Volume III Monday No. 6 19th September, 1966

PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES

DEWAN NEGARA (SENATE)

OFFICIAL REPORT

THIRD SESSION OF THE SECOND PARLIAMENT OF MALAYSIA

CONTENTS

ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MR PRESIDENT­ Proclamation of Emergency in Sarawak [Col. 725) Leave of Ab>ence-Tan Sri Ong Yoke Lin, P.M.N. [Col. 726] Message from the House of Representatives [Col. 727] ADJOURNMENT SINE DIE (Motion) [Col. 726] EXEMPTED BUSINESS (Motion) [Cot 726] SUSPENSION OF SITTING (Motion) (Col. 726] BILL- The Emergency (Federal Constitution and Constitution of Sarawak) Bill [Col. 728]

Dl-CHETAK Dl·IABATAN CHETAK KERAIAAN OLEH 00! THEAM HOCK, PENOUASA, !POH 1968

MALAYSIA DEWAN NEGARA (SENATE) Official Report

Vol. III Third Session of the Second Dewan Negara No. 6

Monday, 19th September, 1966

The Senate met at Two-thirty o'clock p.m.

PRESENT: The Honourable Mr President, DATO' HAJJ ABDUL RAHMAN BIN MOHAMED y ASIN, S.P.M.J., P.I.S., J.P. (Johor). TUAN A. ARUNASALAM, A.M.N. (Appointed). TUAN ABDUL RAHMAN BIN AHMAD (Perlis). TUAN ABDUL SAMAD BIN OSMAN, P.J.K. (Appointed). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN HAJI ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Penang). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN HAn ABDUL MANAP, P.P.N. (Melaka). PUAN AISHAH BINTI HAJI ABDUL GHANI (Appointed). PUAN BIBI AISHA BINTI HAMID DON, A.M.N. (Appointed). TUAN AMALUDDIN BIN DARUS (Kelantan). DATO' JoSEPH AUGUSTINE ANGIAN ANDULAG, P.D.K. (Sabah). TUAN AwANG DAUD MATUSIN (Appointed). DATU TUANKU BUJANG BIN TUANKU HAJI OTHMAN (Sarawak). TUAN CHAN KEONG HON (Appointed). TUAN CHAN KwoNG-HON, J.M.N., s.M.s, J.P. (Selangor). DATO' DR CHEAH TOON LOK, D.P.M.K., D.M.K., J.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). DATO' J. E. S. CRAWFORD, D.P.M.P., J.M.N., J.P., Dato' Kurnia Indera (Appointed). · TUAN D. s. DORAi RAJ, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Appointed). DATO' Foo SEE MOI, D.P.M.K., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN GAN TECK YEOW, J.M.N. (Appointed). TUAN GOH CHEK KIN, P.J.K. (Trengganu). TUAN HOH CHEE CHEONG, A.M.N., J.P. (Pahang). TUAN HONG KIM Sm (Appointed). TUAN c. D. ISMAIL, J.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN ANDREW JIKA LANDAU (Appointed). TUAN KOH KIM LENG (Melaka). DATO' LEE FOONG YEE, J.M.N., P.P.T., J.P. (Negri Sembilan). DATO' Y. T. LEE, D.P.M.S., J.M.N., P.J.K., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN LIM HEE HONG, J.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN LIM JOOK KONG, J.P. (Kedah). TUAN MOHAMAD ADIB BIN OMAR, P.J.K. (Trengganu). DATU PENGIRAN MOHAMED DIGADONG GALPAM, P.D.K. (Sabah). 723 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 724 The Honourable TAN SRI HAJI MOHAMED NOAH BIN OMAR, P.M.N., s.P.M.J., D.P.M.B., P.I.S., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN HAJI MOHAMED SAAID BIN HAJI ABU BAKAR (Appointed). DATO' ATHI NAHAPPAN, D.P.M.S. (Appointed). TUAN S. P. S. NATHAN (Appointed). NIK HASSAN BIN HAn NIK YAHYA J.M.N. (Appointed). TOK PANGKU PANDAK HAMID BIN PuTEH JALI, P.J.K. (Appointed). TUAN SAIDON BIN KECHUT, A.M.N. (Appointed). DATO' SHEIKH ABU BAKAR BIN YAHYA, AL-HAJ, D.P.M.J., P.l.S., J.P. (Johor). TAN SRI G. SHELLEY, P.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN SYED AHMAD BIN SYED MAHMUD SHAHABUDIN, J.M.N., S.M.K., J.P. (Kedah). TUAN SYED DARUS BIN SYED HASHIM (Perlis). TUAN WILLIAM TAN (Appointed). TAN SRI T. H. TAN, P.M.N. (Appointed). DATO' E. E. C. THURAISINGHAM, D.P.M.J., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN s. 0. K. UBAIDULLA, J.M.N. (Appointed). DATO' WAN IBRAHIM BIN WAN TANJONG, J.M.N., P.J.K., Orang Kaya Indera Maharaja Purba Jelai (Pahang). WAN MusTAPHA BIN HAn WAN Au, s.M.K. (Kelantan). WAN SULAIMAN BIN WAN TAM, P.J.K. (Appointed). TUAN YAHYA BIN AHMAD, P.J.K. (Negri Sembilan). TUAN y AHYA BIN HAJI AHMAD (Perak). TUAN YEOH KIAN TEIK (Perak).

ABSENT: The Honourable the Minister without Portfolio, TAN SRI ONG YOKE LIN, P.M.N. (Appointed). TUAN CHEAH SENG KHIM, J.P. (Penang). TEMENGGONG OYONG LAWAI JAU (Sarawak). RAJA RASTAM SHAHROME BIN RAJA SAID TAUPHY (Selangor).

IN ATTENDANCE: The Honourable the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defence and Minister of National and Rural Development, TuN HAJI ABDUL RAZAK BIN DATO' HUSSAIN, S.M.N. (Pekan). the Minister of Home Affairs and Minister of Justice, TUN DR ISMAIL BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN, S.S.M., P.M.N. (Johor Timor). the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications, TAN SRI v. T. SAMBANTHAN, P.M.N. (Sungei Siput). the Minister of Education, TUAN MOHAMED KHIR JOHAR! (Kedah Tengah). the Minister for Welfare Services, TUAN HAJI ABDUL HAMID KHAN BIN HAn SAKHAWAT Au KHAN, J.M.N., J.P. (Batang Padang). the Minister of Lands and Mines, TUAN ABDUL-RAHMAN BIN Y A'KUB (Sarawak). 725 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 726 PRAYERS LEAVE OF ABSENCE-Tan Sri Ong Yoke Lin, P.M.N. (Mr President in the Chair) Mr President: Ahli2 Yang Berhor­ mat, saya suka hendak mema'alumkan ANNOUNCEMENTS BY kapada Majlis Dewan Negara ia-itu MR PRESIDENT menurut kuasa yang terserah kapada PROCLAMATION OF saya, saya telah membenarkan Yang EMERGENCY IN SARAWAK Berhormat Tan Sri Ong Yoke Lin. atas permintaan-nya send:ri, berchuti Mr President: Ahli2 Yang Berhormat, dengan rasmi-nya daripada mengha­ Dewan Negara mengadakan meshu­ dhiri meshuarat2 Dewan Negara dari­ arat-nya pada kali ini kerana menurut pada 8hb Oktober, 1966 hingga 8hb Perishtiharan yang telah di-buat oleh April, 1967. Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Yang di-Pertuan Agong. Se­ karang saya minta Setia-usaha Dewan ADJOURNMENT SINE DIE Negara membachakan Perishtiharan (MOTION) itu. Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, (Whereupon the Clerk of the Senate Sir, I beg to move. reads the Proclamation) That at its rising today the Senate shall stand adjourned sine die. "PROCLAMATION OF Dato' Y. T. Lee: Sir, I beg to second EMERGENCY the motion. Question put, and agreed to. The Federal Constitution Resolved, By His Majesty the Yang di-Pertuan Agong. That at its rising today the Senate shall by the Grace of God of the States and stand adjourned sine die. Territories of Malaysia, Supreme Head.

(Public Seal) EXEMPTED BUSINESS (MOTION) TUANKU ISMAIL NAS!RUDDIN SHAH, Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, Sir, I beg to move, Whereas we are satisfied that a grave Emer­ That, notwithstanding the provisions of gency exists whereby the security of a part Standing Order 11, the Senate shall not of the Federation, to wit the State of Sara­ adjourn today until consideration of all Go­ wak, is threatened : vernment business set out on the Order Paper for today has been completed. AND WHEREAS Article 150 of the Con­ stitution provides that in the said circum­ Dato' Y. T. Lee: Sir, I beg to second stances We may issue a Proclamation of the motion. Emergency: Now, THEREFORE, We, Tuanku Ismail Quest:on put, and agreed to. Nasiruddin Shah ibni Al-Marhum Al-Sultan Resolved, Zainal Abidin, by the Grace of God of the That, notwithstanding the provisions 1 of States and territories of Malaysia Yang di­ Standing Order 11, the Senate shall not Pertuan Agong in exercise of the powers adjourn today until consideration of all Go­ aforesaid do hereby proclaim that a State of vernment business set out on the Order Emergency exists, and that this Proclama­ Paper for today has been completed. tion shall extend throughout the territories of the State of Sarawak. Given at Kuala Trengganu, this fourteenth SUSPENSION OF SITTING day of September, one thousand nine hun­ dred and sixty-six. (MOTION}- Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, By His Majesty's Command, Sir, I beg to move, That, notwithstanding the provisions of TUN HAJI ABDUL RAZAK Standing Order 11 (1), this sitting of the BIN DATO' HUSSAIN, Senate shall now be suspended until 6 p.m. Deputy Prime Minister" today. 727 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 728 Sir, I would like to explain that the menerima satu perutusan daripada De­ purpose of the special meeting of the wan Ra'ayat. Sekarang saya jemput-lah Senate today is to consider the Emer­ Setia-usaha Dewan Negara membacha­ gency (Federal Constitution and Con­ kan perutusan itu. stitution of Sarawak) Bill, 1966. How­ (The Clerk reads the Message) ever, this Bill has not yet been transmitted to the Senate by the House "Mr President, of Representatives. Hence the need to The House of Representatives has passed suspend the sitting until 6 p.m. today the Bill to amend the Federal Constitution by which time it is hoped that the and to make provision with respect to cer­ tain constitutional matters in the State of Bill concerne9 would have been passed Sarawak, consequent upon a Proclamation by the House of Representatives. of Emergency having been issued and being in force in that State, and transmits it to Dato' Y. T. Lee: Sir, I beg to second the Senate for its concurrence. the motion. Question put, and agreed to. (Sgd.) DATO' C. M. YUSOF, Speaket." Resolved, That, notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 11 (1), this sitting of the BILLS Senate shall now be suspended until 6 p.m. today. THE EMERGENCY (FEDERAL Sitting suspended at 2.45 p.m. CONSTITUTION AND CONSTITU­ Sitting resumed at 6.QO p.m. TION OF SARAWAK) BILL (Mr President in the Chair) Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President. Sir, I beg to move that the Emergency Mr President: Ahli2 Yang Berhormat, Federal Constitution and Constitution ada-lah saya nyatakan Rang Undang2 of Sarawak) Bill be read a second time. ''the Emergency (Federal Constitution and Constitution of Sarawak) Bill, Dato' Y. T. Lee: Mr President, Sir, 1966" belum lagi di-luluskan oleh I beg to second. ·• Dewan Ra 'ayat. Dengan demikian saya The Minister of Land and Mines tanggohkan meshuarat ini hingga pukul (Tuan Abdul Rahman bin Ya'kub): 7.00 petang hari ini. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Kerajaan telah Sitting suspended at 6.05 p.m. meminta supaya di-adakan emergency Sitting resumed at 7.00 p.m. meeting-persidangan tergempar Par­ Iimen, Dewan Ra'ayat dan Dewan (Mr President in the Chair) Negara, pada hari ini ia-lah supaya Mr President: Ahli2 Yang Berhormat, mengikut kemahuan Perlembagaan kita sa-kali lagi ada-lah saya nyatakan Fasal 150. Sa-bagaimana Yang Berhor­ bahawa hingga masa ini, Rang Un­ mat Senator2 sakalian sedia ma'alum, dang2 "the Emergency (Federal Con­ beberapa hari yang _lalu Duli Yang stitution and Constitution of Sarawak) Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Bill, 1966" belum lagi di-luluskan oleh Yang di-Pertuan Agong telah meng­ Dewan Ra'ayat. Dengan demikian saya ishtiharkan keadaan dharurat atau tanggohkan meshuarat ini hingga pukul emergency yang baru di-Sarawak, 9 .15 nialam ini. timbul daripada political crisis yang Sitting suspended at 7.05 p.m. telah berlaku di-sana. Sitting resumed at 9.15 p.m. Tuan Yang di-Pert'Ua, keadaan di­ Sarawak dalam beberapa hari yang (Mr President in the Chair) lalu, di-anggap oleh Kerajaan meng­ ancham keselamatan dan keamanan MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE di-dalam negeri itu. Oleh kerana itu OF REPRESENTATIVES TO THE Kerjaan Pusat, yang bertanggong jawab SENATE dalam masaalah keselamatan negara, akan chuai dalam tugas-nya, jika tidak Mr President: Ahli2 Yang Berhormat mengambil langkah2 yang segara untok telah di-ma'alumkan ia-itu saya telah menjaga keselamatan dalam negeri it'll. 729 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 730 Maka ini-lah sebab-nya Rang Undang2 Dato' Stephen Ningkan, yang telah ini di-bentangkan untok di-bahath di­ memberitahu Tuan Yang Terutama dalam Dewan Negara pada hari ini. Governor Sarawak yang mereka tidak lagi mempunyai keperchayaan kapada Tuan Yang di-Pertua, crisis politik Dato' Stephen Kalong Ningkan, mereka di-Sarawak berlaku mulai dari per­ ini telah juga meminta beberapa kali tengahan bulan enam tahun ini. Pada kapada Speaker dan Council Negri masa itu 21 orang Ahli2 Majlis Negeri Sarawak dan kapada Ketua Menteri Sarawak, atau pun Council Negri, telah Sarawak, Dato' Stephen Kalong Ning­ meminta Ketua Menteri Sarawak me­ kan sendiri, supaya di-adakan per­ letakkan jawatan-nya sa-bagai Ketua sidangan Council Negri Sarawak untok Menteri Sarawak dan apabila beliau menyelesaikan crisis politik yang telah tidak mahu berbuat demikian maka 2 berlaku, tetapi permohonan daripada sakalian ahli ini telah menulis surat waki12 ra'ayat ini telah di-tolak oleh kapada Tuan Yang Terutama Governor Dato' Stephen Kalong Ningkan dan Sarawak menerangkan bahawa semua Dato' Stephen Kalong Ningkan terus 21 Ahli Council Negeri itu tidak lagi menjalankan tugas-nya sa-bagai Ketua mempunyai keperchayaan kapada ketua Menteri Sarawak sunggoh pun sokong Menteri ia-itu Dato' Stephen Kalong kapada beliau dalam Council Negri Ningkan. Bukan dengan chara surat Chuma ada 7 orang sahaja, 6 daripada sahaja, bahkan kesemua 21 orang it'll sendiri telah pergi ka-Istana Kuching Sarawak National Party dan 1 daripada berjumpa Tuan Governor sendiri. Parti Negara Sarawak. Dengan ada-nya bukti bahawa Dato' Dengan hal yang demikian bererti­ Stephen Ningkan tidak lagi di-per­ lah bahawa Dato' Stephen Kalong chayai oleh sa-gulongan yang besar Ningkan tidak mengikut perinsip2 daripada Ahli2 Council Negri di­ demokrasi dan tidak patoh kapada Sarawak, maka Tuan Governor telah kemahuan Perlembagaan. Jadi pera­ meminta Dato' Stephen Ningkan me­ letakkan jawatan-nya mengikut ke­ saan marah dan perasaan tidak puas hati di-kalangan wakil2 ra'ayat yang hendak Perlembagaan Sarawak, Fasal 2 7, tetapi Ketua Menteri Sarawak enggan mewakili sa-gulongan besar ra'ayat berbuat demikian dan oleh sebab itu Sarawak berasa keadaan yang bagini Tuan Governor Sarawak telah meme­ tidak boleh terus lagi berjalan. Keadaan chat beliau daripada jawatan-nya. yang tegang telah timbul dan kita telah Akhir-nya, Ketua Menteri Sarawak dengar dalam akhbar dan juga t'elah telah mengambil satu tindakan dan menerima report2 daripada pehak yang mengambil satu saman di-Mahkamah berkenaan dari Kuching bahawa jika dan Mahkamah telah memberi keputu­ kita tidak mengambil tindakan segera san pada 7hb September ini ia-itu Tuan untok menjaga keselamatan dalam Governor tidak mempunyai kuasa di­ negeri Sarawak, harus keadaan negeri bawah Perlembagaan Sarawak untok Sarawak itu yang ada tawarikh2 yang memechat Ketua Menteri, dan Mah­ bagitu burok beberapa tahun dahulu, kamah juga memberi keputusan ia-itu akan meletup dan perkara yang tidak chuma satu chara sahaja bagi Ahli2 kita ingini harus sa-.kali lagi berlaku Council Negri Sarawak menentukan dalam negeri Sarawak. kehilangan keperchayaan mereka ter­ hadap Dato' Stephen Kalong Ningkan Tujuan Rang Undang2 yang di­ ia-itu menerusi undi tidak perchaya di­ hadapan Dewan Negara ini ia-lah untok dalam Council Negri. menentukan bahawa perinsip2 demo­ krasi itu di-ikuti dan juga semangat Dari segi undang2, maka nyata-lah bahawa Dato' Stephen Nigkan ada-lah Perlembagaan kita di-ikuti supaya maseh lagi menjadi Ketua Menteri Council Negri itu boleh bermeshuarat Sarawak, tetapi daripada kenyataan untok menyelesaikan sengketa atau dari segi politik-nya tidak dapat di­ pun kerisis politik di-Sarawak. Ter­ napikan bahawa 25 orang Ahli Council pulang kapada Council Negeri, me­ Negri Sarawak yang telah mengangkat ngikut Perlembagaan dan juga me­ sumpah, yang telah memberi tahu ngikut hujjah2 loyar Dato' Ningkan 731 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 732 sendiri, menentukan siapa-kah yang dengan sa-berapa segera-nya siapa yang patut menjadi Ketua Menteri di-Sara- di-perchayai oleh gulongan yang besar wak. di-dalam Council Negri Sarawak. "Dl-dalam perbahathan dalain Dewan Rang Undang2 ini menerangkan Ra'.,ayat pada hari ini tadi, Yang Ber­ dengan jelas-nya ia-itu ini ada-lah satu jiofinat Senator2 sakalian. telah hadhir langkah di-bawah Fasal 150 dalam mendengar bahathan itu, telah men­ Perlembagaan kita mengenai keadaan dengar hujjah2 daripada pehak Pem­ dharurat di-Sarawak. Kerajaan Pusat bangkang-SUPP, PPP, DAP dan t;dak berchadang, menerusi Rang Un­ lain2 yang berkata bahawa tindakan dang2 ini, akan menggantong Perlem­ Kerajaan Pusat ada-lah bertentangan bagaan Sarawak saperti yang telah di­ dengan perinsip2 d~mokrasi, ada~lah tudoh oleh beberapa orang dari kala­ bertentangan dengan semangat pepie­ ngan pehak Pembangkang. Kerajaan rentahan demokrasi sa-chara Parlimen, Pusat juga tidak berniat, pada masa ini tetapi kita mempunyai satu keadaan di­ sa-kurang2-nya, hendak menggunakan Sarawak di-mana sa-orang ~etua Men­ kuat-kuasa di-bawah Article 150, Che­ teri . yang tahu diri-nya tidak lagi di­ raian 4, yang mana memberi kuasa perchayai' oleh sa-gulongan besar dari­ penoh ia-itu kuasa executive kapada pada Ahli2 Council Negri yang tidak Kerajaan Pusat untok mentadbir­ mahu menyelesaikan sengketa itu me­ kan negeri Sarawak dengan sa-chara nerusi Council Negri, yang tidak pula "decree." Kerajaan Pusat chuma ber­ menasihatkan Tuan Governor supaya chadang supaya wakil2 ra'ayat Sara­ membubarkan Council Negeri meng­ wak sendiri menyelesaikan kerisis itu. ikut Fasal 7 dalam Perlembagaan Ini-lah chadangan yang terkandong Sarawak, yang terus mahu memerentah dalam Rang Undang2 ini. Oleh kerana, dalam Negeri Sarawak dengan tidak sa-bagaimana yang saya telah kata­ mengindahkan kemahuan wakil2 kan tadi, hampir2 sakalian Yang Ber­ ra'ayat daripada Sarawak. Ini-lah yang hormat Senator2 telah mendengar menyebabkan pertegangan politik ber­ b.ujah2 dalam Dewan Ra'ayat tadi laku di-Sarawak. daripada kenyataan Yang Amat Ber­ Sa-bagaimaila yang di-nyatakan hormat Timbalan Perdana Menteri dan dengan jelas-nya di-dalam Explanatory Yang Berhormat Menteri Hal Ehwal Statement pada hujong Rang Undang2 Dalam Negeri, maka saya rasa tidak ini; langkah2 yang di-ambil ini ia-Iah perlu lagi bagi saya memberi penjelasan sa-masa dharurat ini sahaja untok men­ yang lain daripada apa yang baharu jaga keselamatan negeri Sarawak. Yang saya katakan itu tadi. (Tepok). Berhormat Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: Negeri telah menerangkan dengan jelas­ Mr President, Sir, I think the House nya dalam Dewan Ra'ayat tadi ia-itu will understand that we have been sum­ untok membolehkan pegawai2 kesela­ moned to debate on a matter, which matan kita di-Sarawak menjalankan is a grave and serious one, and I wish tugas mereka dengan sempuma mem­ I could hope that what I must say on bersehkan negeri itu daripada ancha­ the subject would be welcome to my man2 kominis di-Sarawak, mustahak Honourable friends in this House-at sa-kali kita di-Sarawak mempunyai satu least, I am consoled at the start that political stability, jika tidak maka susah­ my Honourable colleague on my right lah mereka itu akan menjalankan would support me. tugas2 mereka dengan sempuma. Poli­ tical instability akan memberi kesem­ Sir, I ask for your forebearance, and patan yang elok sa-kali bagi pehak2 I make no claim on your patience, but kominis-yang berazam hendak meng­ there are things, which it is my duty hanchorkan negeri Sarawak-men-· to say tonight. Of course, at this junc­ jalankan gerakan2 subversive. Jadi ture, I would like to make a slight untok mengadakan political stability observation: after having waited from tidak lain, tidak ada jalan yang laiu 2.30 this afternoon, having come here sa-Iain daripada menyerahkan kapada again two or three times and after a Council Negri Sarawak menentukan good feed, my Honourable friend Tan

------~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~- 733 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 734 Sri Tan will not expect us to talk too a lot of pounding from the Opposition, much. But, as I say, we have to do our and I am glad to hear from my colle­ duty. ague on my right that when the Dewan Ra'ayat concluded its Session this Sir, I have listened with utmost care evening,-if I am wrong, then I must to all that had been said in the Lower be forgiven-all the Opposition Mem­ House this morning. I have gone bers walked out when there was a through very carefully what had been division on this Bill. Here, Sir, I do reported in the papers, not only the not mind telling you a secret of the Malaysian papers but also the East PMIP. We did have a secret meeting Asian papers as well as the United last night and we passed a resolution Kingdom papers. stating that this was an insult to de­ mocracy and that when a division I recollect having seen briefly the should come, when the time arrived, report of the Manchester Guardian, then we would not only have to oppose which is quite a respectable paper in but we would have to walk out. In fact, the United Kingdom, and in its edi­ our leader would say, "Right turn, torial it did comment about the crisis quick march out of the House." But, or the deadlock in Sarawak. Mr Pre­ unfortunately, there were one or two sident, Sir, I am sure you are aware, members in the PMIP who would not and my Honourable friends are also go to that extreme, probably in respect aware, that we fight for justice, and to the Central Government. we safeguard freedom. Whether we like the British or not, whether we like colonialism or not, we must admit that Sir, I am sure everyone of my colle­ in the United Kingdom they always agues did receive a last minute tele­ open their eyes, when there is a con­ gram and when I first received the flict between just and unjust. In that telegram in my office, it never struck paper, because of the crisis in Sara­ me as important. In fact, with due wak, it is stated that if this is the case respect, Dato' President, I thought then that paper would welcome that it was not very important. It was only Soekarno might as well walk in again. after 1.30 p.m. when I was coming down that I heard on the Radio that We have also read the papers from the reason why the telegram was sent Sabah. The Sabah Tribune stated, was because Parliament had to have "This is a hot-bed"-tempat tidor this emergency session to discuss the panas, sunggoh pun dalam bahasa Me­ Sarawak crisis. Now, it may be asked, layu tidak ada tempat tidor panas, te­ how is it that when I first received the tapi berma'ana "This is a hot-bed." telegram it never struck me in the least that we are going to discuss that­ Sir, I am sure my Honourable friends that we have been called here to dis­ will agree that this is a very very seri­ cuss this crisis? The reason why it ous Bill to be passed tonight. If it is never struck me was because, I did not serious, why then should the Central not realise, and it was beyond my Government, or the Federal Govern­ imagination, that Government was ment, or the Alliance Government, take going to pass such a Bill which is to the trouble of calling back the five give absolute discretion to the Governor Ministers? They called back five Minis­ to dismiss the Chief Minister, or even ters, including the Assistant Minister, to sack the Speaker if he would not and even the acting Prime Minister, obey his orders, and I am sure every­ Tun Razak had to postpone his visit one, not only a lawyer but even a lay­ to the United Nations which was scheduled for to-day. From that, we man will understand how dangerous it can judge that this is a serious Bill. is to give discretion to anybody. Even to give discretion to anyone is danger­ The Central Government has to call ous, what else to give absolute discre­ all the Ministers back, because it ex­ tion? When we are giving absolute pects that this Bill will be debated. In discretion, we are giving everything fact, the Central Government expects into his hand. 735 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 736 I would touch later on on what per­ that I was not able to join in the debate sonality the Governor of Sarawak has, in the lower House. I went there as a and I think I am proper to discuss his visitor and I expected the Government personality because he is our Governor, to inform the Lower House, and I and I have met him and it was an expected the Government or Tun honour to meet him. Where? In the Razak to be himself here. court of justice in Kuching, where I AN Ho~OURABLE MEMBER: He is had the honour of ~eeing our Gover­ here! nor in the court of Kuching. I would of Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: course relate to this Honourable House Mr President, Sir, with due respect, I what happened in that court and I am must really apologise, and I must apo­ sure Nik Hassan will not object, he logise to Tun himself, but probably I might not jump up to say that I am just did not notice (Interruption). Since • not relevant, because when we are dis­ he is here, then, I would say that we; cussing this Bill, we can discuss per­ from the Opposition, expected that at sonalities, we can attack any per­ least the Government should have ex­ sonalities, including the Prime Minister plained the reason why this Bill had down to the bottom-and here I do to be passed, should explain whether not mind saying that I am wondering it would be legal, should explain that why our Prime Minister has not come by the passing of this Bill we would back. not break the Constitvtion, we would Sir, I am sure this Bill is quite seri­ not break the convention. All that was ous. We have listened to the Honour­ stated was, "We have to pass this Bill able Acting Prime Minister, when he because of the crisis in Sarawak", and introduced the Bill in the Lower the crisis was emphasised. in fact on House; we have listened to the replies; security-not political crisis, and I did and we have also listened t9 my not know whether it was deliberate learned friend the Honourable Enche' but in any case the Honourable Acting Abdul-Rahman bin Ya'kub; and what Prime Minister just took a matter of is the pattern? All they say is that we half an hour to open the case~ for the have to pass this Bill. because there Government; and within that half an is an emergency in Sarawak and hour all the emphasis was "This is an that if we do not pass this Bill, then the emergency; the Agong has passed a communists will run in-that is what Proclamation; therefore, they have the Governor is also saying. We have acted under Article 150 of the Consti­ to pass this Bill; we have to forget tution." democracy: and I am saying in this Mr President, Sir, the Bill which is House that we have to discard de­ before us. if I· may be allowed to mocracy, just because we fear the com­ read the Bill, says: munists might come in. However, I "Whereas a Proclamation of Emergency say, we do not fear the communists. If has on the fourteenth day of September, the Malaysians fear the communists, 1966 been issued by the Yang di-Pertuan we might as well dig our own graves Agong in respect of a grave emergency which tonight. The Government has never the Yang di-Pertuan Agong is satisfied exists feared the communists. It only says so in the State of Sarawak." on the pretext that this Bill should be I would emphasise on two words there. passed, in order to give power to the In fact I have underlined in red these Governor, so that he might sack Dato' two words, and one of them is "grave". Ningkan. Dato' Ningkan is not my Are we going to believe that there is brother, he is not even in my Party; a grave emergency in Sarawak now? but when a question of principle is at Article 150 can only allow the Govern­ stake, then it is my duty to speak. ment to pass this Proclamation of emergency when there is a grave Mr President, Sir, we have heard emergency. If there is an emergency, what the Honourable Tun Razak has without the word "grave", then the stated this morning, though I was not Government is not empowered to pass a Member of the Lower House; and it, but are we going to believe that at it was rather regretful, if I may say so, this moment, at this hour. at this 737 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 738 second, at this minute, there is a grave clear in the Sarawak Constitution that emergency in Sarawak? I would defi­ the Governor cannot dismiss the nitely say that there is no grave emer­ Chief Minister-he could dismiss the gency, because when the case of Dato' other Ministers or the other Members Kalong Ningkan was tried, when Dato' of the Supreme Council at pleasure Kalong Ningkan sued our Governor­ but not the Chief Minister. we do not mind; from the P.M.I.P. we might accept him as our Governor­ In this particular case, Mr President, when Dato' Kalong Ningkan took the Sir, I thought that it was rather a bad case to the Court against the Governor move on the part of the Central of Sarawak and the Chief Minister, Government to advise the Governor­ Tawi Sli. I happened to be in Kuching. pity that old man-to dismiss Dato' I hope Tun (Dr) Ismail-he is not Kalong Ningkan. If you play chess, here ...... you can know which way you are going to move. Probably, it might be HONOURABLE SENATORS: He is here! some bright-eyed boy who advised the Cabinet. During the reply by the Act­ Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: ing Prime Minister. he did admit that, Well, I see that he is here. (Laughter). he had consulted somebody. I heard I hope my Honourable friend- I might him say, during his reply in the Lower call him as my friend though he is House. "As far as I know, I have been a Minister, of course-will not become advised that Article 150 could override suspicious, when I say that I was in the general provisions of the Law". I Kuching when Dato' Ningkan's case do not know whether the Attorney­ was tried, because I did not go there General had advised the Cabinet or just for the sake of hearing the case­ whether the Cabinet had been advised and I hope the Government will not by some other third parties; I can say accuse me of going to Kuching pro­ categorically that-Article 150, under bably to make love to the communists. which the Government thought that it I happened to be in Kuching two days has got the power to pass this Bill­ before the trial to see a certain Queen's it would be illegal. Of course, in the Counsel, and I think that it is not Lower House there was an assumption necessary for me to disclose why ...... that it might be challengeable. Some­ body stated in the Lower House that AN HONOURABLE SENATOR: Guilty probably this Bill might not be valid, conscience! but I say now that this Bill, if it were Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: to be passed now, might not be legal. It is not guilty conscience. In fact, I went there as a lawyer, not as a poli­ Let us see. A few days before we tician. So, Tun (Dr) Ismail can rest meet today, Dato' Kalong Ningkan did assured, can sleep peacefully, that Wan officially went to see the Governor to Mustapha did not go there to create ask for a general election-and we knew before that he did ask the havoc. I happened to be there and I Governor to hold an election. We took the opportunity of hearing this started thinking why was it that a few case-and it was rather regretful that days before he did go to see the the Governor was not there. I am not Governor to ask for a general election? going to describe what happened There is a reason behind it which I during that trial, but before the trial do not know. He might have a very I could predict that the Government good Queen's Counsel advising him, was go:ng to lose the case. It was but the fact is that he did ask for a rather unfortunate that the Central general election which he is entitled to. Government had not engaged me. I am going to quote authorities for (Laughter). I mean, even if the Central that after this. Government had wanted to engage me for the Governor, I would have refused, I have authorities before me which because I know that it was going to say that the Chief Minister-the lose the case, because everything con­ position of the Chief Minister is equi­ travened the Constitution. It is quite valent to that of the Prime Minister- 739 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 740 has got the right to ask the Governor Abdul Rahman-the beloved Tunku for a general election. It was argued Abdul Rahman you might insist me to by the Government that if the say that-goes to the Yang di-Pertuan Chief Minister had lost the con­ Agong and says, "Your Majesty, I fidence of the Council Negri, then would request for a dissolution." Then, he got to resign. Even then, that that is the only occasion, where the is misleading. I am going to say, Yang di-Pertuan Agong can say, "This supported by authorities,. that even if is a party squabble. I know very well the Chief Minister has lost the con­ that your Party ...... ". fidence of the Council Negri, it is not a "must" for him to resign, because he Tuan Y eoh Kian Teik: Mr President, is entitled to ask for a dissolution and Sir. is it not the case of Sarawak where he is entitled to ask for a general the Chief Minister has lost the con­ election. It is customary for every fidence of the people? Chief Minister to ask for a general Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: election, and it is customary for the Mr President, Sir, I do not think I Head of the State to grant it. I think need reply to that, and I do not know before I stray from my argument, I under what Standing Order my Hon­ might as well quote the authorities on ourable colleague is asking that. which I say why it is possible. I would quote from "Our Parliament", Tuan Y eoh Kian Teik: On a point which is written by Mr Gordon and on of clarification. page 26 it says: Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: "The second prime function of the SC?Ve­ Is it not a point of interruption? Mr reign is to grant or refuse the Prime President, Sir, if my Honourable friend Minister's requests for a dissolution of the Parliament. There is latent prerogative had listened to my argument minutely­ power in the Crown to insist upon a if not minutely, at least casually-he dissolution if it appeared, for instance, that would have seen what I was driving the Ministry or House of Commons no longer represented the wishes of the people; at. because my argument was about but in almost every conceivable case she the Chief Minister. Probably, my ought as usual to act upon the advice of Honourable friend asked me to clarify, her Ministers-here of the Chief Minister. why we are referring to the Prime It has been stated that it has become customary for the Sovereign to grant one Minister, whereas the Bill is connected dissolution to every Prime Minister. If with the Chief Minister. Earlier I have thereafter, however, it seemed that the stated that the position of the Chief request was being improperly made as, for Minister or status is equiva1ent to the instance, if the Prime Minister had differed from the majority of the Cabinet, then she dignity of the Menteri Besar or the might refuse". Prime Minister. It is a question of The only occasion where a sovereign division. If you look up the Constitu­ can refuse a dissolution is, to quote tion-the wording of the Constitution a very easy example, the position in about dissolution regarding the request Malaysia now. We know, with regret, for dissolution and dismissal of the that the Government has got a very Prime Minister- every word fits in vast majority in both Houses of with the State Constitution. In fact, Parliament. We admit that the Alliance at this juncture, I might as well refer to is very strong. It has got a two-third the section regarding dismissal. Under majority. Assuming that now the Article 43 of the Malaysian Constitu­ Members in both Houses dislike our tion, it says here: Tunku they prefer Tun Abdul Razak, "If the Prime Minister ceases to command and every time the Prime Minister the confidence of the majority of the comes to the House of Parliament to Members of the House of Representatives, then, unless at his request the Yang di­ pass a certain resolution he is Pertuan Agong dissolves Parliament, the defeated-whereas in actual fact the Prime Minister shall tender the resignation Alliance Government has got more of the Cabinet". than two-third majority. The result and every word is the same with the would be that no business can be done, State Constitution, for instance of and so the Prime Minister, our Tunku Kelantan, Trengganu, or Sarawak. For 741 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 742 instance, in the Kelantan State Con­ other instance, because it says here, stitution, which is found under Article "Similarly, she might refuse to give a 16 (6), every word is the same, except contingent assurance to create the for the words, "if the Prime Minister" necessary Peers ...... " in the we have the words "if the Menteri United Kingdom in those days, the Besar", and then we have the other Queen was entitled to create Peers words "ceases to command the con­ just to get the vote through. "But it fidence of the majority of the Members must be emphasised that the Sovereign of the House of Assembly, then, unless ...... "-in this case if it happens at his request ...... "-for instance, to Malaysia, the Agong, and if it if it is the State Constitution-"then, happens to Sarawak, the Governor­ unless at his request the Sultan dis­ "'could only take these steps in the solves Assembly". And in the case most exceptional circumstances, since of Sarawak, "then, unless at the Chief an alternative Prime Minister must be Minister's request then the Governor at hand ...... ". In other words, in shall dissolve Assembly". So, in this this case, the Agong can exercise case, if the ruling party has got a discretion in the most exceptional very big majority, has the confidence circumstances. For instance, if the of the electorate, then if the Members Agong thinks that our Tun Razak is in the House themselves would not quite a capable man and he would agree and they would prefer to have command the majority in the House, another leader, for instance-with due but not in this case. i:espect to our Prime Minister, I Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: Mr Pre­ am just quoting an example so that we sident, Sir, on a point of clarification could understand it easily-if our of the law. Article 43, section (2) (a) Tunku asks the ;\gong to dissolve says, "in his judgment"; in the judg­ Parliament because he finds that he ment of the Agong, not in his dis­ has no confidence in the Members cretion. He must judge the thing pro­ here-the Alliance Party, which has perly. It is different from the English got the majority-then the Agong is law. entitled to refuse and that is where this question lies, because Article 43 is Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: subjected to Article 40, regarding Can I know which Article you are discretion-Article 40 (2) says: referring to? Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: Article "The Yang di-Pertuan Agong may act in 43, section (2) (a). his discretion in the performance of the following functions, that is to say-the Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: withholding of consent to a request for Well, I think I better read the whole the dissolution of Parliament". sentence in context so that you know That discretion, Sir, must be judicially what it is all about. It says "The Yang exercised. Just because it is written in di-Pertuan Agong shall appoint a the Constitution, 'The Yang di-Per­ J uma 'ah Menteri to adyise him in the tuan Agong may act in his discretion", exerc:se of his functions. The Cabinet or if it is written in the Sarawak Con­ shall be appointed as follows-that is stitution, "The Governor may act in to say (43) (2) (a), which you are his discretion", it does not mean that referring to- the Governor can do whatever he "the Yang di-Pertuan Agong shall first likes, forgetting any convention, appoint as Perdana Menteri to preside over the Cabinet a member of the House of Rep­ whether it would contravene any resentatives who in his judgment is likely written law, any rule of law. I am say­ to comm,~nd the confidence of the majority ing that when discretion is given to the monarch then he or she must That, Sir, says that after the election exercise it properly. For instance, then the Yang di-Pertuan Agong will when Tunku Abdul Rahman, if he is appoint Mr A-anybody that he thinks not popular in the House, asks for a will command the majority. But once dissolution, then the Agong might he is appointed then he has no right have cause to refuse, but not in any to dismiss him. There is the difference. 743 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 744 The one that I was arguing was diffe­ Ningkan or not is immaterial. I rent. Sub-section (4) says "If the mean, if we start thinking that Dato' Prime Minister ...... " in other Ningkan is not in our Party, he is an words, this is the man that the Yang enemy of the State. di-Pertuan Agong thinks would com­ mand the confidence of the majority, Dato' Foo See Moi: Sir, I rise on then he appoints Mr A-that is under a point of clarification. I think that Article 43 (2) (a). Now he is Prime question does not arise, because this Minister, then Article 43, sub-section procedure has never been taken, be­ (4) comes in-"lf the Prime Minister cause a vote of no confidence has got ceases to command the confidence of to be held in the State Assembly. This the majority ...... ". has not been done, and this amend­ ment will enable that to be done. I Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: Another think the speaker is putting the cart point of clarification, Sir, he does not before the horse. command. He is no longer in command Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: of the confidence. That is why he is Well, first I must say that what I have no longer appointed a Prime Minister. been saying is most relevant, and if (Laughter) my Honourable friend Dato' Foo See Moi thinks that it does not arise, of Wan Mutapha bin Haji Wan Ali: course ...... Even if it is stated, "ceases to com­ mand" under subsection (4). Here you Dato' Foo See Moi: Well, I said, say, "If the Prime Minister ceases to "not at this moment." It does not arise command the confidence of the at this moment. We discuss that after majority of the members of the House the vote of no confidence or confidence. of Representatives," then there is a word there-"then, unless at his Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: request ...... " in other words, Well, I know. But I am attacking this then, unless at his request-"his Bill now. (Laughter). I am giving my request" means the Prime Minister's. argument why this Bill should not be If the Prime Minister does not care accepted, and I would be the last to less, he won't ask for a dissolution, approve this Bill. The reason why this then, of course, he must resign. But if Bill should not be approved is because he insists on a dissolution, because it Dato' Kalong Ningkan had requested says here, "then if the Prime Minister the Governor to have a general election ceases to command"; now he ceases which had been refused. to command the confidence of the majority of the Members in both Dato' Foo See Moi: On a point of Houses, then, unless at his request­ order, Sir, I said it was still not up to the Prime Minister's request-the Yang the time, because Dato' Kalong Ning­ di-Pertuan Agong dissolves Parlia­ kan had not been voted out of the ment. If he does not make that Assembly and then he made a request. request, then the Prime Minister shall He made a request before he was tender the resignation. If he makes a voted out-and he refused to call a request for a dissolution, then the meeting of the State Assembly to do monarch must grant the dissolution, that. and I quoted this authority which Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: stated, "that it has been stated that But he has not been voted out, Mr it has become customary for the President. Sovereign to grant one dissolution to every Prime Minister"-it means to Dato' Foo See Moi: This amendment grant the request of the Prime Minister. is just to enable them to call an Assem- So, in this case in respect of Dato' bly meeting ...... Ningkan, it would be customary for the Governor to grant that request to the Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: Chief Minister, Dato' Ningkan. The But the Central Government wanted question as to whether we like Dato' him to call the Assembly. 745 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 746 Dato' Foo See Moi: .... .to ascertain He is still the Prime Minister and he is the vote of confidence. There is nothing entitled to go and see the Agong and to say to vote him out or not-he may demand that right to have a general be voted in. election. For that I would quote another authority, on page (Pause) Mr Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: President, Sir, that is the trouble with Mr President, if we are going to talk these interruption (Laughter). I think about ''time has not arisen", and if the they are doing it deliberately. time has not arisen, then why pass this Bill? As it is, at this very particular Mr President, Sir, the reason given moment, constitutionally, legally and by the Government, and I do remem­ everything, Dato' Ningkan is still the ber it as it has been emphasised, is Chief Minister, because under the pro­ that at this present moment Dato' vision of the Sarawak Constitution it Ningkan has lost the confidence of the was even stated-it must be admitted Council Negri, because they have an by the Government too-that the Chief affidavit to this effect-it is immaterial Minister must hold a meeting within whether 23 or 25 people have signed it. six months. That must be admitted by There are 42 members in the Council the Government side; even it is written Negri, and I think they say that 25 in our Malaysian Constitution, and people, which number is more than even in the State Constitution. In other half, have signed the affidavit to say words, I mean, the Chief Minister, or that they have lost confidence in the Speaker, is not entitled to go to Kalong Ningkan. Sir, an affidavit is a sleep without calling any meeting for sworn document. So, it must be accep­ more than six months. In this case, ted as true. But we have heard the then, if the last Council Negri meeting very issue debated in the law courts in Sarawak was held three months in Kuching. Chief Justice Harley has ago, then within the next three months stated that it must be decided in the he must hold another meeting. If he House itself. Even the letter which was failed to convene this meeting within the sent before Ningkan was sacked, the next three months and the six-month letter which was sent by the Governor period lapses, then he would be going to Ningkan to resign, even if it had against the Constitution. You are been s'.gned by the 25 members, it arguing that the time has not com~ was no good. Probably, the Govern­ yet. Well, if I am going to defend ment might say, "Well, before the Dato' Ningkan, then I say the time case it was just a piece of paper with has not come yet, because he has signatures. Now, we have 25 signatures got three months more under the sworn before a migistrate." My sub­ Constitution to be the Chief Minis­ mission is that whether it was in the ter. and I would go so far as to form of a letter, whether it was in the say, because of the convention, that it form of a list, whether it was in the is customary for the Sovereign to grant form of an affidavit, or whether it to the Prime Minister at least one dis­ was sworn in the temple or in the solution, that even if you call a meeting mosque, it is immaterial-it must be of the Council Negri now and Ningkan in the Dewan itself. There is an autho­ is defeated, he is still entitled to ask rity to say that you must vote against for a general election. That is why I the Chief Minister in the Assembly say, "It has been stated that it has itself. Just imagine what would hap­ become customary for the Sovereign to pen, if you are going to accept the grant one dissolution to every Prime argument by the Government side that Minister." The fact that you are 25 persons, more than half the mem­ defeated in the House does not mean bers, have signed an affidavit. What happens tomorrow, if I manage by you are no more the Prime Minister. unscrupulous means to have more than Assuming Tunku Abdul Rahman is half the Members of this House, or defeated tonight, if he were to be here, it the Dewan Ra'ayat, to vote against the cioes not mean that tomorrow morning Prime Minister? Where do I go? Can he is no more the Prime Minister. I go to the Agong and say, "My dear 747 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 748 Agong. (Laughter) I have a list here, This ·is an authority who says it must a sworn affidavit, to say that more than be voted on here (in the Dewan), and half of the Members of Dewan Ra'ayat, that was ruled by the High Court in or the Senate, have no confidence in Kuching, which is our Judge and our Prime Minister, Tunku Abdul which is our Court also; that is to say Rahman"? Will the Agong pass a Bill that he must be destroyed, or you of this kind? I would like to know. might kill Ningkan, but he must be Can, for that matter, in Trengganu, killed in the Chambers and not on the which was once controlled by the Pan­ streets or in the market (Laughter). Malayan Islamic Party and in which I say the reason why the Govern­ the PMIP at present is quite strong, ment is taking this action is that, the PMIP people bring an affidavit to perhaps, our Ministers have been pre­ go and see the Sultan of Trengganu and say, "Here is an affidavit to say judiced: they have been prejudiced by that the present Menteri Besar of the Governor himself; they have been Trengganu has lost the confidence of prejudiced by Penghulu Tawi Sli. I the Dewan Negri? Will the Trengganu would say that, because both of them Sultan ask the present Menteri Besar have an interest in the matter, as both of Trengganu, who is an Alliance man, of them have lost their case against to resign? Certainly _not. If you are Dato' Ningkan. I would say that the going to create this precedent, then we Governor has great prejudice- I mean, if I were the Governor, I would do can amend the Constitution. Well, we everything to influence Tun Razak, to can argue on that. influence the Prime Minister, and to The reason why I stress that it is influence everybody to "fire" Dato' impossible is because I have got an Ningkan, because I know I have lost authority, i.e. Halsbury Laws of Eng­ the case against him and under the land, which says that it must be Constitution I know that if Dato' Ning­ debated in the House itself. That is kan is in power and if he obtains a Halsbury Laws of England on Consti­ two-thirds majority, he can sack me. tutional Law, Third Edition, Volume Under the Sarawak Constitution, if 7, on page 362. I mention, again, page Dato' Ningkan manages to get two­ 362, because no one has mentioned in thirds majority in the Dewan Negri, then the Lower House what the position is. he can "fire" the Governor. With that Here it says, "Under the modern usage, in mind, of course, he will say that the exercise of the power of dismissal there is a crisis, there is political dead­ is unlikely to be required." This is lock, there is emergency, there are under the subhead of "Dismissal of Communists, and there are disturbances Ministers, Dissolution of the Ministry" in Kuching. I was in Kuching recently. in Halsbury Laws of England. It says There was nothing there. In fact, if here, "An adverse vote in the House of there had been tension, we would Commons on a question of confidence expect it during the trial of Dato' would be followed by resignation." It Ningkan's suit against the Governor. says, ''An adverse vote in the House We could have felt the tension in the of Commons ...... "; it does not court. As it is, there was no tension mean if the Prime Minister has lost at all. There was not a single police­ the confidence of the House. It says, man outside the court house, and I "An adverse vote." First you must vote, was able to walk the whole of Kuching and you cannot vote in the market, you town without any guide-alone. cannot vote inside the lounge, but you It is fortunate, Mr President, that I must vote in the House itself-"An have here with me a text book on the adverse vote in the House of Commons Indian Constitutional law by Tharafty on a question of confidence would be Jaya, and we know very well that our followed by resignation of the Minis­ Constitution is mostly based on the try, or an appeal to the electorate by Indian Constitution. On this the very dissolution." That is the right of the question that we have been asking, on Prime Minister, whoever it is, to ask that topic of dissolution-here it is the the monarch to grant a dissolution. Lokh Sabah which is the House of 749 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 750 Representatives, and as we are discus­ And that was the reason why the sing about Sarawak, just omit Lokh Labour Party recently, we have heard, 9abah and replace it with Council well, asked for a general election, Negri-it says here, because they have a small margin and "When, on what consideration and under the Queen was bound to grant that. what circumstances can the Lokh Sabah "That happens in England usually. The be dissolved, that Constitution is silent on House of Commons is dissolved some time this point and lays down no rules pertaining in the fifth year. A Prime Minister will to this matter. It appears that the framers of necessarily choose the moment." the Constitution thought it better to leave the matters open without laying down any It says here that the Prime Minister, rigid rule, so that as and when the question for that matter the Chief Minister, for arises it might be decided in accordance that matter the Menteri Besar: with the Constitutional convention pre­ vailing in countries with a parliamentary "A Prime Minister will necessarily choose form of Government and the necess:t:es of the moment for dissolution most favourable the situation. In the United States, the House to his own party." of Representatives is not subject to dissolu­ tion. Guidance may, however, be sought on And can we blame Dato' Ningkan if this point from England where also the he thinks that this is not the right Crown can dissolve the House of Commons. time for him to have an election? He The position in England in this respect is has got every right to say, "make hay not entirely free from doubt but neverthe­ less, on the basis of the Constitutional while the sun shines" and wait for the precedent there some general proposition next two or three months, because may be stated which may be expected to that was within his legal limit. be followed in India. The President will not dissolve the House on his own initiative." "A dissolution may also be resorted to when the party position in the House is The President here is equivalent to rather balanced, and the ruling party has a the Governor or the Agong. I empha­ very slender !llajority in the House, which sise, "The President will not dissolve makes it difficult for it to have the legis­ the House on his own initiative unless lation if it thinks it important." advised to do so by the Prime Minis­ Now, this is the argument, if you argue ter"-if it is in Sarawak then by the that he has lost confidence and he Chief Minister, if it is Trengganu or should resign. How is it that here it any Malay State, then by the Menteri is stated "A dissolution may also be Besar. resorted to when the party position in "This is in accordance with the general the House is rather balanced, and the principle of responsible government accor­ ruling party has a very slender majo­ ding to which the presidents function on the rity in the House which makes it advice of the Prime Minister. It is to be difficult for it to have the legislation."? noted that in England the decision to dis­ solve the House is taken by the Prime In other words, even if it is difficult Minister himself and not by the Cabinet. for the ruling party, for instance in In England, the question of dissolution is Sa~awak, now to make legislation, still taken by the Prime Minister himself and the Government is entitled to ask for not by the Cabinet." that. Perhaps, the same convention will be "If defeated in the House, the Ministry followed in India and perhaps, and I may legitimately appeal to the electorate"- think, the same convention should be followed here in Malaysia, if we are and I would repeat again, if defeated going to practise democracy. in the House, if defeated in the Council Negeri, the Ministry, that is the "If the Prime Minister and his Council of Ministers enjoy the confidence of the Supreme Council, may legitimately House, the President will be bound to dis­ appeal to the electorate to seek ,an solve the House, when so advised by the endorsement for its policies. In other Prime Minister. This may be done to afford words, the ruling party, even though the ruling party an opportunity to seek a mandate from the electorate on some defeated, can still appeal to .the elec­ important matter of policy on which it pro­ torate. This means that there must be poses to embark or to afford the party an election, because you cannot appeal an opportunity to go to the electorate at to the electorate, if we do not grant an a time most suitable to them politically and when it stopped with the Electorate is high election. It is written here, "To achieve without waiting for the afflux of the normal this end the defeated Prime Minister period of five years." may advise the President to dissolve 751 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 752 the House." I know you are going to rity in the House, even though Council pass this Bill whatever the Opposition Negri has not met and he has not say, but even if you pass it and later been defeated in the House itself­ on, probably in the next seven days, we know, all the world and his wife according to Temenggong Jugah, Ning­ know that his party is very small­ kan is defeated, then you have this : then he should resign. That was the "To achieve this end the defeated argument, but nevertheless, he is still Prime Minister may advise the Presi the Chief Minister, and there is a dent to dissolve the House"-and that parallel case here- it is the case of is the reason why I say he must be Kerala. so advised. I am sure Ningkan must have something behind him-even now Mr President, Sir, it says here­ when he is not yet defeated he has (lnterruption). seen the Governor formally to ask for "Under the Indian Constitution, Article a dissolution, and we cannot deny that 356 has been invoked by the Central Go­ because he has got all the evidence. vernment five times- that was in Punjab. In the first four cases, the Central intervention It has been transmitted over the radio; took place because of the Ministerial crisis it has been shown on the T.V. that in the State. The existing Ministry had either he has seen the Governor; and it has resigned or was defeated in the Legislature been reported. The Central Govern­ and that was the occassion where the Central Government stepped in what we are doing ment cannot deny that. He has got now, but in that case they had been defeated ample evidence to say that he did ask in the Legislature-"and the Ministry volun­ for a dissolution and I am not sur­ tarily resigned" and the circumstances were prised that after this Ningkan might such that an alternative Ministry was not in sight. The Central Government therefore start a case against the Central Govern­ took over the State, the State Administration, ment-and I am not surprised if he carried it through the Governor, dissolved wins again. If we lose this time, I do the State Legislature and had fresh election not know what is going to happen. leading to an entirely different administra­ If I had been on your side, I would tion. In Kerala, the situation was entirely different. There was a communist Ministry resign as a member. Fortunately, of in office commanding a small majority in the course, I am on this side, and I would State Assembly. There was a widespread dis­ emphasise, Mr President, Sir, this content throughout the State against the point, "To achieve this end the policies of the Ministry being communist."- defeated Prime Minister may advise But in this case, Ningkan was not a the President to dissolve the House, communist. I remember that his brother "and it will not only be constitutional was shot by the communists. Even a but rather obligatory on the President public agitation was set afoot against to dissolve. It says here, "it is not it- only constitutional but it is most obligatory on the part of the Presi­ "Law and order situation in the State practically broke down and there was every dent"-in this case, on the part of the indication that the agitation might take a Governor to dissolve; and this morning violent turn. In the circumstances, on the we have been hearing that we are receipt of Governor's report, the Central acting constitutionally, but I am afraid Government invoked Section 356, dismissed the State Ministry, dissolved the State Legis­ that whatever it is in respect of this lature and proceeded to make arrangements Bill we have wrongly been advised. I to hold fresh elections to the State Legis­ do not know whether the Attorney­ lature." General advised the Cabinet so, be­ Nevertheless, they held fresh elections, cause we have got all the authorities and they just did not dismiss. But, which are against us. here, we are dismissing the Chief I am not speaking here as a member Minister. In that case, there were about of the PMIP but as a member of this 80 members who were members of Honourable House. I am not fighting the communist party and it was a for Ningkan, I am fighting for coalition Government. democratic rights. It was argued this The reason, Mr President, why I am morning that Ningkan's party is very going to oppose this 13ill is this. We small. and since Ningkan has no majo- realise that the Government derives 753 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 754 the power to pass this Bill under whom are you going to give the direc­ Article 150 of the Constitution which tions? In my argument, I feel that this reads: Article 150, when there is an emer­ gency, only gives power to the Central "If the Yang di-Pertuan Agong is satis­ Government to give directions for the fied that a grave emergency exists whereby the security of the economic life of the purpose of emergency in order to safe­ Federation o~. any part thereof is threat- guard the security. For instance, the ened ...... Central Government can say, "Because I am not satisfied from what has we have got to send soldiers to Ku­ ching, it will not be necessary for them been stated that there is a grave secu­ to have any lodging and boarding rity risk at the present time. According because there is an emergency and the to this Article, the Agong must be purpose is to safeguard the security." satisfied, and the Agong could not have In this section (4) it is stated " ...... been satisfied, because, from what I any matter within the legislative autho­ learnt from the Acting Prime Minister rity of a State and to the giving of h:mself, this declaration was signed in directions to the Government...... ", Trengganu and it was signed probably but it does not mean that you can give on Thursday. Whatever it is, it seems whatever direction you like. It might that the Central Government has be argued so in that case. thought that by Article 150 it has got the power to pass this Bill, in order to dismiss the Chief Minister and also if Under Article 150, if it is going to the Speaker will not carry out the be argued that just all the Central instruction from the Governor, then, of Government has got to do is to pass a course, another Speaker can be proclamation of emergency and after appointed-that, of course, contravenes that then it can give directions to the the whole concept of democracy, and Government, even if it conflicts with it contravenes the whole of Sarawak the State Constitut:on, I would like to Constitution. Section (4) of Article 150 say that it does not mean that just reads: because of that emergency you can even sack the Chief Minister. If you "While a Proclamation of Emergency 1s can sack ti1e Chief Minister, and if you in force the executive authority of the Federation shall, notwithstanding anything have got all the powers under Article in this Constitution, extend to any matter 150 to do so, then you might as well say within the legislative authority of a State that you can amend the Malay States and to the giving of directions to the Govern­ Constitution, for example, the Constitu­ me'.1t of a State or to any officer or authority tion of Selangor. The Central Govern­ thereof." ment might as well say, "Because of this Even in section (4) of Article 150, emergency, we are going to amend the there are phrases, there are wordings, Constitution of the State of Selangor; to say that the executive authority we are going to replace the Sultan; of the Central Government shall, and we are going to replace the Men­ because of the emergency, notwith­ teri Besar." standing anything in this Constitution, extend to any matter within the legis­ Sir, there is a rule, which I am sure lative authority of a State and to giving the Acting Prime Minister, who is also directions to the Government. I mean a lawyer, knows, and that is the "rule that the words "giving directions to the of construction". In other words, you Government" mean that if there is an have got to read the intention of the emergency, then under this Article the Legislature-as to what is the inten­ Central Government can come in and tion-when they say that when there give directions to the Government not­ is an emergency the Central Govern­ withstanding that it contravenes the ment can give certain powers. It says Constitution. The fact that it is stated here, and this is called the "rule of "giving of directions to the Govern­ construction", meaning of the same ment", means that you are not entitled kind: "This rule of construction app­ to dismiss the Government because, if lies where there is a particular des­ you dismiss the Government, then to cription of properties, sufficient to 155 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 756 identify what was intended followed emergency, even if there is a slight by some general or omnibus descrip­ security risk in Sarawak at this minute. tion." In other words, we have got to You cannot pass a Bill to dismiss a interpret which is the intention of Chief Minister because this is ...... Article 150 to give power to the Cen­ Dato' Foo See Moi: Sir, I think this tral Government to interfere in the Bill is not designed to dismiss the State Constitution. Article 150 (1) says Chief Minister. It is just to empower under "Proclamation of Emergency," the Governer to call a meeting because "If the Yang di-Pertuan Agong is satis­ there is no provision in the Sarawak fied that a grave emergency exists Constitution. whereby the security or economic life of the Federation or of any part there­ Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: of is threatened," then the Central You have been complaining about time Government can step in. Even then, factor and I have to cut short my her power is limited. Her power will speech. When I say that it is intended not go to the extent of sacking the to dismiss the Chief Minister it is Chief Minister. Her power will not go because we know, we are quite aware, to the extent of giving discretional that the intention of this Bill is to give power, absolute discretion, to the power to the Governor to dismiss the Governor. Her power is only limited Chief Minister. to do whatever is fit in order to have Dato' Foo See Moi: I am sorry, Sir, a peaceful state. That is why we have I think that is not the intention of the the rule of construction, meaning of the Bill. The Bill is to empower the Gover­ same kind. It must be of the same kind nor to summon a meeting of the State and applies where there is a particular Assembly to ascertain whether the description of properties sufficient to Min;ster is still enjoying the confi­ identify what was intended. In other dence or not of the majority. words, it must be confined to the same Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: class. Here, the same class means that We all know very well, of course, it must be something to do with that-I don't know by calculation or security, it being assumed that the by what-that you probably have 25 general words were only intended to members, and that is tantamount to guard against some accidental ommis­ dismissing the Chief Minister. sion. It is a general rule of construction that where a particular class is spoken Dato' Foo See Moi: No. That is not of and general words follow, the class until the State Assembly meets. first ment~oned is to be taken as the Wan Mustapha b'.n Haji Wan Ali: most comprehensive, and the general Yes, I know, but I can presume words treated as referring to the mat­ that ...... ters used generally w;th such class. Dato' Foo See Moi: You cannot go There are, said Lord Elsie, two rules on presumption. of construction now firmly established as part of our law. One is that words Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: however general may be limited in res­ Mr President, S:r, I propose not to pect to the subject matter in relation take much of the House's time. How­ to which ...... ever, I would continue on this point, and I still say it again that we hav~ Dato' Foo See Moi: Mr President, not got the power under Article 150 Sir, I would like to know whether the to pass this kind of Bill, because th~ point raised by our speaker just now is relevant to the debate on the Bill. Bill that we are passing now has I think that time is getting short and nothing to do with the protect:on of some other Member should be allowed life; it has nothing to do with security; a chance to speak. it is just a question of a political move, because Art1cle 150 clearly states that Wan Mus:apha bin Haji Wan Ali: this proclamation is made when there Sir, I say that it is most relevant, is any emergency. Assuming that there because my argument is that this Bill is any emergency, but still we have not cannot be passed even if there is an got the power ...... 757 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 758 Dato' Athi Nabappan: Mr President, reason why it does not apply to other Sir, ·the Honourable Member is in­ States. We are afraid, Mr President, dulging in tedious repetition. I refer Sir, that if the Central Government to Standing Order 43, which says, can suspend the Constitution, though "The Chair, after having called the it has not been suspended yet, if it attention of the Senate, or of the can resort to this tactic, then we can Committee, to the conduct of the never know whether or not in the near Senator who persists in irrelevance, or future the Central Government might in tedious repetition"-and just a use the same tactic on any State, which moment ago, the Honourable Member is controlled by the Opposition­ said, "I say it again" and !pen he like the P.M.l.P. in Kelantan. I was referred to the Artic!e 150 of the quite surprised to have heard the Constitution. I think I have heard and Acting Prime Minister-of course, Honourable Members here have heard jokingly-state that this might apply not less than about half a dozen times to Kelantan and that we have to ask "Article 150", and this tedious repeti­ our Tun Dr Ismail. This is quite a tion does not help the House since, I serious matter and it might be a good think, he has already made the point tactic to laugh your way out of the he wants to make. Therefore, I should House when you cannot convince the seek a ruling from the Chair under public. Order 43, Sir. I say, and I know, that the Govern­ Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: ment realise that this is an important Sir, before you give a ruling, may I Bill and the Government knows that be allowed or permitted to reply? It she has abused her power and for that was not my intention to repeat but, reason the Minister, who spoke this Mr President, Sir, I was interrupted; morning, just laughed it off, and I and in respect of what I have stated, would say again that I would definitely for instance, my Honourable friend oppose this Bill. Before I sit down, I had been asking whether it was rele­ would challenge the Government say­ vant or not. As a result, I have got to ing that even if this Bill is passed, it repeat it again, to emphasise it, to will not be legal, it will be null and make it clear. void. Thank you. Mr President: But you have been Dato' Sheikh Abu Bakar: Honour­ repeating several times, not once. able Dato' President, Sir, I rise to give Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: my support to the Bill which has been May I ask at this juncture, with your submitted by the Honourable Minister indulgence, Mr President, Sir, what a few minutes ago. First of all, Sir, I time do we adjourn? Shall we con­ had n:J desire to make any speech at tinue until tomorrow morning, because all, seeing that the Bill placed before if I know ...... us is not only fair, reasonable, and Mr President: Please make your democratic but also legally justifiable. arguments as concise as possible. But having heard my learned and Honourable friend on my right, I feel, Wan Mustapha bin Haji Ali: Yes, as a staunch Member of this Honour­ I will try to shorten my speech. I will able House, that I should say some­ sum it up briefly. thing in contra to what is said. I Mr President, Sir while waiting shall be very brief in my submission, for the session to start, I remember Sir. having regard to the very late hearing the reply given by the hour, and I shall say something very Minister for Local Government: he concise and to the point, and not stated why this Bill does not apply to beating about the bush and wasting all the States. In fact, he was replying the time of the House. to the question raised in the Lower With your permission, Sir, I would House on why this Bill should only like to read the caption of the Bill­ apply to Sarawak, and the Minister i quote: "An Act to amend the Federal for Local Government stated the Constitution a::J to make provision 759 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 760 with respect to certain constitutional would clear the uncertainty in the matters in the State of Sarawak, con­ minds of the people of Sarawak in a sequent upon a Proclamation of fair, justifiable, and legal method. I Emergency having been issued and support the Bill, Sir. being in force in that State". It follows, therefore, in my humble opinion, Sir, Dato' Foo See Moi: Mr President, that in amending the Federal Con­ Sir, as I have just now interrupted my stitution, and by virtue of Article 150, learned and Honourab:e friend, I feel Clauses 5 and 6, I am of the opinion that it is my duty to express my opinion that Sarawak State is now affected by regarding this Bill. I rise to support our Constitution. It follows, therefore, whole-heartedly the Bill before the again, Sir, that this Bill, as I said above, House. ·I think the Opposition Member is not only fair, legal but absolutely and also the Opposition Members of necessary, in view of the prevailing the Lower House have confused the circumstances now existing in Sarawak. issue which, I think, is a very straight­ Quite simple, Sir, as easy as A, B, C, forward one. Why I say this is, be­ and not so serious as imagined by my cause the situation of Sarawak is so learned friend on my right. He said simple that I, as a layman, am fully something about walking out of the appreciative of the position, because Chamber, Sir. Walking out of the it started admittedly as a domestic Chambers is a formula of the Oppo­ affair of the Grand Alliance. sition parties, whenever they cannot As you all know, even Dato' Kalong get what they wanted from the House Ningkan's Government, before he (Applause). chose himself to become the Opposi­ Briefly, Sir, the facts are as adduced tion, was an Alliance Government and by the Minister a few minutes ago. the members were all elected under The situation in Sarawak now is not Alliance tiekets; and I say that this is only intolerable to the society but also an Alliance domestic affair which has highly dangerous to the national secu­ gone out of hand because one of the rity, and if we allow it to go on, it members who happened to be the Chief will cause chaos, civil disturbances and Minister has refused to obey the disci­ instability, which may give rise to pline of the Party and thereby causing communistic riots. I may add, Sir, if constitutional problems leading to a the Central Government does not take political crisis; and it might lead-of the necessary steps now, it will be course, it is likely to lead-to a grave found lacking in its duties-that is if security situation. Well, as I s:iid, the this Bill is not brought before us and matter has gone out of hand, and it if this House does not give the green is definitely a dead!ock in the S:irawak light to its passage. Government, because in our Alliance level we have found out that the ex­ Sir, Dato' Ningkan, the Chief Minis­ Chief Minister, Dato' Stephen Ka'.ong ter of Sarawak, having lost the support Ningkan, has lost the confidence in and confidence of the majority of the our Alliance itse'.f. We are sure of this Members of the Legislature or the because there is the demonstration of Council Negri, should, in my opinion, the signing of an affidavit by members convene the Council Negri to find out before a Magistrate declaring that they and see what the people wish to have, have no confidence in Dato' Ningkan. or he should step down from his throne Therefore, we consider that-this is or both. He did niether, Sir, as we all my opinion-Dato' Ningkan has be­ know. Instead of that he juggled-I come the minority in our Party itself, repeat, Sir, he juggled-the situation and it is impossible for a party to by exploiting all sorts of tricks which allow a member of the minority, to prevented the Council Negri from being be the Chief Minister. The court has convened. There was nothing, Sir, the ruled that the method of change is Central Government could do but to wrong. Of course, we accepted that, as place before us now a Bill which would already stated by the Min'.sters or clear not only the dangerous instability Members of the Cabinet of our Go­ now prevailing in Sarawak but also vernment. Such being the case, there 761 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 762 is definitely a deadJock in the adminis­ the laws and conventions of other tration of the Government of Sarawak. lands would take precedence over the Therefore, we have to solve this dead­ Constitution of Malaysia. This Consti­ lock. As there is no other way, because tution, I submit, Sir, is a sacred Bible there is no provision in the Sarawak or, if you would like to call it, the Constitution, to convene a meeting of sacred Koran by which this sovereign the State Assembly unless with the nation of ours, shall survive and con­ request of the Supreme Council, we tinue to live as a sovereign indepen­ consider that this gap must be reme­ dent nation. died in order to provide a way to determine, or to demonstrate, whether Sir, I am not impressed by the so­ the present Chief Minister-we may called legal submissions of my friend. call him a rebel of our party-still In fact, after listening to him for hours, enjoys the confidence of the majority or I was in full sympathy with him for not. So, Sir, it is imperative that we must the confusion in which he found find a way to solve this dead-lock, himself. and the only way is for our Govern­ Mr President, Sir, I am struck, most ment to introduce an amendment emphatically struck, by the fact that in order to enable someone-in this my learned friend, Senator Wan Mus­ case it happens to be the Governor­ tapha, took greatest trouble not to to summon a meeting of the State refer to the existence of this White Assembly, in order to determine whe­ Paper, which has been laid before the ther the Chief Minister still has the House-this White Paper, Sir, is en­ confidence of that Assembly, but it titled "The Communist Threat" to does not mean that this will give full Sarawak. Here is a telling indictment authority or full power to the Governor of the communists in Sarawak and of to dismiss a Chief Minister, though, of their Peking masters, and here is the course, it does give the Governor the learned barrister who wants us to power to dismiss him, after a vote believe that a state of .emergency does of no confidence has been carried in not exist in Sarawak, just because the the State Assembly, in the event the Alliance Government has been able to Chief Minister refuses to resign. I con­ give protection, while he was sojour­ sider this to be a fair one against the ning for a few days in the township of Opposition party, because we are Kuching. having party politics in our Constitu­ tion, and because one way or the other, Mr President, Sir, it is clear that we are, as an Alliance Party, still we Malaysians, that we loyal Malay­ enjoying the confidence of the people, sians, must abide by the Constitution because the party has been elected and of the country. Why should we look the Member concerned now is not a to the Constitution of other countries, member of the Opposition Party. I to the so-called conventions created think that is what we have to make by those Constitutions when we have clear, because this is a domestic pro­ here a Constitution subscribed to by blem which has gone out of hand, and all the Governments within the State nothing can solve this problem unless of Malaysia? we have some one to summon the State Assembly to determine the issue. Sir, I like to refer at some length to Thank you, Sir. the communist threat in Sarawak. It is clear from page 1 of this White Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, Paper right up to the last page, that Sir, it speaks volumes for the Dewan is to say page 10, of this White Paper Negara in that we were able to listen that the communist threat to Sarawak to two hours to a painful legal rigma­ and, I submit', Sir, the communist threat role such as was submitted by the to our Malaysian nation, is both real Honourable Wan Mustapha of the and forboding. If the Central Govern­ Opposition. Here, Mr President, Sir, is ment were to close its eyes as the a bumiputra, who wants me, or who Honourable Senator Wan Mustapha wants this House, to understand that did, I do not think we shall survive 763 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 764 for very much longer. It is clear here, Mr President, Sir, I would like also Sir, that the Sarawak Communist to draw attention to the reference in Organisation has penetrated into all this White Paper to the fact that the strata of society in Sarawak and the S.U.P.P. or, in other words, the situation that has been created is so Sarawak United Peoples' Party, has been great that there is no alternative but infiltrated to a great extent. I urge, for the Alliance Government to advise Sir, the Federal Government to outlaw his Majesty to declare a State of this Party as soon as possible and not Emergency. to allow them to be made use of by the communist enemies of our State. This question of Dato' Stephen Mr President, Sir, we have a duty Kalong Ningkan is, to my mind, at in this House, not merely a duty to the moment extraneous to the issue. support the Party to which we We shall deal with that in due course belong-and we are very proud to of time. What we must deal now is belong to that Party, namely, the the communist threat because, unless Alliance Party of Tunku Abdul we face up to it, we shall find that Rahman-but it is our duty to the one day we shall never wake up-and nation. to help the Government of the that applies to me as much as it does day. to face the communist menace to my friend, Senator Wan Mustapha. or for that matter any menace that threatens the livelihood of our nation. Sir, I would like to stress-and I do In that spirit, Sir, I welcome this Bill not want' to waste the Dewan's time and support it fully. (Applause). too much-that the main purpose of this piece of Emergency Legislation is Dato' Athi Nahappan: Mr President, to ensure that parliamentary democracy Sir, I am rather surprised that the works in Sarawak and works effectively. Honourable Member, Wan Mustapha, We have on our hand a Chief Minister, took a long time to inflict upon us a who will not observe parliamentary constitutional, legal argument in res­ democracy. There is no way for us to pect of this Bill that is before us. see that parliamentary democracy Sir. the Bill very obviously is within works except by this piece of legislation. the four corners of our Constitution, namely Article 150. No one can effec­ I agree with my Honourable friend, t:vely argue that in bringing this Bill Dato' Sheikh Abu Bakar, that the the Government has sacrificed the Federal Government would be failing principle of constitutionalism. One may in its duty to this nation, if it did say whether it is a correct assessment not bring this piece of legislation into of the situation in Sarawak as to the Parliament. existence or otherwise of an emergency, but on that we have already the Sir, allow me to go back to the Government Paper and we have al­ question of the communist menace. ready before us this evening the speech Throughout this White Paper, there rendered by the Honourable Deputy is reference to the fact that communist Prime Minister in the Lower House. activities in Sarawak are Peking inspired. Sir, I hope Dewan Negara and Constitutional practices over the years Parliament as a whole, and the people have been followed in different coun­ of Malaysia, will take note of this tries in different styles with emphases very important statement-I say that and differences in degrees. It is a grow­ docility towards the Peking regime is ing field of science and it is not a fixed not going to save us from communism. rule as yet. In so far as the emerging That is why I oppose and I shall nations are concerned, it has been in­ continue to oppose any measure that creasingly recognised that what is fund­ Malaysia takes to support any move to amental is the question of stability. get Communist China into the United Especially in the early nation stage of Nations. They do not deserve a place the growth of the nation, a country there, a place among the decent nations such as ours cannot afford the luxury of the world. of instability and that is well put in

------765 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 766 the speech of the Honourable Deputy would have been too late. It is easier Prime Minister in focussing the car­ to be wise after the event; it is not dinal purpose of this Bill. He had very clever trying to block the flood, said, Sir, and I quote: when it has broken in. We have had "The measures now proposed are designed experiences ourselves. We have seen merely to maintain political stability during the experiences of other countries. the interim period until the general elections What was visible clearly and in no so that Sarawak will have a stable Govern­ shadow of doubt was the kind of ment to enable us to face the serious com­ munist threat to the security of the State." danger that we had prevented before it exploded and, therefore, this Bill That in crux conveys the purpose of has been brought about not with a view this Bill. to undermine democracy, or to destroy the concepts of constitutional parlia­ Much has been said as to whether mentary practice, as it has been said, or not a grave emergency exists. We but merely to strengthen the very all know that an emergency has been existing in Sarawak for some time foundation of it. now, that efforts have been made to Any one who is fair in the analysis bring down the communist menace of constitutional practice would imme­ there, and we have not made much diately accept this. If only Dato' headway. Even now it is a serious me­ Ningkan had a majority, clear majority, nace, and every one knows that we this situation would not have arisen­ have to challenge that whatever the the fact would have been recognised as consequences are. it has been recognised all along in Kelantan State, where the Opposition While we have been having this me­ has been there in power over the years nace, we have suddenly found our­ and nothing has been done to under­ selves in a situation politically un­ mine that existence. If Dato' Ningkan stable, capable of creating explosive had sufficient majority and had proved situations releasing ugly racial emotions the existence of that majority, this Bill which might be- even far worse than would not have been here before us, the very known style of communist but the fact was otherwise. The fact terrorism. We have had the experience was that a vast majority of the Mem­ of dealing with communism in this bers of the Council Negri had clearly country and we have the confidence of indicated that they have no confidence dealing with it in Sarawak. Fortunately. in Dato' Stephen Kalong Ningkan. In despite the existence in this country of this situation, as provided correspond­ a number of races, plurality of cul­ ingly under Article 43 of the Consti­ tures and other factors, we have not tution, vis a vis the Prime Minister, if up till now, due to the wise leadership Dato' Ningkan had resigned, the situa­ that we have had in this country. tion would not have arisen-i.e. after suffered any racial strife of any alarm­ having taken note of the fact that he ing proportion, though in Singapore it had lost the confidence of Council tried to rise its ugly head but was Negri and resigned. But he did not effectively put down. But, Sir, the poli­ want to resign; he wanted to remain; tical instability that came within the he wanted to create a stalemate, an context of the already existing emer­ impasse; and he did not want to call gency in Sarawak was capable of pro­ the Council Negri, but he merely made ducing a rather unpredictable kind of a promise that he might go to the emergency, explosive situation, and if electorate-but when and how long it allowed to go by default might very would take all these factors were not well become unmanageable. Any Cen­ gone into. tral Government that considers respon­ sibility as its main function cannot Now, in this situation, political in­ merely watch the situation as a passive stability would come into being, all spectator. If the Central Government kinds of rivalries would emerge, and it had watched the situation as no more would be impossible to maintain peace than a passive spectator and allowed and calm, having known especially the the situation to degenerate, then it multi-racial character of the society and 767 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 768 that politics in our country is not powers, but that is when there is merely conditioned by ideological con­ habitual disregard; that will be under cepts. There are other factors that come Article 43, Powers under the Consti­ into politics and they are likely to tution-I cannot elaborate offhand­ create an uncontrollable situation. That but surely not under the Emergency is why the Central Government, in its Regulation. wisdom, thought that before things got out of hand it had to do something. It Dato' Athi Nahappan: What I say could not just sit quiet and watch the is that even in the normal course, situation, and then try to control it even without an emergency, the after it had shown its ugly head. Governor in India is given a great: deal of power-that is, if he is satisfied Now, Sir, as regards the powers of that the State Government cannot be the Governor that are only temporarily carried on in accordance with the given in this Bill, much has been said provisions of the Constitution, all that that the Governor is being made as a he has got to do is to report to the sort of a proconsul of the Federal President, and the President can take Government-that has been said by over the State-it is so simple as that­ another politician-that the Governor and it has been taken over in India. is armed to the teeth, so as to bring Now, we do not have corresponding about suppression of democracy and provisions in our Constitution. That constitutional practice. Now, nothing is is what I am trying to say, because it further from the truth. In fact. any has been pointed out, both in this constitutional student, if only he would House and elsewhere, that these powers just try to compare one or two other that are being given in our Bill are emerging countries' constitutions, would very oppressive and contrary to the know that even the new powers that are concepts of parliamentary democrary. being given under this Bill are very What I am trying to say, Sir, is that in moderate powers. In fact, the Honour­ the body of the Constitution of India, able Member from Kelantan was trying if a Governor is satisfied, he can report to cite labouriously various provisions to the President and the President can of the Indian Constitution. As a student take over the State so easily and simply. of Constitution myself, I have been Now, in practice if we have similar referring to the various provisions of provisions here, all that is needed is, the Indian Constitution and I might if the Ruler-in-Council, or the Governor say, Sir, that under Article 356 of the of Penang or Malacca, says that he is Indian Constitution the Governor is satisfied that his State should be taken given so much of powers which our over by the Yang di-Pertuan Agong Governors here do not enjoy. They are and ruled by the Yang di-Pertuan already in this book and they have Agong directly, it can be done so been there all these years, and under simply. We do not have corresponding Article 356--1 would just read, if I provisions in our Constitution, despite may, Sir, with your leave-it says: the fact that we had borrowed quite a "If the President on receipt of a report lot of provisions from the Indian from the Governor or Rajpramukh"-he Constitution. is equivalent to our Ruler in Council here­ "of a State or otherwise, is satisfied that a Now, all that this Bill envisages is situation has arisen in which the Govern­ ment of the State cannot be carried on in to break the present impassie by accordance with the provisions of this empowering the Governor to call for Constitution, the President may by proclama­ the Council Negri to meet and then to tion-assume to himself all or any of the t'est whether the person who claims functions of the Government of the State and all or any of the powers vested in or himself to be the Chief Minister de exercisable by the Governor or Rajpramukh, jure enjoys majority support or not. as the case may be, or any body or authority If he enjoys majority support-good in the State other than the Legislature of luck to him-he would rule the State. the State". If he does not enjoy majority support Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: then, in the normal parliamentary On a point of clarification-I quite practice, he should bow down and admit that the Governor has got the resign, and that is all there is to it 769 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 770 and that is all that is intended by this dalam Dewan Ra'ayat pada siang tadi. legislation:, and I do not see why Bill yang di-hadapan kita, ia-lah satu heaven and earth must be moved to Bill yang menggemparkan oleh kerana create a picture in this Parliament that dia merupakan satu pindaan kapada this country is going down the drain Perlembagaan negara kita dan lebeh of destruction of democracy, which is lagi menggemparkan kerana dia bukan utter nonsense and rubbish-this is not sahaja pindaan kapada Perlembagaan merely mentioned here but also men­ negara kita, tetapi dia juga merupakan tioned elsewhere. After all, if a country pindaan kapada Constitution of has to be ruled, it must be ruled and Sarawak, erti-nya, dia pergi dengan especially during, as I said, the earlier sa-kali dayong dua pulau sampai. stage of our growth, we could not take what the political pundits have stated Bill yang bagini penting, Tuan Yang as mere theories, which might be di-Pertua, baru hari ini dapat kita suitable to developed countries like terima ia-itu di-atas meja di-tempat the United States or the United kita bersidang ini, tentu-lah satu per­ Kingdom, where democracy has thrived kara yang sangat tidak patut untok over the years and nothing would upset di-teruskan amalan saperti ini-satu their system-the people there are Bill yang bagini penting, bukan sahaja basically appreciative of the values of Bill pindaan Perlembagaan, bahkan democracy. But in a country such as Bill2 yang lain juga yang mengenai ours, where the people are still not nasib ra'ayat, mengenai politik, yang conscious of the basic values, and they mengenai haF luar negeri dan ra'ayat are likely to run amok over easy, tidak patut s.ama sa-kali di-lakukan simple matters, we have to see to it saperti ini. Tetapi, pehak Kerajaan that we have a stable government, and Perikatan merasa ini satu perkara yang that is fundamental and that must get mesti oleh kerana ada-nya grave priority and precedence. emergency yang di-tafsirkan sa-bagai bahya dharurat yang besar. Ini boleh Therefore, Sir, without wasting more di-tafsirkan oleh masing:z. saperti yang time on this Bill, which is a very dapat saya ikuti sa-panjang sidang necessary Bill, and which is only a Dewan Ra'ayat pada siang tadi dan transitory Bill, I hope the provisions juga dalam Dewan kita yang mulia ini. of this Bill, would be incorporated in the Constitution permanently, so that Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Bill ini di­ hereafter such a kind of undesirable kemukakan atas alasan ada-nya situation would not arise. I hope the emergency, dan memang-lah kita Ministers would give us an assurance ketahui kalau tidak kerana di-ishtihar­ that these temporary provisions will kan emergency, maka Parlimen tidak be incorporated in the Constitution of dapat di-panggil bersidang tergempar Malaysia so as to be applicable to saperti ini dan kerana itu-lah sa-kali all the States of Malaysia, so that if a pun kita telah mempunyai emergency situation arises where a Chief Minister, yang belum pernah di-tarek balek bagi or a Mentri Besar, tries to hang on to seluroh negara, ia-itu bagi Negeri2 a seat, then we have provisions whereby Tanah Melayu dan juga Sarawak dan we bring a quick solution to it and see Sabah, tetapi bagi maksud untok that we not merely pay lips service to memanggil sidang tergempar Parlimen democracy, but really practise it. ini, satu emergency lagi di-ishtiharkan Thank you very much. Sir. di-dalam emergency dan bagi seluroh negara kita yang sudah ada emergency Tuan Amaluddin bin Daros: Tuan tetapi di-tambah lagi bagi Sarawak­ Yang di-Pertua, pada hari ini, dari sa-kali lagi emergency. Tidak ada satu pagi lagi kita sudah mengikuti perkem­ sebab yang lain, bagi Kerajaan meng­ bangan yang sangat besar dalam sejarah ishtiharkan emergency sa-ka!j lagi, politik tanah ayer kita dan pada malam tidak lain sa-mata2 dengan kerana ini kita Ahli2 Dewan Negara dapat menghendaki Dewan Ra'ayat dan bersidang dalam Dewan ini bagi mem­ Dewan Negara bersidang bagi melulus­ bahathkan apa yang telah di-putuskan kan Bill yang di-maksudkan oleh pehak 771 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 772 Kerajaan Perikatan, untok mengekal Puteh ini, Kertas Puteh yang di-keluar­ kuasa gulongan Perik.a!tan di-Negeri kan bertanda tangan pada 17 haribulan Sarawak itu sendiri. September, 1966, di-keluarkan bukan kerana keadaan kominis, anchaman Bersamaan dengan pengishtiharan kominis, bukan kerana memang kita keadaan dzarurat yang saya perchaya seluroh-nya telah di-ancham dan sedang belum dapat di-katakan dzarurat di-ancham oleh kominis, tetapi di-· saperti yang telah di-bayangkan, atau keluarkan bagi maksud menghahalkan saperti yang telah di-sebutkan oleh atau melakukan sa-suatu bagi kepen­ Ahli2 Dewan Ra'ayat dan juga saperti tingan Parti Perikatan. yang telah di-tegaskan oleh sahabat saya, Yang Berhormat Wan Mustapha Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya berani kerana beliau beberapa hari yang lalu bertaroh, kalau berchakap tentang berada di-Sarawak kebetulan dapat anti kominis, sa-orang Muslim lebeh mengikuti perbicharaan perkara per­ anti kominis clan saya sa-orang pejuang selisehan Perlembagaan. Kata saya untok menegakkan chita2 Islam lebeh perselisehan, tetapi yang sa-benar-nya anti kominis bukan dari segi materia­ perlanggaran Perlembagaan yang di­ listic kerana kominis dan liberalism buat oleh orang2 Perikatan di-Sarawak, sama2 materialistic dan materislism dan even single Policeman, kata beliau, dan kami ada-lah spiritual dan bukan sedangkan sa-orang Polis pun tidak ada kerana materialistic atau benda2 yang mengawal Mahkamah. Yang demikian akan di-kelahikan. sama sa-kali tidak ada tanda2 mengapa dapat di-katakan ada-nya emergency, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kita semua ada-nya keadaan grave emergency yang sedar apabila kita mengishtiharkan di­ menyebabkan di-ishtiharkan emergency bawah Fasal 150 Perlembagaan kita, di-Sarawak itu. cheraian 1 pada tahun 1964 yang lalu apabila Parlimen telah meluluskan, Dan sampai hari ini pun, Tuan Yang telah mengiakan wujud-nya dharurat di-Pertua, belum kita terbacha berita2 di-negara kita ia-lah kerana ada ancha­ mengatakan sudah ada rusohan, dan man pencherobohan dari luar, kon­ ra'ayat 20-30 orang mati, belum ada, frantation yang di-lancharkan oleh hanya kalau ada beberapa orang me­ Indonesia dan ada-nya anchaman dari lontar batu, melontar batu ini dapat dalam-memang telah kita sedar dan kita mengerti kerana kita menghadapi di-antara anchaman dari dalam itu pilehanraya pernah di-lontar2 batu kita sedar sejak tahun 1948 kita telah atau pun di-lontar telor dan sa-bagai­ terang2 di-tentang oleh kominis dengan nya, dan ini terang2 lebeh jelas dapat bersenjata. Kita tahu hingga tidak perlu di-mengerti oleh sa-siapa juga pun, ini hendak di-perkatakan apa-tah lagi ada-lah di-buat oleh pengikut12 Parti untok di-sibarkan Kertas Puteh kebe­ Perikatan, sa-kali pun tidak mahu di­ tulan pada 17 haribulan September, akui dengan anjoran Parti Perikatan 1966 bagi maksud untok meluluskan tetapi dia ada-lah di-buat oleh pe­ Bill ini. ngikut2 Parti Perikatan. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya rasa tidak Saya faham mereka tidak berapa patut ada Ahli2 dalam Dewan ini yang berani saperti berani-nya pemuda2 bangun untok menyatakan dengan Nazi di-Jerman yang telah membakar serious betapa Ahli2 Pembangkang ber­ bangunan Parlimen Jerman. bagi chakap soal Perlembagaan dengan maksud supaya Kerajaan Nazi Hitler tidak menghiraukan sama sa-kali ka­ dapat menghalau Yahudi dan mem­ pada Kertas Puteh ini. bunoh Yahudi di-dalam Negeri Jerman. Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya rasa Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini ada-Iah tidak patut sebab kita ahli2 politik, politik-politics is a dirty game-kita, bukan anak2 dalam Dewan ini. tahu haP politik kerana kita telah lama semenjak sekolah berfikir hal2 politik. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, keadaan yang Tuan Yang di-Pertua, berbetulan berlaku di-Sarawak yang menyebab­ dengan maksud2 ini. keluar-lah Kert'as kan terjadi saperti apa yang sedang 773 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 774 terjadi sekarang ini, hendak saya kata­ janda Perikatan. Ini yang perlu di­ kan dia ada-lah satu krisis Perlem­ jawab. Ini yang perlu di-fahami. Saya bagaan, saya fikir sa-sudah melihat, faham krisis ini tidak lain daripada mengkaji, mengikuti, bahawa di-sana krisis perebutan kuasa-ingin berkuasa. memang ada krisis Perlembagaan yang Jadi keinginan berkuasa ini, mabok di-chetuskan oleh Perikatan sendiri. berkuasa ini, membuat orang sanggup Tetapi ini telah dapat di-selesaikan melakukan sa-suatu yang tidak sang­ melalui proses demokrasi, itu proses gup di-lakukan orang kapada-nya. demokrasi chara politic, kita telah menjalankan ini sesuai dengan konsep2 Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam demokrasi. Kita ada Legislative, kita Dewan Ra'ayat sa-panjang siang tadi ada Executive dan kita ada Judicial. beberapa orang Ahli Pembangkang Kita telah menyelesaikan masaalah ini telah berchakap, di-antara-nya ia-lah meng:kut saloran yang betul. Bila ada­ Ahli Yang Berhormat anggota dari nya krisis Perlembagaan, krisis itu lpoh, Tuan D. R. Seenivasagam. Beliau bukan di-chetuskan oleh Kalong Ning­ telah menyebut betapa di-gembor-nya berita kidnap, kidnapping-cholek, kan atau · Yang Berhormat Tuan 2 Kalong Ningkan, Ketua Menteri Sara­ chuba mencholek dan macham lagi, wak, tetapi di-chetuskan oleh Ahli tetapi berita yang sa-benar-nya kechil, Perikatan sendiri. Saya tidak peduli kalau ribut, ribut-nya storm in the soal pertentangan, atau perbalahan, cup-ribut di-dalam chawan sahaja. atau perkelahian antara anggota Per­ J adi, beliau telah membangkitkan kerana tidak ada pencholekan2 yang ikatan dan Anggota Perikatan saperti 2 Kalong Ningkan-memang anggota benar telah berlaku, tetapi apa yang Perikatan asal-nya. Itu soal rumah betul2 telah berlaku ia-lah sa-bahagian tangga, tetapi saya katakan soal kalau anggota2 Dewan Negeri Sarawak men­ ada yang di-katakan krisis Perlem­ diami rumah Governor-di-rumah bagaan di-chetuskan oleh orang2 Per­ Governor kalau saya tidak silap-atau ikatan sendiri. pun saya mungkin silap, rumah Yang Berhormat Temenggong Jugah, sa­ Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, seka­ bahagian lagi mendiami di-rumah yang rang ini kalau kita telah dapat meng­ di-sewa oleh Penghulu Tawi Sli di­ ikut dan memahamkan apa yang di­ Kuching sa-hingga mereka itu tidak di­ katakan perselisehan atau krisis me­ benarkan keluar, takut kena cholek ngenai: Perlembagaan telah pun di­ dan ini telah di-nyatakan oleh Yang selesaikan melalui sistem demokrasi di­ Berhormat wakil dari Ipoh yang me­ dalam Mahkamah, dan Yang Amat ngatakan siapa-kah mencholek siapa, Berhormat Tunku Perdana Menteri di­ apa-kah orang2 Perikatan takut di­ England pun telah berchakap menerusi cholek o'.eh orang lain, oleh SNAP, B.B.C. bahawa itu-lah dia demokrasi o'.eh Snake, atau entah apa-kah, ular­ yang berjalan di-Malaysia, ia-itu ke­ kah, SNAP-kah, apa-kah, atau sa­ putusan Mahkamah dapat di-terima. benar-nya Tawi Sli yang telah men­ Jadi malang-nya Tunku Perdana Men­ cholek dan mengurong mereka dalam teri tidak berada di-tanah ayer kita dua rumah di-Kuching sa-hingga, Tuan pada hari ini, dan kerana itu apa yang Yang di-Pertua, pada malam yang kita sedang berlaku di-tanah ayer kita ber­ bersidang, perkara yang bagini pen­ lawanan dengan kenyataan yang beliau ting-sa-orang anggota Dewan Negara sebutkan untok menjaga image negara telah tidak ada di-dalam Dewan ini, kita dan bangsa kita di-luar negeri. ia-itu ahli politik, sa-orang Temeng­ gong yang menurut berita akhbar sa­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, apa yang ada malam-kata orang Selangor ini kel­ sekarang ini political crisis, krisis poli­ marin-kata orang Melayu 100 juta­ tik, krisis politik itu apa-kah dia benar2 orang Kedah, Kelantan dan sa-bagai­ krisis2 politik negeri, negara atau krisis nya-terpaksa pulang ka-kampong­ politik sa-sama anggota Perikatan. nya, kerana isteri-nya sakit kuat. Itu Apa-kah krisis politik ini krisis politik soal lain, tetapi dia telah meninggal­ negeri, krisis politik negara, atau krisis kan rumah Penghulu Tawi Sli tanpa politik sa-sama anggota Perikatan, atau memberi tahu, tanpa mendapat izin, 775 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 776 erti-nya dia telah melepaskan diri agak­ tadi mempertahankan, menentang Bill nya dari pencholekan. ini untok di-luluskan, membela dan mempertahankan Tuan Stephen Ka­ Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dia tidak long Ningkan, apa-kah ada hubongan ikut hadhir dalam persidangan pada saya dengan dia? Tidak ada! Jangan­ malam ini. Jadi, saya tidak hendak kan untok berhubong, belum pernah ulangi terlalu banyak apa yang telah berjabat salam dengan Tuan Stephen di-sebutkan kerana tidak berguna bagi Kalong Ningkan. Jadi soal yang kita kita mengulang2 apa yang telah di­ perkatakan ia-lah soal demokrasi, soal binchangkan di-Dewan Ra'ayat, tetapi yang kami pertahankan soal principle kerana kita ini Dewan berasingan sa­ yang patut di-pertahankan. dikit, boleh juga untok memperkuat­ kan alasan bagi sa-orang yang ber­ Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sudah chakap. di-jelaskan dari segi legal, dari segi Tuan Yang di-Pertua, soal yang kita Perlembagaan, ia-itu menjadi hak ka­ hadapi sekarang ini, Kerajaan meng­ pada sa-barang Perdana Menteri, Ke­ tua Menteri, atau pun Meilteri2 Besar hendaki kita meluluskan Bill ini yang bagi menasihatkan kapada Governor akan memberi kuasa kapada Governor di-Sawarak, mithal-nya, yang sedang Sarawak bagi memanggil sidang Dewan Negeri Sarawak dan kalau Speaker-nya kita hadapi sekarang ini supaya di-ada­ tidak endahkan kapada apa yang di­ kan satu pilehan raya. Bagi Ketua mintakan oleh Yang Terutama Tuan Menteri itu dia mempunyai hak dari Governor, maka di-adakan sidang segi Perlembagaan untok meminta dengan di-pileh sa-orang daripada Ahli2 supaya di-adakan satu pilehan raya dari Dewan untok menjadi Pengerusi dan apa-kah alasan bagi Tuan Yang dan perkara ini mesti berlangsong juga. Terutama Governor tidak hendak me­ Kita semua faham maksud politik ini nerima nasihat itu, tidak hendak ia-lah bagi menyampaikan, bagi me­ melaksanakan ia-itu membubarkan, nyempurnakan hasrat Perikatan untok mengishtiharls:an pembubaran Dewan menyapu arang di-muka Perikatan Negri dan mengadakan pilehan raya, yang telah kehilangan moral oleh apa-kah alasan pula hendak memaksa kerana tindakan yang telah mereka Ketua Menteri mengadakan sidang Iakukan memechat Tuan Stephen Dewan Negri. Kalong Ningkan yang telah di-putus­ kan oleh Mahkamah tidak sah! Why? Perlembagaan telah ada chukup, Dan, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini di-laku­ Perlembagaan telah menetapkan mesti kan dalam beberapa hari sa-telah ke­ di-adakan sidang Dewan Negri dalam putusan Mahkamah, sa-sudah Yang tempoh tidak lewat daripada enam Teramat Mulia Tunku Abdul Rah­ bulan daripada Sidang Dewan Negri man, untok menjaga image negara kita, itu yang akhir. Jadi, bagi Dewan Negri menyatakan di-London bahawa itu-lah Sarawak, sama ada Stephen Kalong demokrasi yang berjalan di-Malaysia Ningkan suka atau tidak suka, hendak dan tindakan tidak betul yang di­ dan mesti di-adakan juga bila sampai ambil oleh Kerajaan pun boleh di­ ketika-nya, ia-itu hanya beberapa putuskan oleh Mahkamah dan itu sa­ bulan-lebeh kurang tiga bulan dari­ dikit sa-banyak menolong kita, sadikit pada sekarang ini, dia mesti mengada­ sa-banyak menolong kita dari segi kan dan apa yang telah beliau lakukan image, tetapi apa yang telah di-laku­ mengikut Perlembagaan beliau telah kan dengan mengemukakan Bill ini meminta dengan rasmi kapada Tuan menimbulkan teka-teki-menimbulkan Yang Terutama Governor bagi meng­ teka-teki kapada kita mengapa ini di­ adakan satu pilehan raya di-negeri kemukakan sa-mata2 kerana hendak Sarawak dengan serta-merta dalam meluluskan pemechatan terhadap Tuan tempoh yang sa-chepat2-nya dan ini Stephen Kalong Ningkan. telah di-lakukan mengikut Perlem­ bagaan dan hak beliau telah di­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sampai bagitu lakukan-nya. Apa-kah hak Tuan Yang sa-kali saya berdiri dan Yang Ber­ Terutama Governor itu pula? Ini yang hormat sahabat saya telah berchakap kita bertanya. Hak2 dia ia-lah melak- 777 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 778 sanakan tuntutan sesuai dengan ke­ Sekarang ini, Sarawak itu ada Per­ hendak2 Perlembagaan. lembagaan dan soal pilehan raya Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kembali ka­ hendak-lah di-jalankan mengikut Per­ pada ra'ayat itu-lah dia kedaulatan lembagaan. Di-sana ada satu system ra'ayat dan itu-lah dia tuntutan ra'ayat, pilehan raya tiga peringkat dan atas itu-lah dia perjuangan ra'ayat, itu-lah satu system itu-lah Ketua Menteri dia menyebabkan yang manusia dari yang sah, yang di-akui sah oleh zaman berzaman telah berkorban me­ Mahkamah Federal-menuntut supaya nuntut hak kedaulatan ra'ayat. ltu-lah ia-nya di-laksanakan di-dalam negeri sebab kita sa-bagai satu nation ber­ Sarawak. juang untok mendapatkan hak ke­ daulatan ra'ayat dalam tanah ayer kita Tuan Yang di-Pertua, pilehan raya tiga peringkat ini tentu-lah tidak kita ini daripada penjajahan British. Dan gemar, sebab kita mahu pilehan raya itu-lah pula hak yang telah di-per­ lansong dan saperti yang telah di­ juangkan oleh ra'ayat British sa-bagai terangkan oleh Kerajaan bahkan dengan manusia yang pertama memperjuang­ 2 berapi2 di-terangkan oleh sa-orang ang­ kan hak berparliman di-dalam dunia gota Perikatan dari Sarawak siang tadi ini yang telah sanggup mengkorban­ dalam Dewan Ra'ayat-kita tidak kan dengan mengkapak kepala Raja mahu orang yang bukan warga negara mereka sendiri bagi mewujudkan ke­ mengundi. Jadi, nampak-nya ada orang benaran hakikat kedaulatan ra'ayat yang bukan warga negara yang meng­ di-dalam negara Britain. undi dan ini satu keadaan yang sa­ Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, hak benar yang telah berlaku dalam Sara­ ra'ayat, suara ra'ayat sangat besar wak dalam Election Register-Buku dalam erti-kata demokrasi sa-hingga Daftar Mengundi-ada orang yang dalam perkataan Latin, atau Greek, bukan warga negara dan itu mungkin silap, mungkin sengaja, mungkin di­ sebab demokrasi pun ada juga berasal 2 daripada Latin dan daripada Greek, sengaja untok orang bagi beberapa ada yang mengatakan kita bukan orang tahun telah tinggal di-sana boleh meng­ yang tahu bahasa itu-Vox populi, undi, tetapi kita di-Malaya ini pernah Vox Dei kata-nya suara ra'ayat, suara sampai pilehan raya yang akhir ini ada Tuhan-itu demokrasi dan kami dari orang yang memakai Kad Pengenalan PAS tidak-lah mahu demokrasi bagitu Merah boleh mengundi-beberapa kali yang mahu ia-lah theo-democracy, kami protest perkara ini. bukan theo-cracy, tetapi theo-demo­ Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, lupakan cracy. Tetapi apa yang kita bicharakan hal itu. Soal-nya sekarang ini soal sekarang ini democracy. Itu sebab saya pilehan raya tiga peringkat di-Sarawak. kemukakan "Vox populi, V ox Dei" Kerajaan kalau mahu mengadakan atau suara ra'ayat, suara Tuhan. pHehan raya sesuai dengan kehendak Perlembagaan, Ketua Menteri-nya telah Tuan Yang di-Pertua, apa-kah yang meminta, Kerajaan-nya telah meminta, lebeh baik bagi kita yang mendekong kita kembali kapada ra'ayat, adakan demokrasi untok kembali kapada pilehan raya tiga peringkat sa-hingga ra'ayat di-dalam menentukan sa-suatu. dapat di-selesaikan dengan chepat, dan Sekarang ini apa yang di-tuntut oleh tentu-lah dapat di-lakukan, kerana kita Stephen Kalong Ningkan ada-lah hak mempunyai Kad Pengenalan, sa-tiap beliau mengikut Perlembagaan-kem­ oran~ yang tidak menjadi warga negara, bali kapada suara ra'ayat. Ya, Kera­ dia tidak di-bolehkan menjadi pengundi jaan mengikut keterangan yang jelas dan tidak di-benarkan mengundi pada daripada Tuan Pengerusi Surohanjaya hari mengundi, mungkin barangkali Pilehan Raya dalam sa-hari dua yang berlawanan dengan undang2 yang telah lalu menyebutkan paling chepat sa-kali ada, tetapi kalau undang2 ini boleh persediaan muktamad untok mengada­ kita kemukakan kaoada Dewan ini. kan satu pilehan raya sa-chara lang­ mengapa satu undang2 bagi membatal­ song di-Sarawak hanya dapat di-adakan kan hak orang bukan ra'ayat daripada di-dalam bulan Julai tahun 1967. ltu boleh mengundi dalam pilehan raya kalau ta' salah ingatan saya. Sarawak ta' boleh di-buat dalam masa 779 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 780 dua tiga hari, di-panggil lagi Dewan hendak-lah di-hormati. Jangan-lah Ra'ayat dan Dewan Negara bersidang kerana Pembangkang asal Pembang­ tiga hari lagi. Jadi, Tuan Yang di­ kang, semua sampai ka-bakul sampah, Pertua, pilehan raya dapat di-lakukan atau condemn dengan sa-suka hati dan demokrasi berjalan dengan baik sahaja, kerana mahu menang. Ada pun di-negeri kita ini. yang sa-benar-nya kita mahu menchari kebenaran dan kebaikan bagi kepen­ Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kita 2 tingan kita semua, bagi kepentingan berchakap tentang demokrasi. Kadang generation kita yang akan datang Kerajaan berchakap bagi melawan dalam negara kita. hujah, atau menekan hujah pehak Pem­ bangkang dengan mengatakan; kami Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, mari-lah tahu tuan2 menggunakan tektik, meng­ kita berfikir berhati2 di-dalam perkara gunakan dan membela demokrasi bagi ini. menghanchorkan demokrasi. Ini pemah Tuan Yang di-Pertua, tadi telah saya berlaku dalam Parlimen dan sekarang sebutkan dan memang telah di-sebut­ saya bertanya, siapa-kah yang meng­ kan oleh pehak Kerajaan dan penyo­ gunakan demokrasi itu untok meng­ kong2-nya tentang bahaya kominis. Ini hanchorkan demokrasi? Siapa-kah yang ta' perlu saya ulas, sebab saya kata, menggunakan demokrasi sekarang ini? saya lebeh anti-Communist, kerana Kita tahu pehak Kerajaan mempunyai: saya menentang kominis dari segi two third, bahkan lebeh 1uara-ya, spiritual, bukan daripada segi material­ demokrasi; Tuan2 mahu menggunakan ism, di-antara dua faham materialism­ demokrasi itu untok membunoh demo­ communist dan liberalism, kedua2-nya krasi sa-hingga orang2 Sarawak boleh sama sahaja. mengatakan di-zaman Colony, di­ zaman Colonial, di-zaman penjajahan Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, senjata British memerentah mereka, belum ada kominis ini-lah yang telah di-peralat­ sa-bagitu kuat-kuasa Governor, dari­ kan oleh keadaan negara kita semen­ pada Governor yang di-tunjok dan di­ jak tahun 1948 sa-hingga activity lantek oleh British sendiri. Jadi, saya politik, sa-hingga gerakan politik, bagi khuatir, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, bagi pehak kami dari Opposition ta' boleh kepentingan wujud-nya perdamaian berjalan kuat. Rapat Umum kami ta' dan perpaduan antara kita sa-sama boleh buat. Gulongan lain boleh buat kita, barangkali apa yang di-harapkan Rapat Umum besar2an-gulongan pe­ merentah. Jadi, ini-lah yang di-guna­ kebaikan dari Parti Perikatan, mung­ 2 kin ka-balekan, keburokan-nya akan kan berlarut -demokrasi apa-kah ini ! datang. Jadi, mungkin pula akan menjadi korban-lah Stephen Kalong Ningkan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya ber­ yang beliau terang2 bukan sa-orang chakap-ya, benar saya berdiri sa­ kominis, yang beliau terang2 sa-orang bagai sa-orang Pembangkang dan mem­ anggota Perikatan, tetapi kerana per­ bangkang Bill ini, tetapi hendak-lah tentangan ini, mungkin beliau kemu­ kita faham bersama-saya ada-lah sa­ dian akan di-chap kominis, kerana orang ra'ayat negara ini yang ber­ tiap2 yang menentang dasar Kerajaan tanggong jawab terhadap negara ini, itu semua-nya kominis. Ini mungkin, bukan-lah kerana Pembangkang ingin sebab PAS juga pernah di-katakan membangkang dan membangkang me­ kominis. A'u zu billah. Pernah di-kata­ lul u, tetapi berfikir bagi kepentingan kan PAS ini kominis, apa-tah lagi negara kita ini di-dalam istilah demok­ Stephen Kalong Ningkan. Kami dari rasi hendak-nya suara ra'ayat itu, saya pejuang2 Islam pun di-tudoh kominis. juga mewakili ra'ayat, walau pun Lidah orang2 Perikatan memang telah anggota Senate, walau pun indirect, kita kenal boleh mengatakan. Jadi, di-pileh daripada State Assembly, apa-kah akan di-korbankan sa-orang tetapi saya juga mewakili ra'ayat-ada sa-mata2 dengan kerana kepentingan ra'ayat di-belakang saya, suara ra'ayat politik satu gulongan. Kalau korban itu hendak-lah di-hormati, dan fikiran kerana kepentingan kebenaran-itu ra'ayat itu, suara ra'ayat itu, hendak­ memang hak, tetapi bukan kerana ke­ lah di-dengar, dan fikiran ra'ayat itu pentingan gulongan demi gulongan. 781 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 782 Negara kepunyaan bersama, bukan has arisen because of the decision made kepunyaan gulongan demi gulongan. in the Courts in Kuching. The decision Kembali-lah kapada ra'ayat dan mari­ was a legal decision, but with a poli­ lah kita berlaku adil supaya kita dapat tical rider saying that the Council keadilan pula daripada yang maha Negri must be dissolved or advising besar dan maha agong yang menguasai the Council Negri to be dissolved and seluroh alam ini, ia-itu Tuhan. to hold an election. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya dengan tegas-nya menyatakan dengan amat Now, it is very 'Wll for a legal dukachita tidak dapat menyokong Bill adviser or a judge to tell us to have an election. But what are the processes ini, oleh kerana kep~ntingan negara kita dan sangat dukachita yang pehak of an election? Who are our voters? Kerajaan dengan terburu2 telah menge­ Who have the right to elect? It must mukakan Bill ini yang pada saya, naturally be those who are citizens of barangkali akan menchuringkan lagi the country. How can you, overnight, arang di-muka kita dan merosakkan ask anybody to vote for a Government image kita di-luar negeri. Sekian terima in a country of which he is not a kaseh. citizen? It is just impossible. The rider is imposs:ble of fulfilment and that is Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: Mr Pre­ why we have trouble today. If there sident, Sir, the whole day I sat at the is no political rider attached to a legal Dewan Ra'ayat hearing with rapt judgment, we may not have such, let attention the Speeches by the Alliance us say, enlightening speeches in the Members and speeches by the Opposi­ Lower House and in, the Upper House tion Members-speeches embellished on democracy. We have been told that with democratic principles, intelligence we must practice democracy, demo­ and warnings of disaster to come, if the cracy and democracy. What is it? What advice of the Opposition was not do you want to practise? Is it not right followed. This is not the first time that for us to see that the Chief Minister, the Opposition Members have become who is appointed by legal judgment prophets of doom-they had been pro­ but not according to political practice, phets of doom many times in the is restrained from misusing his power? Dewan Ra'ayat, but nothing happened We have got every right to do so after their prophecy. because, if he does it, there will be a Just, now, I heard the learned legal danger to democracy in Kuching. That Member from Kelantan saying that is why we have stepped in to prevent a grave emergency does not exist. a grave emergency arising, and I think According to the definitions in the it is right that our Government should dictionary that I have here, the word step in and take some steps to assure "grave" is defined as "serious, 'weighty', that this country is saved for demo­ 'solemn', 'momentous'." He stated that cracy. However, I am only sorry that when he was in the Courts he saw we were not gracious enough in the nothing there and there was all calm­ Lower House to allow one or two ness, that there was a sort of no insur­ speakers of the Opposition a few rection and no rioting. But may I ask moments to voice their opinions. It him, "Must grave situation be an overt would have been very gracious of us act or open or seen?" It need not be to have given them five minutes to that in a situation of grave emergency, voice their opinions in the Lower there need be an overt act. It does not House, so that they could be satisfied say "grave" must be "overt". It is that they were expressing the views of only "momentous", "serious", and the political party or of the views of therefore we have a right to call it their supporters. But here, I think, the a "grave emergency" because of the Government is quite correct that a infiltration. Why should we not say it? grave emergency does exist-from all I have read, and it is right that we Now, we come to one very serious should step in to rectify the mistake point that has arisen from what I have in the Constitution-not rectify, in fact, heard in the Dewan Ra'ayat. This point but to fill in the gap-so that the 783 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 784 Governor has got the right to see that sama besar salah-nya dengan apa yang the Chief Minister does his work pro­ berlaku di-negeri Sarawak. perly and also the Speaker. I think Saya berkata bagitu kerana saya that gap should be filled as was seen tahu di-Kelantan, Kerajaan PAS di­ in the case of the Constitution of Kelantan, sedang menganiayakan India, and I hope that the Opposition ra'ayat Kelantan. Pada masa ini, Tuan would put up better arguments for the Yang di-Pertua, tidak kurang daripada sake of peace and prosperity of the 20,000 orang tidak ada pekerjaan di­ people of Sarawak and of the whole Kelantan, tidak kurang daripada of Malaysia. Thank you. 50,000 orang yang laparkan tanah Nik Hassan bin Haji Nik Y ahya: menunggu mahukan tanah di-Kelantan, Dato' Yang di-Pertua, saya menyokong dan pegawai2 Kerajaan, sa-hingga Ahli Bill ini dan saya suka hendak ber­ Dewan Undangan Negeri, tidak dapat chakap atas beberapa perkara sa­ menerima elaun yang patut mereka berapa rengkas kerana sudah jauh terima. malam. Pada mula-nya saya tidak Pada bulan ini, Tuan Yang di­ sangka Ahli2 Pembangkang daripada Pertua, enam haribulan baharu Ahli PAS bagitu sa-kali membangkang Bill Dewan Negeri, yang mewakili Per­ ini sa-hingga di-Dewan Ra'ayat mereka ikatan, menerima chek bayaran elaun, itu keluar dan di-sini mereka memberi tetapi bagi Ahli2 yang mewakili Parti berbagai perkataan yang menunjokkan PAS chek itu di-terima pada enam mereka itu benar2 membangkang Bill haribulan, tetapi tidak di-benarkan ini. Mereka ini membangkang sa­ memasokkan ka-bank pada enam hari­ hingga di-Dewan Ra'ayat tadi saya bulan kerana wang tidak ada di-bank. tengok sendiri dengan mata kepala Sampai bagitu sa-kali keadaan yang saya, mereka rela dudok di-bawah berlaku da:lam negeri Kelantan. perentah OAP dan juga PPP. Saya Ra'ayat tidak dapat layanan, ke­ tengok sendiri Ahli DAP Devan Nair, hidupan ra'ayat telah menjadi bagitu keluar Dewan itu bersekali dengan rumit sa-bagaimana apa yang ada Seenivasagam, panggilkan Ahli PAS dalam Perlembagaan ini. Itu-lah saya itu keluar sama. Sa-tengah keluar, sa­ katakan, kita ini lembut, chukup baik, tengah tidak keluar, kemudian masok dengan PAS ini pun kita buat baik. balek, jadi sa-olah2 mereka ini rela merosakkan maruah mereka sa-bagai Saya tahu mereka ini datang me­ Parti Islam yang di-katakan itu. nyembah Yang Amat Berhormat Tun Haji Abdul Razak meminta pinjaman Wan Mustapha bin Haji Wan Ali: wang lagi, hendak membayar gaji pun Mr President...... tidak dapat, tetapi di-sini mereka hentam kita, mereka keluar daripada Nik Hassan bin Haji Nik Yahya: Dewan menunjokkan bermuka2 kapada Saya tidak beri jalan, saya hendak ra'ayat kita, mereka keluar daripada berchakap, masa sudah lewat. Dewan menunjokkan bermuka2 ka­ Mereka ini rela merosakkan maruah pada ra'ayat konon mereka ini mem­ mereka sa-bagai Parti Is:am sa-Tanah perjuangkan demokrasi. Bukan mem­ Melayu dudok di-bawah arahan Parti perjuangkan demokrasi, mereka mc­ yang lain. Apabila saya halusi di-atas nutupkan keburokan yan'g ada di­ sebab2 mereka ini membangkang bagitu negeri sana takut yang Kerajaan ini • kuat, nyata sa-kali-lah apa yang di­ boleh mengambil tindakan kerana katakan tidak benar. Sa-orang dari­ kehidupan ra'ayat Kelantan telah men· pada Ahli Pembangkang berkata, jadi bagitu menderita sa-hingga mesti, mereka ini membangkang atas asas sudah menjadi mesti, bagi Kerajaan demokrasi, atas asas hendak memeli­ Pusat ini mengambil tindakan yang harakan Perlembagaan dan sa-bagai­ wajar bagi menyelamatkan kehidupan nya. Ini semua-nya karut belaka. Yang ra'ayat di-sana. saya tahu mereka membangkang ini, Kalau pegawai2 Kerajaan tidak dapat Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kerana mereka menerima gaji, kalau Ahli2 Dewan takut yang mereka ada bersalah yang Negeri tidak dapat menerima elaun, 785 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 786 kalau orang kampong berpuloh ribu chepat kita luluskan. Pembangkang tidak dapat memileki tanah, kalau sudah dua orang berchakap dan dia beribu anak muda kita tidak dapat sudah keluar, saya rasa tidak hendak pekerjaan, apa akan jadi kapada berchakap dan dia sudah keluar, saya Kelantan, Tuan Yang di-Pertua? Yang rasa tidak hendak berchakap kerana mereka ini bangkang, mereka takut masa sudah tengah malam, saya rasa Kerajaan Pusat tahu semua-nya ini chukup-lah. Sekian sahaja, terima dan akan bertindak untok menyelarnat­ kaseh. kan ra'ayat di-Kelantan di-bawah The Minister of Home Affairs and Fasal 150 itu juga yang mana di-kata­ Minister of Justice (Tun Dr Ismail): kan bagi menjaga kehidupan ra'ayat Mr President, Sir, the two Honourable Kerajaan berhak mengambil tindakan. Senators, who form the Opposition in Sudah memang apabila Bill ini the Senate have based their opposition datang ka-Parlimen ini, saya rasa on the principles of democracy. How­ Sarawak dan Kelantan patut menjadi ever, we cannot overlook the fact that dua buah negeri, patut Kerajaan ber­ the Honourable Senator Wan Mustapha tindak memperbaiki. Kita bertindak in his opening remark said that he mengadakan Undang2 ini kerana would not vote when the time comes, hendak membetulkan demokrasi di­ that he would not register the vote of Sarawak. Pehak Pembangkang, Wan his party. Now, Sir, this comes from Mustapha, memusingkan Undang2 itu two Honourable Senators, who are macham dia itu Legal Adviser. Dato' trying to preach democracy to us, and kata Legal Adviser, bukan Legal yet they both gladly said in this House Adviser, dia itu loyar. Tadi dia pun that they would not even practice the berkata, dia pergi ka-Sarawak sa­ very fundamental parliamentary demo­ bagai loyar bukan sa-bagai ahli politik, cracy. It is the duty of the Opposition kerana hendak menchari wang sa-bagai to oppose the Government. It is the loyar-itu dial duty of the Opposition to be in the House and register their votes and Sekarang Kerajaan Kelantan ber­ oppose. It is not enough for Honour­ hutang dengan local bank $3 juta able Members of the Opposition just to bunga pun tidak dapat bayar, jangan­ abuse this Chamber of ours, to give kan hendak membayar gaji, bunga pun lectures, and not perform their duties tidak dapat bayar. Apa akan terjadi by not registering their votes. kapada negeri Kelantan, saya pun tidak tahu! Beratus ribu sa-bulan Ke­ Sir, let us take the argument put rajaan kena membayar bunga kapada forward by the Honourable Senator bank, tidak dapat bayar. Apa akan Wan Mustapha. He based his argument terjadi kapada ra'ayat Kelantan? Jadi that this political crisis in Sarawak ini-lah saya katakan, kita sudah ter­ could be easily solved if the Governor lampau baik, tangan yang kita hulor­ would grant the Chief Minister de jure kan mereka gigit, tetapi Tun kita what he asked-the dissolution of dengan Tunku chukup demokrasi, Council Negri. He quote at great chukup lembut, tetapi mereka memaki length all the authorities. Now, what lagi, mereka keluar daripada Dewan, do those quotations amount to? Firstly, mereka mengikut Parti2 Pembangkang he said that the Chief Minister or the Prime Minister and that is the Head SUPP dan lain2, Parti Buroh dan sa­ bagai-nya. Mereka tidak mengenang­ of a Government, has the right to ask kan budi yang mereka sekarang me­ the Sovereign or the Head of a State nyembah. at least one dissolution, and then he quoted the conditions which must be Jadi ini-lah, Dato' Yang di-Pertua, fulfilled before the Sovereign or the saya narnpak sudah sampai-lah masa­ Governor would allow the dissolution. nya kita membetulkan, kita mesti In the first place, he quoted that where berani membetulkan untok menye­ a Prime Minister, or a Chief Minister, larnatkan demokrasi. Bill ini kita mesti commands the majority in the House luluskan dengan sa-berapa segara-nya, and asks the Sovereign or the kita tunggu di-sini. Sekarang sa-berapa Governor for a dissolution, then, he 787 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 788 said, that the Sovereign, or the threat yang boleh menyebabkan di­ Goverqor, according to parliamentary ishtiharkan keadaan dharurat. Kata­ practice, must accede to the dissolution nya Kertas Puteh yang di-keluarkan of Parliament. That is true, because oleh Kerajaan ini ia-lah sa-mata2 it is the prerogative of the Government hendak memperkuatkan alasan kita in power, who controls the majority, to hendak menjatohkan Dato' Kalong decide when elections should be held. Ningkan, dan dia kata ia-itu Kertas Then, he said that, where a Govern­ Puteh itu bertarikh 17 September, ia­ ment is a minority government, before lah bukti-nya menunjokkan yang Kertas the Sovereign or the Governor can Puteh ini di-keluarkan sa-mata2 dengan · agree to dissolution, the Sovereign or tujuan hendak menjatohkan Dato' the Governor must satisfy himself Kalong Ningkan. Jadi berma'ana-lah that there is no alternative government. apa yang di-tulis dalam Kertas Puteh That is quite correct. Thirdly, he says ini semua-nya bohong. that where there is a deadlock, there is no majority in the House either by Tuan Amaluddin bin Daros: Pen­ the Chief Minister or the Opposition jelasan, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Saya leaders, then the Sovereign or the tidak mengatakan tidak ada communist Governor must grant a dissolution. threat atau keadaan kekachauan kominis di-Sarawak, bahkan ada di­ Now, let us relate the three condi­ Sarawak dan ada di-seluroh negara tions to the prevailing conditions in kita semenjak tahun 1948 bagi Malaya Sarawak now. Dato' Stephen Kalong ini sendiri. Tetapi yang saya katakan Ningkan is the Chief Minister de jure. tidak ada keadaan grave emergency If he goes to the Council Negeri, and yang membolehkan di-ishtiharkan if what is registered outside the Council keadaan emergency yang di-panggil Negri is repeated in the Council Negri, sidang ini ia-lah kerana di-ishtiharkan it is obvious that Dato' Stephen Kalong emergency, keadaan saperti yang di­ Ningkan will not get majority support beritakan di-surat khabar tidak ada and it is quite obvious that another kekachauan di-Kuching, tidak ada ke­ leader of the Alliance in the Council matian dan sa-bagai-nya. Soal kominis Negri will command not only a itu memang ada tahun 1948 lagi. majority but a substantial majority to Tun Dr Ismail: Baik-lab, Tuan form the Government. According to President, saya menguchapkan terima parliamentary practice, the Governor kaseh kapada Ahli Yang Berhonnat has the right not to grant Dato' Stephen atas kenyataan-nya itu. Katakan dia Kalong Ningkan a disso:ution of tidak menafikan yang ada communist Council Negri, but the Governor not threat ini di-Sarawak, tetapi kata dia only can base his judgement on the oleh sebab Kertas Puteh ini di-chetak­ parliamentary practice, but it is also kan dan bertarikh pada l 7hb September, enshrined in the Sarawak Constitution ini menunjokkan satu bukti yang that the dissolution of Council Negri Kertas Puteh ini di-keluarkan sa-mata2 is at the discretion of the Governor. It kerana kita hendak membuat alasan is quite right that the Chief Minister menjatohkan Dato' Kalong Ningkan. can ask but also it is quite right for the Governor to use his discretion Yang Pertama, Tuan President, siapa whether to agree to the dissolution or yang telah membacha Kertas Puteh ini not. That is all that was contained in tentu-lah akan mengambil kesimpulan Honourable Wan Mustapha's two-hour ia-itu benda ini tidak boleh di-karang long speech. I summarised it within dengan satu hari sahaja. Sunggoh pun ten minutes. kandongan ini memakan tidak kurang daripada sembilan muka tetapi kando­ Sekarang saya hendak menjawab ngan-nya terlampau-lah penoh dan ini­ sadikit tegoran yang di-datangkan oleh lah basil daripada siasat yang di­ Yang Berhormat Senator Amaluddin perbuat oleh Chawangan Penyelidekan Darus. Tudohan yang saya mengambil di-dalam Polis. Dan atas alasan dia ia­ berat ia-itu dia mengatakan, ia-itu di­ itu communist threat, sunggoh pun ada Sarawak sana tidak ada communist di-Sarawak, tetapi tidak-lah bagitu

------789 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 790 berat yang boleh membolehkan Kera­ kan keadaan dharurat baharu telah jaan mengishtiharkan keadaan dharurat. ada pengishtiharan dharurat yang Ma'ana-nya dengan alasan itu ber­ dahulu. Tetapi kita tidak hendak meng­ ma'ana-lah kita ini mesti menunggu gunakan pengishtiharan yang dahulu sa-hinggakan keadaan dharurat itu itu, oleh sebab kita tidak hendak di­ berlaku, bahaya kominis. itu berlaku tudoh oleh orang yang kita menyalah baharu-lah kita boleh mengishtiharkan gunakan pengishtiharan dharurat yang keadaan dharurat di-Sarawak. lalu itu. Itu-lah sebab-nya kita meminta supaya di-ishtiharkan dharurat yang Di-sini saya suka-lah menarek per­ baharu ini supaya mengatasi political hatian Yang Berhormat itu apa yang crisis yang ada di-Sarawak yang akan telah berlaku di-negeri yang sekarang menambahkan lagi bahaya kominis ini ini di-katakan Malaysia Barat, dahulu dalam negeri Sarawak. Jadi dalam Malaya. Saya ingat lagi ia-itu bila masa bahasa Inggeris "None is so blind as saya menjadi Ahli Yang Berhormat who would not see and none is so deaf Dewan Negeri Johor, saya mendengar as who would not hear". satu uchapan Wakil daripada Rubber Plantation dalam Johor mengatakan Jadi jikalau Ahli Yang Berhormat pada masa itu yang bahaya kominis itu dari chara academic, hendak menen­ telah ada nampak dan meminta Kera­ tang kominis tidak-lah guna, dan jaan Federal pada masa itu mengishti­ bagaimana yang di-katakan yang kita harkan dharurat. Rayuan yang di-buat ini hendak membunoh demokrasi oleh wakil daripada peladang orang dengan membuat Undang2 yang kita puteh itu tidak di-hiraukan oleh Kera­ minta Rumah Yang Berhormat ini jaan Federal. kerana dengan mengikut meluluskan, itu ia-lah supaya hendak alasan Ahli Yang Berhormat itu mesti mengukohkan demokrasi dalam negeri di-tunggu yang nampak bahaya kominis kita ini. Sunggoh pun ada keadaan itu baharu-lah di-ishtiharkan dharurat. dharurat dalam negeri kita, kita dengan sa-boleh2-nya tidak hendak mengenepi­ Kita telah ketahui apa telah berlaku kan demokrasi dalam negeri kita ini. dalam negeri ini, bila dharurat di­ Jikalau kita bendak perbuat memeren­ ishtiharkan sa-lepas pengganas2 men­ tah Sarawak dengan decree-itu pun jalankan jahanam kapada negeri ini. boleh. Kerana di-bolehkan kita di­ Dua belas tahun kita menanggong, oleh bawah Article 150 dalam Federal sebab Kerajaan pada masa itu tidak Constitution ini. Tetapi kita memikir­ bersedia hendak mengishtiharkan kan jikalau kita boleh mengatasi ke­ dharurat sa-belum kominis bergerak. sulitan political crisis ini dengan tidak Jadi ini-lah tujuan Kerajaan ia-itu mengenepikan dasar demokrasi itu-lah jikalau kita hendak mengatasi bahaya yang sa-baik2-nya bagi negeri kita yang kominis ini mesti-lah kita ambil, dalam mengutamakan demokrasi. bahasa Inggeris "preventive action". Jikalau benda itu sudah berlaku tidak Jadi jauh daripada niat kita hendak guna lagi di-ishtiharkan dharurat. meluchutkan demokrasi bahkan sung­ Jikalau kita nampak api dalam rumput2 goh pun bahaya daripada kominis ada, di-keliling rumah kita, pada masa itu­ kita yakin kapada demokrasi kerana lah kita mesti padamkan api itu, dengan demokrasi-lah kita boleh me­ jangan-lah kita tunggu sampai api itu ngalahkan kominis dalam negeri kita. telah membakar rumah baharu masa Terima kaseh (Tepok). itu-lah hendak mengambil fire brigade, tidak guna lagi. Question put. Jadi ini-lah saya hendak beri ke­ House divided : terangan yang terang sakali ia-itu Ayes-49; Noes-2; Abstention-Nil bahaya kominis di-Sarawak ini mung­ kin lagi berat daripada dahulu bila AYES masa kita mengishtiharkan dharurat. Tuan A. Arunasalam Ahli Yang Berhormat Senator Tuan Abdul Rahman bin Ahmad Amaluddin Darns tentu ketahui ia-itu Tuan ~bdul Samad bin Osman sa-belum pun kita hendak mengishtihar- Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Haji Abdullah 791 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 792

Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdul Manap Bill considered in Committee. Puan Aishah binti Haji Abdul Ghani Puan Bibi Aisha binti Hamid Don Clauses I to 5 inclusive ord~red to Dato' Joseph Augustine Angian Andulag sland part of the Bill. Tuan Awang Daud Matusin Preamble ordered to stand part of Datu Tuanku Bujang the Bill. Tuan Chan Keong Hon Tuan Chan Kwong-Hon Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr Chairman, Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok Sir, I beg to move that the Bill be now Dato' J. E. S. Crawford reported back to the House. Tuan D. S. Dorairaj Dato' Y. T. Lee: I beg to second Dato' Foo See Moi the motion. Tuan Gan Teck Yeow Tuan Goh Chek Kin Question put, and agreed to. Tuan Hoh Chee Cheong House resumes. Tuan Hong Kim Sui Tuan C. D. Ismail (Mr President in the Chair) Tuan Andrew Jika Landau Tuan Koh Kim Leng Third Reading Dato' Lee Foong Yee Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, Dato' Y. T. Lee Sir, I beg to report that the Bill has Tuan Lim Hee Hong been considered in Committee and Tuan Lim Joo Kong agreed to without amendment. I Tuan Mohamed Adib accordingly move that it be read the Datu Pengiran Mohamed Digadong Galpam third time and passed. Tan Sri Haji Mohamed Noah Dato' Y. T. Lee: Sir, I beg to Tuan Haji Muhamad Saaid second the motion. Dato' Athi Nahappan Tuan S. P. S. Nathan Question put. Nik Hassan bin Haji Nik Yahya House divided: Ayes-49; Noes-2; Tok Pangku Pandak Hamid Tuan Saidon bin Kechut Abstention-Nil. Dato' Sheikh Abu Bakar Tan Sri G. Shelley AYES Tuan Syed Ahmad Tuan A. Arunasalam Tuan Syed Darus Tuan Abdul Rahman bin Ahmad Tuan William Tan Tuan Abdul Samad bin Osman Tan Sri T. H. Tan Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Haji Abdullah Dato' E. E. C. Thuraisingham Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdul Manap Tuan S. 0. K. Ubaidulla Puan Aishah binti Haji Abdul Ghani Dato' Wan Ibrahim Puan Bibi Aisha binti Hamid Don Wan Sulaiman Dato' Joseph Augustine Angian Andulag Tuan Yahya bin Ahmad Tuan Awang Daud Matusin Tuan Yahya bin Haji Ahmad Datu Tuanku Bujang Tuan Yeoh Kian Teik. Tuan Chan Keong Hon Tuan Chan Kwong-Hon Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok NOES Dato' J. E. S. Crawford Tuan Amaluddin bin Darus Tuan D. S. Dorairaj Wan Mustapha bin Haji Ali. Dato' Foo See Moi Tuan Gan Teck Y eow ABSTENTIONS-Nil Tuan Goh Chek Kin Tuan Hoh Chee Cheong Bill accordingly read a second time Tuan Hong Kim Sui and committed to a Committee of the Tuan C. D. Ismail whole House. Tuan Andrew Jika Landau Tuan Koh Kim Leng House immediately resolved itself Dato' Lee Foong Yee into a Committee of the whole House. Dato' Y. T. Lee 793 19 SEPTEMBER 1966 794 Dato' E. E. C. Thuraisingham Tuan Lim Hee Hong Tuan S. 0. K. Ubaidulla Tuan Lim Joo Kong Dato' Wan Ibrahim Tuan Mohamed Adib Wan Sulaiman Datu Pengiran Mohamed Digadong Tuan Yahya bin Ahmad Galpam Tuan Yahya bin Haji Ahmad Tan Sri Haji Mohamed Noah Tuan Yeoh Kian Teik. Tuan Haji Muhamad Saaid NOES Dato' Athi Nahappan Tuan S. P. S. Nathan Tuan Amaluddin bin Darus Nik Hassan bin Haji Nik Yahya Wan Mustapha bin Haji Ali. Tok Pangku Pandak Hamid ABSTENTIONS-Nil Tuan Saidon bin Kechut Dato' Sheikh Abu Bakar Bill accordingly read the third time Tan Sri G. Shelley and passed. Tuan Syed Ahmad Mr President: The House is Tuan Syed Daros adjourned sine die. Tuan William Tan Tan Sri T. H. Tan Adjourned at 12 .50 a.m.

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