Exactly Who Are Men Here Waiting For... 135 Upvotes | 10 July, 2020 | by the Purring Jew
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exactly who are men here waiting for... 135 upvotes | 10 July, 2020 | by the_purring_jew ...to start the campaign for "mandatory" paternity testing and paper abortions? where is the lobbying group and the non-profit? why arent you all banding together to propose legislation? or at least some of you? who are you waiting on to do it? Archived from theredarchive.com www.TheRedArchive.com Page 1 of 65 Comments Smoogs2 • 68 points • 10 July, 2020 01:30 PM* I'm not sure it's a matter of waiting for anything? It's just a philosophical framework being used to debate. There is no requirement to do anything if you say... wish humans colonize Mars. That being said.... https://mensrights.com/mandatory-dna-testing/ You also don't have to wait for anything? Here is one of the lobbying groups for mandatory paternity testing from a member of the board of directors of the national organization Fathers & Families. [deleted] 10 July, 2020 01:53 PM* [deleted] rhyth7 • 18 points • 10 July, 2020 04:58 PM People have rallied for less. They're rallying about masks right now. Smoogs2 • 12 points • 10 July, 2020 01:58 PM It doesn't make very much sense to me? It's like asking "what are you waiting for by wanting humans to colonize Mars?" Firstly, you can want humans to go to Mars without doing shit besides shitposting online about the benefits of human space exploration as a philosophical concept and secondly, there are already entities that exist who are pursuing the idea. yasee • 11 points • 10 July, 2020 04:35 PM I don't really agree with the tone of the OP but this rally outside of hospitals and court houses is what activists do. well, it's one of the things they do to raise awareness, show solidarity and bring media attention/pressure to bear on an issue they care about. it's not making yourself a target "for no damn reason" it's putting yourself out there for a cause softhandsam • 3 points • 10 July, 2020 07:38 PM Men are busy working yasee • 4 points • 10 July, 2020 07:46 PM of course they are softhandsam • 0 points • 10 July, 2020 08:53 PM Yes unlike women we can't just shirk days of work in a row yasee • 6 points • 10 July, 2020 10:09 PM of course not, I understand you're very responsible softhandsam • 2 points • 11 July, 2020 03:34 AM I could skip the extra hours I do on the weekends www.TheRedArchive.com Page 2 of 65 yasee • 2 points • 11 July, 2020 04:43 AM only if you really want to softhandsam • 2 points • 11 July, 2020 05:24 AM But I like the money and it shouldn't be up to me the_purring_jew[S] • 5 points • 10 July, 2020 09:03 PM I dont want you to do anything at all Matt_Door • 1 point • 10 July, 2020 07:38 PM Naw, shit test. “Real men” don’t beg the government for rights or for help, they don’t wring their hands about internet feminists, they just take what they want. I wouldn’t take any of this seriously. the_purring_jew[S] • 13 points • 10 July, 2020 09:03 PM Right all those coal miners fighting for unions weren't "real men" Matt_Door • 2 points • 10 July, 2020 09:55 PM They physically fought though, there were gun battles against the army. They weren’t begging pretty please, please give us some rights. They made the streets red with blood. That’s taking their rights, not passively begging for them, and kicking dust when the government says fuck off. the_purring_jew[S] • 8 points • 10 July, 2020 10:10 PM men literally lobby the governemnt through groups for all kinds of things all the time Matt_Door • 2 points • 10 July, 2020 10:51 PM As I said under automod, most guys will just opt not to play the game if they don’t see reward for the effort. They’ll avoid commitment and responsibility, or once divorced wont marry again or limit their future children. Oh sure, NEETs are a weird corner of the internet, but there’s a whole middle section of dudes achieving just enough to get by. It’s the smarter, more achievable path. You know and I know that these Paul Elam looking dudes are going to get laughed out of the room, they bring no proposition to the table, and politics is a quid pro quo game. But I don’t think it’s really about that, and I think it’s you shit testing the male ppd population. And most of these guys failed miserably. Afraid of internet feminists? They barely have control over their own basket case lives, they can’t “ruin” yours. On top of that, a man should look after his own children, and most men, including me, believe that. I don’t want some loser’s burden shifted on to the state, ie me, the tax payer. the_purring_jew[S] • 5 points • 11 July, 2020 12:12 AM On top of that, a man should look after his own children, and most men, including me, believe that. I don’t want some loser’s burden shifted on to the state, ie me, the tax payer ok men here are agitating for exactly that, you are supporting my poitn that theres no male support for male financial abortion www.TheRedArchive.com Page 3 of 65 Matt_Door • 1 point • 11 July, 2020 12:40 PM I never claimed to be pro financial abortion. I’m not. Better methods for contesting paternity should exist, the real father should pay, and there should a burden of proof, not the alleged fathers burden to prove he is not the father when the couple is not married. the_purring_jew[S] • 2 points • 11 July, 2020 01:21 PM ok well thats already how it is without an acknowledgment of paternity theres no burden on the man to "prove hes not the father". he is afforded a paternity test. theres no presumption of paternity for never marrieds. how much "better" could the procedure be? men are the presumptive fathers of their legal wives issue, they have a short window to contest usually a year or two. the state says you cant act like the de facto father for years and then contest, this is normal in all fields of law (laches and estoppel etc). skystar86 • 2 points • 10 July, 2020 11:01 PM Uh have you ever seen union strikes? Workaholiconew • 5 points • 10 July, 2020 08:19 PM I find it funny how it happens Ideologues: "Well if you don't like us taking away your rights/goods, why don't you vote, lobby, work against it?" Everybody else: "You know what? you are correct." Result: The opposing parties/lobbies gains elections, money and work on a massive scale. No wonder Bolsonaro, Trump and the like are in power. Everyone is deeply tired about the modern ideologues. Pontifex_Lucious-II • 15 points • 10 July, 2020 06:37 PM For some reason men don’t give a fuck about other men’s problems unless it happens to them. If a dude knocks a girl up and is now on the hook the first response isn’t “damn that’s so unfair, there should be a movement to talk about men’s perspectives”, it’s more like “haha fuck that idiot”. gigababejfl • 13 points • 11 July, 2020 06:53 AM For some reason men don’t give a fuck about other men’s problems unless it happens to them. There is a reason. Men are selfish. They are the selfish gender. Its fine they have many good points too but this is why men complaining about women on Reddit is peak retardation. From porn to dating to life. It all starts and ends with men. This is male nature. MGTOW has every potential to be a societal change in a positive way for men but they just don't care. "Going my own way by sponsoring sex workers. That will show women I cant be controlled with beauty" Lol wut Pontifex_Lucious-II • 1 point • 11 July, 2020 08:39 PM www.TheRedArchive.com Page 4 of 65 I don’t think MGTOW could ever be a positive movement for men. It seems to just be inevitable a lot of guys are going to end up in that role because of current social and intersexual dynamics. Similar to the herbivore culture in Japan. highoncatnipbrownies • 11 points • 10 July, 2020 02:12 PM I'm a woman and I would vote for in hospital DNA testing at birth. It's too easy to fill in a name on a birth certificate. I wish we could magically require two Yes's from the parents before conception but my magic wand isn't that strong. Sid_Insidious • 3 points • 11 July, 2020 01:40 AM I wish we could magically require two Yes's from the parents before conception but my magic wand isn't that strong. Think of nearly ZERO unwanted children being born, or children born to single mothers who are really conceiving a paycheck. A socialist system that pays women to have children is going to be problematic... gigababejfl • 2 points • 11 July, 2020 06:55 AM I would vote for this too and continue laughing at red pillers acting like they really give a fuck about paternity If an alien landed you would think there was no such thing as testing for DNA the way they act Are you kidding? Pay for a super luxurious spa afternoon while you draw every dna sample imaginable from me.