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Do Californians Feel Welcomed in Idaho? 5/23/2018 ktvb.com | Do Californians feel welcomed in Idaho? MENU LIVE 60° Boise, ID WEATHER ALERT 1 Weather Alert Learn More 00:00 / 06:15 Do Californians feel welcomed in Idaho? Idaho's appeal is drawing out-of-staters here in droves - particularly Californi Because there are so many of them here, we wanted to hear from you about whether Californians are welcome in Idaho. As we found out, it depends who you talk to. BOISE -- The secret is out: The hidden gem is no longer hidden. Idaho's appeal is drawing out-of-staters here in droves - particularly Californians. It might seem more apparent now for a number of reasons, but we've been talking about whether Californians are taking o Idaho for years. KTVB's Morgan Boydston went out into the community to get a feel of what Idahoans and California transplants think about Californiacation. Louis ‘special name to the Royal Family’ says historian https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/do-californians-feel-welcomed-in-idaho/277-557258526 1/14 5/23/2018 ktvb.com | Do Californians feel welcomed in Idaho? FEATURED BY The Golden State exodus has been landing on Idaho's soil for decades. Because there are so many of here, we wanted to hear from you about whether Californians are welcome in Idaho. As we found out, depends who you talk to. And do Californians feel like they're welcome? Some tell us people will give eye-rolls when they tell where they're from, others might make a sarcastic comment, but for the most p California transplants tell us they do feel welcome because we live in such a welcoming community. "The first reaction is just always the same; it's 'ew'," Patrick Crewdson, who recently moved to Boise fro San Diego, told us, "because we're invading. Because no one wants to live in California because it's so expensive. So it's cheap here so why not live here?" "The quality of life here is exceptional," April Neale, from Calabasas, Calif., said. "Not one negative experience. I can't believe what an incredibly gracious and lovely place this is." "[It's] cheaper, way cheaper. You can't live in California, are you kidding me? It's like for the same price brand new apartment you can get a 70-year-old apartment in California that's infested with cockroache Crewdson said, "I was just interested to go somewhere where I could be more outdoorsy." "We were living paycheck to paycheck just on rent down there, and now we have a house, we were a pay for our wedding. So it's a lot different," Marina Strong, who moved here with her husband four yea ago, said. "Someone when we first moved here actually told us not to tell people we were from Califor But then I kind of feel like the more people we talk to they're like, oh yeah, we're from California too. W never had any bad reactions." "We make all of these different lists so people are moving here," Kerri Ohara, a Realtor with Boise Regi Realtors who specializes in relocations, told KTVB. "They want to move to Boise because they want to part of what Boise has to offer." "It started not feeling like home. It just didn't feel like it did 20 or 30 years ago in Los Angeles. And the opportunity was here," Neale added. Now Idaho is feeling like home for a lot of Californians. If you look at the numbers, of all the people mo into Idaho from out of state, most of them hail from California. The U.S. Census Bureau 2016 American Community Survey shows about 80,000 new Idaho residents in 2016; of those, 17,000 (21 percent) we from California. Washington state followed with 9,300 people. ITD Copy of DL Migration by State and Age 2015-2018 Ytd (002) by Sean Deter on Scribd https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/do-californians-feel-welcomed-in-idaho/277-557258526 2/14 5/23/2018 ktvb.com | Do Californians feel welcomed in Idaho? Net surrenders of drivers licenses an identification cards, 2017 Compares out of state surrenders in Idaho (IN) with Idaho license surrenders in other states (OUT) 20 and younger 21 - 30 IN OUT Net IN OUT Gain United States ALABAMA 10 7 3 54 16 ALASKA 36 10 26 198 60 ALB ERTA 0 0 0 5 0 AMERICAN SAMOA 1 0 1 1 0 (ISLANDS) ARIZONA 65 10 55 519 100 ARKANSAS 11 1 10 57 2 BRITISH COLUMBIA 0 0 0 3 0 CALIFORNIA 252 2 250 2723 145 CDLIS - PSEUDO STATE 0 0 0 0 0 COLORADO 40 10 30 508 103 CONNECTICUT 0 1 -1 26 11 DELAWARE 2 1 1 6 1 DIST OF COLUMBIA 0 0 0 3 14 FEDERATED STATES OF 0 0 0 0 0 MICRONESIA FLORIDA 19 21 -2 229 164 GEORGIA 9 12 -3 153 111 GUAM 2 0 2 6 0 HAWAII 9 0 9 71 41 ILLINOIS 13 8 5 175 83 INDIANA 8 0 8 93 1 IOWA 11 0 11 89 2 KANSAS 12 3 9 110 49 KENTUCKY 1 3 2 63 48 Boydston, Morgan https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/do-californians-feel-welcomed-in-idaho/277-557258526 3/14 5/23/2018 ktvb.com | Do Californians feel welcomed in Idaho? Boydston, Morgan When we asked folks if all these Californians are welcome in Idaho, we heard mixed responses. "Do they feel welcome? Yes, I would think so because they move in and they treat it like they've lived their entire lives. But the problem is they're stepping on a lot of people's toes who have lived here the entire lives," one native Idahoan, Justin Johnson, said. "What we notice is there's a huge surplus of the that come here... It creates a lot of animosity towards Californians from Idahoans, and vice versa." Johnson's advice for Californians moving to Idaho: Dump that California license plate. "Do your research first, know what you're going to walk into. Do attempt to assimilate within the cultur you've got to leave some of those bad habits of California behind: the speeding, the tailgating." "I'm OK with it. I think they need to remember they left California for a reason so don't come to Idaho a try to make Idaho like what they're used to. But I think Idaho is a great state and I'm happy to share it w anyone who wants to come and see it," native Idahoan Trina Bowen added. "Whatever group happens to be the highest in transition somewhere is always going to be the group t gets picked on. It's just the nature of the beast," David Wali, who moved to Idaho from California three decades ago, told KTVB. "The Northwest and West has always had a kind of anti-California twist to it. Y see it in Montana, Oregon, Washington, we saw it here in Idaho when I first got here." Wali says the growth and influx of Californians seems more in-your-face now because of social media technology. "But you definitely see it from multi-generational Idahoans that say, 'Hey, wait a second, you're coming my town,'" Wali added. "There's a lot of negative things you can associate with California," one California transplant, Kieran Macintyre, said. "I feel like the people that are moving here don't have a respect or a reverence for the land that - it alm brings tears to my eyes - the people who were born and raised here. Because that's what makes Idaho Idaho," native Idahoan Debbie Florence said. "I feel like we're losing our small town values, we're losin space, we're losing our land." Florence believes for the most part, natives want Californians to stop coming. "They keep driving up our rental prices, our housing prices," she said. "If they came here and perhaps have a sense of entitlement, if they came here and didn't try to impose their values on us, maybe if the weren't driving up our cost, maybe if it wasn't affecting us so badly then it wouldn't be so bad," Florenc added. "Well, certainly they're welcome. We've been talking about this for the last 50 years and, you know, we heard people talk about Californication and all that kind of stuff but I think that we've brought a lot of talented people in, gives some diversity to our population," Idaho native and former Idaho Supreme Co Chief Justice Jim Jones told KTVB, "Sometimes you feel like maybe some of the things they bring with them are not great but it's a country that I think is better served by diversity so I welcome them." Our population is growing exponentially, increasing 2.2 percent from 2016 to 2017, which was the faste rate in the country. A closer look at the data shows people moving into the Treasure Valley from California are most likely the Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim metro area. In a top-10 list of metro-to-metro areas compiled by U.S. Census Bureau and provided to us by the Community Planning Association of Southwest Idaho (COMPASS), there are four other California metro areas, including Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, S Francisco-Oakland, Hayward, San Diego-Carlsbad, and Sacramento-Roseville-Arden-Arcade. https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/do-californians-feel-welcomed-in-idaho/277-557258526 4/14 5/23/2018 ktvb.com | Do Californians feel welcomed in Idaho? Boydston, Morgan Last year alone, Idaho Transportation Department data shows 11,797 people surrendered their Californ licenses and identification cards in Idaho - up from the year before when there were 10,682 surrender The age group surrendering the most California ID's for Idaho ID's were folks 61 years of age and olde followed by people ages 21-30 years old.
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