 1986, in the House of statehood to Mizoram. Schemes have on the Memorandum of Settlement on already been worked out for resettlement Mizoram .. and rehabilitation of personnel who ha v, Calling Attention fS ..... Sinanl (iii) Operation of daily Y.apdoot Service from 15th August, come overground to ensure their return 1986. to civil life. (iv) Commissioning of a Hilb As per the provISIOns of the Settle- Power T. V. Transmitter at lDent~ the MNF have given an undertak.ing Aizawl by 1987 .. 88, a low pOWer taet _e1 would not extend any support ~.() transmission station for relay ,{NV, PLA and other such groups. I of programmes at LUnglei by fervently hope that these misguided eJe- 1987 and a low power trans- ments will see reason and give up their mitter for relay of prop-a.nue violent activities and dreams of achieving at Saiha by 1987-88. 1beir objectives outside tbe Constitution of India. (v) Lunglei linked to Aizawl by telephone on 26.1.1986. This Memorandum of SettJement of (vi) Lunglei-Saiha UHF link by Mizoram, will usher in normalcy in Mizo- M~lrch, 1987. ram which is a sensitive Union Territory in the north-eastern region. The cherished (vii) Establishment of a larger e1ec- dream of tbe people of Mizoram for peace tronic telephone exchange at and security has been fir.al1y fulfilled. Aizawl by to Government of India has given high 1987-88 replace Hnes Srowger priority to the developmental programmes present 800 Ex- change. or Mizoram The rousing reception given to the Prime Minister by the people of (viii) Establishment of Electronic Mizoram during h is recent visit to Mizoram Telex Exchange at Aizawl 'by is a measure of the response of the people 1987-88 and satellite eartb Sta- to the Memorandum of Settlement. As tions at Champai, Demagiri per the announcement made by the Prime and Sai-ha 'Minister during his visit to Mizoram, a team of Secretaries and senior officers of (ix) transport subsidy for various Ministries/Departments visited 1000/0 transportation of wheat pro- Mizoram, including some interior areas, ducts from Gauhati of Sile1lar between 24th and 26th of July and a group to focal points in Mizoram. of seven Central Ministers headed by Shri Narayan Dutt Tiwari Mirj .. ter fOT Industry (x) Increase in the aUoca.tiOll ef and comprising Dr. Man Mohan Singh, rice to Mizoram from 6000 to S~. Susbila Rohtagi, Sbri Gbulam Nabi 6500 MT per month. Azad, Shri P.A. Sangama, Smt. Margaret Alva and Sbri Yogendra Makwana also Administrator has been given visited Mizoram on 26 and 27th of July. (xi) powers to sanction schemes A .number 0'( important decisions have been upto Rs. 2 crores each. taken by tbis Group regarding develop- mental schemes of Mizoram Some of the important decisions announced are : (xii) Establishment of a watch as8Cml- bling unit in Mizoram. 0) Declaration of Lunglei-Saiba and (xiii) Approval of Union Territory's Lunglei·Tuipang roads as Natio- proposal for 24 more rural nal Highwa) s. link roads linking 67 villages and costing Rs. 211.40 lakhs· under Rural Landless Bmploy· Cii) Arrangements for training of ment Generation Pregramme. Mizoram Engineers in road construction at the National (xiv) Assistance to Union Territory Institute for Training for High- under Centra] Acce1erttted wa)' Ensineers. Rural Water Supply ?roaramme SRAVANA 7, t~ (SAK.A) c.n"" Attention for construction of rain water ed and Mizoram will enter a newopbase of collection system for individ Dais peace and prosperity. and community. For individual 75% of the total cost win be SHRI C. MADH~V REDD! (Adila- funded from A'lt WSP and assis- bad) : I welcome the ace ~ rd and any tance for community will be efforts made by the Government to bring 100% A project costing upto peace to the sensiti¥e parts of North- tts. 1 crore and covering 100 Bastem India. But this is ODe ef the viHages bas been agreed to. tbree accords, two alreKJ before us. Judging by the performance (tf the two (xv) Construction of one 200 tonnes accords and certain aspects of tbe nen- capacity godown in each of 20 implementability of thtse two 8C'C6rdi, it blocks for storage of agricultu- is better that we have a hard look at the ral produce aJld foodgrains. present accord. (xvi) Setting .up of a Fruit Processing This is the accord which confers Plant in cooperative sector In special status on Maoram. It is said Mizoram. that the accord is within the framework of the Constitution. I would have been (xvii) Setting up of a Veterinary Col- happy if that is so. You have a proposal lege in Mizoram. to amend the Constitution and noW )'ou say it is within tbe terms of the Constitu- (xviii) Setting up of a Sports Complex tion. What is this logic '1 You have at Aizawl aftor the scheme is agreed to amend certain articles of the I received from the U.T. Admi- Constitution and yet you say that this nistration. accord is strictly in occordance with .the Constitution and the Mizo National FrGnt has accepted, Mr. Laldenga has accepted .(XiK) Establishment of Navodaya the Constitution of India. I am not able Vidyalaya in Mizoram. to understand the loak of this. There are certain aspects of this accord which (xx) Establishment of an Industrial are very different from the patterns that Growth Centre at Aizawl with- we have earlier. in the neAt two years at a C0st ,.( Rs. 6 crores out of which Its. 12.15 hrs. 2 crores will be from IDBI. {MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] (Jai) More cultural exchanges bet- ween Mizoram and the rest of We had Kashmir and then subsequen- the country. tly Nagaland and noW we are &aiDa to have this-varied and different pattern~ of (nit) Completion of 132 KV power the federal structure in this country. HoW lines from Kumarghat and long are you going to have this? How Jiribam to Aizawl by December long are you going to have varying strllc- 19i6 and April 1987 respect- tures of our own Stat-es '1 Where is the tivcly. guarantee that in future no State is going to ask for a certain special status for (.xxiii) Arrangements for training of themselves? It is very strange that, about 100 Mizoram power when some of the States try to give BDBineers within the span of importance to language and local culture, two years. they are dubbed as chauvinistic, Govern- ment says that they are practising sub- Thele decisions will be closly monitored nationalism. But here what you are with a "jew to giving an impetus to the doing is this. Clause 7 of the Accord developmerwu programmes of Mizoram. says that Mizoram win have the _special I 8Rl awe, .with this thrllst, the pace of status of baving trade with the border tdoyelepmODt iD MSOlam wiil be accoJera t .. States, with the border CO Ulltries. 1thia -.!st t"IUag Attenlion JUi. Y 29, 1986 Calling AtteniJo" {Shri C. Madhav Reddi] mentions about tbe minorities, the protec- tion that the Government of India and the future State Government would give is a concession which bas not been given to the local minorities. But it does not to the earlier two States which enjoy a say anything about the Chakma minority special status. This is something which who form about one-third of the popula- is unique, even though it could be under tion there. Already tbe Mizos have a particular agreement signed between the declared the minorities as infiltrators; they Government of India and that particular say that they are outsiders; they are country" But, whatever it is, this is prepared to wage a war against them; fraught with ~serious cons<'Quences. It they say, they do not want them. mentions only about 10calJy produced The Government of India have already commodities. How are you going to given them protection. They have been prevent commodities moving into that rehabilitated and for them there is a particular territory from West Bengal, District Council. What are you going to Assam and other States and then, from do with the District Council? Are you there crossing over to China and other going to abolish this Council? Are you countries as )oca]]y produced commodi- going to say to them, "You do not have ties '1 How are you going to stop that? any Council"? Are you going to leave this big minority to the mercy of the Another aspect of this Accord is this. Mizos who have already declared that Already there are statements of Mr. they are for a Mizo land only and no other Laldenga that he would strive for the minority; even the Chakmas will be integration of all the Mizos in the adjoi- permitted to stay there. nilig territories of Tl ipura, As~am and other areas. And, strangely enough, the The Accord has got the political Accord mentions this. Even though the overtones. It is because before the Government of India says tha t it did not signing of this accord by the Government agree to this, yet, a mention was made in of India and the Government of Mizoram tbe Accord. Why was a mention made with Laldenga there was another agree- in the Accord when the Government of ment which was signed by Congress-I and India did not agree to the integl ation of the Mizo National Front in which they the Mizos '1 The Accord very clearly havl.! agreed to certain terms and condi- says, "Well, ,for the time bdng, we do tions, they have agreed for a coalition not agree". But you are showing the Government, they have agreed that the way. The way is that article 3 of the chief ministership would be' given to Constitution is available and any State can Laldenga, etc. The entire present accord resort to that. That is, this is a direct is depending very much on this arrange- invitation to the Mizos to agitate for the ment. If this, arrangement is disturbed, integration of a United Mizo State. Is it then this accord is not going to be imple- proper '1 Why was it done? Where was mented. In other words, Laldenga might the necessity for such a mention to be return to the path 0 f insurgency. This made in the Accord when the Govern- has to be clarified. ment of India did not agree to their conditions? When Mr. Laldenga visited Regarding laying down of arms, just his place, on the first day, there was a now we have been told that about 550 huge crowd acd in that meeting the first people or so have laid down their arms. sentence he uttered was that he would I do not know whether Government of strive for a United Mizo State-he does India has feelers as to how many people not say ·State', he says 'United Mizo are there underground and how many are Nation'; that is how he refers. Now, how to Jay down the arms. It is merely said is it consistent with the spirit of the that we hope that all of them will come Accord which says that it is within the forward and Jay. They do not say "Jay four waUs of the Constitution. down the arms". Very carefuJJy laying down of the arms is avoided. Surrender The tbird point which I would like to is certainly avoided It is only deposi· Gention is Clau.e 9 of the Accord which ting the arms. O.K., we have . DO Cailing Attention SRAVANA 1,1908 (SAKAl Callint Attention objection to the depositing of the arms. remotely analogous to that of J&K under But how many are going to deposit the the Article 370. arms and when are they going to deposit the arms? Again, Sir, doubts as regards Clause 4.3 II should be removed. That Clause Then, there is the question of confi- says: dence. I wouJd ask the Home Minister a straight question. Do you feel that "That no Act of Parliament in respect you have fun confidence in Mr. Laldenga ? of religious practices and ownership Looking to his background, his ear Her and transfer of land even criminal and episodes-slipping out of agreements, civil law would be made applicable to agreeing to something and running out of Mizoram unless the A~embly of Mizo- it are the matters of history. We know ram agrees to that." what type of man he is. He is a man who would not leave unless be achieves a PROF. N. G. RANGA (Guntur): thing. Mizos have got fuB faith in him. They are all tribaJs. When he says that you wait, I will ultima- tely fight and get you a Mizo la~d, an SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Well I United Mizo land, Mizos are going to am u\\are of the fact that something of the Jisten to him because they look to him as kind has been provided under Sixth Sche- a man like Mosses who would lead them dule of the Constitution for tribal areas to the promised land, flowing with milk of the erstwhile composite Assam State as and honey. When that milk and honey fdr back as 1952 but, I think, this goes a is no longer there in those hilly areas of little beyond and this was done only in Mizoram, I a m sure he is going to wage a the calie of Nagaland. So I would like to war against the Government again. knew whether it further entails any special Constitution amendment. These are the doubts which I have As has been pointed out rightly by and I would request the Minister to clarify Shri Madhav Reddi ji this demand of them. grea ter Mizoram has been raised right in the Agreement and it has been left OpeD. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub- Both the parties have stated their position. nagar) : Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, I qUIte In fact, our Prime Minister who, of course, feel that more home work has gone into had an outlandish outing soon after the the accord on Mizoram than those of Accord in MJzoram during that visit ruled Punjab and Assam. Because negotiations out the possibility of greater Mizoram' themselves lasted for merely a decade. altogether but Laldenga keeps on promis- Our experience in respect of Punjab and ing that to the Mizo people. Therefore, Assam accords have not been particularly naturally the doubts arise. I am one of happy. At the same time it would not tbo~e who believes tbat Mizos living in be correct to judge the Mizoram accord northern Tripura or Manipur would not by the same yardstick. However, people be very enthusiastic about the whole idea of India would not really grudge a liberal of greater Mizoram because the Mizos in approach to Mizoram in view of their Mizoram belong to one tribe, the Lushai relative cultural and political isolation tribe, while the Mizos living in northern from the mainstream of India. Tripura or in Manipur belong to other tribes, namely, ~Kuku Chin, Lakhers, But the timing and the manner of Pawis, elC. 1 hey would not be particu.. conclusion of the accord has raised many larly interested in greater Mizoram. So grave, genuine and widespread doubts in we would like to knew whether there is the country. Sir, the country has to be something more than what is contained in assured that the promises to treat the Accord in regard to this demand for Mizoram as special category State would greater Mizoram. not be the same as bestowing a special status on the State which could be at a On behalf of my party I taised one future date interpreted as being even point even at that time. I do not knQw IShri S. JaipaJ Reddy) given to Mizoram is beyond the permilSi. ble limits. I do not know why the Govem- how Mr. Arjun Singh and Mr. Antony as ment of India have taken such. wrong Vice-President and General Secretary step. It means that whoever crea tes some respectively of the Congress (I) party were problems or whoever goes against the associated with the process of conc1usion Government of India, those people will be of this Accord. I am not raising a techni- .rewarded by some further safeguards. It cal question. Our party has no 'particular is a clear indication for, the future, for stake in lh .... t tiny Union Territory but the any State or for any terrorist group to point here is that the ~ame procedure was take advantage of such situation. The adopted when Sheikh Abdullah was ins- Government has showed them a way in talled as Chief Minister in Jdmmu and this regard. This tendency has to be Kashmir and we know what bitter experi. controlled. I do feel that the inefficiency ence this nation has had and how the pro- of the Government of India in controlling blem is still smouldering in Kashmir. Our the actions of the Mizo rebels has led to Prime Minister and our Minister and Con- this agreement. I say that the Govern- gress (1) members do not miss an opportu- ment should have taken appropriate steps nity to lecture to us how such problems much earHer. For the last twenty years, have to be looked at from trans-party they have allowed the people to crO$S the angle. I would like to know whether this border which enabled them to ger all Government even on the question of the armaments from the neighbouring Mizoram has approached the problem from countries. Without controlling any of that broader angle. these things, they have now taken this up and they have given some special status In regard to protection of minorities, to the State. And it is nothing but this w~ll, there is' a provision in the Accord distribution of power between the Con- but reports are that minorities are feeling gress and Me. Laldenga because as per unsafe. Prof. Ranga was saying there is the agreement, Shri LaJdenga wolud be the the question of minorities In Mizoram Chief Minister and Congress (I) represen- who are not feeling safe as pointed by tative would be the Deputy Chief Minister 5bri Madhav Reddi ji and Chakmas are alongwith 5 Mioisters. So, this is not Iik.ely to move in greater number because at all an Accord. It is nothing but of their persecution in Bangladesh. So power distribution between Congress this is going to pose a great problem. people because they just cannot r-emain without power. Any person can under- Lastly this provision to allow the new stand the Accord only in this way. State to do trade with neighbouring coun- tries needs to be elucidated I would not Why has the Minister assured in his say that China is a neighbouring country statement about all that help to Mizoram, of Mizoram but Bangladesh and Burma now only? What happened in the last are neighbouring countries. Nothing twenty years? Why did they-all those would prevent the new Government in Central Ministers-not go to Mizoram Mizoram from doing trade with these much earlier? What prevented them in countries. Or, you may say under the the past to go over there and to extend agf1Cement any such trade has to be a part all the he'Jp required, the transport facili- of the larger international agreement to be ties, telephone facilities, TV facilities concluded by the Government of India and so on? Why were all these benefits me1f. But again, differences may arise not extended to them, prior to this agree- between the State Government of Mizoram ment? Only now they have realised that and Government of India. How are these the State is in need of al1 these things! differences go1n~ to be settled? WiIl this Only now, they have come to know about Dot again Icad to insurgency? So, some all these facts! That means that they of these questions. have to be categorically only want to capture power by providing answered. aU these facilities through this qreemcnt. They want to ,go in for elections and they SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY (Nalgo- are trying "0 capture po-wer by p~id.ing ada): The autonomy wbich is beina aU thaae things. Tbat is the main iatntiOD SRAVANA " 1'906 (SAKA) Calling Attention el this accord. When tbe State is in Now the question is whether we should .ouble and when it needs those tral1sport solve such problem~ through military facilities and those 132 KV sub-stations, action or by negotiating with all the con- whr could you not help them earlier? cerned parties? I feel that our bOD. Home Minister should find solution of the PROF. N.G. RANGA They should piobl.!m by holding negotiations. Every .have dODe it earlier. discerning person will welcome this move. We are pained when our opposition Mem- SflRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Why b~rs try to mislead the people in regard have you not taken up all this work much to this Settlement. e8lrl·i,er? Why are all the Centred Minis- ters including the Minister for Agriculture The statement of the hone Home BoW,g there only now ? Minister itself offers solution to a number of problems. The cultural and geographi- In my opinion, this accord indirectly cal characteristics of Mizoram and other Sh0W5 the inefficiency of the Central North-Eastern States are quite distinct Government in controlling the law and vis-a-vis the rest of the country. Daring order situati(}n as also the border security the days of the freedoln struggle of tbe problem. It is the same story everywhere country, Mizoram remained aloof from Sic. YOkl are not able to control the it. Now we have to ensure that these jnfiltration into Punjab and Punjab problem regions join the mainstream of the na1ion. is created. You are not able to control The result of our efforts in this regard linfiltration from China and Pakistan and must be reflected in the North-Eastern some other problem may arise. You will States. think of taking decisions {)nly then. Why don't take appropriate action at the ap- propriate moment? I would request the A number of things have appeared in Minister, rather I demand that early deci- the neWsp..lpers in regard to tbis Accoro sions should be taken after judging the and many things have been said in both matter expeditiously. You take decisions the Houses. I would like to know from eft1y after something happens aDd the situ- the hon. Minister whether the proposed .ation goes out of control. State of MizOfdffi will be of a State of spedal status or a stat~ of special -cate- This accord which gives special auto- gory? If it is a State with special CJtatus, nomy to the State of Mizoram is in no it can be compared with Jammu and way good. You treat Mizoram on par Kas hmir or N agalan d and if it is a special witb other States so that some other category State, everyone will welcome States do not get a chance- to create some it. I would like to know from the hon. mlisance. They may ask the same- special Minister whether other regions in the pri'Vtieges in future. Shri Laldenga also North-Eastern regiQD, such as Arunachal may c1eare problems in Assam, Nagaland Pradesh, would also be accorded the and Manipur by asking for Greater Mizo- status of a State? If so, by when will fame Y-ou may have 10 decide about all it be accorded the status of a State? Will these things befor-e coming to a conclusion. Arunachal Pradesh be treated as a special The hon Minister may take all these category state and provided assistance in points mto cor.sidttation. the same way as is being provided to Mizoram? If you do not provide similar {Tran$1ttrion) help to Arunacha1 Pradesh. the people of Arunachal Pradesh may think that the SHRI H \RISH RAWAT (Almora): Government of India provided assistance Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. the Memo- to Mizoratn because some people took up randum of Settlement on Mizoram is an arms against the country and challenged important achievement for us. Now we the sovereignty, the integrity aod the dIal1 Jaave to see bow to solve aU these unity of the country. To aUay such .pl'Dblell1s' \\Toe have to assure those misunderstanding it is essential that pMlPJe who bave doubts in their mind in AruDach&1 Pradesh may be holped in the C'CIIld _ the Settlement. same way as Mizoram. Calling Attention Calling .4ttenlion [Shri Harish Rawat] of the concept of Greater Mizoram. ] would also like to know by when are Although the situation is not clear com- you going to grant statehood to Arunachal plete)y yet some hazy picture does Pradesh? Wdl Arun3.cbal Pradesh also emerge. If Laldenga talks of Greater be treated as a special category State and Mizo State, the people of the neighbour- receive allocation from the Planning Com- ing States like Manipur will become mission in the same manner has been apprehensive. I would like to know provided to Mizoram. whether there is any provision in the agreement that Laldenga may be advised In Mizoram, there is also the problem not to raise such demands so that the of rehabilitation of the rebels who had problems which are already there in the taken up arms against India. You will North·Eastern region are not further com- have to provide funds for their rehabi- plicated and he may give up his demand litation. I would also like to know that for Greater Mizo State. the rebels who lay down their arms and are provided funds for rehabilitation, can My last question is in regard to general also be absorbed in the police or in the amnesty. We treat the statement of armed forces later on or not? Has this Prime Minister in the context of general matter been considered? Secondly, what amnesty as official statement of the steps have been taken to ensure that Government of India but What LuJdenga after this creates doubts in our those rebels, to whom fUl1d~ wjll be pro- has said vided for rehabilitation, may not use tbe mind. I would like to know from the funds to purchase arms and turn hostile? hon. Home Minister whether general What guarantee is there that they will amnesty also covers those persons who not continue contact with hostile elements are guilty of serious offences like murder like People's Liberation Army of Manipur, of the policemen and security personnel T.N.V. and National Socialist Council of and who have been apprehended after Naga]and in the North-Eastern region in great efforts? May I know whether those future and will not provide help to the persons would also be given general elements engaged in anti .. nationa] activities amnesty who have fled to other countries in Nagaland, Manipur and elsewhere? after committing murders here and do not What mechanism have you evolved to lay down arms by then? I would also monitor these things? like to know whether there is any deadline for laying down arms? . After some time The underground rebels, who lay down when Laldenga becomes the Chief Minister, he will have some influence over arms, wiIJ continue their relations with foreign countries because they are getting his State. In this respect, doubts arise arms from countries like Bangladesh, that when he becomes the Chief Minister China etc. Have you raised this matter of the State, the rebels mayor may not with La!denga to ensure that they do lay down arms. Therefore, a deadline not continue their contacts with tbem ? should be fixed for laying down arms and Otherwise' a situation. may come when that those people Who do not lay down taking advantage of these contacts, they arms after this date will not be covered may take up arms in future in case they by the general amnesty. feel aggrieved o~er some issue. On the one band, you have integrated them in the With those words, I welcome the mainstream of the country and given them Accord concluded in regard to Mizoram respectable place in politics and on the and 'on bebalf of the House I convey my other hand if they again take up arms in thanks to the Hon. Prime Minister and the future, a serious situation might be hone Home Minister. crea ted. I t is a border state and arms can be smuggled from other countries. [English] Therefore, there is need to consider the m~tter seriously. SHRI BHATT AM SRIRAMA Mt:llTY (Visakhapatnatl) : At one time it appeared Laldulga bas made some clarification as though we bad entered into a new era io regan! to the Mizo nation in the ~ontext of understandina and peace, accordl and 361 Calling Attention SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Calling Attention 362 harmony. BU:t then, the a(termatb of pt:O. Therefore, the Central Government tho accord was something very unhappy. is also to blame, if blame is necessary. It was disappointing. We were all disillusio- Ded. Therefore I do not expect some- And another point, my friend, and thing better as far as this Accord is also colleague and leader of the party 8hri concerned. Madhav Reddi has mentioned about bor- der trade with foreign countries. Mizo- Sir, the trends are ominous. Already ram can have trade with foreign countries there is sufficient evidence that aU is not of course border countries. That is going to be wel1. Even before the ink highly objectionable, and it is unpreceden- on the Accord is dry. Laldenga issued a ted and this has never been there. For statement to which the 'Prime Minister this purpose the Government intend to had immediately reacted shying that he go to the extent of amending the Consti- was totally disappointed a\ld surprised. tution as well. I tLink we will not be Laldenga had asked for a Greater able to agree to ~hjs. Mizoram. This is the first shot which he fired from Calcutta. When several Again, Sir, you see the speeches made Cheif Minister had opposed this, the by Shri Laldenga. He has said that Prime Minister immediately raised his every Indian should obtain special passes voice and said that he agreed with the even to visit the State, much less to rest of the Chief Ministers. But then settle down and own property, land, etc. the 'fact remains that it is a basic concept Tbis is the special privilege they are of the Mizo National Front. In the year wanting to ha~e, Laldenga more than 1961 even when it was founded, the once stated in s.ivcral public meetings objective was stated to be "to unite all that they are a separate nation. Is it a the Mizos and bring them within one nation within a nation? He said, "We political boundary." Therefore, they ha ye become known to the world because stand by their demands. The Chief of we are Mizos. It is because of men who the Mizo National Army recently said tried to build the 'Mizo nation' that the u that the concept of Greater Mizoram was Mizo nation is known to the world • not given up and if they could not realise it now, sooner or later they are bound So, they call themselves a separate to realise it. They are well bent and nation, a nation within the nation. That hell bent about it on getting their dream is how it is being interpreted. Now it is fulfilled. Even in this respect the being given a separate statehood. Let us .Government have" not lagged behind. clearly understand this. Let me read the paragraph 8 in the When some officers of lAS and IPS statement laid on the Table of the House were appointed to the Mizoram 8t3te- some days back by the hone Minister. he want to the extent of writing to tbe Home Minister that they do not want "The Memorandum of settlement refers them and that those officers do not to the question of Greater Mizoram deserve to be posted there. They are which was raised by the MNF delega- not acceptable to them on grounds of merit tion and mentions that Article 3 of and suitability. He is objecting to their the Constitution of India prescribes appointlllent. So, noW Laldenga is not the procedure in this regard but that agreeable even for people coming from the Government cannot make any outside through All India services. That commitment in this respect." is the position. It is said, "They cannot make any Regarding amnesty, I must say a commitment". They have not rejected word. Even the Union Government's it they have not opposed it, they are position is that "activists still in jail entertaining this idea, they have not would not be released immediately". But closed the options, and therefore, what does Laldenga say? He'says: "On Laldenga and others are within their own completion of laying down of arms right to expect something more to hap.. remaining sentences of tbose convicted (llari Bhttam Srirama Murty) s. BUTA SINGH: All right, It 'liOJ COnte up. and serving sentences will be pardoned. Peadinl cases will be withdrawn." He Shri Madhav Reddi posed a question i& 01 that view. He declares it. Amnesty, "Do you have confidence in Shri pardon and everything bas been announ- Laldenga·' May I take the liberty of putt- cecI by him unilaterally. What does the ing the questing the other way round. I Union Minister, Mr. Ghulam Nabi Azad, think, Mr. Laldenga has confidence in the say in this regard? He says that the Government of India; that is why, this questiom of amnesty will be finalised in accord has been signed. We would really du.e cOtJrse. And what Mr. Laldenga like to pLlce our confidence. That is says I have already told you. Now, why, we went a step forward in ending wlwsc words will prevail here? Is there this two-decad~ old disturbed condition allY understanding on that aspect? Will in Mizoram. I a m sure, this House will it last at all? Now, we all wish and be one with us when we make any such pray that this strife torn area must be- effort to bring those people, who are come normal. But we have got our own misled, who are carried away, who are doubts and misgivings. I expect the taught things which do not go in con- Minister to give answer to these "00. fromity with the Constitution of India points. and the efforts which cut at the roots of the integrity and the unity of the country. S. BUTA SINGH: I am grateful to to the understanding with the ilJvolve- the hon. Members for providing me yet ment through negotiations, peaceful another opportunity to explain some of means, that their misapprehension a(e tbe misgivings that have been raised after allayed, that they are given a chance to ligning of the accord with Shri Laldenga mix. up with the rest of the country, given OIl the issue of Mizoram. a chance to feel one with the rest of the nation, given a chance to have their Most of the han. Members, who have aspirations fulfilled and their respective raised certain queries se~m to be 1ittle native places are allowed full development unaware, perhaps. they have not read the involvement in the national developmental accord itself or they have read only the erldeavours. It is this spirit which guided statements which are reported to have both the Gc,vernment of India and Shri been appearing in the press before the Laldenga to come to this accord and I am accord was signed and some controversy sure that under the dynamic leadership of which, unfortunately, triggered off after Shri Rajiv Gandhi, the Government of the accord. The Government of India's India has come out with a full-dress, a position is very clear. We do not wish complete package of development for the to look beyond what has been contained people of Mizoram. There does not needto in the accord. This is the first thing. be any more evidence of confidence and the interest of the people concerned and the So many people talked about many Government of India cannot be measured facets of the accord which are not strictly in any other way than the announcement according to the letter and spirit of the which I made a few minutes back before accord. The letter and spirit (\f the I rose to clarify some of the points raised accord is mutual confi¥nce. by the hone Members. This is a whole- some package. Shri Narayan Dutt Tiwari Ji led the team keeping in \'iew of SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: Where the solemn pledge given to the people of is the letter and where is the sp'irit ? Mizoram by our Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi, when he visited, that s. BUTA SINGH: Letter is in the Mizoram could not have its full share of clauses and spirit is behind. So both go development because for two decades the tOiether. situation of insurgency, violence, families getting involved into violent activitie~ SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The people forcing them, their own kith and spirit i& uader it. kin, to leave their State and 80 across SRAVAN~ 1, 1908 (SAKA) Calling AItetrtlo" tbe bmder, do thiq which are dem.. tbis position. Therefore, Sir, there is no lI!lelltal to tfw_ unity of the country. That question tbat this kind of a thing C08td ~s why the de~lopment of Mizoram cou Id be allowed. Th! position was made very Dot tale place alOBg with the other States clear to Shri Laldenga li. . (Interruptions). of North East. Therefore, since it was hampared, since it could not be brought SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI (Guwa- at par with the rest of the coltntry, special hati): If the position Was very clear" measures were announced, and I am then why was this paragraph inserted ia happy to announce this morning today the agreement, thereby keeping certain before this august House that we arc things open? Afler al1, anybody can. going all out to see that even the most take recourse to Article 3, even this being neglected parts of our country are given within the accord or not being within the due care and attention. accord It was specifically mentioned in the accord. Many qu estions have been raised. First of all, the issue of Greater Mizoram S. BUTA SINGH: During the has been raised. The reported statement negotiations this was mentioned by him of Shri Laldenga on Greater Mizoram and this is the answer by the Government bas raised tbis kind of. controversy. In of India which was just placed as a part the Memorandum itself it has been made of the Memorandum. amply clear, and for my salce it has been read by most of the han. Members, that Regarding the border trade, most of when this question was raised, the Consti- the bon. Members have tried to mix up tutional position Was explained to Shri the system of foreign trade with this kind Laldenga ... (Interruptions). of border trade in a local given geo- political situation. I would welcome Shri SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: What is Raghuma Reddy li to kindly use the pass the Constitutional position? given to him by the Lok Sabha Secretariat and travel all over the country bec1tuse S. BUT A SINGH: It is given in the Slttll1g here in Delhi,' coming from Memorandum itself. Shri Madhav Reddi Hyderabad, he wants to talk about tbe read it, you mentioned it. But, Sir people Jiving in Mizoram, Nagaland, whatever the Constitutional provision is Arunachal Pradesh and aJ I that. Really there, it can be done only and only jf it is very difficult. you follow that particular procedure within the Constitution of India and the SHRIC.MADHAV REDDI: Wh~ first and the foremost condition is the is the wrong in that? involvement, the participation of all the areas. And, Sir, no less than the elected S. BUTA SINGH: Nothing wrong. Chief Ministers of all the States next I want you to go and see the condittons very morning in Aizawl made it categori- under which they Jive. Sir, he has a cally clear that nothing doing, the borders card, he can go anywhere. I think as a are clearly demarcated and no State is Member of Parliament he can travel. I going to be a party to such a tbing. It think this is mentioned in the identity 'Was made clear and he accepted this card itself that from one railway station position .. ( Interruptions). to any railway station in the country he can travel and there are facilities. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Who accepted this position ? (IllterruptiollS) s. BUTA SINGH: Laldenga. 13.00 brs. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: LaJdenga . )aa. not accepted this position. SHRI R.L. BHATIA: They hayc not visited Amrilsar. S.. BUTA SINGH: Perhaps you have not accepted it. He has accepted (Interruption,) 367 Calling Attention JULY 29, 1986 Calling A.ttentlon 368 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is may say so as Tamil Nadu is not a neigh. allowed. bour of Pakistan. Similarly Mizoram has hard1y any link with China. Therefore, (Interruptions) whatever is there, it has to cross Burma or Bangladesh. This kind of border trade s. BUT A SINGH: About the places or trade whatever you may call it has been which are not linked with rail from the from centuries. RailWay station, there is transport avail- able to the remotest corners of the ( Translation] country_ SHRI HARISH RAWAT: There may not be inflow of arms under tbe SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: We are guise of trade. The name of China has not entitled to travel freely. been. mentioned in this context. S. BUTA SINGH: Those hone [English] members who are interested in studying the condition of North Eastern Region, S. BUT A SINGH: That is why I if a request is made, we will be able to made it clear that the scheme will have provido them facilities to go and meet the to be approved by the Government of people of North Eastern Region so as to India under the over all international enable them to understand the part of the trade system, rules passed by the august country which has not so far been able House. Therefore, there is nothing new to assimilate with the rest of the coun try. in this and we should not. .. (Interruptions). North East bas been neglected for this purpose. Many people in the other SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The parts of the country do not know their Home Minister gave an impression just living conditions, their culture, their now that this practice is right now in habits, their tradition. These are quite vogue in some States of the country. I different from what is available in the would like the Home Minister to point rest of the country. Why I was saying out as to which are the States whicb have this much, because Shri Raghuma Reddy this benefit? was trying to mix up certain provisions which have been made for the tribal SHRI P. NAMGY AL (Ladakh): One traditions for the culture of the tribals. is Jammu and Kashmir. It is also given in the Constitution itself. It is nothing beyond or outside the Con- HON. MEMBERS: No. stitution of India. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Let the I was mentioning about border trade. Home Minister reply? The border trade is nothing new. Most of the States which are on the border of S. BUTA SINGH: This was the other countries have this kind of practice. arrangemen t between West Bengal and These are the articles of daily consump- border areas of BaT1g1ade~h. There was tion, perishable commodities Jike veget .. a regular, some kiud of trade agreement able, fruit, food articles. All that is according to which this kind of local said is that border trade is confined to trade was allowed. These are the things. locally produced or growo agriculural The terrain is so difficult that you have commodities. Further the scbeme in this to depend upon the local availabHity, regard is to be formulated by the Central accessibility. These are perishable com- Government. This should oot be lost modities, vegetab1e, cocanber, jinger, sight of It is also subject to the inter- fruit, orange. pine apple and things like national arrangements with the neighbour- that. ina countries. There fore, this kind of border trade is sougb t to be mixed up PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Bara- with something caned an inrlependent mulla) : Was it regulated '1 West trade, whether it is with Burma of China. Bengal cannot be treated as a separate China is Dot Mizoram's neishbour if I country. It is the State of India. 369 Calling Attention SRA VAN A 7, 1908 (SAKA) Calling Attention 370 S. BUT A SINGH: My answer to this MR. DEPUTY SPEA KER: All of you question is this. The whole thing will be may please sit down. under the supervision of the Government of India. If you want me, I can read out S. BUTA SINGH: Even now what- the whole thing. But I thought this is not eJler agreements have to be made they have to be stretched beyond a point. to be made; the schemes will have to be prepared under the guidance of the Central PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: No need Government. That is what I wante9 to of reading. say. (Interruptions). Now, about the special status also, there is no such status SHRI G.G. SWELL (Shillong): I come which has been granted to Mizoram, which from a State that is also on the border is inconsistent with the provisions of the with Bangladesh. There is a long border Constitution of India. Protection of custo- with Bangladesh. I am not aware of any mary laws and practi:es have been pro- agreement on the border trade between vided in the Constitution in respect of India and Bangladesh. If there is some Nagaland al~o. The social practices and agreement of border trade between West cuStoms of Mizos are so distinct that it Bengal and Bangladesh, I would like to would not be desir3 ble to brin~ th~m at know whether the Minister would also see one shot within the range of Jaw5 made to it that there is a border trade between for others. A t the same time, the Settle- Meghalaya and Bangladesh ••• ment contains in-built provisions which enable the Mizos to integrate themselves with the rest of the country. Therefore MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER No. Your the ciiticism betr2Ys ~~ tt.:k of appreciation name is not there. of the special problems of the north east region as a whole. These problems have SHRI G.G. SWELL: Let me finish to be tackled with underst~nding, care my sentence. What have to say on a simi- and sympathy. The Constitution-makers lar ~greemfnt between rvleghalaya and had recognised this problem. It is there· Bangladesh? fore incorrect to say th~lt sp:::cial provision is against the provl~io:1s of the Constitution MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Your of India. name is not .there; please take your seat. Now. Sir, having said that I would like S. BUTA SINGH: The tlade aglee- to assurt the august House ••• ment between Indi8. and Bangladesh was signed on 28-3-72. It contains a specific SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI: One provision for bord er trade between the point ... two c(luntries. A rticle IV of the TrLlde agrt:ement mentions tbat in order to meet S. BUT A SINGH: I am coming to the day-to-day requirements of the people all the points. Why are you impatient? living within the 16 KM belt of border between West Bengal, Assam, Meghalaya One point was made about the rights Tripura and Mizoram on the one hand and privileges of the minority community. and Banglade~h on the other, and with a Perhaps that was in your mind. view to providing facilities to these people to dispose of their goods, border trade The minority tribes in Mizoram, viz., shaH be allowed in specific commodities LJk hers, Pawis and Chakmlls have been as provided in the agreement. Although given a measure of ~mtonomy and self- as a result of this ~greement border trade governance in t heir day to day affairs between the two countrirs st~rted in the under the Sixth Schedule to the Consti- middle of April, 1972, it was discontinued tution. During the talks the MNF bad from October, 1972. (Interrputions) There demanded a bol i t ion of District Councils fore, this Las been there in fact. \\ hat is for Chakmas. The minority tribes were, wrong if I have stated that? therefore, apprehensive about their interests knowing the stand of MNF on the issue and (Interruptions) represented to the Go\" ,'rnment that their JUNE 3, ,,... MattfNu...... n7 372 IS. Buta Singh] that, this House is the competent forum and the Constitution is a documeat which rights should be protected. In order to has to be amended. allay tbe fears of minority tribes, not only tbe Government did not accept the demand If tbe bon. Member can do without of MNF but included a specific provision it, I will be very happy, if he can spare me in the Settlement that the rights and from this kind of work. privileges of the minority tribes as envisaged under the Constitution would be preserved (Interruptions) and protected and their economic and social advancement would be ensured. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The House Therefore, the minorities of Mizoram have stands adjourrud for Lunch and would welcomed this Accord. This is a proof. re-assemble at 2.10 p. m. The minorities feel that their interests and rights are well safe guarded under the 13.12 brs. Accord itself. The Lok Sabha then adjourned for Lunch Now, Sir some hOll. Members wanted till ten minutes past Fourteen of the clode. , an assurance that the MNF will not ex tend their activities to help the extremist groups. This has been made amply dear in some The Lok Sabha reassembled after I."ch tit of the statements which have appeared Fifteen Minutes past Fourteen of 'lte after the Accord was signed, after Mr. Clock. Laldenga went to Mjzoram. This has come out in those statements. The MNF [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the e"ir] itself has made it categorically clear that it has nothing to do with some organisations MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 which are working against the interests of the county, which are indulging in viol- [Translation.] ence. They said, they have no connection (i) Need to extend the Haldia-A1lahabad with those organisations. I can only hope that in future also, while this Accord is National Waterway up to Kanpur being applied, while it is being worked, SHRI JAGDISH AWASTHI (Bilhaur) the MNF will keep their solemn pledge Sir, under Rule 377, I would like to draw and they will devote their full attention, the attention of the Government to the undivided attention for the betterment of following matter- the people of Mizoram, for the develop- ment of Mizoram. With a view to accelerating and impro- ving the transport system in the country, With these words, I h'Ope tbat I have the Government have, besides the Rail met m06t of the points raised by the bon. transport, declared the river OaDI8 from Members. Allahabad to Haldia as a National Water- way so as to utilize the big rivers as water- SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI : Clause 4 ways, which is a com~ndable step. (2) mentions about the amendment of the Unfortunately, the major industrial town Constitution. May I know, in what res- like Kanpur of Uttar Pradesh whicll is pvct the COBstitution is going to f"\e situa ted atong the river Ganga has not amended? been included in the said W'at-erwa, wIlereas its inclusion is justified from every point (Interruptions) of view. S. BUTA SINGH: Sir, a very impor- I, therefore, request the Gev"mtnent taat arr30gement as a result of this Accord of India that a fresh survey may be eon- .. the &rant of statehood to Mizoram. ducted and Kanpur may be iDcluded in the Yes. it is necessary. It is because# the above national waterway tn order to prescnt *enltb of the Assembly is 30 and ensure the speedy industrial development the DUmber hae to be increased. For of Kanpur. 313 Ai.,.. VnJ,n Aule.. 3'1, BRA VANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Mlllle'8 Untie, Rule 311 314 (iI) Neecl to connect Giridib with K ...... astban State, has been tentatively examiaod. I and Kodarma with Hazaribagh by a for setting up a Navodaya Yjdyalaya as railway tiDe. per the new Education Policy of the Government.. Selected talented stud~Dts SHRI TJLAKDHARI SINGH of rural areas would get impetus iD their (Kodarma) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, educational, academic career in su~h insti- uocter Rule 377 I would like to raise the tutions. These institutions would be able foUowina matter ;- to create an environmental and academic improvement in outlook and thinking of Hazaribagh cir<:le of Bihar State should students. The spirit of national integration, be linked by a railway line. For this pur· secularism and patriotism would be deeply poses, a raiJw;lY line should be laid from imbibed in the character of students Giridih to Kodarma and from Kodarma studying in these institutions. The Union to Hazaribagh. Previously, many Railway Government have to come forward with a Ministers made an announcement regarding time-bound programme of-providing at least Jinkins of Hazaribagh with a railway line. one such educational institution in eacb But so far no action has been taken. and every district of the nation. But the present pace of progress in selection Of I would request the Government to sites, providing funds, pattern of teaching link Hazaribagh with Giridih and Kodarma staff and school curriculum needs accelera- with Hazaribagh by a railway line. tion in .his matter. [English] I, therefore, urge upon the Government of India to accelerate the process of setting (iii) Need to seod. team to Abmednagar up a Navodaya Vidyalaya in the rural area to RuesS the gra,ity of sihiatloD of District Alwar, Rajasthan State, so that caused by droaght aDd to render nece- students of rural areas may SOOD ,et an ssary relief to the (aflBers. opportunity to exhibit their talent and ability. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL (Kopars&on) : Sir, for the last three years t the condition of Ahmednagar district is (y) Need to est.bUsh a centre,for womea , highly deplorable in all aspects, e. g. due studies at BerbRmpar UIriYenity of to absence of the rain, its entire area is Orissa to carryon research sfadIeI OIl uDder the grip of famine. The farmers' tbe de,elopmellt .r womell. and the people's condition has gone from bad to worse. They are to walk miles SHRI SOMNATH RATH (Aska) : The together in search of water. The drought setting up of the department for human has affected adversely thousands of acres resources development has drawn the of sugarcane and grape crops, horticulture attention on the fact that women in India and vegetable crops. This has resulted constituted the largest unprivileged section in Don-repayment of loans to tbe Banks of society and needed to be brought on a by the small and medium farmers. The par with men by encouraging wider parti- area of the entire district shou Id be covered cipation of the women at aU levels of in the Crop In8\Jrance Schemo for the above activity. The Prime Minister bas appro. crops in 1985-86. Government should swe priately emphasized on the functions of send a team to study the whole situation the voluntary organisations with appro- and to help the Carmers. Their grievances priate programme chalked out by the are genuine and the Government may Jook various ministries, especially for the into them. development of women and children. (Iv) Need to accelerate the process or setting up a "Nayodaya Vidya'aya" in rural I propose the Centre for Women area or district Alwar, RaJa.than. Studies be encouraged to carryon research studies on the development of women. A SHaI RAM SINGH Y ADAV (Alwar) : centre for Women's Studies may be establi- Sir, the rural area of District Alwar. Raj- shed at Berbampur University of Orisaa,. 315 Matters Under Rule 371 JULY 29, '1986 Matter, Under Rule 37' 3'6 [Trails/at ion] [English] (vii) Need to settle the long-standing (vi) Need to provide adequate finaDcial demands of Gramin Bank emplo- assistance to the state Government of yees. Rajasthan for rendering relief to victims of heavy rains in Kota, Bundi, Jhalallar SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH (Ulu- and other areas of Rajasthan. bel ia): Thousands of Gramin Bank employees have come to Delhi from diffe- rent parts of the country to stage a Dharna a t Boat Club today (29.7.1986) under the SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL (Kota) : banner of All India Regional Rural Bank Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in my consti- Employees Association to fulfil their long- tuency crops worth of crores of rupees standing demands. The demands include have been destroyed, hundreds of people immediate structural change ensuring have been killed and thousands of houses viability of Gramin bank equal pay for have been washed away, due to heavy equal job, creation of negotiating forum. rains. In Kota city alone, more than 50 regularis..ltion of messengers and promo .. persons have died and more than 500 tion policy for officers etc. houses have 'been destroyed and movable property worth crores of rupees has been Different study groups appointtd by washed away in the floods. the government on Reserve Bank of India ha ve highly appreciated the sincere efforts of Gramin Bank staff for the effective implementation of a]] Government pro- Many ponds constructtd in Kota at the grammes meant for rural poor. These time when it was a princely sta te, are in banks are running in losses in spite of best ruins due to the carelessness of the Admini- results. They are known for service to stration and thousands of hectares of land the poor and reasons for loss are inbuilt is under 3 to 10 f1. of water. Hundreds Ethical norm of equal pay for equal job of cattlehead have perished due to floods. has been denied. To ensure viability and Raw material worth crores cf rupees has equal pay for equal job, let the structure been lost in several factories. The District be reorganised. Administration has sought the assistance of several social organisations of Kota but I urge upon the Government to take that is completely inadequate. The State pos.itive steps to fulfil their long standing Government does not have the capacity to demands negotiating with the representa- compensate even 10 or 20 per cent of the tives of All India Regional Rural Bank loss suffered in Kota, Bundi and Jha]awar Employees Association and solve the pro- districts. bJem in the interest of the rural poor. (viii) Need to amend tbe handloom reser- vation order to protect the silk Therefore, through you I request the powerloom industry and handloom Government of India, to give orders to industry in Karoataka. tbe State Governmen t Lo conduct a survey about the flood rJfected people of Kota, SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore Bundi and Jhalawar Districts immediately. South): The reservation of 22 items such Central Government should provide finan- as special sarees, dhotis and lungis with cial help to the State Government to com- borders any other embelIishments for pensate the loss of life and property and hand looms has seriously affected the weIJ also issue strict orders to the State Govern- being of nearly 75,000 powerloom opera- ment to imm,"?diately srift flood prone tors in Bangalore district and other areas colonies to other p]a~f..s It sLould also be of the State which were pioviding employ- asked to provide financLd help and loans ment to 15 Jakh persons. Most of the to the poor people and to assist them in exportable silk goods of Karnat aka which reblfildiol tbe1r houses.and for immediate have an excellent international demand repatrs'Of damaled ponds, canals:and roads. are manufdctured on power)ooms only. 377 Matlers Under Rule 377 SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAkA) Out of 30,000 silk power]ooms in the· MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is not country, 23,000 are in Karnataka alone. a new thing. Many things we have Out of these more than 90% of power loom discussed like that. If the House feels .. units are having one to four powcrlooms installed in their residential places and are PROF. f\1_ADHU DANDAVATE : .00 working on cottage industry with the not do it by vote. owner and their family members provid- ing the labour force. By Handloom MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am Reservation Order, these powerlooms are not going to put it to vote. 1 am just severely affected. It win result in throw- putting before the House. ing 10 hlkhs of people out of jobs. Out of total export of silk, more than 38% in (Interruptions) 1985-86 is from powerloorn sector. The silk ex-fabric export will come down due PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: You have to handloom reservation order resulting in a commitment with us. loss in precious foreign exchange. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: It will set It is requestp,d that immediate action a bad precedent. should be taken by the Centre to amend the Handloom Reservation Order suitably SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Sir, no so that both the silk powcrloom industry re.1Son has been given. Some valid reason and handloom industry in Karnataka will must be given. What is the reason for survive. This is a matter of urgent public it ? importance affecting 15 1akh persons in Karnataka. (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Let us MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, the hear her. Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs. SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT: Please give me the opportunity to ten you (Interruptions) the reason. At 3 p.m. there is a meeting and the Home Minister bas to attend that THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE meeting because the meeting has been MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY calJed by the Prime Minister with hone AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI SHEILA Members of the Opposition. Therefore, we DIKSHIT): Sir, I beg to propose and will not be able to finish this. It is with all the humility and affection at my aheJdy 2.25 p.m. command seek the cooperation of the House that item No. 8 UFurther discsusion MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: At 3.30 on the situation in Punjab" may be taken p. m there is Business Advisory Committee up after item No.9. meeting. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: This is something unparliamentary. Further dis- SHRIMA1I SHEILA DIKSHIT: It cussion on Punjab is a listed item. it an important matter and therefore. I suggest that we may postpone it. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. No. It is not unparliamentary. ( Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. There is some sanctity about the Business, Deputy Speaker, there was some informal before the House for tbe day. According meeting with the Home Minister and to that everybody plans his activities. In some draft is being disc.ussed. An fact, she wants aberration and distortion Opposition members have said that it is of the Order Paper. We want to maintain not acceptable to us. They want to see ita sanctity. whether in . the meeting with the Prime !ULy ~. 1986 [Prof. Madhu Dandavate] Yesterday, we have decided that we could spare only ono bour, ineludiDI the Minister it can be thrashed out I It is not possible at all. Minister's reply. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: No MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: That is Sir. Two hours. an entirely different matter. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You go ( Interruptions) into the record, if you have any doubt. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Sir, this (Interruptions) Punjab discussion will require at least two hours. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: The Home Minister will take at least one hour MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Only one Sir. hour. We decided one hour. SHRI G.G SWELL: Sir, I think ~IR DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, no. the rules permit for the House to vary the Yesterday we decided that we would take Order Paper of the day accOlding to the one hour including the Minister's reply. exigencifs. (Interruptions) Three members were yet to speak, but at that time Shri Sharma has taken his MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I request chance. So, only two are left. I have the Members to take their seat. already told you Who the two persons are. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: These are the enabling powers of the (Interruptions) House but they have not been used. SHR! S. JAIPAL REDDY: My name MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Prof. was there. You did not allow me to SOI, please take your seat. speak. I t is there on the record Sir. AN HON. MEMBER: Please take MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Every consent. party has to be given a chance. There- fore Shri Madhu Dandavate spoke for MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We will lanata Party. I never told that Shri take consent. Jaipal Reddy's name is there. (In terrupt iOl1s) SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY : You agreed for three speakers Sir. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: You must support us. (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: What MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We told about tbe otbers' consent? I am only that we have only one hour. The Mini- teBina you ..• ster has gone out and definitely he cannot come and reply just now. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Soz, you please take your seat. SHRI G.G. SWELL: We are loing away from the main point. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SQZ: I have already taken my seat Sir. (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You are SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Who 8tin standing up and you say you have has to speak (rom aSP? Clnterru.ltion.r) taken your scat. 'SII SRAVAMA " 1908 (SAKA) 382 MR. DEPUT¥ SPEAKER: Only PROF. MADHU DANDA VA TE : two or three speakers arc left", Reply can be given even tomorrow because that is the insignificant part of the SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: No, debate. DO. There are four. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMBN- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, not TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF four. There are only t'Wo. So, tbis will FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI be over in half an hour. And if at all, I H.K.L. BHAGAT): Why are you all wil1 see that t<1day itself at about 4 PM making an issue out of it? The whole or 4.30 PM, whether the Minister can thing is so insignificant. come and give the reply. Now for some time, we will take up this 193. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You are angry with us Sir. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: At least four hours must be allotted for this com- (Interruptions) missi<>ns of Inquiry Act. At six, you will adjourn the House. I cannot allow it. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will proceed now . We are taking up only 193 SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT: Can and we have got half an hour. I make a submission Sir? SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Many of (/nterruptiolfs). us have to speak on the Bill on Commis- sions of Inquiry Act. We will have to go SHRI G.G. SWELL: We -are going away to the Prime Minister's meeting. away from the main point. The Minister You were saying that this would be over of State for Parliamentary Affairs has in half an hour. Isn't it ? brought a proposal that the order of the day can be varied. That is tbe point. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We are The order of the day could be varied. going to take up 193 only for half an hoar. And sbe was good enough to give reasons Then we will take up the Commissions of for this. That is the subject and let us Inquiry A ct. If the Minister returns, he decide about it. win reply. (Interruplio1l8) SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: When will we speak on Commissions of Inquiry SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT: In Act? • a spirit of cooperation-and I am under- Iimng the word 'cooperation'-we can MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: 4 hours have the discussion today. As for the time is there. You are welcome to repiy, we will leave it to the Home Mini- speak. aler to his convenience because we cannot adjust the time. Sir, there is another point. If you remember, yesterday last, SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Others can participate. What is there? we bad decided to have one hour-balf an hour for the speakers and half an hour SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: We have for the Minister's reply. I do hope that to go to this meeting and then there is the hOD'ble members will stick to this half the Business Advisory Committee meeting an hour schedule. also. When can we speak ? THE MiNISTER OF STATE IN THE MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Vou are MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC welcome to come and join the discussion. GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINI· Anyway other members will be participa- STRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI P. ting. CHIDAMBARAM): It was aareed to yesterday. 383 JULY 29. 1986 Dis. re : Situation in Punjab 384 hn. Delhi also showed some restraint. There.. fore, I pay my tribute to the people of DISCUSSION RE: SITUATION IN Delhi also. PUNJA B-Contd. I have promised that I will not delve [English] deeper and repeat the details. Therefore, THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- I will try to be very brief, but I request TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF the Deputy Speaker to bear with me. I FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI will now go to Punjab situation briefly. H.K L. BHAGAT): Mr. Indrajit Gupta, Mr. B:trnala's response to Muktsar bas not been pleasant to me. know Mr. it is not the intention that you go to that I meeting, and you cannot speak on the BarnaL.l's compulsions. I ha vt' all sympa- thys for him and his colleagues. They Bill on Commission of Inquiry. are involved in a very difficult situation, but the expression 'backlash' not MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We take has given us any hope. and he should not up discussion under Rule 193. Now Prof. have used this expression at all, because Soz -a maximum of ten minutes. it is not the Sikhs alone who voted Mr. Barnala and his party to power in Punj1b. PROF SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): is the SIkhs, Hindus and Muslims- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the massacre It whatever be the numb~r of Muslims in of innocent bus passengers at muktsar Punjab, Who voted him to power. In sent a wave of shock, anger and remorse Jammu and Kashmir, whenever we speak throughout the length and bre'ldth of the of unity, we spe.1k of Hindus, Muslims country, and my p.uty has sirongly con- and Sikhs together. We do not leave how- demned this barbaric massacre of innocent ever, out the Sik hs. people. I wi)) not go into the details now, and will not repeat what my collea- Shere Kashmir Ka kya irshad, gues have said here; but I will only plead Hindu Muslim Sikh Ittehad with the Government of India and the Home Minister. So, it is the Hindus and Sikhs together Now the Treasury benches are repre- who voted Akalis to power there. So, I sented only by Mr. Chidambararn, the feel it is squarely the responsibility of the lady Minister of State for Parliamentary Akali Dal Government in Punjab to Affairs. and Mrs. Ram Dulari Sinha I restore perfect peace in Punjab. want to impress upon the Government of I do not say that they should be con- India that the nation wants an end to this cerned with what is happening in Delhi, barbaric activity. wherever it takes place. they should not be more concerned with Punjab is in turmoil. Therefore, if you Delhi. Let them leave Delhi to the care have to prove your nerve, your resolve, of the Centr:tI Government or Whatever you prove it in Punjab. authorities there are; and they should not be concerned primarily with the In the aftermath of Muktsar in Delhi, blckJast ; they should be concerned how I must say that the Government here and why innocent people are kiJled in deserves a word of praise because Govern.. Punjab. ment of India and its agencies responded to the Delhi situation quickly and contro)- Now there is some hope. Punjab is led it. I must congratulate the Prime burning; PUIlj.lb is in turmoil, but I see Minister, the Home Minister, and J must some hope. Yesterday, I saw a news- also congratulate the people of Delhi It paper report that Baba Amte lost all was mentioned in today~s Hindustan Times hope and he is agitating and moving from that "Delhi has shown restraint". I know Amritsar to Delhi; and when he organises Delhi has areas where Trishuls are being a Pad-yatra. I can convey to· the hon. manufactured. There was some pressure. Deputy Speaker and Madhuij that we There were some killings, arson and loot. must join it. But Baba Arnte should not But ~ not only has the Government lose hope. He said his mission has failed. responded quickly, but tbe people of I want to convey to him through you- 385 Dis. re : Situation in Punjab SEA VANA 7. 1908 (SAKA) bi,. re : SituatioN In Punjab 384 he is a spiritual authority-that tbere is respond. But we can urge Badalsahib and every hope that his mission will succeed ; others to join Mr. BarnaJa. We want a we win have to succeed. I want to strong Akali Government there. We want remind Baba Amte that in a Sikh village, BarnaJa to rise to the occasion and assure entirely Sikh village; there is only one us that he will help restore peace in Hindu family. I have forgotten the name Punjab. of the viUage. That Hindu family is not only there, but for that viJ1age, a Regarding border with Pakistan, every Sarpanch was elected there from the time people will say that Pakistan has Hindu family; Sarpanch is drawn from been participating in this drama of dest- that family. Hindus and Sikhs and abilising our country. But Pakistan bas Muslims of this country are not essentially been denying tha t charge an d refusing to communal. So, therefore, we have every admit any of the charges that we levelled hope that the people of Punjab win against Pakistan. I read in tbe synopsis respond to the situation and they win this morning that Mr. Bhatia has made a contribute to the strength, unity and inte- suggestion. In the border with Pakistan, grity of India. So, Baba Arnte and all of there could be an area of 3-5 kms. which us together should join the peace march you hand over to the army; and if you and restore amity and an atmosphere of cannot acquire it, if the government cannot peace in the troubled area of Punjab. So, acquire it, then you can get it on lease. now, Baba Amte and others, whosoever Firstly, it win be possible for you to are interested in the unity and integrity acquire it, but if you cannot get it, then of India, should not lose hope, whatever get it on Jease and solve this problem; are the expressions cf the Akali Govern- it is not difficult. So, you do that. ment. You must ~how nerve only to contain the elements You say all the PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): Get time tbat there are anti-social elements. it on lease from whom ? I beg to differ. You should say, politi- caUy motivated anti-social and anti-natio- AN HON. MEMBER:' From the nal elements. After all, \"hat is happen· f:umers. ing ill Punjab? May be these elemenis are not merely anti-social elements. S~e PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Sir, the what happened in Ahmedabad. Thes~ greatest responsibility falls on the shoulders were not only rowdy elements but thes'~ of the Home Minister. were motivated rowdies. So, you wJl have to control thf'm. For example, Ll SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE Ahmedabad, it is not anti-social elemenls ; (Bolpur): Which Home Minister? I must tell you that it was Hindu Vishwa Parishad. I bad met some peopJe While PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: The we were in the Circuit House; some Union Home Minister, Shri Buta Singh. people drawn from the intelligence agen- cies said that they were Indians first; they But, as the Times of India bas said bad informed the government that poHti- yesterday, it should not be rhetoric for cally motivated anti-social elements the galleries. He should be specific. were doing were in Ahmedabad and else- where. So, what ic; to be done? The Now, it is not that I am comparing Central Government should continue to the situation in Punjab with that in support the Akali D,ll Government in Ahmedabad. I am not counting the Punjab and it must help BarnaJa Govern- number of those people who were burnt ment to be up and doing. This phrase alive in Ahmedabad. Six members of a is rather used deliberately today. Barnala family were burnt alive while a five-mem- has to decide whether he will run Punjab ber contingent of SRP was standing. And, or not and we must appeal to Badal and it is the Hindus who had told me that the otbers to join their ranks; they must join SRP did not interfere. The list of the back AkaJi Dal. But it is not that easy people who were responsible for burninl that on my advice or even if we pass a them alive was available witb the Chief resolution tbat Prakash SinSh Badal will tdinistef and police Commissioner. The [Prof. Saifuddia Soz} MR. DBPUTY-SPEAKER : You baw. taken more than five minut..., please sit Polk» Commissioner was balf laalhingly down DOW. Prof. Kurien. admittins tbat he had tho list of thole c"lprit8 with binl. PROF. SAIFUDDJN SOZ : ram eJoI.. ing now. MR. DEPUTY-SEPAKER: Please wi_ up now. MR.. DEPUTY -SPEAKER You are not to close. You sit down. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Now, Sir. the Home Minister said so much PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I am yesterday that he would punish the holiest drawing your attention that there is a of holy but be should be more specific report in the Press, that these tri&Ub which aDd punish those who are guilty. cost them. Rs. 12/- each are sold for .Rs. 220/-eacb. Mil. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, please sit down. Prof. Kurien. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: That ia all. Prof. Kurien. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Let me coDCladc. I have to lay a inal word. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ Thil is very important, Sir. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER You please sit down. Prof. Kurien. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER You are encroaching upon other Members' time. I SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: A have allowed only five minutes but YOD Professor against another. have tclken more thaD ten minutes now. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Sir. this PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I want to Punjab problem is not the problem of Sbri say that no political party should take advantage of the situation. Rajiv Gandhi. It is not also the problem of the Congress Party It should be treated as a national problem, because India's unity MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER. Nothing and integrity is involved. Therefore, my will go OD record now. party and my own self, we are against any PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: •• poHtical party takina any political ad van- tage of the situation in Punjab, and there- fore it must go on record that I feel that MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER Prof. the Bandh that had been organised yester- Soz, please sit down. You are not coopera- day in DeJhi was uncalled for and the ting; you have taken more than ten Government of India responded to the minutes. You sit down. situation aad controlled the situation. Otherwise many wrong things could have Prof. Kurien. OnJy five minutes. happened. PROF. P. J. KURIBN (Idukki) MR.. DEPUTY-SPEAKER.: Please sit Thank you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. May I down aow. otherwise I will say that your start by expressing my sympatbi~s ..• speech will Itot go on record. (Interruptions) PROP. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I am con- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: OnlY five cWJq. lu Delhi what is happeninl? I minutes, please. waitt to pose a question. TTil"J, are beill8 lIWDufaetur~ here it bas become a busi .. PROF. P. J. KURIEN: Please &lve Dell for _ti-aational and communal eJc- me seven minutes. May 1 tint elp~.8 my 1DOIltI. sympathies to tbe families of tboso iooo- sat Dl,. re: Sitqlltlon In I'lPI}ah SIlAVANA 7,19D8 (SAKA) DI,. re: SitUlltJon In PUIl}aIJ itO ceDfI who were mauaaed by dte terrorists say, if his Cabinet Members are taltiac .. in IItddsar. At the laIDe time. I WAIlt to different lones, where is the will or the I pay my COmplimeDts to the people of GO\feI11.lDCDt. Otherwise, -.e altoul. pnwo \ Delhi and lurroudiDI places like Haryaaa before country that he n sinoare to die etc. for the restraint they are showing and cause by chaoging those MioisterL TIll that they are Dot actin. in a way as the Ooverament should act with detcrmioatj_. t.errotilts want tbem to behave. Barnala Governmellt is IIOt baviaJ ... aad that is the basic problom. In this connection I also compliment tbe Union Oo-vernmeat and the concerned Secondly, it is said that most of tIM State Governments for their prompt action policemen at the lower ranks are btu. in supressing any reaction that could have links with the terrorists. If that is so, I emer,eci from the terrorists action. ha ve to make a point. Change that police. Gel SO percent of the police personnel As Prof. Soz has just now said, this is from other States and sead to PDDjab not the time for political parties to take along with police personnel from Puaja~ any political advantage. This is tbe time and then tr~ to sotve the problotn rat_ when political parties should join together tban saying that the police force is aot and cooperate with the Government in dependent. solving the problem. He has mentioned about yesterday's bandh and consequent Mr. Barnala Ilad said that declsioa or violence that have taken place. Such operation action was leaked out. Ho. can action wilJ never ftelp in solving these pro- it be leaked out? He should find out. Tbis blems. Instead all political parties should only shows the lack of will on the part of join together and go to every house in the Barnala Government to act. Tile Punjab and try to reach the message of Bamala Goyemment should act with will peace and communal harmony to every and that they should show that tltor have borne lether than conducting bandbs and the will. aggravating the situation. Sir, this is the question of terrori-. What is the real problem in Punjab? Terrorism is ouly the maajfestatiofl aM InitiaIly it was thought that it was a poli- design of our enemies to destabilise oar tical problem. It is not a political problem. country. It is Dot only in Pllnjab. Are y. If it were a political problem, now since not seeing a pattern its violence, and tbe Akali Dal is in power there, this should agitation, that is taking place in Ahmeda- have been solved. It is not because of bad, Kalimpong and other places? ThOle tbe fact that Chaodigarh is not transferred are part of the devices of our enemies to to Punjab. Everybody knows that Govern- destabilise our country. ment is committed to the transfer of Chandigrah to Punjab. Can anybody assure Sir, we should think as to wby our that after Chandigrah is transferred to youth is becoming tools in the hands of Punjab, &errori&m win stop. I don't think our enemies. Our ,06 th especially in u)lbody can. Actually the problem there Punjab, is more prone to become tools ia is one of law and order and the other if the hands of our enemies? Why is tbet terrorism emanati!!i from the international so 1 We should loot into tbis aspect. What desing, to destabilise our country. If it is I feel is that it is our own fault. Our owa a law and order problem, who is to tackle fault I mean it is basically the fault of it T It is the Barna)a Government itself. Akali Dal in Punjab. Please execase my Barna.a Government should act not in a saying that Politics based on reI ision, vaeinatjng way but with strong will. They Government being ruled from Gurdwaras. should have the win to act. I have seen If tbe Government is ruled from Our- some s.tatements in the press that some dwaras or temples or churches or mo&qtlcs, Ministers in his own Cabinet have been then what else can bappen. You are creat- critieisiDI the action of tbe police official ing youths who are more religiously fana- in takina strong action against terrorists. tics but less partiotic. Thlt is what you Sir, tlle CaW&et is uviaa coIlectiv~ ar.o llaviaa ia Pwja.b. I td1 ,. ~ __ responsibility. Whatever Mr. Barnala may if you taQkle tbe terrorists wbo ve ",_. ~91 Dis. re: Situation in Pllnjab 1ULY 29J 1986 DJ8. U ,. Situation tn PIl1l}IIb 392 [Prof. P. J. Kurien] Union Government is trying to live every help to assist him. That is good enough. ting now. The problem will not be solved. But still the Union Government baa to You are creating more and more terrorists solve so many things which have come there by the very fact that the Govern- together. The problem of terrorists i. there. ment is controUed from the Gurdwara. If The House unanimously denounces their y.ou want-excuse me for being blunt-to activities because it amounts to a danger solve tbis problem, separate religion from to the unity and integrity of the nation. politics. For that matter, not only in Punjab, in any State of this country if To solve the Punjab problem, we have politics is mingled with religion, you can- brought too many things together-transfer not rule this country in peace. (Inlerrup- of Chandigarh to Punjab, river water pro- 110M). blem terrorists problem and the demand for Khalistan. All have come together. So, SURI S. JAIPAL REDDY: His party how to tackle it ? It is a national problem. is having alliance with the communal par- It is not that Barnala should come for- ties in Kerala and he wants to isolate ward and solve all these problems. I religion from politics. How is that suggest that Shri Barnala, the Chief possible? Minister of Punjab, can at least change the name of Punjab and call it * as has PROF. P. J. KURIEN : Therefore, been done in the case of Andhra Pradesh, Sir, the basic question is that politics and Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra. Like those religion should be separated and the pre- States, Punjab can alse be changed to sent situation in Punjab which is condu- * There is no difficulty in doing tbat .•• / cive to creating terrorists should be elimi- (Interruption,) nated. That is the responsibility of the Darnala Government. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it should not be One more point I would like to make. allowed to go on record ... (Interruptions) It is said that terrorism is encouraged by our enemies outside the country. It is a fact MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will go Mr. Barnala himself has said that he has through the record. the evidence that the terrorists are being trained from across the border, from the SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: What I am other side of the border. The Hon. Home asking is not that * should be acknow- Minister himself said this in this House. ledged. What I am sying is only as some That being the case, we should do some- other States have changed their names, if thing. Why not we should seal our borders the people of Punjab like, the name of if other means are not successful. What is Punjab may also be changed to • the difficulty in sealing our borders '1 This question should be taken up at the higher MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Most of level with the Pakistan Government. the States are named on the basis of their Therefore, what is required is strong and language. The name Punjab is also based stitT action at every front, not only on the on Punjabi language. They will not change part of both the Governments but also on it. the part of the political parties and especiaJ1y on the part of the Barnala SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY : Regarding Government. the transfer of Chandigarh in lieu of some land to Haryana, I want to bring this to SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY (Alipurduara) : your kind notice. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, every sympathy goes to Barnala Government because he I lS.OO hra_ is figb1i1l1 an undeclared War and the enemies also are not identified. So, that When the Stat.e of Andhra Pradesh Government is facing sreat troubJe. The was reorganised, no compensation wu ~9~ bi". re: Situation in Punjab SRAVANA '. 1908 (SAICA) bll. re: Situation In Puujah 394 given for Joss of Madras to Andhra same emphasis. Yesterday, Prof. Madhu Pradesh ; likewise Gujarat for Dandavate made a beautiful speech but Bombay or Assam for ShilloDg. Why are one or two points in his speech showed \ you saying here that after the transfer of his narrowmindedness. He had said that Chandigrah to Punjab something should the young Prime Minister had entered be given 10 Haryana; likewise for water into Punjab Accord in haste. Two days also. before the assassination of Sant Longowal t I was in Sangrur. On that day elaborate For compensation to Haryana, there arrangements were being made in a Hindu must be a metropolitan capital and the temple to receive Sant Longowal and it expenses should be borne by the Central seemed that the arrangements were not Go"ernment. Haryana would be very much for a political leader but for a saint. From happy and they should get water too. the faith reposed in Sanl LongowaJ in Hindu temple. it appeared that the old MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please values and culture of Punjab would once conclude. again be restored that it would join the nation's mainstream But it was unfortu.. , SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY : There are so nate for India that Sant Longowal was many suggestions which I want to give. assassina ted. Thereafter elections were held in Punjab. The supporters of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can Congress voted for Shri Barnala, who give in writing. Nothing will go on record. became the successor of Sant Longowal. ([nterruptions)* * Had anybojy else received the help which Barnala Government had received [Trans/ation] from the Central Government, to my mind he would have ruled Punjab in a SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD manner that he would have emerged as a YOGESH (Cbatra): Mr. Deputy Speaker, national leader and would 'have been Sir, I thank you for inviting me to speak. welcomed by the people of India as a Tulsidas has said: hero. But it is unfortunate that such incidents happened in Punjab. The Central Alakh Kehhin, Dekhan Chalhin, Government is being blamed for the Banhi Budh Malin reaction in Delhi to the kiIlings in Those who believe God to be invisible Muktsar. But before accusing the Central and ethereal and still wish to see Him, Government you should look at your own ridicule their own intelligence. We have deeds also. All the political parties have heard a lot of comments in the House. appreciated the work of the Delhi My hone colleagues talked about partiot- Administration and of the Prime Minister ism, secularism and national integrity but with one voice. The Prime Minister con .. some of them talked about thiogs which eluded the Punjab accord in the nation's make me laugh. Yesterday, when one of our interest and not with a view to form his colleague from Punjab was speaking, it own Government there. seemed that he was taking terrorist acti- vities in Punjab very lightly. Regarding him, I want to say: [English] TuJhe Bulbule ae Ranginia Sujhi hai SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Please gane ki, permit me to speak. Magar mujhe padi hal phikr tere Aashiane kl MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER.: Only half an hour I said. Only one minute Whatever is said in the House should] more. A ny suggestion you can make. also be spoken outside the House with the That is all. ··N9t recorded, }9J bu.,~: Situation In PlDljab JUL~ ~. 1986 Dis r~ : Situation J" Pu"Jab jf& SHRI v. X1SHORE CHANDR.A S. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yesterd., DEO : Sir, I have given my name. names were given. Your name was not there. If there are others, it will tate MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Too late. another one bour. W.t caD I do '1 SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDR.A S. DEO : I did not give it because we could always give our names as long as debate is SHRI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN not concluded. I have been a member of OWAISI (Hyderabad): Yesterday, my the House for 10 years. Before discussion name was ca lIed. has started soday, I have given my name and have done all along. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY (Gopalpaj): Hon. Deputy Speaker, Sir, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Only 3 I waat to raise a point of order. You are persons can be allowed, I said it yesterday. IIaoring tile indepe n den t Members by aUottial &bem one minute's time but you SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. .to nol treat other party Members, in this DEO : I game my name before the dis- manDer it is Dot a good practice, jf this is cussion started today. dte tra4ition of the House then we walk- out of the House. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER. Now, Shri Owaisi. (8,," KIIIi PNMUl Ptlllthy ti,e" lelt the llfHut!) [Translation] SHRI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN OW AISI (Hyc1erabad): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I express my sympathies witlt MR.. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I can the persons affected in the Muktsar inci- allow oa)y OM. I c::aDBot allow more than dent. Along with this, I would like to OM frem the party. say the problem of Punjab has to be con- sidered very seriously. This problem [Trll1l8latlfm] cannot be solved by blaminl eacll other or by inflaming emotions. We have to SHRI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN ensure the survival and implementation OWAISI: Whate1'er happened in Maktnr of the Punjab Accord. It has been tDOI"C in Punjab no doubt, I am .... (Intt!1'r"plion8) or less implemented With the only bind- rance of 20,000 acres of land. It does not (&wILth) behave us to spoil the Accord jUlt for 20,000 acres of land. After atl, this land BHRl V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. would remain in India whether it goes to boo : Are you followina any pattern or Haryao8 or to Punjab. We should aot method? make it a bODe of contention aad tllal aggravate the problem OR tbe otber MB.. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes. You band, I express my sympathies to Mr.. have not giVttl the name yesterday. Your Bamala, because one hal to Siva weiald Dame was not there yesterday. and due consideration to tbe extremely disturbed conditions in which Barnala SHRJ V. KISHOKB CHANDRA S. Government was formed. We should DEO : I have Jiven my name today. afford him an opportunity and SUlJPort him to brUt. about a solution of the pro- lB.. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Just DOW blem. In case we do not want to take .)'bU are .11i.. me. this step, tho otber alternative is that we lIlould solve tltis problem with oar f1Ji1 J1JlI.x:_~~~Jt_E ~ CH~P!A s. _ mi,bt. Otherwise, our week-kneed QoJicy DEi:) : You laid you will Dot allow. 'tb'1I #or lapportlDI him on lbe on. baud. amt If aot tile ••,- criticiain& him OD tbe odIer," ...... j" Di,. re : ~JtlltltJq In Punjab SaAVANA ;, j908 (SAltA) hi•. re : SJtUlltiolJ" P.,j_,9t Sir, on 1he one ha.Gd. we are condemn- terrorist a~tivitie. tba S are Boia. on iDa terrorism, but 00. tho other hand, I today. WQuld like to bow whether whatever hap- I, pen'" in Delhi was terrorism or not? Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I mat aIIo Fivo mosques were destroyed in Delhi and mention tbat the Ceatral GovemtDtftt has I present the photographs thereof in tbe miserably failed In controlJiol tile irdlux House. In this connection, I would like of the people from across the international to kaow whether this has any connection borders. This is the responsibility of me with the problem of terrorism? I would Central Government also. You lay tbat like to draw your attention to one point people have been trained in Pakistan alld more. Mcidbya Pradesh Bandh is beinl sent here. The Cbief MiDister, Mr. organised on the 31st. I wou)d~ there- Barnala. aJso says that he ba$ got suflcient fore. request the Minister of Home Affairs proof. Why don't you take the House to take aU the necessary steps to meet into confidence aad tdl us what the ebct this situation. This is a singular incident situation is? Why don't you book ad in the history of our country that a person and chargesheet those people? This is has been murdered with a trident. There- rather a serious situation. fore, I reiterate, that you should make an the necessary arrangements to avert any MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please untoward incident during the Madhya wind up. Pradesh Bandh on the 31st of this month. SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. 1E",lislt] DEO: I will just take a couple of minutes before I conclude. I most men.. SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. tion that these are the points which are DEO (Parvathipuram): Mr. Deputy uppermost in my mind, should be taken Speaker, Sir, I would like to thank you into consideration at this present for ba ving given me this opportunity. We juncture. arc discussing specially the situation in Punjab today. I must meDtion that it is Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, '1 would lite not a problem of that State alone, but to know from the Central Government today the situation over there threatens whether they are prepared to fix a certain the very integrity and sovereignty of the arca, say, one or two miles from tbe country. border of Punjab to prevent the inftux of people from across the borders by con- Mr. Deputy.Speaker , Sir, several stant patrolling of Central forces so that Members have participated in this dabate. these people do not come and go at wiD' I have heard ment~oD from all sides of I am told a number of smugglers bave tms House. but I must mention that what built houses in these areas. Tbe anti- is lOinl OIl in Puujab today is only a con- social elements have got lands and houses tiDu.iJl1 repercussion of the indiscreet and in 'the sensitive areas. I do not tnow hasty manner in which the Accord was whether there is any collusion between IiIMd with San* Longowal on tbe the politicians and these smugglers and , presumption tbat he was the sole repre- anti-social elements. You must teU 'liS MDtative of the entire people of Punjab. whether there is any truth in this at aU. Why is it &bat people lit Badal and others If there is aDY truth. wby is it that the from oppoeitioD parties were not consulted State Government and the Ceatral Govern· at tbat time? Why were the Chief Mini- ment ba ve not been able to do an71mng Iters of Hatyana aDd Rajasthan who are as far as this is concerned? interested parties not been made signato- ries to the Accord. Today people like This is also a case of iDvolv~ment of BHaJ have been pushed to a position smugglers and other anti-social elements. where you make it seem as tbough tbey The terrorists have been coming and lOin. I are extremists. Instead of bridging the in a similar way. How can you dUferea- &aP witbin the Akali Party, you are tiate between a smugg} er and a terrorist ? widea1a& the rift between them which. I You (taDDot allow this problem to ceoUDue ddok, it reapoDlible for the atrocities lUld liko this. ~99 St. Res. 'e : bisapptovai JUl Y 29, 1986 Commissions oj of Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill [Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Deo] Some of the Members have suggested tbat item No. 11 can be taken up separa. Tben there is some killing which goes tely. For three items, we have got 4 on in Punjab and immediate repercussions hours. Now, we will have 3 hours for are felt in the Capital like the incidents item Nos. 9 and 10 and one hour for item which occurred in Delhi two days ago. No. 11. So far as Delhi is concerned, I am told tbat tbis tension was building up over tbe SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEB last one or two months. People have (Bolpur): You can allot 31 hours for been distributing Trishuls and making items 9 and 10, and t hour for item 11. provocative speeches from so called reli- There is nothing much remains in item gious premises. These are the kind 0 f No. 11. activities that are going on here. Why were you not able to apprehend these I think, the House agrees to my sug- people in Delhi so that Shiv Sena or any gestion. such organisations attempting to disturb tbe peace and harmony were rounded MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, up? there are some Amendments to the motion of consideration. Sir, it is also unfortunate that a Bandh had to be called, after this tragic incident Shri Ani! Basu. bad taken place in Delhi. I am glad that friends from all sides of this House have SHRI ANIL BASU (Arambagh): I condemned this. But I would like the beg to move: hon. Minister to assur(; us that in Delhi, which is the very capital of this country, "That the Bill be circulated for the there will-not be any complacency in purpose of eliciting opinion thereon arresting, booking and charge sheeting any by the 31st December, 1986." (16) of these people who indulge in inciting, arousing communal passion and are arous- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri iDg this kind of communal hatred between Basudeb Acbaria-not present. these two communities which bas been incessantly going on in a systematic man- Shri Hannan Mollah-not present. ner to disturb peaceful conditions. Shri Srirama Murthy Bhattam. Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I again tbank you for having given me a few SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY minutes. I do Dot want to take the time (Visakhapatnam): Mr. Deputy-Speaker. of the House. I want the hone Minister Sir, the Government bas promulgated an or- to specifically state Jas to the measures the dinance and they now seek to replace it with Government will take to bring this situa- a Bill. And they followed tbe Constitu- tion under control .. tional methods and procedures, according to the Minister, and therefore, there is DO 15 ..1' ..... violation of Constitutional provisions. Now. according to the ordinance, the STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE : Government can issue a notification so DISAPPROVAL OF THE COMM1S- that the report of any Commission of In- SIONS OF INQUIRY (AMENDMENT) quiry need not be placed before Parlia- ORDINANCE, 1986 ment. That is the power which tbey are AND taking now in their hands. COMMISSIONS Of INQUIRY (AMENDMENT) RILL-Contd. What is the main intention? Tbe main intention is that such reports of the (E1I,lUh) Commissions of Inquiry need not be placed before the House aDd with tbat MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, we purpose, they have broulht forward this 1"w tate up item Nos. 9 aDd 10 toptber" amendio, BiU and this ordinance hal boeD 401 St. iel. re : Disapproval SP.AVANA t~ 1908 (SAKA) CommisslolU 01 4(d of Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt ) Bill promulgated. What is the reason? What on the tragic day and how her life could is the justification? (1) in the interest. not be saved by th~ Government. Is this of the security of the State; or (2) in the oot a matter of public interest? 'public interest, the report need not be placed before the House. These are the N ow let me make a reference to the two reasons, they have adduced. Sir, terms of reference of the Thakkar pane). when the highest dignitory, highest person What are the terms of reference of the in office in a democratically elected state, Thakkar panel? has been done to death, has been ass~ssi nated, can the country not know what are the eire t!mstances under which this was 0) The enquiry will cover a wide done, wLat is the position? When there field and the terms of the enquiry include is no security even to the person occupy- (i) the sequence of events leading to and ing the highest position, how does the all facls relating to assassination. Government s?y that in the interest of security, they are not going to p12ce the Can we not know what are the circum- report before Parliament? Therefore, stances, what are the reasons which led the clause which says in the interest of to the ~ssassjnalion of the Prime security, we are not laying the report on Minister ? the Table of the House, is highly unten- able, unjustified and it cannot be accepted. This is a matter which is gone into by In any way, It is obnoxious. the Thakkar Commission. Do you want to withhold it from the public? Is that The second reason adduc(.d is, "in the the purpose with which you have appoin- public interest", it is not desirable to ted that Commission? p'lace, the report before the House. Let me first know what is the denfiition of POil~ t (i) certainly des~rves considera- public. interest. ] am not able to know tion and therefore, the report should be the mind of the Government. placed before the House and cannot be withheld from the House. The House A Commission, can be constituted and cannot be kept in the dark as far as that charged with the responsibility of produ- item is concerned. What are the other cing a report only on the matter of pu blic terms of reference before the Com- importance and Dot any other matter. mission? Please look into the provision of Section 3 'appointment of a Commission'. Under "Whether the crime could have been Clause 1 : averted and whether there were any lapses or dereliction of duty in this "The uppropriate Government may regard, on the part of any of tbe appoint a Commission of Enquiry individuals on security duty at the for the purpose of making an in- time of tbe commission of tbe crime quiry into any definite matter of and the individuals responsible for public importance." the security of the late Prime Mini· ster and whether the crime could Unless it is a matter of public importance, have been averted." no Commission can be co·nstituted. You constitute a Committee because it is a Is not the House en titled to know this? matter of public importance. And you Do you want to prevent the House from withhold from the public b~cause it is a knowing this? Why is the Commission matter of public importance.! What is appoin t ed? Do you want to appoint a this great idea? It is absolutely ridiculous. Commission with a view to confine its It is highly untenable and unacceptable. report to the vaults of North Bloc and Dot It does not stand to reason and common allow the report to be seen by any body sense, therefore, it is in tbe public interest in the country, much more so, by the that the public are entitled to know what M em bers of Lok Sabba? This is very baa happened to the late Prime Minister unfortunate! , . , St. Rn. re : Disapproyal C~IOlll oj inq";"y 0/ O,dinallCe Ilnd (bldt.) Bill [SI\ri Bbattam Srirama Murty] press ? Can you stop it 1 Therefore shaH we go by the reports appearing in the Let me refer to the third point. press ? Can we not know the facti? I make a reference to some of the repOTts 6'The deficiencies, if any, in the secu- which have been publisbe.d. The Interim rity system and arrangements as Report Was presented in the month of prescribed or as operated in practice November. The Interim Report contains which might have facilitated the 300 pages. Check up whether it is 1rue commission of the crime." or not. In tbe Interim Report presented on 19th November, 1985, 23 officers were Now third term under reference, the defi- indicted. Please say whetber it is true or ciencies, if any, in the security system. not. Not only that, the major findiDgs of this Commission contained in the Interim Can we not know this? Do you want Report have been ignored by the Govern- to keep us in the dark? Do you want ment. That has also come in the press. these things to recur again? Cannot the Should I go by this or do you want to public opinion come down heavily against conect me ? Do you allow me to know the people ~ho have committed this the truth? How can I know the truth dastardly act? This must be done. The unless you place the Report before tbe Report must be placed before the House. House? The Home Ministry has also You cannot prevent the House from know- decided not to take any serious action ing the details. against the officials of the Intelligence Bureau. This is what is contained in the The fourth term of reference is : press report. The Interime Report was presented to the Government. The Home Udeficiency, if any, in the procedures Ministry was of the view that any large and measures as prescribed or as s~aJe action against offidals of the I.B. you have nointed out in practice in and the Delhi Police would have a de- attending to and providing medical moraJising effect on the entire force. attention to the Prime Minister Therefore, they said, nothing should be after the commission of the crime, done. This is tbe thing. We expect whether any person or persons or something more. Some steps should be agencies were responsible for con- taken to prevent recurrence of such spiring, preparing and Planning the happenings to prevent such things. assassination. 't Can we not know? It was said there Before I go to the final Report, I Were foreign agencies and several other would say this. About 30 names are people, interested persons who ba ve con- mentioned here in the Interim Report. spired and connived, who were actually The names are here. Shall I read out? responsible and behind the scenes and The Minister knows. I think, it is not this is much talked about in this country. necessary. I am not interested in doing Can we not know Who are responsible for that also. Persons who were responsible this. what ramifications are there and who for dereliction of duty are mentioned are all the people responsible for this? therein. The Interim Report was presented to the Government in the month of These are the terms of the Commission. November. Six I months are over. The Commission is charged with ~his Government should ha.ve placed it before responsibility and its report is now sougbt the House long back,' before six months to be kept in the dark! And we are not were over, according to the Act. Now, anowed to have the privilege of knowing they are bringing forth an amendment the fadS which have come out in the today regarding the Interim Report also. course of the inquiry by tbe Commission. This will have a prospective eft"ect and Now, Whether Government seeks to not a rotrospective effect. In future when publish it or place it before the House or any Interim Report is presented to the Dot, we have ,ot in this country a free Government, then the Government tbey prest. They bavo their oWn way of know. may not place it before the House. Tllat iDt thiDp. Reports can appearinl in the is a df1fetent matter altoaefller.' H09I call 4i)s St. Res. re ~ bisapprovai sttAVANA 1, 1908 (SAKA) Commi'flionlo/ D/ Ordinance IIIItl lnf/Tliry (Amtit.) Bill tbis apply to an Intrim Report which was delay in verifying the antecedeftts of presented to the Government six months many persons in the security squad? We back? Why did OO¥ernment violate the are expected to know all these thingl. Wo provisions of the existing Act? Why did are bound to know all these things. they not place it before the House? They are bound to place it before the House. It is a violation, it is a blow to There is no escape from it. I want to democracy. It curtails the powers and make it clear. privileges of the Parliament and the right to know things for which ..•• In view of this Amendment, now, the Governmcnfs intention is very clear. The MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Pleaso Interim Report indicts only some officers. conclude. The entire picture is not yet out. There SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA may be various otbers who are responsi- MURTY; In the Dext few minutes I will ble. What about Anand Ram the complete Sir. Commission? What happened to the Report of the Anand Ram In the year 1970-71 an amendment was Commission? We do not know anything passed. In the year 1952 it was not nece- about that. Hereafter, Report of every ssary to place the Report on the Table Commission will receive the same fate. when the Commissions' Inquiry Act was The Anand Ram Commission Report will passed. It was not incumbent on tbe receive the same fate. The Thakkar Government, it Was not obligatory for Commission has received this fate. The them to place the report on tbe Table of Kirpal Singh Commission will also receive the House. Even then they used to the saine fate. The report of any other invariably place the report before the Commission which is going to be appoint- ParHament. After that in 1971 tbey found ed in future will also meet with a similar it necessary because certain lacunae were fate. The conditions are so wide that, there. Certain deficiencies w~re there. hereafter, no Commission's report need be The Law Commission pvc its report. placed before the House. If that is the They went deep into the matter aDd then case, why appoint a Commission at all? brought this amendment. At tAt time Why should there be this Commissions of may I read what the Minister had said? Inquiry Act at all? Scrap that. Do not have any Inquiry Commission at all. If "It is exactly to meet the situation you have an Inquiry Commission, then like this that a provision is made its report should be placed here. Let me that within six months of the pre- say a few words Which are important Sir. sentation of the report of the It is very clearly mentioned that if only commission, Government are bound tbe Prime Minister kept her original to bring before the legislature along schedule of meeting Mr. Peter Ustinov's with tbe manner in which they pro- rum crew at 8.30 a.m., her life could have pose to implement it." been saved. Somebody changed her scbedule. Who is responsible for changing The report must be placed along with the tbe schedule 1 Who is responsible for manner in which tbey propose to imple- intimating this fact to Peter Ustinov in ment it. So, this is the very purpose. After the hotel? Somebody, did tbis-who is having done aU this, !hey want to put the be ? It is not known. Who changed Mrs. clock back. They want us to forget every.. Indira Gandhi's appointment with Mr. thing about democratic process, democratic Peter Ust;nov? And who called Mr. procedures, constitutional rights, rights of Ustirov in his ~tel OD phone to inform the House and everything else. This is him of this change ? Why did Beant Singh highly objectionable. This is reprehensible. before pulHng the trigger asked Satwant We oppose it and we condemn it. to make sure that Dbawan was Dot hit? Why did Beant Singh feel indebted to SHRI SOMNATH RATH (Aska) : I Dbawan ? Who bungl ed in the removal rise to support the amendment to tho of Sikh lUards from Mrs. Indira Gandhi's Commissions of Inquiry Act and also the securttJ! Who was responsible for tbe Ordinance promolpted by the PraidoQt. 401 SI. Res. re : Disapproval JutY 29, i 986 tommlsslons 0/ of Ordinance and Inquiry (AmelI.) Bill [Sbri Somnath Rath] Jaw can be passed by a siD8Je House. Both HOuses must participate in the It is said tbat there are certain constitu- legislation. Therefore, the presence tional provisions about the promulgation of one House really does not satisfy of ordinances and that the spirit of these the situation at all. provisions is being violated. That is what one of the Hon. Members from the opposi. Shri H.V. Kamath: Does it mean tion said 1 want to invite your atterttion that when one House only is in to Article 102 of the Constituent Assembly Session, say the House of the people, and the repiy given by Hon. Dr. Ambedkar the President will stiJJ have this while the discussions took place about the power? ordinar.ce. The Honourable Dr. B.R. Ambed- He said "my submissiot'l to the kar: Yes, the power can be exercised House is that it is not difficult to because the framework for passing imagine cases where the powers con- Jaw in the ordinary process does not ferred by the ordinary law existing exist. " at any particular moment may be 1 defficient to deal with a s tuation So, Sir, when this Ordinance matter was which may suddenly and immedia- discussed it is said that if one House is in telyarise. What is the executive to Session and the other House is not there do ? The executive has gOt a new the Ordinance can be promulgated. What situation arisen which it must deal is the criticism is soon after both the with. Ex hypothesi it has not got the Houses were adj.)urned in the last Session power deal with that in the existing this Ordinance was promulgated. How it code of law. The emergency must be is un-constitutional. Even if one House is dealt with and it seems to me that in Session the Ordinance can be promul- the only solution is to confer upon gated. We need not go to the different deci- the President the power to promul- sions of the High Courts or Supreme gate a law which will tnable the Court which have decided that promulgat- executive to deal with that parti- ing Ordinance soon after the House are cuJar situation ... adjourned is not un-constitutional. ••• because it cannot resort to the Sir, what is the intent of this Ordi- ordinary process of law because, nance ? An inquiry under this Act is not again Ex hypothesi, the legislature is a judicial inquiry. The commission is only not in session. a fact-finding body for l1overnment. Government may agree or may not agree. That being so, any law made under It may take action or may not take action. the provisions of Article 102 would So, it is not a judicial pronouncement. It also be automatically subject to the is a fact-finding body meant only to provisions relating to fundemental instruct the mind of the Government with- rights of citizens, and any such law out producing any document of judicial therefore will not be able to over- nature. That is alJ the Commission of ride those provisions and there is no Inquiry Act is meant for. need for any provision as was suggested by my friend, Mr. Pocker, Sir, Section 7 still exists. I quote: in his amendment No. 1796. "The appropriate Government may The amendment su_ggested by my by notification in the official gazette friend, Mr. Kamatb i.e. 1793 seems declare that to me rather purposeless. Suppose one House is in Session and the *TIIe apeecla wa orisioally delivered ta Tamil. 41' St. Res. " : DlMwmm SUVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) C01lllflllmna 01 414 01 tlrdiIItntM IJlNl Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill upon wbat you are saying '1 Arc you uDder- earlier than he was supposed to 4 In standing its implications and if you are, several cases, the doctors do Dot reveal then why are yOu bent Upod embarrassing the actual nature of the disease even to us. You are trying to put the entire the family members of the patient. Efforts country ioto trouble. Therefore, you must are made to save the family members try to comprehend tbe gravity of the situa- also from the trouble and to cure the tion. patients. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS: It Why do you think the Minister take is beyond their comprehension. the oath of Secrecy? It is to ensure that they do not utter something which may DR. O.S. RAJHANS: They will not be asainst the interest of the nation and understand. Your children are more cause damage to the country. That is iBtelligent. Only three days ago you had why I am saying that this amendment in said that the newspapers of this country regard to the Inquiry Commissions is in are irresponsib1e, they pubJish everything national intereit and you must bear i. which results in the spread of riots. Today mind that from 1952 to 1970, such an you are telling us to to make the report obligation was not there. But the situa- of the Commission public. Why this tion in 1986 is not what it was in 1970. double standard? Do you want that the The conditions have deteriorated so much entire country should be engulfed in that every day of our life in filled with flames? Besides, nowhere in this amend- tension. ing Bill or the ordinance is it mentioned tbat no inquiry reports would be presented Hence, I would request the people in in the House. This applies only in the in opposition not to insist upon OPPOSiD, case of sensitive issues. And it cannot be the amending BiB because it is in the presented in the House because then it interest of the country. Besides, tho would become public and aJJ the news- Foreign Press would distort the contents papers would publish it. Therefore, it is of the report and would present a com- essential to comprehend the gravity of the pletely wrong picture of it. The other matter. We want that if our enemy·s day] saw a picture of the riots in 'LODdoD house is afire, our house should be safe. Times. One person was shown as dead (Interruptions) . . If our house catches fire, and four-five people were shown standing your house too cannot be saved. It is around him. It seems that the intention only when our nation is safe, that you and of this picture was to create mutual dis- I wi11 be safe. This is not an ordinary trust amongst the different Indian com- report, about which you are saying that if munities living abroad. it is not presented in the House then our democracy will be in danger. OUf demo- Sim!Jarly, if the contents of any iuquiry cracy will be strengthened and not report are made public which are other- weakene~ by not presenting sensitive wise not in national interest, tbe foreign matter in the Parliament. You must newspapers might magnify hundred times make an effort to comprehend this matter any minor lapses mentioned in the report. with due seriousness. Not all foreign powers are our friends which is known to you as well as to us. A doctor recommends several types of Therefore, by keeping in view the fact investigations for his patients. When the that this Bill is in national interest, you investigations are over, the patient wishes must support it. Besides, We are passing to know the results thereof. However, through a very critical phase. the doctor refuses to reveal the informa- tiOD and tclls the patient that he should There is no Deed to say any more ill continue to take medicines and not get regard to this BiJl. I would only say worried about the results. The doctor that tbose who do not talk in terms of acts in this manner because be knows that national interests. are not thinking in if be informs the patient about the details terms of the good of the nation. I would 01 the report. thon it will affect him alain emphasize, that our county is pass- PQCbolOlicaUy and he miJht die much ing through a very critical phase aud. 415 St. Res. re : Disapprroval JUL Y 29, 1986 Commissions 0/ 416 0/ Ordinance and Inquiry (.4mdt.) Bill [Dr. G .S. Rajhans] Yesterday I was amazed to bear from a suave Minister, a temporary Minister; therefore, all of us must support this I believe his term is not secured. amending Bill. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC [E",lIsh] GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINI- STRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI P, SHRI SOMNATH CHAT1ERJEE CHIDAMBARAM) : All of us are teOtpo- (Bolpur): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I rary in this world; and I am happy to be was ilstening to a valued colleague who temporary. (Illterruptions) was a former Speaker of a Legislative Assembly with some dismay when he sup- SHRI SOMNATH'CHATTERJEE: I ported this Bin But I know he had been do not mean anything. I have respect whipped to do it. But on our part we for my c.QIJeague. So far as I know, he shall be failing as members of this august has been temporarily put in charge of this House in our duty if we do not register Department. If my expression was not our strongest protest and express our very categorical. I am sorry. I did not feeling of abhorrence at this exer.utive mean to wish any disrespect to my friend. aberration which has denigrated the Par- I admire his suavity, alth 1ugh he is in a liament and which mocks at its privileges bad company. It is an example of how a and which is now scught to be sanctified goed person. a good Llwyer at that makes under a pretended notion of public inte- a mess of the whole thing because he has rest. This government, I find, has to support lawless laws I know that. mastered, like its predecessor, the art of He said, it is almost like a claim of privi- not practising what is preaches. We have leges in a court of Jaw, whetever is being been told ad nauseam of a so called open done, namely we claiml government says, society being heralded by much trumpted J shaH not produce something before a Mr. Clean. But what we find today that court of IJW ; it is similar. Here. w~ say tbe society we have is enguJfed in durk- to the people of this country, I would not ness ; people are kept ignorant of the real place it before you and I come and tell state of affdrs acd are Jed through blind the Parliament tbat I would not pJace it alley. The Bill and the Ordinance which before the Par1iament. What is the diffe- has preceded it, to my mind are typical renee? I am sure, rnctny hon. members example of the nervous reaction cf the appreciate what is me lot hy a c1aim of government which find itself more and privileges. Government wishes to with- more aJienated from the people, which hold certain documents from the court of wants to keep people uninformed obviously law. to cover up its monument[ll inefficiency, if Dot criminal negligence and all its ad- Now, I am sure that my hon. friend ministrative lapses in protecting the knows that when a claim of privilege is precious life of the Prime Minister of lhis made before a court of law it is the duty country, which nectssarily vitally concerns of a court, and the court has a rig~lt to every person in this country and the decide whether the claim is to be sustained nation as a whole. The government or not. And before that decision is taken suppresses facts from the people because by the court, the court has a right to see it wishes to bide them from th e people the document. and it wishes to hide facts from people .hen they arc not sure of the people's Oh, I see, you have forgotten the law. reaction if they are disclosed and they are This is why I felt so, that is why I brought Dot sure of the people's reaction to the this. This is a Supreme Court judgment- disclosure of the facts because they find not published by me-where the Supreme themselves more and mere alienated from Court has said : the people having lost touch with the people ; that has caused to our mind this Ulf the Court would yet like to satisfy atrociou.le,;slauve proposal. itself it may see the document. 417 St. ReI. re : Disapproval SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Commissiolls 0/ 41S of Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill Courts should have the fullest DR. G.S, RAJHANS: Dr. ICatju's possible access to all ralevant mate- contest it is not true today. rials. This will be the inspection of the document by the Court. SHRI SOMNATH C H A TTBRJEE : Objection as to production as well You see, you are not even folloWing the as admissibility contemplated in contest of Indira Gandhi. Katju is far Section J62 of the Evidence Act is off. I know it. decided by the Court in the enquiry. If the Court finds on inspection that At that time, there was DO prOVISion any part of the document is inno- for ]aying the report before Parliament, cuous in the sense that it does not or the legislatures. relate to affairs of State it can order disclosure of the innocuous part .• of the document." Now, in 1971 a Bill was consciously brought, preceded by the Law Commission report, which suggested that the report Therefore, the Court is given an opport- should be placed before the House. unity to decide whether it will allow dis- Otherwise what is the good of having an closure to the parties or not. Here you inquiry which nobody knows and no action are not giving an opportunity even to is taken on that. Members of Parliament and they do not know the contents. Therefore, how .can Sir. when the 1971 Bill came, tbe we decide whether this is a claim which notes on Clauses of the Select Committee has to be sustained or not? Therefore, stated, when they try to compare it with a claim of privilege before a court of law. It is totany unjustified and beseless. "During the course of evidence given before the Joiot Committee it was brought to their notice that many 16.00 brs. a time reports of Commissions on important issues of national interest Sir, some hone Members have spoken could not see the light of the day as if our opposition to the Bill is some- even though considerable money thing like treasoo. In 1952 when this from public funds had been spent original Act was brought into the statute thereon." book, Dr. Katju-You have heard the name of Dr. Katju. I hope~ he was the Home Minister of India in the year 1952- Now that was the raison d·etre. said; I am reading from the Lok Sabha debates: Now, Sir, Mr. Mirdha-he is still in your Government in the twenty first cen- tury government, he is a Minister-I was "Government is not going to appoint then piloting the Dilt in 1971. Dr. Katju Committees and Commissions every was an old fashioned chap. What exactly day as a matter of amusement. did, Mr. Mirdha say during his speech? Committees and Commissions are appointed rarely, for matters of great public importance, whenever He said. there is a great demand or when there is some sort of scandal in "It is exactly to meet a situation respect of an industry, or as one where Governments appoint com- hone friend referred to here, for missions and take no action on the promotion of some legislation them, that this provision has been or to enquire into some deep-seated made that within six months of the evil and so on where information is presentation of tbe report, govern- required." ments are bound to bring it before the legislature along with the Now, tbat was the reason, We bave •• manner in which they propose to (Interruptions) implement it. It 419 St. Res. re : Disapproval JUL Y 29, 1986 Commissions 0/ 420 0/ Ordinance and Inquiry (~mdt.) Bill (Shri Somnath ChC\tterjee] India solemnly thought, believed that it was necessary to make an inquiry into a Mr. Ram Niwas Mirdha said it in definite matter of public importance, 1971-a conscious amendment to the namely, the assassination of Shrimati Commissions of Inquiry Act to make it Indira Gandhi. At that time, the Govern- a sort of accountable to the pu bJic. The ment knew that they would have to lay it whole inquiry procedure was not a before Parliament. Knowing that they private matter between the Govern- framed the terms of reference which dealt ment and the Inquiry Commission. That with the causes, the sequence of events was how deliberately the law was amen- leading to the assassination of Mrs. ded. Today we are here and there are Gandhi, then so many other things as to many things about the disclosure of facts .. how the intelligence process can be im- (Interruptions) proved, whether there was a remissness on the part of any officer, knowing the posi- I know you are feeling uncomfortable. tion in law that they were required to Because these are all news to you. You submit the report, they appointed the do not know what Mr. Mirdha bad said. Commission of Inquiry. A criminal trial Was going on. They never wound up the The position is this what has happened inquIry. They allowed the Commission that you are changing the law again to of Inquiry to continue. They obtained pre-1971 position? What is being sought an interim report on 19th November, 1985. to be justified, you please look at the They s)ept over it. Three days befOie Statement of Objects and Reasons or the the deadline of StX months was to expire, notification that has been issued. It they brought in thIS ordmance which today says: is supported by many of our friends here, no doubt, under party Whip. What does "The Commission of Inquiry Act, this ordinance seek to do? We know 1952, did not have any en~bling that public interest is not very easy to provision to meet tbe situations define. It is very easy to take cover under where the fulfilment of statutory public interest. Even if Parliament obligation to lay the report of the refuses to sanction thIS, mischief has been Commission before the House of done because the ordinance has already the People or the Legislative changed the l..tw Non-confirmation of Assembly of the State involves an ordinance does not change the law practical difficulties ••• h retroCiipectively. Therefore, their obliga- tion to submit the report has already been What are the piactical difficulties we hav(! given a go by by means of an ordinance not been told. which was promulgated only to avoid facing the House by meuns of a legislative enact- " ... Or where a Commission of In- ment. This is the way this House is quiry is appointed to enquire into being treated. My hon. friends here are sensitive matters of public impor- very happy. They go on thumping their tance and the inquiry report may tables; they are cheering the Ministers. contain matters of sensitive nature Have you realised as to wbat is your on account of which it may not be position, how they are treating you, the desirable in public interest to lay representatives of the House, the repre- such report before the House of the sent~tlves of the pcopl~? A Commission People •.• " is appointed to ascertain the facts. Mr. Somnath Rath has correctly said that A very pertinent point was made. A it is a f'Iet finding body. Its report is not Commissicn of Inquiry can be appointed binding on the Government. Government only when a definite matter of public im- need not accept its findings. But the portance is involved. Therefore. at the Government should disclose the report. time when Thakkar Commission was You may say tbat you are not accepting appointed - we are assuming that this is the finding$. The Government may reject tbe reason for issuing this ordinance-on it altogether. They could have submitted 20th November, 1984 the Government of the report with a statement sayin8 that 421 St. Res. re : Disap,roval SRAVAN.c\ 7, 1908 (SAKA) Commissions 0/ 412 of Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt ) Bill this is the reason why they are Dot accept- it or changes it, then the notification shall ing the report. This is why I say that thereafter have effect only in such modi- thi s is a nervous reaction of a Government fied form or be of no effect, as the case which is unable to face the people, wbich may be". But by that time the decision wants to keep the facts suppressed from not to submit it has been taken earlier the people. There are skeletons in the which will have no effect on this. There- cupboard. That i~ why, they want to after it will cease to have effect. Kindly suppress this. This is a direct attack on see the choice of language which is very the democratic framework of our Constitu- significant. Tha t is wby we feel .• _ •• tion. They talk of parliamentary demo- (Interruptions.) cracy. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Whlt wind up now. is your opinion, Sir? SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am not Sir, the country is being wound up. We having any opinion. It is for the House have to wind up tbis also. What was to say. Everybody is having his OWn said by the Prime Minister? Well, I hope OpIniOn. I cannot have my opinion; I he agrees-be is still young-"that no cannot express my opinion. ugly facts will be suppressed and guilty persons will not be protected". But the SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: country does not know what are the ugly We know everything. facts, if any. The country will not know who are the guilty persons, if any. It That is why, this is a conscious and will be only in the archives of the Govern- deliberate act of keeping the country in ment. This is the way people of this dark. I would like to know from the country are being treated. This Govern- hon. Minister a simple thing Do(s this ment has, in a sense, clearly expnssed its Government feel that the assassination total lack of confid.:nce in the people and of the former Pr;me Minister Shrim3ti in the legislators who have been elected Indira Gandhi is a matter of natioral by the people to represent them and they interest or not? Should the peopJe know are not trusted today. We oppose tbis the circumstances leading to of her assassi- Bill every word, comma, semicolon of this nation? Whether there was ineptness on Bill. the part of the administration? Who Were responsible? Is it correct that !'ome [ Translation] officers have been suspended on the ground of their Sl' pposed negligence as SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK intelligence officers or as security officers (Sonepat): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I and Whether some of them who have been support the Commission of Inquiry indicted in the Thakkar Commission's (Amendment) Bill, 1986. Just before me, Report are still working without any an hon. member, Sbri Chatterji strongly suspension because they are dose to the criticised this amendment Bill. But in my power that be. Is this the reason tbat view he has not tried to go deep into the this Report is being suppressed? Rangnath Bill. If you look into the basic intention Mishra Commission's Report may be sup- behind the Bill, his criticism does not pressed. It it going to be published in a hold good. But it seems that jf our Con- few days' time. The Report is to be gress Party or the ruling party wants that submitted. Then the whole country is a certain piece of information should not kept in dark because you S,!y it is not in be made public, the opposition parties public interest. Supposing it is not in make it a point to make an issue of it to public interest, the final authority is the derive undue advantage out of it. But I Central Government. They have become want to tell it in clear terms that if you tbe final authority? If it is not submitted, look into the past history of this Act, you then what wjJI happen? Kindly see this wi)] find, as Shri Chatterji has said, that Ordinance and the Bin. It says, "If the from 1952 to 1971 there was no provision House of the People does Dot approve of in this Act under which it was obligatory St. kes. re : Disapproval JULY 29, '1986 Commission, 0/ 424 of Ottllnance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill (Shri Dharampal Singh Malik] Commission of Inquiry Act, 1952; sub- to Jay the report of the Inquiry Commis- section (4) was added in 197 J. Sub- sion on the Table of the House. Here, I section S is very clear. It does not require want to remind them that if they look any lengthy discussion which the hone into the proceedings of the House. they Members of our opposition parties intend will find that when in 1971 the first amend- to carryon. Its provision are very clear. m8Jlt in the Act was introduced to make the It i, a sort of proviso: 16.15 brs. (English] [SHRI SOMNATH RATH in the Chair] "The provisions of sub-section (4) shall presentation of the report of the Inquiry not apply if the appropriate Government Commission before the House obligatory, is satisfied that in the interests of the at that time the opposition parties had sovereignty and integrity of India, the criticised the amendment on the ground security of the State, friendly relations that government wanted to use this amend- with foreign States or in the public ment only to exploit adverse comments interest" • against some QPposition leaders if made in the report of any Inquiry Commi~sion. [Translation] And today they themselves stress that the report of the Inquiry Commission should It contains the word "appropriate". be laid on the Table of the House. My Now it is for the Government to see brothers from the Opposition parties are whether the report attracts any of the not aware that the Government is only aforesaid reasons, if so, it would take a concediog the demand made by them in decision that the report should not be laid 1971. How is it that they are opposing on the Table of the House. If the report it now 1 At that time they demanded is of a genera] enquiry commission, the that the report of the Inquiry Commission Government has no objection. The same should Dot be pre~ented before the House thing applies to the State Governments and now they demand its presentation in and all the states are not ruled by the the House. But you must see the reasons Congress party. It appJies to them also. of not presenting the report in the House. So it is not true to say that the amend- It is not applicable in all the cases, it ment has been brought to serve the inte- would be invoked only in extra-ordinary rest of the ruling party. With this I want circumstances. If a report or a part to state one more thing about the notifi- thereof is so sensitive that it affects the cation in this regard- people of the country or our friend1y ri!Jations with some other country, only [English] then the report is not to be presented in the House. I think that my friends from -The report of such and such a the Opposition parties should have no ob- Commission sball Dot be laid down before jection to this provision. I have not been the House. able to understand why the opposition members are objecting to it. [Translation] Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, an bon. Member PI cceding Sbri Chatterji went to That notification will have to be laid the extent of saying that this type of on the TabJe of the House and if the amendment should not be introduced in House i.e the hon. Members are of the this poor country. I have not been able opinion that the notification which recom- to understand what is tbe reJation of this mends that the report be not laid on the amendment with the poor of tbis country 1 Table of the House is not correct, If we carefuJJy look into the reasons pro- the House can reject the notification also. vided in it, it becomes clear that the in- In these circumstances, I do not think tention of tbe Governlr.ent is not to cause there can be any objection. Many inci- harm but to extend benefit. The Bill dents have happened in this country, provides for additiop of 8ub.. section (5) Whenever an incident or accident occurs aDd (6) to the Principal Act i.e.. The in this country. the opposition parti. 425 St. Aes. re : Disapprovai SilAVANA ,1, 1908 ·(SAK.A) Commissions 0/ 0/ Ordinance and Inquiry (Admt.) Bill demand for the appointment of a Com- the Government is not wrong. It is quite mission. clear. Had there been any malafide intention, the omission of .ection 4 would I would like to remind the Members have been suggested; bu t section 4 has of the Opposition of the history of any not been omitted. It contains the pro- small village. Although this Commission visioR that all reports would be laid on of Enquiry Act does not apply there, yet the Table of the House and only in many conflicts and quarrels take place in exceptional circumstance it couJd be the villages and when the mediator decides invoked when the issue is sensitive and the issue under the principles, to which tends to vitiate or distort the environment. both the parties agree, the party which Only the Government and ruling party has does not agree to the verdict is punished. to see to the proper application of this But I have to say it regretfully that when Act and the opposition parties are there some incident happens, the opposition only to exploit the situation and derive parties make a demand for the appoint- undue advantage out of it. If riots take ment of a Commission. But when the place somewhere, they wou Id like to know Commission submits its report, instead of why did they take place and if firing is abiding by the verdict of the report, they resorted to in order to quell it, the opposi- condemn it. tion parties object to it and would like to know why harsh measures were taken Recently, a few days back a commis- when the situation could have been handled sion was appointed to inquire into the with tact. Why Was leniency shown in activities of the Chief Minister of a State. this case '/ Can the disputes be resolved That commission was appointed on the through appeals '/ It is for us to see how request of the Opposition parties. The disputes can be resolved in such circum- commission in its report mentioned that stances. all the allegations were baseless. But even to date that matter has not been Shri Chdtterjee referred to the Supreme settled and is raked in newspapers every- Court judgement. It is true that any do- day. cument can be cal1ed, but at the same time it is also ensured that it does not My point is that an amendment should contravene the Evidence Act. If the do- also be made in the commission of Enquiry cument is such that it can help in dispens- Act to the effect that the report of Com- ing justice, the court has every right to mission will be binding on the opposition ask for it. This Amendment does not as wen as the fuling party. No one contravene the Evidence Act in any way. should question that report otherwise it amounts to contempt of the mediatOr or Sometimes situations arise when the the judge. It affects our social set up. report of the Enquiry Commission is not The villagers mock at us that they are in the public interest. It is essential to more prudent because after appointing a deal with such situations. An bon. Mem- common man as mediator they abide by ber said that this Amendment has been his decision. When a person is appointed brought so th&.t (he report of Tllatkar as commission Or judge then it becomes Commission is not made public. I WQUld his duty never to give a wrong report or like. to remind the hon. Member mat .. make a wrong observation. The Govern- demand for appointing this Coram.,. ment proposes to amend the Act not with never came from the opposition. ,.. any bad intention. In case there are Congress Party had demanded the appoint- adverse references in some report about ment of this Commission so that the faGts religion, cast or region which are likely to could be revealed. This Amendment has affect the intergrity or peace of the not been brought forward with tbe country. only in tha t case, the provisions Thakkar Commission's report in .iew; it would be invoked. bas been brought to deal with other situa- tions as we]]. Anything can bappen any- With this I want to say that if sub- time which might be detrimental to the sectioD (6) of section 2 is studied cafefuUy, interest of our country. If the opposition it ~ecomcs apparent that the intention of wants the rule of the law it should ,f"IlI 421 St. Res. re : bisapproval roL y it, 1986 ~ommlsslons 0/ 0/ Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill (Shri Dharampal Singh Malik] could have discussed it with the Opposi- tion. We have met the Home Minister; we support this Amendment. Laws are made have met the Prime Minister a number of keeping in view the interests of the coun- times on important issues, including also try. It becomes aU the more necessary to issues concerning Punjab. We just now amend a law if it can pose danger to the had a meeting with the Home Minister country's unity and integrity. This amend- and also tbe Prime Minister, and our ment has been brought to deal with such cooperation was sought in a particular situations. I fully support this Amend- matter. I think the Prime Minister and ment for this reason and oppose the the Home Minister, at no point of time, Motion of Disapproval that has been can complain that on such sensitive moved by the opposition in this regard. important matters concerning the country the Opposition has not "given cooperation With these werds I conclude. to the Government. If the Government thought, "Yes, this report ought not to be {English) made public", at least the Opposition could have been taken into confidence and SHRI DINESH GOSW AMI its cooperation could have been sought. (Guwahati): Mr. ChaIrman, Sir. I take Suppo~ing the Government was not keen my stand here to support the Resolution to take the opposition into confidence, of disapproval of the ordinance and to then the Government ought not to have oppose this Bill which I feel is against shown the contempt that it has shown to tbe spirit of democracy and open govern- Parliament. The Bill ought to have been ment in this country. brought before the 7th of M ly, because after aJl, promulgation of ordtnance is an My first objection is regarding the extraordinary measure Promulgation of promulgation of the Ordinance because I ordinance means denial of the legislative feel that there was no ground Whatsoever, power to Parliament because, by promu- even if the Government wanted to bring 19ation of ordinance, the Executive takes a legislation of this kind, to bring an into it~elf tbe power of legislation ordinance. The Government should have which normally it does not passes. If the come in the normal and natural course Government had the bona fide intention, to the House by bringing a Bill and enact then, before the Idst Parliament Was tbe piece of legislation by ordinance. adjourned on the 7th of May, the Government ought to have introduced a Let us take some dates, Sir. The Bill in this House As the Government Thakkar Commission gave its intedm had the majority, th~y could have got report on 19th of November 1985, and HS the Bill passed The fact that the Bill was final report on the 22nd of February 1986. not brought before the 7th of May when The Parliament, if I am correct, or the the Lok Sabha adjourned shows that the Lok Sabha adjourned on the 7th of May. intention of the Government was not bona the Ordinance was promulgated on the fide, at least, the Government does not lSth of May. But the Government had have the respect that it should have for this interim report of the Thakkar Com- Parliament. mission as early as on 19th November 1985. Even after going through the report I oppose this Bill even on merit of the Thakkar Commission, if the because I feel that it is against the prin.. Govemmer.t felt tbat this report should ciple of o;>en government, a principle not be made public because pubJication which is proclaimed so open by the hon. of the report would be against pu blic Prime Minister. Secondly tbis mania of interest, the Government had all the time secrecy is always associated with ulterior at their command to bring a Bill during motive. My third objection" is that this tbe Bud,et Session as a purely legislative Bill tries to establish that the ruling measure. They had November, December, Party is tbe repository of all wisdom Janvary, February, March, April and May. needed to evaluate a report which I con- 7 months Were at the command of tbe tradict fully. Also it has been our expe- Oov,rndlent in which the Govel1lmht rience that upublic interest" varies accord- 429 St. ReI. re : biaappro,at SRAVANA 1, 1908 (SAKA) CommissiolU 0/ 430 of Ordlnance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill ing to political expediency. There have have envisagl!d a situation where the been cases in the past when the Party Government would not even trust interests and even individual interests the legislature and with hold from have been equated with "public interest". it facts found by any Enquiry I can quote umpteen number of cases. Commission. " (Inte"uptionl.) Against Mr. Karunanidhi a commission of inquiry was appointed We are in this unfortunate position when the DMK was not an aHy of Cong- today_ We call this, the Supreme House ress, and when the alliance came out in this country. But the Supreme House between M... Karunanidhi and the Cong- and its Members are not entitled also to ress, then Immediately, cirminal prosec- know the facts of tife in this country! tuions against him were withdrawn And We cannot be trusted! A fter all, both these acts were done by the Govern- the members have appointed realised ment an the ground of public interest. while supporting this Bill that the Some one asked me about the Janata Government is indirectl y telling them period. During Janata rule, I was in the that they cannot also be trusted so far as Rajya Sabha. We fought for a commission sensitive matters are concerned? It is not of inquiry against Mr. Morarji Desai and only the Opposition. The ruling party Chaudhury Charan Singh. And the same Members also cannot b~ trusted. This is thing was said -it was not in the the position to which a]J of us are reduced! public interest. It is because the "public It is not only in this country. These interest" of a ruling Party or a minister points have been debated even in other has, in this country, unfortunately, been countries. May I point out? identified with the interest of an individual on many occasions. Profumo scandal was enquired into in secrecy because the Government Sir, it should also be remembered that thought that this scandal was of such a truth hurts but truth never harms. Suppres- nature that it would hurt the image of the sion of truth no only hurts but suppre&sion British public and of the British Govern- of truth also harms the indiviuals, harms ment. Lord Denings conducted the the community and harms the country. enquiry in such a manner that even after And this has been established times the report Was made public it did not without number. Originally ",bether hurt, rather it enhanced the reputation Commission of Inquiry Act was enacted of the British Government and thereafter in 1952, this provision was not a Royal Commission of Enquiry went into there and the last speaker referred to this matter, whether the Commission of it. But it was seen that the very purpose Enquiry should be in private or public and and the objective with which the Comis- the report was : sion of Inquiry Act was promulgated was virtually negated because the Government "Secrecy increased the quantity of -at led it was alleged-by the Central evidence but tend to debase its Government then that in the States, quality." whenever the report of Commission of Inquiry was against the State Government This is the finding of the Royal Commiss- not why it did not take any action but ion of Enquiry that when you try to oven it did not make it public. And that conduct tbe enquiry in secrecy, when you is why, in 1971, this amendment had to be do not make things public, that the quality brought and this amendment was hailed will suffer and suffer badly. Dot only by those who believe that truth and facts should come to the public What have you achieved today by but also the legal community at large. keeping it secret? "India Today·' has come out with a lengthy article at page I may only quote Das Commission. Das 119 May I read from the report of the Commission referred liko this : "India Today" ? "While enacting tbe Commission of "We do not know what happened to Enquiry Act, Parliament cou1d never tbo Thakkar Commission report." 411 $1. Res. re : bJ,lIpl'ro~(lj jULV 21, i986 Commj"iolU oj . 4j~' 0/ Ordinance and Inquiry (~mdt.) Bill MR. CHAIRMAN: It is not to be SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Why quoted. quote anybody? You say, according to your knowledge ••• SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Under SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: I must what rule? I am entitled to quote. There thank you that you have ensured that all is no rule about it. I am entitled to those Members who never go to the quote it. Library will now take the trouble of going there and reading it. MR. CHAIRMAN : That will not go on record. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAtl : I cannot understand this kind of insinuation. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basichat) : He is Dot quoting from any private SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: I am paper. Anybody can go to the Library of not quoting. What I am pointing out is Parliamont. tbis. You want to keep these matters away from Members of Parliament. But these things are coming to the public. MR. CHAIRMAN : Order please. My How are we to know whether this is true rulIng is, it is said to be a part of a or the other thing is true? The moment Commission report which is not placed in you make things confidential, rumours the House. (Interruptions). spread and those rumours have a much more harmful effect to the unity, integrity MR. CHAIRMAN: Please hear me. and sensitivity of the country than making If you want to read a part of a Commis- things public. I am not quoting from the sion report, you must place it in tbe Report. I hope you will permit me to House with permission. quote this: SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: "Embarrassing disclosures like this are He it reading from a magazine, not as a one reason why .. " report. (Interruptions) SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY SHRI DINESH GOSW AMI: I am (Katwa): The Government is admitting not quoting from the Report. that this report is genuine. Why? (Inter. ruptiou). You can quote it. MR. CHAIRMA N: He is not quot- ing. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Tbe qnestion is whether this should be Bi)) SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: If that pas~ed and whether the notification shouJd is your view, you can s~y it as your view, be approved. ] have nothing against this you can put it as your view. Because it magazine or any other magazine. My is printed on a piece of paper, does it be- learned friend says if anything is printed, come an authenticated document? tbey can read it in the House. That is what it amounts to. Anything is printed SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: Sir, by anybody it can be read in this House. on a point of order. (l"terrllPtio1l8). Does the hon. Memb~r say tbat be is quoting from an authentic MR. CHAIRMAN: What is your document? He says 1'just because it is point of order? pirnted, I can read iL"? 1 can publish a mapziDe tomorrow. If anything is prin- SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV(Alwar}: ted can you read it in this House? Any .. Please refer to Rule 349. It reads: t~, .and·written, can it be read in this Bouse ? "Whilst the House it sittinl, a mem- ber - sball not read any book. new .. SBlU DINBSH GOSW AMI: I am paper or letter .• " Dot eateriaa ioto that coDuoveray. lam IM't ~DOdq from aDY book. (Intm'lIpt;olU) At. Aes. re : hlsapproval SRAVANA i, 1908 (SAKA) Commissions oj 0/ Ordilltllice and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill MR. CHAIRMAN: Please anow to. (Interruption,> This is an extraordi- him. Let him have his say. nary situation. Because something is printed on paper, can he read it as an SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: I am authentic document? happy the hone Member has referred to Rule 349 .• AN HON. MEMBER: What is your objection? MR. CHAIRMAN: Leave it now, He has resumed hir seat. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: My ob- jection is, he cannot quote it as some- SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: I am thing from an authenticated document. relying on it. Rule 349 reads : It is the view of somebody .. (Interruptions). "Whilst the House is sitting, a mem- SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: ber shall not read any book, news- He is not saying anything unparliamentary. paper or letter except in connection (Interruptions) with the business of the House'?" MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Goswami, This is in connection with the business of pkase conti[jue. the House. Therefore, I have a right to read it. But I am not going to read. In SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: The deference to your ruling, Sir, I am not point I am making is this. loing to quote anything that has been quoted so far as the Report h concerned. (Interruptions)"" ., Everything relating to the Report has been quoted here. But I am not going MR. CHAIRMAN : No cross-talking. to quote it because, after all India Today Only what Mr. Goswami says will go on is a magazine which has the largest circu- record. Nothing else will go on record. lation. You cannot prevent any Member from readjng it. But Jet me quote this. SHRt DINESH GOSWAMI: The point I am making is this. I have not "Embarrassing disclosures like this quoted what has come out in the India are one redson why the Commis- Todayabout the Report. I do not know sion's report is being treated as one whether it is correct or incorrect. But of the most sensitive documents the these things are coming. If we feel that vaults of North Block." the Indian people are such that they are guided by the report of a Commis~ioD, You know what will be the public senti- then we are living in a fool's paradise. ment? There are embarrassing disclosures The Indian people are never guided by a in the Report and that is why, the Report Commission's report. As we have always is not being mede public. In another said, we have a temendous confidence in place the author of the write up in India the Indian people. Indian people can Today writes: judge what is truth and what is untruth. But when you try to suppress the truth, "But another reason why the Govern- you give an opportunity to those who are ment is shy of releasing the report remour mongers. is the basic message it contains: that there might have been a deep I wouJd like to know from Mr. Chi· conspiracy. " dambaram whether he knows that in 1971 allegations were made by no less a person (Interruptions) than the Prime Minister Smt. Indira Gandhi that State Governments do not SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: This publish reports. Do you think that after part cannot go. How do you allow this ? this the State Governments will publish He is loing far beyond what he is entitled reports if they are against them? In ··"ot recorded. 43S St. Res. re .. Disapproval JULY i9. 1986 ttnnmJssi01l$ "j of O,dilUlnce and Inquiry (Amdl.) Bill [Shri Din esh GoswamiJ to make such reports public it was neces- sary to bring an amendment whereby it fact, commission of public inquiry became could withold such reports by issuing a virtually a toothless weapon because tbe notification after seeking prior approval inquiry reports used to gather dust for of tbe Parliament or the State Legislature. years together and nobody used to take This provision has been in this Bill but action. the Opposition leaders say that the inten- tions of the Governmen t are not good. I only end b)' quoting Justice V.R. They apprehend that if any irregularity Krishna Iyer : is committed by Government in future and they demand the appointment of a "public inquiry legislatIOn was be- Commission to enquire into it and if the coming an antiquated, impotent Commission gives an adverse report, the and dubious instrument and needed latter would withhold it from the Parlia- legislative surgery". ment under this law. The opposition feel that these restrictions have been imposed In fact, it w0uld become n:ore antiquated, with this motive. But I would like to more impote:1t and more dublous. There- assure them that tbis has never been the fore, on this ground I support the disap- intentIOn of Government. The Government proval resolution and oppose whole- IS only interested m m:llnlaining the unity heartedly and fully the Bill that }'las been and the integrity of this country at all brought before the House. costs and that is why this proviSIOn has been made. ]t is not at all interested in [ Translation] suppresing any information from the Parliament or the State legislature. This provision is not intended to do so. Mr. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS Chatterjee, you should at least understand (Bhilwara): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to it, being yourself a Supreme Court lawyer. support the Commission of Enquiry This provision has been made to check (Amendment) Bin 1986. those who indulge in sabotage. I, there- fore, urge you to pay serious attention to Many things have been stated in this it. Your Government (CPM) is fuling in regard but I want to say only the thing West Bengal What is happening there in this connection. la 1952, there was no these days? What type of administration provision in this Act that the report of is being run there? Suppose a Commission Enquiry Commission would be tabled in of Enquiry is instituted against the the Parliament or any LegIslature But in Government there and its report is laid 1971, an amendment was passed that the on the Table of the legIslature and every- report of Enuqiry Commission should body comes to know what the communist be laid in the Parliament or the Government is doing there, would be Legislature, as the case may be it extremely difficult for you to stay within six months of the submission of iD office. You should bear this mind and report by tbe Enquiry Commission and in support this Bill. This is applicable not tbe Parlia ment or the Legislature along only to your State but to aU other States with the action taken thereon Now an also. (Interruptions) Amendment bas been brought to deal with the situations which may be detrimental to the country's interest - as an hon. I am nor yielding Mr. Chairman, Sir, Member also pointed out that the repl)rt just now Shri Goswami was speaking. I might contain references to a c~ste, a would like to remind him what happened religion or even a State whicb may incite in Cachar. Riots were sparked off there tbe feelings of the peopJe thereby vitiating because of certain Jand Jaws and suppose the atmosphere and even leading to revolt. an Enquiry Commission is set up to look There can be situations where if a report into it and the report is submitted to the of an Enquiry Commission is made public, Assembly. It would only add fuel to tbe it may lead to turmoil in the country. fire. Somna tbji, you may kindly under- Therefore, the Government thought that stand these issues and ponder over them. at it would not be in the nation's interest There is a bia difference 'betwoeo your , ,; 43\; 431 St. Res. re : bisapprovai SRAVANA 1, 1908 (SAKA) Commisaions o} 0 0/ Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill profession, and practice. You are well is such a provision in the Constitution versed at twisting the laws. I dare say that and that is why the Government thought you do. not think about the problems of it proper that this amendment was in the t~e country in the right perspective. interest of our country. Those sensitive matters which may be detrimental to the (Interruptions) unity of the c-Juntry or may cause turmoil or may not be in the interest of the coun- try at all, should not be made public. This Mamataji aptly remarked that your Amendment has been brought particularly sympath ies are with China. That is true. to secure the interest of t he country. You do not have any sympathy with this Secondly, it is being said that the Govern- country. That is why you are keen to ment wants to impose an authoritarian encourage those laws which create turmoil set up but our Government has held rather than the ones which try to ensure elections even when the situation was not peace in the country. favourable. Shrimati Indira Gandhi held elec~ions in 1977 at a time When we were You say that the Gevernment is afraid against holding elections. But Shrjmati to bring this report to Purliament? I Indira Gandhi, knowing that the atmos- would like to ask you after all why should phere was not favour.1ble to her, held it be afraid? The strength of Congrtss elections Then how do we want to bring Pdrty at present in this House is 4) 7 out authoritarian or dictatorial system? on of the total strength of 542 Members. The the contrary our Government believes in Government can get anything passed in democratic values which forms the basis of the Parliament. We have more than 2/3 all its actions. majority and we can even pass constitu- tional amendments. Whatever you say is Therefore, I conclude by supporting just for the sake of opposition. The this Bill. Government did whatever it thought was in the int(rest of our country. Besides [English) this it has been stated that the Govern- ment does not want to lay the reports on SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji) : the Table of the House because it wants Mr. Chairman, Sir the Commissions of to hide certain facts, particula rly in the Inquiry Act. 1952 is on the Statute Book case of Thakk~r Commission report. 1 for about three decades. In other demo- would like to ask that even if Thakkar cratic countries of the world too, similar Commission report is laid in the House legislations are there. For instance, in what difference will it make? Will the England, there is the Commissions of opposition be able to get it passed? They Evidence Act, 1921. But in both these do not have that much of strength. countries, the statute differs in some aspects. For instance in India, the Govern- But there are many sensitive matters ment has got the power to appoint Com- which are against the interest of the missions. The State Governments also country and all of us should give a serious have the power, and the powers are thought to them. Mr. Chairman, Sir. they vested in legislatures and Parliament to oppose only for the sake of opposition. pass the legislation to that effect. In They do not have any constructive pro- India if a resolution is passed to appoint gramme or suggestions. They never a commission, it is binding upon tbe express the right opinion. Government, whereas in countries like England, if a resolution is passed to that effect by the Parliament, it is not binding I would like to submit tbat you are on the Government, but it is an normaly responsible persons and over 10.12 lakh accepted by parliamentary practice. This people have elected you. You should, sort of djstinction is there between tbe therefore, speak in the interest of the Commissions of Inquiry Act here and country. similar legislation in England. The opposition says that Government Now the Opposition Members have il JOin. apiD'St the Constitution. There started opposing the Bill f rom the verr 439 St. Res. re : DIIllPP'ovai JULY 29, 1m Comml"lons 0/ of Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill (Shri Shan taram Naik] Jawor the equal protection of the laws within the territory of India." But still we beginning, from the introductory stage have given an exemption. Article 16 says: itse1f. For introduction, what is laid down Thore shall be equality of opportunity for in the rules of business of the House is all citizens in matters relating to employ- this. If this House has no legal compe.. ment or appointment to any office under tence to introduce this Bill, only in that the State." But still we have madean case, it c~n be opposed. For instance if exemption even in tbis regard. Nothing in the subjlct is not mentioned t in any of this Article shall prevent the Parilament the lists of the Constitution it could be from making any law prescribing in opposed. Despite this fact, the Oppostion regard to a class or classes of parties are opposip.g this Bill. If due notice employment or appointment to an was not given of the BiH, then it could be office. What I am submitting is this. In all opposed or for any other reasons that these major articles in our Constitution ' are mentioned, the BiJI can be opposed. .In each of these articles, Which are very But despite the fact that there is nothing of important, we have made exemptions. For that sort. the Opposition people are ~n~tance When communal riots take place, opposing this Bill right from the introduc- 1t IS an accepted norm that a community tion itself, just for opposition's sake They are opposing it without clarifying as to 17.00 brs. which part of the Constitution is being infringed upon. They are not able to quote cannot be mentioned. This is also an a single article in their dtfence to oppose exemption which is accepted, because the BiH, except Article 123 which relates there are certain things which have to be to ordinances. And we "re converting the made in public interest. For example, ordinance into a Jaw, into a statute. during the Janata regime, the fundamental right to property deleted. For a consi- Now, the question is this. What are Was derable number of years it was considered the cases in which we seek exemption '1 to be a fundamental right. But in public In such cases where the sovereignty and interest, ultimately it was decided that integrity of India are involved. Would such a right should be deleted; and anyone question that under such circums- nobody objected to it We also did not tances, a given report should be placed object to it. So, it deleted from the before the House? Then comes the aspect was Constitution by the Janata Party's Govern- of security of the state. Who will oppose ment. We say, rightly so. Has the Cong- this aspect '1 Can we ignore the aspect of ress Party deleted any of the fundamental public interest '1 We do so many things in rights mentioned in the Constitution? No. public interest. 10 the Joint Committee We have made only exemptions. Reports, this particular cia use was added ; uJoint Commissions with due respect also did not go into the detailed aspect as to I wHl make some other submissions why the notification has to be placed and also. In fact, from our experience now J would say tbat some people outside wbat are the other consequences, whether . ' any exemption, any quaJified exemption to Including the Press may come out with be made .. etc, etc :' Nothing was said on some material purporting to be a Com- tbat also. This it; the only one para which mission's Report, Which is notified. lives the reasons for introduction of tbat I consider that that such an action by clause which requires that a notification these persons should also be punisbed. should be placed, a report should be They may not get a copy of the Report. placed within six months of giving the But they may publish something purport- report. But exhaustive study with respect ing to be that Report. But I tbink that to this was never made In the course of such things should be punished There- last ten years, we have not tbought that fore, I have moved an amendment to that such sort of an exemption is required. For effect. instance. where does exemption not exist ? In our Constitution there are important I was saying that even in respect of proYisiou. Ar.ticle 14 says: The State shall tbe procedure of tbe courtl, We say that JWt deJlJ to any penon equaHty before the proceediDil and triaIa mould be held 10 441 St. RC6. re : 1>;SGpproval SRAVANA i, 1908 (SAKA) Commissions 0/ 442 0/ Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill public; but there are instances when some things. That becomes a matter of contro- personal, delicate matters are involved, versy. In such cases, it was always felt that when all the parties concerned agree to it is much better that there should be an h~ld the sittings in camera. There also, it enquiry conducted by some people who it required, in the public interest, that command the confidence of the country, public trial should not be held. That does and can be relied on to be objective and Dot also violate any Statute. Those impartial and through a machinery of such Statutes are also passed by Par liameBt : "an enquiry, authntic and reliable facts the Indian Penal Code and the Criminal and information will be made available to Procedure Code have been passed by the Parliament. This is the whole object Parliament. But there has never been any be hind the Commissions of Enquiry Act. objection to such things at any moment of time. Therefore. the opposition to this Bill I can quite understand though I am is just opposition-for the sake of opposi- \ ery much pained about it. The govern- tion. That too, even at the introductory ment may have some reasons for not stage it has been opposed. Subsequently wanting publication of a particular report also, at the consideration stage has been it which relates to the circumstances surro- opposed. This shows that the Opposition unding assassination of the Prime Minis- has not applied its mind to any relevant ter, Shrimati Indira Gandhi. They could facts with regard to tbis Bill. So, I consi- have taken us into confidence. There are so der that their opposition is against public many things which are discussed. around interest. the table; they are not decided always here in thi~ House; they could have told us what is the diffi.::ulty in the way; there SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) : is some honest difficulty. For example, I I have been listening very intent1y to the can think of the fact that they could have arguments put forward by members of the come and told that in some way or the ruling party in defence of this Bin, and the other it might affect or prejudice the trial Ordinance which preceded it; but what I which was going on in the court; they cannot understand is; why al1 this wisdom could say that; they could convince us and has dawned on people only subsequent to they could persuade us and we might agree the tragic assassination of the Prime with them by consensus that aU right this Minister of this country. Nobody thought particular repert may not be disc10sed at of these things earlier. It is only when the least at the present moment, exception Thakkar Commission's report has appeared should be made; later on, if circumstances on the scene that noW the necessity is permit, it may be brought to light. But felt, not only for non-disclosure of tte have they taken that course (If action 1 Thakkar Commission's report, but to bring Not at a11; apart from the fact that I in a general Bill, an ordinance fl)))owed by think the entire country, the people of a Bi11, giving Government a general, this country, who are waiting very anxi- entirely subjective power to withhold any ously and eager1y to know the result of report of any Commission of Inquiry if it this enquiry because the country has so thinks expedient. suffered a big shock; the whole security of the administration, of the top.. most level of the administration has been brought When this Commissions of Inquiry Bill into doubt, and whatever light could be Was brought in many years ago, what was thrown on it by this Commission which the idea behind it 1 Why was it brought has submitted two reports, in between, in after-all; and why has so much impor- one interim rep(lrt and one final report, tance and value been put OD it 1 Because was something which the people of this it was felt-and I hope the Minister will country wanted to know abollt. However, not disagree-that Parliament has got a if there was something, some valid reasons basic risht" to get authentic and reliable, coming in the way, the government should impartial information and facts. Many have taken us into confidence, the House tbinas come up which arc disputed botly into confidence, leading members of the Within Parliament or an Assembly. Some- opposition as well as leading members of times tbe Ministers are accused of various the ruling part)' in trying to come to a St. Res. re : Disapproval JULY 29, 1986 Commissions 0/ 0/ Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill fShri Indrajit Gupta] mation and reports. This is accepted. Supreme Court has accepted it. There are consensus about this particular report. But three judgments. I cannot go into the that is not the course they have taken. details because there is no time. In Indira They have brought in a sweeping Bill in Gandhi's election case, in Jaunary 1975, which the only thing which matters noW in Maneka Gandhi's case in 1978 and is the subjective opinion of the govern- in the High Court Judges case in Decem- ment; it confers on the Central Govern- ber 1981, the Supreme Court has held that ment and on the State Government also a there is a indissoluble link between the blanket power to withhold publication of right to speak and the right to know, the a report which they consider not to be freedom of speech and the freedom of expedient on certain grounds. I would say information. Please go through the judg- tbat though it may sound a bit strong that ments of our own Supreme Court and see it is virtually a slap on the face of Parlia- what they have said. ment. From 1952, we had this Act which has And, Sir, also there is a thing calJed the International Covenant of Civil and given us this access to reliable, authentic Political Rights which has been ratified reports which are made available through by IndIa many many years ago. Article the machinery of an impartial Er.quiry Commission in which later on Supreme 19(2) of the International Covenant also speaks about freedom to speak and to Court Judges and verybody was brought receive, and impart information. The in. two are hnked together. Now, I have to m lke a reference to the fact that even under the British rule, Now, what is being done? The decI- there was a Hunter Commission appointed sion on non-disclosure has been left enti- to go into the JallidDwala Bagh massacre. rely to the subjective satisfaction of the That Hunter Commission Report was Government without stating the reasons. published in full including the dis~entillg And I agree with my friends here who say note attached to it by Sir Chaman Lal that this Ordinance and this Bill which Setalvad; both the report and the dissent- wiJJ become an Act will only put a pre- ing Dote of Sir Chamn L'll Setalvad were mium on unauthorised disclosures, on published even in the days of the Bntishers. leakages and rumours You are encourag- It must have been embarrassing at least ing that, and it will boomerang on us. tbe dissenting note; the dissenting note It w III boomerang on us. There will be was certainly embarrasfiing Now I wi~h to disclosures which YOll may say are not say that Article 19 -our young fnenus authentic, not authorIsed and so on, but over there had argued just now on the the curiosity of the public has been roused. ground of ]eagaJity and constitutionality Should they be blamed for that? and so on. That nothing can be slid against this Bill which is now commonly When, for the first time in our history held in this country that freedom of speech an elected Prime Minister is gunned down as guaranteed under Article 19 (1) (a) can- and butchered, is it a normal thing? Is not be restricted or circumscribed except it an easy thing to digest by anybody in 00 tbe ground of sovereignty and integrity this country. We know, it has been going of India, the security of the State, friendly on in many neighbouring countries and relations with foreign States, public order. in the adjoining countries, but it was decency or morality, these are the something to which our country was grounds given; public interest iii not totally allen by history, by tradition, by mentioned here at all; there is no mention culture, by e\ erything and When such a of public interest as bring one of the rea- thing happens and an inquiry commission sonable restrictions on the freedom of is appointed to find out the cir~umstances, speecb which is guaranteed under Article now the Government comes forward and 19 (I); and it is establiliihed in every coun- under the sh~Jter of this blanket powers try, democratic country tbat freedom of of this Bill decided that their first action s~ecb includes freedom to get infor- is thut it is not in the public interest mation; you cannot exercise freedom of that the Thakkar Commission report is put speech unles. you have an access to infor- before Parliament. Now. first of all 445 St kel. re : Dlltlpproval SRA VANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Commissions 01 446 of Ordinance and Inquiry (Amdt.) Bill public interest does not come in tbe SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I am not picture at all. It can only be restricted a lawyer. If the two of you are agreed under those restrictions which are defined on this, I am not making a big point out onder Article 19(2). of it. It matters little to me whether you brought the Ordinance two days earlier Secondly, technically speaking, I must or two days later. I am not concerned also say that this Ordinance wac; promul- with it, but it is a matter of principle in gated at time-technically-it can only this thing. be promulgated when both the Houses of Parliament were not in session. Was that SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: It the case? It was promulgated on a day is a matter of principle. when the Rajya Sabha-the Lok Sabba had been prorogued already-was not SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Therefore, prorogued. Sir I would like to say that now many undesirable consequences may flow from SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM : My the suppression of this Thakkar Commis· hon. friend is reading the Article wrongly. sion Report, because so m.lny things are It says, except when both the House are appearil!g in the Press, they are neither in session you cannot promulgate: you contradIcted nor denied nor affirmed by are reading it the othrr way round. anybody. One report says, that a whole "When both Houses are not in session". lot of officers who Were connected with There is a world of difference between the the intelligence activities, and I believe two. "Except when both the Houses are in that the Thtikkar Commission - I have no session", that is the only restriction. means of knowing it-ha') put the overall, major responsibility cn the failure of intel- ligence-not so much on the failure of SHRI lNDRAJIT GUPTA: That security as on the failure of intelligence. means you consider Parliament to consists But the strange thing is that even if only of two Houses. Even one House is reports app earing in the Press are to be half the Parliament. The Rajya Sabha believed, a whole lot of officers connected had not been prorogued. Rajya Sabha with the intelligence services-nothing has bad only adjourned sine die. It had not been done to them, no action has been been prorogued. The Lok Sabha had taken against them, subsequently they been prorogued. Technically, the Rajya have even been promoted, they have been Sabha was in session and therefore the elevated and all that-while a number of Rajya Sabha was stHI in session. ]f they officers \\' ho are connected only with the Want to observe the norms of democratic Police part of it, security part of it, they functioning they should at least have have been still kept under suspension, come before the Rajya Sabha and taken without giving them any charges or charge its consent on this. sheet~-because no charge sheet was given or no cbarges h& ve been brought against SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: lf you them. So, while this kind of discrimination will yield for one moment, hon. Prof. is being practised, all these things will lead Mhdhu Dandavate had quoted Kaul and to unhealthy sequences and now they can- Shakdher ; I shan quote the same author: not proceed also against the suspended officers, without reference to the report and the report cannot be disclosed, there- ·'The Ordinance making powers of the fore no actior} can be taken. They wj)) President arises as soon as either House remain suspendt!d indefinitely in perpe- is prorogued." I think the other side is tuity or what, I do not know. While the supporting my contention. people connected with the inteIHgence ha ve been rewarded and allowe SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: I hope Who is promoted and who is not? Wh) ? I have made my position clear. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: I would AN HON. MEMBER: Yes. say now that we have many apprehensions about tbe blanket power which is now ( Translation] being given, which obviously-I put a charitable view- that the Government SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI (Ghosi) : Mr. might have not liked to reveal this report Deputy Speaker, Sir, the House is discus- because of its possible repercussions on sing a subject which is of much academic the trial which is going on in the High interest and I am grateful to you for Court. But an other interpretation may providing me an opportunity to speak on also be put because the report may have it. revealed many embarrassing things and there may be many disclosures in that. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have So, in future I can say there are going to heard with rapt attention the views of tbe be reports of commissions of inquiry hon. Members of this side as well as of into communal riots and all the .rest of that side. The sum total of this discussion, it. This blanket power can be used now as Prof. D:lndavate and just noW Sbri to soppress all kinds of unpleasant and Gupta has, also ~aid, is that they are not embarassing things which may be brought opposing for the sake of opp(. sition and to liabf about the involvement of some thc:y agree to the things which are genuine people in these communal riots. The and proper. They have in their support door bas been opened now for a very quoted the instances of bonus etc. I agree vicious kind of system, vicious kind of that there have been occasions where practice to be followed, Which wjlJ mean Opposition has agreed with us and 1 agree also Sir, that Parliament can be denied to their contention that no point becomes now at any time of the right to have proper only because the majority has authentic information which is the pur- accepted it. But I do not agree wben they pose of this Commission of Inquiry Act. say that it is a fraud on constitution and on Parliamentary democracy; checks and I totally oppose the Bill, and I join balances must be there. my friend Prof. Dandavate in tbe disap- proval of the Ordinance and in advance- It is true tbat at the time of promul. becatlse We have Dot so far yet come to gatioll of the Ordinance many journalists, that-I oppose the notification which ie who were in our favour, did Dot .~pport 449 St. Ra. ,~ : DlMpprova/ SRAVft.NA 7, 19«l (SAKA) Commimoas 0/ 4.$' 0/ Ordinance and lnquirv (Amdt ) Bill it. The Biil prosented in tbis august House cannot at all b~ term\!d wrong. Tllere can seeks to replace the Ordinance promulga- be no re::lSon for oPPJ;ition in such ted in May. On the day the Ordinance Was cases. promulgated, Shri P.N. Lekhi, a very good \ orator and a Supreme Court advocate had Nowadays judges are appointed to said that it is a ploy to delay the Thakkar enquire into several matters and they Ii"e Commission report. The entire Opposition many decisions. Before this a BiU was concedes that had the Government wanted passed with a thumping majority which it could have blocked the release of the was stated to be \.!ootroversial BUI by many whole report but there is no propriety in people. The BiH was discu,scd here. A stopping the whole report. judge gave the judgement that graves in Varanasi, which were hundred years old, I would submit that two things have should be shifted. been stated in this Bill. As Shri Gupta has stated, these are blanket subjective The Supreme Court delivers several powers and can be misused to a large judgements and these are shown 811 extent. His- first attack is on the Thakkar respect. Commissions of Enquiry are Commission·s report. But he has this chaired by persons of their status. AI} the much understanding that he could have facts are pl:lced before them and :rersuaded them to agree to tbe release of they decide after considering all the the Thakkar Commission report. But in aspect. tbe meantime nothing has happened which might have shown Government's malafide [English] intention. They have no reason to doubt Government's bonafides, particularly when But it is the human mind. this Act makes it clear that the Govlrn- ment can withhold ~he report only in 4 [ TransUztioR] situations i,e , when there is danger to the There are diff~rent WJYS of producing sovereignty and integrity of the country. evidence. Several things sometimes become security of the State or it is likely to affect irrelevant in the enquiry. Thev go against relations with foreign countries, or if it i ~ the security, sover~ignty and integritJ 0( not in public interest. the country. Is it necessary to put the country in danger? Whatever judges say is The question arises that when a judge not the gospel truth that their jud!ements appointed to enquire a particular m~lt It'r will remain valid for ever and no improve.. under the Commission of Enquiry A ct. ment can be made in them. makes reference to matters which may:' C irrelevant, in-admissible, and also to The world is moving fast today and problems which are unnecessary} will the we have to maintain public and foreign hone Members, who are intellectuals and relations. Mistakes can be committed by people's representatives as well, agree to anyone aud irrelevant things can be said tbe release of such a report ? No Govern- anywhere. If tbe Government feels that it ment which has wisdom and discretion, is not proper to bring a particular things which has to protect the public interest before the House or to make it public. and has to maintain friendly relations with then ir can amend any law. It is the other countries would make public a report bounden duty of the Government to do which is n('t in public interest. so. No Government worth the name can [English) remain sHent on such matters. Therefore, such Jaws "must be en3cted. When there is Government, after oil, is Government. danger to the unity and the integrity of It has to see tbe public interest. It has to the country, no Government can remain a see the interest of the people at large. silent spectator. If ther~ is provision in our Constitution for amending the Jaws, [ Traa.tlatiDn) the relevant Jaws must be amended. If there is any Ordinance or any law to Prof. Madhu Danda vate (co,s that protect tile int.ercst of tDe people, that wroDg dec. ions are taken 011 the lm8i$ or Dis. re : Situation JULY 29, 1986 in PlUI}ab -Conti. [Sbri Raj lCumar Rai] devote as much attention as we can to see tbat Punjab is kept peaceful; there is majority. So long as Congress was in power respect for law and order, and com- no wrong decisions were taken on the munal harmony, peace, is maintained in strength of majority but when Shri Dan .. Punjab. davate's Government was formed and the Janata Party came into power in which he was a powerful Minister, at that time The immediate cause for this discus- his party openly misused its majority in sion is the gruesome tragedy at a place this House by debarring duly elected called Muktsar. I Immediately rusbed. Shrimati Indira Gandhi from her member- The hone Prime Minister asked me to go ship. He should not expect that we shall and see for myself bow such a dastardly do such things in this House with our act has taken place especially when majority. We do not do any unlawful act there was incident-free fortnigh t in Punjab. OD the strength of our majority. We keep In the two Districts, Gurdaspur and tbe interest of th~ country foremost Amritsar, where the terrorists had occu- before us. Our party has all along been pied the central place, we had worked out fighting for the protection of the country. a plan in co-operation with the State Therefore. I welcome and support his Government, the central forces. We had amendment alld oppose the motion of thoroughly and very carefully drawn up a disapproval moved by tbe Opposition. plan in which every village was Jooked after. We created some kind of a strategy in which We were able to really monitor the whole operation ,ery closely. Also, 17:1,7 brs. while we were satisfied with the operation we were trying to go into some of the [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER In the Chair] hideouts of the elements who are out to destroy life in Punjab. Suddenly, from one DISCUSSION RE: SITUATION IN remote corner very near the international PUNJAB-contd. border-only a few kilometres away from the international border-this tragedy has [E",ulhJ taken place. Every act of terrorism sends wa Yes of fear and terror throughout the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The hon. country. This particular act (which was Home Minister to reply to the debate. the largest of all the acts so far done in Punjab) sent a wave of fear and reaction THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS throughout the country and indignation (8. BUTA SINGH) : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, that the fall- out W.lS felt in Punjab and Sir, first of a1l I express my grateful thanks in Delhi, as a result of which, during the to the hon. Members of this House for past 3 or 4 days, Delhi also was upset ; disculsiDl the situation in Punjab at certain parts of Delhi witnessed tragedies, length. arson, loot and other lawlessness. But, fortunately, Sir, with the cooperation of Prof. Dandavate is again the champion the people of Delhi and the Delhi of brinaml tbe most important issue, a Administration, it was po~sjble for us to national issue, for discussion in this House. control the thing in a short time. There- Punjab has occupied the focus of this fore. we were able to really contain it in aUJust House ..• (Interruptions) Delhi. There are parties who take even political mileage out of such gruesome I happened to be the humble servant tragedie~. Instead of cooperating. with of Ult. House for quite some time. What the forces and the laW and order enforcing is happeDing in Punjab is not the Jaw and machinery in such occasions, they thought order situation. is Dot a matter pertaining it better to launch some kind of a Bandb, to ode State or even to ,orne communhies. -Mini -Bharat Bandh,-Madhya Pradesh It bas deeper roots. Its ramjfications are Bandh, Himachal Bandh, UP Bandb, very very sonous, afl'ectinl tbe whole Delhi Bandh etc. Even after my repeated _tiODaI life and, therefore, naturally it is appeals,-personai appeals-to tbe the riPt thiDa tbat the House should honourable leaders of political parties, 453 bi,. re : $ltuatlon SR.AVANA 7, 1908 (SAlCA) I" Punjab-Contd. 454 they refused to call off the Bandh. Again, tuency which I had the honour to repro- Sir, with the cooperation of the people sent in this House when I was a Member of Delhi it was possible for the Aministra- from Punjab. Do you know what be said '1 tion to see that the whole thing is con- He said, ·1 hold the Prime Minister Rajiv tained. (Interruption) Now , Sir, about the Gandhi directly responsible for communal political atmosphere in Punjab, I cannot flare up in Delhi in which six persons were improve upon what the hone Prime killed'. Sir, he is conveniently forgetting Minister said on the Floor of the House tbat in his own native town-Mr. Badal about the approach of the Government of belongs to Muktsar towD, his village is of India. Shri Madhu Dandavateji raised quite near, and in his own native town some basic questions in his remarks. He that thing has happened, he forgets about wanted to know whether the Government tbat. There is not a single word about the will make a categorical statement stating innocent people kil1ed in that tragedy, but that there is no question of any separatist he tries io attack the Prime Minister for State or any move connected therewith. what is happening in Delhi. Sir, let me He asked whether this will be made non- assure this honourable Houst: that We negotiable. He said that there should not never approach this kind of a situation in be any talk of extension of Article 370 to the country from a narrow communal Punjab and that the time schedule provi- angle. But for the presence of this ded in the Punj<1b accord should be Government and their prompt action the adhered to and that the foreign powers after-effect of what happened in Muktsar assisting the terrorists should be exposed. would have been many many times more. He made also so mdny other suggestions. H was the Prime Minister Rajiv Gandbi The hon. Prime Minister has provide that Who immediately directed all concerned- categorical statement here and it bas been half a dozen Ministers Were moving in the understood aU over the country. I am sure troubled area of Delhi. Myself, Bhasatji, Shri Dandavateji must be satisfied with K.C. Pant and the Chief Executive Cono- that. Now, the things which further cillor-we were all amidst when the stones aggravate the situation must be contained. were being pelted when the guns were taken I am not going to request Shri Dandavateji out, wben the sords were used, when the to take up the issues with his erstwhile iron rods, were used, wheb the things were colleagues. But I am going to inform the set on fire. When the gurudwara. temple House that things are happening in Punjab and everything was being destroye, dwe and in the Central Government, the State were in the thick of these things. And Government, and a1l the poJiticaJ parties where was Shri Badal? Now, it is this are trying to mobilise the people in the kind of attitude of a particular section of State to see that this kind of a carnage is the Akali Party - I do oot want to really not allowed to happen in Punjab. But, score points with Badal, but I have to say Sir then unfortunately what some and I must say that it is this kind of of the most important Jeaders of every attitude of tbe Akali 1eadership tbat is section of the Akal i party who were very aggravating the situation in Punjab. So, close friends of Shri Dandavateji. one wbo what is Badal and his colleagues, Tobra happened to be Chief Minister and Minis- and others, doing? Wherever a known ter bere also, had to say .on this issue ? terrorist is killed) they go to his house, Now they are openly colluding with the tbey organise the kriya and bhog cere- extremists and terrorists. Every sentence mony. They do not stop at that only. They they utter has its ripple. It has to be put a flag there and tbey declare him 8S understood. And then the other dcly the a martyr. Sir, if such things are altowed AkaJi Member of Parliament, Shri to happen in Pur:jab which bas seen the Cbaranjit Singh Walia who belongs to that worst communal situation in tbe last 3-4 Iroup. althoulb I do not know how he years, where will this lead to? Similarly, made a speech here, be did not reflect tbe he goes on saying that. After having said views of his group, but. Sir, the speech of that, he forgets about Muktsar. But he Prakasb Singh Bada~ after Muktsar is says that if this happens in Delhi, it is somtbiDI which I would like tbis House to bound to have repercussions there. The take note of. Soon after that incident, be former Chief Minister said tbat ·sucb apote in one of the towns of a consti .. incidents are bound to have reporcusaiAQ,t I};s. re : SitlllltJon in P.n}db-Contd. {S. Buta Singb) to analyse what is the situation ia Punjab. It seems, the feeling bas gone among the here-'Here' means Punjab, as if there are Akali leaders tbat only one wbo takes tbe no repercussions in Punjab already. What most extremists posture wiiJ become popu- is happening '1 The families of a particular lar leader of the community. Tbat is tbe community are marching out and nobody basic thing in which tbe Akali Party is to stop them. I hope to persuade the State caugbt. Government to come to Delhi. see that !hey are provided with security, see that they 17.42 MS. are persuaded to go back to their homes. [MR. SPBA KER in the Chair] But here is a former Chief Minister whose quarrel with the Chief Minister is only Therefore, I have no doubt that it can because he has not been made the Chief be only a minor difference of degrees Minister. About the accord for which but to an extent, these are the leaders Madhuji is very keen and everybody is who are respnnsible for driving this kind keen, he Sll!)'S that the Punjab accl)rd is a of wedge and also responsIble for making mockery of the sentiments of the Sikhs the Akali party to take that kind of an and treachery to the Pdnth. Shri Badal, attitude which has pJaced the Sikhs all even at that time when the accord was over the country in such a position tbat it signed, was not with Santj i, but when it is becoming difficult for them, because came for the distribution of tickets -be- they have been branded, they have been cause the accord was the manifesto-and equated with the policies of the Akali Party. when it came to share the fall outs of Does that mean that Punjab means only the accord, he got the major share-he and the Sikhs and only the Akalis? The Sikhs Mr. Tohra between the two. That is why, are there all over the country and they are poor Bamala today is finding himself in a proud patriots.. They are the ones Who 'Situation where a large chunk of his party sacrified for the freedom of the country. has walked out. Anybody in the place of They are responsible for the development Mr. Bamala who was the Party leader at of the country, for building up the coun- that time, even now, the President of the try. How is it that today, a handful of Party, should have made tbe Accord has leaders of a political party have come to tbe touchstone and he should have made be equated with the destiny of all the the Accord as the qualifying standard for people living aJ.J over the country? That any candidate for that party. In that case, has to be understood. Let us not go with M;. Tohra and Mr. Badal or his associates the impression which is sought to be would not have found even a ticket for the created by some of the Hindu rerctionary party. But having taken all the benefits of forces who equate every Sikh with what- the Accord, now they turn their back and ever AkaJi Party-wbeth~r the present or say, it is a treachery with the Sikhs. the earlier or the break-away group-and they are trying to preach this. That is not Now, Mlat is the Accord? They are the fact. The fact is that some of the loing about saying that the Accord is not elements in the Akali Party have been r~le"aot to the Punjab political situation. unfortunately managed by the anti-Indian They are 110t one with the Accord. But forces. They are willingly or unwillinsly about tbe forces wbich they are support- acting as agents of the enemies of the today ... whether it is Damdama Taksal, ma country. That has to be made know to the AISSF, Dat Khalsa-and all tbose organi- people of the country. Only then, Wt! are ntiolts whicb are rCfiponsible for all these able to take an unattached, objective view things-is it DOt know to Mr. Tohra or of the situation in Punjab. Mr. Badal that these organisations Were aever one with the Akali P.lrty, Dot to Now, as I starled my remarks saying speak of the Accord' The same Prakash that we made efforts to restore peace in Sinsb BadCiJ c('uld not vi~tt the Golden some partl of Punjab, we met with 1\ limi- Temple f-or ovcr a year because he was ted success. We wanted to take tbe march mentally afraid of these orpni•• tionl and oDward; we wanted to expand the whole SGday M it becomiol the champioa of thina- Unfortunately this Muktsar iDcic1ent dine oraanilatioDl. This onl, takes. .. to he~ bappene4; it could have ~ any- ...~ ....ioUI aituatlon aDd we .bouJd try where. But I want to inform the .UlUll bl,. ,e : SJtllfJtion SRAVANA 7 1908 (SAI<:A) St. Ra. re : D1JtllllHo.,llloj 458 in Plmjab -- Contd Ordinance and Commission of Inquiry (Arndt.) Bill-Contd. House that our poJiti<:al parties must pon- fore, every time, I request or I advise der over, must sit together and take the hon. Chief Minister of Punjab. We were situation in Punjab, not in a p~rti~an or a able to adjust. It is not tbe date which is party manner. I am happy, this time again, so S,lcrosanct. It is the actual effect on the tbe House has reflected the national win life of tht! people, how it wiH affect the and Mr. Speaker, Sir, you set the tone. people, what will it really produce if that Earlier also, it was your appeal which accord is imlemented. Three times it has raised the level of discussion. This time happened. Now we are trying to see that the again, y01.J had set the tone and the Mcm- problems are resolved through mutual con- btrs ha,e followed and you have really sulation with the participation of the con- reflected \' au have put the mind of the cerned pdrties and an agreeable solution is country and the mind of the nation through found. this House. I would ilke to mention one or tWO points raised by the hone Members Sri One thing which is quite heartening is Sultan Salahuddin Owaisi and some other that in PunjLlb, especially in the big towns, Members, Shri Piyus Tir"ky, Prof. P J. the people are living hJrmoniously. In Kurien and also Prof. S.lifuddin Soz tbat spite of the t hings happ~ning every day, we must make aJl-ol,t efforts to ~ee that things happening, ul1believable incidents normalcy is restored especially in the bor- taking place, the basic unity. the mutual der areas where sUlh a situation has dis- confidence of the people is there very turbed the normal life of the people. We much and they are Punjabis and tbey take have been m~king very serious efforts- pride in this. But we should not allow the and today luckily te-o, rr.yse1f, my colleague situation to reaHy gojout of control. It is Shri B. R. Bhagatji alo!'g with the leaders high time and I am sure, as I mentioned of the Opposition, we had a detailed dis- in the beginning of my speech. that we are cussion with the hone Prime Minister and making a joint eff Jrt, national effort, with ] am sure some fruitful results will come the involvement of the leaders of the out from the discussion that we had today Opposition and, I hope, tbe Punjab Govern- and I am sure this House will b.lck up the ment and esp ~cialJy Shri Barnala who has Go~erDment efforts to fight out the forces been cooperative, who hali been helpful, of disintegration, the anti-n..1lional for.:es, will und~rstand the message, the mood of the forces of communala~1l1 who :1r~ out the Hou~e and the country and wiJl co- to destroy the fabric of ournational unity operate with the efforts of the Government 811d integration and I L.m sure the House of India, with the involvement of all the will stand by and also back up the Govern- political parties, will save the people from ment in taking up th~t c.haBenge. any further happenings that have put the Punjabis to shame. I need not mention about the imple- mentation of the accord because it is a With these words, again I express my subject matter on whicb the discussion thanks to the hone Members for participat'" earlier was also taken. The latest positton iDg in this discussion. is known to almost all the Members. We are very keen that the accord is imple- mented very sircerely and effectively. But, 17.50 hrs. unfortunately, certain problems cropped while implementing the accord. We cannot STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE reany take it technica1ly. Dates llavc been DISAPPROVAL OF THE COMMISSIONS shifted, r!ot nnila lerally, dates Were ~hifted OF INQUIRY (AMENDMENT) because circumstances t:xistcd and every ORDINANCE, 1986 time the initiative came from the Chief AND Minister of Punj~.b because we were faced CO~1MISSIONS OF INQUIRY (AMEND.. with a situation almost like a dead end MENT) BILL, 1986-Contd. and we wanted to save further complica- tions. Punjab is a1ready in the thick of [English] woods. We have Jot of problems Another problem added. the State administration MR. SPEAKER: We take up Ittms 9 mi.ht find it even difficult to stand. There- and to. :'!> ~ '"\' St. Res. re : DisapJNoval JUL Y 29 J 1986 CommissIons 0/ Inquiry of OrmlltlllCe and (Amdl.) BIII-Contd. SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV (Alwar): an amendment, they are going to add sub- Sir, I rise to support the Commissions of clause (5) and sub-clause (6) in section 3 Inquiry (Amendment) Bill which has been of the principal Act. In this regard, my moved by the hone Home Minister for submission is that this contention from the .consideration. side of the Opposition is not correct. Because this sub-section which has been 1751 hrs incorporated by way of amendments in sub-clause S and sub-clause 6 can be used [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] on]y in the exceptional cases. In only exceptional cases when it is in the interest The ho~. Members from the Opposition of the nation it can be used. Specifically have cODllended that promulgatIOn of the the word security of the nation and Ordinance was not proper on the part of integrity of the nation has been mentioned. the President. But I might submit here If the Government comes to the conclusion that article 123 of the Constitution of India that for the security of the nation or in Jays down that, when both Houses of the interest of the integrity of the nation Purliament are not in seSSion, in those it is not expedient and appropriate to put circumstances, the Pnsident of the Union up the report before the Parliament, in has the power to promulgate OrdInances. that event the Government is not under Mr. Chatterjee has contended here that any obligation to place 1he report before the Rajya Sabha \\as adjourned on 9th the Parliament. May but it was not prorogued, and when there was no prorogation, during thdt Here again, In this particular commi- period, the Paesident of the Union pro- ssion of inquiry report t already the case is mulgated the present Ordinaince and, there- pending in the judicial court, i. e" in the fore, it should not have been plomulgated. High Court. In the Commission of Inquiry In the Book by KauJ & Shakdher, it has Act it has been specificalJy mentioned that been specifically mentioned that, if both this report is not the report of the judicial Houses of Parliament are not in session, court. Sectiou 6 specifically Jays down: in ~hat event, the President of the Union has the power, under article 123 of the "Statements made by persons to the Constitution, to promulgate Ordinances. Commission: No statements made by Therefore. the Ordinance which has been a person in the course of giving evi- promulgated and which is noW being dence before the Commission shaH replaced by the present Amendment Bill subject him to or be used against him is proper and constitutional. The- President in any civil or criminal proceeding is the fountain of justice and, therefore, except a prosecution for giving false whatever he has promulgated by way of an evidence by such statement" . Ordinance on 1 Sth May, 1986, is consti- tutional al'd ther~ "is nothing ultra vires so The intention of this Act is that this far as that is concerned. report shall not be treated as judicial one; nor it shall have effect of the proper The next point which has been alleged verdict of a judicial court. Therefore, it by the Opposition is this. In the year 1970, is simply a statement by a tri bunal and it by way of an amendment, Clause 3 of the is upto the .Government to accept or not principal Act was amended and sub·clause to accept it. (4) was added and sub-clause (4) was that, after obtaining the report of a Commission, May I ask the Hoo. Members of the within a period of six months, that has to opposition that when the Vaidyalingam be laid before Parliament; in the present report was presented in the House whet- case,. the interim as well as .the Final her they urged upon the Government for Reports which were received by tbe Govern- its implementation? ment have not been presented witbin a period of six months and, therefore, sim- saRI SOMNATH CHATTBlUBE ply to cooceal tbose Reports aod tbe facts (Bolpur) : LayiDI the report on tbe table contained in those Reports, Government or tbe House and acceptance are two bas come with tbe present BiD; by way of dHferent tbin... 461 St. Res. ,e : bllOPJWo,al SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Commissions o/Inquiry 462 of Ordinance and (Amm.) Bill- Contd. SHRI RAM SINGH Y ADA V: When SHRI RAM SINGH Y ADA V: Not / Vaidyalingam report was presented in the only tbi' but I may also remind our old House wbat did you do 1 You are very and Gandhian leader, Mr. Dandavate. Mr. careful of it, you are very cautious because Ready please hear. (Interruption,) There you are the protectors of liberty, you want is a Commission of Inquiry report tq give the cleanliness to the country and against*· What happened to it. you want to put each and every fact be- fore the nation because you are to apprise SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Your the nation as to what happened since 1977 party is in power in Orissa. to 1980. It was the aJIegation made against • * relatives by the then Prime Minister. SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: I am It was the allegation made by the then referring to years 1977-80 when you were Home Minister against the relatives of the in power whether you were vigilant. Did then Prime Minister. That was so crucial you ever ask that Commission of Inquiry a report. When it was presented before report against·* should be discussed and the House Mr. Chatterjee was a Member implemented? of the House. But he had never asked that there should be a discussiou on the report SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, he in this House. I would like to know whet- is referring to the leader of the Opposi. her he has asked for it or not. Is it not tion .•. (Interruptions) important that politicians .. (Interruptions) ••••• MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If there is any allegation I will not allow. I will SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub- go through the record. If there is any nagar) : We demanded action on the basis allegation I will expung it. of that report. You do have the courage. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Mr. SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I know· * Charan Singh, who was the Home Minister at that time was interviewed by the press THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE people at Calcutta. Wbat be replied was MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC that he was ~urrounded by dishonest per- GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS AND sons. It was a statement of tbe Home MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINI- Minister at that time. STRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): Sir, the bon. Mem- SHRI S JAIPAL REDDY: You read ber should withdraw those remarks. I do the letter of Mr. Kamalapati Tripathi. not think he can accuse the Chair·* (Interruptions) I think he should withdraw those SHRI RAM SINGH YADA V : Was it words. * * It is on the record. I think not proper on the part of the opposition you should withdraw it. to know about those facts, to discuss those facts, to let the whole nation know what MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: That is Mr. Vaidyalingam had said ** you are the not the way, Mr. Reddy. You have to protectors of liberty, you are the protec- withdraw those words. You cannot cast tors of the interest of the people and you aspersion on the Chair. ** are the persons who are going to apprise the people of the country about the deve- SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: You lopment which has taken pJace. * * said it in anger but pJease withdraw it now.** 18.00 brs. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir. I MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please said I want to draw your attention ...• conclude. (Interruptions) ** ·*BxpUDled as ordered by the Chair. 46' SI. Res. re : DisQ'pt'o,.1 JULY 2~. 1986 COllHflt.I01IS 01 Inqlllry 464 of Ordi"tmCt and (Amdt ) Bill--CHIll PRO~ MADHU DANDAVATE PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: He (Rajapur): Sir, be meant·· He did not is saying be did not mean any dis-respect say about the Chair. to the Chair. He only meant disrespect to the Government. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. He told about the Chait. SHRI P. CHIDAMBA RAM: I can- not understand why the oon. Member who PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir, obviously said somethinl in anger cannot the grammar was wrong. now withdraw with grace those words which he said. Everybody knows what MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Do not you said. Record ~an be read back to blame the grammar ? the hone House We know what you said. You simply withdraw. (lnlerruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: What SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: He did I s~~y? Can the Minister explain ? should withdraw it. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: [have MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ~ Let him not to explain. Why should I explain? withdraw it .. What you said was .. SHR.I S. JAIPAL REDDY: If you PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: If feel. . (/"terr"plions) yeu quo te it will mt an devil quoting the Bible. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I oppose the manner of using the words· * I am SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I do Ddt being strict. I am always lenient to not mind being the devil as long as your every person and group. words do not go into your Bible. Your Bib1e might be spoiled by those words. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir, So you withdraw those words. all that he meant was that he will expose your leniency.·· Sir, on his behalf... SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: What did I say? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: When tbe Prcfessor is coming forward why does SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Why not tbe Member come forward? It is don't you simply withdraw the words? not fair. You have to withdraw. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY; Am I to withdraw the whole thing 1 said? SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I follow your advice provided you tell me what SHRI p. CHIDAMBARAM: Those should I withdraw? (lnlerruptions) two sentences should be withdrawn.·· SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I will SHRI S JAIPAL REDDY: I have tell you what you should withdr ~l w. not said. I never said. (Interruptions) SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Wbat did you say? SHRI S. JAIPAL REDOY = Please 10 through the rcccrd and whatever part SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I said I you want to expuf,ge you expunge. I will .. (Interruptions) I never used that did not mean any dis-respect to the Chair. word.-· MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER .: No. No. SHRI S. JAIPAL Rf.DDY: You Just now you told. expunge it; **Sxpunged as ordered by the Chair. 46S· St. ReI. re : DI.appro,al SRAVANA 7, 1908 (SAKA) Commullon, o/lnqlliry ~ olOrdlnance and (Amdt.) Bill-Contd. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You with- said that I will go through the record. draw it. Mr. Yadav, pJease wind up. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: If I said rInlerruptiofll) it, I withdraw it. Sir, I am now on a point of order. Reference has been made PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir. to the former Prime Minister· who is *. if you expunge then balf of this lecture is not in the House. This must be expun- gone. SO )OU may give him more time. ged. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If it is SHRI BIPIN PAL DAS_ (Tezpur): an allegation I will expunge. Sir, we never use defamatory words against anybody. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Yes it is an allegation. SHIU S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir I did. not say that he had used defamatory' MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If it is words but his Speech consisted of asper- an allegation I will expunge it. sions on the former Prime Minister. (Interruptions) Sir, if this is the precedent SHRI P. NAMGY AL: He has got then we will have to draw upon tbe prece- every right to quote it. dent in future and I want the Chair to bear this in mind. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: He has made an aIIegation. It should not go on MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have al- record. ready given my ruling. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Reddy, I am saying if it is an allegation SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: What is I will expunge it. your ruling? SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: What is MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have an allesation ? already said that if there is any allegation on the persoll I will expunge it. Mr. Yadav MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Any please wind up_ allegation against any person I wiJI expunge. SHRI RAM SINGH _Y ADA V : Sir, I SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: No emi- was narrating that so many commissions nent person can be reflected on. Reflec- have been appointed. So many inquiry tion was soulht to be cast on none other reports are there. They have been presen- than the -Prime Minister of India. A ted in the Houses also, in the State reflection was sought to be cast on the Assemblies and Parliament also but the former Prime Minister of India. Opposition bas never demanded any imple- mentation on those reports altbough tbey MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will were with regard to tbe allegations against 10 through tbe record. If it is an allega- the corruption of the persons in the office. Interruptions) There was a commission tion I will expunge it. r against •• the Chief Minister of Punjab. The Commission of Inquiry report came SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: If tbrough in. was never implemented. What a reference an aspenion is cast, a reflec- It happened to that report? (111terrupllon&) tion is. cast then it cannot go 00 record. Why are you worried? Try to understand It would not 10 on record. these things. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have told you I will expunge it. I have already (Interruptions) ••Bxpunaed as ordered by the Chair. •• O.c. B.O.C. MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: No inter- A FPA IRS (SHRIMATI SHBILA ruptions Please. Mr. Vadav. please wind oj) DIKSHIT) : I beg to present the TwentJ- DOW. fifth Report of the Business Advisory Committee. SHRI RAM SINOR Y ADA V: As I was tening, the practice in Parliament as "ell al in the State Assemblies has been that the reports of the Commissions of InqDiry are not discussed in the House; it may be laid in the Parliament or the MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : No •• State Assemblies. And th~ft it bas never Papers to be Laid on tlae Table. Shri been impJomented in all cases and never Gadhvi. been insisted upon by the Members of the opposition parties for their implementation SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE and discussion. I do not say that it has (Bo)pur) : Sir, I rise on a poiDt of order. happened in almost all cases. For some This is a very important matter, because of the cases, the reports have not been they seek to lay copies of notifications discussed and not implemented especially giving certain concessions and exemptions during the period when the opposition was in excise duty and customs duty. It does in power~ that is the period from 1977 to not mention what the items are. What are i 980. There was a Commission of Inquiry the Members supposed to know from this, report against •• the then Chief Minister on what items the concessions have been of Punjab. In 1977, the Opposition aIJowed liven and exemptions have been liven him to be the Chief Minister again, when in excise duties. tbere was a report of the Commission of Inquiry against him. Who implemented it and wbo acted upon it ? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKBR: That is why, the notifications are beinl laid on tbe PItOF. MADHU DANDAVATB : We Table of the House. are prepared to withdraw from power with retrospective effect. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: It SHRI RAM SINGH Y ADA V: Tbe bas to be mentioned in the intimation to present legislation is in consonance with tbe Members. This is not even a summary the practice already prevailing in the of the notifications. I am bot asklnl for country. It is notbing new and this amend- details, but they must mention in reapect Ins Bill does not give any new powers to of which goods these concessions and tIM5 Government. It K, in fact, in the lar ger exemptions in excise duties are. Tbis must Interest of the nation. I think, in the be stated. atmosphere of amity and sobriety, in whicb tbe Punjab problem bas been tJscussed by the opposition and the ruliDl MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: You caD party Members, tbe opposition would con- look into tbe notifications; these are sider tbts amendment in tbe same spirit being laid on the Table of the House. also. This amendment i. on sound (ootiDl and I. daerefore, support it. SlIRI SOMNA TH CHATTltlUBE : But I must know aomethiD, about lhea noW. These are vety important powen 11.13.1 given to the executive and these have to BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEB be exercised with Ireat al'l1011&1t of citcams- pection and the r~quiremcnt is that it llaI T"eDty-8fth Report to be laid before the HOUle. But the (.""h14 House is not told what tbese ...... and on which these concessions and ex· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE emptions in excise duties anet cuatoms MIN1STRY OF PARLIAMENTARY duties are bela, ,ivea. ••Expuo,ed .. ordered b, the Chair. SRAVANA 7, 1988 (SAICA) Ptl/MI'Laid 47' THBMINISTER OF STATB IN THE Make it a workabJe intimation .• •«1111."",. MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL. PUBLIC tion,). GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS AND MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE MINIS- THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE TRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI P DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE CHIDAMBARAM): Which is the rule (SHRI B.IC. GADHVI): It is laid on the which it violated? table of the House. It is tbere ...(lnte""p- tlon,). SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: The rules requiro that under appropriate SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERJEE: section of the Act the notification must be Therefore, why are you quarrelling with laid before thi$ House. me ? I am not quarrelling with you. I am only requesting the Chair that be (Interruptlo".) shou Id make an observation that the type of goods for wbich concessions and exemp- SURI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Which tions were announnced should also have rules of procedure are violated '1 What is been mentioned. your point of order? Under what rule. are you raising it , That is the point. ( Interl1lptions) SHRI SOMNAm CHATTERJEE: I SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM : This is a am not trying to stop the presentation of a request from the member. He wants some the DotificatioD ••• (lnterruptions) explanation. There is no point of order in it and he is pressing for a point of SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Mr. order. Deputy Speaker, if be bas a point of order let him say what is his point of order. SHRISOMNATH CHATTERJEE: It say, 'point of propriety'. (Interruptions). SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM : You rose MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I request on a point of order and not on a point of you to pJease quote the rule. Kindly propriety. explain which is the rule tbat is violated. You cannot simply go on like this. Quote SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: the rule. Mr. Chidambaram, you seem to be very carefuJ about what other members are SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: saying. I bave said both point of order Rule of wbat! I am saying that tbe and point of propriety. provisions of the Act themselves are violated. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Gadhvi. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : That is not the question. We are concerned her with only rules of procedure. PAPER LAID ON THE TABLE NotUicatioas under the:CeDtral Excise Rules, 1944 and the Customs Ad, 1962 SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY (Katwa) : Why are you in terruptinl bim ? (Engll.lll] You please listen to him. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJBB: DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE Kindly have patience for a minute. I am (SHRI B K. GADHVI) : I beg to lay OD ODI, la),iDI tbis. Why don't you mention the Table- the items of lood, also here? I t is a -n ut proprMy. There Is the question (1) A copy each of Notification Nos. of lhowiDa proper respect to Parliament. 364/&6-ce to ~ ~l86-:CI \HiD4i 47J JULY 29, 1986 P~r Laid 412 [Sbri B.K. Gadbvi] planatory memorandum reprdina certain concessions and exemp- and Bnglish versions) published in tions in customs duties under Gazette of India dated the 29th section 159 of the Customs Act, July, 1986 together with an 1962. explanatory memorandum regard- ing certain concessions and [Placed in Library. See No. LT exemptions in excise duties issued 2841/86] under tbe Central Excise Rules, 1944. (InterruptiolU) {Placed in Library. See. No LT. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. I do 2840/86] not want any further discussion on this point. The House stands adjourned to (2) A copy each of Notification Nos. meet again tomorrow at 11 A.M. 386/86-Customs to 391/86- Customs and 393/86-Customs to 18.18 bra. 398/86-Customs (Hindi and English versions) published in The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven Gazette of India dated the 29th of the Clock on Wednesday July 30, 1986/ July 1986 together with an ex- Sravana 8, 1908 (Soko) Shree Dur.. Printing P.ress, Delhi-,