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4. REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS OF TYNWALD COURT Douglas, Wednesday, December 12, 1956 Present: The Governor (Sir Ambrose have all had every opportunity of Flux Dundas, K.C.I.E., C.S.I.). In the perusing the report and the appendices Council: The Lord Bishop (Rt Rev. attached to it, which set out very fully Benjamin Pollard, T.D., D.D., 1VI.Se.), the course of the deliberations of the Deemster Sir Percy Cowley, C.B.E., the committee and the results at which they • Attorney-General (Mr S. J. Kneale, have arrived. I should like in the first 0.B.E.), Sir Ralph Stevenson, G.C.IVI.G., instance, quite briefly, to refer to how Messrs J. F. Crellin, 0.B.E., M.C., G. Higgins, Alfred J. Teare, M.B.E., and this matter came before the Court on a .E. B. C. Farrant, M.B.E., with Mr. E. previous occasion. At that time the R. St. A. Davies, M.B.E., Government directors of the Manx Electric Railway Secretary and Clerk to the Council. In Company had intimated their intention, the Keys: The Speaker (Sir Joseph unless help should be available, of Qualtrough,- C.B.E.), Messrs H K. abandoning the line, and a sub-commit- Corlett, T. F. Corkhill, E. N Crowe, R. tee of the Executive Council reported to C. Cam-tell, H. H. Radcliffe, H. C. Ker- this Court and included in their report a ruish, Lt.-Cdr. J. L. Quine. Messrs j. C. very comprehensive report which they Nivison, J. H. Nicholls, W. E. Quayle, had obtained from three eminent rail- A. H. Simcocks, C. C. McFee, G. H. way experts with regard to the cost of Moore, A. S. Kelly, A. Cecil Teare, J. continuing the railway. That report Edward Callister, G. Taggart, R. C. disclosed the very considerable cost Stephen, J. M. Cain, W. B. Kaneen, E. which would be involved, and as a C. Irving and J. B. Bolton, with Mr F. result of its consideration the sub- B. Johnson, M.A., Secretary and Clerk committee of the Executive Council n.-1- to Tynwald. commended to this Court that no action should be taken and that the directors should be informed that the Isle of Man Government were not prepared to MANX ELECTRIC RAILWAY— give further consideration to any ques- PURCHASE BY TYNV7ALD tion of taking over the railway or Deernster Cowley: I propose, subject affording it financial assistance. That to Your Excellency's approval, to move report, to which I will refer in greater at this stage only the first of the three detail where it is requisite with the resolutions standing in my name as recommendations which we make. set follows :— out the very difficult financial problem that they faced, particularly the cost of (a) That the report dated 6th November. 1950. of the committee appointed by Tynwald carrying out the proposals. The a•reount, on the 20th June. 1956. to consider the further you will remember, was something in continuance of the Manx Electric Railway, the nature of £700.000, which included a be adopted. payment of £70,000, being the price Because it must be obvious that the asked for the undertaking, or such part second and third resolutions must de- of it as was necessary to carry on the pend on the fate which the Court railway, a figure which the company 'decides to give to the first resolution for were not prepared to reconsider or to the adoption of the report. Copies of make any concession. Some of us felt the report of the committee have already that that report, while most valuable been in the hands of members for some and deserving of consideration, was the little time, and I have no doubt that you report of gentlemen more familiar with 00•■="11. .- Manx Electric Railway—Purchase by Tynwald 154 TYNWALD COURT, DECEMBnli 12, 1958 the =ore usual type of railway and not gineer of Bradford City. Transport, and a small scenic type of this kind and that Mr J. W. Fowler, A.M.Inst.B.E., chair- to some extent their findings were man of the Council of the Light Railway coloured by the point of view with which Transport League. We invited them to they approached the question., and the come to the Island and give us the bene- matter was eventually referred to a new fit of their advice and in order to be committee with the terms of reference quite fair to the other committee, we to further investigate the possibility invited Mr Varley to come with them to of a continuation of the Manx Electric see how far the other report could be Railway system at a reasonable cost to maintained. Mr Varley agreed to do so the Government, such committee to and we appreciate the help he gave us. report back in October." As you remem- We first of all asked these gentlemen ber, it took a little longer than antici- to report on the scrap value of the line pated, but we were able to report back and also the safety and maintenance of at the beginning of November. At the the permanent way. They went very time we were appointed ,the estimated carefully into the matter and gave their details of cost of taking over were set report, which is set out at Appendix A. out in the Varley Report as £70,000 for On the first question, of the scrap value the initial purchase, £90,000 for the of the line, we asked them to give their complete renewal of the track between opinion on the figure set by the directors Douglas and Laxey, £139,000 for track of the railway company, £47,000. It is renewals from Laxey to Ramsey and only fair to say that figure was set as a £63,000 for the renewal of Snaefell result of a definite offer being made by Mountain Railway. In addition to that a firm of scrap dealers to pay it. The it was estimated that renewal of the directors were able to say that were rolling stock would be £312,000. The they to scrap the railway they could get track renewals were to be spread over that value for it. After that, we were 16 years and the rolling stock renewals agreed that the section of track between over 10 years. These two would in- Douglas and Laxey would haVe to be volve an annual charge over the respec- renewed within the next five to eight tive periods—in the case of track re- years, and after hearing what the ex- newals £18,250 and in the case of the perts had to say we were agreed that a rolling stock on a ten-year basis, £31,200, figure of £90,000 for that was reason- making a total of over £49,000. That able and must be regarded as the cost. was irrespective of the purchase price Of that figure £73,000 would be for of the railway, and they envisaged the material. and £17,000 for labour. The whole thing being carried out in ten next most urgent matter was the ques- years. Now, this committee went very tion of the relaying of the Snaefell line carefully into those figures and as far and it was estimated that that would as the detailed costs of the renewals of cost £63,000, and if it was eventually the track are concerned we have agreed decided to re-lay the line between in fact that these figures are not incor- Ramsey and Laxey, which is of heavier rectly stated and complete renewal will material and is at present in a better cost the monies stated. On the other condition than the remainder of the hand, we felt that some consideration line, it would be necessary to spend a should be given to the peculiar nature of further £139,000. The other point to the railway, it being a light and scenic which our attention was directed was railway, and that it should not be dealt the rolling stock for the renewal of with as a main line or important branch which the previous committee had esti- line of British Railways. But we also mated a figure of £312,000 to be spent decided that whatever opinion we within. ten years. It was the considered reached the safety factor must be borne opinion of two, of the three experts that in mind. We also felt that we would there was no justification for replacing like to have an independent opinion on the whole of the rolling stock with new the railway and invited over two gentle- material. Mr Varley was still of opinion men—Mr C. T. Humpidge, B.Sc., C.Eng., that the rolling stock would require re- M.Inst.T, General Manager and En- placement within 12 years, but the other Manx Electric Railway—Purchase by Tynwald TYNWALD COURT, DECEMBER, 12, 1956 155 two thought that it would only be neces- of 22,346 per annum. -After taking into sary to introduce two or three new cars account the income from the hotels, the in the next two years; that number figures show a surplus for the three would suffice for the present. We also years 1951, 1952 and 1953, but a deficit considered the reduction of the winter tor 1953 and 1954. They do not take service and, having considered these re- into account any interest on the deben- ports, another point arose and that was tures and as we do not intend acquiring whether it would be possible to close tee hotels, the takings from them- will down: the Laxey to - Ramsey section of not be available.