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OFFICIAL RECORD of PROCEEDINGS Friday, 16 October LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 16 October 2015 293 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Friday, 16 October 2015 The Council continued to meet at Nine o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE JASPER TSANG YOK-SING, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ALBERT HO CHUN-YAN THE HONOURABLE LEE CHEUK-YAN THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE CHAN KAM-LAM, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG THE HONOURABLE EMILY LAU WAI-HING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE TAM YIU-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE FREDERICK FUNG KIN-KEE, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE VINCENT FANG KANG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-HING, B.B.S., M.H. 294 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 16 October 2015 PROF THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P., Ph.D., R.N. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CYD HO SAU-LAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE LAM TAI-FAI, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-CHE THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, S.B.S. THE HONOURABLE IP KWOK-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE ALAN LEONG KAH-KIT, S.C. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KWOK-HUNG THE HONOURABLE ALBERT CHAN WAI-YIP THE HONOURABLE WONG YUK-MAN LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 16 October 2015 295 THE HONOURABLE CLAUDIA MO THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL TIEN PUK-SUN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE NG LEUNG-SING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STEVEN HO CHUN-YIN, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE FRANKIE YICK CHI-MING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE WU CHI-WAI, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YIU SI-WING, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE GARY FAN KWOK-WAI THE HONOURABLE MA FUNG-KWOK, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHARLES PETER MOK, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHI-CHUEN THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAN-PAN, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE KENNETH CHAN KA-LOK THE HONOURABLE CHAN YUEN-HAN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG CHE-CHEUNG, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LEUNG THE HONOURABLE ALICE MAK MEI-KUEN, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE KWOK KA-KI THE HONOURABLE KWOK WAI-KEUNG 296 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 16 October 2015 THE HONOURABLE DENNIS KWOK THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHEUNG WAH-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE SIN CHUNG-KAI, S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE HELENA WONG PIK-WAN THE HONOURABLE IP KIN-YUEN DR THE HONOURABLE ELIZABETH QUAT, J.P. THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LIAO CHEUNG-KONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE POON SIU-PING, B.B.S., M.H. THE HONOURABLE TANG KA-PIU, J.P. IR DR THE HONOURABLE LO WAI-KWOK, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHUNG KWOK-PAN THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TONY TSE WAI-CHUEN, B.B.S. MEMBERS ABSENT: DR THE HONOURABLE LAU WONG-FAT, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KA-LAU THE HONOURABLE JAMES TIEN PEI-CHUN, G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE FERNANDO CHEUNG CHIU-HUNG DR THE HONOURABLE CHIANG LAI-WAN, J.P. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 16 October 2015 297 PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE MRS CARRIE LAM CHENG YUET-NGOR, G.B.S., J.P. THE CHIEF SECRETARY FOR ADMINISTRATION PROF THE HONOURABLE ANTHONY CHEUNG BING-LEUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING THE HONOURABLE EDDIE NG HAK-KIM, S.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION PROF SOPHIA CHAN SIU-CHEE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR FOOD AND HEALTH THE HONOURABLE PAUL CHAN MO-PO, M.H., J.P. SECRETARY FOR DEVELOPMENT CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MISS ODELIA LEUNG HING-YEE, DEPUTY SECRETARY GENERAL MS DORA WAI, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MR MATTHEW LOO, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL 298 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 16 October 2015 MEMBERS' MOTIONS PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Good morning, everyone. This Council will continue with the debate on the two motions under the Legislative Council (Powers and Privileges) Ordinance. I would like to remind Members that the meeting held on Friday morning will usually be suspended at around 1 pm. However, as mentioned in the notice distributed earlier to Members on the arrangement of this meeting, if these two motions cannot be disposed of at around 1 pm but the business is believed to be possibly finished before 2 pm, I will announce suspension of meeting after these two motions are completely dealt with. I understand that the time of suspension will affect the activity arrangements of Members and government officials in the afternoon. I will, therefore, make a judgment as early as possible and inform you when the meeting will be suspended. I also hope that Members can be supportive. For those Members who intend to speak, please indicate your wish as soon as possible so that I have the idea when Members' speaking will come to an end. Dr Priscilla LEUNG, please speak. MOTIONS UNDER THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL (POWERS AND PRIVILEGES) ORDINANCE (Mr Albert CHAN stood up) PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Mr Albert CHAN, what is your point? MR ALBERT CHAN (in Cantonese): President, please summon the Chairman and Deputy Chairman of the Committee who are powerful and influential back to the Legislative Council meeting. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 16 October 2015 299 PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Mr Albert CHAN asked for a headcount. Will the Clerk please ring the bell to summon Members back to the Chamber. (While the summoning bell was ringing, Mr IP Kwok-him stood up and spoke) PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Mr IP Kwok-him, please repeat your question. MR IP KWOK-HIM (in Cantonese): I would like to ask for clarification from the President. Should the Member mention that a quorum is not present before he can ask for the summon bell to ring in order to summon the Members back? PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Under the Rules of Procedure, any Member can point out to the President at any time that a quorum is not present. It is not stated in the Rules of Procedure in what way should this be pointed out. However, in accordance with the Rules of Speaking, a Member should not make a long speech by way of pointing out that a quorum is not present. Mr Albert CHAN has just pointed out that a quorum is not present. Therefore, I now have to summon Members back to the Chamber. (After the summoning bell had been rung, a number of Members returned to the Chamber) PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Dr Priscilla LEUNG, please speak. Continuation of debate on motion which was moved on 14 October 2015 DR PRISCILLA LEUNG (in Cantonese): President, the lead-in-fresh water turmoil at the start of this summer break triggered panic in society. Judging from the intensity of public panic, this was not just a turmoil, but should rightly be called a storm. In Kowloon West, the problem of excess lead in drinking water was found in a number of housing estates, including Kai Ching Estate, Wing Cheong Estate, Hung Hom Estate, Shek Kip Mei Estate and Un Chau Estate. The affected residents were all panicky; some were too frightened to drink the water while others did not even dare to take a shower. I think this was really a big event in Hong Kong. 300 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 16 October 2015 To help the affected estate residents, some District Council members from the Kowloon West New Dynamic and I myself joined hands with engineering and water quality experts, lawyers and paediatricians to form an expert group, using community efforts to support these families. We visited families having children with signs of slow development. Our main question for them was about the kind of assistance they desired most. Their replies were invariably: first, assistance; second, also assistance; and third, immediate assistance. Speaking of immediate assistance, I think the Government should be reprimanded because it was slow in action. Even on the installation of special filters for the residents, it still procrastinated for a long time. In addition to visiting the families concerned, we also helped them raise funds to make immediate purchase of special filters. In this regard, I think the Government should have shown greater human compassion. It should seek an in-depth understanding of the difficulties faced by the affected families and visit them right away to ask them what assistance they expected from the Government. As regards water supply, although the Government was somewhat slow in response, it still provided distilled water and deployed vehicles to supply water. Basically, people found the Government's performance acceptable. The Government must provide support for the community and the families concerned. This is very important. However, I do not think that the Government has taken any action at all. What is meant by support for the community? In case of panic in the community, the first and foremost task of Government should be to deploy experts and manpower to assist the affected families.
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