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Anne Gutierrez

BBL 3023

Oral Interview -

April 30,2009 Anne Gutierrez

BBL 3023

Interview Project

ORAL History

My interview will start now. First, I would like to begin by asking you to tell me your name and a little bit about yourself.

What is your name?

Veronica Vazquez

When and where were you born?

I was born in Montemorelos, Nuevo Leon Mexico on April 14,1972

Were you raised there?

Yes I was raised there until the age of 18, and then my family moved to the

United States in May 1991.

How do you identify yourself culturally?

I identify myself first as Mexican since I did grow up there and I was raised there.

I do consider myself Mexican -American also because I have lived in the states

for half my life now and I did get my American citizenship.

What is your first recollection of music? My first memories of music are listening to the music my parents used to listen to.

I remember having the radio on at about the age of 5 or so as my parents would

get ready to go to work and it seemed that the radio usually stayed on as my mom

did housework or as we cleaned up and did our chores.

What Type Of music did your parents listen to?

My parents mainly listened to Spanish music, mainly music such as

corrrido, polkas, and conjunto mainly -real life stories written into song

usually about fights or family problems the corridos were very popular

that would describe what some Mexicans would go thru trying to cross the

border and work to support the family.

How did this music make you feel?

Most of this music was real life stories and did not have happy endings, usually

made me feel sad because it was usually a very tragic song or about issues that

had caused people pain. Some of the music was fun and upbeat and music that

people would dance to.

Where did you family go to listen to the music?

Oh we went to weddings, Quinceneras, birthday parties, even funerals and family

reunions. We also went to church events and festivals. All of these events

involved music and most of the family was included in these events. Where else do you remember listening to music?

I remember listening to music mostly around the house that the radio was always

on as my father worked in the yard or on the car. The radio never really was off

because we also used to listen to the news and to Mexican programs. so it rarely

stopped at my house. We also listened to it in the car and on road trips.

What were the popular bands of that time?

. I remember several different artist of my parents time 10s Tigre's de Norte,

Vicente Fernandez, Pedro Infante Jose Alfiedo Jimenez, Antonio Aguilar , At this

time the music I remember was mostly solo singers. Some of these artists are still

recording and still just as popular as ever. The singers were popular in Mexico

and in the states. I remember hearing them on the radio and on Mexican programs

.My brothers and sisters all are familiar with this music because of our parents

and when I hear this music it reminds me of when I was little.

What was the Message of that music at that time?

It depends on what type of music we were listening to it was pretty sad,

Was mostly tragic, was usually mainly about sad real life stories that did not have

happy endings. Some of it was also about very happy events. Usually the message

was about how people solved their problems or how some brave people dealt with

life issues .Some of them were about protecting your family and about working

hard. Some of the corridos discussed the tragedies some people had to go through to cross the border and work in the states. 17ne music sometimes was about

missing your family; a lot of fathers would go away for extended periods of time

and work and send their money home.

At what age did you become aware of the different varieties of music?

I think it was about my pre- teen years. When we mainly used to listen to

our parents music but then I started having my own music preferences .We

had several bands in Mexico that were aimed at teenagers and we were

also aware of Rock and Roll like Michael Jackson, and Sheila Easton and

all those because even though Michael Jackson never recorded with

Mexican Artists some American artists did record with Mexican artists

and mostly we didn't understand the language we knew they were popular

so everybody would listen to the music even though we didn't know what

was being said we still listened to this music. That was also the time that

Madonna was very popular and you can just imagine if Madonna was

controversial in the states it was a lot more controversial in Mexico. Our

parents were not very happy about the dance associated with her style or

about the way she dressed and exposed her stomach and breasts. The way

she came across as very sexual and aggressive is not usually how Mexican

women allow their daughters to dress.

What were the names of some of the popular bands of your teenage years?

There was popular groups like , Luis Miguel, There was one

group called Parcheesi that Oh My God were so popular .Their was so many others that we used to listen to but they weren't that mainstream or

as popular as the other bands. The dance of these groups was usually a

dance routine choreographed that was done at the same time by the

members of the group. Break dancing was also becoming popular as well

at thls time due to the influence of Michael Jackson and The type of music

was associated with a fiee-style type of dance that just allowed you to put

your own taste of dance moves that you like doing.

How did you find this music?

I found this music mainly by hanging out with fiiends and by listening to different

radio stations than my parents. Their was also a popular tv showed that would be

compared to American Idol. The program in Mexico was really well known, the

singers that came from all over Hispano-America would compete to win a prize

just like American Idol. From that competition the singers that would win would

make it and be like the of that time. They became the pop stars

that were very famous.

Where did you go to hear this music?

Family get- togethers, dances ,weddings aimed at entertaining the children

because at that time children went everywhere with their parents ,Now a days on

the wedding invitation says no children allowed but before we would all get

together for family celebrations.

Did you consider it mainstream music? Some of it was considered mainstream. Bands like Menudo and Parchisi

are compared to and NSync. An artist named

Thalia was a member of the Parchis group and she was compared to an

American pop star named . In fact the record producer

Tommy Mottola married both of these women. Most of my fiiends or

other people my age liked it so yes I do consider it to have been a

mainstream type of music. I wasn't sure when I first heard Menudo that

they would have such a large following or that they would be thought of as

teen heartthrobs. Usually it was not the Mexican or Spanish boy or Puerto

Rican boy being considered a heartthrob in the states.

Their music was funand upbeat and I guess that's why they did so well.

They were fairly similar to the New Kids on the Block-

See picture inserts- Menudo Compared to New Kids on the Block

Menudo- 1984 , ..

New Kids On The Block-1984.

The artists have been compared to each other in the 1980s when I was a teenager,

one group was all white and the other group was all Puerto Rican. Both were

popular in Mexico and in the states around the same time period. In Mexico the

group members were forced out of the band at age 16 that's why .there is over 30

former Menudo members. I think both groups also tried for a comeback in the

early to mid 2000's.

Some other Mexican groups or artists that came out of Mexico and made it big

was Ricky Martin who was the first replacement of an original Menudo member

and Luis Miguel.

Did this music you listen to have a particular dress style associated with it?

Oh yes most definitely, the bands like Menudo were well known for their

tailored Jackets and tight fancy tight jeans. The group all wore matching outfits.

The outfits were very flashy, very 80's style. The guys my age were wearing

jackets with the sleeves rolled up and colorful t-shirts underneath and tight jeans

folded tightly around the ankle. Headbands and wristbands also became popular among the guys dress style. They were walking around wearing the style of the

Menudo group. The teenage girls who liked this type of music also dressed a

certain way. I remember that big hair was really in style. Some girls wore their

hair in side pony tails and or in a banana clip. Our make up was always done and I

remember that bright colors were in, Blue mascara was also in. We wore brightly

colored plastic or rubber bracelets and big earrings. The clothes we were wearing

were mainly short skirts and high heels. Nice dressy blouses not too revealing but

also somewhat flashy. We liked sequins and bright colors even neon colors like

green and orange. Denim jackets and acid washed faded jeans was also very

popular. I also remember wearing leggings and leg warmers. Parachute pants also

were popular for the guys and the girls. It's funny now to think of the style that

was once considered cool; it's also hyto think that some of the 80's fashion is

making a comeback into what's fashionable now.

Do you think that teenage girls now and teenage girls in the 90's dress the same?

Teenage girls now dress a lot sexier now than back in the 90's.I would not have

been allowed out of my house in half shirts that show your belly and super low-

rise jeans. These girls think it's cool if their thong underwear is being exposed,

but the teenage girls want to look like and MiIey Cyrus-because

they think that it's normal to dress that way and abnormal to dress where most of

your body parts are covered up. Was the dress style the same when you moved to the states by ?

Yes and no, I didn't have to make a great big adjustment to the type of

clothes I was wearing. I moved to South Texas and a lot of the fashlon was

still the same. You could tell us apart by how we dressed but it wasn't that

big of a deal.

Did the people who listened to this type of music as you hang out in certain places?

Where did you go to listen to this music?

Yes we did hang in certain places, we would hang out at each others houses and at

birthday parties and just listen to music, and sometimes we would go out to teen

clubs and dance a little bit. Sometimes we would go to school dances or football

games and just listen to this music in the car. Every now and then people would

have quinceneras or weddings and the dj would play all types of music like I said

earlier gatherings and celebrations invited all the family and all different types of

music would be played, they would play a little something for everybody.

Did your parents like the type of music you were listening to as a teenager?

They didn't really mind what I was listening to; sometimes they didn't

understand what I like about the music or how I could identie with it because to

them it was different or maybe weird some singers they thought were weird was

like Vanilla ice. And MC hammers. To my parents the look or the Goth

phase were extremely different and had a very negative connotation to it. Some people thought that if like if you like that music you are evil or worshp the devil

or you are a vampire. The extreme tattoos and Mohawks were also not very

popular with my family and fiiends.

How did you get this music? Did you buy the cds or records?

No we would all just share the music I would maybe buy one and my

friend would buy one and then we would just burn them and make copies.

It wasn't like the way it is now where everyone has their iPods and mp3

players. A lot of this music was played on the radio so you could just

record it on a tape and make mixes of your favorite songs.

Did you ever get to see any live performances? Where did you see them? What type of

Venue?

Yes as a teenager I was able to see several different groups that would be

considered popular such as Shalura and Luis Miguel. I also saw Red hot chili

peppers and Tool. They usually performed at pretty big stadiums or concert

arenas. I saw most of them in Monterey Mexico and here in the States.

Do you thnk the music that you listen to as a teenager has the same message as the music teenagers are listening to now?

Oh absolutely not. When I was a teenager the music was fairly innocent, even

though Madonna was on the teen scene and talked about virginity and dressed provocatively, it still does not compare to how things are now. Girls showed some

skin but did not take it all off. We used to at least leave a little for the imagination.

The lyrics used to talk about being nervous about going on a date, or about kissing

and holding hands-now the music has such sexually explicit lyrics about sex and

about taking people home with you after the club. Another shocking thing is it is

not just the male artists that use profanity or use sexually explicit lyrics; women

are just as guilty of using those things in their lyrics. Also back then the lyrics

didn't really contain bad words now it's really common to hear bad words in a

song. Back in the 80's when a lot of antidrug campaigns were in effect, such as

DARE aimed at the youth to stay away from drugs. Drugs back then were not

talked about in songs now certain music describes smoking pot and feeling hlgh,

Different pills and how they affect you can sometimes be heard in the lyrics of

songs now. It's almost like putting the idea in their heads to try the drugs because

they are cool or they make you feel good.

Has your taste in music stayed the same since you were a teenager?

No not at all as I got older I kind of got away from listening to Spanish music. I

was exposed to different types of music when I moved into the states. I have a

broad range of music that I liked in my 20's and early 30's.The music I like

ranges from such as Coldplay, to harder stuff like Alanis Morrisette in

this time period I really like everything a little bit of even though im not sure of the band name or group name I like It. I liked a little bit of hard

core rock like tool and Metallica. I guess it just depended on the mood I was in.

Did your family and fiiends influence what you were listening to at this time?

Yes if I was hanging out with fiiends and we were going to get dressed up and go

out then I like music that was fun to dance to and that was upbeat These nights

sometimes we would have a few drinks and then go out dancing all night and just

having fun..If we were just hanging out having a few beers at some ones

apartment or at little holes in the wall bars I guess I liked bands like Red hot Chili

peppers and Tool. If I was with family or my parents I might listen to Luis Miguel

or some other solo artist that was easy to listen to.

Do different types of music affect your mood?

Yes it does, Rock now gets me prefty irritated and does not relax me at all. I feel

like it gets me angry or irritable. Not all music does but it has changed s o much I

really don't listen to the radio or to certain music anymore.

Have you ever used music as an escape?

Not so much as an escape but some music has helped me cope with different

situations. I use music in different ways. I use music to get me motivated at the

gym ,I use music to relax me when I feel high strung and I sometimes like to listen to music to help me fall asleep .Music is also used to help me celebrate

different events with family and friends.

So as you got older you said your taste in music has changed. What do you find yourself listening to now?

Lately the type of music that I find myself listening to now is mainly Christian

music. It is a very type of music that really helps me to relax and

unwind. This music makes me feel at peace when I have had a bad day or when I

am feeling irritable or moody. It helps me to find patience to deal with the stress

of balancing a full time job and being a mother to two small children.

Does this type of music wish to accomplish something with their lyrics?

Oh yes they do. The music I listen to wants to bring awareness about God into

your life. They want to bring the Gospel into your busy day and remind you of

what's important .Sometimes I am driving around between patients or maybe

stuck in traffic and if I listen to this music it seems to erase the frustrations that

are building up. I like to listen to it on my way to pick the children up from school

after a long day. I recently bought a cd that I can pop in and it really helps to relax

me and also helps me distress before I get to the kids so that way I can have the

patience for the evening routine.

Do you think that since you identify yourself as a Christian music fan you are looked at or thought of or judged differently?

No I never really noticed anybody thinking my music is different .I don't usually

care too much about what other people think so maybe that's why I haven't

noticed. My musical interest shouldn't really matter to anybody anyway. Do you think your musical interest has an influence on your children?

I hope that it does at least get them familiar to certain beliefs. The music does not

contain any bad words or lyrics that are negative or sexual and I think that it is a

good clean type of music for them to hear. The kids do have Disney radio in the

car and I prefer them to listen to that because it is more age appropriate but I don't

mind them listening to Christian music. I rarely hear any radio when they are with

me because the songs contain bad words and I don't want them to learn stuff like

that at such a young age-If I can keep their world clean for them then I think that

is what is most important .I feel the same way about television, I do not allow tv

shows that promote violence or sex or fighting behavior to be on when my 3yr old

and 22 month old are around.

What do you think is the future of music?

Personally I feel like music is going downhill, not all of it is bad but there is such

a large amount of artists that choose to mention sex and drugs or maybe a few bad

words in their music, I guess if they have a large following of fans then I guess

they will continue to make this kind of music but I really think the producers and

recording labels should get the teen pop stars to clean up their act and do things

that are good like be of service to their community and not just some star with a

body that can be exploited. These stars have young girls that look up to them and

that consider them role models. They should act like role models and dress

appropriately and sing about reaching your goals and not about going to the club

and getting drunk. I just don't think music had to turn to such bad words and ideas. I refuse to believe that that is what our generation wants to put into the minds of our young ones. So I guess I just chose not to listen to it. And I choose not to let my kids listen to it until they reach a certain age or until I think its gotten cleaned up.

Well, we have discussed several different factors as we did this oral history, such as what was popular in Mexico and what was popular in the states .We also compared the dress style of the 80's .Do you have any other insight or anything you want to add?

Well it did help me to look back and remember the funtimes of being a teenager.

It also reminded me of a time that was more innocent and not so vulgar. Even though I used to like a lot of my taste has really changed.

I agree, I think as we get older all of our tastes changes a little.

Thank you for your insight and for agreeing to do ths interview. I appreciate your time and insight into your past years in Mexico and in the states.