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SENATE. etc., which "\Ya referred to the Committee on Inter~ tate Com merce. :MoNDA.Y Janua'ry ~3} 1922. Mr. DADD presented 48 petitions of sund.ry citizens of Souris, The l!aplain, RcY. J. J. 1\fuir, D. D., offered the following Cogswell, Brampto.n, Lundsvalley, Maddock, M()untain, Goocl prayer: rich, l\fercer, .McClusky, La 1\foure, Marion, Ypsilanti, Eckelson, Pekin, Arnegard, Rydel', 1\Iohall, Maxbass, Wheelock, Reeder, Our Fathei:, Thou hast very often proven Thyself to be a 'Bucyrus, Haley, Tolley, Norma, Kenmare, Lisbon, Elliott, Coal present help in time of trouble. As we look.out upen tbe wodd 1Harbor, Kulm, Merricourt, Leroy, Backoo, Neche, Sheyenne, this morning we see tbat sorrow is everywhere present. As iPark Ri\er, and Hoople, all in the State of North Dakota, and multitudes the world over bow. before the bier. of a distinguished· of Newark, S. D.ak., p1·aying for the enactment of legisla prelate, as a nation sorrows becauso an honored statesman has tion reviving the Government Gram Corporation, so as to passed a"ITny, and as there are so many homes shadowed by the stabilize price of certain farm products, whieh were referrecl presence of a Yacant chair, we would ask Thee to--day, our to the Committee on Agriculture and Forestry• . Father, o to move upon onr.hearts and.lives that through those He· also presented· a re.solution . adopted at a public gathering monition. of Thy providence TI"e may, learn to live right and to of farmers and business men ~ld at Aneta, N. Dak., January do right, and to fulfill always Thy pleasur in connection with lG, 1922, favoring the enactment of legislation reviving the the Nation and with humanity at large. \\e ask in Jesus' Government Grain Corporation, so as to stabilize prices of cer name. Amen. tain farm products, which was referred to the Committee on Agriculture and Forestry. The .A ·~i ·tant Secretary proceedell to reau the Journal of the proceedina- · of the legislatiYe day. of Friday, January 20, 1922, P AYU:;s'KEY RIVER BRIDGE. when, on request of Mr. C'u&TIS and by unanimous con:ent, the Mr. SHEPPA.RD. From the. Com.Inittee on Commerce I re further reading was dispensed with and the Journal 'Tas ap port back favorably without ameudnumt the bill (H. R. 9050) proved. gJ.·anting the consent of Congress-to the Pamunkey Ferry Co. C~LL OF THE ROJ.L. to construct a bridge across the Pamunkey River in Vil•ginia, l\lr. CURTIS. :\Jr. Pre ident, I ·uo-ge. t the absence of a q·uo and I submit a report. {No. 448) thereon. I ask unanimous rum. consent for the immediate consideration of the bill. The VICE PRESIDE~T. T.he Secretary will call the roll. There being no objection, the Seu.a.te, as in ,Committee of the . The Assi ·tant Secretary called the roll, and the follo"ITing Sen Whole, proceeded to consider the bill, which was read, as ator: an ''\\'ered to their names: follows: Ashurst Gla.ss ~!c]i:ell:u Simmons Be it en,acted, etc., That tb;e consent of Congres£ is hereby g:cante.d Borah Ilalc ?llci~ary Smith tFrance La FoJlette Moses Sutherland By Mr. KELLOGG: Frelinghuysen Lenroot Pomerene Townsend Gooding McLean Smoot Walsh, Mont. A bill (S. 3053) for the relief of Mar hall-Wells Co., of Du The VICE PRESIDENT. Sixty Senator ~ having answered to luth, 1\Iinn. ; to the Committee on Claims. their names, a quorum is present. By 1\Ir. McNARY: A. bill ( S. 3054) for the relief of J'olln Kearney ; to the Com PETITIONS. mittee on Military Affairs. l\Ir. HARRIS presented a resolution adopted by the board By 1\Ir. BRAl"\TDEGEE : of directors of the Savannah (Ga.) Cotton Exchange, requesting A bill (S. 3055) granting an increase of pension to Edward Congress to make a thorough investigation of the Crop Report F. La Rock (with accompanying- papers); to the Committee ing Bureau of the Department of Agriculture, with a ·view to on Pensions. Memorandum, of second conference bettceen a special committee ot t·ail By Mr. ODD IE: ~ ~·oad ezecutives and a transpot·tation committee ot agriNJlture ana A joint resolution (S. J. Res. 157) extending the time for the 1ndustru 1teld at the R.acq1~et Club, Washington, D. 0., Decembe1· performance of certain acts under the act of Cong1·ess approved 9, 1921. February ·25, 1920, entitled "An act to promote the mining o:t The participants in the conference were: coal, phosphate, oil, oil shale, gas, and sodium on the public RAILROAD ExECUTIVES. domain," and for other purposes; to the Committee on Public W. ,V. Atterbury, chairman special committee of railroa'l Land~ and Surveys. e:x~cuth·es, Pennsylvania Railroad, Philadelphia . .AD.JUST:hfENJ.' OF FOREIGN LOANS. Howard Elliott, special committee of railroad executiyes, 1\Ir. NORRIS and 1\fr. McKELLAR submitted amendments in Northern Pacific Railroad, New York. tended to be proposed by them to the bil~ (H. R. 8762) to create W. B. Storey, special committee of railroad executiYes, Santa a commission authorized under certain conditions to refund or Fe Railroad, New·York. connrt obligations of foreign Governments owing to the United W. J. ·Harahan, special committee of railroad executives, State::; of America, and for other purposes, which were ordered Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co., New York. to lie on the table and to be printed. · R. S. Binkert, assistant to chairman, Association of Railway COMMITTEE SERVICE. Executin•s, 61 Broadway, New York. . On motion of l\Ir. CURTIS it was AomcuLTURAL REPRESEXT.lTn·Es. Ordered, That the Senator from New Jersey [Mr. FnELIXGHUYSEx] r:: J. R. Howar:d, president Ame.rican Farm Bureau Federation, be excused from further service on the Committee on Bank-ing and Cur- uS East Washmgton Street, Chicago, Ill. renc:r. 1;1nd that the Sena~or from New Jersey [Mr. EooEl. be ~ssigned Gray Silver, Washington representative American Farm Bu- to serv1ce on that committee; that thE!; Senator from C!lhforma [Mr. I reau Federation l\Iunser Buildin(T Washington D C JoHxsox] be excused from further service on the Committee on Inter- ' :' '?' ~ •. · · . oceanic Canals and be assigned to service on the Committee on Rules; 0. E. Bradfute, chan·man legislative committee, Amencan tha~ the S~nator from Ne~ Mexico [~r. B_unsuM] be assigned to the J Farm Bureau Federation, 58 East Washington Street, Chicago. cha1rmansh~p of the Committee on.Penstons, ~d that the Senat~r from H. • l\IcKenzie member le(Tislative committee American Pennsylvania. [Mr. PEPPER] be assigned to service on the Committee on · ' . o _ ' Banking and Currency, the Committee on Interoceanic Canals, and the Farm Bureau FederatiOn, Walton, 1\. Y. Committee on the Library. Ralph Snyder, member legislati\e committee, American Farm GOLD AND COMMODITY SECURED CUBREXCY. Bureau Federation, 0 •kaloosa, Kans. 1\Ir·. OWEN. 1\Ir. President, I wish to call attention to a re- T. C. Atke on, legiJ l;ltile representative, Kational Grange, National Bank of Washington Building, Washington, D. C. · markable address delivered by tile Comptroller of the Currency, w. I. Drummond, chairman lJoard of governors, International Hon. D. R. Crissinger, before the National Republican Cll1b, of Farm Congress. New York City, Jan,ua.ry 21, 1922, and express my hearty appre- 1 XDCST RIAI, REI'RESEXT!.Tl \"ES. ciation of his vision and intelligent comprehension of one of the ,\ GTOllOBILES. most im11ortnnt of an international problems. A. J. Brosseau, Xat:.onal Automohile Chumber ot uommerce, He aiu that 11e had in mind to apply .the "principle of segre 366 l\Iadison AYenue. Xew York City.. gated credit and responsibility, in order to proYide a .·ound, J. S. Mnn-in, ~atioual Automobile Chamber of Commerce, 36G uniform, and reliP.. ble basis for the transactions of international l\ladi ·on A.Yeuue, !'ie"' York Cit:r. trade." colL. He saiu: John 'allahan, traffic mauager National Coal Associa,tion, Grantinf all that may be said about the difficulties and complications in ..-olve(l, am nevertheless prepared to make my own mode::t claims Commercial Bank Bnil to certify controversies with the Labor Board; asking a further There also seems to be at least one defect in the provisions reduction in basic wages. - made by the transportation act, which is obvious, and· that :i With regard to men employed in train and yard service the the entire separation of· the responsibility for income, as deter effort will be-to get back at least to the wages which existed mined by rates through the Interstate Commerce Commission, prior to the increase of July 20, 1920, and in other classes of·· ·and the responsibility for outgo, as determined by wages and labor to get back · to the now prevailing rates of pay for such working conditions by the United States Railroad Labor Board. labor in the different parts of the country. The reductions will· This recognition has _been spontan.eous and general throughout probably not be· uniform in each section, and any estimate of the country. Some change in this situation will· have to be their aggregate can not be wholly accurate, but it is assumed ma,de within &orne. reas-onable time. 'Ve are not- prepared at that if the Labor Board grants what the managements are now the moment to say what :we think it should be. ·but \Ve do desire asking it would result in a reduction of the pay roll amounting to your help in spreading the idea that this obvious defect should something between three and four hundred million 'dollars. be remedied, and ~e w.o.u,ld like ver·y mucll to get , your idea The public has a right to expect the railway· executives to as to what the best remedy would be. We, of com·se, are not only give it a leadership as to the way out from ' the present vicious willing but anxious to fight out this pending wage controversy circle of the high cost of operation, high -rates, and high cost with the constituted authorities as they n·ow exist, and are not of living. This the executives are endeavoring to do fully and desirous of complicatipg that with suggestions for change. in an orderly and lawful manner. Nevertheless, the time when some.change must be made may be They feel that they have now brought the situation to a point near at hand, and we would ask your earnest coru ideration of where we can profitably ~iscuss concrete steps of cooperation. whether or not any national regulation of the wages and worhi.Iig In the first place, of course, they desire your cooperation in coQ.ditions _of all kinds of railway labor can be instituted which bringing legitimate pre sure to bear upon the Labor Board · for would not haYe the inevitable result of artificially standardiz the pending reduction in wages. Section 307 of the transporta- ing upward the rates of pay and working conditions of railroad tion act requires the Labor Board in fixing wages to take into employees. . account not only the cost of living, wages in other industries, If it be true that no form of national regulation of wage anu and the degree of sldll or hazard involved in various lines·· of working conditions can be devised which is free from this fun railroad work, but also "other relevant circumstanceS." ·Among damental effect, then it ~eems to me we shquld try to 'find some the most relevant of these circumstances the executives feel to method whereby when genuine disputes come to a ·head 'there be the fact that the agriculture and industry of this country can be a peaceful and orderly method of attempting an appeal to can not and should not be required to go on paying the present reason and justice before we come to the possibility of an or ratefl for. transportation made necess~ry · by abnormally high ganized strike. costs, but in pressing this consideration. on the attention of the In conclusion, ·I wish to express on behalf of all of the Labor Board they must necessarily. rely to a ._very large extent executive their appreciation of the spirit of good will and co upon the agricultural and business interests speaking for them- operation_with which you have met us. We are trying to find selves and pres.:ing: tllis point home. ·- _ :;t way out of present difficulties in which we bear our burden There are other lines along which . profitable coop~ration in and make our sacrifice just-as much as any other· interest, ami reducing transportation costs should be given. There are so- in which we do not try to bring ourselves out whole by a called full crew law in some 12 or 15 . States which do not process other than one which \Vill help to bring agriculture and permit railroads to handle their · traffic in heavy train lo~ds. indti.stry out whole. At the same time, we want to urge you There are. numerOJL'ii laws in. almost all States, and differing eveq to pear in mind that there is an enormous public interest in in adjoining States, w.ith regard to headlights, construction of th-e restoration pf the earning power of the railroads. The cars, and many other details which hamper executives in getting railroads are the biggest single industry in the country. ·They the highest efficiency ·otit. of the tools of tran ·portation, and represent about a third of the iron and. coal i;ndustry, and to be which -necessarily add to the cost and · complexity· of ·railway. in a position where they can demand credit for new cars and management. ·We hope that you will· favoi· joining hands with locomotives ·and for extension and improvements and making us in some general campaign to get ·rid· of tni costly and up deferred maintenance would in itself go a considerable demoralizing legislation~ - · ·· · · distance toward restoring normal business activity. And unless On December 14 a hearing will open before the Inter tate the railro-ads do get their (;'arning power back with reasonable Commerce Comrnis ion on an inquiry to determine whether or promptness they will not be able to make up their deferred not the railroads can be reasonably r·equired to make any fur- maintenance, buy new cars and locomotives, and make other ther reductions in rates without compensating reductions ir.L 'improvem~nts essential to their being able to meet the traffic their operating expenses. In connection with those hearings of the com1try when business again comes at full tide. we would like to haYe you~· support for our fundamental posi- rNTERNATIO~AL HARVESTER co. tion that reduction in rates and reductions in expense should l\Ir. KOUH.IS. Mr. President, I submit a Senate resolution go itaild.in hand. (S. H-es. ~23) and a k unanimous consent for it· present consid- In OQngres - the railroads are fac:;ed with th~ :so-called Capper eration. bi~l, which proposes to trike out the so-called 5~ or . 6 per cent 1\ir. CURTIS. Let it be read. rate-maki)lg provision and to restore to the State autho1ities The YICE PRESIDENT. The Sec 1~etary will rea._ / Whereas it is necessary and urgent in the public interest, without fur If I have been. correctly informed, a vast amount of such ther and unnecessary delay, to procure complete separation of o~er ship and control, direct or indirect, of said M.c<;o}-'mick und De~rmg materials is possible of salvage from these explosiYe shells. plants an .)Jr. SMOOT. I imply stated that I had not had time to The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there objection to the pre cnt tead the report which has 1just .been presented, but. if there is c.o.usideration .of tl1e bill? . nothing more involved thnn as stated by the ·Senato,l.' irom Ohio There being no ·objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the I lla1c no objection to the bill. Whole, proceeded to consider the bill. 1\Jr. WILLIS. That is all there is to it. ' The amendment reported by· the Committee on :Banking and • 'l11e VICE PRESIDENT. Is there objection to the immediate Currency was to strike out all after the enacting clause and onsideration of the bill? to insert: · That for the purpo e of . aiding in defraying the cost of erecting Mr. KING. 1\Ir. President, I £!hould like to ask the Senator a community building in the villacre of Georgetown Brown County, from Ohio or the Senator from Connecticut if there is not ·Ohio, ·nnd a like buildin~ in the village of Bethel, Clermont County, f.-orne e:xpen e involYed? The bill will require, as I understand, ·Ohio, as a memorial to Ulysses S. Grant, late President of 1:ho United ~tat s, and for the purpose of constructing a highway 5 miles in the coins to be produced at the mint. length from New ·Richmond, Ohio, to 'Point Plea ant, Clermont County, l\1r. 'VILLIS. Let me answer the Senator. If he will ·read Ohio, the place of birth of Ulysses S. Grant, to be known as the Grant the last section of the bill, he will notice the following pro Memorjal Road, there shall be ·coined in the mints of the United States, Grant memorial gold dollars to the number of 10,000 and Grant memo yiso: rial ·silver half dollars to the number of 250,000, said coins to be Proridccl. That the nited States sball not be subject to tbe ex of a 'Standard Troy weight, composition, diameter, and .Uesigu as pense of making tbe necessary dies and other preparations for this shall be fixed by the Director of . the Mint and approved by the coinage. Secretary of the Treasury, -wbich said coins shall be legal tender to the amount of •theiL· face value, to be known as the Grant memo l\fr. KING. Yes; but where will the coins be produ~ed? rial gold dollar and the Grant memorial silver half dollar struck in Obviously in the mints. commemoration of the. centenary of the birth of Ulysses S. Grant, late President of the United States. 1\lr . ., ILLIS. It is provided in the bill, as I recall, that That all laws now in force relating to the gold coins and subsidiary tlley are to be produced at the mint in Philadelphia. l\Iy ~ilver coins of tbe United States and the coining or ti•iking of the same, regulating and guarding the process (Jf coinage, providing for the understanding of the matter is that the association is to bear purchase of material and for the transportation, distribution, and re all expenses. There is to be absolutely no expense to the Gol' Whereas on July 1, 1921. the llon. Charles Evans Hughes, Secretary of There are many causes conspiring to bring about lliis unsatis State, addressed a note to the Hon. Alfred Sze. Chinese minister to the United States, in which he stated the position of the Amer~can factory condition. · Congress is compelled to take cognizance of Government in the following terms: "The Government of the Umted the matter, because of the large number of Federal employees States never has associated itself with any arrangement which sought to establish any special rights in China which would abridge the who must be decently and properly housed. The situation can rights of the subjects or citizens of other friendly States; and I am not escape congressional consideration. I do not mean that happy to assure you that it is the purpose of this Government neither Congress shall become paternalistic or build houses for Federai. to participate in nor to acquiesce in any arrangement which might employees; but certainly it is within the power of Congress to purport to establlsh in favor of foreign interests a superiority of rights with respect to · commercial and economic development in see that combinations and conspiracies to profiteer and to rot> designated regions of the territories of China " ; and and plunder shall not be permitted. Whereas the text of the invitation sent to the Government of China by the President of the United States under date of August 11, 1921, Senators know that the situation shows but slight improve reads: "It is quite clear that there can be no final assurance of the ment. Indeed, I am advised by some that with the expiration peace of the world in the absence of the desire for peace. and the of the Bull rent act conditions will become Yery much more prospect of reduced arm;lment is not a hopeful one unless this desire finds expression in a practical effort to remove causes of misunder serious and great hardship will result to thousands of people standing and to seek ground for agreement as to principles and their residing here! and particularly those who work for the Go\ern application. It is the earnest wish of this Government that through ment, many of them at salaries so small as to make it impos an interchange of views with the facilities afforded by a conference it may be possible to find a solution of Pacific and Far Eastern prob- ' sible for them to pay even the rents which they are now called lems of unquestioned . importance at this time"; and upon to meet. When the Ball Act was offered some Senators Whereas the Hon. Charles Evans Hu~hes, Secretary of State, bas in opposed it, but not because of. any sympathy which they had the course of his correspondence With Japan and the other powers signatories of the treaty of Versailles declared "There would be no for landlords and for the methods adopted by many persons valid or effective disposition of the overseas possessions of Germany who were renting houses. Let me add tha"t there are many own now under consideration without the assent of the United States"; ers of property who treat their tenants in a just and generous and Whereas the Arms Conference, at which Far Eastern problems were to manner. There are others who have been oppressive and whose be discussed, bas been assembled in the city of Washington since treatment of their tenants calls for condemnation. Opposition November 12 or last year, and although no plenary public sessions to the Ball Act grew out of the belief that it was unconstitu of the conference have been hel In a recent building_operation ju$t being completed, the commissions The V:ICE PRESIDENT. The bill will be passed over. and interests on our building_loans, together with the interest and .diS· count charges on the first and second mortgages, amount to approxi Tbe bill (S, 2228) to runend certain sections of the Judicial mately 50 per cent of the physical cost of construction o! the houses Oode.· rela.ting. tor the- Court of Claims was announced as ne_xt themselves. in order. Senators will observe that if robbery of.this killd is continued, Ur. KING. Let that go over. it will greatly aggravate the, building_situation. This letterr The VICE PRESIDENT; The: bill will be passed o\er. shows- a form of · pJ;ofiteering ~ sQ ugly, and ' brutal · that suitable The.biU (S~ · 2337) to amend tb9:'transportation act, 1920,. and language can not be found to chal:acterize it. . for othtt_purposes, was announced' as next· in order. Another letter that I have' received calls attention to what the Mr. SMOOT and'.Mr. CURTIS. Let that go over. v.-.riter conceives to-be an evil. The VICE-PRESIDENT. The:bill•wilLbe passed over. It is in part as follows : The bill (S. 2135) to enable the refunding_of obligations of .Another featur.e that should be changed is the amount of ·· red .tape foreign Governments owiug to the- United , States of America, and unnece sary detai-l. formality one:must go througn. in order . to get permits to build. Inasmuch as you .get a. permit, you must. state first and for other·purposes, was announced as next in order. · who is to consh·uct the building. It you find it necessary to discharge Mr; S.l\fOOT: That is ~ the unfinished business. him,, you must. get another -permit b~fore you .can employ .an~ther~ -' The· VICE PRESIDENT. It will be passed over. nnd if the. fi.rst.1s a union man •. or hru? iniluence WI~ the CC?mmlssloners, The·joint resolution (H. J Res 183) imposing a duty of {\/\ ctanceled-hey are liable to hold you 'llp·mdefulitely-a condition "'h1ch should be per· cent on all. goo ds expor· ted' f rom· the U nt't e d States for . theuv The writer says: use _of-t_he American Expeditionary• Forces, and its:allied forc~s Moreover, they will not allow · anyone to do anything connected with and· whiC_h have· b~u sold to an¥-foreign Government-or person, plumbing. .when rermported mto the Umted States, was announced as I want to add parenthetically that a number of colored men next in order: have been to · S~e me, nnd ha~ protested against what ·they ~Ir. KING. Let that go over.. . . . allege to. be gros -discrimination in· the· District: They say that The VIOE·PRESIDENT. T.he JOmt re oluhon Will be pa eel l.lut few colored men are allowed permits to engage in. the ove£.. . _ . plumbina. business. If that is true tho e who are iudulO'ina. The b1ll (S. 2o15) to amend an act entitled "An· act to in this eli crimination ought to be s~verely rebuked. o o amend. an act. ~ntitled 'An act ~o., making further and more Let me add that ·I shall investio·ate this· matter and if ·the effectual Pl'OVlSlOn for the national ' defens.e; and . f01: .. other complaint are found to be true I ~hall attempt to' remove any l?UTJ?Os~;/ ap~roved June 3, 1916,1 and · to estab~h · milita~·y further ground ·for complaint. JUStice, appEoved June 4, 1920, w.as announced as next m Tllis writer says: order. I have worked in this business for eight years, but would be obliged ~lr; Sl\IOOT. Let that ' go o'~er. . . to employ a regular registered plumber, at a rate of ·$8.50 a day, and The-VICE PRESIDENT. Tlie btU will be· •passed over. w.ait \llltil h~ ·was good and ready, and at ' an expense of !J.o~ding.- -the The bill ( S. 268) for the relief of William: 0. MaUahan was whole op~a?on up_.for several d.aY:s. .As long as. the wor.k .1~ u1spected.. announ-ced as next in order- by the D1str1ct engmeers before 1t 1s allowed ·to be used, I.thmk anyone T • should be allowed to. do the work. if they see fit. • I have followed the. Mr. KING. Let that go, over. plumbing business,. as above ·. state?·· .a.nd would be able to do• as . good The· VICE PRESIDENT. The bill· will be passed o\er. work. as a_nyo~e. but to get .a permJ.t I would: have to pa.ss a_long-dr.awn-. The bill (S 2035) for the -relief of William M Carroll was· out ex-a.mmahon, put up a bond of · $2.000, and deposit with the Dis- • · . • trict $50. Upon :a .little investigation of the plumbers' code you will announced as next m order. rcadUy,.see that it is a upion man~s · para.dis.e amJ.~ public menace.. 1\fr. KING. Let that go. over. I mention these facts .to show·how 1t _ls poss1hle for . the untons to Th VICE PRESIDENT· Th b'll · '11 b d hold out the nonunion man, ::md also fQrm a barricade for the con- . ~ e · . · e. 1 • Wl e. passe over. tractors to , hi.de .behind. It · makes it-practieally impossible for a man The resolutwn ( S. Res. 150) dtrecting . the Secretary of the to bring, some honest man in and.let him do ·hls work. I will say that Senate to employ a special officer for the otfice.·of the Secretary a man should- be permitted to do work that is afterwards inspected by f th S t . . t · d .. the engi.nee1·s of .the District, beeause if it is not right the engineers o e ena e was announced as nex In or er. will not pass it until it is made right. . Mr. KING. Let that go. over I express no opinion as to tile-merits or demerit of the state- The VICE PRESIDENT. The re olntion will be pas. ed ments 'ju t read. ·I call attention; to these matters, hoping that· ov-er. these and other questions will receive· consideration in the in- The bill (S. 2573) to amend section 198 of the act of -vestigation which will ~ be made by the- district attorney, with· 'March 4, 1909, entitled ".A:n act to codify, revise, and amend a yiew to ascertaining whether there are combinations upon the penal· laws of the United States," as amended, was an the part of builders or contractors or others which tend to nounced as next in order. increase unduly the. cost of building, or to maintain rent charges Mr. KING. Let that go ove:!;. at levels so high as to be unfair and oppressiYe. The VICE PRESIDENT. The bill will be passed O\er. The bill (H. R. 833~) to amend_the . transportation act, 1920, Tin] CALENDAR. and· for other purposes; was announced as next in order. The VIOE PRESIDE.... T. The calendar under Rule · VIII Mr. KING. I have not the bill before me; but is not that the is in order. one that was under consideration during the past week? Mr. S1UOOT. r ask. unani..mous consent that we begin. with l\Ir. CURTIS: Let it go over. Order of Business 270, where we left off the· last time the The. VICE PRESIDENT. The bill will be passed over; calendar wa up, and go through·· the bills that were not con- sidered the last time. · PRINTING OF PENSION BILLS, PRIVATE CLAIMS BILLS, ETC. l\lr. McNARY·. r did not understand t11e :reque t of the Sena- The. concurrent resolution (S. Con. Res. 1) providing that tor fr.om Utah. . legislation. dealing_witll • pensions, private claims, distribution of :Mr. SMOOT. The last time we had the calendar 1mder con war trophies, . etc., ~ be initiated by petition on suitable fur siueration we.reached Order of-.Business 27.0. I now ask unani nished forms, was announced as next in order, and the Senate· mous con~ent that we- begin at Order of 'Business 270 and go re umed its consideration: through the bills that were not considered the last time the-cal The- VICE PRESIDENT. This concurrent resolution has· endar was up for consideration. been considered heretofore, and the amendments of the com· Mr. McNARY. That will bring us to the first bill following mittee have- bee:o...:a.greed to. The. question.. is on agreeing to the No. 270 after completing it? concm;rent. resolutton; Mr. SMOOT. Yes. 1\ir W .ADSWORTH. lUr.~ PTesident, I do not intend at lli. McNARY. It will operate·· in that manner? this moment to oppose the concurrent resolution. I should Mr. SMOOT. Yes. I thought it was rather unfair to go like information.. u·om some .. Senator as to what is contem back now to the beginning of the calendar; and nm over just plated:by the phrase "distribut~on of war trophies," which, as the same .bills that we. went over before. _That is the reason I understand, al·e to, be dealt with on an appl·oved form. why I make the request. Mr. SMOOT. I will say to the Senator from New York that Mr. McNARY. I have no objection. . the concurrent l'esolution has reference only to the printing of The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there objection? The Ohair the original bills when they are introduced into the Senate. As h ars none. it is .now, all of these private pension bills ancl claims· bills are The first business on the calendar under the unanimous printed in large quantities-1,654 ,of them, to begin with-and consent agreement was the bill ( S. 2391) to provide for the es they -go to. the libraries throughout the .country; and the Sena tablishment, operation, and maintenance of foreign .trade ~ones : tor•knows_that .bills. of,that character:.are printed sessiou after in ports of entry of the United States, to :expedite and· en= se sion,. an is- Be·it- ernacted, ,etc., That.within .three years from the passage of this The- VICE PRESIDENT. The question on agreeing to the act the President be, and he is hereby, authorized, when in his opinion concurrent resolution, as amended: the public good demands it, to exchange any land or any interest in The concurrent resolution, as amended, was agreed to; as land owned· by the United States now or hereafter set apart for mili tary purposes in the Territory of Hawaii for privately owned land or. follows: land owned. by the- Territory of Hawaii, or any interest therein of. equal Resolved by the Senate (the H 01tse· of Rept·esentatives coneU1'1'i1lf!~, ·value located in that· Territory and selected by the Secretary of War; That legislation dealing with private pensions, either original ·oy- ~n.. ' and thereafter to set apart for military purposes the lands or- interest creases With private claims, and with the distribution of war trophieS therein,so:acquired: Promded, That the Attorney General of the United to municipalities or organizations, shall hereafter be ~itiate!l. by peti States' shall first pass- upon and approve the title to the privately tion upon suitable forms provided for that purpose, which petitiOn shall owned lands· or interest therein to be acquired by the United States be referred to Us appropriate committee without printing other' than ·before any exchange of lands shall be made under the provisions of this by title in the CONGillllSSIONAI.. RECORD ; and that a.ny bill resUlting act. therefrom shall be p,rinted only when. reported favorably by the com 1 SEc. 2. That the value of the lands or interests to be so exchanged mittee. shalL he determined hy three appraisers,. to be appointed by the Secre CHARLES F. GETCHELL. tary·· of War. The expense .,neeessary to· elfect the appraisement herein a-uthorized, when appro-ved by the ·military commander ot the Hawaiian Tbe bill ( S. 748) to remove the.. charge of desertion from the Department, may be paid (}Ut of the· curre'Ilt appropriation for con· military record of Charles F. Getchell was announced as next tingencies of the Army. in order. Mr. KING. I · should· like to ask the Senator from New York Mr. SMOOT. 1\Ir. President, my colleague [1\Ir. KING] asked ·[Mr. W ADswo:&TH] whether it is contemplated that the au~ me, in case he left the Chamber-which he was compelled to ·thority he:~;eby conferred will be exercised; that is to say, is do-to object to the- considel'ation of this bill at this· time. 1there a. situation, now· existing. which in the near future will The VICE PRESIDENT. The bill will be passed O\er. call for -the exchange of Government land for privately owned ORIK THORNTON. land? The bill (S. 1655) for the relief of Orin Thornton was an lUI': 'VADSWORTH. Yes; the bill results from a pending nounced as next in order. situation in wlliCh the. Government owns some lands for which Mr. SMOOT. I ask to hm·e the same course taken with that :it has no use, and there are some other lands- owned by the bill; for the same reason. - Territory or· private· individuals adjoining Government property 1\Ir. CARAWAY. 1\Ii~. President, just one ·moment. which the Government needs: The proposition' is to exchange Mr. SMOOT: If the Senator from Arkansas will Wfiit until them, practically without cost to the- Government. The Senate the junior Senator from Utah comes in, he can call up the ·bill has already passe The PRESIDING OFFICER. The present occupant of the It is not good legislation. I do not belie.ve there eyer ought chair has no doubt as to the meaning of the bill. . to be a bill passed by Congress appropriating money for one Mr. W~-\..DSWORTH. It reads "equipment issued mounted specific purpose and· then granting authority to any depart and other organizations, including motor drawn and air serv ment of the Government to spend that money for another Plll' ice"; that is, motor-drawn organizations and air-service or pose. I am opposed to such legislation and I object to the pres gani~a tions. ent consideration of the joint resolution. The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment, Mr .. KING. I suggest to the Senator from New York that it ordered to be engrossed. for a third reading, read the third seems to me the War Department, under the conditions indi time, and passed. · cated, could certify to the Appropliations Committee that thev have a deficit there and needed money for the transportatioil. TRANSPORTATION OF :MILITARY SUPPLIES. of required articles which had been purchased and that Con The joint resolution (S. J. Res. 138) authorizing the pay gress would not hestitate a moment to give it to them. ment of the cost of transportation for certain supplies pur The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair understands the chased by the :Military Establishment was announced as next senior Senator from Utah to object, and the joint resolution in order. goes over. l\Ir. Sl\IOOT. I would like to have the Senator from New Mr. HARRIS. Mr. President, I would like to ask the Senator York make a brief statement showing just what the joint from New York about the appropriation for transportation of resolution proposes. · . the ~ Members of tlie Congress, that approp·riations be itemized in The joint resolution · was reported to the Senate without great detail and the Secretary of Wa1· bound down to a certa.in amendment, ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read figure for any one of hundreds of activities. It is impossible for the thi:rd time, and passed. the Congress to estimate accurately, and we did not estimate CAPT. BENJ~ S. BERRY. is accurately in the matter of transportation. It costing tlle The bill (H. B. 2556) t.o advance Capt. Benjamin S. Berry to Government money Tather tllan saving it. the permanent rank o-f major was announced as next in order. The PRESIDING OFFICER. On objection, the joint resolu Mr. KING. Let that go ·over. tion goes <>ver. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. TRANSPORTATION OF DEPENDENTS OF ABMY CLERKS. THE WILLIAM GORDON CO.RPORATION. The joint resolution ( S. J. Res. 41) authorizing transportation The bill (H. R: 1460) fol' th-e relief of the William Gordon for dependents of Army field clerks and field clerks, Quarter Corporation was considered as in Committee of the Whole, and master Corps, was announced as next in ordcer. was read .as frulows : Mr. KING. I think that had better g<> over. Be it enacted~ ete., That the Secretary of the Treasury be, and he is Mr. SMOOT. Yes; let it go over. hereby, authorized to pay to the William Gordon Corporation such sum, The PRESIDING OFFICER. The joint resolution will go out of any money in the Treasury .not otherwise appropriated, _not ex oyer. ceeding $8,000, as lw may determine will compensate the said corpora tion for turni.shing temporary heat to the Interior Department Office M.Al'..GAB-ET I. VARNUi\L Building as a result of the extension of time on their contract. The bill (S. 2328) for the relief of Margaret I. VaTmtm wa-s The bill was reported to the S-enate without amendment, announced as next in order~ <>rdered to a third reading, read the third time, and passed. . Mr. KING. Let that go over. BILLS PAS SED OVER. The PRESIDING OFFICER. It will go o-ver. The bill ( S. 1298) to carry out the findings of the Court of CORRECTI{)N OF ~IILITARY RECORDS. Claims in the case of the Fore Rir-er Shipbuilding Co. was an The joint resolution (S. J. Res. 28) to provide fo1· ::tm;>ropriate nounced as next in order. military records for persons who, pursuant to orders, reported Mr. KING. Let the bill go oYer. for military duty, but whose induction or commission into the The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection being made, the bill service was not, through no fault of their own, formally c.om will go over. pleted on or prior to No-vember 11, 19;1.8, and ..for other purposes, The bill (H. R. 7589) for the relief of l\Iaj. Ellis B. l\liller was announced as next in order and was reau, as .follows : was announced as next in order. Resolved, etc., That the Secretary of War be, and he is. hereby, au 1\Ir. KING. Let the bill go oYer. thorized to carry upon the records of the War Department as thQogh he had been duly inducted into the service of the United States any The PRESIDn~G OFFICER The bill will be passed over. registrant under the selective service law and regul-ations who applied Th-e bill ( S. 1690) to cor,rect the military record of J olln Sul- for voluntary induction into the service and was accepted, and who, livan was annotmced as next in order. pursuant to competent;. orders, reported for active duty as a soldier, but whose induction into the service, through no fault of his own, was not 1\Jr. KING. Let it go over. formally completed on or prior to November 11, 1918 ; and the name of The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passeu or-.er. any such person shatl, under this act and regulations to be prescribed The bill ( S. 34) f>Or t11e relief of the Pacific Commis.'>ary Co. by the Secretary of War, be so carried upon the records of t)le War was announced as next in order. Department, and any such person shall be deemed to hnve been a ~ol dier and shall be regarded as such from and after the date on which, 1\Ir. Sl\IOOT. Let it go oYer. pursuant to competent orders, he reported fo1· active duty as a soldier, The PRESIDli'\"G OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. to such extent as to entitle him to receive the regular pay and allow ances of an enlisted man for the period of his actual military service 'Tile bill (S. 548) to.:place ...t\lhert Hamilton on the retired list and to a discharge from th~ service as of the dat~ of the termination of the United States Navy was announced as next in order. of such service: Provided, That such persons shall not be entitled to 1\fr. KING4 Let the bill go over. any bonus, gratuity, or . ~lothing or travel allo~ance authorized l1y law for enlisted men upon discharge from the service. · The PRESIDING OFFIDER. On objection the bill g.oes over. SEC. 2. That the President be, and he is hereby, authorized to issue LEA.S.E OF FLOATING DRY DOCK AJ' NEW ORLEANS. an appropriate commission in the name of any person who, while in. the military service of the United States during the war between the United The bill ( S. 2718) to pro-vide for leasing of the floating dry States and Germany and Austria-Hungary. had been duly appointed to a commissioned grade, and, through no fault of his own, was unable to dock at the naval station, New Orleans, La., was considered as accept such commission ·by reason of his death in Hne of duty ; and any in Committee of the Wh'Ole, and was read as follows : such commission shall issue as of the date of sueh appointment, and Be it enacted, etc., That authOl'ity be, and is hereby, given to the after such appointment any such person's name shall be cru'l·ied upon the Secretary of the Navy, when in his discretiQn lt will be for the. pub-lic records of the War DepaJ:tment as of tM grade and bra.nch of the ·erv good, to lease, for periods not exceeding five years and revocable at ice to which he would have been promoted by such commission. any time, the floating dry dock at the naval station, New Orleans, La. ; SEC. 3. That the President be, and h~ is .hereby, authorized to issue and such lease shall be reported annually to Congress : Provided, That an appropriate commission in the name of. any person who, while in the all moneys received from such lease shall be covered into the 'l'reasury military service of the United States during tbe war. between the United . as miscellaneous receipts. States and Germany and Austria-Hungary, may have been officially recommended for promotion to a commissioned grade, which recom The bill was reported to the Senate witlwut amendment, ·or men.datlon shall have been duly approved by the Secretary of Wa.r, or dered to be engrossetl fer a third reading, read the third tim-e, by the commanding general American ExpeditionUJ.'Y Forces., as the and passed. case may be, and who .shall. have be~n U?-able to recei>e and acce11t such commission by reason of his death m iine of duty; and nny sncb com BILLS P .AHSED OVEn. mission shall issue as of the date of snelL approval, and thereafter any such person's name shall be carried upon the records of the War De The bill ( S. 2719) to reimburse certain persons for loss of partment as of the grade and branch of the service to which he woulu pri-vate funds ,,dille the)· w-ere patients at the United States have been promoted by such coiDlllission. Naval Hospital, Naval Operating Base, Hampton Roads, Va., SEC. 4. That the President be, .and he is hereby, authorized to issue an appropriate commission to, any person who, on or prier to November was anno_unced .as next in ord·er. 11, 1918, performed the service of a commissioned officer of the United Mr. SMOOT. Let the :bill go {1)\erL States Army under the Pl'<>mise of or agreement in goo.d faith wH:b PRESIDil~G .The proper authority that a commission would in due time be issued to him, The OFFICER. bill will be passed over. and by reason of unavoidable delay, the signing of the armistice, 'the The bill (S. 2749) i10 ,prepare for future cyclical periods of cessation of hostilities, and orders issued ·in consequence there-of, no dep:ressi<>n and- u:nemployment by systems of public works was commission was ever issued to him in accordance with such promise o~ agreement ; and any such eommission shall issue as of the date of the announced as next .in order. commencem.ent of such .service and in such grade and qranch of· the 1\:Ir. DIAL. Let th-e bill go <>ver. service as promised or agreed upon ; and a:ny such person's name shall The PRESIDING OFFJCER. The bill will be passed over. be carried upon the records of the War Department as of the .grade and branch of the service shown ;in such commission. . GAME SAN OEoRGfo: E. YEADON. DESCHUTES NATIONAL FOREST, OREG. The Senate, us in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to con The Senate, as in Committee of the Whole; proceeded to con sider the bill ( S. :!091) for the relief of George El. Yeadon. It sider the. bill (H. R. 7600) authorizing the adjustment of the authorizes the Secretary of the: Treasury to pay to George E. boundaries of the Deschutes ·National Forest, in the State of Yeadon, of 1\Hd,·ale, Utah, $80 and interest for initi~.l purchase Oregon, and for other purposes, which was read as follows : money paid by him in connection with Salt Lake C1ty (Utah) Be it enacted, etc., That the Secretary of the Interior be, and hereby desert-land entry No. 2110, for certain lands described by metes is, authorized in his discretion to accept on behalf of the United States title to any lands in private ownership within or within G miles of the and bounds in townshi}) 16. south, ·range 6 east, Salt Luke exterior boundaries of the Deschutes National Forest, which, in the meridian. opinion of the Secretary of Agriculture, are chiefly valuable for national The bill was reported to the Senate without amendJ?ent,. or forest purposes, and, in exchange therefor, may issue patent for an dered to be engro sed for a thinl reading, read the th1rd time, equal val-ue of national forest land, in the State of Oregon, or the Secretary of Agriculture may permit the grantor to cut and re~ove an and passed. equal value of timber from any national forest in the State of Oregon, J~ANDS IN COCONINO COUNTY, ARIZ. the values in each instance to be determined by the Secretary of Agri culture and be acceptable to the owner as fair compensation. Timber The Senate as in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to con given in such exchanges shall be cut and removed under the direction sider the om' (S. 2471) to a.mend the act entitled 1'An act au and supervision and in accordance with the requirements of the Secre thorizing the survey and sale of certain lands in Coconino tary of Agriculture. Lands conveyed to the United States under this act shall, upon acceptance of title, become parts of the Deschutes County, Ariz., to the occupants thereof," approved July 28, 1914 National Forest. (38 Stat. L., p. 558), which was read, as follows: The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment, Be it enacted, etc., '!.'hat section 3 of the act entitled "An act ~u thorizing the survey anrt sale of certain lands in Coconino County, !!lZ., ordered to a third reading, read the third time, and passed. to the occupants thereof," approved July 28, 1914 (38 Stat. L., p. o.;8), EXCHANGE OF LANDS IN MONTANA. j amended to read a follows : . "SIW. 3. That any per.son, or bis successors in inter~st, wh.o pr1or to January 1, 1914, were in the actual occupancy of and 1WP!-'OYU?g one or The Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to con more of said tracts for ::urricultural purposes, not exceedmg m al.1 80 sider the bill ( S. 1878) to permit the State of Montana to acres, and have maintained t}?.e same in good faith f~r ~aid. purposes~ exchange cut-o>er timberlands granted for educational purposes upon the filing of an application to enter the same wtthm six months from the filing of the plat of said survey in the local la_nd office, shall for other lands of like character and approximate value. It be entitled to a patent for such tract or tracts upon paymg ~he su~ of provides that tracts of timbered lands heretofore granted to the $1.25 per acre therefor. All such tracts not covered by vahd RJ?phca State of Montana for educational purposes, from which the tions at the expiration of said six months shall thereafter be subJect to cash entry upon payment of $1.25 per care." timber has been cut or removed pursuant to State laws, may, The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment, -under sue:h rule.· and regulations as the legislature of the State ordered to be engros. ed for a third reading, reau the third time, shall prescribe, be exchanged for other Ia~ds of like character and approximately of equal value, in private ownership, to the and passed. end that the State may acquire holdings in reasonably compact CHARLES R. POWELL. form and reforesting be undertaken in an economic manner, any The Seriate, as in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to c~m thing in t!1e ennbling act of the State to the contrary notwith sider the -bill (H. R. 1459) for the relief of Charles R. Powell. standing. It directs the Secretary of the Interior to sell to Charles R_. The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment, Powell within a period of 90 days from and after the passage ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read the third time, 1>f the ~ct at the original purchase price, the southwest quaiter and passed. of section' 35, township 2 south, range 13 west, Indian meridian, Cotton County, Okla., and issue to him a patent therefor. STREET EXTENSION 'l'HROUGH WALTER REED HOSPITAL GROUNDS. The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment, The Senate,· as•in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to con ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read the third sider the bill ( S. 2411) to vacate certain streets and alleys time, and passed. within the area known as the Walter Reed General Hospital, J. D. CALHOUN. District of Columbia, and to authorize the extension and The Senate, as in Committee of the ·whole, proceeded to con widening of Fourteenth Sh·eet from Montague Street to its sider the bill (H. R. 2865) authorizing the Secretary of the southern terminus south of Dahlia Street, Nicholson Street from Interior to sell and patent to J. D. Calhoun, of Lincoln Parish, Thirteenth Street to Sixteenth Street, Colorado Avenue from La., certain lands, which was read, as follows: Montague Street to 'l'hirteenth Street, Concord Avenue from Be it enacted, etc., That the Secretary of the Interior be, antl he is Sixteenth Street to its western terminus west of Eighth Street hereby, authorized to sell and patent to J. D. Calhoun, of J;.incoln Parish, La., the northwest quarter of th~ southwest quar~er sectl~n 34, west, Thirteenth Street from Nicholson Street to Piney Branch township 19 north, range 2 west, Louls1ana meridian, s1tuated 1n the Road, and Piney Branch Road from Thirteenth Street to Blair parish of Lincoln, State of Louisiana, at not less than $1.25 per acre, Road, and for other purposes, which was read as follows: land which he and his grantors have occupied under claim and color of title and of which they have had tbe actual possession, beneficial Be it enacted, etc., That in order to provide for the necessary exten use and enjoyment, believing themselves to be owners in good faith for sions and additional buildings to be ereeted at the Walter Reed mo;e than 30 years: Prot,ided, That application for the purchase of the General Hospital, in the District of Columbia, all public streets, ex described tract of land under this authorization be filed at the United cept J.;'ourteenth Street, and alleys included within the area bounded States land office at Baton Rouge, La., within 90 days after the passage by Sixteenth Street on the west, Alaska Avenue on the northwest, Fern of this act and· that no adverse claim thereto be officially of record Street on the north, Georgia Avenue on the east, and Aspen Street, as platted on the official survey map, on the south, be, and the same as pending 'when the application is allowed and the sale consummated: hereby are, vacated, abandoned, and closed, the portions of public Provided further, That the entry which may be made and the patent streets within said area which are here.by abandoned and closed by issued under the prov~ions of th1s act shn;ll be subject to and .contain. a tbh; act being known as Thirteenth Street, Fifteenth Street, Dahlia reservation to the Uruted States of all 011, gaS, and other mmerals 1n Street, Dogwood Street, and Elder Street. the land so entered and patented and with the right to prospect for, SEC. 2. '.rhat under and in accordance with the provisions of sub mine, and remove same. chapter 1 of chapter 15 of the Code of Law for the District of Columbia, The bill was -reported to the Senate without amendment, the Commissioners of the District of Columbia be, ariel they are hereby, ordered to a third reading, read the third time, and passed. authorized and directed to institute in the Supreme Court of the Dis trict of Columbia a proceeding in rem to condemn the land that may WIDOW AND HEIRS OF JOSEPH E'l'IER. be necessary· for the extension and widening of Fourteenth Street from Montague Street to tbe southern boundary of the Walter Reed General The Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to con Hospital grounds, Nicholson Street from '.rhirteenth Street to Sixteenth sider the bill (H. R. 7290) to confirm private land claim of the Street, Colorado Avenue from · Montague Street to Thirteenth Street, widow and heirs of Joseph Etier, which was read, as follows: Concord Avenue from Sixteenth Street to its western terminus west of Eighth Street west. Thirteenth Street from Nicholson Street to Piney Be it enacted, etc., That the private land claim of the widow and Branch Road, and Pine:v Branch Road from Thirteenth Street to Blair heirs of Joseph Etier, No. 243, clas.s G, in the report dated Decem Road all in accordance with the plan of the permanent system of ber 30 1815 of the register and receiver at Opelousas, La., acting as bigh,vays for the Distl"ict of Columbia : Provided, hotceve1·, That of the comlll1Ssioners on land claims in the western district of the State of amount found to be due and awarded by the jury in said proceedings Louisiana, which has been surveyed and segregated as section 40, town as damages for, and in respect of, the land to be condemned for said ship 13 north, range 4 east, Louisiana meridian, containing 668.77 extensions or widening, plus the costs and expenses of the proceedings acres, shall be, and the same is hereby, confirmed, and the Secretary of hereunder, four-tenths shall be assessed against the property which the Interior shall cause patent to issue for said land to the widow and the jury shall find to be benefited. heirs of Joseph Etier, their heirs, assigns, or legal repr_esentatives: SEC. 3. That when Fourteenth Street shall be opened for traffic to Provided, That this act, and the patent which may be issued in pur the south boundary of the pl'operty known as the Walter Reed General suance of the same, shall only operate as a relinquishment on the part Hospital grounds, numbered for purposes of assessment and taxation • of the United States. and shall in no way prejudice any yalid adverse as parcel 89 sub 7, the control and jurisdiction of that part of Four right, if-such exist, to the said land; the intent b~ng that title shall teenth Street as laid down on the plan of the permanent system of inure to the true owners of the land under the laws of Louisiana.,-in highways of the District of Columbia which lies within the said hos cluding the laws of prescription, in the absence of any interest or estate pital grounds, shall immediately pass to the. Commissioners of" the of the United States. District of Columbia, the same in all respects as other streets and -ave nues in the District of Columbia : Provided, That the grade of the The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment, street through the hospital grounds shall be subject to the appr:oval ordered to a third reading, read the third time, and passed. of the Secretary of Wat·. -· •••.f LXII-- !1!) 1566 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. J.ANUA.RY SEc. 4. That all amount sufficient to pay the necessary costs u.nd ex temporarily withdrawn from settlement, location sale or entry in pt-nses of the condemnation proceedings taken pursuant hereto, an~ for order to adjust claims of patentees against the' United States and tiJe pa~~ment of the amounts awarded as damafes, is hereby authqrmed. .among: themselves arising from alleged incomplete or erroneous sur rraxable out of the revenues of the District o Columbia; the amounts veys, IS hereby granted preferential right at any time within 30 days coilected as benefits to be covered into the Treasury of the United after the Pa$&age of this act and the filing of the plu.ts of a corrected ~tates to the credit of the re>enues of the District of Columbia. survey of said lands in the United States .land office at Little Roek," The bill was reported to ~the Senate without amendment, Ark., to purchase said lands ot ·the United States of .America, and t(} pay for the same at the rate of $1.25 per acre, and said purchase shall ordere The Senate, a in Committee of the W.hole, proceeued. to con FORT SEWELL MILITARY RESERVATION, MA.~S. ·.·ider tbe bill (H. R. 244) to provide for the disposition of abandoned portions of rights of way granted to railroad com T_he Senate, us in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to con Itauies ,,·llich had been reported from the Committee on Public sider the bill ( S. 2736) providing for the conveyance tq the town L1mll and Surveys with amendments, on page 2, line 11, after of Marblehead, in the State of 1\Ias achusetts, of Fort Sew.ell .the word ' of " to strike out " said patent' and to insert " the Military Reservation for public ·u e, which had been reported vatent thereto"; and in line 16, after the word "may," to insert from the Committee on :Military Affairs with un amendment. the w.ords " hereafter and before such forfeiture or abandon Mr.' KING. Mr. President, some objection was made the .ment," . ·o as to l)lake the bill read : other· day by a number of· Senators when it was proposed. to , Be it enacted, etc., That "-henever public lands of the United States grant _to the State of Florida. a certain abandoned military res ha"fe been or may be granted to any railroad company for use as a ervation, and a number of Senators stated that if it was the rio·ht of way for its railroad or as sites for railroad ·structures of any purpose of the GoYernrnent to part with the title to unused - ~i~al and use and occupancy of said lands for such purposes has military reser\·ations they_would insist that similar grants. be cea ·ed or shall hereafter cease, whether by forfeiture or by abandqn rucnt by said. railroad company declared or decreed by a court of !!Om made to all the States, whereas other Senators took the view petent jurisdiction or by act of Congress, then and thereupon all right, that the Government had paid large ·sums for most of the -lands titLe., interest, und estate of the United States in said lands .shall, <'xcept -such {!art thereof as may be embraced in a public highway which it bad acqnil'ed and that it ought not be giving such lands terrally established within one year -after the date of said decree or away, but that it ought to sell them and cover into the Tr~asury fo~feiture or abandonment be transferred to and vested in any person, as large an amount as was possible to be derived f-rom the sale firm or corporation, assigns, or successors in title and interest to whom or to which title of the United States may have been or may of those lands. 1\Iay I ask tbe Senator from New YQrk [l\fr. ·IJe !!ranted, conveying or purporting to convey th~ whole of the legal WADSWORTH] whether or not the 1\lilitary Affairs Committee ubdivision or subdivisions traversed or occupied by such railroad or purposes to adopt a policy by which all these abandoned mili railroad :structures of any kind as aforesaid, except lands within a IIUlllicipalitv the title to whieb, upon forfeiture or abandonment, as tary reservations are to be given away or are we to sell them herein pro~ided, shall vest in such municipality, and this by ,·irtue of and to cover back into the Treasury as large a sum as we can -the patent thereto and without the neces ity of any other or further possibly obtain from .such sa1es? conveyance or a urance of any h.-ind or natu1·o what oever : Pt·ovidca, That this act shall not affect conveyance made by any rafu·oad com· :Mr. WADSWORTH. 1\Ir. President, the Military Affairs puny of portions or its right of way if such conyeya.nce b~ among those Committee has not attempted to adopt any policy in tb1s re 'vbkh have been or may hereafter and before such forfeiture or u.ban spect. This is a rather unusual situation. Perhaps it will ill rdunment be -validated and confirmed by any act" of C 1922. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 156-7 That the Secretary of War be, and hereby is, authorized and The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment,· or directed to convey, by quitclaim deed, to the city of Salem, in the Stballte dered to be engrossed for a third reading, read the third time, of Massachusetts for perpetual use as a public park or other pu c use all the proprietary right, title, and interest of the United States and passed. to and in those cet·tain tracts of land, .together with all structures. and BILLS PASSED OVER. improvements thereon, owned by the United States, embraced Within the military reservation known as Fort Pickering, situated at Salem, The bill (S. 1456) for the relief of Col. Herbert Deakyne, in Essex County, in the State of Massachusetts; including a tract on Corps of Engineers, United States Army, was announced as Hospital Point and a portion of Winter Island, in the harbor, and con next in order. taining an aggregate area of approximately 32 acres. Mr. KING. I ask that that bill go over until I may have So as to make the bill read : an opportunity to examine it. Be it enacted etc., That the Secretary of War be, and hereby is, au The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. thorized and directed to convey, by ·· quitclaim deed, to the town of Marblehead in the State of Massachusetts, for perpetual use as a public The bill ( S. 2493) to relieve enlisted men affected thereby park or other public use, all the proprietar~ right, title, and interest from certain hardship incident to the operation of the pro of the United States to and in that certam tract of land, toge~er viso of section 4b of the national defense act of June 3, 1916, with all structures and improvements thereon, owned by the Umted States embraced within the military reservation known as Fort Sewall, as amended by the act of June 4, 1920, and to protect disbursing situated at the west entrance to Marblehead Harbor, in the State of officers in connection therewith, was announced as next in Massachusetts, and containing approximately 2?1 acres: Pt·omded, l!OW order. evet·, That the town of Marblehead shall not have the right to sell or convey aforesaid property nor to devote the same to any other than a Mr. SMOOT. I ask that the bill go over. public use · and in the event the said property shall not be used as The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill w·ill be passed over. above provided the right, title. and interest hereby authorized to be conveyed shall revert to the United States. COLLEGE OF WILLIAM Al~D MARY, VIRGINIA. That the Secretary of War be and hereby is, authorized and directed to convey, by quitclaim deed, to the city of Salem, in the State The bill (S. 2173) to loan to the College of 'Villiam and Mary of Massachusetts, for perpetual use as a public park or other public in Virginia two of the cannon surrendered by the British at use all the proprietary right, title, and interest of the United State.<~ Yorktown on October 19, 1781, was considered as in Commit to and in that certain tract of land, together with all structures and tee of the Whole. impl'ovements thereon, owned by the United. States, embraced_ wit~n the military reservation known as Fort Lee, sttuated on Salem !Seck, m The bill had been reported from the Committee on Military Essex County, in the State of Massachusetts, and containing approxi- Affairs with amendments on page 2, line 7, after the name 2 ma.:ft1:it t~eacs~~retary of War be, and hereby is, authorized and "Virginia," to strike out "together with proper mounts, the dit·ected to convey, by quitclaim deed, to the city of Salem, in the Sta~e same " ; in line 8, after the word " college," to strike out of Massachusetts, for perpetual use as a public park or other public " subjbect " and insert " subject " ; and in line 9, after the word use, aJI the proprietary right, title, and interest of the United States "Pro'Vided, to and in those certain tracts of land, together with all structmes and "act,·• to insert That the Vvar Department shall not improvements thereon, owned by the Unfted States, embraced within the incur any expense because of the transfer of the cannon author military reservation known as Fort Pickerin~. situateii at Salem, in ized herein," so as to make the bill read: Essex County, in the State of Massachusetts, including a tract on Hos· Be 1t enacted, etc., That the Secretary of War be, and he is hereby, pital Point and a portion of Winter lsland,_jn the harbor, and contain directed to loan to the said College of William and Mary in Virginia ing an aggregate area of approximately 32 act·es. two of those cannon surrendered by the British at Yorktown on Octo The amendment was agreed to. ber 19, 1781, which are now at Old Point Comfort, Va., to be held The bill was reported to the Senate as amended and the by said college subject to the l'ight of Con,!rress at any time to amend ot· repeal this act: Prot:icled, That the War Department shall not amendment was concurred in. · incur nny expense because of the transfer of the cannon authorized The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a thinl reading, herein. read the third time, and passed. The amendments were agreed to. The title was amended so as to read : "A bill providing for The bill was reported to the Senate as arn€'nded and the the conveyance of certain unused military reservations in the amendments were concurred in. State of Massachusetts to the city Qf Salem and the town of The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, Marblehead." read the third time, and passed. BILLS PASSED OVER. The preamble was rejected. The bill (S. 140) for the relief of Peter Shell was announced RETIREMENT 0}' DISTRICT SCHOOL TEACHERS. as next in order. The bill ( S. 2589) to amend section 11 of the act entitled Mr. KING. I ask that tllat bill go over. "An act for the retirement of public-school teachers in the Dis The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. trict of Columbia," approved January 15, 1920, was announced The bill (S. 2498) to correct the military record of Alonzo C. as next in on1er. Shekell was announced as next in order. 1\Ir. KING. 1\Ir. President, I have asked for certain informa Mr. KING. I ask that that bill.go over. tion as to the effect of this measure and whether it would con The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. stitnt€' a preceuent under whicll many others separated from the service of the GoYernment before retirement laws were JUDICIAL DISTRIC'l'S I~ WEST VlRGINI:\. passed would be entitled to pensions. On its face it is a meri The bill ( S. 2810) to amend and reenact section 113 of chap torious bill and llas m:r sympathy; but if it would constitute ter 5 of the Judicial Code of the United States, as amended and a precedent that would cost the Government hundreds of reenacted by an act approved the 2~d of Augu t, 1914, was con thousands of uollars of additional expense and place upon the sidered as in Committee of the Whole. retirement list thousands of others who have separated them The bill was read, as follows: selves from the Government service, I can see au objection, · Be it enactefb etc., That section 113 of chapter 5 of the Judicial Code not to the bill itself but because of the precedent which it of the United ;:,tates, as amended by the act approved August 22, 1914, would establish. When I obtain that information I shall be be further amended and reenacted so the sa.me shall read as follows : "SEc. 113. The State of West Virginia is divided into two districts, glad to impart it to the Senate, but in the meantime I shall to be known as the northern and southern districts of West Virginia. ask thnt the bill go over. The northern district shall include the territory embraced on the 1st The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. day of July, 1910, in the counties of Hancock, Brooke, Ohio, Marshall. Tyler Pleasants, Wood, Wirt, Ritchie, Doddridge, Wetzel, Monongalia, LAND IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.. Marion, Harrison. Lewis, Gilmer, Calhoun, Upshur, Barbour. Taylor, Prt>ston, Tucker. Randolph, Pendleton, Hardy, Grant, Mineral, Hamp The bill (S. 2616) to empower the Commissioner of the Dis shire, Morgan, Berkeley, and Jefferson, with the waters thereof. The trict of Columbia to-conY~Y certain land wa considered as in terms of the district court for the northern district shall be held at Committee of the Whole. Martinsburg on the first Tuesday in April and the third Tuesday in September; at Clarks.burg on the second Tue day in April and the first The bill had been reported from the Committee on tile Dis Tuesday in October; at Wheeling on the first Tuesday in May and the trict of Columbia with amendments on page 1, line 4, after the third Tuesday in October; at Elkins on the third '.rue day in June and words "con>ey to the" to strike out "Sanitary Grocery Co., the third Tuesday in November; at Parkersburg on the second Tuesday tn January and the fourth Tuesday in May. a bod~· corporate under the laws of the State of Virginia,!' and " The southern district shall include the territory embraced on the insert " owners of tlle abutting. property; " anu on page 2, line 1, 1st day of July, 1910, in the counties of Jackson, Roane, Clay, Braxton, aft<2r the word ... than " to strike out " the a ·se sed value of the Webster, Nichola::;, Pocahontas, Greenbrier, Fayette, Boone, Kanawha, Putnam, Mason, Cabell, Wayne, Lir.coln, Logan, Mingo. Raleigh, Wyo· contiguous private property," and insert "$1.50 per .-quare ruing, McDowell, Mercer, Summers, and Monroe, with the waters foot"; so a to make the bill read: thereof. The terms of the district court for the southern district shall Be it c.11acte.d, etc., That the Commissioners of the District of Colum be held at Charleston on the third Tuesday in April and the third bia be, and they are het·eby, authorized to convey to the owners of the Tuesday in November; at Huntington on the first Tuesday in March abutting property, the land contained in the bed of Seaton Place and and the third Tuesday in September; at Bluefield on the first Tuesday 1n the bed of S Street east of Fourth Street NE., and extending in January and the third Tuesday in June; at Williamson on the first to the line of the Metropolitan branch of the Baltimore & Ohio Tuesday in February; at Webster Springs on the fourth Tuesday in Railroad Co., in the city of Washington, D. C., upon the payment • August; at Lewisburg on the first Tuesday in July: Provided, That a therefor to the District of Columbia of an amount not less than place for holding court at Webster Springs and Lewisburg- shall be fur $1.50 per square foot, the amount so paid to be deposited in the nished free of cost to the United States: Pro1:ided turthe1·, That a place Treasury of the United States to the credit of the revenues of the for holding court at Williamson shall be furnished free of cost to the District of Columbia. United States by Mingo County until other provision is made therefor by law.'' The amendments were agreed to. 1"568 OONGR.ESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. JANUARY 23, The bill was reported to the Senate as amended, and the Mr. KING. I ask that that bill go oYer. amendments were concurred in. Mr. JONES of Washington. Mr. President-- The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a thi~d reading,. 1\lr. KING. I withdraw the objection. read the third time, and passed. 1\fr. JONES of Washington. I merely want to say that when METHOD OF CAPITAL PUNISR1.IENT IN THE DISTRICT. this measure came up once before on tlte calendar on the · uO' gestion of the Senator from Utah it was referred back to the The bill (S. 1074) to prescribe the method of capital punish committee, where additional hearings were held and the amend ment in the District of Columbia, was announced as' next in ment, which as I understood was suggested by him, was put in order. the bill. It is embodied in section 2, which reads: l\Ir. KING. I ask that that bill go over. That 9ongress reserves the right to alter, amend, or repeal thi.. act 1\Ir. DIAL. Mr. President, I hope my friend from Utah will at any time. not object to that bill. It passed the Senate a year or twa ago, but failed of passage in the Rouse. It comes from the The effect of the bill is simply to extend in a sUght degree Committee on the District of Columbia .with a unanimous report ! do not remember exactly the items-the scope of the pov1•ers and has been recommended by the District Commissioners. of the Potomac Insurance Co. so that they may write additional ::\Ir. KING. I shall not object to the bill, but shall vote insurance. against it. I should like to have the Senator explain it briefly. lllr. KING. ·May I inquire of the Senator whether by reason Mr. DIAL. The bill is designed merely to change the form of extending the scope of the powers of the insurance company of capital punishment in the District of Columbia from hang and permitting it to insure against casualties of a nature differ ing to electrocution. In that way it makes the punishment a ent from those which it has been permitted to insure against little milder. in the past it will be required to maintain additional reser\es? The PRESIDING OFF-JCER. Is there objection to the pres Mr. JOl-.TES of Washington. There is nothing in the bill that ent consideration of the bill? requires that to be done. Unless there is some provision of the There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the general law enforcing such a requirement it would not be done 'Vhole, proceeded ·to consider the bill, which was read as fol under this bill. l do not know as to that. I will say to the lows: Senator that I was not present at the meeting of the commit Be it e1tacted, etc., That on and after the 1st llay of January, 1922, tee when this bill was ordered reported, as I was unable to be 1he mode -of capital punishment in the District ot Columbia shall be by there. the process commonly known as electrocution. The punishment of l\1r. KING. The Senator has in mind the fact that certain death shall be inflicted by causing to pass through the body ot the con\'ict u current o.f electricity ot sufficient intensity to cause death, reser\es are pro})erly required, and they depend upon the char and the application of such current shall be continued until such con acter of policy. which may be written. If the line of insurance c Yict is dead. is limited, for instance, to burglar insurance or to plate-glass SEC. 2. 'l'hat the Commissioners of the Distriu.. of Columbia are au thorized and required, on the approval of this act by the President, to insurance a very small reserve might be required, whereas if provide a ueath chamber and necessary apparatus for inflicting the the company were allowed to write general insura:r:ce against death penalty by electrocution. to pay the cost thereof out of any fund available and not otherwise appropriated, to designate an execu all kinds of casualties a larger reserve should be required. I tioner and necessary assistants, not exceeding three in number, and to am not familiar with the charter of the company-- fix the fees thereof for services, which shall be paid out of any funds lllr. JONES of Washington. Nor am I. available and not otherwise appropriated. SEc. 3. 'l'hat upon the conviction of any person in the District of Mr. KING. Or with the general law, but I assume that, if Columbia of a crime the punishment of which is death, it shall be the they are required, additional reserves will be provided. duty of the presiding judge to sentence such convicted person to death 1\!r. JONES of Washington. I assume that to be so. This bill accoriling to the terms of this act, and to make such sentence in writ ing which shall be filed with the papers in the case against such con has the indorsement of the Commissioners of the District of victed person, and a certified copy thereof shall be transmitted, by the Columbia, and, as I ha\e said, on the second consideration of clerk of the court in which such sentence is pronounced, to the super the matter by the committee they were satisfied regarding its intendent of the District Jail, not less than 10 days prior to the time fixed in the sentence of the court for the execution of the same provisions, although as I have indicated I was not present at SEc. 4. That at the execution of the death penalty as herein pre that meeting. . crlb.ed there shall be present the following persons, and no more, 1\Ir. KING. As it is a Senate bill, of course, it has not pa ed to w1t: The executioner and his assistants ; the physician of the prison and the House. one other physician if the condemned person so desires ; the condemned Mr. JONES or' Washington. It is a Senate bill. per on's counsel and relatives, not exceeding three, i.f they so desire; Mr. KING. I shall not object to the ·present consideration the prison chaplain and such other ministers of the Gospel, not ex ceeding two, as may attend by desire of the condemneu ; the superin of the bill. Undoubtedly the point which I have in mind will be tendent of the prison, or, in the event of his disability, a deputy desi"' called attention to, and, if ample provision has 'not been made, nated by him ; and not fewer than three nor more than five respectabie I am sure the House will make such provision. citizens who~ the sup~rintendent of the prison shall designate, and. if nece sary to ID!3ure therr attend3;nce, shall subprena to be present. The Mr. JO:NES of Wa hington. I think the Senator is safe in fact of execution shall be certified by the pTison physician and the that assumption. executioner to the clerk of the court in which sentence was pronounced The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection to the pre - which certificate shall be .filed by the clerk with the papers in the case. ent consideration of the bill? SEC. 5. That all act or part ot act ~ incon istent with this act ure There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the het·eby repealed. Whole, proceeded to consider the bill, which had been reported ::.\.1r: DIAL. I move to ame~d the bill on page 1, line 3, by from the Committee on the District of Columbia with an amend stnking out "January" and mserting "June." The 1st day ment on page 3, after line 6, to insert a new section as follows: of January, specified in the bill as the date on 'vhich the new SEc. 2. That Congress reserves the right to alter, amend, or repeal method of capital punishment shall take effect, has already this act at any time. pas eel. Under the amendment the bill will begin to take effect on the 1st of June next. So as to make the bill read : The PRESIDING OFFICER. The amendment will be stated. Be it enacted, etc., That the act entitled "An act to incorporate a fire insurance company in Georgetown, in the District of Columbia," ap The READIXG CLERK. On page 1, line 3, after the word " of " proved the 2d of March, 1831, and the act entitled ".An act to amend it is proposed to strike out "January" and insert "June," ~o the charter of the Potomac Fire Insurance Co. of Georgetown," approved as to read "the 1st day of June, 1922." the 3d of March, 1837, and the act entitled "An act to renew and con tinue in force the charter of the Potomac Insurance Co. of Georgetown, The amendment was agreed to. District of Columbia," approved the 25th of March, 1870, and the act Air. OVERMAN. I did not hear the bill read, and I should entitled "An act to change the name of the Potomac Insurance Co. of like to inquire of the Senator from South Carolina what is its Georgetown, and for other purposes," approved the lOth day of March, 1900, be, and the same are hereby, amended so as to grant to the purpo e? Potomac Insurance Co. of the District of Columbia, in addition to the Mr. DIAL. It is to change the method of inflicting capital powers, privileges, and immunities granted to. the said company in and punishment in the District of Columbia from hanging to elec by its original act of incorporation, as amended, full power and au thority to make insurances against lightning, windstorm, tornado, trocution. cyclone, earthquake, hail, trost or snow, civil riot and commmotion, The PRESIDING OFFICER. The que tion is on agreeing to and by explosion, .whether fire ensues or not (except upon steam boilers the amendment offered by the Senator from South Carolina. and pipes, fiywheels, engines and machinery, connected therewith or operated thereby, against explosion and accident, and except against The amendment was agreed to. · loss or damage to life or property resulting therefrom, and except The bill was reported to the Senate as amended, and the against loss of use and occupancy caused thereby); and also against amendment was concurred in. loss or damage by water to any goods or premises arising from the breakage or Ieaka.ge of sprinklers, pumps, or other apparatus erected The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read for extinguishing fires, and of water pipes, and against accideJltal in the third time, and passed . jury to such sprinklers, pumps, or other apparatus; also insurances • upon automobiles, whether stationary or being operated under their POTOMAC TI;SUR.A..!."''I'CE CO. own power, which shall include all or any of •the hazards of fire, ex The bill ( S. 1312) to amend the charter of the Potomac In plosion, transportation, collision, loss by legal liability for damage to or resulting from the maintenance and use of automobiles, and loss by surance Co. of the District of Columbia was announced as next burglary or theft, or both, but shall not include loss by reason of bodily in order. injury to the person ; and to effect reinsurances of any risks taken by 1922. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. it· ami the said company shall have full power and authority to ma.ke KRISTINA FURJAK. and effect nny and all of the above-described insurances and rein· The bill (S. 160) for the relief of Kristina Furjak \\"as con su~~~es2. That Congress reserves the right to alter, amend, or repeal sidered as in Committee of the Whole, and was read, as follows : this net at any time. Be it enacted, etc., That the Secretary of the Treasury be, and he is The amendment was agreed to. hereby, authorized and directed to :pay to Kristina Furjak, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwlSe appropriated, the sum of $495, Tile bill was reported to the Senate as amended and the being the amount depos1ted with the Commissioner of Immigration at amendment was concurred in. Ellis Island for safe-keeping pending determination ot her right to The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read enter the United States, said ~um having disappearEd from the safe and all efforts made to determine the responsibility for the loss having the third time, and pa~sed. proved unsuccessful. DILL PASSED OVER. Mr. SMOOT. Mr. President, I am not going to object to the The b-ill (H. R. 8762) to create a commission authorized consideration of this bill ; but I do think the time is about here, under certain conditions to refund or convert obligations of if not already here and past, when the QQvernment ought to foreign Governments owing to the United States of America, require a bond whenever money is handled by employees of the and for other purposes, was announced as next in order. GOvernment. · There is hardly a time when the calendar is 1\Ir. SMOOT. That bill is the unfinished business. I ask that called, either in the House or in the Senate, when the Govern it may go over. ment of the United States is not asked to pay money on account The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. of thefts that have occurred or in many cases we do not know how the money disappeared. WATER ON NATIONAL FQREST LANDS IN ARIZONA. 1\lr. WALSH of Montana. Mr. President, I notice, too, the The bill ( S. 386) authorizing a right Qf way for the trans extraordinary number of these cases for the relief of immigra portation of water for improvement of grazing and develop tion officers to whom money belonging to immigrants is in ment of the live-stock industry upon public and national forest trusted. It is extraordinary to me that money should be taken lands in .Arizona was considered as in Committee of the Whole. from these immigrants and put into the hands of perfectly irre The bill was read, as follows : sponsible persons. Be it enacted, etc., Tliat, subject to the approval of the Secretary of Mr. KING. The same thing happens in our hospitals, too. the Interior, as lli!reinafter provided, there are hereby granted to any Mr. SMOOT. Not only that, but I think tpe Treasury De firm, citizen. association of citizelli!, or c.orporation of the U11ited States partment ought to issue an order that no official shall reeeh-e enga~ed in the live-stock industry in the State of Arizona, easements and rights of way in and over national forests, public lands, and reser money from an immigrant for safe-keeping and the Government vations of the United States, surveyed or unsurveyed, in said State of of the United States be responsible for it ; or, if they are going Arizona for reservoirs, canals, pipe lines, flumes, tunnels, or other water conduits and waterworks and appurtenances, for the purpose of to be responsible for it, I want the Treasury Department to take furnishing water to live stock and for other beneficial purposes con a bond or secure a bond in some way. nected with the live-stock industry. Upon the filing by the grantee of Mr. WALSH of Montana. Of course, the Senator realizes map· and other pertinent data showing the location and character of such easements and rights of way, and the approval thereof by the that it would be a wrong that none of us could justify that said S.ecretar:r, all lands, whether SUI'veyed or unsurveyed, in or over the Government of the United States should not be responsible which such easements and rights .of way shall extend. shall be disposed to the immigrant, who is practically obliged to intrust the of subject to such easements and rights of way : Pt·ovided, That said approval of the Secretary of the Interior shall n-ot be given within or money to the Government officials. tlu:ough any national forest except with the approval of the Secretary .Mr. SMOOT. I say that I am not going to object to the con of Agriculture and under such conditions and stipulations as the latter sideration of this bill, but cases of this kind are getting so may require for the fullest ublization and proper administration of the national forest, and such approval may be withheld whenever in the numerous, and not only that but other claims for all manner of opinion of the Secretary of Agriculture it would not be for the best losses are coming here to such an extent that there ought to be interests of the national forests. Said maps may be filed in such sec an oyerhauling of the whole practice. tions and at such times as the Secretary of the Interior may permit or require. 1\Ir. WALSH of Montana. I wonder if some one responsible SEC. 2. That the grant herein· authorized shall be upon the express for this bill, or the chairman of the Committee on Immigration, condition that from and after a date to be fixed by the Secretary of the Interior :md not exceeding 50 years from the date of approval of the can not give us some information about bow it comes about Secretary of the Interior the United States shall have the right to take that money is taken from the poor immigrants here, a little over the easements and rights of way herein granted and any other matter of $50 or $75, or in this case a poor woman gives up property of grantee dependent in whole or in part for its usefulness $400 to an officer, and then it disappears. upon such easements and rights of way, and upon condition that it shall pay, before taking possession, the reasonable value of all property Mr. SMOOT. I will ask the Senator from Missouri [l\Ir. taken over, including structures and fixtures acquired, erected, or SPENCER], who introduced the bill, if he knows anything about placed upon the lands and included in the water plant, such reasonable value to be determinecl by the Secretary of the Interior : Provided, the details. That such reasonable value shall not include or be construed to mean Mr. SPENCER. I know all the facts ~bout thi case. Here or be affected by the value of the franchise, good will, or profits to be was an immigrant woman who came over here with approxi earned on pending contracts or any other intangible element. mately $495. That was all she had in the world. When she "EC. 3. That all or any part of such rights of way shall be forfeited and annulled by the Secretru:y of the Interior upon proper finding by came to Ellis Island she intrusted that money to the officials the head of the department having jurisdiction over the land, or failure of the United States. The department report to us that what to complete construction within five years or for nonuse for a period of two years. became of that money they do not know, but that they lost it. SEc. 4. That the Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized to The bill is one which was draWll in the Department of Labor perform any and all n.cts and to make such rules and regulations, not and sent down here by Secretary Wilson when he was Secre inconsistent wUh this act, as may be necessary and proper for carrying its provisions into full force and effect. tary of Labor. Mr. WALSH of Montana. I will say to the Senator from The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment, or Missouri that I take it no one has any reason to complain about dered to be engrossed for a third reading, read the thircl time, the reimbursement of the poor woman who intrusted her money and passed. to these officers. What we are interested in knowing is how BII.LS PASSED OVER. such a thing could happen, and what provision of law there is The bill (S. 12D7) for the relief of George Van Derburgh that will insure that it shall not happen again. I call the Brown was announced as next in order. attention of the Senator from Missouri to a fact which has Mr. KING. Let that go over until I ha\e a chance to examine struck me heretofore--that there is scarcely a call of the cal the report. - endar when there is not a bill here to reimburse some immigmnt The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. whose money has thus been appropriated and disappeared. The bill (S. 103) for the relief of Mo1·gan Miller was an 1\Ir. SPENCER. I quite agree that there ought to be general nounced as next in order. legislation that will do just what the Senator from Utah indi 1\ir. KING. Let that go over until the next time the calendar cates, and that is to require every Government employee at_ is called. Ellis Island and elsewhere who handles money to be under 'l~he PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. bond; but that is a matter for general legislation, which ought The bill (S. 2765) for the relief of the Fidelity & Deposit to be considered at another time, and not tacked on to an indi Co. of Maryland, Baltimore, 1\.fd., was announced as next in vidual bill. order. Mr. SMOOT. I am not suggesting it for that purpose; but Mr. KING. Let that go o•er. I have not had a chance to ex that woman must have known what official she ga\e that money amine the report. to, and there is not a word here to show what the result of the The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. investigation was. The money ought to ha\e been traced to The bill (H. R. 1362) for the relief of 1\L Fine & Sons was somebody. I can not see how it is possible that an official of announced as next in order. the Government receiving $495 from a woman could not give l\fr. KING. Let that go over. some account of it, at least, and where the money went as far The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. as he was concerned. 1570 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. JANUARY 23, l\fr. SPEXCER. :May I say to the Senator from Utah that The · bill was reported - to the Senate without amendment, here is exactly what happened: This woman was taken by the ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read the third time, watchman to the Trea ·urer's office. She put her money into the and passed. hands of the Treasurer and received certificate No. 7651 for the BILL PASSED OVER. money. When she carne back to get it the department were ab solutely unable to locate the envelope in which it was or to The bil~ (S. 2258) for the relief of Jesse L. Clay was an return to her the money for which they had given the official nounced as next in order. receipt. "' 1\Ir. W A.TSON of Georgia. Mr. President, these bills are 1\lr. SMOOT. In other words, somebody stole the money. I going through rapidly, and we do not understand what they think there are so very few officials that have access to the safe are. It seems to me the Senators who introduce the bills ought that the department ought to have found out something more to make some brief statements about them. about it, rather than to hasten down to Washington and ask the Mr. KING. I object to th~ consideration of this bill. Treasury of the United States to pay the amount. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill will be passed over. Mr. WALSH of Montana. It is encouraging the theft of these OWNER OF THE DERRICK "CAPITOL." fund& • The bill ( S. 1767) for the relief of the owner of the derrick 1\lr. S:UOOT. Certainly; there is not any doubt about that. Capitol w-as announced as next in order. Not only that, but it has gotten now so that whenever any Mr.. KING. :\Ir. President, I object to the consideration of officer, from the highest to the lowest, in the Navy or the A.rmy this bill. .If the Senator who introduced it will amend the bill loses an overcoat or a pair of shoe · or any part of his apparel, so that a court of admiralty may make findings and report, I or his wife loses her jewelry or perhaps her hat or anything shall have no objection; but I object to the bill as it stands, else the Go,emment of the United States has to pay for it. authorizing them to pronounce judgment. It 1\fr. WALSH of :!.\fontana. would be interesting to know if l\Ir. CALDER. ~lr. President, of course Congress must ap any employee of tile office in which the money was placed was propriate the money before the claim ~an be paid. I think the llismi;·sell or whether an investigation was had. · bill ' conforms to the tmiform practice followed in this body in Mr. Sl\JOOT. This woman is without the money and she is cases of this .Kind. In the case of this bill, an examination of entitled to it, hut I hope this is the last claim of the kind that the record will show clearly that the Navy tug which was we ''ill pay until tbere is a stricter account of it and until we towing this barge was responsible for the accident. The claim know more about how the money is lo. t. invol,es about $1,500. The Navy Department would have set l\lr. KING. Let me allcl that we ha\e appropriated during the tled it if it had had the right under the law, as the report from past month several sums to reimburse indi\iuuals who have lost the department clearly indicates. money, notwitl1~tandin g the War Department and the Navy l\Ir. S~\IOOT. Why did they not ba-ve the right? Department and the Post Office Department have recommended :\.Ir. CALDER. It is over $500. against it. That is to Ray, those departments have found negli Mr. KING. ~1y recollection is that objection has been gence, anll notwithstanding the negligence the Senate has passed made a number of times to referring these bills to the Court three bills that I remember within the past month or six weeks of Claims or to a court of admii'alty with authority to pro making appropriation. ; so that we haYe encouraged the loose nounce judgment. \Ve ha\e referred them to the courts in ne.. which bas pre....-ailed in many of the departments and have order that they might ascertain what the facts were and make gone over the beads of the departments in making appropria findings of fact and perhaps conclusions of law, and then upou tions when the heads of the departments have recommended those findings Congress could make such appropriations as against it. Congress i to blame largely for the presentation of they saw fit. the. e claims. We are encouraging them by the manner in which Mr. CALDER. I will say that the bills ha\e been passed we treat the negligence anu the felonies of persons i.l the Gov in both forms. They have been passed in this form, und also ernment employ. referring the claims to the Court of Claims for ilndings and The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill is before the Senate report to Congress. It is so appai'ent from the record in this as in Committee of the Whole and open to amendment. If the1·e case that the Government is responsible that it seems to me be no amendment to be 11roposell the bill will be reported to the only fair to tl1is concern that they should be permitted to go to Senate. court and sue, giYing the court t11e same right to render judg The bill was reported to the Senate without amenllment, or ment against them if they were in error. I think, if the Sena dered to be engrossed for a third reading, read the third time, tor will permit me, this is a very fair thing to do under the cir and pas. ed. · cumstances. ALASKA STEA~t:SHIP 00. 1\lr. SPENCER. ::.\fr. President, the fact of the matter is pre The hill ( S. 978) for the relief of the Alaska Steamship Co. cisely a th .:enator from Utah indicates. From time to time was considered as in Committee of the 'Vhole. objection has been made to bills which carried a judgment of The bill had been reported from the Committee on Claims the Court of Claims, !Jut I think the objection was made under a \Villi an amendment, on page 1, line 6, after the words "sum misapprehension of the custom of the Committee on Claims and of," to strike out ". 9,024.27" and insert "$5,974.27," so ns to the action both of the Senate and of the House. make the blll reall : · I had in m,~ uesk-I have just looked for it, but have not laid Be it enac ted, etc., That the Secretary of the Treasury be, and he is my hand: on ·it-a package of bills which haYe been pa sed since hereby, authorizetl to pay to the Alaska Steamship Co., a corporation I have been here by both the House and Senate, in each one of organized antl existing under the laws of the State of Nevada, the sum which the Court of Claims had ~·endered judgment. The judg of $5 974.27, in payment of the balance due said compll.ny for services rende~ed at the request of the United States deputy collector of customs ment of the Court of Claims is not self-enforcing. The judg at Unalaska, Alaska, and in pursuance of an agreement with him for ment of the Court of Claims can not- be collected ; there is no the transportation antl. care of 193 survivors of the wreck .of the Ameri power in the world to pay it unless Congre s approves of it and can . hip Columbia near Hcotch Cap Lighthouse, Alaska, in !\Iay, 1909. appropriates the money for its payment. Therefore the Com The amendment was agreed to. mittee on Claims always has recommended the passage of bills The bill was reported to the Senate as amended, and the in precisely the form of the bill introduced by the Senator from amendment was concurred in. New York. The bill was ordered to be engro~ ~ ed for a thinl reading, read :Mr. KING. Oongress feels, perhaps, a little higher obligation the third time, anu passed. to pay a judgment than to pay a recommendation. l\Ir. SPEXCER. No; the difficulty, I think, lies here: I as BILL PAS SED OVER. sume that there would not be any difficulty if the .Court of The bill ( S. G7) for the relief of the heirs of A1lam and ~oall Claims were instructed to make a finding of facts including the Bl·own was announced as next in order. amount which under the evidence the Court of Claims believed l\Ir. KL.."\'G. Let that go over. w·as due, because that finding of fact, including the amount 'l'l~e PRESIDIKG-OFFICER. The b_ill will be pas:ed over. which they belie\ed was due, would have precisely the same ELIZA-BETH MARSH W .ATKINS. moral effect as a judgment of the Court of Claims would have for any definite amount; but the difficulty has been that if that Tbe bill ( S. 841) for the relief of Eliza beth l\la rsb Watkins is not in the bill the Court of Claims are apt to make a finding was considered as in Committee of the Whole, and was read, as regarding the facts and say nothing about the amount that is follows: . actually due, and that leaves· Congress still in the dark. Be it enacted, eto., That the Secretru·y of the Trea ury be, and he is Mr. SMOOT. This, however, goes before the United States hereby, authorizetl and directed to pay, out of any money in the United District Com·t. ' States Treasury not otherwise appropriated, the ~'> Urn of $2,500, to com pensate Elizabeth Marsh Watkins, of Wakpala, S. Dale, for permanent ::\Ir. SPEXCER. '.rhe same thing would apply there. bodily injuries sustained by her on the 9th !lay of .:\'o>ember, 1908, at There being no objection, the bill was considered as in Com the Goyernment Inllian school at li'landreau, B. Dak. mittee of the 'Yhole. It had been reported from the Committee 1922. CO :r.GRESSIONAL RECORD-. SENATE. 1571 on Claims ·with nn amendment, to strike out a'll after 'the enact- · may be concluded, ;provided it does not take more than 5 or ing cla-use and to insert: 1.0 minutes. That -the claim of the ·owner of the denick •Capitol, arising out of ' The :PRESIDING -OFFICER. Is there objection? collision while in tow of the United States Navy tug No. so on .Aprll :S, 1\{r. McCUMBER. I ask that the unfinished business may be 1919, at Harlem River, N. Y., for and .on account .of the losaes alleged t ... .. 'l . · 'd ~ to llave been suffered in said collision by the owner of said derrick e~po_an 1Y a1d as1 e for that :purpose for not to exceed five Capital by reason of damages to said derrick, may be submitted to tlre mmutes. 1Jnitl;d States _District. Court for the Easte:rn Distri~ o.f New York under . The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair hears no objection and m compliance mth the rules of said court ·s1ttmg as a court of ' d th 'A~~.... b · · · · · · ' admiralty, and actin"' under the rules governing such court, and -said · an e ·unJ.J.J.J..U:jhed u:smess IS temporarily laid astde. court shall ha-ve jurfsdiction to hear ·and determine such suit a:nd to Mr. 'VALSH of Montana. In a case of the kind to which I enter judgment or decree for 'the a~ount of such damag~ and costs, if have referred where a lea-al0 liability arises if the facts found any, as shall be found to be due agamst the.United -states 1n :favor of the .· f . ' . ' owner of the said derrick Capitol or against the owner of .£aid derrick are. m avo.r of the clrumant, I can see no reason whatever for OapitoZ in favor of the United states, -and ·11pon the same principles and takmg the matter away from the court which can most appro measures cYf liability us in. like ·cases in atlm.U:a1ty 1between priva-te ; prh~tely determine whether a legal liability exists and trans- parties and with the same rights of aweai: Promaed, That such ·notice f · "t t ·c . ' of the suit shall be given to the Attorney General of the United States : errmg 1. to he ongress. That seems to be the case here. as may be provided by order of the said court, and it shall .be the duty , 1\Ir. KING. Let me say to the Senator that there has been o~ tl!e A-ttorney General to cause the United States .atto1:ney in such . a feelino- that judgments ought not to be rendered in the courts dJ.Sttict to appear and defend for the United States: Promded further, : o . , That said suit shall be brought and commenced within four months of · upon these clarms, but that the courts -should make then· finrl- the date of the passage of this act. ings and report what, in their opinion under the facts and Mr. WALSH of Montana. Mr. President, if the Senator will under the law, ought to be done. I have accepted that as a permit me, I can not sympathize with the _position taken by the standard to guide Congress in the determination of these cases. Senator from Utah with Tespect to these matters. He proposes, The PRESIDING OF'FICER. The question is on agreeing to as I understand, to empower the district court to make findings · the amendment of the committee. of fact, and upon those findings of fact the Congress then will · The amendment was agreed to. determine what the law is, and apply the law, and ,accordingly The bill was reported 1:o the Senate a amended and the gi"re the relief to the complainant or withhold it; or else it· amendment was concurred in. must be that he intends that the Congress shall determine, The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read even if the law and the facts are with ·the claimant, that com· : the third time, and passed. pen ation shall be withheld. REPORT OF THE NA!NONA.L .ACADEMY OF SCIENCES. I can not believe that the Senator from Utah intends that : the United States shall escape an obligation which is justly I The PRESIDING OFFICER (1\Ir. MosEs) laid before the due by it; and I submit to him that the question as to whether, · Senate a communication from the presldent of tbe National under the facts fotmd, the United States is .legally liable if it. Academy of Sciences, transJ;nitting, pursuant to law, the report were otherwise open to suit can be infinitely better .determined , of the academy for the last half of the fiscal year ended Jm~e by the district court and by the circuit court of appeals and by 30, 1921, which was referred to the Committee on the Library. the Supreme 'Court of the United States upon appeal than it , 4-DJUSTMENT OF FOREIGN LOANS. could ever be determined by the Congress of the United Stutes. , So I am utterly unable to understand the .contention that is ; The Senate, as In Oommittee of the Whole, proceeded to con made from time to time in these cases that the court should i ·Sider the bill (H. 'R. 8762,) to create a commission ·authorized determine the facts, but that the question .of the law which under certain conditions to refund or convert obligations of for should be applied to those facts should be determined by the · eign Governments owing to the United States of America, and Congress of the United States. · for other purposes, which had been reported from the ·Commit- 1\Ir. KING. If the Senator will _pardon me, the position · tee on Finance with · am~ndments. which has been taken by others-and .in "\Vhat I have said 1 1\Ir. 1\IcCUMBER obtamed the floor. haYe been merely echoing the statements .made by older Sena· 'Mr. SPENCER. Mr. P.resident, I suggest tile absence of a ,tors who have had many experiences with regard to these quorum. . matters-is that the procedure bas been to have a 1·eference The 'PRESIDING OFFICER. The Secretary wiU call tile of these matters to some -appropriate judicial tribunal, the Coul't roll. .of Claims or ..a court of admiralty, to ascertain the facts, and . The roll was called, and the following Senators answered to report the facts back to Congress. 1 would go further and not · their names : onJy have them ascertain the facts, but report the conclusions · Rail Harris Myers Smoot of law that inevitably must follow from the facts, and make Bornh Harrison Nelson Spencer Stanfield recommendations as to what. .in their judgment should be -done, ~i~~~::i3 IDf~cock - ~~~~~son Sterling and how mucb should be pa1d by the Government. The point Bursum J'ohnson Oddie Sutherland which has been made 'by Senators, however, was that fhey do · Calder J'ones,N. Mex. Overman To-wnsend 1 Trammell not want judgment rendeTed by the court, but prefer to have the '2a-pper J'ones, Wash. Owen Wadsworth recommendations of the a:pprOJ>riate tribunals not only with re- c~lli~!Kn "f:~ggg ~~f~ps Walsh, Mass. spect to the questions of fact, but with respect to the questions ·Ct;U'tis 'La Follette Poindexter Walsh, Mont. Warren o.f law, and then leave it to CongTess to make the appropria- Bmkgham ~~1er ~~:;g~d Watson, Ga. tlon. Fletcher McKellar Shields Watson, Ind. Mr. WALSH of Montana. The Senator will understand that I France McLean ·Shortridge Weller much depends upon the character of the claim. A. claim may . Gooding McNary Simmons Willis lie made with respect to a complicated state of facts, and ·even if : llar.reld Moses fimith the facts are admitted ·as contended by the claimant, yet no 1 "The PRESIDING OFFICER. Sixty-three Senators ha-Ye a:n legal liability would arise. Often we are appealed to in cases swered to their ·names. A quorum is present. to pass bills wbere no legal responsibility exists at all, but we I :Mr. l\IcOUMBER. Mr. President, on August 20, 1921, Sena.tor are appealed to upon moral grounds, asserting that i:here is .a Penrose, as chairman of the Comlnittee on Finance, reported moral responsibility in the matter. 'In a case of that kind we from that committee the bHI ( S. 2135) to enable the refunding can very readily leave the matter to the Court of Claims or of obliigations of foreign Governments ·owing to the United some other court to determine ·wnat the facts are. Then we 1 States of America, and for other purposes. That bill was dis would be -a-ppealed to where there is no legal liabllity whatever : cnssed for a considerable time, and probably all of the objec to make appro-pt·iation 'Ilotwithstanding there bemg what is tions that could be made were raised at that time. The bill claimed to be a moral obligation. 1 did not pass. But here is a case in which it is claimed that a vessel was In the meantime, to meet many of the objections that were destroyed by reason of a collision with a tug owned by the 1 raised, another bill was introduced in the House for the same Government of the United States. : -pm·pose, but containing many modifications. That bill, with The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator will suspend. some amendments, has been reported favorably by the present The hour -of 2 o'clock having arrived, the Ohair lays before the · enate Committee on Finance. Senate the unfinished business, w)l:ich will be stated. I think it _proper at this time to show the diffeTences betwee11 The READING CLEnx. A bill (H. 'R. 8762) to create a com- the previous bill, which was discussed in the Senate for. a c.on mis ion authorized tmder certain conditions to refund or con- siderable time, and the present bill. I think that much of the vert obligations of foreign Governments owing to the United . discussion on the old bill can be eliminated, because the _provi Sta~ "i America, and for other _purposes. , -sions upon which the discussion arose haYe been eliminated 1\Ir. d_-\.LD.ER. l\Ir. President, I ask unanimous consent that from the present measure. I shall, therefore, briefly designate the consideration of the ·bill which has been before the Sen·ate the principal differences between the two bills. , 1572 _CONGRESSION .A.L R-ECORD- SEN ATE. JANUARY 23, In tlle -first bill the entire matter of the settlement of the tinned for some time between the officers of the Treasury D~ f oreign debts was gb·en to the Secretary of the Treasury, with partment and other Governments, particularly the British GoY almost unlimited authority. - Serious objections were made to ernment, concerning the adjustment aml, we might say, the this on the ground. that no one man should be vested with such funding of these obligations? extensh·e authority in the settlements of debts amounting to Mr. McCUMBER. For a long time, according to my informa more than !j)lO,OOO,OOO,OOO. Equally earnest objections were tion, there have been no negotiations because the negotiators made to the provisions of that bill which allowed the Secretary, came to the conclusion that with the law as it now stands the or ''hich did not prevent the Secretary from accepting bonds, Secretary could not grant an extension ·of time beyond that especial1y from Germany, in lieu· of those of Great Britain, which was provided in the present law, and that the provisions France, or Italy, and there was a widespread fear throughout of existing law are too limited to afford a satisfactory basis for the country, growing, undoubtedly, out of the discussion in the the complicated refunding operations involved. Therefore, all press, that this Government would accept German bonds for matters of negotiation were betel in abeyance pending the legi_a tll.ose of other countries. lative authority which was thought necessary on the part of Another serious objection was that there was no limit to the the present administration for the proper refunding of the for- time which the Secretary might give as to the date of the eign debt. · maturity of the obligations which we would receive for the in Mr. HITCHCOCK. Has the Senator from North Dakota !.u debtedne s due from the foreign Governments. · vestigated the record so as to know and to be able to state when .Anotller objection was that there was no limitation as to the the negotiations were dropped? · rate of interest that should be agreed upon between this Gov Mr. McCUMBER. I have invested the record and we have ernment' and the uebtor nations. the testimony. I should have to 1'efer back to the testimony To meet these objections a new bill was prepared, which pro of the Secretary of the Treasury in order to ans\'ver the Sen Yid.es for a commission of five persons, one of whom shall be ator's question, and I have not that testimony before me just the Secretary of the Treasury, the other four to be appointed at the present time; but undoubtedly before we get through by the President by and with· the advice and consent of the with the argument all of that matter will be presented. · Senate. Therefore, the objection that we were· placing too Mr. HITCHCOCK. Can the Senator state whether or not much power in the hands of a single person in the matter of a those negotiations were discontinued prior to the advent of the settlement of this great indebtedness has been eliminated. We present administration? haYe also provided that the Senate· shall pass judgment upon l\Ir. McCUMBER. They were. the qualifications of any person presented to become a member Mr. HITCHCOCK. And they have not been resumed sin,~e of this commission. that time? ~lr. KIKG. l\lr. President, would it interrupt the Senator Mr. ~1cCU:MBER. It is my understanding that they have not if I should ask a question at this point·? been. Mr. l\1cCUl\1BER. Not at all. Mr. President, the new bill also provides that no portion of ~Ir. KIXG. I believe the bill provides for a commission of the debt of any ~ountry may be released except upon payment. four in addition to the Secretary of the Treasury? It also provides that the bonds of one co'untry may not be re :Mr. l\lcCUl\lBER. tt does. ceived in payment of the debts which are due from another Mr. KING. Obviously the work of the commission will call country. for coordinated and integrated action, pr1;tctical unanimity. Mr. ·McKELLAR. Mr. President, from what bill is· the Sen What is the necessity of having four? It seems to me tliat two ator from North Dakota reading? independent persons outside of the Treasury Department, who Mr. McCUMBER: I am reading from Order of Business 408, with the Secretary of the Treasury would be charged with the being House 'bill 8762. · · execution of the powers conferred by the act, would be sufficient. Mr. ;\fcKELLAR. Then I have the wrong bill. l\Ir. McCUMBER. Finally, the President of the ·united States l\Ir. .McCUMBER. Again, the'present bill, differing from the is the arbiter in the matter. In other. words, the action they first bill which was introduced, prohibits the commission from take must be passed upon by the President of the United States, ·accepting a rate of interest from any_country lower than that so that we practically have a.notber one added. But the reason provided by existing law. The existing law, as Senators well for making it four might be as obvious as the reason for making understand, provides that the bonds that shall be taken shall it three. The purpose was to avoid the criticism which was not bear a rate of interest less than the highest rate which this urged against placing a matter of such vital importance in the Government provides in any of its bonds out of the proceeds of hands of a single individual, and therefore it ·was thought which the loans were made. better to make it five. It might have been made two or three These, l\'Ir. President, are the essential differences between the or four: two bills. I have stated that the bill provided that the interest Mr. KING. lf the Senator will pardon me, that argument rate should not be less than that provided by law. May I cor does not address itself '\)'ery forcefully to me. rect that statement? The bill as reported leaves that matter to Mr. ~fcCUl\fBER. Yet it was a very earnest argument made the discretion of the Secretary of the Treasury, but the com on the floor of the Senate. mittee will present another amendment, which will restrict the Mr. KING. It becomes necessary to assemble certain data right of the commission to accept less than the rate of interest "~ ith respect to the condition of the debtor nations. These provided by law. data have been provided, or substantially so. It means negoti What authority other than the authority · which they now ations with those nations with a view to agreeing upon certain have under existing law is left to the discretion of the commis- terms, and of cotuse those negotiations must be based upon in sion. formation which we possess. So it comes back to the proposi First, they have the right to fund past due interest into bonds, tion which I suggested a moment ago, that it only contemplates either short time or long time, provided, of course, that the sum action by a small body of men, and, as the Senator stated, that can not be collected in cash. ,~ ery question in the final . analysis is to be determined by the Second, they have the right to fund into national bonds obli President of the United States himself. It seems to me three gations which are held by the United States Grain Corporation. men could assemble this information just as well as five men, Those are now simply demand obligations. and that t)lree men could conduct the negotiations just as well Third, they have the ·authority to fund obligations received as five, indeed a little better. It is a case which _essentially from the War and Navy Departments for surplus A1·my and calls for the exercise of discretion and authority and· power Navy materials sold to foreign countries. Practically all of by a limited n11mber of men. _ those are simply demand obligations at the present time. They ::\lr. McCUMBER. I am perfectly free to say that I think one may fund them into long-time bonds, allowing such length of man could have done it just as -well. The Secretary of the time as in their discretion should be allowed, not longer than Treasury, with his experts, I think, could haYe settled the mat 25 :rears. ter satisfactorily for and on behalf of the American people. Fourth, they have the right to fund into bonds moneys which But there was such a strong and earnest objection made to h'av have been advanced by the American Relief Association for ing one mtl,n pass judgment upon this matter that for the very which we simply hold the obligations of foreign countries, prac purpose of avoiding that criticism provision was made and a tically all of which are demand obligations. new bill introduced providing for a commission of five members. Fift:b, they have the right to arrange with different countries, l\lr. HI'.rOHCOCK. 1\lr. President-- according to their financial conditions, the date on which inter 1\lr. l\fcOUl\lBER. To guard against any danger 'from the est is to be paid. appointive power, those four must be confirmed by the Senate. I presume that that provision is practically the only provision I yield to the Senator from Nebraska. in the whole bill upon which the members of the 00illl1.1ittee on Mr .. HITCHCOCK. Will the Senator be so kind as to advise Finance were at all in serious disagreement, and it 6--oes not the Senate 'That became of the negotiations that have con- entirely meet the reqt!est of the Secretary -of the Treasury. He 1922. CONGRESS! ON .A.L RECORD-SENATE. 1573 thought he ought to have the right not only to fix the. ti.Ipe at extend the time in which the interest may begin to be paid. If which the bonds should begin to bear a rate of interest, but, in once we concede that we ought to give the commission that addition to that, that he should have the right to fix the rate authority, then should we place a limitation upon that author of interest which he thought would be for t~e best interests of ity? If so, what shall the limitation be? If we say in the law the American people. Of course, he has asserted over and over that it shall be three years or four years or five years, then again that what he really expected to do was as to the im every nation which owes us a penny will press us for an exten portant counh·ies, tho e that were regarded as still solvent, to sion for five years. If a little nation like Czechoslov.akia can obtain an iuterest rate of about 5 per cent; and he thought he no_t begin to pay interest for five years, Great Britain and would be able to do that; and, furthermore, that some of the F.rance and other nations will ask for the longest time which countries would be able to pay the interest semiannually and may be allowed under tlie bill. to make the first payment within six months after the issuance I assume that a commission will be appointed and that the of the bonds, but that . he might not be able to make such an members of the commission will be Americans ; I assume that agreement with all of the countries, though the commission they will not receive confirmation at the hands of the Senate of would attempt to do the very best they could in that respect. the United States unless they are possessed of the patriotism Mr. McKELLAR. Mr. President, would not the commissLon and intelligence necessary to settle that matter, and to settle it under this bill have the right to defer the interest payments to the best interests of the United States, and to settle it with as they might see fit? each country according to the condition of that country. If we Mr. 1\-fcCill.fBER. Certainly; that, as I have said, is the are to place a limit as to when the payment of interest is to only question of difference, and I will explain that, and we begin and when it is to end, we shall make it exceedingly em shall see what a difficult question it is. I can answer that, barrassing for the commission in dealing with the several coun perhaps, just as well now as at any other time. tries, for the reason which I have expre sed, that all those We have now held these demand obligations ever since the countries will ask for the same treatment. money was loaned to the foreign Governments. With the ex Mr. HITCHCOCK. 1\.fr. President, when the Senator from ception of the interest payments shown on page 8 of the com North Dakota says that authority is to be given to the commis mittee report, no interest has been paid by the foreign Govern sion to fix the date upon which nations shall begin to pay their ments. Shortly after the close of the war the then adminis interest, does he refer merely to the payment of interest, or does tration agreed to allow the payment of interest to be held in he mean that the commission shall have the right to fix the date abeyance; in other words, agreed that the United States would from which the interest shall begin to. run? . not press the interest for some two or three years. Mr. McCUMBER. I think the only serious question is as to A great deal of criticism has been made, aucl probably more when the payment of interest shall begin. If we provide in the has been made upon this side of the Chamber than upon the bill that the interest shall be paid semiannually, for instance, other, against the action of the Wil&on administration in and that i~ shall not be less than 5 per cent or its equivalent, granting that extension. I do not think, ta.kiug everything ilito and then, If we reach an agreement and accept the bonds of consideration, that the criticism is well founded in all respects. France or of Italy a month from now, then seven months from I try to be fair in all matters of that kind. I do not think now the first interest on the debt becomes due. If any of these there is anything in the law that allowed the Secretary of ~he countries fail to pay, they will have shown to the world that Treasury or that administration or would allow any oth(>r they are absolutely bankrupt and in default in their debt and administration to extend the time of the payment of the in they will thereby injure their credit. terest; but I realize that there were a great many m1settled Mr. HITCHCOCK rose. questions. For instance, there were counterclaims of dW coun 1\fr. McCUl\fBER. Let me make that clear. try against another for money advanced and services performed, Mr. HITCHCOCK. The Senator from North Dakota has not and until there was a settlement of tho e claims we could not quite gotten my idea. tell just exactly how much we were owing Great Britain and l\ir. MccmmER. I do not think that any country will agree France and Italy, and how much Italy, France, and Great to put itself in a position where it must default on the payment Britain were owing us on unsettled accounts. My understand of its bonded obligations. ing is that the real basis of the extension of time was i.hat tho!_=:e Mr. HITCHCOCK. I ask the Senator this que~tion: Is there accounts were unsettled, and it was agreed that the matter any question whether or not the interest on these obligations might lie in abeyance until it was ascertained just how those began to run when the debts were incurred? accounts stood. So, without going into the question of whether Mr. McCUMBER. Not the slightest. the administration really bad the legal authoray to uo t:o, I de 1\fr. HITCHCOCK. So that the Secretary of the Treasury sire to say that it was a time when we were at war and when or the commission, then, is not to be given any authority to those accounts remained to be settled. Therefore, I can J>Ot defer the elate upon which the interest· shall begin to run? find it in my heart to criticise the administration for :;aying to Is the answer to that question yes or no? the debtor countries, "We will hold the matter in abeyance for Mr. McCUMBER. I do not understand exactly what the two or three years "-for whatever time they thought was Senator means. Interest is accruing all the time. Neither the necessary-" in order that the accounts between the different Secretary nor the commission can yield one penny of the nations may be settled." interest. l\lr. McKELLAR. l\lr. President, I wish to ask the Senator l\fr. HITCHCOCK. So that the power which it is proposed from North Dakota if that time has expired? to give the commission is the power to defer the date upon Mr. McCUMBER. If we consider that the extension was which the bonds shall mature? to be for two year , it has expired ; but the request was for Mr. 1\fcCUl\fBER. Yes; and when the first interest shall an extension of two or three years, and the three years' time begin to be paid upon the bonds. has not expired ; but if an extension of three years was granted, l\Ir. HITCHCOCK. Let me ask another question. At the it has very nearly expired. present tin1e we hold demand obligations and no interest Mr. McKELLAR. Under those circumstances why should substantially is being paid? we not, allowing the full limit of three years, "deal with the Mr. McCUMBER. No. Mr. HITCHCOCK. What reason, then, is there that we matter, and ~::ay that the commis ·ion shall have the right to defer interest up until that time which we have promised should at this time change the form of the contract so long as that is, until the expiration of the full three years, if neces the nations are not ready even to begin payment of the interest sary-but that thereafter the interest shall be collected? or the principal? Mr. McCUMBER. I understand the Senator's question, and Mr. McCUl\fBER. We want, l\Ir. President, from every one of those countries bonds which are negotiable in form, bear I can answer it thoroughly. Before "\Ve get through I will state why the Secretary of the Treasury will need to grant ing a definite rate of interest, the principal of which is due extra time to orne of the countries before the payment of the at a definite date, and the interest on which shall begin at a interest is demanded. definite date, bonds that we may use and sell. I may have a debtor owing me $1,000 upon an open account. I say to l\fr. 1\fcKE~LAR. Let me ask the Senator another question: that debtor, "Put it in the form of a note bearing 6 per cent Suppose the commission were to extend the time for the pay interest, due on a certain date, and I can use it in the bank or ment of the interest for 5 years or 10 years or 15 years or elsewhere; I shall then know definitely under your signature even 20 years, they would have the right to do that, would what y;0u are owing me, what interest you are to pay, and if they not? · I desire to dispose of the note I may dispose of it." 1\Ir. l\fcCUl\fBER. There is no time limit fixed in the bill Mr. HITCHCOCK. But I understand that the Senator is to which the payment of the interest may be extended. talking about a condition in which these nations are not yet Mr. McKELLAR. That was my understanding. ready to say that they can begin the- payment of interest. If Mr. McCUMBER. The first question which we must deter that is so, why place in the hands of any commission the power mine is whether or not the commission shall have authority to to do a thing; that is still in the future? ~ 1574 CONGRESSIONAL REOORD-SEN.AT:& JANUARY 23, Mr. McCUMBER. Because, Mr. President, some of these Mr. McKELLAR. Mr. President, wi.p the Senator yield? nations will begin the payment of interest six months after the Mr. McCUMBElR. Yes; and then I will go on, after I hav-e bond is issued. Some of them can not do it, and therefore we yielded this once. should not fix by law that all must do it. J:f we grant further Mr. McKELLAR. -Very well. With the exception of this time fix a time by iaw; then every one of them will ask for interest matter, it seems to me that this bill is in a thousand the privilege, and we do not want to invite them to as~ for the times better shape than it was when it came to the Senate. privilege. . I think the Soo.ate committee has improved it very much. The Mr. mTCHCOCK. Then the fact is that any nation which question I desire to ·ask about the matter is this: can begin the payment of interest now, or six months from now, Suppose, for instance, we take the bonds of Italy fol' the can do so on the existing demand obligations, and the obliga amount that Italy owes us, with interest-bearing coupons, as tions are in such shape that the Secretary of the Treasury can is provided here, at the rate of interest that is fixed under the take the interest at any time, and it simply depends llpon theh· present statute, as provided in this bill. Even after we have ability to . pay. Then why undertake to vest these extraordi taken those bonds, with the interest coupons attached, this com nary powers in the hands of a ~ommission so far in advance? mission will still have the right to defer the intel'est if that Mr. McCUMBER. ' Then the Senator would leav-e those mat Government makes an agreement with it. ters standing just as they are, and let the Secretary collect the Mr. McCUMBER. No. interest if he can, and if they do not see fit let the matters Mr. McKELLAR. I will just read to the Senator what the remain in abeyance. Their agreement, however, wben we bill says and call his attention to this language, because, juug loaned them the money, was that they would put the loan into ing from what the Senator has stated, that is not the intention· bonds that would become due at the same time and bear the of the bill, and I think it is very proper that it should not be same rate of intei'est or the highest rate of interest that we the intention of the bill. It says-! am reading on page l- might pay upon our bonds issued during the war. ~at we Is hereby authorized to refund or convert, and to extend the time of are seeking to do ·now is to carry that into effect, w1th the payment of the principal or the interest, or both, of any obligation of any foreign Government now owing to the United States of America, or modification that where we find nations that can not do it, and any obligation of any foreign Government hereafter received by the where we find those that, while they will be able to do it, may United States of America. have to have an extension upon the matter of the accumulated Manifestly, under the broad power given there, even after interest, we may be in a position to accept that. bonds with interest coupons attached have been given, this Mr. HITCHCOCK. Mr. President, it seems to me that as the commission would have the right to defer that interest. I take thing stands to-day, with these -demand obligations in the Treas it, from what the Senator has said, that that is not the purpose ury the matter is in the hands of the United States, and that of the committee, and I hope it was not the purpose of the com wh~t it is proposed to do now is to change the law, to take it mittee; and it seems to me that eventuality ought to be guarded out of the hands of the United States, which holds demand against. obligations and which can demand the i_nter~t at any time, Mr. McCUMBER. I think when the Senator reads the whole and we are going to place an enormous discretionary power in bill to·gether he will find that after they have received the bond the hands of a little commission appointed by the President, of one of these foreign Governments there will be then no right pmctically, and allow that commission to modify the rights an This act first provides for credits similar to those granted in Mr. HITCHCOCK. Any creditor has the right. when there the preceding law, then it proceeds: is interest in default, to accept the interest that may be The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby authorized to purchase, at tendered and to give the necessary extension for that purpose. par, from such foreign Governments respectively their several obli~a The fact-- - tions hereafter issued, bearing such rate or rates of interest, matunng at such date or dates, not later than the bonds of the United States Mr. McCUMBER. Oh, no; neither the Secretary nor anyone then last issued under the authority of this act, or of such act ap else has a right to change the law. proved April 24, 1917, and containing suc-h terms and conditions as the Mr. HITCHCOCK. The fact is-- Secretary of the Treasury may from time to time determine * * * and any such obligations shall contain such provisions as the Secre· Mr. . McCUMBER. \Vhat I am asking the Senator is, Does tary of the Treasury may from time to time determine for the conver the law provide that the interest shall be paid at certain times; sion of a proportionate part of such obligations into obligations bear· and if it does so provide, has the Secretary the right to extend inll: a higher rate of interest if bonds of the United States issued under authority of this act shall be converted into other bonds of the United the time? · States bearing a higher rate of interest ; but the rate of interest in Mr. HITCHCOCK. I am citing the Senator-- such foreign obligations issued upon such conversion shall not be less Mr. McCUl\fBER. Will the Senator answer that question? than the highest rate of interest borne by such bonds of the United States. The Senator is putting ·it to me. Let me put it back to him, so . The fair construction of the act of April 24, 1917, is that that I may get his own view. He is evidently pi·esenting to me while the bonds that will be accepted shall bear a higher rate the point as to whether I agree with that Secretary's action of interest than 3! per cent if we subsequently issue bonds at a at least, and I am not forced to that. ·I agree with what the higher rate, the foreign bonds issued to co>er such loans shall law says. Does the Senator agree that the law allows the Sec retary to change the date at which the interest shall become mature at the sllllle time as the first Liberty bonds. The other due? · laws state that the bonds given shall mature not later than the date fixed by the last bonds; so there is a difference between M1·. HITCHCOCK. I trust the Senator will now permit me the first law and the second law in that respect. to make a statement or two. The first Liberty bonds become due in 1947, with a call privi Mr. McCU:l\1BER. I thought I had yielded to the Senator. lege in 1932. The fourth Liberty bonds become due in 1938, Mr. HITCHCOCK. The Senator is not giving me the oppor with a previous call provision. All of these matters must be tunity to fully answer him. taken into consideration in the matter of the settlement undei' Mr. l\fcCUMBER. The Senator is speaking in my time, an 1\.Ir. McCU~ffiER. I would like to answer it in simple lan raw materials and other supplies and we sold to them enor guage which will illustrate the matter so that I think we will mous quantities of the Ylllue of billions of dollar . We loaned all understand it. SuppGse the Senator was a creditor and that them no money; we extended to them credits, which they ex he had a dozen or fifteen debtors, one-half of them or one-third hausted in the purchase at high prices of American products. of them on th~ verge of bankruptcy and the other two-thirds They were fighting for the ideals and principles for which we practically bankrupt. Suppose he wanted to get his debt from fought when later we entered the war. every one of them paid in full and wanted to get it paid in the Some of the oblign.Uons due us ai~e from States which we vm-y best possible time. Suppose that while he had obligations helped toe tablish. Poland, Czechoslovakia, and the new Jugo that were due and past due from some of them, the condition of SlaY nation are some of the fruits of the war, and we in part each debtor was such that he would feel that he could not sim are respon ible for their existence. There is a moral obliga ply continue the old obligations, even in the manner in which tion upon our part, if not a legal one, to aid these States which they were willing to grant them at that time, bat that there we helped to erect. If we choose to abandon them, we can not must be time extended to this one or that one; there must be afford to crush them by a demand for an immediate payment an arrangement made so that we could have one country, when of the amounts which we advanced to help them in their early it pays its debt to the other, pay it to this country, or, in the struggles fox existence. It would be cruel, indeed it would be case I have illustrated, if the debtor A. is owing another one of cowardly, for the United States to adopt any course that wourd the debtors .B, and the d~btor B is owing the Senator, a plan crush the States which this Republic helped to erect. that they can so arrange their times of credit and the notes If I understand the Senator, I agree with the implications which each will take from the other that each one may, -ac arising from his remarks that Great Britain and France and cording to its ability, pay what it can upon the obligations. Italy and Belgium and other allied and associated nations Let me apply it to the ceuntries in this way. We have a de fought for the icleals and principles for which we contend this mand against Great Britain. We have a demand against Nation stands. They have made contribution to the cause of France. We have a demand against Italy. Now, remember civilization. They have aided in the advancement of the ideals that we loaned practicallY $9,500,000,000 in the first instance. the principles of liberty espoused by this Republic. We can I say loaned; we did not entirely loan it in one respect. We not afford to crush them or to adopt an oppressiye or intolerant gave them credit. course which would constitute an impediment to their rehn.bili Mr. KING. We sold them our products at high prices. tation, politically and economically. Mr. McCUMBER. Yes; and we made a mighty good profit 1 agree with the Senator, if I understand his po~ition, that out of that credit. I can assure the Senator of that. We gave in adjusting the indebtedness and in executing this refunding that credit for about $10,000,000,000. Great Britain turned program there should be some latitude in order that the debt.o1·s right around and loaned -$9,500,000,000 to her allies. France may be brought together for consultation and conference, ·o loaned about $3,000,000,000 to her allies. Great Britain owes that while the United States does not abate its claim or suffer the United States. France owes Great Britain. Italy owes injury., a policy may be agreed upon that will not be des.h·uctiTe France and Great Britain and the United States at the same of or injurious to our former allies--our former, and it is time. hoped our present and future, friends. A. plan must be agreed Now, for instance, we .Press France. Great Britain presses upon with respect to the time and manner of payments that her claim against France at the same time. Immediately there will not only not be harmful to Europe but indeed beneficial is a contest as to which is going to be the pref-erred creditor to it. nation. If France gives .an obligation she will want to know It is to the financial advantage of our country that peace and what Italy will do with reference to the -obligations due from prosperity come to Europe. Europe's bankruptcy would pro\e her to France. When Great Britain finally puts her immense of incalculable injury to this Nation. Not only would thel'e be indebtedness into an obligation she would like to ha\e it due at the loss of the billions owing the Government, but there would some relation of time in which she may get from her debtors be billions lost owing to A.meJ:ican bankers, busines house ·, and the same amount of mone3_" or interest that it may be necessary individuals. In these days, when there .is so much talk of our to pay us. domestic troubles and of our disturbed financial conditions and Therefore, in order to allow each of these creditors and the of depression in business and of .millions without employment, United States with them to get together and get the Yery best. a description of the tragic situation is always followed by a conditiom;, and, with the present demoralized bankrupt condi discussion of the economic and political conditions of Europe. tion of Europe, allow them to make the very best terms they We are beginning to see that without the rehabilitation of can, we will have to call them all in together. We can not Europe our pro •perity will be long deferred. The American deal- with one nation absolutely independ€ntly of the otherN. people are beginning to peTceive the intimate relations between There ought to be a discretion in the commission ta be exer the nations of the earth. They a1·e learning· that though seas cised in such manner that they can get an agreement between divide ·us the world is in close relationship and that obstacles the other nations with reference to their debts and with J;efer to the progress and prosperity and peace of any nation consti ence to the payment of debts to us. When we ask France to pay tute impediment to the prosperity of other nations. We are us, France, who owes Great Britain just as much, will say, linked to the world. We are a part of the world. "Well, what time wHl Great Britain give me? When will she With more than $16,000,000,000 due from Europe to the demand hers? How can I get something out of Italy, and United States Go"ernment and to nationals of our country, when will Italy make her debt due to me?" There are ques it would seem obvious that we can not adopt any course that tion on which you as a Cl'editor would deal with your debtors will impair the economic strength now possessed by .Europe or if they were in the condition that Europe is in to-day. We interpose obstacles to European revival. In a material way, to should give the commission authority to deal in the same way say nothing of the moral question involred, we are profoundly with those nations and to protect their credit just as much as interested in Europe. "\'\:--e not only want payment sooner or we possibly can. It would be to the Senator's interest in col later for what is due to America, but we want El.U·opean lecting from his debtor that lle did not drive him into bank peoples to be buyers of om· surplus products. They must haye ruptcy. It would be to the interest of the United States in strength to build the~· waste places and devasted lands and dealing with all of these countries, when one is depending upon r·eplenish their exl1austed treasurie . Common bnsines sense the other, that we take no step that will drive one of those dictates a policy of forbearance and patience in dealing with nations into bankruptcy or compel them to default in their this important question. interest. If I understand the Senator, I am · in accord with many of Mr. KING. Mr. President-- the uggestions contained in llis able plea for a wise and .Pru The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. FERNALD in tile chair). dent policy in settling the obligation due the United States Does the Senator from North Dakota yield further to the Sen from European nations. ator from Utah? But retm'Iling to the question suggested a moment ago, .a I Mr. McCUMBER. With pleasure. construe the law, there i nothing to inhibit the Uniteu States in Mr. KING. If I may trespass .further for a moment on the malting settlement from treating deferred payment of inte-re t Senator's time, I agree with much of what the able Senator as principal and adding the :une to the principal. The has said. In my opinion it would be not only ungenerous but ::unounts thus stated could be the basis of the bond to be exceedingly unwise and impolitic for the United States to issued by the debtor nations which we are to a<:ceilt. force our allies into bankruptcy. The situation of Europe 1\Jr. McCUMBER Under the pre ent law? to-day is deplorable. Our allies in the Great War are bowin"' Mr. KING. I am not sure as to that. beneath very heavy burdens-burdens resulting from the World l\fr. l\fcCUMBER. I am sure that the Senator is not sure ·war into which they were forced. In their struggles for lib as to that. erty and to save the wor1d from a brutal militarism tlley '\Yer l\fr. KIXG. No. I will be ent~·ely frank '\Yitll the n.ator. compelled to incur crushing obligations. They needed food and If I am not suTe of a proposition, I will frankly confess it. 1922. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 1577 Mr. McCUMBER. I am certain of that. · that she could not pay within one year or t·w·o year-· or eren :ilr. KING. As a legal proposition there may be, indeed within three years; I am positive she coultl not. tllere is, yery much in the position of the Senator that we Mr. KING. The same is true as to Poland. need additional authority to convert the deferred payments of Mr. McCU1\IBER. But if we put into the bill that we shall intere t into bonded indebtedness. . grant any country three years, then Great Britain and France 1\Ir. 1\IcCUl\IBER. And also the other obligations that we and Italy and all of the other countries will ask for the three took for the sale of property, and so forth. years extension. Therefore, I do not want to fix that time be 1\lr. KING. Yes. But if I understand the Senator from cause we want to begin to get interest from the country that Nebra ka [Mr. HITCHCOCK], for whose judgment I entertain will be able to pay it at the ·earliest possible moment. such a high regard, and whose leadership I accepted with so Mr~ McKELLAR. l\lr.. President-- much satisfaction-! am not quite in accord with his position. l\lr. McCUMBER. I yield to the Senator from-Tennessee. I am not willing to allow the status quo to be maintained. Mr. McKELLAR, I wish to ask the Senator a few questions I think it is unfair to Europe. I. think it is unfair to the United in order to ascertain whether I understand his idea as to just States. The nations of Europe who are indebted to us are what this bill proposes to accomplish. I shall be very brief. entitled to know now, or as soon as possible, what our exactions First, it provides that the commission may take bonds for the will be. They have to formulate their budgets. They have to principal of the debt. rearrange their international credits among themselves; and 1\Ir. McCUMBER. That they may _refuml t11e principal into their course depends upon our course. Great Britain can not l9ng-term bonds. tell what she will do with France, nor France with Italy, until Mr. McKELLAR. They may refund the principal into long they lmow what we will do with them. time bonds to mature not. later than 1947? I think it is important that we put into proper form the Mr. i\fcCUl\ffiER. Yes. eYidences of indebtedness, the amounts due the United States, Mr. McKELLAR. In the second place, the bill requires bonds so that our debtors may know exactly what they owe us when to be taken for the past due interest? they have to pay it, and the rate of interest which is to be Mr. McCUMBER. Yes. paid. Therefore, I am in favor of some refunding bill. I l\1r. IcKELLAR. And in the next place it permits the com am not willing to rely upon the obligations that are now exist mission to 'take bonds for such sums as are due us for supplies ing. They ought to be refunded. France, Italy, and the other furnished by the Army or the Navy.? nations of Europe who owe us ought to know exactly what l\Ir. McCUMBER. It permits those debts to be funded into t.hey owe us and the form of obligations which they must long-time bonds. assume. Mr. McKELLAR. And so as to the Food Administration and I thank the Senator for his courtesy. some other agencies which loaned foreign Governments money, Mr. McCUMBER. I think I could carry the Senator's argu and for which we have only their " I 0 U's." ment a little further to show the necessity of it. I will take, In addition to that, the bill provides that the interest t·ate for instance, if he desires, France, who ts now indebted, I be shall be precisely the same as the interest rate now provided lie•e, in the sum of $51,000,000,000. That is the national in by law on the obligations of the United States from the pro There being no objection, the table referred to was ordered $84,063,963.55 and obligations of the United. States Grain Com to be pl'inted in Ute REcoRD, as follows: mission of $56,858,802.49. ObligatU>m of all other cotnltries. Mr. NORRIS. Mr. President, I offer au amendment to the pending bill, which I desire to have printed and lie on the table. Second Liberty The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so First Liberty bond act as Total under ordered. bond act. amended and Liberty bond supplemented. acts. Mr. SIMMONS. Mr. President, it is getting late, and I had desired to leave the Chamber in a very short time. If the Sena tor from North Dakota does not object, I would be glad to have Cuba...... ·...... S8,575, 000.00 $8,575,000.00 the bill go over until to-morrow. I understand the Senator Czechoslovakia...... 61,256,206. 74 61,256,206. 74 Greece...... 15, 000, 000. 00 15, 000,000. 00 from Kansas wishes an executive session. Liberia...... 26, 000. 00 26, 000. 00 Mr. CURTIS. Yes; a short one. Rumania...... 23, 205, 819.52 23,205, 819.52 Mr. SIMMONS. I could only cover part of what I wish to Russia...... $97,500,000 90,229,750.00 187,729, 75o:oo Serbia...... 1, 500,000 24,675, 139. 22 26, 175, 139.22 say about the measure, and it might involve the necessity of 1------1------1------reviewing in the morning what I would say this afternoon. Total...... · 99,000,000 222,967,915.48 321,967,915.48 Mr. McCUMBER. I am extremely anxious, as I have stated, that we shall proceed with all diligence to dispose of the bill; Mr. McCUMBER. Mr. President, I think now I have covered but I also appreciate that this is the first day. we have brought the question thoroughly and fully upon the main propositions. it before the Senate· in its modified form, and I expected noth The whole qqestion resolves itself down to the one proposition ing more to-day than the mere presentation of its present of whether we wish to give this commission the authority to status. say whe~ the inter:est shall begin and the payment be made by 1\Ir. CURTIS. Then the Senator has no objection to letting any particular country. it go over until to-morrow? l\Ir. CURTIS . . Mr. President, may I inquire if the Senator Mr. McCUMBER. None whatever. from North Dakota put in the RECORD any statement concerning EXECUTIVE SESSION. the obligation of the British Government showing that on one loan on which over $500,000,000 of interest was due, the time of 1\h. CURTIS. I move that the Senate proceed to the con payment of that interest was deferred until October, 1922? sideration of executive business. Mr. 1\IcCUUBER. What is the Senator's statement? The motion was agreed to, and the Senate proceeded to the 1\lr. CURTIS. On one of the loans of the British Government, consideration of executive business. After 25 minutes spent in coYered by an obligation made, I think,. in 1919, the interest executive session the doors were reopened, and (at 4 o'clock all( pa~·ment was deferred until October, 1922. Did the Senator 30 minutes p. m.) the Senate adjourned until to-morrow, Tues place in the· REcoRD a statement regarding that? clay, January 24, 1922, at 12 o'clock meridian. l\lr. NORRIS. Mr. President, I would like to ask the Senator from Kansas· what authority the Secretary of the Treasury had in law to grant that sort of an extension? NOMINATIONS. 1\lr. CURTIS. I am not stating that he bad any such au- Executire nominations 1·eceived b:y the Senate Jf!-n'l.wry 2.3, 1922. thority, but I asked if that fact was put in the RECORD, in order UNITED STATES COAST GUATID. that Senators might see what kind of a situation the committee had to meet. There w.as an obligation and a promise. Lieut. (Junior Grade) John P. Gray to l>e a lieutenant, to Mr. NORRIS. Does the Senator think; because an agreement rank as such from June 30, ·1920, in place of Lieut. i>. ,V. was made. which was plain!~· contrary to the law, that Congress Lauriat, promoted. is bound by it? , · · Lieut. (Junior Grade) William Williams to be a lieutenant, l\Ir. CURTIS. I do not think Congress is botmd by it, but I to rank as such from July 1, 1920, in place of Lieut L. c. Covell, think Congress would undoubtedly stand by it because of the promoted. fact that it was made. Lieut. (Junior Grade) John H. Cornell to be a lieutenant, to Mr. NORRIS. It would depend a good deal on how far it rank as such from July 6, 1920, in place of Lieut. Eben Barker went. They might have made an agreement that they would retired. . . . not haYe to pay the interest for 40 years. We would not stand· Lieut. (Junior Grade) William P. Wishaa1.· to be a lieutenant for that. They might haYe agreed that they would cancel the to .rank as such from October 10, 1920, in place of Lieut. T. 1\I debt, but it would not be any more legal than the agreement Molloy, promoted. v•hich was made to extend the payment of the interest until Lieut. (Junior Grade) Gordon T. Finlay to be a lieutenant next October. to rank as such from Fetiruary 2, 1921, in place of Lieut l\Ir. ::UcCU:l\iBER. 1\iay I ans\ver the Senator from Kansas? E. S. Addison, promoted. The Renator spoke of a particular interest indebtedness of · Lieut. (Junior Grade) Louis L. Bennett to be a lieutenant, to $500,000,000? rank as such from April 23, 1921, in place of Lieut. W. H. Shea _)h-. CUR'.riS. Ye ; five hundred and odd million dollars. promoted. )lr. McCill1BER. I..et me call attention to the fact that · Lieut. (Junior Grade) William J. Keester to be a lieutenant while that pt·oposition 'came from the debtor nation, it was never to rank as such from November 14, 1921, in place of Lieut consummated. That particular agreement never resulted in C. F. Seiter, died. anything. Nothing eve1· came of it. There was no agreement Ensign Noble G. Ricketts to be a lieutenant (junior grade) to extend the time at all, but it was simply a request from the to rank as such from October 10, 1920, in place of Lieut. (Junior debtor that the. time of payment of the $500,000,000 of interest Grade) W. P. '\Vishaar, promoted. l>e .·o extended. Ensign Harold G. Bradbury to be a lieutenant (junior grade) TlJere , was an agreement made, lloweYer, by the previous ad- to rank as such from October 19, 1920, in place of Lieut. (Junior ministration that the payment of the accrued interest up to that Grade) P. H. Harrison, retired. time might l>e deferred for two or three years. That is the Ensign Irving '\V. Buckalew to be a lieutenant (junior grade) wa.r Ute agreement read. The present Secretary of the Treas- to rank· as such from December 29, 1920, in place of Lieut ur;\' has thought that inasmuch as that was acted upon by the (Junior Grade) G. W. McKean, resigned. foreign Government there is at least a moral obligation upon Ensign Rae B. Hall to be a lieutenant (junior grade), to rank him to follow it. That i the reason why nothing has been as such from February 2, 1921, in place of Lieut. (Junior Grade) done to press that beyond what the previous agreement was. G. T. Finlay, promated. I wish to say that the 'tables which I have just presented were Ensign Arthur G. Hall to be a lieutenant (junior grade), to made up as of the last interest-paying date. That was several rank as such from April 23, 1921, in place of Lieut. (Junior months ago. I think on the whole there could be added an Grade) L. L. Bennett, promoted. average of about six months' interest to each of those tables. Ensign Ephraim Zoole to be a lieutenant (junior grade), to Mr. POMERE~"E. May I ask the Senator what is the amount rank as such from August 20, 1921, in place of Lieut. (Junior of the bonds and other indebtedness shown by the tables? Grade) D. H. J\IacCollom, resigned. . Mr. McCUMBER. They are shown in the committee's report. Ensign Paul Kirkland Perry to be a lieutenant (junior grade), The total under the Liberty bonds was $9,434,774,829.24. Then to rank as such from October 8, 1921, in place of Lieut. (.Junior there were other loans for surplus war materials amounting Grade) D. P. Marvin, retired. to $57:4,673,710.21. Then there is accrued interest, I believe, •1f Lieut. Cecil M. Gabbett to be a lieutenant commander, to rank $1,178,879,925.88. Then ·we have in addition to that the obliga. as such from December 30, 1921, in place of Lieut. Commander tions receiyed from the American Relief Administration of G. L. Carden, retired. LXII--100 1582 CONGRESS-IONAL R~ ECORD-SENATE. JANUARY 28, UNITED STATES MARSHAL. Ensign Stuart S. Murray to be a lieutenant (junior grade) Rippon W. Ward, of North Carolina, to be Dnited States in the Navy from the 1st day of January, 1921. marshal, eastern district of North Carolina, ..-ice George H. Ensign William J. Strachan to be a lieutenant (junior Bellamy, resigned. · grade) in the Na\y from the 1st day of July, 1920. REGISTER OF THE LAND OFFICE. l\ledical Inspector Will l\1. Garton to be a medical director Robert M. Goshorn. of Kalispell, Mont., to be register of the in the Navy with the rank of captain from the 27th day of lanu office at Kalispell, Mont., effective upon completion of eon- Jul,fh/i:l~~wing-named medical inspectors to be medical direc- s<::~l.tdation under act of October 28, 1921. i:ors in the Navy \'l'ith the rank of captain from the 10th day of PROMOTIONS· IN THE NAVY. November, 1921: Capt. John V. Chase to be a rear admiral in the Navy from Willia.rn H. Bell. the 1st day of January, 1922. Holton C. Curl. Commander Lyman A. Cotten to be a captain in the 1..-avy Asst. Surg. James FJ. Houghton to be a passed assistant sur- from the 3d day of June, 1921. · , geon in the Navy mth the rank of lieutenant from the. 6th day Commander John J. Hyland! to be a captain in the Navy from of June, 1920. t11e 31st day of December, 1921. Asst. Surg. Elwood A. Sharp to be a pas ed assistant suro-eon Commander 'Villiam P. Cronan to be a captain in the Xavy in the- Navy with the rank of lieutenant from the 1st da; ot from the 1st day of January,. 1922. July, 1920: The following-named lieutenant commander to be command- The following-named passed assi tant dental sm·geons to be el!& in the Na'"Y from the 3d day of June,. 1921: dental surgeon in the Nayy with the rank of lieutenant com- Charles S . .Joyce. Edmtmd S. Root. mander- from the 3cl day of Juner 1921: Harold G. Bowen. Arthur K. A.tkim:. William L. ' Darnall. Marson W. Mangold. Anthony J. James. 1VUhelm L. Frieden. .John V. :;\Ic.Alpin. Edward E. Harris. Henry A. Orr. Logan A.. Willard. - Lieut. Commander William H. Toaz to be a commander in the ~st. Dental Surg. William R. Taylor to be a passed assistant Knvy from the 29th day. of .July, 1921. dental surgeon. in the Navy with the rank of lieutenant from the Lieut. . Commander Turner F. Caldwell to be a commantler in 6th day of June, 1920. the Na-.y from the 12th day of August, 1921. ~he following-named assistant dental surgeons to. be pa sed Lieut. Commander Ferdinand: L. Reichmuth to be a com- a s1stant dental surgeons in the Navy with- the rank of lieu- rnauaer in the Navy from the 23d day of December, 1921. tenant from the 1st day o:f July, 1920: The f.ollowing.:.named. lieutenant commanders to be command-· Hubert F. Delmore. ers :in the Navy from the 31st doy of December, 1921: John A. Walsh. Isaac C. Kidd. Charles C. Hartigan. Harrison B. Duncan. Sherwoode A. Taffinder. Lesley B. Anderson. Paymaster Da-.id C. Crowell to be a pay inspe Leo L. Lindley. 1 in the Navy from the 3d day of June,. 1921: Lieut. (Junior Grade) Ralph. G. Risley to be a. lieutenant in Hugh. P. LeClair. Fitzhugh Green. the Navy from the 7th day of ·March, 1918. I Granville· B. Hoey. Wilbur 'J. Carver. The following-named lieutenants (junior grade) to be lieu- Lucius C. Dunn. Ewart G. Haas. tenants in the Navy from the 7th day af June, 1919: Franci&A. LaRoche. Roy C. Smith, jr. Charlie P. 1\lcFeaters. James G. Ware. Samuel W. King. Lloyd H. Lewis. Lieut. (Junior Grade)- William Masek to be a lieutenant in Lieut. (Junior Grade) 1\Ia.xwell Case to be a lieutenant in the the Navy from the 1st day of July, 1919 . ..!. -avy fl;om the 30th day of JQ.Iy, 1919. Lieut. (Junior Grade) Fr:ink G. Kutz to be a lieutenant in the Lieut. (Junior Grade) Frederick D. Power . to be a lle!l~ Navy from the 30th day of July, 1919. • tenant in the Navy from the 6th day of June,..1920:. · Lieut. (Junior Grade) Axel Lindblad to be a lieutenant in the The following-named lieutenants (juniOl' grade) to· be lieu:-· Navy from the 1~t day of July, 1920. tenants in the Navy from the-1st day of. July, 1920: Lieut. (Junior Grade) Miles R. Browning to be a lieutenant amuel B. Brewer. Kenneth Floyd-Jon.es. in the Navy. from the 1st day of January, 1921. John H. For hew, jr. William H. Hartt, j1 • I T EnsigJ.~ Axel Lindblad to be a lieutenant (junior grade) in the Robert Poole. John W. Rogers. 1 Navy from the 28th day of June, 1920. . .John K. Jayne. Elmer V. I-rerson~ Ensign Ralph B- Netting to. b.e a lieutenant (jtmior graue) in ' Lieut. (Junior Grade) ~rnest A.. Foote to be a lieutenant in the Navy from the 1st day of July, 1920. the Navy from the 1st day of January.1921. Passed A.sst Su:rg. Claude W. Carr to be a surgeon in the The following:-named ensigns to be lieutenants {junior grade) Navy with the rank of lieutenant commander from the 4th day in the Navy from the 30th day of 1\Iarch, H>20: of l\.farch, 1921. Kenneth Floyd-Jones. . · Asst. Surg.. Ammi L. Johnson to be a passed assistant ·m- John H. Forshew. jr. geon. in the Navy with the rank of lieutenant from the 1st day The following-named ensigns to be lieutenants (junior grade) of January; 1921.. · in the Navy from the 29th day of June,_1920.:· Pay. Inspeetox. Walter.: B. Izard to be a paJr director in the William H. Hartt, jr. John K. Jarne~ Navy w.illr the..rank of captain from the 7th day of July, 1921. Job!l _W. Rogers. Elmer V. I\ersm1. Pay· Inspector William. 4:- Merritt to be a pay director in the Robert Poole. Navy, 'tith· rank of captain from the 1st day of November, 1921• . Ensign James 1\I. Johnston to be a lieutenant (junior grade) • Paymaster Graham M. Adee to be a pay inspector in the Navy m the Navy from the 1st day of July, 1920. with rank of commander from the 11th day of No-.ember, 1921. 1922. CONGRESSIONAL R.ECORD-SENATE. 1583 Pa~ . ed Asst. Paymaster .Major C. Shirley to be a paymaster in MISSOURI. the Nnvy with the rank of lieutenant commander from the 1st Birkley F. Wells to be postmaster at Clarksville, 1\lo., in pJaee day of July, 1918. of E. H. Moran. Incumbent's commission expired·July 25, 1921. The following-named passed assistant paymasters to be pay Samuel A. Jones to be postmaster at Burlington Junction, Mo., masters in the Navy with the rank of lieutenant commander in place of Charles Ferguson. Incumbent's commission expired from the 4th day of March, 1921 : · July 25, 1921. . GeorgeS. Wood. · Enos D. French to be postmaster at Skidmore, l\Io., in place of Harold C. Gwynne. E. T. Duval. Incumbent's commission expired July 25, 1921. The following-named assistant paymasters to be passed as sistant paymasters in the Navy with the rank of lieutenant from NEBRASKA. the 1st day of July, 1920; Henry E. Schemmel to· be postmaster at Hooper, Nebr., in Earl LeR. Bailey. place of C. G. Fritz, resigned. 'VaUace Prior. NEVADA. POSTMASTERS. Dora E. Kappler to be postmaster at Carlin, Nev., in place of AIUZONA. D. E. Kappler. Incumbent's commission expired July 14, 1920. Lola Moreno to be postmaster at Ray, Ariz., in place of Grace NEW HAMPSHIRE. Moorman, resigned. Myrtle M. Marsh to oe postmaster at Greenville, N. H., in COLORADO. place of U. l\1. Marsh. Incumbent's commission expired Jan Jesse C. Duffield to be postmaster at Willits, Colo., in place uary 5, 1920. of Charles 'Vhited, resigned. · James E. Collins to be postmaster at Lisbon, N. H., in place of A. L. Sherman. Incumbent's commission expired June 27, · HAWAII. 1920. David H. l\lacAdam to be postmaster at Honolulu, ~awaii, Almon W. Eaton to be postmaster at Wolfeboro, N. H., in in place of D. A. l\IacA..dam. Incumbent's commission expired place of F'. P. Hobbs, resigtled. March 16, 1921. IDAHO. NEW JEBSEY. Lorenzo S. Spates to be postmaster at Linden, N. J., in place Charles Brebner to be postmaster at St. Maries, Idaho, in of S. l\1. Wood, resigned. place of C. P. S\Yeeney. Incumbent's commission expired March Emma A. Clawson to be postmaster at Scotch Plains, N.J., in 16,1921. place of G . .A . • Clark. Jncumbent's commission expired l\larch ILLINOIS. 16, 1921. Clare D. Sherwood to be postmaster at Lake Villa, Ill., in Wilbur K. Sloan to be postmaster at Swedesboro, N. J., in place of H. I. Miller. Incumbent's commission expired 1\iarch place of J. J. Davidson, resigned. 16,1921. John H. Stegmann to be postmaster at \Vestwood, N. J., in l\larcus Gerbrick to be postmaster at Stamford, Ill. Office place of W. H. Stagg. Incumbent's commission expired June 27, became presidential January 1, 1921. 1920. Howard A. Hammer to be postmaster at Buda, Ill., in place NEW YORK. of J. D. Brady. Incumbent's commission expired Au'gust 17, Richard Bullwinkle to be postmaster at Central Valley, N. Y., 1921. in place of F. J. Nearn. Incumbent's commission expired June Harold J. Henderson to be postmaster at Raymond, Ill.. in 27, 1920. place of A. R. Gorman. Incumbent's commission expired Jan Fred B. King to be postmaster at Gloversville, N. Y., in place . ~Iary 8, 1921. of J. B. Judson. Incumbent's commission expires January 24, INDIANA. 1922. Dudley C. Engle to be postmaster at Albany, Ind.,. in place George Hubbard to be postmaster at West Coxsackie, N. Y., in of C. L. Wood. Incumbent's commission expired July 21, 1921. place of W. B. Townsend, deceased. Harvey C. Hyer to be postmaster at Eaton, Ind., in place of Charles H. Whitson to be postmaster at Briarcliff l\lanor, 0. .J. Chapman. Incumbent's commission expired July 21, X. Y., in place of C. H. Whitson. Incumbent's commission ex- 1921. . pired Uarcll 16, 1921. · Prince A. Edwards to be postmaster at South Whitley, Ind., John T. Rodger to be postmaster at Hammond, N.Y., in place in place of ,V. B. Fox. Incumbent's commission expired Jnly of L. R. Smith. Incumbent's commission expired March 2:2, 21, 1021. 1920. IOWA. NORTH CABO LIN A. .Tohn R. Barker to l>e postmaster at Indianola, Iowa, in place Pearle R. Luttrell to be postmaster at Shulls l\lills, N. C . of C. L. Price~ Incumbent's commission expired August 7, 1921. Office became presidential April 1, 1920. William A. Goodwin to be postmaster at West Durham, N.C., KANSAS. in place- of J. H. Bowen. Incumbent's eommission....expired July Walter Holman to be postmaster at Sharon, Kans. Office 21, 1921. became presidential April 1, 1921. OHIO. Maud Aten to be postmaster at Goodland, Kans., in place of 'Vil1iam 'Valker, jr. Incumbent's commission expired July 23, French Crow to be postmaster at Marion, Ohio, in place of 1921. F. F. Campbell. . Incumbent's commission expires January 31, MARYLAND. 1922. Earl Augustine to be postmaster at l\fontpelie1:, Ohio, in place Benjamin F. Woelper, jr., to be postmaster at Baltimore, 1\Id., of B. E. Coster. Incumbent'fi commission expired July 21, 1921. in place of Sherlock Swann. Incumbent's commission expired Allison E. Augenstein to be postmaster at Napoleon, Ohio, August 7, 1921. in place of D. C. Brown. Incumbent's commission expired Jan MASSACHL"SETTS. nary 31, 1922. L. \V. King to be postmaster at East TauntOfl, Mas.·., in place OKLA.HOliA. of \V. J. Campbell. Incumbent's commission expired Januar~· Milton F. Gaylor to be postmaster at Slick, Okla. Office be 24, 1922. came presidential October 1, 1920. Donald A. MacDonald to be postmaster at l\littineague, Mass., l\Iartin Baswell to be postmaster at Poteau, Okla., in place of in place of .J. J. Mahoney. Incumpent's commission expired A. L. Andrews. Incumbent's commission expired December 16, July 17, 1921. 1919'. MICHIGAN. William G. Pardoe, jr., to be postmaster at Stroud, Okla.,- in Perry F. Powers to be postmaster at Cadillac, Mich., in place place of D. V. Burton, Tesigl_led. of F. 0. Gaffney, deceased. OREGON. Robert H. Benjamin to be postmaster at Mackinac Island, Reber G. Allen to be postmaster at SilYerton, Oreg., in place Mich., in place of .J. n. McCarty. Incumbent's commission ex of J. H. Brooks, resigned. pired July 11, 1920. PENNSYLVANIA.. MINNESOTA. Albert E. Franklin to be postmaster at Sutersville, Pa. Office' Edward M. La li~ond to be postmaster at Little Falls, Minn., became presidential July 1; 1920. · · in place of S. P. Brick. Incumbent's commission expired August James A. Mayoun to be postmaster at Dingmans Ferry, Pa. 7, 1921. ' . Office became presidential April 1, 1921. · .. '1584 OONGR.ESSION AL RECORD-SENATE. JANUARY 23, Elmer P. llicl1ards to be postmaster at Easton, Pa., in place Lillian S. Pascoe to be postmaster at Sunrise, Wyo., in place of Horace Lehr, re igned. of L. S. Pascoe. Incumbent's commission expired July 21, 1921. Benjamin F. Evans to be postJ;uaster at Hopewell, Pa., in place Charles :M. Hett to be postmaster at Thermopolis, Wyo., in of B. li'. -Evans. Incumbent's commission expired August 7, 1921. place of G. J. Gay, resigJled. Frank H. Shenck to be postmaster at Landisville, Pa., in place of F. H. Shenck. Incumbent's commission expired August CONFIRl\fATIONg; 7, 1921. Ea:ecutii:e nom·inations confit·med by the Senate Januanj 123, Raymond J. Fisller to be postmaster at Robesonia, Pa., in 1922. . place of H. F. Moyer. Incumbent's commission expired January ~ 1921. . . AssrsT.AJ.""\'T TREAsURER OF a:HE U ~ rTED STA-TES. John L. Chapman to be postmaster at Blue Ridge Summit, Pa., Frank J. F. '.rhiel, to be Assistant Treasurer of tb.e United in ptace of C. S. Gardner. Incumbent's commission -expired An- States. . gust 7, 1921. · DEPUTY ASSISTANT TREASURER OF THE UNITED STATES. Charles N. Thompson to be postmaster at Buck Hill Falls, Pa., in place of C. N. Thorup on. Incumbent's commi sion ex H. Theodore Tate to be Deputy Assistant Treasurer of the pired August 7, 1921. United States. REGISTER OF THE TREASURY. SOUTH DAKOTA• . Clarence .J. Cmtin to be postmaster at Emery, S. Dak.., in Harley V. Speelman to be Register of the Treasury. place of B. E. Schroeder, resigned. REGISTERS OF THE LAND OFFICE. TENNESSEE. Fred A. Motz to be register of the land office, Helen.u, Mont. Mabel W. Hughes to be postmaster at Arlington, Tenn. Office Joseph Lytle to be register of the land office, -Newcastle, Wyo. became pre idential October 1, 1920. RECEIVER OF PUBLIC MONEYS. TEXAS. , Matthew C. Roberts to ·be receiTer of public moneys, at New· Clarence V. Rattan to be postmaster at Cooper, Tex., in pl~ce castle, Wyo. of J. T. Rountree. Incumbent's commission expired June 30, PROMOTIONS IN THE ARMY. 1920. QUA.BTER.MASTER CORPS. Florence B. Burke to be .postmaster at Elgin, Tex., in place of To be captai.n. J. W. Jackson. Incumbent's commission expired December Edward Eccles. 20, 1920. CORPS OF ENGli~EEBS. Jerra L. Hickson to be postmaster at Gainesville, Tex., in place of B. F. Mitchell. Incumbent's commission expired July To "be captains. 21, 1921. Russel MeKee Herrington. Simon J. Enochs to be postmaster at Georgetown, Tex., in John :Mead Silkman. place of J. ,V. Roche. Incumbent's commission expired Decem ORDNANCE DEPARTMENT. ber 20, 1920. To 1Je captai1~s. Alonzo Phillips to be postma ter at Loraine, Tex., in place I Duncan Gregor McGregor. of .A.. :M. Erwin, resigned. · John Kay Christmas. .Alphonse .A. Bast to he .PO· tmaster at Robstown, Tex., in ' plnce of T. A. Stafford. Incumbent's commission expired July I To be first lieute·nants. 21. 1921. Harrison Shaler. David Horn Whittier. Wade Arnold to be postmaster at Wellington, Tex., in ·place John William Slattery. Rene Raimond Studr-er. of J. 0. Wood: Incumbent's commission expired August 7, 1.920. I~FANTRY. Ruby E. Butler to be postmaster af Odem, Tex. Office became To 1Je captains. pre!'idential April 1, 1921. Alexander Hill Cummings. UTAH.' James A. Summersett, jr. Jo. eph F. MacKnight to be postmaster at Price, Utah., in place of W. F.' Olson. Incumbent's commission expired January FIELD .ARTILLERY. To be 1najor. I V1 1920. '"'ERMO~T. William Rudicil Henry. Walter A. Amsden to be postmaster at Proctorsville, Vt., in To be captaim,. place of S. E. Emery, deceased. Walter Moody Tenney. nBGINIA. CHEMICAL W A.BF ARE ERVICE. Edmund .s. Hooker to .be postmaster at Nokesville, Va., in To be captains. place of A. K. Graybill. incumbent's commission expired De Julius Conrad Tips, jr. John Sharpe Griffith. cember 20, 1920. John James Baker. Pio Quevedo Caluya. W ASHING_TON. James Goodwin Hall. George Work Marvin. Eugene J. Edson to be postmaster at Coulee, Wash., in place George Louis Boyle. William Wallace Robertson. of E. J. Edson. Incumbent's commission -expired January 19, Robert Brice Johnston. William Peyton Campbell. 1920. - Victor Friedrichs. Harry Starkey Aldrich. Harry L. Bras to be postmaster at Centralia, Wash., in place Paul Ainsworth Berkey. Hugh Perry Adams. ofT. H. McCleary. Incumbent's c~mmission expired January 5, Robert 'Clyde Padley. Cecil Elm01·e Archer. 1920. Donald Boyer Phillips. Thomas Edwar,d Moore. Ralph L. Philbrick to be postmaster at Hoquiam, Wash., in Albert Ruth. Robert Du Val Waring. place of C. A. Morgan. Incumbent's commission expired July Robert Edward Robillard. Joseph George Nathanson. 15, 1920. Donald :UicKechnie Ashton. Stephen Yates l\-lcGiffert. WEST VIRGIJS"IA.. Dana Gray ~.l'cBride. Louis Meline Merrick. J"uan Rosales Labrador. Le Roy Ponton de A.rce. Elmer E. Hood to be postmaster at Keyser (late Coulee City), Edward Alfred Mueller. Lee Roy 'Voods, jr. w. va. in place of P. H. Keys, resigned. Robert W iII i a m Cal>ert Rox Hunter Donaldson. Calvin F. Brown to be postmaster at Harrisville, W. Va., in Wimsatt. Dudley Warren Watkins. place of B. F. Patton. Incumbent's commission expired July Amado Martelino. Arthur Nathaniel Willis. 21, 1921. Victor Z. Gomez. Lyman Perley Whitten. WISCOXSIN. David Theodore RosenthaL Lawrence William Kinney. • Elmer 0. Trickey to be postmaster at Vesper, Wis. Office Clayton Huddle Studebaker. Ray Henry Clark. became pre idential April 1, 1921. Albert James "Wick. Homer Wilbur Fergu on. Wallace hl. Comstock to be postmaster at Oconto, Wis., in J"oseph Brenner. . Earl Albert Hutchin"" ·. plac-e of P. A. Badour. Incumbent's commission expired De Raymond Taylor Tompkins. Cecil Byron Jamieson. cemher 17, 1910. George Alfred Arnold .Tones. Lindon John Murphy. WYOMING. George Evans Bm·ritt. William Bradford PJununer. Ivor Christensen to be postmaster at Hanna, Wyo., in place William Madison Mack. · Clifford Oscar Webster. of M. E. l\Iitchell, appointee declined. Robert Crane Hendley. Howaril Criswell. Henry H. Franct~ to be postmaster at Jackson, Wyo., in plac~ Walter J. Klepinger. James Richmond Simpson. of W. C. De Loney, appointee declined. Grady Da>id Epps. Philip Schwartz. • 1922. CONGR.ESSIONAL RECORD-· HOUSE. 1585 - John Otis Hyatt. Richard Bro\Yn Thornton. Nellie L. Miller, Rulo: Frank Charles McConnell. Pacifico C. Sevilla. August Dormann, Scottsbluff. Dale Phillip Mason. Charles Nicholas Senn Ballou. NORTH CAR OLIN A, Donald Fowler Fritch. John Cyril Delaney. Samuel B. Edwards, Tryon. Nemesio-Catalen. Samuel Rubin. Clyde H. Jarrett, Andrews. James Madison Callicutt. Donald Wallace Norwood. Albert Raymond Nolin. Waldon Sharp Lewis. OHIO. Reginalil Pond Lyman. Andrew Julius Evans. George P. Phillips, Fayette. James Stuart Walllngford. Paul Corson Howe. Richard Hagel, Gypsum. Albert Sidney Howell, jr. James Fairbank Smith. SOUTH CAROLINA. To be first lieutenant.<;. John B. Bagnal, Ellenton. James Myron McMillin. Henry R. Williams, Hardeeville. Versalious Lafa~ette Knadler. David S. Pitman, Nichols. DENTAL CORPS. SOUT:Et DAKOTA. To be captains~ Orrin ,V, Dingman, Centerville. Arthur Benedict McCormick. Glenn H. Auld, Plankinton. Clarence Constantin Olson. Paul F. W. Knappe, Tripp. TEXAS, YETERINA.BY CORPS. Elmer B. McCully, Paint Rock. To be fit·st lieutenant. Lillie Brown, Ralls. James Lew Barringer. VKRMONT. TO BE CHAI'LAIN. Carrie E. Sturtevant, East Fairfield. With t·an~· of captain. Charles Olivelr Purdy. PROMOTIONS INI THE NAVY. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. MARINE CORPS. To be colonel. MoNDAY, Janua1y ~3, 19~~. Frederic l!. Wise. The House met at 12 o'clock noon. To be lieutenant cownel. The Chaplain, Rev. James Shera Montgomery, D. D., offere-d the following prayer : _ Raymond B. Sullivan. To be majors~ Our Father in heaven, Thou dost guard us \vith infinite care and solicitude. May we make response to Thy divine goodness Edward M. Reno. James 1_1, Rei Thomas J. Kilcourse. John T. Thornton. ORDER OF BUSir..~SS. Frank H. Fleer. Edward Selby. Irving EJ. Odgers. William D. Ba ·sett. Mr. WOOD of Indiana. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House Thomas H. Raymond. Cyril W. Martyr. resolYe itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the Harry. E. Darr; Frank S. Gilman. state of the Union for the further consideration of H. R. 9981, Elmer E. Leibensperger. Ogbourne, A. Hill. the independent offices appropriation bill. Francis Kane. Melvin E. Fu1le1r. 1\Ir. FOCHT. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. . James J'. Brennan. Harmon J~ Norton. Lester E. Power. Mr. FOCHT. I should like to inquire of- the Chair the status of Dis_trict of Columbia day? •As this day is set apart under POSTMASTERS~ the rules for the consideration of bills from the Committee on GEORGIA. the District of Columbia, I would like to know when an oppor Ertha- Garner, Buford. tunity will be given for the consideration of District of Co Christine P. Hankinson, McDonough. lumbia business? George W. J'ordan, Whigham. The SPEAKER. If the House· should vote down the propo sition to go into the Committee of the Whole House on the state ILLINOIS. of the Union for the consideration of the appropriation bill; in Bessie McTamaney, Fort Sheridan. other words, if the House should prefer to consider District KANSAS. business, then it would be in order to take up District busi Albert B. Ewing, Eldorado. - ness. KENTlJ"CKY. Mr. FOCHT. Following the consideration of the appropria tion bill? Arch Mooney, Dixon. The SPEAKER. Immediately, if the House should vote down . Charles L. Loyd, Fredonia. the motion to go into the Comltlittee of the Whole House on the Mary F. Gilmour, Owensboro. state of the Union. Lillie l\f. Pulliam, Patesville. 1\fr. MONDELL. Mr. Speaker, if I may be allowed, there is William C. Barnwell, Smithland. no disposition to neglect the Distl'ict of Columbia business. NEBRASKA., On the other hand, there is an earnest desire to consider Dis Chancey J. Sittler, Anselmo. trict business; but it is highly important that we should con Harry N. Wallace, Coleridge. tinue our program for the consideration of appropriation bills. Fred A. Scofield, Columbus. I hope that within a reasonable time we may be able to afford. Freitheof 0. Carlson, Craig, an opportunity for the consideration of District business. Fred C. Easley, Dunbar. 1\Ir. FOCHT. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the importance of Orley D. Olements, Elmwood. appropriation bills. At the same time there is a strong desire Fny E. Davis, Hershey. and an urgent necessity for the passage of legislation pertain· Howard L. Sergeant, Juniata. ing to the District of Columbia, particularly on account of the Alonzo A. Jackman, Louisville. congestion here during the past feW' years. Edward H. Hering, Orchard. Mr. BLANTON. Mr. Speaker, I make a point of order. Roy N. Overgard, Plymouth. The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it.