The Other Press Volume 9 Issue 5 Douglas College's Autonomous Student Newspaper C.F:.s. What's the future by John McDonald The Douglas College Stu­ A petition originally calling The D.C.S .S. executive the somewhat distorted ap­ Treasurer Shelly Zwarich dent Society (D.C.S.S.) must for withdraw! from CFS and were divided on a firm com­ proach of the prevailing gov-. noted the economic benefits hold a referendum to decide diversion of fees to the athlet­ mitment to CFS. ernment towards education, of the student services, but on continued student partici­ ics department was rejected "If more immediate results it's vital that students have an wasn't sure of the political pation in tile .Canadian Feder­ on a technicality. A scaled­ were shown, perhaps it would organized defense against the effectiveness of CFS . " Politic­ ation ot Students (C.F.S.). down version calling for im­ be a good thing to continue assault on education. Besides ally, we have a lobby group However the referendum, mediate withdraw! from CFS with," said secretary Wayne providing defense, CFS ser­ that is rated 40 out of 43 - caused by a hundred-name to be decided at a special Schmuland. "Right now they ves to educate the public as to we're at the bottom. We need petition generated from with­ general meeting was present­ (CFS) are pushing past victor­ the depth of the problem and more money to be effective in in the athletics department, ed instead. ies - to me past victories are the desperate need for a more lobbying our interests." has apparently lost support. CFS, a political lobbying useless. I want to know liberal education policy." Zwarich said that athletics "I simply supported it be­ group formed in 1981 has a what's happening now." Glavin agreed that athletics are important but added cause it was going to get us a current membership of 64 However, president was underfunded, but sug­ "other facultys need that few extra bucks," said student associations across Michael Glavin remains firm­ gested that fundraising so­ money as well ." Athletic Director Betty Lou Canada and claims to repre­ ly committed to CFS. "When cials and increased assistance The campus-wide referen­ Hayes, "but it's more import­ sent 450,000 students. CFS you've got a political climate from the D.C.S.S. could allev­ dum is scheduled for January ant to me to be on good terms provides a number of services in B.C. and federally, with iate the problem. 1986. with the student society.'' to member students including Hayes said that the student Travel Cuts and the Student behind the petition was no Saver card. longer at Douglas. A random The student society pays sampling of students in the $3.75 per student to CFS Odds and Sods athletics area couldn't find which totals up to between The most controversial item one person who had signed $12,000 and $13,000 per sem­ the petition or had. heard of it. ester. on the agenda at the Nov . 4 senate meeting turned out to be the last. Moved by vice-president Elections coming Susan Woods, the motion asked that a $10 per day " stipend" be given to all by Jeremy Bloom shown . They're very indecis­ D.C.S.S. conference dele­ Municipal elections are ive. They love committee re­ gates. coming up on Nov . 16. They ports and staff reports, tend The motion was immediatl­ don't inspire as much hoopla to put off decisions as long as ey opposed by Marge as Federal and Provincial con­ possible. When they do make Fartaczek, a U.T. Rep and tests, and are even thought of a decision, its usually a knee­ member of the F.A.S.T slate as dull by some, but this vote jerk reaction rather than a on the senate. She pointed could seriously affect the sol uti on ." out that food, shelter, trans­ course of the cities in which Both have quite a bit of portation and delegate fees we live for the next few years. leadership experience, on the were completely provided and One of the better kept student level, and the civic cited her experience at many secrets of the election is the level . Bell was one of the CFS conferences and that fact that several Douglas Col­ founders of the Capitano "you can easily survive." lege faces, past and present, Courier, president of the Speaking for the motion, 0 are taking a stab at Alder­ Capilano College Student Woods said that "the food is Marg Fartaczeck Susan Woods man's seats. Bill Bell, head of Society, and editor of the just terrible." She pointed out - D.C.'s Public Information Delta Optimist, and has writ­ that ''we miss classes to go to take advantage of the newly­ leges had to be revised when Office, is running in North ten extensively for the North these conferences," and that passed motion due to the UT rep. Fartazcek pointed out Vancouver; Kevin Halgate, a Shore News. He's done a lot ''after working around the requirement of carried mot­ that any expenditure over former student senate presi­ of work for the NDP - has clock till 3:00 in the morning ions to be ratified at the next $3,000 had to be approved at dent, is running in Delta; and been a local campaign man­ its nice to go get a pizza or senate meeting before coming an Annual General Meeting. Shayne Kennedy, who served ager, served as media liason some real food." into effect. President Glavin immediately as treasurer last year, is for Bob Skelly's leadership withdrew the original motion bid, and sits on several NDP Although Woods, and In other senate news, a and changed it to read $3,000. running in Burnaby. senate members Krista Muri motion calling for the setting Although we were unable committees, as well as civic The motion was then carried. grouos. and AI Russell were due to aside of $3,500 dollars for a to reach Kennedy at press leave for a week long confer­ professional survey on public continued on p. 2. time, both Halgate and Bell Continued on p. 2. ence, they will be unable to awareness of community col- were happy to share some of their views on the upcoming election . Although they come from .o,0 ,~ ,~ different areas of the political ~~ ~ ~· ,~ spectrum, (Bell is NDP, ~ ~¢o· ~· ,~ ~ Halgate "Leans toward the ·e~ ~· Conservatives"), they both ~~0 ~~e e~~ ~<>o· :o.~ ~ have similar reasons for run­ .~~e; ning. Bell sees lack of civic ~e~ ·# ~,~ ~/ leadership as one of his big­ ,~~ C:J~o ~~e ~~~ gest reasons for running. ~e'- ~v: o~ ~ Halgate agrees, saying he is ~ "very unhappy with the lack \>e~ of direction council has - Page 2 No9en:tbert U. -1985"

Vancouver [CUP] - The membersholders and for the province The ministry's policy Beware vices Act, which defines "res- Callaghan ruled the Min- British Columbia Supreme as a whole," said Lisa Price, change under the lmmigrat- ident" as any person who has ister has the power to make Court recently upheld the organizer for the Simon ion Act said visa holders lived in the province at least the decision. provincial health ministry's Fraser Teacher Support Staff would no longer be consider- one year. The ruling means 4000 visa move to exclude visa students Union. ed residents under the Medi- However, Justice Callaghan students will have to seek and workers from B.C.'s Until this fall, foreign stu­ cal Services Act. said the principle issue was private medical insurance at health insurance plan. dents who had lived in B.C. The union argued the policy not the interpretation of the double the cost, . or about But visa holders and a for at least one year were change was illegal because it word resident but the jurisdic- $400 a year to~ singles . . support staff union at Simon eligible for medical coverage Fraser University will appeal under the province's health the decision. plan. In July, the health "We think there are ministry decided it would no $ grounds for appeal. This is an longer be responsible for for­ $W8 SegoQhf"]3Ucks important issue both for our. eign students. Victoria [CUP] - Eighteen former president of the facul- Oct. 28 senate meeting in­ students from rural British ty association, says attitudes rural grants fund has raised can't from Page 1 · clude a resolve to ask senate Columbia have each received towards education are just $19,000 in donations from 75 members Marie Andre $1000 bursaries from a special starting to change in rural faculty members. The board The Douglas East Indian Bourassa and Brad Clark to fund organized by the faculty areas and universities should of governors ~as agreed to Student Association (DEISA) resign due to a violation of association to attend the Uni- encourage this trend. match funds ra1sed dollar for received approval of their attendance requirements. versity of Victoria. The faculty association dollar. charter application in a near­ As well Social Science Rep . The new programme, an issue in this election. ly-unanimous vote. AI Larry Fairfoull was appointed financed through grants from Continued from p. 1. "Unless recycling is looked at Russell, who voted against chair of this years "Booze individual faculty members, as a serious option," Bell the motion had no ''com­ Cruise" committee. His suc­ was set up to encourage says, "in the next few years ment" on his reason . cessful planning of last years students from rural areas to Halgate served an unprece- there will be a massive gar- A motion giving sponsoring "cruise" was the deciding attend university. To be elig- dented 3 terms as president bage problem in the lower groups up to 100 per cent of factor. ible, students must live at of Douglas, and is still in mainland." the proceeds from a pub night The final figures for least 30 miles from Vancouver touch with people here at the Both Bell and Halgate are squeaked past 6-5 and was "Fami-ne Relief Week" were or Victoria, demonstrate fin- college. He ran for school running on slates of candi­ then struck down when Presi­ presented to the senate. Tre­ ancial need, and show aca- board last year, coming with- dates~ with broad-based com­ dent Glavin, concerned about asurer Shelley Zwarich said demic merit. in 53 votes of winning. He is munity support. Both feel the narrow margin of victory, that $404.00 was raised, after In 1983/84, 17 per cent of currently the vice president of their chances are good, al­ moved to table the motion expenses, which will be do­ high school graduates from the Delta Voters Association, though Bell notes "It's ai­ until the next meeting. nated to UNICEF. Victoria and Vancouver chose and Chairman of the Don't ways hard to knock out an Current D .C.S .S. policy $1,000, in the form of two to attend university, com- Dump on Delta Committee, a incumbent." call for fifty per cent $500 grants was given to the pared to only seven per cent group which is fighting to Hal gate adds "I hope proceeds from socials and pub non-profit Humanities Insti­ of students from rural high keep a Delta environmental people get out and vote - It's nights to be · returned to tute for their continued work schools . area from being turned into a sad that only thirty per cent of D.C.S .S. coffers . as an independent institution landfill. eligible voters determine the Ratified motions from the on campus. Bill Pfaffenberger, the Bell also sees garbage as fate of entire communities." 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- Member of CLS, DOABC & Better Business Bureau (PUBLIC SER\' ICE MESSAGE BROUGHT 10 YOU BY BAUSCH & LOMB CANADA INC.l The Other Press ~ .. '• November 12, 1985 page 3 Need Vancouver [CUP] - There are As well, employees will be ester system are I ittle better mer. ance at the fair will likely so many summer jobs avail­ able to wear, and keep what a off than the people on the drop off after August so a lot able at EXPO '86 that the press release called "elegant term system ." " We anticipate there will of students will probably still world's fair is already com­ uniforms created by Canada's be a large pool of returning get jobs. peting with Pavillions at the celebrated fashion designer, The EXPO '86 corporation, students among the appli­ And rather than competing site to attract employees. Alfred Sung." meanwhile,· is compiling a cants, " said John Evans, the for employees, Evans said, But because the federal Unlike EXPO, subsidised data bank of those qualified manager of recruiting and " we expect the competition jobs are only for those who housing, probably at brand for the 15,000 other jobs employment for the EXPO '86 for the jobs will be quite can stay through mid-Octo­ new condominiums close to available at EXPO this sum- corporation . He said attend- stiff." ber, returning university stu­ the University of British dents won't get 'em. The federal government's columbia,willbeavailabletoanyone who needs it. NO lllOfe Cas.h! Canada Pavillion is offering "We' ll pay the majority of. higher wages than EXPO, de­ the rent," said Jackson. , signer ulltforms, and sub­ Canada Pavillion will even Ottawa [CUP] _ The federa 1 questions relating to educat­ million grant to universities sidised housing to prospective pay for return travel costs for government and the provinces ion ." last week. But Richardson employees. our of to~n staff who s~ay f<;>r . used National Universities Ontario' s finance ministry said " If we put in new money Although almost 5000 the durat1on of the fa1r sa1d Week last week to blame each estimates transfer payment · and they (federal govern­ people have already applied Jackson· . . other for the country's impov- cuts, announced at a closed ment) cut, then we're just for the 451 available jobs at But Can.ada Pav1ll1on on!y erished institutes of higher meeting of finance ministers keeping things at the status Canada Place officials there 1 wants to ~1re people who w~ll learning. in September, will cost the quo level. " still say they'll have a tough W?rk until EXPO, closes . 1n When NDP education critic province $750 million a year time finding workers. m1d-October. They re offenng Howard McCurdy (Windsor­ by 1990. And Bob Referring to the $50 million Barry Jackson, personnel a cash bonus to any staff who Walkerville) asked Secretary Richardson, an aide to On­ grant to universities in On­ director for the pavillion, said stay for the full term of of State Benoit Bouchard how tario's colleges and univers­ tario, Liberal MP David with EXPO hiring 15,000 employment. $ b'l-1' · 1 d t f Berger (Laurier) asked in the "The dates of EXPO are 6 1 1on m p anne rans er ities minister Greg Sorbara, people ' 'we have to offer a House last week "is the difficult on student terms " payment cuts for health and said if the cuts mean educat­ com pet at i v.e package ion quality goes down, it will Government of Canada will­ Jackson refused to disclose said Jackson . Because pav'il- education would ~ffect ..col­ ing to do its share to correct lion officials expect the vol- leges and . u,~lvers1t1es, be the federal government' s the salaries but said "I can fault. the chronic problem of univer­ 3.ssure you that our scale is ume of tourists to remain Bouchard sa1d, I am sure "Education comes under sity under-funding?" verv verv good." constant through September (McCurdy) can understand Julie Ovenell, Canada and October, they need staff my relu~ance to co~m~nt on provincial jurisdiction but the Bouchard said " We make Pavillion public relations of­ who will stay, he said. the.qual1ty o! education m the money comes from the federal the transfer payments to the ficer, said the salaries are "A number of students va.nou.s provmces, !?r I do not government,'' Richardson provinces, and they make the said. " So any cut is going to decisions. We cannot guaran­ ''much more generous than indicated they see working to thl,~k 1t IS my role .. EXPO salaries.. They'll be in completion as a possibility," I am qUI~e conf1dent th~~ affect the quality of educat­ tee, as the federal govern­ 1000-plus range." he said. "People on the sem- the matter ~ill be res.olved, ion ." ment, that these funds will be Bouchard sa1d, "as will other Sorbara announced a $50 increased or reduced ." .CUR$E$ No n1ore 65! ! by Sandra Glass Ottawa [CUP] - The govern­ "I suspect that the honour­ group says . Whether or not theatre pro­ The Theatre Dept. has set ment of Canada should write able member will not be The Ontario Confederation ductions should be run as up a table for advanced ticket laws soon to abolish all forms surprised to learn that I am of University Faculty Asso­ business ventures is a dilem­ sales on the concourse level of discrimination or the coun­ against any kind of discrimi­ ciations (OCUF A) says $30 ma that has faced producers and will be showing video try' s courts will be tied up nation whatsoever, " million is the amount of for decades. Gordon G iII gan, tapes of previous productions with hundreds of long and Mulroney said. money that would be .earned Dean of Academic Studies as well as scenes from " The expensive challenges under Reine Degarie, a public by the 287 professors and provided Dorothy Jones, Curse" . the Charter of Rights, says a relations officer for the com­ librarians due to retire over Director/ Producer, of "The The marketing students will Pari iamentary committee. mittee, said the committee the next three years . Curse of the Werewolf" , with receive class credit for their This is good news for uni­ wants laws eliminating all A test case challenging an innovative solution. participation as well as com­ versity professors, who are forms of discrimination - and mandatory retirement is now Jones will be working with peting for a cash prize donat­ fighting in Ontario and fast. before the courts and is ex­ Walter Pickering and his ed by the Theatre Dept. for Alberta for an end to manda­ "If they don't make laws, pected to reach the Canadian marketing students to pro­ the highest individual sale of tory retirement. all these (discrimination) Supreme Court in three years. mote ticket sales for " The tickets. cases will have to be argued If the case (involving three Curse". Pickering recently The combined efforts of the Most universities outside of· in court, which will take up an York University professors) is gave theatre students a semi­ marketing and theatre stu­ Manitoba and Quebec require enormous amount of time and successful and all 287 em­ nar on sales techniques . "The dents should make it impos­ professors to retire at age 65 . cost a huge amount of ployees file claims, OCUFA key is to make people realize sible for anyone to resist In its re~rt to parliament money," Degarie said. says the universities could be that they need theatre," said supporting the at t · of Doug­ Oct. 25, tfle Committee on Meanwhile, Ontario univer­ out of a lot of money. Pickering. las College. Equality Rights suggested sities may have to pay nearly Claims filed in other prov­ mandatory retirement be a- $30 million in damages if they inces, including one by an bolished in favour of flexible or the provincial government Alberta history professor, retirement. " Fixed date re- don 't move to abolish manda­ would increase the $30 million Sayonara Bill. tirement at age 65 offends the tory retirement, a professors total . prohibition of age discrimi- :-r.==;:;;~~~ji;;~f======n nation contained in Section 15 11 by Sandra Glass sacred arts of servility and of the Charter," said the Geisha girls bearing a gift modesty. These three young committee in a report sum­ of plum wine bade Bill Day maidens presented Day and mary. and Gordon Gillgan a fond 'Gillgan with an unexpected farewell as they departed on a array of delights to help make Responding to a question quest for academic redis­ their journey more pleasant. from Svend Robinson (NDP - Word Processing Services covery in the mysterious far Wine, music, and much Burnaby) on the report in the east. merriment accompanied the House of Commons Oct. 28, Resumes , Term Papers, Dorothy Jones, head of the ancient tea serving ritual. Prime Minister Brian Theses, Technical Reports Theatre Dept. , instructed two Day and Gillgan may fino Mulroney said the govern­ !.etten of her first year theatre stu­ the transition to "Japanese" ment will respond to the dents, Tracy Eisner and Anna much easier after Jones and report at a reasonable short ; Call 584-8434 - ·Marie F. Stricker, in the Co's orientation . moment. ~ .. ~ · The Other Press .. CSIS tactics Used onUB,C staff .:

Vancouver [CUP] - Thirteen are assigned to clean is allot­ and Associates . hundred clerical and library ted a specific time in minutes · Gellatly said he was not workers at the University of and seconds. If they can't aware of other companies B.C. will work to rule from meet the requirements they with the same expertise, des- now on to show the university must explain why on their . pite the presence of several their work can 't be done at own t1me . management consulting as­ the speed Ritchie and Associ- " You go into a room and sociations in Canada and the ates demands. it' s a mess but the computer United States . The California-based man- has only given you 50 seconds Trevor Matthews, vice agement consultant firm has to clean it," said one custo­ president administrator of been hired by UBC and the dial employee, who would not UVic said Ritchie and Associ­ University of Victoria to make give her name for fear of ates came recommended by a staff more cost-efficient. reprisals. number of companies whose The firm has been shadow- " By the time you finish the names he couldn't remember ing no~cademic staff with sinks, time is up and you still off hand . : stop-watches for about six have eight toilets to do." Simon Fraser University is months, and union officials " Not one woman has got a conducting an internal review say it' s causing stress-related hundred per cent .of the job which Ernie Scott, vice pres­ illnesses. · done, " she said. ident finance, says will cost " Our workers know their According to a un ion offic- much less than the UBC and (time allocation) figures ial at UBC, the university has UVic reviews. aren't accurate, because they already paid the firm $1.4 In a September memo to can 't work to that pace, " said million and only one of the the university community, Ted Byrne, union official for original twelve contracts has Smith said, "Ritchie' s fees the Canadian University Em- been completed. Acting UBC are a fixed amount" but wholesale layoffs to keep their Ritchie and Associates do ployees at UBC. president Robert Smith said added, " the contract also end of the bargain. not belong to ACME. Larry " Because of budget cuts the firm may be given addit­ specifies that Ritchie guaran­ The constitution of the As­ Zamer, project chief for and employees who have re- ional contracts as well . tees the University will re­ sociation of Consulting Man­ Ritchie, would not explain tired, we believe people are Lynn Copeland, a librarian­ coup in the first year follow­ agement Engineers (ACME), why they don 't belong, nor working beyond capacity al- analyst at UBC's library pro­ ing the system installation, the premier association of would he comment on the ready," he said. cessing centre, said the effect savings at least equal to their consulting groups, states· illnesses employees are ex­ The faculty association re- on staff in her department is fees ." members, " will not guarentee periencing. He said it is cently passed a motion de- " terrible". Gellatly said he is satisfied any specific result such as an company policy not to discuss manding the administration " The best staff are getting the contract will prevent the amount of cost reduction or their business with the press . reconsider the use of the physically sick from the stress experts from recommending profit increase." consultants and " consider the of dealing with these long term damage their activ- people," she said, adding ities are causing to the morale some people are spending as of all the employees at the liitle as one hour a day on university." their regular work, devoting The faculty passed the the remaining time to dealing ContraceptiVes for men? motion after learning of the with the consultants. work conditions imposed on Copeland said Ritchie and Ottawa [CUP] - A researcher ing alternatives to female However, society now expects cleaning staff at the univers- Associates has no previous at the University of Western contraception . The federal women to bear the burden ity. library experience and is ne- Ontario is trying to develop government's 75 per cent cut of reproductive repoosibility, When the custodians report glecting the real requirements an acceptable, non-toxic to the Canadian Committee she said. for work each morning they of a library. chemical contraceptive for on Fertility Research earlier While research on male are issued a computer print- Neither university request­ men . this year indicates a lack of contraception continues in out which details their work ed bids from other consulting A small molecule of 1,2,3, - concern about improving con­ several centres, the public .!2~!.~!;... ~.~~~-~~~.b ... r.~.T.... !..~~Y..... !~!!l.:..... ?.~.!~~.~ .... ~.~~!~~ .... ~!!~.~!~ trihydroxypropane (THP) in­ traception for men, according will likely have to wait before jected into rats reduces sperm to Lynne Robson, an execu­ other forms of safe birth count by as much as 99 per tive director of Planned Par­ control are available for men . i cent and for as long as a year, enthood, a national family ' 'To date there is no effective says John Wiebe, a UWO planning and advocacy organ­ chemical male contracept­ zoology professor. Wiebe says ization. ive," Wiebe said. SEMINAR the remaining sperm, while Robson said while contra­ " Well, mustard gas is ef­ technically capable of fertiliz­ ception " used to be a male fective, but it would kill you . ing an egg, are " nonviable. concern, " women' s aware­ It must also be acceptable, " NARKE71N6~ This suggests complete infer­ ness of reproduction swung he said . tility." the pendulum the other way. Wiebe has not yet discover­ C0/1Ptl~fi!S IN . ed how the substance works, but has found that a tiny 711£ ~os injection in the testes of both rats and rabbits makes it S.A. BOYCOT! impossible for sperm cells to #?:· AJ~ #e,q~n develop, although other male Ottawa [CUP] - The Carleton more concerned about public r;.'" ~dl'm C~N3 maturation processes develop University student council awareness and we wanted to normally. In other words, it' s voted in mid-October to boy­ start with (the council ' s) fatherhood, not manhood cott South African products, help." /Yay ~~~ I.!)BS that' s affected, he said. even though they claim none The boycott does not in­ Wiebe said he will test the are presently sold in the clude beer brewed by Carling ;z:go -/:3opt.• .., substance on primates short­ council businesses. 0 ' Keefe because of an On­ ly, but has yet to schedule The vote came after a tario law which requires licen­ experiments with human vol­ successful lobby by the cam­ sed faci I ities to serve brands /'((){)AI 330~ unteers. While THP is non­ pus anti-apartheid group, most frequently requested. toxic, Wiebe says he doesn't which also intends to launch a According to Martin Doyle, ..Miery'OI'Ie yet know if the effects of the campus-wide petition on uni­ assistant director of housing tS tAJdCtJrnL/ substance are reversible. versity divestment. and food service at Carleton, ~/}ftVl"a " We don't have the answer " The product boycott is the Carling O' Keefe's Miller beer ?' yet," he said. least of it," said Paul Gross is the second most popular - ©ouGLAS (SOLLEGE {jiji)AAAE fiNG ~LUB Wiebe is one of the few of the Carleton Anti-Apart­ brand. researchers currently study- heid Action group. " We' re

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The DouglasQth~!omor.r"~~a~ College s Volume 19 Issue 1 Another Editorial...

We were right. We' ve talked to people all over Douglas College, and just as we said, nobody read last issue's editorial. Average Joe Students didn' t read it. Student Senate members didn't read it. Some Other Press staffers didn't read it. Why do we bother, then? We figure there must have been maybe fifteen of twenty people who read it. Hi folks! Hope you' re still with us! Now, what I want you to do- all fifteen of you - is each of you show this editorial to just one friend. Maybe they'll even show it to somebody, as well . This is a chain editorial, but you don't have to write anything, and I don't know if you' ll have bad luck if you don't do it . But you might have better luck if you do. Maybe the college will be a better place if you do. We were talking with some friends, and they said " Who cares about the Student Senate! Who even knows who they are? What a joke." Guess what folks - the jokes on you! This is assuming, of course, that the. fifteen people reading this are also the same fifteen people who voted in the senate election ... These people thought it would be funny to get somebody to run, and get The Other press all their friends to vote for him or her, ·and they'd win, of course, because fj~;:t ·.. ) Douglas College's Autonomous Student Newspaper you need a pitiful number of votes to win . And then they'd stand up at the ~~~~\:·- ~: ' ~- /1 senate meeting and say ' Hey idiots, I' m not going to serve, because this News/Production Coordinator ...... John McDo~ald organization is a joke.' Wouldn't that be great. Copy Editor ...... jeremy Bloom Well, wouldn't it be better if maybe, just maybe, you got your friend to Entertainment Coordinator ...... Kirstin Shaw run, or ran yourself, and got all your buddies to vote for you, so you got in, Sports Coordinator ...... Cynthia Kilt and then - sat on the senate and actually see to it that the do something!?! Business Manager ...... jean joyce How about that? It can happen you know. Even without the election - go to Galley Proofer/Graphics Coordinator ...... Doug Finnerty the senate and say, " Hey I think you should be doing this, or doing that and Typesetter ...... Jane Muskens. Office Coordinator ...... Suz Graham I'd like to help you do it! " Features Coordinator ...... ~ ...... Paul Ehni Granted, you might cause some heart attacks among unsuspecting senate Photo Coordinator ...... Dave Watson members. But you'd be amazed at the kind of positive results that could you Classifieds Coordinator ...... Pinky Hunjan could have. You' d feel better, the college would be better and odds are Recruitment Coordinator ...... Sandra Glass you' ll have a hell of a good time doing it. Contributors ...... Richard Haines, Paul Pilon, Doug Grondahl, larry. Fairfoull Think about it. Or don't. It's your choice.

these groups would not be to criticize events, social coordination, activity Qthel" -nnndence his or her counterpart in the senate room proposals, self study and an all ~p OCC. UP'/ TOP F'l.~ but to be a channel of information that club and association committee in Of UBAA~'f. corres1:'- the senate can feed off of to make operation, interactively participating decisions. with the senate. The responsibility of the students The plain truth about the student Yours truly who expect accountability and thelr society senate members is that they Christopher Lirette voices to be heard by Douglas College are not being paid for the time that Business Representative Student Society should form non-part­ they put in council; they do get a few san coalitions to formally present their meager benefits that, in my opinion, I would like to express my appreci­ ideas to the senate. are just to create a bit of unity ation to the Douglas College Student Formally, meaning identifying their between senate members. This incen­ Society, and particularly to Mike representative in council and present­ tive for motivation seats mostly in the Glavin and Susan Woods, also to lab ing them with a detailed proposal on members desire to help out the technician, Bob Hirtle (who initially an area of concern. Graphic pictures, student body as a whole in the best conceived the idea) for the Famine consumer reports, editorials and/ or fair way possible. Relief Week and Program. any information that might be perti­ There is real frustration for a Those who missed the Dennis Humphries talk lost a special oppor­ nent at hand, in the subject that they Senate member who cannot effective­ Graphic/The Muse wish to deal with. ly juggle their duties in Council and tunity of knowing firsthand about The reason for the students to form classes. The example of a senate undernourishment and famine from a these coalitions is obvious. Areas of member with five classes and a very sensitive and well-informed per­ Sound scary? interest such as the example of part-time job working ten to twenty son. monetary purchases, that should go hours a week, plus he/ she is also The fact that few people attended scrutiny, could easily be handled by sitting on two or three committees, the events does not alter the facts that business students and/ or other in­ comes to mind. The question though a significant amount of money was formational groups who can offer about this Senate member is , where raised and all of us have been to some insight into the products. They could does his/ her social life come in? extent affected by the Famine Relief offer information about product, alter­ I would personally like to see eight week and program. Three cheers for the Student natives, cost confirmation, necessity committees in the areas of finance, of purchase, purcharse agreements, student society policy, communicat­ Society! student usage rates, etc. The idea of ions with student body, special Jim Davies November 7 Engineers' Hun1anities

On October 31 , the Human­ make up this culture? Well, neering' is to discover facts it' s quite true (20 years exper­ of Douglas are blissfully ig­ ities Institute of D.C. present­ apparently it is a patriarchal and achieve objectivity and ience in this field would give norant of the economic ration­ ed " Humanities for Engi- society, and in fact, Brown consensus, to ultimately the man some say) , except for alism taking control of the would estimate that 90 per " generate certainty". In or­ those who have, like himself, education system to serve by Paul Pilon cent of its population is male! der for all this to actually been saved from such a warp- the needs of the business (What! Female infanticide!) happen, the Engineer must community and the job mar­ neers," with speaker Well , not quite, but this is practise two things in his L1 '• ,,... ; .;:t'' ket , than embracing such an Brown, an interesting, if not daily life; what Brown terms ·J·- _.,r~\· lz~ l ideology. So get off your butts daring look at his field of· activist interventionism and ,-- -_:E[ - and educate yourselves!) Engineering and the Human­ positivist activities 1 ,.: - ~- \ ·~ ~ Three cheers for Jim ities/ Social Sciences. -- . •7\ Davies who organizes these He drew upon his 20 years This, and the addition of - ~~{ Q . ~ ~-;~-=-· · ~- terrific lecture/ events, which '1 ~\\. • ~ J, .; - • -. experience as an engineer, taboos in areas such as usually occur on Thursday his work with CIDA, and an emotionalism, semantics, :V/t '!\ : ~'! - •'·''-" between 12 :30 and 2:00 p.m. absorption of the Social Sci­ contemplation (ie. reflective­ when there are no classes and ences for a contrast of these ness), and other qualities as­ u_t:_.~'~ L,· '. therefore no excuse for the two very j201?rized disciplines. sociated with the Humanities .,...... pitiful turnouts! Douglas is Brown sees Engineering as and Social Sciences, (female ed sense of reality. But how is lucky to have such a dedicat­ a "culture" itself, with its qualities to an Engineer), are this view, this religion, still ed man who is willing to own beliefs and codes . And frowned upon . So, few fe­ possible? And what can be devote his time and energy what kind of culture is it? males ever become Engi­ done, if anything? into these affairs. He should According to Brown, it' s an their choice . neers, but this will probably This is i'mpossible to cover really seek employment ordered culture, dictated by You see, a closer analysis change with the times. to any great extent here, or where his efforts can be justly authoritarian rationalism ded­ of Brown's "culture" actually Also these Engineers are during the lecture, but it is appreciated. He' s too good icated to the formulation of finds it to be a sub-culture; a very ethnocentric, holding important to note the out­ for the student body of Doug­ documents (standards of how peripheral group who' s adopt­ that their way is superior to dated methodology of the las . things should be done), and ion of certain morals and. all others. This view, unfortu­ Engineering discipline and The next Humanities Insti­ specifications (which are hy­ values of a larger, more nately, has permeated Third others like it (definitely tute event will be a film series bird documents sitting mainstream group (that of all World countries with a new course material) . held on Nov. 14 called " God where between Engineering positivist sciences as a whole) empiricism generated· from If the students and faculty is not a Fish Inspector", on and the Law) . has made female membership the West in a sort of coloni­ continue (for the most part) aging. Rm . 2203. See the This culture is politically highly selective and almost al ism of technology. An the apathetic attitude perme­ posters all over campus for conservative and business non-existent. Why? It has to alarming notion, warranting ating the school system, topics, dates and times tor conscientious, ie, involved do with their belief system . much more attention from Douglas being little exception upcoming events. fii" with the ruling political and ' Engineers worship ' Logic', now on . if not a perfect example, economic ideology, (political god of the religion known as O.K ., so it sounds like a Orwell may simply have had preppies?) . 'Science'. And the ultimate stereotype. But Brown hold his dates screwed up. (I ' d And what typ~ of people goal of the 'Science of Engi- that for the bulk of engineers, rather think that the students

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In reference to your last editorial to or lung fund or wart fund or save the -Conditioning for Sports Within any college community where you were criticizing the whales and shoot the seals fund going Anyway, that' s all I have to say for there is simply a cross section of our students' apparant apathy towards on. I thing we, as students, are now. larger community ... some beautiful college activities (eg. Famine Relief getting pumped for enough money Sincerely, people, some not so beautiful. With­ week, University week). Well, a lot of without having every panhandling Doug Setter· out being totally paranoid we all must us are tired of being swamped with organization trying to shake us down realize there are risks in life which special " weeks": Fire Prevention, for a few more bucks. Any community college is very can be minimized by our own conduct. Police, National Boy Scouts, Heart much a public place. From 0700 until In relation to personal or College Fund, Safety week, ect. ect. Are we Also, as far as the college newspaper 1100 hours the entire property is property it is recommended that you : supposed to jump to the opportunity goes, I enjoy the entertainment penetratable from numerous levels. to act in a certain way every time section . But I feel articles on world This is a necessary and desirable Never leave portable property un­ some organization dictates for us to affairs, nuclear arms race and the convenience for all attending the attended. do so? A lot of people did not come to effect of Rambo on North American Colleg'e. The situation in some re­ Never leave an unoccupied office college for a fun club. There is culture, though thought provoking, do spects is not entirely different than it unlocked. nothing wrong with having a good not relate to the student population. has been for years at the McBride or Use desks, filing cabinets etc. to time, but the aim of learning The radical stuff like supporting other College sites . keep attractive items out of sight. institutes is education . Social Lesbians is enough to gag a maggot. However, in some respects the Lock desks, filing and other cab­ functions, sports, fund raising, Royal Avenue site is prone to greater Why not give the student public inet? when leaving offices. (newspapers), ect. are strictly risks. Located as it is , near the In brief: Watch it - Lock it - or lose something to really sink their teeth waterfront, near · restaurant and tav­ secondary, even though they make into? Why not cover articles on : it! the college experience more ern row, new and impressive in size it -Career Opportunities attracts a variety of curious people be­ Your security from this type of loss enjoyable. -Job Markets sides those of us working and study­ is your responsibility. Your previous editorial seemed to -Living on a tight budget ing here. Size alone increases the sec­ Ken McCoy imply that students have all sorts of -Laws affecting students urity problem and the covered parking Manager Security free time. Or money. Every time you -Lifestyles • can be a mixed blessing. turn around there is some kidney fu~d -Inexpensive Entertainment c~~ be a mixed blessing. Page 8 November 12, 1985 The

by Robert Beynon student in such a situation. She asks : "Once I needed grocery money, " resumes, hoping she' ll find a full ti reprinted from the Ubyssey "What will the government do if Tayler continues . "A wonderful older job before she graduates. Canadian University Press numerous people start declaring lady needed her porch scrubbed so I " I' ll send two to 10 letters a bankruptcy?" went out with an old-fashioned scrub all of which get politely rejected. " brush and scrubbed it for $5 ." Anne Tayler is inexplicably buoyant Tayler lives with her daughters, after giving another lecture to her Cindy, 12 and Wendy, 14, in a house The work has never been enough English 100 class . She jumps from on Bowen Island with one and a half and she has always needed loans. "There just is not foot to foot, her curly brown hair bathrooms and a large garden, be­ Tayler is applying for a work study enough money" bouncing to the rhythm of her feet. cause housing is less expensive than this year although she is already in Vancouver. They do not eat meat, instructing an English 100 course, "I love it. I'm always like this after and Tayler only goes out "on oc­ writing her dissertation and caring for She says she applies mainly class," says Tayler, 34. "I've got casions". She heats her house with a her children. universities in Western Canada such a great English 100 section this wood-fueled air-tight stove - "wood's along the U.S. West Coast and year." "There just isn't enough money," institutions around the Pacific R free," she says . she says . Tayler's happiness is contagious as she flits from person to person in the Tayler begins her day at 6 a.m. and Buchanan tower English office. It is A student loan should be often ends her days at midnight. also remarkable. an investment by the Tayler studies for her own work, Tayler should graduate this spring prepares for the English 100 class and with a PhD in English. With her government. is on campus by 2:30 p.m. Then there doctorate comes a debt of $25,000 - are office hours, and Tayler returns money she owes the provincial and home, makes supper and does home­ When she moved to Vancouver work and works until midnight. federal governments in student loans. from Whitehorse, Yukon Territories in She must pay back more than $400 a 1978, Tayler did not qualify for the That is her Monday, Wednesday, month for 10 years to pay back the B.C. student grants than available Friday schedule when she teaches debt and its accumulated interest. because she was from out of province. English 100 section 07C in Buchanan . Tayler thinks she will not have the The grants were eliminated in 1983 by Other days she does not drive her money to pay the debt in that period the Social Credit government. 1974 turquoise Datsun into school but but plans to do it eventually. Tayler's debt began in her first year stays home and works . "I'm a survivor," she explains. The at UBC. She parks her Datsun in Horseshoe debt grew as Tayler, a single mother, In the seven years since, Tayler has Bay to save money commuting to and supported her children while going to gone to school all year, continuing from Bowen Island on the small school. through each summer and working coastal ferry. " The standard joke is 'What will whenever she can . you do? Declare bankruptcy?' I hope I "I've cleaned houses, I've been a "What will the government won't get forced to do that," she tutor, a free-lance editor, judged a says . limerick contest, tried being a filing do if numerous people start " But at some point there is a clerk, gardened, typed, taught gram­ declaring bankruptcy?" limit." She says she is not the only mar courses.''

Tayler says her English section takes up a lot of her time. "We're not teaching assistants at all, we' re instructors," she says . " We are responsible for an entire class . I' m supposed to work 12 hours a week but if I did just that I' d be letting my class down." The classroom she teaches in is small and cramped with dingy cur­ tains, located on the third f loor of the Buchanan building's B wing. She is lively in class, not your typical professor. The students are relaxed and laugh at her jokes. "You didn't expect a normal class.," she tells them, smiling. Tuesday and Thursday Tayler ~ .. ... works on her dissertation, The Rhet­ . \1 ''/. ~_,-· . •• · < I oric of Quotation in the Cantos of Ezra Pound . She says she hopes she will finish by the end of this year but worries it may take years to finish, while her debt increases .

"After you take out groceries and rent there is not much left."

Tayler also spends one day a week working part-time teaching spelling. She spenas another day a week filling out job applications and sending out The Other Press November 12, 1985 l $25,000 in the·Hole expects to create her own job once to make $20,000 a year at most when Tayler _finds hidden expenses sup­ And Tayler doesn't understand why is graduated - freelance editing, she graduates. porting children - medical coverage, she has to give the education ministry "Do a budget for $20,000 a year for transportation, tutors, dentists, school in Victoria the same information three ler does not know, however, a family with two kids," she says. expenses, life insurance on herself. times a year when she fills our her loan applications:- will ever pay off her total ''After you take out groceries and rent Tayler agrees she must pay back loan doing that. She expects there's not much left." the loan but says the repayment She thinks the ministry does this to scheme has to be made more realistic. catch cheaters but she says they're She says she will not be able to make missing the real fraud anyways, only the required payments of more than catching people who apply for more $400 a month for 10 years to pay off than one loan. her loan. She says whenever she waits for a A student loan should be an reply to her loan application her investment by the government, says stomach grinds for two months. Tayler. She asks why she cannot write There's no promise that even now, it off her income tax returns when she when she's on the dissertation stage graduates like business people write of her PhD, they won't cut her off. off business expenses . While she wonders about how she'll repay her student loan, life goes on . "I will send two to 10 She chops wood for her stove every day and tends her garden - Tayler is letters a week, all of which counting on enormous zucchinis until get politely rejected." mid-December. Because they cannot afford meat she feeds her family a lot of Asian The interest payment for students food. "Like Chazuke. It's a Japanese should be fixed, Tayler argues, and dish with rice, tuna, dried seaweed, people applying for repeat loans while spices and tea. It's great because it finishing graduate work should have gives complete protein." their paperwork streamlined. Current­ ly, former students pay the prime Tayler is not worried, though. Sh.e interest rate at the time they consoli­ just wishes the system was more fair. date their loan. Some students are "I guess I'm a real survivor ... yeah, I paying almost 16 per cent interest on am." She says she has "what a friend their loans. called stick-to-itness ." Debt load Increase

The student aid program in British student paid 15 per cent of his or her Columbia is heading for a crisis. gross income a single parent with one Byron Hender, UBC's financial child could only support a debt load of awards director, estimates that by $12,000 over the repayment time 1987 the average debt of a student period of 10 years. graduating with student loans wiiLbe ''Even then there's no money left more than $15,000, closer to $20,000. over for childcare or other payments He says this May the awards office such as medical," says Hender. surveyed 113 graduating students and The elimination of the B.C. grant 81 per cent had debts over $8,000. programme in 1983, the increase in Last year they surveyed 100 students the federal loan ceiling from $1,800 to graduating with debt and only 11 $3,300 a year and B.C.'s high youth percent had loans over $8,000. unemployment rate are causing a big "And these figures don't even increase in student debt, Hender cover student loans acquired previous says, and the problem isn't going to to UBC or private debts to banks, go away.

The student aid program in British Columbia is heading for a crisis.

parents, or Visa or Mastercard." He Hender, who is also president of estimates the average student has the Canadian Association of Student more debt than the awards office Financial Aid Administrators, says his knows about. organization will ask the federal Hender says that as the debt load government to begin a joint federal­ increases, so does the default rate. provincial study into loan ceilings and "But no research is done into student repayments this fall. debt, no study into what debt load a He says even if this happens it student can be allowed to assume." could take at least until 1987 to He says his office did a survey of implement a new programme. debt payment potential for the stu­ Henders adds, "We'll have to start dent who found a job making "20,000 looking at the ability of the student to a year after graduation. If that pay." Page 10 ~~vember 12, 1985 The Other Press ·~·- ··~.U.'. - '"T '~~,.- -··:. -~~ . ~ '~fi ··r~·· - ---·~·~":\ >i'~ ,-.~»' II .. ~ · ~' • , ,...... ~... . .• ~---. "' -; .• .....p ~. ·.· "."(.. «t'.. .•• ,~: ,,. , ...... ::,.. . •. •. " :, ..':. • :· -.-~ · .' • "' .~ · : • • .. .. 1{-,. ~:·· ·'~· 'fJ ~ ...· · "! ·~·: , -r~...... ,. ./f ..... 4i ·. ·- ~~ .•- !'·.· · .. ··.:;.. ·: ·{i~ 9·'l~~,:•\\ 1:·.. ~ "'-~. .,_. ~r ;,. IJ. • .. 1 ~-... ~ · ~J... :·. ··. r~ t ·· ! ~~~·: -~; : - : \. \ s ·rt·- ~·~'- ·,~... ~, .:· .... :, ~ .... · .. ;;· l// .. . ·--.~~:5.... : ~ih\ J; I ~/.'..:' ' ·";'(··· \ \ ... . ,..;... f~. : . -- ~,.\>· · ·· .. ~ " ,1_./ .. .;./.'li ·-~~·~·\, ·f.ji.'("!~~ '~111 .:... ·.... "". ·. -~-, ... .t. _, '.. ·-:t~~~~--.~-(~1'/ · ·~ . '{-· ·.~ ·rt· . ~~~. · · .t:.~ :.·.·. ·~~:·tr // · '·, ... ~:?.11·1(:::·.- ;Ji:.i · -.'~t!t,._ · ;."1~P~ The "'·>.:-. -·,: ... :·. r'~~ .... -~ ,. ~·~ - -~: ·.~·. ..~···-~:~ -~·': ~ .· -~~"... ' -' -~.:i/·h~~( I1 "~YJ"~;:_~ _:_._;_~<\~~~~:~'£~;):~:...... ij{ ··.:, · '·"~\<..,1..,...\,,~~.... .v...... ,4~ ... ,...~ ~P~ .... · ··,,.... " :... ··.·:~.. ~.;~) ...... · -·. ·.~ '·'.·..·:· ,\,, ... . • '\_f5' ~:-~ .... --•.(4 -~. . • '"'·"'"-' ~ ~·· :·. • ··~ •• ,.,... •• ,. •• • t• Q·.'-.,, ...~----~···· · ~~ .Hf'~ ,''1... '•, f:t• •., ,• ', '~ \1 ,, ~-~~·· · · · .~)-- ·.,... , ...,""!t\_... tc. ,.. ··~:' .:Jr" .. :: ·.. . "·~ ,. '"":~ ·. --~ .~~~~ ....)' .~~ ..,~·· . . •• "' •• 'J ~ • .... \ ..·-·· :. ~--~...,~, ~..._"- ~· . ~tl...... ~::.:-::·-·. f('J' : '';x.-... , ....;,.,...... ~ - .. -~.. .. ---. --~ ·.. ~.:;U~/£ ~ •vr ~~,;;:;:;;,;.~ ..·'!.-ti ·}~November 22 a curse will descend ·}ff' on Douglas College. This time it won't '~ come from Socred budget cuts, in­ " stead a group of students are bringing J- it on themselves. Curse ·of the Werewolf is a play of Although Dorothy is producing/dl- - J~~~~~~~~ reasonably recent vintage. a musical/ recting and Drew designed the set comedy/horror parody of 30's mad and oversees the technical side, the scientist movies. The show is a students involved are running all the collaboration between Dorothy other departments necessary to pre­ Jone's production class, and sent the play-publicity, make-up, . Drew Young's Stagecraft props (many ot which are student and Design course. designed), costumes, lighting and 30 students are par- sound. Since a lot of responsibility is ticipating, but they're riding on the students they are not just following expected to work like pros, and a orders, they're professional work ethic abounds running the through all the departments coordina­ show. ting Curse of the Werewolf.

Curse of"tlie Werewolf runs for ten :>'\ shows between Nov . 22 and Dec. 1. -,_, ,Tickets are $5 and available in the concourse, but hurry, some shows are already sold out and the others are filling up rapidly.

Watch for J$®1UL\®R . ~J$®W Coming Soon to your Local D.C.T.F. Gallery

'I . Nov.22 to Dec. 2 • Douglas College Theatre Foyer Gallery November 12 -Music, Music, Music when Aiken had complained to spellbound and breathless, long after stuck with the parts of Viennese haus Schafer about a lack of challenging the last notes died away, unwilling to fraus, was in rather poor taste. Good contemporary music for flute. Schafer break that feeling, but finally break­ singing; next time perhaps they'll responded by composing a work of ing into tumultous applause. It was an stick to that. appalling difficulty - the soloist plays amazing feeling. You can share it -. almost continuously in an agitated the CBC will rebroadcast the concert As I'm sure you've heard, at the fashion at high speed . According to December 10 at 2:05 p.m. start of the Vancouver Symphony's Schafer, he was going through a 1985 season they were on somewhat difficult period, emotionally, when he rocky finaociat- groud. But in spite of wrote the Concerto, and it is very much reflected in the resulting work. Douglas College's afternoon concert by Jeremy Bloom The fourth concert of the Jubilee series continued Oct. 31 with prize­ series was even more of a tour de winning violinist Joanne their financial troubles, they have force. The VSO was joined by Czech Opaganworth. She performed a fine managed to put together a season repertoir of mixed classical and which proves they will remain one of There is something hauntingly modern works, before an appreciative Canada's finest orchestras. beautiful about the well trained im­ audience of over 150 people. It's This was ampley demonstrated in mature voice. Perhaps it's the inno­ encouraging to know that there is that their concert of October 26, which cence that makes voices so pure, or kind of support for the arts here at the included Bach's #3 Brandenburg and maybe it's just physics. Vancouver college. Respighi's Pines of Rome, and was had a chance this month to hear some ****** highlighted by the Vancouver premier pianist Ivan Moravec, who High of the best trained young voices in the Upcoming: things are slowing down of R. Murray Schafer's Flute Con­ Fidelity magazine describes as "a world, the Vienna Boys Choir. this month. certo, performed by hi> friend Robert titanic virtuoso" . He gave a brilliant Unfortunately, this concert did not Nov. 12 Julian Bream, one of the Aitken. performance of Mozart's 25th Piano live up to expectations. For one thing, worlds foremost classical guitarists, Schafer, one of Canada's and the Concerto, one of that composer's the touring group ~s n'ecessarily very will perform with the VSO at the world's leading contemporary com­ best, although not often played be­ small - barely 20 voices. The choice of Orpheum. 280-4444 for tickets. posers, has had a long association cause of its difficulty. Nov. 14- 16 Pacific Northwest Ballet. with Vancouver, including ten years This was followed by Gustav Nov. 16 brings Andre Gagnon to the on faculty at Simon Fraser University. Mahler's monumental 9th Symphony. Orpheum. And Aitken, a_Nova Scotia native, wa~ Written in his final years, this was his Nov. 17 Masterpeice Trio performs the youngest principal in the VSO's last complete symphony, and is the reportory was also dissapointing. As 19th and 20th Century works by history at 19, before going on composition of a man gazing, unblink­ Prince Orlosky- put it in Die Mendelssohn, lves and Poulenc at the to be the artistic director of Toronto's ing, into the eyes of his own death. At Fledermous, "I don't like operetta Van East Cultural Centre, Info. 254- New Music Concerts, and the second times calm, at times angry, it is a much; .not even Johan Strauss .. ," and 9578 . most (after Jean-Pierre Rampal) re­ torrid and difficult work, which was the spectacle of seeing these children Nov. 18 it's Frank Mills with the VSO, corded flautist in the world. wonderfully performed. At the end, acting out a one-act Straussoperetta, and finally In the brief introduction which the music creates a feeling of such complete with uniforms for the Nov. 23 the Vancouver Bach Choir these two friends gave to the piece, sublime peace that the whole hall was "Hussars" and frocks and wigs for performs Elgar's Dream of Gerontius, they _explained how it was written charged with it, and the audience sat, the boys unfortunate enough to be info. 921-8021 .

Philip Oakey and Giorgio Moroder Profile Mini Atomic Sage Page Human League guy meets trendy techo-pop music designer. The clash Douglas College Events November 13 l'Amour Fou results in a record that's as spontane­ Double Bill (two showings of each) Directed By: Jacques Rivette 252 min. ous as Dare (the smash hit Human Humanities Institute l'Age D'or 1968 . Film Series: Thurs. Nov. 14 - God is Directed By: luis Buneul 60 min. " All films are about theatre; there is League record 1981). The quickness of not a Fish Inspector- on aging 1930 no other subject. If we take a subject production may make the project a 12:30- 2 p.m. and 8- 10 p.m. Room "The most anti-religious, most anti­ that deals with theatre from close or success . Phil spent only one week to write the lyrics to Moroder' s demo 2203 - bourgeois of all Luis Bunuel's films far away, then that's the truth of Thurs. Nov. 28- Holistic Health - the and, naturally, most scandalous. This cinema ... It carries you because it is tapes and another two days to record new medicine episodic 60-minute film - surreal, the problem of truth and falsehood; them. 12 :30 - 2 p.m. and 8 - 10 p.m. room dreamlike, and deliberately, porno­ that is the only problem the cinema Although Oakey may never get the 2203 graphically blasphemous - was written has . It is the problem of representat­ same fame and attention as he did in Special Events by both Bunuel and Salvador Dali ." ion. And to take it by both horns as Dare, this project may well re-estab­ lish him. The hollow, distant vocals Thurs. Nov. 21 12:30 p.m. Cat People the subject of a film is what being The Life and Loves of Bertrand Directed By: Jacques Tourneur 73 honest is, so you've got to do it that Phil supplies and the hypnotizing effect of the· thumping programmed Russell . Room 2203. J i m Davies, min. 1942 way." - Jacques Rivette. philosopV, Douglas College. "Shadows, imaginative camera drums add to the records trendy Doulgas College Events are FREE! angles, layerecJ sound and a host of The Trial - a .feminist adaptation of appeal. Much of the record is fast­ Douglas College Poetry Reading other cinematic tricks create a marvel- Kafka' s famous novel starring paced and energetic - the stuff new Series ously frightening atmosphere." Barbara E. Russell. This one-woman wavers/punks live off. " Electric Mon. Nov. 18 10:00 a.m. Room 1222 November 20 show explores the contemporary is- Dreams: ' was a hit a while back and Paulette Jiles Who's That Knocking At My Door? sues of political harassement and on this LP . "Good Bye Bad Times" Tues. Nov. 19 7:00 p.m. Room 3407 Directed By: Martin Scorsese 90 min. imprisonment as it boldy steps into wi!l most likely hit big in the clubs Andrew Wreggitt 1968 the vast and breathless frontier of with the dancers going wild bouncing Co-sponsored by the Canada Council Scorsese' s first feature film, shot over terror. Nov. 15 - 30, 8:30 p.m. Two off each other. For further information call 520-5400. a four year period while he as working shows Sat. 6 and 8:30 p.m. Tix "Be My Lover Now" matches Dead ...... at New York University. The film Mondays $4.99/ Tues.-Thurs . $7 or Alive and New Order in perfection. Cinema 16- S.U.B. Auditorium, traces the life of a young Italian man general/ $6 students and seniors, Fri . This record runs on ·spontaneous Student Union Building, U.B.C. Wed. in New York, with no future beyond and Sat. $9/ $8 . Reservations 254- impulse - everything done very quick­ 7:30 and 9:30 p.m. (unless otherwise his neighborhood until, .one day, he 9578 . At the Vancouver East Cultural ly and at the moment. It may serve as noted) Tix: membership: $.50, Single meets a girl who has left the neigh- Centre, 1895 Venables at Victoria a model for others to follow just the same way as Dare did. The moody, Admission $2.001 ,, Annual Pass borhood and returned. The film deals .WP.r.iuYI!'d ·y· . .u. . •.k. e· ••t •••d. • ·a·. M.. e. ·g·a· . • a··g·e· $25 .00. Office: 228-3698, Tape: 228- with questions of purity and religion. 0 0 11 0 0 5 depressed record cover photo is de-. 3697. Note: films may be subject to November 27 (one showing only at Page? If so ... come on down to The ceiving and says little for what the change. 7:30) 'Other Press Room 1602 . record is . (8/10.5) by Richard Haines Page 12 November 12_, 1985 Page of poe1ns ~~~~~~~~~~~ BIRD NOMENCLAlURE [MODERN] SEARCH AND RESCUE Updated on the battlement I saw him today Of the Birdwatchers ... ! mean finally The birddroppings on the grimy sitting across the table See a " squat" of pigeons, cooing with the half full One terms it, insufferable rooing coffee mug Overhead, reel a " shriek" of starlings and cigarettes. A " biddy" of sparrows eat crumbs on the roof He was talking planes Watching morning at the window and searches A sunny " tweak" of canaries smile in their cage A " gale" of seagulls nest in the hollows By the lake ... a rake ~ \ Numbers A " jest" of robins pull worms -..»- and names Progressive from their dewy holes ... ./L.--- please call back by Shirley Murphy ~

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You bristle at each other along the corridors \ Frozen in attitudes of mutual defiance, \ Avatars condemned to dreariest rebirths, \ Women with no discernable future, \ \ 0 swabbers of Lysol, helpmate.to millions \ Open your window \ Put on your glasses . \ \ by Anna Zimmerman \ \ \ I \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ I h UNTITLED \ s all com . \ \ My bod mit my soul and h \ \ Y, caress sp. . eart to th.or. \ \ ' mt and t '-<= \ Together shall ruth. \ my elements . \ \ \ ThWro.ul gh endless d give You the ultimate 1 I my 1 ays and 1 \ \ The de ove endure s eepless nights \ \ C sert sun h \ \ ould not d ' t e deepest \ estroy our bo ocean \ Thou shall nd. \ for it has s~=Y~ow love really Work \ ..,...... sand feels \ •o smk . ' \ To flow ~~~~st~e lo~liest heart To cover one s skin r, . one's o overtake secret thoughts NATURE With:~~t And when th The sound of the waves crashing -silently The feelingo~ ~eoesf ~hhat has been d upon the ever shifting sands of time. ng t one The feel of the ripping wind changing For ~hou wiil lov . all we see through the decades W1th spirit e JUst like 1 h The hot ever shining sun beating upon , soul and life ave the precious earth. The unpredicable rains that may feed by Michelle 0 or drown the unsuspecting green. · ·CrOcker ·All these create the mystery of this different life- nature. by Jabs .... ., ' .•:a~o • " t• ...... ~~ ;.. ... or D.C. The second annual Royal Classic D.C. Royals were named to the Men' s Basketball tournament was All-Star team : #21 AI Church and #23 held last weekend at Douglas College. Brent Henderson; Honorable mention with eight teams, including the Uni­ was also given to #9 Bill Matthews. versity of Victoria J .V.'s , Edmonton' s Slotted in the middle of the Royal Grant MacEwan Griffins and our own Classic Tournament was a well-played Douglas College Royals competing. " Women' s" basketball game, not a The Royals started the tournament girl' s game as was indicated in the by destroying the University of Vic­ tournament' s program. The Douglas toria J .V.'s 103 - 52 . In the semi­ College women' s basketball team beat finals, the Royals defeated Grant the University of Victoria J .V . MacEwan by the score of 89 to 68, women' s team 93 to 57 . advancing to the championship round For the first four minutes, the game against the Vancouver Police Depart­ looked like it would by a close evenly ment-Safeway.·- matched one . The Royals soon indi­ Despite the scoring presence of cated that was not the case, by V .P.D.'s Kelly Dukeshire, who had 18 scoring twelve unanswered points points, the Royals and the V.P.D. within a period of two minutes. played a close matched first half, The score at the half was 54 - 24 for with the Royals leading V.P.D. by one the Royals . That point margin was point. increased by 30 points by the final Lack of scoring by Dukeshire in the whistle, the Royals winning over the second half did not reduce V.P.D.'s J .V.'s 93-57. determination as they narrowly de­ The Royals biggest scoring threat feated the Royals; winning the tourna­ was Mirjana J urcic (#5) with 26 points ment the score of 79 - 74 . f.or the game. Other Douglas scoring Kelly Dukeshire was the tourna­ leaders were: Becky Watson (#13) D.C. Royals women' s basketball team practice after winning over the U.Vic. 'j.v.'s. ment' s MVP scoring a total of 89 with 17 points and Liane Chouinard points during tournament Two (#10) with 12 points. Sabre Strategy Sports Bulletin Fencing brings to mind, the image this program, the students can enter of two men dueling for their honour; the intermediate program, in which even though, today' s fencing isn't as they have the chance to apply the Board glamourous as the past image evokes; techniques they learned in direct fencing now involves more strategy competition. and endurance than in years gone by. Douglas College fencers participate Aerobic Classes Students at Douglas College, fence in a recreational fencing league, through the Douglas College fencing which has all universities and colleges 12-1 p.m. Mon. to Thurs. club. Instructor Simon Tam contri­ in the Lower Mainland competing in. butes 15 years of fencing experience Douglas has been classified as the and his expertise as former B.C. " team to beat" in league competition. Sabre champion, to his instruction. With a fencing tournament sched­ Wrestling Club There are two fencin'g programs at uled to take place on March 29 at Douglas; the beginners and interme­ Douglas College, competing teams 4-6 pm. Mon. and Wed. diate programs. The beginners pro­ are going to come from Oregon, gram instructs the student on the Washington State and Alberta, as basic moves and the one' s associated well as from other parts of British Judo Club with the sport. After completion of Columbia. 5:30-7:30 p.m. Mon. and Wed. Boxing Club 7-9 p.m. Mon. to Fri.-

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November 2 and 3, the Senior the team . Intermediate Novice Tournament was With the next tournament slated held at the B.C. Amateur Boxing Nov. 16 at 1:35 p.m. and 17 at 7:30 Association Training centre in Burna­ p.m. at the B.C.A.B.A. Training by. Two members of the Douglas Centre, 250 S. Willingdon, Burnaby. College Boxing team were among the Douglas promises to try and repeat participants. their last tournament results. Brent Daschuk, who competes in the 1651b weight division, won the division championship as well as The Douglas College Royals men' s winning the championship for best hockey team started their season senior boxer. The other Douglas victorious, winning twice against the boxer, George Mecredi was the un­ University of Washington Huskies; contested champion for the tournii­ 7-2 and 10-3 last weekend. Leading ment; both boxers are indicating this scorer for the Royals was Harold year promises to be a winning one for Mainman with 9 points. P.age 14 November 12, 1985 The Other Press LesAutre.Funnies

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