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Unrevised Hansard National Assembly Tuesday, 27 UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL ASSEMBLY TUESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2020 Page: 1 TUESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2020 ____ PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ____ The House met at 14:00. The House Chairperson, Ms M G Boroto, took the Chair and requested members to observe a moment of silence for prayer or meditation. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT OF AD HOC COMMITTEE ON APPOINTMENT OF AUDITOR-GENERAL OF SOUTH AFRICA The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto): Hon members, in the interest of safety for all in the Chamber, please keep your mask on and sit at your designated areas. Already I can see some who are not sitting at their designated areas. Please try to ... Sepedi: Mokone! O batametše kudu. Agaa, Mokone nke o šute gannyane. English: UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL ASSEMBLY TUESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2020 Page: 2 The second issue is that we request every member to sign the attendance slips. Can somebody assist Mokone where to sit? Thank you. Ms N G TOLASHE: Hon House Chair, it is an honour for me to stand before this House to table the report of the Ad hoc Committee on the Appointment of the Auditor-General of SA. As you will recall, some few months ago this House resolved to establish an Ad hoc Committee on the Appointment of the Auditor-General of SA. The committee was then mandated to nominate a person in terms of section 193 of the Constitution for the appointment of the Auditor-General. It was further mandated to report to the House on the nomination of such a person. It was not easy to execute such a unique and momentous task amidst the risk of a pandemic that is still ravaging our country. Despite those challenges, we have managed to execute our mandate in a manner which was fair, free and transparent. We further executed our mandate without fear, favour or prejudice in all regards. Hon House Chair, it is worth noting that we had embarked on this process of searching for a suitable candidate to lead the Office of the Auditor-General in the midst of a wide range of allegations of corruption facing our country. Those allegations of corruption have, to some extent, the potential to erode our people’s UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL ASSEMBLY TUESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2020 Page: 3 confidence in our government, in which they have put their trust. Therefore, we have to ensure that this committee recommends a person who will be beyond reproach to ensure that the Auditor- General of SA is a supreme audit institution which exists to strengthen our country’s democracy by enabling accountability and oversight in the public sector through auditing, thereby building public confidence. After a rigorous process of searching for the calibre of the person who will be suitable to lead this critical constitutional institution, we have unanimously agreed to recommend the name of Ms Tsakani Maluleke. [Interjections.] [Applause.] I must say that this was not an easy decision to arrive at, taking into consideration the quality of the candidates we interviewed. I can safely say that the majority of the candidates we interviewed were not too far to be considered to fill this position. However, Ms Maluleke emerged as an outstanding candidate based on how she provided excellent responses to questions during the interview which not only demonstrated her abilities, but also her experience which is suitable to the office. Furthermore, her experience as the current Deputy Auditor-General serves as an added advantage when considering continuity in the institution. UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL ASSEMBLY TUESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2020 Page: 4 Hon Chairperson, it is therefore, a pleasure for me to be part of the history in making by standing before this House and recommending the name of a woman to be considered as the Auditor- General of SA. [Applause.] This is the first time this happens in our history since the dawn of democracy. This becomes more impressive considering the fact that history is happening in a male-dominated sector. I have no doubt that the appointment of Ms Maluleke as the first woman to occupy the position of AG will contribute to the empowerment of women, which is in tandem with the resolution taken by the ANC at its 54th conference. This requires that - in all we do - we have to ensure that we increase the level of women empowerment in all sectors. Actually, gender mainstreaming and the empowerment of women have always been at the centre of the government of a democratic South Africa. Let me thank all the members of the committee who showed confidence in me by electing me as the chairperson. I have learned a lot from working with you, hon members. You were so dedicated and committed to ensuring that this committee achieves its mandate by being non-partisan. I thank you for that Mathandazo. In conclusion, I therefore recommend on behalf of the committee, the name of Ms Tsakani Maluleke to be nominated as the Auditor-General of SA. I thank you. [Applause.] UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL ASSEMBLY TUESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2020 Page: 5 AN HON MEMBER: Malibongwe! The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto): Hon members on virtual platform, let me remind you that, by not being in the House you are losing the privilege of pressing your mics whether for praising or heckling. Once you press that mic, it means you have been allowed to speak. So, please don’t do it! Leave it to those in the House to do it because they are not pressing any mic. Thank you very much, hon members. I will now recognise the parties wishing to make a declaration. Hon De Villiers, who is making his maiden speech, will do it on behalf of the DA. [Applause.] Declarations of vote: Mr J N DE VILLIERS: Chair, it is an honour for me to stand here today not only to do my maiden speech but on such an important occasion. Last week in this House, the DA’s leader, John Steenhuisen, made a call to the President asking that we work together to push through the reforms that will fix South Africa. The DA has repeatedly made calls to the President to put the country before the party. In this committee, I saw first-hand what happens when a group of politicians from different parties sit together and decide to act not in the best interest of their parties but in the best interest UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL ASSEMBLY TUESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2020 Page: 6 of our country. [Applause.] The Ad hoc Committee on the Appointment of the new Auditor-General reached a unanimous agreement that Ms Tsakani Maluleke was the best candidate put forward for the position. I am happy to report that the interview process was fair, transparent and above any suspicion. As an experienced Chartered Accountant, Ms Maluleke has the necessary public finance management and audit experience. She has the technical know-how and leadership abilities to steer the vitally-important Office of the Auditor-General at a time when dependable audits of government entities are more important than ever. Ms Maluleke was not chosen because she has certain political affiliations but she was chosen because she is the best person for the job. [Applause.] All the final shortlisted candidates were impressive and professional in the final interviews, and I would like to thank them for putting themselves forward as candidates. I cannot, and will not lecture Ms Maluleke on the responsibilities of her new office because she has been serving there as the Deputy Auditor- General since 2014, and few people would understand the role and responsibilities of the AG as well as she does. The DA is confident she will put South Africa first and steer the Office of the Auditor-General fairly, transparently and efficiently. UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL ASSEMBLY TUESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2020 Page: 7 However, I would like to talk about the new opportunity presented to the Office of the Auditor-General at a time where decades of government corruption and not a virus or pandemic, have brought our country to the verge of a fiscal cliff. There has never been a better time for the Office of the Auditor-General to use its newly-acquired powers. As Ms Maluleke will well-know, last year in April 2019, the AG received the powers to mandate government officials implicated in corruption to be held personally liable. That’s right, the AG now has the authority to make government officials implicated in stealing taxpayers’ money pay back that money out of their own pockets. Afrikaans: Uit hulle eie sakke uit. English: To date, we have not seen the AG use these powers to great effect but could there be a better time for the AG to start using those powers than now? Ms Maluleke now has the power to help fix South Africa as she will have the authority to order officials to give back what was unlawfully taken from taxpayers. It is my sincere hope that Ms Maluleke will be brave enough to flex these new muscles and persistent enough to put South Africa first in all that she does. The DA supports the recommendation of the committee UNREVISED HANSARD NATIONAL ASSEMBLY TUESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2020 Page: 8 and congratulates Ms Maluleke on her appointment as the new Auditor-General of SA. I thank you. [Applause.] Ms N V MENTE: House Chairperson, the EFF want to send well-wishes to the outgoing Auditor-General, Mr Kimi Makwetu... The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto): Hon Mente, I’m sorry. There is a sound like a radio where you are.
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