THE NATIONAL MUSEUM OF THE PACIFIC WAR (Nimitz Museum)

CENTER FOR PACIFIC WAR STUDIES Fredericksburg, Texas

Interview with w JOSEPh F. YAKLOVICH, UNITED STATES NAVY

PEARL HARBOR SURVIVOR

USS PENNSYLVANIA

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my I leaningforward and he had his head right forward of the hind leg with some pressure against the cow. Every time she picked her leg up to kick or whatever, she had to put it down real quick because she got off balance, you know. But I learned to milk cows the hard way, and it was quite an experience. Then I went from there, after I was a resident, you had to be a resident of Wisconsin one year before you could go on relief. And after I was a resident one year, I went on relief and one week I drew one batch of groceries and the following week I got a notification to report to a certain office in Milwaukee where they sign you up for the Civilian Conservation Corps. There wasn’t anyway you could get and stay on relief any length of time. All the young guys in the familieswere signed up to go to the CivilianConservation Corps, which I was so pleased to get a good start. That’s where I really got my start in life, and they sent me to a CCC camp, Blue Lake, Menasha, Wisconsin, Company 654. MR. PRATT: About how old were you then?

MR. YAKLOVICH: Going on 18 years old. I stayed in there for two years, just short of two years before my next birthday came up. Around the holidays, when I was down visiting my brother, I went down to the post office and took my examination for the navy.

And that was around December or January, and then 1went back to camp, and then I was called to go the navy in February. MR. PRATT: February of 19? MR. YAKLOVICH: February of 1940. MR. PRATT: And where was that? MiLwaukee?

MR. YAKLOVICH: Yes, that’s where I took my examination. MR. PRATT: You had a choice of navy, army. Why did you choose the navy?

MR. YAKLOVICH: Because while I was down visiting my brother around the holidays,

December of ‘39, January of ‘40, 1took my examination at the navy recruiter’s office.

That was in the post office in Milwaukee. A funny thing there, they made us strip down. They had us up in a room in this one post office, and they had us strip down for a complete physical examination. And looking up in one of the buildingsthere was a bunch of ladies standing there looking down on us. I told the chief “Hey, we’re putting on a show here now.” He said, ‘What do you mean?” He looked out and he said, “Uh, oh.

4 We’ve gotta pull the shades down.” There we were as naked as ajaybird. Then we were sent down to Great Lakes, Illinois, for our naval training. That was in February and, of course, right off of Lake Michigan. Cold, let me tell you, and besides that they even took us out on a lake which wasn’t frozen in yet, only parts of it, but they got us in the whale boats to get that training, you know. That was quite an experience. Before we did too much rowing we froze our hands. And the chief that was in charge of us, he got pretty cold, too, and we got back up into our barracks. But we trained there at Great Lakes and it was very interesting. The best company in Great Lakes was always given the rooster.

It’s a flag they call “the Rooster”, and one of the guys would carry that in the parades.

We had a parade from our barracks, every where you went you had a parade, and being I

had a big mouth I used to call cadence. Left, right, left right, you know, and in fact

there’s where 1met one of my shipmates that wound up on a battle ship with me eventually. Fle was from Iowa ,and he called cadence for another company. We were company 12 and he was company 13, and ‘c’d try to outdo each other to see who the

loudest was. When we were completed with our training there in boot camp, our

company was allowed to, the men in the company were allowed to select the ship that they

were gonna go on. Being I was from Pennsylvania, I thought, well, I’ve seen all the whole

wall filled up with pictures and names of the ship. And of course I selected the (iSS PENNSYLVANTAwhich was the flagship of the fleet, not realizing that there was a lot of inspections, clothing inspections, and your lined up like a couple rows of corn many, many times being they carried the admiral, Admiral James Richardson. That was his flagship. Around May of 1940, we were taken out to the west coast by train, and we boarded the cruiser USS BOISE as passengers. We were taken out to the fleet which was anchored

off of Maui between Kauai and Maui, the channel there. And that’s where I boarded the PENNSYLVAMA.

MR. PRATT: What was your field, what was your training in. what was your rating?

MR. YAKLOVICH: [learned the manual of arms iii boot camp pretty quickly, and I used to lead the manual of arms. We had a ftwmermarine that was our company commander

under a chief but when we marched to any event, I would call cadence. And when we

had the drill with the rifles, I used to give the manual of arms. I guess because I learned it

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guns. But there was always guys coming on and off the ship being transferred, and so I

finallygot transferred down to the main engine gang in A room number I. I learned a lot down there from a couple of first class machinist mates, and I fmallywent up the ladder. I went from apprentice seaman to fireman 3rd right on up to fireman2nd and fireman 1st.

From fireman 1st. I went to second class machinist mate. When the war broke out I was a second class machinist mate.

MR. PRATT: Now you mentioned a friend from iowa or Ohio. MR. YAKLOVICH: Iowa.

MR. PRATT: Are you still in touch with him? MR. YAKLOVJCH: No, we’ll get to that. Let me think a little bit to where we’re going from here.

MR. PRATT: This was here in Pearl Harbor. We say Pearl [-larbor,but what actual base or actual spot were you located?

MR. YAKLOVICH: It was the battleship PENNSYLVANIA. The CATSENand the DOWNS, two destroyers were right ahead of us. MR. PRATT: You were in dry dock?

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too, by the name of Whitehead. He was out of Moline, Illinois, and he and I went to the wrong station. So we both got restricted to the ship. Anyway, the gunnery officer on the CERO that we commissioned was a Jewish Lt. Commander Shakon. He commissioned the CERO with three of us that come on the DENTIJDA. And we were on the ???

waiting for the ship to go down to Australia. take us down there, to pick up a ship back to the states and this Julius Shakon, the gunnery officer from off the CERO, he had his papers. “Where you going, Mr. Shakon7’ He said, “I’m going back to put the USS

DENTUDA in commission” And I renamed it “dead tuna”. I said, “You mean dead tuna.” “No,” he said. Would you believe the son of a gun put in for the three of us to come on to the DENTIJDA. When we come aboard, he said, “Hey, Jo, how do you

pronounce the name of this sub you’re on now?” I said, “Dead tuna.” He said, “I knew I’d get you”. So he wound up executive officer on the DENTUDA. Being we got restricted, he saved me from getting the captain’s mass with Jocko McCain. It would have been a first black mark, but he put a good word in and it cancelled that out. We went in commission, and you could bring family up to the sub base. They could come on board then after they were commissioned and that, and none of my familywanted to go up. I said, “Hey this is my steel cofliri. I might not make it. You remember you’ve been

on that ship.” None of them would come up. But that’s the way I felt. MR. PRATT: That was your home. MR. YAKLOVICH: That was my home, home away from home. When we get out to schools and put on a program on Pearl Harbor. a slide presentation, if they don’t have many questions then we elaborate on our experiences through WWI1. And then I tell them I was on submarines. These kids they light up like a Christmas tree. “Submarines.

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