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489 Leave of Absence Friday, March 09, 2012 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Friday, March 09, 2012 The House met at 1.30 p.m. PRAYERS [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] LEAVE OF ABSENCE Mr. Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members, I have received communication from the following Members who are currently out of the country and have asked to be excused from sittings of the House: Member for Tabaquite, Hon. Dr. Surujrattan Rambachan, on March 09, 2012; Member for Chaguanas East, Hon. Stephen Cadiz, during the period March 04—10, 2012; Member for Caroni Central, Hon. Dr. Glenn Ramadharsingh, on March 09, 2012; Member for Couva South, Hon. Rudranath Indarsingh, during the period March 03—06, 2012. The leave which the Members seek is granted. PAPER LAID Annual Report of the Protective Services Compensation Committee for the period January 01, 2009 to December 31, 2010. [The Minister of Housing and the Environment (Hon. Dr. Roodal Moonilal)] JOINT SELECT COMMITTEE REPORT Central Tenders Board Act (Proposal to Repeal and Replace) The Minister of Planning and the Economy (Hon. Dr. Bhoendradatt Tewarie): Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I wish to present the Interim Report of the Joint Select Committee appointed to consider and report to Parliament on the Legislative Proposals to provide for Public Procurement and Disposal of Public Property and the Repeal and Replacement of the Central Tenders Board Act for the Second Session [2011/2012] Tenth Parliament. ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Prime Minister’s Official Visit to India (Details of Costs Incurred) 33. Miss Donna Cox (Laventille East/Morvant) asked the hon. Prime Minister: Could the Prime Minister identify: a) All Ministries, Agencies and other sectors of Government, including the State Enterprise sector, that incurred costs in relation to the Prime Minister’s official visit to India from January 2—15, 2012? 490 Oral Answers To Questions Friday, March 09, 2012 b) The total cost by each Ministry, Agency and State Enterprise that expended funds towards the official visit to India? The Minister of Housing and the Environment (Hon. Dr. Roodal Moonilal): Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Office of the Prime Minister incurred costs on the recent official state visit, $1,905,162.92; the Ministry of Public Utilities, $200,860; the Ministry of Transport, $264,583.24; the Ministry of Energy and Energy Affairs, $340,882.60; the Ministry of National Security, $436,740. Those are the costs incurred by the Ministries, pursuant to part (b) of the question. Miss Cox: Supplemental, I asked about state sector expense, I have not heard that, please. Hon. Dr. R. Moonilal: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the responses are based on Cabinet approval for Ministries to travel on that trip. The Member may wish to pose questions to the Ministers concerning the individual state sector organizations and state agencies. These are the figures approved by Cabinet as per Ministry. Miss Cox: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I did not ask about the figures approved by Cabinet, I asked about the state sector, the state enterprise and I would like to know figures please. You have not answered the question. Hon. Dr. R. Moonilal: Mr. Deputy Speaker, as I said, the Member—please if you wish to find out from state enterprises and state agencies, please file the question with the appropriate Minister and that Minister will respond as per their department. [Desk thumping] Dr. Rowley: Supplemental to the Leader of Government Business. Are we to understand that the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago is saying that her office has no responsibility for the state enterprise sector on a trip which she led to India? Hon. Dr. R. Moonilal: The Prime Minister’s office and the Cabinet have approved travel and expenditure incurred as per Ministry, the other state agencies and state enterprises which incurred costs, we are asking the Members of the Opposition to please file the relevant question with the appropriate Minister, and that Minister would be very, very pleased to come to the Parliament and give the expenditure as per Ministry. Mr. Imbert: Mr. Deputy Speaker, supplemental. Is the Leader of Government Business saying that—[Interruption] Mr. Sharma: “He not saying dat.” 491 Oral Answers To Questions Friday, March 09, 2012 Mr. Imbert:—the Opposition must file a question with every single Minister? Hon. Dr. R. Moonilal: Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is not my role to help the Opposition here, but I will help you. If you would ask a question as to the different Ministries that incurred costs, you will get an answer of the Ministries and then you may ask the individual Ministers to give a breakdown. [Cellphone rings] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Hon. Members and members of the gallery, there is a telephone ringing. This House will not permit any telephone. Can you all please turn your telephones off. Continue, Member. Prime Minister’s Official Visit to India (Number of Persons who Travelled) 34. Miss Donna Cox (Laventille East/Morvant) asked the hon. Prime Minister: Could the Prime Minister state: a) The total number of persons, government officials, as well as non-government officials who went on the official visit to India? b) The names of all persons who went on the visit and their designations? c) If public funds were expended on any such person, the total amount associated with the participation of each such person? The Minister of Housing and the Environment (Hon. Dr. Roodal Moonilal): Mr. Deputy Speaker, question No. 34 gives further breakdown on question No. 33, so my friends opposite would be very happy to receive the following information: Total number of persons, government officials, as well as non-government officials who went on the official visit to India. [Crosstalk] Mr. Imbert: You are not supposed to read it. Mr. Sharma: “Who tell you dat?”[Crosstalk] Hon. Dr. R. Moonilal: “Yuh want to answer it? [Crosstalk] “You ask a question, ah get up to answer and you geh vex ah ready.” [Crosstalk] But I cannot speak, you are speaking at the same time. Office of the Prime Minister: the Hon. Kamla Persad-Bissessar SC, Prime Minister, $271,194.50; Dr. Gregory Bissessar, spouse of the Prime Minister, $178,940; Mr. Reynold Cooper, Permanent Secretary to the Prime Minister and Head of the Public Service, $200,312.75; Mr. Shem Baldeosingh, Special Advisor, 492 Oral Answers To Questions Friday, March 09, 2012 [HON. DR. R. MOONILAL] Commonwealth and Parliamentary Affairs, $146,641.75; Mr. Devendranath Tanku, Special Advisor, financial matters, $138,623.95;Captain Gary Griffith, Special Advisor, security, $144,248.85; Mr. Barry Harridath, Advisor, $152,425.25; Miss Lisa Ghany, Advisor, public engagement, $155,367.95; Miss Vidwattie Newton, travel assistant $233,600.45; Miss Redann Boodhan, research assistant, $138,623.95; Mr. Nicholas Ramdass, photographer, $86,137.95; Miss Myla Loredo, personal assistant, $59,045.50; two officers attached to the Ministry of National Security, members of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, whose names we will not call, $436,740. Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Communications: Hon. Dr. Surujrattan Rambachan, Minister of Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Communications, $186,405.03; Mr. Gideon Hanoomansingh, Advisor, Communications and Media Affairs, $81,826.12; Mr. Avinash Ramsubagh, Advisor to the Minister of Foreign Affairs and Communications, $53,173.12; Mr. Rickie Latiff, videographer, $53,173.12. The Ministry of Public Utilities, Sen. The Hon. Emmanuel George, Minister of Public Utilities, $200,860. The Ministry of Transport: Sen. The Hon. Devant Maharaj, Minister of Transport, $185,827.22; Shivanan Ramnanan, Advisor to the Minister, $59,339.28. The Ministry of Food Production, Land and Marine Affairs: Sen. The Hon. Vasant Bharath, Minister, $264,416.80; Nadir Baksh, Director Agricultural Services, $94,993.50; Nigel Grimes, large farms coordinator, $94,993.50. The Ministry of Science, Technology and Tertiary Education: Sen. The Hon. Fazal Karim, Minister, $130,836; Mr. Jaggernauth Soong, Permanent Secretary, $130,836; Mr. NaviBoodhai, Advisor to the hon. Minister, $60,180.75. The Ministry of Energy and Energy Affairs: Sen. The Hon. Kevin Ramnarine, Minister, $193,211.80; Mr. Richard Oliver, Deputy Permanent Secretary, $73,594.70; Mr. Richard Jeremie, Senior Energy Analyst, $73,594.70. The Ministry of Trade and Industry: the Hon. Stephen Cadiz, Minister, $206,849.30; Miss Carol Bickram, Senior Economist, $89,297.70; Mrs. Christine Hosein, Advisor to the Minister of Trade and Industry, $86,823.80. Mr. Deputy Speaker, those were the Ministry figures for persons approved by Cabinet to travel on that official trip. 493 Oral Answers To Questions Friday, March 09, 2012 Mr. Imbert: Supplemental, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Could the Minister confirm whether any of the costs associated with persons from the state enterprises were included in that list, yes or no? Hon. Dr. R. Moonilal: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the names, designation and expenditure provided are from approved Cabinet records. The state enterprises that were represented on this official trip will have their records, and the Members are free to query with the relevant Minister and to even ask the relevant Ministries. The trip for that period—the various travels—was approved by Cabinet, and those are the responses which we have prepared. Dr. Rowley: Could the Minister confirm that no public funds were expended on any person in the capacity of a non-government official? Hon. Dr. R. Moonilal: Would the Member for Diego Martin West explain what would be a non-government official? Dr. Rowley: Anybody other than the list which you have read out. 1.45 p.m. Hon. Dr. R. Moonilal: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Members opposite, including the Opposition Leader, are aware that there were persons from state enterprises and government agencies who were part of that State visit by the hon.