AAHP 373 Charles Washington African American History Project (AAHP) Interviewed by Ryan Morini on April 18, 2015 2 Hours, 26 Minutes | 66 Pages
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Joel Buchanan Archive of African American History: http://ufdc.ufl.edu/ohfb Samuel Proctor Oral History Program College of Liberal Arts and Sciences Program Director: Dr. Paul Ortiz 241 Pugh Hall PO Box 115215 Gainesville, FL 32611 (352) 392-7168 https://oral.history.ufl.edu AAHP 373 Charles Washington African American History Project (AAHP) Interviewed by Ryan Morini on April 18, 2015 2 hours, 26 minutes | 66 pages Abstract: Mr. Washington begins by describing his upbringing, including his family, schooling, and church involvement. He speaks about his experiences with racism in his hometown before moving to Ocala for community college. After moving to Ocala, Washington discusses his involvement with the Civil Rights Movement of Ocala and his relationships with civil rights leaders there. The interview concludes with some of Mr. Washington’s thoughts on how his experiences in Ocala have impacted him as well as his work with the NAACP. Keywords: Civil Rights, Ocala, Florida History, Central Florida, Black History, African American, NAACP For information on terms of use of this interview, please see the SPOHP Creative Commons license at http://ufdc.ufl.edu/AfricanAmericanOralHistory. AAHP 373 Interviewee: Dr. Charles Washington Interviewer: Ryan Morini Date: April 18, 2015 M: This is Ryan Morini, I’m—okay, it’s counting down instead of counting up. I’m with the Sam Proctor Oral History Program. I’m sitting here with Charles Washington in Tallahassee, Florida. The date is April 18, 2015. Thank you for joining me today. W: Thank you for inviting me. M: Could I ask—could you state your full name? W: Sure. Charles Woodrow Washington. M: Okay. And where were you born? W: I was born in Colquitt, Georgia. M: Colquitt, Georgia. Okay, I don’t know exactly where that is. Is that south Georgia or—? W: It’s south Georgia. M: And when were you born? W: December 25th, 1942. M: December 25th. Wow. And during the War, no less. That’s quite a birth! Was that at a hospital, was it at home with a midwife—? W: Midwife. M: Okay. Do you know who that midwife was? W: Have no idea. M: You just know it was— W: Whoever she was, she was good. [Laughter] M: So that’s—so what was growing up in Colquitt like? AAHP 373; Washington; Page 2 W: I have no idea, because I did not grow up in Colquitt. I was born in Colquitt. We moved from Colquitt when I was six months old, so I’m told. And we moved to Florida, and I grew up in Florida. M: Okay, so where in Florida did you move to? W: I believe the initial place to which we moved was a small town called Davenport, D-A-V-E-N-P-O-R-T, which is four miles from Haines City, Florida. I grew up part of my early years living with my grandmother. My mother, and my oldest sister and I, and my father, at the time were living with my grandmother in Davenport, Florida. I don’t know exactly how long we lived there, but we then moved to Haines City, Florida, which is four miles maybe to the, I’m not sure whether it’s to the north or the northeast of Davenport. And I grew up in this little town called Haines City. M: Okay. So was that where your family was from originally? How did you get up to Colquitt? Was that—? W: Well, most of my in-laws were from the Georgia area. My grandparents were from Georgia, my grandfather were from Georgia. Now, I don’t know a great deal about my grandparents, great-grandparents. I know some. But, as in many families, history, and recording of that history, are not necessarily the kinds of things that people did easily and did very well. But, we grew up in Haines City. I am a product of a broken family—that is, my mother and father divorced when I was quite young. And therefore, I grew up in a single-parent household, but all the challenges associated with that are a part of who I am. M: Could I ask your grandmother’s name, who you were living with in Davenport? AAHP 373; Washington; Page 3 W: Yes. Paralee Allen. P-A-R-A-L-E-E. Allen. M : Okay. And so, had she been living in Davenport for long, or—? W: I don’t know how long she had been living there, but she continued to live there for a while. And then she subsequently moved from Davenport to Ft. Lauderdale. I suppose she had been there for a while, but I have no idea how long she had been there prior to our going there. M: Do you have any memories of her you would want to share? W: Oh! [Laughter] I used to refer to her as the sweetest, loveliest, most loving, meanest grandmother in the world. Meaning that, she was someone who loved you dearly, but who did not spare points of discipline to remind you of when you had stepped beyond boundaries, or when you have challenged beyond reason. So, she had a way of teaching you how to be disciplined. How to be responsible. But at the same time, she was a very loving and kind person. I miss her dearly. M: And so, you ended up growing up in Haines City, which was a larger—larger than Davenport, it sounds like, yeah. W: I’m glad the things—we can talk about things in relative terms. It was marginally larger. [Laughter] Not a whole lot larger, but larger. And still is. M: And so it was your mother who was raising the family there? W: Yes. M: What did she do for a living? W: Well, the very early days I can’t really say. But I do know that later on, my mother had developed an interest in the work of cosmetology. And during those days, people referred to it as “doing hair.” This is prior to a lot of the products on the AAHP 373; Washington; Page 4 market now for African American women. I don’t believe that market was perceived as one that had any productive end financially in the early days when no one had any interest in providing products. And so, Black beauticians had to do—or chose to do things that Black women needed to have done for their hair. And the whole process of pressing hair, waxing hair, curling hair, all the things that go into making Black women’s hair appropriate to their desire. I always thought their hair was beautiful as it was—I mean, still do. But that was what my mother did. She became a beautician, and she did that for a number of years. And I guess by the time I graduated from high school, for some reason, that occupational ability faded. I don’t remember her really doing that toward the latter part of my high school days. She picked up an odd job doing some work at a local school system—custodial work, which broke my heart. But it also became a high motivator. M: I see. Did she run her own salon, or did she— W: No, she didn’t. She worked at—well, sort of, yes and no. You don’t—when you say, “run her own salon,” it suggests that there was a place where you went and paid rent, and there were other businesses, and that attracted customers. No, the part of the front porch was converted into a shop. That’s where that took place, until it did not take place. M: I see. Oh, could I ask her name? W: Yes. Leola, L-E-O-L-A, Woodard Washington. Woodard was her maiden name. M: I see. And so she had grown up in Georgia. W: Yes. AAHP 373; Washington; Page 5 M: And moved there. Okay. Do you know where in Georgia she grew up? W: I believe in the same place, Colquitt. M: Okay. Now, you mentioned previously—so, in one of our other interviews, it stated that you were a Catholic, or possibly a Catholic. And you said— W: I thought both of those were quite interesting. I guess I could possibly have been a Catholic in a previous life; I have not been one in this life. And maybe I’ll be a Catholic in a future life. But I don’t have any recollection of ever even going to a Catholic church prior to graduating from high school and going to Ocala. So that was probably just a misstatement by someone who thought that maybe I had such humility or persona that it was a Catholic persona. [Laughter] M: Fair guess. So, did you go to a church growing up? W: Oh, yes. I went to a Baptist church. I joined a church when I was in 11th grade, in 1959. And it was the Beulah Baptist Church. I remember. M: Is there anything in particular—and you hadn’t been going to church regularly prior to that, or—? W: Oh, you usually go to church with some degree of regularity before you take that step of joining one. I went to church for many years before joining, because my mother insisted that we go to Sunday School, and she took us to church. It was part of a duty growing up. M: How big was the church there? Was that a—? W: Oh, I can’t say exactly, but I would imagine there were maybe 80, 90 members.