Esther Newberg Interviewer: Rosemary Keough Date of Interview: May 22, 1969 Place of Interview: Washington, D.C
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Esther Newberg Oral History Interview – RFK#1, 05/22/69 Administrative Information Creator: Esther Newberg Interviewer: Rosemary Keough Date of Interview: May 22, 1969 Place of Interview: Washington, D.C. Length: 26 pages Biographical Note Staff assistant to Senator Robert F. Kennedy [RFK] (1968). In this interview, Newberg discusses her experience working with RFK’s campaign as part of the Boiler Room and campaign activities in various states among other issues. Access Open Usage Restrictions According to the deed of gift signed February 23, 1973, copyright of these materials has been assigned to the United States Government. Users of these materials are advised to determine the copyright status of any document from which they wish to publish. Copyright The copyright law of the United States (Title 17, United States Code) governs the making of photocopies or other reproductions of copyrighted material. 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Ar 7~cry .JJ, l;tZ3 Date Esther Newberg – RFK #1 Table of Contents Page Topic Addendum Subject Index 1 Initial meeting and involvement with Robert F. Kennedy’s [RFK] campaign 2 What it was like to work with RFK’s staff 3 Dealing with issues in upstate New York 7 Early indications that RFK would run for president 10 What it was like to work as part of the Boiler Room 19 Campaign activities in Michigan 25 Campaign activities in New York (RFK Interview) Subject Index ESTHER NEWBERG American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO) 25 Democratic National Committee (DNC) 13 Economic Development Administration 6 Economic Opportunity, Office of (OEO) 5 Health, Education and Welfare, Department of (HEW) 4 Housing and Urban Development, Department of (HUD) 4, 6, 9 Kennedy, Robert F. Senate Years, 1965 - 1968 2 - 4 Staff 1 - 4 , 8', 10 - 12 Family 7 Leadership and Administrative Style 7 Personal Characteristics 6 - 7, 9, 18 Presidential Aspirations 7 - 9 Michigan Primary Election, 1968 14, 16, 19 - 25 Migrant Workers RFK and 6 Model Cities Program 6 - 7 New York RFK and 3 - 6 Primary Election, 1968 25 - 26 ~residential Campaign, 1968 - Humphrey 22 - 23 Presidential Campaign, 1968 - RFK Advisers 7 - 8, 16 - 20, 23 Boiler Room . 10 - 11, 13 - 19, 25 - 26 Ethnic Support 18, 23 - 24 Family Support 13 - 16, 21, 23 Finances 22 Labor Support 20, 25 Presidential Campaign, 1968 - McCarthy 21, 25 United Automobile Workers (UAW) 20, 24 - 25 with ESTHE.R NEWl3ERG Ma.y 22, 1969 Washington, n• .o. By Rosemaxy Keough For the lloberl Kannetty O:ral Rietocy Project of the Kenn.eey tib.rtl.cy .KEOUGK: When did you first go to work for Robert Kenned\Y? ~: ln X>eaember or· l.967, 'but :t'·d been on the SUbcol!lrlittee .on .E~cutive Re ... org-a.rtization before thAt tor tW'Q yea.re when the Sena.tor wa.a a member ot the Su'b-conuni ttee. So I had gotten to know him then. KEOOO.H: Wh&t kind of personal o.onte.ct did you. ha.VQ with him at that time on the Sub-col!l%11i.ttee? NEWBERG: Ooca.sio~, tnembers of hie eta.ff wouldntt come t .o the hearings, and so I would write qu.eat ions for hint or keep him in:tormed. of wha.t had hawened durill.g the hearing, anything th&t he'd missed. It .rea.lly wasn't very pe!;Sonal contact. I'm m.ire he woul.dn''t have thoUght so. But I did. l\:BlOUGH: So how· did you hear abov.t the job on his. staff? And wby did you want; to go to 1'10rk on bis atatt? ~t Bta.rba.t-a Coleman ha.d. been on his staff in the particular job 1 was intere-sted in. I knew she left and that the job lta.tt a.vai.la.ble, But J wanted to be asked to go to work for Robert Kennedy. I ·. l<new Peter Edell:narl. veey 1~ .tUld. :t met wi'bh hlln. one afi-ernoon by aecid.ent ·· ~~ suddenly ooa~ed to him the.t I might. be in\.e.rested.,. Attar that events x-eally anowbe.l.l.ed and .Toe /Joseph -P.J Dolan · aaked me if I would be inte~sted. in the job. I wa.s. KEOUGH : You interviewed with JOJe Dolan? NEW:BERG: I inteNie.wed with Joe three or four times, and then with the senator the last day. lmOUGH: 'Vl'l'lat mw aaid in your intervi1~!'w' With the Senatflr? NE'W.13EllG: It was a. very shorl int:er\i'iew 'bece,iu.se he: wall busy~ But he said, "Why do you think you wa.:rit to come ta work :f'or .me'l ", a.:t'te.r we tal.Ked a litt.le bit a.bout, I can't t~bex- wha.t exactly. And l said, "because thi$ is whe:re it'fs happen.1.ng/·' That's e'®.ct~ what I said. And he laughed. and he said,. 11iJ.'ba;t.• s good enough tor me. You. can start to ...rork the day after Christmas~ t• And I laughed b.etlattse the whole office wasn't going to l>e there, but I was starting that day~ We were on vacation. Whet sorl of reputation did his staff have with the r-est of the Rill1 NEWBERG: QhJ :young and bra.sh; i.-ea.llv eveqthing that Adl»D. £walinskf/ ~resented.. U'hey did the-ir hol!le'lro.tk. ~ey d.idn1 t f'it. into the ooJWentional mold of people who'd been on th-e Hill fb~ thirty ;years. Anotheu- thing was tM,t so m8.ey ot the ~f peapl.e on the Rill switcbed. lo~tie ·s; could wo.rlt tor .a variety of senatora; and they were J;"eally p2:'0tta•rdonal Hill ate.ff people. rut that wa.sn 't true with Sena.tor ltennedy'a ata.ft, .senera.lly, .especially With the professionals-. You we:te work.ins for him only.. .And I think now if you look ba.ok, ytl)U find that that rea.lly was tl'Ue bees.use l!lOst of his stat>f d.idn't have the bes.rt to move on to aeybottY" els.e.. · Did that staff' work well ·wit..h o~hE!l' senate office.s, o:r did they stand ape.rt? NEW!ElaG: I thinlt they worked well. We· had no real problems with /Jacob 1!t.J Ja.vits' office. l don't !mow how the. two Sena.tors telt about ea.ch other l:'ea;l.ly, the ats.ffs were e.bl,e to get a.long well~ The Sena.tor• s reJ;>uta.tion was one of not wai tina his turn in the way tlut.t his brother, for inste.nce, did in the. Senate. AS t.a.v as wlla.t I saw of b.im in the· SU'b•colf!lllittee, he always did... He woul.d bow to the $enior membei-s; hie would ti;i.ke his turn.